EVERON EXTENSION BY DG 4MMR

[gritty fable]

I hate to bust your 8 month bubble man but, #enfusion_generic message

[dull hazel]

It might still be fine, there is a difference between copying and pasting arland to it and adding more islands created by him entirely

[gritty fable]

The heightmap is stored in binarized data and the only way to get it is hacky. The use of the extracted data is irrelevant. I.E. it doesn't matter if you're adding another map to it or just adding custom islands. Just the process of getting the data isn't allowed. Meaning you can't release mods with data that you can only get "illegally".

[dense cove]

Look if I get confirmation this isn't allowed I'll remove it and throw in my towel but this is the first I've heard of this. I confirmed with others before attempting to modify terrain and from what we found we were okay.

Hi btw 🙂

[dense cove]

This would suck like alot.

[gritty fable]

I don't think you'll get the opportunity to remove it. You'll probably get banned. That's why I bothered letting you know in the first place. When I found out how to alter the height maps, I was reluctant to tell people because it was a gray area of "legality" but, I did tell a few (3) people, who obviously told others when they promised not to.

[dense cove]

Great. I'll remove it tonight when I get home....

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[gritty fable]

If you don't wanna remove it, don't. I'm just letting you know that's the guy in charge of everything related to modding said it isn't allowed. You may want to look over the tos that they had us re-accept with the last update. I think they included things regarding this on the tos update that we all didn't read lol.

[dense cove]

I'll look into it, I may just take it down until I can confirm. I'm not looking to lose my account over it. I dumped a ton of time and effort into this but thats my own problem. I may just try to make my own map from scratch.

[gritty flower]

I take that back, it took me to the wrong msg lmao

I don't wanna lose this map I fucking love it, I don't understand why they wouldn't allow that anyway

Before my Milsim switched over to halo mods this was our main map, the spawns how it's all set up it's fucking awesome, zelik your killing me man 😂

[gritty fable]

I'd rather someone not get banned because they didn't bother reading the updated tos that they clicked "okay" on.

[dense cove]

He's just trying to help. I'll likely make a new Everon scenario with most of the same stuff minus the Terrain and map editing and I'll just add stuff like I did before someone sent me the unlocked world file.

[gritty flower]

Yeah true, just seems like a dumb tos imo, it would suck a hell of a lot more if you were banned if zelik didn't tell you. We have lost too many amazing mods recently due to TOS

[gritty fable]

If it helps, I have a snow version of Everon that I can't release because I've accessed data that I can't legally use. 😦

[dense cove]

I'll put my time into a new map for the community or something. I still either way will bring back some of what I did. I was working on a badass main russian base for the conflict version but alas that will likely not get finished now. I'm going to dig through TOP tonight. I'll pull it off workshop when i'm home then decide after I know more.

I have learned alot so I'll take what I've learned and make something great hopefully.

250 hours of work 😩

[gritty flower]

Yeah, there are some amazing maps from scratch in the works that I can't wait to see finished, and I think you might enjoy making it custom especially seen as your map seems to be built around milsim you can create your own insane stuff that you want, cool caves and bases that would be hard to pull off on everon but on your own map it's purely your imagination so you might find it more fun🤷

[gritty fable]

Word of warning either way. If it's not currently in the TOS, it will be at some point. So next time the game/tools force re-acception of TOS/EULA be sure to read it to make sure this hasn't been added.

[gritty flower]

Either way man, I can't wait to see what happens I'm sorry if this does go against TOS and you have to redo it but we all love this map and I can't wait to see what you do in future

#enfusion_generic message this message does seem like there may still be hope tho

[gritty fable]

On a positive note, they are bringing us real caves at some point, there's already some mention in stable branch.

[gritty flower]

Actually, seen as you guys are map creators I have been wondering something, I doubt you will know much but hopefully more than me

Destructible buildings and power grid

When you make a custom map is that then something you are gonna have to make manually add all the power stations and if there are custom buildings design and create your own destruction mechanics to the buildings?

Because on the roadmap it says a basic destruction engine so would assume it's just an engine for modders to expand on?

[dense cove]

Listen I'm gonna delete my post here to not draw attention to this I think.

[gritty fable]

Better safe than sorry

[dense cove]

Removing this until further notice

[barren knot]

Thought it was fine?

[quasi marten]

I couldn't imagine BI bein that cranky with ppl putting a map thats in the game your modding onto another map of the same game,

[gritty fable]

No but they are cranky that you're extracting binarized data and using it to put a map on a map or add extra islands to a map.

It's not that you're adding islands to maps. It's the fact that you have to extract binarized data in order to do so.

[gritty fable]

It was fine until it wasn't. And it wasn't as soon as Mario (the guy in charge of all things mod related) said it wasn't.

[barren knot]

Bet they hate my everon edit then

I added a new island and another edit removing everything lol

[gritty fable]

It's either a banable offense or it will be soon. Good luck

[dull hazel]

Did not know that, valid
As with everything like that, if it feels hacky, it most likely is, so better to ask before doing something even if you think it's harmless

Extracting binarized data is a big no no, same in A3

[barren knot]

@misty flower ?

[royal totem]

I wouldn't worry about it lol

[barren knot]

I’ve done at least 3 and nothing has happened

[gritty fable]

Nothing yet, as I said before. It was fine until it wasn't. So it's either been added to the TOS or it will be added at some point soon.

[barren knot]

A shame tbh

[gritty fable]

This isn't DayZ fortunately. They're not gonna go the same route regarding these things for Reforger or any of their new games.

[royal totem]

Let er go

[gritty fable]

Not really, the only way to get the data is by means they don't allow, meaning it isn't allowed. It's pretty simple logic to understand.

This could turn into "it's not allowed but, it's tolerated" like the 4 million "not allowed" retextures in prior games.

[barren knot]

Interesting isnt it your script that allows anyways

[gritty fable]

Wdym? I showed you and a couple other how to do it using a plugin that someone else made. I've never made and released any mods that use extracted data.

[barren knot]

My bad thought it was your script tbh

[dense cove]

I was sent the world file and layers from a old friend I no longer talk to then added it to my mod. I suppose since what I was give was ripped it would fit this "grey area" and therefore be questionable. I just wanna know flat out yes or no but seems i'll have to dig. Like I said I;m going to pull it tonight and bring it back or delete once i can confirm.

[gritty fable]

I condoned usage of said mod and altering of heightmaps at the time because it wasn't declared against the rules but, now it is.

[gritty fable]

The world file was extracted from binarized data.

[barren knot]

I see i see

[gritty fable]

I just don't want people getting banned. If it got added to the TOS that it isn't allowed and you didn't bother to read the TOS you could end up banned. But like I said, it could turn into one of those things that are tolerated but not allowed

[dense cove]

I'm going to play it safe and remove for now then I will come back with my own map that doesn't raise my blood pressure.

[gritty fable]

I'm sorry for your experience man. You probably only got the data because I showed people how to do it. In my defense it wasn't "illegal" at the time

[dense cove]

Thanks Zelik for looking out for us.

[dense cove]

All good, thanks for saying something man! I'll be okay, just a little kick in the ass.

[gritty flower]

Im sorry man, 8 months and a great map, but you got this and I can't wait to see what u come out with in future