Shot feinting

[frozen thicket]

Pretty simple, if you press space while charging up your shot you push the ball in any direction like normal pushing, feinting can take half a second or so longer for balancing.

[frozen thicket]

Bump

[frozen thicket]

Bump

[frozen thicket]

Bump

[shadow wren]

Bouncing off back board is effectively the same, pointless feature

[frozen thicket]

What if no teammates are nearby, it isn’t useless you can also use it to do chop dribble

[crimson elm]

First, you don't bump your suggestions multiple times in a day, it will be bumped if people have feelings about it and it's worth it.
Second, I've given this some thought as a 20+ year football player whose signature move this was and who fell in love with the game. I first thought it's an obviously missing mechanic, but after playing through the beta I feel it would be way too strong, especially for the goalkeepers.

[frozen thicket]

Sorry about the bump i asked if it was ok in questions i got no answer so i thought it was fine, as for balancing they could make it so you feint slowly so goalkeepers would have time to get the ball of your feet.

Or they could make it so that the feint gets slower more you do it back to back using stamina

[crimson elm]

If it's readable then it's not worth it. It would be great as a dribble maneuver, but the goalie already has enough guesswork with when to rush or where to dive.

[keen sparrow]

This. Unless they make GK way faster and more reactive (which would be insanely hard for the devs I bet), I don’t think faking shots/shot feints are feasible

[crimson elm]

Yeah the whole thing is pretty well balanced. The goalie has enough time to react when the shot comes from further away, when closer you'll have to predict more.

[frozen thicket]

Sorry im back

[frozen thicket]

How about they make the shot power decrease more depending on how much you feinted back to back and the progress resets after a while

Because i would really like to see more dribble moves apart from c for more opportunities

[hallow lake]

How about no

[frozen thicket]

No

[hallow lake]

Indeed

[frozen thicket]

I did write shot feinting nothing showed up what do you mean

[orchid lodge]

Bumping this to piss of @crimson elm. It's a good feature.
We have short lobs but this would be a nice addicion.
Yes, it could make it hard. But it should be readable. And no it wouldn't be not worth it if readable. Literally every move is readable. As GK = just get better.

it shouldn't be done as a shot canceling mechanic though, in my opinion, but as an option when dribbling, sort of like double hitting the dribble.

[orchid lodge]

this no

[late gate]

Game begs for it but it would quite literally be the most broken mechanic so no, we don't need it. We have plenty to be creative with

[frozen thicket]

i don't think we have enough we have overhead pass shorter overhead pass and overhead pass to yourself if not this i think they should definitely add another move

[late gate]

Plus any type of shot towards anywhere and anything with manual control, two types of small tap/push balls that change with all directions and all the prebaked dribble moves that can be canceled into any of these

Regardless, feinting in the middle of all that would be far too much unpredictability

[frozen thicket]

i don't see what's wrong with it being unpredictable, like i said if it is overpowered they could nerf it with one of the 3 ways i suggested.

[thin palm]

My bad. There's a monster-long and very tiresome thread on this if you search for "fake" instead.

[frozen thicket]

my bad also for not trying other words

[thin palm]

to be fair, feinting is the more appropriate term. 🙂

[crimson elm]

I mean obviously it would be useless if it was readable - as in, I would always know if the shot is real or not - I would just not dive as a goalie when I know it's not a real shot

Okay, maybe "useless" is a strong word, but still

[orchid lodge]

your opinion is valid and appreciated

[orchid lodge]

true

[orchid lodge]

everything in this game is readable. and not useless

[crimson elm]

I know what you mean, but do you at least know what I mean? Like, if the animation always tells you if it's a real shot or not, why react to it?

[orchid lodge]

maybe u could have the same animation but no sound

[crimson elm]

There's a sound? Dunno if that would be fair to the hearing impaired, tho

[frozen thicket]

it could also make a small glowing effect too

[crimson elm]

In what way? What would glow and when?

[frozen thicket]

The ball or the players feet when they press space

[crimson elm]

Space being the actual canceling of the shot mid-windup?

[frozen thicket]

Yes

Like you have the press it before you shoot the ball it wont work if you press space right when you are shooting

[crimson elm]

Well of course you'd have to press it before you shoot. What happens then? You just stand there? For how long does the glow last?

[frozen thicket]

that's up to the devs, im the one suggesting you do know right? balancing is up to them im just throwing in some ideas you act like I am a professional developer.

[crimson elm]

You're misinterpreting my intentions, I just want to get to the details to understand how it would work in your mind and to see if it makes sense

Because if it would be an actual shot feint, you'd move the ball after the cancel, usually - but not always - in the opposite direction. And that would have to happen pretty much instantly after the cancel. So there'd be no time for any glow detection.

[wooden galleon]

I wonder if any goalkeeper mains ever would want to have a fake shot added

they literally had it in the first beta apparently and it was way too op

[frozen thicket]

glow can happen while the players foot is about to hit the ball

[frozen thicket]

they could add it with a nerf

[wooden galleon]

what woudl the nerf be?

only nerf i can think of is that the fakeshot knocks the ball in the direction of where you fake it

so that the player doesnt immediately keep possession of the ball

[frozen thicket]

ok that is still fine

[crimson elm]

I genuinely don't doubt it, intuition says so

[crimson elm]

For sure, it would have to end in a "pushball"