DarkGru mods

[exotic root]

SS taken from another pilot in the server

[pallid silo]

That seating issue is killer. Literally my biggest gripe about this mod. Everything else though is coming together pretty freakin well.

[kindred lodge]

@cerulean sleet by the way darkgru operator and operator packs are messing with Tods Huey’s and Kioks heli and a lot of other mods not sure if it’s just me.

[cerulean sleet]

It’s been reported although don’t know why as we don’t experience the issue

Not on our conflicts atm

[kindred lodge]

I have no clue why either it sucks because you guys got awesome ghillie suits as well as a cool heli vest

[exotic root]

I’ll do some digging

[sweet crater]

Maybe a mod load order🤷🏽‍♀️

[kindred lodge]

Nope tried able every order lol

[spice sundial]

Gear mods cannot affect vehicles, ever, unless they actually include vehicles, and did it wrong... I can confirm it is not caused by the Darkgru mods mentioned, as there is no vehicle config files in any of those mods that make up the Darkgru Op stuff.

Recommendation:
take out all vehicle mods, then put in 1 vehicle mod at a time until you find the culprit...

[unkempt wagon]

This image represents what would be done if people in Rio de Janeiro - Brazil had access to the Blackhawk, (Climb on the edge of the window and make fun of it)

like Florida

[kindred lodge]

I can confirm it was because I’ve literally tried everything and it only worked when I removed darkgru multiple mods were broke and fixed immediately after I removed the darkgru mod idk what it is but it somehow messes with it more specifically the operator mods I believe.

[spice sundial]

if you want help getting to actual bottom of this problem, dm me your mod list - you could be running into memory issues - darkgru ops adds almosts 2gb of mods with the dependencies, but it is not conflicting directly with vehicles. I might even go out on a limb and suggest if you remove 2gb of other mods and put darkgru back in, it would have given the same result.

[kindred lodge]

Unfortunately memory isn’t the issue because I literally got the best server my hosting provided and I don’t even use 20% of it. Unless reforger caps it I don’t think memory is an issue. I’ve added 2 gb of mods in its place and they all run great also apparently I haven’t been the only person running into this issue.

[spice sundial]

Like I said, if you want another set of eyes on the problem, DM your modlist... I don't mind messing with it until I figure it out

[kindred lodge]

I’ll dm you but I already solved the problem

[spice sundial]

I can use every vehicle mod I tried so far with Darkgru's stuff so it is not directly causing the problem, but glad to help find the true source of the issue

[kindred lodge]

Bro our DMs are cursed lmao 😭

[spice sundial]

haha, don't remember that 🤣

[wind rose]

Dark gru mod?

[kindred lodge]

@cerulean sleet My xbox players are reporting that when I add the darkgru helos to my server this is only for xbox players they have to hit rb and right trigger to actually turn right in the helicopter and it affects every helicopter do you know a fix or smth?

[cerulean sleet]

No it has to be that way for the dap variant to work but it overrides all vehicles in the game so I did the one that does the least fucking up

[kindred lodge]

Is there any way you can make the dap variant into a separate mod then for I can use the rest of the blackhawks?

[fast acorn]

You can't hold RB and tap RT? @kindred lodge

[kindred lodge]

It pisses off my pilots

[quasi parcel]

Rebind your heli controls.

[crisp path]

It's a simple thing to relearn. Personally I've gotten used to it now, and that DAP hawk is a pleasure to fly

[kindred lodge]

You can’t

It’s just really inconvenient especially since it’s not the same for turning left

[odd nymph]

You can. They made it possible in last update.. I use Lt for rudder left, rb for rudder right, rt to fire

Works completely fine and doesn't feel that bad at all tbh

[kindred lodge]

Wait so tell me how real quick then because my pilots said they couldn’t

[odd nymph]

And tbf it's either they complain and not change the controls, or change the controls to atleast make it useable

[odd nymph]

I'm not home, but literally just in arma settings>controls>helicopter>rudder right> rebind to rb

[kindred lodge]

Kk

Also how come Tods Huey’s doesnt do the same thing it has miniguns and rockets too

[pallid silo]

He’s just gotta tweak it to what mortalis was able to do

[kindred lodge]

???

[pallid silo]

You’re asking why don’t the guns fire the same as the Dap? Both at same time?

[kindred lodge]

Tods fires both at the same time without the issue that the DAP has?

[pallid silo]

Oh really I didn’t realize his got updated

[kindred lodge]

It was pretty recently and it’s nice

So hopefully we can apply the strategy tod used to the DAP

[odd nymph]

What issue does the dap have?

[exotic root]

Wanted to ask as I’ve struggled to find it, anyone know where the tail repair interact is on the Blackhawks?

[kindred lodge]

Was the DAP issue fixed

[cerulean sleet]

It’s not broken

I use a controller and use it just fine I can show them how if need be

[kindred lodge]

Well how come Tods Huey’s doesn’t need to change controls? But the dap does

[cerulean sleet]

He chose for it to be that way

[kindred lodge]

Why’d you choose to change controls?

[fast acorn]

Its the most effective for majority
Just like you mentioned in SpaceStrider thread

[fast acorn]

You can change vanilla controls if you're still adamant

[fast acorn]

Im referencing your comment of majority and ease of use in SpaceStrider thread as of three days ago. Nothing else

The weapon controls are fine the way they are. You can change flight controls, but not gun again for ease of use.

The dap variant doesn't use bgone so there is no issue.

[odd nymph]

It's really not, it's one button change, and on the exact same side of the controller, RT to RB is so minor, and takes literally 10 mins to get used to, not every helicopter changes to work like that, so if 2 helicopters change bur striders dont for example that makes it even worse

[cyan jewel]

As far as I know DarkGru helis are the only modded helis to use this system. The other helis have a "safety" so u can still use RT without launching anything. I personally like it that way instead but to each their own.

[fast acorn]

Moreover, helicopter controls have changed three times on the span of the reforger lifespan. Learning temp controls shouldn't be too hard to get around.

Until BI makes a static control for weapon systems and flight control, this is the norm albeit temporarily

[cerulean sleet]

Hey guys my updated roadmap (The timeframe is not accurate and is expected to be earlier or later)

[lethal shale]

Will the bigger ships just be static?

[cerulean sleet]

No

[loud dust]

[exotic root]

I’m so ready for the chinook 👀👀

[lethal shale]

Naval warfare bout to be lit 🔥

[odd nymph]

Praying that the Chinook as custom sounds cos the blade chop is the most iconic part ❤️

[kindred lodge]

The vertibird is lowkey dope

[cerulean sleet]

Oh it will

[odd nymph]

I love you

[sullen edge]

Will the ships be drivable or will just be objects ( talking about the littoral mission vessels)

[odd nymph]

Drivable, none of them will be stationary

[scenic kestrel]

Our flight team has no issue

Although it’s unfortunate it is temporary and pestering the guy who made these nice airframes with such messages asking him why his is different over other modders over and over is very rude, please do better

[scenic kestrel]

Read what i said, you consistently message why his controls are different and how taxing it is on your pilots and how other modders have it differently and it’s rude stop comparing modders to other modders

[gusty smelt]

The flight model is for the helicopter

[fast acorn]

Your may have missed when he and other modders working on helos stated "This is the best way despite trying every other way possible" you dont need to get dramatic. -The guy you said yaps a lot (me)

[scenic kestrel]

Womp Womp i guess

[fast acorn]

You're wilding about the wrong person. You get butthurt so easily about the smallest things. So you default to claiming I'm a troll.

Look inward before complaining about what i say kid

[eager sphinx]

I do agree that changing the controls is inconvenient
but wtf

[graceful mist]

ill reverse all controls in loadout editor

[eager sphinx]

That would be so cruel, all loadouts would be overwritten after the first session

[lethal shale]

Do it.

[sweet crater]

Bro Templar is straight up goofin 😂

Controls are hella easy on controller/console guys. Keep up the good work🙌

I forgot to use my words, forgive me. Going after the modders in such a way was goofy. They’re just here trying to bring stuff to the community.

I’m sure your pilots must be nice dudes, but unfortunately they’re just bad. Look, if I can fly the helicopters with the current controls, ANYONE can. Best of luck!!😃

too long, didn’t read the past few days of back and forth. I’m here for good helicopters with good controls🤷🏽‍♀️

[plain bison]

??

[kindred lodge]

Can you please handle the trolls they’re trying to instigate arguments out of non existent issues

[tacit comet]

D- Do I dare say something?

[kindred lodge]

No because this is spamming the darkgru mod chat with nonsense

[plain bison]

the purpose of these topic is partially to gather feedback. That being said, said feedback can 100% be ignored for whatever reason. If you and/or whoever else would prefer a different control scheme, feel free to make a dependency mod that changes the controls to whatever you prefer. No point in dragging the subject
In regards to trolling, please everyone here stay on topic, personal attacks / flaming is not tolerated

[kindred lodge]

I 100% agree

[scenic kestrel]

understandable

[fast acorn]

Funny turn of events
Anyhow looking forward to the debut of the chinook

[cerulean sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-michael-scott-turntables-gif-12190345

[cerulean sleet]

The chinook is out!

Negatives:
The flashbang you get while looking at it.
Minigun turret seating not good
No interior lighting or spotlights

[lethal shale]

Still good nonetheless

[fast acorn]

Thank you very much Ares

[odd nymph]

YESSSSSSS I LOVE YOU

[gentle estuary]

Hell yeah

[unkempt wagon]

Did not Found in the workshop

[gentle estuary]

It’ll be in Darkgru SOAR helicopters

It’ll have 2 Blackhawks as the thumbnail. It’s like a vehicle pack for Darkgru helicopters

[unkempt wagon]

ohh, ok nice

[cerulean sleet]

Hey guys I am aware of some annoying issues I’ll have them worked out and out in a single patch probably as this mod is getting ridiculous to upload lol. My hats off to RHS to get there’s out as mine failed twice before it finally worked lol

[cerulean sierra]

RHS has a Chinook too? Or have I read that wrong

[cerulean sleet]

Read wrong I meant the size of the mod since there’s is so big I can only imagine the stress updating it

[cerulean sierra]

Ahhh I get you also amazing work on the chinook it’s beautiful

[dense plover]

Fuck that looks good

[tacit comet]

I hope we get a green re-skin for regular Army

[dense plover]

That'd be awesome

[cerulean sleet]

I just need a better basic paint job for it first

[distant salmon]

its a part of dark gru Soar helis

[cerulean sleet]

Due to the retopo that was done it did a lot of tearing on the UV map so it’s real rough

[distant salmon]

when i was testing the Chinook last night the first spawned one was fine but i noticed the 2nd one i spawned and every one after that had the front and back landing gear go through the ground mesh, anyone have this happen? Im on PC

[uneven drum]

Honestly I kinda wish I could get a standalone version of just the chinook lol and yeah Im having issues with the front wheels meshing

So when are you making a little bird, osprey and a sea stallion? XD

[odd nymph]

It is a little bit too dark imo 😂

[cerulean sleet]

Oh 100% I’ll lighten it up but it’s also sort of too make it’s issues 😂😂

[cerulean sleet]

I have models for the little bird and king stallion

[odd nymph]

No fucking way

[cerulean sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/so-good-wink-smile-oh-yeah-its-true-gif-24163876

[uneven drum]

oooh

[umbral cloud]

Zero stress. I press a button and let the software we wrote take care of it.

[umbral cloud]

Please make sure the little bird is not the same stolen RHS model that was already taken off of workshop

[cerulean sleet]

Oh that’s great! And yes it won’t be the same one lol atleast not the same guy

[distant salmon]

little bird returning? 👀

[uneven drum]

I've been wanting little birds soo bad for my server

I'm just glad that the darkgru helis are now working with Redline's uh-60 pack

had a conflict before for me at least

If you land the Chinook and put the weight all on the rear tires of it, it wont clip into the ground

[cerulean sleet]

Perhaps, would only take me a day or two to do it

[uneven drum]

I'd kiss you

[odd nymph]

You are the best ❤️

[kindred lodge]

Is it different from the stolen model?

[cerulean sleet]

Yes

[kindred lodge]

Sweet little bird!

[cerulean sierra]

One helicopter I think we should get is a hind at some point

Or MH53

[odd nymph]

Didn't see that on the roadmap anywhere 😂 mf was keeping that a secret

[cerulean sierra]

King Stallion yes please

[kindred lodge]

One of the coolest helicopters ngl

[cerulean sierra]

Ong i saw one fly over me today on the way to the shop

[gentle estuary]

The day the osprey gets uploaded will be a day of celebration

[fast acorn]

^

In all honesty I'm grateful for how far we've come in terms of aviation assets. Definitely looking forward to the future of arma reforger

[calm leaf]

ngl the aviation mods were better before the 1.0 update😭

[gusty smelt]

Nah

[sand solstice]

Waiting for a V-22 Osprey tbh ✅

[knotty swan]

King stallion as in ch53

[cerulean sleet]

goodnight

[kindred lodge]

I’m gonna 🥜🥜

[lime kiln]

When im looking on it im going into heaven It might be because of the black but you already said you will fix it

[vast spruce]

Try HDR fix mod

[cerulean sleet]

Yea I have to find out where I can fix the exposure compensation

[arctic salmon]

B O A T

[cerulean sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/m4rkdoll-gif-8087818133658239076

[exotic root]

If you use a HDR fix you don’t get this issue

[leaden sphinx]

I think @buoyant flare mentioned to me that he probably knew what the issue was and could probably fix it with substance painter

[umbral cloud]

It's for sure too black. Lighten the texture, tweak metalness and roughness

The autobrightening is a function of the blackness of the pixels and the number if pixels it takes up on screen

[leaden sphinx]

@cerulean sleet

[graceful mist]

also in main branch the exposure compensation thing is broken

[graceful lance]

Just wondering is sling loading an idea you plan on implementing on the Chinook?

[cerulean sleet]

yes when its more available

[graceful lance]

gotcha do you know who is currently working on it?

[gentle estuary]

For some reason my friend kept getting kicked whenever the chinook was spawned in. Does anyone have any idea why?

[fast acorn]

Corrupted mod
He may have to redownload

[azure linden]

Osprey next kek

[exotic root]

@cerulean sleet would it be okay to DM you?

[cerulean sleet]

Yes

[pallid silo]

@cerulean sleet question for the chinook. Is there a way to add an option to approach the door? Had an issue brought up when multiple joes stood up at once and the only one left alive was the one closest to the door. Heli blew up. Gonna run some more tests to see if a controlled departure maybe one side at a time or by the numbers stand up and depart

[cerulean sleet]

Hmm I could adjust the get out so you teleport to the door and you’d have to do it one at a time probably

[pallid silo]

For sure love the way you can stand up in it. Like I said gonna run some more tests with different exit methods, I’ll let you know what we find out with the current setup

[uneven drum]

Seem to be running into a issue with the DarkGru helis crashing the console players on my server consistently, are there any known mods that it conflicts with?

[spiral sedge]

@cerulean sleet hey man, not sure if this has already been brought up to you but the front wheels seem to sink on the chinook and my friend can’t seem to get them to stay above ground

[uneven drum]

@spiral sedge it's known, put the weight on the back tires when landing and put the front down gently

It will be a little bit for a update as he wants to fix all it's issues in 1 go, texture, tires meshing, etc.

[cerulean sierra]

You just need to take off and land it or drop it from a bit of height and it should work

[cerulean sleet]

I’m not positive, I would say try to scan the logs server side and see what it says

[kindred lodge]

You guys made PLA right?

[cerulean sleet]

Indeed

Did anyone check the Blackhawk to see if you can get out properly now after the update

[loud dust]

Are we gonna get emr versions of the tyr belt and vest/pouches for the Russian overhaul mod?

[vapid leaf]

Have you guys figured out yet if or how your gonna make nato overhaul not dependent on pla, or atleast dark gru operators dependent on pla

[fast acorn]

Going to test in 25 minutes
I'll report back in due time

[cerulean sierra]

I’ve been using it in a server and you still pop to the top of it idk if that’s what you wanted to happen but thought I’d let you know

[sullen edge]

Good shit on the Chinook design, flys like a beast 🤙🏼

[arctic salmon]

Which mod is it

[sullen edge]

Darkgru soar helicopter pack

[arctic salmon]

Thanks

[fast acorn]

Passenger get out actions seem to work well! Very nice!

[knotty swan]

Anyone know how to repair the tail rotor for the blackhawk like where to look

[loud dust]

Can we get a CRAM at main operating bases on the conflict servers

[fast acorn]

It is quite difficult to get to
I took a screenshot on xbox on where to find it
Give me time and I'll send it here

[knotty swan]

Sounds good

[knotty swan]

Not gunna lie lol after ares said king stallion im intrigued and just wanna see whats planned for it

[odd nymph]

His entire roadmap is gas, dying for the littlebird and for the Chinook to get a bit of work

[knotty swan]

Nah it is but im mainly pumped cause i always wanted a CH53 variant in reforger

[cerulean sierra]

That’s coming⁉️

[knotty swan]

Scroll up ares confirmed it

[fast acorn]

Apologies for the late response. Been rather busy

It's off by a few inches and you need to look at it at a certain angle to fix via prompt

[cerulean sierra]

Wooo

[knotty swan]

Ahh ok

[grim magnet]

I have never used such a set of mods before that conflicts with everything as much as darkgru mods

[midnight zealot]

That sounds helpful, well done with the constructive post about the issues you are facing.

Maybe a breakdown of the mods in question and a list of conflicts you have discovered?

[vapid leaf]

I know every time my server use pla it breaks our vehicles specifically kiok humvee’s , really wish nato overhaul didn’t depend on pla

[grim magnet]

PLA mod somehow conflicts with vehicle mods

[midnight zealot]

@cerulean sleet Have you looked into the entitycatalog issue I mentioned to you that was happening with my Kiowa? King helped me resolve it, was related to the method used to add my modded vehicle to the catalog, if you hit add after, it results in breaking any other mod that is also added to the server.

It may not be that reason that other modded vehicles fail to show, but that is what mine ended up being.

[cerulean sleet]

The thing that’s weird is on my milsim we have my stuff and pla and Kiok Humvees and they all show up for us so idk why some have issues and some don’t

[midnight zealot]

Maybe folks with issues need to post up their full mod list, see if there is something outlying somewhere resulting in the issue

May not even be your mods causing it, but folk are quick to blame in this community for some reason

[cerulean sleet]

Yea I get it and I have heard the complaint more than not but like I said I was just in a convoy two days ago with a bunch of Kiok Humvees and we had stuff spawning

[grim magnet]

Try TODs hueys for example, or even TODs m113s. Some weapon mods conflict too. Mag Repack is completely incompatible with magazines added from darkgru

[cerulean sleet]

See that’s the thing we use mag repack in our realism servers and it works 😂😂

Unless you mean the actual repacking thing but that means the guy that made it has to make it compatible like how the sound guys have to do it for modded weapons. We use unique mags that aren’t the same as vanilla

[vapid leaf]

Ares are you guys still planning on updating nato overhaul to where it does not need pla to be a dependency

[spice sundial]

I have put all the mods in question in one big modpack and everything works fine together... and I have asked for a complete modlist too, still waiting... there is a limit to how much content the game can load, and it's based on memory (could be an artificial limit too). If you run out you don't get all the content.

[rain laurel]

Could a GM vs conflict server have an effect? For example they might not be showing up in the GM entity browser, whereas they show up on the vehicle spawns at a prefab on a conflict server

[spice sundial]

that is the effect I speak of, if you don't see the mods in GM that are in your mod list, you likely have too much you are trying to load at once... this game has some some pretty unforgiving caps it seems... but without a complete list of mods to test with I can only give feedback based on what I've seen personally, unrelated to these mods, but related to the symptom that is being experienced... especially after testing these mods for compatibility issues and finding none.

[warped goblet]

Is the chinook texture going to be fixed? It's super black. Or atleast a few different colors

[grim magnet]

https://reforger.armaplatform.com/workshop/6176C7543651122E-BritishChinook

[warped goblet]

Thank you!

[fast acorn]

Hey Ares, is there a way to expand the rear cabin size to accommodate multiple troops offloading and entering at the same time or is that too much work?

[odd nymph]

Ares casually drops the sunburst power armour without telling anyone 😭

Loads of fallout armour, t45 stuff, Xo1, t51, NV apa, t60, bos, raider

[neat crescent]

Well all that is planned. RN it’s some glorious T-45

[kindred lodge]

No X-01

[cerulean sierra]

Any updates on the little bird?

[grim magnet]

Does such a mod exist of a standalone darkgru gear mod or anything similar at all?

that does not require PLA as a dependency I mean

[warped goblet]

I wish brother

[random slate]

which mod pack has the chinook?

trouble finding it

[odd nymph]

Darkgru soar helicopters

[odd nymph]

Any news on the Chinook getting a fix/update?

[kindred lodge]

He’s been busy making power armor

[grim magnet]

Does the 4MMR heli reskin mod also reskin the chinook in the SOAR heli mod?

[cerulean sierra]

Don’t think so no

[cerulean sleet]

I have a guy doing the reskin for me but haven’t received it yet!

[knotty swan]

Do yall have plans to make a 40m belt

[grim magnet]

Is there any fix for getting stuck in the gunner seats of the Everon Patrol vehicles? When I get stuck, not even a GM can tp me out of it

[sullen edge]

Any update on the little bird ?

[ruby relic]

I do wonder if maybe BI will add Little Bird on their own. considering it is in the time era

[pallid silo]

Doubtful

[knotty swan]

Lt speirs as a pfp yea your a legend god speed

[sullen edge]

Nah they won’t be releasing them since it was never in their upcoming projects that they showed ab the road maps and final blow I think it’s called for the last update

[half sand]

I was hoping they released a black hawk and hind

[sullen edge]

Nah they only releasing the Huey gunship version and a lav

think that’s the last Vic’s they releasing

[half sand]

I damn I wonder why they did the Huey instead of black hawk but I ain’t complaining

[fast acorn]

Hopefully in arma 4

[gusty parrot]

Well everything in reforger is a test bed for Arma 4

[mighty kraken]

Make a virtion of just the ch47

[grim magnet]

Yeah A standalone of the chinook would be awesome

[half sand]

Pretty sure someone else jumped on that train can’t wait for him to release it

[grim magnet]

Two others I believe. The H-47 Chinook thread and I think spacestrider has been working on his on version as well

[half sand]

I like striders ones can’t wait to see them when they release

[grim magnet]

Im getting info that the recent darkgru updates broke the GI Jane head and its bald now lol

[leaden sphinx]

Good, now you can put a helmet on her without the hair sticking through

[grim magnet]

It also looks like a male head as well lol

[cerulean sierra]

We’re getting a MH-47G and H-47 from someone I think with sling loading and carry capability

[uneven drum]

Found a breaking bug, The Darkgru Nato Overhaul, makes all boxes when placed turn to US Army boxes

[grim magnet]

To add to this, it randomly changes any box to US Army faction boxes at random points of time in server no matter how many times we switch them back through GM

[uneven drum]

figured it out, mod load order was a issue

[grim magnet]

Can you guys please make the Chinese heli part of another heli pack from the PLA mods so we can use other heli mods while having your gear mods? I think it conflicts with alot of others that add passenger-role helicopters.

[half sand]

True

[grim magnet]

The everon patrol vic and the chinese hummer with the chinese Anti-material grenade launcher cannot be reloaded

[gusty parrot]

None of their models are reloadable yet I believe I was told that they're working on it and will ber a future feature

[grim magnet]

With the everon patrol vic with the 3 gunner seats on the darkgru servers, do players ever report getting stuck in the front gunner seat ever? I experience that on my server no matter what mods we run but we are a gamemaster server

[half sand]

If you want Chinese stuff and vehicles try reforged arma studios

High quality mods and weapons and he’s working on more things like the Canadian army , US Marines, and adding more things to his mods

[uneven drum]

The issue is we want the clothing and weapons of darkgru but we are required to have darkgru pla which is the mod that has issues and it conflicts with other mods such as Tods Hueys

[grim magnet]

Do you think you can make a seperate mod that makes some of your RU Overhaul weapons use the RHS Status quo Custom Reload Animation on their VS Val rifle?

Or even make your own version of it if that interests you

[outer solar]

Love the EF88 that’s apart of the PLA pack 🔥

[real roost]

they are getting rid of rhs for the darkgru stuff

[cerulean sleet]

were getting rid of RHS on our servers, The mod is growing too large for what we would use out of it and the Dev team seems to like to disrespect other modders more than not because they dont have 10 years of experience. It just doesnt align to our values.

[plain bison]

^20 years btw. In any case, no sure what or who you are talking about but RHS as group is happy to see other users join the modding ranks. Also happy to see (at least that is how it looks like) a change of stance in regards to modding, especially considering the former attempts than ended up with one modder of yours getting permabanned from workbench for taking money to make mods and ripping files. Best of luck either way

[cerulean sleet]

He modded for my community however it was not my communities views and the money he took waas from outside the community as himself. Not for DarkGru. that seems to be the big misconception. However ive seen 2 RHS Devs in the last week make negative comments about other modders

maybe as a group viewpoint but maybe individual views seem to differ than

[plain bison]

individual people are entitled to their own opinions ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[plain bison]

nothing to worry, there is no misconception on my part (i still have all the payments proof saved), hence why i already said it is a change (if that changed) that i applaud

[half sand]

I thought it was against the sever rules to talk about things that doesn’t concern the mod at hand

[bleak coral]

I mean, looking at the amazing quality standards RHS has, and considering the toxicity that seems prevalent throughout any of the Darkgru servers, the amount of conflicts their mods have with others, difference in quality, etc, I know who I'm choosing.
Darkgru's values can be seen just by playing 10mins in any of their servers

[plain bison]

thanks for the reminder, much obliged, not let's go back to the topic at hand

[cerulean sleet]

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion! You are free to play wherever you wish!

[bleak coral]

Of course

[cerulean sleet]

Again DarkGru never backed the paying for mods nor ever approved our modders to accept money. Regardless what was advertised or not if that’s what you’re saying. No screenshot proves anything other than the modder in question was free lancing. And using my platform to gain customers which again when we figured out was no longer allowed to mod or be an admin for my server so again the misconception is that it was DarkGru allowing it and it’s simply not true

[cerulean sierra]

Funny how their reply is emojis honestly the entitledness is funny especially for a arma moderator to come in here acting like that

[dawn rose]

Why do I feel like I’m in a episode of the kardashians with all this beef 😂

[distant salmon]

how big is the RHS download these days? 6 gigs?

[cerulean sierra]

4.4 and takes around 1hour 30 mins to install depending on download speed on consoles

[graceful lance]

Fr it’s crazy what they say even though they moderators

[cerulean sleet]

And it’s hilarious because pufu would mute people for doing so to his posts gotta love the double standard

[tacit comet]

Don't take this too far or you'll get eated

[cerulean sierra]

I do love some Bohemia interactive moderator double standards. Also hate the fact he always brings up “get a pc” to some stuff like it’s that easy to honestly acts like he’s better than us or something

[half sand]

Honestly 😂😂 bro

[cerulean sierra]

That’s all ima say tho since we are all entitled to an opinion so pray I’m still here tomorrow 🙏

[grim magnet]

I do have to agree with Mortalis on this one cause my first interactions on this discord, the RHS team seemed to be dickish in some ways

[grim magnet]

Do you plan in the future to make custom reload animations for any of your weapons? I know how tedious that kind if work is so I don't expect it to be easy, just wondering if it's something that interests you

[half sand]

Nah doubt they will do anything

@cerulean sleet all I’m saying is when you drop Chinese’s armor and more vehicles I will see you in combat

[cerulean sierra]

Oh well if they do but anyways ares amazing work on the mods keep it up

[cerulean sierra]

Don’t cry when it happens to you. goodnight people.

[stuck crest]

only takes me 25 on xbox

[dense plover]

For me I can usually download rhs in like 15 min on Xbox

[wary shoal]

.

@cerulean sleet when night vision and thermal mod pack, I'll help supply the details behind a wide range of night vision and thermal devices

PVS-14, BNVDs, DTNVS, 1531s, ARNVGs, quads, RH25/PFN640 hands on looks, I can even get some hands on time with a set of quads to help.

[grim magnet]

If you guys are gonna stray away from RHS, is it possible you will make your own iterations of IR strobes, IR lasers, and helmet attachments?

[cerulean sleet]

Yes

[grave hinge]

Fr anytime someone else did it they get muted

[hardy zodiac]

Someday. The big problem is finding a scripter that doesn't want to suck the barrel of a candy cane cannon anytime they realize the tasks at hand and realize how wacky Arma reforger scripting is in comparison to what they know.

So right now it's a matter of working to improve what the community came up with on their own. Greg is/was working on a more comparable night vision mod. And we have done some fantastic work inside his experimental mod. But only with the tools he's given us.

[pallid silo]

Hopefully it’s better than task force

TFT*

[midnight zealot]

Tft?

[pallid silo]

Yea I think that’s the main mod. I’ll find it

[undone pivot]

I don't think we will every compare to aussie 😭
What he does is phenomenal
(At least I won't)

[midnight zealot]

Some of my stuff is rough due to learning

[pearl cairn]

@cerulean sleet anyway to make it to where we can just stand up out of our seers and run out the back of the chinook rather then ejecting out the side for airborne drops? 75th completed their first airborne drop of over 30 people last night and it was epic

[calm leaf]

that thing is so black😭

[cerulean sierra]

That’s a quote and a half

[grave hinge]

I see my name there

[midnight verge]

ok so that was really cool.

[crimson flint]

What was the darkgru operator and nato pack update?

[cerulean sleet]

I don’t think it’s possible as the game views it as a moving vehicle and would likely “run” you over

[pearl cairn]

I mean from what I saw it was throwing us out the back anyway. At least we’re not jumping out the windows lol

[exotic root]

Moved some kits around and added some camos from what I can tell

[knotty swan]

Man i cant wait till there new belts or back packs

[uneven drum]

ah I see the issue lies with BGone that the overhauls depend on ahhh

[grim magnet]

When are you gonna make the Ares shirts 3x more ripped?

I need to look like Sam Sulek

[cerulean sleet]

hey guys currently, i have to wait for redline core to be updated for my pack to be updated safely. A beyond the rebuidling of the helicopters is concerned, it would be less so if the mod was updated.

[hollow island]

Will you guys be waiting for BGONE to be update or will you guys remove it as a dependency along with the stinger and igla for your NATO Overhual until BGONE is fixed?

[grim magnet]

I am pretty sure he is gonna get strider to release his files to help make a fix for them so he has alot of work to do for both spacecore/bgone as well as darkgru mods overall

[outer solar]

Hey gents, just letting you guys know that that EF88 from the DarkGru PLA Faction mod seems to have lost its textures with the latest update.

[exotic root]

It’s been vaulted due to bullpulp graphs breaking afaik

They discussed it in their discord

[outer solar]

Ahhh that’s a shame, I loved it. No worries.

[pearl cairn]

Yo @cerulean sleet did you ever get your helicopters to work with loading patients? Can’t remember if you tried it or if it fell through.

[cerulean sleet]

i could get it to function but didnt look good

[pearl cairn]

Eeek okay. We was wanting to start implementing this in our unit.

[knotty swan]

Will there be a update to the gear and stuff after the newest update?

[sly saffron]

The modding team are working hard to make them work

[spare shell]

Patience is the key for success

[cerulean sierra]

Morning creed but yeah he’s not wrong

[real roost]

this mod has some really weirdly textured stuff it looks alien

please fix it

[bleak coral]

okay, that comment is wild lmao

their mod is fine, let them do their thing

[real roost]

no the textures are off

if they arent following the reforger art style then sure man but things like the chinook look alien

[distant salmon]

i did notice the wheels of the chinook arent even centered on the axis..

[real roost]

are the models made in house or bought from cgtrader,etc?

[twilit nimbus]

They do it themselves

It’s called WIP
The models might be from cgtrader but you gotta redo the textures

[cerulean sleet]

The chinook is a placeholder texture

[real roost]

im specifically talking about the models so thank you

a lot of stuff has a matte finish to it though

[bitter kestrel]

What’s the map mod with the shoot house

[undone pivot]

We are working on everything in a timely matter we have alot on our plate at the moment

The initial release of the Blackhawks and chinook was mearly a test the functions and various tests need

They where not polished and now with the initial test completed we are going in and fine tuning everything and polishing the textures

[half sand]

Just asking why not polish them before release but still be able to test them like some other mods out there

[undone pivot]

We are not other mods out there

We are taking our time to perfect it to our standards
And were not our top priority

[knotty swan]

Are the darkgru guys aware some of their belts are gone and dont function

[hardy zodiac]

Yes.

I just haven't had the time to go in and fix them. Bohemia has done a lot of fiddling with their backend daily so Everytime we make changes we have to sit on them for a few days to see if the change improved, didn't change, or deteriorated performance.

[polar gale]

Are you lovely people planning on making a nato counterpart to the PLA 40m launcher. don't know if it's been asked or not don't want to beat a dead horse

[sullen edge]

When are the black hawks going to be fixed as well as the Chinook?

[hardy zodiac]

Someday

[polar gale]

Oooh

[pale flint]

Is the viper ever going to get updated?

[hardy zodiac]

Yes.

[whole fern]

anyone know what mod adds the gunned z-11's?

[tepid cairn]

The Z-11

[whole fern]

i cant find the gunned ones in the files though, but its this one right?

[tepid cairn]

Harbin Z-11 exactly

Yea that’s it, it has different variations in GM that have minigun door gunners and rocket pods

[whole fern]

i dont have them in my game though even though the mod is in, and i dont see it on the vehicles section of the faction manager either

[leaden sphinx]

I suggest adding RU/NATO Overhaul to your modlist as well

[whole fern]

these are all i see in prefabs

and the z-11 folder is empty

[whole fern]

what does this one do, i got 81 mods already

[leaden sphinx]

I dunno exactly but I know that you can use the DarkGru boat mod by itself but if you have NATO Overhaul enabled then you get guns on them so perhaps its a similar way

[whole fern]

Could you link me to the mod?

[lunar yoke]

https://reforger.armaplatform.com/workshop/60AD58012EA4A317-DarkgruNATOOverhaul

@whole fern

[hardy zodiac]

Typically armed variants of our vehicles require the NATO overhaul by design.
I've been arranging the vehicle mods in such a way that if someone were to desire to make an armed variant that didn't use our special shit in the NATO pack they could simply do it. All the tools are in the vehicle packs.

So for example you could run our boat mod without the NATO pack installed in the event your server preferred say: RHS or TFM. If you wanted a gunboat you would simply need to either add the turrets yourself or have someone do it.

It's in a way obnoxious but it also saves a massive amount of space and reduces the need for dependencies for people who don't want to run them.

[wanton mountain]

Hey, I don’t know if this has been brought to the creator’s attention but the DARKGRU NATO overhaul mod is broken due to a dependency that’s broken (DARKGRU HELICOPTERS) is all I noticed but it could be more. Just wanted to throw it out there

[uneven drum]

Yeah had to pull it from my servers too due to that

[wanton mountain]

Puts our server in a crash loop when it’s added the log associated says this

03:33:51.716 ENGINE (E): Addon 'PLAHelicopterPack' dependency '62111096C5A64AC0' can't be added 03:33:51.716 ENGINE (E): Addon 'NATOHaulPack' dependency '61D7354031940E7B' can't be added 03:33:51.716 ENGINE (E): Cannot initialize game project settings!

Unsure what the second ID is that ends in “64ACO”, couldn’t find anything. If I do I’ll post it; I restarted the server without it and my whole kit disappeared lol

[wanton mountain]

Yeah. This wouldn’t be something you could put out a simple fix for eh?

[uneven drum]

Nah, and I think they are aware of it, just gotta pull it till they fix it

[wanton mountain]

“64ACO” is the “DRIVE-BY” mod. No idea how this the Darkgru Helicopters mod; but that’s the 2nd mod

[wanton mountain]

True that

[exotic root]

It’s due to their new little bird, it uses drive-by as a dependency to allow shooting from it

[stuck crest]

for some reason you can only shoot from the armed littlebird tho

[wanton mountain]

Oh, gotcha

[bronze creek]

Why would you guys put the attack little bird to the FIA heli pad and not the US one?

[lunar yoke]

Because there not meant to be bought on the buy boards

[bronze creek]

That’s just 💩

[lunar yoke]

I'm sure if you'd like to have it the way that fits / suits you, blender is free so are the other modding tools out there!

[bronze creek]

Okay

Just kind of baffles me that Z-11 is a Chinese little bird and you get it from the buy board on USSR side

[bronze creek]

So did you guys completely remove the AH-6

Never mind the USSR reskin Z-11 overwrites the AH-6

[exotic root]

There is also a standalone AH6/MH6 mod out now too with a non ripped texture and mesh too

[hardy zodiac]

You cannot buy the attack Z11 on the buyboards either.

Your crash with "Drive By" Is due to a load order conflict with one of two mods.
Tactical Animations Overhaul
Or Dragger

There may be another one out there im unaware of. Basically "Drive By" needs to be in a certain spot in your json in relation to those other two mods. I don't know where as we don't use either of those mods.

But I can assure you it doesn't crash servers without that confliction in animation overrides. Our servers have been running with drive by since 3 days after it came out.

[bronze creek]

Idk what you’re going on about crashes I’ve never mentioned anything about that

[lunar yoke]

He probably responded to the wrong person as above your messages references crashes

[hardy zodiac]

@wanton mountain I am releasing an update to remove the Drive By dependency. Should be out within the hour if all goes well.

[wanton mountain]

Thank you!

My logs were saying that both drive by and Darkgru helicopters were causing errors. Will removing drive by fix both of those?

[hardy zodiac]

Should.

[wanton mountain]

Heard that; I’ll lyk if my server starts once the update rolls out

[wanton mountain]

Server started just fine, thank you again!

[tribal gulch]

Heyho, someone else got the problem that DarkGru Helicopters won't update?🤔

[exotic root]

It’s potentially a corrupted download, delete the mod and reinstall

[tribal gulch]

tried several times, didn't fix it

running atm those darkgru mods:

Darkgru Helicopters
Darkgru Helmet Pack
Darkgru Core
Darkgru Boats
Darkgru Operators
Darkgru NATO Overhaul
Darkgru RU Overhaul Pack

[hardy zodiac]

Bohemia is prepping for an update so it's backend will be wonky at times.
Your issue is likely related to that

[tribal gulch]

Ok, well I tried to put stuff on my test server, it won´t download anything till I take out Nato Overhaul :/
But Darkgru Helicopters won´t update to 1.1.14 (it´s still on 1.0.22)

[tribal gulch]

Ok, found the problem, I didn´t realized that the Harbin mod now have the name Darkgru helicopters.. that´s why I got the mod twice in the jason and that´s why my server also didn´t start with the Nato overhaul pack^^

[hardy zodiac]

Sorry man

[wanton mountain]

@hardy zodiac 03:33:51.716 ENGINE (E): Addon 'PLAHelicopterPack' dependency '62111096C5A64AC0' can't be added 03:33:51.716 ENGINE (E): Addon 'NATOHaulPack' dependency '61D7354031940E7B' can't be added 03:33:51.716 ENGINE (E): Cannot initialize game project settings!

Same error is back :(

[hardy zodiac]

Bohemia is having backend issues so that may be related. Try adding those two mods into your JSON manually

[wanton mountain]

No luck

[wanton mountain]

Nvm, got it resolved. Wasn't a darkgru issue

[leaden sphinx]

error ingame

mods enabled, just darkgru mods w their dependencies + map

Mods effected by sample weapon

@hardy zodiac @cerulean sleet for when yall get off holiday break

[cerulean sleet]

what is this doing?

[leaden sphinx]

Stopping me from loading up solo gm

[cerulean sleet]

oh, yea have no idea tbh we dont generally test singleplayer we can take a look at some point!

[leaden sphinx]

Would help whenever you guys are able, was feeling in the mood for DarkGru photos with the new vests lol

[cerulean sleet]

damn i mean our event server may be open and its GM so nobodies in it

[hardy zodiac]

Remove Darkgru Core @leaden sphinx

[fast flicker]

Hej Aussie Merc, sorry for talking about this again, could you please help me out with this? :S (You can send me a DM so that the channel remains clear)

[knotty swan]

Hey mittens how do you find your vest mod ive tried to type it in. Its being difficult

[midnight zealot]

If still up, join a server with it, could be the same issue strider has been having with it delisting stuff

[knotty swan]

Ahh ok

[restive crypt]

You should really get rid of this sample mod dependency it is making a real mess as it is declared in every other weapons mods or so

in my humble opinion 🙏

[hardy zodiac]

Bohemia updates their stuff regularly so rather than going through the process of re-up loading updated animations and such it's ALOT easier to just make the sample weapon mod a dependency as all those bullpup animations are kept to date.

The last update animations are messed with prior to this recent it was a huge mess trying to get everything working again. This made it simple.

If other mods are being messed with by the sample mod it's because they were too lazy to change the animation names to the sample animations they got from the GitHub. If this is the case and I did the same you would still run into issues.

[restive crypt]

main issue is declaring multiple times the sample_mod magazine script actually

this prevent solo testing with other mods, and so refrain server owners I know from even getting the idea of testing on their server

but I get the part where it's easier for you

[hardy zodiac]

That's an issue of the other mod developer uploading a mod with sample mod magazine in their mod.

Of which there's no reason to upload that script

[real roost]

is this mod still working?

[sly saffron]

yes

[tired pawn]

How did I just find this lol

[cerulean sleet]

oh billy

[bitter zodiac]

Do this shoot house work or is it a mod or map

[cerulean sleet]

shoothouse is updated but its having issues so i need to republish it likely

[bitter zodiac]

Is it a mod or map

[lavish kettle]

Waiting for updates on the new drop

[vale grove]

Hey I'm curious are the darkgru boats updated ik that they are under a different name now I'm just not sure if it is managed here, if not can somebody point me in the right direction if possible? Thank you

[cerulean sleet]

i cant remember if we got back to it or not

[orchid dragon]

Does darkgru make the Modular vests? I remember them being a darkgru mod but I'm not sure if that's changed, if they are, the Modular vests dont have any armour so you go down in one hit to the chest, is this something that's a bug or intentional?

[sly saffron]

Modular vests dont have armor value because of repeated complaints on our servers of enemies not dying.

This might change in the future

[bitter zodiac]

The modular

[orchid dragon]

Ah I see thank you very much 👌

[loud dust]

So how do I edit vests in the arma tools? May be a bit much to ask but could I get visual instructions like a screenshot or a screen recording?

[hardy zodiac]

You use bacon Loadout Editor in the server

[loud dust]

I mean the tools, I’m making a mod

[sleek junco]

does the operator weapon pack have any known conflicts, im trying to get it to work for a private server but as soon as almost any other mod is active the stuff dissapears from the arsenal/ bacon editor

or is there another mod needed to get it to work, i might be missing something that im not aware of

[midnight zealot]

Does your mod list have WCS Arsenal?

[midnight dock]

Yes could that be the problem with frame drops?

[midnight zealot]

That hides everything not on the WCS server. Take off that mod and you will have more in your arsenals etc.

Frame drops is likely just poorly optimised mods. Not much can be done from an end user perspective for that.

[midnight dock]

Gotcha we’ve had an issue with it since the first. Standing around fine but as soon as AI/player percentage went to 30% frame drops even in GM or far away from and when you would look at them it would just tank frames even more

[midnight zealot]

I would look at the modlist and then go through the mods one by one and see if they have LOD meshes etc and if they have massive poly meshes. All of those things will tank frames.

[midnight dock]

Like prop mods or effects mods sorry not very skilled in code stuff

[midnight zealot]

Anything with 3d models, ai mods can also tank if too much is spawned etc.

Its a different ballgame in MP etc.

[midnight dock]

Gotcha yeah the only thing we had down at one point were the boxes, & the “character” budget was 30% tanked frames

[sleek junco]

Not that I’m aware of, should I have it?

[sleek junco]

I do have a lot of mods active but even when I ran it with very few mods it still wouldn’t work unless I specifically only have the operator weapon pack, everything arsenal and bacon loadout editor. I have tried to get it to work with WCS weapons, caps weapon pack/ CDD and GRS, most of the weapons that rely on bacon suppressors (m110, m17 and that sort of stuff) and a few other mods that I can’t remember off the top of my head

I accidentally got it to work one time when it was the only weapon pack active but seems like almost any other weapon mod will make it disappear

[cerulean sleet]

The operator stuff hides in the fia arsenal

[potent lily]

Not sure if this is the same creator as the Modular vest pack that uses the DarkGru clothes, but Is there a fix to restore the inventory for the AI? They spawn with 1 mag and no medical equipment either. I can use the Zeliks characters with the clothes and it’s fine, but the vest mod removes items.

[cerulean sleet]

It was originally from a DarkGru dev but he left and branded the pack away from us. I’m unsure if there is any future plans on the pack

[potent lily]

That’s alright then, appreciate the reply:)

[hollow bear]

Does anyone know if the soar helicopters mod still works? I tried it and it doesn't appear on my server. It's true that I only have this Darkgru mod. I don't know if I need anything else.

[grim magnet]

Is your discord server public

[tired pawn]

The darkgru discord?

[grim magnet]

Yes

[tired pawn]

Yes it’s public