(beta feedback) 1v1 doors are way too slow lol

[steel surge]

please make it open like 3x faster it makes no sense to have to dribble my opponent 5 times to try and shoot the ball into a tiny hole lol the game just becomes a huge spam of dribbles and tackles until the goal door is open enough for a shot to go in

[versed fern]

I agree, but it would only be effective if the mechanics improved and new moves and dribbling options were added. And if the mechanics improve there won't be a need for opening and closing doors even though I Like the concept of it.

[steel surge]

i mean theres enough dribbling to get a 1v1 going, even if theres not a lot of variety

maybe just changing stamina consumption a little bit and making the entire net open instantly when you get in the box would be good

[analog schooner]

I think they are just trying to throw at the wall and hopes anything sticks. Very unlikely that they are gonna come up with any changes until a major overhaul to how the game plays but it may not be even the same game anymore lol

[short folio]

If you think it opens slow you are either delusional or horrible at the game

Right now it should open almost twice as slow, if you mess up once on offense and get jabbed all the defense has to do is just pushball it all the way down and walk it into net, you have no real chance of playing defense

That’s why if it opened twice as slow or 1.5x it would give the offense a chance to actually play defense

[vivid violet]

but honestly is that bad for this game mode??? Do ppl actually want 1v1 to be constant wrestling in the corners? I honestly don't mind the fact that if u mess up its basically a point for the opp, unless they hit the door when its opening lmao

[short folio]

No, you should have a chance to play both sides of the ball. And the skill gap will raise too, people can’t get lucky jabs and win off of it

[silver plover]

I can tell this guy can’t dribble

[vivid violet]

considering the conversations we have already had, I would hope that is one of the things you have picked up on

but tbh, I don't consider what you do as dribbling anyway so I guess we both have something we mutually agree on 🤷

[vivid violet]

so maybe fix the tackle so it's not a stupid heat seeking missile?

do you watch 1v1 football? if you get done, the ball is most likely going in

getting hard beat should result in a goal, simple as that really, anything else just turns into a mess

if you lose the ball awkwardly in the corner, you do still have a chance to defend it

the opening time on the goal is fine rn imo. If you get beat, you get beat. Otherwise it just turns into a stupid - oh oops I beat you srry, let me just dribble in circles for a second for no fucking reason. That's so cringe, just score the goal and go next 🤷

[versed fern]

What you mean to say, is this guy finds the dribbling in this game absurdly shallow & completely boring that it defeats the purpose of playing a game, yeah? The dribbling is easy except it really sucks so how about you stop trolling people and understand why they are expressing the opinions and critiques that they are expressing, be more congenial

[silver plover]

There is plenty of goods ways to learn how to dribble it just takes skill but it seems people like you just wanna be good at it with little to no practice.

[vivid violet]

pointless discussing with you when you cant understand the point being made

[versed fern]

For the love of Beelzebub, God, or whoever! It’s like we say one thing and you and the other clueless players say another. Get it through your thick skull: dribbling is the least fun part; no one claimed it's difficult. Your comment about learning to dribble shows you don’t understand our criticism.

[vivid violet]

personally I don't have a problem at all with a high skill ceiling, infact I tend to prefer those types of games especially comp games. at the same time, im obv not going to waste my time adapting to smth I don't think looks good 🤷

[versed fern]

It's like you intentionally want us to feel dumb debating with you and not progress the conversation forward so have fun mulling it over by yourself

That's what I thought, it makes sense. Put a clown emoji because you got nothing substantial to reply with

[main fossil]

God damn

[vivid violet]

hes had enough lol

[versed fern]

Right?

I could tell he was trolling and as kids say rage baiting but I hoped he had some interesting takes after responding

[silver plover]

I could say plenty but we obviously want two different things so there is no point like talking to a brick wall

[vivid violet]

👀

[silver plover]

👀

[versed fern]

By the way the last line is ridiculous because we are requesting a high skill celling and more nuance in dribbling so that means we have to practice to get better. Your argument doesn’t make sense dawg, think before typing sometime before your idiocy is carved on the internet forums forever.

[silver plover]

My mans really thought he cooked with this one

lol

[versed fern]

If that’s your comeback… then it seems that I have “cooked”. If you can’t reply with anything intelligent, good try nonetheless.

[silver plover]

My mans said 🤓 ☝🏼

[teal badge]

In a 1v1, there would be two separate goals and two separate AI goalkeepers, each configured to largely prevent the ball from entering the net. We could pass the ball to the opponent and shoot at will. It would be very entertaining, as the goalkeepers wouldn't concede easily, but it would also be a bit challenging. After all, 1v1s are all about not only getting past the opponent but also scoring.

[vivid violet]

that would be the ideal end goal ye

true 2v2 with player keepers would also be interesting. Would have to be done so that the keeper is just there to save the shots, no pass backs or any other interference. In terms of AI, just keep it 1v1 with 1 goal and 1 ai keeper imo. Points rewarded for defensive ball control ig. idk if that would work properly actually, maybe just 2 goals is easier haha

[analog schooner]

I think even 3s benefit from this game mode's set up imo. So it doesn't become a long range pass fest between 3 guys with volleys which is hilarious at first to do but gets monotonous quickly

[short folio]

ai goal keepers are not only a waste to put into the game but would be easily exploitable

the new gamemode is good, the gates are good and if you dont like them you dont have enough skill to keep the ball away from the defender, it opens way to fast and needs to be slowed, the pushball meta needs to be fixed and thats one way of doing it

[short folio]

so dont play it?

[short folio]

you want to reward defense with a goal? you reward defense with possession and a chance of a goal

make there be a chance to defend instead of instant goals

it will make it a much bigger skill gap which is good and will force people to play actual rematch instead of cheesy no skill goals

[short folio]

hes jus saying people that cant do something tend to whine about it, they put no effort into learning something and instead whine and the devs see posts like this and it makes the game worse bro

[vivid violet]

You currently have every exploit under the fkn sun, don't talk to me about skill gap when you are complaining about conceding a goal bcz u got hard beat rn (Currently the only time a goal is a guarantee).

You talk about skill gap and skill ceiling when in reality a large portion of the current playerbase is simply crutching on exploits giving the illusion of it 🤷

[vivid violet]

i put effort where effort is due. I play multiple other games and don't complain about them or try to change that gameplay just bcz I get beat. You completely misjudge me and my intentions tbh.

[short folio]

exploit <> tech ur a delusion if u think flickers or vex or pushball and changing the direction you go is a exploit 😭 your cope is actually insane. i get the argument that moves like golden boost is an exploit but i dont agree with them. its people like you that make rematch worse. just put effort into the game and stop bitching about stuff that can be easily defended if ur good at the game. get better

[vivid violet]

na, its you who is coping man. The fact you cant even remotely see how 'flickers' or vex is an exploit is the proof of that.

[short folio]

a tech (technique) is a skillful, often complex, player-discovered method using intended mechanics for advantage, while an exploit is abusing unintended glitches or flaws (bugs) for overpowered results, often breaking game balance

dude u have 0 clue what u are talking about

[vivid violet]

smh

[short folio]

actual idiot man just talking to talk

0 brain cell 😭

[vivid violet]

....

[short folio]

exploits was the header off the wall to make urself fly

flickers were 100% intended man its literally the basic dribble

[vivid violet]

i could argue this for another hour, but i've pretty much seen this entire conversation play out several times and it always results in the same agreements. 'flickers' is not intended. Otherwise changing direction with a pushball would not include animations that purposefully slow you down when going beyond certain ranges of motion.

if you need that stuff to be good, you are crutching.

[short folio]

ok so lets read what a tech is

they obviously know what it is and kept it in the game

[vivid violet]

i legit gtg out, i will reply when im back tho so go crazy lol

[short folio]

i dont even want to argue with you man its like talking to a brick wall

[main fossil]

Just to give 2 cents here, if "flicker" is referring to the changing direction with forward dribble usually followed by pushball, that is entirely intended

Terminology is all over the place though so I don't know what specifically is referred to with flicker here

I would say things stop being exploits and start being actual mechanics when devs start balancing them instead of outright removing them 🙂

Like with Ippy, cold-cut, golden boost

The only "tech" I haven't seen them actively address with balance changes is stuff like the pushball mini-tp and v-cut (the one where you immediately forward pushball in some direction after a pickup animation)

Vexis is also not an exploit as they directly changed how it functioned but intentionally kept it for patch 7

They actually improved the fluidness of the mechanic

So you would no longer be able to call that an exploit

[vivid violet]

bro, I gave you several hours to cook and this is what I am greeted with.

[hollow ice]

carrot you’ve been complaining about exploits for months now lol. and they’re still here. Obv the devs want them there

if it’s so easy to abuse these moves why can’t 90% of the player base do so

it’s because they suck end of story

[vivid violet]

thought u were smarter than that tbh

and 90% of the playerbase does use this shit lmao

[hollow ice]

I got good at the game and obviously my perspective changed as a result

[vivid violet]

that just means ur issue was truly a skill issue 🤷

[hollow ice]

yep and so is complaining about most of these moves

[vivid violet]

this game has given your brainrot sydress :/ u were so sharp b4 ngl

[hollow ice]

when people told me it was a skill issue that I was complaining about them they were 100% right

[vivid violet]

I know ur smarter than this, so just think about my actual points for a second.

(hint: it has literally zero to do with my own capabilities)

[versed fern]

Well said, the clap back was ethereal

[versed fern]

Again, you and the other idiots are either missing his points or you are intentionally pretending you are intellectually superior because you can’t handle the truth trumping your 1 dimensional perspective.

The complaint was never about not being able to defend or do those horrible mechanics. It’s about logical consistency & a visual representation that is fun & makes sense. The golden boost is neither. He’s saying some of you are crutching on the exploits because there is nothing concrete or better that the devs have given us to rely on so yall settle for bs they didn’t intend. You’re are like a mired hive mind that will accept less just to not make an effort for greater experience because you have been let down so many times

Im waiting for this response, better be entertaining

Think & be prudent in your response…

You got it

[versed fern]

Yours was most definitely a skill issue then but that doesn’t change the state of the game

[short folio]

i mean bro he has 0 idea what exploits or what tech even means for starters. and for devs that clearly didnt intend that. 1 they didnt take out any of the dribbling in the game. which means its not an exploit and 2 golden boost is literally influced in the patch 7?? i have literally read all of his points and if he makes vaild ones ill say that, im not arguing to argue. i have no clue what you even mean by the hivemind shit

every dribble move in this game can be easily defended

100%

all i said was people like carrot that whine instead of trying to get better at defending things just like how i practicing over and over again my dribbles ruin the game. the devs listen to the whines and nerf shit and thats how the game died

[versed fern]

See that response right there, is what I was waiting to be disappointed on. You have used that same 1 dimensional response that proves you don’t understand his points. And you didn’t read my response with an open mind because I clearly state that in my text

I have hit masters in the game and have a lot of hours, so I have every right to talk about this let that sink in

[short folio]

bro i hit #1 in ranked goals bro

i kinda understand where ur coming from as a low on the ladder dribbling sure it looks broken but bro try doing that on the higher levels, its actually impossible to get around a comp team

so thats why in the comp scence all you see is set plays and prio ball its horrible

and that comes from people like carrot

instead of growing the skill gap they decreased it

[versed fern]

The devs didn’t nerf it dawg they had to prune it through the bugs and it was essentially getting nerfed and hopefully fully removed. They even confirmed on reddit, they were BUGS! That means as they said they can’t move forward on that basis because it will affect development if they keep those buggs in and consequently the removal of most of the bugs gave the illusion that they intentionally nerfed the golden boost ect. And even if they did do it intentionally, good riddance because that wasn’t even a good mechanic that showcases that you are good. It was a crutch than anyone can do and zip like spider-man to a different part of the field

[main fossil]

Brother I mean this in no ill-will but having this amount of ego for hitting masters with ranked being the way it is is not the way to go

Bad attempt at appeal to authority

[short folio]

prob the worse person to do that too 😭

[versed fern]

Not ego just saying I have hours on the game. If that’s what you got from that then I guess you roll with it

[main fossil]

What I got from it is that you believe you have a valid opinion because of rank + time spent

[short folio]

ok so you are agreeing with me "tech" (technique) refers to complex, often unintended interactions of game mechanics that skilled players master for an advantage, generally seen as legitimate skill expression (e.g., wavedashing). An "exploit" uses a bug or glitch for an unfair, often game-breaking advantage, typically unwanted by developers and players

yes it wasnt intended but it was kept

thats what a tech is

if it was an exploit they would have removed it

dribble moves require skill

[versed fern]

I played alot and seen alot of bs that doesn’t even equate to a remotely excitable mechanical excellence , it’s just people using buggy dribbles and were left disappointed by the statement being made by these emergent mechanics.

[short folio]

the timing, hitting it, actually making it effective, getting passed actual good defenders that know how to defend stuff

that requires skill and alot of people cant do that

espically in masters the defenders are prob horrible

i havent been there in months

i actually dont know whats its like

so its hard to have an opinion on ur experiences

but in the top level dribbling is not used because of how hard/ not awarding it is

thats where im coming from that you guys simply just need to get better. it is very easy to defend in the top levels so its hard for me to hear that its broken. it feels like you guys are you whining because if you put 1 hour into learning how to defend it, its easily punishable

[versed fern]

I agree, the wave-dash was a good example but that shit wasn’t a buggy mess sir. So we treated as a fully fledged mechanic. And don’t compare this abysmal creation with Rocket league because the physics system on there is much more robust and sensical. This game doesn’t even have a collision system, it’s whoever has the better ping wins a 50. If that the game you’re rooting for then you do you.

[short folio]

what dribble move are u refering to

ippy?

first u shouldnt bite on a ippy

[versed fern]

Yes and the golden boost

[short folio]

hes vulnerable after it

but golden boost

with good position you can easily take possession before he does

you just have to learn where to stand

and if u cant make it there

hes vulnerable to a jab

so its not about who ever has a better ping its about skill. sure in some cases the servers shit itself

[versed fern]

Slurp the whole point Im making and I have been making is that the game could implement way better mechanics, most importantly fun mechanics that everyone loves but you clearly and undoubtedly want to settle for less

[short folio]

i agree

[short folio]

i mean im all for having a bigger skill gap thats my thing. i wish they would make the game better but you are like living in a fantasy expecting sloclap to actually do that 😭

[versed fern]

Ill agree with that because you are not wrong but you keep bringing points that aren’t even addressing what we are complaining about. You are addressing the mechanics as if Im helpless to stop them but imagine this. If you win game after game, and shoot down their offense with ur good defense but you know intrinsically tha this game could be way more exhilarating and way more varied, you don’t settle for less and keep your mouth shut because “oh but you can defend against it” do you see how childish that argument is that you made.

[versed fern]

True, Sloclap has disappointed us time and time again but if there’s a seamblance of professionalism and adherence to the community that know what a fun game should be then sure, Ill tell them.

Nothing against Slurp we both have are opinions

I guess

[short folio]

well it seems ur just having a skill issue man, the game is fun when it is easy to defend its just not fun having to dribble around them 😂 its hard but possible with the right dribble moves. i wish they made it balanced and i hope patch 7 can buff dribbling. the game has lost its creative touch with offence and bringing more offence options like either adding new dribble moves or buffing distance/stam would help with that.

in the lower ranks its literally just skill difference and since the poor matchmaking it just feels broken and thats because of the playercount

and i know some dudes that literally go on alt accounts

so ur experiences you likely had have all been caused because of the difference in experience/ skill

[versed fern]

Again you keep disappointing with those responses big dawg. It's like you are not even attempting to understand the other end of the debate table. At least I tried to reason with you and to simplify it but still doesn't seem to register. Someone take over, maybe you can reach these fellas.

The logical fallacies that I have seen in today's "discussion" is baffling.

[short folio]

look u have the experience of a master player, as someone that is the highest on the ladder mine and your experiences are completely different. we will never agree because our experiences are completely different, if u end up sometime competing ur opinion will shift.

[versed fern]

I didn't state I was Masters to frighten you or make myself seem better, I stated it to prove that I have seen all the bullshit. Even all the wins I got with my team and all the OT's we have had fun in we still saw the abtsmal state the game was in we didn't delude ourselves to thinking this is a great experience for the long term. Thats the difference between me and you good sir, I don't see a broken emergent mechanic and lean on it, I think if better implementations to satisfy the arcade and competitive scene but if you are a casual player settling with mediocrity, to each their own padawan.

[silver plover]

Don’t forget blade shot is an exploit

Wasn’t made to be in the game

Should we remove it?

[versed fern]

I forgot about that too, i didnt use it often but yea it was an exploit and not even a fun one to keep spamming

[silver plover]

This just proves the loudest people in here are the ones with the lower skill level and unfortunately sloclap is catering to you

[versed fern]

Mediocre response to feel good about yourself

Whatever helps you sleep at night sure

[silver plover]

There was already no high skill ceiling in competitive tournaments as is with removing half this shit and nerfing everything it’s even less now

[versed fern]

I agree

[silver plover]

There was plenty of it when it came out that’s why there was so many teams and scrims

[versed fern]

Nerfing or fixing the buggs that ended up weakining the terrible mehcs?

[silver plover]

After they started nerfing in patch 3 everyone quit

Most of the player base left not because of these glitches you are talking about they aren’t used as often as you think at the higher level

[versed fern]

Dawg Sloclap stated that it was crucial for them to not keep the buggy mechs because it will effect development but even after knowing that people still bitch and moan. Even if truth hits people in the face they wont acknowldge it

[silver plover]

It was because the game was broken and had game breaking bugs that people hated seeing after spending 30 bucks on a game that was ‘’finished’’

[silver plover]

If that’s the case they should remove everything when they actually have something to replace it with

Not give us this half baked update

[versed fern]

Ok now me and you are on the same page, I 1000% agree with you on that.

[silver plover]

All they did was nerf people with nothing to replace it with so people who are crying can be happy

[versed fern]

I agree, nah you are right

[silver plover]

Most of the top players quit this game because they are catering to the fresh new players in attempt to keep people coming

Which isn’t working btw

[versed fern]

Good discussion, I actually have no rebuttal for that because that was a sensible argument

[silver plover]

And again I like that this game isn’t like real soccer it’s why I play it

The more it heads towards the realistic approach the less I personally wanna play it

[versed fern]

They were working on tenous grounds, so of course the whole project will fall apart, their plan wasn't condusive for longevity

[silver plover]

It wasn’t made to be realistic it was meant to be an arcade game

We’re hitting balls off walls

And if you ever played in scrims or high skill level plays you would now the meta isn’t exploits

Most of those people unless you are insanely cracked get destroyed trying to use tech like that

[versed fern]

Bro it wont, I have played Fifa and Im telling you I don't want realistic FIFA in rematch. I want Fifa street arcade gameplay. Trust me, if you have played fifa street 3 and fifa street 2012 you will understand the potential that game couldve had and how this game could take inspiration from it.

[silver plover]

I played this game because I use to play street hoops which is street basketball

[versed fern]

We want arcade fun, not sluggish football simulation

[silver plover]

But it expanded it because it had tech that required skill

That was my appeal I love golden boost and and drag shots

Is it realistic

No

And in patch 1 and 2 I also thought it was broken

Deff needed to be nerfed a little

I thought they had it perfect this patch

[versed fern]

It's about implementing it in an arcade and consitent manner, its really not about is it realisitc because some of these exploits are derived from realistic moves in real life

[silver plover]

Was good enough to give you an advantage but animation wasn’t broken enough to not defend against it

[versed fern]

I agree

[silver plover]

As someone who uses golden boosts and stuff I can tell you that it gets defended against a good amount of the time

It’s not an automatic goal or breaking the game to the point where it needs to nerfed to the ground

And also almost never see anyone else use it and I play a lot

So I don’t think it’s that big of a problem where everyone is losing all these games to exploits

People see it once every 30 games and they wanna scream at sloclap because they can’t do anything

There’s plenty of people who get good at defending to be able to stop them which honestly isn’t that hard it’s a very predictable move

Left right forward or the opposite

[versed fern]

Everything you said so far I stand by but since they already ruined the player base expectations for the game, what their doing now makes sense, we know that they shouldn't have conducted the project the way they did but they did so... let them experiment even though most of us are probably going to leave the game. They made the bed that they're sleeping in so let them keep making it until it's tidy. You get what I'm saying, we are already in the room of their failed experiments so either we leave and let them figure their mess out and wait for them to invite us back in when they are confident they have a clean breath of fresh air setup or we just ditch em and go play something else

[silver plover]

Unfortunately I think it’s probably just gonna replace there player base if anything. Most people are probably gonna leave

Until they come up with something that actually is worth playing again

[versed fern]

Dude I told my boi, that if the patch 7 dissapoints me Im deleting the game

[silver plover]

I don’t dislike what they did with patch 7 I just don’t think they need to keep nerfing tech

Push ball goes to far imo because it interferes with push cuts

And nerfing ball force with EE just ruins any new tech from developing

I like the movement and the dribbling stance animation they added

It’s good just don’t like how they are changing the way the whole game is played for people who already spent countless hours getting good at the game

[versed fern]

No dude, now they are at the point in development were they are trying to give us new tech to replace the unintended tech. They are just doing it gradually and annoyingly slowly according to their AMA responses on reddit.

[silver plover]

For me personally I don’t have faith in sloclap

They are probably gonna give us some half baked dribbling stuff

I hope I’m wrong

[versed fern]

Me too but its not fun enough yet but Ill judge it when the live update drops

[silver plover]

But for me I think the game was perfect patch 6

[distant stag]

if anything doesnt being in masters mean you have little to no experience in high level play

[silver plover]

Masters is a pretty high rank I wouldn’t say that

You can be In bronze and still be good in this game

I don’t really play ranked I just play scrims against teams

[distant stag]

give me patch 2 "tech" and patch 6 bodyblock hitbox

[silver plover]

😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨

That would be peak

A man can dream

[distant stag]

and maybe like 20% more stamina

[silver plover]

When they nerfed dribbling that was when i saw a pretty big drop off also

[distant stag]

oatch 3 right my theory is introducing crossplay made solo q hell

[silver plover]

Most people who play and like the game don’t complain unfortunately I think that player base gets overlooked which is majority

[distant stag]

since consoles are pretty much just kids on their ps5 tryna play casual

[versed fern]

Like I said, if they disappoint or give us half baked stuff, im more than likely abandoning this game. And dude we didn't even mention their terrible marketing/ trailers. Every trailer they try to hype us and fail, their recent new dribbling trailer showcased only two new mechs and it was a 13 second trailer, like for real?? wtf sloclap!

[distant stag]

no no that player card that pops up when you score is fire

[versed fern]

Look at what Splitgate 2 did with their recent trailers

[versed fern]

True but still not a good trailer

[silver plover]

Don’t take this the wrong way but it just sucks that there doing all these to please players like you and you are ready to drop the game if they don’t deliver

Just sucks for the people who have over 600 hours in staying with the game since the beginning get overlooked

[distant stag]

also oce best player big fan

[silver plover]

I hope they deliver also Gin

Would be better for all of us

[versed fern]

Please players like me? I could say the same about players like you that are willing to accept the mechanics just because they work.

Im just saying

[silver plover]

I’ve played a lot of games where not intended mechs create a whole sub culture within the game so I might be a little bias

But I think it’s what makes the game amazing

[versed fern]

We can tango, Im telling you it's just a different perspective. We will never fullly agree but I understand what you mean by players like me

[distant stag]

ive yet to see any of these tech being gamebreaking ngl its all pretty easily defendable especially in patch 6

[silver plover]

As long as they are not cheating and clear wtf exploits

Deff

I think the game is perfectly balanced right now

[distant stag]

if anything its more mixup options that makes the play interesting and diverse

[silver plover]

I’m not saying I don’t want them to add to it

[versed fern]

I understand

[silver plover]

If you ever played super smash melee almost everything in that was not intended to be in the game

Which is why it was so successful at a competitive level

But if that game came out today it probably would of been patched unfortunately

[versed fern]

Right now after playing patch 7 beta, its seems to be heading in the right direction. They just need to keep developing new ways to entertain us but they have to do internal testing before they give us half baked things

[distant stag]

wouldnt be the case unless sakurai is a big fan of reddit

[versed fern]

I have played it, that shi was fun

[silver plover]

Like golden boost so nerfed just take it out at this point

They throwing me a pitty party 😭

[versed fern]

They removed the buggs that consequently nerfed the golden boost, at least thats what they said

[distant stag]

patch 7 gb is like erectile dysfunction

[silver plover]

I found a way to make it a little fast in some directions but it’s not the same

[versed fern]

Ill be on when patch 7 is out, good talk boiis. We might not agree fully but good conversation

[silver plover]

Ggs Gin

[distant stag]

tbh patch 7 gb was a good fix

[silver plover]

Ehhh not imo

[distant stag]

that ball launch was always the thing that didnt make sense

[distant stag]

idk ive always thought if they were gonna fix it it was gonna be something about that reverse ee ball launch

[silver plover]

Yeah that’s what they did

So you don’t travel as far

[distant stag]

yeah 4 patches too late

[silver plover]

But it also nerfed drag shots

And backward chops

[distant stag]

not a fan of these fake dribble buffs anyways

[silver plover]

To each their own

I liked that this game was played like blue lock or anime

I don’t want realistic lol

I don’t need it to make sense

I wanna have fun

[distant stag]

youre playing a video game

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Yeah exactly lol

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doesnt have to be realistic

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I mean if you take away all the things we are talking about that’s what we have lol

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i play for that dopamine rush and scoring goals is what give it

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All that’s left is just doing pass plays and missle meta

[distant stag]

now theyve made this game getafe simulator obviously the games gonna die

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Which is fine I still do those

But I like to have options

Not be forced to one play style and play

[distant stag]

patch 2 was the good days ngl

there were loads of different playstyles in the comp scene

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Yeah that’s why this game was popular

Once you got rid of that it’s gg

I knew top players in the game that just stopped playing after

[distant stag]

same

im the only one in my og team left playing

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All 5v5 now is slam that ball into the box and volley it

It’s gotten better since they nerfed but people still do it

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all the talks about missile meta for it to still be the main thing

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It just takes more try’s now haha

I mean it makes sense it works

[distant stag]

for 4 whole patch they just made it easier

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I don’t really play like that

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patch 6 gb covers so much ground with the reverse ee ball launch

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I deff throw it in there time to time

[distant stag]

its a good mixup I'd say especially to open space

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But I like to pass around in the box and then lob for the shot to someone when everyone is ball chasing

I’m just gonna see what patch 7 and 8 bring I’m just tired of playing a new game every patch lmao

[distant stag]

until theres 3 in the box and all of them have brains and just sits there with 1 top box ready for bodyblock

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so true lad

they cant keep changing core mechanics every patch