The game is completely different now. (And boring)

[main elm]

you kinda late but thanks

[sleek glacier]

i was playing sorry mate

[main elm]

I tried playing but my goalie aint goaling

[knotty wind]

Unreal's multiplayer support is not that bad

[main elm]

carrot you should rewrite your chart

[knotty wind]

But I cannot talk about that, I know very little

[versed hornet]

well

[main elm]

ive had 3 memory leaks in past 2 days

all of them pointing to 0x00000000080

[versed hornet]

why do we have a man united player?

i would prefer to equip a mercurial

like

can we trade him for a nike's boot?

[raw wraith]

well, the discussion is still not closed, that was more like a preview than a closed analysis

[main elm]

technically not memory leak but bad addressing or sum

maybe even memory leak since it crashed every time i started a game

[brittle hemlock]

They are selling a skin of a player from the club that's in 17th position in prem league. That's kinda meme

[main elm]

so something allocated weird stuff on that adress

[main elm]

im recruited as a security guard to watch prem league tomorrow

[knotty wind]

mismatched type of skill issue variable

[versed hornet]

i would prefer to buy actual team's jersey

[main elm]

you should get back to your work

[versed hornet]

specially the brazillians

play with vasco's jersey

[brittle hemlock]

You deserve in game skin too

[main elm]

totally

[versed hornet]

btw kobe mainu

hes not bad

[main elm]

also amazing that they went with the one soccer player that got arested for multiple stuff

[brittle hemlock]

They should actually get star players

Ter Stegen is fine coz he is a goalie

[main elm]

wait till they add anime skins like isagi

its gold mine here

[brittle hemlock]

If they add barou i might even get it since he fits my playstyle

[main elm]

aka. king

[brittle hemlock]

Yeah

[main elm]

aka. i lose games

aka. i scream alot

[brittle hemlock]

I win if my servants don't get in the way too much

[main elm]

aka. i shoot half field and miss

i love when my temamates just shoot from half a field for no reason

[brittle hemlock]

Actually my half field shots are really good!

[main elm]

the only half field shot i respect is the down curve pixel perfect above goalie

[brittle hemlock]

That's the only one that works so yeah

[versed hornet]

but would prefer neymar's boots than kobe mainu

[pure torrent]

They call it pass, mate

[main elm]

pass

to noone

into a goalie

[frigid ether]

Aka 'backboard pass'! 😉

[tired compass]

bro is it me or is the ranked system chopped rn?

Im high plat getting low gold teammates

[brittle hemlock]

Ranked never had skill based matchmaking

So it doesn't make sense that queue is so long

[tired compass]

huh? that defeats the whole purpose of ranked

[brittle hemlock]

Yeah

[hollow skiff]

It’s also a beta

Where they are going to reset a 3 day rank ladder obviously

I think they are trying to get more feedback on Yk

[tired compass]

So? The ranked system shouldnt be impacted

[hollow skiff]

Gameplay

I mean it could be like most Vegas

[tired compass]

i mean yeah but then lock ranked

[hollow skiff]

And just not have one then

[tired compass]

exactly

[hollow skiff]

Also wdym no skill based matchmaking

In the announcement they just made they acknowledged that there are players wjth high mmr

So there is mmr

[sleek glacier]

in Ranked

[hollow skiff]

Wel that’s what the person was talking about ranked

[versed hornet]

@sleek glacier did you see a bug

that when you touch the ball

it vanishes

and when you chop it

[main elm]

darky wanna play?

[versed hornet]

it appears again

[celest tundra]

Guess i gotta post it again

[haughty lintel]

100pct this. just got back from last beta and beyond getting used to the new control everything feels off. I was so excited the two last beta but for this one im just feeling disconnected from the game

[hollow skiff]

We need copypasta to go with it

Like the drivbling fanatic needs a hard read where’s it’s like terirbke blue lock references

And then the anti drivbling has a like pretentious ass one

Like caricatures

[celest tundra]

Good point

[hollow skiff]

Like

[celest tundra]

Then i can put the soyjak emote at the top

[hollow skiff]

UGH this game is so not EGO 😡! I just want to be a EGOISTA XDD and show them I too can dribble like my king BACHIRAAAA!

[sleek glacier]

nope it happened to me that the ball gets stuck or that I see desynced animations

[hollow skiff]

Like that

[main elm]

i swear i will split at you irl

[main elm]

asnwer me

[celest tundra]

Tbh I think a good way to improve the game would be to ban every blue lock name

[sleek glacier]

[sleek glacier]

what

[hollow skiff]

And every Bachira custom player

[celest tundra]

Well I need names for every quadrant to start with

[hollow skiff]

Uhh

Ego cuck

Passing soy boy

The frugal baby

And then desperate munch

Or something

[celest tundra]

Idk even where I sit on that quadrant lmao

[main elm]

darky !!!!!

how could you

[sleek glacier]

what i diiid

broo

[main elm]

i asked for playing

[sleek glacier]

you want to play?

are you eu?

[main elm]

yea

[sleek glacier]

ok im with other 3 guys

[main elm]

sexy party

[sleek glacier]

ofc

[main elm]

invite me

on stema

[sleek glacier]

let me end this

[main elm]

you breaking up with me?!

[sleek glacier]

no honey

ofc not

[main elm]

vac ban

cheater

[sleek glacier]

i was 16 bro

:/

[main elm]

CHEATER

[sleek glacier]

kiss me you fool

[main elm]

so we both 21

so romantic

[knotty wind]

I imagine CSGO

[main elm]

GET BACK TO JOB

[knotty wind]

Bro it’s over 6PM let me chill now

[sleek glacier]

[main elm]

42 ms yet whenever i slide into a ball i dont touch it

Dont you dare

shush

[knotty wind]

Skill issue and no team play I see

[main elm]

we won

[sleek glacier]

dw this game was just lagging

[knotty wind]

Not thanks of you ofc

[sleek glacier]

you liked my corner shot?

[main elm]

it was

weird

egoist

!

[sleek glacier]

IT WAS COOL

[knotty wind]

How you scored without team play? That’s literally against meta

[fiery stream]

Is there really just two communities between people who dribble and people who pass the ball?

[main elm]

great clear from me

[knotty wind]

No, that’s how the community that “pass” categorize like that, us on the team “old beta” are about balance

[fiery stream]

Individuality and teamplay both have a purpose in a game, honestly with my experience playing the game the sluggishness of dribbling is fine. The only issue to me is not being able to set your own binds, the game has a bunch of systems in place that don't fluidly fit together and it's definetly up to the player to piece everything together ontop of unnatural hand placements

unless u can change binds and I couldnt find that in settings

[fiery stream]

Finding a good inbetween is definetly what's needed but this beta seems to be making people made, I don't think I saw any comments about frusturation last beta

Last beta was fun though

As long as the devs continue to change and update the games core systems until they find a balance, as far as I'm concerned they don't seem lazy though so I have hopes for the release

[main elm]

aint noone reading that

[fiery stream]

feedback is feedback but

long story short for people who cant read at a moderate speed

I hope the game undergoes more changes before release, this beta-test was underwhelming compared to the last

[knotty wind]

Don’t you dare saying that, team “pass only” will start flaming you now for such take

Btw I’m totally with you

[brittle roost]

they call him Darky because of his dark past

[sleek glacier]

they call me Josh cause i Scrosh

unexpected right?

[brittle hemlock]

They deleted us east and us west server. RIP to majority of us playerbase

[knotty wind]

EU is superior (let’s start another flame why not)

[brittle hemlock]

I'm euro living in us so whatever argument there is i can just pick a winning side

[brittle roost]

speaking of unexpected

[brittle roost]

expected

[knotty wind]

Depends, what hour do you think it’s okay to drink a cappuccino?

[brittle hemlock]

As soon as you wake up

[brittle roost]

9:45PM Tues - Sunday

[knotty wind]

Then you have the right of speech

[knotty wind]

Too precise, you don’t have the right of speech

[brittle roost]

sorry let me dial it back

9:00 - 10ish, sometimes on Tuesdays, mostly on the other days

[knotty wind]

I can tolerate this reply

[main elm]

@sleek glacier

0% packet loss btw

50 ping btw

[thin sleet]

Worst thing is people streaming having the same problem and u just need to read their chats that the impression they have of the game is already bad

[raw wraith]

https://streamable.com/cx3tyw

alright roast me. tried the walk off, did the walk of shame instead

[hollow skiff]

Wait funny ass clip

[main elm]

skill issue ngl

[raw wraith]

100%

[main elm]

karma 100%

[raw wraith]

110%

next time that ball is getting obliterated into the back of the net lol

[sleek glacier]

crazy

[dreamy tide]

I won't lie I can still dribble through people but rainbow flick feels useless as all hell.

[thin sleet]

That and because people used so much last beta, now almost everyone can counter it like i can say for sure people only spam that move on the field, had alot of teammates today that only did the rainbow and got destroyed

[dreamy tide]

I use the rainbow as a side mix up flick if I have spacing which works but once I do it once I cant cross them up with it again

[versed hornet]

When ball is under Control it gets stuck in a specifical point

And vanishes on my feets

[raw wraith]

cant rely on rainbow alone anymore thats for sure, people will adapt fast tho, it still seems useful in scenarios

ppl already defending way better now and its not even released yet, still a lot of potential in the game yet

[main elm]

not only people play better but game lags so hard its hard to win rankeds

[silent remnant]

game feels fine. The keybinds are the only thing throwing me off. I wish I could change it. As for rainbow flicking, idek how to do those anymore and i'm still crossing everyone up.

[rigid blade]

Could i ask what the old dribbling was like? Im on ps5 so i could only play this beta

[vague pasture]

You have more options of keybinds

[silent remnant]

the options are w/ mouse buttons or new default.

im tryna get the binds from last playtest

[sleek glacier]

faster funnier

worth

[hollow skiff]

It’s basically the same

Just imagine more rainbow flick spam

And then players who don’t know how to defend as Wel as they do now

[sleek glacier]

the game is 300 time slower bro

what are you about

last beta scores were 5-4 / 7-3

now it's 2-0 / 2-1

[brittle roost]

this. think my highest scoring game has been like 4 - 2 this go-around

[hollow skiff]

Mine are like

4-0 or like 5-2

Occasionally there’s a pretty even 3-2

[hollow skiff]

Me when I lie

[brittle roost]

wish there was match history. my last match was a 1-0, match before that was a 2-1

all in Plat

[sleek glacier]

I respect your thoughts.

but I won't waste another letter with you.

ever again.

[hollow skiff]

Oh that’s cool

So your a child then

When someone disagrees with you you just ignore them

W tantrum mentality

[sleek glacier]

It's the way you do it, you sound like a conceited child. and you've been acting like this to everyone for 2 days. you've simply bored me.

[hollow skiff]

Yk what

That’s not even accurate

I have like actually tried to discuss changes the only time I don’t budge is when it comes the tl reasoning behinds something or the inconsistency

Or if just isn’t an actual like debatable statement

Like something anecdotal

Or just a opinion that they try to treat as fact

I’m not trying to convince someone I’m rihht o just want an actual point or actual feed bac not just

Oh this kinda feels different but j dknt really have any proof

[spiral basin]

Guys i'm 1 game away from Master 3

[hollow skiff]

Placebo effect is not a gameplay mechanic

[spiral basin]

It is bro what are you on about

[hollow skiff]

Huh

Imagine being a game dev and people goinf yeah your game feels kinda off

Yk how fucken worthless that is compared to

Hey I think it might feel a bit sluggish becasue there’s a bit of input delay or the animation startup is slower

Or maybe the ball travels slower

Not some yeah this feel slow not gonna elaborate tho

Like there are actual people being like

We think the delay between rainbows has increased

Not just going

Dude it’s so slow fix it somehow

[brittle roost]

lewi i think the point is you're insufferable and you give strong terminally-online-debate-participant vibes

[hollow skiff]

Valid honestly

I mean I low-key don’t be debating

Uh oh he’s typing

I’m running

[raw wraith]

ye thats right

[hollow skiff]

Sorry sir

Won’t happen again

[raw wraith]

ill spare you the reply then 🫡

going to sleep gn 🫡

[hollow skiff]

Good boy

[sleek glacier]

They should call it: "Nomatch" ngl

[spiral basin]

Sheeshhh lessgoo

[versed hornet]

Try it without friends

[spiral basin]

I did the entire plat part solo

It's doable

Just don't rainbow flick and you are good to go

[versed hornet]

Rainbow flick needs a buff

I cant figure out any situation

[versed hornet]

That rainbow still useful

[magic swift]

surprise

[brittle hemlock]

The guy is big troll

[sleek glacier]

My final statement:

Overall, the game isn’t bad, but my personal excitement has dropped from what felt like a 110/100 to just over an 80/100. The gameplay loop feels pretty boring to me right now and could get tiring quickly. Before, there was a smooth flow between dribbling, passing, and crazy shots — now it feels like a constant chasing from right to left with very little creativity. I’m not sure if it’s because of the reduced stamina, the removal of the dribbling stance shield, or just the slower pace of the game, but it definitely feels less dynamic.

You can still try special passes or long shots, and dribble to create space on your own, but it feels like something’s missing. The balance between the three core aspects of football—dribbling, passing, and shooting—just isn’t the same. In the old version, that triangle of options was well balanced. Now, it feels like it’s missing one side, leaving only two, which makes the overall experience less varied.

Maybe it’s just my impression, and at the end of the day, all feedback is subjective. But for me, this beta shows a game that—while still fun—has lost a big part of its original soul and needs quick fixes to get back to the “masterpiece” level it once was.

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[hollow skiff]

im hoenstly fine withj anyone buty yopu because your genuinely stupid

like you showed a wonderful clip of you handing the ball to someone and then cried

[brittle roost]

jesus christ it truly never ends with you

[brittle roost]

also re-reading this message and seeing you refer to someone else as "genuinely stupid" is rich

[hollow skiff]

how

i wonder what i did to you personally

like i get it nobody wants to be wrong

its a thread for debates

when it comes to the opinions on personal fun

like im not gonna shit on someone for not enjoying someting

[raw wraith]

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My final statement:

Overall, the game isn’t bad—my initial hype of 200/100 has settled to somewhere just over an 80/100. The gameplay loop feels a lot slower to me right now but I do see glimpses of hope mid-game which brings me hope that as the game and players improve more creativity can be found again. Previously, there was this fluid rhythm between dribbling, passing, and pulling off wild shots. Now, it often feels like I’m chasing the play from side to side, with fewer sparks of creativity. Whether it’s due to reduced stamina, the removal of the dribble shield stance, or just the slower tempo, the game feels less dynamic than it used to.

That said, as someone who naturally leans toward a more tactical, slower-paced style, I’m starting to see some potential in the new system. It rewards more deliberate decision-making and positioning, and there’s still room to make plays with special passes, long shots, or well-timed dribbles. But I can’t help but feel that the balance between dribbling, passing, and shooting—the triangle that made the previous version so engaging—has tilted. It feels like one corner is not balanced properly, reducing the variety that made every moment feel alive.

Maybe it's just a shift I’m still adjusting to. Feedback will always be subjective, after all. For me, the beta shows a game that’s evolving in a more methodical direction, and while I can grow into that as a slower tactical player, I do feel bad for the mechanical wizards who thrived on fluid, creative expression. Hopefully, some tuning can bring back a bit of that magic and restore the masterpiece feeling it once had.

My "Going to purchase?" rating -
Start of this beta: Look how they massacred my boy 😢
Current: Alright I'm listening, let them cook 🤔

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[magic swift]

I agree, im starting to like having my other abilities of the game challenged and strengthened its fufilling, still miss the old beta but i dont mind the new version

[raw wraith]

im interested still, but i really pray they dont keep forcing players to change playstyles. I think the game desperately needs room to breathe and let the players work things out, let the bugs and exploits slowly shuffle out then start thinking about "Are we (devs/players) happy with the current loop" again.

[strong carbon]

have u talk about the new trajectory of the ball when you shoot?

[raw wraith]

ye its been discussed. I don't mind it either way tbh. Still a lot you can do with the curves we have.

[rigid blade]

what was faster abt it

did controls change or smt

[strong carbon]

THEY REMADE THE OLD TRAJECTORY£

[tired compass]

gg

not ext3nding the beta

[lime sigil]

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this thread was a waste of life

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This thread put across the point that we want the old movement back pretty please bring it back

[icy mica]

New movement is significantly better

[brittle hemlock]

1 tackle and 2 dribbling moves and you are too tired to run. So much fun

[pliant night]

agree, passing based now instead of dribbling. way more teamwork

[icy mica]

yeah, how it should be lmao

peeps just mad they can't rainbow flick through six tackles now and they have to actually time it

[brittle hemlock]

People just mad they can't play actual futsal and instead they are forced to play 11v11 style football during the most boring barcelona tiki taka era.

It's like playing rocket league without the speed boost

Passing requires no skill at all

[lone wyvern]

Arcade football game = fun
Tactical football game = boring

[raw wraith]

Something inbetween = 🔥

[lone wyvern]

« A game for everyone is a game for no one »

[sleek glacier]

but it's weird. the previous beta was completely arcade football without a doubt. what went through their head to COMPLETELY change direction.

[raw wraith]

« Potatos are round, I like circles »

[sleek glacier]

i like carrot

[sleek glacier]

you should do another ranking now that the beta is over but i shouldn't be ranked put me somewhere watching you guys

even if this thread is a pure civil war

[brittle hemlock]

I'm so glad to be on the right side

[broken musk]

Tbh it just means that any changes regarding speed and animations were not intended, if anything it means that something might have been broken and that we are talking about a bug and not voluntary changes

[lone wyvern]

The game is clearly a arcade vision of football. If you want to play à tactical game you have fifa, efootbal, ufl and more.. the only football arcade game on the market right now is Mario striker on switch lol..

[raw wraith]

might do another one when/if the devs make some sort of statement about their plans/reasoning.

[fading moat]

i think the game is fine but need to just make it more fast paced to allow running more around and being more proactive also dribble can be a little bit faster (+5-8% faster), by fast paced i mean adjust fov to feel the game is faster while also make people run a little bit faster
i believe with this beta that the game is way more team based and that dribble is just a tool to keep the ball a littlemore if well played

[tight radish]

I think what you're saying is fair, the speed changes would essentially just be reverting to the last beta which I would also prefer. The argument that the game wasn't team based is an issue with skill level and that we have limited time to play. Its the same as Any of the 2k NBA games. There are always going to be people that don't want to play as a team. But they will start to get stomped by any player/team with solid defense which most people will get over time. I feel like its a rash move to slow the whole game down when there hasn't been enough time spent to truly see trends. slowing down rainbow flick start up was fair though ;P

[brittle hemlock]

I'm ok with having 1 person in front to receive passes if they don't want to play as a team. It's better than having no one good to pass to

[fading moat]

the dribble nerf is fair but a small buff is useful to let dribble player be happy, i'm a tackle player in this beta after my last match i checked my stat i had 0 dribble to let you know how i feeled about it, for me it was useless but i only see people doing dribble and there were other way easier than dribble

[brittle hemlock]

Short stunlock on tackle should also be a thing so you get punished for dumb tackle

[fading moat]

tackle i think it's fine

the slide one should be more punished if failed

[brittle hemlock]

Slide already stunlocks you

[fading moat]

but the base tackle without running is good like that, you can use it in creative way

[tight radish]

I agree with this. I think where was a bug where some people wouldnt get stunned when tackled.

[fading moat]

for example if i take the ball in my feet and i know i will be tackle when i grab it i just tackle it in the direction i want to go and it work very well

dribble need to be a little bit faster to make more people happy and allow more creative way efficient

[sleek glacier]

yep

[clever kiln]

Slowing down the flick makes defending it a bit more reliable too. The speed of it didn't do wonders for the collision system.

It still works in the right situation, it's just easier to punish players who press it more than the pass button.

Doesn't help that 95% of people I've seen in matches don't understand you can use LT + Pass to move the ball around your feet. The few that I've seen use it also use it constantly to do little spins in every situation and immediately lose the ball lol

[inner bone]

Sounds like a skill diff, dribbling is extremely useful, but even more useful than that is passing. I think they’re hit a great balance, you can dribble in a pinch or even be greedy and be effective, but the fact passing is the huge meta in comparison is a great thing as it’s a team focused game. The game isn’t made for you to be Ronaldo.

[fading moat]

yeah but doing more than 1 dribble seems like a throw against someone good

making them a little bit faster can allow to do more

[inner bone]

Also true. Think it’s just about them finding a good balance. I think im quite good at most things on the game, but the passing and team play is what excites me the most.

[fading moat]

same for me, probably why i don't dribble because they don't excite me at all but making them a little bit better to reward a bit more mechanical player that love dribble would not break the balance

[sleek glacier]

The balance between the three core aspects of football—dribbling, passing, and shooting—just isn’t the same.

[main elm]

hi

[thick oasis]

how often do people actually rainbow flick over someone in professional football?

[main elm]

rematch is more like futsal ngl

people in futsal do crazy stuff

[stray mantle]

Nah being able to ball hog and dribble constantly around people gets rid of the team part of the game. Now it forces you to actually include your teammates and not just watch one person ball hog the whole time. Roller Champions died because of this reason

[analog perch]

yeah maybe if people passed more in the previous beta we wouldnt have this issue.

also you can still ball hog

its just harder. as it should be.

[brittle hemlock]

This is not true at all because in previous beta people were passing and playing as a team as much as in this beta

[tight radish]

I feel like people are missing the fact that most people are being "ball hogs" because its a limited beta so they want to play the "fun" part of the game and feel cool while doing cool stuff. So of course all of that is going to be more concentrated. In the long term this wont be the case because more skilled players will shut them down, but slowing the game down reduces skill expression and just making the game pass 10 times till the goalie jumps. then shoot. Which is boring. This isnt Fifa.

[clever kiln]

Baiting the keeper to make a mistake is kind of the point to be fair

It'd help if people mixed up the sides they shot at more, or realised that passing low into the net works too, especially with changing up the speed

Ball hogs will always exist. They're also always terrible at the game, and I think changing the speed of the flick did most of the work to make punishing them easier without the dribble changes.

Sucks when they're on your team, but I've gotten into the habit of basically sitting just behind them to catch the ball when it's inevitably tackled out from them

If the keeper pushes toward you they open it up to you passing it off, and if they don't then they make it harder to cover the net. That's really fine, people just aren't great at actually making shots yet imo.

[analog perch]

yeah not enough people pass into the goal.

or do low shots

[tight radish]

100% agree with most of what you said, my issue isnt with the goalie interaction or scoring. Its the fact that the formula to get to the point has been bottle necked essentially. Where before you could mix the other team and make spicy plays either you teammates. Now youre given much less initiative as a player and at time just have to pass the ball the moment you get it which reduces the option, and options are what makes games fun. I personally want to be able to choose when to sauce the other team and when to give a nasty pass. Not just the latter.

[sinful heron]

A sport isnt a casual setting though

Like one guy stated, Ive played every beta and the game feels normal, They slowed down the pace by miniscule amount by making slides slower and more punishing but it was needed, The game rewards you for getting the techniques down, If you cant do it then its gonna suck when you get shut down every time.

[clever kiln]

Might help if they put in some more advanced tutorials for getting around attackers in general

[hollow skiff]

Well slide is still unbalanced

It’s a get out of jail free card

I would say it just needs a ramp up requirement

Just make it so you can’t slide tackle from a dead stop sprint

[hollow skiff]

A sport game is a more casual setting than a sport though

A big aspect of a sport game is the entry barrier is infinitely lower

As you don’t have a ton of physical attributes to worry about

You can’t be too short or too weak or too uncoordinated to play

And the matches are a lot shorter too which can add some pressure

But it also just adds to the play a quick game with friends or alone aspect

But I do agree that slowing the pace down makes it a lot more rewarding when you do pull of techniques

[sleek glacier]

btw the game is clearly arcade tho.

[hollow skiff]

How does that impact what we said

[glad flare]

slowing pace is debatable cuz football inherently isn’t that slow but it for sure shouldn’t be clunky

that would be hell

[brittle hemlock]

Slower the pace = less skill required. This is clear

[main elm]

hi darky

[hushed coral]

I'll be honest, people complain about slide. . and though it can be annoying at times. You can definitely still dribble around it unless you've got like 2-3 on you

[glad flare]

that’s why i am not fond of lowering minimum skill needed

[sleek glacier]

hi

[thick oasis]

not entirely true though, depends what is slower. If everything is slower, then you're punished more for mistakes right? Slower just means less is happening, that makes the fewer actions more important individually.

[unkempt cipher]

I actually like the current pace of the game. And honestly, the more time people spend playing, the more noticeable the gap becomes between “I just mashed buttons and it worked” and “I actually know how to play.”

For me, the core problem isn't the speed — it's the lag, hitbox glitches, how the new passing system was implemented, and toxic players who refuse to pass, try to dribble everyone, lose the ball, and cost the whole team the match.
Maybe for solo players, it does get frustrating to rely on four random teammates who don’t communicate or want to play as a team — but that’s a different issue entirely.

[sleek glacier]

I understand why some people get frustrated with players who just go for skill after skill, playing solo and losing the ball. It makes sense—it can be annoying.

But the thing is, those players didn’t even get the chance to realize that that’s not how the game is meant to be played. Removing the ability to dribble properly just punishes everyone, including those who did figure it out—who understood that you need to pass, that you need teamwork, that it’s about having fun together.

Teamplay is 100% important. But we also need those little moments of individual brilliance. Because let’s be real—some people do want to be better than the others. And that’s the beauty of a competitive game, right?

[unkempt cipher]

Absolutely — and those moments of individual brilliance are still very possible. Even at Platinum 1, which isn’t exactly low elo but not the highest either, dribbling is still fun and rewarding when done right. The key difference is that it’s no longer about spamming moves like “hat trick” and hoping it works — it’s about timing, awareness, and execution.

And honestly, that’s to be expected. Early in the beta, when everyone was new, it was easy to just run through people. But now that players have more experience, the skill level has gone up. Naturally, the game gets tougher — and we, as players, have to level up too.

[icy mica]

Absolutely real

[brittle hemlock]

Game is new and no one knows anything. I think after people play for at least 2-3 weeks we will be seeing broken moves and strategies and will know what's good and what sucks

Even 50 hours od playtime is like nothing for this kind of game

[weak pewter]

what you described is present in the game already. little moments of individual brilliance. i think you want ankara messi to be possible tho and thats just bad for the game

[celest tundra]

I agree with a lot what you’ve said but that’s not really what darky or the others say they want

They’ve made several good points like I) hype individual plays build interest around the game

[knotty wind]

Let’s just hope on release everyone will have fun (or kinda) and build a strong community to make the game last as long as possible.

Any discussion on this discord is only about that at the end ❤️

[main elm]

hi darky

[main elm]

yes but no

ATM game has little to no mechs

at least in my opinion

Unless something groundbreaking like flip reset in rocket league happens

it will be quite dull gameplay

[sleek glacier]

thanks. after 5000+ messages I got bored of always writing the same things.

[sleek glacier]

hi cutie

What great news today, enjoy this last day of beta. lets go.

[main elm]

What awful news for working people

[sleek glacier]

real

[sleek glacier]

it is

fun because is new, but idk if I can take 3 weeks of this

[frigid ether]

So much fun.
"Dribbling doesn't work".
Ranked game, I took the ball away from ball hogger, pass it to friend who tap it twice to pass a single defender and score tie breaking goal 🙂

lol

I finally feel I can be the defensive midfielder making these dribblers foolish and punishing with proper counter

I never want to go back to invulnerable dribble from last beta

[main elm]

after 3 hrs of rankeds with darky we barely had any bugless games and even without bugs it's really just pass to attack and bait gk. Against like diamodns

even if dribbling works game is kinda empty

[frigid ether]

well thats football after all

you pass, you dribble, you shoot

but yes, some additional passes, shots, or tricks would be nice to have if theyll be properly balanced

and i'm still pissed that striker animation has so much preference traetmant on backboard shots.

[sleek glacier]

exactly

dribbling was funnier last beta, now it's boring. working or not thats not the point. in a game you want to have fun.

[frigid ether]

I respect Your opinion.
However, the fact that for You making easy driblles with little skill required is more fun, than more challenging and tighter battles doesn't mean thats more fun for all

All the best moments I had this beta, was during this 1:1 games on overtime, testing each side who will make error first

and usually that was an error made on some crucial, well timed dribble

therefore it was even more satisfying to pull that off

[sleek glacier]

no way

you're not getting my point

at all

[tight radish]

I feel like a lot of people suffered last beta just not being able to keep up with the pace. Cuz I never had any of the issues of "losing to easy dribbling" it's call have better defense.

[sleek glacier]

a lot of players are saying the game is slower

it's not my opinion

slower = boring

[frigid ether]

If the game was giving invulnerable frames on dribble, there is nothing You can do on defense

So really glad they are no longer invincible during it

[frigid ether]

Well. You have to manage stamina more now, and have to put more effort in dribbling.

More effort required = more skill gaps = more interesting

and I can understand people frustration, You cannot easily pass equalli skilled defender

welp... gitgud than 🙂
Or accept the fact, that defenders can be skilled too

and dont cry to get invincible frames on dribble again 😄

[main elm]

Dude it's not about dribbling

It's the fact that there is nothing more than dribbling tbh

In rocket league you have like 15 different mechs

In here we have

Hold Ctrl for dribble stance

Rainbow that doesn't even work

[frigid ether]

So You think if we dumb down (or even remove) stamina will make game more fun? for causals maybe

[main elm]

And pass

All I'm saying game feels like 0.1V

there isn't much galactic football involved rn

also it's glitchy and laggy

[frigid ether]

oh, so You wanted some anime crap show?

[main elm]

which doesn't help the cause

[frigid ether]

ok, I undersant now

we both expected something completely different then

[main elm]

Rocket league doesn't have anime to have skillfull gameplay

There just isn't much to master here

Freeplay is useless

cause what are you practicing even

In rocket league you practice different shot situations

In here you have Hold forward , click left

I like that you can curve

There isn't no power indicator

[sleek glacier]

!!!!!!!!

[main elm]

Ball trails when shooting while holding curve would be cool

Idk how broken would that be

but that would help with smoother passes etc

Like you could spin the ball exacly how you want

Or hit some sick goals

Pixel Perfect

right now it's all about backboard double tap

or ass keeper missing easy saves

Also I don't think sloclap has any ideas how to improve the gameplay rn

Imo they just trying to balance the speed while creating payed content for cash

I find it kinda offensive that first thing they adding is skin that you have to pay for

In a GAME THAT ISN'T FREE

Might be just me nagging

[clever kiln]

In their defense, if it's licensed content (e.g player likeness, kit designs etc), then they have to cover that through MTX. Doubly so for football it makes the music industry look reasonable. No excuse for original content to be paid other than deciding they want more than the asking price though, that doesn't have a reason.

[sleek glacier]

fr

[keen niche]

meanwhile rematch beta tmr:

[main elm]

ngl this beta made me reconsider refunding the game

[sleek glacier]

you want to

or you dont want to

the problem is that you can't justify removing something because: "it causes desync" and then the beta is pure desync. everything is desynced. Defense, goalkeeping, shooting, dribbling. like whats the point of playing if i see that i steal the ball and then the ball comes back to the attacker's feet?

[main elm]

40$ game

Net graph is literally random number generator

[sleek glacier]

@near spire

yeah its crazy actually

I see that I save the ball and then a second later they score a goal, I don't know how. It's really stupid.

[near spire]

LMAO. Crazy game.

[sleek glacier]

fr

[versed hornet]

overall i hate how the random team NEVER PASSES THE BALL

10 SECS LEFT

I WAS ALONE WITH THE GK

I DRIBBLED 1 GUY

CHIPPED THE BALL AND SCORED

1 MINUTE LATER I WAS ALONE AGAIN BUT MY TEAMMATE HOGGED THE BALL AND IGNORED ME

HE LOST THE BALL AND THEN THEY SCORED

[hollow skiff]

Unfortunate

[versed hornet]

all my teams cant get more than 30 passes

in 1 match

thats crazy

[hollow skiff]

You were the lowest in everything tho

[versed hornet]

1 goal

1 assist

i touched the ball 6 times

1 i lost

1 scored

4 i passed

[hollow skiff]

Yea but your teammates had better stats besides your one goal

Especially in interceptions

[versed hornet]

i was waiting for passes

[hollow skiff]

So you weren’t helping the team and Ehere just waiting to be handed a pass?

[raw wraith]

i mean if he is playing the upfield role he should be getting fed passes

the team stats are horrible. If he touched the ball 6 times and has those stats hes golden

[versed hornet]

.

[hollow skiff]

I mean there is no set roles

And even then

WHAG avout on turnovers

[raw wraith]

most of my games that im not potatoing im feeding my strikers 10+ passes minimum

[hollow skiff]

That means on defense they weren’t very useful

[raw wraith]

same with interceptions for midfielder, he tends to have more i noticed

[hollow skiff]

Yea well they have no defining stat to any role

Besides the only goal scored

[raw wraith]

maybe in higher ranks but in lower ranks ppl take roles 🤷

it just works

[icy trench]

Idk what people expect when they play solo people are going to ball hogg so wother learn to play around those types of players or find yourself some teammates

[raw wraith]

basically ye. if you want better tm8s u just have to be the guy plugging the holes so u can rank up easier

[hollow skiff]

Yea whcih was not what was happening so I don’t think putting the blame on the loss on their teammates is very fair

Especially considering on just the numbers

They didn’t really do much better

[versed hornet]

again

[raw wraith]

if its anything like rl though the problem doesnt get removed entirely, ppl just get faster and more competent xD

[versed hornet]

they ignored me

and keep passing for cirujano

probably his friend

[hollow skiff]

Then okah defense

And steal the ball if you want it

But again

Low interceptions

[versed hornet]

i suck defending

im only good playmaking

attacking

[hollow skiff]

Minimal passes

[versed hornet]

i dont have the ball

i cant pass without it

idk if see

saw*

2 passes

broodv

[hollow skiff]

Ok but

If your consistently getting games like these

You have to maybe realzie

It’s probably not just your teammates

[versed hornet]

i always spam pass button and they ignore me

[hollow skiff]

You have to adapt to the situation

Ok well tjag also might be a problem

No one like passing to a cherry picker or pass comm spammer

[versed hornet]

i just spam when im alone

[raw wraith]

ye true, but not every1 is playing for that reason. I prefer defending and lucky for me.. thats the hole that needs plugging nearly every game xD but hue is a striker. dont blame him for not wanting to take defense.

[hollow skiff]

Yeah but imagine from their perspective

[raw wraith]

it is what it is basically

unlucky game chem

fast next xD

[hollow skiff]

There’s someone on their team who won’t play defense and just spams ball pass occasionally

[hollow skiff]

Well you still need to be well rounded

Casue half of the game is attacking

It’s not a hole

As much as just part of the skill set

I undertabd having a preference

[raw wraith]

na. I dont need striking trust me

i am that player that will set you up perfectly to tap in a goal (not yet, im still a shitter xd)

[hollow skiff]

But imo it would just make sense to do what ever helps me get to the prefercne position

[versed hornet]

I mean when they pass me i assist or score

A spanish said im goat

[hollow skiff]

Idk I get the mindset

But you also have to then become aware if you want to stick to just one way of playing

Yohr fonna have to come to terms that yohr most likely not gonna always have a good time or even most of the time

[sleek glacier]

u are

[raw wraith]

its how the game is going to evolve im sure. ppl will have clear strengths and teams will just fill in the space they are good in

[hollow skiff]

Wel hue isn’t

THAGS the thing

[sleek glacier]

u actually are

[raw wraith]

im almost certain

[hollow skiff]

Or at least those games

Their playstyle depends on the ability of their teammates

Which is a very varied experience of fun

[raw wraith]

ye but im not saying they will be absolute potatos at other stuff

[hollow skiff]

But

Well in this case

They are they admitted to sucking at defense

But again

It’s a difference in perspective

So I don’t think it’s like wrong

To play Likr that

[sleek glacier]

it’s honestly dumb that defenders can just spam tackles like that. It makes no sense. If you try a tackle and fail, the attacker should win — simple. The fact that a defender can throw 50 tackles in 3 seconds, miss 49, and face no penalty is one of the most unbalanced and frustrating things right now.

[hollow skiff]

It just comes with ots own flaws

[raw wraith]

i am silver rank lewi, we all suck at defense, including the ones who are strong in defense xD

[versed hornet]

lol

[sleek glacier]

why

i think u are

everyone is goated somehow

[versed hornet]

put me on gk is crazy

[raw wraith]

its a mess ngl but im praying its skill issue

[versed hornet]

idk why but i sell every time that i get gk

[raw wraith]

im literally cringing when a spam fest starts happening

[versed hornet]

or go to defense

[raw wraith]

and nobody can stop themselves bcz now its a race to get the ball touched away lmao

[versed hornet]

i know how to pressure keeper, defenders

but be a CB is too much to me

idk why

[raw wraith]

cb is last man basically?

right?

presuming center back

thats my strongest position tbh for my rank anyway

nobody does anything interesting that needs defending tbh xD

[versed hornet]

ye

[raw wraith]

im ngl the amount of times I've thrown in a standing tackle the wrong way to then just turn around and obliterate them with a slide tackle is just wrong 😂

[versed hornet]

i made the final assist

dribbled gk

and a cb

[main elm]

carrot we staring pro team in remagch are you willing to be our medical staff

[versed hornet]

and passed to my teammate

[raw wraith]

i can be the chef

[main elm]

chef of what

like cooking?

[raw wraith]

just need a few years to cook and ill be out of silver

ye lmao xD

[versed hornet]

its crazy how i tackle only player's feet and still count as a interception

[main elm]

we play like plat to diamond so nothing crazy chill

but it's still cool to have people around

meds stuff coaches

etc

[versed hornet]

we should nerf tackle with controlled dribbling

[raw wraith]

what kind of meds are we talking here 🤔

[main elm]

ATM nerfing anything is ass worthy since game is so laggy on rankeds

[raw wraith]

what kind of cooking did u think I meant xD

[main elm]

you said chef not cook

I thought like idk chief of staff or smth

[raw wraith]

chemist 😉

[main elm]

coach from silver ain't really the prettiest sign

[raw wraith]

its a mind game

[main elm]

altho tactical skills are different from playing one

[raw wraith]

maybe even double bluff

is the team using me as a bluff.. or are they actually taking my advice

do they plan for silver strats.. or the bluff?

or am i actually a goated tactical player stuck in silver

none of the above

[main elm]

well it's easier to tell people what to do if you are just watching them

I'll give you a call

maybe

[spiral basin]

We made it chat

[sleek glacier]

tackle, dribble, aim and shoot..
the game rn:
pass-pass-pass

[brittle hemlock]

In my high ranked games barely anyone was dribbling because it just wasn't worth it. The whole time it was pass in triangle few times and then cross/shoot

This will get stale quickly. Dribbling gotta get buffed

[sleek glacier]

yes at the moment everything is too boring and not dynamic at all

[brittle hemlock]

Skill ceiling is too low

[sleek glacier]

absolutely

nothing to learn

nothing actually hard to master, you know?

[brittle hemlock]

Yeah

[main elm]

I'd be saying that daily on that chat

[frigid ether]

what was hard to master with LB+A?

directional taps works still as they should

however, I wouldn't mind "blocking" extra effort sprint for few sec after failed tackle/slide

[raw wraith]

just had a game where 2 of us couldnt interact with the ball 🤔 first time ive had the bug

not like the normal frozen ball bug, like legit just 2 of us couldnt interact with the ball everyone else could xD

on top of that my tm8 are roasting me bcz they think im regarded 🫠

[vital zinc]

but why do you want a blue lock game? I prefer football games, thanks 🙂

[raw wraith]

..bro look at the trailers. it's cleary targetting a wider audience

its blatantly obvious by now this game has aquired a fairly mixed playerbase and i think there is a balance where the majority of us can be happy

I hope we dont lose those mechanicaly creative players tbh, I think they are important for improving the gameplay for everyone. Where ppl differ on this is that football purists dont see the need for "weird" mechanics because they already know how much complexity can be accomplished in football playing it as football. But that is just as black and white as the selfish egoist who see no interest in the tactical pieces.

I like to think most of the ppl that have been pushing against this new update (in this thread) arent even those type of players, they just want more individual freedom and less fast paced passing plays. Yes I understand that is football but I feel like this game has sparked a vision in many ppl of something different

[south drum]

I mean its sloclap they'll probably fix it

both of their games have really good gameplay and i doubt they'd fold on their third

they'll most likely listen to the community

[raw wraith]

no chance this game has massive potential

bro i dont even follow football and im so fucking hooked on this game lmao

[south drum]

?? That doesn't matter

most people who like blue lock don't follow football

[raw wraith]

no i mean the potential audience is massive

[south drum]

obviously

the game peaked like 150k players

[raw wraith]

yep 😄

[south drum]

rematch really fell off guys 🙁

23 players on rematch rn

guys

its so over

game died

bcof bad gameplay

that's march 20025 not 2025 btw

[frigid ether]

Disgusting!
I bet, that in 2 hours the game will die completely with 0 players online

Like dead, dead

[frigid ether]

and most people who follow football dont like blue lock 😄

[vital zinc]

I like football, I like Blue Lock, and I hate Blue Lock players in Rematch

Because they don't know how to play football but they want to adapt a football game to them

Everytime I see a Nagi or Barou in my team I know that the match will be horrible

[ocean tusk]

I think when the full game launches there should be stricter skill based matchmaking in normal lobbies than what is currently used. That would mostly fix that issue as generally I think the better players learn that passing is the meta, and being greedy with the ball is very unforgiving if you lose it during the transitions.

[frigid ether]

I just rewatched the trailer. @raw wraith

We had, in order reels of:
Three shot attempts
One dribble attempt (failed due to slide) resulting with another shot and lost goal due to failed dribble
Keeper passing
Chain of 6 passes including single directional tap in between finished with a goal
Two passes and a goal 😄

So as of now the game is 100% true to its trailer ;D
The only shown attempt of trying to dribble two people in a row results in fail and a lost goal. ;D

[raw wraith]

alright you have beaten me by abusing my laziness.

however, i think you still understand what i was getting at

I am only here bcz of my point

yk what im saying?

[south drum]

I don't think that's true

pretty much every person who i know has watched blue lock and likes football

[raw wraith]

i dont like blue lock, and im not a football fan. I love this game 🤔 😂

[frigid ether]

But You know maybe a 0.001% of football fanbase 🙂

[south drum]

oh so you do know 100% of the football fanbase

and can tell?

you know maybe a 0.001% of football fanbase

most of the fanbase of football is grown ass men

[frigid ether]

Lets go and make a poll on a premiership stadium.
Would be shocked if at least one per 100 would know of it

[south drum]

ofcourse they won't be watching anime bro

[raw wraith]

blue lock got so fkn repetitive mid way through, I just couldnt man

[south drum]

Does that mean that most people who would watch it would dislike it?

that's like saying most people who like football would hate super strikers (The goat show)

[south drum]

this isn't 2015 anime is in the mainstream now bro 🙏

some footballers literally do anime celebrations

after scoring a goal

[frigid ether]

I couldn't stand 5 minutes. Sorry.
Thats for a 12 yo

While age of average gamer currently sits at 35 😉

[raw wraith]

ngl its cool af just lacked depth to me

[south drum]

I really doubt that's true

ain't no way

[south drum]

fairt

fair

everyone likes something else

solo leveling is considered an awesome anime and for me it's mid at best

[frigid ether]

Google. The research is available public

[south drum]

can't judge people based on opinions

[south drum]

you can't really research that though

what are you gonna do?

check the selected age on apps?

pretty sure every single time i have to select my age

i just take 1/1/2000

bc im too lazy

[frigid ether]

Of course You can. Even Steam does it every time they do a spec data 😄

[south drum]

99% of kids lie about their age on the internet

that's like looking at mrbeasts channel and saying that mostly adults watch him

bc of the data

besides pretty sure there's like 3 billion gamers on the planet

pretty obvious it's not only kids

[raw wraith]

I generally ditest those OP main character animes but solo leveling has been a fun watch for me. Thought I was going to hate it when he pulled up the damn quest menu mid episode 😂

[south drum]

you're not living in the early 2000's where gaming is for kids and losers

and so is anime

[south drum]

The anime is fine

it just lacks depth for me

[frigid ether]

Facts:
The majority of Steam players (64%) are between 18 and 35 years old, with 21% between 36 and 45 years old, and 15% above 46 years old. Gender: The Steam player base is predominantly male (95%), with 5% identifying as female.

[south drum]

Pretty sure I'm 25 on steam

while I'm not even 18 irl

does that mean i count into 18 and 35?

[frigid ether]

So that You can clearly say that 'what I think' is surely not true.

[south drum]

yes

yes it does

[raw wraith]

oh lord here we go

this thread is the ultimate discussion thread xD

[south drum]

😛

anyway

nerf goalkeepers

buff dribbling

[raw wraith]

actually goated discussion thread lmao

[south drum]

nerf tackle spamming

buff field size

👅

[raw wraith]

i dont mind making gk more difficult but please let them have room to grow too. I want GK to be just as interesting as striker

[south drum]

striker isn't really interesting either bc it forces you into a loop

either pass or lose the ball

or maybe 5% of the time dribble a few people

[raw wraith]

im totally fine with adding more tools it just needs to be done carefully

[south drum]

the "tools" we have now are fine

[raw wraith]

we dont want to end up in a cycle of nerfs and buffs

[south drum]

it's just that their balancing is off

[raw wraith]

fair enough

[south drum]

I mean

the dribbling can just be reverted from the last beta

it was way faster

the gk nerfs can surely be made and balanced to be fair

[frigid ether]

Untrue again

Devs confirmed they didnt change

[south drum]

in that case

its input delay being way bigger than before

because from my clips

i can easily tell

[frigid ether]

Just stamina bar is shorter. And they confirmed that they just removed invincibility out of dribble stance.

[south drum]

that the dribbling takes longer to initiate

I mean it might be that

because I have seen some CRAZY things on 60 ping

like players teleporting all over

it's actually so funny bro

anyway whatever we can come up with to hate on the game

surely isn't as bad as the

[raw wraith]

i only played the last beta and even then way less than this beta and my point is I prefered it but the issue for me is I cant confidently say that was the correct path for the game because of my lack of hours (especially in football games overall). I come from RL so im used to fast paced plays anyways so im also biased in that regard

[south drum]

"the game only weighs 6gb it should be free or 5$ bc no one is gonna buy it" 😡

[south drum]

rl?

[raw wraith]

i legit had to stop reading those threads

[south drum]

yeah that guy in that thread

was yapping about how sifu is an unknown game

and no one knew about it before rematch came out

[raw wraith]

rocket league

[raw wraith]

on that note, Stamina bars under player names/under players? Surely it has to be a thing?

[young badge]

My biggest worry is that the game will be dead in a month because people can't buy a game thats 25€ 💀 get a job pls

[south drum]

It's actually so funny to me bro

[frigid ether]

That was a simplification from my side sorry

Its not about visual size, etc

I just drains faster

[raw wraith]

no no, i changed point sorry adhd lol

[south drum]

you said on that note

[raw wraith]

true

im suggesting adding stam bars on screen for ur tm8s

[south drum]

which made sense to change the points

[south drum]

maybe not 100% accurate so its a bit realistic

[raw wraith]

no no it has to be 100% accurate

otherwise dont add it. that im sure of

in RL it was such a massive improvement for solo q

[frigid ether]

And then its me... Playing 15$ per car and 12$ per single track in iRacing...
On top of its 110$ per year subscription ;D

[raw wraith]

but boost is way more punishing in rl so maybe its not a huge necessity here

bcz if you are out of boost in rl, ur pretty fd, you can take a 50 basically. Here, we can still pass shoot etc

we have ways to get rid of the ball far away still i mean

[frigid ether]

Damn even my son (14) managed to earn money for Rematch himself, so I could just buy my copy, not both of them.

[young badge]

25€ is totally fine, or make it free and charge 10€ for the battle pass and skins will be 20€ like in rocket league and fortnite?

[ocean tusk]

Tbh I was surprised to see £20 on steam, would have thought this a £15 game like rocket league (when it first released). But Ig thats the gaming price inflation since then as more people are willing to spend ridiculously on paid games.

[south drum]

bro it's still not that much

atleast it's not 80 dollars

[frigid ether]

Gaming and monetization is so absurd right now.

[south drum]

yeah it is ridiculous

[frigid ether]

And yet You can still buy Game of the Year with no microtransaction bullshit for 40$

While mediocre games are falling more and more.

[south drum]

releasing mid games for 80$ is crazy i agree bro

[frigid ether]

This year really gives me faith

And would be so much fun to see that most of GOTY awards will go to 30 people studio who asked only 40$ for their masterpiece 😄

While f.e. Brainless Creed Shadows didnt even make back 50% of what it costed 🤣

[ocean tusk]

Yeah ik but that mentality of its not much is what I mean. People are more and more willing to spend "not much" so when some people are saying why the game ain't free or lower in price, that's why.

[south drum]

that game was like 4/10

[south drum]

the game isn't expensive bro

[ocean tusk]

Yes obviously

But it is higher than what you'd expect

[south drum]

not really schedhule 1 costs the same

atleast where i live

[ocean tusk]

That game is £5 cheaper in GBP

Probably the conversions tbh between euro to GBP that make that £20

[south drum]

isn't 1 pound like 1.5 dollars

why is it cheaper

raise the price

bc they're british

or something

[ocean tusk]

Depends on their bank as to the exact conversion rate but usually everything in gbp is cheaper than other currencies

[raw wraith]

no its not?

[south drum]

game's cheaper than schedhule 1

🙏

this is the average indie game price

[raw wraith]

if u cant afford to put aside/save/account for $30 u shouldnt be worrying about whether or not its worth it to you

[south drum]

you should be worrying about paying for groceries

🙏

[raw wraith]

literally

[south drum]

I don't think I leave the house without like 150$ to spend however i wish

[ocean tusk]

It's not about being able to afford it bro I literally just spent about 100 quid on DLC for euro truck simulator.

Point was obviously missed which was that unfortunately the average indie game now might be 20 but before the used to be a lot lower and the monetisation of games is just costing us more and more

[south drum]

if you can't spend 30 dollars that's on you bro

[south drum]

Not really the fault of indie game developers

[ocean tusk]

I've already bought the game bro

[ocean tusk]

Never said it was their fault

[south drum]

I'm not talking about you

Not every game can have super huge massive undertale tier success and afford setting their game price really low

so I'll never complain about the pricing of an indie game as long as they aren't ridiculous

[ocean tusk]

Well there's actually quite a lot of indie games that price really low and attract volume to make money. I'm really on about the general trend of games prices which are just going up and more recently over the last few years have been going up a lot faster.

[south drum]

Yeah thankfully I don't think alot of AAA companies are gonna be able to afford that soon

the games are mid

and the prices are on the rise

If gta 6 releases for a reasonable price they'll be forced to lower their prices

to account for it

[ocean tusk]

They rely more so on loyal customers rather than competent indivudals looking to spend their money wisely

[south drum]

less and less people are buying things like fifa

[ocean tusk]

I'm pretty sure fifa 23 was the most successful launch in the franchise history so not sure about that one

[raw wraith]

end of discussion really

another guy also bought goat simulator and said this game wasnt worth the money

maybe just not your type of game 🤷

i would pay even more than 30 for this game

[south drum]

fc 25 peaked on release

besides

yeah i'm still right

[ocean tusk]

Yeah so my point is loyalty

[south drum]

less and less of that

[ocean tusk]

That's all that drives those games

[south drum]

most of my friends stopped playing cod

ubisoft is struggling too

[ocean tusk]

Yeah but your friends aren't the world. Cod is still a very successful franchise

[south drum]

i mean the newest one was good

but alot of people simply refuse to buy AAA titles anymore

which is good for the industry

[ocean tusk]

Worldwide fifa and cod have been doing really really well over the last few years because of the very very large casual player base that never go on reddit never join discord never do anything other than buy the game every year and play

[ocean tusk]

Not enough unfortunately

[south drum]

guys im just trying to do a lob into a shot and I can't wth is going on? I mean i had no problem yesterday

🤔

[raw wraith]

working for me still

[ocean tusk]

At the end of the day it's relative. If you'd pay more than 30 for this game that's you as a consumer but you'd probably never get a queue cuz a lot of people wouldn't. This game will miss out on its volume potential I think at its current price point in GBP anyway. That's what I was saying

[young badge]

Game is on gamepass isnt it?

[ocean tusk]

Is it?

[raw wraith]

man, I have like 6 games total in my library, I just pay the devs whatever they want if I see the game has potential and devs seem decent

pay what they want within reason. I wouldnt pay 100 for this game for example, bcz im just not a football fanatic like that. If I was, i probably would

[ocean tusk]

Oh lol I have about 80 in my library so Ig we are very different types of gamers

[raw wraith]

ye im super selective

and i only play 1 or 2 games at a time

[ocean tusk]

Yeah Im playing about 6 titles rn

[raw wraith]

i did notice a lot of ppl asking for it be less or f2p have sometimes hundreds of games

and so i can understand it starts to add up

[ocean tusk]

F2p in my opinion would be a mistake

Glad they didn't do free to play

[raw wraith]

most definitely 👍

[ocean tusk]

The day the open beta happened was probably some of the worst public lobbies around hahhaha

At the end of the day if youre paying money for a football game you probably know the basics of football but when it went open and everyone could play you could see some players just absolutely clueless

[young badge]

yea game will be on gamepass day 1

[celest tundra]

Well well Well if someone made a post for this! More the merrier we need this change

[south drum]

I've seen a squad full of cheaters once in this game

[celest tundra]

How do i link mine???

[ocean tusk]

Mad I didn't even know that. Guess that's good

[south drum]

imagine the amount of that if the game was f2p

[celest tundra]

#1379012380536864798 Upvotes come on lets go

[frigid ether]

Yes it will be.
But unsure about beeing able to teamup with Steam friends, so I bought a copy on Steam

[ocean tusk]

Yeah bro unreal amount

[south drum]

but still

only one cheater sightings

in 30 hours of gameplay

is nice

[ocean tusk]

Zero in 30 hours so count myself lucky

[south drum]

in cs:go you get only 30 cheaters sightings in an hour of gameplay

[south drum]

They prob didn't have enough time to make proper cheats

no one I know except me and my friends when we played them

saw other cheaters

but the cheats i've seen are crazy

these people were reacting to everything frame 1

[ocean tusk]

Yeah but realistically the cheats will be extremely obvious to report and ban

[south drum]

i felt like i was playing against tesla bots

the only reason i won was bc of the dribble into short lob into shot

which confused the cheaters

[south drum]

i thought i was playing against bots at the start

so it'll prob be really easy

im so happy

indie games are winning over

[raw wraith]

there is cheats that good already? wtf. Took awhile for them to appear in rl but that must be because of the system we have here

probably way easier to make a cheat that can find and lock onto a ball with ingame features xD

i pray it doesnt get out of hand because its a massive turn off for me. I just cant play in a cheat infested game, even if there are good lobbies

server down 😦 not closing the game xd

[icy mica]

rocket league was barebones on release

[ocean tusk]

This game is in an ironically similar state too im just hoping it can also reach the same kind of height if not more and not decline like RL is

[sleek glacier]

yeah true

[south drum]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1258031146671800401/1341213545261695048/attachment.gif

atp i think this is the avg rematch player

[sleek glacier]

i didnt catch the joke

[lapis nimbus]

i think they just need to nerf the tackles

because in this beta i was still able to pull of some crazy dribbles.
BUT then they would 180 (as if i hadnt just emberassed their entire bloodline) and hit me with 700 slide tackles

or i would pull off a shot that would make ronaldo blush only for the keeper to hit me with some "youre already dead" type shit and fucking teleport

THATS whats annoying

THATS why i want more individual skills

because having a team that cant play or pass for shite makes me want to take it into my own hands but its impossible now

anyway that my opinion i dont know hang me or somin

(thanks for the emotes darky)

[sleek glacier]

ty for sharing your thoughts

[radiant heath]

Maybe increasing the stamina cost of slide tackles would make them less spammy

[brittle hemlock]

I think dribbling should cost less stamina instead

Slide still spends a good amount of stamina, problem is if you miss you just get up instantly

[radiant heath]

That's true

I just really dislike slide, extra effort, slide

[brittle hemlock]

They can't add cooldown but they could add a bit extra time you stay on the ground after a failed slide tackle

[radiant heath]

Yeah that would force people to position better to angle their slide so the ball goes to their teammate

Instead of just flipping someone and running away with the ball

[main elm]

instead of nerfing stuff what about buffing servers

[barren musk]

Strange that people have so different experiences with the game. I also kinda dislike the dribble nerf but defending the ball is still easy you just have to do the ball control action or bait the enemy into commiting a slide then run past. The Rainbow flick is now a high risk high reward move and you have to think before using it. And slide spam is way too easily counterable if you know how. Are you using mouse and keyboard? Because i switched to controller and the entire game feels different now. So maybe thats an issue

[ocean tusk]

Yeah me and you same bro. I noticed it slow down but icl if you just think with any sort of tactics and gamesense it's just better being slower

[frigid ether]

Extra effort is a problem here. If I miss the tackle, can still catch back up to You simply using blue bar. That shouldn't be the case

[ocean tusk]

Main thing for me is servers, if there's less lag there's more predictability in what everyone's doing. The lag was the main thing which made everything so hard to deal with sometimes

[ocean tusk]

Yeah the stam drain for sliding needs to be like way more imo

[frigid ether]

but stamina cost doesn't change a thing

if I double press LB, I am Lighting McQueen

Extra effort is the problem here, not general stamina

[ocean tusk]

It does cuz once you get the ball from blue you are forced to then not have that for some times and it will regen very very slowly if you stam is low

[celest tundra]

I’m ngl bro when I started keeping track of the opponents stamina roughly that was playing on me

[barren musk]

Then you just protect the ball or pass?

[celest tundra]

Game got like 3x easier

[ocean tusk]

If you just give a higher stam hit for slides, people will stop doing it

[frigid ether]

I dont care.
I catch up to You, B for regular tackle, pass (even randomly) up the field to my friends

stay in the back to recover

I dont care I used all stamina to prevent it - I wont need it in the counter attack

[barren musk]

But the tackle wont hit if you do the ball controll action bruh

[ocean tusk]

But if you catch up to me with your blue thing it should be that all your stam is gone because the slide should drain a lot more stam, that's my idea anyway

[frigid ether]

but if I wouldnt have extra effort, I wouldn't be able to catch You anymore

[frigid ether]

Pretty sure that blue speed is same, no matter the amount of stamina

[ocean tusk]

It's not

[frigid ether]

Although didn't count frames on it yet

[brittle hemlock]

Yeah game is way too easy now with solo dribbling dead

[ocean tusk]

If your main stam fully regenerated then you gain your blue way faster

So many people didn't notice that

[frigid ether]

Regenerating, yes

[ocean tusk]

Yes exactly

[frigid ether]

but I talk about movement speed

[brittle hemlock]

When you are a defender you just stand in front of the other player and easily counter any move they make

[ocean tusk]

So punish people sliding and using blue thing to tackle again by increasing slide stam drain? That's what I'm saying

[celest tundra]

Well it works on offense too

Just not as important

[ocean tusk]

The cost of moving is stam tho so don't nerf the movement nerf the stam drain

[celest tundra]

Also ball hogging has been nowhere near as much of a problem as cherry picking for me

A lot of my teammates do pass and that’s great but they never get back to play defense

[ocean tusk]

Depends who you played with tbh

[frigid ether]

But during the blue boost, I will stil catch You and poke the ball.
Dont care I'll be dead after

You wont have ball either way

I fine with beeing full red on regular stamina, if I kicked the ball randomly to your half

[ocean tusk]

Then you will be tactically outclassed by a better team because if you are dumb enough to rechallenge a slide you lose go zero stam have no blue thing for ages you'll be useless to your team

But atm the slide doesn't drain enough