#đâsuno-school
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have a link by any chance?
Guys it's just unacceotable 2/3 of all covers by v5 is buggy af.
The bug is like when vhs was doing this disturbing repeating thing, many rap guys and DJ's like this shii.
Sound quality is good, melody and voices as well, but this thing crushing my whole expirience.
It eats my credits like candies and I don't get needed result only because of this kind laggs.
I begging you fix it pls!
I'm gonna throw money in you as some junkie, I'm in love with v5, it makes me forget about everything, I'm literaly like a kid playing with lego, the real world is not exist anymore for me.
Please fix it or drop missile on my head, I don't wanna comeback to reality đ pls help!
Not off the top of my head, but Im sure itd be easy to search for among videos that have come out since v5 launched this week.
So did anyone solve the intro without wailing or is it still a must to generate an instrumental first?
hello goodevenig
hi friends have a issue with recording and uplaoding in suno pro
not able to upload and recording music is limted to 15 seconds
Thats not common. So log out , close and restart browser and try again? See if thats enough to reset it.
If I wanna straight cover a song in V5 without changing much except the Language of the song what are the best settings now? Sliders how? And are any style infos even necessary if there is the original Cover Audio I wanna cover or should I still add the Style prompts or keep it empty?
Error generating replacement
Unknown error anyone getting this while replacing
how can i solve that
Hey everyone,
how can I best add sound effects like a phone ringing? I've tried a bunch of different ways, and it worked once, but then the lyrics didn't sound right, and I haven't been able to get it to work since.
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how do you make the singer sigh?
ha ha haa does a laugh
but i cant get a sigh.... he just says it lol
I ordered an army of penguins, ten thousand strong, sleek and precise!
My plan was to rule the cold heavens, with wings made of malice and ice!
I stood on my tower of sorrow, I launched them with villainous glee!
I screamed to the heavens, "FLY, MY ASSASSINS! BRING THIS WRETCHED WORLD TO ME!"
[Sudden stop]
thud, thud, splat, thud, splat,
*sigh*
[Deep male baritone - muttering in frustration]
...Rats. Turns out they're flightless. Now I have a letter from the R S P C A.
And a weekly course on "Avian Wellbeing." It's on Tuesdays.
it refuses to sigh, i understand the thud and splat not being possible but a sigh? thats pretty common? tried sigh, *sigh*, [sigh] what am i doing wrong?
From my experience, v5 is really bad at this
Best results seem to be, blank style instruction, 0% style influence, audio influence 90 or higher, weirdness somewhere below 10
But it still doesn't work as well as earlier models did, I find it does weird things to the beginning of the song especially
It refuses to sigh because it doesnt know what a sigh is. Suno is NOT trained on sound effects, and what sound effects you can achieve are found in the MUSIC it is trained on. Sound effects are best handled in a DAW currently.
it used to a long time ago. I have heard songs (real ones) with sighs in them. but i dont know what suno's data set is.
Looked up DAW, my music is not on that level, I make songs to make me and friends laugh or just for fun to entertain.
The number of songs released throughout modern history that include a "sigh" are microscopic in number. And since Suno focuses on what is in training Music, and not FX, it's pretty much almost impossible to prompt for it. You may get lucky at some point and find a specific genre subtype that had a sigh in it, but thats like finding a grain of sand in an ocean full of them.
Was hoping the new midi feature would be more on the nose and accurate..but itâs similar accuracy to converting audio to midi in Ableton.. which can be a bit sloppy
must admit as suno models advance, the audio quality gets better, the voice gets clearer.... but its lossing the quirks that allow for comedy songs. I am even having trouble keeping accents solid in v5 (irish accent was my main test)
its depressing.... but may be the same issue... singers with a specific accent are going to be rarer than others.... almost like they are overtraining with v5 now
Irish accents have always been somewhat weak with Suno (I do speak Ulster Gaelic), so thats not really saying much. I dont see a big difference for v5 currently.
This is not entirely accurate, based on last open weight Suno publication "Bark"
I suspect v5 still has some prompt magic to open up paralinguistic noises
Used to be "fx" in the prompt itself would open the door to that domain (untested in v5)
Also the word "paralinguistic" may be in the dataset, although I never tested that domain either on any model
Ah, you do know Bark was depricated like over 2 years ago..
Suno devs have said that Suno does not get trained on FX.
hmmm i tried [soundfx: sigh] but not [fx sigh] burned too many credits trying it, ended up just dropping the sigh, its annoying but is what it is.
I think it has to be in the style/genre prompt not the lyrics
Not to mention Bark targeting text to speach as its goal
the worst one is old womans voice, its non existant, no osngs sung by old crones are possible alas.... again likely due to the training data.... but i wish they would diversafy the the training data.... I cant be the only one that uses suno this way lol
It is less likely with time they keep some of that dataset, but if those audio tokens help their internal loss/eval during training, they will keep every token they can in the dataset
"Geriatric" style/genre LOL
You likely arent, but Suno's goal is to compete with good popular current music, for the masses.
I found the only way to keep a voice the same, was to do it like this:
[female singer - thick Irish accent, voice filled with sorrow and frustration]
so i suspect style prompts in the lyrics should work....emphasis on should lol
In other words, they are not likely to cater to a snow flake group.
?
I was going to say that I am not the sort to be easierly offended, then realised that snowflake may mean something else in other countries lol
snowflake group.. meaning a group that is very tiny and unique
ah, minority group. yeah i get that. dont have to like it...but i get it lol
Businesses dont generally put much effort into supporting them as they are a cost and not a profit.
yeah, my annual sub is likely a drop in the bucket. just sad that the models are getting too good to not use in terms of quality...but worse in terms of content range.
still, spilt milk etc.... just got to learn how to bend v5 to do my bidding as best i can lol
I have found that Suno is really good at fusion of genre, as long as they are sympathetic or complimentary, otherwise it tends to butcher the track in its attempt.
indeed, i have a song where part of the instructions are `
A fusion of a haunted music box waltz and a deceptively cheerful Victorian carnival melody and an eerie children's lullaby with an extremely high fidelity recording
worked well... I do like playing with different style of lyrics attached to different tune styles... A bubly AI singing that the satation is going to explode, they are all doomed, to bubble pop for example creates an interesting contrast.
I like very deep aggressive female, sometimes even with strong persona influence it doesn't work so good but usually is nice with
Hm notice non of my public songs use that...
I wonder how it determined what was music. If Suno was trained on Spike Jones, Nature Sounds or any of the Sound Effects recordings of Spotify, then that covers many sounds already. đ€
But once it even thinks its knows what Im asking, it may calculate the odds that it actually should be there. If I want a cuica in a flamenco song is 58% likely, but a paper-rip sound in a novelty Halloween song maybe only be. .002 % chance, so it doesnt produce it once unless I do 300 generations.
Iâm really struggling with V5.
In simple mode, for example, if I ask for deep house music, whatever it makes sounds almost the same â like Midnight Echoes, then Echoes Mirage, and it keeps repeating that pattern.
And if I want to use the custom section, the Auto Lyrics option is gone, so I have to take an extra step and write the lyrics myself.
My workaround was using the iOS app, where in simple mode I donât face the same issue, but the problem there is that most of the songs end up being under 2 minutes.
So the only fast option is using version 4.5+ on the phone app
using persona ?
I don't need "upgrade", I'm on the maximum (premium) one. And I don't see something like "early renew" or "pay upfront" for renew. For example Bitwig allow to buy "year subscription" not just for a year, buy as many years you want.
**But the main question **is if I have let say 20,000 tracks created and I cancel my subscription and not renew (on the current account) - will I lost all my songs, or it will be forever kept on my "free" (not renewed) account?
Is there a trick to properly adding sections in-between generated sections in a song without it sounding completely out of place? (in the plain song editor not studio)
Is there a way to change the picture when I make a playlist? The Ai generator thing doesn't seem to be working and I just want to put an actual image on the playlist
No
I hope someone can help. Lately soono has been providing a very annoying female voice to almost every single song I'm trying to create. Ironically the music is spot on I could not be happier! But every single track is ruined by this awful female voice that is going up and down the scale with every single word no matter what prompt I put in. I can get it to veer away from that if I include something like indie influenced or blues influenced but then it completely changes the music I'm starting to feel more and more that it would be so helpful if we could get Suno to treat the vocals and the music like two totally separate entities.
I am at Wit's end. I'm generating over a hundred versions of these songs and I love the music but I just cannot get rid of that annoying voice. Does anyone have any insight for me here
It's not an easy exercise.
Your best bet is to define that there are a male and female singer in the style prompt and then, much as you have been, prompt in the lyrics as to who is supposed to sing what. I'd suggest using [male vocalist] or [female singer] rather than 'her part' but it will still get it wrong on a regular basis - all you can do is tilt the odds in your favour, and once it gets a portion of the song correct - extend before the next inevitable mistake and try again until you slowly build up the song as you want it.
Expect it to be a credit-eating exercise, though.
have you kept the same tab open for a while? i had a similar issue once, i found closing suno and clearing my cache and then retrying fixed it for using the same voice for everything i was trying.
or if you are doing a cover of the song, with the hopes of having it give you a different voice, split the stems and reupload the instrumental if that is what you were wanting to keep the same, and then work off cover from the upload.
From what I hear from others, cancel your sub will NOT delete your songs - so you can stay on Free account with those songs.
ONLY when you delete your account then you'd lose everything.
Wow v5 is bad or I need to change my prompting completely from 4.5+
Kind of both?
V5 is very much an unfinished product which clearly wasn't tested properly before release
But also, every model responds differently to the same prompt so yes, if you want to get the most out of v5 (and, it can give amazing results sometimes), you do need to effectively learn how to prompt all over again because a lot of old tricks no longer work, or work differently now
There needs to be an official prompt guide depending on how it was trained on. They are the only one having the training data.
finally compelled to use the downvote button after using Suno since v3. some v5 generations in my genre's of choice do some very strange generations... but hey, the ones that work are insane (for my preferred genres) so .... i'm happy
Why is it sometimes my song link shows up as just a link and sometimes it shows up as playable within Discord?
I think it might depend on what channel you put it in?
Links are always playable in Showcase and never in general chat so it has to be the channel settings, rather than anything to do with the song or the link itself
Yeah I did it in showcase, but it didn't show up as a playable window. It was just a link box
Hmm.
This one?
#đŁâsuno-showcase message
Yeah that's weird, not sure why in that case because as far as I know it should work properly in there
Yep. If we're not having fun, then we're doing it wrong.
If 4.5+ is your strong suit, do it in 4.5+, cover in 5.0, then extend in 5.0 to complete the song. Thats another option.
Remember 5.0 is beta and tweaked frequently. So something that works today may be different tomorrow , for awhile. Find its strengths and just use all tools available (which seems ytour strategy already) instead of relying on just one.
hello
is there any actual support in here? because this is now driving me insane. why cant I BUY credits
restarted the browser still not able to upload files its not supporting sound files images are shown
Any prompt to make a villain's song? Something like broadway and charismatic?
Those seem good. Have you tried? Add theatrical.
I mean, I have an 800 character prompt lol, even though I use gpt 5 to create it
I tend to be a minimalist when it comes to prompts. But at least copy your 800 character prompt and delete. Then just put broadway, charismatic, theatrical, and a couple like, sinister and dark. And see if thats enough. If close, tweak it. If too commercial, saccharine, cliché, hackneyed, then paste your prompt back and surgically add prompts to find the sweet spot.
I never considered this! Though I am not working off covers these are fresh generations over several days with new tabs and it consistently uses that obnoxious voice but hell I'll try anything at this point!
This chat is called tech prompt talk but there's barely any of it lol
What do you mean, you canât buy credits?
I think it means tech and prompt talk lol
Yeah but nobody have even a smidge of cool prompting really
Well feel free to offer some. Not sure what cool is. In this regard.
I follow 2k people and only 2 or 3 of them even have anything close to complex
Oh you mean prompt meta from on site users
Yeah well I mean average is average. Which is why itâs the average. I wager much of the âcool promptingâ is probably going to be with the more experimental users. Not the average lot who are focusing on making their lyrics or idea sound just good to them. Without diving into the âwhat crazy sound can I push it to performâ as more experimental users would probably do. Just have to suss them out of the other lot.
I canât think offhand itâs been a while since Iâve actually dug through a bunch of other users profiles. But a good bit ago there was quite a few people who tried a lot of interesting things. Who was it that wrote the prompting guide, I donât remember he had a lot of interesting stuff back with 3.5 and such I forget who that was though. But people like him you can find some nifty stuff in their profile
Every song I've made with the v5 recently, the volume goes up drastically towards the end of the song.
I cant find the difference between v 4.5 and 5
Main difference is v4.5 follows instructions sometimes đ
I'm finding that V5 is not as context aware as V4.5 and in general just takes less risks with the creative nuances, which in my opinion is where Suno has always shined and stood apart from everyone else. 4.5+ absolutely loves an exclamation point (sometimes too much), whereas v5 will disregard it more often than not. But these things might be more or less genre specific
I find with v5:
Style 50%: a very safe approximation of what you asked for
Style 100%: the same thing but louder
It also seems to generate stuff very samesy even when weirdness is to the moon. Where with 4.5 it would give you more variety with the typical stability risks, with v5 I feel like I just get the same thing with the instability issues.
But it does seem to respond better if you provide audio for it to cover. I'm probably going to do things in v4.5 like I was and try covers into v5 for that reason
After being here close to 2 years, ive read plenty of posts of what people use as their prompts. Having said that.... Its typically best to leave it for someone to ask for specific help with a specific goal.
Otherwise, the prompts, styles and tags that work with Suno for the multiple outcomes is nearly uncountable. Hard to make a post to fit in just under a small paragraph about that.
So, what are you looking for here? Often we just refer users to the community Workflow channel for anything more extensive than "How do I make an extension?"
"Cool or complex prompting" is relative to the outcome. Again, when someone gets something they like, it's fine to infrequently post exactly what they did/prompted as well as a link to their song.
Here , there seems more the need for "practical" prompting, as in how to get a spoken voice instead of a singing one.
I must say, ive cover many older songs into 5.0 and find it "follows" prompts in a different way at least.
For instance, where I use "gospel" in 4.5 to get a minor key and vamping vibe, but set down the line in the prompt list to just give nuance, v. 5.0 finds it and give a gospel choir in all my choruses, to the point I am needing to delete many of my prompts to keep 5.0 from making them so prominent.
yes! 100%, struggling to recreate anything old into a higher quality, completely changes the song almost to an unrecognizable state, makes a lot of mistakes too
quality is definitely very good. Personally I just want the creativity and contextual awareness of 4.5+ into the quality of V5
Oh man I saw "gospel" and it made me relive my ear with "gospel, choir, chant, ritual, spoken" and all of the derivatives that gpt ended mashing and it always felt I had a church delivery with monotone verses, drove me insane the first time I fell in the trap and only noticed a few track gens in
All new models are like stereograms. We've really got to take three months of staring at them until we finally see the actual impressive figure it was made to show. Then we go "oh cool. Now i get it!". Until then, we just feel frustrated, as if its not up to expected benchmarks.
We never truly know that as well until the next version comes out. đ
thats very true, I think I had an issue with every model at first, then suddenly I didn't lol
It's really gd annoying how v5 crams everything into 2-3 minutes. I'm also continuously surprised at how many instruments SUNO apparently doesn't know. Venture just a bit outside of the mainstream and SUNO goes
Is there a way to see the prompt you used when generating a simple song?
not that I've seen
seems that in studio, trying to change lyrics in the voice channel just adds all kinds of artefact. Shouldn't the algorythm know that it's only supposed to change voice ?
If I cancel my annual subscription, let's say after 28 days, will I get the refund for the remaining 11 months or what?
for eg, Annual sub is currently $202, which equals to about 16.8 monthly. If I cancel my sub after a few days, will I get $185?
Is there an option to turn off the 'snap to grid'? I have a clip I need to move slightly but it's only letting me move it in full beat increments.
in studio that is
ah I found it by trial and error. ctrl drag
Hi,
With Bark, can I currently generate a voice (for example by prompting âmale, 32 years oldâ), keep that same voiceâmaybe by saving the seed IDâand then use it to generate audio of that voice speaking different sentences(not singing) with specific emotions like crying, anger, happiness, or sadness?
I notice a good portion of songs now have 'parts.' Not like different verses, but where songs deliberately change tune and style mid-way or towards the end (e.g. Joji's Gimme Love has two distinct parts, one fast-paced that covers 2/3 of the song and the final 1/3 is much more hushed and slow). Has anyone tried this with Suno?
You can add tags in the verse markers where you put your lyrics. IE
[Verse 1 - Tags]
Lyrics
Lyrics
Lyrics
Lyrics
[Verse 2 - different tags]
lyrics
...
Oh interesting, cool.
I don't typically make music with lyrics, but I do the same thing (In the lyrics portion) to gett different sounds for different segments.
haven't tried that with v5 (though I can accomplish much of what I wanted to do there in Studio)
This is especially useful when you want the chorus to have a different sound - or a particular bridge section
same idea
[Chorus - tags]
or
[Bridge - tags]
I had success with something similar using the style prompts "male vocals with a theatrical and nasal voice, fast-talking delivery, cartoon villain flair, humorous tone, speech-like verses with exaggerated enunciation, character performance"
This was aimed at creating a song for more of a cartoon villain, and did very well in the round, except for struggling a bit with a section that required over the top villainous laughter.
If you were looking for more of a Broadway musical style villain, then you'd definitely want to tweak the style prompt accordingly.
Yes, youâre completely right. Just to mention, the problem for me started when they changed the interface before V5 came out. Even version 4.5 gives me the same result. So I have to take an extra step: use V4.5 on my phone, which works well, then go to the computer to listen to it and, as you mentioned, sometimes make the cover in V5.
I really rely on producing albums and time is essential. Before the interface update, I had no issues. I hope they fix this soon.
i am using suno studio im trying to replace some stems to make them a higher quality but it is generate a whole different song anyone know why
5.0 sounds great BUT I have the problem that all songs start with the same intro - a female voice singing ' huhuhu'... sigh! Even when I tried to remixe it and added other music styles.
Ok, [instrumental intro] seemed to get rid of the 'huhuhu' but now I have it in the new song - lol
Yeah it loves doing that, I get it all the time too now
Anyone else have noticed that v5 cannot generate songs that are more than 4 minutes long? This is not an upgrade, this is back to the bad old days of v4...
is there a prompt that will successfully stop all this ad-lib yodelling in the intro of a song? all of a sudden I can't get a single song to generate without it, no matter what I try.
so i did more digging into the sound quality of suno v3.5 and v5 mp3 and i found that : V3.5 -> 320kbps @ 44.1khz VS V5 -> 201 variable bitrate @ 48khz
I have done several songs which are longer than 4 minutes
To my observations song lenght depends on the server load when you use Simple Create.
little curious about audio quality as well
if i can ask, could you by chance hand me a .wav file of one your (assumably generated) V5 songs?
i wanna see if it covers more of the spectrum than previously and stuff
Why would you export mo3 if it can export WAV.
Storage / upload limits that you may have when uploading it somewere
to Post on discord
but this is coming from a free tier user
so idk
Not just on discord.
hello, I've noticed that SUNO (v3.5) generates a song as it should, but when song is over there is usually a small brake and then its plays a small part of the song in completely different style. First I thought that is because end the end of the song I had ... but now I'm generating without and its the same. Any ideas?
I was testing the difference in quality with mp3 and wave. When i download the mp3 and wave and a/b them in my daw i noticed that the mp3 had more stereo mid widths and a slight of eq with a some extra transients added. I then tried to see what the sound quality was between them and i heard almost no difference in quality between the wav and the mp3. especially with house orientated music the transients on the kick and the hi hats sound really digitized. as a sample on 128kbps. So i tried another way and i edited the track put it on steady 128 bpm and then saved it as a new file. Then i downloaded that file again as a wave and also the original file as a wave. compared both waves in my daw and now i noticed that the edited version (i just loaded it in and saved it. did not do any editing) sounds better then the normal wav download option.
Probably becuase mp3 is the native generated song
I used moises to extract the different stems from the wave file. I get 13 different individual stems instead of 6 with suno. It even splits the drums into seperate parts.
mp3 has âjoint stereoâ to make size smaller, when itâs not encoded in maximum quality, maybe thatâs what youâre hearing there. WAV is pure uncompressed original.
It canât be because mp3 is lossy. They must be keeping originals in PCM stream which is WAV
Did you extract from mp3?
I did some digging and this is what i found : Suno, the model doesnât render traditional audio first â it creates a latent representation (basically a compressed neural audio code). This is similar to what happens in text-to-speech (TTS) or latent diffusion audio models.
both as a test. You can hear in the audio spectrum that they 'fixed' the mp3 a bit. but the created hats, the transients going out of sync on the kick, claps which sounds harsh, keeps the same with the mp3 file and the wav. so you won't get suddenly better sound drums etc with a wav file. The ai has a hard time still to create consistent quality drum sounds.
Is the download button broken for anyone else ?
but the issue i found now is that when you edit a track and save it, the extra effects in the eq and stereo mids are now present in the wav as well. So if you download the wav directly without editing the wave file sound less edited. but if you edit your track and even don't edit it but save it away after setting it on a fixed bpm, the exported wave file sounds exactly the same as the mp3
remastering a track in suno is a nono. i don't what the ai is doing but it is messing up the whole track as in bad audio quality
Hi, is possible to use only one colour of voice for all songs?
Try using "Persona" and "Inspo" features. Create Persona of the voice, then create Inspo of multile songs of the same voice.
Ok did some eq testing on the wav file and as i suspected the information above 16 KHZ is zero. A reel wave file should have information above this frequency, so it is cut off.
Did an analyse on this :
Key Findings:
- Suno v3 (2024): 320 kbps @ 44.1 kHz
- Suno v5 (2025): ~200 kbps @ 48 kHz (sounds better despite lower bitrate)
Verification:
- File size test confirmed the 201 kbps is real, not fake metadata
- Your 6:24 track = 9.2 MB, which matches perfectly: (201 kbps Ă 384 sec) / 8 = ~9.4 MB
Critical Discovery:
- Spectrum analysis (FabFilter Pro-Q) shows Suno's AI generates content only up to ~16 kHz
- Above 16-17 kHz there's a steep roll-off with virtually no content
- This explains why WAV and MP3 sound identical
Conclusion:
- Suno v5 uses efficient encoding: lower bitrate but better AI model = better sound
- WAV downloads don't provide better listening quality - they only contain the same ~16 kHz that the MP3 has
- WAV is only useful for professional editing/processing without generation loss, not for audio quality improvement
- The 200 kbps MP3 @ 48 kHz captures everything Suno actually generates
so the whole WAVE is better in suno is just nonsense
it's a wrapped mp3
There's a difference between "the Suno v3 audio problems are not a result of compressed mp3 encoding" and "Suno v3 wavs are just mp3 files wrapped" which would be a bug.
My eq does not lie neither does span analyzer
will you please also test the Remaster function with EQ analysis? Curious if remaster does anything to influence outputs
(I suspect "Remaster" is an audio super sampling and upscale model)
i don't even have to test it with an eq. i can hear it smudges the complete audio frequency. remaster is broken in suno
What you need to add in your prompt to get a 'first time right' is to use the following prompt : clear audio, no compression, best audio quality. <- V5 AI is better in understanding sound design till a point.
so cymbals might be the most impacted audio events, might be perceptible to the human ear too
if you do want to use suno in your daw i highly suggest to use the application : MOISES dot ai . There you can split in high audio quality up until 13 seperate stems
I like Suno built in splitter, but sometimes I will also play with Intels openvino one in audacity (local)
yup that's why hats in house tracks and claps sound smashed as the highs are not getting room to play. Best is to remove the drums ( also the kick as the ai can't consistently create the same kick once and also misses the transients) and then add the drums yourself or take one kick drum which sounds the best and use that same kick sample to create consistency
I'm still personally ecstatic with v5 outputs so far, while I appreciate the nuance of technically correct EQ, the model is "good enough" (being SOTA) for me
Worth making a bug report in one of the other bug report areas of the discord though with your full analysis, I suspect the devs would be more likely to read there
"technically correct EQ is a failed task for V5" or something like that
Why use 3.5?
Man I really hope they remove the limitation on signs we can use entirely or at least raise them to something higher than 5000 and 1000. It makes no sense why there is even a limitation the begin with. I mean in most cases we need to Extend anyway so it makes no sense why limiting our creativity. I hate it if I have to painfully remove stuff that would have been great in the song only because it is longer than 5000 signs.
Does anyone know how you can see the prompt used to generate a track that has already been generated? I thought this would be stored with the track but I haven't been able to find it in track info.
I have an question on suno studio, are separate files with artifacts or is the quality good or is it similar to downloading separate files in pro
should be there, no? this is a sample song from homepage.
Forgive me if this is the wrong spot. I was suggested to come here for this question but the upload button on the mobile app is not there. I do have pro.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Mobile app has limit functionality - use web browser instead, try mobile web browser.
I did try mobile web browser. It immediately opened up the app with no other apparent option. However, I can just use my PC at home. I was just hoping it had an upload feature on mobile as suggested by Google.
Yh some reason on mobile I canât select the singer gender which is odd (the app)
If you use Chrome on your mobile, there's an option to load page as desktop - try that.
Thank you sir. I appreciate it!
Hopefully we get a built in options on modern phones to choose if u wanna open the app if itâs linked to a site sometimes my Samsung just opens the app when tryna access the site đ
Great detective work. I hope that the mooted âMax Modeâ will enable a greater WaV dynamic frequency as it seems server load is making a difference
Question I canât seem to find Max mode is on the higher tiers of subscriptions than the base one?
I think it remembers the choice if you did it once - there might be a way to clear that and it'd remain on web until you choose to open mobile app again.
how do you guys force studio to create new stems (eg drums) to sound the same as the song working on? for me generates totally different sounds and i just want to change an intro or a break
So shimmer was above 16 kHz? haha
No joy.
That's still mobile interface - click 3 dots there on top right and switch on Desktop mode.
..... I promise I'm not always this slow. Lol
That's odd. Even after clicking that it did load the desktop site but the upload option still isn't there
They didn't stealthily remove that from pro subscriptions and give it only to premiere did they?
actually...
Here's what it looks like even without Desktop mode on my phone browser... see that +Audio? click that and you'll see Upload option
There it is!! That's going to make life so much easier. I appreciate you sir! Thank you very much
Itâs not live yet
Ah I see any mention on when or nah?
No clarity on it yet. But if it comes in itâll be great for fidelity and prove that the quality is tied to server resources
Ah I see so it u do ur normal gen and u have mad mode on and ill assume it will take more credits for significantly better quality?
Rn v5 has really nice quality so max mode kinda got me excited
If this gets activated itâll be a game changer for me
WOAH cool I canât wait I have the $10 or $12 sub idk which one is it but itâs really cool hopefully this month I can upgrade sub and use the studio thing
V5 is so good Iâve had a song I did on loop for a bit now đ
As of now is there even a way to include Sound Effects? Because it seems not to work I tried a lot. Like phone ringing, TV static, bike ring, stepping on a cat, machinegun shots, people screaming etc. None of them work.
Unfortunately Suno isn't really good with SFW. You'd better off with upload and add it if you have access to Studio.
This is not live yet or? When is it coming?
Any good source to get such weird sounds?
There are several free sound sites - this is just one sample one (freesound.org)
How would u use SFX in sumo u upload it then what do u say to the AI?
Be sure to search by Creative Commons Zero (public domain) licenses to make the rights situation as simple as possible....
I don't prompt for it - I just lay the audio on the timeline in Suno Studio - but yeah make sure you can use the sound in your project
Would have done the same.
Ah I see
I have no idea but it would make a world of difference for fidelity I think. Itâs the one thing I need to use the generations in a studio setting
getting some interesting outputs with various seeds by adding "[Track 9]" {or other track numbers} at the start of lyrics when doing an extension of another song.
Is studio good Iâve never used anything like a daw or studio software properly
Simple answer is Studio does more than we can do before Studio. The simplest thing is we can paste/patch different songs/outputs/segments together.
Read the announcement for other features:
Oooo cool I may try when I upgrade my sub this month
Ive been having fun just grabbing segments or choruses from songs I have in a Playlist, cascading each one into its own added track. Overlap and Set the fade between them. And I have a DJ mix or fun medley of all the hooky parts in my Playlist songs. Takea about 30 minutes.
Initially, Suno tends to adjust them all to the same BPM so the beats line up, it appears. So im working out whether thats a good thing all the time.
It sounds fun I come from producer AI so when I heard suno V5 was really good I decide to try it and so far I really like it
Use both and you'll be a Power User! đ
Iwl I like the GPT API they have u can speak to
Itâs Ok. Itâs very early so expect big improvements over the next few months. I use Logic Pro X so currently I find little value in Studio, but I can see its potential. Particularly in generating instrument sections on the fly
Yep. Chat GPT is fun. Try Grok, Sesame, Gemini, CoPilot..... [hint: presently Grok doesnt time out and will just wait for you to talk]
I love Gemini for its Nanobana grok is the most NSFW out of the big mainstream LLM
For GPT itâs the most limited on usage without a sub
But itâs ok
All are really sappy to compliment your songs though. Haha. Apparently not easy to train to be "critical". ( keeping the subject on Songwriting)
Is there a way to prompt that the song is not to be sung fast or is it the lyrics that causes suno to sing it fast
Are the stems having issues right now? I keep getting "A System Error Occurred" on every attempt. Reloaded browser, too.
Same issue in Studio.
Yeah I always want to test if AI can do Eminem speed rapping canât seem to prompt it
I need to learn how to use a DAW seems really fun
Peruse the Home page. Might find one thats close to what you want. Then check out their promptings or tags. (This question has been asked since March 2024 -- prompts are out there to test -- just each new version has to be tweaked)
Ty
If you just want fun speed rap, you can use all or some of these prompts.
polyphonic speedcore, chopper rap, hyper-glitch, frenchcore, japanese metal, hip-hop, machine-gun rap, ăšăŹăŻăă, hardtek, ăăă, j-core. [Frenchcore just in there for flavour]
Now I have to go and look up what "Frenchcore" is đ€Ł đ€Ł
Ummmm.... ABBA on heroine? đ
Same here, think it's down. Atleast for us đ
Ok, if it's not just me, all good. 
That's two minutes of my life I'll never get back...đ€Ł
Ty
Some French core I really like
Running those prompts...
Wait thatâs cool
If we never take a breath. But realistically, probably can't be done. Haha. Someone challenged me to do 500 words in two minutes. I won.
Ts is pretty cool
If you remove the line spaces and the 4-line stanzas on the parts you want wrapped, that will help. Just have paragraphs or phrases with ni line spacing.
that's a good prompt
Has anyone had trouble using the "Extend" option in v5, everytime i try and use it , it comes up with an error and dosnt generate anything?,Thanks
Hey guys.
Is there a way to trim a song?
Reason Iâm asking is because Suno generated exactly what I want but at the 30 second mark, the song restarts.
Can u give me a example Iâm a little confused đ
What I noticed after burning 9000 credits with V5 in many melodic genres (I did not listen to all the songs yet):
- Many times the songs have the same voice or very similar voice (no diversity)
- Many times the song start with the same key, chords or sound (no diversity). With 4.5+ it was the same problem, I even got the same songs 7 times in the row... is this really a random seed ????
- Many times way too much reverb (missing the diversity in the vocal fx and way of singing)
- Some time a whispering way of singing and too "pussycat" ...like the vocalist would want to impress someone
But still amazing compositions and arrangements.. the V5 is WOW, but it still need some tweaks.
What I noticed also is that a new model makes amazing songs 1-2 months and than average again.
This could be due to the further training and learning (with bad music).,..
I noticed that after release lf 4.0 and 4.5 and 4.5+...
Well thatâs tech for u it never sleeps it will get better
my workspace of over 1 year of various model generations is only 4215 songs, and this person has double those just for v5..... that's some next level curation
I love V5
i wonder if adding a single first name to the prompt would help diversity "gerald's voice" or something
Example of just a flowing train of thought instead of in verse form...
[Spoken vocal] [rap]
Electric storm, pixels bleed raw, data spike sharp as a lionâs claw., Words hit faster than machine-gun law, Chaos conductor, Iâm the last outlaw, Riffs collide in a feedback war,, Bassline booming, it shakes the floor.skyscrapers crumble, they beg for more, language of fire, Iâm the metalcore lore.
But my prompts worked with a few outputs tweaking until I got it right. Adding or subtracting prompts or changing lyrics will always get a new result. But its a good starting point
Ooooo thank you
is anyone else getting a system error when trying to generate stems?
And be minimal on use of commas and periods. Those will slow it down often.
any fix for that? or is it on the system side?
i think it's a system side error
System
tbh i don't think it's very cool đ
technical errors can happen đ
it's workign again!
Depends for me itâs happened a bit but not to much
my last 20 generations start with ah "ohhh" đ
and no.. it wasn't in the lyrics..
update: last 24 generations
^^
Hm maybe try adding some sort of instrumental at the start? I haven't tried that yet though
Like [Short catchy guitar riff], etc
in this case it's electronic music đ
Ah, replace guitar riff with just instrumental
26 generations đ i think it's a part of the elctronic music game... but i also have some nu-metal songs.. suno likes to start with ah "ohhhh ohh ohohhh" đ
every model has it's own style.. 4.5+ likes to scream.. 5 likes "oh" in the beginning đ
Any classical composers here interested in following Suno because of the possibility of generating AI mockups of MIDI?
Iâm getting that damn ooh ahh every generation too! Itâs v5 shimmer!
I don't understand the question - because is the newes (free) one? does version has something to do with problem I have?
3.5 is simply outdated
will this work better for v5? do you know if this new version incorporates more dreamscape/ambient/ethereal tuning to create songs like any of this playlist? https://open.spotify.com/playlist/72gb6uvQGxuSbdl7IAiXPz
engineer your prompting with a bpm range and dictate the key signature.
https://suno.com/s/3Wmyb23YwUlVBtEz
i only notice errant vocal stabs or melisma when using very vague prompts in the style box.
don't get me wrong - but that was not my question đ
3.5 does that sometimes... you can always edit the song to remove the extra part, inside Suno or at your DAW. But yeah, that's version specific, newer models won't do it.
I'm increasingly getting vocals added to instrumental tracks, so just leaving the lyrics box empty clearly doesn't work.
Its only me or after V5 release you can not give a "theme" on the custom lyrics tab? I was very used of just adding a theme for the vocals, and it would create a song using that theme, put for exemple, if i put on lyrics " lyrics about night drive " it keeps that as lyrics, repeting the theme. Am i the only one who noticed that? Now i need to generate a full lyric and then create on top of it
have you tried putting [Instrumental] in your lyrics box?
Not sure if anyone needs to know this, but I --finally-- found a repeatable way to create a prompt, that allows for chorus melodies, where the lead is male and the female vocals are just harmonizing.
The key here is: JSON prompting.
here is an example prompt I used:
{
"style": "Gothic Darkwave with Irish Folk",
"tempo": "Allegro, driving",
"vocals": {
"lead": "Deep bass-baritone male, tense, bitter, always in front",
"support": "Ethereal female siren, Irish folk style, light and haunting"
},
"instruments": {
"bass": "Urgent, melodic, shaped with Celtic modal scales",
"guitars": "Flanged post-punk, sharp edges, echoing Irish tonal patterns",
"synths": "Layered analog pads, darkwave foundation",
"fiddle": "Prominent Irish fiddle, traditional Celtic ornamentation, modal phrasing"
},
"mood": "Angry, atmospheric, folkloric edge"
}
Song can be found here:
https://suno.com/s/hnw1gfidTLBkncry
impressive
Interestng indeed - but curious - while your lyric doesn't specify which line or verse for leads... how does it decide who sings what You mentioned repeatable? for different lyric?
dear lord on this uptade I swear they do something to the "Extend" feature. I can't extend the song further than 5 minutes on a 4;20 minutes song. All the extensions are just so short It's barely called an extension. Do you guys have a secret formula to fix that?
I pasted the lyrics section as I used it here... sorry I had cleaned up the lyrics, before publishing
you might fall from your chair knowing my song number ... it is 10x more than yours đ
Ah now, it makes more sense -
you shouldn't clean up your lyric if you want to share as ways for others to learn and try....
great stuff btw!
Thank you and you are right, I just have to get over my OCD đ -- I am working on it đ
Should post in #1252267444773326848 as it'd be easier to find it for users and others can comment specifically if it's working for them or not - or this would get lost in this channel and harder to find the specific chat
I didn't see the channel, thank you. I will repost it there.
Ah, I was going to say - it must have been a mild miracle that Suno correctly assigned lead and support vocals without prompting.
Even with a prompted version, I still found it as hit and miss as narrative style prompting that specifies two seperate singers. For example, switching it to a female lead and male support with prompting still led to a male lead two times out of four, and in two out of four unprompted cases the 'support' alternated verses with the lead and duetted on the chorus without any direct prompting. Tests were done in both v4.5 and v5.
However, what a flipping amazing sound; one of the v4.5 generations was absolutely gorgeous. JSON prompting clearly works, and it's useful for having a very character-efficient way to communicate a lot of information to Suno.
Not a silver bullet to male/female duets though, at least in my trial run.
I was able to get a pretty fast lyrical section about 50% into the song. Hopefully you can use it as a guide. (If posting a song as a guide is not allowed, I'll remove it.)
https://suno.com/s/4Gxf4JvaRsB7zIrS
Ooo thank u
Hello, I tried to upload one of my songs to Suno and get a copyright error for the lyrics. However, the lyrics are absolutely mine. Has anyone had this issue?
It's not something I've run into myself, but I presume at least part of it is similar enough to an existing work that it triggered the copyright check.
You didn't publish the original work yourself anywhere, I presume?
I am trying to use an uploaded snippet of my voice as a vocal guide, but suno keeps returning 5 second songs since thats how long my snippet is. the snippet is for tone. I keep reading that it's a minimum of 3 seconds my clip is six. Help?
Did you already try the "Extend" remix feature?
a few more seconds in the upload might help. try saving it in your library and then doing a cover of it. if that doesn't help, try dialing down audio influence. just guesses.
I'm going to commit a war crime how is possible to THAT be COPYRIGHTED
........
I've literally generated the song fully song, wanted to change the final part because it's too generic, try to put ANYTHING on this section (even blank, as you can see) and it's says it's... copyrighted?
well, I should stick with the original one then.
what a shame.
Dear Suno, please train your nu-metal model on some Korn
Anything is possible.
So to note - off the top of my head: "Tell Me! Tell me!" is a very catchy line in "How to be a Millionaire" a well know top 20 song by ABC from 1984. You never know what Suno is seeing.
If you're just using filler lines, switch and use anything that's not a common phrase and see what happens.
anyone got issues with projects getting stuck after exporting a song..i.e. the new song gets stuck saving/processing for the lst hour
my brother in christ I've literally wrote absolutly nothing later on and still flawed it. And, of course, this is a "replacement", so, on the first gen, Suno allowed me to write that on the lyrics. It has no sense. I've changed it, same. Another language, same. Put nothing on it (blank), same.... It seems more like a copyright problem than a skill issue of mine tbh

Got it. Its also common for Suno to find groups of letters between words that could trigger it, but I only saw a few lines. So, presuming there are more lyrics, you can run them by ChatGPT or other to see if they find any hidden names or words that could trigger it.
Hope you find a solution then, my friend.
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"...Suno is not allowing me to turn off "Allow Remixes" for my own songs if I used my own persona to generate it...."
@twilit comet I checked a song made with my persona, and was able to turn off Remix. You may check both Visibility in the menu and Song Detail / (More Options) to make sure both have turned off. Also, sometimes when turning one off and checking the other one, the first one might turn back on. Turn the second one off, wait a minute and see if the other then turns back off.
@supple moon
"......Hey guys.
Is there a way to trim a song?
Reason Iâm asking is because Suno generated exactly what I want but at the 30 second mark, the song restarts....."
The editors... New and Legacy are available in the menu. You can Crop, Remove, Delete, etc with both editors.
Thank you for testing it, much appreciated. Yeah there is no such thing as a silver bullet, if my post came across as such, sorry. But it was way more "predicatble" and I did not blow through my credits as I usually do.
I did another one for 60 seconds Now my clips are mostly 58 seconds and when they are 2 minutes it sounds like the lyrics are being rushed through đ€·đ»
I'm not sure how you mean to use this. I uploaded a longer clip for 60 seconds today and now my songs are 60 seconds and the ones I can get for 2 minutes are definitely rushed
I've yet to use the new version, so I don't know.
Is assume that the new version reacts the same as 4.5, so all you need to do is focus on the main genre you want and layer in aspects of other genres, with their specific instruments/play patterns, using a combination of focus prompts, weightings and scales:
Main Genre: Ambient Low-Fi. Secondary Genre: Dreamwave (40%), Etherealwave (35%).
Weirdness: 70%
Style Prompt: 75%
And then whatever else you want.
Out of curiosity, what were the style and weirdness weights that you gave the generation for Guard Your Heart?
No. I mean "Extend" instead of "Cover".
Iâm on a Premier plan, but the Make Persona button is always grayed out when I try saving from a cover. Other Premier users seem to have this working. Do anyone know why?
My reply used neither extend nor cover so I'm no clearer as to how you meant to use extend.
and this is how you answer a question! THANK YOU
Quick question: is there a way to prompt SUNO to do a "BOY BAND"? You know, those choral parts where all the boys in the band sound like Nsync or Backstreet Boys?
is the original song being covered using uploaded vocals?
The problem I have with v5 is all song generations do not resolve. They clip the waveform. Meaning there's some jiggery pokery to get a proper 'ending'.
Something like this? You can see the simple styles used (essentially subgenres that have grouped vocals). Using different male names for the verses can help - or at least it used to back in 3.5
https://suno.com/s/crp9MUzYSunkcUef
Iâm getting copyright issues with my lyrics. But itâs bullshit because Iâve literally made this song , itâs produced it before and now thereâs an issue?
do you mean CO strike OUTSIDE Suno? (like in YT?
How do you know about weighting like this ? First time I see this.
I hope there is a page where I see what my credits are used for when. The same way it is with any other service I use.
Help, Model was automatically changed to support your selected conditions.
For something like East 17 youâd have to go with a prompt that looked at the layered vocal harmonics. Phil Harding was a mastermind of production for âStay With Meâ, mixing the vocals only first with I believe it over 30 vocal layers. Perhaps try promoting the production method of layered harmonies and vocal width as a starting point.
howdy everyone, question - if i want heaving breathing, IE britney spears used to feature heavy breathing like in slave 4 u, how would i prompt it? ive tried using () and [] but it either says it word for word "heavy breathing" or ignores it
Testing.
Did you test with 0%?
Put one genre with 0 to the front and see if it sounds still like it
No, I would test it with a Genre like Rock, Retrowave, Pop against:
Rock (50%), Retrowave (25%), Pop (25%)
Rock (25%), Retrowave (50%), Pop (25%)
Etc.
Yeah but the 0 would show you if weighting works at all
The end result of trying to get a near identical verse to the first one using extend and a persona.... after like a 100 attempts
include something about the vocals having a realistic delivery
in the prompt
might influence it to care about the inline tags
I'll try, tyvm
Have you tried putting 'backstreet_boys' in the input, then doing a magic prompt?
I put 'kate_bush" + magic prompt it, then i got my vocalist singing like her
Maybe that method only works, if the 'keyword' is something unique.
Or try this,
boy group, 5 distinct voices, vocal line distribution, vocal harmonies, tenor register,
When I name artists it blocks it
you can also specify that there are vocal harmonies in specific parts of the song
yeah you can't name the artist
what you can do is find out exactly what gengre the song is from, and the period which it is from.
in the same way that, instead of just saying "rap" you'd say "west side rap in the 1970's"
Would I put the "heavy breathing" in () or in style prompt like [female vocals, heavy breathing]
() is for lyrics, [] is for effects or specifics
Ty
LIke
[Chorus]
Cause I'll
ALWAYS get up (Always get up)
ALWAYS get up (Always get up)
I may fall but I'll
ALWAYS get up (Always get up)
ALWAYS get up (Always get up)
...
"chorus" is in brackets, and the backing vocals in parentheses
I could put [Screams]
In a line there somewhere and it'll likely try to include that somehow
Brb gonna try
woops
anyone know how to get it to follow exactly the original audios melodies and chords? I have found since v5 release the quality is a lot worse. especially in its ability to strictly adhere to your prompts even in older models
đ© is on the list
Ohhh
You can specify what kind of chorus/verse/bridge you want too
[Crescendo Bridge]
Healthy? Lol fat chance
Tasty? In my hands
Cause I don't care what I eat
Don't play by life's rules, I cheat
You see, my life rules, all meat
So baby turn up the heat
Because from where I stand
I know you'll understand
That the risk of cancer, strokes and blood clots
aint got ****
on mother **** hotdogs stands!
Let's go! No bad words
:D
letsssss go- it did it!
[Female heavy panting and breathing over bass drop]
if you like those kind of female vocals, like sensual, go to my profile and try the song "just like that"
I love love love Britney so I hope that's a nod to slave 4 u
Imma take a listen in just a sec
It's not a nod to anything in particular, just an experiment to see how spicy I could make a song
Oh - she says "like that" several times in "slave 4 u" so I thought maybe Britney fan as well
Oh suno will definitely do spicy lol very spicy
There were a lot of lyric manipulation tricks that had to be done to get it to work
What do you click then, to make a song from your audio?
Question: if I export my stems in MIDI format, can those me used in my notation software?
Just using the sliders and adjusting as needed seems to be the most influential.
As Suno would not "clone" your voice, it can do a good job at generatively emulating it, but ive never gotten anything consistent. Only a close proximate once sliders were introduced.
That said, your question was exact "melody and chords". Suno does well with that though by setting Audio slider close to 100% on a Cover. If it misses a note or chord, perhaps thats likely. A very clear, ambient-noise-free audio upload is preferred. But ive had great results with 4.0 in the past with a very incoherent and noisy recording. With version 5.0, I have not experimented as much with uploads yet.
And have no style prompts.
If there is singing, lyrics are preferred to Void Suno hallucinating over an instrumental.
What have you tried that seems to not work well?
I was having great success with 4.5 but I have found 5 has given me more bugs and hallucinations. even generating hooks and melodies from other songs i previouly created that are completely differnt
Yes. There are strengths in each model. We may unlock that in 5.0 somehow, eventually tweaking it out. But if 4.5 is working well. Go with that. Remaster or cover in 5.0 to enhance it, or leave it alone.
yeah I have found that the issues are now present in 4.5 as well.. it could just be the song im working on
Ultimate consistency trick discovered:
Take the song, cut it off after the chorus, right before the verse starts. Copy paste that onto the track, essentially creating Verse1 (V1), Chorus1 (C1). (see the image of the track)
Then extend from the timestamp that the original, non-copied version stops.
ALSO, create a persona from JUST the verse you want. And then use the settings shown in the image when generating
Thats hard to say. We hope the old models are "locked in" and nothing "borrowed from" that would diminish what we love about the older models. Its so random though with every prompt or word becoming a variable. Its difficult to say with running q00 generations of the same thing to compare.
Im with you on that. Who knows.
Hey there, I'm just wondering if it is even possible to download songs that are in my library through the Suno AI Android app as the option isn't showing. Can someone please send a screen shot of the option?
I genuinely can't see it. There's the allow remix option instead of download.. Btw, I'm using vivo y20g running Android 13, the Suno AI app is also updated to the latest version.
@subtle trench Yea. You're missing the download option. You have the other options in order, same as mine.
@subtle trench You might clear the cache in your phone or restart the phone. Your latest model update should be 1.30.1
Last Android update was September 18th I think.
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I have a really good song but it skipped a few important lyrics at the intro part I keep trying to edit them in with the editor but it doesnt work what are ways to add them without ruining the rest of the music?
Why does Studio need a sound file at least 6 seconds long? This is so dumb. I mean if I need a sound that is only 2 seconds long why should I stretch it and later cut it again. I am not allowed to upload a 2,5 Second SFX file. This is beyond logic.
I dont know. But banking off the idea that, as a generative AI, an audio upload is treated same as a Replace in the editor. It needs a relative amount of noise to compare to the left and right of any point in order to tokenize the audio later into something coherent enough to then be able to cover or extend it with a similar melody line or chord progression or even vocal quality.
If you could at least upload just two seconds, all it could ever do is give you a recording. Thats it. It could not generate anything from it. It would hallucinate and do its own thing, similar to extending from a 2-second extension.
Totally a guess as Im an idiot to these things, but in my mind, seems a comparatively reasonable assumption.
I often add enough silence in front and behind an upload of a 1-second audio and just clip off the edges, as you mentioned. A bit tedious, but simple as well. It tends to be a "recorded sound only" , but now, with Studio, we can splice it anywhere and remaster or cover to blend it in. .
I've found that setting the Audio Influence to 100% produces very weird results, nothing close to the original either. I've had much better luck with 75%
How can i get suno to do what's inside the prompt. As example in Verse 2 the voice should still be arthas, but it is not https://suno.com/s/E8j36TZ95yRqS88e
Is there maybe a good guide to follow?
remix with "new vocals" ?
just an idea đ
@sharp vector : short question.. are you the guy with the BoomBoomRaps GPT ?
Suno changes my vocals to another one how can I keep?
Suno doesn't play too nicely with duets, but if you want to increase the chances of it getting it right, then specify and describe the two singers in the style prompt as well as prompting within the lyrics as you've done.
Expect mixed results and a few regenerations/extend buildups to get it right.
I feel like I'm not the person you intended to ping?
No in either case.
ok đ
We'd need a bit more context than that.
like what?
well.. you type in your vocals and suno is changing them in the output?
I add my covers with my voice but yes it changes totally different
so we are talking about uploads with vocals and then the cover function?
3.5 not working with persona? Why
Unfortunately Suno doesn't clone a voice - so while you can upload your singing, Suno will generate a voice as close to yours but never exact the same.
@jagged narwhal i think suno is the wrong service with the idea you have đ
sounds like you have a "ready" song and you want to pimp it up with suno.. or something like that đ
You can always have Suno make the song and you just record your vocals separately and add them together in a program like Audacity.
huh? đ đ
you see.. we don't have enough informations about your intension đ
He's asking about what you're trying to do. For example: Are you trying to make a song that sounds "like" your voice? Are you trying to make a song "using" your voice that you uploaded with the song? Are you trying to upload your vocals to use as a persona? That kind of thing.
thanks đ
@jagged narwhal I'm still not 100% sure what you're trying to do, but if it's "I'm singing something as an upload and I want Suno to add music but leave my singing unchanged", then that's quite tricky.
Your best bet would be to get a Suno cover you like, with the changed voice, then export the instrumental stem as an MP3 and record yourself singing back over it in something like Audacity. Then you can export the final version with Suno music and 100% your voice.
If what you want is Suno to clone your voice based on a small sample of your singing and make whatever new lyrics and so-on that you put in sound like it's you singing, that's beyond the capabilities of the model.
in other words: you can't YOUR VOICE on suno tracks đ
I have updated my phone today morning, currently I'm using the September 1st sec update from Google which is the latest. Also, the Suno AI app is running on the latest version which you specified. It is downloaded from Google Play store as well.
Is there a fix sir? Let me know.
did i miss something? where is the problem??
v5 produces a dialect/voice that i only ever barely got v4.5 to produce (never got v4.5+ to produce the same dialect/voice)
https://suno.com/s/YBmvsCeniS6Fbchi (not a public song yet)
post-screamo
sometimes i don't understand the questions.. is it only me?? đ€
no only you, i see the confusing post above. i think they forgot a word/sentence
phew... good đ
I was lost too
Good morning! any tips on refining a good teck sound? I would like to incorporate a HAL (2001) voice... I've achieved the silky, sinister calm but.. it doenst have the bot feel... just sounds very james bond villian.
Are they vocals that you're writing into the prompt?
I have the same version running on my Android and I do see Download option on my songs.
Have you tried to clear cache on the app setting and relogin and all that...? or try to re-install as that might help as well.
I will update you after trying for sure.
Anyone else having this problem? EVERY cover song I generate lately has this male country-western voice. It is not either of my two saved personas. (posted this question in the general chat, also.)
I make models using RVC locally .. it's not easy to make it smooth unless you can sing - high pitch - low pitch and other singing techniques .. not every song will be compatible you'll have minor cracks
But it's possible using high quality models of vocalists and singers to do that
I tried that since a year and half ago .. headache.
In a couple of years it'll be possible max two to three
Thank you
RVC's are still being developed and they aren't perfect either.
I cannot get vocals even close to what I want... was very happy when screeching, soaring swooping female vocals came under some control... Thanx Dasvon..... but now... its been replaced by breathless babydoll vocals.... deep disticntion...
(v5) Well I knew it was a matter of time before The Voice start sounding like a robot.. v5 sounded good at first but now at the beginning of the song today they sound robotish and like its losing its voice. JS...
hi, anybody understand why we can't extend the song more than around 3mins ?
i try to extend my song which is around 3m and extend from 2:55 (ish)
All of my extension only around 13secs each.. đ
See if you can try to move the extension point back into the existing part a little bit... I found better when I extend at least a few line a head to the part where I want to continue... Sometimes, I had to back up a whole verse. Suno has better idea for the song structure and continue better.
thanks, will try~
F**k V5. It's as close to unusable as it's possible to be without actually having a huge sticker on it which says "UNUSABLE". 90% of iterations are now routinely ruined by the track-jumping bug. Like a delicious looking cake which, on closer inspection, turns out to be a dog-turd.
It got more of those in the last couple of days.
v5 can do some interesting things. made with Pro sub, releasing this one is Apache 2.0 licensed. not public yet though.
post-screamo, breakbeat, math rock
Mostly in Style - in Lyric, [..] are meta tags which might be considered mini-prompts for song sections.
Some also define [..] before lyric for prompts as well.
This is really sick. Nice work.
@stuck junco Same Problem
Odd, I've had more success with 100 hehe
Like you I never got much success with it in lyric tags... so I rarely use it, but others use them extensively and I admit I can't tell if it's actually following the instruction.
I tend to keep it at minimal and enjoy the randomness.
It may be just me, but I feel 99% helps better than 100%, in that its similar to a volume knob. No one ever turns it up to 100%. 100% is more like infinite. Or, if it gives an exact copy then its no improvement over the original.
You may want to try these steps.
- Upload audio.
A. Check lyrics for correctness.
B. Delete styles or keep Sunos automated styles. Your choice. - Extend audio from as near the end as possible.
- Get Whole song (which then is basically your audio upload)
- Remaster the Full Song version.
- Cover the Remaster version. Audio at 99%. Lyrics only. Not styles.
Stytle and weirdness sliders at 50% or 1%.
See what that does for you?
I have had the track jumping issue too. Like the needle on a record jump. Iâm having trouble fixing it too. Ruining some great generators too
I don't have that issue in Style box (yet! lol) but I did run into some track jumping issue lately (last couple of days) .. other than that v5 is nice.
If this were a recording studio, we would be ecstatic that we only need to edit and splice a couple of spots. Of course , its not live so Suno can be fire take after take, but the vibe is still there. Take whats good in what you got and fix the small parts. Now with Studio -- even easier.
Show of hands for anyone whose been a part of AV or a studio that much work had to do with splicing film or tape. đ
Show of hands anyone after year 2000 who started using a DAW and needed to intricately splice tracks by eyesight.
I try to relate to whats positive about these things. đ It keeps the momentum going and finishes the songs quicker.
It would drive me nuts (and burn through too many credits) to keep looking for the magic bullet to male a perfect take, so I dont have to fix the small things.
Well said.
Thankfully Logic Pro makes things a little easier to fix for me these days.
Although I remember the fun days of Cubase in the Atari when all I had for audio was a Casio FZ1. Or the pain of an MC4 before that!
I thought it was cool at 5 years old that I could splice my little reel to reel with cellophane.
Sweet!!!
Yep. If I want scatman bee-bopping at the beginning of each track Iâd have prompted it! đ
I used to be able to use my voice and extend a song get pretty good results on the vocals. Now it wonât even do extended at all. I try it with cover and it doesnât even do the voice. Why does Suno keep making their new versions worse than the previous one. And why should I even continue to pay?
Getting pretty consistent vocals with changing minimal stylistic prompts but the warbling at the beginning of each generation and the âneedle skippingâ is a pain in the ass.
Fidelity increase is the big bonus for me. If Max Mode does what I hope itâll be the holy grail for less post production heavy lifting outside Suno environment
Same here! Not sure if itâs genre specific but itâs certainly a pain. I put âvocal humsâ in negative prompt which can help
Iâm Electroclash, electropop, industrial dance⊠so itâs not confined. Damn.
Iâve got a sort of workaround generating in 4.5+ and then cover into v5. Seems to get round it a bit
Not bad at all. Worth a shot. I tried stem splitting in studio and cutting the offending vox out but itâs hit and miss
Iâve had that happen. I end up splicing other generation vocals back in using external DAW (Logic is my preferred poison)
IDK if this was answered at all but randomly I noticed you have no remaster feature either? it's greyed out, are you on Free? maybe that's why?
I highly disagree with this lmao, I've made 30-40 songs with v5 and they've all come out pretty damn well except one that is a bit static-y and I'm honestly chalking that up to lazy prompting because I just wanted to get something out as it was 1am and I had to be up at 5am for work lmao
yeah there's a reason why a bit above 80% goes into the red, because you're now telling it to Hype prioritize either the audio or the style, if you do both then it tries to fight itself on which one is more important, usually with audio I'll do 50-70 and style (which is your idea and direction) I'll make 60-85, and I always put weirdness between 0-15 and 15 is still high for my liking.
That's quite...something. How far were your parameters cranked to? Try to never set it to 0% or 100%, they tend to break things a lot. Even 99% weird, for example, typically sounds better than 100%
(I am just assuming here that one of the scales caused the issue)
Huh, even more weird
When you exclude something, the pattern is actively searching for that aspect to exclude.
Ironically, if your original prompts very rarely or did not have that aspect, the exclusion will cause that aspect to more frequently.
This is because of the biased pattern search where the AI was seeking out the excluded aspect
E.g. the odds of a guitar in trance song is very low. When you exclude Guitar, the AI will be seeking patterns related to guitars to avoid. However, because the chance is very low, the pattern used for searching for the guitar influences the final patterns used, causing more guitar to appear.
TL;DR: if the you exclude a prompt that normally would not appear, the AI will bring more of that excluded style
that's a weird/difficult one, if you don't touch the scales wouldn't weirdness be set to 50 as default? I would always turn it down to almost 0 personally. it's going crazy with the gender halucinatins, mine did that to me when I did a rap song ONE time, I'm an EDM producer with ableton so I was messing around and was super confused by that behavior. it could also simply be the formatting of [Verse 1, male rapping] and then [Hook, female vocalist]...
in the editor you can just retype out the lyrics and it should try to fix those glitches
As for why it would hum, it depends on the genre. For examples, raps woukd very likely have humming at the start or a yo, yo because of the prevalence present in rap music.
Typically being more specific about the subgenre may help 2wth that since the pool pattern is smaller
@unreal sleet so one thing I really want to suggest is learn song structuring/producing, example: when the song is stripped down to just piano for the female vocals, that is specifically a production "choice" people need to better understand these types of things to build the flow of the song/story they are telling, because then you can prompt exactly what you want it to do.
"i got a song that was perfect but its got some words glitching" is what I was talking about, you can FIX that type of thing in the editor
it doesn't matter if it's typed right or not, it's an AI halucination and you have to accept that and learn to overcome the issue when it happens
yes you should be able to, I and many others have, sometimes it's literally as simple as just retyping out the lyrics within the editor itself and saving or generating again, I haven't done it since before v4.5+ just v4 I think?
How is the start of these?
https://suno.com/s/rw9lEfkBqL3dG9FJ
(Older: https://suno.com/s/vYN38dr8ZgPSiy34)
Unfortunately the other alt tracks did not sound that great (I only focused at the start for these)
Ah yes, forgot to mention that. In addition to the first two lines in the lyrics, I added :
- "At the start, have a plucky synth." To the second sentence of the style prompt
- Excluded "vocals at start"
Hm I think Persona would be the better way to go. Or used to be, unsure about it these days.
Hmm, I would crop the portions you want influenced and do what you mentioned.
Be aware that iirc, inspo only samples 4 songs (random) from the playlist so have a 4-song playlist uniquely to the aspects you want
Good ol' randomness.
The other option is to extend from the portion you want, hm
I haven't made anything new for quite a while (been too busy at work) so not sure what other advice to give as I didn't experiment much with the latest features. Hopefully other people will chime in
It should be influenced by the source, though how much I think how much is random?
The tradeoff is you will have a lower max time for new gens based on these because persona, cover, inspo, etc. reserve a portion of the resources allocated to the song. https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1422252931943501935
Typically a persona made from a short clip tends to take less resources but may reduce the chances to study what you want
Hmm try being more specific about the type of pluck you want? E.g. plucky synth from a Hawaiian House (adding geographical location can influence the outcome a bit)
Though I think it was more effective in 4.0
Hm try being more specific about the style at that portion? Here is an example of leaning into a Hawaiian plucking (or attempted anyways lol, modified the style 2nd sentence)
https://suno.com/s/GsnyOhcAkS1aD6KT
I like using the style hierarchy at https://rateyourmusic.com/genres but there are many out there to reference
Ah
Hm unable to replicate it on my end but I got this rather...unique start
https://suno.com/s/NuyhL3qTQB3eJ2OM
https://suno.com/s/ktzmZrupd3l6hBqz
having issues trying to get a bells sound similar to that used in Hell's Bells or For Whom The Bell Tolls. Instead, the generator keeps giving me small, high-pitched bells that are used frequently. Not what I want. I'm unsure how to get the loud big bells that I want.
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It's moreso for looking for a specific subgenre when you have an idea of what you are looking for (assuming that the LLMs do not give you the correct answer)
I found out about Crime Jazz back in the past because of that
apparently "2,000-Pound Bronze Bell" didn't work in the prompt
"Church Bells" also didn't work
Its a deathknell. Or you could try "funeral bell".
Will try this soon, tysm!
has anyone figured out a quick solution to fix the vocal clicks and pops in the generations?
external software etc
Whether it works, i don't know. But for just prompting, you might need to make some spooky Halloween songs using deathnell so Suno feels the vibe, then make a persona out of the one which you'd then add to whatever epic, metal or concept song you got going.
Just as a close second , those chimey bells as in the Westminster Abby are call Carillons.
anyone know how to improve song duration i mean i have a 4.5+ song 5:39 i cover in v5 i get 2:22 or 2:50 max
I ran it different ways. Nothing so far.
ive noticed the exclusions dont work very well haha. but u can extract stems and remove them if u want
it seems after I posted this everyone is reporting similar issues. I have a bridge that is a different style to verses and choruses and it completley changes it. when I do the bridge as its own generation no problem at all but together with the rest of the song it freaks out. to the @shy yew team it would be great to be able to have some type of implementation where you can set the vocal melody and rhythm with midi and same with the unlelying chord structure it would be awesome to have studio be able to lay a vocal guide and chord guide that is rock solid and the song follows the core with eblishing around these core objects. I'm assuming the model is using the training on specific genrese to determine its production which obviously is breaking down when you do something outside of that genre or style. If you can nail how to handle that I think you will unlock a new level of creativity.
Idk what happened but Suno Android app ate my entire data transfer for whole September in just few days
that moment when you accidentally delete the Embedding URL link in showcase and cannot get your discord embed to come back... feelsbad
Don't know what they're tweaks with the female vocals, but generations from yesterday and today are just crap. All the noise bugs from v4 are back (female voices only). And the voices are being cast across multiple stems (vocal, fx, drums) making impossible to fix. I've emailed links to support.
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Hello, I need to prompt Suno to do the usual "all female voices chant the choir" in a stadium.
Does anyone have experience prompting that?
The lead vocals are a male country voice.
Have you tried extending from where you want the female chant to come in and altering the style prompt to focus on that as well as describing it in the lyrics using [metatags]
This is my prompt:
[Bridge / Many Female voices concert chanting]
but Suno only produces 1 female voice.
It's really starting to piss me off that it is using the same hooks and structures from previous song generations and its become unuseable. I'm gonna try using a completly fresh account to see if I get better results. I think this is a major issue if its the case.
yes, It's like "caching" it's own previous generation. It's like the "seed" it's stuck in the same number. SUNO DEVS, is there a way to have control over the seeds (random number in the system that identifies the variations/generations of a song)?
yeah iâm getting similar songs after multiple generations. Itâs very annoying and itâs just constant wasting credits
this, this, this ^^^^^
If you are getting similar results but not changing the prompts much at all, that may be a characterstic of v5. In some ways it is useful, it means you can tweak and slowly dial-in a prompt to get the sound you want. But it also means if you want a diverse range of outputs, you can't just hit Create over and over, have to change things up. (Easiest way to keep chaning Inspo songs).
Almost makes one think that - like Topaz VideoAI - there could be genre-specific models... 4.5+ gives me great prompt adherence for some things, a struggle for others where v5 seems to 'get it'. So I swap between them when hitting a break wall on something in my cranium.
I've gone back to 4.5+. V5 just gives the most boring results. The vocals trend toward monotony, and there's so much hiss now. I can do 40 versions of a song in v5 without getting anything worth listening to. With 4.5+, I got great compositions on the first try using the same prompt. Sadly I think SUNO did something to it, because sound quality is often worse now than it was before. They really messed up with this release.
try "vocal stacks" or "choir"
I just got a song that began with an applauding audience. That's a first.
Does anyone happen to know which style I should use to get as close as possible to Linkin Park's (Numb, in the End) style? I'd be grateful for any help.
Who knows? Here's what GPT suggests:
Early 2000s nu-metal / alternative rock. Emotional and melodic choruses with soaring vocals, contrasted by rhythmic, rap-influenced verses. Heavy distorted guitars with tight palm-muted riffs, deep bass, and punchy hip-hop-style drum grooves. Atmospheric synths or piano motifs provide texture. Production is polished but aggressive, with layered vocal harmonies in the chorus and a dramatic, anthemic feel.
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How about "deep rumbling bell" or "epic bell"
I agree. I'd rather it be more determenistic. Plus, changing the Weirdness value circumvents the problem anyway
Yeah, 4.5 and 4.5+ seem to understand prompts much better than v5. With v5, it feels like it only really recognizes a handful of genres, so no matter what you ask for, its limited grasp narrows the range of what it can produce. Thatâs why so much of it ends up sounding generic and more or less the same.
Ehh, I find that tuning the advanced options values, along with being very specific in the prompts leads to cool results
I've tried it all by now. I'd say roughly 10% of results v5 has given me were useable. The rest were boring and forgettable.
do you generate the lyrics?
God no
lol then we rule that out
hehehehe
had to check
I imagine that would cause generic outputs as well
I'd get no satisfaction from using SUNO if I didn't use it to put music to my lyrics.
same
Even though it was answer the problem could not be solved. Thanks for your response, yes the 'remaster' feature is greyed out because currently I'm using the free plan. Not going to upgrade to pro until my issue is fixed.
I have a tendency to put "unique" or "quirky" scattered in my prompts, you could give that a shot
I'm very picky though, so regardless of model I only end up with using 10% anyway
@polar spade, I've restarted my device as well as cleared the app catch but nothing worked. The download button isn't visible still.
what browser?
and what device?
Here's the detailed explanation of the issue I'm facing rn sir.
4.5 and 4.5+ give much more varied results. They mix it up. Vocals understand and adapt to lyrics in ways v5 simply can't. I get zero emotion from vocals in v5. And they tend to each sing every verse the same, where v4.5 plays with it a lot more. So basically, v5 - in my opinion - is simply less creative.
https://suno.com/s/1RyzqY6sdGpMjbSy
idk I've gotten pretty good results on the adaption and emotional part
Perhaps you can help sir?
With this.
use desktop mode
The problem is with the Android app..
Ik that, I'm supposed to use the Android app according to my use cases.
That's why.
what use case requires the app instead of mobile browser?
@humble verge I think you'll just need to experiment more with prompts, turn up the style influence a bit, and specify that you actually want emotion, when you want it, and what type of emotion
I only get results by being super specific
The main reason is, I'm gonna buy the pro plan through the app because then I can use my Google Play store credits instead of buying it from the official website that requires giving card or account information and has the feature enabled by default called auto renew.
Then buy the pro plan on the app, and then just login with google on the browser
I don't see the problem lol
Makes sense.
You're not limited to any given browser/device just cause you subscribed on that device <3
Makes sense too. Well, perhaps I should use it like that for now and continue finding a fix. Saving time.
@humble verge what kinda song are you tryin to make? c:
I'm not new at this đ I can mix up my prompts from here to kingdom come, and v5 still wonât give me anything remotely close to what Iâm telling it to do. It ignores prompts far more than 4.5 ever did, simply because its narrow scope means it doesnât really comprehend them.
V5 is great if youâre into common genres like pop, R&B, or rap. But I work in bluesâfolk fusions, I incorporate Balkan and Jewish world music, I write ballads, and I explore southern gothic. Iâve even come close to inventing my own genre with certain fusions between blues and traditional Balkan musicâsounds Iâve never heard anywhere else. V5 just canât come close.
A big issue is vocals, but itâs also the general lack of off-genre comprehension. It takes everything and pushes it in a generic direction. It compresses long songs into three-minute formats, rushing through lyrics instead of letting them linger the way 4.5 does. It doesnât matter how I instruct it in Lyrics or Stylesâthe AI overrides it.
Sound-quality wise, especially the vocals, itâs excellent. But musically, itâs ignorant and lacks imagination.
Despite personas?
What do you mean?
You've made the music you want in 4.5 right?
Yes, I'm making good stuff as we speak.
So does a persona made from the style you want still not influence it in the direction you want?
remastering 4.5 songs with v5 is quite good.
No, personas don't do that unless you create them with music. I use vocal stems to make them, to get pure voice and zero composition influence. Works great.
I just realized I can't even upgrade to pro, as whenever I try to, it just shows the loading screen like this but never loads.
Try restarting your phone
Already did restarting, clearing up app data and cache, reinstalling. Nothing worked.
https://suno.com/account <<- click this link
I need to purchase the pro plan through my google play store credits, so that I need the app to work properly.
ah. And I assume you tried signing out of google and back in?
Just tried that too, didn't work.
It's probably a server issue then. Nothing you can do about that.
do you have the direct email to SUNO support?
Then where's the official support team, I have already mailed them for a commercial discussion.
For a diff topic, yeah.
Good luck.... Love suno but their support is a joke
Totally agree.
I've gotten lots of credits refunded after contacting them, so I'm not as critical. As far as reporting bugs, though, they're useless. You just get some standard reply and I don't get the impression that reports go further than that.
anyone want to challenge this? it help to improve the model i guess
its success
https://suno.com/s/SExthRk6MUGV4Yoe successful case for weirdness 100% style 100% and audio 100%
Whats the base song?
its also a combination of two suno generated song
chaotic song
"Super Warrior"
you need to step by step to exam what is too chaotic and tell the model right way to act and motivate it
Well
It's impressive, that you got something with weirdness 100, but I never tried Audio Influence 100% might be the reason that it works, since it looks like Audio Influence > Weirdness
could be the reason hmmm
but its sound new on the result, creative
It might have an effect Weirdness, but not as strong as you think.
AFAIK if you use a persona, you can put weirdness on 100% and get similiar results
New obvious
Since weirdness is the thing to get out of the base structure song/loops and so on.
i first test it with 100% audio its gave very messy result'
when prompt down to tell what should not and what should, it getting better and better
I see what was the final prompt?
that one in the picture
My one account has been double billed for months and I'm still waiting on it to be resolved months later
I see
are you interested to test and train it without audio 100%?
I tried already, that's the reason I asked you.
hmmm, gave me your lyrics and genre? i try
I have a documentation about suno over 220 sites long, just collecting data, that's the reason I asked you.
i see, can i have your genre and lyrics , i try for you
wait
go ahead
tag me, if you're ready
I might not be online at that time, but if you ping me, I will see it
depends on how much time you need
its succeed!!
originally your prompt
together, we and suno just created history!!!!
IÂŽm confused, what did you do?
Ye but what did you changed?
what do you mean? i didnt change your lyrics
but you changed style box?
Can you just tell me, what you changed? xD
i tell the AI its has a creator and be steady
and a few things that cannot be done when in chaotic mode
Can you share these?
IÂŽm confused, I don't see what you typed in negative prompt (exluded) right?
i do type
messy chaotic destructive chaotic messy at [chorus ***}
and be patiently train it
thank you Jesus Yeah~!
i prayed through it
Don't have to take a closer look, that's the reason I need you to be obvious as clear as possible
negative prompt
thats all?
yeah, cuz that's all the negative effect the AI done
Can you give me the full prompt you typed in excluded?
âmessy chaotic, âdestructive chaotic, âmessy lyrics, âmessy at [Chorus vocal voice [P1âP2âP3]]]
That's all?
If this really works, it would be really nice, since it gives easily varity in any song
Could do a lot with it, if it's really that easy lol
it has a trend, it seemed to succeed only on the number of "6", its regarding gramatia, but you are not israel, you might havent heard of it
number on 6? xD
for example, 3:21 3+2+1 =6 that's the tend i observed, its regarding its length
When I try to recreate what you did, it gets a bit messy
be patient , repeated, and notifying AI what should not do
so you mean I should recreate pieces until it works?
how much credits do you have? xD
i am premier user
you might need to go into suno editor and roll the dice to amend , or you can ask people with DAWs to amend for you
ummm
delete the backing vocals and fx i guess will do
depends on DAWs you have , if your DAWs can convert the lyrics into midi form well yes
midi form with lyrics*
if you are unable to do it, you can DM me
i can try
but now i got tutor classs
you didn;t say that 1st hey haha
hi guys i need some help understanding how to prompt for drumprograming i been trying to get suno to spit out drum like in this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drsgNdfhV0Q but i only get straight 4 to the floor typ drums whatever i do. When i tried to use "Contemporary RnB" in the prompt like i saw in the prompt of the song used in the youtubevideo from Suno introducing Studio, but then suno ignores my "124 bpm" and start outputing 70-90 bpm rnb songs.... please help đ
Zara Larsson - Hot & Sexy (Official Audio)
"Midnight Sun" available at: https://zaralarsson.lnk.to/MidnightSun
Follow Zara Larsson:
http://www.instagram.com/zaralarsson
https://www.facebook.com/ZaraLarssonOfficial
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http://zaralarsson.se
http://www.zaralarssonofficial.com/
(C) 2025 Sommer House, under exclusiv...
your style can rise to 100% i guess, and down the weirdness to safe zone
yeah but what do i call this style of drums.... i been trying to analyse it in sonotelelr getting prompts from othe ais but still get standrad 4 to the floor type straight drums....
Bass drum, kick ,snare , hit hat closed or opened
Crash
Ride
Clap
Those are drums type you can choose
Try get openai to help you write the drums prompt, it doesn't as simple as it was thought
yeah i know the names of individual drums .... but im asking for the name of this style of drum pattern... like if ask for uk- 2step get a drumpattern like that style if ask for pop i get a straight pattern, but his pattern have backbeats and stuff like Hiphop and for exampler reggaton but as soon as i try to combine pop something is just goes straight and booring đ ( hard to explaing im Swedish).
How about you try get openai to design the druma beat frequency, i do that sometimes
Its worked well
ok ill try that thx... my first idea was to find a song and import so i could see the analyse prompt i got from it but that didint help.....hmm im just gonna try to make my own beat in logic and se if ican refine that and use......... thx guys
Your welcome
Any info if v5max is actually coming?
I am a Pro member and it seems that the new version is only producing 1 minute long clips. This is very strange. Is this correct? Anyone else experiencing this?
Every prompt I put it. Extending. New Song. I've been using it for over a year so I'm somewhat experienced.
Did not have this issue with the free version.
Prompt wise .. I have a general question, I don't know if anyone can answer it .. How can a poem written by Edgar Allen Poe, which is now out of copywrite contain copywrited lyrics??
I've had this come up a couple of times, with different poets from the 19th and early 20th century.
Looks like your prompt isn't good
Can you show it to us?
Are you asking us how to tricks the AI to make what you want?
Its cutting off mid-word at the 60 second mark
No I'm kinda asking if anyone know why it's being rejected with a "Contains Copywrited ...." message, when the material in question is out of Copywrite.
how to make it just make the vocals for your instrumentals and not alter the instrumentals
I can understand if the material is current (70 years or less old) the poem in question was written in 1829 so is almost 200 years old.
not possible it looks like it's to near to copywrited stuff. I created a lot of songs and have never seen this before.
Maybe you take to much inspiration of songs of others
I'm using the words of the poem.. nothing extra, no inspiration or based on .. it's just the words that were written .. đ so it would mean parts of the poem (almost 200 years old) are too close to contemporary works. sigh
Yo, looks like thereâs no way around it, sadly.
here
How about Style Prompt?
punk revival, post-hardcore, nu metal, screamo, art rock, post-punk, experimental indie, angry, sad, hardcore, metal, melodic metal, dramatic, dark epic, angst, string orchestra, emo rock, kicks, punk
OK. Quick update: It is showing as 60 seconds in Suno but when I downloaded it was 3m59s
What is this max mode everyone talks about in Reddit... Max mode is not a thing in Suno, at least for now. The issue with v5 (which I have reported via suno's feedback) is that sometimes, the backend chooses v4.5+ even if v5 is selected.
Yep. Total bug. I emailed them but I just wanted to try to solve it here as well. Thanks for your attempted assistance!
How can you tell?
performances of public works are in the filter
the way lyrical rejection works is to avoid copyrighted recreations
not to provide maximum rights
so if someone has performed the work within the last 70 years then it would reject
this ^
maybe it's not a perfect filter, but yeah
That's fine .. it's not clear when it rejects lyrics .. đ now sometimes it is, but the copywrite one isn't to be fair.
yeah
do we not have a known issues section on here or am i overlooking it?
afaik that just gets passed around word of mouth in the server and then the team picks up on it from posts in the bugs and feedback sections
frequently people believe there are problems that stem from their prompting
it's not like you can trust people when chance is involved
seems like the team would benefit so that they (support) wouldnt have so many tickets for known issues
you could put it in one of the suggestions channels, like the web one, ask for a known issues page
Noise and electrical sounds- How can I avoid this? I even re-produced them with tag of "no noise, no electrical sounds." Any suggestions?
I can tell when it's 4.5+ by the exact same characteristics in the songs, plus the fact that when it's 4.5+ and not 5, it doesn't understand the lyrics, it sings them through, but when it's v5 it actually understands them. For example: [spoken] Sing with me! in a live song in v5 results in the audience actually starting to sing the choru.
"humanoid voice"
never use "no"
if it's no it belongs in the avoid prompt with no qualifier "no", if it's in the positive prompt "no" barely means anything
Max Mode is a mooted upcoming feature that for more credits gives you more server resources for your generation, allowing for potentially much deeper, commercial ready fidelity.
Because the backend filters for the text of any public work and it's not an interactive interface, you can't direct the platform to understand that the text is within the public domain. However, you can get around this by using phonetic variants of words, and breaking multisyllable words into fragments by using a dash between them. Obviously this raises the issue of copyright ownership if you've recreated a song under copyright and attempt to publish it for the purposes of earning income.
mooted is a fun word in this context is that jargon or something you thought to say
Here you go
I'm assuming this is being rolled out slowly as that option is not in my interface.
not in mine either
i was just curious about the use of mooted, like made moot. i thought it was a playful way to put it
Itâs not live yet but I hope so soon!
A lot of this depends on the style and genre information you provide. Genres the EDM can't be guided away from the core features of an EDM track. You can try and generate an instrumental track that captures the essence of what you're trying to accomplish and then use the 'add lyrics' functionality to put your lyrics on top of the existing instrumental track.
hi there, I was reading above and noticed someone is putting style information into the lyrics section. Does this help? I've been adding a bit of direction via: [Chorus - sung], [Verse - growled+screamed], but I've been putting genre: X, Style: X, Mood: X, and the like within the style guide. Does adding style information into the lyric section help at all?
Also, I don't see Max Mode either.
That is weird. I've had issues where it only makes 1-2 minute things (didn't try and download), but I found the putting "5 minutes of:" at the top of my style information will help it make the clip longer, in the preview at least. Again, didn't try and download the short clips.
Adding metatagged information into the lyrics is considered a best-practice and is particularly useful in V5, especially when used in conjunction with a style section description that correlates.
neat! Thanks!
Yes... so I think it still has me in v5 'preview mode'.
v5 doesnt fill just to fill like previous models did
so if it feels like 2 minutes of content it's a 2 minute gen
yeah. that's not the issue. its downloading as a 4 minute clip and only appearing as a 1 minute clip in the web version.
thank you for this
Max Mode was not a feature of earlier versions.
I donât recall seeing ver having this feature available before as if it was I certainly would have used it as it sounds exactly what I need regarding fidelity
It probably picked up speculation from places like Reddit đ
Why max time for v5 generations is not shared?
should also be 8?
getting some very unorthodox outputs by adding a hidden Track number to the start of a song. may be nothing, may not even be in the dataset. and interesting
Song lyrics
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What do you have on Audio Influence slider?
Put it around 85% or so might help.
I think I've done some wrong?
It's completely broken, go to your Google chrome and do a basic cover, you can't cover anymore. It's possibly a bug.
I was trying to cover a song but I couldn't create anymore
create in general won't work for me anyore
dang, who broke Suno
its either working now, or clearing cache helps
That worked for simple, but I can't type in custom anymore
I'm trying to email them or something
This is going to sound patethic but this is getting me anxious
Custom cover is bugged. It's just creating new songs instead of cover now. I'm quite pissed off tbh.
I guess a lot of user in general chat don't use cover option đ€·
i'll try the cover function.. let's see what is happening đ
If it's not that, my keyboard doesn't seem to work on it
I tried going into other browsers but it's the same
well... cover function does covers for me đ
Wait, my bad, realise that this falls more under the suggestions and feedback category
It covers, but it's not covering the song, it's actually recreating a new song.
not for me đ
well.. of course it's a little bit different.. but it's not a complete new song
I do see there's a black box that's there
mispell words using phoenetics move = moove/muve... ? I've seen recommendations for this when alluding to artists
I can see it, but it's blocking something
Does this apply when using the exact lyrics of the original you were converting?
Their definition of a cover is to use. The same lyrics and arrangement. Melody, tempo, genre can all vary. But as VRKing mention, keeping the Audio slider high is typical the best means to get a cover close to the same melody as well.
Is anyone else getting "an error occured while generating the clip" when trying to extend a song?
I've had this error for like a week straight on multiple browsers
Look at the photo I just posted
it's not just creating... everything is all out of whack. Been trying to contact support since 1 this morning. All the subscriptions are messed up. Can't do anything
Okay, it gave me a song, after I reloaded my page!
That was terrible to go through
Instead of covering, you see it makes a completely new song, even if I'm covering from the same song as you can see in the arrow
for me it works
It's broken atm it seems for people using web browser on mobile
just clicked it đ
i clicked create on pc browser nothing happening
i am on Mircosoft Edge and all works fine (in germany)
I think audio resemblance
For normal Create - you only have 2
ohm.. no.. you are in the creation mode
Your screen doesn't look like a Cover
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hmmm... what's that browser?
Google chrome
for me it the layout looks like the app but in browser.. if i open up suno in my google chrome it looks very different
but that doesn't explain the different design for me đ ...hmm...
@half dragon : are you using Suno Studio??
literally offline
Yes I started using when they released
if i have an electronic dance track... is it possible to add an typical mixable dj intro with studio via the "add instrument" section om the beginning?? do you know that?
I would think so. You could add an empty track on the timeline and generate the instrument for that section.
ahh.. interesting idea...
i don't wanna ruin the good sounding output with cover versions till i got an intro đ
not wrong
well.. i can also create the intro with FL Studio but.. i will try your idea đ
ok... this option (with my workflow) doesn't work well... but hey.. FL Studio and VST Plugins and Drums Samples will fix that đ
GOT IT with cover function... style was "Figet House with a 32 bar dj intro (claps and percussion only)" only.. worked well.. now it's time to cut it in a DAW đ
Hi, I need some help. The platform isnât generating any songs for me at all. Iâve already tried different browsers and devices, but nothing works. It feels like my account might be blocked. Who can I contact to get this resolved?
My username is: @miguelangelrosasocampo
Thanks a lot!
you are not the first one today.. maybe suno has some country specific issues...
V5 keeps starting with "LIVE" sounding concert vibes, I DO NOT LIKE IT! I've done negative prompting both in the song [Studio Recording] and also prompted under the 'Style' tab and placed it as an 'Exclude' style, yet it still does it. Does anyone know how to solve this or am I relegated to using V4.5?
V5 is such a mess. Literally 4.5+ does so much better extends most of the time. V5 regardless how you change the sliders is all over the place.
still at a loss of words as to whom at Suno gave the approval to release v5 as is
same prob
i think all the "problems" in here are depending on music styles... i heard this "LIVE" problem the first time... and i never got his problem by myself..
what kind of music are you talking about?
EVERY song of min has stupid harmonizing intro
u are talking about "ohhh ohh ohh" ?? đ
YES đ
i know that problem đ
and ive yet to have a successful remix cover
electro-pop, rap, electro hip hop, trap - same issue
Synth-pop and synth-rock
yapp... let's call it the "synth prompt problem"... 4.5+ was only screaming vocals... every model has his own character
AND
If I use a Persona then there's no issues, however, when I don't I always get the "live" music
every song sounds the same,... like the AI "seed" needs to reset/cached reset/etc
Soapy đ ... do you have a link for me ?? i want to understand the "live problem"
it takes my personas and covers and makes a garbage disposal remix
What the....
you have crowd multiple times in the style
Exactly
maybe it's the word "cheerful" in you prompt.. and of couse "crowd-chant-chorus"
i think "crowd" is the the problem
I'll remove it and try again, thanks.
try it and give us a feedback... by the way.. nice one đ
I will, thanks đ
may i be nosey and give it a listen @acoustic estuary
I removed it because I don't want my stuff listened to until it's fully baked and ready for the world to taste.
same here.. 8.3k generations... but if it's good it will be on spotify, deezer and other plattforms đ
i gotcha, nw
8.3k and no public one.. that's what i wanna say đ
yeah i keep my suno prfile private lol
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ill put my spotify artist profile in my bio tho
i am curious if the "no crowd" prompt will work for soapy đ
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Does anyone here know how i can do that? Is it even possible? My problem is that Suno ALWAYS change the bpm and add some weird shi on my beat even tho i put audio influence at 100, what can i do plss?
ok.. i am confused at this point
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btw: nice graphic đ ....i think you should tell us your "problem" with own words... maybe i don't get it and other people do...
okay basically I want to put my OWN beat on suno so that the AI ââsings, and finds interesting singing ideas on my beat, to then be able to go over it etc... basically just for it to find reference ideas, NOT for it to change the beat, because that means it's no longer in rhythm with the beat that I make otherwise...
u can
that was just for fun lmao BUT FR i dont know how to do that
i dont want to record audio at first, bc i suck at singing, i want a ai to do it for me lmao
i want suno to do a reference tracks
one sec sorry driving
still don't get it... what do you want??? you have a selfmade beat you wanna use?? you have self siinging lyrics you wanna use??
yes and i dont want suno to overwrite my beat with a beat he made himself, JUST SING LYRICSS đ
like, he do too much
trying to get a single simple vocal but I keep getting harmonies lots of extra vocals. Any ideas how to force simple living living room unplugged style vocal - one singer...
@naive sphinx : Suno is a music generation AI.. uploads will not used 1 to 1 .... in other words: you can use an upload of your own voice with a harmonry... suno is creating an instrument out of it... the only thing you can try is to upload the audio and use the extend function
to all other people in here: correct me if i am wrong đ
so it's not possible? he will always change my beat if i upload it in "audio" and the "add lyrics".. đ„
the upload is an interpretation of the sound...
there is a very interesting video about it on youtube.. but i can't find it
i feel like it's not as hard for it to create lyrics over a already made beats, i mean thats what he do but create beats too lmao, so thats sad there is not a options for that, i thinks it will help producers and musicians a lot
If you can access Studio, maybe try to open that beat in Studio, then generate vocal for it - I haven't tried it but in theory it should work
this is crystal clear and possible on studio
lol i just wanted to mention the image is gold
the image is lit đ
i'm worried about the dc offset in that waveform
there's like a whole portion with the tops gone
unnatural frequencies
hahahaha
that no saw or square lead synth đ
@acoustic estuary : and??? does it work???
I have company over and we're working on another project, I'll get back to you shortly though.
no prob mate
but i dont have access of studio, and if its not possible, its money for nothings bc i want it for that and only that. i got pro tho
ok.. it's 11pm.. time to go to bed đ have a nice evening....
thx lmaoo i should have done better
gn !!
If you're still around, it worked! Thanks.
i get nothing when hitting create :I
Same here on all accs
is the Suno promo the extra discount on yearly commitment still going on, please can anyone tell me how to achieve this from within the android app, it seems a necessaty , but can,t find any button or field that supports this methodology Please someone can help ?
should be till october 5
Clearing cookies for the last 24 hrs helped me
thank you, i assumed the 2nd of october , fact is i can't engage from desktop the subscription commitment. I am asked to do this from within the android app , that's because how i made my ongoing monthly subsciption wich was on an android device. Any way on the android app there is no possibilty to find to do so. Except for regular subscriptions thus the normal pricing let's say, but as i like to change from my ongoing monthly subsubscription to the yearly wich includes the promo i am stuck. Perhaps it does not apply to already subscribed users even if it's on a monthly base. Can't find any pointer saying this, i just assume this, it might be a reason of absence of a visible 'promo subscribe button' in the android app.
Could someone at Suno please add an option to disable autoplay?
Right now, after I play any of my own tracks or playlists, the player automatically queues up something else â and almost always the same track:
"The GAZE, pt. II | GameIsHere x LJ."
With over 2 million plays, itâs hard not to wonder how many of those are just autoplay padding. That doesnât feel like genuine popularity â more like an algorithmic glitch.
And when the same track starts playing again and again after your song â like a broken record â it quickly becomes annoying. After hearing it a **hundred times, **it really starts to wear you down.
Iâve tried reaching out, but the âFeedbackâ section feels like a black hole. Please give users more control over playback â specifically, the option to turn off autoplay of third-party content. If Iâm listening to my own playlist, it should end when the playlist ends â not force me to listen to the same track over and over.
This small change would make a huge improvement to the user experience.
@stuck junco @steady kelp
I'm so tired of reviewing generations in my own library or workspace, only to have the player start playing a track from some random user. Just STOP playing.
Suno doesnt have a timestamp feature anywhere that I might have missed? Like where vocals starts and so on.
Can this kind of music be created with suno? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZSfotB_qgQ
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i've tried this
but it creates a more intense rythm and beats i dont want: https://suno.com/s/If8tQbvsbZRxhcKi
using V5 here
try legato, arhythmic, free meter and drums, percussion in the negative. your prompt positively defines what appears but does not preclude rhythm or drive
still there's a part where everything explodes and i don't want that, i want a continuous calm vibe, https://suno.com/s/kBIjYhXIV0gj943g
https://suno.com/s/gR7wIdysPczrOj6r same here, it tends to explode at the end
https://suno.com/s/p3XPke6J8lyQGbui and here, around 2:10 starts to build up momentum
music tends to do that, instead of making more whole generations extend before it explodes
v5 really doesnt want to let there be male intros does it lol đ
can i extend it to be +8 minutes?
sure, yeah, though it does mean you can't export its entirity from studio, and at 16 minutes you lose the ability to remaster
because if the maximun lenght is 8 minutes, it will always explode somewhere within those 8 minutes
but those are the only limitations
hmm okay
so the negative prompt is in advanced features
you seem to have put drums and percussion in the normal prompt
this second one gets rhythmic but softly so
ghost jazz and silent jazz can quiet things down a lot too but with a little lo fi beat
The Studio Feedback channel has two easily missed channels for general Studio discussion: Studio Chat and Studio Workflows: https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1420792719969878028
When you finally decode Suno dialect and itâs just LUHHHV MEEEEE on repeat like a sacred scripture.
I mistakenly SENT a song to RADIO, and the only option I see is "EDIT / PUBLISH". How do I "UNLIST" my song? (I don't wanna publish it)