sonic comet
I would like to see some changes to how defend aerially.
I'm currently playing in Elite, and a big portion of the attacks either on my team's favor or against us relies on one player keeping the ball up like a seal.
We've tried shooting, headers, A spam, jumps and tackles but nothing works consistently. Sometimes a well-timed jump does the job but it's not reliable.
Either increase stamina losses to be on par with the regular ground ball push on juggle or make headers be the solution.
uneven halo
Indeed. All aerial gameplay is frustrating — not because it’s offensive or involves dribbling, but because the aerial system has never been properly tuned since the very beginning.
I’m not sure small adjustments that don’t touch the core foundations of the gameplay (or maybe even the code itself) will be enough to give this game the greatness it deserves — it feels too broken from the inside. Still, I have to say this patch has significantly improved the overall experience.
The aerial game will likely remain dominant, simply because, unlike what requires skill, cooperation, finesse, or game intelligence, it’s effective almost 50% of the time with very little effort. It’s effective because it’s too automated.
Triggering a move as powerful as a bicycle kick inside the box should require much more effort than just mashing RT. I’m not asking for a ceiling shot double flip reset like in Rocket League, but still…
sonic comet
yeah man, i'm well aware of aerial gameplay being king as I reached Elite by mostly playing defense as a libero/sweeper and sending crosses from all sides to my attackers
when i was playing ranked with a friend tonight (our lobbies should be master-elite but i'm not sure if that's how matchmaking is working at the moment), every single game had someone on both sides juggling the ball and scoring that way
no crosses, through balls, wall rebounds, long shots nor cheeky ankle breakers at all, every goal came from a juggle
if there is actually a way to deal with it on a consistent manner, I'd encourage ppl to tell me which it is bc it's reaching a point of "juggle or bust"
the thing is...crosses are countered by headers, why shouldn't juggling too?
uneven halo
Also, One of the easy to fix pb of aerial dribbling is the way too long invincibility frame at the start
I totally agree. The way headers (don't) work consistently is one of the biggest issue in this game
iron sigil
First you dont know how to defend. Second you just got the biggest buff on defenders you have ever seen if you want a 30 minute game next patch yes lets go for more nerfs on attacking
cold dome
Aerial play is not a problem, as a defender you can just stay in front of the guy and jump. Look how open the box was in this situation, offense did the usual meta play and still got blocked because the defender hitboxes are the size of a car https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2602858152?t=02h04m37s
lofty oak
Literally just be close to them and spam any input, you will win the interaction unless they aerial dribble directly away from you
Its only hard if youre too slow to press anything
Tackling is not the only way to defend outfield
sonic comet
Aerial play is not a problem, as a defender you can just stay in front of the gu...
i mean, the clip doesn't really showcase any case of juggling, it is standard aerial play which is not the focus of my thread
but if you guys are so certain that there's a consistent way of dealing with juggling, i'll keep looking for it
cheers
tardy lotus
Spamming tackles dives will do this to you
lofty oak
but if you guys are so certain that there's a consistent way of dealing with jug...
Definitely is, I think the name of the game here is just be more patient and learn to expect the aerial juggles and steal the ball from him after the juggle 🙂
Like if he juggles it directly above you, instead of trying to tackle into him, you can just dash backwards and you pickup the ball, you won the interaction, or if you are close enough to interact with ball you can tap blue to do a pushball in any direction, or even pass
It mostly requires you to not only press tackle when you get close to them
sonic comet
completely aware of that
lofty oak
Then you should be able to find ways to deal with it
sonic comet
i agree
lofty oak
Granted its not the easiest thing if they juggle the ball well, if they always outspace you then yeah you can't interact, but all it takes is for you to be ready for 1 slightly off juggle
sonic comet
as i'm seeing that ppl are saying there is actually a way to consistently deal with it, then the way forward is to just keep trying to see if those tips work
main problem now is that the game is super dead so finding matches to test that is getting difficult 😅
outer patrol