Allow ragdolls to remain as they fall for unconscious players

[lament sage]

It appears when a player is knocked out he automatically rolls over. It would be cool if the ragdoll would remain exactly as it is so a dead player would look the same as a knocked out player, that would help with confusing the attacker on whether the target is dead or not.

for example I have seen players ragdoll from a crouching position then leaning against a wall next to them when dead. It would be cool if knocked out players would remain in the same position until they wake up.

[vernal kite]

that or add more than one unconscious position for players to be in so you can't just pin point tell whos alive and whos not from range

One for on the back, one for on the stomach, one for each side

[hoary verge]

There already are more unconscious poses (unused) but there will always be some kind of a flinch even if there are 100 poses.
The only solution for this is that when you drop unconscious you would stay in that "ragdoll" position until you wake up or die.
Make it so that there is no automatic transition from ragdoll to uncon pose, but someone had to interact with the body to move it into the treatmen/recovery position on the back, just like in real life.

[lament sage]

I think they could keep the ragdoll as it fall, and then let medics target the limbs, because the medic animation is not that detailed

[hoary verge]

In some ragdoll positions it is impossible to interact with every limb because of Arma Physics.
And in real life you would position the patient into a treatment pose anyways.
They should also add a proper dragging function while the patient is in ragdoll, if the physics engine does not shit its pants while doing that.

[lament sage]

I think players can aim for any limb they want and the system would work, the game probably uses a traceline from the camera to what limb he is looking at.

[hoary verge]

Not if it is glitched inside another limb or object...
And still, in real life you do not treat the wounded while they are in a spagetti ragdoll position

[velvet lantern]

Trying to interact with them the way the game works now is a pain just one more reason we need an ace medical style ui

[lament sage]

I would not agree. Any ui that turns 3d interaction into a 2d ui should be avoided

because then gameplay is a text adventure

[velvet lantern]

i agree it should be avoided but with current tech its just not possible to make everything work well as a 3d interaction