#improved reforger ragdolls

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hushed crest
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reforger has god tier graphics and physics, with one glaring exception — ragdolls. this mod finally gives body physics the makeover they deserve.

bodies now have more joints (hands, feet, shoulders etc.), a full range of motion, and tweaked properties — friction is high so expect good tumbles, and bodies are heavy now; just try running someone over, the extra weight not only feels brutal but also makes running down enemies a riskier move as a driver.

download: https://reforger.armaplatform.com/workshop/64594B4F6C4E9718-improvedreforgerragdolls
mod is also available for my experimental homies + both versions work w any character mods

see #enf_showroom message for clips (now outdated)
for updated clips see #1329042395039531008 message

bear in mind that this doesnt contain any scripts (for now) so theres still no bullet force on bodies or anything, thats just how reforger is

Arma Reforger
improved reforger ragdolls - Arma Reforger

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green turtle
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Are you able to make them heavier? Feels a bit light weight wise

sharp depot
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They should improved in 1.3 did you check?

steep cloak
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Looking good. Just did a test in Experimental, dunno if this is something, which can be tweaked from your side or maybe it is a bug in the wall 3d model?
Another question, is it possible to do, that the bodies still catch bullets? The gear seems to stop bullets now, after death.

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upbeat lava
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very weird after an explosion

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calm belfry
cursive badger
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Interesting idea! Just in my opinion, they look a little too… jelly-like? Not sure what you’d change to adjust that

hushed crest
stone ingot
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Crash server

faint rivet
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IRL bodies seem to instantly collapse only with headshots or any other significant instant brain damage due to abrupt disruption of control signals, otherwise there should be at least some animation as conscious person would still reflexively react to falling

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also adding small random horizontal force to upper torso/head during hit could help counter copypaste falling, but i don't know whether it is worth the hassle

hushed crest
# faint rivet IRL bodies seem to instantly collapse only with headshots or any other significa...

yeah i have a feeling the real meat and potatoes lies in the realm of custom scripts to do stuff like this

as it is reforger just instantly drops a limp body so i might see if i can implement some subtle active ragdolls, nothing too OTT

the idea i have right now is to just make ragdolls spawn in with a higher stiffness value, then quickly ramp the stiffness down after a couple seconds
this would make bodies go down with some grace before going completely limp

upbeat lava
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also when will bloodlust return to reforger :(

hushed crest
blissful flame
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The effects I mean

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blissful flame
analog tiger
blissful flame
analog tiger
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Those are cool

blissful flame
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Would make firefights so much more intense

upbeat lava
hushed crest
upbeat lava
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sorry if i seem to always say it isnt perfect 😭

hushed crest
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its chill
while i was at it i tried to fix the 'light' look
turns out its tied to mass, but get this; the higher the mass, the slower the body falls
so to make bodies fall faster id have to give the bodies very little mass, which kinda defeats one of the points of the mod
enfusion physics is cooked dawg

upbeat lava
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is there a way to make bullet impacts add more force to the ragdoll? maybe do that so they fall in the direction the bullet goes

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they still seem to fall over on their backs like before :(

hushed crest
upbeat lava
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me when i pay 35€ on a game that barely has no features

hushed crest
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fact

upbeat lava
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and when i want something from devs i get a "theres mods for that"

hushed crest
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implement basic features and fixes before the devs do
power move tbh

upbeat lava
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true...

blissful flame
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need

hallow jackal
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He crashed my Server 😔😔

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I sad, because i loved the mod

undone obsidian
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Yea this mod is bugging my server out. It's super sick though

hushed crest
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just tested the mod online with a friend and the situation is weird
he hosted a modded server with the ragdoll mod and it worked fine, but player deaths crashed him with an "illegal read" error
then he hosted vanilla but with just the ragdoll mod and again it worked, but this time player deaths lagged his game into the shitter instead of outright crashing him
unconscious player ragdolls also lowered his framerate but not as dramatically as dead ones
i think something about modded player ragdolls is spamming errors hundreds of times every second and i cant do much about it on my end so i guess just dont die online
despite this, player ragdolls in singleplayer work perfectly
bohemia pls fix

hushed crest
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did some more testing
player ragdolls only work when the server host dies, but if youre not the host and you die, it crashes the server with an "overflow in AABB: object removed from simulation" error
this is why it never crashes if you die in singleplayer, because only non-host player deaths crash it
the crash is caused by the addition of extra joints, modding ragdolls but not adding extra joints doesnt crash at all
this is not something i can fix and is a problem with enfusion, spam the devs about it

undone obsidian
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Interesting

acoustic linden
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I mean you could probably contact them about it they seem fairly receptive on dealing with engine issues

hushed crest
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will do soon cause this bug is very destructive to any server owners that dont know about it
man i make my first dumb little mod for arma and end up unearthing a major fault with the engine that wrecks everyone's shit lmao
best possible way to kick off your modding career

acoustic linden
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Not the first probably not the last. New engine new problems and all that.

hallow prairie
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Im sure the devs will be happy to fix the issue lol. Probably not the wort way to start off.

round acorn
round acorn
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Did you recently update this mod? I see an update for it, Wondering if it's good to go for server owners?

undone obsidian
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@hushed crest

hushed crest
# round acorn Did you recently update this mod? I see an update for it, Wondering if it's good...

nah my bad on that, still broken in servers sadly, the update was just a few tweaks i made based on feedback and i completely forgot to mention em here

on the bright side i did submit a ticket about the crash so devs may look into it at some point, fingers crossed

and just for server owners i also made a version of the mod that doesnt crash servers, tested and working
it looks worse than the main mod but its better than nothing https://reforger.armaplatform.com/workshop/6464FBC54EA75911-jah

no proper name or pic yet cause it was a test mod and i didnt expect it to actually work lmao

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potent spoke
acoustic linden
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Oh yeah now there's some verified combat footage from a sketchy news site in Bhutan

green turtle
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green turtle
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Im not either lol just a suggestion

potent spoke
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i’ll give it a try

zenith jetty
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The ragdolls are sick, it's a little too realistic, lowkey freaky 😂

round acorn
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nvrmind i found it, had to hit the test tab

hushed crest
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some days ago now, i submitted a detailed bug report about the engine issue preventing me from fixing the mod crashing servers

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and the feedback i got was awesome

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anyway heres a fun clip
all we got for now til an actual dev gets on the issue, sorry lads but theres nothing i can do about it myself

round acorn
latent wigeon
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Eh it is what it is
Made a great mod I love using it in solo GM anyways
My server doesn't like it cause we run hardcore medical and it makes the medics job a great deal harder

austere meteor
rotund sundial
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They are not for me. Well except the MH gaming gore mod thing it’s pretty ass compared to the improved blood effects

austere meteor
hushed crest
upbeat lava
rotund sundial
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What if I was a rat wrapped in a taco

hallow prairie
rotund sundial
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Die

hallow prairie
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I want to say things to you that im not allowed to

rotund sundial
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Oh god

undone obsidian
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@hushed crest what did the new updates do?

hushed crest
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just small tweaks to stop bodies getting stuck in terrain as much

if theres any news thats more exciting ill be sure to drop a message in here

feral quest
jagged ingot
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Hi. Unfortunatly, your mod crases the server. Please remove it from the workshop at get it working, before publishing it. Thanks.

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I killed my player stats in overthrow. Your mod as broken as a mod can get...

green turtle
jagged ingot
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OK, might be a conflict with overthrow then? I fall true the map, server crased in like 3 minutes using this mod. I just think you should test mods better before publishing them.

green turtle
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Brother the man has taken the time to make a free mod if you’re adament about this go test for yourself maybe he is able to make a fix if you provide the specific mods that make it crash

latent wigeon
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Plus he's already said it's not to friendly to servers and is mostly a Solo GM mod so it was a "Use at your own discretion" mod

potent spoke
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check conflicting mods before complaining like a karen

green turtle
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Now you’re being a dick cmon mate 😂

potent spoke
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yes i am, i agree but when he was told a possible fix he just kept it going, so i did it back

green turtle
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Nobody is going to get better manners if they’re met with that

potent spoke
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you see it too often in threats with players getting at modders to fix their stuff and it’s more of a demand than an ask, so they are met with the same rudeness same people who grow up never being told no

green turtle
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Can’t be bothered to go deep into it man but like I said being rude back will not change anything, there is no need to talk down to anyone regardless of how silly they might be

jagged ingot
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Thanks for the feedback, didn't intend to be rude (or at least not that rude), just frustrated, as I nearly lost my player save. Also, I think its great if someone comes up with improving the ragdolls, becaus in Vanilla there a lot of problems with them. Just saying, if problems occur, it would not be bad to make this transparent for everyone. The mod description on Arma Workbench gives no information about the status as WIP or the problems, that could arrise, using this. So I think I had my reasons to complain.

potent spoke
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i only play solo so i’ve not had to experience it on servers

austere meteor
hushed crest
green turtle
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Didn’t see it

jagged ingot
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Thanks, I have shrinks in my nearer social group.

jagged ingot
hushed crest
potent spoke
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does this mean your next project is this hat?

jagged ingot
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he is taking the hat (German expression for "going away")

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German "Er nimmt seinen Hut"

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Thats what he does, I guess...

blissful flame
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“May”? I thought you said it happens everytime a non host is killed

remote flint
stable trench
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What sound mod?

austere meteor