#Make Everyone Bi (Romance)

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lilac garden
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Make Everyone Bi (Romance)

violet cargo
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I don't think all survivors should be bi, especially cuz you have survivors like Lester, Hudson and ||bowman|| who look like they'd yell slurs at the sight of a queer person-

lilac garden
violet cargo
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I can definitely see a mod being made to make all survivors bi, but I highly doubt it'd be a official option ingame

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The number of queer survivors in game feels realistic, and it makes me appreciate them more

lilac garden
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I’m on the other side of the spectrum, everyone being bi means you can just make them love whoever, it could be an option in the run-maker menu

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Like I already deal with enough of majority of game casts only being cishet so it would just be refreshing

violet cargo
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I know trans people have existed for ages

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But it'd make sense to not have openly trans characters, considering how prejudice the decade was

lilac garden
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Do the zombies get the pass.

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ChiiAngry I explode

violet cargo
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Like I'd be more than happy to see a openly trans survivor, but I can also understand the lack of one

keen sand
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One of the bigger issues of the game is having each survivor feel distinct from one another + making them feel like actual people. Making everyone bi would just make survivors feel like play dolls more than human beings, option or not.

lilac garden
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And yet I can make whoever I want be friends with each other, and they never have any instance where they’re just like “I can’t stand this person but for the sake of the group I’ll shut up”, and etc?

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They’re already play dolls, like I’m making them drink coffee and sleep when they’re tired, yada yada

soft field
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People don’t get along with others

lilac garden
soft field
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There is literally a curveball calling Aubrey annoying leo_wheeze

lilac garden
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I meant in the way of like they’ll just go back to normal anyway; especially if you modify your relationship difficulty

keen sand
lilac garden
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It could atleast be an option, there’s no harm in it. We have zombies and people reanimating from infectious bites and scratches but a choice to put anyone together optionally is too much?

violet cargo
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Also making everyone bi would kinda be gay/lesbian erasure-

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Franks canonically won't date women and Barb canonically won't date men

lilac garden
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I’m a gay man myself and I personally would not really mind it. I respect your onion tho chii_thumb

violet cargo
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You might not mind, but it means the world to me that Barb is canonically a lesbian, as I myself am a lesbian

lilac garden
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I was meaning as a “romance difficulty” slider or smth (I lack the word for it) and you can set it as “Static” or “Dynamic”. I genuinely just view it as harmless.

keen sand
lilac garden
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That’s why it would be an option

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That must be chosen as a modifier before you start your run

keen sand
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Regardless, I think it's highly unlikely a change like this would happen in the main game.

Maybe in a mod of ODD.

lilac garden
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Thank you

quasi glen
mystic robin
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I think fan service like this is rather reductive especially to LGBTQ+ representation as it devolves it to fanfic writing

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You guys probably already gave opinions and all

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but that's my opinion

quasi glen
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Understandable. And yeah, if they add modding support I'd be surprised if something like this doesn't get added. But it's being canon? Eh, I think it doesn't fit very well. It's not a bad thing, love who ya love, but yeah I agree it takes away from gay and lesbian characters if everyone loves everyone

mystic robin
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If the game wants to go into it then it would be cool but only if its treated on its fundamentals and not dolls kissing

patent cloak
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If you want smth like that just mod it. Not everyone has to be bi in the game.

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I have nothing against it, I mean I’m fine with character like Barb and Frank being gay, but to a realistic standpoint it doesn’t make sense for everyone to be bi.

mystic robin
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I think the fascination with shipping culture is because ODD is still underdeveloped at this point

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So people don't have much to work with and are building their own

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But realistically virtually every survivor has some sort of trauma

quasi glen
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Yeah. That's one thing about romance in early apocalypse games, everyone has lost someone close to them, romance would definitely be last on a long list of worries I'd have in the apocalypse

mystic robin
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Especially people like Michelle

violet cargo
mystic robin
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yeah

patent cloak
violet cargo
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His wife didn't die to the outbreak but should still be grieving

violet cargo
lilac garden
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idk shrug

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I should explain that it's shrimply a personal gripe with majority of games doing that, there's no harm in it!

mystic robin
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I mean nothing is being said with that statement of romance beyond "awh shucks they smooch"

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Its doing the opposite

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If there is no depth in a relationship and it is just a variable like hunger is it exists only to validate what fans want the game to look like

lilac garden
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i steal your wallet

violet cargo
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There might be more

mystic robin
violet cargo
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But people haven't tested it out yet

lilac garden
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im just being terribly greedy by wanting something so apparently unrealistic in a zombie game

patent cloak
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In a zombie game with realistic aspects

mystic robin
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I think its more-so how it provides value to the game

lilac garden
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is there value in limitations for an optional and non-required thing, naur

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i explode like pipe bomb

mystic robin
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Its kinda silly though

lilac garden
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thank you

mystic robin
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I know but like it was said earlier that should be smth that is modded

soft field
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lilac garden
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What are you talking about

mystic robin
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Ogey

soft field
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Since the topic is getting a bit sensitive leo_love

mystic robin
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I mean both of us are respecting the idea of LGBTQ+ peoples

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I'm gay myself

lilac garden
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Me too

soft field
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Just reminding leo_love

lilac garden
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ok

soft field
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Please don’t argue with the mods leo_love

mystic robin
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Fair

lilac garden
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um..

mystic robin
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That was just clarifying

lilac garden
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ok

mystic robin
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Gay representation in media is good but having it as a radiant aspect that can be traded like a deck of cards cheapens the emotional value of it. Especially since this is the 1980s this is the era of awareness

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Smth like Larry actually being Frank's boyfriend would be substantive

lilac garden
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Idk from looking at other threads, none of them are getting the same level of attention as an idea regarding removing the limitations for something ultimately harmless (to which i'm not surprised it's regarding romance that you have to push using a resource in the game to even pursue). But everyone is entitled to their opinion! shrug

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It was fun to entertain is all.

mystic robin
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Kinda implying something with that but I don't want to be smited so I'll leave it here

lilac garden
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Nuh uh, it's not personal I assure you

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It's an overarching thing in most video game communities chii_thumb

lavish epoch
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I feel like this discussion need to be LOCKED and never seen again dianne_facepalm