#Minimap removal to encourage players abilities

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wide kernel
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what's your fav way to dribble people?

earnest wave
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Shooting aim is decent

earnest wave
wide kernel
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honestly

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this might be weird

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but if your enemy really wants to steal from you

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just use the X shot above them

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and sprint

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nobody does it so it's hard to predict

earnest wave
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Learnt how to push ball up field push without sprinting

wide kernel
earnest wave
wide kernel
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your sprint should be your main dribbling tool

earnest wave
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It is

wide kernel
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I mean i can't teach you because we have different styles of play

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everyone likes something else

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but personally

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if you're here to score goals not assists

latent flax
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minimap AND stamina bar should be removed, gathering info is a skill 🤬

wide kernel
earnest wave
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Bruh

wide kernel
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guys

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please remove the sprint bar

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and make it so if you use it without it being full

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you fall over

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and can't move for 20 seconds

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knowing when it's recharged

latent flax
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finally some good changes

wide kernel
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should take more skill

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guys please make it so if you slide tackle at someone

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you break their legs

earnest wave
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This is extreme

latent flax
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that would allow a lot of skill expression

wide kernel
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dribbling should take more skill

earnest wave
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Lol

wide kernel
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also

earnest wave
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Yea you gotta move each foot when walking

wide kernel
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there's this one shot

wide kernel
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or you go blind

earnest wave
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Lol

flint relic
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I think removing it for ranked game is actually a great idea
It didn’t happen often but sometimes I really got caught off guard when someone tackled me from behind and grabbed the ball

Disabling it would encourage players to actually keep an eye on both teammates and enemies
Really like the idea 👍

wide kernel
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also uhh

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there is this one op shot

earnest wave
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Or you could just gitgud with the map and your eyes

wide kernel
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I don't really use it

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because i want to score

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cool goals

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if you just want to get a ton of goals

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just do this

latent flax
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dude...

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calling me out

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do a rainbow flick before the half lob

wide kernel
latent flax
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u create more power

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try it

wide kernel
latent flax
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when u get the half lob with ur head

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the ball gets higher

wide kernel
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buddy if i see an open goal and its not bc i dribbled the enemy

latent flax
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more powerful volley

wide kernel
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i step back

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and let the defense build back

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im a built different sigma

latent flax
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🤬

wide kernel
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😎

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then i miss the sho

latent flax
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stop being cool bro...

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it aint cool

wide kernel
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and the whole lobby

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spams good job

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and i say thanks

latent flax
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DEKKAS

wide kernel
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wtf does that one good job call even mean

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tekuz!

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"I don't speak british"

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ahh

latent flax
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remove the british accents instead of the minimap

wide kernel
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Honestly

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nerf keepers and buff dribbling

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remove rebounds infront of th egoal

wide kernel
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Sorry but

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I wanna do the shot into the goal

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not into the wall from walking 50 meters

earnest wave
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I'll experiment with the mechanics more

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and experiement with what you did and find my own way of striking

wide kernel
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just do whatever you like

earnest wave
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I think i'm close

wide kernel
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if you find your ideal playstyle

earnest wave
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Not there yet

wide kernel
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guys

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when the game is out

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we should make a team

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and create

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the worst team ever

earnest wave
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Hmm

wide kernel
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the egoist who refuses to pass and only makes cool shot

earnest wave
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I'll be midfielder until i'm good enough to strike

wide kernel
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sthe guy who only passes backwards when no one will be there

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the wanna be striker

earnest wave
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also I can be goalie if the goalie needs a break

wide kernel
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let me send

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my goated clips guys

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uhh

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so ik i have a few goalkeeping clips

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so im just looking at ones where i start with gk

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and all of them end with my goal

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😭

earnest wave
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I can goal keep pretty well

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although I suck at dealing with strikers very close to me

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otherwise I'm consistent at stopping goals and bring the ball out far

wide kernel
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btw i know i was hating

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but there's nothing wrong with passing

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i do it too

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turst guys

wide kernel
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i can pass too

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being serious

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there's nothing wrong with playmaking

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but if you want to score

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just go out of your way and do it

wide kernel
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don't stay as a midfielder until you can do it

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just strike until you get better

earnest wave
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oh thought...team first

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and work on my skill...next but ookay

latent flax
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but its def worth getting the ball higher for the shot

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as a one trick I'd know

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😎

wide kernel
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your teamplay will improve

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being able to dribble well gives you better ways to pass if you don't want to score

earnest wave
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@wide kernel Being a versatile player I would like to switch between just plan striking and playing midfield and scoring wen opportune

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But..rn I need to improve my raw striking skill for that to work out

gleaming quiver
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remove minimap

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if u cant play without minimap you re bad

latent flax
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"make players who already have a tough time have an even harder time"

gleaming quiver
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if you are having a hard time just play normal games and not ranked

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until you get good

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kinda logical ngl

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!!

latent flax
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or just make the game more accessible

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good players arent using minimap anyways so

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shouldnt matter

gleaming quiver
latent flax
# gleaming quiver what

good players will position to where they dont need to look at minimap to see everyone, so minimap is there to help the more casual players who arent playing optimally. ie making it more accessible

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it's not some cheat code its QoL for new players

gleaming quiver
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i guess new players will play normal games until they feel comfortable in the pitch

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and then move to ranked

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i agree good players dont even use minimap

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but still

latent flax
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u understand u need casual players to play comp

gleaming quiver
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you can take advantage of it

latent flax
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I'm just sayin

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its QoL, doesnt effect skill ceiling

gleaming quiver
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it does affect

latent flax
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u lose games cuz ur opponents know where u are?

gleaming quiver
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you have to be positioning urself and properly moving the camera fast to get information

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of the pitch

latent flax
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yap yap

gleaming quiver
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thats part of the skill of the game

latent flax
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that's not hard

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minimap doesnt change that

gleaming quiver
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if its not hard then why a new player would need a map

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you are contradicting yourself

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xD

latent flax
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QoL

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??

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it can be easy and also be for QoL

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have u ridden a bike

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I assume u used training wheels to start

gleaming quiver
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its not that deep

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it really not that deep

pastel wharf
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no one even looks at the mini map

sick burrow
rain siren
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Yea, I don't even rely a lot on the minimap. So what, you are going to take away the ability to edit SFX volume because I use sounds more than just camera on Rematch? PepeLaf

main yarrow
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all who commented against are gay

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final statement

boreal berry
solar yoke
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agreed

solar yoke
wide kernel
solar yoke
wide kernel
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but that shit does NOT sound like a literal gunshot

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in rematch im pretty sure one of the kicking animations has the sfx of a gun

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this ain't blue lock 2 gun volley bro

mint stratus
solar yoke
wide kernel
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no one really uses it when they're locked in because it's a distraction

solar yoke
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Its not needed, its simply depends on which direction the game wants to go in.

wide kernel
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well obviously not realism

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otherwise we wouldn't have AR systems

solar yoke
wide kernel
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or bicycle kicks every other shot

wide kernel
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the only reason i see to use it when you're decent

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is to know exactly where the ball is landing

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without looking back

solar yoke
wide kernel
solar yoke
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It does awareness wise

wide kernel
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The pitch is too small to make it truly make a difference

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if they add a 11v11 i could see the point of removing the minimap

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but rn

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nah?

solar yoke
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my claim is for it to just be taken out of the 5v5 ranked

sick burrow
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why

wide kernel
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I mean I could see ranked

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I don't use the minimap for the most part anyway

sick burrow
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and dont use ther word skill ceiling

solar yoke
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imma use whatever word i want to use lol

sick burrow
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well you arent using it correctly

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thats why i would like to hear you use otyher words

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maybe to help you explain it better

wide kernel
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I mean it is true

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it doesn't lower the skill ceiling

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because the minimap isn't useful to good people

sick burrow
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i mean it is

wide kernel
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Not calling myself a great player but I only realized the minimap even is there

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after like 15 games

sick burrow
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its usedyl to everyone

wide kernel
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too locked in

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🙏

solar yoke
sick burrow
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but if its useful to eveeryone

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its not lowering a skill ceiling

solar yoke
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now worse players dont use it the same as higher ranked players

sick burrow
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ok so

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whats the problem then

wide kernel
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it would

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because you don't have to use your awarness

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But if you have like

sick burrow
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ok but its not

wide kernel
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7/10 positioning

sick burrow
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so it doesnt

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im not arguing hyptethicals

wide kernel
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you don't need the minimap

main yarrow
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I think Im no longer against minimap, yes is an advantage for defense positioning, but I realize that is also an advantage for dribbling, since you can see if someone is reaching you from behind, so i think is good

sick burrow
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Good boy

gloomy grove
severe granite
earnest wave
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I feel like minimap will be used soon after the game cones out by high level players to scan without moving the camera

rain siren
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@earnest wave It's not consistent as just looking at people's behaviour though

errant dew
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it's more than enough the marker will show patterns too

earnest wave
shell ice
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very true, should only have mini map in normal mode, but ranked mode should not have mini map to make the match more realistic and difficult (it will make the game more interesting) !!!

rain siren
# earnest wave That requires scanning those behind you as well though

nothing much you can do I feel except just getting used to it. I really want better cam controls. Or not, the minimap is better than nothing. You can't possibly have an R1 modifier in your control scheme and not have more robust camera controls. If you are going by track record, Sloclap does not have good track record with cameras in their 2 games to begin with

earnest wave
rain siren
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they could do last known camera angle or goal cam

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or even lock onto player objects

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player object lock might be too strong as it may result in more consistent half court goals

jaunty storm
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Huh, what you're actually suggesting here is to make gathering information significantly HARDER than real life.
It's MUCH EASIER and quicker in real life to turn your head than it is to turn your camera with a joystick.

If you want to disable something in higher ranks, it should be the ability to bounce the ball off walls around the goal.
Which honestly feels far too cheap for me to use voluntarily.

molten rampart
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Main difference between irl and rematch (or basically any other game) is fov.

Ppl talking about spatial awareness and perception forgot to mention that we see on a 200° fov, against the screen + 90-110° fov in-game..

This specifically makes it much harder to scan, and like others have said kb/m would then be completely OP when compared with controller.

rain siren
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people kind of forget that 55" gaming is a thing

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so they will have more information then an average gamer

earnest wave
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That's another argument against removing minimap

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Minimap allows for different hardware to be equalized in sight

mint stratus
sick burrow
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No he’s saying it does level the olaying filed

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He says minimap allows

mint stratus
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Well that doesn't make sense to me because the point of minimap is to bring the skill gap closer but that doesn't necessarily equate to levelling the playing field. Because high skill players suffer due to removal of a skill gap by having it as a thing. Surely Levelling the playing field would be removing it more so because without it you have to rely on the inherent skill of your own view and view speed. Doesn't matter how big your monitor is sometimes you can't look away from the ball and need to focus on looking at where your team is. So if anything would make it more fair for us all.

sick burrow
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I mean it’s already fair

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It doesn’t remove a skill gap

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Everyone has the minimap

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Lower level don’t use it as effectively or in the same way

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High level uses it well

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Everyone has the minimap ots just information

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The skill comes from use of the information

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Which is adding so skill

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Also there is no inherent skill in vision in view speed

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It’s just a setting

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So having players be forced to higher their sens just to be able to see faster is limiting players

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People have their preferences and it should be taken away or deterred

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At least not when it comes to something as basic as sensitivity

earnest wave
last plover
errant dew
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LOL did you make that?

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i need more memes like this hahaha

last plover
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i have 3 others

karmic mesa
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I didn't read the whole thread, but I'll just throw in that if the minimap exists, allow the user to adjust where it is in the HUD. I play Ultrawide and having it be right justified instead of off center inside a 16:9 center box makes it very annoying to glance at.