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worn flicker
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Lol

hybrid silo
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my question was why isnt it though lol

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why only app and not on web

worn flicker
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Oh I don't know I have never seen it.

naive quail
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This'll burn thru credits fast, but I'd cut out all of the lyrics except for the first few lines. If that doesn't render, then the problem is somewhere in those few lines. If it DOES render, paste in a few more lines and do another render. Keep doing that until it hangs again. Once it hangs, you'll have a better idea of where the problem is. That's how I found that "it's me again" is a protected phrase.

polar spade
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Just says "inappropriate" I never know what that entails. Lol

hybrid silo
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lol obviously

worn flicker
hybrid silo
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i was asking @charred merlin though

worn flicker
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I was asking for myself

hybrid silo
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and did you get an answer lol

worn flicker
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I want to help train the model

hybrid silo
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i mean, we all do haha

solemn lintel
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I don't see it on the app, just in my desktop browser.

worn flicker
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I just asked the question. Sorry I shouldn't have fed off yours

hybrid silo
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yeah i asked it here. Maybe you missed?

worn flicker
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Yup. Mobile and quick, didn't scroll up sorry. I saw the gist and jumped in

hybrid silo
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most people are im sure on the web, it would make sense to put it on the web version to help train

worn flicker
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I have used the desktop site a couple times and it is so much better...lol. which is understandable considering how many layers of stuff goes on the interface

hybrid silo
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in fact it used to be on the web, and if im not mistaken you used to get credits back if the quality of what you asked for was bad

worn flicker
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Hmm...if that is true then I feel very very dumb

stone lotus
# hybrid silo in fact it used to be on the web, and if im not mistaken you used to get credits...

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worn flicker
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The dude that brought back the item because he didn't read the instructions

hybrid silo
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i dont need this

stone lotus
hybrid silo
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lol

stone lotus
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you were talking about bad sound quality

hybrid silo
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you took something out of context

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bud

unique stone
hybrid silo
stone lotus
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they should charge credits only when we finalize or accept the result 🤣

worn flicker
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I wasn't around until v3 so I am useless in this part

hybrid silo
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but realistically, if you wrote a description and it gave you something completely different, why should you get charged for it?

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you should be able to report that and get 1 credit refunded

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it only helps the machine learning to do that

stone lotus
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lets voice this matter

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apes together strong

hybrid silo
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obviously the pro plan offers plenty of credits but thats beside the point

stone lotus
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everyone lets demand refund

hybrid silo
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but thats why im asking about the "report bad song quality" option on the APP and not the web

unique stone
worn flicker
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I can not due to the nature of AI. It does what it does and we pump out songs in seconds. No way I can demand a refund from having to cherry pick

hybrid silo
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its not about refunding really

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its just about teaching the machine

worn flicker
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Yes I missed the reply...lol...didn't mean you..,sorry again

hybrid silo
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lol smh

worn flicker
hybrid silo
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yeah, i dunno what that person is talkin about lol

charred merlin
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I'm just getting back to the computer, so this might have been covered already but if you are including the name "korn" or the name of any of their songs in your prompt, that could be why it's refusing to generate.
Missed that Toker caught that one 🤘

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Today I Learned...

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You can report them the same on Desktop through ... > Report > Bug > Poor Audio Quality / Doesn't Follow Style / Doesn't Follow Lyrics

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You MIGHT be able to put your phone into landscape mode & request the desktop version, but the UX is absolutely designed for the desktop experience.

hybrid silo
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thanks

charred merlin
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I just tried deleting an upload from the app & it disappeared on desktop, but I also didn't have Suno up on the desktop, so maybe if you still had the page up, it would keep a version cached for a bit? 🤷‍♂️

hybrid silo
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So, if you delete on the web, it doesnt delete on the app

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didnt try otherway around though

naive quail
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may need to refresh on the other client

charred merlin
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Isn't that the truth -- the fact that so many metal vocalists provided solo work on it blows my mind -- and THEY'RE SO GOOD

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@worn flicker, credit where credit is due, Forsaken is a killer track.

charred merlin
# stone lotus they should charge credits only when we finalize or accept the result 🤣

That would be a SUPER user-forward thing to do, except the computers are still working just as hard whether we like the output or not :/

Instead of it being always on like a lightbulb, whenever we generate a song with Suno it causes a surge of processing power -- THAT'S what you're paying Suno for, the server processing power.

If we could generate songs for free until we felt satisfied, competitors could generate millions of songs without ever "liking" them to drain resources from legitimate users -- the first thing to go in an attempt to fix this would be allowing free access to the site. 😦

If you're not satisfied with the output you're receiving from Suno, try asking for help here in tech-chat 🎯 and we can try to figure out how you can be just as satisfied with your songs as we are with ours 💪

graceful condor
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Hello!

valid mango
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why covers aint working for me?

graceful condor
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In anticipation of V4 I am considering buying some mid range headphones, for not more than $100, what do you all recommend?

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I want my covers to sound gooooooood

valid mango
graceful condor
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But I'm also not independently wealthy enough for a $700 set of Bose

graceful condor
# valid mango sennheiser

Thanks I will look into those. Edit: The ones I saw were like $250 but maybe I can get a Black Friday coupon code. I would love AirPods max but toooo expensive.

valid mango
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or get beyerdynamic's

graceful condor
charred merlin
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Okay -- first you need a couple subwoofers -- then you find some duct tape...

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graceful condor
naive quail
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those were my first "higher-end" headphones. Shelved now, but not forgotten 😄

charred merlin
# valid mango why covers aint working for me?

When you say "not working", do you mean it's either returning the same song perhaps with a change in pitch or tempo, or a song that sounds somewhat related but nothing similar to the source?

valid mango
charred merlin
valid mango
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well, its me singing so idk if its that

valid mango
charred merlin
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I don't think the source being a vocal track should cause any issues (it doesn't) -- worst case you might need to email support@suno.com with the song link for your upload so they can look into what might be causing an issue.

knotty harness
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I have done a lot of stupid songs in finnish and no moderation there

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is there something going on with Suno because I get a lot of "system errors" now

charred merlin
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I think that the vocal detection MIGHT have gotten better, and it might be picking up on "stupid songs" 😅

knotty harness
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haha! Maybe

charred merlin
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There's still areas that area oversensitive, for sure, and I'd imagine that as long as the songs don't violate ToS / Moderation page I linked above, it should be okay to rephrase some sections phonetically (if I ate my own arm was flagged for being too violent, but it was about what I would do if I woke up as a gingerbread man, and is arguably "innocent", saying I eight my own arm to bypass the automod flagging it seems like an acceptable grey area 💪 )

rose jasper
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Style of Music has gone up to 200 instead of 120?

glad badger
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i still have 120 😦

rose jasper
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It just happened for me, suddenly? wtf

glad badger
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(gasp)

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can't refresh in the middle of a cover dangit lol

rose jasper
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A, An error has occured hahahha

glad badger
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hahaha

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boooo

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you were so close to being the chosen one

rose jasper
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LEt me try it out... it still says 200 poi_think

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Nope! Doesn't work hahha, that's funny, what a funny bug

glad badger
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well, i think mine struggles even with 120

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maybe you got a peek under the dress of V4

rose jasper
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In the Lyrics section

glad badger
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wat

rose jasper
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mhm!

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🙂

glad badger
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does the lyrics section hold the same weight promt-wise?

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prompt*

rose jasper
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I just use Style of Music as an initial template, and then I add more meta tags into Lyrics to enrich it

glad badger
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errr

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mah

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gerd

rose jasper
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Just add them at the start of the lyrics like this, just as an example:

[Clear Audio] [Clear Vocals] [EQ Mixed] [Lo-Fi Drums] [Panning Audio Left & Right] [Reverberation] [Angelic Flow] [Calming Flow] [Soft spoken lyrics] [Melodic Lead] [Smooth Vocals] [Intro with calm tones] [Indie] [Whimsical] [Soft Voice] [Cute Voice]

glad badger
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🤯

rose jasper
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I'm shocked this is not common knowledge

glad badger
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oh it probably is

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when i find something that works, i tend not to stray lol

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but now I'll definitely be giving that a whirl

rose jasper
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Are you also using Interlude?

glad badger
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yeah, THAT i have down at least lol

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bridge, interlude, blah blah

verbal mortar
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anyone else getting an issue where Suno won't make a song over 2min? this is the 10th time in a row noqw

glad badger
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trying to dictate male and female duets now and it's a little resistant

naive quail
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hah. We can't have "Dog" as a style K_grin

glad badger
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that's the only one I've seen hardcapped at 2

naive quail
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v3 only does 2 min renders, too

glad badger
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also check the cover thingie at the top

verbal mortar
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main songs go 1:45 tops...extends are giving me anywhere from 10 to 30 seconds tops.

verbal mortar
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this is just today for some reason, last night all 4 min songs

jade mist
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What's the max clip lenght for V4?

naive quail
verbal mortar
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yes

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I am only on v3.5

charred merlin
naive quail
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Sounds like a bug if you're not extending or doing covers. May want to report it to the bugs channel

rose jasper
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Just using Persona, and all of a sudden, it popped up

verbal mortar
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Maybe I got lucky on over 4min then?

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charred merlin
glad badger
verbal mortar
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yah, its happened at least a dozen times

glad badger
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we are on the verge of a new day my frands

verbal mortar
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and its a whole song not just noise and stuff.

glad badger
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that's gotta be V4 bleeding thru the background

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that with the 200 style char

charred merlin
verbal mortar
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HAHAHAHAH what the

charred merlin
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legit though, if you got a 7m44s generation without "Get Whole Song", that's wild 👀

worn flicker
verbal mortar
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yes it's 100% legit and it was a normal render. not something I asked it to extend or make a full song. I was shocked and happy

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when it's happened in the past, its been like 4:40 or 5:01 but that's the first one I have over 5 min

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and last

glad badger
charred merlin
glad badger
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the chosen one

charred merlin
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It's like when I found out that you can get hybrid segments of oranges & potentially grow a whole new species of orange -- like, you could be the person who cultivates and popularizes the "cotton candy orange" or something, but most people just shrug it off and eat the segment without a thought.

You ended up with Cotton Candy Suno growing in your backyard and don't understand why us cityfolk are making such a big deal about it --"oh yeah, we've been generating 4m30 songs since I was knee high to a grasshoppper out 'round these parts"

verbal mortar
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HAHAHAH probably a bug. I mean today I'm getting a whopping 2 min on all my songs. or less time. so maybe its like "hey you owe us"

worn flicker
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I've had many stop at 4, none have ever broken 4 without extending. That is crazy

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Like taxes...lol we gonna get ours...

verbal mortar
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I assumed it was normal if i'm honest.

charred merlin
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My colloquialism stands -- "5m songs catching you off guard? My pappy swears he used to generate entire albums at once, him and his band, god bless his heart -- losing his marbles in his old age"

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Please invite me to live on your Suno farm.

verbal mortar
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god I remember those days, we'd sit in our jam room smoke a bowl and write a song in like 20 min. I did that for all my Pimp X stuff back in the day, i'd sit my home studio (office) smoke and make a full album in one sitting.

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now that i'm sober, takes hours...days. LOL

rose jasper
verbal mortar
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what are "scenes"? I just noticed this on the web app

worn flicker
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Lol

verbal mortar
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wait..do I wish? how much they get paid?

worn flicker
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With how much time we spend on it, does it matter? To get paid to do what we pay to do would be amazing...lol

worn flicker
verbal mortar
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hmmm maybe. i got 5 kids to feed (Total recall quote, i actually have no kids and love it)

worn flicker
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It's funny you mention kids because of mine, I'd have to make sure everything was all good and go hide to put both ear pieces in. Maybe it has been panning and I'm just in a mono world...

verbal mortar
worn flicker
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Some of those I have used and they work just fine, I just want to hear control over stereo sound.

rose jasper
worn flicker
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Oh I use tags, tons, too many...haha

glad badger
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are there any prompts to unbury the sung lyrics from the music? the balances are touch and go

rose jasper
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Example for a song I'm working on now:

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rose jasper
glad badger
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i love you man

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thanks

verbal mortar
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i thought Suno went nutso if you put too much in the song lyrics area?

rose jasper
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It's kind of my trademark at this time, I tend to focus on getting more clarity

rose jasper
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Basically, alt-rock, emo, indie <- These are my genres that I work with

glad badger
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looks like story time lol

rose jasper
glad badger
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brava

rose jasper
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Poet, Lyricist

worn flicker
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That many tags would just confuse me...lol. I wouldn't even know what was working and what wasn't.

glad badger
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wonder what an instrumental of that would sound like

rose jasper
rose jasper
worn flicker
glad badger
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it's like i've never done this before... i've learned more here in the last hour than i have the past few months 👶

rose jasper
worn flicker
glad badger
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i've seen some folks try dashes? does that work?

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like --___-

worn flicker
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[Intro]
&&###, &&###,
##&&&, ###&&

[Verse]
.....

glad badger
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like old midi style stuff

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ooookay

glad badger
worn flicker
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It makes Suno infer that you want something there

glad badger
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because i asked earlier this morning if hashtags did anything and someone said they were for older versions

worn flicker
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Since it isn't lyrics then it infers you want instruments

glad badger
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then got into a discussion how hashtags don't work in discord

worn flicker
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Most of the time

glad badger
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right on

frosty cypress
worn flicker
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Yup

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Structure alone

glad badger
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other than just generating a bunch of blank instrumentals to extend from

worn flicker
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I did get either by luck or it actually worked, I got it to actually follow a key pattern. I think it was like a one time thing.

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Chord progression

glad badger
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cool

worn flicker
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I think it was luck

glad badger
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i tried, but not a clue how to make the one that goes above

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never worked for me lol

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so i blushed, giggled, and scampered off to do it without anything

worn flicker
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Lol. It was actually yesterday. I was trying to get the rocking motion of the opera house theme from Battlestar Galactica. So amazing.

glad badger
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lol

worn flicker
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[Intro]

Slow, pulsing B minor riff to establish a haunting, deliberate pace.

[Verse 1] [Steady Rhythm]
Bm /// G // D / F# [Violin & Cello Syncopation]
glad badger
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so it does recognize actual written tunes and such?

worn flicker
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Those have [...] around them

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It got clipped on the copy paste

glad badger
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very cool

worn flicker
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Ehhhh..as I said luck

glad badger
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did it do what you were looking for?

worn flicker
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It worked but I also did like 20 iterations

verbal mortar
worn flicker
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That is why I say go for it. You aren't making something that is going to make or break you, so go nuts try everything

glad badger
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i've been on a weird goth industrial kick lately with an 80's coldwave flavor

naive vigil
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Suno is broken for covers. Normal songs work fine just not covers

glad badger
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defintitely scratching some itches

worn flicker
glad badger
naive quail
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Still workin' here, even with a refresh

naive vigil
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It says that the clip is stuck

frosty cypress
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Every cover i try right now just gives the exact same results as the base, so, holding off on covers for a bit

worn flicker
naive vigil
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To where

timid mountain
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Wait, Suno is working for you all? Like right now? Im getting errors anytime I try to generate anything.

worn flicker
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Long conversation already happened about new safety implementation stuff

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Even on songs that went through before

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It wasn't my conversation, I just saw it happen

glad badger
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which is weird, because I'm pushing the edges of a BDSM song right now

worn flicker
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Lol

verbal mortar
naive vigil
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It doesn't make any sense, as I only used my voice and sang about sunshine lol

south gorge
verbal mortar
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AND...all the songs sound the same and are lame.

rose jasper
worn flicker
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Now that could be why. Vocals

timid mountain
worn flicker
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I don't know enough, this is new to me and I think everyone, that's why I refer to the conversation above between non normal users

south gorge
naive quail
frosty cypress
timid mountain
worn flicker
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Someone had said something about v4 prep leaking through. No idea on the reality of it

south gorge
verbal mortar
glad badger
glad badger
verbal mortar
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but if they did option 1, we'd have all of V4

worn flicker
ashen badge
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Is Suno down right now? It always tells me "An error occured" when I try to create. I did delete my chache and tried another browser, but still error.

frosty cypress
worn flicker
glad badger
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i need better friends

naive vigil
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Tbh I wish the devs of this mess called suno would just try their bs on a development server and not on a production

verbal mortar
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hmm that's a bug. they probably were not even aware of it. someone said they pinged them about it.

naive quail
worn flicker
verbal mortar
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OMG I just got a song over 2 min...it MUST be xmas

glad badger
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i knew you could do it

hasty crest
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i got this

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timid mountain
worn flicker
hasty crest
worn flicker
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Oh then maybe I am looking at it wrong what are we seeing?

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3.5 is 3000

eager slate
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Personas not working for me

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worn flicker
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I'm gonna sneak away now. Everyone with errors, there is a long conversation above that may help explain things

naive quail
glad badger
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do caps or asterisks around specific lyrics help for emphasis?

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or nah

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parentheses definitely affect them

naive quail
glad badger
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okay, yeah that's been my experience as well

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depends heavily on the flow of the song

naive quail
glad badger
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"Enraged Kittens" 😂 🤣

naive quail
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fear them!!

glad badger
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that song is amazing all in itself

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i like the evil voices test too... how dependent was that on the persona?

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wait... am i using the right channel for this kinda thing?

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i don't want to be spamming stuff in a tech channel if it's meant for like... tech stuff and not a ctach all

naive quail
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That didn't use a persona - I did make one FROM it, tho.

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I think it's fine when there's not much else happening. Just don't wanna derail any existing conversations

glad badger
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right on

naive quail
placid spindle
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Hi Sunos!! Question: Is there a way to show Suno a style of music? Like can I give it an example and then prompt what I want based on that style / exmaple?

frosty cypress
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Well, their is a guy on here working on an app that you give title and artist too and it will give you prompts for it, its not public yet though.

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@robust dome

placid spindle
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There is a mood, beat, plus, vide of an ambient track, but I want to of course change the key, strings, etc

naive quail
placid spindle
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No vocals - just ambient music

glad badger
naive quail
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try uploading it and doing a cover

placid spindle
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OK not familiar with that. Cover? and thank you for your help

naive quail
placid spindle
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looking

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OH so do I have to make a track first? Or can I upload the track? I see the three dots on tracks I have made. Looks like I have to have a SUB. Its not avail for free users.

glad badger
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If you upload the track, you can then cover it

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not entirely sure if that's a sub-only thing though... i'm subbed

placid spindle
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OK thanks. I think it is.

charred merlin
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If you're receiving this when making a song, check that you're using 120 characters or fewer for your style of music prompt, and 1250 or fewer in the lyrics box if you're using v3 -- devs have been made aware and a change should be pushed shortly 🙏

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hollow hare
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I wish I could pin this

rose jasper
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Did we make a post about this on bugs?

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A lot of people won't read or understand, and even new users will come in and see the new limit at 200

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And get the error

charred merlin
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Those channels haven't been touched in over 3 months 😅

rose jasper
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Damn, oh well, let's hope our mods can help then

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Ali is quite active, maybe he'll see it

worn flicker
glad badger
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but they work best if they match the flow of the song

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I'm gonna have to abandon this song until V4 comes in methinks

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it's too complicated and it's chewing up my credits something fierce lol

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cover/extend/cover/extend...

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all good though, i wanna play around with some of the stuff i learned today

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i ahve a song called Whip Crack that I wanna see if i can actually get a... whip crack in lol

frosty cypress
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Caps is great for metal!

glad badger
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I'm gonna clean up so many songs when V4 drops lol

rose jasper
glad badger
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i'll throw a paycheck at it, I'm so excited lol

verbal mortar
glad badger
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i've found that covering songs and not changing a thing tend to help clean them up

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but there's also another feature coming i belive that lets us remaster existing songs

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PLUS, i think the lengths of time are going to be increased for soem features, so that should help with the samples it pulls from

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all speculation on my part, jsut what I've inferred from pieces i've seen in discord

rose jasper
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See Cover as v3.6

glad badger
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lol

rose jasper
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So I'm excited too see how Cover will work on v4

glad badger
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yeah, it was a godsend

rose jasper
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4:00 - V3.5
3:20 - Persona
2:00 - Extend

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Keep these timeframes in mind

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That's the maximum it will be using

glad badger
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in V4?

rose jasper
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I don't know v4 yet

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That's all with 3.5

glad badger
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ah, yeah

frosty cypress
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I don't expect a time increase in v4, 4 minutes is plenty, maybe at some point 5 minutes, but time requires hardware not training of the ai

glad badger
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I'm mostly wanting increased samples for the others

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extensions tend to change the voice too much for me by the time i reach the end

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start off with Johnny Cash and end up with Zak Wylde

rose jasper
frosty cypress
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mmmm.. wendy's nuggies 😉

glad badger
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if i have a cover of 4-5 minutes that cleaned up the song, it should strengthen the extensions from it right? since it has more of a sample to draw consistency from?

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then again, perhaps the remastering part will take care of that

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regardless, the melodies are amazing from the samples they posted

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so even if i completely remake the song, I'll be fat dumb and happy

rose jasper
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This is a pain for sure

glad badger
rose jasper
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That's why, I only make extend not longer than 1 minute

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So to prevent the "Hallucination" from occuring

glad badger
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makes sense

rose jasper
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Or just a instrumental addition

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Extend - Use Persona
Would fix this, of course

glad badger
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yeahhhh

frosty cypress
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they also need a blend, take 2 tracks, blend the end of one with the start of another, or blend a segment of one into the middle of another

glad badger
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i'd also LOVE to be able to strengthen the direction for male versus female voices

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hoping it recognizes that better

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and more sound effects

frosty cypress
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sound effects control would be awesome, right now i try to figure out how to spell a sound effect.

glad badger
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do less than/greater than signs do anything?

rose jasper
rose jasper
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(asterixwordasterix) & (asterixwordasterix-asterixwordasterix)

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Just make sure to add Sound FX in Style of Music

frosty cypress
glad badger
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oooo

rose jasper
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Let me show you

glad badger
rose jasper
frosty cypress
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its saying buzz

rose jasper
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Yes, it's for you to keep track of where it is

glad badger
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bet if it were bzz bzz it'd do it

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friggin awesome

verbal mortar
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@rose jasper how you getting that nice fatty distored drum kick

rose jasper
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From my experience, beep, static, distortion (sometimes) work quite well

frosty cypress
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that is pretty epic though

undone sleet
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anyone know how i can make like a repeating part?
like in songs where the singer has a backing track for the chorus, the singer would usually repeat the final part of a sentence while the backing track keeps going. so like
all - im lost in a daydream
singer - daydream
all - caught in a mystery
singer - mystery

glad badger
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Drew "The FX Lab" Everlong

rose jasper
rose jasper
verbal mortar
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perf thanks

glad badger
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oh god

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i put Sound FX in the lyrics instead of the Style

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like a nightmare

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like at the beginning, I put [Sound FX] in and it's going nuts

rose jasper
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I've found that they work both ways, but I got better results in Style of Music

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Just remember to write it like I did

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Otherwise it won't do it

glad badger
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yeah i fixed it lol

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waiting for gens now

prime ember
#

possibly too much

glad badger
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apparently there's no such thing... you see Drew's?

verbal mortar
#

anyone else get an email from suno about v4 Loading?

rose jasper
verbal mortar
#

i hear "its loading" and my developer brain says its in stage and ready for rollout.

glad badger
#

lol

rose jasper
verbal mortar
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They cannot tease me like this Brigg...they cannot.

glad badger
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well now i gotta check my email

verbal mortar
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--->> Developer<<---- I take it literal LOL

glad badger
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i got nada

verbal mortar
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hmmm

rose jasper
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Maybe rolling out in portions?

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Availablity, Substainability etc

verbal mortar
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maybe. I hope this is why i'm getting songs that are all 2min or less and extends that won't pass 43 seconds. i'm burning thru credits here.

rose jasper
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Save them

frosty cypress
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id assume a soft roll out, few people here and their over a few week time frame, making sure nothing crashes.

glad badger
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tried making a whip crack test like you did and i just made the coolest sounding gothic industrial trash lol

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no whip crack, mind you

rose jasper
verbal mortar
#

anyone know of a way to get Suno to do a break / bass drop in a song?

rose jasper
#

Maybe it's based around amount of likes, listens, followers

glad badger
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i've had good success with [Break]

pine island
#

guys, suno has https API?

frosty cypress
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[Break] or [Drop]

verbal mortar
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and i've only been a user since late august I think

rose jasper
frosty cypress
#

you can also try things like [Bass Hit], those are more hit and miss though

rose jasper
verbal mortar
#

my first page has 4 songs on it but I think the norm is 20 a page

frosty cypress
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this is why we need a folder structure in suno

glad badger
#

yeahhh my songs are ALL over the place

frosty cypress
#

yours and everybody elses

rose jasper
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7,280 songs

verbal mortar
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been begging for it, nested songs man. nested songs

rose jasper
verbal mortar
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OMFG

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busy much LOL

rose jasper
#

Unemployed

verbal mortar
#

if I didnt' have to work, i'd probably be doing this all day.

rose jasper
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I sometimes take a break for 2-3 days

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But been going since May or something

verbal mortar
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i mean. fridays are short days for us, we shut down at noon. Its 2pm here, this is all I'm doing until my girl gets home from work

frosty cypress
rose jasper
#

Even better...
Statistics tab
Filtering (the current one is only on one place)

frosty cypress
#

we have filtering, but it needs to be fixed, if I tape in the name of a song I don't want it searching lyrics

verbal mortar
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i'd love a stats tab.

  • Nested songs (main, extends, covers, all go under the first iteration of the song)
  • controls to tear out ghosting and bleeding
  • update persona so it captures the voice and singing style and not try to emulate the song it came from
  • individual music stems
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the "controls" thing can be done with AI. it IS a bit complex but there's a plug in that already does it called Clarity. They can try to follow the same idea and do it in the web based. Personally

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'I'd prefer a full blown APP of this opn my desktop.

noble sequoia
rose jasper
#

I find it strange, that Persona does not really keep track of songs you've made with it

quasi mantle
#

Smaller Rips (Song Learning & iCloud)

Does anyone know what this new option is for exactly when importing?
Is there a list of changes anywhere for the new version? 🙂

noble sequoia
#

anyone else getting told from the songs they generate 'this is a fake app go to suno.com/ios'

verbal mortar
verbal mortar
rose jasper
verbal mortar
#

man...to have a true Suno DAW where you put in what you want and you can see it spit out the stems for everything on the fly...omfg.
even as a plug in for Ableton would be cool

frosty cypress
#

well the android app isn't out yet...

noble sequoia
rose jasper
verbal mortar
#

well I am not getting that issue at all, sounds like your browser may have been compromised

noble sequoia
#

it happens no matter the browser or device

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like i tried on my phone, tried on my desktop, tried on chrome tried on firefox idk

verbal mortar
#

run a maleware scan on your pc just to be sage

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safge

noble sequoia
#

ok

verbal mortar
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omg...SAFE

rose jasper
#

Sounds like you've got something on the backend which does something honestly

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Maybe you have some sort of script blocker

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Or maybe cookiee blocker, adblocker latently on your desktop

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Firewall, etc

frosty cypress
#

did you ever try to use a fake app that got blocked and now your account is borked?

rose jasper
#

Did you try to make a new account?

glad badger
#

oh dammit

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spent the last hour doing [whip crack]

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but it's not brackets

#

you have parentheses

noble sequoia
noble sequoia
rose jasper
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Oh yea, sorry!!! @glad badger MY mistake!

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[ ]

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It should be within this

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I'm tired

glad badger
#

that last one you posted uses parentheses tho?

rose jasper
#

Yea, true

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Hmm

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hahahha

glad badger
#

well, i'll give both a shot

noble sequoia
#

peperage yyooo this watermark issueeee is crazyyyy...

rose jasper
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Make only two verses, and use one with () and the other with []

verbal mortar
#

I always use [] otherwise I get them singing things ...they should not...the sing

rose jasper
#

Try Cloudflare WARP and do it

noble sequoia
#

well if i read support correctly its that my account is one of many that got flagged mistakenly but idk yo support said ive been 'helped' but the issue is still there

rose jasper
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Yeah, try cloudflare just to be sure

verbal mortar
#

damn now my account is stuck in create mode...its not moving.

frosty cypress
#

first step, i would make a free account and try it, if the free acount generates fine, your account is borked

verbal mortar
#

Suno ...she is the broken

cunning siren
noble sequoia
noble sequoia
rose jasper
weary wharf
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I do not see any watermarks on my creations currently. It was appearing after the maintenance, but not anymore.

naive quail
# weary wharf I do not see any watermarks on my creations currently. It was appearing after th...

The watermarks that cat is referring to are a bit of a different thing. There are a number of sleezebag sites out there pretending to generate AI music while actually accessing Suno's API without authorization... and charging people money for it.

Suno's response to this is to replace the lyrics on the generations done by those services with the ad that you hear in the track above. Unfortunately, their response seems to be a bit buggy and is also affecting some customers who actually ARE using the legit site.

weary wharf
#

Ah got it 👍

rose jasper
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I didn't understand at all

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Well, that's on them then, and great choice from Suno

charred merlin
noble sequoia
#

but :////// im just waiting for my account to get fixed

rose jasper
#

Well, I've told you what to try out

naive quail
rose jasper
#
  1. Make a free account
  2. Use CloudFlare Warp
rose jasper
noble sequoia
noble sequoia
rose jasper
noble sequoia
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Not problem solved, I want my account fixed

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it was premium

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was told it would be resolvedddd

rose jasper
#

Cancel that one, use it on the new account

charred merlin
rose jasper
#

Follow up with support a few times per week, provide evidence, rinse and repeat

noble sequoia
noble sequoia
rose jasper
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We are not Support as well

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Just keep on talking to them via e-mail

noble sequoia
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Ahh ok

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Yeee hey thanks for helping tho

rose jasper
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They don't check this channel

rose jasper
noble sequoia
#

maybe it will be soon

charred merlin
#

It might be the fact that the support lead was out this week, but usually they're able to investigate these matters relatively easily -- if they need to investigate the matter further, I'd take it as a sign that they're trusting that you haven't done anything fishy & want to help get to the bottom of why the algorithm is flagging your account -- if it was as simple as flipping a switch to "off", it likely would have happened, but they want to make sure it doesn't continue to happen.

Genuinely sucks to feel like you'e stuck in limbo, but it's a "help them help you" kind of situation.

rose jasper
#

And making these changes, might take sometime as well to:

  1. Re-produce
  2. Re-authenticate
  3. Administrate
  4. Setup preventions
    etc, these things take time @noble sequoia
noble sequoia
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Ohhhhhh Ok I completely understand, then I know what to do i'll wait patiently fr

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It might be the fact that the support lead was out this week
Ah sht well makes sense they can take their time 👍

Re-produce
Re-authenticate
Administrate
Setup preventions
etc, these things take time @cat

Oh yea absolutely, well they can do what they got to do i feel a lot more understanding now thanks to u two

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if it was as simple as flipping a switch to "off", it likely would have happened
True

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always good for them to be thorough ok hell yea thanks yall

charred merlin
#

ESPECIALLY if I know I've done nothing wrong, then being made to feel like the onus is being put on me to prove that's the case -- then feeling like the community support is brushing off the concerns.

When he's back from vacay, I'll see if the support lead's shirt sleeve can be tugged to take a look at this asap, if it hasn't been resolved by then.

noble sequoia
#

Thank you and do not worry i didnt think u were a jerk at all 😯

if the roles were reversed, I'd be a lot less chill than you are 😅
Loll

When he's back from vacay, I'll see if the support lead's shirt sleeve can be tugged to take a look at this asap, if it hasn't been resolved by then.

But thank you! Also I hope they have a good vacation 👍

worn flicker
# glad badger well, i'll give both a shot

Sound effects can get weird. Sometimes * works, sometimes [...] works, I have actually never gotten a sound effect to work except for [Bleep] one time on a song I didn't care about...lol. have you heard the whip crack sound effect before on Suno?

glad badger
#

only in like industrial songs

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but i can't get it to prompt for nothin

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it either just says it or it puts like an alien raygun in there

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and for the love of god, do NOT put leather in there as a prompt

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unless you want an old man singing

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trying stuff now like, cattle whip crack, snap, pop

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nada

worn flicker
# glad badger only in like industrial songs

Ok, so here is how I see it. After x amount of times it is time to either leave it be or find another way. I can tell you that I have not been able to get the Sitar to work in 3.5 but it does work in v3. I would like to see the Sitar on v3.5 I find it strange for it just not to be there, I'm not saying it isn't there but I am saying I have not been able to make it happen.

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And that is an entire instrument

rose jasper
#

DO keep in mind..... soundfx is also defined by the genre you use.

glad badger
#

yeah I'm prolly gonna give up after this next gen finishes

worn flicker
#

Have you tried v3?

glad badger
#

yeahhh... trust me, this song should know what a whip crack is

rose jasper
#

If the AI has not had any data to train on/with that has any soundfx in the genre, it won't know what to do

glad badger
#

yikes, system error for V3... is there a lyric limit?

worn flicker
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Yea, but it is the fact v3 had something that 3.5 did not. I have never trained a model before, but I don't think it should prune a instrument

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1250

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You can't mix them anyway. I was just wondering if it worked as a test

naive quail
glad badger
#

hahahahaha

worn flicker
#

I really want to be proven wrong...lol. I want someone to have a sitar generated with v3.5. It is such a famous instrument to just not be there.

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When Duduk is there and Sitar is not...haha. it is strange.

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Be back

glad badger
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ohhh, that's what that is called... sitar

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i was looking for that sound too

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think the closest I ever found was a guiro

worn flicker
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Yea, it was to go with my Battlestar Galactica stuff

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Bear uses the duduk and the sitar amazingly.

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Bendy strings...lol

verbal mortar
#

i am going to punch suno...right in the dick today

worn flicker
#

I am glad I haven't tried to make anything today.

verbal mortar
#

if I break 3min for more than 3 songs I may cry in joy

worn flicker
#

I've just been reading all this insanity

verbal mortar
#

something is going on in the background for sure. I wouldn't be surprised it v4 rolled out this weekend.

worn flicker
#

Even without a release date, I am still waiting on v4

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I dont want to burn credits.

verbal mortar
#

credits for DAAAYS

rose jasper
#

Well something is definitely happening on the backend @worn flicker , which is hopeful

verbal mortar
#

not sure if you can tell, i'm drinking whiskey while working on songs.

rose jasper
#

And also considering the e-mail that was recently sent out

verbal mortar
#

you got one too Drew?>

rose jasper
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I did

verbal mortar
#

I responded saying I would give oral pleasures if I got it early.

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think I will get banned?

vale gazelle
#

when did they expand the Styles and exclude styles section?

worn flicker
#

Damn I don't ever read emails that aren't from college

worn flicker
verbal mortar
#

oh wait exclude...sorry

vale gazelle
#

oh really? 200 Characters aint real?

rose jasper
worn flicker
#

Correct

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120

verbal mortar
#

@rose jasper noted

rose jasper
#

Could you pin that @final hazel ?

worn flicker
#

You done called down the Daisy....oh snap

final hazel
worn flicker
#

Zy

rose jasper
verbal mortar
#

i recently did a cover..ish...of Strutter from KISS but as a Soundgarden song. I can't stop laughing.

rose jasper
lapis mist
#

Heya, anyone have any luck getting rid of shimmering/unwanted noise from vocals/instruments in Suno? I’ve tried with recreate and cover with no luck so far.

rose jasper
#

It's been times, where the admins have logged into Woodhouse as well and spoken to me, on multiple occassions @worn flicker , it's funny af

worn flicker
worn flicker
naive quail
worn flicker
lapis mist
verbal mortar
naive quail
glad badger
#

Well, at least the whip crack sound effect seems to have an effect on the pronunciation and emphasis of the lyrics, so it's not a complete fail

worn flicker
#

Did you just v4 me?

rose jasper
#

Got any Mongolian Throat singing songs @naive quail ?

naive quail
#

I used a silence persona to tap into the enhanced v3.5

verbal mortar
worn flicker
#

Oh yea, I couldn't get it doing the silence cover either. I only tried that a couple times

naive quail
rose jasper
verbal mortar
worn flicker
#

Regardless, my whole thing is for a version to be pruned of a famous instrument. I am not even saying it has been pruned, but I am saying I have not been able to find it. In 3.5 I am very intrigued

rose jasper
#

One thing you should try out @verbal mortar : dog, dog, dog, dog, dog, dog
In Style of Music

worn flicker
#

No tricks just 3.5

verbal mortar
rose jasper
#

Amazing is what it does

verbal mortar
#

hahahahaa where do I put? at the top

rose jasper
#

Style of Music

verbal mortar
#

i put.. i try now

glad badger
#

aight folks, I give up for now

#

taking a break

worn flicker
#

So as of now we are all in agreement that in strait up v3.5 the sitar is just not there. I am very curious, since there is no open source or model to see how it was trained or anything it just makes me wonder how it can happen like that

glad badger
#

thanks for the convos, i learned a LOT today!

verbal mortar
weary wharf
worn flicker
#

Haha

weary wharf
#

It's definitely hard to get though 😄

thin flint
#

Hmm, I guess V4 won't drop for paid users this week. Hoping at some point next week then.

worn flicker
#

Wow, the f bomb gets dropped and nothing, but dumb a s doesn't work out

weary wharf
#

Ahahah...

worn flicker
#

Good job woody

verbal mortar
#

ugh...I wanted a cover of a song Suno just did to clean it up and it kept the 'dog dog dog" prompt I did for Drew....this is gonna be a nightmare. @rose jasper you owe me a quarter

jade quail
unique stone
worn flicker
unique stone
worn flicker
#

I love this community, I'll be honest. Ya'll are just as crazy as me and have a different perspective. That makes a very potent combination for coming up with new things. Just saying.

worn flicker
#

Thank you everyone that tried to help me out

naive quail
worn flicker
quaint hinge
#

Is cover generation not working for everyone?

image.png
#

was many tries, different source tracks, but it doesn't work out in any way. At the same time, the usual generation works fine

ancient vector
frosty cypress
#

is drew everlong still around

charred merlin
frosty cypress
#

why non of this working, yes I have sound fx and sound effects in style. (wind)
[Intro]
(thunder)

(leaves)
(thunder)
(*Walking *)

(thunder)

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oh yeah, it removed the astrisks

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asterisks at start and end of each word

charred merlin
#

Sound effects aren't readily promptable, it's trained primarily for music -- it seems like there IS some nature sounds or something present in the training data, since SixStringToker was able to prompt a rainstorm in the style prompt section, but that was basically all they were trying to prompt for at the time

frosty cypress
empty cloud
#

try using it as
[Intro: thunder ecoing in the silent background]
etc

rose jasper
charred merlin
#

🤷‍♂️ It seems like beep is respected, but the rest are debatable. A lot of them are read outright as lyrics, and many others are interpretive/subjective.

rose jasper
#

Style of Music: SoundFX
(asterixsoundasterix-asterixsoundasterix)
[asterixsoundasterix-asterixsoundasterix]
Keep in mind that most sounds won't work, since they are bound to the genre that the AI is trained on.

frosty cypress
#

so trying to do soundfx with grunge probably not going to work? but maybe if I go more symphonic, cinematic,

empty cloud
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

does anyone have a prompt template available?

rose jasper
#

SoundFX's working:
Beep
Break
Siren
Clap
Birds
Traffic

I should really make a document noting down all the available soundfx's

sand bane
#

After 5 hours have passed, still uploading songs, damn

charred merlin
empty cloud
charred merlin
#

Approaching 10k songs generated, I'm not convinced it does anything beyond "prompt noise", but it's my belief that you don't "code / command" Suno, you talk to it & it "vibes" with your prompt.

frosty cypress
#

waait.. did this happen last night?? lol

image.png
charred merlin
#

I have playlists where I've tested bpm stuff in #1256301881966198805, but none of it seems to work with any reliability. Usually when someone has a super complex prompt that they suggest to someone, it doesn't work when others try it & the response it "I dunno, it worked in my song".

I like to spend my own credits so people can listen to examples of popular ideas to see whether or not they work before they spend their own credits & get upset if Suno "doesn't listen" to a method that's been proven not to work.

frosty cypress
#

from 120 to 200?

charred merlin
# frosty cypress from 120 to 200?

Only 120 works -- anything over should give a system error -- the devs are aware and are fixing it. Just a display issue, like v3 saying 3000 instead of 1250

rose jasper
#

It's a bug, the support team are aware of it

empty cloud
#

hmm does scanning multiple sites for prompt and feed it to an ai count as evidence?

frosty cypress
#

hmm. generated at 125, maybe it just took "orche--"

naive quail
frosty cypress
#

yeah in v3.5, just seems to make vocals more staticy honestly.

naive quail
#

oh 3.5 does sooo much more than vocals, but it sucks at nature sounds.

frosty cypress
#

what i meen is trying to have ambients and sound fx in 3.5 its like the vocals get worse with those tags in it

naive quail
#

@frigid orbit has done tracks with TONS of cool effects

untold briar
#

"field recording"

frigid orbit
naive quail
frosty cypress
frigid orbit
rose jasper
#

He means, for your songs, do you use soundfx @frigid orbit ? OR are you uploading sound bytes etc?

naive quail
#

I believe the answer to that question is "yes" 😄

#

(to both)

vale thunder
#

Man this is a mess, 3 days suno now hasn't been working for me. first day was infinite waiting in line, last 2 days are log in, and create button spins indefinitely..............bummer

polar spade
charred merlin
naive quail
#

don't think so. Or part 1 for that matter

charred merlin
#

👀

#

OKAY -- turns out the fix the devs were talking about was ACTUALLY upgrading the style prompt limit to 200

#

@frosty cypress -- my apologies, when they said they were fixing it, I pessimistically assumed they were changing the displayed limit back to 120, when they meant they needed to fix the fact that it was still limited to 120 instead of getting boosted

THIS ROCKS

frosty cypress
#

so its 200 now?

#

sweet

#

not sure if thats a good thing or a bad thing though, not sure I need more styles to confuse the music ai with

rose jasper
#

And it's working

#

Generating with 192/200

frosty cypress
#

its bad enough I can start in country and end in hardcore metal in the same song, do i really need more?

charred merlin
#

v3 is still limited at 1250 characters, despite saying 3000 in the lyrics section -- but a 66.7% increase in style prompt size is wild 🤘

polar spade
polar spade
frosty cypress
#

goes back to my blend request, being able to blend 2 things together, creating a fill between 2 different sections or songs

lost scaffold
#

Anyone familiar w/ post editing AI music using BandLab? I am mastering songs via SoundCloud and notice afterward the dB is maxing out consistently even though the volume is still relatively low. Tried using Splitter feature to find what part of the song is causing the excessive sound but was not successful.

polar spade
# frosty cypress goes back to my blend request, being able to blend 2 things together, creating a...

It already blends, sort of, when using replace, so if we could just "crop" to remove instead of keep and let it "blend". But I feel since it seems to have to interpolate to blend, there is no set point that it really cuts to, thus we have emerge , "replace", instead of trim or blend. But set margins to replace and it's varied lengths in samples are difficult to work with. I.e. designate 10 seconds and replace 2 words, and the result is a blended 23 seconds and an added chorus and different vocal. 😂

I know it's a lot of hours just to get it to do what it's doing. All i do is play with it. So, I'm just trying to find the sweet spot and noting issues, not complaining.

rose jasper
#

Ok, so I can see how this new limit, will really help v4

#

You can narrow down in such a greater power now

polar spade
# rose jasper You can narrow down in such a greater power now

I've needed the style prompt space to add styles for nuances than for genre. So, as example, if I need a more upfront voice, less/no reverb or nudge to get female vocals , I could use opera, Broadway, or kpop, though the styles are prominently, for example, Americana, folk, neugrass, banjo-infused.

frosty cypress
#

stable diffusion prompting doesn't work right? couldn't do like (Clean Female Vocals:2)

rose jasper
#

They are using Stablediffusion XL

#

But only for images

frosty cypress
#

just wasn't sure if the :X controls worked or not, never tried. even though my first style is MALE VOCALS, it still likes to ignore it

rose jasper
#

You are working with a duet?

frosty cypress
#

not normally no, only one song I am working on is a duet, mostly i just want my vocals male, but apparently I write like a chick

#

it will ignore that 3 times in 10 generations

image.png
rose jasper
#

While duets are possible, it's pretty random, but I found if you include "Musical" it's more commonly used

#

"male voice"
"female voice"
"duet"
[duet]
[male voice]
[female voice]

frosty cypress
#

oh i've kind of nailed the duet thing, even figured out how to switch male and female in the same line

rose jasper
#

I've found, if you add the meta tag, it's easier to get it too work

frosty cypress
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in playing around for some one elses experiment in layerd singing, discovered ((doing this(will give))) 2 different singers and not be background or a whisper.

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with duet and opera in the style

rose jasper
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If you add inflections within ( ) they will linger throughout an entire section as well

frosty cypress
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we never really did figure out polyphony in suno, not sure its possible do to it on purpose or consistently

fallen hollow
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@naive quail how did you structure your lyrics and style to get that output?? That’s amazing!

frosty cypress
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could of sworn he was typing an answere. lol

naive quail
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woodhouse is probably gonna spank me over all the links, but here we go:

frosty cypress
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lol

naive quail
# fallen hollow <@217629393957158912> how did you structure your lyrics and style to get that ou...

there's a bit of secret sauce in there, but most of it can be found in other tracks I've done. For styles like that, I always start the lyrics with something similar to:

[Ambient Sound Effects: Dark, Horror] followed by some sfx tags or prompt noise (usually in the form of slashes //\//\\/\\\//\ ). The sfx tags don't always trigger the desired result, but they frequently do trigger SOME kind of effect that often still works.

This one still has all of the tags:

https://suno.com/song/135504dd-0dc6-4ec0-9d75-dbbdf0118622

and the tracks in these testing/experimental playlists should still have all of their tags:

Sound Effect Testing: https://suno.com/playlist/e5cf28f1-3415-4a7e-8b31-f9299512984a

Testing [Tag] Styles: https://suno.com/playlist/48ec1c9e-836e-465b-9dd8-2daf43be3e42

Experiments: https://suno.com/playlist/c9e59d46-82bd-4732-9a02-c7010ca291be

But What Is Evil!? (Creepy Voice Test) by @sixstringtoker | Suno

Dark Horror Poetry, Spoken Word, Glitch Audiobook, Creepy Male Vocals, Eerie male vocals song. Listen and make your own with Suno.

▶ Play video
frosty cypress
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so whats with the slashes? i've seen those in a few others noise prompt?

naive quail
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it's just text that Suno won't sing... It can keep instrumentals going for a longer period and can trigger cool weirdness.

frosty cypress
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oh sweet. ill try it out

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lol added it after a thunder tag, it went . poo poo, poo pooo.

rose jasper
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And gives it a bit more of a better focus, just like what you mentioned @polar spade

frosty cypress
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burning credits to get an end. lmao

fallow crest
# naive quail there's a bit of secret sauce in there, but most of it can be found in other tra...

https://youtu.be/1MDuzH5bxPc?si=E3RuyfOYtnZM_Lh4

YouTube
EMMTNNX
NUCLEON / VISUALIZER 4K

Explora las profundidades de [NUCLEON] un track dark techno ambient.
Un mundo de sonidos oscuros y atmósferas subatómicas, acompañados de visuales intensos y la letra en pantalla para que vivas cada verso. Esta combinación de electrónica, techno y dark ambient crea una experiencia inmersiva para los amantes de los sonidos oscuros y misteriosos....

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naive quail
polar spade
rose jasper
naive quail
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The explorer in the Barrow's Whisper is actually the creature in Run, Harber Run.

fallow pollen
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我觉得只是轻微相似，这是日本风格的虚拟歌姬声音，并不是京剧中的嗓音，我觉得这并不完美，因为流行歌曲中也有类似的唱法，但并没有学习到，不然它会是一个比较有趣的玩法。👍

polar spade
# fallow pollen 我觉得只是轻微相似，这是日本风格的虚拟歌姬声音，并不是京剧中的嗓音，我觉得这并不完美，因为流行歌曲中也有类似的唱法，但并没有学习到，不然它会是一个比较有趣的玩法...

Always good to hear samples to compare. Thanks for the response.听到样品进行比较总是件好事。谢谢您的回复。

Since it may be, as mentioned, a difficult attemp to get a Peking / Beijing sound, it's helps to find how close we can get by trying other prompts. So I threw in Kabuki, vietnamese folk, even anime prompts and got closer to a sound than with just prompting "Peking Opera" . I'm sure things will improve with more AI modeling in the future. 😊

worn flicker
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I'll have to start a song with it and then wrap around it with the other instruments. I'm tired. I'll have to do it tomorrow.

raven steppe
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Is anyone else having trouble making songs with custom lyrics? I need getting the "clip got stuck while generating" error

frosty cypress
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negative..

raven steppe
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aw man

frosty cypress
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been fine for me today, last night was a bitch glitchy

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bit not bitch... omg

raven steppe
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lol

frosty cypress
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tired.

hexed glacier
warped furnace
raven steppe
hexed glacier
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Oh wow. It literally JUST happened to me right now

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What did you doooooo to me?

frosty cypress
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had a lot of weird glitches last night after the server maintenance and chicken nugget fiasco, but its been fine for me most the day.

raven steppe
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Yeah, i've been having this issue since like 7am

frosty cypress
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eat some chicken nuggets, maybe that might help. lol.. ehh. last night was.. strange..

raven steppe
patent sphinx
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Wrong thread sorry

vernal compass
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PLEASE HELP

i amtrying to generate song with lyrics but its not working. i can generate instruments and stuff without lyrics

hollow hare
raven steppe
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Been waiting for it to work almost all day

hollow hare
raven steppe
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It says “clip got stuck while generating”

hollow hare
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Also please provide more details, like if you are using v3.0 or 3.5, persona being used, etc.

A common error being seen today:

v3 is still limited at 1250 characters, despite saying 3000 in the lyrics section
– TheHarber

hollow hare
raven steppe
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Oh is that a new thing? the lyric limit right now?

hollow hare
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One of my very old v3 got hit with a bug that makes it appear as v4 too (but definitely does not sound like v4 lol)

raven steppe
raven steppe
hollow hare
raven steppe
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So this lyric limit is new for maintenance for pre- V4?

naive quail
glad badger
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I want that as my ringtone

outer cosmos
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Delay Sooooon

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acoustic current
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the website is telling me to wait until my generations are finished even though i have none being made

summer canyon
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I typed "test
this is a test
thank you" and it generated this as lyrics

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I hoped suno trained their own lyrics model 😭

stone star
surreal relic
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is there a way i can edit the lyrics, and maintain the same song?

hollow hare
# surreal relic is there a way i can edit the lyrics, and maintain the same song?

You can edit your displayed lyrics if that is what you mean. This is done via Menu > Edit Details or going to the lyrics page (/song/) and scrolling to the bottom.

If you mean fixing your lyrics, there is the Replace tool but that is limited to subscribers and I think it may change the music in that region?
I haven't had a reason to test that feature out since I am predominantly a mobile user and that tool works in Desktop Mode

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There is also using Extend but that very likely will change the music

surreal relic
hollow hare
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Just don't subscribe only for that tool. Do it for the credits

hollow hare
# surreal relic i am on desktop tho, will try it after i subscribe hehe thanks

Just in case: be aware that the subscription is a renewal/refresh credit system, not carry over. That means when the month ends, it will refresh back to the monthly credit amount, not additive.

The exceptions are if you buy top-up credits - which are more pricey - and Suno gift credits. They can carry over but you will need an active subscription to use the top-up credits

surreal relic
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thats good info, thanks alot

glad valley
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I'm hoping they take my suggestion at some point and make it possible to do early renewals (instead of having to purchase credits if you run out)

stable barn
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Few days ago i asked about getting back onto my account. you helped me find my @ and a bit of trouble shooting. Thank you, I got it back.

humble parrot
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Quelqu’un parle t il francais ?

crystal pagoda
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I'd share an example but idk if my songs are permitted to be shared as they blatantly sound like Eminem, and I think it against TOS to share the ones like that.

crystal pagoda
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Could staff correct me if I'm wrong should they see this?

humble parrot
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En utilisant suno je n’arrive pas à choisir si je veux une voix d’homme ou de femme y a t il moyen de faire ca ?

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Using suno I can't choose if I want a male or female voice. Is there a way to do that?

crystal pagoda
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vous devez inviter via l'invite de style avec un chanteur masculin ou féminin

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vous pouvez également inclure dans les paroles certaines balises de métadonnées

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No clue if that's correct translations, it Google translate

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ils ont un wiki en ligne

nimble apex
drifting beacon
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Has anyone had any success with getting Suno to use proper Old English/Anglo-Saxon pronunciation? It gets most things right already by default, but struggles with c/ċ, ġ, ǣ, and vowel length. Replacing those with k/ch, j, and ae (as a digraph) messes up the rest of the pronunciation and turns it into this weird modern German/Icelandic hybrid.
for example, here it pronounces the c's in āþecgan and cymeð properly, but not in lāc or swylce: https://suno.com/song/eab2858b-a555-4da4-be59-23af965dd3d0

Wulf ond Eadwacer by @smowl | Suno

old english, organ, hurdy-gurdy, fast aggressive, dark, low notes, choir, thunderous percussion, battle, marching song. Listen and make your own with Suno.

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I know it's kind of an edge-case/not really what it was designed for, and it's impressive that it manages what it does already, but still

crystal pagoda
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You might find results by getting a small easy for it to sing sample, making a persona, then using that persona for those kinds of songs

drifting beacon
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That is in fact exactly what I did there already! :P

crystal pagoda
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Ah lol

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I hadn't looked at it as I'm on mobile

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Then idk, probably just do a refinement loop of getting more and more accurate personas

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That's what I did for getting the vocals I want

drifting beacon
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I trained it on Beowulf, since I imagine that has (relatively) plentiful material for the model in general to be trained on

crystal pagoda
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Are you writing the lyrics yourself or are you using ai to assist

drifting beacon
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I'm just copying them from the original (it's over a millenium old so no copyright issues lol)

crystal pagoda
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Oh I wasn't concerned with copyright, just was wondering if the specific cadence or something(im not musically inclided) was throwing the model off, I'm not familiar enough with old English but could you try writing it in the phonetics

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This is what claude outputed, as an example of what I mean

"Lay-oh-dum iss mee-num swyl-che him mohn lahk yi-feh;
will-ath hee hi-neh ah-thec-gan yif hay ohn thray-aht koo-meth."

drifting beacon
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Ooh, good idea, might try that

crystal pagoda
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The model responds well to phonetics I've found

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Well not me, but the community

drifting beacon
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It's mainly just a pain in the butt to do that manually, I didn't realize AI could get so close on its own

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Did you use a specific claude bot or just their general model?

crystal pagoda
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I use both their web app and the api for making my songs, I got a long system prompt that guides it to write the positive and negative style prompts, and the lyrics for me. But their api is less restricted if you want a specific sound to the lyrics.

drifting beacon
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Gotcha, thanks a bunch!

crystal pagoda
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Your welcome, let me know if you want that prompt, though it would need to be when I get off work.

frigid orbit
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Or both, how ever you wanna say it. Sometimes you get some funk on a gen, sometimes you upload your own funk

tropic valley
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can someone explain shortly how the personas work?
it should copy the voice and style of the song, right?

however, every time i generate something the output is exactly the same song that the persona was based on, as it does not follow the new lyrics input at all
have tried 10+ generations.. only thing ive noticed that it generates something random in the end, either hallucinate or repeat some lyrics

crystal pagoda
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could you share your lyrics and promtps

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its likely the source song that might be a problem

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the feature bassically grabs the vocals but also the general vibe

tropic valley
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well, currently i let AI generate random lyrics and now it seems to work
is there a general rule..? like what i was trying to do is to replace lyrics, some words etc over the whole song + added a verse
(so instead of extending and replacing sections, thought persona might do the trick)

crystal pagoda
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i would advise if you want your songs to sound good and original to not use the built in lyric generator, and instead use claude to write the lyrics.

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Could you explain that a bit more, im not following

tropic valley
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im not using it mostly, just for a testing purpose

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sec, will create a longer wall of text

crystal pagoda
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personas are for new generations

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send it in dm if wall of text

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the cover feature would be what your looking for im pretty sure

tropic valley
crystal pagoda
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That would be better served by using the cover feature

tropic valley
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the 1st verse has a change already, so no need to analyse the whole song

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ill try the cover, thanks

crystal pagoda
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just edit the lyrics in the text box first and then those lyrics should be changed

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also make sure to use the same title to get the same seed as the original song, pretty sure thats a thing(?)

tropic valley
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seems like the title does not matter
cover either creates the same song or a totally new song (though some sections are familiar)

well.. must respect the beta tags though and ill try to do it in the old and longer approach

crystal pagoda
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You could just run through generations with the feature until its similar enough, thats what i do when i really want a 'mastered' version. but that burns through them quick unless you itterate on the prompt/lyric metatags

tropic valley
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true, might even get something which i would enjoy more

crystal pagoda
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My advice would be to over engineer the lyric metatags, though ive only played in one genre doing that so idk how well itd go for yours.

cold zenith
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Thank you SUNO, for putting 200 to style instead of 120. Great Move

brisk drift
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Greetings here. Can anyone tell, is suno works better today? Or it still bugging and glitching like before?

tropic valley
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must specify what you mean by "before"

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2023? better right now

brisk drift
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I mean 2 days

polar spade
# brisk drift Greetings here. Can anyone tell, is suno works better today? Or it still bugging...

Must specify what a "bug" and "glitch" would consist of. Yes. There's been some... but ... well... ok... I'm a premium user and haven't experience any bug or glitch that wasn't explained by my actions.

I've experience downtime for maintenance. So rule those out. And I've had hiccups which after 5 minutes don't repeat. Often due to user use fluctuations.

Now , some things don't work well, which seems glitchy and buggy and I report them. Most, seem to improve.

So, yes, there seems to be an improvement on a daily basis.

I guess suno is working better today. Yes!

polar spade
# brisk drift I mean 2 days

I read through as many convos, throughout the day. A mass number have been either from newer users that are having trouble with generating off the lyrics they use..... or older users who are now trying to reuse older lyrics from weeks or months old songs (or make persona's from them)...only to find the older lyrics get re-evaluated and filtered. All seem to resolve the issue or just stop responding in chat. So that's hard to tell if a Suno error ...or user error....but occasionally I try to repeat their error (but of course, not use their lyrics) and I can't repeat anything to give me an error.

So what's been happening the past 2 days.... specifically that has affected everyone?

charred merlin
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@polar spade I think it's just that instead of outright saying "your content has been flagged for moderation", now it makes it seem like a random system error, so they keep trying -- in this instance, it should be obvious why it's being flagged for moderation, but because it's not as explicit of an error message, people will ask what they're doing wrong.

polar spade
charred merlin
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Beyond the lyrics, using artist names & their specific songs in the style prompt is the first thing they cover in the moderation page https://help.suno.com/en/articles/3198209

Does Suno moderate songs?

We support a welcoming community for anyone to make music, but inappropriate content may get flagged before you can generate a song. At the moment, so...

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Someone recently said "I used to make stupid songs without any issue, and now those same prompts are getting blocked" -- I don't know what they mean by "stupid songs", but just because something wasn't flagged by the automoderator previously doesn't mean that it's guaranteed to pass the moderation every time -- sounds like the automoderator is getting better at detecting content they don't want on their platform.

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In regards to replicating the issue -- I think the automoderator is interpretive to a degree, and not just a hard & fast filter of blocked words. The founders of Suno came from Kensho, who are working to reduce toxicity in LLMs, so this is right up their alley https://blog.kensho.com/an-introduction-to-mitigating-toxicity-in-llms-c8d1c5600a9b

However, I've tried using someone elses lyrics, and it worked once only to get blocked the second time and every time after that, so it might not have caught something on the first pass, then learned afterward.

brisk drift
# polar spade I read through as many convos, throughout the day. A mass number have been eithe...

I have also been a premium user for over six months. Since the last technical maintenance, SUNO has been generating low-quality outputs. I noticed several messages in chats about this yesterday, and today the issue persists. I have tried changing the text, style, and settings, but the quality remains low on version 3.5. I just want to know when everything will return to normalю
I don't want to waste credits and get low quality sound🥺

polar spade
# brisk drift I have also been a premium user for over six months. Since the last technical ma...

Excellent point. That can get a direct response.

Personally, I've been bouncing around so much testing in the tools and not completing songs that I cant say , myself. My results have mostly been just random things i didnt want, some may include the fidelity of the extension or "replace" samples but I brushed it off for then getting nicer sounds later.

That will be something I'll listen for. Glad you narrowed it down. I was taking a wild guess based on other convos. I missed the chats about sound fidelity. Not that I can do anything, but maybe get details that will help me later.

You might have to ask again sometime later to get a more "worldly" response after others wake up. ☺️

wheat rose
crystal pagoda
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Not consistently, but it can't be filter in all cases as my lyrics will work eventually

charred merlin
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v3.5 can use the full 3000

crystal pagoda
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I use exclusively V3.5

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I'm meaning when it's near the limit

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Of 3000

polar spade
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@crystal pagoda I think you speak Chinese? Does each character equal a roman letter equivalent or would suno translate consider , such as Ni, to be 1 character letter, or 3, as it translate to "you? I've wonder how characters affect lyrics capacity.

crystal pagoda
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The issues resolve when I take a verse off and just add it on by extending it, I could try to get a video of this if I remember

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I do not speak any language other than English

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Also as for the characters Chinese and other special characters would take up more tokens I would assume, as they do with language models I'm pretty sure

polar spade
crystal pagoda
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Lol

charred merlin
drifting perch
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why does it sound distorted in chorus .. its overclipping

polar spade
drifting perch
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Lots of good songs are wasted with that bad distortion

polar spade
gilded shore
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could you help me, when i click create, it loads for a long while then says error, failed to create. im under word limit, i tried everything.

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when i click creat again though, it says please wait for your other generations to finish.

charred merlin
gilded shore
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well its been 4 days since i actually opened the website

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so i dont think any other songs are being generated

charred merlin
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If they've been stuck in the generation queue for 4 days, you'll need to contact support@suno.com so they can look into fixing the account -- that doesn't sound like anything the community would be able to shake loose

gilded shore
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unfortunatly there are only articles

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this is the exact error im getting:

A clip got stuck while generating.
No credits were used and you can retry.

naive quail
# drifting perch Yes during chorus/drop not just vocal all the sounds

I don't hear anything that I'd describe as clipping on my iems, but there's definitely some noise that rises and falls throughout the track - not sure if that's what you're referring to or not.

There's a ambient-kinda background effect with that synth in the beginning, not sure what to call it; sort of a staticy wind-like sound. It's fading as her vocals come in at 00:08 and completely gone by 00:10. That seems to rise and fall a bit throughout the track, but really becomes prominent enough around the 01:07 mark that it does make the vocals sound a bit distorted by the final chorus.

drifting perch
weary wharf
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Hihats also can cause that "sss" sound around 6k hz, turns into a bad noise after 2-3 min mark mostly.

charred merlin
# gilded shore this is the exact error im getting: A clip got stuck while generating. No cred...

That error has been coming up lately in regards to content being blocked for moderation -- https://help.suno.com/en/articles/3198209 -- there's been a lot of instances of prompts that used to get past the automod that are being blocked now, like using specific artist / song names in the lyrics or style prompts, etc

Does Suno moderate songs?

We support a welcoming community for anyone to make music, but inappropriate content may get flagged before you can generate a song. At the moment, so...

keen shale
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Is the song generation down? Every time I go to make a song it refreshes the page and the song isn't there

south crown
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The system asks me to verify that I am human every minute.

charred merlin
south crown
naive quail
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So ChatGPT 4o? 😄

charred merlin
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Okay -- Suno must be making a mistake, because I can assume that you're either human, or running chatGPT o1-preview, which is basically close enough these days. 😛

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(stole my joke, you brat)

naive quail
keen shale
charred merlin
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An easy way to check if it's localized to the device or if it's account-wide is to try to use Suno.com from another device, like your phone's mobile browser if you usually use desktop -- if it's acting the same, you might need to contact support@suno.com for them to look into the account & help investigate what might be causing the Captcha to trigger

south crown
haughty marsh
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Anyone noticed that sometimes, songs using personas, stop at 3:17. I had a few creation like that, ending in the middle of a sentence at 3:17 every time.

trim arrow
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Yes, you'll get that every time, around the 3:20 mark. It's park of the persona package.

jolly cape
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What's the best unofficial API Library or Tool?

hollow hare
jolly cape
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Oh okay...

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So instead of making an API they punish even them who do that for them (where you still then buy credits from Suno) to use that API, okay.

hollow hare
jolly cape
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They are just funded by investors and don't care to make money over API?

hollow hare
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I honestly would not be surprised if Suno's legal team are putting a case together against certain sites and repos, at least against those that are based in USA

hollow hare
jolly cape
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I mean free plan makes sense to get more users, but API is easy to do (they already have it for Frontend) and makes a lot of money. But instead of doing that even going against tools that make API possible? Insane to me

hollow hare
jolly cape
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Understandable, but then why putting effort into suing tools that do it for them?

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You still buy Suno Credits etc.

hollow hare
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And most people would use an API to make an opposing service using their infrastructure. Not really seeing a reason why API should be allowed, at least to anyone not partnered

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Regardless, there is currently no API service being offered by Suno.
For further questions about this topic, please direct it to support@suno.com

jolly cape
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Yeah

jolly cape
hollow hare
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(I am not a member of Suno anyways so nothing I can do nor is anything I am saying on their behalf.)
If you want to have an official reason as to why Suno is not allowing API usage, at least at the moment, support should be able to address that

naive quail
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uhg. Library maintenance is so tedious

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charred merlin
trim arrow
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@charred merlin nice find. (I've never seen anything but ~3:20 mark myself, thanks for clearing up my assumption)

jade mist
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I honestly don't care about api. I assume there are other music ai generators out there that are literally copying Suno and what it does. They have similar quality to V3.5 and a 4 minute max clip...

charred merlin
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copying Suno
Selling unauthorized access to the API, pocketing the cash, & leaving users with an inferior service devoid of early-access features? Yeah, there's a couple & it's a shame, since the users might have trusted that random site to provide commercially licensable songs, which may result in their "unknowingly stolen" songs getting flagged when they try to monetize them 👀

glad badger
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Precisely why I have no problem adding Suno to my budget

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hard to find developers nowadays that actually try to make a viable product and have passion behind it

cunning siren
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Hi all, does anyone know if Matchering has a maintained successor?

charred merlin
cunning siren
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Tried Bandlab before but it is somehow creating muddy stuff or at least sometimes adds some plaque

charred merlin
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According to the matchering github, it's been integrated into the UVR5 desktop app -- that might suit your needs?

cunning siren
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Will have a look, thanks. Let’s find out if it’s different

charred merlin
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Was there any issues you were having with matchering, or just saw that the last release was oct 2022 and wondered if there were any projects that had built off it?

cunning siren
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The latter, two years of inactivity for an Open Source Tool usually means „discontinued“ or replaced 😃

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Or sold 😂

charred merlin
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I was lucky to have stumbled into LANDR early on, I don't recommend it outright because I prefer to suggest free (preferably without limit), but they've been phenomenal to my liking so far

cunning siren
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Lately I saw a vid where a guy was claiming all the online mastering Tools including those at distributors would just make use of matchering

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Cannot compare of course

charred merlin
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https://youtu.be/wZRV2H4PK0Q?t=458 He calls out how LANDR is different at 7:40 -- they're literally the pioneers of AI mastering, with over a decade's experience -- looks like he also shows Bandlab at the end of that spiel there 💪

warped furnace
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I can use more than 120 characters in the Style Box? When did this happen? 😲

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