Fallujah

[solemn wave]

Yooooo

[fading grove]

it will be a little crazy

[solemn wave]

Your doing the whole thing ?

Gawd damn

[fading grove]

My job will be very difficult. but i will succeed

[livid hatch]

@mellow rapids

[mellow rapids]

Oh wow

[solemn wave]

I pray for you

[frail jasper]

@urban tangle @late bridge mmmmm 🤤🤤🤤🤤

[urban tangle]

Oh shit

[rancid solar]

Hell yeah good luck man

[sour crown]

Is the map goin to be big?

[fading grove]

yeah 4096

[whole panther]

Im shitting myself and pissing at the same time because of how proud i am🫡

[sour crown]

Is that big big or like Everon big? (I’m dumb asf so bare with me XD)

[whole panther]

I too have questions kiok if you don't mind me asking

[whole panther]

I believe that's 4 kilometers

[fading grove]

you can ask

[desert forge]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-pointing-point-another-one-gif-17954831

[pseudo tiger]

4096 = 64x64 km?

[whole panther]

Gee wiz

[pseudo tiger]

Not even sure reforger can handle a detailed map of that size tbh. Especially with all the custom modelling needed

Maybe by the time it is done, reforger will be more powerful lol

[whole panther]

First question that maybe some others are wondering, will you do an outer bit of the map with a military base, maybe an airport base and a highway/freeway around certain parts?

[pseudo tiger]

Unless its a 4x4 map, maybe, but the city of fallujah is like 9km2 itself

[eternal quartz]

GYAT

[whole panther]

GYAT

[lost crag]

GYAT

[odd thorn]

I tried taking my hand at Making Fallujah

[sleek oasis]

i swear @fading grove is going create every province of afghan and merge them

[odd thorn]

Got 6 blocks and a police station done then gave up, was 25x25 KM at the time with both the city itself and an airfield, a gulf, and many small villages, for every type of insertion method/fight imaginable

Can't wait to see this map recreated in all it's glory

[whole panther]

This iraq bro

[sleek oasis]

i forgot fallujah was in iraq

[west canopy]

Oh this'll be fun

[royal parcel]

Let’s get it

[slim geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-hell-yeah-stone-cold-steve-austin-gif-15427202

[true mantle]

once u get this done we gotta get some 2004 maine gear

which should’jt be too hard

[zenith dome]

This is definitely gonna be one of the best reforger maps

[true mantle]

wait are you making the entire city?

[grim ermine]

god bless Kiok i just know this’ll be beautiful

[urban tangle]

Highway of death?!?!? 👀

[unborn spruce]

i though reforger couldn’t handle that size?

[west canopy]

Reforger can do up to 80x80 km iirc

[pearl wind]

Oh yes!?

[silent dock]

But can Xbox handle it with mods? Now that’s the real question. hopefully it can🙃

[unborn spruce]

well there might be problems for xbox users with lots of mods, if this is gonna be bigger than zimnitria then you’ll probably be limited to only a handful of mods otherwise ground disappears.

[west canopy]

Is this gonna be bugger than zimnitrita?

[urban tangle]

This is only speculation but im pretty sure map size is only an issue when that map also relies on modded assets within that size

[fading grove]

are you serious. does it just disappear on xbox

[urban tangle]

chernarus run fine with a full mod load because the assets are either integrated into the mod or already exist

Only my take though don't know if it actually is true

[unborn spruce]

on the one ukraine map yeah if you have too many mods the ground won’t load

[unborn spruce]

what are the dimensions of the map?

[fading grove]

4096*4096

[urban tangle]

Meters?

[fading grove]

now i'm skeptical. If there is a possibility that it will not work, it means trouble.

[unborn spruce]

if that’s 426km squared that might be almost double the size of zimnitria

[slim geyser]

Maybe have to cut the map down? Xbox players tend to have a lot of issues with huge maps

[west canopy]

I dunno why Zimnitrita is like that and it's been awhile since I tested it. But Chernarus runs fine with mods, so who knows

[slim geyser]

Chernarus was solid, just takes forever for servers to download it but worth it

[west canopy]

It really is. I think this should be fine

[unborn spruce]

maybe it’s something to do with the dense forests and big city in zimnitria, chernarus is pretty empty.

[cunning meteor]

Just seen this and this is hype! Now we just need some early 2000’s USMC gear and we are solid

[west canopy]

I wonder if the dependencies for Zimnitrita freak out the game for some reason

[odd thorn]

Chernarus has loads more content than Zimnitrita, and covers over three times as much landmass in terms of completed area

I think it has to do with the custom stuff used in the map that the servers need to load

[unborn spruce]

doubt it if it loads fine with them, anyways i guess we’ll just have to see with fallujah, worst comes to worst maybe it’ll be able to run with a few mods.

[frigid arch]

.

[pseudo tiger]

This size of map should be fine as long as the LOD settings are used correctly. If instead of modelling things at a base level, maybe use a model pack for prefabs which is a little less laggy.

[unborn spruce]

Yeah I think the size might be ok, just hope performance is decent in a big city.

[scarlet cradle]

Cross fingers for good AI here 😄

[west canopy]

He's most likely learned what not to do with Kunar

[gray bane]

surely Xbox players can play on this map

[old patio]

The whole thing? Holy fuckin shit, im exited

Will xbox be able to handle it though?

[old patio]

Really do be the highway of death

[tiny shoal]

Im hoping it does

[minor basin]

Reeeeeally excited for this. 👀

[cyan nova]

Wasnt that in Kuwait?

[old patio]

Went from Kuwait to Iraq

[cyan nova]

Yes

[sleek oasis]

i thought thats in mw 2019

[old patio]

The Highway of Death was a real thing

[cyan nova]

Not really related to Battle of Fallujah tho, considering Highway of Death was a 1991 thing and Fallijah was in 2004

[indigo mango]

lfg

[cunning meteor]

Yeah but honestly to me at least anything Iraq/Gulf War is super cool anything related to it I will gladly take in the game

[minor basin]

Oh god my dad fought in this, I look forward to this man thank you

[tiny shoal]

GO KIOK!

[karmic jasper]

Exciting

[karmic jasper]

Arma 3 flashback

[fading grove]

you can post a reference photo

[karmic jasper]

I would cut out that island portion and the top left. And just have the city with some desert for FOBs ect

[fading grove]

Usually the city will not be large, the desert portions will be large. It will be an airbase. There will be areas for tank battles. there will be desert outposts

[karmic jasper]

The city itself is know for its mass. I think the biggest decision here is how large. We will wait how ever long it takes if that's the case.

[true mantle]

maybe ur next vehicle could be a LAV25s cuz the marines from what ive seen mostly used lav25s but i may not be correct im definitely not a historian

[fading grove]

Above all, the support of the community is important. In the next step, I will need to import the large building models into the enfusion emgin. Building destruction will come in the next big update to the reformer. With his arrival, I will start porting the building. now there are structures in the kunar land they village buildings remain small

[grave heart]

Nice, squishy houses are my favorite

[west canopy]

Tbh Fallujah isn't even that big, the reason it is known as such a big city is because when you kick in every door of every building in said city it might as well be a megacity from something like judge dredd

[karmic jasper]

Fallujah is fucking huge wdym?

[karmic jasper]

It's the density of the housing

[cyan nova]

Only about 5x6km

[cyan nova]

Thats exactly what Rattle was saying

[fading grove]

https://tenor.com/view/crycat-crying-cat-crying-cat-thumbs-up-thumbs-up-ok-gif-22851318

[karmic jasper]

Ah

[west canopy]

Yeah on a map it's pretty small, ofc maps don't convey much and when yer fighting over every inch of it, it seems colossal

[cyan nova]

Especially when you as a 6ft tall individual is on street level

[west canopy]

Yep

[karmic jasper]

So a nice 50/50 city desert split

[rancid solar]

I would assume that Kiok is going to make the desert area surrounding Fallujah too. And even if it is not as big as the Kunar map, I sure that a ton of people in the community would be greatful

[cyan nova]

Yes, i’m simply proving that the city itself isnt as big as people think it is

[west canopy]

Nah it still should be fairly large for a map, iirc Fallujah is like 69 square klicks, and with surrounding areas likely more

[cyan nova]

36km2 approximately per my screenshot (6x6km)

[west canopy]

Still that's roughly the size of the Kunar terrain, like I said, plenty of space for ops

Also if some of the greener areas by the river are included you could probably do some 2003-style ops

[odd thorn]

Did he mention how big the map is going to be?

He said something about 4x4 KM, but thats way too small to bring out the true potential of this Terrain, and the areas surrounding it (Like an Airfield and a Gulf)

[cyan nova]

Where would you fit a gulf? Fallujah is quite far inland

[odd thorn]

Heres a map of Fallujah and the area surrounding
If the map were bigger then the city itself could just be a setpiece to an otherwise perfect terrain
The only thing it wouldnt have is Mountains, which are unnecessary anyways

Open fields, dense palm forests, a large river, a huge city, multiple smaller establishments, and an airport

[cyan nova]

Thats a lake

[odd thorn]

Yes
Doesnt stop it from having boats

[cyan nova]

I suppose

[visual vine]

https://tenor.com/view/boss-gatsby-cheers-leonardo-di-caprio-great-gatsby-gif-5071053

@fading grove ❤️
Keep up the awesome work!

[whole panther]

Yes

[eternal quartz]

What is that

[odd thorn]

A helipad....

[eternal quartz]

Dont you …. Me, ill do a murder

Looks good!

[whole panther]

?

[odd thorn]

Its a quick and easy way to mark a helicopter landing zone if all you have are sticks and stones
Its easier and safer in a dangerous area than a proper elevated landing pad, which in themselves arent used all that often

In short, its a helipad

[whole panther]

Thats the crashed plane at NWAF on DayZ isn't?

[fading grove]

arma c130

[cyan nova]

Nice C-130J

[fading grove]

hangar ruins model (arma sample)

[scenic holly]

Did you make a mod that had all these assists for others to use by chance?

[fading grove]

No. If you've noticed, I'm constantly adding to it.

[sour crown]

NAH THATS FUCKIN SICK

[whole panther]

Im guessing this will be the US airbase

[rancid solar]

https://tenor.com/view/america-iran-iraq-war-this-gif-20442209

[whole panther]

Questions mr kiok, will you make more clothing or vehicles especially with this map, like marines or like a iraqi insurgent group that would fit in instead of the current Taliban mods

[cunning meteor]

Phenomenal movie, you already know ima be rolling in just like that on this map

[hollow drift]

Will every building be enterable including the apartments

[karmic jasper]

Heli spawn point???

[visual vine]

Nah, just heli landing area (heli-pad)

[karmic jasper]

Nice

[whole panther]

Very nice

[celest obsidian]

Looks nice

[rancid solar]

Looking great man 🔥

[oblique vine]

Can’t wait for this map

[shrewd mulch]

That looks like the operation rhino air field

[unborn spruce]

i know it’s the wrong country but hopefully one day we’ll get c130s and can do something similar on this map

[shrewd mulch]

No man looks pimp kinda wanted to do sum like that love the map

[sweet holly]

.

[tiny shoal]

@copper willow

[rancid solar]

👁️👁️

[shrewd mulch]

Dose anyone know someone that can make a pasgt with a marpat cover bc my unit is 2004 and currently have none

But arid marpat

[true mantle]

Yall would be using IBAs /Inteceptor stuff

[whole panther]

Also wouldn't it be tan or a coyote brown

[cunning meteor]

Depended soldier to soldier, who had new gear who didn’t. Some woodland some tan

[true mantle]

most soldiers in fallujah had a mix of camos

[cunning meteor]

So best would be make IBA in tan/coyote brown and PASGT in woodland

[true mantle]

some the old desert uniform with. Marpat helmets and shit it was all mixed

[cunning meteor]

To be fair most of Early Iraq was in general, mix of marpat and desert tri and woodland and whole bunch

[true mantle]

ye

[plain yew]

Damn so it's finally becoming a thing? Thank you @fading grove!! I've been waiting to put tan/desert camoed clothes to use

[north basin]

I'll continue to impatiently wait for this map

[shrewd mulch]

Fr

[tiny shoal]

Cant wait to ride in the streets of Fallujah and RTB to this airfield

[true mantle]

urban warfarw with Ashyls new stuff is gonna be insanely cool

[zenith dome]

This is gonna be 1 hella fun map

[shrewd mulch]

Can’t wait for this

[oblique vine]

Cant wait to have the most intense street to street fights imaginable on this map

[eternal quartz]

Homie isnt okay

[shrewd mulch]

Fr

Look a the guy in the back

[unreal burrow]

Why’s he got the iron sights on the bottom rail 😂

[steep portal]

A carry hand is a carry handle lol.

[odd thorn]

That's not iron sights, it's a Carry Handle
Just so happens the iron sights on older M16s and M4s were built INTO the Carry handle

[true mantle]

every pic i see makes me want older marine and us army gear more

[odd thorn]

He did it to make it easier to hold his rifle, scuffed foregrip where he keeps his fingers steady between the barrel and carry handle, id assume

[unreal burrow]

Carry handle, iron sights inside of it

[true mantle]

nah he holds his M16 upside down those are his iron sights

[urban tangle]

I call it the Bren-16 lol

[west canopy]

Oh yeah I've heard of this, apparently around this time they started getting ACOGs and such but were still required to keep their carry handle just in case the ACOG failed, so they would do stuff like this (this is how I have heard it, may be off)

[stuck heart]

I'm sure he put it there so he won't lose it if he put in a bag or pouch somewhere

[frail cobalt]

what is the decisive point that it no longer loads? is it the size of the map or the objects placed??

[unborn spruce]

honestly not sure, but it works fine without mods.

[frail cobalt]

Kk, thanks.

[urban tangle]

I have yet to confirm this theory but it believe it might just be the mod including too many assets from other mods as dependent

[frail cobalt]

So ur idea/thinking is, the mods do the trouble ? And the console can’t handle it

[urban tangle]

My thinking is that a map that already has to load dependencies on top of your mods to the console creates these issues. I only have anecdotal evidence of how it worked out for me though so I may very well be wrong

[frail cobalt]

if it works for you, great!
Whether it's wrong or right doesn't matter, at least I have a direction I can think in should it come to that. Thanks

[cedar onyx]

up to 32x32 is the current practical limit for the engine

[sudden turtle]

it would not be a woodland pasgt those are already in the game you would need desert marpat MCCUUS desert marpat LWH and PASGT helmet and woodland IBAS and coyote IBAS

[void light]

Mountains are super important for occluders and optimization

[cedar onyx]

if the structures have good LODs hopefully we don't suffer too much

we will suffer, though

[west canopy]

Yeah but can also be awful if ya want to build a realistic fallujah

[west canopy]

Oh my bad, tbh I don't even remember why I said 80x80

[cedar onyx]

I imported Japan (forgot hokkaido) scaled down to 3% which ended up being around 64x64 km and it imported but was not usable

[west canopy]

Casually forgetting an entire island lol

[pearl wind]

God damn bacon 😂 that a big one

[cedar onyx]

the issue is when you go past the 32 x 32 km point on the map (middle of Bacon's Japan v0.1) and look around the terrain stops being visible

hence the 32x32 km practical limit

[west canopy]

Right yeah makes sense

[urban tangle]

Operation downfall campaign on this would go crazy lol

[cedar onyx]

more like operation dashboard everyone

[solemn wave]

I was watching some six days in fallujah gameplay I'm so fucking hype for this to come out

[candid tangle]

@fading grove good to see i'm not the only one still working on a fallujah map in the BI universe. 🙂

[peak pine]

That's from arma 3?

[odd thorn]

Yep! Iirc his rendition of Fallujah has almost no buildings you cant go inside of, and is about as accurate as the city can get to Arma with the building assets available for the map

Its a very good one

[strange hollow]

Is your mod in enfusion showcase? Or showroom?

[odd thorn]

Its on Arma 3

[frail cobalt]

This Channel is for Enfusion Engine / Arma Reforger. So, noone working on Reforger Fallujah?

[odd thorn]

Kiok is

[frail cobalt]

ah okay, i was a lil scared for the moment

[odd thorn]

TrueDolphin was comparing the two by sending a screenshot of his Arma 3 map, Fallujah, because he was impressed someone took up the mantle, which is Kiok, making Fallujah

[frail cobalt]

How many Buildings are on the Fallujah map?

[odd thorn]

On the Arma 3 one its over 1000 entities iirc

Whereas on the Reforger one we dont know yet
Kiok said its only 4x4 KM, which isnt alot of space whatsoever, unfortunately

[frail cobalt]

Nice

[cedar onyx]

its plenty for an arland sized city

[odd thorn]

The city itself iirc was about just that size, 3.5x3.5 KM

[cedar onyx]

depends on how far I go on google maps it might be a 10x10 tile but for the purposes of the video game you could do a bit smaller

[peak pine]

I just hope the city doesn't have like world boundaries cutting it off...

[candid tangle]

Incorrect... Dayz.

And at last check... There's 300ish buildings across the map that aren't enterable in mine.
Over 4k you can.
It's a A2 port with permission from the og owner with..."poetic licencing".

[candid tangle]

It's really just nice knowing more than just I want Fallujah in future BI titles.

[cedar onyx]

I would love to see any city map, but I'm scared a map like fallujah will be very flat

[final token]

There are several reasons why.

1. Most obvious - not to lose it (they have to give it back as they have received it)
2. As a handy tool to handing over weapons after climbing over obstacles.
   3.As a backup sight because acogs were useless on CQ encounters. ( like army has their MaTech-s)

Most grunts were leaving them on large personal rucks but as you can see there was a few 😛

[jade wasp]

By the time this comes out the reforger update will be out combine the PASGT with punkys Usmc mod ah smells like early gwot. A grenade in every room and a cap in every ass

[rancid solar]

Hell yeah as it should be

[left sinew]

thread cleanup, infractions and bans applied, don't turn it into a meme again if you wanna stick around

[zenith dome]

Is it just you working on this?

[minor basin]

Yall mfs only seen this now

[left sinew]

might wanna look over the #rules before addressing anyone on this discord server that way again

[whole panther]

What's to be the size of this map again?

Is it 64x64, 20x20 or 9x9 because I've heard mixed results

[cunning meteor]

^ also wondering the same heard mixed results as well

[grim ermine]

i remember KIOK saying somewhere around 4096*4096 which is like 64x64km iirc

[whole panther]

Yeah i remember him saying that but i thought maybe he shrunk it because of arma reforgers limitations

[grim ermine]

I won’t speak for KIOK cause I haven’t been nearly active enough in this thread to confirm that - i’d assume if that was the case though it would be due to some weird limitation with xbox’s not liking too many custom assets in a map

[cedar onyx]

this is in meters, so arland size

4x4 is 16km2 by the way, not 64x64 (where did you get this number from? )

[whole panther]

Oh 16ks squared, that sounds more reasonable😂

[grim ermine]

american big brain maffs

[cedar onyx]

in your units then 4x4 or arland would be equivalent to roughly 2990 football fields, give or take 10 cheeseburgers

[grim ermine]

thanks for converting that for me I was having difficulty wrapping my head around it

[cyan nova]

But how many bananas?

[cedar onyx]

if we're assuming that the average value of measured surface area of a banana was 181.48 cm2 (Some physical properties of full-ripe banana fruit (Cavendish variety) M. S. Firouz, R. Alimardani, M. Omid) then the surface area of this map would be 881639850.121 bananas

[cyan nova]

[karmic jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/tf-you-said-gif-20255278

[visual vine]

Lol

[light mulch]

KIOK fr carrying map mods

[oblique vine]

Casually using a banana for scale… anyway, can’t wait for this map

[cedar onyx]

Kunar is an amazing map, so already set the bar pretty high for this one

[jade wasp]

Agreed

Imagine a conflict game in just a city

[eternal quartz]

Just wait until the A-10 releases.. would be dope to call in gun runs on the city

[serene marsh]

wtf that looks sick, japan wars!

[grim ermine]

boys I know what i’ll be doing in Iraq later

[minor basin]

On top of the taliban ai that gives the chefs kiss definitely gonna take timeeeee

[jade wasp]

The kit is ready for Fallujah

[visual vine]

Helmet not so much but I like the enthusiasm lol

[jade wasp]

Couldn’t find a mod with lwh marpat desert

[eternal quartz]

Use the Task Force Wolf Helmet

[rancid solar]

Sheesh

[cunning meteor]

Yeah hopefully someone makes a full desert marpat marines uni mod including the helmet, would be cool to have one with the goggles on top too like that

[jade wasp]

Agreed just the map the uniforms it’s all coming together

[tired cloud]

So we even have any camo for 2003 -2006

We need some of this

[tough glade]

Is that DCU?

[visual vine]

Tri-Color Desert

[eternal quartz]

Closest i can get to a Fallujah outfit

(Used Desert Marpat because it blended with the helmet better)

||mods it is on topic please||

[cyan nova]

Thats the same thing, Tri-colour Desert was the camo pattern for the DCU

[queen pagoda]

If you want some inspiration heres a few camos from a couple militaries

first 3 is American DCU hasnt been used in a minute but its still nice. most militaries moved to kinda “all terrain” like OCP and British MTP or just multi cam.

Second 3 is british DPM

third 3 is Canadian CADPAT basically just marpat but a slightly different color pattern

Not to sure what this is called but it’s supposedly Modern russian desert Camo, would be nice if someone makes it for these modern russian mods for these Afghan/iraq or just desert maps in general

[west canopy]

Ah the pink uniforms

[eternal quartz]

It would look better if the 3 Desert Camo Mod actually worked and i could use the Arid PASGT Helmet that would fit Vergy’s Multicam Arid Clothes

[jade wasp]

was us forces still using dcu I know most of the Usmc was switched over to marpat by 2002-2003 idk about army though

[cunning meteor]

Marpat didn’t get introduced until around 03 almost all of the USMC was using DCU in 03 and for the initial invasion of Iraq from what I’ve seen marpat wasn’t becoming popular until after troops had reached Baghdad and 04 and the first battle of Fallujah and all that

[jade wasp]

Didn’t the second battle start in 03 though

[cunning meteor]

No we didn’t even invade iraq until 03 the first battle was in 04 the second was 06 if I remember correctly

Ok I looked it up the 2nd was also in 04 apparently, it started in November not sure why I was thinking 06

[jade wasp]

Same reason I thought it was 03 confusing different battles

[cunning meteor]

Probably, Iraq was a very interesting conflict

[jade wasp]

Ramadi was 04-06 I’m pretty sure

[cunning meteor]

I was probably thinking 06 because of either Ramadi or Saddam’s capture

[jade wasp]

Plt Sgt said Ramadi was a hell hole

[cunning meteor]

Yeah from what I’ve heard the whole triangle of death was hell

[jade wasp]

True I’m just hype to have a city map

[cunning meteor]

Same

[fading grove]

I'm going through a bit of a rough time. I have jobs such as moving to different cities and houses. I can't look at the map these days, I will continue as soon as possible

[rancid solar]

Best of luck man 🙏🏼

[cunning meteor]

No worry’s! Best of luck to you

[jade wasp]

Good luck man

[regal delta]

Where’s the stache from?

[eternal quartz]

Wolf Gear

[regal delta]

Thanks

[solemn wave]

https://tenor.com/view/generation-kill-police-that-mustache-gif-9762598

[charred dagger]

Does expanded us faction still work it added the old 80’s us desert camo

[rancid tiger]

I'm gonna need to know how to make that kit

[eternal quartz]

Vergy Military Gear
Task Force Mattock Uniform
WolfGear2
PASGT Vest

[desert forge]

All I’m saying is I’m ready to get shot down in a bird on this map and do a black hawk down even if I get fucked up by my command

[scarlet dawn]

M16 name mod

[rancid tiger]

Appreciate

[jade wasp]

M16a4 project I believe

[eternal quartz]

Im ready

[visual vine]

Which mods are those from?

[cyan nova]

Needs the 3-Colour Desert Trouser and Shirt

[desert forge]

Fr

[neon temple]

Nice caterpillar

[eternal quartz]

The Expanded US Gear from Reforged Studio + Vanilla PASGT Vest and Alice Belt + Modded Gloves

[eternal quartz]

As you can see in the photo posted by Davey Jones. I feel the tri-desert color mod thing is way too bright for the desert maps we have like Kunar. The Chocolate Chip camo i use blends better into the environment

[west canopy]

The chocolate chip works better but is period inaccurate, tbh we just need a better 3-color desert

[eternal quartz]

Or use Vergy Military Gear

[cunning meteor]

Ya it’s super bright I wish it was darker. Mine also doesn’t work in general, the ai won’t spawn to get the gear off of since it isn’t in the arsenal box

[unborn spruce]

vergys doesn’t have tri-color

[eternal quartz]

He has Arid Multicam

[peak pine]

Italian troops are also ready for this mahyem 💪💪

[scarlet dawn]

M4 name mod

[sleek oasis]

probablys rivers

[small spire]

It is not

[desert forge]

That’s the og m4 mod

[cunning meteor]

I’m 90% sure that’s the one from the British forces pack

[torpid holly]

Same looks like outta the British pack

[celest obsidian]

It is

L119A1 w 15.7inch barrel

[solemn wave]

British forces pack

It also has a 240 with no heat gaurd

[cyan nova]

FN MAG*

[solemn wave]

Close enough

[celest obsidian]

It's basically the same 🥲

[oblique flower]

Shĥh don't say that. I did and I got slapped by multiple people stating it was nothing alike 🙃

[celest obsidian]

Oop

[odd thorn]

Yeah, one is simply better
And more Free

[solemn wave]

💥🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸💥

[light mulch]

May not be Mogadishu but Blackhawk down is getting recreated at some point on this map

[jade wasp]

Isn’t someone working on a Mogadishu map?

[odd thorn]

Not anymore

[light mulch]

Nope

[jade wasp]

Oof I thought I saw it on the workshop

[urban tangle]

Any progress pictures of this?

[karmic jasper]

Good things take time

[fading grove]

Friends, I have to remake the map. I will reduce the size a little

[whole panther]

Very nice👍nice to know your back at it again

[frank basin]

What size was it

[desert forge]

To big for most players (aka Xbox and people with shit pcs)

[frank basin]

Yea how big is that

[desert forge]

Zimatra big idk I will look

[fading grove]

It will be the size of the kunar map. already a single city

[wide nymph]

KIOK I beg of you after this maps releases release a mod pack reskinning the BDU into tri-color desert

[eternal quartz]

Just cause you asked…

Never

[desert forge]

Idk

[karmic jasper]

I believe it's being done ready

[unborn spruce]

it was already done by vergy with his 5th SFG pack, it just needs to be added back to the arsenal box.

[charred dagger]

ye its called expanded us faction

[peak pine]

Zimnitrita worked fine on Xbox on my side. At least I remember testing it a while back and used to run fine

[swift ridge]

Is the map done and if so what’s it called

[eternal quartz]

“Kiok’s Midwest of USA”

[swift ridge]

Is it out cuz I can’t see it

[karmic jasper]

Good things take time

[karmic jasper]

Fallujah

[swift ridge]

Yee ik i just didn’t see it I thought it was but it’s not 😂

[minor basin]

Still wip

[brazen storm]

you think it’ll run good on the Xbox or really just for PC?

[unborn spruce]

well considering he’s redoing it to be smaller will definitely help xbox performance but seeing as it’s gonna be a large city performance on xbox and pc will probably suffer

[solemn wave]

It could be a sideshow but I will still play it for cqb combat

[old patio]

@fading grove If you do decide to do another map you could do Stratis, it is small enough and it’s one of the base Arma 3 maps. Or even an African map

[urban tangle]

Niger or Mali could be great terrains

[old patio]

Open Sahara with a few towns in between with a dense jungle area in a corner

Maybe a military base or two capable with handling helicopters or possibly a smaller airfield, now that would be dope

[minor basin]

Battle of Mogadishu? Would be great for early 90s Milsims. Haha

[cunning meteor]

Mogadishu would be dope, especially since this year marks 30 years since then

[minor basin]

It's been 30 years? Jeeeeesus I'm old.

[cunning meteor]

Yeah apparently this year marks 30, October tho I believe so not quite yet. Im young tho so it probably isn’t as significant for me as it is for you

[late stirrup]

When is this map coming out?

[solemn wave]

2025

[late stirrup]

Bet wait is this the real Alabama

[brazen storm]

Alabama?

[wild rock]

Tf

[swift ridge]

He prob wanted to say obama but he flopped it and felt embarrassed idk

[old patio]

He could make Livonia

It’s small enough and like Livonia is dope as

[late stirrup]

See that's who I meant 😜😝 (might delete later)

[whole oasis]

Let him cook

[swift ridge]

😂