#Plane Plane
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great to see you’re back! i’ve been waiting to see more of the a10 🙏
That's wild
I won't hear the end of this
Can't wait to recreate this with a real plane
Awesome
That’s so sick
Guess I gotta add a runway to to my main military base on my map now 😂
Yuhhhhh
perhaps
Airplwane
@keen vector
Are the controls for Xbox/controller players going to be similar to bf4 controls?
are you listening to horror movie soundtracks because modding is horror?
Haha actually its the Oppenheimer soundtrack. It was really good in the movie so Ive been relistening
But to answer your question: yes, modding can sometimes be horror
Any estimate on when this could be coming out?
Never
Personal goal by the end of the month I'd like something functional that can be released (even if I'm not entirely happy with exactly how it works) I've spent enough time trying out alot of different things and it just needs to work good enough, not be perfect.
Millon different physics things I can try so maybe I'll just release a base-line version and iterate on it
No promises though
just a goal
Sounds good, really appreciate the time and effort youre putting into this btw
I’m sure most people would be happy as long as it flys correctly rn
This is a game changer also really appreciate the effort 👌
Out of curiosity
What plane will it end up being
A-10 like the video?
nah i think it’s going be a piper club
A10 will be first released
whats the next aircraft after a10
ah a french su-25
Yes
Oui
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/aircraft/military-aircraft/lockheed-ac-130j-ghostrider
This would go hard if someone bought it
no interior
Damn
This one has an interior
Just no guns lol
https://www.turbosquid.com/pt_br/3d-models/3d-mig-29-multirole-fighter-aircraft-flight-1821615 with interior
If you want a c130 model with an interior https://www.turbosquid.com/pt_br/3d-models/3d-model-lockheed-c-130-hercules-military-transport/1121545
You all have to remember that a good AC-130 or C-130 model is hella expensive
I saw one at 950 USD and it came with all the bells and whistles but Hella expensive
That would definitely have to be community funded
As in to allow adam to just buy the model
NOT to bring it to Arma Reforger
@light mango
Wym
Would be nice to community fund for a good AC/C-130 model to be made (that is if adam would take it) but only fund for adam to buy it and not paying for it to be in the game
Yk
How much is it?
I might chip in for a ac 130
Honestly I care less for the AC-130 than the C-130 because then you just need parachutes
They are being made
I meant the parachutes my b 😭😭
Fighter jets may not make sense yet given map size restrictions. (Also I haven't programmed supersonic stuff yet, so the flight physics wont be accurate) If you were going Mach 2 in a Mig-29 you'd fly over eden in seconds
A10 is perfect because it is great for air support and doesn't go too fast
C130 would be cool but its utility would be limited. I imagine crew jumping and gun ship support and thats it
At 1500mph (mig-29) you'd cover 32km in 47 seconds
I believe map limits are 32x32
and the islands are even smaller
Maybe in A4 we will be able to see bigger maps if possible
Definitely
The next two that make the most sense (in jet terms) is the harrier and SU-25
SU-25 for competition to A-10
Harrier because its VTOL and cool
not on zimerta
big ass map
workshop link?
Yeah jets would work on some of the bigger maps like chernarus
Is that a gyat moment?
chernarus you would fly over in 30 seconds at mach 2
its about 15km x 15km
i mean u could set a limit on how fast you can go
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How did jets work in A3? I doubt it'd take very long for a fighter to go over Altis or Livonia
DOES THAT SAY MISSILE GUIDANCE SYSTEM
The missile doesn't really know what is going on, but is going with the flow
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How's the gun for the a10 coming along any videos for that
The missile knows where it is because knows where it isn’t
The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is - whichever is greater - it obtains a difference or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position that it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is is now the position that it wasn't, and if follows that the position that it was is now the position that it isn't. In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation. The variation being the difference between where the missile is and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was. The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows: Because a variation has modified some of the information that the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it know where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice versa. And by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error.
Agreed
This is rad, now I can live out my top gun fantasy’s 🙂
can’t wait to see more planes from you 😩
👀
Curious how long it’ll take to get official planes/plane physics
Plane Physics are made I believe
It is just Guns and Animations left
From BI?
there the same scripts
As far as I know they are not planned for Reforger. They haven’t been officially announced anyway.
I made the flight physics from scratch. I joined redline last year and they’ve helped alot with models, importing, and alot of other stuff like inputs. Then @charred cairn has been helping me with missile guidance a bit
Love to hear and soon see it
Though they do have an AirplaneContext for inputs
So maybe, or just future proofing
Im sure eventually they will want their own planes
Quick question but how does the A-10 react when taking damage or crashing?
Bold of you to think we’d crash a fine piece of American technology
You overestimate the pilots of arma reforger
I simply dodge all the bullets. Its that easy man
No damage effects at the moment. Adam and Ralian are just working on fixed wing physics and setting up the base vehicle.
Will the plane have air break physics ? And G effect?
Yes, and no. Might add G effect later
Awesome bro im so hyped for this man I appreciate the time your putting in🏆
Yes to air brakes, no G effects yet
Do you guys make clothing too? Dont think there s a g suit in the game yet
I don’t, I don’t think anyone in red line does either
All good im sure somone will sort one when the mod drops
Also are the controls compatible with the xbox controller? And what would you compare it to if so?
Well Dustypeeks has made stuff for us before (the US pilot helmet is an original model by him) and he does an amazing job, but a G-suit would be a very big ask. I doubt I would want to do it if I were him, there are so many other things to prioritize.
I can't speak for others on the team but I am a vehicle modder. Not a clothing modder.
Even just a simple pilot suit would be dope
Also any kind of estimation on plane
Will the avionics be functional and what all will players be able to interact with inside the cockpit?
this year maybe
All flight critical avionics will be functional. Speed, altitude, etc. we probably wont simulate flight computers at all for now. Trim will be interactable
Will trim be changeable like how you can slightly open windows on vehicles?
Using scroll
soonTM. But actually not very far away.
Yes exactly. This is the current plan
Sick, will there be a HUD implemented into the aircraft or is that more of a down-the-road thing?
if this thing explodes mid air does it burst into pieces like in arma 3?
Maybe. Not sure if that will make our minimum viable product, but if not definitely will be added after release
Not yet
Im feeling more war thunder vibes than arma 3
Heard, sounds cool. Glad we have somebody actually doing plane-shit in Arma Reforger. Will 100% be revolutionary to be done and interacted with in this new engine.
Hope eventually a C-130 will be made in order to perform supply drops/air inserts
A cessna 172 is also in my pipeline for a more laid back use case. Id like to explore the island at a more leisurely rate
I haven’t played war thunder in a bit because, I don’t like torture but could you summarize war thunder type plane destruction?
Ah what a wonderful(it’s not makes me cry) game
I see, don’t mind that either
Depends tbh
Especially on the type of thing tbag hits you
Like rockets etc
They will all do different types of damage
ehhhh it don’t matter that much because awesome plane
@ebon pecan what sounds are we expecting from the jet too bro? Hope they have the roar and crackle sound you hear irl
jets are probably gonna be a hold off because FAST and arma reformer maps are smol
Or there speed is gonna be dialed down hard to like bf4 jet speeds
that could be a good work around
Id be down for this
Although the helicopter speeds would then have to be tweaked if thats the case maybe
How does it work as far as the lod range/render distance for the maps with how little it is?
it’ll probably work like gm speeds
I dont mind the option of mach1 but most of the time if you are CAS your gonne be doing something like 300-400 knots maybe slower
Yea, but if you’re going mach1 you’d cross the map in like 40 seconds.
Exactly man it will be good for getting in the AO but You will have to slow down to atleast mach 0.5 when operating
What will the A-10 be armed with upon initial release? I assume the GAU-8 but will we get any rocket pods or unguided bombs?
I believe it will come with rockets just like that on the Apache and Hind
Current plan is GAU and bombs. Unsure of size. Guided rockets are WIP and we may add unguided. @charred cairn may have more to say on this
Guided wont be for initial a10 release
Will it have 11 hardpoints like irl? Pods and unguided bombs would be more than enough for CAS
Yes I believe so
Let@me check
Actually I only see 8 modeled from the arma 2 a10
I see this from google
There should be eight under the wings and three under the fuselage.
This pic shows that a little better. Eight would do just fine tho I doubt there would ever be a need for more than that
If you keep one in your lap, you can open the cockpit and push it out
I hope we get a jdam and it looks like the explosions from the M270 MLRS
Me personally i would just be happy with the GAU and nothin else
Cant wait for this
That is what we have. Although station 1 is only for aim-9's and can hold 2 of them
You missed the center under the fuselage, that's modeled as well
Ah okay
I like bombs, they’re very awesome
Let me know if you want a J3 Cub model. I would love to fly it around Everon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu_dCzoqyig
Big Tires Studios released their J3 Cub... its not expensive, but is it worth it?
Get it in the marketplace.
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Not ripped, that's my company. 😂
A cub for reconnaissance stuff would be awesome
Or even to drop supplies or something
US Army used thousands of them for recon in WW2.
I wanna drop grenades from it
Went the mach loop today and seen this russian YAK would be awesome to get a model and implement into the game
Something like this would be perfect for smaller maps like Arland
That is awesome! I would love to incorporate this into reforger. Ill reach out this weekend, im currently on vacation
I can hop in a call with you later tonight if you want.
^^, Ralian would be a good contact if you wanna talk sooner than this weekend
Yeah just hit me with a DM request. I have messages from randos off 🙂
I would really like this
attack crop duster
It drops gas
@charred cairn @ebon pecan any update on a release date brother
No and please don't ping us asking
My apologies man
No worries
Stop it im just hyped af 😅 an not been flying in arma for a while so its become abit stale 😂
The AT-6E would be an amazing vehicle as a fighter aircraft since it’s slow and could fit on the smaller maps because keys would be too fast, it’s also a cool looking plane
I want this BAD
Planes like that would be the best bet for reforger Icl
I know, this plane is perfect
they’re also awesome because they can also be used as training aircraft since you know, it’s also a training aircraft
See these all the time where i live and the pc-21
These planes are perfect for reforger, also prop planes are awesome
Cant beat the sound of a turbo prop 👌🏆
Imagine a turbo prop plane alongside a AH-64D apache
Itd be a weirdly wild time
Man I really hope Adam can give us one of these prop planes 😩
Be better for base building and wouldn’t eat up vehicle storage on a map
Well the a10 is almost done anyways other planes mods will follow after that
well prop planes are slower and won’t fly over Everon in 4 seconds
Jets are a too fast
Well how do you know
Have you flown over everon in a jet
And that's kinda the point
And 450 kts (Mach 0.75) is pretty slow compared to modern day
read the messages from the 8th this was already discussed
Damn I still don't care a10 on top
I those prop planes I thought you meant genuine props
plane?

Yeah all the messages in here have been supremely annoying over the past few days, and idk about Adam but I will provide no further updates in here. When we release something, we will have a new thread.
Also I'm stealing this meme. Apt.
Yeah probably not. We will update more when the vehicle is ready or almost ready for release.
Basically shush guys and let the poor lads work lol 😂
Here here!
@dapper apex
I read this entire thread, and if I woulda just drilled 4 messages up to start w, I would knew this thread is in limbo like the other💀
Huh
@amber fable
@sonic valve
A plane?!? How tf
but we’re still waiting, sadly
Knows how to mod + aero physics major = Adam
Y’all think the arma engine could support a plane tho?
Deffo for pc questionable for console tho i think
I will say I’m impressed how far the game has come with console though. I miss the helicopters but a plane would be insane especially something like an AC-130
But for console, most likely impossible
Yall just some console haters
Nah it’s more or less the horrible servers that crash every 3 seconds
You can literally crash a console ran server with 10 smoke grenades
Im on console 😂😂
Its more depending on what dedicated site you using
That’s the issue
The server not console players in general.
I dont think there will be an issue running the planes on console. Right now the script averages 100 microseconds per frame on my PC. Ill test on my series S when its ready
Thank you 🙂
Server performance and connection are always key. Even with the new vehicle system you can get issues with high ping or bad server performance
Adam is the draw distance a problem when your doing 500knts+?
A10 peaks around 350knots and I havent noticed any
It sucks that it isnt further but it is good enough
Sometimes hard to line up for landing on Arland
Thats nice atleast its not too fast, and practice makes perfect man with the on screen compass you will get used to headings and stuff
Is the gun gonna cause any problems for the sevs due to fire rate or what’s gonna happen with that?
Could we maybe even have a sneak peek of it firing?
We need the brrrrrttt
I mean we already have the mini gun from project redline so it shouldn’t be an issue.
Yeah but we need the sound
Im pretty sure the A10 has a higher fire rate than that
Like 3200RPM to be exact
3900
Well I was wrong the mini gun has more irl
But idk abt in game
Irl it has arnd 4000 RPM
Can't really tell with it's sound but it's definitely fast in game
Well yea
Ik that
But idk if they gonna make the a10 fire rate faster
Coz Ik sum games do that
I can only assume that every 5th round is a tracer which is what the c-ram follows
But let's leave them to figure it out
Yeah
Is it just unguided with ccip or is it gbus with ccrp?
^
Prob unguided and you will most likely have to be skilled to use it and not kill friendly with it
Ah ok
When I mean ccip it's the sight in the cockpit that points where the bomb will hit
Tbf I didn’t know but I think it might be that
Coz seems the easiest to do
But idk tbh
Never know
Further in the future they should add the target pod for recon/standby support
But idk I'll leave them to figure it out
A10 will probably not have realistic firing rate for some time. We are limited to 1800rpm per source, but we could double the weapon. But will have to see how much that affects performance.
idc as long as it can turn a man into mist and a vehicle into scrap in 3 seconds
Alright never knew that so it will probably be arnd 1000 to 1800rpm
I mean that’s not to far off. I think the A10’s later models were capped at around 2000+ rounds per minute or something like that. (You may be aware at some point the plane had the ability to switch between two different fire rates before they capped it at one specific speed.)
Forgive me I'm not a mod creator or anything but how difficult is it to make a workable HUD
my ZU-23 fires two bullets with small variation in their velocity with a rpm of 1000, everyone ends up seeing 2000 rpm pretty much
anywhere between trivial to complex depending on how far you want to go - a simple static hud that hovers above the instrument cluster is relatively trivial, gets complex when you want to have it follow your head around and so on
I may experiment with the HUD being optically correct based on head position, but it may not be worth the time and effort. I haven't looked into actually simulating it yet so it might be easier than expected but I doubt it. Plus the benefit of simulating it to behave correctly is minimal and might actually be annoying once the cool factor wears off
something like a hud that would display on its own screen like some aircraft have in the center of view should be enough for 99.9% people, ignore the nerds in 0.1%
I am the nerd in the 0.1% so it hurts myself but also saves me alot of work 😛
honestly the difference in function between the above and helmet hud is just where the widget is... in the UI or drawn on a plane
Yeah
you also dont need all of the features, but the basics should be ez enough
Believe me. A flying paper airplane would be good enough for some people as long as it worked
Would the parallax affect be applied here? How much more difficult would that make this?
Quick question is the mod gonna come in 2 separate packs like the a-10 being one mod and the the hud, physics, flight suits and stuff be separate?
Flight model and peripherals are in R3D-Core
(I’m basing on the most recent video in the showroom) does the A-10 not have sound yet?
Dumb little suggestion but if you have the time could you put a General Electric washing machine manual in the cockpit as a small Easter egg?
why?
I think it is a Russian badger joke?
Gun on the a10 is made by general electric who make washing machines
I know GE made the GAU-8 I was just wondering if it was a running joke irl
Don't expect me to but I might if I feel like it. More random stuff to do = more delayed release
So a little stupid question but do you think you’ll ever tackle on a plane like a uh AC-130
Also Ralian if you get a chance check DMs
If we have a good model maybe
A2 c130 model is pretty awful so cant use it
Oh shi
I wouldn’t mind a ac130
I feel like a big issue w/ the A-10 would be the head positioning within it, it’s been an issue with the helicopters but more likely with the planes. When going vertical, the head begins to sway unnaturally and it’s weird to control a vehicle from that standpoint. I’m not sure if that is an engine restriction or something that could be fixed by “locking” the view to the perspective of the vehicle or whatnot.
Ex: 1:58 on the formation flying video
yes, this happens when your camera is controlled by the character
if you remove the camera from the character controller then it stops doing it
Yeah its something annoying I've been meaning to look into but have just had other priorities. I figure the character camera controller is orientating about world axes instead of local vehicle axes
something like that, I tried playing with it but didn't have the patience for it
Everon is gorgeous from the air.
I noticed there isn't working avionics, is that coming later on? Also it's nice to see we'll be able to free look on controller
Probably coming tonight or tomorrow. Just wasn't a priority for early testing.
Video framerate isn't great, but it was 65-75 FPS constant, with 75 fps hard cap.
Max view distance,
video quality on Ultra,
AA set to SMAA High,
Hardware AA 8x
The mod or the avionics
avionics. Mod still needs a lot of work.
Is release still by the end of August or should we expect a little longer?
I mean, that was Adam's "Goal". But it's not a hard date.
Controller usage
W
Also, that lag seems kinda weird. Is it just the recording software or is that actual performance with these new physics?
We have a list of minimum features we want to incorporate for initial release. This is whats driving release date. It's not too much more, but not quite there yet
Camera free look take a bit of getting used too with XBox controller, but flight is so much smoother.
uploaded video problem
Fair
There is no lag when playing. Just the recording.
Glad to see a good plane coming in, can this engine be implemented into other planes or will there have to be tweaking to make it work with others?
Works for any plane
Actually awesome
Quick question but what’s is this “minimum” of features?
Brrrrrrrrrrrrr
I see
How do i become a tester?! 🤣😂😅
What is the anticipated size of the mod (in terms of MB/GB).
A10 is roughly 200-300MB
better than air force
I really cant wait im sat in a black hawk sad now 🤣😂
Does the video have no sound? or is it the a10
sound WIP
Ok
So flawless and perfect I almost thought it was irl
Looks amazing
Is sound the last thing ya'll are working on?
its a stealth a10
HUD gang
+10 days
That’s only if a “q word” happens
Adam and Ralian spontaneously combust
True
Quinquetubercular?
Quarter?
Don’t guess it because if you get it right like kae said🤫
Quasimodo?
I said don’t guess
but
I can’t even tell you in DMs..they haunt those
I honestly turn the xbox on ever couple hours to check if a10 has landed 🤣😂
Even more now its getting near the end of the month 😅
Me too. I'm just waiting for the notification in one of the channels
hints🤣
Yall depraved as heck lol
Bro be patient
I am it’s just a meme I edited a lil
Yes bro. I’m waiting for A-10 and starfield 😭
+10 days
release date moves 1 day into the future for every release question
Soon brother, soon.
🔜
None have been asked🤫
Why did you have to say it?
Then ig it’ll never release
Finna imploded from anticipation
can't blame you
this silence
Speak for yourself
Nah cause i would just solo GM until i die
Yeah i could do that actually fr, i cant get in any server with mods on atm 🤣😂
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO