The game is completely different now. (And boring)

[main elm]

hes right tho. teamplay > soloplay. i hate my teammates tho

[silver bolt]

Who gives a fuck about football i would like to see Messi kick it off the backboard

This is rematch its not the same and if u treat the same its just gonna end up a worse experience

If u want more true to life soccer just play fifa clubs its lit

[versed hornet]

I cant play as a team because i cant carry anymore

[main elm]

same, play and pray

[barren lava]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtKjX2iHcu4
Please look how much faster my stam goes down in this clip even with dropping sprint between flicks

[versed hornet]

So i pass to a dumbass, he loses the ball

[ornate harness]

What’s the point of having a stamina if you can run through the whole pitch? If there is a stamina it’s for a reason.

[sleek pilot]

theres nothing wrong with dribbling in the game - it just requires more skill to use - if youre surrounded by 3 people trying to take the ball you shouldnt be able to flip over them all - you should pass it - thats just common sense - we shouldnt dumb down the game so ball hoggers can play their own game in a team based game

[frigid ether]

Oh, and this.
Why on eaeth striker animation always gets priority if both him and defender are perfectly placed at the rebound spot? 😉

[versed hornet]

You should be able to run from them

[sleek pilot]

it defeats the purpose of a TEAM game

[main elm]

how am i supposed to attack with my players having asthma attacks on defense?

[hot crest]

You couldn't do that against good players before either LOL

[ornate harness]

By learning to play

[versed hornet]

It doesnt, because there will not exist 3 people against 1 Man anymore

[silver bolt]

I don't think any priority is givent to strikers vs keepers its about starting ur animation before the other

[versed hornet]

And let 2 players alone

[sleek pilot]

this argument could be used against everything, may as well remove keepers cos you cant score against a good one

[hot crest]

You can score against a good one

A keeper can play perfectly and you can score still

[sleek pilot]

only if youre better

[silver bolt]

Today's games where just ppl turbo crashing the box getting behind the keeper and scoring before the goalie could start there animations

[hot crest]

right, you cannot win as dribbling against perfect defense at all

even if you're better

[main elm]

OHH IM SORRY YES. LETS JUST HAVE THAT ONE AWFUL TEAMMATE CAMP WAY INFRONT, SPAM PASS ME AND CALL THAT GOOD GAMEPLAY

[sleek pilot]

you can still very easily chip it over players

[hot crest]

not good ones

[silver bolt]

If they have sprint and header and back unbound maybe

[sleek pilot]

perfect defence is getting past one person - if you cant do that then the other player is better

[versed hornet]

Bad position of my teammates

[sleek pilot]

all you have to do is pass it to someone who isnt marked

[hot crest]

you literally can't right now

[versed hornet]

They cherrypick

[frigid ether]

Unfortunately its been confirmed, that for some reason, striker animation is getting priority.
Something caused by the fact You preload the shot before the ball is getting there.

[sleek pilot]

you can - ive done it many time s

[hot crest]

then you aren't playing good players

sorry

[sleek pilot]

or you just arent as good since youre wanting to lower the skill gap? sorry

[silver bolt]

The more u know but that also implies that if the defense uses the kick to clear they would get prio right

[sleek pilot]

welcome to the world of online gaming ig

[hot crest]

I'm currently one of the top players in my entire region right now idk what your argument is here

[main elm]

rocket league was empty without flip resets too

1 thing changed the gameplay so hard

[sleek pilot]

how do you even see this?

[hot crest]

by playing the tournaments and being at the top rank

[versed hornet]

If someone stand infront of you, you cant do that much

[silver bolt]

This is true I watched him miss only 1 open net today

[sleek pilot]

maybe dont run straight into him

[sleek pilot]

wheres the tournaments?

[silver bolt]

There was one today

[versed hornet]

Well, doesn't help the fact of the dribbling got

Slower

[sleek pilot]

it makes 0 difference

[main elm]

Dribbling gets you about 1 meter left/right. mediocare defense just snaps it out

[silver bolt]

Lowkey I heard this wallaby guy was carried by his defense tho probably cant trust him fr fr

[frigid ether]

Unless it didnt. As devs said ;d

[sleek pilot]

this whole post is literally just a skill issue

[main elm]

Streamers always have that one friend that carries them

must be you

[frigid ether]

You just got less stamina and less iframes, trololo

[versed hornet]

They clearly fixed the old lt dribbling

[versed hornet]

And fix that isnt a progress is just boring

[silver bolt]

Its true while I may have missed like 9 open nets none where on stream so I'm kinda like that

[frigid ether]

They did not.
They removed invincibility iframes only. 🤣

[versed hornet]

What?

[main elm]

You didnt miss, you tried to rebound but your teamate werent there

[silver bolt]

Couldn't agree more if thr defense is afk u can indeed dribbled around them in fact I did it multiple times today or maybe like twice

[versed hornet]

So before it was timing, nos it's NOT?

[main elm]

multiple times or like twice?

wide spectrum

[hot crest]

"Hey, we feel like the recent changes have made the game not feel great"

"mUsT bE a SkIlL iSsUe"

[silver bolt]

You know twice does count as multiple times so somewhere around there

[hot crest]

I disagree with these other people, but at least they have actual arguments

[main elm]

aint more then 1 multiple ?

[silver bolt]

Exactly

[frigid ether]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5CT5SshGS0&ab_channel=7XFootball
Game is broken!
Please fix! 🤣

[main elm]

WELL WE CAN ARGUE THAT NA SKILL LEVEL IS ALWAYS LOWER THAN EU SOOOO

[versed hornet]

boateng?

[hot crest]

In fairness they have a much higher playerbase so I'd kinda hope so

[silver bolt]

Yk I haven't watched EU play but I'd belive it they be playing football alot and probably have more players

[hot crest]

They also just have a much bigger football culture

So I think inherently will have more in-depth strategies that develop faster than NA

[ornate harness]

That does not happen in high rank matches

[main elm]

yeah like messi, neymar, ronaldihno

oh wait?

[hot crest]

I meant over NA

[main elm]

well they are South....

america...

[silver bolt]

Close enough🦅

[hot crest]

I think this might be the first relevant game ever that SA might have a chance of being better than NA

[frigid ether]

Imagine doing American Football game and people crying they cannot auto pass tackling LBs with fakes. ;D

[main elm]

I dont think people in brazil have stable internet connection

[silver bolt]

Don't tell this to the SA OS players

[hot crest]

I would complain if you had no legitimate options to juke past opposing defenders yes

[frigid ether]

Or Baseball game where people would cry they cannot hit excellent performed pitches 😉

[main elm]

Im not even sure if majority of people in brazil have internet connection

[hot crest]

I would complain if you had zero chance of hitting perfect pitches yes

[silver bolt]

If the pitch is in the strike zone u can obviously hit it

[hot crest]

Yo chill 💀

[main elm]

I aint no specialist but i heard they have really bad economy rn

or was that argentina

or both

[frigid ether]

Tried ever MLB online play?
People were crying so much, that right now You can HR even if I intentionally pitch for the ground.
Forget the strike zone

[silver bolt]

You don't wanna get into the show and baseball plus its a bad argument what makes a perfect pitch is much more than its location

[silver bolt]

Yeah I'm max rank and the show and played D2 baseball

Im a bit of a mlb fan

[hot crest]

Yeah this isn't the guy to argue about baseball with

[main elm]

Im too european to argue

[frigid ether]

And thats what zyiy expect? That if I put it intentionally as far off strike zone as the game let me, and You still are able to HR it?

[hot crest]

I would not want that no

Personally

But I would want the ability to hit a perfect pitch in the strike zone

[silver bolt]

No one made that argument if ur pitch isnt over the plate Noone said u can hit it

[frigid ether]

But thats how it works in The Show. You can HR everything no matter the pitch location because people were crying so much for years.

[main elm]

baseball is weird. you have to throw ball really fast in invisible square and someone with stick has to hit it. multimilion bussines

[silver bolt]

That just isnt a true stament

The biggest problem with old show is pitch speed at highest difficulty was to slow

[hot crest]

The equivalent in football being I'd want to be able to make a dribble move and have a chance of throwing off the defender even if up until that point they're playing perfectly.

[silver bolt]

So at highest rank games where like 18-15

[main elm]

Lets just add abilities like roblox to the game so we can get past defenders

[frigid ether]

And thats why I stopped playing it

[silver bolt]

Goat difficulty made it a little better but the speed still comes in at like 83mph if u did the conversions to real time

So about like good high schol ball level

[hot crest]

Me when I run on a field of grass kicking around a ball of synthetic leather trying to get it into a rectangular box made of nylon string with one open side

[frigid ether]

That was annoying in 1v1 game.
Now imagine this one guy auto dribble with no stamina cost.
Where is fun for the other 9 players?

[hot crest]

Right, so a good in-between sounds great no?

[celest tundra]

I don’t think people are actually advocating for this lol

[main elm]

sounds like a fun game

[frigid ether]

If You dont have same tools, to counter the iframed dribble animation

If I want to deal with iframes, Id go back to Sekiro.

But this is supposed to be 5v5 team sport?

[hot crest]

You could counter the rainbow flick 100% of the time last test if played correctly as a defensive player. There was no timing needed either

But, it was fast enough to actually punish poor positioning by the defensive player

[main elm]

Technically everything should be counterable but some stuff should be hard to pull of and also hard to counter

[frigid ether]

2 out of 3.
Not 100%

[main elm]

just like rocket league

[hot crest]

And you actually had stamina after doing it so you could do something

[hot crest]

I have played almost 90 hours of rematch at this point against the best players in my region. Nobody has gotten a rainbow flick over me where I could do nothing about it

[frigid ether]

This exactly!
And it was biased way too much to dribble.
It was way to easy to execute in comparison to effort required to counter it

[main elm]

rematch always wanted to be a skill game. aint much skill with no mechs

[hot crest]

I also played against EU when the test kept putting us in random servers 💀 also never happened there and I was on 170 ping

[main elm]

How do you even know your ping

[hot crest]

You can turn it on in game

Network information

[main elm]

YOU CAN!?

[hot crest]

https://discordapp.com/channels/1055140456184426607/1092836537005260890/1377943625517764681

[main elm]

that should be auto on

[silver bolt]

Last test dribbling wasn't even like op or uncounterable it was still pretty weak last test too

[thin sleet]

If ur giving that example, tell me a player who can only run 10m before running out of fuel lol

[main elm]

they talk so much i cant be bothered

[frigid ether]

I dont even wanna know the packet loss ratio during this beta. Its abysmal

[ornate harness]

Like rainbow flicks. Oh wait

[silver bolt]

I mean are yall playing the same game rainbows where kinda mid last test to but at least u could use them

[frigid ether]

Overexaggerared.
You can easily travel half of the biggest field on full stamina. Even without the extra effort buff.

[main elm]

We currently have 3 mechs. Passing(lobs) , dribbleing (weak&slow), rainbow(easily readible)

[hot crest]

Me when I rainbow flick, use half my stam bar, the ball comes down and I catch it ready to see open field and the defender is standing there staring at me

[silver bolt]

Last test I got cooked on defense a few times this test i haven't been cooked once

[hot crest]

Not with the ball

[frigid ether]

Do You tap it forward?

[hot crest]

Yes

You have to against good defenders

[main elm]

dont we all

[hot crest]

You would rarely have space to just sprint with the ball normally

[frigid ether]

So interesting, cause I could clearly travel from my penalty box area over to opponent half on a single stamina bar.

Every single counterattack

[thin sleet]

Only if u go foward on a Straight line loo

[silver bolt]

Call me crazy but I actually think the stamina feels better than last test but the stuff u can spend ur stamina on is weaker

[frigid ether]

But I just make sure I have it maxed out during defense

[frigid ether]

Thats how it supposed to work?
Changing direction is most energy consuming process for human body.

[hot crest]

Box to past midfield line isn't exactly that far

[hot crest]

I'm huffin and puffin man...need my defenders to actually hit me with outlets properly

[tired compass]

bruh aint no way this thread is still ongoing 💀 @sleek glacier what have you done

[frigid ether]

As I said - half the field.
And I really believe I wont be able to ever sprint from box to box

[ornate harness]

Yes but if the defender is good enough it’s normal he can predict it but if you mind game him you can still win it too.

[hot crest]

I just really don't think so

[main elm]

Its a cool chat cause no time restrictions for messatges

[silver bolt]

I was just hitting shit💀

[main elm]

also people really like to argue

[tired compass]

true this is the new general chat

[hot crest]

My opinion will change when literally anyone cooks me when I couldn't do anything

[thin sleet]

Bro its a fcking game Who cares what a human body can do, or u think normal humans would dribble past all the team and rainbow flicks like nothing

[main elm]

let me 1v1 you on eu servers so my lag wins

[hot crest]

I mean this discussion is just fun cause people aren't just randomly insulting one another

which is rare for this community

[raw wraith]

mostly a fun read too. Absolutely amazed we've managed to keep it this civil tbh lmao

[main elm]

cause we all agree game should change but everyone wants different things added

[hot crest]

Wait till kickoff after you score and I can teleport the ball into your net

[tired compass]

? I havent seen anyone be heavy toxic yet

[main elm]

wanna see a cool clip?

sec

[hexed skiff]

Aslong as I get 3v3 ranked I'm happy haha

[tired compass]

not here or in general chat

[hot crest]

I'm honestly so glad that's the case for you because it's been terrible in other places I've seen

[frigid ether]

So forget all the limits!
Lets make a goal from corner to corner!
It will be so much more fun!
No more this ridiculous GK saves, they ruin the fun!

[tired compass]

this thread is just people's safe haven to discuss the game now ig

[raw wraith]

i mean sure, if the keeper cant save that its his fault

[hot crest]

https://www.twitch.tv/bestieinslot/clip/InspiringManlyEggplantBCWarrior-trHZrwy83GY3Otli?filter=clips&range=7d&sort=time

[silver bolt]

Darkpainn did indeed make that exact argument rn

[hot crest]

This is how we lost a tournament btw

[raw wraith]

bro has the entire field to react to it tbf

[celest tundra]

It’s cool this thread got popular but it kind of detracts from newer threads that don’t get read (like the one I just made)

[hot crest]

yeah this is terrible LOL

[tired compass]

wtf? This is probably desync

[main elm]

nah.

it was insta goal

i got mad at the guy for never passing

[raw wraith]

not really, people will read what interests them

[tired compass]

did you try replicating this?

[main elm]

also he was russian

[main elm]

not really

[raw wraith]

if this thread attracts eyes its because the title speaks to them

[hot crest]

It's just servers

[main elm]

The gk didnt even jump

[hot crest]

Happens usually within a time after kickoff

[main elm]

it happened like 2 min in

[hot crest]

Oh weird

[main elm]

i believe something with speed was it

[tired compass]

ok is this in the first beta? cause the netcode was awful back then and desync was super prevalent

[silver bolt]

Servers really have been a movie eveey test i wonder if it will be fixed in time since there's been no signs of improvement these type of sports games cant function without good servers

[celest tundra]

If people aren’t upvoting good posts it won’t get read. There’s plenty of good critique but because there are 3.5k comments saying the same thing over, and over, and over, they don’t get read

[main elm]

but theres no speed indicator for goals

which THERE SHOULD

[hot crest]

Most of the teleporting stuff I've seen has been after kickoff

[tired compass]

there is tho

[thin sleet]

Bro i will say i already see a goal form corner to corner

[tired compass]

on your crosshair

[hot crest]

This is the worst the servers have been ngl

[main elm]

also look at that

[raw wraith]

the devs will gather the relevant info dont worry about that

[hot crest]

As someone who played in every test

[tired compass]

matchmaking is worse yes but actual servers have improved alot

[main elm]

thats great desync

[frigid ether]

Comparison of previous beta to this one in regard to netcode and connection stuff...

Its like first permanentn connection previous beta, and ADSL phone line on this one 😉

[silver bolt]

Im guessing they just don't wanna invest in scaling servers up just to see a player drop on launch

[hot crest]

We will have to agree to disagree ngl...it's felt awful

[silver bolt]

Which makes sense

[tired compass]

damn ig it depends on region

[raw wraith]

agreed, netcode or smth is total ass this time ALTHOUGH improved massively since start of this beta

[hot crest]

It was much worse day 1 for sure

They have done a good job of improving it

[celest tundra]

That’s funny because I’m the complete opposite matchmaking is great but the servers are pretty shit at times

[raw wraith]

ye still needs fixing up for sure, havent tried new patch yet

hope its improved again

[hot crest]

Anwyays it's bed time for me, have work in 2 hours and haven't slept. Have a good time with the rest of the test. My opinion is dribbling sucks and needs to be buffed a bit but not to where it was exactly before!

[frigid ether]

LOL, had completely opposite experience wednesday ;d

[main elm]

imagine sleeping

[frigid ether]

Didnt wait longer than a minute for a match.
But the latency and netcode were uber bad

[sleek pilot]

It's really not that hard, idk why you're complaining honestly

[tired compass]

imagine being a contributing factor to society

[sleek pilot]

Where was these tournaments btw?

[silver bolt]

I mean I played defense all tournament and didn't get cooked once maybe I am just the defensive prodigy

[main elm]

this thread has 37 online people

[silver bolt]

I've been thinking I was born with the defensive gene

[tired compass]

who said anything about tournaments?

[sleek pilot]

He did

[hot crest]

rematch esports and bestieinslot are the twitch users

they will have the info there

[sleek pilot]

Lol

[hot crest]

Lol

[silver bolt]

Highly recommend joining the tournaments they are great and well ran

[tired compass]

oh you mean the content creator tournaments and such?

[sleek pilot]

Then you're probably just good

[main elm]

no friends cant join

[sleek pilot]

It's not hard to get past defence

[sleek pilot]

Ig I've never heard of any

[silver bolt]

Confirmed i knew I was built different

I don't watch football who are the best defenders

[raw wraith]

that dutch guy

[main elm]

van dick?

[raw wraith]

ye him lol

[main elm]

i know him only cause fifa top teams

i dont even play fifa

[raw wraith]

dont follow football but ive watched a bit of him. swear he gets away with a lot of "aggressive" defense tho lol

[main elm]

pepe was og good

[raw wraith]

he is a beast tho absolute unit

[main elm]

every aggresive defender is great

red cards are like throphies

[frigid ether]

Litteraly half an hour ago 😉
Van Dijk broke the game. Fix it! No fun to play!

[main elm]

im going to gym, convo died

[raw wraith]

alright guys, back here in a few hours to repeat the discussion with the same points and same counter points again 😂 🫡

[silver bolt]

Discord threads ina nutshell

[lime sigil]

im not sprinting in my clip, just flicking - its current state of the game, not old version.

[barren lava]

so its basically useless if u cant sprint in it in the old version you could Also in the old version you used to be able to flick one way then turn and do it the other way this is also no longer possible consistently

[tired compass]

you made the clip?

[lime sigil]

ill be honest bro - i have the video, side by side, but im so shit at video editing, i dont think its gonna show anything noteworthy, but i can upload it if u want

but i made 2 videos where i showcase that flick chains are still possible and u can still dribble normally

[tired compass]

no but the original discussion was on winning possession the rainbow flick animation is slower

[lime sigil]

my only conclusion from this discussion is: they need to streamline the distance from rainbowflicks and not make it dependant on which animation flicks it. i think that would fix the inconsistencies people experience. TBH it is still manageable most of the times, if you time your buttons correctly, but i agree - it is inconsistent

[tired compass]

flick chains are possible but dribbling now takes up more stamina so the scope of what you can do is alot tighter

[lime sigil]

yea thats not correct tho. its the same speed

@tired compass https://youtu.be/QmFMsREPTpE

i mistimed the first one

but second time i flick with header

and u can still get the same animations

[tired compass]

you see how you took a second to gain control of the ball first but then rainbow flicked it? Im talking as soon as you are in range to perform a rainbow flick

[lime sigil]

imo i mistimed it

lemme check

yea still same bro

if u get pass u can instant flick

even buffers the input 3 seconds

which is INSANE btw

@tired compass https://youtu.be/Cl5mbQ5XyO0

video is processing

[knotty wind]

Bro you can just stop wasting your time doing ephimeral measurements, you are wrong.

[lime sigil]

yea lets go back to speculating

im gonna tap out from this thread now 😄

[knotty wind]

thank you.

[main elm]

chat alive again

nvm dead

[raw wraith]

dw im cooking something up rn

[main elm]

another recording of something that changed over beta period

[brittle hemlock]

Whoever thinks dribbling is viable now is definitely not high rank. In top ranks you can't dribble shit and passing is the only way to play

Which is just boring

[knotty wind]

Game now is just UFC till dia 1, I only see slides on top of slides on top of slides

https://tenor.com/view/cop-cop-slide-cop-falling-off-slide-cop-flying-off-slide-gif-1653893110919650229

[versed hornet]

You mean noth america knows how football is?

USA plays football with their hands

No isn't the same

You can defend the rematch's new update

But say "NA has a good view of what's football", no

[dark dagger]

Hello everybody, did your controllers Mapping also change ?
My inputs for Push ball and Pass, swap... It's so disturbing ...
And it's not the only things that change
I just change my computer and it's the same ... I can't change it anywhere, or just find a preset for it

I mean yesterday it was good, and now it's different... 😭

[balmy wyvern]

the game should be free

[lone wyvern]

The game should bring back old beta movements

[main elm]

you are light years late

[main elm]

game still in beta

[main elm]

I rather pay 20$ now than have p2w stuff along the way

[lone wyvern]

« old beta »

[main elm]

I'm a big disfan of battlepasses

Fomo gameplay

[brittle hemlock]

I bet they will charge at least $25 for ronaldinho skin

[versed hornet]

0 wc

The football of Canada is base on alphonso davies

And MLS is based on players from others countries

The best american player is pulisic

[versed hornet]

"LeBron James of soccer"

So NO

AMERICA ISN'T A REFERENCE

Even indian football looks better

Gabriel Pec is a Brazilian player, in 1 seasons he has more than 30 G/A

Literally farmers league

[sleek glacier]

I said that the mechanics have been destroyed, compared to before it is useless, no one uses it and the game has become slow and boring. I also did some good dribbles in this beta but I didn't have fun in the meantime, this is the problem.

[knotty wind]

Me too, I've did some "crazy" stuff during those days... but not even closer to the old one (and not with the same fun)

[versed hornet]

Same

[sleek glacier]

yep thats it

[sleek pilot]

the these threads can be summed up with 1 message - people are using the same tactic as the old beta expecting no one to have thought of any counters and blame the game for their lack of improvement

[versed hornet]

If your team is bad

You cant win

As i said

[knotty wind]

there's no way someone can save a match, no matter what.

[versed hornet]

If you try a long shot the gk get it

If the other team tries it

My sells

[versed hornet]

😭😭😭

[raw wraith]

im so proud of myself ngl

[sleek glacier]

I got used to it pretty quickly, but that doesn't change the fact that the game has become very boring and not the game that the developers claim it to be "an infinite game loop, because every football match is different" yeah no shit. every match in this beta is the same

[near spire]

You can if team play is good and if they enable the dribbling system from previous beta. This new dribbling system is slow and sluggish, not to mention the connection issues and performance overall that destroys the gameplay comepletely.

[sleek pilot]

are you guys new to multiplayer games or something? @knotty wind@versed hornet

[versed hornet]

Lol

[knotty wind]

the only broken angle is the 60 degree angle from the goal to the top left/right, you score 99% of time with spin to the bottom

[versed hornet]

No but It was easier to play with other players before

[main elm]

higher the better?

[versed hornet]

Because i could hog the ball until a trust player get a good position

[main elm]

oh it says no order

[versed hornet]

And don't depend the bad one

[main elm]

you should order it so I can flex

[sleek pilot]

you do realise your problem can be solved by making friends?

[sleek glacier]

wait what is thst lmao

[main elm]

don't patronize me

I have no friends

[raw wraith]

we getting recognized with this one boys LOL

[knotty wind]

from where this screen comes from 😂

[raw wraith]

rematch players enjoying rematch
Meanwhile in discord:

[main elm]

previous beta was more enjoyable

[knotty wind]

are you able to provide a real statement?

[main elm]

I had fun

[raw wraith]

true

[sleek pilot]

#1363216036391948358

[main elm]

now I have mental discussions with my teammate's

more like eu

I'm scared of lfg

[raw wraith]

im ngl i made it, dont judge me ahaha

[main elm]

like I don't think I'm bad but whenever I que with people I do dumb shit

[versed hornet]

The most part im waiting a queue

And after that, we are blaming each other

[knotty wind]

that was what you were cooking? 😂 @raw wraith

[sleek glacier]

is cool and fun

[main elm]

took him a while

[sleek pilot]

youre arguing 1 person cant win a team game and say i cant make aan actual statement?

[versed hornet]

"Nice"

[main elm]

abt 2 hrs

[versed hornet]

"Nice"

"Nice"

[main elm]

"good job"

[knotty wind]

1 person cannot make a DIFFERENCE, not WIN

[main elm]

"good job"

chat restricted

[versed hornet]

Fr

[versed hornet]

That's something that i miss

[sleek pilot]

this is just not true at all

[sleek glacier]

i pinned why in my opinion individual skills are so important in this game, you can check if you want.

[sleek pilot]

ive read it - makes no sense

[versed hornet]

If you got a bench of bots It is

[versed hornet]

People still ball hogging

[sleek pilot]

if your team is terrible and youre the only good player go keeper

[knotty wind]

Against a strong team, any player "alone" cannot make anymore a difference

[versed hornet]

But now they lose It more often

[sleek pilot]

the original post is literally arguing for ball hogging?

[main elm]

technically it's good but I have rocket league mentality

[versed hornet]

But it doesn't work

People still ball hogging

[main elm]

I do mustyy flick flip reset and I win basically

I can't do that here

awful

[versed hornet]

But now the ball hog works less times

[main elm]

I love when I scream options and all my options are awful

[sleek pilot]

ah fair enough we should just ban everyone that doesnt get over 2k score in a game - full on IP ban Console Ban - Account ban

fuck it

[main elm]

I avg 10k

[versed hornet]

IF YOUR TEAM IS AWFUL THERE IS NO OPTION

[main elm]

2k is crazy low

below 4k is crime

[sleek pilot]

ok bet lets up it to 6k

bans for everyone below 6k

[knotty wind]

Since everyone is comparing to real football, 2 teams of children, 1 of them has CR7 in it... who wins?

[main elm]

Messi

CR7 is ass

and old

[knotty wind]

(or messi)

[versed hornet]

I dont even touch the ball

[sleek glacier]

cr7 team

[knotty wind]

WOW REALLY!?

[sleek glacier]

xd

[knotty wind]

I wonder about the teamplay in that team

[main elm]

well technically CR7 wins cause he's stonger

so basically we need to add Roblox stats system to upgrade points

like strength and speed

[sleek pilot]

wor you could just stop whining and become messi yourself but you wont

[versed hornet]

Lol

[sleek pilot]

play ranked - its literally sbmm

[main elm]

and unlock perks that add to those stats

so we can have builds

and team builds

and have a cool new mechanic

[knotty wind]

So, if I'm technically and mentally stronger than anyone else in a match, I deserve to lose?

[versed hornet]

Locked works like that

[thin sleet]

u can do a blade shoot it the rainbow if ur fast enough , just rainbow , double boost and shoot , no need to lob pass to do it

[sleek glacier]

In the previous beta, games were tailored around the current team. You could tell who stood out, and they were given opportunities. Now everyone feels the same, and individual skill seems to be missing.

Back to the top button:

#1377356836264607824 message

[main elm]

usually a bare feet girl with rainbow hair destroyed my team

[versed hornet]

I mean now we can see who's good passing

[knotty wind]

There's literally no reason to even train in the free mode

[main elm]

now everyone is mid or full decent team

[versed hornet]

That's real

[sleek glacier]

yea true my bad haha

[versed hornet]

Or Full horrible

[sleek pilot]

this is literally the intelligence of my teammates

[main elm]

I know my team horrible when I see tung tung tung sahur in it

or Turkish ü and stuff

[sleek pilot]

so just so im clear you would rather the devs buff a single as pect of the game rather than you playing ranked or finding friends?

[versed hornet]

I know that im going to lose when someone speaks spanish

[versed hornet]

Argentina players.

[main elm]

I always mute my teammates

rocket league habit

[knotty wind]

All my opinions come from a 5 friends premade lobbies only.

[versed hornet]

They called me monkey

[main elm]

you do look like a monke

[versed hornet]

No

But it's something about Argentina

[sleek pilot]

then that is a literal skill issue

[versed hornet]

Most of them are racist

[main elm]

you can call skill issue on everything and that's unfair cause it always correct at some point

[knotty wind]

Likely, but before even lacking skill matches were fun

[versed hornet]

And plays as a d3 player

[main elm]

is anyone here even from eu

[knotty wind]

I really want to see everyone saying today's beta is good gameplays in high elo

[main elm]

todays beta is like rocket league without boost

[versed hornet]

Bro

I tried eu servers

They suck because im SA

[main elm]

skill issue ig

[versed hornet]

200ms

Wth are you talking about

[main elm]

Click earlier

[sleek glacier]

i am

[versed hornet]

💀

[versed hornet]

💀💀💀💀

Hell nah

[main elm]

hell yea

[versed hornet]

Bros trolling

[main elm]

you are pretty low on carrots list

[sleek pilot]

Bro is arguing to buff ball hogging because his teammates are bad when he picked the teammates

that is a skill issue

[main elm]

WHEN DID I PICK MY TEAMMATES

Since when soloque is a pick and play type of team

[versed hornet]

So

[sleek pilot]

youre replying to my other conversation and making it about you ?

[versed hornet]

What should i do

[sleek pilot]

ok ig

[versed hornet]

Control my teammates?

[main elm]

which one

[sleek pilot]

go in #1365359010810953769

it is a TEAM GAME

[main elm]

There should be I in a team

[raw wraith]

AHAHAA SHHH

[main elm]

But all I can see is They Eat Ass M8

[sleek pilot]

probably cos randoms are dumb af especially with the ball hogging

but this is online gaming

[main elm]

gambling

[raw wraith]

i took a break inbetween making it 😂

[sleek pilot]

like can anyone name a single mp game where randoms are good?

[sleek glacier]

true, but I could end this civil war with two clicks haha
(I won't do it)

[ripe frost]

casuals not understanding the fact team games can have tools and options for moments of individual skill so the game doesnt turn into a 1 dimensional macro pass pass pass game play loop...

[main elm]

you getting free likes I wouldn't do it either

also someone would create copy paste post and steal your attention

[sleek glacier]

I am the general who watches from afar

[main elm]

someone like me

[sleek glacier]

someone tried

wait im linking

[sleek pilot]

Which this game still has

[sleek glacier]

yeah no shit

too many feedbacks

[ripe frost]

hardly, game is way too easy and nobody can stand out because its all 1 easy macro game play loop.

[sleek glacier]

but it's not my attention, it's the attention the game gets.

[hollow skiff]

The same casuals noy understanding that there’s a difference between a tool that gives options for individual skill and an unbalanced mechanic thag promotes neither

[sleek glacier]

yeah, thats it basically. thank you.

[sleek glacier]

but you said it's still unbalanced, right?

[ripe frost]

if you played in high elo you will see the game is still 90% passing, you dont remove tools from players to force them into 1 single play style, thats awful game design and kills any skill gap

[hollow skiff]

Ok but

They didn’t remove the toll

Also wtf

The game is a 3 day beta

There is no high Elo yet

😭😭

[sleek pilot]

mark the players

intercept the pass

[hollow skiff]

There has not been enough time to establish an actual high Elo

It’s just people who have played more rnaked games as of now

[ripe frost]

yes this was a thing in the previous beta it was and still is a thing, what is your point?

[sleek glacier]

lot of passing is ok, but not forcing everyone to do it. every match was unique and different, now you can't adapt to what is always the same.

[hollow skiff]

Also there will be inherently a normalized play style in high Elo

[sleek glacier]

high elo on the beta statistics i think

[hollow skiff]

Welcome to competitive in any game

Drivbling is still in the game also

They didn’t remove anything besides the one not necessary move

[sleek glacier]

but as you said before is unbalanced. is not an equal implementation

[hollow skiff]

Yeah it wasn’t balanced last beta

But saying they took away a tool

Is just incorrect

[sleek glacier]

and so is this beta

[hollow skiff]

Yeah

Again

[ripe frost]

there was ranked last beta and i hit max rank, also people were playing tournys too so yes you can get an early idea of how you should be playing the game and like i said in these higher elos people wasnt just trying to dribble past everybody, it was a non issue so nerfing it to the ground is just completely bad game design

[sleek pilot]

correct me if im wrong here but if the game is high elo shouldnt they be able to counter what youre doing or are you arguing against that?

[hollow skiff]

Doesn’t mean they took away a tool

Dude 3 days is not enough

Hust because there were tourneys

[sleek pilot]

what changes did they make

[hollow skiff]

Does not immediately confirm high Elo

[sleek pilot]

how is it nerfed into the ground

tell me the differences

[knotty wind]

@sleek pilot what rank are you?

[sleek glacier]

as i said, people just needed time to understand how to best use that mechanic without losing the ball and making the team lose the advantage. but if they didn't give them time there's little that can be done.

[ripe frost]

stamina nerfed, makes dribbling past people awful with that change alone, dribbling animations also got locked and you cant cancel them mid animation to do cool stuff, movement on the ball clunky compared to before, and shooting magnus effect spin nerfed by like 30%

skill gap gutted

[sleek pilot]

so they balanced it

[sleek pilot]

does it matter?

[ripe frost]

if removing a skill gap from the game means balance to then we are just looking for 2 different games

[knotty wind]

a ton.

[sleek pilot]

ok so lets say im average

my opinion holds more weight than yours cos im part of a bigger player base

[knotty wind]

that's why you don't see differences on average elo

[hollow skiff]

Bro

Can we stop using the word skill gap and ceiling I correvtly

[knotty wind]

passing ONLY is easy vs low elo players

[hollow skiff]

Also the tourney arguement for high Elo preview is just not accurate the main difference between the average ranked and the tourneys last beta

[sleek pilot]

werent you arguing your teammates were bad in these high elo games tho?

[ripe frost]

im using it correctly, anybody who thinks slowing down the pace of the game and removing individual tools to express skill is an increase in skill is on serious cope

[hollow skiff]

Is that most of them were comming and in parties

Wel again

They didn’t remove stuff buddy

[ripe frost]

remove nerf

same shit

[hollow skiff]

No it’s not

[sleek pilot]

they havent removed tools you just cant abuse them

[hollow skiff]

The fact you said that

[knotty wind]

because you need kinda perfection to make plays vs good teams, which is unlikely, and the game becomes boring on both teams

[hollow skiff]

Proves yohr the one coping at this point

A removal and a nerf as so far from each other

[sleek glacier]

yeah but they butchered a mechanic

almost same as removing stuff

[knotty wind]

headers are totally removed

[sleek glacier]

now it's useless

[sleek pilot]

no they havent???

[ripe frost]

why am i even trying to argue with people that are clearly casuals and never hit max rank or made money off any game

lmaooooo im done

[sleek pilot]

youre making money from a beta?

💀

[sleek glacier]

he's talking about dribbling headers, not passing

[sleek pilot]

on MnK its legit a button and your guy will do a header no matter what

[frigid ether]

Still pure cinema.
Second day in a row, single Discord topic... 😉

[knotty wind]

what are you saying bro... you can't juggle anymore with your head, no matter what

[ripe frost]

enjoy your passing simulator where after 2 weeks of gameplay everybody will be at the exact same skill level, enjoy boys! 🙂

[knotty wind]

you can only pass or lob

[sleek glacier]

[sleek pilot]

whats your esports name mr money bags

[hollow skiff]

Liam is the prime example

Of a poopoo head

Bro thinks max rank in a beta

Actually matters

Half of the people dknt even okah ranked

Casue the queue times are too long for them

[knotty wind]

It does NOT matter, but shows you how the game transforms after you get to match actually good people

[sleek glacier]

I think Liam is right but he doesn't know how to express his point of view. It is true that the game will become boring in 2 weeks. It is now in 2 days, imagine in 2 weeks.

for you is it fun? good. but it is not the same for everyone as you can clearly see.

[sleek pilot]

morale of the story is you guys are using the same tactic over n over again trying to farm elo claiming the game is boring

[knotty wind]

Likely the game will be more complex in terms of actions/animations so that new stuff comes up on release, but if not, 1 month at max and everyone will basically be at the same level.
Technically speaking.

[knotty wind]

What's your tactic? Stay still, pass the ball on the free guy, he gets knocked down, run down hill, stay still, pass on the free guy, pray to score?

[sleek glacier]

tactic? what tactics? at the moment the game is pass right, pass left, lose the ball, defend, counter them, pass, shoot and then loop.

there is no tactic at all

[knotty wind]

we are so goddamn in sync

[sleek glacier]

damn that's crazy

[knotty wind]

🇮🇹

[hollow skiff]

Welcome to fucking soccer bro

LMAO

[sleek glacier]

🫂

[hollow skiff]

Welcome to the loop of also basketball

And volleyball

Matte of fact

Take any sport with ball in it

And it’s basically the same formula

Maybe you just don’t find sports games fun

[sleek pilot]

ok so you want a player to be able to run from their box to theirs no issues

[knotty wind]

I don't remember mario sports mix basketball was like that

[hollow skiff]

CD

[frigid ether]

Also I do love the idea of people crying about faking a defender who stays in front oh him.

While standing dribble has a very low success chance in real football and all amazing highlight reels are from full speed fakes, which You cna still perfectly execute with tap mechanics.

But there is much, much more highlights that if You start dancing from static movement, defender just pokes the ball and laugh at You.

And glad that this also relate to Rematch dribble

[hollow skiff]

bro got me

[sleek glacier]

It's an arcade game bro, it's boring at the moment. FC25 has a much better gameplay loop, every match is actually different. Rocket League, same.
IN FOOTBALL THERE ARE MORE THAN JUST PASSES.
IN ARCADE FOOTBALL EVEN MORE.

[knotty wind]

"You start dancing from static movement", that's stupid dribbling. We are not talking about that

[sleek pilot]

if you dunno how to fake a keeper thats on you

[knotty wind]

Have fun faking an high elo gk

[sleek glacier]

but this is not real life football

you get my point?

[sleek pilot]

its a football game

[hollow skiff]

Arena soccer

[frigid ether]

You sure? How long You are reading this? Most cries just about that

[hollow skiff]

Is the gimmick

Not Yk

[sleek pilot]

if you want complex go play rainbow six

[hollow skiff]

Blue lock the game bro

[sleek pilot]

how complex is rocket league?

[sleek glacier]

arcade football game, again.

[frigid ether]

While full speed taping dribble still works if You are skilled enough

[sleek glacier]

pretty complex

[sleek pilot]

how so

[hollow skiff]

If you want to fulfill some power fantasy of soccer go okah some shitty Roblox blue lock game

[sleek glacier]

hard to master mechanics

[hollow skiff]

It’s just mechanical moves

[knotty wind]

Guys goddamn, FC2025 has much more dynamism

[hollow skiff]

Good idea go okah fc2025 then

[knotty wind]

Vulnerable != fked

[sleek pilot]

the intelligence is crazy honestly

[sleek glacier]

rule 0: a game should be fun

[sleek pilot]

youre complaining high elo games were everyone syncs you cant do certain tactics against them

thats literally how ranked works

in every single game ever made

[sleek glacier]

not me bro

[hollow skiff]

I mean plenty of people are finding it fun

[knotty wind]

ranked does not mean the games becomes 1-dimensional

wtf bro

[sleek pilot]

then stop complaining about elo and high ranks and play quick match

[hollow skiff]

Ymmm

[sleek pilot]

do you not understand what metas are?

[hollow skiff]

But it does start following trends at high Elo

Have you ever seen a high Elo game

Ever?

[knotty wind]

High elo is only waiting the opponent makes a trash pass and then gg

[sleek glacier]

it wasnt me complaining about ranked

[sleek pilot]

every high elo game is waiting for the opponent to make a mistake???

[sleek glacier]

im complaining about the game feels

[knotty wind]

Current meta is chess?

[hollow skiff]

Ok so mad Joe

Try olaying more than one video game ever

[sleek glacier]

just do a counter feedback and try to make it pop, lets see what people think, is so sad i cant do polls.

[hollow skiff]

And then try olaying rematch or discussing high Elo trending

[sleek pilot]

youre arguing against logic - "im playing high elo and its just passing" ye cos passing to the guys thats open is the most logical choice

[knotty wind]

and the most boring one too

[sleek pilot]

"why cant i rainbow flick 2 guys in high elo >:("

[knotty wind]

who's talking about rainbow flicking?

rainbow flicking is freakin occasional

[sleek glacier]

i was but in 4000 messages there is more than one topic discussed.

[frigid ether]

You know that what You consider boring is exciting for someone else?

And there is 150k separate opinions playing atm?

[sleek pilot]

my bad

[sleek glacier]

and ofc you know the same can be reversed to you

[knotty wind]

Sure, that's right. But who asked them to change the game since the first beta was beloved from literally everyone?

[sleek pilot]

"why cant i dribble past 2 guys in high elo 😠 "

[hollow skiff]

Not true

We can’t just start lying

[sleek pilot]

youre arguing fun and ranked at the same time

[hollow skiff]

Did you read any messages form the first beta

[frigid ether]

And this Discord is full of both sides. Either those who enjoy the more tactical gameplay now, and those who want invincibile dribble spam beeing bought back

[sleek glacier]

It's one of the first things I said. It's obvious that there are different opinions, they just have to try to please everyone.

[hollow skiff]

It had just as much complaints just about different things

[main elm]

what we complaing about now

and which side is winning

[knotty wind]

My point was always to balance both gameplays, not to kill one of them

[sleek pilot]

it is literally impossible to please everyone and thats an bad expectation to set

[frigid ether]

How was the gym? 😉

[main elm]

cool

as always

[sleek pilot]

they have balanced it

[main elm]

I got a fresh haircut

[hollow skiff]

I wouldn’t say that

[knotty wind]

No, they don't, they butchered their own gameplay

[hollow skiff]

Iti also wouldn’t say that

[sleek pilot]

you only play ranked ?

[hollow skiff]

Yohr both on the opposite side

But the balance is wrong in both of those sides

[main elm]

balance went so well game doesn't feel fun now, more like dull

[knotty wind]

What's the goal to play casual?

[main elm]

it's only fun when you get tiki taka passes

cause that's the only way to score now

[sleek glacier]

yep thats it basically

[brittle hemlock]

Dribbles only work against bad players now

[knotty wind]

There are no mind-games

[brittle hemlock]

I can go quickplay and dribble 1v5 easily but in high rank when there is a good player you will almost never be able to dribble through

[frigid ether]

Bad dribblers only work against bad players now.

Here, I fixed it for You

[main elm]

everyone so patient there

[knotty wind]

bad dribblers don't work at all

good dribblers don't work against good defenders

[hollow skiff]

Holy moly

[frigid ether]

If You teach Your high Elo, Your opposing defenders is equally skilled.

[hollow skiff]

Dawg there is no high rank

There’s 2 million registers

[knotty wind]

equally skilled does not means it nullifies a gameplay mechanic

[hollow skiff]

But only 165k ppl playing

[main elm]

ONLY?

[frigid ether]

So its not the dribble problem its skill problem. And if You cant eaisly outdribble someone on same level, thats absolutely fine and expected!

[hollow skiff]

If not even 1/10 of the actively wanting to okah playerbase

[main elm]

THATS A LOT YOU KNOW

[hollow skiff]

Can’t even play ranked

[main elm]

165k is massive playerbase

[hollow skiff]

Being “high Elo”

[sleek pilot]

can i ask what you guys thinks works against good players?

[hollow skiff]

Does not mean squat

[main elm]

rocket league has like idk 30k

[hollow skiff]

I’m not saying it’s not big

I’m just saying like

[main elm]

I haven't check cause their asses hidden playercount

[brittle hemlock]

Only passing works nothing else and that's so boring

[hollow skiff]

Trying to claim your a high Elo and skill player

[knotty wind]

you can't out dribble a good defender because you can't mind game anymore, the animations are too slow and janky to pick off a good player

[sleek pilot]

players get marked in high elo

[knotty wind]

i do not talk about iframes

[sleek pilot]

now what?

[hollow skiff]

In a game where a majority of the playebase hasn’t even had the chance to learn the game

[main elm]

I love this chat

no one ever is happy

[knotty wind]

so once everyone learnt the game, what it becomes?

[brittle hemlock]

Yeah defender literally just has to stand in front of you and wait for you to make a move and since animations are so slow they can counter any move easily

[main elm]

darky called me cute

he flirtingggg

[hollow skiff]

What dya fucken think bud

[sleek glacier]

[pure torrent]

It's only playeble in 4v4 now. Try it

[hollow skiff]

Yeah if everyone knows or has played the game for long enoigh

[main elm]

Making tackle animation have miss penalty would literally make game more about skill

[hollow skiff]

And yohr in a high Elo

Yohr high fucken Elo

[knotty wind]

I think the game slowly dies in this state when everyone becomes mid+

[sleek pilot]

we should remove interceptions cos it has the cance to remove a core strat from the game

[hollow skiff]

Uh

Me when any game ever

Me when I don’t play video games

[main elm]

skill ceiling is kinda low atm

[brittle hemlock]

Yeah a short stunlock would work

[main elm]

exacly

now post it as idea and wait for people to call you gae

[hollow skiff]

Like most games that have a competence mode

Have a majority of the player base sit around the same rnak

[main elm]

and skill issue*

[knotty wind]

EXACTLY it's just a matter of balance

[steep gulch]

Or Make dribbling have a lower animation delay

[hollow skiff]

Welcome to the world of ranked video games

[knotty wind]

I fail to dribble, perfect, I get punished... but if you fail to tackle, you must be punished

currently is not like that

[main elm]

dribble would be fine, all you need is a ankle breaker for defender so he can't just spam tackle

[sleek pilot]

i like this idea

[brittle hemlock]

Whoever played previous beta and say this beta is better is just trolling

[main elm]

no fkin way I united 5 people

[versed hornet]

Fr

[main elm]

where my trophy at

[versed hornet]

Specially by tackles

[sleek pilot]

being passed around the pitch cos it cant be dribbled

[earnest delta]

The grand ambassador

[sleek glacier]

🏆

[knotty wind]

Because if I say "balance" I'm a high elo boy crying. If you talk about mechanics someone don't sleep anymore

[sleek pilot]

your arguments were just bad

[sleek glacier]

btw we're talking about balancing the game from day 0 of this feedback.

[knotty wind]

Bro you just read what you want to read

You just skip the obvious stuff

[steep gulch]

But after talking there is a decently long delay to change direction I believe a speed change when sliding would be more appropriate (a slower slide tacklebbecause slide tackling and sprint speed is pretty close)

[versed hornet]

Sure, the point of the discussion i s that, a defender can spot you all the way

[versed hornet]

Without penalty

[brittle hemlock]

Too bad devs will just do their own thing regardless of what we think about the gameplay

[knotty wind]

Jumping a slide tackle is pretty easy

[main elm]

I'll just make another thread and ya all can praise me there

[versed hornet]

So dribbling isnt effective

[frigid ether]

Bullshit. Taping speed didnt change at all.

[knotty wind]

Standing tackle is troublesome

[hollow skiff]

I like how they said

[knotty wind]

How do you tap someone in front of you?

[hollow skiff]

They didn’t change basically anything for movement

And people are like

Yup the rainbow flick feels slower

So it’s got to be slower

[knotty wind]

That's a huge lie

[hollow skiff]

A mod

Literally confirmed

But ok

[fiery jetty]

If you’re talking about slide tackles yeah but standing tackles are easy to bait and get by. Maybe they should make it after a slide tackle you have less momentum?

[frigid ether]

False.

Tap animation didnt change at all. Full sprint dribble works 100% as before.

Only change they made is that they cuf off iframes from dribble stance

[knotty wind]

Confirmed or not is not like that pad at hands

[hollow skiff]

Oh so

It’s off feeling

You can sense it through the controller

[steep gulch]

Or maybe a delay between slide tackle to sprinting as there is none

[hollow skiff]

Speed racer over here

[frigid ether]

If You are both standing and Your brain says thats the time to dribble, thats You the problem, not the game.

[versed hornet]

If you don't want a speed race, nerf the sergio ramos players

[main elm]

I am really bad at promoting my ideas

[versed hornet]

Also tackle speed boost

[steep gulch]

Yes

[frigid ether]

And if someone is standing still when I full speed tap, i dont, he will be long gone behind after single tap.

[steep gulch]

Slow down the sliding tackle that’s the main issue

[sleek glacier]

lmao

[main elm]

I'll say darky is cool if you upvote me

[knotty wind]

@frigid ether can you stop talking about stuff I didn't bring up? Who's talking about lobbing the ball? Also, how do you tap dribble someone marking you in the front

[sleek pilot]

You were literally arguing to buff dribbling so you can go 1v2 and 1v3

[hollow skiff]

Tap diagonal

[knotty wind]

Lob dribbling works only sideways

[hollow skiff]

Or sideways

[sleek glacier]

you are cool

[hollow skiff]

Da hell

[main elm]

Nerf depending instead of buffing dribbling

[hollow skiff]

So called high Elo man

Doesn’t know how da game works

Holy moly

[knotty wind]

Have you played the last beta or you sleepin?

[frigid ether]

But thats dribble, man.
Tap at speed is actually dribbling

[main elm]

you didn't upvote my thread you fake

[sleek glacier]

another thread?

[frigid ether]

https://tenor.com/view/lionel-messi-lionel-andrés-messi-cuccittini-footballer-kick-gif-15131433

[main elm]

yeah the one Abt balancing 1v1

the honor system is a must have tbh too

[frigid ether]

Thats dribble. You tap the ball and pass opponent on directional tap

[main elm]

like sometimes my mates are real homies

[frigid ether]

https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-fails-gif-25154108

[sleek pilot]

ive played it - thats what your whole argumnent is

[frigid ether]

Thats not dribble. Thats beeing stupid

[versed hornet]

But on rematch Messi has cancer and cant run 10m

[main elm]

then upvote my post

not like it's gonna change anything

[frigid ether]

Bullshit again. Full stamina easily cover half the 5v5 field even without extra effort

With extra effort You can sprint from box to box

[hard kelp]

bro we just need more passers like you 🙂 (a tournament bot would be a bonus xd )

[versed hornet]

You considering that we are running straight

[sleek pilot]

idid

[main elm]

YAY

[sleek pilot]

ball hogger fr

[main elm]

MY IDEAS ARE BEING APPRECIATED

[frigid ether]

If You are running staigh no wodner You cant dribble anyone :d

Again, You are problem, not the game.

[versed hornet]

Ball hogger that passes the ball isnt a ball hogger

[sleek pilot]

then how you out of stamina

[main elm]

darky you taking all the attention

[versed hornet]

Now i have that problem

[frigid ether]

Change direction, flick the ball with tap. Harder than 'LB+A' for a stupid rainbow, but well... Gitgud

[versed hornet]

Before i didn't

And stamina before wasnt infinite

If the defenders is good you will spend all your stamina

[versed hornet]

Just trying to pass 1 guy

[versed hornet]

And pass back to gk

And gk will hog the ball

Miss the pass

And sell the game

[frigid ether]

You already refunded, so whats the deal? 😉

And Yes im sorry that You cant pass a good defender

Good player vs good player = stalemate

Just get better

Or accept someone else is good too.

[sleek pilot]

nah i wnt OP dribbling

[sleek glacier]

[ornate harness]

Hey my friend good to see you 😄

[hollow skiff]

I think the main difference probably in the people who think dirvbling is dead

Is that a lot of the people who think drivbling is dead

Probably think the rainbow flick is the only way to get past a slide tackle

Or past a defender

[frigid ether]

Can I get LB+Y shrinking goal to the size of a dog house too? 😉

[sleek pilot]

I want the option to have an offside rule too but only when I say something

[frigid ether]

Like make the goal smaller for a second.
Its not real football after all as they say ;D

Or lets add super shot!
GK are op, so maybe lets add a shot that if You hold both LT and RT, the ball would MAGICALLY PASS THROUGH the players and blew GK away 5 meters.

That would be Epic! I remember Captain Tsubasa was able to do it, why cant i?

[main elm]

I brought peace on the chat for whole 30 sec and ya all still arguing

oh NVM it was dead for 6 min

[sleek pilot]

How about triple x followed by rb lb will just remove their keeper from the game entirely

Or what about a vote kick that you can only do on the opposite team

[frigid ether]

Love it!
Maybe Sue will love it too?

[main elm]

uhhhhh?

I had games that had basically 3 attackers in my team and theirs 1v3 back and forth

[sleek pilot]

Probably

Let's do it

[main elm]

you didnt answe my weather question

[sleek pilot]

What was the question

[main elm]

in my thread

chat kinda died

[versed hornet]

ngl

i've play with a good team

and looks way better

the ping aswell seens better

but the slides still a bit op

[knotty wind]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7fMIJEhj5Oo

good luck reproducing this once Ronaldinho drop

[brittle hemlock]

They nerf dribbling to the ground and sell ronaldinho skin

[knotty wind]

Ronaldinho ball hogger ofc

[versed hornet]

they could add some new moves

like feint

[main elm]

OFC GAME GLITCHED

I CANT TOUCH THE BALL ;D

[knotty wind]

Hope so, it was more a gag about how sluggish the movement is, instead of snappier

[ornate harness]

I want 8v8

[main elm]

11V11 OR REFUND

[ornate harness]

I want battle royal

oh wait it's already since 1 player crashes after each goal 😄

[main elm]

top game

[frigid ether]

Every scored goal executes player with lowest point count!

[ornate harness]

Then you do 1v1 battle for goulag

[frigid ether]

Yesss!

[knotty wind]

I only see actual teamplay there, what's wrong?

[main elm]

so we gonna skip the part when my goalie clips through ball

[knotty wind]

it's clear that you got scored because the pass was perfect and they deserved the goal, since dribbling is removed

[main elm]

are we seeing the same thing here

[frigid ether]

Thats the iframes on dribble :/

[raw wraith]

thats bs for sure

bro outplayed him 100%

[frigid ether]

They reduced it instead of completely removing them 😦

[knotty wind]

That's the perfect pass iframe

[main elm]

THERE WAS NO DRIBBLE

BRO JUST TOOK THE BALL FROM MY HANDS

[knotty wind]

You clearly don't see it bro

That's a lob dribble, he is messi don't you dare

[raw wraith]

we are being sarcastic bro relax, we can see its bs xD

[frigid ether]

For a brief moment he pressed LT for dribble stance. And exploited the iframes

[main elm]

IM LOSING MY MIND

THIS GAME IS MAKING ME FEEL LIKE A IDIOT

AND I CANT EVEN TELL MY TEAMMATES WHAT HAPPENED

CAUSE THERE IS NO CHAT

[knotty wind]

Bro you just can't defend wtf

Get better team

[main elm]

I WILL STRANGLE YOU

[frigid ether]

Its called

[knotty wind]

You don't understand, the meta are passes. He got the perfect pass. He has to score

[frigid ether]

Gitgud!

[main elm]

IM SORRY " SKILL ISSUE" FITS HERE

IT FUKIN FITS EVERYWHERE

CLEARLY MY BAD FOR TRYING TO DEFEND

[knotty wind]

Surely it didnt fit your hands

[main elm]

THAT ISNT EVEN DEBATABLE

IT WAS STRAIGHT AT HIM

[raw wraith]

you should have used the forward dive punch an gone for his nuggets instead of the ball

[knotty wind]

You clearly should lfg

[frigid ether]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-tsubasa-rise-of-new-champions-gif-18228576

[main elm]

yeah sorry i lost against "Isagis Direct shot"

"direct shot to my goalie that decided he didnt cared enough"

[versed hornet]

it happens all the time

it is not an exception

happens all the time

[main elm]

ive had more glithces than hours atm

[frigid ether]

Sue!
Where did You go?
We had so many cool ideas to fix the game for You!

[knotty wind]

let's be real, this stuff 100% will be fixed, that's kinda ok now

[main elm]

in 2 weeks?

[knotty wind]

what will not be fixed, is skill issue

[versed hornet]

all matches

[main elm]

you know how hard it is to code things like that?

[versed hornet]

literally all matches ive played

[main elm]

itsnot like 100% always bug

its like 10%

and that 10% is like 1 line of code somwhere in 14k of lines

[knotty wind]

I'm a software developer, not a game one, but ye kinda hard to pinpoint, but fixable ofc

I should really end my today's tasks instead of crying about my skill issues here

[raw wraith]

but we can agree that stuff like that will be fixable and most likely (and they do seem committed) fixed with priority

[main elm]

technically everything is fixable

but at this point some of the glitches are easier to rewrite the whole code rather than look for cause

and even that might not help since unreal engine is awful

[sleek glacier]

dont harass @main elm he's my bro