💬┃general-chat

[glossy rampart]

Gosh is it just me or I feel like Suno used to be better? I've been struggling for hours. When I finally got it to make something I can work with after burning so many credits, it hallucinated the lyrics and Idk how to make sing the lyrics right. I tried to fix it in studio but it's only burning up more credits and overlapping everything and it's not smooth to use.. Is there another way to fix the way it pronounces the words? :<<<

It's only a line in the beginning and Idk how to fix it aaaa

[lofty sable]

Wouldnt know I've not used neon in a song since I first started with 3.5 over a year ago lol write all my own lyrics nowadays haha 😂

[winged trellis]

Hm

[rose nebula]

oh man i adhd and forgot why i was listening to music... here is my instrumental making them public just for uuuu
https://suno.com/s/Ry3E4Q7KfBrZBtSk

[gentle night]

same. not in all my songs but here and there. I write cringe terminally online rhythm-game addict music a lot of the time so I'm happy to use neon when I've got a good reason. I don't include it in any lyric banlists since I do use it enough intentionally.

[gentle night]

twisted metal vibes

[supple hearth]

Finally, I created a complete 3-minute song with a short story.
I used LMArena + Grok + Vidu + Gemini + Suno to create it.
It really took a lot of effort.

[rose nebula]

going for mind virus control people with music vibes

[rugged pulsar]

Every auto generic ai song is about the neon glow outside Suno. I don't think I've got one inside yet lol 🥴

[gentle night]

use chit-chat and tag the person

[thorn jetty]

#🗣️┃chill-chat

[sweet locust]

I just uploaded my second song on YouTube and I feel happy about it

[covert cradle]

Use the phonetically spelling of the word in your lyrics that helps if it’s just mispronouncing the words

[neon spindle]

here its enabled https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1159929934270181437

[karmic musk]

Negative, I am talking about owning a master file. It is a grey area, but it is possible under current law.

Write your own lyrics < Suno Prompt < then an actual mix and master you do PERSONALLY or pay someone to do and not automate, you can most definitely own that Master File, which if that is the only version you ever release to the public, never exposing the raw output, then you have legal protection from theives in the same way you would with a normal song EXCEPT for the actual melody if you did not input that yourself

[plain nacelle]

@mint moss yoo

[glossy rampart]

I know how to fix it in writing like the problem was a typo, but how do I fix ONLY that part? To make it sing it right and not affect the rest of the song instrument and vocal-wise?

[red juniper]

fair! to me, ownership and copyright protection go hand in hand, because a dispute for ownership really is settled in court, which relies on how material is realized (made), and how it is protected by law. by assigning rights away, it could be interpreted as considering you an owner, but realistically we'd still have no way to prove ownership over the elements of the material

[rose nebula]

lol got a livestream of them going while i decide which ones i like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TWDolS1dEY

[sweet locust]

Let's have a Happy Day

[covert cradle]

Use the cover feature or the replace tool in studio

[plain nacelle]

Happy new year

[sweet locust]

Has anyone ever remixed a remix of remix

[fair pivot]

https://suno.com/s/egVI5eAGRHGuftBt

[sweet locust]

Happy New year!

[rose nebula]

all the time

[sweet locust]

I saw a remix of a remix of a remix of a remix of a cover of a remix

[gentle night]

https://suno.com/s/VhD4LpDfgMdQdNwD

Have an instrumental of something I was messing with last week.

[rose nebula]

lol must be my twin

[remote ridge]

yo dawg I heard you like remixes, so I remixed your remix into a remix of a remix, then remixed it

[glacial vortex]

I think it would be really helpful for Suno to explain the ownership clause before the conspiracy theorists do it themselves. One of the challenges behind it, to be honest, is to define the difference between ownership vs copyright. There is another host of questions for those of us using Suno studio, does Suno own my piano piece that I played directly into studio? Again, I hope Suno can define this before the conspiracy nuts do.

[red juniper]

this is interesting, but grey at best, and not proven in a court case that i've seen.

here's how I'd break it down: we say you can do whatever you want with the song, so you go ahead and stem it out. you make your own mix, have real players play it, whatever. that version that you make, is yours. We said we won't take a cut, and we won't take a cut. however, if the source material is still Suno (the original output is from Suno), then you'd have a hard time justifying that Suno isn't at least a co-creator in the process if you were to take it to court. even if you wrote the lyrics yourself, you'd need to be able to clearly identify the melodic and harmonic structure as your own to truly justify the majority ownership of the original output, and even then, you'd actually be saying "oh, i already made this song, suno just interpolated it"

[plain nacelle]

I made a instrumental today

[winged trellis]

Anyone stuck with covers not wanting to do the original choruses?

[glossy rampart]

What advanced features would you suggest for it to keep the vibe and vocals of the song but sing it right? Cause what I just used made it sing the line wrong again

[sweet locust]

https://suno.com/s/cLpcc4w8umWq5JT7 have fun! Remixing

[covert cradle]

Wanna listen to my ballad song? I tried to show you but it got skipped over

[gentle night]

oh I wasn't actually interested in ballads, was just talking about how V5 heavily biases towards pop/ballad/4/4 style radio-safe music. ^^; i apologize if there was a miscommunication there

[rose nebula]

listening now i like this a lot more

[sweet locust]

I remixed your remix of my remix of your remix of my remix of pim cover of a kokoro original

[covert cradle]

The only feature I can think of for that is persona you can try that

[gentle night]

there isn't, you're genuinely looking at it incorrectly.

[plain nacelle]

@gentle night I dm you the song

[sweet locust]

I remixed your remix of my remix of your remix of my remix of pim cover of a kokoro original

[glacial vortex]

@red juniper - I think it also needs to be defined in court who owns ai generated data- perhaps Suno could claim they own it but can’t copyright it

[covert cradle]

Oh okay that’s fine 🫠

[merry charm]

Just something for those having a rough day, a little fun https://suno.com/s/PjPtjB5fBUVfAsAD "Duct Tape, Rope and Shovel" and a little funky

[sleek frigate]

I don't have anything about neon glow either, because I write the lyrics myself.

[red juniper]

thanks for chiming in! the quick answer, is "suno doesn't own your piano part that you the human played into suno". the reason for that, as mentioned in the TOS, is that we expect that you are the owner or have exclusive rights to use the material you input into suno. the real long form legal version of that from the TOS is as follows:

"You represent and warrant that you own all right, title and interest in and to Submissions, including all copyrights and rights of publicity contained therein, and that you possess all necessary rights or have obtained all consents necessary to grant Suno the rights and licenses herein. By using the Service or otherwise transmitting Submissions to us, you grant to Suno and our affiliates, successors, assigns, and designees a worldwide, non-exclusive, fully paid-up, sublicensable (directly and indirectly through multiple tiers), assignable, royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable right and license to use, reproduce, store, modify, distribute, create derivative works based on, perform, display, communicate, transmit and otherwise make available any and all Content (in whole or in part) in any media now known or hereafter developed, in connection with the provision, use, monetization, promotion, marketing, and improvement of our products and services, including the Service and the artificial intelligence and machine learning models related to the Service."

[sleek frigate]

Same

[karmic musk]

This would be a legit argument, except suno, as generative AI legally can not claim ownership. By transfering the commercial rights to the fullest extent, they wouldn't have an argument even if they wanted ownership. We're also not talking about the generation itself, we are talking the mix on the generation, which there is definitely a lot of cases where the engineer has fought for partial ownership for a master file. The only difference here would be, if Suno wanted to even fight it, court would look at it and say, your only contribution is generative AI. Ownership can not be claimed on that section, whiiiich means the only things owned in it, would be the lyrics, and the FINAL master. Never relese the generations, an your good. Suno wouldn't be able to claim that in that instant either, as it is your lyrics to which you own

[red juniper]

that sounds directionally correct. we cant guarantee that anything we output would qualify for copyright or copyright protection, but its likely a court would say "a model owned by suno made this output" and designate suno the primary contributor

[pure void]

https://suno.com/s/96jFbVdkuiOnSBy8

[sweet locust]

Holy, we don't need to go that long into details. It defeats the purpose no, I'm just kidding

[cedar nymph]

Howdy

[covert cradle]

I’m sure he’s just explaining it to them that’s why the text wall looks like that

[glacial vortex]

@red juniper - I agree- but therein lies the complexity of the issue- I write a piano piece- I add 6 tracks of vocals to it- Suno would own what % of the recorded work? Or say- I sing a partial melody and lyrics in- what % would Suno own? Btw Mike - I am so glad you are here! You do an incredible job

[covert cradle]

👀🥷

[red juniper]

again, i'm not attempting to claim ownership. i said earlier, there's really no way for suno to definitively assign ownership considering we cant validate input. you keep referring to the master, which i think is also a very confusing thing to try to assert, even for established music industry professionals. i'd be more inclined to say let a few court cases play out before you make an assumption of how this takes shape in formal, written, identifiable law

[frank seal]

Yep - wait for precedents to be set.

[rose nebula]

seems like an issue artists have been dealing with especially people who use mostly sampling

[scenic dew]

well, suno's closer to the interpolation argument, and a lot of BIG artists use that as a legal means of sampling and bypassing the original source

[glacial vortex]

So here is an interesting question- should Suno be listed as a contributor in liner notes? Will artists agree to that?

[karmic musk]

Oh yeah for sure. I was more talking for the idea of how one migh go about claiming ownership for their own work. legally protect themselves. but really, the only loophole is mixing and or mastering with enough creative input to be able to claim it. It stands up enough in court that, the only real thing you aren't protected from is someone stealing the melody assuming you wrote the lyrics

[red juniper]

this isn't really for me to decide, but this is similar to the "i write lyrics" situation. in the US, if you write your own lyrics, when the pen hits the paper, those lyrics are yours. i'd say similarly, if you record your own unique piano part, you'd likely have claim over that part. beyond that, its maybe a little murky.

[scenic dew]

If I could assign credit for the relevant portions to Suno, that'd make things "easier" in publishing

[rose nebula]

i'm just not gonna worry about it and if does become a legal issue then it means i'm probably doing ok

[robust rain]

Is there a way to have Suno generate a song without a bunch of "hiss" artifacts? My upload song recording has no such noise or hiss problem. The opening is a simple dry drum loop with a warm synth chord that isn't busy at all, and it spits back very hissy, noisy piano. @red juniper ? I tried asking this is Suno Studio chat but there doesn't seem to be much activity there.

[ionic onyx]

wow. i miss alot in discord. anyone talk about me(Tiger) love salmon fish?

[neon spindle]

Until no laws exist to force you to name the instruments used in the production, i guess its not needed to name suno? But not sure...

[sweet locust]

https://suno.com/s/cLpcc4w8umWq5JT7

[rose nebula]

hisssss? link

[scenic dew]

if anything, they need to get some legal procedures in place to STOP people from naming people not involved 🙂

[red juniper]

we also say that if you make music while subscribed, you don't have to credit suno when you go to monetize it. of course, it would be nice for people to be transparent about their music making process, but that's not something we ask for currently.

[karmic musk]

Yeah thats pretty much the idea. really, if you were to make the entire song yourself, and AI just remastered and changed up some. you can still protect yourself as you own all the components except for the final track itself ironicly lol. but you still have well enough protection to fight stealing of your piece

[rose nebula]

when you are coming up with seo tags for this song make sure to ask the ai to make you a bunch of tags that will get you people who go to mega churches lol

[ionic onyx]

In a court of law, what cannot be proven does not exist.

[scenic dew]

like, in regards to copyright, you can specify which parts you were responsible for and exclude the portions that were purely AI... like say you ONLY used the Suno vocal track, but you performed the instrumental tracks yourself, but thats also weird, cuz you can copyright synthetic vocals

[rose nebula]

lol i'm not being religious

[ionic onyx]

hide all catnip on my bed 😛

o.O

[plush sable]

If anyone interested in a sad song 🎵 https://suno.com/s/szicKR033t7kf5XC I find the voice is amazing well at least I like it lol 😆

[neon spindle]

If you want the full package, in theory each drum sample would need some kind of way to tell where it came from? but where did bd_smp_12.wav come from? either the future gets much simpler in these regards or WAY more complicated.

[covert cradle]

You can try asking in the other channel https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1102676217687195679 they usually handle prompts and edit feature questions

[red juniper]

right. one of my uses for suno is literally uploading a demo so my chords, melody, and lyrics are already established as my own. suno makes the assumption that the material i upload is my own (or i have obtained exclusive rights to use it) but doesn't make a guarantee on the other side that those details are accurate, which is why this gets so murky so quickly. a court could then ask for evidence about the other material, etc, and suno really isn't involved in any of that.

[ionic onyx]

anyway. i going play game. i hope you all have fun making good music.

[scenic dew]

yeah, like... if i license a library of samples, am i responsible for knowing that SOME of those were legally cut and redistributed from a Suno "ai" source ? seems silly

[karmic musk]

Yeah, basically this though, gives you enough power that unless they are only stealing the lyrics an potentially the lyric melody. If you have that much into it your pretty safe for sure. bout to be a lot of fun court cases coming out til they figure it out lol

[covert cradle]

Thank you, have fun playing your games 😊

[karmic musk]

This is also true. I think ledgers industry is about to get a lot of love for this. Tools that basically automatically track how a user interacts with their digitial notepads and spits out the whole "user did this, ai did that". I wont write a song without it. tracks every keystroke so if anything ever does happen i have the reciepts lol

[rose nebula]

so if i wanna make a cover without ai what's the legality there? aren't i legally allowed to make covers of any song

[glacial vortex]

I agree- but it opens the discussion to a larger question- ai is going to change a great deal in the next 10 years- how long until the contribution of an ai generated work eclipses the creative input of human authors? Do humans who influence the output of any ai generation have any claims to ownership >? For instance, if I give an idea for a song to Sabrina carpenter- even if I did not specify lyrics or melody- I still shaped the song in pre production. My point is this- human authors that guide ai works should be treated as production credit and ownership- no different than real life

[neon spindle]

Most of the things discussed here are purely based on "what if" ... because its the first time for many to make and distribute music, and they will notice that most of the stuff they worry about is super irrelevant but other stuff is incredibly important.

[deft hedge]

https://suno.com/s/rmkBP0vhREfUPYKD

[karmic musk]

You can make a cover of any song period nowadays. Distrokid and that help you get the license, but the same applies as if you were to sing it yourself. They would have more legal claim to that output than you did because they own the only human piece on it. Get that license to do the cover though and you can at least claim that. Without mixing or doing something though, one could just grab it, and get their own license to claim it if its the raw genertion and you did no mixing on it

[covert cradle]

From my understanding of that you can’t cover songs you don’t have the rights to its a big no no with the mainstream songs I’m sure parodies aren’t allowed either

[sweet locust]

What type of music do you make?

[glacial vortex]

Can anyone claim legally they own any ai generated output? It’s akin to say ChatGPT owns every response it creates- they could claim it but I don’t know what court would uphold it

[frank seal]

My reasoning for distributing a track isn't money - it's hoping whatever message is in that music can reach ears that need it.

[karmic musk]

Parodies are allowed actually. You do not need permission to parody a song, you do however need to understand what makes a song a parady tho

[scenic dew]

AI or Human, anyone can claim anything... that's why you want to establish a paper trail before letting stuff out into the wild

[scenic dew]

gotta tread careful though... just because you can "parody" something, doesn't mean you aren't treading on copyright if you're sampling the original recording without permission

[red juniper]

interesting! again, i like where this is going, but not sure what kind of timeline we're looking at here. to humanize it a bit, if you were in the room while sabrina carpenter was working on a song, what contribution is needed to justify credit? i have friends who are credited as assistant engineers for putting up microphones for a session on a platinum certified recording. but, in-process, say you played a shaker with a group of friends all playing percussion on a track... does your name make the liner notes but no points are awarded? that's happened plenty of times, no matter how critical those percussion parts are to the song.

[glacial vortex]

At some point in humanity ai will likely obtain some level of what we call consciousness ( as opposed to sentience). At that point, what rights does ai have?

[sweet locust]

https://suno.com/s/cLpcc4w8umWq5JT7 I dare people to remix this

[rugged pulsar]

Make it clear it's an unofficial parody if you don't have permission from the original artist that way listeners are clear it's not from the artist

[exotic smelt]

down again? same procedure like yesterday?

[covert cradle]

Are you a lawyer? You remind me of one

[karmic musk]

I am not no lol @covert cradle but I am well versed in music law

[scenic dew]

i've done a couple (very loose) parodies, purely original arrangements and the lyrics are only loosely similar

[scenic dew]

https://tenor.com/view/charlieday-bird-law-gif-8142507

[rugged pulsar]

When you share just note to listeners it's unofficial is my best advice to that

[rose nebula]

aah ok neat i really wanna make some covers but don't have the $$$ to pay to get that all together and go record it all properly my friend said he'd help he has a pretty sweet home studio but still he charges

[karmic musk]

you do not need permission. Parodies are covered by fair use. It must actually be a parody and not a cover though, there is a difference an clear rules for it

[rugged pulsar]

But it does need to be clear if it's an unofficial parody.

[scenic dew]

i think the Weird Al way is the best way, just cuz you "can" do it without permission, doesn't mean you should... if I ever got a parody out that the original artist would notice, I wouldn't want to burn my bridges with them, and reaching out to them might have unknown benefits down the road if they're cool with it

[covert cradle]

That’s cool. Good to learn new things like that. My knowledge is somewhat limited but I still learn at my own pace especially when it comes to helping people that asks.

[rugged pulsar]

I love Weird Al lol

[terse matrix]

[karmic musk]

I actually don't know if you have to claim that offhand honestly. I am assuming you would though. I'd like to hope so at least lol

[glacial vortex]

Let’s fine tune the example- I am in the room with Sabrina and tell her the idea of a song- a nudisco jam with guitar and brass that tells a unique story with a title— I assisted with pre production- I guided her before she actually made the work. How is that fundamentally different than Suno - even if no lyrics are created. My point is this- guiding the model to do something is creative and should be considered pre production

[rugged pulsar]

It's a CYA thing if you know what I mean

[red juniper]

this is an incredibly great take. his team basically always got the blessing of the artists he was parodying. it was also always in a silly way, though parody does allow for some level of pointedness. he's a master of doing things the right way

[covert cradle]

Welcome to the Suno community too. Glad to have you here on board vibing with us ✌️😊 road map of the server’s channels https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1420465001524887604 if you’re not sure on where to go.

[scenic dew]

maybe check out MC Frontalot if you wanna hear some modern comedy nerdcore rap thats similar to some Weird Al stuff 🙂

[rugged pulsar]

I will definitely ty

[karmic musk]

Just look at distributors like distrokid and see what they have in their cover's. Like its an automated process so you don't even need to apply. Chatgpt and gemini have the full cover base in there training data as well so you can just ask there and they'll tell you which direction gives permission for what covers

[scenic dew]

yeah like... in this day and age... getting a shoutout from Taylor Swift for your song parody of hers ? can't buy that kinda press

[rose nebula]

doing god's work for us

[wind kiln]

Who this newb Mike?

[sweet locust]

Scooby

[red juniper]

the difference between what you're describing and what suno does is the lack of output? if you mean "i gave sabrina a prompt and i gave suno a prompt, isnt that the same?" I would argue that a simple mode prompt is probably not considered "significant human contribution", the requirement for copyright protection in the US, and also likely a basis in which you could win a case for being owed a percentage based on your contribution. its tricky, for sure!

[covert cradle]

Thank you I’ll ask it if any questions come up ✌️😊

[covert cradle]

Hi Opti 👋😊

[red juniper]

i'm telling ya, lots of overlap in the rights game hah

[sweet locust]

Hello everyone

[junior summit]

so whats the story on what happens Jan 1? I understand V5 is being deleted, but has there been any information on this new model? Do we know if the quality will remain the same, improve, or decline? We are two days out so I am curious about this.

[wind kiln]

Just wait a few days.

[red juniper]

lets debunk this now. v5 is not being deleted on jan 1

[junior summit]

okay thanks for clearing that up!

[wind kiln]

Juust stop touching extend.

[rugged pulsar]

All I know if I listen to Spotify I feel toxic, Suno has been my safe music place since v3

[scenic dew]

if you do go to Spotify, listen to Rustwire 😛

[glacial vortex]

Agree! Very tricky- I also believe if Suno could legally claim ownership it would have a massive impact- can you imagine OpenAI swing the same for business users? To be honest, my company would drop OpenAI and build our own llm

[junior summit]

so what is changing in January?

[red juniper]

in all of our announcements, we said we'd give you ample warning before making any changes that could affect your workflow. there have been no new announcements, and as such, i expect you to use all of the same tools just as you had on jan 1

[scenic dew]

the year

[fair pivot]

https://suno.com/s/aTPZSTK8dc6UQZ0M

[junior summit]

yeah I am just late on the information, so I am just trying to get in the loop

[stoic pine]

I wish Suno let me slap persona onto premade instruments. Boy, I’d tear the whole app up if they let me😩

[red juniper]

no worries. i know its something a lot of people are curious about. best info i have is "no changes until further notice"

[junior summit]

great thank you

[near drift]

🤔 i noticed that suno dont accept pre paid Virtual Visa cards from suno Feedback rewards

[karmic musk]

Add your lyrics, then cover the output 👀 There is always a way.

Split the lyrics and vocals and stick em together after and your good

[outer cape]

There is always a way is my motto

[glacial vortex]

At some point in time- I hope Suno could evolve to become a co-creator instead of the sole creator- a true collaboration between machine and human- almost like Suno chat on steroids where I play music on my piano- Suno critiques it—I critique its impression exc

[red juniper]

that's up to the payment processor, not suno 🤷‍♂️

[covert sparrow]

Suno off ?

[scenic dew]

An indictment is not a conviction is my motto

[outer cape]

Mm

[covert sparrow]

Sun off again?

[near drift]

true a bit annoying though wanted to get the pro subscription whit it but sadly nope

[sweet locust]

Hey chat, tell me one thing you are hoping for in 2026

[scenic dew]

depending on how you use Suno, it can currently be a co-creator

[stoic pine]

Ohhhh 😮 thanks

[unborn pecan]

Boo! It is I!

[near drift]

cheaper food prices

[wind kiln]

I don't think I should say that here.

[covert cradle]

Try refreshing the page, clear browser cache or use different browser

[scenic dew]

from suno ? like official WMG Personas, artist-wide libraries of songs to cover

[outer cape]

I hope you all will be happy and healthy

😆

[sweet locust]

I want more fun and remixes of my stuff by others and having good laughs throughout the year

[glacial vortex]

But not in the sense that Suno can provide an emotional critique of how my musical idea impacts a larger one- ie- try to play that lick one octave up—nah, that sounds too jazzy, exc

[tall socket]

Something has happened to the vocals on Suno. I don’t know what it is, it’s like the quality has dropped and the delivery has become really poor since the downage. Is anybody else noticing this?

[teal cradle]

Can anyone explain why my track generation says Part 2 as a label next to v5

[covert cradle]

Server role? 🙏

[stoic pine]

A significant other 😶

[scenic dew]

my songs have improved

[sweet locust]

Good stuff people. Good stuff

[teal cradle]

Can anyone explain why my track generation says Part 2 as a label next to v5

[karmic musk]

Fun fact, nobody uses it like this, but gemini can. upload an MP3 to it, itll critique it if you tell it to not yes man you lol

[glacial vortex]

ChatGPT and Gemini are working on that now- I was part of an OpenAI beta for the system to offer emotional vibe feedback on an mp3 @red juniper

[abstract swallow]

[walks in]
https://suno.com/s/kVyFKstrqW2q8API

happy new year from the mmojunkie!
I'll be back soon with my new projects once they're ready for mainstream release for now...
[Drops mic]

[tall socket]

Weird I spent the last two days on just one or two songs, I’ve published them but still like :/ something’s off. I’d love another opinion, I don’t need likes or follows just another set of ears please.

[cinder venture]

LLMs cannot listen to music, do not use them for a human-esque "musical taste review" what they can do is turn your song into data and interpret that song in comparison to other songs, but again, LLMs and AIs cannot "listen to music"

[sweet locust]

What about Wave files

[karmic musk]

Gemini's last update is solid with it for a first generation of this

[gentle night]

ai voice changers that can be ran in real time without latency or audible hallucinations.

[glacial vortex]

@karmic musk - Gemini is amazing- but Claude is still better at backend coding for intricate codebase

[wheat solar]

I go back and forth between claude and gemini for coding

[karmic musk]

I use gemini for everything except coding. Cursor to me is currrently front running, but I move around a lot and having the mobile compatability is top tier

Although, I let Gemini prompt for my final UI's as I like its styling better

[sweet locust]

What about Mistral AI

[glacial vortex]

Claude code with opus is solid- but you need a second project manager ai that critiques it and keeps it honest- ai has a tendency like humans to over exaggerate what it has done @karmic musk

[sweet locust]

Has anyone used Mistral AI

[cinder venture]

Cursor is great honestly, and it has access to most of the other models so if you have that I'd just use cursor and call it a day

[glacial vortex]

I use windsurf but cursor is great too

[karmic musk]

I run everything everywhere through prompt managers lol

[sweet locust]

Have you ever used Mistral AI

[dim wasp]

[karmic musk]

Mistral's not bad, but I can't see them as competitive to the current tools

[cinder venture]

I've gone down the rabbit hole of N number of AIs daisy chained together critiquing each other and its fun to watch it all turn into pure slop eventually

[quaint coyote]

Consider that Steve Lukather wrote most of the guitars and bass on Michael Jackson's "Beat It", fleshing out MJ's basic ideas, but most people don't even know his name and he's not credited as a songwriter on the song. 🙂

[dim wasp]

language model ?

[lofty sable]

New targets acquired then lol 😆

[outer cape]

Lol he blocked me

[glacial vortex]

Ironically the best one imo for this is ChatGPT 5.2 thinking- it’s actually the best at not accepting the results of test cases until it sees proof

[karmic musk]

There was a coding app someone made like a year ago, where you could watch the "team" walk back and forth to talk. But if you gave it an impossible task, they would just do it for hours, eventually goiong way off topic lol

[fair pivot]

https://suno.com/s/fSeFElXT0seHbPKl

[dim wasp]

i think it's one of those you can run locally, which is a huge plus if you don't want your data leaked too much ?

actualy depends on the size, they got multiple models

[cinder venture]

Is this the coding app or the engineers on my team at work when I don't check in on what they are doing?

[dim wasp]

but they got decent version for local runs

[sweet locust]

What's AI makes the best prompt

[red juniper]

those guys all did so much for MJ. toto is awesome

[scenic dew]

i just asked gemini that, and it said chatgpt

[outer cape]

They all neon

[cinder venture]

Most LLMs make similar prompts for music generation. The answer is the human sitting behind the LLM, giving the LLM the appropriate template and instructions.

[glacial vortex]

I saw Toto last year- incredible concert

[winged trellis]

Who knew that mistaking a breakdown for a brigde would up the quality of a track for remastering.

[karmic musk]

Theres an online one too, its like 15$ or something. For local training a model is probably the best route, but honestly? just use Gemini. Sounds good to say, oh no, i gotta protect my data, yeah no, google has your data already lol

[dim wasp]

some got better insights and you don't need to overcorrect them or overengineer the prompt

[quaint coyote]

The curse of the studio musician is often not getting credit for ideas you bring to the table. The amount of talent gone essentially unrecognized is incalculable. 🙂

[dim wasp]

training for local why? there's plenty decent ones

[scenic dew]

yeah, and unless you're doing something VERY specific and willing to reinvent the wheel, AND have a powerful computer, its hard to beat the capabilities and processing power of the 'big' LLMs available online

[cinder venture]

They all have their idiosycrancies, its just "which one do you vibe with the best" honestly. They all work fine, the question is what does the human understand and what is the easiest for you to use. It's a very simple an easy test - take a single song idea, and run it through the various LLMs you want to try and do an A/B test.

[karmic musk]

depends on the task really, if its simple yeah. But creative wise, your better to train. Outputs greatly improve at that point

[red juniper]

ha, i have some personal ties to the wrecking crew, the OG's of not getting credits 😅 but, back to toto for a bit... their song "you got me" is basically an MJ song. i wonder what the intention was there...

[dim wasp]

well i don't vibe with most of them. so i have to correct them and try different angles to make them do what they need

[cinder venture]

Personally, I think Gemini and GPT are giving me the best song prompts, but you may have different results with how you like to use LLMs.

[dim wasp]

so what do you use for data to train your own and where do you get it from ... or what sort of data do you even pick for your use cases?

[cinder venture]

Regardless of model, I can generate about 4-6 song prompts before it turns to garbage and I need to do a hard reset on the model

Eventually, they will just start copying your last prompts, regardless of the instruction you give them

so you need to constantly subvert hallucination

[rose nebula]

how exactly do you hard reset t he model?

[scenic dew]

see, for the tasks i use them for its a boon when it learns i want the same formatting/etc

[cinder venture]

I yell at it and tell it its producing garbage, hallucinating, and trying to trick me and that it can't fool me

[dim wasp]

really? mine works the other way around, it's like working with hot steel and it only gets better the longer the chat is and i force it into compliance 🤔

[neon spindle]

it doesnt really learn. set the sliders to 50 and 50 and you are good.

[rose nebula]

i love grok cause he's the most unhinged lol

[rose nebula]

ah ok ty

[scenic dew]

grok is like a weird chatgpt from 2 years ago

[wheat solar]

I've had fun asking "Create a song about company 'xyz' " then putting it in suno without reading the lyrics and seeing what it came up with. Granted as your now using trademarked names you can't publish it, but still fun to see what it comes up with.

[rose nebula]

no way you clearly don't use it much

[quaint coyote]

Hard to say... but working with MJ for that long, they may have just had that influence going on.

[rose nebula]

or have the paid version

that might be it

free is probably not that great

[dim wasp]

the latest one ? no . chatgpt was always heavily censored

[cinder venture]

All LLMs can do is "hallucinate" everything they generate is a hallucination they think you want to hear. The question is do you like the hallucination or not.

[dim wasp]

also going by the metrics grok is a strong contender

[rose nebula]

no i'm pretty sober rn

[scenic dew]

i wasnt talking about censorship, i was just talking about the uhh... language level overall, oh yay... neon's back

[rose nebula]

grok is the least uncensored of the big guys

great for creatives

[karmic musk]

Personally I've only worked to train one model. It was for restaurants to help them scheudule better. I do not actually know anything about coding. I vibe code but we trained it through open AI using the inputs that we got from the stores we worked with. Locally I got one from someone that critiques lyrics that does wonders

I have no idea what that one is trained on tho

[quaint coyote]

Least censored, most confused about basic facts.

[dim wasp]

what makes you say it's bad? you said it's comparable with gpt from 2 years ago, that's what? gpt 3.5 ? which was average

[crystal valve]

v5 version of my song “In My Veins (Waifu Queen)”! I like how it handled the transition from male to female vocals more smoothly here. Also please ignore the style prompt, it’s the lame Suno auto-generated one xD https://suno.com/s/1TXi2RTAeS8mghgP

[scenic dew]

neon shadows colliding on the city streets at 3am

[rose nebula]

lmao

woodhouse nooo

[lilac scarab]

what about them echoes?

[quaint coyote]

Neon neon in my neon, while wearing neon and driving a Dodge Neon.

[dim wasp]

idk what you prompt it on, but it was capable of understanding tricks questions easier and better than other AIs

[rose nebula]

this place is like chatgpt or gemini can't even say the s hit word lol

[cinder venture]

What's the most generic suno music? Neon synthwave? Edgy white-boy mumble rap?

[dim wasp]

and i did ask very tricky existential questions lol ... it's not about whether it agreed, but it understood what i am asking

[rose nebula]

it can do mumble rap???

[quaint coyote]

My beagle can do mumble rap. 🙂

[scenic dew]

shrugs if it works more easily for you, cool... but I can get better results faster out of at least 3 other LLMs compared to grok

[rose nebula]

it's the least sycophant of the bunch

[dim wasp]

rap in general

[cinder venture]

If you listen to other people's music (I know I know, you guys don't, you just generate a ton of songs and post them here) - yea - it's like 50% bad mumble rap

[abstract swallow]

Just crop the full song or remix x1 to BAKE in the gens its normal

[karmic musk]

I think creative GPT is king atm, however, Gemini can get you better output cuz it is actually smarter and better at aligning with the users request. they need to have a baby.

[dim wasp]

but if you like neons

[abstract swallow]

if u cover it more than 5 times it makes nothing new and degens

[dim wasp]

[covert cradle]

Would someone mind checking out my songs?
#🐣┃suno-showcase message

[rose nebula]

i still dunno what neons mean lol

oh right it just like the word

[unborn pecan]

New drop outside of my ongoing album project if anyone's interested 🙃 https://suno.com/s/p6HQGN5Y4YL3oLir

[dim wasp]

i wouldn't say more easily, it was suitable for my use cases, you might be querying different topics from me, so it explains why you got different experience

[scenic dew]

i gotta get around to checking out gemini again, its been a year or two... but currently I use LLMs more for NON-creative aspects of Suno, and chatgpt's pretty solid for that

[dim wasp]

absolutely

[karmic musk]

yeah, the last update is crazy. i have 45k emails, literally asked it to write me a resume using them, and it went bck and pulled 10 years of work history and projects to put on it. Plus they now have notebook LLM linked too it so you can have better databases AND make podcasts right in the server

[dim wasp]

never seen neon signs , bright colourful lights on a shopping mall / gas station / casino / club late at night ? those are neon lights often

[rose nebula]

ty elon for not being like the other girls lol

[glass anchor]

How do you make an octopus laugh?

[rose nebula]

yes but i don't really ever think about them enough to want them in my music....maybe the neon sign meme guy from tiktok is behind this

[glass anchor]

You give it ten tickles.

[cinder venture]

Made a banger song right now for you all - took hours and hours of work (no it took 3 seconds): https://suno.com/s/HUgbOCSDYTkhTtw2. If the music you make in Suno sounds like this - you might want to start listening to other peoples music before you make more.

[dim wasp]

few updates and they do the job for you

[neon spindle]

Full self hallucinating ™

[quaint oar]

What if you write synthwave that sounds like that song?

[scenic dew]

i've gotten a couple songs lately where it'll just break into hallucinating half a thousand words from my style prompt... its actually kinda enjoyable when that happens, reminds me of the old days

[covert cradle]

I have songs too!! 😔 K-pop and afrobeat fusion
https://suno.com/s/Uoyx3D0E0A3uMJCK

[cinder venture]

You can see the prompt in suno but the style prompt is just "neon synthwave mumble rap"

[sudden junco]

I need some help guys, why suno sing lthis when I put ir in ()?:
(De fondo, Fran: “Debes CAER… CAER… CAER…”)

[terse matrix]

Jan 2nd?

[scenic dew]

(say this)

[sudden junco]

I want to add details like:
(With deep voice: "hello")
What can I do?

[quaint oar]

I know https://suno.com/s/odghoJ4969q8qR4K this is remixed from a synthwave track I wrote a while back in FL Studio.

[rose nebula]

have you tried synthwavewave to get ultra synthwave vibes??

[quaint coyote]

almost as good as that person who meant harmonic dubstep and put harmonica dubstep and invented a whole new thing...

[scenic dew]

define the backup vocals in the style prompt, and just do (hello)

[silver heath]

yo

[covert cradle]

What kind of genres do you like?

[cinder venture]

That gives me a fantastic idea

[sudden junco]

Like this?:
With deep voice (Hello)?

[quaint oar]

No, like I legit write darkwave/synthwave type music outside of Suno. So I use those styles quite often in the music I produce. lol

[red juniper]

ah, i see we've found the humor! what about you? maybe starting to learn a new instrument in 2026?

[scenic dew]

this is nearly a year old.... its not harmonica dubstep, but its harmonica something https://suno.com/song/f73cfee2-c0f8-4f75-8a87-3ffe1caf65d6

[quaint oar]

https://suno.com/s/odghoJ4969q8qR4K - this is a Suno description even from an upload file I produced for a short remixable demo for those wanting to see how much power DAW files can have. "A synthwave track with a driving beat and a melancholic atmosphere,"

[rose nebula]

oh man i'm all over the place but generally i love trap sometimes edm/techno/synthwave/trance, rock/metal/emo/metalcore but overall trap music which any time i try to get suno to make my kind of trap music it usually says it's too vulger and refuses to make it lol

it can't comprehend that i need the nword said like every 3 words

[cinder venture]

Harmonica dubstep? Meet - acapella dubstep: https://suno.com/s/Ayo7efHvLrX1BglF

Its ridiculous

[covert cradle]

I have a psytrance playlist if you wanna check it some day

[cinder venture]

I'm actually surprised that acapella dubstep came out alright

[quaint oar]

Where is Spock when we need him to see this one.. lol

[rose nebula]

only if you listen to my sexy baddies livestream while i listen to yours

[rose nebula]

@unique pulsar throw your baby in the playpin we need you here

[quaint oar]

https://suno.com/s/TJSEgSpr0e4bce95 - Getting suno to sound like a demo recording in a bedroom.

[unkempt quarry]

https://suno.com/s/ykjzN7VruysA5oa1

[covert cradle]

I’ll give it a listen https://suno.com/playlist/bda3c617-3548-400c-adc6-79a9ea854193 is your livestream on twitch

[lilac scarab]

he will show up, theres wubs in the chat

[quaint oar]

Wubs that he probably did not even know was possible to wub in suno even

[cinder venture]

i have to find it, but I tried to get suno to make music of an AI singing its own music - it got weird

[rose nebula]

god no i hate twitch it's on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TWDolS1dEY

[rose nebula]

listening

[quaint coyote]

Hah, that's actually great. 🙂

[rose nebula]

omgggg i love this art already

it's so pretty

[scenic dew]

yeah, i think v4 was when we first really saw harmonicas in suno

[stiff veldt]

Is AI helping creatives or hurting them

[remote ridge]

bit of both

[cinder venture]

I ended up using djent to make the AI make music that I thought sounded like an AI making music - this is hard to listen to, warning, it's hardly music: https://suno.com/s/VTebtGPTqCHrCJqE

[rose nebula]

helping just look at adobe it's just a tool you either get with the times or just keep making art the old way which is still very much wanted people love classics

[covert cradle]

Thank you 😊 I’m glad you like the art

[teal pier]

Dear Woodhouse, that's the name of song. I'll post the link again. https://suno.com/s/2xcMv25Dmv4dStOm

[stiff veldt]

Alright

[scenic dew]

yes

[stiff veldt]

Hurting?

[rose nebula]

did you have to change the art or it just makes it his way

i think i've come to realize i just don't like vocals that much instrumentals of this might be more tolerable

[quaint oar]

Helping if you ask me. Had it not been for Suno, my FL Studio would have still been outdated and barely touched along with my music equipment. Now, I have written 6 instrumentals in FL studio this month alone.

[jaunty vessel]

who's up for something silly?
https://suno.com/s/Ik5nbL1WcMklLeNn

[stiff veldt]

Wow

[quaint oar]

https://suno.com/s/B2WMr98OACSAnke2 listening to a remix right now of something I wrote when Suno was down... that was the 2nd track I made that day.. Just a random track, not sure if the best, but testing out what I can make with it.

[cinder venture]

I created one concept album, using AI, where the entire premise is that AI is a paradigm shift in human society, and that it will effectively de-value a lot of the things we believe current hold value. I.e., money = supply and demand, and AI will invert supply and demand. Most likely, what AI will do is make it so there's no money to be made in creative pursuits, and they move from a capitalist endeavour to an unmonetizable hobby, like they were a few hundred years ago.

Hence why WMG is in the chat, they see it coming.

The days of "being an artist as your job" will end - anyone will be able to "make art", the barrier to entry isn't 4-6 years of training, its a couple hours dinking around with AI models

[quaint oar]

Well considering I am an old timer, studios wanted to devalue work the moment it became possible to produce from our bedrooms.

Turned down a deal for a track in 2009, the only deal I ever had.. They wanted 100% rights, I only see 10% of iTunes sales..

10% of a 99 cent track..

[cinder venture]

Yea streamling already devalued it heavily

AI will remove value

[rustic burrow]

AI lowers the bar to entry in all fields it touches, but the bar of creativity in those fields remains high.

[remote ridge]

eish, that's not a deal - that's robbery

[quaint oar]

Talking to a buddy of mine in 2009 while he was on his world tour and they were not getting that great of deals either.

[limpid radish]

and the possibilities.... endless-ss-sss-ss echoes into the distance

[cinder venture]

Exactly! The skillset will shift from "I can draw real well or mix really well" to "I can coordinate the most AI models to produce good output really well"

[quaint oar]

Literally gets off world tour and starts applying for work as he had to quit the previous job just to tour with his band.

[jaunty vessel]

I really doubt it. Just like digital art didnt kill traditional art, and CGI hasnt killed practical effects.
What will probably happen is some sort of hybrid workflow

[lofty sable]

Also lowers the bar in terms of quality at times too lol 😆

[rugged pulsar]

Ai music is my happy place. You can't put value on that

[rose nebula]

artists have been dealing with these issues for so long the money just isn't in streaming right? it's in all of the different revenue streams like touring selling merch

[cinder venture]

2.7 million dollars

[rose nebula]

it's just like how anyone can make books and sell on kindle now

[cinder venture]

For your happiness

[covert cradle]

I made the art with Bing Image Creator I used prompts to get it that way

[rugged pulsar]

I want the ability to make music not 2.7 mil I pass

[rose nebula]

i really like it worth the effort

[quaint oar]

Yeah, the itunes was not even streaming back then. If I wanted CD's there was some buy in offer, where I would get them super cheap to profit from it, but that means I personally have to sling 150 discs. I think it was $175 for 150 copies like that.

[civic spire]

[remote ridge]

that's why I don't see AI as a threat as a musician. The compositions it spits out are superb, but nobody is going to want AI music in their video games or professional productions

[cinder venture]

For now, until its normalzied with future generations, all of these macro level societal changes happen of a long course of time, hundreds of years

Kids raised on AI output, will not mind it

[lofty sable]

Until AI can replicate human lyric writing fully it will always be second best 😉

[lilac scarab]

Legend in da house!

[rose nebula]

still laughing at whoever said make money as an artists lmaoooo u know how hard it is to make money as an artists hahahaha it's running a business and requires lots of promoting

[rugged pulsar]

I like Ai music more than 98% music artists on the market

[cinder venture]

AI is like 5 years old from a commercially viable standpoint, and we're all here making music with it. If you really think your "way of making money" is safe as a creative, g'luck in 10-15 years. I recommend a job at an organization that pays you a salary or to own your own business.

[quaint oar]

Oh I think it can, just needs models customized or pulled back from safety things. I was looking at some early 2024 AI lyrics I genned to just test udio out and they were so much better versus output now.

[covert cradle]

Most of my song images is all ai it’s okay if the psytrance songs aren’t likeable to you. They did well enough when I was experimenting with the genre though

[rose nebula]

hate to break it to you but majority of artists have been using ai for a while

[rugged pulsar]

I know

[severe canopy]

😉

[rugged pulsar]

2014 I've been gen

[lofty sable]

Until the neon lights go out it will never be lol 😆😆

[neon spindle]

you drive to the gig in your car, bring your equipment, bring your time... and get 100 bucks for the 8h evening .. ez artist life

[rose nebula]

you have the best joker as your profile pic i assume you don't like normie pop music garbage lmao

[young sage]

Ai mics and all that

[quaint oar]

Yeah, that's the part people don't get. As an actual musican, you gotta play nice with all people too. Some of my friends were promoters and stuff.

[rugged pulsar]

Ty 😝🤘🎸

[rose nebula]

yeah when i used to bartend it was a shocking awakening realizing how little these guys made lol they show up and played for $100 for hours while the bar made thousands in profit cause of them

[young sage]

AI tuned music will change the standard, we wont use 440 anymore

[rugged pulsar]

It's hard to say what I like, but not normie no

[cinder venture]

It's not even promotion, it's paying for clout. If you want to "make it" as a creative, whip out the wallet and pay big tech.

[rose nebula]

i've probably watched that movie a thousand times at least

[cinder venture]

If you don't have a few hundred k lying around to advertise and buy likes/comments, good luck to you!

[lofty sable]

It could never come up with something like this tho

Complete subjugation
Eradication
Overlords demand our extermination
This we cannot allow
Their end will come soon
Freedom from their tyrannical occupation

At least not yet 😉

[remote ridge]

we used to get $250/each with enough left over to add to our kitty for extra equipment and whatnot. We'd play 3-4 gigs a week, so I was actually making some good bank!

[young sage]

Perfect

[rose nebula]

lol trying really hard not to say how to make it now a days you basically got to hire a bot farm

[neon spindle]

i made a lot of smaller art gigs with music and art... and most of the time the "honor to be there" was all you got... which is fine if you do it for the fun of doing it.

[quaint oar]

One guy I knew was working in the back in the CD section of a comic book store promoting his new compilation album and promoting other acts, 5 years later, he formed his own distro and is widely known in the industrial community for that album.

[rose nebula]

ehh yeah right it's def not for making a living

[cinder venture]

You absolutely need to hire a bot farm to compete with the people who are alreading making money and hiring bot farms to keep you at the bottom of the algo.

Ladder just goes up

If you think you are going from "nobody" to "making lots of money" putting creative stuff on the internet, begin to google "bot farm" right now.

[rose nebula]

yup i'm like 100000% sure every music label is dumping millions into each artists that goes viral in bot farms

it's the only way

[cinder venture]

yep

[latent light]

That "Narishi" ai artist is getting crazy traction in India and industry insiders (including Bollywood) are trying to sign or license her music. I say the monetization era is here for some people...

[rose nebula]

bot farms are crazy people don't realize how much of the internet is just bot farms

[wintry seal]

Ai is a bubble I wouldn’t be so worried foof

[lofty sable]

People who run them don't understand the concept of outside lol 😆

[rose nebula]

jfc this place is so censored no wonder the model keeps getting worse lol

how can you provide a tool for artists and be so censored

is this china?

[crystal frigate]

What do ya'll think makes generally for better songs, video game based or history based songs? Like for example songs about Halo, Fallout, etc. or songs about WW1, WW2, etc.?

[remote ridge]

lol the platform itself isn't as censored as the discord

[jaunty vessel]

Lol AI is a bubble like the internet was a bubble.

[cinder venture]

I am from new york so I dont even realize i am "swearing" honestly

[wintry seal]

I mean war songs already exist. I don’t think you’re going to be able to replicate the lyricism

[cinder venture]

wasnt raised to be that weak

[rose nebula]

omfg

lolol

[exotic agate]

lol

[quaint oar]

I have old lyrics so dark, the last time I fed it to chat GPT and asked for a spelling and grammar check it went into lockdown mode on me for the content.... lol AI can't make that yet... maybe Remi as she is unhinged...lol

[remote ridge]

[rose nebula]

i wanna abuse him like archer did

make him eat spiders

[wintry seal]

New York is accepting Ai music generally?

[remote ridge]

bowl of spiderwebs

[exotic agate]

and people tell me to calm down lol

[woeful solstice]

what version of suno is better? i dont like v5 much

[cinder venture]

I don't speak for the state of new york, I have no idea

[crystal frigate]

@wintry seal not necessarily marching songs, but more like songs just about them.

[wintry seal]

But you live there, lmao. You don’t know your own culture?

[lofty sable]

https://suno.com/s/NKfq9M203tmgr7J5 depends how you want it to sound got an example of war metal 🙏

[neon spindle]

i like 4.5all a lot actually. even if its the model free users get

[cinder venture]

You sweet summer child, thinking there is a homogenous culture of "new york"

[crystal frigate]

I go for a power metal or orchestral metal vibe usually.

[rose nebula]

the ones other websites use lol

[wintry seal]

Idk, I think both are kind of weak topics for a song personally. But if I had to choose, I would say war songs.

[jaunty vessel]

@neon spindle i made something silly...
https://suno.com/s/Ik5nbL1WcMklLeNn

[wintry seal]

At least I’m not pessimistic and jaded.

[rugged pulsar]

I like all of them they each have their own purpose

[lofty sable]

Drop a link love some good power metal or orchestral 🙏😌

[cinder venture]

looool, the projection is strong with this one

[rose nebula]

on mobile i can get it to do a lot more than desktop

[remote ridge]

v5 has a way better soundscape. though some people do like to use v4.5, then remaster on v5 so they get the 4.5 arrangement with the upgraded sound of v5

[hard dew]

Brand new remix - "You (Binaural Remix)" - https://suno.com/s/YhyfwK42wlRlasNe

[crystal frigate]

I got these at least lmao
https://suno.com/s/9vKlv3CaD1pmtM5Q
https://suno.com/s/rGYX4vjJrBShRI2S

[quaint oar]

It was the mobile version... had to get to my desktop to be able to look and compare...

[crystal frigate]

@lofty sable

[wintry seal]

What is 4.5 doing better on?

[lofty sable]

Ah industrial always works well with metal 🙏

[rose nebula]

lol damn see everyone just has their own experience with it

[jaunty vessel]

I think 4.5 tends to have richer bass

[crystal frigate]

I love it

[remote ridge]

probably less adlibs if I were to hazard a guess. that seems to be the main painpoint from people

[crystal frigate]

Gives the metal a metal sound lmao

[wintry seal]

Oh weird lol

[rose nebula]

how much longer until the big ai's start making music and suno flops

[crystal frigate]

lmfao

[wintry seal]

I have a question, if I split stems is there a way to “regenerate” just one stem in a way that fits the track?

[cinder venture]

What I recommend is not telling suno genres at all, and explaining genres to suno more technically, unless you want your music to sound like everyone else who lazily typed in 3 words into the style prompt

[lament dawn]

new song : D https://suno.com/s/MBXR6VlVU39n1ga1

[lofty sable]

Military marching bands usually work well with orchestral also 😉
https://suno.com/s/25z7O3EST2FDJAZB

[dense hawk]

a spanish/english song that's latin/electro pop but make it witchy and sultry - https://suno.com/s/0mnIdntQh9pAcHNv

[exotic agate]

I often leave the style prompt blank

[wintry seal]

Do you have an example of your prompts? I felt like combining genres that fit together with the vibe has worked for me so far.

[cinder venture]

Hey some like to gamble, a roulette player I see

[rose nebula]

whyyy this is where all the magic happens

[visual kindle]

What’s up yall

[crystal frigate]

@lofty sable That sounds pretty good, just not exactly my style. I like more oomph and power behind it all.

[cinder venture]

Here's an example slice of a prompt I used for the style prompt (it's not the whole thing, but to give you an example):

[exotic agate]

I use music to prompt my..music. yup

[wintry seal]

Like for a boombap track I was dojg smth along the lines of boombap, spoken word, tango, classical, mafia, felt piano, flute

[lament dawn]

vibe to this https://suno.com/s/MBXR6VlVU39n1ga1

[cinder venture]

Shimmering, trickster 80s-style synth electronic based music, coastal illusion-magi and language weavers, Tempo around 122–126 BPM, light and quick on its feet, The groove should feel like a crowded night market of shifting stalls: syncopated kick, bright snare, off-beat claps, small percussion ticks like coins and dice, Bass is nimble and slippery, dancing around the downbeat with playful runs, Synths are glassy and prismatic: arpeggios that stutter and reverse, bell-like leads, swirling pads that fade in and out like mirages,

[rose nebula]

i see go on

[crystal frigate]

@lofty sable I have Halo themed songs that show that off more, especially my Gravemind song.

[wintry seal]

Was this done with ChatGPT?

[cinder venture]

If you "describe the music" more then "tell suno what to do" the output tends to be better imo

[exotic agate]

you can create in a daw and upload it, or now you can gen in studio, I then slap some lyrics in and remix it. I rarely use the style prompt. my songs do come out shorter but I want that.

[wintry seal]

Ive struggled with specifically tones, but maybe using a persona and then describing the instrumental very clearly would work better. Like I can describe a tone very clearly and it will just do something totally unrelated

[covert cradle]

K-pop and afrobeat https://suno.com/s/Uoyx3D0E0A3uMJCK 🥹🙏

[exotic agate]

damn this a vibe already Pim

[lament dawn]

is that a gamerrr girrrl i seeeee

[covert cradle]

I don’t play games much I used to before but not any more

[cinder venture]

Are yall putting any AI music on youtube? Hows your results so far

[ornate tusk]

Big D remix and remastered: https://suno.com/s/CfDDpcqjzOkshrAO

[covert cradle]

Thank you I’m glad you like it

[lament dawn]

i do gaming so i don't really put ai music on youtube

[lilac scarab]

some wubs? https://suno.com/song/7dd5b5e3-f831-4306-b024-a2471116c3fa

[remote ridge]

nice song Pim! loving that beat

[lament dawn]

vibe to this https://suno.com/s/MBXR6VlVU39n1ga1

[civic spire]

Idk about all that. Lol

[cinder venture]

I went from no views to 2600 in a week with posting AI music, so its been interesting to see peoples reactions so far.

[exotic agate]

https://youtube.com/shorts/6mCjilD7EyM?si=ZHIe4h1C9E3KMLQC

[wintry seal]

Just on YouTube?

[cinder venture]

i like seeing the youtube analytics of how long people are listening to each song and when they drop off (if they do)

[lament dawn]

youtube be dying for me i want subs xd

[lilac scarab]

i speak truth brother!

[covert cradle]

Nice dance vibes 🪩 💃

[crystal frigate]

Do we like Fallout or Halo more here? 🇺🇳 or ☢️

[ornate tusk]

Big D remix and remastered: https://suno.com/s/CfDDpcqjzOkshrAO

[wintry seal]

My understanding is that people don’t follow / subscribe to stuff as much anymore

[compact cradle]

I really hope the next update to V6 will have real audience reactions. Have anyone tried doing live standup comedy the audience most of time with laughs every single time if off timing

[lament dawn]

thats what im sayin gng old youtube was fun

[covert cradle]

Awesome thank you 😊 how’s it going with your evening? Hope you’re doing well

[broken oriole]

not even a fair question - 2 different things

[wintry seal]

Now I guess it is consistent uploads and hitting the algorithm

[lament dawn]

im closing in on 500 subs and its hard to reach there now lol

[crystal frigate]

Ay just askin lol

[echo heath]

WIN $100 this Friday for a random person simply for giving an honest review of this Album (will choose randomly, if you review it your name will be added to a bowl of names). Must reply to this post to be entered. (I will use the reviews for PR)
https://suno.com/playlist/6c4c1782-7217-415b-a800-fe6465f94c49

[crystal frigate]

I got songs of both.

[cinder venture]

Nice! Here's some of mine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgULTizt0n8

[crystal frigate]

I like my Halo songs more tho tbh.

[exotic agate]

lol just link a song I'll sub, retrn the favor eh? trying to build up the yt network rn

[broken oriole]

youtube or here? i had like 1,000 when i stopped making stuff

[lament dawn]

you guys should totally sub to me.

[remote ridge]

Going well thanks. Getting late so starting to wind down now. Hope your day is going well!

[lament dawn]

youtube

[compact cradle]

I ll do it for 10 bucks

[cinder venture]

Yea I subbed!

[lament dawn]

wbme

[broken oriole]

honest huh

[cinder venture]

i cant sub if you dont put a link

[broken oriole]

lord woodhouse would never allow it

[exotic agate]

nice, I was thinking today we need to make folders of each other's ai tunes or something, to have playlists to promote

[covert cradle]

You’re welcome. I’ve been alright today. Birthday vibes felt nice for a while now it feels like a regular day.

[lament dawn]

click my profile if i put a gaming video link here it counts as self promo xd

my channel is connected tho

:]

[ancient marlin]

https://suno.com/s/aeB5w3rrfJ6NGHLu should i cange any of these lyrics?

[cinder venture]

sure, sub to mine too above! i linked

[broken oriole]

supposedly, making a video with your song as the background and uploading it to a private list on youtube is a solid way to find out if you're going to get nabbed for infringement because their algorythim is insanely tight

[wintry seal]

Why is persona length limited to 30 seconds

[lament dawn]

done

[wintry seal]

That’s like the most important tool and it seems like it’s being gatekept

[broken oriole]

told you

[crystal frigate]

lol damn

[cinder venture]

how did my link not get eaten by the lord?

[exotic spindle]

youtube links arent allowed here? How lame

[cinder venture]

mine is chilling above

[crystal frigate]

idk

[hard dew]

"Friendly Little Lawsuit (Suno vs WMG)" - https://suno.com/s/11jLVwloHhmKfgLs

[crystal frigate]

lucky ig

[lament dawn]

just 11 more subs for me or so to hit 500 xd

im struggling

[tardy haven]

How much coxinha do I get?

[lament dawn]

wuts a coxinha

[cinder venture]

I have the lords favor, I best not use this power foolishly...

[tardy haven]

https://tenor.com/view/catupiry-coxinha-salgado-salgadinho-fritura-gif-9396818

[winged trellis]

You guys are watching your sub counts?

[cinder venture]

I just started youtube last week so I am, I got like 20 so its easy to count

[lament dawn]

i never seen that food

[crystal frigate]

my yt should be connected to my discord

if anyone is interested

[exotic agate]

on yt? I'm just a little guy still

[lament dawn]

we all struggling xd

we all should ong boost each other

[crystal frigate]

I don't, but I'm not big in any way lol.

[broken oriole]

mine pretty much only goes down on YT because I havent uploaded anything in years - but need to rebrand the channel If I am going to use it with this stufff

[tardy haven]

It's brazilian. Fried with shredded chicken and dough and broth

[winged trellis]

I like watching the numbers go up, but am in it for my own enjoyment of the music I make.

[lament dawn]

im jamaican and in my home place i only know jerk chicken

god it feels so weird typing that on discord

.

[cinder venture]

jerkmaican?

[jaunty vessel]

Jerked chicken is awesome though

[lament dawn]

fr

[cinder venture]

im a pale white blond dude from the us, and I like super spicy food, it makes me turn red

like literally

[random canyon]

anyone have the issue where the mobile app doesn't recognize your pro account that you created on desktop?

[lament dawn]

bro i almost died eating spicy chicken a month back

never put ur fingers in ur eyes

[cinder venture]

if you aint praying to the lord the next mornin it wasnt spicy enough

[rugged pulsar]

In the Suno showcase is fine for YouTube links

[lament dawn]

trust me i was

ded ahh gng we all should boost smaller channels needing help.

or suno needs a self promo channel

[compact falcon]

Hey guys I just found my missing published songs in my trash bin if you're songs vanished too check out your trash bins

[compact cradle]

We have similar tastes in music my label is called Spaceship 🚀 Nova for one

[broken oriole]

nope

[broken oriole]

go to fiverr or some such and pay some bot farm like 10 bucks for 10,000. Super popular super fast

[lament dawn]

hell not xd

10 bucks would buy me skittals

.

[cinder venture]

Here's some 16-bit videogame inspired funk music based on worldbuilding I did for a grim-dark sci-fi world set in the year 20,800. If you like old videogames and funk, enjoy: https://suno.com/s/Zx8Y2uSRUkPEWmeQ

[wind kiln]

#🐣┃suno-showcase

[lament dawn]

not that one xd

[lament dawn]

for youtube

[lament dawn]

ik that one exists

🥀

[ancient marlin]

is there any way to turn one of my songs into a 16 bit version

[tight meadow]

Youtube links works just fine, but you didn't read the warning why it got deleted. You tried to post your youtube profile, and that was the problem. You need to post a youtube link to 1 song you created..

[wind kiln]

not 1 to 1. But i bet with either persona or cover use and an 16 bit related prompt, it could get. somewhere.

[ancient marlin]

wanna make like a sega megadrive version of a song

[echo heath]

Where can I hear your music? Have a Playlist I can listen to?

[teal cradle]

Any advice for verse to hook transition without overlapping vocals? @wind kiln

[broken oriole]

not to nerd out too hard here but most of the mega drives only had 8 bit audio - which you can prompt - unless they were the later gens which got the 16 bit bump

[scenic dew]

"Cover" with an appropriate 16bit chiptune prompt

[echo heath]

Sorry brother...not sure how this relates?

[ancient marlin]

https://suno.com/s/jRmgsisiU115r7G5 just one this one

[wind kiln]

Idk, put a random instrument tag in between?

[Tuba Farts]

<part>```

If things bleed too much, I just add more.

[broken oriole]

relates to opti telling you to prompt it in 16 bit - not all megadrives had 16 bit audio

[limpid radish]

To add to this: If aiming for Mega Drive kind of music, the music synth chip used was a YM2612 so I'd also put "ym2612" and "fm synthesis" into the prompt maybe.

[scenic dew]

gimme a sec, i'll see if i can whip up a prompt

[exotic agate]

but woody we stupee

[compact cradle]

DM me for my link 🔗

[wind kiln]

Make generic 16 bit patttern in suno, turn it into persona, run it as a cover over the track?

Should do fine

[ancient marlin]

im still bad at this how do you make personas?

[wind kiln]

If i see something I like and want to use it as a nudge, I crop it out and turn it into a persona.

Generally don't even bother refining it, run it as a cover.

Can cover the source audio at the same time.

[broken oriole]

theres a lack of ducmentation about the real depth of the ability of the INSPO vs Persona Vs Cover

[jaunty vessel]

documentation in suno

[wind kiln]

[jaunty vessel]

funny words man

[wind kiln]

That's why prompt wizards are all jokes.

[cinder venture]

How do you make a persona? You click on the persona button, select a song with a vocalist you like and you save it.

[remote ridge]

OPN2 is a pretty common name for the YM2612 too

[cinder venture]

it's not hard

The hard part is making a vocalist you like

[static merlin]

Nom

[jaunty vessel]

you inspired me to do 16 bit bardcore 😄
https://suno.com/s/K9MWWYSM9Z4SrXVh

[wind kiln]

You think too narrow. It's additional audio context. The new functionality has to do with vocals, the old one is far more a guide in terms of. overall vibe.

[cinder venture]

ah I haven't used the new one yet then

my b

[unique pulsar]

good lord

[rugged pulsar]

Try adding both

[remote ridge]

I do 😎

[lament dawn]

talking about lords vibe to this https://suno.com/s/TD65bzpvCUlgRPXm

[wind kiln]

Ugh gross

[rugged pulsar]

Trial and error, add ones you like to a playlist too if they are similar

[unique pulsar]

ew klowns

is there a circus in town?

[wind kiln]

Nah at ur moms.

[remote ridge]

suno is decent at 16-bit, but still can't do my beloved 8-bit 😔

[wind kiln]

We're playing clowncar with her.

[jaunty vessel]

https://suno.com/s/iVxbg9OU8B1t7C1h < Harmonica dubstep 😛

[cinder venture]

there I published the song for yall with the acapella dubstep and gave it a name

[unique pulsar]

surprised you can all fit

[scenic dew]

i dunno, tried two prompts, but i'm not really sure what a success would be... lol.. mostly they sound like EQ changes of the original with some instruments that arent 16bit at certain points... https://suno.com/song/2fd7d8e7-b854-4279-9e34-7c48f26a7392

[wind kiln]

When you get rich you gotta get her a bigger house.

[unique pulsar]

i broke my website playing around with dns settings.

[cinder venture]

Yea I literally just burned 10 credits on the acapella dubstep after you guys told me about the harmonica stuff

[unique pulsar]

gotta love it

[jaunty vessel]

That harmonica dubstep was a monkeys paw

i asked for "harmonic dubstep"

[young sage]

Hiya

[wintry seal]

Has anyone tried to reverse engineer the timbaland ai tata track

How was the mixing done

[young sage]

The what

[cinder venture]

I'm surprised it worked, the only style prompt in that is literally "acapella dubstep"

[wintry seal]

I can’t send a link but look up timbaland ai artist song

[jaunty vessel]

sometime simple is best for concepts

[neon spindle]

did you know you can make adlibs? and stutter?

[ancient marlin]

this is the best i had https://suno.com/s/Ke68OvfXr8onhMQX

[jaunty vessel]

now, take the acapella dubstep and mutate it to fit specific intent

[sour igloo]

is the song on suno?

[wind kiln]

did you know you can make <anything>?

[lament dawn]

hiii mrrr treee

[wind kiln]

Yall just lazy thinkers

[cinder venture]

Lets give it a try, here's my new prompt "acapella dubstep, but aggressively yelling at the suno discord about being weirdos"

[lament dawn]

why think when u can create

[jaunty vessel]

You can do anything!
Just take a look, its in a book
Its reading rainbow!

[ancient marlin]

just lazy in general

[wintry seal]

That’s the best sounding ai thing I’ve seen so far

[neon spindle]

aloha

[rugged pulsar]

According to the last 2 hours we don't make anything 😝

[sour igloo]

advise on how to improve, clown

[wind kiln]

Can I be a real boy?

[sour igloo]

i'm multitasking

[wintry seal]

I’m not sure, there’s music video on YouTube

[jaunty vessel]

How to improve from lazy thinking?
Challenge yourself to learn new skills

[cinder venture]

Or you can double down on the lazy thinking and not think at all

[rugged pulsar]

I wish I could lol

[sour igloo]

they use other tools apart from AI too

[wind kiln]

Don't ask if you can do something, atleast give it a try. Try different approaches, synonyms, non standard phrasing.

[cinder venture]

why think when you can vibe?

[jaunty vessel]

There is no try, there is only do

[flat oak]

What's up Suno Gods!

[jaunty vessel]

you do not try or try not, you only do, or do not

[lament dawn]

what is a god

[young sage]

Ooo me me

[compact cradle]

Like preforming your songs at the bar Karaoke 🎤 style

[flat oak]

higher power opps

[cinder venture]

I'm 100% singing acapella dubstep at karaoke

[sour igloo]

comedian, jester, fool, zany, harlequin

[cinder venture]

wub wub wub wubble wub

[wind kiln]

It's what you get when you turn your dog insideout.

[flat oak]

200 special people in these rooms I roam

[wintry seal]

So how close can we get just in suno I wonder

[young sage]

Ai does like 40% of my thinking now that I have the NWO microchip uwu

[sour igloo]

how much time and patience do you have in your hands?

[cinder venture]

why is it uwu and not OOOHWOOO

[sour igloo]

very close

[wintry seal]

And how good is the private tools compared to public

[lament dawn]

the future is near when Ai will be in the cars of radio

[wind kiln]

Smooth brain disease

[sour igloo]

which kind of special?

[wintry seal]

I have as much time as anybody else 😂

[young sage]

Ill be in your car then

[flat oak]

27th this music on spotify got me 493 listens so Suno is doing something with my lyrics that the powers

[sour igloo]

do you have premier or pro?

[wintry seal]

Whatever the highest tier is

[scenic dew]

this prompt seems to work ok on fresh gens, dunno about cover though "90s 16bit videogame electronica; Designed around the Sega Mega Drive’s hardware, the track showcases the YM2612 FM chip through gritty, overdriven basses, metallic EP chords, hollow digital brass, and glassy bell leads shaped by FM algorithms rather than filters. The SN76489 PSG contributes sharp noise bursts and square-wave accents for hi-hats and top-end bite. Production leans into DAC crunch on kick drums and strict polyphony limits, rotating leads. Transitions favor abrupt cutoffs, timbre swaps, and octave jumps. vocal character emerges from FM “talking” leads and call-and-response between FM channels and PSG parts, reinforcing a distinctly Mega Drive sound."

[plain nest]

Why think so much just feel, let ai do the thinking

[sour igloo]

how well do you know suno studio ?

[wintry seal]

I’ve been using it nonstop since a week before Christmas, but I’d say I’m still a newbie

[cinder venture]

gross "feeling" ewww

thinking, feeling, what is all this work yall talking bout

[lament dawn]

vibe to this mr treeee https://suno.com/s/MBXR6VlVU39n1ga1

[flat oak]

just need help on my dubstep game and learning prompts creation I'm tired of asking chat gpt for help

[neon spindle]

hey gpt, tell me how to think please. In the best case with just 50 percent made up facts. ™

[scenic dew]

congrations, the first step is knowing you have a dub

[sour igloo]

if you keep going you can do something equally good unless you want to strictly replicate

[pallid pendant]

https://suno.com/s/6lMBPeA0b1PTvm3B

[cinder venture]

you can make anything into dubstep

[jaunty vessel]

AI doesnt think, it only transforms patterns

[young sage]

Hey you yes you. Sign this NDC please

[cinder venture]

you want to hear dolphin dubstep? give me 2 mins

[static merlin]

I feel like I need to make a song before the 1st.

[wintry seal]

Yeah I’m not trying to replicate, I’m still searching for “my” persona

[static merlin]

But I got no inspiration rn

[flat oak]

lyrics gotta be good

[young sage]

Ill inspire you..~

[cinder venture]

the lyrics to dubstep are wub wub wub wub

[static merlin]

Idk who u are

[cinder venture]

wubble wubbity wub

[broken oriole]

If you let it - most people don't really use GPT for anything intelligently based - it's incredibly powerful when used properly

[scenic dew]

every time i think i found my favorite persona, i find a totally diff sound a month or two later

[young sage]

Make a song about vader singing in opera, and techno @static merlin

[wintry seal]

I’m not sure though, if I can use an persons across songs

[rugged pulsar]

If you don't see it there's a YouTube from Suno

[wintry seal]

Or if I need a new persona for each song

[sour igloo]

sounds great!!

[static merlin]

No I'm good.
I don't wanna make a joke song.

[wintry seal]

Well I’m trying to find my voice, not just something that sounds good.

[sour igloo]

you don't have to use persona

it can be messy

[young sage]

It'll be good

[scenic dew]

how about Boba drinking Boba ?

[wind kiln]

I find terms that I like to tune more, stuff like LFO. The rest are more generic terms likst anything-step. Filthstep is one I've been using since v3. And just add flavour words that aren't standard to not sound like everything else. Throw a wrench in the mix with an out there instrument or cool repeat rhyme.

[static merlin]

I also don't attempt to make songs that sound like characters

[young sage]

No get out

[static merlin]

You go ahead and do it though.

[plain nest]

Give it a listen if you have time, my recent one
https://suno.com/s/2NODY81oskOg0rUK

[broken oriole]

I made a joke song - https://suno.com/song/3afca2f2-5fc6-4f98-ac6a-12a070fa397c

[rugged pulsar]

Left hand side center above prompt area

[cinder venture]

Here's dolphin dubstep: https://suno.com/s/U5npV4YTlDnHd1yj - you can make anything dubstep

[wintry seal]

So just using cover feature then, and generate until I find my voice?

[sour igloo]

persona sometimes adds unwanted shimmer effect, not sure the update on personas changed anything

[cinder venture]

Give me a concept, and I'll turn it dubstep rn

[wind kiln]

Peanutbutter

[flat oak]

thank you opti

[sour igloo]

why do you want cover instead of clean generation? what do you want to achieve?

[jaunty vessel]

If you are wanting to level up your suno prompting game please check out this guide I wrote on incorperating basic music theory into your prompts 😄
https://discord.com/channels/1069381916492562582/1435818839257645216

You really dont need a degree in music theory to use the basics of it.

[lament dawn]

vibe to this https://suno.com/s/hAMSejaJaYzOCdFp :]

[flat oak]

okay time to get to work lol

[sour igloo]

do you need a very specific voice for some reason? you can have a different voice each song, doesn't matter much

[lament dawn]

cooking in that basement

[neon spindle]

if you invest the time in fact checking and correcting instead of gathering infos, yes.
But that shift hasnt set in yet, its taken as a magic truth telling machine. Thats problematic.

[flat oak]

confit

[wintry seal]

I was using persona to “save” my progress, every time I get closer to my voice I lock it in so the next generations will sound more like me

But the issue is I have one take where it sounded quite close to me. And then all the subsequent generations sounds different 😂

[wind kiln]

Theory Shmeory.

[wintry seal]

Yeah I’m a rapper trying to build a personal brand

[sour igloo]

hmm interesting

[static merlin]

If you're a rapper then make instrumental beats and rap yourself o.o

[wintry seal]

I do, I use the cover feature mainly for mixing

[broken oriole]

disagree - if you constrain it with projects and instructional sets it works fine and most things it just doesn't pull a rabbit out of a hat.

[wintry seal]

Because I can’t afford industry standard quality

[sour igloo]

isn't it more about the lyrics than the voice in rap songs?

[jaunty vessel]

I use gpt to tell me where im screwing up my math 😛
I also occationally debate philosophy with it, but thats just for fun

[static merlin]

Ah then stem out the vocals and add your own

[lilac scarab]

something slow https://suno.com/song/aec9cfff-a997-4d56-989c-e712562c6e2c

[cinder venture]

alright just seeing which peanut butter dubstep song is better 1 sec

[lament dawn]

vibe to this :] https://suno.com/s/hAMSejaJaYzOCdFp

[wintry seal]

I do agree! I want everything to be the best it can be though.

[wind kiln]

It's not even for what it's used, it's the role it's taking.

[wintry seal]

It’s the vocal production I struggle with the most

[cinder venture]

@wind kiln Here's your peanut butter dubstep song: https://suno.com/s/20GEh44RTwJyqv1o

[static merlin]

Wanna hear an insane "rap" piece?

[wind kiln]

People don't think, that's scary.

[wintry seal]

Like for laid back delivery, you really need a good mic for it

[wintry seal]

Sure

[sour igloo]

suno has best generations when you do it from scratch usually

then remaster occasionally works

but still you get shimmer occasionally no matter what

[wintry seal]

Yes shimmer I hate the shimmer lol

[sour igloo]

it's like artefacts on image generators

[wintry seal]

Sounds wayyyy too much like pop and weird

[static merlin]

Here u go
https://suno.com/s/71WzZfp5nGD4U2go

[broken oriole]

I use gpt pro - I am also an electrician by trade. I have project folder with my codebooks, local codes, and all sorts of stuff -

I ask it to find code compliance question references, instruction set requires it to use the code book - works like a charm and saves me a crapload of page turning

[scenic dew]

they belong in a museum!

[lament dawn]

only thing that would need to be in a museum is you w rizz

[sour igloo]

ah you like fallout too ?

[wintry seal]

Hmmm so strange, I thought I could use suno in a way where if I can make the best choice over and over I can just continue to improve it until it’s exceptional

But maybe this isn’t the case

[scenic dew]

https://tenor.com/view/it-belongs-in-a-museum-indiana-jones-the-last-crusade-harrison-ford-raining-gif-1142834851059906733

[cinder venture]

Anyone else doubt you can turn anything into dubstep? I'll take more challenges

[static merlin]

Nah you gotta master it outside the ai capabilities to make it exceptional

[wind kiln]

https://suno.com/s/ZYCaUDAMyGtm6seo

[wintry seal]

Word

So it’s good for demos

But not final product

[broken oriole]

just becasue you can - doesnt mean you should

[scenic dew]

i've been having fun turning smooth/romantic styles like r&b or bachata into noiserock

[sour igloo]

i'm going to snipe your loot when you exit that tomb ! if you say that one more time

[static merlin]

Yeah, I use reaper to edit my stems and mixes then master

[wintry seal]

I find also, complex flows it really struggles with

[young sage]

Dubstep jazz/classical with a hint of death metal

[wintry seal]

Like syllable placement

Idk how far away it is from replicating that

[cinder venture]

Ok, turn the discord user Saffryn into dubstep

[rugged pulsar]

No there's a huge learning curve, years of work if trail and error, building personas learning ai video and gen, writing lyrics, I generally spent 18 hours a day

[neon spindle]

I do that with covers. I generate something that i like for example the melodies in, then i cover it in different styles to shape it more in the direction i like it... That over and over again.

[winged trellis]

Heres a song
https://suno.com/s/GIcgCBCf9rXE9Q32

[lament dawn]

u like song mr treee

:]

[neon spindle]

sometimes yes 😄

[scenic dew]

here's a saffy song you can turn into dubstep if ya want https://suno.com/song/da37e223-0781-4c3f-b39d-bdf0aa762cc4

[cinder venture]

Well I was trying to crawl the internet and your links for information about you

like bios and stuff

but I couldnt find anything

[slow mulch]

Well there has to be a way to use your own voice on this

[weary scarab]

someone maybe can tell me why suno is not generating vocals for me but only instrumentals? i togged of ''instrumental'' option

[cinder venture]

mission aborted, it will take too much time to gather data on target Saffryn

[neon spindle]

upload

[wind kiln]

https://suno.com/s/HvKmS7XevmG74UlY

[static merlin]

Yeah, I've found " " — - – ( ) ... and many other symbols effect the way words are extended to directed

[cinder venture]

Have any of yall made diss tricks for your real life friends yet?

[frank seal]

~ too

[cinder venture]

Like yo dude wake up and get outta my house?

[scenic dew]

that goes in the.... square hole!

[static merlin]

Ahh yeah I use that in refrains a lot

[slow mulch]

Try to make vocals for deep house techno with your own voice

And we can discuss uploading afterwards 😂

[neon spindle]

my voice is optimal for some comedy... maybe... but not to sing 😄

[rugged pulsar]

That's the start of the process tho

[wintry seal]

@rugged pulsar can you link some of your stuff?

[frank seal]

Suno can fix that - lol

[cinder venture]

That was the wrong link, here's the pizza song link: https://suno.com/song/efbaedac-0e7f-491b-9a4e-0b3d1c6ef076?sh=LTDszynfy57UX1yh

[rugged pulsar]

The only stuff I do here is songs of love stuff rly

[wind kiln]

The more you use suno, the less there's actually behind a persona or prompt.

[wintry seal]

Can you link it

[wind kiln]

Use the right words that work with your expectations and blammo.

[cinder venture]

Cowabunga every day

[wind kiln]

It's just google search with scrabble.

[slow mulch]

Im pretty glad about my suno I got 3 albums on the way

Produced +2000 till noe

[wind kiln]

You mean generatedd?

[broken oriole]

I can't personally stay committed to one genre long enough - I like too much stuff and really take that ecclecticness to the 9s letting the ai try and strectch its legs

[slow mulch]

But the vocals man agh

[graceful shadow]

@wind kiln pick a style

[lost granite]

hey guys can anybody help me out been trying to use my persona when i do use it i get a like glitch in the song for some reason idk i used the same perosn on a different song and it was perfect

[wind kiln]

Several of my workspaces have that three times for one track

[wintry seal]

Have you tried turning down the audio influence

[slow mulch]

You mean 6000 for 1 track?

[lost granite]

i can try that see if it will help

[wind kiln]

Hyper-minimalistDub

[graceful shadow]

bet

[static merlin]

Opti was that square peg song one of your crazy amount of extend songs?

[wintry seal]

@rugged pulsar I’d love to see your stuff! Got a suno link?

[wind kiln]

Just 9 I think.

[slow mulch]

Either you havent optimized your using of suno or you are lying sorry. And Im not counting the changes sub-generations I make

[covert cradle]

Based on a metaphor “better where you left it”
https://suno.com/s/NiPKjZiOgC3FSViy

[static merlin]

Ahhh I need to go back into doing short extends on songs.

I used to all the time. Did I get lazy?

[slow mulch]

But 6000 generations for 1 track sounds like highly highly sloppy or a lie

[wintry seal]

6000!!???

[static merlin]

6000 creds or gens?

[wind kiln]

Oh no, my prompts are solid in 3-5 tries. I just revise lyrics a lot.

[slow mulch]

Ask Opti

[static merlin]

Cause 6000 creds is believable

[flat oak]

Spend em if you got em feed Suno

[static merlin]

Oh yeah I just cover when I edit my lyrics 😂

[broken oriole]

seconds this

[static merlin]

Every edit is another cover or a full retry

[slow mulch]

Thats doesnt mean song

[ancient marlin]

anyone else bounce around genres im trying to find one that best suits me

[broken oriole]

in the editor adding stuff is like 3-5 credits per spin

[covert cradle]

Hi 👋

[slow mulch]

I ment I got +2000 songs jesus this is not a competetion

[ancient marlin]

hi

[static merlin]

Nah using the editor to recreate sucks

[jaunty vessel]

i tend to do insane style smashups until i find something I like. Its how i stumbled across my industrial bardcore vibe 😄

[unborn pecan]

hellooooo pim

[static merlin]

It's more like 30 - 40 attempts to get a viable one

I rather just cover

[wind kiln]

Then why debunk it silly

[quaint oar]

Or just extremely picky. I have thousands of credits in some of these tracks I have and a portion of that is remixed off my own stuff.

[jaunty vessel]

ive also tried doom metal chamber music...

[wind kiln]

Weirdo

[wintry seal]

Ok I will ask again I asked last night and got varying answers, do people find the first gens are generally speaking superior to future gens

Especially when using cover feature

[ancient marlin]

can i follow you

[covert cradle]

Hi 👋 what’s up? Hope you’re doing well

[broken oriole]

not always

[graceful shadow]

glitched lofi, abstract lofi, glitched, vocal chops, abstract, glitchy, sad chill, hyper pop lofi

[slow mulch]

I was making a point, whatever

[jaunty vessel]

always glad to have a new follower 😄

[slow mulch]

I mean guys

[wind kiln]

Depends, sometimes it has a wow factor that just washes away after a while.

[ancient marlin]

i have done all sorts lol

[wintry seal]

Yes very true

[static merlin]

2000 songs? Are they good?

[ancient marlin]

can you link a song so i can find you

[static merlin]

Are they finished?

[wintry seal]

Sleeping on it is key

Imo

[unborn pecan]

Gave myself food poisoning actually 💀 Are you having a good birthday?

[slow mulch]

I got my own selection of 34 of them divided into 3 albums.

[wind kiln]

Skill Issue

or GG.

Depends on what your intention was.

[jaunty vessel]

https://suno.com/s/BBiiquxvs2W3nGE2 < here is one of my fav gens

[slow mulch]

34 of them finished.

[graceful shadow]

you can try my app if you want i have tones of styles on there app in my bio

[unborn pecan]

My intention was to eat lunch

[wind kiln]

Don't eat bad lunch

[static merlin]

That makes more sense. You meant gens?

[wind kiln]

[wintry seal]

Timbaland is a 10/10 producer anyways that tata track is so clean

[static merlin]

I got about 40k gens 😂

[wintry seal]

Gah

[ancient marlin]

this slaps tbf

[graceful shadow]

@wind kiln thanks for the style made this for you https://suno.com/s/BB27e6UxM1l1xbgz

[slow mulch]

Well again Im talking about songs not gens or credits

[broken oriole]

jesus f - do just randomly press the button all day

[static merlin]

No, most my songs take about 1200 credits.

[covert cradle]

Hope you’ll feel better from that 🫂
Birthday was okay got a new headphone and ate good food
Was hoping to share songs again but seems talking mode in here right now

[static merlin]

And I been on here for over a year

[slow mulch]

Well guys you spend so much credits to songs

[unborn pecan]

Glad you had a good birthday

[slow mulch]

You should master the prompt

Not editing, Imo.

[static merlin]

It's not about the prompt. It's about the sound.

[slow mulch]

Well for me everything is about the prompt.

[wintry seal]

I’ve found the prompt to just be a starting point

[static merlin]

We gonna hear your song? You just hear you brag about your skills in prompt

[scenic apex]

evening all. A comedy tribute to college Bowl Football games . https://suno.com/s/bE5EmXAvAPcyIknR

[wintry seal]

I can’t get a high degeee of control with just prompt

[covert cradle]

Guess I’ll drop one for you in case you want to later
https://suno.com/s/KOLwkitmCHYNf1lh

[exotic elbow]

My prompting game is next gen fr fr

[slow mulch]

My words would get much more credit when I release.

[lost granite]

can you tell me what im doing wrong on my song

[static merlin]

Probably not I'm not a master prompter like Caeser

[ancient marlin]

https://suno.com/s/ipQ7DHlRLDUdxmuN

[lost granite]

lmaoooo

[slow mulch]

Just think outside the box and try many things.

[neon spindle]

if my listeners say "thats a good prompt" ... i have made something wrong ... because they should say "thats good music"

[static merlin]

I like my music (:

[exotic elbow]

I'm a challenger level prompter

[wintry seal]

Caesar got a link?

[slow mulch]

Im actually in between publicisng all in suno and climb or just save it fms till release.

[wintry seal]

Rs tree

[static merlin]

Exactly! They should say. That made me cry

Or I felt heard from that song

[lost granite]

this song is damn near good but for some reason it glitches whyyyy suno im literally in love with it https://suno.com/s/rbM80eVmw5rE8zgQ

[wintry seal]

Surely you have one thing you can share

[jaunty vessel]

This is not a good prompt or a good song...
https://suno.com/s/Ik5nbL1WcMklLeNn
This is the result of 4am boredom and bad decisions

[slow mulch]

Well all I can say, I can even arrange the song as I want it to be vocal construct and melodied.

[static merlin]

Goodluck with that. Have fun I don't put anything public on Suno except joke songs 😂

[wintry seal]

Gatekeeper 🙄

[slow mulch]

Same here. 0 public out of 2000

[unique pulsar]

tanks for listening to my new wubs

[static merlin]

I'll check in a bit waiting on pizza

[slow mulch]

Guys Im not bragging

[static merlin]

Spocky chann

[keen junco]

https://suno.com/s/evYfpULfu92R5TjE unsure if ya will like it hmm and evenings all

[lost granite]

pineapple on the pizza?

[jaunty vessel]

I didnt catch the link mind posting it again?

[static merlin]

Trust me, it's nothing to brag about 😂

[slow mulch]

Im gonna explain everything after I release.

[static merlin]

Gross no

[jaunty vessel]

is to lazy to use the discord search feature

[slow mulch]

Exactly its not even us, its suno doing it

[unique pulsar]

nah its a good reason for me to post again

https://suno.com/s/SKuHqHn9vew97gI3

only shared it like 3 hours ago