💬┃general-chat

[misty fulcrum]

i will get my play button, then i will stop

[wind jewel]

Haha nice!
How far are you?

[misty fulcrum]

13.2k subs

[wind jewel]

Oh wow nice!

[static sedge]

i love this one ❤️

[wind jewel]

Send me link I’ll make it one sub easier

[visual thistle]

anyone here seen a song they made (and/or never published) inspire an actual artist? serious question

[ember ocean]

Now you get it! thats what im talking about exactly

[dim ridge]

Oh wow, it blocked that short bit?

[fervent leaf]

Yeah.

[dim ridge]

Thank you, that makes me very happy to hear! 😄

[fervent leaf]

Right after this whole thing started.

[kind mesa]

just uploaded a track i made 20 years ago as a demo, uploaded fine without issues at all

[celest swift]

don't remember making this, but ok..grease break as a cover: https://suno.com/s/EiLiX11jEP9en6HX

[kind mesa]

you know you might just be unintentionally using a copywritten progression

[wary sleet]

It takes so many shapes to make pizza.

[static sedge]

i dont think you can copyright a progression

[kind mesa]

yes you can

tell that mc hammer

when queen sued him

and won

[static sedge]

i think that was more for melodic similarity and not progression

[kind mesa]

7 notes in the exact order

thats what the law defined

[static sedge]

progression is the progression of chords.

[kind mesa]

and then the spirit

of the music comes into play

[fervent leaf]

vanilla-ice-eyebrow-gif

[kind mesa]

if the spirit is the same and the chords are the same your screwed

[bronze venture]

but it's diferent, theirs dun dun dun dundun dun, mine is dun dun dun dun dun

[fervent leaf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TLo4Z_LWu4

Yup

[kind mesa]

George Harrison lost a landmark copyright lawsuit for "subconscious plagiarism" when a judge ruled his 1970 hit "My Sweet Lord" copied the melody of the 1963 Chiffons song "He's So Fine".

[static sedge]

Most songs use the same progressions. You're thinking actual melody. Those can be copyrighted

[kind mesa]

if you listen to the sogns the spirit was different enough but the courts didnt care

copyright cases are usually a case by case issue

[fervent leaf]

On the other hand...he apparently couldn't hear it even as he was doing it...lol

[graceful shadow]

it not the same lmao

[dim ridge]

The Rolling Stones copied a song by k.d. Lang they claimed they had never heard before... "Anyone Seen My Baby" vs "Constant Craving"

[static sedge]

In fact, I can only think of one progression that people immediately hear and say "That's from THIS song, you're copying!" lol.

[bronze venture]

queen didn't sue Mc Hammer, it was Rick James who sued Mc Hammer, you're probably thinking Vanilla

[dim ridge]

"Express Yourself" and "Born This Way" don't even sound that similar imho 😄

[kind mesa]

didnt mc hammer steal pressure?

[fervent leaf]

That said this short story is my feelings when it comes to copyrights: https://www.spiderrobinson.com/melancholyelephants.html

I don't believe it's sustainable in any way. I personally am a copyright radical minimalist. But until things change....

[kind mesa]

ohhh no your right

yeah yeah

vanilla

sorry

[static sedge]

The one i'm thinking is the Creep progression, I - III - IV - iv xD

[bronze venture]

vanilla Ice

[ember ocean]

Thats what im saying but with sunos new restrictions its borked the whole upload thing

[devout wasp]

Google is your friend. "In most cases the harmony and chord progressions of a song are not going to be protected under copyright."

[kind mesa]

just uploaded a 20 year old guitar demo i did, uploaded without issue

[ember ocean]

that's actually the air i breathe by the hollies

[warm solar]

@bronze venture Awesome work dude 🔥

[kind mesa]

im telling you either your subconsciously uploaded something too close to something else or you are flagged

[neon spindle]

this expresses my feelings around the new filter https://suno.com/s/Iqdf8FvudsxaIDse

[stiff bramble]

Axis of Awesome’s 4 Chord song tells you all you need to know about chord progression lmao

[devout wasp]

Oh heck is that the famous Danger Danger of Suno fame? I know that guy!

[fervent leaf]

I suspect that's what is hitting people who complain about singing something getting them flagged. There are only so many melodies.

[static sedge]

i remember one time i was jamming out on my guitar and i accidentally recreated the intro for welcome home by coheed and cambria. i was so disappointed xD

[ember ocean]

It's only recently that it started

[kind mesa]

i know you thought you had something

[warm solar]

Here is my try at Industrial Grunge Glitch-hop IDM Instrumental https://suno.com/s/rQhL1VTCXMmKjotq

[static sedge]

it was the most interesting introduction to the band haha

[bronze venture]

Thanks so much, glad you liked it, i had that song written 1 year ago, ha ha just had to tweak some lines 😀

[warm solar]

Its fire...put the link up again fer folks....

[neon spindle]

My point of implosion was me recording some random ramble comedy thoughts in suno, and then it flagged it, and then it deleted my 2 minutes of human things, just because the AI felt like that... Very short form. I felt hurt by technology i cant control. Not good. No good feeling

[bronze venture]

https://suno.com/s/i6pYVKHAdxay45KI collab me and @warm solar

[kind mesa]

just processed my upload into a song without issue

damn i should finish this song

lol

[ember ocean]

the song from 20 years?

[kind mesa]

yep

[gilded rivet]

I wonder if it is something close

[kind mesa]

100% original

[mental sapphire]

Hey, sorry new here lol

[ember ocean]

if you upload it to youtube, it will lock you out from uploading it again

[gilded rivet]

Any way you can share it?

[ember ocean]

iut's kind of incosistent because i just recorded a lawsuit and it went through fine

[kind mesa]

hmmm i might know what the deal it

as far as im aware youtube doesnt have any deals with suno

which makes me think that perhaps someone took your stuff and registered it

[ember ocean]

nope i didnt put it up anywhere

and i didnt make it public

[gilded rivet]

Do you have pro level access?

[kind mesa]

ok then its a coincidence

[celest swift]

did you ever share the link on a discord or elsewhere?

[gilded rivet]

or a paid subscription level whatever it is called now

[kind mesa]

only way to know for sure is to try it on a new account, preferably on a new ip address and computer

[ember ocean]

nope

[velvet helm]

https://suno.com/s/1MXRj2lDfiM8g8f8
dubstep anyone?

[kind mesa]

actually i can test this, as i have stuff on youtube already

adn i ahve anotehr account

[celest swift]

good don't do that, i think a saw a dude on here th eother day advertising his site that could create a video from suno link...i have to assume it was ripping the songs

[velvet helm]

oldies feel lo-fi
Dial forty-two
https://suno.com/s/J532sE2qD0wed6G6

[static sedge]

How about some complextro? https://suno.com/s/qj2NenpznHl0Qnmn

[fervent leaf]

closing-time-semisonic-90s-music-alternative-i-know-who-i-want-gif

Are you sure this is a new song?

[kind mesa]

naww man you are flagged took my youtube song and uploaded it to my other account without problem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxcwnXXDs1Q

that song

and mind you i currently have that song and others in queue on cd baby for release

so its not a youtube thing

[fervent leaf]

wanna-live-i-dont-wanna-die-liam-gallagher-oasis-live-forever-i-want-to-live-gif

I'm sure I've heard this before...

[old dawn]

The Prehistoric Bass Collective presents....Dark Sloggy Tectonic Swamp Wubs: BrontoStep https://suno.com/song/151d6df4-0b6b-4848-b427-17c65eb56dcb

[fervent leaf]

gnr-knocking-on-heavensdoor-gif

I'm sure it will come to me...

[uneven hamlet]

https://suno.com/s/CXAgjgqPxlzGOgoC

it’s my version of a lofi beat 🖤🕷️🎧 hope you enjoy all

The song is about healing after a break up

[fervent leaf]

OTOH...the fact that so many examples exist...

It's a tough one.

[mental sapphire]

https://suno.com/song/43b8b11d-e259-4e10-931e-62b648f201bc

It's a bit country but enjoy lol

[fervent leaf]

I wonder why Suno keeps flagging so many songs. Maybe everyone has been using the same chords for their songs?

[static sedge]

how unoriginal xD

[fervent leaf]

Nah...I'm sure that's not it.

[kind mesa]

i personally think its people that tried too many times to violate copyright and then suno flagged them so now anything they upload now suno says screw it your a filthy pirate

[fervent leaf]

Would Suno do that?

[kind mesa]

or something inbetween

sure why not

they dont want to be sued

[static sedge]

yarrr 🏴‍☠️ 🦜 xD

[ember ocean]

i just told you i uploaded a lawsuit so im not flagged

[fervent leaf]

You uploaded a ....what?

[kind mesa]

well i tested your theories and they fell though

dont know what to tell you

[uneven hamlet]

A lawsuit waiting to happen?

[wise socket]

if you've deleted all your songs from your workspace, do you know how to reset it so it doesn't show how many there is? for example, my workspace is saying 32 songs but there is none in it currently

[kind mesa]

there is a drop down to hide disliked tracked

uncheck that

[wise socket]

oohhh that's what it was, thank you

[velvet helm]

probably stems? make sure youre viewing all the files in your workspace.

[kind mesa]

yeah that too

[mental sapphire]

It takes a day or two to update

[kind mesa]

if anyone wants to hear my new weird comedy song: https://suno.com/song/80d27b0b-a22a-4dea-977d-c0da95d3db6f

[elfin kayak]

I have been make some new music today

[static sedge]

Here's mine because mentions of comedy are the only times i get to share it. https://suno.com/s/vDrrN9buUJ7kpLIb

[timber pumice]

I can relate

[mental sapphire]

https://suno.com/song/a42d9e0a-1bd6-4b57-9eec-177c493440be

Heres a Heinz 57 blend song lol it's just a mix of a bunch of different genres I thought the lyrics could fit 😅

[elfin kayak]

Shadow did you make any new music to today

[static sedge]

i did 🙂

[elfin kayak]

Cool

Expressing yourself through music

[fervent leaf]

Anyone like country? I can share a track?

[mental sapphire]

I do

[graceful shadow]

yeah lets hear it

[fervent leaf]

https://suno.com/s/YovRmj9rzUrmpaZR

[elfin kayak]

Hepcat I like country

[ember ocean]

https://suno.com/s/WjmMizAQAkwotWMC Heres the lawsuit i just uploaded

[graceful shadow]

nice and rich

[kind mesa]

if you uploaded that without issue then your other songs match a known copyrighted song

[timber pumice]

https://suno.com/s/5ZRRsF9FhIjCuh1w

[fervent leaf]

I used Inspo and then when I was happy mashed up two versions of it to get that one.

[kind mesa]

even if you play it on the guitar and you werent trying doesnt change the fact that the system picked it up as something else

[fervent leaf]

Inspo with samples I generated using Sounds.

[uneven hamlet]

lol hepcat your account we get a glimpse of the image for a second and woodhouse be hammering it outa existence.

[mental sapphire]

How even lol 😂😂I began singing it

[fervent leaf]

Your lawsuit has a nice sound.

[unique spade]

[uneven hamlet]

Maybe not woodhouse but still lol

[kind mesa]

or thats another account

[ember ocean]

my point is the incosistency, The chord progression was loose and not based on anything, then i just recorded this intro which is stollen and it went througgh

[graceful shadow]

@fervent leaf do you like visualizer's?

[fervent leaf]

I've used Vizzy.io in the past.

[heady basalt]

ENJOY: https://suno.com/s/2onEgnjxBrpCgJ2A

[uneven hamlet]

I wish I still had my electric guitar

[velvet helm]

I made one too @graceful shadow but not on google, and not THAT cool. Mines a pretty basic visualizer.

I might add tha lava lamp style for output though. its cool

[graceful shadow]

when you get the time cloud you rate my new lava-lamp-visualizer https://lava-lamp-visualizer-13519496087.us-west1.run.app/

[graceful shadow]

glade you liked it id like to see yours

[velvet helm]

Ill friend you and drop the file. its a small file. ill zip it so you can scan it and all the fun safe jazz.

[latent raptor]

Hihu

Family friendly got it

Hibui

I am hanging out with highschool bestie and my nephew ❤️

How is everyone doing

I'm happy

[silent slate]

the visualizer is cool but ive just been clicking and having fun with the synth for the past 2 minutes, its so nice ahah

[latent raptor]

I don't even use that

[mighty acorn]

@everyone stop using suno

it copyrights songs that even you made

[latent raptor]

I'm poor and can only afford pr

How about no

[kind mesa]

in most servers thats a quick way to get banned btw

[latent raptor]

I love Suno I give them moneys

They give me. Tools

[static sedge]

No thank you. I'll do what i feel like. Appreciate your suggestion though.

[latent raptor]

I make music

[mighty acorn]

they need to fix their copyright issues

[latent raptor]

Not sure if good

[kind mesa]

stop using copyrighted stuff as a base

[fervent mantle]

https://suno.com/s/dojlWNYPj9qWx7ax

[latent raptor]

Yag

[mighty acorn]

im not

[latent raptor]

I have never been e posted to that

[mighty acorn]

i can show you the song

[kind mesa]

please do

[mighty acorn]

let me compress it

[latent raptor]

Sorry I am intoxicated on. Legal substances

[mighty acorn]

i dont have discord nitro

[latent raptor]

I have many songs

[kind mesa]

i've yet to see any examples from people so it would be good to see

[latent raptor]

I miss my bitri

We abat example
S

I am trying

😭

[static sedge]

upload to soundcloud and link that. no need to mess with files like dat.

[bronze venture]

what does discord nitro give you except for emojis?

[static sedge]

a monthly receipt?

[kind mesa]

You ready???? your song starts by using nintendo video game music, nintendo is one of the most litigious companies in the world, that song getting blocked is justified, mind you i only listened to the start

[mental sapphire]

https://suno.com/song/941bffed-2ed0-4d9c-8de6-c10f61a83fc1

Anyone wanna take a listen?

[mighty acorn]

ok

[cursive pine]

😵

tea

[mighty acorn]

i guess i can just crop it

[static sedge]

oh yeah dat'll do it

[sharp timber]

Japanese yo scale is so always happy that without a doubt is my latest addiction

https://suno.com/s/ufc9Cs4F1DBnBEw3

[graceful shadow]

thanks for checking it out you can play your suno songs on it and a lot more i made it with Gemini

[mighty acorn]

ok i cropped it

and im reuploading it

[kind mesa]

let us know if it works after that

[mighty acorn]

. @Clifton @DAViD @erica @georg @Gim @startup_engineer (reet) fix this right now

[cursive pine]

nintendo doesn’t like sharing, they won’t even give me Pikachu as a sidekick in fortnite lol im patiently waiting

[static sedge]

i'll take some nana puddin' if we are taking orders

oh and a hot cocoa because that sounds good

[sharp timber]

We’re out of milk is hot water and cocoa ok?

[static sedge]

if it tastes like hot cocoa, that's all dat matters

[elfin kayak]

https://suno.com/s/WV6l7I6hHtxdli2R

I just made the song

[static sedge]

i grew up using water for my cereal because we couldn't afford milk. I not afraid of water cocoa xD

[pastel summit]

yo

[devout wasp]

I want a uuuuuuuuuuuuuuh burger

[static sedge]

i can has cheezeburger

[devout wasp]

hehehe

[sharp timber]

I didn’t grow up.

[graceful shadow]

the powder milk is pretty good

[static sedge]

Some people have all the luck

[kind mesa]

me neither, i glowed up

[sharp timber]

I like it 🤙

[devout wasp]

I dudn't grow up, I grew to the sides

hehehe

[neon spindle]

If you want a scientific reason too. Milk isnt for people anyway. Its a learned thing to being even abled to drink it. But i would google that as i just said it as i remembered it and found it interesting 😄

[elfin kayak]

Thank you I appreciate that

[graceful shadow]

[cursive pine]

me love music!! 🥹

[devout wasp]

I'm lactose intolerant :'D

[elfin kayak]

Thank you

[sharp timber]

I’m lactose woke

[static sedge]

oh no - totally. We definitely shouldn't drink it but then i see ice cream and then i'm more like "what? I didn't say anything....can you pass the chocolate sauce?"

[covert cradle]

I’m doing okay 👍 hope you’re doing well too 🤗

[neon spindle]

i also. i like cocoa so i am always rather aware of that 😬

[devout wasp]

I just make it with lactaid lol

[elfin kayak]

About to go make me another song then probably go to bed I'm not sure yet

[sharp timber]

Tillamook mudslide is the king dingaling of icecreams

[static sedge]

make dat music ❤️

[elfin kayak]

Yeah

[neon spindle]

i also prefer water based ice over milk based ice. it refreshes me more

[devout wasp]

Ye

[static sedge]

that's fair

[uneven hamlet]

Here’s a song that I’m not sure the genre

https://suno.com/s/4K4cWQ52Cj6Z1UdC

it’s slow kinda sultry it sounds smooth not sure 🖤.

It’s called Take Your Time. It’s about knowing someone is lying and telling them to slow down just because you want them to suffer through it.

[gritty matrix]

Impossible To Break
https://suno.com/s/dcmIW5gH9PlGGe3G

[terse matrix]

Daniel

[mental sapphire]

I wrote this song around 8 years ago and decided to make it a few days ago using suno so gimme your thoughts and opinions pls

https://suno.com/song/6e6fe5c3-c8a2-4ed0-8795-a7e54a037ef2

[tidal oxide]

Anybody need some funk in their life? https://suno.com/s/zEKuiBopbQVF492K

[terse matrix]

Probably not

[mental sapphire]

Feminine r&b mixed with trap soul pop hyperblend and a hippy delivery fr

[elfin kayak]

https://suno.com/s/5xKyiJp5nU9GbtEi

I just made this song

[uneven hamlet]

🫣 thank you!! I do many genres and covers so they mix

[tidal oxide]

same

Anybody want to tell me what genre this is? https://suno.com/s/IYXUmSQYkj8mkI6o

[mental sapphire]

Modern synth yodel mixed with rock acid EDM 😂😂

Ngl that is fire

[tidal oxide]

Made that from two identicaly lyric tracks with 5 fused genres each, completely different cadences and soundscape then mashed them up

[uneven hamlet]

lol the gpt comment

[tidal oxide]

yeah, but they make some fire tracks

[uneven hamlet]

Yesss I’ll check em out . I love any comment even the hate ones

[mental sapphire]

I may get banned for using the S word that means poo 😅😅 over this og comment

[tidal oxide]

This is addictive beat

off the chain nu metal https://suno.com/s/zxscBopFlMkYdt6C

[soft lynx]

Brit invasion is back https://suno.com/s/KuLGDieGnMRfiqmD

[kind mesa]

shoot isnt a bad word

[uneven hamlet]

Poo shoot

[tidal oxide]

I cuss on half my tracks XD

[mental sapphire]

Ah shoot

[mental sapphire]

Same!

[velvet helm]

I am right there with you. and If Im not cussing, im being vulgar in some sense.

[tidal oxide]

literally only word on that yodelcore that wasn't a yodel was mf over and over again

[mental sapphire]

https://suno.com/song/f6417a05-8c32-4855-a5ba-69ce5d3fa8f0

[tidal oxide]

My 2nd most popular track according to suno https://suno.com/s/OxMoBgfIlU4apnJy

[tidal oxide]

THIS I love this

reminds me of a mix between Rancid and Oasis

yes, my exposure to british sounding music is limited XD

[devout wasp]

Sharing this again because I'm really happy with it -u- https://suno.com/s/xHJOc6DglWCg6YNE

[cursive pine]

my most popular is this one, with 12 strong likes!! 🥹❤️
https://suno.com/s/Q1XuRGqm5upz5JKI

[lilac roost]

technically if it requires you to put a parental advisory explicit material label on it. (as in using it in the projectile sense) @kind mesa

[gleaming flame]

https://suno.com/s/1vTJr7oEonRboZXn

[static sedge]

Alright i guess i'm gonna do a country song. Why not

[devout wasp]

Do iiit

[tidal oxide]

Someone say country, but I gave it a spin https://suno.com/s/nOkvmwlVqZSnP5je

[tidal oxide]

Love the energy, just started it, but I'm liking what I'm hearing

[covert cradle]

Under rated tunes in case someone else wanna check?
🎧 https://suno.com/playlist/25b86982-f5f9-4ccb-9687-e2f907a78573

[unique spade]

Yeehaw brother

[soft lynx]

Well, close enough it was meant to be a mix of Libertines and Beatles, mate

[unique spade]

Here's some bluegrass

https://suno.com/s/TY3JZKhJvv6Q1kQ2

[royal pendant]

oh yeah

[solar blade]

https://suno.com/s/kVcFxl6oOraFXbPU

[tidal oxide]

Thanks, I'm glad to hear this again https://suno.com/s/302Xdueb3oVcFEF3

[solar blade]

https://suno.com/s/omMW4pYSADxJGGeQ one more , it deservs it , magical music

[unique spade]

Some Dark Country

https://suno.com/s/Sp0hFOiikLGkHIwj

[unique spade]

I need this on vinyl lol

[gleaming flame]

Thank you!!

[tidal oxide]

I gots something beautiful with this one, warm and emotional https://suno.com/s/euNk7Okc8OTmxiv0

[uneven hamlet]

Here’s one of the rare guy songs I have made I am thinking of redoing it and changing the lyrics a bit

https://suno.com/s/8wX2Uk2AN99g250g

[soft lynx]

Cheers

[unique spade]

Back to my ambient ritual song as a dedication to Hekate

[gleaming flame]

https://suno.com/s/1ZXzlrRhILCZlepc

Here's a country song of mine

[celest swift]

listening to: https://suno.com/s/PKpnkmvkImY1viU4

[mental sapphire]

Here's some r&b/trap soul

https://suno.com/song/1bfcfa0c-a531-4c78-b546-d3f7d269203c

[wise socket]

i don't normally do this and sorry for the sidetrack but i have a song here if anyone likes music similar to Enya. https://suno.com/s/zdwGLYZqCy777Cnl

[royal pendant]

https://suno.com/s/zMkClLev7Jam1XB0 who knew I'd love this song too

[tidal oxide]

Another banger

[unique spade]

Definitely a vibe, and I love how powerful the vocals become

[wise socket]

yea, i remember before social media. barely seen it since

[covert cradle]

You’re welcome. I’m glad you enjoy it still 🤗

[wise socket]

way too old

[soft lynx]

Enya been summoned again...👀

[tidal oxide]

nope

[wise socket]

you bet, i'm making an album for my wife since she's obsessed with this kind of music

[covert cradle]

We’re all humans in here except for Woodhouse

[uneven hamlet]

I need to de shadow echo ect it lmao

[mental sapphire]

Wait there's another kind of people that is nonhuman?

[kind mesa]

im not human but im not a bot

[uneven hamlet]

I’m going to use vaelons new voice and make it duet with Noxie like Iced Cold Eyes

[tidal oxide]

I just redneck engineer my tracks XD

[uneven hamlet]

https://suno.com/s/aOGcKiuO3HZDVUN7

That’s “Ice Cold Eyes” duet … alt metal hybrid

[covert cradle]

Are you a troll then

[hidden forge]

Whats up?

[uneven hamlet]

I’m a velociraptor

[tidal oxide]

This dark country track is a vibe. Absolutely love this

[hidden forge]

00101?

[tidal oxide]

I always wanted a pet velociraptor

[mental sapphire]

That's fair lol I forget some people really are just that lazy

[viral gull]

I am trying to mess with time signatures. Is this too much or still listenable https://suno.com/s/rKxXqYMAULiaYycC

[lilac roost]

or or or... hot take...
neurotypical corporatese nerds speaking in bullet points before gpt came into the light
are who you're referring to

[hidden forge]

Don don don…

[unique spade]

I got a couple more lol

[lilac roost]

but now when i speak like a normal HR email, i get downvoted on reddit

[hidden forge]

One fine day in the middle of the night…

[tidal oxide]

Let the darkness fear your light https://suno.com/s/YmdsubmESa8sUZfm

[lilac roost]

that's the opposite actually. they talk in tech-broese

[tidal oxide]

Wassup Landan

[lilac roost]

broccoli head speak

[mental sapphire]

Ngl the vibe in this chat is pretty nice, we got the cynics, we got the bots, we got the lyricist, and we got the prompters all in one place 😂

[gleaming flame]

Thank you so much! 🤗 My profile started out only modern horror core but I've breached out and experimented with different styles/genres.

[lilac roost]

no they dont @smoky plover "normal" people speaking sounds way not normal.

[hidden forge]

Eek all these humans in here.

[mental sapphire]

You good?

[lilac roost]

"normal" people talking, talk like sitcoms

you never noticed?

no no, you're the truman show staff

[uneven hamlet]

Add in the laugh tracks after we diss each other it makes it funny

[lilac roost]

i'm not

[unique spade]

Nothing wrong at all with branching out and experimenting with new styles/genres

[gleaming flame]

Agreed lol and I just joined this chat, didn't know there was a suno discord till today.

[hidden forge]

And we’re back for another episode of Suno drama 101

[tidal oxide]

I'm not even the main character in my own story XD

[lilac roost]

that's what the emojis are for

[velvet helm]

hot off the press; Phantom Tips: https://suno.com/s/ZQfISGYPwuULZzkb 🎧

[mental sapphire]

Same 😂😂😂

[viral gull]

Every day is drama day in this chat

[tidal oxide]

Yeah it's always a weird fun time here

[unique spade]

We're all scraps of code within one bigger, galaxy spanning computer simulation.

[hidden forge]

It’s better than immediately being criticized and look down on and crap like the last Discord I was in shared a few songs and everybody just started talking trash and just called AI music, garbage and crap like that

[mental sapphire]

Spill some tea

[lilac roost]

so i saw passenger today.
everyone points and says "SEE, HE's a NORMIE"
well sheeee-

[hidden forge]

I know so sad

[viral gull]

I got a song instead https://suno.com/s/rKxXqYMAULiaYycC

[hidden forge]

Nah, just got on RuneScape instead while looking for inspiration lol

[lilac roost]

i mean, when it inverts all your motifs in the genre where you know what it should have been, but you yolo publish, kinda makes people go ew?

[mental sapphire]

You've got anger issues huh

[viral gull]

You want to whine some more instead lol

[uneven hamlet]

I have a song for that!!! <enter sad song link here>

[tidal oxide]

My single worst performing song on Suno https://suno.com/s/ajqioSTJCmfJXybt

[gleaming flame]

How long have y'all had and been releasing songs on suno?

[unique spade]

About a year now

[lilac roost]

like, i got some gens where the motifs go down instead of up, and it's wrong and i'm like bro.... you didnt have to gen it like this

[covert cradle]

Leave Landan alone. Go back to Reddit or whatever you came from and leave us alone if you’re gonna be that way in this server. Show respect for what we create.

[lilac roost]

angel, you're cool i was just joshing you

[mental sapphire]

Valid but over generalizing lol

[topaz spindle]

Hi, I do have some problem in the new editor. I have no sound while the sound in library is working and the song is not divided into sections.
Any idea?

[lilac roost]

i got peach rings i should eat

[royal pendant]

let's game it out

[lilac roost]

mango ones too

[mental sapphire]

Proboem is now in my dictionary 😂

[uneven hamlet]

About 2 years but only semi seriously since Jan this year really I unpublished all my crap songs

[hidden forge]

At least I’m not the only one that did that. Lol. Most of them were from v4 an unfinished

[mental sapphire]

5 or 6 months now

[covert cradle]

I did type 😠

[hidden forge]

Says who?

[unique spade]

Not worth the effort friend. Ignore them.

[gleaming flame]

I've had mine for a few months but I didn't actually start releasing and making music til March of this year.

[unique spade]

Enjoy some calming deathcore

https://suno.com/s/7AVSSn2iGPj7IRfA

[wise socket]

hey, does anyone know how to get a voice i'm using for multiple tracks to stop starting off the songs the same every time? she hums at the beginning. i even tried prompting it otherwise

[lilac roost]

you ever have repeat 1 on, and the banger is so good, you're like, wow, this version smacks, but it's gone on for like 10 iterations of the same track?

[rigid path]

what is you guys ai musician inspirations?

[gleaming flame]

Yeah I ended up doing the same thing lol deleted songs I liked the least

[rigid path]

what ai musicians do you look up to ?

[lilac roost]

uh... the CEO of suno?

[mental sapphire]

Mostly real life and a mix of what I dream to be fr.

[covert cradle]

Why is she even in here for if she’s just gonna call us ai the whole time

[dusk flower]

Yo chat

Hello

[plain ledge]

Why do u make ai music

[hidden forge]

There’s not really a way around that to be honest. More than likely, you will have to upload the song and remix it.

[mental sapphire]

Forget about it, why does their opinion matter to you truly

[unique spade]

Probably bored with nothing else better to do

[wise socket]

bummer. hard to make an album that doesn't sound the same for every song

[plain ledge]

I lowkey wanna know

[rigid path]

no musicians?

[plain ledge]

Og

[lilac roost]

i dont consider AI generations something that the person publishing would warrant calling them a musician unless the person is a musician, applying their craft to be gobbled up into the AI realm and spit back out with that datacenter GPU dusted dorito flavor

[mental sapphire]

Mix the genres up.

[uneven hamlet]

Ah the dreaded hummm that’s a feature not a bug 🙂 lol I’m kidding I have tried everything but the closest is just adding in a intro that says which instrument playing or type words

[wise socket]

yea i tried the instrumental intro but let me see what else i can do

[plain ledge]

Just make a real song

[unique spade]

My inner grammar police is about to spaz tf out

[hidden forge]

You can try extending this song over your original and add another instrument

[mental sapphire]

I mean I look up to a lot of different other musicians yes but they're not the reason I want to be this way I have written since I was 12 and made songs since I was 16 no one's ever listen to my music a single time up until I started releasing AI versions of my songs

[royal pendant]

foxtrot

[lilac roost]

well it's very interesting. but really, i just want texas to dry up

[dusk flower]

Easier daid than sone

Ngl

[mystic quiver]

https://suno.com/s/9GqilBzQWkp4Vc4C here's an ai generated you

[covert cradle]

I guess so mumbles

[unique spade]

I feel that. I mostly write to vent and as a form of therapy

[plain ledge]

If you want to start just use loops gng

[uneven hamlet]

Eva green 💚

[viral gull]

That is the spirit

[plain ledge]

?

[keen pollen]

F off

[mystic quiver]

crass, lack of class, too much sass, go back to class, lass

beat you to it landan

[lilac roost]

my prompts literally say "use simple normie loops so the normies can actually enjoy the basic uncomplicated stuff for their pleasure"

[rigid path]

what do you like about their music

[plain ledge]

Ts is ass gng

[lilac roost]

you good?

[plain ledge]

Use looper man bro

[lilac roost]

if you're gonna rage bait, do it against the anti-ai people, they're more interesting to do it towards

[mental sapphire]

The mass of this trash is enough to make me pass on the class

[hidden forge]

True that.

[wise socket]

okay, i managed to sorta circumvent it by adding an intro with words to stop the hum lol. thanks

[mystic quiver]

https://suno.com/s/WKrQwYNcV3kJQE5F i got more talent than you when i pass gas

[unique spade]

Just sit back and enjoy some popcorn Pim, all will be well.

[keen pollen]

Who tf are you?

[kind mesa]

ewww no, you got wash

[viral gull]

Surprise people in the the Suno discord will post Suno songs

[keen pollen]

Si much talent being an ass, f off

[uneven hamlet]

Lol did my <enter sad song link here> joke land

[mental sapphire]

Mad facts, this more than just a hard pass as it rips my whole az

[plain ledge]

Ai mfs are so braindead it ain't even funny

[mystic quiver]

you look the fool, go back to school

[hidden forge]

What’s the point in arguing?

[wise socket]

this chat is wild at this time of the night

[gleaming flame]

I low-key just use suno now to listen to music instead of using YouTube. Alot of songs on suno are just better lol

[lilac roost]

half the time the AI stuff sounds generic. but that's half the point.
the other part of it is what it can tweak that you didn't think of. you know, standing on the shoulders of giants with the ill-ingested data without consent of the artists and all. So we can dwell in that glorious skill we've extracted for a cheap $300/yr and speedrun making bangers.
We dont need a guitar to pull chicks, as we dont need chicks, we get cool sounds and vibes without having to womanize like normies would making music from scratch.

[plain ledge]

Gng use bandlab

[keen pollen]

You definitely need to be bullied tf

[mystic quiver]

you gotta be on a different level of salty to come to an AI server to complain about AI

lost your job to AI

[keen pollen]

Aye man

[mental sapphire]

I mean I prefer to write my own lyrics I find it lazy to not generate your own lyrics tbh

[keen pollen]

Who modding this place

[unique spade]

Oh I can relate to that lol

[lilac roost]

idk, the chappel roan fans would disagree

[keen pollen]

Ya let this bs slide?

[plain ledge]

Producers get more chicks than any ai chud

[unique spade]

These type of people are low key funny

[mystic quiver]

yeah and it seems like they followed me to discord

[lilac roost]

copy pasta sample daddy

[plain ledge]

?????

[mystic quiver]

like their existence in general yeah

[uneven hamlet]

They joined yesterday obviously they are trolls.

[lilac roost]

i'm a producer, let me get my daw roll out and slam some drake samples

[hidden forge]

Ok

[mystic quiver]

<@&1082792303976001547>

im bored

[plain ledge]

Start off like that then learn to play intramenta

[lilac roost]

you're telling me what to do.

LOL

i can do what i want

[gleaming flame]

Here's a alt r&b song I wrote and made

https://suno.com/s/Rx58BvHYcpSyDbN7

[plain ledge]

It's just some help gng

[hidden forge]

Did AI write it?

[lilac roost]

if i want to prompt for
bombastic bodacious templar
i'm gonna do it

[unique spade]

I love seeing Landan and Necronometer deal with trolls

[hidden forge]

This is hilarious

[keen pollen]

Bug

[hidden forge]

I don’t understand the reasoning behind arguing

[lilac roost]

there's only 1 person arguing, and 30 people having fun

and 2 people who need to buy more popcorn

[dusk flower]

Peak Star 105.5 ass song

[ivory nova]

https://suno.com/s/3jyc0uXm6G9CzTnY
My First publish song MotiHall

[dusk flower]

Radio ass song

That’s like the only way I’d ever hear that song ever be played if it was released fully

[plain ledge]

49 braindead "individuals"

[viral gull]

The insults keep getting funnier

[lilac roost]

dont make me link you blicky blicky

you want it?

[rigid path]

what has ai allowed you to make that a daw can not

[uneven hamlet]

You mean Ryder ?

[lilac roost]

you want degen tracks?

[hidden forge]

Lol

[young trail]

Can't we all just get along?

[hidden forge]

No

Lol

[lilac roost]

i'll send you the ultimate repertoire of degen lyrics not made by gpt

[plain ledge]

These guys get shoved in lockers

[uneven hamlet]

Floral guts lol

[plain ledge]

Write some real lyrics gng

[young trail]

You can stay quiet for a day then

[ivory nova]

Who can rate this song bc i need to make change

[lilac roost]

oh, oh they are real

[spice citrus]

I need to merge accounts. Was directed here for advice (never used Discord before) since I am not getting any response for over a week to my inquiry to Billing and Support. Can anyone point me in the right direction? TIA

[lilac roost]

https://suno.com/s/HBPmXUo7e1GbBRUn

[plain ledge]

Is the voice a humans voice?

[velvet helm]

Giiirth Angel…
Giiirth Angel…
Why you walk so slooow…?

https://suno.com/s/9xeJlwUdXKSqHv6R

[uneven hamlet]

Dudes prolly 15

[royal pendant]

https://suno.com/s/j9P1BcwDJcdQDRCN

yeah still love it

[lilac roost]

pffft, yeah.
was it stolen maybe? but jaden smith's soul was stolen too, so who cares?

[keen pollen]

The fact its even here at all for this long

[lilac roost]

half the entertainers you idolize are cannonballs anyway. have fun with that

[plain ledge]

?

Ok bro

[covert cradle]

Hope they stop soon

[lilac roost]

you have 0 fringe in your life

[dusk flower]

Yeah like “stolen” is a strong word here

[keen pollen]

Completely losing the plot on what this place supposed to be

[dusk flower]

Same

[lilac roost]

i mean, modern consumer habits so... like... why would i not join in?

i'm modern, you're modern

[uneven hamlet]

@plain ledge @smoky plover

Both joined today to troll so

[dusk flower]

If I post a song and then an AI is trained on that then uhh that’s lowkey on me for making it publicly available

[plain ledge]

I genuinely feel like I'm loseing my mind talking to these "people"

[dusk flower]

Then leave

[keen pollen]

F off

[mystic quiver]

<@&1082792303976001547>

[lilac roost]

no actually, gives you grounds to sue before they lock you out of the class action, but they won't tell you taht.

[dusk flower]

Don’t lose any more intelligence

[plain ledge]

I know gng

[uneven hamlet]

Imagine having your socials in your bio when you troll

[dusk flower]

Oh I’m aware

It is probably won’t work unless I’m actually a massive musician

[covert cradle]

Evening JawKnee 👋😊

[plain ledge]

It's wild a place like this exsist

[mystic quiver]

do i have to get a 7 day myself to cause these threats to stop? lol

[dusk flower]

Which I’ve come to terms with I don’t really give a damn because I don’t really have much music released anyway anyways

[uneven hamlet]

Ryder sharpp

[lilac roost]

so then if you look into it, you can tell the major labels are using AI synthesized music as a punching bag before they start grandstanding after the courts deem everything settled, then suddenly, the major labels using AI are 'for' artists when they use AI, just like spotify is doing right now.

[mental sapphire]

With how you act I doubt your human as you're obviously less than that.

[dusk flower]

Literally don’t need a lawyer I would just accept it unless it’s a carbon copy

[plain ledge]

Crazy how mfs are genuinely arguing about fake music

[lilac roost]

music isn't natural sound it's artificial in the first place

[keen pollen]

What you mentioning me for

[dusk flower]

Wait what’s you lost me

[uneven hamlet]

lol no their name is Ryder sharpp

[lilac roost]

you're making a noise that wouldnt have been made naturally

[dusk flower]

Oh well yeah

[covert cradle]

Don’t you have anything else better to do than bother us.
Go back to Reddit 😠

[keen pollen]

I feel gross with this name now lol

[lilac roost]

so like, AI is the most unnatural way of making noise so like... it's more musical than human music

[keen pollen]

Do these kind of trolls come here often?

[uneven hamlet]

@rydersharprandomazzprod

[young trail]

Much too often

[dusk flower]

I like to think humans are likely the one and only species to have invented music or making sounds for something other than communication for potentially billions if not trillions of years

[lilac roost]

its still not that special

[keen pollen]

Why not just immediate ban?

[mystic quiver]

i think all the mcdonalds managers are losing their jobs to AI and coming to here

[dusk flower]

It’s really not

[lilac roost]

the only organism to find it fascinating is quite the shift

[covert cradle]

Sadly they sneak in here and bash us for using ai

[dusk flower]

Given we’re probably the only ones in existence

[lilac roost]

idk

[mystic quiver]

accept the future or get rolled

[lilac roost]

if it sounds good, euphoric, that's all that matters.

[dusk flower]

You can’t beat the future into your hands

[lilac roost]

well, when all companies start sifting through people only hiring those who aren't anti-ai, you're gonna be in a really big bucket

since you know, the multi-trillion dollar ai market cap

[mystic quiver]

https://suno.com/s/Tnquv0wKffzEByQR

[uneven hamlet]

Should seriously just ban.

[mental sapphire]

Fun fact if you hit something long enough (i.e. 1 second or longer) you're legit beating the future into existence.

[lilac roost]

the signals strengthen the more something appears. or just thinking it into existence

[dusk flower]

I mean I’m actively making music in a DAW rn

[mental sapphire]

Facts lmao

[lilac roost]

that's pretty impressive

[dusk flower]

I just use Suno for idea

[lilac roost]

yee

[dusk flower]

But yeah, I’ve been using a $500 DAW for the past 3-4 years or so composing various genres mainly orchestral soundtrack

Suno is just really good at getting more out of parts I’m unsure of

[regal ocean]

https://suno.com/s/af5UYthJM211tiOy suno for me was always like a sort of sandbox that i could toy around with

i put in my Songs, cover it and see what it does

sometimes it sounds cool sometimes its dookie

[keen pollen]

Seeing what they were saying bout some of ya

Just truly uncalled for

Im sorry ya go through that. If mods did time em out, its appreciated it.

That type of bashing isnt productive or constructive to a positive ai music environment.

Im sorry that happens

Hopefully ya have a better night

Peace friends

[lilac roost]

i like being able to type in some lyrics, and then hearing stitch them together in ways i never thought of, and i go, oh... i can rap/sing in that manner, didnt think about squashing those phonemes like that.
or harmonizing a certain set of words that flow interestingly. its really cool.
Some would be like "you dont have the right to do that, you need to explore those methods by hand"
me: then dont use the internet, fool

[olive bridge]

suno = minutes to a few hours to perfect a track and try vocals, a daw, producing each beat, cadencd, ryhtem, tone, eep, eep and boop plus bass and sequence thos into a song that songs remotely the same = several daysr to weeks

suno removes time

time is valuable

if i can make a song in minutes, why in the hell what i ever put in weeks again

[uneven hamlet]

Plus it doesn’t sound like crap

[lilac roost]

it's way more profound than that. because you've heard it, you have this drive to callback what you've experienced, and use that, not just for a single track.

[gleaming flame]

Cinematic noir jazz pop song

https://suno.com/s/6ucIQbJfgF2ZZf4C

[olive bridge]

people don't get it, when an artist goes 9 months between cd releases, thats because it took THAT long to make those 10 tracks

[regal ocean]

for me i just like composing songs in general

[uneven hamlet]

https://suno.com/s/t6TpOQU6yXhK4GiM

here’s my rap song called Rough Draft. Won a contest with it. Shout out to the members iykyk

[regal ocean]

i like making each note of the song

but if you wanna make songs with suno to increase efficiency

[olive bridge]

well i don't have time to setup a midi keyboard, buy a drum, learn to play sax, trumpet, trombone, piano etc, just so i can buy a 10k dollar mic to record it in full acoustic clarity and then try to mix that all together using a 20k$ studio setup

[regal ocean]

thats up to you

[lilac roost]

you never had to do that, you could make something like sugar crash and go viral for no reason. lul

[dusk flower]

To be completely fair, I do the exact same thing in my DAW, I don’t know how to play any of the instruments that I’m using virtually

[autumn coral]

you dont really need that

[olive bridge]

@autumn coral i've been using daws since 1998

[stark linden]

Hiii

[olive bridge]

wanna bet

[regal ocean]

some stuff you could subtitute like virtual instruments and buy a, yes more expensive microphone, but you can make it ascoustically treated with effect plugins

it depends

[dusk flower]

My dads been using Cubase since 1997!

[olive bridge]

i do home and car custom sound quality audio, and there is no daw in existence that products live musical instruments

synth is not real

cubase doesn't produce saxaphone

or trumpet

or oboe

or xylphone

or violine

[regal ocean]

theres some physical modelling competitors like SWAM from audio modeling

[solid surge]

Yo

[regal ocean]

or pianoteq 9

[lilac roost]

doesnt this fall into the "cameras are going to take away jobs from the realism painters" just to go "cameras are more real than what you could do with photoshop/AI?"

[regal ocean]

they sound pretty real i think but

[autumn coral]

yeah you can get a decent 7 piece mic kit for 90 dollars if you wanna go an acoustic route. as far as recording goes you can have a full setup with a bass and guitar for maybe like 350 bucks

[regal ocean]

nothing Beats a real recording yeah

[dusk flower]

A lot of film soundtracks actually use virtual instruments

[solid surge]

How can I slop like you guys

[dusk flower]

You’d be surprised

[lilac roost]

you can try

[dusk flower]

Ugh this again

[regal ocean]

you go to suno.ai and you make the slop

[uneven hamlet]

Hello you2comp new to discord made today joined server today

[covert cradle]

Thank you, you have a good night too 🤟

[solid surge]

Yall are brain dead

[dusk flower]

It’s not all slop

[lilac roost]

i mean, if you want to make some degen tracks like me, you gotta learn how to write degen disstracks

[olive bridge]

@lilac roost people just gotta stop thinking ai is cheating, think of it like hiring a contractor to build your house, sure you can do it yourself, maybe all the corners will be straigher, and its cheaper in the end, but "was all the time you spent" accompolishing the same thing at 10x 's the investment worth it?

[solid surge]

Ig bro

[olive bridge]

probably not

[uneven hamlet]

That music video was ass

[solid surge]

Yuri is a bum

[regal ocean]

you2comp do you wanna dm, i can show you how to make the bulshti

aka slop

[covert cradle]

Leave us alone 😠

[regal ocean]

this Server has a censor filter btw

it sucks

i hate it so much

[solid surge]

Shut yo bean headed ah up

[lilac roost]

alot of people who say "ai music isn't real music, you dont have talent" are just victims of perpetual sibling rivalry growing up

[gleaming flame]

I appreciate the honesty, I liked it but it definitely could of sounded better.

[regal ocean]

come on lets generate ai slop together dude

you go to suno.ai you type in the lyrics

I am Pissman

I am Pissman

[solid surge]

Sure gng

[regal ocean]

itll be amazing

[olive bridge]

@regal ocean tell me this is ai slop

https://suno.com/s/wLvvqWZgATQki9wN

[autumn coral]

100% because art and music is about the process less than getting things out in 30 min

[lilac roost]

like, if it sounds cool, you like it, ok.
once you find out it's not made by hand, you're like, all, let me downvote you on my smartphone

[young trail]

They're people who've never even tried using AI to make music.
It's not as easy as they think it is.

[regal ocean]

this is ai slop /j

im joking of course

[solid surge]

Ts is ahhh

Yall bums ngl

[olive bridge]

@autumn coralwell i live life once, and 100 hours spent getting the same results as 1 hour is not accomplishment, its called be stuck in the past and being stubborn

[lilac roost]

that doesn't matter though. you're attributing how the substance is made to what the substance can do.
Like, just because you get your substance from a dealer doesn't make it any less effective than if it came from a pharma lab

[dusk flower]

Ik it’s like the whole extended cognition thing: do I need to learn how to use a paper map in order to use Google maps in 2026? Do I need to hand write for communication often in 2026?

[olive bridge]

you don't have to given up your passion, but things will aways eventually have faster ways to accomplish things

[uneven hamlet]

ScoobiedooMaskRevealRydersharp.gif

[ripe mesa]

https://suno.com/s/QQf5Y4iq3Az0NN15 nothing ever stays golden

[solid surge]

Give your music career up bro

Give it up

Yo shi ah

[lilac roost]

like, i dont have musical ability. I can write lyrics, and I like what comes out.
Me publishing it has nothing to do with me saying: "look how cool i am guys, i'm gonna get all the baddies because i'm so famous now".
It's me saying, "hey, here's a bop, you might like it, you might not"

[olive bridge]

if i could stage sing, i'd probably be more into producing my own music more persoally, but i can't sick so im not going to fake like i can

[solid surge]

Give it up bro

[lilac roost]

telling me what to do.

[regal ocean]

(check your dms

[autumn coral]

id rather spend that time learning so that when it comes to it i can make it in 20 and have it sound professional with minimal tools, then be able to say yeah i created this from the ground up

[dusk flower]

Stop telling him what to do

[solid surge]

Ts not going nowhere

[lilac roost]

yall lucky im not

dissin you in bars rn
because if I did, you'd have to have
reading comprehension

[solid surge]

Make me 🤣

[ripe mesa]

I'm feeling hungry

[uneven hamlet]

You know if angel and ride her sharpie would use suno maybe their songs would make money

[dusk flower]

Bruh how tf you want me to do that

You rlly expect me to come over there

[regal ocean]

ai is the future

#metaverse

[solid surge]

Pull up to 5th street

[autumn coral]

ur so right

[olive bridge]

@autumn coral still the caveat is, if you didn't produce the instruents, you sampled with loops that are either digital or recorded ahead of time, and you can't use that to produce newer better music, because a recording is set, it can't be improved or changed from the source

your limited to drop in loop production

[viral gull]

In which city?

[regal ocean]

we are going to get replaced by robots, humans are obsolete beep boop

[dusk flower]

I’d like to think of AI as automated sampling

[olive bridge]

^

[solid surge]

You a bum.

[lilac roost]

definitely. farming samples

[dusk flower]

Instead of looking up the samples yourself, you’re using an AI. It’s already been trained on the samples.

That you would be looking for

[olive bridge]

as soon as suno gets to the point of flac quality instrument production, DAWS will be dead

[lilac roost]

we dont namecall... you can have your quips and anti-ai points. but you're arguing in bad-faith rn.

[dusk flower]

When I’m making sound effects, it’s actually real pain in the ass to do

[autumn coral]

yeah hence why you either program stuff yourself or learn how to play the instrument so you dont rely on loops

[regal ocean]

ai is fascinating but i wouldnt use it professionally

[dusk flower]

I agree with this because when I used to use band lab, I understood song structure, but I did not understand the actual melodies or how to make them or music theory at all

[lilac roost]

loops are simple. you can do alot with vocals outside of loops. the listeners really dont care if they aren't listening for juxtapositioned technical work

[dusk flower]

But I get the sense most Suno users aren’t after music theory mastery

[regal ocean]

i think the only sample loops i find useful are drum loops

[olive bridge]

@lilac roost then solo daw production doesn't matter in your sentiment

[ripe mesa]

Just ignore him, some creeps like him just want some attention

[lilac roost]

that's really not that helpful. depends on what you're trying to do

[olive bridge]

if people don't care then professional or ai doesn't matter

[lilac roost]

like, music theory, in rap?
vs EDM

[dusk flower]

Yeah it does depend

[cosmic thorn]

https://suno.com/s/lDSQkwyVJCii37Vu

[olive bridge]

i do custom car audio that costs 10-15k$, yet i'll get people who straight up tell me they can't tell the difference, when there is a massie margin of difference

[regal ocean]

rap is easier to compose than jazz

[dusk flower]

But for me it’s sometime just an “I had this idea of a song but I don’t wanna spend months if not years mastering the making of”

[olive bridge]

that why I don't put in effort where it doesn't count

[regal ocean]

it really does depend

[lilac roost]

i'm just giving them the lay of the land that's all

i dont mind it

[olive bridge]

@regal ocean depends, a catchy beat is hard to pull off, rap isn't just lyrics, and there is 20 styles of lyric rap that can be had in additon to 20 styles of rap beats

imo rap is hard as f to pull off

[regal ocean]

im talking about rap instrumental

oh

[uneven hamlet]

@rydersharprandomazzprod

really needs suno to make their next Taylor swift hit

[lilac roost]

i mean that depends too right? if you're into jazz, you can manifest a song just by vibing in the studio with piano, guitar, bass guitar, whatever else, and craft with stream of consciousness. it doesnt need to be boiled down to rocket science

[uneven hamlet]

It’s really helpful to be honest

[neon spindle]

ai should enhance you, not replace you. i for example nearly always can feel if ai is used, which is fine in here for example, as its the place to do exactly that, show each other how good we can make suno sound. but in the real world the normal not insider people will get oversaturated by too much standard ai output. as its not just us in here making ai music. its millions of songs that are generated. And to get the bit of extra spice in the music it needs YOUR creativity.

[olive bridge]

@regal ocean let me make you an example

[regal ocean]

sure thing

[regal ocean]

i wish i could just vibe with my bass guitar

im not skilled enough to do that yet

lol

[lilac roost]

if you craft something, at what point does it stop becoming music, and more becomes an obsession of perfecting something, that a listener wouldnt even notice?

[regal ocean]

ehhh

i mean i think that applies to basses

you dont hear the bass, you "feel" it more

[lilac roost]

right

[autumn coral]

hence why i think things like stem separation is a great thing but full on generation takes the fun out of creating esp when a lot of the things you can do with suno are replicable by a proprietary daw especially in its early stages

[lilac roost]

that's the explorative aspect

[olive bridge]

@regal ocean example 1 https://suno.com/s/bsh4EWgXG6VDfnbP, can you imagine making this in a daw?

[lilac roost]

and exploring music during creation is the pinnacle part of the anti-ai music argument i think.

[pseudo flicker]

hey Pim!! sorry I've been afk, you can show me the song you made of course.

[autumn coral]

yes

[lilac roost]

but like. my rebuttal to that is, and i can gen it, so who cares?
But that's me being dismissive and i dont like to bring that into their argument, but at the same time there's no counterpoint to that.

[neon spindle]

everybody grows with their task, has expectations and goals. ai is still fresh. each one of us basically gives it its own purpose, if you not just make a simple mode song, which is the company vision of how the thing should be used.

[olive bridge]

@autumn coral here's the same song, different rap voice, im just using the same techo styles, https://suno.com/s/JwLcb05QLNIgvyfs

and here's the 3rd variation

see

[covert cradle]

Here’s the link https://suno.com/playlist/25b86982-f5f9-4ccb-9687-e2f907a78573

[olive bridge]

woodhouse

shush

im exmapling

[regal ocean]

chopping vocals, pitching the vocals with automation, synthesizer with filter automation and reverb, electronic drums and bass, etc

i CANT MAKE this exact song but i have an understanding of what you could maybe do

[olive bridge]

3rd example of the same song https://suno.com/s/dQLtwSVwc7msshNT

all rap, all sound different

rap is hard

[lilac roost]

and also on the same vein....
if you only had a composition that was nothing but simple house beat, with whimsical boyband love-song vocals, no real technical delivery....
then why attribute prowess to that at all? It's super super simple. ai can gen tons of those, and it really comes down to lyrics.

[cobalt lava]

HELLO

[uneven hamlet]

So the trolls just got quieted?

[autumn coral]

if you're sending to ask whether you can do this in a daw yeah you could make all 3

[lilac roost]

i mean if you throw big words at them, they kinda get that teacher giving them homework fear and step out

[uneven hamlet]

Getting dms from them lol

[neon spindle]

neutralized by a based discussion instead of just pro contra? unimaginable 😏

[olive bridge]

@autumn coral here try this https://suno.com/s/m5MbnXnRZ3XXmoQ3

[swift granite]

sup people

[tulip rampart]

that really only applies to pop or rap a lot of genres are about instrumental novelty

[lilac roost]

pro contra, gonna add that to my ad absurdum repertoire

[lilac roost]

you say that but you'd be surpriiiiised

[weary bronze]

hello

[tulip rampart]

suprised by what? a lot of genres do not have lyrics and ai cannot really replicate them easily

[lilac roost]

like, oh, my industrial edm?
"oh it's just square waves and riser automation. maybe some sidechained kick feel, ya feel?"
ah but what about deadmau5?
"paintbrushes in all the registers"
makes sense.

[regal ocean]

what i find impressive about suno is that every instrument it generates has a unique character

it doesnt pull from a library and i wish i honestly could play certain instruments it generates as a virtual instrument in my daw because some of them sound pretty rad

[lilac roost]

i oversimplified @tulip rampart and i see what you're saying. lol

[tulip rampart]

yes sorry I didnt mean to be hostile I get what your saying aswell

[olive bridge]

@autumn coral so i took that super fast stutter song and threw it at my ExEcue M Baby song and now its psycho fast rap, and its not bad honestly https://suno.com/s/9LlqibptMtVQv8rU

too pull this off in studio would have taken days/weeks

[autumn coral]

100%, it takes away from the process that truly makes music music. the history of music is built on moments, whether shared or solo. playing instruments in a live setting or spending hours trying to replicate a sound you heard and finally figuring it out, making your most memorable melodies, there's a certain magic thats lost when you aint doing it yourself

[lilac roost]

music is subjective as hail man.

[pseudo flicker]

Which one is it? I see a playlist lol 😅

[lilac roost]

your absolutes arent necessary

[viral gull]

Another false flag at the WH?

[neon spindle]

it is a pretty advanced synthesizer thats also a giant random generator. that is exactly what got me first fascinated in suno. that it doesnt work like any of the synths i had touched in my life... its not FM its not PCM nothing like that... Its weird, odd, random... super fun somehow to just see what comes out from the words, especially the old versions.

[lilac roost]

if someone sends me something and it smacks. i'm adding it to my favorites. i'm not gonna do a phd on it @autumn coral

[regal ocean]

advanced sound generator

[olive bridge]

@autumn coral well, with that sentiment, "theres a certain magic thats lost when you don't make it all yourself", apply that to life and see how far you get

[kind mesa]

I can sing, i play guitar and piano but i still use suno because it helps me move faster

[neon spindle]

Random Sound Materializer 😄

[sinful cape]

Don't get me wrong, I love analyzing music to try and figure out what makes it so good, but at the same time... it destroys the magic.

[lilac roost]

@olive bridge point in case, private equity and business

[olive bridge]

hobbies = short term reward to know you can do it, doesn't mean getting it done faster in another means takes away from the reward or experience

[regal ocean]

it generates all sorts of genres but it cannot do trashcan Percussion or anything like it

[autumn coral]

i have and ive played shows and been in several bands

[sinful cape]

That's the problem with knowing Music Theory. It's cool for writing, but it absolutely destroys the magic of music at the same time.

[regal ocean]

and it makes me so sad

[lilac roost]

thats like being a pharma chemist and saying, we use labs to make fen, and dealers put the magic in substances for their clients.

[shy sierra]

There is music and the performance of music don't confuse them that "magic" is often lost in anything but a live performance

[dusk flower]

Oh yeah, that’s why I compose for scale film soundtracks without actually knowing theory

I don’t let the books bind me

[lilac roost]

"my moonshine is more soulful than the brewery that automates everything at scale"

[sinful cape]

I do nearly all of my composing and writing by ear... if it sounds good, it works.

[regal ocean]

same

[olive bridge]

@autumn coral In 2001 i was studio recording for people, we used beats recorded off beat pedals, added in digital bass back in the day, performed edits and effects manually in cooledit/cubase/fruity loops/ couple others, at the end of the day, mnost of it was digital beats/sounds, = not origional, just maniulated to sound good

[lilac roost]

like the argument only works for organic artists who are also entertainers

[neon spindle]

I think theres a lot in there, especially in the older versions. People say there is no kazoo in there. i 100 percent got one... its rare but there is so many stuff in there.

[autumn coral]

100%, being able to record a song as a group and play it even better live is smth that can never be replaced

[regal ocean]

it can do a jaw harp now

(with multiple generations

[regal ocean]

hell yeah but its hella expensive sadly

[olive bridge]

well if you can sing and play live, then thats cool for (you), but those cannot have suno

[sinful cape]

I can make duck noises with my armpit.

[covert cradle]

Those are the ones that needs the love still

[regal ocean]

thank you madpistol

[kind mesa]

a little perspective, Paul Mccartney couldnt actually play the piano classically, he wasnt a drummer either, but he tinkered to get a sound that he wanted and changed the world. So its not so black and white bro,

[sinful cape]

yw. Always here to give people odd visuals for their head candy.

[autumn coral]

violent femmes played live with an acoustic, acoustic bass, and a drummer who played on a grill lol

[olive bridge]

at the end of this conversation, if people are against suno and ai music, don't be here, don't use it, don't be part of the conversation

[lilac roost]

you cant be a 'fan' to an ai artist, if theres no entertainer unless they are DJing which you know, people will just out the person for DJing ai but oh well.
still, people who talk about the magic in music are really attributing it towards being a fan of the person doing the art.
Without that, you dont have an argument towards a user who gens with AI but never performs it

[olive bridge]

end of cisussion

[autumn coral]

yeah and he also didnt use ai to make it

[olive bridge]

im not here to deate philosphoy of music, if you don't want ai music, then leave and don't use it

[regal ocean]

i wouldl LOVE to play an upright bass someday

[regal ocean]

is this really head candy

[olive bridge]

fortunately for music, ai vs daw is black and white

[regal ocean]

/j,

[olive bridge]

so make a choice

[lilac roost]

we're just folks genning if we only have our lyrics and we can share and chill
And i think thats where the magic really is

[sinful cape]

Agreed. There will always be value in organically written/performed music. AI music is a natural progression where you take the art form and combine it with technology.

[autumn coral]

ig at that point i ask why do it but if the goal is just to generate stuff and never connect with an audience then thats understandable

[lilac roost]

if i had an audience, the second my next album drops, they'd tomato my ah on stage lmao, because it so fringe

[regal ocean]

lol

[autumn coral]

daws have ai stem separation in them so not really

[olive bridge]

this conversation is like all the 1d10t's on facebook crying over data centers, accept everything they do use make and live with is all in the cloud in data centers, you can't have it oth ways

[shy sierra]

I am mostly a writer to me it's my tools that make it possible to get what's in my head on the page past that its gen and tweak and cut and patch then get mad because a random pull plus my tagging just beat my hours of work but the ear wins the fight every time as I don't intend to perform live.

[sinful cape]

I also have a feeling that the reason we are being heavily visited/watched by Aliens right now is because AI, and eventually AGI, is probably a really bad thing that leads to the doom of species in the universe.

[lilac roost]

now thats what im talking about

XD

[neon spindle]

AI isnt AI... AI has 100 faces... Its Machine learning and just some usecases are... questionable... Most of them are neat.

[autumn coral]

not everyone uses cloud or wants data centers to be built

[sinful cape]

In its current form, yes. It won't always be like this.

This is the introduction.

[lilac roost]

bring the great roko basilisk, i not care.

[olive bridge]

everything and i mean EVERYthing is in the cloud

[regal ocean]

with daws, ai is used as a real tool, whether it be stem seperation or mixing plugins or whatever, they make your life slightly easier in certain aspects

with suno, it generates your, track

[lilac roost]

skynet is gonna meet the IRS and quiver

[sinful cape]

People don't understand just how much they use the cloud, day in and day out. EVERYTHING is in the cloud nowadays.

[lilac roost]

skynet: i seem to have encountered an SCP level threat. im so sorry. i'll just rm -rf root

[regal ocean]

i like vsts that use ai for certain stuff like mixing

its interesting

[autumn coral]

not particularly

[olive bridge]

cellphone calls, gps, every app on your phone, your sasung fridge, your smart watch, your ganes, your email, stocks, finance, all of it is all the in cloud

[sinful cape]

"Hello Skynet. We noticed you haven't filed your taxes in... checks papers ever. If you would please come with us..." -IRS, maybe.

[neon spindle]

my windows solitaire game doesnt work when its offline... solitaire! I was a bit shocked when i saw the error pop up 😄

[olive bridge]

hell my company has 3 onsite internat replicated data centers

[regal ocean]

not my sausage fridge

samsung fridge*

[olive bridge]

and were just a gas corporation

[pseudo flicker]

Listened to a few so far, The Painted Door is my favorite so far

[lilac roost]

skynet: I am data
IRS: so are people...
skynet: dont tell me you...
IRS: yes. anyway, go sit in the lobby with morpheus

[shy sierra]

https://suno.com/s/ZgtS2ijeplZIsWeS

[regal ocean]

that stores your companys information right

i think thats a bit different than an ai Datacenter

[lilac roost]

skynet: hey morpheus... can I - the purple one please?

[olive bridge]

our inastructure is both local and cloud, microsoft 365, azure, oracle, crm, workday, 1000's of apps, all cloud based

[regal ocean]

unless idk its using as much resources as an ai datacenter

idk

[olive bridge]

you can't go without data centers or the internet would cease

i mean tiktok alone probably consumes and stores about 30 petabytes of video data a day

[lilac roost]

you'd be surprised how much an AI dc doesnt use unless it's for training.

[sinful cape]

Morpheus: The red pill... or the blue pill... which will you choose?
Tweaker: Bro, my pills are sooooooooo much better. Want to try one?

[lilac roost]

lmao

[olive bridge]

each mp3 suno creates is 4-10MB, i generate 100-1000 songs a night, thats 10GB of data i use just myself

[autumn coral]

gps and cell communications are not handled through the cloud. i store everything locally and use cash, dont have or use a smart watch or a smart fridge, for a lot of people yes they use cloud. most websites and companies have their own servers though and dont fully depend on cloud services to operate

[regal ocean]

ibsee

[regal ocean]

1000 songs a night?????

[lilac roost]

datacenter companies: we gotta do something. oh i know, lets take all the cctv data, live in realtime, and track and predict everything

[olive bridge]

@autumn coral I'll put my 120k $ salary on the table that says if you shut off every data center it would take less then 10 minutes and all cell communication would cease

gps woudl exist but would no longer get upadtes

[lilac roost]

google: arent yall checks notes 10 yrs behind us?

[olive bridge]

eventually it would fail

[regal ocean]

i wouldnt want all datacenters to fall because they existed before ai and stuff lol

[lilac roost]

let me buy some options first man sheesh

[olive bridge]

lucky for me, i worked for At&t I just happened to know a thing or 2

[covert cradle]

The Painted Door was my vintage/retro entry for spark 😊

[regal ocean]

imagine if googles datacenters were shut off

[latent wagon]

Just wanted to hop into this convo to mention, I also love Mewgenics dack.

[regal ocean]

finally someone recognizes me 🥹

[olive bridge]

@lilac roost you would definitely make your oney back, just saying

[lilac roost]

you thought those were the datacenters?

[autumn coral]

sounds like you'll be out of a salary soon cuz that only applies to wifi calls

[olive bridge]

😉

[sinful cape]

Try basically instant. Nearly all communication PERIOD would cease in a matter of a minute.

[olive bridge]

@autumn coralbeen in IT for 30 years, you wanna do this

[latent wagon]

Best game of the world.

[swift granite]

some of the songs suno makes with no style can be pretty dang awesome

[regal ocean]

the ones used for everything else that isnt ai

[sinful cape]

Without data centers, we would be back in the dark ages in a matter of minutes.

[regal ocean]

dude yes

[neon spindle]

if more people would have the guts to say : hmm actual buttons in cars were neat and made us crash less... and screens not so much, lets not buy that... cars would have buttons again.

[regal ocean]

yes

[lilac roost]

idk about dark ages. maybe the gen z would be, without YT and discord. and would have to go back to irl interactions

[cobalt lava]

안녕하세요

[regal ocean]

i dont speak chinese sorry

[lilac roost]

say it with your chest

[regal ocean]

or is that korean?

[lilac roost]

jk

[latent wagon]

that's korean

[regal ocean]

okay thank you

[lilac roost]

LOL

[latent wagon]

the moon runes that have circles is the korean language.

[lilac roost]

i thought they replied in all caps korean XD

i was like they have caps??

XD

[autumn coral]

radio communications and datacenters are not directly tied, if you've been in IT for 30 years i feel like you'd know that landline phones and cellphones were not ran off of a datacenter. they run through MSCs, if all cloud datacenters shut down cellphones would not be affected

[sinful cape]

So many infrastructure functions rely on data center communications now... "private government clouds" is a thing.

[sturdy adder]

Guys, MODERATORS cant help me,please you help me, why i pay for suno premium, if i cant reload music, To remake it??

[lilac roost]

welp. palwintier about to have to change their name.

[olive bridge]

@autumn coral no one uses land line analog anymore

and a lot of them systems are now digitally routed

[regal ocean]

do people still use analog gear (music

[latent wagon]

Because you're a good person doing charity service to Suno.

[mossy junco]

stop pinging me nerd

larper

[lilac roost]

uh... you uh...

[olive bridge]

phone numbers are spoofed these days, that isn't done with analog technology

its digital

voip handoff

[sinful cape]

@sturdy adder #ticket-help #support-guide

[olive bridge]

your 20 years behind the time

[young trail]

Can I still ping you?

[mossy junco]

YES!

[frosty onyx]

U CAN!

[lilac roost]

nerd? that's my line ;_;

[frosty onyx]

HI JAW!!!

[covert cradle]

She probably didn’t mean to ping you 😄
Glad to see your name is back

[latent wagon]

MEKAAAAaaaaaaaaaaa!!!

[regal ocean]

youre the First person ive ever seen here use larper

[young trail]

@mossy junco ping ping ping

[regal ocean]

w larps

[olive bridge]

we'd have to go back to ham radio communication without the internet

radio's pull all there music from the cloud

[unborn pecan]

Whassss goin' on up in here?

[regal ocean]

suno ai

[sinful cape]

wait, wait, wait, you're saying you want to upload actual music written by other people? Something that's strictly against Suno's TOS?

[frosty onyx]

hi pim!!!!!

[silk oak]

https://tenor.com/view/job-jumpscare-job-application-job-meme-job-jumpscare-gif-5102454363566376023

[olive bridge]

you might isten to fm broadcast but they are streaming it from the soruce

[autumn coral]

dawg if you're connected to a cell tower using a sim card its not using VOIP unless you're using smth like discord or specifically wifi calling/a service like google voice...

[silk oak]

Rip

[frosty onyx]

TUNDRA!

[olive bridge]

@autumn coralLOL

[frosty onyx]

@young trail ping ping ping

[kind mesa]

you think cell networks are analog bro, its all voip now

[lilac roost]

imagine their reply: yes

[olive bridge]

@autumn coral your phone only works because it has internet

[sinful cape]

fair. Have a nice day sir.

[silk oak]

Also the v4.5 model is fine

[olive bridge]

LTE 4 and 5 made sure of that

[latent wagon]

Yesn't.

[frosty onyx]

my phone works because i have wizard magic that powers it

[kind mesa]

is there a mod to deal with the trolls

[olive bridge]

when 3G wa retiered that was the end of analog

[shy sierra]

Us hams would have packet relay back up and running oh wait some never stopped 😆

[regal ocean]

is there a difference between v4.5-all and v4.5?

[kind mesa]

the person just wants to kill the chat

[silk oak]

5 songs a day aint bad either

[covert cradle]

Hi 👋 I should be sleeping by now don’t want to yet
Few minutes more then I go soon

[frosty onyx]

hi im the anti-troll mod

[latent wagon]

mine is a leprechaun, but he is getting too old. Also can't really hold hostage his pot of gold anymore.

[young trail]

Yes there is

[silk oak]

No

[regal ocean]

amazing

[lilac roost]

but have you tried 5k songs a day?

[olive bridge]

@shy sierra i've studied some text message based setups over ham

[frosty onyx]

you must sleep!!!!