#Highly Regret my Preorder

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twilit flume
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What rank are you?

river walrus
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feel the exact same way, im elite and when the patch dropped everyone just looks like they are silvers trying to control it, its so stupid how bad the game has gotten from the last beta

jolly hornet
jolly hornet
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it fees sooooooooo garbage, reading what my opponents going to do, doing the right move and im the one that gets punished

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theres no fight

twilit flume
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got any clips for examples?

jolly hornet
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its touch the ball pass until theres goal

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yea

twilit flume
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please share

jolly hornet
twilit flume
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This is people holding onto the ball and/or not pushing it the right direction. Or taking posession when there's literally no room to move the ball, so a tackle is unavoidable no matter what. Where in those clips did you "read what my opponents going to do, and do the right move" (paraphrasing)? I can explain what mistakes you made in all those clips if you want.

jolly hornet
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this is why i hate clips

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if you dont feel what im saying just say that cuz its gonna go long for no reason

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if playing perfect is your defense for this being good gameplay idk what to tell you

twilit flume
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Its not playing "perfect" it's about actually moving the ball AWAY from the defender. Half the time there you;re getting tackled because you're not actually moving the ball enough

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or the right way

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doesnt have to be perfect, it just has to be more than that...

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ignoring the 1st clip cause you're not close and there's visibly bad ping
2nd clip, you push the ball the exact same direction that the defender tackles. If you had anticipated that tackle properly, you would have pushed it away from that direction. Because you didn't, obviously they're in a position to immediately recover, you had another chance at getting past but you just held the ball and didnt press any buttons.

3rd clip, you did the right move at first, but then failed to anticipate that the defender wasn't actually that far out of position because it wasnt a slide, and you didnt' sprint or push the ball, so youre an easy target. Getting past people is way more than just doing 1 move and baiting a single tackle.

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4th clip they used EE and you didnt

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simple

twilit flume
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what you seem to want is to be able to do 1 push ball, and put a defender completely out of the game

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cause the examples you showed, that seems to be the sticking point. Just because the defender is no longer in front of you doesnt mean you can just light jog and expect to keep the ball.

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one suggestion: Instead of pushing the ball back/side, turn first, that will let your character do the "forward push" which is WAY faster, and easier to catch up to than a side or backheel push. That has had a huge impact on my ability to keep the ball away from defenders.

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You need to anticipate the defenders actions AFTER the initial point you break through them, or use EE to boost past them.

jolly hornet
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i read half and found many things i think are wrong and would like to say but i really didnt wanna get into this

twilit flume
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LMAOO

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then stop playing and go find another game

jolly hornet
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i cant

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i bought the game

twilit flume
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the game isnt what you thought it was

jolly hornet
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its in my library

twilit flume
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thats okay

jolly hornet
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no its not

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i gave them money

twilit flume
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you can still stop playing???

jolly hornet
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i want my money back

twilit flume
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we all make mistakes

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too bad, thats not how life works

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you didnt get tricked bro

jolly hornet
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why are you talking to me about it tho

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what are you doing rn

twilit flume
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you were wrong

jolly hornet
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cool say that and move on

twilit flume
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we are all wrong about things, buy things that we find aren't what we expected

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thats not a fault of the product

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its your expectations

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you got false expecations based on your experience from the beta

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when no one could play the game cause it was new

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now people are semi-competent and you have to match that

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you cant do it all yourself and that upsets you

jolly hornet
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you keep trying to pull me into this wild perception you have to cope and i dont wanna do that

twilit flume
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you wont counter my points

jolly hornet
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theres plenty wrong with everything you said

twilit flume
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so i have to assume

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what

jolly hornet
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because you typed 3 paragraphs and everything i want to say would take the next 30 mins just to type im ok

twilit flume
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yeah so accept that you dont actually care enough to learn why you might be wrong

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thats cool

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its fine

jolly hornet
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dont believe me thats cool, look at the feed back, theres plenty of people feeling the same and i get bumps and ppl telling me they feel me everytime

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its only the people that want to argue for 3 hours that seem to not get it

twilit flume
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im sure you do, there are lots of people who get the wrong idea about what a game is

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most of them just move on mate

jolly hornet
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and you got the right one of course

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how could i

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lmaooooooooo

twilit flume
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I might not be

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but until you actually explain why

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how could I know?

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huh?

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I am just supposed to take YOUR word as gospel

jolly hornet
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cuz youre not open to explination

twilit flume
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but you wont read what I say?

jolly hornet
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you want to argue

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i wanted to know if there were others that also regret their buy

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and there was

twilit flume
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I literally explained what was wrong in your clips to counter your points

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no you wanted to vent

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"I regret my pre-order"

jolly hornet
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i think it can be both?

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why cant i vent and see if anyone else wants to vent

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with out explicitly asking to vent

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hey im ok on this conversation truly

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thanks for your energy

twilit flume
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if you want to jump in a custom and explain to me whats wrong with dribble moves I got plenty of time tomorrow

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👍

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otherwise you just refuse to converse so idk what else to add besides assuming how you think

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Keep using other's having the same misconception about what the game is "meant to be" as justification for hating the game if you want. I'm enjoying the game a lot, and when I see you share those examples of you just holding the ball and getting obviously tackled it made me want to explain why I think you had the wrong idea

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besides that I hope you find a game that matches your expactations in the future

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but I doubt rematch is it for you

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based on what you say

atomic lark
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the netcode is bad and yes it leads to janky moments but almost in almost all of these clips the thing you're highlighting is skill issue related, either from someone else or you. also you have 90+ ping in multiple of the clips u sent and the one that you didn't have 90 ping, you chopped the ball into the direction the defender was tackling

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@jolly hornet

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if u wanna say servers are bad and the location of 90% of the NA servers are horrible which leads to lag and choppy gameplay I won't argue with you on that. but nearly all of these are just bad on-ball decisions from the attackers leading to them being tackled

jolly hornet
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im saying that there were plenty of moments where the defender commited to the wrong move and have no punishment for it

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versus to even reinforce your point, yea lets say attackers play perfectlyl, youll have no stam and the only thing you do is open up a pass, unless your working space directly infront of goal thats all thats going to happen

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why is that fun for yall

twilit flume
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No one is talking about playing perfectly you're the one that keeps bringing that up

twilit flume
jolly hornet
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i enjoy squaring up with people and just moving the ball around and having the opponent size me up before commiting to anything

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thats a concept in any sport

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it makes no sense what so ever to tell someone in a game if you win the interaction you should do even more to punish the opponent

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when you already did

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by reading what they were going to do and making th eright choice

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thats punish

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no more steps

twilit flume
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So a single mistake on defense should always result in a goal?

jolly hornet
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should result in you catching up to the play

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you as a defender are now behind

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and need to catch up

twilit flume
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you cant catch up if the attacker with the ball actually reacts correctly

jolly hornet
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youre next form of agency wilil come when someone makes the next mistake

twilit flume
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you did not in those clips

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A push uses WAY less stamina than a tackle

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so by that logic, someone missing multiple tackles will always be out of the play if the attacker is correctly reading them

jolly hornet
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no its about the same stam and you start recovering during the get up animation

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you continue to lose stam after push off no mater what

twilit flume
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you only recover stam if you dont sprint

jolly hornet
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so its the stam cost of the actual push off + a couple feet of space equals way more than any tackle

twilit flume
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if you miss 2 slide tackles AND have to sprint to catch up

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you wont

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if the guy with the ball just light jogs like you do

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its easy

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want to jump in a custom game?

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I can try to show you what I mean

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and you can show me what you mean

jolly hornet
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he literally turns his body to run backwards

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in any sport or anything ever

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if you make that bad of a read you should lose

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send another man and i can pass or try to catch up

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the attacker should have options to leave a defender in the dust

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andmy only point is that every time an attacker dribbles or something you have every option as a defender always

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thats boring and so dumb

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and its dishonest to look at that and say "you just want one guy to carry, or you dont like teamplay" you know very well its not 0 or 100 its not fun discussing things when you recieve them like that

twilit flume
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So do you want to go into a custom.....?

twilit flume
twilit flume
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I did explain but you refused to read sooo

jolly hornet
twilit flume
jolly hornet
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everyone wants to point out how to play attack perfect but no one ever looks at defense and goes oh they didnt do the right thing there

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becasue its so free it works everytime

jolly hornet
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actually you know what we can do

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you start with the ball at the half

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and i defend

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youll never get inside the box

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never

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the games not designed for it

twilit flume
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sure we can try that

twilit flume
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He blocked me after I smashed him at the 1v1 lmao

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EMan lmk if you calm down we can go again

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I will teach you

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<3

next shadow
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It was designed that way to get the player to pass the ball otherwise u would run into more ball hogs. After u initially got pass the defender u should had been looking to pass the ball defender is going to catch up bcuz u run slower when dribbling. If u wanted to buy more time u can use your boost if u had it

twilit flume
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Literally proved to him that I could get past him if he doesn't defend properly and I can catch back up to him when he doesn't dribble properly. But somehow aparently I was always "guessing correctly" or it was the lag (despite us both having the same ping)

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oh and aparently that wouldn't happen in a real match... can never win with Eman

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and he's a "top 5 player" fucking lmao

atomic lark
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the only reason we're mentioning offense is because you're clipping multiple dribble plays where the attacker messed up and saying its an issue with the game

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u dont have to play it perfect there's 10 better choices you could've made in each of these clips. yet you make a horrible one in nearly every one ur complaining about here, as bex said, u dont have to play perfect... you're the only one who's used that word. all we're saying is that you have to stop hard selling and making horrible on ball decisions and then blaming the game

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if the defender makes the wrong decision, there's multiple good options u have that will punish them yet u take none of them and complain in here