What's are the exact bonuses of manager effects?

[grave sierra]

Specifically the "Spawn Rate" and "Auto Vacuum" ones. I've been thinking about it as most people say spawn rate is better for the currently active area but why?

Some random numbers lets say I generate 100dust/sec, if I get 20% spawn rate assuming bonus applies after all other calculations then I'm getting 120dust/sec (if the calculation is not done this way then it's even worse). Likewise with 20% auto vacuum i'm passively getting 20dust/sec whether i'm in that area or not so why would I ever want the spawn rate over the auto vacuum? I guess @signal silo you might be the only one able to answer this as we don't have any official info about how the manager boosts are calculated and what they actually affect.

What's are the exact bonuses of manager effects?

[signal silo]

Manager effects are applied after all other bonuses as you mention. You are right that there is little reason to opt for spawn rate when auto vac basically is better. I might have to tweak the values a bit 😄

[grave sierra]

ye spawn rate values should be like double if that's the case.

[visual niche]

you can swap them out and clearly see a difference. So its not as simple as you have described. I dont know any of the exact math though, just observations.

[grave sierra]

But Benz just confirmed there's no difference 🧐 I also tried it but I can't really tell a difference

[visual niche]

its a pretty significant and noticeable difference for me when I swap them

[signal silo]

I will have to investigate it further then. Might be because of compounding effects. But in general auto vac will calculate the dust per second and give you x % of that and spawn rate will apply x % spawn rate on top of the current spawn rate.

[minor adder]

I've noticed that I can acquire the same amount of dust as I get from chest rewards, say a 9 minute reward, in significantly less time than the stated 9 minutes. If the dust/second calculation used for Autovac Manager skills shares the same formula as the calculation for chest rewards, perhaps that formula could be worth looking in on?

[grave sierra]

I think that's a different thing because you get lots of dust from lumps and I don't think the afk reward considers lumps.

[minor adder]

Just tested, even without lumps (0/20 in lump spawning) and with the removal of all managers that affected dust income, (Spawn Rate, Auto Vacuum, All Spawn Rate, All Auto Vacuum) I'm getting far more dust from just vacuuming normally for 1 minute than I received from a chest that awarded 8 minutes' worth of dust. I did not purchase any upgrades that would affect dust income after receiving the 8 minute chest yield.

A generous estimate of what I received from that 8 minute reward would be somewhere in the neighborhood of 30k. Meanwhile, it takes me just under half a minute (upwards of 26 seconds) to earn 10k with no lumps and no manager-sourced income modifiers. Below are my upgrades for the dust variant I tested with, which have remained the same between my getting an 8 minute reward and my timing tests for reaching +10k; breakdown of current stats, respectively, is: 160; 25; and .7 sec.

More stats: another chest awarded 85k for 13 minutes, but this was after upgrading Carpet & Spawn Rate to 21 and buying 13 levels in lump spawning.

[signal silo]

The calculation does consider lumps as well.

[signal silo]

As for dust chest rewards they give what you have gotten in x offline minutes so it will be less than had you played for that amount of time. I might consider bumping that a bit though.

[desert lintel]

Bump :heart: