#📚┃suno-school

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zealous pawn
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Ah gotcha cool

neat nexus
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I randomly remembered an old group that I liked about a decade or more ago. Used to listen to one of the member's podcast for a long time. I decided to junk about a bit and see if I could get something that came at least a little close to a song by their s I liked. I'm pretty sure I failed.

This though? This was intriguing to me. I'll definitely be revisiting the style and the memes as lyrics. I think there's potential there. What do you guys think?

This is called The Light has Gone Out (But I Still Work)

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(Oh and in case anyone was wondering, the inspiration was Love Spirals, Stir About the Stars. And this was a second attempt when I decided to just have fun since I couldn't come up with a good poem like those lyrics are.)

north plume
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is there a history of chirp songs I have created that I can look back into??

tacit tendon
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Who have idea to make ending of song ?

pastel crown
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/Chirp

flint havenBOT
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night dirge
night dirge
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6281 in total, Genres, Styles, Subgenres, Fusion, etc. Would be interesting train a model like Suno with a database like that

night dirge
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Thanks for this! I really love it!

broken lotus
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While I'm certain there's no such thing as "canadian house'... (unless it serves waffles)

I am 100% trying Norwegian Space Disco because I HOPE that one is real.... 😹

neat nexus
warm tide
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Can we make only music without lyrics? If yes, how?

broken lotus
crude echo
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#crip

neat nexus
# crude echo #crip

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lucid hound
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Why is the output so high in treble?

lucid hound
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more

broken lotus
neat nexus
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Did this one a few days ago and gave up on it...maybe I shouldn't have?

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Granted the one I have above is rather energetic for the genre but still....

broken lotus
neat nexus
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lulz

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Bow-chicka-bow-wow....

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😏

broken lotus
neat nexus
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Naughty filter at work?

broken lotus
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lol, vintage words don't trigger the censor.

Just couldn't get that sleazy WAH-WAH saxophone

neat nexus
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(I'm so sorry. Chirp just likes me...what can I say?)

broken lotus
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'sultry' Hmmmm

neat nexus
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If it helps, the b-track was just drums..

And I think the (hmmm) and the [downtempo] helps as well as the onomatopoeia but how it all plugs in together I couldn't tell you.

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Actually, when/if one of the team members takes a look in here, could they take a poke and see if it is possible to isolate why this worked? I get that some of it is just sheer dumb luck on my part with the dice rolls, but can it be broken down a bit to see what bends in this direction? My prompt was:

`[intro]

(hmmmm)

[saxophone]
Wah-wah-wa

[downtempo]`

With the style as: sultry sexy songs

Result posted above was the first and only attempt and the first version produced.

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(Or at least the left side of the two.)

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I've got work meetings this afternoon, but I'll definitely check in later.

flint havenBOT
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broken lotus
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Spamming the Genre box FTW 🏆

Melodic Saxophone, Melodic Saxophone, Melodic Saxophone, Melodic Saxophone, downtempo sexy groovy instrumental

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the 'waa-wah' didn't work for me, but spamming did make a sax... that's a win!

silver flax
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Music

neat nexus
broken lotus
neat nexus
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I see.

neat nexus
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So I tried continuing it...it went ok I guess. But since I really didn't have any plans I don't know if it's just a bunch of noise or what?

I tried a bit of lyric but they all (in my head) sounded like something out of a 40s musical...which can be good I guess but not really my thing...

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Though this unfinished work (for the same reason) may beg me to reconsider if maybe it is my thing and I'm just embarrassed about it...

broken lotus
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😩 Agh! I made my song too long and it won't let me ❤️ the whole thing....

neat nexus
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T-t-that's a thing?

broken lotus
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😞

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I can put it together in Garageband, maybe 😓

neat nexus
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Seriously. That's a thing?

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I made an eight minute, twenty second song once.

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How long is yours?

broken lotus
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5:40

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no, that's how long I can get...

neat nexus
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I don't know why it's not combining.

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That sounds like a bug.

broken lotus
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another 5 chirps after that...

neat nexus
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So about seven or eight minutes.

broken lotus
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yeah...

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will try again late tonight...

neat nexus
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Yeah I think there might be an issue. In addition to your own troubles, look at how this recent attempt just ended on its own. This is the beginning of the song...

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broken lotus
neat nexus
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Huh...Yeah, I could see it.

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That might be a great intro background music for a YouTube video title sequence or something...

broken lotus
neat nexus
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Yes, yes they are.

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lucid hound
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Is chirp able to continue existing music? I am not asking aboet the discord bot, but rather the underlying software

open magnet
lucid hound
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cool, just wondered

rare grove
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I asked for a blues sound and got rap???

open magnet
broken lotus
broken lotus
neat nexus
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"fingerstyle"

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makes note

covert sonnet
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/chirp

flint havenBOT
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vernal depot
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/chirp

flint havenBOT
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broken lotus
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🙂 : Ok Chirp, let's make something dramatic and esoteric, like acid-rock guitar-feedback and mind expanding atmospheric, but pretentious and pointless too.... Just to see what prompts work.

🐣 : (pretentious atmospheric noodling)

☺️ : That is perfect Chirp, now END.

🐣 : (ends pretentious noodling) 🫡

🐥 : 🥁

🤭 : think you're being cute? I'll humor you this time... ⏩

😏 : But I'm not helping you with any prompts or genre. You're on your own!

🐥 : 🥁 🎸 🎵

🤨 : Not done yet... well... I guess. ⏩

🐤 : 🎶 🎸 🦕 🎵 ⚡

😒 : ... ⏩

🐤 : 🎶👄 🎸🧜‍♂️ 💫 🎵

🥺 : ⏩

🐥 : 🎵 🎶👄 🎸✨ 😗 🎺 🎹 💫 🎵 🎶

daring lava
rancid tartan
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what AI model does chirp use? Is it based on one of the facebook ones, or is it entirely custom?

digital jungle
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how do you get out of a crappy sound when you're linking multiple files? Seem to have gone donwn a wrong alley and can't get the vocals to change with new genres

neat nexus
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Some times that's the only way forward.

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There's a context window you always have to be aware of.

deep crypt
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/chirp

flint havenBOT
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glad crane
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/chirp

flint havenBOT
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glad crane
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/chirp

flint havenBOT
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quartz robin
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Hi! Suno doesn't work for about 20 minutes

graceful cliff
graceful condor
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outrage or outage?

uneven shore
graceful condor
digital jungle
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is /Chirp not working in the Beta-1 channel?

neat nexus
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There is an issue being worked on...

digital jungle
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It's outputting gibberish talk now!

digital jungle
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@worthy grotto I think we broke it lol. It's outputting content but all gibberish you can't understand

broken lotus
digital jungle
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not when I'm 5 clips into my song!

neat nexus
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It can be frustrating! I know.

broken lotus
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or last resort, regen that chirp to get a different ending

digital jungle
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so how would you break up this copy and feed it for best results? Going for a Dr. Seuss style story book rhyme: Thus, GiverGlee grew,
in joy and good cheer,
Thanks to the Smart Coin,
they all held so dear.

So if you want to give, but give smarter, you see,
Just get yourself a Smart Coin™, and you'll soon agree.

With this coin in your pocket,
you're charity's never alone,

For you're sharing the message,
each time that it's shown.

broken lotus
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where is it cutting now?

digital jungle
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that's all in one clip

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pretty much the last clip before it started getting wonky

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Here's the full lyrics:

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server blocked my pasting the full lyrics

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First clip: In the town of GiverGlee, far as your eyes can see, Lived the folks, who cared, oh so care-freely! They donated to charity, high-fived and cheered, But still, they wondered, "Can we kick it up, this year?"

Then came Keith, from Gray Water Ops, With a Smart Coin in his pocket, he took fundraising to the tops!

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"What's the chip do?" young Timmy dared to inquire, "Does it dance, does it sing, or perhaps, spit out fire?"

"No," said Keith, with a smile so wide, "It turns every donor into a charity guide!"

You carry it daily, in pocket, purse, or wallet, Put the coin in their hands, and watch them be exalted!

This magical coin links their phone, no cap! A donation from here, is one simple tap.

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The coin tells your phone, to open a browser. Takes you to the donation page, can't get easier!

The town buzzed and hummed, oh, they hummed with glee, "This Smart Coin™," they thought, "is the future, you see?"

They each took a coin, and what did they do? They became ambassadors, of their favorite charities crew!

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They carried the weight, not heavy but light, Of their favorite causes, with all their might.

Sharing the mission, in palm or in hand, The Smart Coin™ was making kindness go hand in hand!

And if you tapped your phone, oh just give it a try, It's worth a try, don't worry, don't cry!

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Thus, GiverGlee grew, in joy and good cheer, Thanks to the Smart Coin, they all held so dear.

So if you want to give, but give smarter, you see, Just get yourself a Smart Coin™, and you'll soon agree.

With this coin in your pocket, you're never alone, For you carry a piece of a charity's home.

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Now, I know what you're thinking. I know what you'll say.
No one will do it! Not ever, no way!
But maybe they will, or maybe they might,
Or maybe they won't want to join the fight.

It only takes one to continue the cycle, Say yes to your plea, take the torch, and recycle.

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You're helping our cause so what's there to lose?If it all falls apart we've got plenty of booze!

I didn't just say that, a Freudian slip,What I meant to say was keep a stiff upper lip!

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Many will say no, get ready for rejection.But the one's who say yes, inspire love and affection.It's all part of the magic, let giving transpire.The smart coin in your plan takes your fundraising higher.

And don't forget, Keith's book makes it clear,"The Coin that Changed Charity" is a tale you must hear!So hop on to read, and get inspired,For a world of smart giving, that never gets tired!

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Get a free copy of "The Coin That Changed Charity" on Amazon, with Kindle Unlimited, or grab the paperback or hard cover.Want more info or to discuss a custom smart coin for your next fundraiser? Visit Gray Water Ops dot com.

broken lotus
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🤷‍♀️ I mean, there's no way for me to help. The AI has built up to some music motif in the last 10sec of your last lyric clip. the continuation wants to continue with that music/lyric pattern.

either you need to supply it some extra lyrics to move into (even 1 line might work)

or you need to go back, break up that last chirp into 2 chirps by making the lyrics shorter (in other words, change the lead-in so you don't have such a strong lyric-oriented motif)

digital jungle
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ok

broken lotus
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The hallucinations you've heard should give a clue to what it is expecting/wanted...

digital jungle
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it seems that each additiolnal clip makes teh voice go higher and I can't seem to request a male vocal or change in the middle.

broken lotus
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(also one of the devs has said the next(?) version of chirp is better at male/female vocal prompting, but idk the eta...)

violet vortex
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Has anyone tried to put non-sung narration successfully?

main hemlock
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Hello, I haven't been able to make it play a song in a specific key, for example: Fm. It also doesn't play at the BPM I indicate, for example: 128 BPM.

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Does anyone know if it's possible? I would greatly appreciate the information.

fair wren
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Hi everyone! I have a question about Chirp, what is the output sample rate? What about the number of channels?

broken lotus
broken lotus
broken lotus
neat nexus
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The magic incantation I use is [temposhift] and it doesn't always work. Ditto on [ritardando] which also doesn't always work. They do something often enough that I'm convinced that something is happening but it's not anything close to an exact science.

Like everything with AI related generation, you have to experiment.

untold briar
solemn edge
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Hi, I am unable to renew my subscription

shut nymph
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Is chirp going to be in local ?

broken halo
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I'm on a basic plan, which is free, and I only have 50 (or should I say i can only generate 5) chirps per day. Yesterday I wasted all my chirps, the next day (today) I can't make chirps now. Why?

vital elbow
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Is there any dictionary on how to use chirp properly? I've noticed (I think) that () don't work and [] should be used instead... but is there any limit to what can go in the square brackets? Like [Verse 1] [Verse 2] etc

broken halo
untold briar
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[chorus] and [verse] and common song structures work pretty consistently. Anything you put in brackets will be treated a bit differently by the AI overall. So you can try anything in there.

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[fade out] and [song ends] are cool when they work, but more hit or miss. [Melodic Instrumental] is a recent favoriate

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If you really spam the brackets, interleaved between the lyrics, you can sometimes confuse the AI in really fun ways. Like listen to the first line of this, it's sort of singing the words IN THE BAGPIPES #💬┃general-chat message

broken halo
untold briar
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You can even try {} and it sometimes does fun things. That's basically stuff the AI leaned on its own not on purpose, as I understand it. But [chorus] and [verse] were given an extra nudge from the devs. If you want to try things, think of something you might find in real song lyrics and how it is formatted.

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I posted this as reply in suggestions but probably useful to have here. Some of this is from dev comments, other stuff is more of a personal guess.
Parts of the Chirp prompt are special or treated differently?

A lot of what the AI does with non sung text are things it learned by itself, and not a feature designed on purpose from the start. As far I know the tags like [chorus] [verse] in Chirp V1 was actually one of these random things the AI learned, and now in this version, V2, those tags were formally made into a feature, on purpose. Other stuff treated differently is:

  1. Commas in style field, separating concepts. Intent was to make the order of words not be too fiddly.
  2. [brackets] in lyrics field, words in brackets seen by the AI as a different than lyrics. That doesn't mean it never sings them but just generally.
  3. Some tags in brackets are deliberately boosted or added. [chorus] [verse] and some other tags (a list would be good...) had extra effort put in to try and get Chirp to pay more attention to them and work more reliably. Many other tags the AI learned by itself, though that doesn't mean they can't be surprisingly useful or even pretty reliable.
  4. Some common music styles had a little extra elbow grease too, not sure what. I think the big words, country, etc. Probably instruments? And reportedly more coming in next version, so more things that work sometimes now, should work most of the time.
blissful raven
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How do I keep multiple artists.. if it's a male and female.

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That started in the beginning

broken lotus
# blissful raven That started in the beginning

the last 10sec of a chirp are sampled to create the Continuation....

If your sound (whatever it is: singers, rhythms, tempo, bass) is not within the last 10sec, it will not carry over into the Continue ⏩ chirp.

There is always the option of regenerating 🔁 the lead-in chirp and hoping for the signature sound to be within the last 10sec..., but once the signature sound is 'lost' it won't come back. Chirp will create a new voice/groove/bass instead.

blissful raven
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Aww I see thanks

tulip niche
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/chirp

flint havenBOT
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merry saffron
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(The following has been translated from Chinese to English using ChatGPT, so some wording may be distorted.)

Hi, I'm a Taiwanese user who just started using Suno Ai a few days ago. I have three questions I'd like to ask:

The first question is that I've noticed generating longer music requires multiple iterations and merging.
However, if I generate music more than twice, it leads to a highly inconsistent style for the entire song.
Is there a command that can make Suno Ai generate a consistent style? For example, making the chorus have an identical style.

The second question is about generating more challenging Chinese songs.
It seems that Suno Ai may not be able to generate songs smoothly if it can't understand the meaning of the lyrics.
Sometimes, there's only background music without vocals.
Is there a way to address this issue?

The third question is, how can I give commands to specify a male or female vocal for generating music?

broken lotus
# merry saffron (The following has been translated from Chinese to English using ChatGPT, so som...

AI = 🎲

  1. Chirp samples the last 10 seconds of audio, to Continue ⏩ the next chirp. Your sound (singer voice, base, melody, drum pattern) must be heard inside the last 10 seconds of audio, or it will not carry over.

(next versions (?) are said to improve the context length, but no announcement when it will be ready for public)

  1. True. Lyrics help to style the music.

I have heard interesting results with lyrics that are just repeated gibberish or 'sound' words (Ahh-AAAHHHH-ahhh, AAAhh aah, aaahhh...)

Chirp doesn't need to understand the words to find music and rhythm, but the words can influence the style of song. Lyrics about strong emotions usually make the song sound similar. (sad, angry, love, happy...)

Chirp uses an LLM (like a chatGPT but smaller)... some language examples here https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1154780350749351977
English is probably the largest vocabulary in the bot, but music terms are often international (same word for every language)....

  1. Suno devs say the next version will be better at this, too.

Until the new version is released, it might work to type female singer, female singer, female singer in the genre description box... repeating the desired prompt a few times to make it 'stronger'.

merry saffron
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OK, thank you very much for your answer.

flint havenBOT
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graceful condor
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riffusion is doing a similar thing... will this ever be open source?

neat nexus
graceful condor
neat nexus
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It's definitely a riff but nothing to build on (yet).

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(The above is my personal opinion based on information at time of posting.)

graceful condor
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but will suno ever open source chirp like they did with bark?

neat nexus
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Who says they ever have to?

graceful condor
broken lotus
broken halo
broken halo
graceful condor
broken halo
floral gull
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Are there any plans on potentially allowing chirp to be installed locally similar to bark? I really prefer to use my own resources when experimenting with new software

viral lotus
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I am trying to generate "instrumentals". Does anyone have advice to share that would generate a consistent maximum generation [40seconds/30seconds]? Here is a prompt I used that generated one 40 second sample and one 11 second sample: [jazz instrumental 16 bars][jazz instrumental 16 bars][jazz instrumental 16 bars][jazz instrumental 16 bars][jazz instrumental 16 bars][jazz instrumental 16 bars][jazz instrumental 16 bars][jazz instrumental 16 bars][jazz instrumental 16 bars]
Style of Music
smooth jazz
OK not at all scientific, but what is the "correct" approach to maximize generation time?

spiral slate
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#audio-prompts

viral lotus
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#audio-prompts

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/#audio-prompts

viral lotus
broken lotus
# viral lotus I am trying to generate "instrumentals". Does anyone have advice to share that w...

I posted a bunch of instrumental here: #📚┃suno-school message

I make mostly instrumentals, and I end up rotating through some methods:

  • leave the Lyrics blank

  • [Instrumental] in Lyrics

  • [continue] in Lyrics

  • 'Instrumental' in Genre description

  • Genre and Lyrics blank on Continue

the MAIN TRICK is to be selective about the chirp you are continuing from... the last 10sec of that chirp is sampled to create the Continuation into the next chirp. The sounds, beats, instruments must be heard in that last 10 sec for t to carry over.

If that last 10 sec has a dip in volume or energy the next chirp often thinks its time to end the song. The last 10 sec might have a build-up of noise that will get worse in the next chirps.

  • [Break] in the Lyrics of the new chirp can help clear the continuation of the last chirp's noise and singing
broken lotus
compact nimbus
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/sing japanese singer Namie Amuro's songs

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/chirp

flint havenBOT
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neat nexus
# compact nimbus /sing japanese singer Namie Amuro's songs

As the bot informed you, you will need to perform this command in one of the chirp-beta-X channels or you can DM the bot to perform the command in private. Also the bot is not as smart as you think, if you wish it to perform one of those songs you will need to find the lyrics and give it to the bot in that singer's style.

Good luck! 😄

torn cloak
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/chirp

flint havenBOT
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merry saffron
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Hi, I have a question. After running the algorithm many times, I've finally created music that I like. However, the music ends in a strange place. Is there any command that can make it generate an outro without lyrics?

broken lotus
merry saffron
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OK thank you so much!

winged plaza
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/chirp

flint havenBOT
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neat nexus
open magnet
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😂

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chirp loves you

neat nexus
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Maybe?

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Because I wanted to ask, is there always a context window? By which I mean does Chirp hum the previous ten seconds to itself beginning a segment every time?

Because I had a few that just jumped in and started singing.

So yeah, maybe Chirp really does love me?

viral lotus
viral lotus
twin saddle
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at the start of a continuation usually

compact nimbus
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/chirp

flint havenBOT
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livid summit
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/chirp

flint havenBOT
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knotty kite
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I’m starting to think there are times where a stereo track vocal goes 90-100% phase out when converted to mono sometimes 🔊

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I don’t have headphones rn to test the phase but o keep noticing really quiet vocals

shell stirrup
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a friend of mine made this with chirp and i'm kind of disturbed lmfao

toxic palm
thin flint
# viral lotus /#audio-prompts

I don't think there's an audio prompts channel? I'm curious whether anyone has a guide of all the metatags that aren't document, E.G. [break], etc. Does [bridge] have any effect?

broken lotus
# thin flint I don't think there's an audio prompts channel? I'm curious whether anyone has a...

some of the metatags were re-enforced by training
[Verse] and [Chorus] specifically... according to some old Suno docs.

other 'metatags' are trial and error. It's an LLM (like chatGPT) so it understands a lot of words you throw at it..., but throw too much and it gets confused.

LOTS and LOTS of examples inside the chirp videos... and you can compare how well they worked against the music that actually plays...

try searching for your favorite genre.... see what other people tried....

in my experience [Break] and [Breakdown] often work, but there's no real 'memory' from chirp-to-chirp other than the last 10sec of the previous clip.

Using [chorus] should get you chorus-energy, but you won't get the same chorus a 2nd time....

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(I think [Bridge] works about as well as [Verse] and [Chorus] do... they help better than 50/50, but sometimes the AI does what it wants anyway)

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So I had ChatGPT write a song and I tried my best to combine clips. Interesting slight tempo change when I used [break] since the samples were starting to get a bit distorted.
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Not sure how to paste embeddable clips in here.

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What is the best way to get an instrumental break before the song properly starts, E.G. an instrumental intro followed by vocals so the song doesn't feel like it starts abruptly.

broken lotus
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broken lotus
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(might have to waste a few chirps until it does what you want)

graceful condor
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Idk why having a genre like “very heavy metal, upbeat, annoying” by itself works, but when I put lyrics that have the words “HATE” or “HATE YOU”, it trips up the filter

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I don’t get how that works but uhhhhh

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How in the world

marble gull
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/chirp

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does anyone know the tags which can be used to either change the songs vibe like if you repeat a word in (word) you hear it twice in like a echo but does anyone know every tag which can be used?

broken lotus
toxic palm
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//chirp

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That's what is so amazing about Chirp. The developers flat out admit they don't know how it suddenly started doing certain things but they have reinforced them when they happened, like you said. I think it's awesome that a large part of doing stuff is experimenting to see what Chirp will do.

This experimental stage is what I think gives our songs the life they have. It breathes something truly random into the act of creating a song. It's what seperates Chirp from so many of the other existing projects.

broken lotus
untold briar
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pure personal speculation just for fun, but often feels like Chirp (and bark) may be sneaking more information into the 10s than you think. maybe even quiet or unheard bits carry extra meaning even if you can't hear it. something analogous to these tokens, which seem at first to not be used in the output, but when you look closer you find https://twitter.com/TimDarcet/status/1707769575981424866

brave viper
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how do i change the ai singing into just silence and instrumental it seems like it keeps singing lol

untold briar
brave viper
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thank you so much! is there also a Possability for rap mostly to make the ai rap faster and then slower?

untold briar
# brave viper thank you so much! is there also a Possability for rap mostly to make the ai rap...

That one I'm not sure about, I think I saw people discussing speed changes maybe a day or so ago in here somewhere. You could try using regular style prompt + adding slow, slow or fast, fast to the end or something. Also in general longer prompts (more lines of lyrics and also more words on a single line of lyrics) tend to be sung faster than shorter prompts. Not a strong effect but could help

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oh if there is a typical music term for the genre of faster or slower style rap that would better than just fast or slow, probably

brave viper
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thanks!

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any tag for just the vocal only and no background noise?

open lichen
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00000000

open magnet
wraith flax
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Cant seem to keep the same singers voice and tone from each continue, i leave the category and just change the words after clicking continue and its voice and tone is changed, if i fill in the same category it also changes. What am i doing wrong or is this a useless program past 40 seconds?

broken lotus
broken halo
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I tried to type lyrics in Japanese, well the results were... bad. It's just an instrumental

broken lotus
# broken halo

can't see your full genre description... Did you include a description of the vocals or singer there?

2nd chirp has started singing. Do you want to try Continue ⏩ and see if the 2nd chirp is ready to sing the words?

covert cloak
broken halo
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Also i ran out of chirps

broken lotus
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You didn't say a singer either. 🤔
That might make a difference

broken halo
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Sometimes when i continue a more meaningful lyrics on a a clip with a lyrics like "lalalala" and anything like that, it just repeats

broken lotus
neat nexus
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Has anyone managed to figure out a way to get Chirp to keep a beat vocally?

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I was showing my Dad my version of a song which was in the public domain and he said that since it was missing that vocal intonation it really wasn't the song any more and felt flat.

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I mean...I like my variation of it.

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But he's right.

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So any idea how to fix this?

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It's this classic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fun7CBPyeRk

Get beyond the opening "Tweedle-lee-deedle-lee-dee" section for an understanding of what I'm talking about.

YouTube
Oldies Zone
Bobby Day - Rockin' Robin

Bobby Day performing Rockin' Robin, his classic hit song from 1958. Rockin' Robin tells the tale of a lively and cheerful bird who loves to rock and roll, with a catchy melody and upbeat lyrics. With Rockin' Robin, Bobby Day invites listeners to join in on the fun and dance along with the bird as it sings its heart out.

Bobby Day's rendition o...

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The thing that really stuck in my craw though was when he compared my version to Pat Boone's version of Alice Cooper's I'm Eighteen.

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Not a good look for me.

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So any ideas (other than waiting for the next version and hoping it's there) on how to fix this?

broken lotus
neat nexus
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I feel sometimes that there are certain vocal rythmns that I either don't know how to access or am doing it wrong.

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Of course, I'm a sucker for a good voal rhythmn.

broken lotus
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... rockabilly ...?

neat nexus
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Editing screwed me up... ate my text. 😭

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I called out as examples of vocal rhythms I am fond of and gave Red Hot Chili Pepper's Souls to Squeeze song, and the Wham! Everything She Wants song as examples.

broken lotus
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.. rhythmic handclaps and fingersnaps...?

(writing that one down to try)

neat nexus
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It's a vocal beat.

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He rocks in the treetop all the day long

Hoppin' and a-boppin' and a-singin' his song

All the little birds on Jay Bird Street

Love to hear the robin go tweet tweet tweet

broken lotus
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break up the wur-ur-urds

neat nexus
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I have.

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Doesn't always help.

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Especially when there's a flow like this.

broken lotus
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[Elvis]

neat nexus
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Definitely an inspiration. I'll let you decide who inspired who. 🙄

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As a genre? Hmmm...

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I know they say that there are no performers as styles but sometimes it does seem to do something

broken lotus
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it seems to work better on names that are >30yrs ago

neat nexus
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steals this

broken lotus
sullen wren
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Guys, should i describe tempo and music key to generate a song here?

neat nexus
# broken lotus 🥹

I'm sure it can do something but so far I don't seem to be triggering this at all. 😦

neat nexus
neat nexus
broken lotus
broken lotus
neat nexus
sullen wren
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I see. I wish guitar pro can produce realistic sound like this lol

broken lotus
neat nexus
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Forgive me if I take a bit to come back to this, I've hopped aboard the Bang a Gong sound and am riding it to see where it goes. Literally making it up as I go.

broken lotus
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[cosmic surfer gif]

neat nexus
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Think I'm going to stop this one here. Kept getting noise added to it and mucking about with the instruments wasn't really helping.

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I suspect the handclaps and the fingersnaps may have doomed me from the start.

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Either that or the "Elvis" did.

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(Doesn't sound like an Elvis I've heard...)

compact rivet
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/chirp

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light heart
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I would like to continue my own song I made

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I have the entire project file of the song I made

broken lotus
steady void
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/harbor

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/chirp meta

late tendon
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/chirp

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gentle glade
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/chirp

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atomic turtle
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Hi, if I buy Pro Plan 10$, do I still get 50 credits per day for free?

untold briar
graceful condor
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/chirp

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real lantern
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/chirp

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obsidian lintel
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Hi, is there a way to get the ai to make an ending for a song rather than just stopping?

neat nexus
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One thing people do is create a part with an [outro] tag in the lyrics field to give it some space in the song to play off the ending. Then they do a final segment and spam the lyrics field with [fade out].

obsidian lintel
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I tried the outro tag with no luck but not tried the fade out that’s a good idea thanks man

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Will give it a go

knotty kite
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Please fix the buttons. I cant continue

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neat nexus
knotty kite
rocky scroll
merry saffron
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Hi, I'd like to ask a question. I've written a song with 4 lines of Verse and 4 lines of Chorus, and the generated music is slow-paced. It ends at the middle of the Verse. Is there a command I can use to make it continue generating based on the original content rather than starting over?

broken lotus
tropic sigil
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Приор

latent canyon
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I was wondering if there was a way to change the vocalist from male to female between versues for a duet?

open magnet
rare grove
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Dansong2023

graceful condor
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/info

fallen crystal
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is the service ok today?

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It's really slow today

gaunt skiff
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Why is chirp bot stuck at the pre-generation/lyrics phase? when attempting to generate more/regenerate I am told to wait for jobs to finish.

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Has been over 10 minutes

terse flame
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Having issues myself. Also noted that "Death Metal" as a style was flagged as a prompt. I'd not had that problem the last time I tried that style for something halloweenish. style censorship? booo!

latent canyon
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Is there a way to keep the voice from changing or remember the same voice from one continuation?

neat nexus
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Yes.

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Try to always be concious of the ten second window that Chirp has for everything. If your voice is outside that context it will be altered.

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It's why I always try to maintain shorter lyric submissions.

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Do too much or end with a music note that is too far away and you lose the voice.

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My Dad and I were working on this for a bit when I was showing him how the system worked. He wanted to end it and then had a last line. So I showed him how having too much music between a vocal would cause the vocals to distort and mutate.

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Still a funny song and I definitely intend to see if I can finish it.

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I was happy with how this sounded at first but then I realized I would never get back to the music with this one because the window had passed.

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Going to try to reuse those lyrics though, since I think they still have potential.

open magnet
neat nexus
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Since Chirp won't let me continue my song, here is what I had with the busted part I was trying to replace added instead of my continuation where Chirp wasn't hallucinating...

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shadow wave
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слышь а че

latent canyon
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Is there a way to pick the image or change the image that pops up with the music?

neat nexus
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Nah, that's automatically generated.

cerulean oxide
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How do you upgrade?

broken lotus
jade shore
broken lotus
earnest mantle
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several of the jobs I submitted disappeared before they processed...is this a known issue?

lapis osprey
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Having some server issues today? Chirps are taking forever or disappearing altogether...paid subscrber

light ether
lapis osprey
light ether
hushed tulip
broken lotus
digital jungle
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I'm trying to upload my song to Music Diffusion to publish it but I'm getting "Audio analysis issues"

digital jungle
broken lotus
digital jungle
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No, it's saying it recognizes parts of the music if that makes sense. It was citing specific areas that "matched"

broken lotus
digital jungle
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yes but I didn't capture it and can't find it now

broken lotus
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M'kay... tbh this sounds like a Music Diffusion problem.

surreal spire
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I've put in the lyrics but I only got music back. Does that happen often?

neat nexus
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I don't know about often but it does happen sometimes. All you can do is reroll\and adjust a few things in hopes it helps.

surreal spire
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Thank you. Do I need athe square brackets to indicate [Verse] and [Chorus]?

neat nexus
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You don't have to do it but does seem to help guide things a bit.

surreal spire
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thanks a lot!

brittle wadi
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Hi how to replicate voices like Like /trump /biden

worldly narwhal
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Anyone have any tips for acapelllas that are good. Most of the time its almost atonal or just terrible

open magnet
unique dome
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I'd also recommend using a cappella instead of acapella — didn't realize it was technically spelled that way and have personally seen better results once I switched my tags to that spelling

pale mountain
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/chirp

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sharp field
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/chip

digital jungle
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is there a way to control the speed or am I able to insert a pause, where I want it? Some lines seem to rush through them.

broken lotus
neat nexus
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Absolutely this!

Chirp is sometimes like a child with a school assignment of a certain length that is overdue. They begin to write in larger text as the paper goes on to fill it up quickly. Chirp will do music and start singing and suddenly realize they're almost out of time. At this point it will speed up trying to make it all fit and ruin the song.

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Piece by piece is the best way to go.

digital jungle
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I love this and am a HUGE supporter~

fathom plinth
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Is there something like a seed value, which you could use to bring back a certain style that you liked on a new song? Something more specific than the genre?

broken lotus
thin flint
neat nexus
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Four, usually is as long as I'll willingly go.

This is complicated by my habit of breaking the lyrics into shorter sections too.

So while it may only be four lines, I could break them into shorter ones.

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You can see what I mean by that.

digital jungle
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/chirp

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digital jungle
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not working in the channel. no pop up

thin flint
thin flint
dusty moss
thin flint
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Interesting. I have Reaper but haven't really learned it.

dusty moss
lament stag
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/chirp

neat nexus
paper furnace
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guys, can someone tell me, where I can see the amount of my credits?

daring lava
paper furnace
daring lava
paper furnace
# daring lava Happy to help!

and can u tell me pls, how can i change a basic plan to something other? "Mange your account" button dont do any 😦

daring lava
thin flint
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Not directly Suno related but I just made a new Suno track and uploaded it to Youtube. I made a Youtube thumbnail for it inside ChatGPT but Youtube, as of the last few songs, hasn't accepted the thumbnails at all. They're PNGs, an accepted thumbnail type...

paper furnace
daring lava
daring lava
paper furnace
daring lava
# paper furnace just “sign in” changes to “sign up”, and so on in a circle...

That’s weird. Seems to be working well on my end. Try this…

  1. Update Your Browser: Please ensure you’re using the most up-to-date version of the browser you are using.

  2. Browser Extensions and Cache: Extensions can sometimes cause unexpected behavior. Try disabling them or switch to incognito mode which disables most extensions by default. Also, clearing your browser’s cache removes temporary files that may be causing issues.

  3. Stable Internet Connection: A consistent and speedy internet connection is crucial for any upload or export tasks. If you’re on Wi-Fi, consider a wired connection, or at least ensure your signal is strong and stable.

  4. Reset Discord

paper furnace
marble anchor
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How do I get a chirp longer than 30 seconds?

broken lotus
digital jungle
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is the server down? /chirp isn't working in the beta-1 channel

unique dome
neat nexus
broken lotus
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🙌 Chirp is back! 🙌

neat nexus
eager sand
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not for me yet :/

digital jungle
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why does the pitch of the voice keep going up with continues?

broken lotus
surreal spire
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I know this was probably asked million times but What is the quality of the Chirp music? (compared to a 128kbps MP3)

ember gyro
neat nexus
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So better than radio but worse then CD.

hushed swift
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vocal start so late all the time how can fix that

atomic turtle
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Is it possible to use famous synth sounds e.g. Synthesizer Roland JV-1080 -patch Bass Pizz ( e.g. Faithless -Insomnia was made by using this one)

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would like to have same kind of vibe to my song

broken lotus
atomic turtle
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Just low level blur sound

open magnet
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broken lotus
# atomic turtle Just low level blur sound

i've never gotten anything useable when prompting for a 'synthesizer'....

My theory is that 'synthesizer' is just not a well-defined concept that is easily explained to a language model (AI is already 'synthesizing' everything: voices, instruments, percussion....)

A dev told me this is probably more an issue with the (small) language model than the generative AI's ability to make sounds, and might improve as the LLM is updated.

I have better than 50/50 results describing an instrument and the quality of playing:

sparse plucked balalaika syncopated glass marimba electric bass arpeggio fingerstyle acoustic guitar

etc

lean grail
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Hi. Why i have "this prompt has been flagged?"

neat nexus
# lean grail Hi. Why i have "this prompt has been flagged?"

It could be an issue of the lyrics being too long or it could be that you've used a word or two that was considered naughty by the AI content moderator. Let me check and see if anything is listed so I can try to tell you which one it may be.

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....

OK nothing is coming up in the feed under your name. Were you using any words commonly considered to be "swear" words or words known to trigger ChatGPT style AIs? I had one song get flagged for the word "stupid" in it so it can be that basic.

round shell
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hi

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I have a question

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I subscribe 1 year for pro

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I think it is not applied yet

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because I cannot chirp anymore

light ether
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hi, is there a chance you logged into web on a different email or discord? Just email us at billing@suno.ai with your discord handle and your email for payment and we’ll get it fixed for you!

light ether
round shell
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OK thanks

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I emailed it works in web but not working in discord.

light ether
round shell
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It is OK I can wait no problem

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because this is really cool.

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now it works thank you for your cooperation.

merry saffron
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Hi, I have a question. I'm writing a fast-paced song, and I want the generated music to have an intro in the first half. What command should I use?

neat nexus
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[intro]

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[melodic instrumental]

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[fast paced melody]

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You could try that?

sly ice
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/chirp

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hushed tulip
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Hi guys! Is there a way to easily generate a continuation that matches exactly the melody and rhythm of, let's say, a chorus that was cut off in the first generation? Especially if that first generation had the last 10 seconds clearly defined, or do you have to just keep generating until you get lucky? I cannot get the same "flow" of the last 2 lines of the chorus Example:

broken lotus
hushed tulip
light ether
hushed tulip
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It would be great if there were a feature to "block" the instrumental intro when the lyrics consist of 4-8 lines. The instrumental intro could be limited to a maximum of 10 seconds to ensure ample space for, let's say, the verse and chorus. In the example I uploaded above, the instrumental lasts for 18 seconds—quite a lot! This excessive length encroached upon the space needed for the final two lines of the chorus. Those extra 8 seconds could have easily accommodated the remaining lines. Additionally, it would be excellent to have a "backward continuation" clip generator, allowing users to extend the instrumental intro introduced in the clip with lyrics. Furthermore, having the ability to create an exact copy of the "chorus" with the option to add more elements, creating a sense of growth, would be a cool feature. The structure remains the same, but with additional elements subtly layered in the background.

light ether
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Just so long as it stays optional. While sometimes I don't like how long my intros are I do like my instrumentals...

graceful condor
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/chirp

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graceful condor
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/chirp

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Another awesome feature would be a browser for every publicly generated clip, allowing users to search by keyword or line lengths. For instance, you could search for something like "nostalgic" or a combination like "nostalgic, rock, soaring male vocal," and instantly get all the related results. It would also include a ranking system for the most frequently used keywords. This way, people could grasp the kind of results they can expect with specific keywords, discovering the most effective ones. Plus, it adds a fun element to exploration, leading to better results with fewer random generations. Something in the style of Midjourney.

light ether
hushed tulip
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The next cool feature could involve matching the style or vibe of a song by uploading, let's say, 30 seconds of audio. The AI would then give it a shot, doing its best within the database constraints to align the generated song with the original file. This would be especially helpful for those wanting to recreate a specific style without dealing with complex, vague descriptions. However, the potential issue with copyrighted music is uncertain; this suggestion is to explore whether it would be allowed. Another feature I'd love to see is a "slight/stronger variation" remix mode using a seed. You provide a seed from a specific clip generation, and the AI takes a swing at remixing it. It would work similarly to continuation, except that you can either remix the entire clip or choose a specific time to make a subtle, more significant change, or introduce something completely different, all while keeping the rest intact. This would be incredibly helpful because there are times when you absolutely love the first part, while the second is just meh, and you really don't want to continue from that.

gloomy belfry
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/chirp

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plush birch
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Hi! Assume it's totally cool to upload the Chirp songs to Instagram/social etc yes?

vital orchid
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Is there a list of tags for structure available. I saw [chorus] and [verse] mentioned. Is there something like intro, outro, instrumental ?

broken lotus
cobalt stirrup
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I paid for subscription, but bot still says "You don't have enough credits to use this command."

broken lotus
unique dome
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Yep please drop us a line there if you're still running into this problem after checking wetcircuit's tips, and we'll get you back up and running

tall gust
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hello there ! do you know if i can use a seed command ? as an example, i have a generation that i like a lot, nearly perfect, and i wanted to know if i can redirect the continuation of the sequence to keep the same tempo, the same voice, or even the same rythm

neat nexus
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You could always try leaving a message in #💡┃suggestions-web to show there is continued interest in this feature?

graceful condor
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how to one improve sound quality? SUNO has better sound quality, but when genereted on discord server sample rate is low

neat nexus
open magnet
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random field
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If you purchase a subscription on the suno website and get credits are you allowed to use them here on the discord or only the website?

broken lotus
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Type /info to check your tokens here.

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(popup widow only you can see)

light ether
hallow nexus
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I have a question, is there any way I can somehow ask the AI to create a remix of a certain melody?

heady coyote
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Is it possible to change language of the generated songs?

tall gust
inner steeple
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I'm guessing the website version of chirp doesn't let you feed the seed either?

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I'm under impression that chirp uses bark under the hood, but with special model, right?

broken lotus
inner steeple
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getting seed would be so good, because it would open so many possibilities for small tweaks

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I'm aware it won't gen the exact same thing, but at least on regular Bark (I've used it locally here), you can often change individual words and still get overall same'ish result for the whole thing

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when getting some cool things on chirp, it often messes up individual words in some places, so could try to correct them with slight prompt change while using same seed

heavy terrace
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Is it possible to use our own lyrics with the new model right now or is that not available yet? I was gonna check the site later tonight when I am on my pc but if it's not there yet I will wait to test it

broken lotus
heavy terrace
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Ok, I will have to wait for a while then, thanks for the reply!

inner steeple
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oh

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chirp v2 is actually stereo

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(it's been mono so far)

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just realized this by playing some clip on the showcase channel

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I don't really hear huge difference on the audio quality itself but stereo effect does has spatial effect on the output

placid gorge
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could be neat to have the option between the two

inner steeple
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v2 still misses on the clarity of say, stable audio.. but I can't make stable audio produce any music that sounds even slightly interesting 😶

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I wonder what the actual true sample rate currently is

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I know these get stored at 48kHz but there's nowhere near that range used, or alternatively things get muffled by the procedure otherwise

broken lotus
inner steeple
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resamping the output to 24kHz on audacity has minimal impact on audio quality

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it does change the output slightly though

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32kHz does too but I can't hear any the difference between 32 and 48

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this depends a lot on the track too

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so I guess they may use 48kHz range for real, but it just gets the distortion and bit muffled sound from other reasons

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this is especially noticeable on any music genre that actually has distortion on the instruments

placid gorge
broken lotus
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🤔 📝

inner steeple
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is the chatgpt template for the lyrics gen using chirp known?

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mainly wondering if it is something super simple like write {prompt} lyrics or if it's way more detailed

placid gorge
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Theres probably some line thing that says 8 lines max or smthing

inner steeple
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it's actually quite hard to make chatgpt obey that kind of instruction

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but they could just crop it manually too

placid gorge
inner steeple
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the reason I ask about this is because if I know the whole template, I can hack around it and force it to feed my own lyrics... and get the try that v2 early on 😁

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but I also don't know if they limit the chatgpt input field length on chirp

placid gorge
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I mean it could be using its own version of GPT and not ChatGPT :>

inner steeple
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I basically mean this here

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this would work if the template is write {prompt} lyrics and you'd just fill in that middle part as instruction

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it should work on any LLM really that is able to follow the instructions

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but chirp could just cap the description short

somber cloak
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How do you continue to expand a song in the website version?

untold briar
somber cloak
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Thanks for the info. Is it true the website is using a new version of the bot?

inner steeple
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the website version has audio only version that is way higher fidelity than the one with video

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...why

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there's huge quality difference here

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this is due to mp3 vs aac compression on the audio. it's not even about bitrate

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avg bitrate on audio is the same on both, but AAC is NOTABLY worse, it especially trashes the high end hihats and like

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even mp3 is 128 kb/s which suggests that the actual gen without compression or with higher bitrate compression would be way higher fidelity

inner steeple
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you can clearly hear the difference from first second

broken lotus
# inner steeple ...why

I'm going to do a frame challenge and say 'so what.' 🤷‍♀️

The video is for sharing on social media, where the majority of people are on a phone with speakers the size of a pinhead.

If you intend to do edits or want the better quality audio, why would anyone download an mp4 if there is an audio track available?

I disagree that it is 'night and day'

Open the waveforms in any DAW you can see they are not very different,
....but sure no one is contesting that a social media video with a different compression sounds slightly different...

I still say 'So what." just download the mp3 for yourself. It's a smaller file anyway.

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inner steeple
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I dunno, almost everyone I've played chirp gens make a note about it's bad audio quality, but they are impressed about it's creativity

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and I do know the main audio quality issue is the distortion

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you get that from that bad compression

broken lotus
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😒 My 'experts' all agree....

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LOL

inner steeple
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I also wonder if there are some devices that can't play that mp3 audio track when muxed to the video

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because... it takes exactly same space

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just sounds way better

broken lotus
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yes. AAC operates with less overhead. It's also rated better at lower bitrates (possibly lower than this), so yes.

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the video should have BROADEST compatibility.
(work on a potato phone on the worst web browser)
the audio should be HIGHEST available quality.
(we don't get WAV... so, mp3 it is)

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this is how it appears to be.

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(obv I did not sit in the room when these decisions were made, but creating content that plays across all social media is an exercise in sacrificing quality for compatibility)

snow robin
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/CHIRP

flint havenBOT
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The /chirp command is not available in this channel

Go to the #🐣┃chirp-beta-1 channel to use the /chirp command, and check out the #🐣┃how-to-chirp channel for step-by-step instructions for making music using Chirp on Discord.

inner steeple
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I get why no WAV, it's notable difference in file size, obviously I'd prefer that too, but I do see the issue on bandwidth, storage etc when used in service at this scope

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FLAC is probably too niche to even consider

untold briar
# inner steeple and I do know the main audio quality issue is the distortion

Absolute better to get as raw audio output as we can, but for the curious here, the distortion is most cases (the kind that gets worse over time) likely isn't from bad audio codec compression, you can see it even in Bark setting output to raw wav, it's more fundamental to AI in general and how transformers tend to accumulate errors, you can see it commercial voices like 11 labs, you can see it in ChatGPT, etc. You can see it diffusion audio models too, interestingly https://arxiv.org/pdf/2308.02560.pdf

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inner steeple
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so 320kbs mp3 is easiest compromize we could get atm

inner steeple
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there's notable audio compression artifact from the first videos AAC compression

untold briar
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Might be just an ffmpeg flag that isn't set quite right or something, it should have plenty of bitrate

inner steeple
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both have same avg bitrate, videos aac audio track and mp3

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when I muxed the mp3 to same video, it's the same file size

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mp3 is just superior in quality between the two

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not saying you are incorrect, it could be bad compression setting

untold briar
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Right, but AAC should be better if anything. So maybe there is like a bug or something? If so would be easy fix. Whereas offering .wav as a third optino probably takes programmer time. Just total guessing

inner steeple
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hmmm, apparently M4A can do lossless ALAC too

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apple seems to use this format, so it's probably somewhat well supported

broken lotus
inner steeple
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ah, I was more of thinking this for option to get lossless audio download

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it wouldn't have to play on every device

broken lotus
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but why pack it in an MP4?

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(no offense to the people that programmed the lyrics video)

inner steeple
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I imagine the uncompressed stereo 48kHz wav file size is nontrivial matter when people use it for this many songs

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that being said, I don't know if Suno still stores the uncompressed audio once the gen is finished but I doubt it

broken lotus
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what I mean is, we could just download an audio file in whatever compression scheme...
Or if it uses it's own file type, just download that...
we don't need it inside a video slideshow - that's extra steps to compress, extra steps to demux...

inner steeple
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yes

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I could see benefit of only having high quality audio file without any extras

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I imagine the video is there to spread awareness of the service tho

broken lotus
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No one needs Aunt Edna accidentally posting a 1400MB 1min goof song to her fb group... lol

inner steeple
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I only want as high fidelity version as possible, regardless how it's shipped 😄

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my surprise on the video vs audio quality here is because the audio track is literally the same size on both but video sounds worse

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I didn't realize there was difference between these atm

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so, thanks for pointing out that browser site

broken lotus
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Compression doesn't work like that...

if you look at benchmarks, different compressors have sweetspots where they are better, but at other settings there is little difference (or even worse)

the reason for AAC is web compatibility, which might also include specific bitrate settings.

It's really rare when you can take advantage of 'best' compression schemes, just cherrypicking audio and video compressors and rates for best quality.

normally the goal is
a. compatibility
b. filesize
c. compression time
d. decompression overhead
...
z. quality

inner steeple
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I did look around and general opinion does seem to be that AAC is supposedly better quality in general to MP3 when comparing same bitrate.. so there's something just off here right now

broken lotus
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it's def possible.
one issue (not claiming I know better) might be the time it takes to compress the file. a single pass might be 'good enough' where as a double-pass might be better quality but take more than 2x to compress....

they are providing 2 'songs' in <2min... Suno seems proud of that stat. lol

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🤔 idk if that's an 'live' stat that is an estimate of real eta...

torpid plover
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What words can’t be used in a lyric? I am getting flagged for using a few run of the mill swear words in a metal song

neat nexus
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That can easily be gotten around at this time.

fiery sinew
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Vocal processing needs definitely tuning. Especially s-sounds are too much compressed. I'd prefer uncompressed song data, but I understand the technical issues. A good compromise could be less compressed and focus in vocals, more natural hearing.

light ether
patent sage
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hi my credits doesn`t work, why?

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only in the website, doesn´t work on discord

placid gorge
jaunty jewel
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Does anyone know how to generate pure music using chirp?

placid gorge
neat nexus
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  • leave the Lyrics text blank
  • use [Instrumental] in the lyrics instead of lyrics
  • use Instrumental in the genre text

(text reposted from an original post by wetcircuit)

untold quarry
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how to make 3min track

neat nexus
broken lotus
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Has anyone had success in generating a 'deep' male voice?

I have not had success with 'soprano' or 'baritone' – these don't seem to be words Chirp understands.

'Bass' gives me the instrument Bass.

neat nexus
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Webapp or Discord version?

broken lotus
neat nexus
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One last attempt and I give up on this and concede you must be right.

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(Granted all my tests were in Discord.)

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Ahahahaha! I did it! 😄

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( I may have been thinking of Ike Turner when I was generataing, hence the lyrics.)

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Let me know if you can replicate it.

fiery sinew
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You have changed the compressing level? Vocals sounds much more natural than yesterday.

neat nexus
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Actually, trying the webapp, I don't know if it pays any attention to directives on voices.

broken lotus
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☹️ webapp is not reliable for genre or instrument prompts...

neat nexus
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For testing purposes I gave ChatGPT the lyrics and used the music style as: soul, funk, deep rumbling velvet male vocals in the Discord version, of course.

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After that I'll test it with the lyrics above in a different genre to see how it goes.

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May have been luck.

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Not getting it again.

broken lotus
neat nexus
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Testing now to see.

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Switched to rock and roll plus deep rumbling velvet male vocals

broken lotus
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suggesting it knows what you want...
(and maybe we are limited to bark voices?)

neat nexus
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Pondering.

broken lotus
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ungh... Discord prompt is so much bettererer 😭

I tried 16th-note arpeggio electric bass on Discord... perfect every time... (not a perfect song, but I got it 100%)

neat nexus
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Trying deep velvet male vocals, since I was getting rumbling bass. I suspect you're right though and we have located a limitation. 😦

broken lotus
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I mean..., if we could prompt for specific voices (by name)... that would be hecka useful....

neat nexus
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Quick, add Ike Turner model voices!

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Limits must be smashed!

broken lotus
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(i need to pay a 10yr old to clone this)

neat nexus
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lulz

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Yeah Barry White would be better.

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Or Turbo B, from Snap!

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I extended it a bit. I like it but I don't know if I want to be the voice of Ike Turner...sounded kind of cool though.

broken lotus
neat nexus
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It wouldn't surprise me if you did. I was more referring to the perspective I was doodling the lyrics from.

I don't want to be trying to see things from that man's POV about ..well just about anything, really.

graceful condor
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Sorry for not getting this... how do I change language for generated songs? Just typing in the language doesn't cut it. I can't find where to switch preferences

neat nexus
blissful raven
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write 10/12 lines about [Prompt] in v2 sometimes the song will end with outro instrumentals

undone creek
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Is there any way to keep a voice/style and make a new chirp with it?

placid gorge
solemn edge
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Any tips to get a voice change mid song it has gotten to scream and I want it a little more calm

placid gorge
graceful condor
# neat nexus Are you trying to do a dual language song?

Thanks for your reply. No a single language song. When registering to this channel I was asked for my preference language. I can not find the setting and only typing the Ai request in another language gets translated to English.

surreal yew
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HELP PLASE

broken lotus
fossil rune
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Hi. I have an active subscruption. But bot says there is no left coins

neat nexus
fossil rune
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@neat nexus info says I have used all coins, but according to subscription I have 2530 coins

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warm widget
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i need some guidance. I'm helping a musician. He wants to upload 100 of his original songs. Then have AI copy his songwriting style and voice to make new songs. Where do I start?

neat nexus
broken lotus
neat nexus
warm widget
neat nexus
warm widget
solemn edge
graceful condor
graceful condor
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@broken lotus it does Swedish but with half the song only instrumental. Also 1 of 4 translates back to english.

Don't know how deep you are in to this. Don't want to be a bother. Just trying to give proper feedback 🙂 over all it's awesome

jade mist
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When are they expanding the 40 second limit? I mean bark is like 6 months old and it still has the 15 second limit, so i'm not so sure if they really will expand the limit of Chirp any time soon... hopefully i'm wrong.

blissful raven
jade mist
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HWhen did the webapp get released? Last week it was only on discord...

broken lotus
broken lotus
graceful condor
broken lotus
# graceful condor Discord on Android phone

Ahh! so you should be able to just type in your native language... in the large text box, add your own lyrics.

(leave the ChatGPT box empty, that is the only thing I can guess would try to translate..., )

pulsar dagger
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Hello. Please, help me with one question - can I create songs more longer than 40 sec? Is it for subscribers only?

jade mist
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They will expand this in the future, V2 at first it's now 1:20 and they will expand it

graceful cliff
inner steeple
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what are the current credit top up offers for pro and premier?

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you'd think those would be visible on the subscription page before you sub but they aren't

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(so it's hard to make educated decision between the two subs, on which is better suited for you)

broken lotus
inner steeple
broken lotus
inner steeple
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tbh, current free tier is bit too good in comparison to pro tier (150 vs 250 monthly chirps), but premier does look interesting.. if the top ups had similar rate to monthly sub amounts, pro would be more appealing in general

somber cloak
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Is there still no info when suno bot will be update to the web site version?

light ether
somber cloak
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thanks

winter bison
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@light ether are u planing to create a paper about the chirp models?

light ether
winter bison
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😭 i guess thats a no

tepid wedge
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Hmm, how do I generate a song with lyrics I chose on the website?

placid gorge
tepid wedge
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nice!

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looking forward

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the song quality is SUPER high

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this is a big, big, BIG step up

tepid wedge
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@light ether I have a few ideas to improve the UX on your site.

  1. Include the original prompt or add a button that allows us to recall that prompt somehow. That way I can take a prompt, repost it, and edit it a little as needed if I forget to copy and paste it.
  2. Option to delete the shittier songs? Some are just, y'know, bad.
  3. LOVE the AI art style you chose, but make a way to click and expand it so we can see it at a higher resolution.
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  1. Unless I'm missing something, maybe if we download the audio, the AI art can appear for that song as album art inside the metadata?
light ether
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Super!

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  1. Since its good data for us, we are thinking about making heart like / dislike. Would that work? Then we can just have an option to hide dislikes somewhere.. Or do you want to nuke them from orbit?
light ether
placid gorge
tepid wedge
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it condenses the song to a tiny "hidden song" line

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easy to skip over

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but you can pop it back in if you want to check

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maybe something like "Hidden Song [Short description here]"

placid gorge
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Btw my clips does this already

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tepid wedge
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so you can at a glance say "Oh yeah that's that shitty song I hid where Wallace and Gromit serenade each other"

placid gorge
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also on the create page after 10 generations it starts getting rid of them from the page and makes em only seen in clips

tepid wedge
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btw, what are you using to generate the lyrics? gpt3.5? 4?

tepid wedge
placid gorge
light ether
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Ah yeah we will fix that eventually to

tepid wedge
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sick

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pretty happy with this one 😄

winter bison
vernal glacier
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a song with 80s wave style Talking about movie actors and their movies

unique dome
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Would love to hear how it turns out

gilded needle
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does/will chirp have an API in the future?

daring lava
heady egret
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New to this app. Is there a way to prompt suno on the webapp (or in discord for that matter) in a way that guides genre primarily, rather than lyrics? Is there a way to prompt it in a way that will mostly avoid lyrics?

When the program is creating a song, are the instrumentals and voice separate generative models, or are they tied together?

open magnet
jolly plume
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i already subcribe for Suno pro but in discort still free accout. what went wrong?

open magnet
jovial junco
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any tips on how to stop the AI putting the "genre" in the lyrics? like, I want an aggressive rap or whatever and the AI will put that on the lyrics

meager flint
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If I like a song, any way to get it to complete the full song vs. being cut off at 1.2 mins?

jade mist
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I imagine once they inplement the own lyrics feature, they will also extend the duration to let's say 2 minutes since they're constantly working on extending the duration, as they say.

nova igloo
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what i would love to see most is a way to take one of the generations and be able to tell suno to cut the song at a specific point, and then continue from that point, rather than only being able to continue from the very end.
some of my generations are amazing for the first half, but unravel near the end, and I'd love to tell it to continue from the best part so it keeps the same flow and style

normal grove
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Is there a way to continue a song made a few days ago, it was generated through the website before I started using it through Discord

pulsar dagger
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Hello! I need help.
I buy PRO plan on website, but discord-chanel still give me just 5 generation per day.
How can I associate my account on website with discord?

broken lotus
hard topaz
twilit sentinel
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/chirp

flint havenBOT
#
The /chirp command is not available in this channel

Go to the #🐣┃chirp-beta-1 channel to use the /chirp command, and check out the #🐣┃how-to-chirp channel for step-by-step instructions for making music using Chirp on Discord.

fiery sinew
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3 minute song!

neat nexus
white vapor
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Okay, I have a good clip going, but how do I get chirp to close out the song?

inner steeple
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[outro]

inner steeple
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can use it with or without lyrics, but it may also gen some nonsense lyrics there if you don't give it any

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but yeah, you never know what you'll get 😁

neat nexus
graceful condor
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/chirp

flint havenBOT
#
The /chirp command is not available in this channel

Go to the #🐣┃chirp-beta-1 channel to use the /chirp command, and check out the #🐣┃how-to-chirp channel for step-by-step instructions for making music using Chirp on Discord.

white vapor
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Thanks! Yeah, just giving [outro] got some nonsense lyrics. One of the gens had a lyric that had been repeated a lot in the song so that was ok. But sadly the best one got cut short. Will have to play around with it more when I have more credits 😅

neat nexus
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That can happen. It's even worse when it happens in a perfect section of audio. Everything is great and then...WTF??? Where did that come from??? LOL

white vapor
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Final clip. Very rough sounding, but was the best gens I could get before running out. I think it starts out pretty good but seems to lose focus on the rhythm

I see it does understand tags to an extent, but it really doesn't seem to understand what a "chorus" is lol

inner steeple
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chorus tag is pretty mixed bag right now, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I've also tried [pre-chorus] on previous verse but you can't really tell if it's just coincidence it put the chorus in right place at that point 😄

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[bridge] also seems to work

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(not for chorus but in general)

placid gorge
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[Outro] also works :)

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The only thing i Wish existed was [Breakdown] or smthing similar

clever depot
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is it possible to specifically ask for an instrumental song without vocals?

placid gorge
clever depot
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web

placid gorge
# clever depot web

Try in the genre part of the prompt adding Instrumental with the rest of them

clever depot
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I tried it, but it still generarated lyrics and vocals, even though the genre shows up as "ambient soothing instrumental"

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web always generates two songs. often one with a langth of 40 seconds and one with a length of 80 seconds. is the 40 seconds one V1 and the 80 seconds song V2?

neat nexus
clever depot
neat nexus
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If they're trying to keep both song options the same length. As far as I know it is supposed to be a situation where both options in the generation are v2 chirps.

clever depot
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I assume it's A/B testing to see how much more likes V2 gets compared to V1

neat nexus
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@light ether is it A/B testing on the webapp or are they supposed to both be v2 chirps?

light ether
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no - they are both v2, but it could be a quirk with instrumentals

clever depot
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it's definitely the most impressive music AI I ever tried out. really impressive how it can actually do lyrics. and how it can even somewhat do obscure genres like black metal, even if they come out significantly worse than more common genres

light ether
clever depot
light ether
clever depot
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so is the discord version superior to the web version at the moment?

light ether
clever depot
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so web has a better model, but discord has more "features"

light ether
clever depot
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do "in the style of X" prompts work, or is it trained without any knowledge of existing music?

light ether
clever depot
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would be really nice if I could mention a bunch of black metal band names in the prompt and it would actually try to make something that follows their style

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especially with metal there are like a million of subgenres 😄

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it's funny how it puts something like (ooh-yeah) in the lyrics of a black metal song at the moment, which really doesn't fit that genre at all:

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light ether
clever depot
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is it capable of doing harsh, growly vocals at the moment? I see it can do distorted vocals fine, but it always seems to come out as distorted and not really growly

placid gorge
placid gorge
placid gorge
clever depot
placid gorge
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Suprisingly havent heard of them meanwhile me with the ~9600 song long metal playlist on spotify

meager flint
clever depot
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I find it impressive how well it can do drums, those sometimes come out really well in metal songs

clever depot
placid gorge
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Maybe heard it via tiktok lemme look it up

broken lotus
placid gorge
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Sounds a lot like hammerfall meets brothers of metal, and yup seen em on tiktok

clever depot
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regarding the lyrics, instrumentals and especially the drums, this song is really very good. just the vocal style is too clean, but with some more controls over the vocal style and the ability to make it longer than just 1:20, this will be really impressive:

placid gorge
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Yea (I can sense voice distortion and it reaching some sound threshold)

inner verge
#

Hey guys how do i tie my discord account to my account on the suno website?

placid gorge
inner verge
placid gorge
tacit gust
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is there a option to imput a audio file and have it build a song bassed off that?

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I just need this program to take a song I already wrote the music to and make a production out of it.

neat nexus
tacit gust
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is there any apps like that? it seems it would be a easier task for the ai.

neat nexus
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I don't know of any but this doesn't mean one doesn't exist. Maybe someone else will post about it?

fringe sierra
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Hi - not sure if i'm in the right place or not. i subbed on app.suno.ai , and I am curious about the limitations on keywords for prompting and so on. is there any documentation? it seems there is some opt-out mechanic at work, or something similar, as referances to some musicians give errors, while others do not. would be very interested if there was some sort of guide for this type of thing. great AI, and would be awesome if you could have an option to have it produce stems at 6x the cost, or something.

crystal prairie
clever depot
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it's really quite noticeable that the overall quality of pop generations is way higher than the overall quality of metal generations. I wonder if that's purely due to metal being way more complex, or also due to there being way more pop in the training data than metal

crystal prairie
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yeah I don't know if we can really guarantee support for 13/8 polyrhythms by the next release 😅

fringe sierra
crystal prairie
fringe sierra
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would probably be impossable to stop people uploading other peoples copytrighted material.. too many legal problems 😄

tepid wedge
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@light ether something I would LOVE to see on the new site: a section for browsing chirps people have made. If the user first hearts a song, it appears in the pool.

Random: Songs the initial user/creator/chirper hearted appear here randomly. If you heart a song you find, that helps it reach the top of the hour/day section, which can propel it upward faster.
Top section: Top rated songs go here and can be sorted by top of the hour, day, week, month, all-time. Maybe it randomizes the top a little bit too.

Bonus Request: Some sort of way to filter by song type/genre.

Thing to watch out for: Make sure the first songs ever upvoted don't just stay at the top forever, permanently gaining hearts and never being budged from that top spot. There needs to be a way for newcoming songs to have a shot at obtaining recognition.

placid gorge
tight frost
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Hey, what are the differences between generating on discord and on the web app ?

placid gorge
tight frost
mint ferry
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Suno Chirp Bot
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— Today at 7:03 PM
This prompt has been flagged. Try again with a different prompt.

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why alway get this message whenever i use chirp what went wrong?

placid gorge
placid gorge
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Or prompt asked for something in that vein

rugged radish
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On web, is it possible to create instrumentals? (no lyrics)

placid gorge
rugged radish
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Lol, I get a guy singing about an instrumental. I'll stick to Discord for now 🙂

thin flint
untold briar
lone kite
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How to change the generation language?

placid gorge
glass notch
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Hi everyone. Im using the web version. Is there a way to enhance the output of the audio quality ?

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What do you guy usually do?

whole orbit
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Is there a FAQ with theme, prompt, musical styles listed?

untold briar
whole orbit
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Fair enough, it's stupidly impressive as is so curiosity reigns supreme when thinking of new concepts 🙂

neat nexus
whole orbit
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Very much so. I've already made a Reggae song with african vocals and personalized lyrics to an artist friend who is now sweating bullets for real. They thought they were safe from AI for awhile!

gloomy stump
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are we not allowed to make it create songs in a similar style of other artists?

brave cobalt
neat nexus
gloomy stump
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I only want the style not the same voice

neat nexus
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Are you using the webapp or the Discord version?

gloomy stump
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web

neat nexus
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ChatGPT getting in the way there I guess.

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Once you can use your own lyrics you should be able to generate them on your own and then use them in the app.

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Since it can take some persuasion to get ChatGPT to do certain things.

gloomy stump
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I see thanks!

neat nexus
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Also it may be worth seeing if any of the (extremely short form) jailbreaks will fit into the webapp for your request.

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Don't know if it would work or not for you but it could be worth trying.

gloomy stump
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will try!

broken lotus
gloomy stump
broken lotus
neat nexus
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Oh! and I'd like to point out that as moderators we do not have access to anything more than you guys do. We're moderators, not developers. No special access.

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(Yes that was a hint, LOL)

gloomy stump
gloomy stump
untold briar
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Lovers of Simlish, your wait is over. I got you.

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Not quite as cool as legit unconditional gen where there's always the dream the model actually makes genuine sense in the lyrics

untold briar
digital ledge
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How to mention style like Hip hop energetic in app.suno.ai ?

broken lotus
# digital ledge How to mention style like Hip hop energetic in app.suno.ai ?

try to make it into a sentence, since it will all be 'interpreted' by chatgpt...
here's a couple of mine that turned out (more or less) how I asked...

sinister groovy hot disco about being dipped in gold to look gorgeous forever

minimal hot synthpop, sultry male, lyrics about chauffeur attracted to his passenger the boss's wife

digital ledge
broken lotus
digital ledge
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ok let me try

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thanks

untold briar
broken lotus
untold briar
cold gull
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I hope this is the right place to ask:
I have read the whole TOS but still want answers set in stone.

1: How much right do you ACTUALLY get to songs generated? The TOS seems to say full but admins mentioning it here talk in a way as if its much more complicated?
2: Is there any way to get the rights of same level for a song you generated outside the paid period or are those forever unobtainable (as in rights)?

blissful raven
untold briar
blissful raven
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You just wrote duet and it generates them?

untold briar
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In the web ChatGPT version where you can only give a basic command

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A 'some music style' song formatted like television script with character names like ROSS:

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Half the songs are basically ABOUT the Friends TV show so maybe don't use Ross though 😄

blissful raven
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That’s epic!

broken lotus
blissful raven
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Anyway to have V1 come out stereo

broken lotus
blissful raven
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Any website or editing program you know to bring the quality up @broken lotus

cold gull
untold briar
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The only thing I've done is using a source seperation tool or model to seperate lyrics from music, so I can boost lyrics volume. I'm curious what other people do. Do you have an example of the low quality part you want to improve?

light ether
blissful raven
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Umm.. I use mp4 to wav website increase the volume 150 and select stereo for channel

broken lotus
untold briar
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There's things like Audio Super Resolution but I don't think it would actually improve this much, though maybe I should double check. Might be interesting to try downsampling to bad quality and re-upsampling as an effect.

blissful raven
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What is demux ? Sorry I’m a noob

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Also ima check it out on my Mac

broken lotus
# blissful raven What is demux ? Sorry I’m a noob

it lets you separate the song into 'stems' which are separate audio tracks for the vocals, drums, bass, and other....

that lets you import those 4 tracks into audio editing software (like garageband) where they can be each adjusted to sound better, vocals can be cut and re-arranged... beat can be extended...

blissful raven
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So ima test this out

light ether
broken lotus
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yeah, same idea (but free)

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you'll need to download some 'models' for it, which are a bit cryptic to know what's 'better'. I use the DEMUCS models, but there are a bunch you can install.

blissful raven
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You have a music channel @broken lotus

broken lotus
# cold gull anyone know?

I'm not a lawyer...

music publishing/distribution is crazy-regulated, entertainment media is California's biggest export, and California has the world's 5th largest economy if it was it's own country... they are politically powerful.

once they figure out Suno (et al) has just disrupted the music industry, they WILL be looking for ways to stop it (NAPSTER, etc)...

Discord is inherently social. Public betas allow us to take anybody's chirp as a starter and then continue it. I can make a song that is half my lyrics, and half someone I don't know..., and vice-versa.

Suno also can't prevent us from stealing song lyrics that are copyright protected and making a new piece of music with someone else's copyright lyrics.

Meanwhile, AI gen does not get a copyright.... this is potentially a legal tangle of rights and public domain.

the TOS attempts to clear this up, legally.

Everything we upload to Suno 'belongs' to Suno (unless it's something bad, then it's our fault lol). This fixes the community-sharing problem. If we don't want to share, we can DM the bot privately, but legally we still 'give' our lyrics to Suno.

as rights-holder, Suno can distribute (download, webview) our songs.

Suno grants us back a perpetual, royalty-free license (we will never owe Suno more money for our chirps).

free subscription gats an 'in-house' license (non-commercial) but they allow posting on socials with attribution to Suno (video contains attribution)

chirps made with paid tier are granted a commercial license.

(not the goal to punish free tier so their chirps can never be changed to commercial license..., the goal to prevent 'farming' free tier for good beginnings.... It should be obvious whether a (normal) free subscriber switches to paid and uses some of their free chirps (or continues them) verses some sort of automated acct that is farming dozens/hundreds of free accts to circumvent the free daily limit.

Suno might be sold someday. 😬 Our songs go with.

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If music is your business, do not take my word for it. I don't represent Suno, am just a mod here.

cold gull
placid gorge
untold briar
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interersting that both songs sung the sun emoji :sun_with_face::palm_tree: Feeling the heat, the sun shines bright as "summer" curious if just a hallucination, actually interpreting the emoji, or just reading the raw 'sun_with_face'. But I think I'll wait till we have better control because testing through ChatGPT wastes a lot of gens.

placid gorge
untold briar
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I hope we're able to continue the existing web segments directly when that feature comes. I gotta build on BLANK SPACE #🐣┃suno-showcase message

broken lotus
placid gorge
placid gorge
broken lotus
placid gorge
# broken lotus How's that again?

Pretty solid info (if thats what your ref to) routenote doesnt allow setting free on amazon/apple music for example for some dumb reason

inner steeple
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I've recently found that you can have specific words that exist on multiple languages and chirp just swaps the language to english for that one word, and then keeps going with the original lyrics language 😁

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but if you put language descriptor to the genre, it's more likely to force the original language for all words

placid gorge
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Huh funky

inner steeple
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kinda wish you could "inpaint" those specific moments, like fix just the small bit in the middle

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same with parts that it fails to gen right but rest of the clip is great

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basically we'd need something that would take the start and end and could fill in between, instead of just taking the start and expanding on that

broken lotus
inner steeple
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would be amazing for reusing the chorus too

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could make seamless transition to it later again

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no idea if this is even technically possible with this current tech (not talking about discord bot's capabilities for editing but actual underlying model)

eager raptor
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[Verse 1]
In Palm Desert's golden light, at ninety-three so bold,
A tale unfolds of Merrill, a heart that's finding its own road,
A lifetime's worth of love and dreams, now taking a new start,
At 93 years old, divorce won't tear him apart.

[Chorus]
He's living life, under the desert sun so bright,
In Palm Desert's warmth, he's finding his own light,
At ninety-three, a new chapter he'll ignite,
In the heart of the desert, he'll take his flight.

[Verse 2]
With each sunrise, he awakens to a world of grace,
Embracing change, finding solace in this tranquil place,
His heart may bear the weight of years, but it's still strong,
In Palm Desert, where he belongs, he'll sing his song.

[Chorus]
He's living life, under the desert sun so bright,
In Palm Desert's warmth, he's finding his own light,
At ninety-three, a new chapter he'll ignite,
In the heart of the desert, he'll take his flight.

[Bridge]
Though love may change, and paths may twist and turn,
His spirit's fire will forever brightly burn,
In the midst of cacti and the desert's endless view,
He'll rediscover life's wonders, anew.

[Verse 3]
With each passing day, he finds joy in simple things,
The desert breeze, the beauty that the night sky brings,
At ninety-three, he's proving it's never too late,
To rewrite the story, find love in a brand-new state.

[Chorus]
He's living life, under the desert sun so bright,
In Palm Desert's warmth, he's finding his own light,
At ninety-three, a new chapter he'll ignite,
In the heart of the desert, he'll take his flight.

[Outro]
In Palm Desert's gentle embrace, his spirit soars,
A 93-year-old named Merrill, with a heart that still explores,
Living life, finding love, in the desert's warm embrace,
In Palm Desert, he's found his happy place.

broken lotus
placid gorge
broken lotus
graceful condor
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Do the team of suno have a post or page anywhere that explains how suno works and how it was trained?

placid gorge
broken lotus
inner steeple
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without knowing any details, I've been under impression it's more like specially trained bark model?

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I mean, it was named "bark sing" first, wasn't it?

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stock bark model can sing too, but it's clearly way worse in every aspect with this

untold briar
untold briar
inner steeple
rain sparrow
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Guys is there going to be an API for chirp?

placid gorge
knotty kite
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How come my songs don’t go to 40 seconds anymore? They cut off at 29 but I thought it was extended

neat nexus
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The new model is capable of longer durations but currently is only available in demo form, using ChatGPT for lyrics on the webapp.

neat nexus
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All sorts. Including original blends you create yourself.

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All I can say is to try it and see what you get.

outer sparrow
teal raft
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Is there a reliable way to have Suno not generate lyrics? I'm quite interested in specifically the musical side and less in the lyrics, especially since it will inject lyrics describing the style of music the prompt is supposed to be in which is odd at best and bad at worst

heady leaf
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hji

cedar ledge
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How can i see how many credits i have?

tame berry
open magnet
normal grove
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Why do some songs come out with no sung lyrics, even though the lyrics are written?

jade mist
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I can’t wait the limit to go above 80 seconds and to be able to write lyrics in version 2!

broken lotus
normal grove
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🤣

open magnet
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yeah... happens

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you can add 'vocals' to the type which usually helps (once the field is available on UI)

normal grove
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Okay thanks.

teal raft
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I've not used this through discord and I'd rather not. Midjourney is already tied to it and that's an albatross even paying for private mode.

broken lotus
dim hatch
broken lotus
teal raft
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Thanks for the info, I'm cool to wait for the functionality to hit the website

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and yeah all my exposure is in v2, I messed with this slightly a little bit months ago and it was neat, but this new V2 version has clipped over whatever it is that makes it sound really, REALLY good.

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and since I've only used the website that would make sense

dim hatch
teal raft
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I think the website is using v2, so the model is better meaning the audio you get is stereo and 'better' but the website itself lacks functionality in how you interact with the system vs. discord

dim hatch
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I wasn't sure which is suppused to have better quality for now, website or discord

broken lotus
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right... Discord is still on v1 ... (for now)

dim hatch
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Ah ok, thanks!

teal raft
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but along with the website getting the better controls discord is supposed to get v2, so then there will be parity this week

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based on what wetcircuit just said

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neat!

dim hatch
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Yeah it seems there are pros and cons of the website for discord, would be good to get feature parity across both e.g. custom lyrics input on website.

broken lotus
dim hatch
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No worries, appreciate all the work so far. I am already amazed how good it is.

fringe kelp
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how can i delete tracks on the web version?

shell jungle
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when will suno v3 (the sites model) go on discord?

woven osprey
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Fantastic application. Personally I don’t like Discord, I find it unintuitive. Therefore, I waited to try SUNO and have opted to use the web interface now it’s available. However, I have some questions. 1. How do I delete generated music. 2. Is the web interface chat based, as in, does it consider previous prompts while creating new ones? 3. Is there a prompt guide for the web based version? Any help with these questions will be much appreciated. Thank you.

light ether
light ether
shell jungle
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yay!