bacon (mod status in pins)

[spice elk]

at least the one from the optic

[alpine drum]

Tattoos are in the pack thats lowkey fire

[spice elk]

I like purple so I will add something to the mod in this color just for myself

[dusk glen]

Is that purple? Scope looks like Rose Gold

[spice elk]

I guess it goes between purple and rose gold depending on lighting conditions, to be fair it's not as close to purple as I thought it was

[alpine drum]

My eo tech for airsoft is that color

Its definitely a rose type gold

[spice elk]

cool I guess I like rose gold then

[alpine drum]

Yea its a dope color aslong as your gun isn’t completely black

[formal swallow]

Ngl the purplish/rose gold optic looks great on a URGI

[alpine drum]

Soul purpose im building my gas blowback 416 like that lmao😂 but absolutely agree

[proper bane]

The C clamp is a popular method of shooting nowadays 🙂 I know I used to in the Marines!

Question bacon ? Do you intend to do a vortex scope or maybe a mod like in six days in fallujah where you can loook over your scope?

[vernal summit]

GBB Airsoft enjoyer 🫂

[alpine drum]

I get shit for it but yes indeed

[vernal summit]

GBB> AEG

[pale coral]

Imagine having to maintain your rif every third shot

Couldn't be aeg

[alpine drum]

Some guys like me like the realism of it

[pale coral]

Fair enough

GBBRs are the pcs of Airsoft and aegs are the consoles

[vernal summit]

atleast if it breaks I can fix it without risking electrocuting myself

[pale coral]

With 11.4 volts? That would hurt less then being hit lmao and that already doesn't hurt

[spice elk]

what is current

[vernal summit]

depends what you mean by current; the present or power current or even ocean current

[spice elk]

electrical current

[pale coral]

How many volts there are I believe

No it's amps

Electric current refers to the flow of electricity in an electronic circuit, and to the amount of electricity flowing through a circuit

[spice elk]

right so, provided there is enough current, even 12v can kill you

[proper bane]

not me, im static shock >:)

[crude nacelle]

The es this GBBR Ak-74m you can buy for like 100 euro, which off the box is total shit, but after modding it it's awesome

Total with mags is around 300, and it mimics WE internals. Only problem is that the front gas block is that of the AK-47 and not 74

[pale coral]

So the limit is 11.9?

[spice elk]

I feel like if I say yes as a joke someone might hold me legally accountable for an accident involving <12v

[spice elk]

ok so I am a genius and it is in fact possible to reduce sway when using a foregrip, the second weapon is using the AFG but I think the reduction is a bit too much, what do y'all think?

it's like 30% reduction, is that too much?

[raw canopy]

I'd go like maybe 15 if you wanna try that

[spice elk]

yeah I don't want it to become a cheat gun, you know? but I do want carrying the UGL to have more sway, for example

with the UGL it's heavier, it should make you more tired

and then the default variant of the rifle could come with the AFG attached

so the UGL can make sway 15% bigger and the AFG can make sway 15% smaller

[raw canopy]

Ya for sure, also are you still looking for vfg ideas cause if so I got some good ones that i can send you pics for and you could probaly make them for the urgi since their mlock grips

[severe olive]

You sir are amazing.

[spice elk]

I will only be doing the stubby (for now anyway)

[raw canopy]

Okay I was gonna suggest the bcm Gunfighter grips

[spice elk]

the urgi will also get the stubby, just like it has the AFG now

[raw canopy]

Oooooo

[spice elk]

but it will not be getting a UGL because it's too much work to animate it being offset forward (compared to the block 2)

[nimble sluice]

That looks about right imo

[spice elk]

hmmz this also means I can make slotting attachments impact sway/recoil, so for example add 3x tac light and a big scope and you get more sway, but maybe not for now

alternatively could compute this dynamically from weight of the slotted item

[nimble sluice]

Really only attachments on the front of the gun should increase sway, and even there only slightly since most players intended on larping as stacked SOF/SF

[spice elk]

would putting on 832423 tac lights reduce recoil?

what if I add a weapon attachment that's just a kettlebell on a piece of rope

[slender totem]

Your smarter then the actual military companies who make these attachments

Why didn’t they think of that

[nimble sluice]

Technically, yes. More weight will keep the gun down and reduce the recoil impact

[nimble sluice]

Ahem
https://images.app.goo.gl/hfAK9wi4pJUVSxXk8

[proper bane]

doesnt seem bad to me

[formal swallow]

I’m excited to see what the purple thing is that bacon was talking about yesterday. Wonder if it’s gonna be a new optic or a texture on an existing item👀

[slender totem]

We need this 😂

[tawny flame]

Wait so Bacon based off of what I’m seeing you got both the M4A1 block 2 and the URGI but does that mean you have the model of the MK18 too?

[spice elk]

don't think so, all my guns are out on the workshop

[tawny flame]

Ok just asking

[hushed aspen]

Back onto the grips and stuff, any possibility for a hand stop? I have a picture if needed

I love using a hand stop irl, very comfortable and convenient since it’s not huge and sticking out

[spice elk]

#1110586149740748890 message

[hushed aspen]

Womp womp

[spice elk]

in general, if I haven't announced that I'm working on X, the answer is no

[glacial cove]

Does the sway reduction stay or go away well walking?

[spice elk]

it reduces all sway

[formal swallow]

Does it effect recoil as well or just sway?

[spice elk]

recoil as well but much less noticeable

it may not make it to release though because the weapon sway and recoil modifiers are cursed in the game, buggy

[formal swallow]

Dang

[spice elk]

it's like sometimes the gun flips upside down, I don't understand how those aim modifiers are applied yet

[formal swallow]

Ngl that would be funny to see in the middle of a gun fight

[formal swallow]

Unsure if this is already a known bug. But the 40mm sight on the M4 no longer moves when ranging

[stray sparrow]

That rifle and kit is in the PLA pack ?

[slender totem]

Noticed this too

[spice elk]

Oh I see I guess it means it needs to go back to ugl being a separate weapon variant

There's a bug in this game for like more than a year where the underbarrel grenade launcher zeroing animations don't work when the item is attached by a player while the rifle is in their hands, only when then weapon is equipped with the UGL already attached, so like if you swap weapon to something else and back it should work

[spice elk]

I think if you attach with loadout editor it will work because you have to equip the weapon after exiting, so I might put the UGL variants in the arsenal box but keep it editable in the editor

[spice elk]

sorry to disappoint but it's just alternative skins/colors for some of the gun parts, the green one probably won't make it

I also think the default black is a bit too bright/dirty and I'll make it a little more shiny, like 5-10%

[nimble sluice]

The barrel and especially the muzzle should be black reeee

The desert spray painted one is fine, but the other "default" ones should be entirely black with the muzzle having a slight blue hue due to the carbon, if you really want to go that deep

[spice elk]

how do you know that this is the final look of the item?

[nimble sluice]

Uhhhhhhh

[spice elk]

you're right, but that's a wip screenshot

[nimble sluice]

Sorry!?

[spice elk]

work in progress

[wraith harness]

is it just lods or normals are a bit fucked?

[spice elk]

neither

[formal swallow]

Adding onto this, the animation for reloading plays but the 40mm launcher doesn’t move in any way.

[spice elk]

can you check if it works fine after re-equipping the weapon?

[formal swallow]

So take it off and put it back on or grab a new one?

[spice elk]

option 1

[formal swallow]

Yeah it works fine now

[spice elk]

ok so I guess I will make the GL slottable only in my loadout editor (will add gl version to arsenal box) to work around this issue that's been in the game for over a year

[glacial cove]

You so smart

[spice elk]

I'm unhappy with how buggy/odd this game is at times. It's like, they give you a dynamic attachment system, with an option to change animations when it's attached, except when you attach it yourself in-game the animation changes are ignored. They give you a modular system to add different weapon recoil/sway/aim modifiers and you can programmatically increase sway but you can't (really) decrease it. Want to change the skin of a weapon by swapping one part of a texture? You can't, you need to add 3-4 textures, unnecessarily inflating the file size of the mod (ie. cannot JUST change the metallic map of a material, you need to add AO and normals as well).

[amber ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/math-calculating-formulas-confused-little-girl-gif-19737617

[empty trellis]

Is the arsenal mod available? And if so, what is its name?

[tawny flame]

Bacon Editor

[craggy bluff]

It’s in test mods

[nimble sluice]

It'll be all fixed with ArmA 4 🗿

[spice elk]

yeah hopefully

[spice elk]

are woodland or olive themed camos not popular? for the m4

is this FDE? looks a lil sprayed on lol, like car paint

[nimble sluice]

Since most modern theaters were in the middle east, not yet, brown/khaki also works in woodland areas but green not so much in the desert. In the Bundeswehr woodland rifle sprays are somewhat common, but also not as common as desert themed ones.

[spice elk]

that makes sense, I guess the styles are in response to environments they are used in

[nimble sluice]

Looks like one of the 69 shades of FDE, like PuFu said, the coating gives it that hue, I'd assume that's either cerakoted or anodized

[sacred lagoon]

Looks anodized in tan. Also known as "tanodized". The HK416D and MCX Spear LT sport this finish.

[wraith harness]

usually camo on weapon is just a few layers of sprayed paint with different things used as mask. Such as camo nets, fishing nets, random leafs that were laying around, etc. Its never perfect pattern (if we're speaking about real battle used weapons and not facebook zombie hunter toys)

[spice elk]

I want to try doing some cheap color skins by using MatPBR2Layers, otherwise I have to add the full BCR for every skin which inflates the mod size greatly

[nimble sluice]

Yea I was getting huge "416 at home vibes" lol

[wraith harness]

perhaps you can use RGBA mask for this?

should be way cheaper especially bcz mask can be twice smaller then original texture size

and blury edges can be distorted by existing grunges from vanilla game

[nimble sluice]

I agree?!

[spice elk]

well the mask is grayscale but yes

[wraith harness]

well MASK is RGBA and submasks are grayscale

check vanilla mi-8 as example of RGBA mask

[spice elk]

MatPBR2Layers accepts grayscale masks, is that what you are talking about? Or you mean PBRMulti? I said I want to use MatPBR2Layers

actually with RGB it does have a green channel for detail normal but I'm probably not using it

[wraith harness]

oh yea i meant masks for PBR multi, sorry

[gaunt fog]

Addon 'BaconLoadoutEditor' dependency '5AB890B71D748750' can't be added
21:31:38.766 ENGINE (E): Cannot initialize game project settings!
21:31:38.766 ENGINE (E): Cannot create game!
@spice elk after i updated my server to the lastest update i get this error and now it wont start

ive also went back to 1.0.8 and it works so 1.0.9 is crsahing my game

[spice elk]

Is your server not automatically downloading dependencies? I'll double check for typos.

I guess I'll add dependencies of dependencies, or something

so it seems dependencies are not resolved recursively, I've updated the mod with dependencies of dependencies, now it seems to work, new bug?

[gaunt fog]

it have dependencies?

[spice elk]

I've added dependency on my m4 today as it is the demo weapon for the mod

[broken zodiac]

I do believe when US Marines take part in JRTC they do paint there rifles. At least some units do from what a guy I knew whom was a marine said.

[spice elk]

thank you!

[gaunt fog]

ill test it now

[broken zodiac]

I don’t think conventional army paint there rifles but I do know some army rangers do. I can get pictures of painted Block 2’s and Block 2 URGI’s which the rangers used/use?

[spice elk]

for now I have enough reference images but I will let you know if I need more

[gaunt fog]

it works again thank you

[spice elk]

yay!!

[mighty mantle]

That is burnt bronze, rattle can krylon paint jobs that blend in with your environment are more popular fwiw

[cedar prism]

bacon

[broken zodiac]

bacon, you thought about adding a 11.5inch Barrel to the URGI and block2?

[sharp dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/zoro-miles-morales-miles-shocked-surprise-gif-13646668700392851337

Here come the M4 lovers

[alpine drum]

More of a 416 guy myself (i know its the same platform just hk had to re name it cause of colt copyright)

[broken zodiac]

No, I’m asking if he thought.. as it would be cool yes, but also pose the challenge/difference in the animation/grips and it’s just another thing for his M4 which is something he seems to want. Which bacon likes doing challenging stuff plus it’s another thing to work with his Load Out Editor which is why he expanded on his M4 in the first place I do believe

[sharp dagger]

Your good, I was just making a joke cause everyone loves M4s

[plucky copper]

I mean. They are versatile platforms.

[sharp dagger]

5 million variants of the same weapon

[sacred lagoon]

Not really. The 416 is piston operated and the ar15/M4 is direct impingement. There's very little they share in common aside from slight aesthetics similarities. Different gas system, different bolt carrier group, different receivers, the original 416 couldn't even accept p mags due to the different geometries in the magwell

[alpine drum]

Oh i know that (wouldn’t have up until about a week ago when i was doing research) but most people say its literally a m4 when thats not the case

[proper bane]

most units let you paint your rifles bro, mine did

[broken zodiac]

Like I said “at least some do”, I wasn’t 100% if it was all or most but I knew it’s common.
Good to know know that most do in fact. Thx

[velvet agate]

@spice elk got a question, you used to have like an explosive zombie mod during October, will we ever see such mods come back? I’d love to use them for some late night OP’s in my group

[spice elk]

eventually, hopefully, maybe

[glacial cove]

To this day I pray that this wizardry comes back in some form or another. Curious, when you made this, were you able to turn the camera downwards separate from the actual drone itself?

[pale coral]

Bro is looking at the first version of it

[glacial cove]

You’re saying there were more iterations after this…..

[orchid frost]

What mod?!?

[slender totem]

Don’t think it’s a mod anymore

[formal swallow]

Will the ability to take the 40mm launcher off the weapon come back eventually? Having the ability to throw it in a backpack when not using it was kinda fire🔥

[spice elk]

it will be back when they fix the animations in the game

[crude nacelle]

HOLY SHIT SINCE WHEN DOES THIS EXIST

[spice elk]

it doesnt, one of my 34583 dead projects

[crude nacelle]

if it ever gets released i WILL attach a grenade to it and kill people in ukraine

i didnt even edge to that video i straight up gooned

[fleet grail]

Do you think before you speak

[waxen meteor]

Might wanna delete that

[nimble sluice]

Wtf did I read there

[livid ice]

13 year olds with internet access

[strong pasture]

Now now, he’s a geopolitics and weapons enthusiast as per his profile.

[fleet grail]

Ok so 12 year old

[loud sequoia]

don’t

[distant birch]

I hope someone adds that. I need to hold some balls (no homo) while shooting dudes.

[jovial laurel]

Bit odd fella

[distant birch]

He's joking

[jovial laurel]

Don't really matter tbf mate especially when a nation is been bombed and attacked for wanting to join NATO.

[crude nacelle]

why did y'all get so pressed LMAO, literally was joking around

[pale coral]

Guarantee if it was opposite of killing invaders or orcs it would be alright 👀

[nimble sluice]

I thought the same

[nimble sluice]

Hell yeah

[strong pasture]

You'd think common sense and basic social awareness would be a good prerequisites for those 😆

[spice elk]

might move loadout editor from test to main

[nimble sluice]

It's ready, we're ready and I think you're ready

[spice elk]

https://reforger.armaplatform.com/workshop/6088A3044B7ECBFD-KeepGunWhenUncon

[nimble sluice]

YAAAAYYY

[spice elk]

idk if it works tho

[crude nacelle]

literally didn't even specify who I would kill 😭

[west pollen]

It works, its already in the workshop since 2 weeks

https://reforger.armaplatform.com/workshop/60612C225328522E-Maeh-NoWeapDropUnCon

[spice elk]

Yes I am aware, I was not happy with the implementation in that mod so I created my own

[west pollen]

Ah okay no problem

[nimble sluice]

That description gave me brain damage

[silent plaza]

sooner or later will probably come back in RHS

[nimble sluice]

You-

[left ore]

bro you cannot be serious

[vernal summit]

Please no

[sullen pilot]

This has to come standard on all the ai units rifles.

[zenith cloud]

FUCK YEAH

[proper bane]

it does i use it in my unit

[left ore]

I hope to also see a Romanian dong for the ak74's

[proper bane]

this r ight here though ius the best thing i seeno nthe platform

[spice elk]

Great. I got mad at losing my gun today.

[proper bane]

LOL facts :P,

[formal swallow]

Is there a special trick needed to adjust the background from light-dark on the fancy arsenal system? I’m able to change the scene lighting but not the other option

[spice elk]

Maybe on Xbox the lighting difference is smaller to a point you don't see it? Does the selection update?

[wise dew]

Love the arsenal editor makes it easy for the new guys I play with to build their setup

[spice elk]

Ah ok the ground and background are missing

If you have access to graphics settings does this happen on both low and high settings?

[formal swallow]

I’ll test that rn, uno secundo

Happens for both low and high

[spice elk]

Ok I wonder if I can reproduce this on PC

Neither ground or background are visible for you so the change does nothing

[proper bane]

i actually never had that happen to me

[proper bane]

LOL i always thought that it was supposed to be a black background ahaha

[proper bane]

Bacon any intentions in bringing this gold mine back? lol its so cool

[ancient hill]

Read below it @proper bane

[proper bane]

omllll thats so coool

[formal swallow]

The optics in TFM don’t show up in the loadout editor

[finite shadow]

Probably not set up for his mod and how the sorting system in his mod pulls in from other components. Just a guess - I haven't looked into any of it for sure though

[spice elk]

I already reported this to you. Consider using the same labels in arsenal as vanilla uses for attachments.

[finite shadow]

Hence my answer to him, I've not opened my TFM stuff back up recently to fix it, I'll have to though, getting a few DM's a week about fixing things now that new functionality is coming out.

I do have to say I am looking forward to seeing how powerful your gun editor is for my future project weapons 🙂

[spice elk]

"not set up for his mod" reads like there are special mod-specific steps you need to take for it to work which is false

[spice elk]

It usually means they are not labeled weapon attachments in the arsenal. Only things with weapon attachment type are shown there.

[spice elk]

Worst thing about my m4 now is the fire mode selector is inverted. Will fix this week.

[civic delta]

I wasn't super happy with it either. But it did the job for the time being. Thanks to your competition, I took another look into properly modding a class and overriding functions. For some reason, the workshop tools refused to recognize my modded class as I originally created the mod, so I had to override the entire class.
Today though, I was successful, although I don't actually understand the difference...

Next time maybe, just point out what you don't like 😉 In the end, our mods arn't that different in code. Need to admit, that it is hard to get in contact with someone, who's name does not match because Bohemia does not allow a name change on discord 😞

[spice elk]

I'd rather not get in touch with someone just to tell them I disagree with them. I assume people have reasons to do things the way they do and, especially for something as trivial in function as this, I'd rather save time and just do my own thing

[civic delta]

what a pity, could have been a opportunity to learn from each other. All right then

[spice elk]

it's great that you would see it as a learning opportunity, but I've had enough people get upset, defensive and argumentative in the past to discourage me from doing it

[civic delta]

that I understand just too well 🙂

[lone dune]

If you can get bacon to make his own implementation of your mod that is an ideal situation; save yourself many hours of maintenance & support.

[spice elk]

even on lowest settings on PC this does not occur so I'm afraid I have no way to test it

[formal swallow]

Rip

[spice elk]

does ground under the character not appear regardless of camera angle?

basically there is a simple ground plane under the character, or supposed to be anyway

[formal swallow]

I’ve never seen the ground

[dusk glen]

Can confirm, never seen the ground

[spice elk]

Series x? Both graphics presets?

[spice elk]

it's definitely in the world because the option to change background color is there, and it only displays the option if the background is in the scene

[spice elk]

I have published an update with a small test world scenario. Could you load the bundled Scenario on an Xbox and show me a screenshot to compare with the one I'm posting here on PC? Whenever you have time. Also, please make sure only the loadout editor and its dependencies are enabled.

[formal swallow]

Sure

[real igloo]

Screenshot from the test world and my modlist, Xbox Series S if that matters whatsoever

[finite shadow]

They should have been set up that way, not sure what is going on there but I will take a look at my mods when I can and update for folks to be able to use it.

[sturdy sedge]

they changes scope stuff...

[spice elk]

I don't get it

[sturdy sedge]

they changed stuff in the update. and if you see the black circle around is a lot bigger now

[spice elk]

ah yea the depth of field stuff

[sturdy sedge]

yea

[spice elk]

nice we can finally have proper holo sight visibility

[sturdy sedge]

jup

[spice elk]

no idea how it works tho

[sturdy sedge]

you holo is not broken atleast atm xD

[spice elk]

I dont understand how this dof slider works

[sturdy sedge]

ill have a look aswel i was working on a scope to learn for myself aswel

[spice elk]

this is how it's supposed to look like

[sturdy sedge]

would be nice to have

[spice elk]

when two eyes are used for aiming your rifle you're not going to be blocked by the housing of the holo sight like you are in this game

[sturdy sedge]

correct the reason snipers aim with 2 eyes aswel

seems like for me it only happends on my scope if i move to far left or right it starts to zoom out mid movement strange stuff

[spice elk]

idk I dont see any depth of field on the holo, but the specter is super blurry

[sturdy sedge]

yea i changed it on myu scope and it changes zero nada XDD on max or on -1 nothing

good update 😉

[spice elk]

it blurs out the whole optic when I change between third and first person

[tough canyon]

honestly i think the elcan looks better than it did

it seems like it zooms more and higher quality

[nimble sluice]

I mean the eye relief is completely messed up so definitely not better

[tawny flame]

Opinion detected! Opinion is valid

[tough canyon]

it's a little fucked up, but that can be fixed. the sight picture looks better tho

[spice elk]

I'll fix it later, the ocular should be a bit wider

[spice elk]

please make sure you run latest versions of mods before you make a bug report

[sacred lagoon]

My mistake.

[blazing sentinel]

Was the garbage system mod removed?

[spice elk]

Yes. It would do nothing otherwise.

[blazing sentinel]

Copy that

[spice elk]

did you have time to do it yet?

[formal swallow]

Eek, I forgot. I shall do it now….just gotta pause NCIS

[formal swallow]

Got the same results as palmar. No ground and can’t change the background color😔

[spice elk]

ok but could you do exactly what I asked? I did not get any screenshots from the test world

[formal swallow]

They are uploading to the Xbox network, i’ll send em once they finish

[spice elk]

I just need one like I said in my message

[spice elk]

Thank you but this is not what I asked for

[formal swallow]

Oh I’m sorry, I seem to have gotten a bit confused and just went off of palmar’s photo

[spice elk]

I explained what I need here #1110586149740748890 message

[formal swallow]

Yeah I just re-read it

[spice elk]

wow stuff is just gone, if you walk closer to the crates none of the other things appear?

[formal swallow]

Just the boxes and 2 guns.

[spice elk]

roger, please try again with the update I just pushed, when you have time

[formal swallow]

OH, I see things!

Yippee, there is now a ground texture thingy and changing the background color works!

[spice elk]

can you screenshot how the thing looks like? in the editor

[formal swallow]

Yes

[spice elk]

lesson learned I guess, the default flat planes, cubes, spheres 3d models dont exist on xbox

I added my own plane and sphere models to the mod and it works, thank you for helping me figure this out

[formal swallow]

Anytime! And sorry for being extra slow, currently grasping for some neurons rn😭

[spice elk]

my neurons die every time there's a bug on xbox, still not as bad as the ris rangefinder crashing on xbox because of the font I used for its display

[formal swallow]

Oh lawd the great rangefinder bug; crashed many times due to that😂

[nimble sluice]

That was such a fun day of testing and crashing when those released

[spice elk]

not for me it wasnt

[ancient hill]

Bruh I had shit crash cause a word was to long on a name took me hours to figure it out

[nimble sluice]

I can imagine lol

[nimble sluice]

E-sports ready

[barren fable]

[analog fox]

keep up man!

[hearty gorge]

Just want to say I love your loadout configurator. Tested on both pc and console. Makes a world of difference for console players!

[jovial laurel]

100% makes life so much easier with doing your gun configurations.

[hearty gorge]

Do you know why your M4 mod does not work anymore with vanilla Combat Ops? It was the only weapon mod I always use and just run it next to the combat ops mission. Before the support update the M4 would just be in the arsenal crate, but I cannot get it to work anymore.

[spice elk]

It should still be in the arsenal crate, unless combat ops has some new crate that does not have all the US arsenal items?

[wanton blade]

Yes, combat ops has a restricted arsenal crate.

[spice elk]

Thanks

[empty swallow]

We tell our guys to Leave Faction as soon as they join the Combat Op server. This way, when you rejoin the US team, your saved loadout option appears like normal.
Likewise, our members just #login to drop the normal Arsenal boxes as GMs. It's just a way to work around CombatOp foolery. 🤷‍♂️ To each their own on how others deal with it.

[velvet agate]

@spice elk I might've encountered a bug with your Arsenal mod

This happens afterwards when fully using your arsenal to put gear on, put stuff in the inventory of said items. I don’t if it’s a me issue orrr what

Even with betterinventory-rightside doesn't fix it, reason why i tried is cause my thought process is "hey this expands the inventory furthur, maybe this'll fix it"

[spice elk]

Whats the bug

[nimble sluice]

I'd assume the shirt name being displayed fully pushing the carrier and pants out of the UI

[spice elk]

Yeah I don't see how is my editor relevant here

[subtle spade]

I have noticed that some items’ inventory dont show up in editor. I dont know if thats mods conflicting or something but its always the usmc rifleman pouch from RHS

[spice elk]

Same with supply kits not showing up in inventory slots, no idea why that is yet

[formal swallow]

You referring to how the Crye G3 pants and JPC JTAC storage compartment are pushed to the right? If so, that’s due to the darkgru operator clothing you have on…the name is too long and pushes the other boxes to the right.

[spice elk]

what if

[severe olive]

Bacon

If you do this I will forever love you.

[spice elk]

what do you mean if

[dusk glen]

What do YOU mean if

[spice elk]

what do you mean what do I mean if?

[dusk glen]

What do you mean what do I mean what do you mean If

[ancient hill]

https://tenor.com/view/shhh-quiet-dont-talk-gif-14255118

[nimble sluice]

Console compatible or client side save?

[spice elk]

you can't save files on console, so it saves on server

[severe olive]

Would this cause any performance issues or nah?

[spice elk]

such as?

[severe olive]

30+ ppl all with multiple saved load outs, would it use up high memory on the server?

[nimble sluice]

Siiick

[spice elk]

if your server runs out of memory when 30 players save loadouts then saving loadouts may not be for you

[severe olive]

I'll take that as a no then lol

[spice elk]

we'll find out but I will add some optimization such as unloading loadouts from memory when player exits the editor or leaves server

[pale coral]

The zu23 ural keeps jittering is this a vanilla issue as I don't really notice it on normal vehicles

[spice elk]

I don't know what jittering means

[proper bane]

🤭imagine if you make it so you can appoint arsenals to random objects that would be dope asf

[proper bane]

OML

[spice elk]

happening

[severe olive]

Bacon absolutely cooking with every update slowing becoming better then the actual game devs

[proper bane]

They might as well give you company stocks lol and job 🤭🤭🤭

[spice elk]

if someone wants to show appreciation they can donate with my donation profile link

[pale coral]

Moving spasticly. I'll get a video now

[spice elk]

that would help thanks

loadout saving update is out I would welcome some crash reports

[proper bane]

No problem

[spice elk]

did it explode

[severe olive]

Mine hasn't exploded yet

[spice elk]

so you saying it works?

[empty trellis]

So, what is Bacun up to recently?

[spice elk]

nothing

[empty trellis]

The glorious nothing, one can envy Bacun for sure

[spice elk]

oh my god it works, weird but also dope

[severe olive]

Yeah it does, Ill tell you how it runs with like 15 ppl using it in a few hours

[analog fox]

Bacons Loadout Editor.... Mod of Year.

This a "Form Follows Function" at it's best. With the addition of "Saving". Incredible.

[spice elk]

the year just started but we're done folks

[severe olive]

How much money u betting that A4 still gonna have a shit system and we still gonna need a bacon load out editor😭

[spice elk]

I will bet 2 dollar

[proper bane]

so far so good bro

i used all the loadout slots and loaded into them and loaded out of them and no issues

[strong pasture]

Is my arma borked or did you include your m4s in the loadout mod?

[spice elk]

I included it. It's the demo weapon for customization.

[strong pasture]

Ah should've guessed that. Was afraid my arma was loading up random mods or something

[spice elk]

now that this is out of the way I can maybe start to put some time into redoing the m4

[analog fox]

@spice elk With the ability to save in BLE, do I need GM persistant mod?

[spice elk]

it is independent, however when you LOAD a loadout in the loadout editor, it will also try to make it your respawn saved loadout

that functionality is not very well tested though, but this is not strictly related to gm persistent loadouts since the loadouts are managed separately

without gm persistent loadouts though you will need to spawn in and load a loadout from the arsenal box

[analog fox]

ill give a through workout...

[foggy lantern]

Really nice work, but can the saved loadout can be saved on the computer so you can use everywhere ?

[spice elk]

Saved on server

[analog fox]

Its possible save a loadout in Xbox?

I using bacon editor

[formal swallow]

Yes

[analog fox]

Cool

Needs of gm persistent loadouts mod?

@formal swallow

[formal swallow]

No clue

[analog fox]

I click on save loadout but the mod fail

[nimble sluice]

You probably need to be on a dedicated server and it won't work on "singleplayer"

[spice elk]

No. Mods cant save files on xbox. Server only

[analog fox]

Why?

The Bohemia will add this feature in the New update?

[spice elk]

I don't know. I only know that it's not possible yet.

[nimble sluice]

Do you think you could implement a way to keep Loadout saving type at no item restrictions instead of player faction items only to server admin tools or a different script?

[spice elk]

No plans. Arsenal loadouts are controlled by arsenals. This is not an arsenal mod.

[nimble sluice]

It was more a general question, not necessarily related to BLE

[spice elk]

Oh yeah it'd be dope if things you set in GM saved persistently.

[nimble sluice]

Indeed, a setting in the bacon server dashboard or server tools would be loved

[spice elk]

they dont persist when you enable load session save?

[nimble sluice]

I'll try it again with that on, didn't see anything be changed the last time I had it on

[plucky copper]

Any chance of making a standalone GL?
an m203 or a m320 and have the m320 as an attachment too?
and make it go in the sidearm slot, if that's possible?

[sleek patio]

He doesn't take requests, but I'm sure you could find a decent way to learn modding ^^

[plucky copper]

I'm not demanding anything. Just throwing ideas out there. Not expecting anything anytime soon if he did make it.
And I would mod if I had a PC to do it on. Maybe someday.
But for now it doesn't hurt anything to put ideas out there in case it peaks a modders interests. As long as I'm not spamming stuff demanding it

[loud sequoia]

posting random ideas is considered spam, especially when the author / op explicitly said he doesn’t take requests. please refrain yourself from doing it on this discord server

[sacred lagoon]

There's already a stand alone m320 on the workshop from SRGShadow

[plucky copper]

Does it hurt having options/variety?
no. And that's an m320. Was also wondering about a "shorty" 40mm m203.
I've asked shadow before and it's on his list to update and fix. But doesn't hurt to see if another modders interested in making it

[sacred lagoon]

Doesn't hurt but the guys who make these mods have thousands of requests from people to make something for them and I'm sure it gets old.

Also everything they make has someone who thinks it should be different and feels the need to tell them.

[plucky copper]

Some people actually spam requests and expect modders fo make everything. But most just want to put ideas out there for the modders they like and hope they maybe like the idea and make it.
and some complain about every detail of a mod but most just give actually feedback in hopes the mod gets better.
modders shouldn't just bash ideas as long as this doesn't actually turn into spam. Same way players shouldnt spam requests. Just simply put the idea out there and move on.
Modders, and others, getting mad at simple ideas being tossed out is just as bad as players spaming requests. Both aren't good for the overall modding and player community

Different modders making the same or similar mod only helps the community by adding options for those that think a mod should be one way while others another

[loud sequoia]

there is no place for ideas, suggestions or requests on this discord server for the reason mentioned before - it is considered spam. want something done, feel free to do it yourself (the tools are free on PC) be your own idea guy and provide variations and these options you talk about for users. Now please cut the debate, because your own opinion is not really relevant, and it also has nothing to do with this particular topic. Thanks

[sturdy sedge]

hey bacon , ist it btw on purpose the spectre will stay like this or do you have plans to add it back as it used to be with full fov without the black bars

[spice elk]

will fix it at some point

[sturdy sedge]

thanks was just making sure it wasnt only on my side still 🙂

[strong pasture]

Bacon, you mentioned the slot system was more or less automated (if modders add slots the system will automatically pick up on it). Is something different about the RHS G3 uniforms that prohibits the system from adding it to the list of options? Because the helmet, vest and webbing slots all work straight out of the box

[spice elk]

no idea maybe just doesnt match jacket or pants filters

unless you mean slots in those items then something must not be matching filters, slots and items that go into slots must be of the same or otherwise applicable class

[strong pasture]

Slot as in 'decal option' (so stuff like flags and patches). Their helmets are incredibly complex with options and combinations, but that all works splendidly

[spice elk]

I don't know how rhs works so I can't give you a precise answer

[strong pasture]

It's not a big deal, but the issue is at the RHS side I take it then?

[spice elk]

no idea, like I said I don't know how it works

[cedar prism]

Bacon HK416D next????🤔🤔

[raw canopy]

That would be awesome or bacon eotech with g33

[cedar prism]

Frrrrr

[raw canopy]

Or if bacon added a ngal to the urgi and block II pack

[spice elk]

too bad the upper receiver of the hk is not plug and play with m4

[dusk glen]

Its all HKs, M4s and ARs nowadays. What we need are cursed and unique guns

[empty swallow]

This mod is the best for Combat Op servers. The saved loadouts are not an option unless you GM yourselves. A really cool thing I can do now because of the multiple saves is replicate the files to all the other servers so it follows the players. Ty for this.

[spice elk]

if you have physical access to the hardware you can merge the loadout saving directories, save on one load on another seamlessly

if all servers are on the same machine then that's super easy just make the folder a volume for all the docker containers running the servers

[empty swallow]

🤔 You gave me an idea... they're windows guest servers on a VMware ESXi host... but I can do a symbolic link similar to what you can do in RHEL. I might try thar rather than running a task that xcopy and newly created or modified...

[spice elk]

that complicates things a little but should be doable

[crimson jetty]

Can you make a version of your loadout mod without the modern dependencies?

[vernal summit]

Wdum?

[spice elk]

I can but I'm not going to. The m4 is there to demonstrate the weapon editing functionality.

[crimson jetty]

I mean when it actually releases out of testing.

[spice elk]

If we are ever in a situation in the future where guns are customizable then yes, otherwise it will probably stay.

[crimson jetty]

Oh I see what you mean by customizability, which silencers, and sights are gonna be released soon I believe.

[spice elk]

The m4 has customizable receivers, handguards, grips and stocks

this is what I mean by customizable

[proper bane]

😭 bacon no SBR huh?? Im crying 😂 teasing

[spice elk]

is that the one that has triangle holes on it

[proper bane]

No it’s just a short barrel of BLKII M4’s

Basically a modern version of it would be a mk18

I see the angle you’re going though you want a gun that’s fully customizable and I’m here for it 😫😫😫

[spice elk]

someday

[tawny flame]

One word

Yes

[silent plaza]

Hey I'm just about to inject my AFG, how did you orient the fbx?

[spice elk]

I didn't do anything special for it mesh-wise

for attachments that only go to my gun I keep everything in default orientation, no need to bother getting fancy

[silent plaza]

Could I ask you to screenshot it in blender with the grid, origin and the axis gizmo visible?

[spice elk]

its exactly like you see neither the slot or the joint is upside down

[silent plaza]

I don't know know what default is. I imagined that bottom mounted things would be inversed

[spice elk]

I would do that for attachments that can be shared with other people's guns but with the foregrip it doesn't make sense because it would break other people's animations

other guns in the game likely have a bit different poses

so in this case I think my laziness is justified

oh yea other people might have different position of bottom attachment also, so I'm not making the afg or the UGL usable on other weapons, not until BI gives me a way to plop the left hand where the foregrip is at least with IK

[silent plaza]

yeah maybe foregrips gotta come preattached for now

[spice elk]

I have them swappable but only attach to my gun

the UGL is only swappable in my editor because if you do it through inventory the animations dont work until you re-equip the weapon

[silent plaza]

i glued my to the rifle for now, need to think how we will do it

[hushed aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-and-take-my-money-futurama-fry-take-my-money-money-gif-15195954

[proper bane]

its beautifulll

[proper bane]

that mk18 is gorgeous

[silent plaza]

It's a normal m4a1 with ergo extension. Mk18 will come and it has a different DD rail and shorter barrel

[dusk glen]

Not my cup of tea. I dont like the front sight popping out between the extension and base guard.

Might as well just have an extended base barrel atp but I respect other people’s tastes

[proper bane]

🙂 ya'll got me like little ceasars hot n ready with the gold ya'll dropping

[empty swallow]

How do you use the 40mm if you have a sight attached? I can't figure out the how to get any side iron view or something.

[hushed aspen]

Fsp are gas

[spice elk]

It has its own sight on the side. When you switch to the UGL it should have its own sight active when you go ADS.

[proper bane]

You know how like there’s functions to place turrents and other stuff anywhere , is it possible to utilize that to place attachments anywhere in a rifle you insect it in your editor or in person

[spice elk]

What

[zenith cloud]

huh?

[nimble sluice]

what
pronoun

asking for information specifying something.
"what is your name?"
2.
the thing or things that (used in specifying something).
"what we need is a commitment"
determiner
1.
asking for information specifying something.
"what time is it?"
2.
(referring to the whole of an amount) whatever.
"he had been robbed of what little money he had"
adverb
1.
to what extent?
"what does it matter?"
2.
used to indicate an estimate or approximation.
"see you, what, about four?"

[livid ice]

What

[zenith cloud]

What

[left ore]

he's explaining what "what" means. due to this comment. he sure is a funny lad.

[spice elk]

bro has achieved comedy

[orchid frost]

Do you plan on adding back the helmet armor disable mod? It seems the issue is back with helmets not clearing with entity’s

[spice elk]

I think I didn't delete it

[proper bane]

bacon how come suppressors dont work with RHS from your mod 😦 im sad

[orchid frost]

It’s not deleted but it doesn’t work, at least for me. The helmets after dropped just stay there.

[vernal summit]

The suppressor mod or the supressor item?

[left ore]

I think he means that the suppressor item from bacons doesn't fit into the RHS weapons. which yeah is a bummer but it is what it is ig

RHS has had a suppressor in their mod if I'm not mistaken but they took it out. ig just wait for vanilla support

[snow kettle]

Nah its still in the box

Comes on one of the m27s and the sound works just doesn’t actually have an affect with ai

[spice elk]

I see no reason why they would

[proper bane]

😭 would be nice to slap a suppressor on you know? Or a flashlight bubba

[silent plaza]

at RHS we are waiting for vanilla supressor mechanics, and I'm sure that @spice elk would switch to that as well when available. Then everything will be compatible

[spice elk]

Would be nice if people stopped bothering me with random requests and suggestions

[proper bane]

Sorry bubba 😭you know I love you pookie

[proper bane]

😭✋🏽that road map be killing me sometimes lol!! But man I’m exciting the LAV and mortars

[spice elk]

If I like it sure. Something not being in vanilla hasn't stopped you before, why wait with something so simple?

[silent plaza]

weeell, if its on the BI roadmap explicitly we tend to not jump on it, especially if there is plenty of other things to add, especially because you then end up with multiple modded incompatible implementations. So honestly people seem to like your silenced weapons and thats great. The silencers we do have in RHS are just waiting for the vanilla or have naive implementations that are for fun.

[spice elk]

Too bad controlling sounds via script is only through signals

[spice elk]

I have "reactivated" the mod

[orchid frost]

Thanks bacon

[potent venture]

Do the saved loadouts from the editor mod save over different servers

[ripe blaze]

no it saves to the servers files

the mod generates a folder for each faction that has at least 1 saved loadout, and creates a folder for each player inside that faction.
you might be able to copy over the files but it probably wouldnt work and wouldnt be worth the time

[radiant yew]

I miss you bud

[spice elk]

It will work if it runs the same mods

[sturdy sedge]

hey bacon qeustion about the gas in gamemasterFX, it only nocks people out for me is that how its supposed to be as i see there is dmg type and such in there ?

[spice elk]

it is not lethal

[sturdy sedge]

isnt that the point of gass ? XD

[nimble sluice]

Not necessarily in a video game sense

[spice elk]

the point of things in my mods is to do what I want them to do

[sturdy sedge]

i get ya just was looking itno it as it just uncon people , and i saw there is dmg comp on it , it just doesnt do much . was looking in making it dmg people for a gaszone on a map

[spice elk]

I don't understand what you mean but my gas cloud is not lethal and it will stay this way

[sturdy sedge]

its not about the one that is in your pack im talking about if i override it and make a dmging one just to add it on the map in my server that uses your gamemaster as a dep , i just want it to kill people instead of uncon , but the dmg comp in it just doesnt do anything

[ripe delta]

I think he is yousing his GasDamaging trigger thats why adding the dmg comp wont work I think

[sturdy sedge]

its has a build in dmg part

[potent venture]

It would be cool if there was an atropine syringe or something like that in the mod to Revive people who got downed in the gas so it's abit more difficult to deal with or the ability to put gas masks on downed people

[spice elk]

Use the carry mod and carry them out of the gas, they will wake up in a few seconds

[potent venture]

Ah I getcha

[nimble sluice]

Bacon when he gets a gun:
https://www.reddit.com/r/tacticalgear/s/0l18neH4lX

Also where option to attach flashlight to flashlight 🐛

[woeful torrent]

sorry didnt search first, but are you aware, with your no ff mod, if a player is wearing a helmet they can still be downed by friendlies?

[raw zephyr]

That’s very strange n unfortunate 😂

[spice elk]

do they take any damage when this happens? what about explosions?

[slender totem]

Helmets are for pussys

[woeful torrent]

They just go unconscious that's it. But it's become a griefing tool for those in the know.

[slender totem]

Only gms can place it so if it’s become a griefing tool then you have bad gms

[glacial cove]

I think buddy skipped over that “in the know part”

[slender totem]

I mean I feel like it’s no secret gas masks help with gas

[spice elk]

is it only helmets or like bulletproof vests also?

[lunar pecan]

They added a feature a while ago where if a bullet strafes your helmet you drop unconscious, probably that

[slender totem]

Holy fuck excuse me I just woke up and I thought y’all were talking about gas 😂

I even read over it multiple times lol

[woeful torrent]

Only helmets with armor, not hats or caps.

[woeful torrent]

No idea what you're talking about, no GM's. Using it on pve conflict servers.

[slender totem]

Read what I said up there lol I had just woken up and thought you were talking about something else lmao

[woeful torrent]

yeah IDK, I just read the replys I was pinged in 🤷‍♂️ still not sure where you got gas from... 🤣

[real igloo]

I'm assuming from the only unconscious bit, if I'd just woken up that's what I'd assume

[woeful torrent]

so what is there like some mod that has toxic gas or something? if so I had no idea! 🤷‍♂️

[slender totem]

Lol bacons GM mod adds gas and I saw unconscious so I assumed you were talking about the gas

[rugged slate]

Hej Bacon I have question

How difficult would it be to add roof riding to the BTR?

[slender totem]

pretty sure there used to be a mod for that

[rugged slate]

There isn't one any more

[slender totem]

definitely doable, but bacon doesnt do mod requests

[rugged slate]

Who does?

[slender totem]

Most people dont tbh, modding is just a hobby for all these people so they just make what they want

[rugged slate]

Honestly though, someone should add roof riding

[lunar pecan]

Definitely seems possible #enf_showroom message

[rugged slate]

THEN WHY DON'T SOMEONE DO IT????

[spice elk]

Guys, this thread exists mostly for bug reports for my mods, please try to reduce the amount of spam in it

[rugged slate]

Sori 😦

[sinful berry]

@spice elk your mods are awesome and im trying to make a koth server and i was wondering if there are any ways you know of to edit or add to existing mod data id like to add some guns to the koth weapons menu attatchments too and then some vehicles aswell

[spice elk]

learn workbench, that should be sufficient

[sinful berry]

I have workbench and ive been tinkering with it but cannot seem to edit other workshop mods or add to them

[spice elk]

add them as dependency to your mod, then override in your mod assuming the license allows it

[sinful berry]

Alright il have to watch some videos spent the weekend making a dedicated server now i want to get koth up and running with modern weapons

[subtle spade]

Have you thought about a distant gunfight audio for gm fx? Kinda like the alarms but a firefight? Just a thought that crossed my mind

[spice elk]

no plans

[oblique fjord]

Pretty sure it’s already in game idk the mod tho

[ancient hill]

I put some into the game with operation overlord gmfx

[subtle spade]

Oh word

[ripe blaze]

think theres some in tfbb fx or something like that

[proper bane]

Bacon the rhs supressors reset in your editor

[spice elk]

no idea what you mean sorry

[silent plaza]

i think he means they are not persistig when you save the loadout, but its a problem on our side

[spice elk]

so you're doin suppressors now?

[rugged slate]

Bacon I love your pfp

[spice elk]

thank you I borrowed it from bonkon

[rugged slate]

Dontcha hate how you can't copy and paste stuff?

[wraith harness]

naaaaah :) they are still welded

[spice elk]

that means they never fall off, big brain

I wonder if vanilla ones will overheat and break

[sleek patio]

I doubt it, that kind of advanced feature is pretty rare in vanilla Reforger

[spice elk]

from a development point of view it's not advanced at all

[sleek patio]

I meant advanced as it goes further than very basic (from a player pov)

[spice elk]

they did bandaging individual limbs with medical update, so surely they have the ability to make suppressors blow up after some bullets are fired

[sleek patio]

True, and I'd love it, but the current playerbase seems way too "casual" for that kind of management (and the overall goal of that "game", going mainly PvP and feels way less tactical and less punishing than the precedent games of the serie)

[urban fjord]

@spice elk Where is it, that I can put a time message into the Admin tools

If i want a message to begin at 02:00 UTC, how do I use this

"scheduledChatMessages": [],

[spice elk]

#1094217375978618920 message

[sturdy sedge]

Changed: Integrated rest of muzzle attachment classes (pistol and 308) present in Attachments Compatibility addon with vanilla game. Please remove any dependency on the Attachments Compatibility addon in your mod, since it will clash with vanilla classes. Names of the muzzle classes are the same so it is not necessary to change it in the data itself.

will this break the sup mod @spice elk ?

[finite shadow]

That change is only on experimental at the moment. There is a lot of new stuff in that most recent exp update.

[spice elk]

what mod?

[sturdy sedge]

your suppressor system

[spice elk]

no idea, I will look into it when it releases into "stable"

[sturdy sedge]

hope its not gonna break a lot the one thing im most hped for is the fix for the stock ...

Tweaked: Prone weapon deployment offset of buttstock from shoulder has been changed to prevent weapon clipping into the head on experimental / no more idiotic scope bugging when prone (i hope)

[spice elk]

if things break then I'll fix them

[prisma birch]

Make sure to report you earnings bacon to the irs!

[spice elk]

What

[prisma birch]

For hosting servers, it was meant to go in the other chat lol

[spice elk]

Thankfully I don't have to report to the IRS but we have equally horrible institutions here

[spice elk]

m4 remaster progress update - about 30% done

[spice elk]

time to do LODs for the ris rails ugh

[nimble sluice]

Mhyes

Bruh that emote is literally called that lol

[raw canopy]

[sinful berry]

@spice elk supressor failure would be cool but it would only realisticly happen from exessive full auto so i mean realisticly 1 mag full auto makes it smoke 2 makes it glow 3 makes it start to be louder and 4 it fails but id do a cool down so if you could not ruin the supressor if you wait for it to cool off

[tawny flame]

Cool feature but I think it should be as a dependency rather than apart of the mod. Still cool nonetheless and can provide a balance to running quiet I guess.

[sinful berry]

Yea

[spice elk]

suppressor rockets, fire bullet and it flies and bonks the enemy

[sinful berry]

Alright wheres my tshirt cannon full of ball bearings and dirty socks and underwear tho

[tawny flame]

Your releasing a PMAG as well?

[formal swallow]

It’s on his roadmap, two kinds to be specific…one with a working window/viewport and one without a viewport.

[tawny flame]

Bet (Also appreciate the answer 👍)

[spice elk]

this model comes with a PMAG standard yeah

[vernal summit]

I noticed on the M4A1 the selector switch goes to FULL when you put the weapon on SAFE, and it goes to SAFE when you put it on FULL

[spice elk]

yes will be fixed in the remaster

[vernal summit]

[proper bane]

baco nshould we use your gartbage handler again.. the vanilla one doesnt see mto work

[empty swallow]

Was the API for an Arma deaths/player heat map ever a possibility or did it get canned?

[spice elk]

In an earlier version of admin tools it saved player positions

[proper bane]

SBR version as well??

[ripe blaze]

is exp server admin tools busted? server wont start with it. most likely something on my end though

[spice elk]

Check upload date

[wicked halo]

Out of curiosity, when you guys put out new firearm mods that use different calibers like 7.62, blackout, Etc, do those have different damage value over something like 556 in the game?

[spice elk]

for my own weapons if the bullet is not in the game I do my best to make it as realistic as possible, scouring the internet for velocity, penetration thickness and so on

I do not give unfair advantages to my weapons

[glacial cove]

Thank god for you being you

[wicked halo]

With the weather mod how often do thunderstorms happen?

[spice elk]

It's set to a few dozen seconds but in general thunderstorms are super weak in this game

[void hinge]

Has the remastered m4 been released yet?

[spice elk]

No

[slender totem]

Is this an issue on my end or the mod?

I know how to fix it but just curious

[spice elk]

I don't recognize that file, so it's not me

[rugged slate]

Bacon henlo fren

[slender totem]

Ok I just saw the server admin tools and thought it might be

[rugged slate]

Anyone ever say why Xbox can't host dedicated servers?

[spice elk]

this file does not exist in admin tools

[slender totem]

Ghost file

No clue where that came from then oh well

[spice elk]

maybe corrupt download

[spice elk]

posting this very unfinished wip so you guys know I haven't given up or anything, still lots of work left

[wraith harness]

❤️ fsp dd handguard is very based

[spice elk]

unfortunately I had to make the top rail attachment move forward instead of back because it would clip into the finger when holding the grip 😦

[wraith harness]

this is how its done irl

[spice elk]

I've seen more pics with lasers behind the irons than in front

[wraith harness]

both variants are fine i guess

[spice elk]

I can't have it move back until I can dynamically change ik pose, so I would then move the thumb off the top rail, but then it would probably clip into the left rail attachment

[hushed aspen]

Would it be possible to place attachments wherever you want on the rail??

Like in the future

[spice elk]

No mention of it on roadmap

[hushed aspen]

https://tenor.com/view/的9-gif-27299608

[spice elk]

Until I can adjust ik pose dynamically from script in an easy manner I will not be attempting more complex attachment functionality

[hushed aspen]

Understandable, have a great day chef

[unborn sky]

Would it not be possible to adjust it along the rail using AdjustSignalUserAction with procedural animation during inspect mode ? As far as I can see IK always wants to snap to one bone, so if that bone, or a parent bone of it is animated with proc anim, maybe the hand would follow ? Or is that the exact thing that isn't possible ?

[spice elk]

You can probably do it if you create your own anim graphs. But this is the opposite of "easy manner".

What I want is a script function that just changes the anim source at least. Ideally ik hand position could be just controlled with a vector.

[alpine drum]

C clamp stubby grip incoming 😭😭 finally

Soon cant wait it looks so good

[spice elk]

For the photo guys: editable light entities for GM. You can tweak brightness, cone angle, color and you get a movable light target to aim the light https://reforger.armaplatform.com/workshop/60C365D04BF06456-BaconPhotoProps

[tropic lava]

Fuck yeah

[slender totem]

Hell yeah this is sweet

[proper bane]

I cannot wait!!

[spice elk]

same

[spice elk]

retextured the UGL today, top is new

[proper bane]

Bro it looks so so good!!

[lilac granite]

Do you use substance painter?

[spice elk]

yes

[proper bane]

I’m mewing 🐱

[pale coral]

🤫🧏

[spice elk]

release in a few days if all goes well

[nimble sluice]

Yay

I'd assume the old peace dove spray painted Block 2 is dead eh?

[spice elk]

Unfortunately

[nimble sluice]

F

[spice elk]

But I am not sure if it's dead forever, might bring back an alternate skin option that looks similar later

But first I need to release the bare minimum because I have a backlog of other things, not all of them related to modding

[tawny flame]

Is SBR versions coming in this update too? I remember seeing a vid about them from you and curious if you still planned on including them at any point.

[dusk glen]

So in this “M4 Remaster”

• New Textures
• Different Barrel Lengths
• Grips
• Animated Window Mags
• Revised Camos

[nimble sluice]

Yay
Glad to see an improved version of my favorite gun mod regardless though

[rugged slate]

Please tell me there'll be tan rail covers

[spice elk]

this is mostly about new visuals, unfortunately the game's attachment system is very basic and will not allow me to do fancy things like allow one gun to use the block 2 rail and the urgi rail, so those will still need to come as separate base weapons - for example the URG-I should not take the grenade launcher, but the game does not allow me to easily disable the UGL from being put on it

[nimble sluice]

I'm curious how BI managed to disallow the regular M16 to be equipped with the 320 then

[spice elk]

the slot can and is disabled on start but cannot be toggled from script

[nimble sluice]

Ah gotcha

[spice elk]

I will try to add rail covers but they may be a bit weird, for example you wont be able to put them on the bottom rail of the block 2 because it will clip into foregrips, but I will do my best

[spice elk]

is it the one with the triangle rail? I dont have a model for it, and I dont want to add extra work for now, but I will try to find one after release

[tawny flame]

This is all I’m talking about (Edit: I understand though what you mean)

[spice elk]

there is a short ris rail in this image, top left, #1110586149740748890 message and I also have a short urgi rail but not sure if I have time to add it before the first release

I want to do the basics first and I can worry about anime stickers in a few months

[tawny flame]

Gotcha

[spice elk]

at one time I wanted to go a bit deeper into customization and allow changing skins of bolts, fire mode selector and charging handle separately but honestly no time for it and also a bit overkill

also the game really doesnt like me, look at what the character does with the elbow when I try to walk

[oblique fjord]

He has the cool 80s action hero shooting style

[spice elk]

if this is happening because the game just doesnt like the hand being so close to the receiver then my only alternative is a vertical grip with thumb down so the hand doesnt clip into attachments

[raw canopy]

@spice elk will all the barrels except the mk18 mod 0 barrel be 14.5in

[spice elk]

#1110586149740748890 message

[proper bane]

We call that chicken winging

Tbh it’s a real shooting style I don’t personally do it

[spice elk]

I think the elbow should stay low when moving, it looks like some bug to me

[proper bane]

I agree and it probably is 😭✋🏽

[nimble sluice]

Definitely looks quite unnatural tbh

[sweet palm]

@spice elk just wanted to say we really appreciate the Bacon Loadout editor. Makes things much easier.

[spice elk]

added sliders for light volume effects

[proven grail]

nice entity to be used in flashlights mods

[spice elk]

it's mostly for dudes that like taking photos in the game and dont have access to/dont want to use workbench

[proven grail]

yeah yeah very useful

[glacial cove]

What if you slightly collapsed the stock

[spice elk]

I'm not going to bother, the game is not ready for this kind of stuff it seems so I'll just do the best with what I got

[spring trellis]

Any chance of a hydra rail or is that not your thing?

[vernal summit]

Wouldnt it be more realistic to make him hold the handguard instead of the magwell?

[nimble sluice]

It would be, I'd assume that there's a reason he used that outdated grip

[formal swallow]

He did it so he doesn’t have to worry about clipping with attachment’s and peoples hands

[spice elk]

Hand and/or fingers would clip into attachments

I will probably do a vertical grip with the whole hand on it instead of c clamp

[vernal summit]

Is it possible to decide where individual fingers go?

[spice elk]

You need to make the entire hold pose

[vernal summit]

So it wouldnt be possible to say make it so thumb is more in-line with the rail rather than touching the top rail?

[spice elk]

Where? You have attachments on top, left and right. Seems like vertical grip is the only way not to clip into them.

[vernal summit]

Oh i see, yeah definitely go with a vertical grip in that case

[vernal summit]

Though I think you’d have to remodel those vertical grips, those VFGs are mostly meant for c-clamping

[spice elk]

I'll add a new one, not a stubby

[spring trellis]

You could keep the stubby for the longer variants and have a longer VFG for the shorter variants as long as the c clamp doesn’t clip with the longer rails, people dig the stubs.

[spice elk]

ideally long variants get stubby, afg, vfg and ability to take it off, but the short ones will have a glued on vfg with no ability to take it off

[rugged slate]

Bacon, how hard would it be to make some simple GM scripts (like copy and paste, attaching entities to eachother, etc.)?

[spice elk]

not hard, time consuming

[rugged slate]

Pain.

[spice elk]

more features - more time, for example if you ctrl+c on a truck full of people should it also copy the people? that would take more time making sure they are copied correctly with all their current gear

but one could skip that and only copy the "main" or "root" entity

[spice elk]

something like this?

[rugged slate]

Did you just make that?

[spice elk]

yeah its pretty basic

[real igloo]

It's beautiful

[rugged slate]

Please give us this mod

[spice elk]

it only works in singleplayer

[real igloo]

Tragic...

[spice elk]

remind me after I'm done with the m4 maybe I'll look into making this a real mod

[rugged slate]

PLEASE

[spice elk]

step 1 is probably make it work in multiplayer
step 2 is factor in items that are placed above the ground
step 3 is factor in items that are aligned to sea level
step 4 is make sure it respects entity budgets, probably

[rugged slate]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-i-need-it-gif-14006288

[spice elk]

oh yea step 5 is add sounds and notifications when something fails, that's about it
step 6 is make it respect entity attributes/properties, like amount of fuel in car

[rugged slate]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-anguish-venom-snake-scream-big-boss-gif-16644725

You torment me

[spice elk]

not as much as you torment me with gif spam

[tropic lava]

https://tenor.com/view/were-sorry-eric-cartman-kyle-broflovski-kenny-mccormick-south-park-gif-22198958

[sturdy sedge]

hey bacon what did i needed to do again if an item is not showing up in the arsenal ? both the sup and sight are not showing up but they are in the normal arsenal (talking aobut not showing in your arsenal *)

[sturdy sedge]

ah found it it wont see rifle attachment only weapon attachment 😛

[spice elk]

I have no idea what you are on about but glad you got it sorted out

[rugged slate]

How is progress on M4 mod?

[spice elk]

got distracted redoing the holo sight

[rugged slate]

Dedicated

[spice elk]

making LODs takes most of the time in the project, the first two LODs I prefer doing mostly manually

repeat for every asset

this mesh originally had 19881 triangles, 10334 points, lod1 right now has 14878 triangles, 7743 points

this means I've clicked and dragged 2591 times so far in this project, since I'm reducing it by collapsing one point at a time (most of the time)

[sleek patio]

Quality work always takes time

[spice elk]

you can see the consequence of not having LODs here #1052567632148181002 message

[alpine drum]

Kinda a dumb question and i know a shot in the dark u ever thought about expanding on your sights from the holo and specter with a aim point or magnifiers

[spice elk]

no plans

[sacred lagoon]

@spice elk will the new Eotech's have a tan variant?

[spring trellis]

I’d like to see one on a hydra mount With a peq on a 14.5 barrel.

[spice elk]

Sure

[sacred lagoon]

Would be nice!

[spice elk]

it's already in, I just need to work out how I want the reticle to look

reticle will probably be with dots, do we want separate xps3 with green color reticle?

there is support for multiple reticle colors in the game but no way to change them that I see, so until then I would do two versions

[sleek patio]

I find reticule color not to be so important (after all, in A3 most of the time we have to use red ones only and it's ok imo)
So more is always cool, but that specific subject is not important imo

[spice elk]

does anyone have photos of one of those being aimed at something very bright?

[pastel maple]

I would increase the brightness when there was a lot of sunlight

[spice elk]

I'm not doing dynamic brightness so will just try to make it look ok

[pastel maple]

Hmm okay

[spice elk]

game only has 2 brightness levels

[pastel maple]

Can there be an invisible sight for night vision (only night vision is visible )

[spice elk]

there are two brightness levels, that's it

[pastel maple]

Copy

[spice elk]

the game even has support for multiple reticles but no button to change it, or at least I don't see one

[wraith harness]

oh really?

[spice elk]

you can change them in script but I'm not going to bother

[sleek patio]

Multiple reticules for multiple zoom levels maybe ?

[spice elk]

no idea, I know there are multiple reticles in the code, that's all

[spice elk]

figured out a way to make the character hold the gun in a way that doesnt clip into any attachments

[nimble sluice]

Negative recoil

[proven grail]

This position really exists, it is used when your left or right side is free, depending on the hand you are using for support, and it is very useful, some special forces use it, it began to be used in the Vietnam War if I am not mistaken.

[nimble sluice]

That's just a vastly exaggerated c clamp, everyone uses it nowadays, not just SOF

[formal swallow]

Yeeeeesss!!

[nimble sluice]

That wouldn't be an EOtech, nor a holo at that point then. I don't think we need a cheap wish knock off, bad enough they exist IRL

[formal swallow]

You referring to the green recticle picture? If so I have news for you https://www.eotechinc.com/eotech-hws-xps2-green

[nimble sluice]

Turns out I still live in insert not current year

God bless turbocharged speed

[alpine drum]

Black ops 2 vibes

[regal bison]

Why not have it as red (i only know xbox controls) then when you press rb+y to change the brightness of the reticle it goes green

[spring trellis]

What about dimming for night vision?

[royal yarrow]

@haughty bolt

[regal bison]

Green could be the dimmed version

[spice elk]

Because the game does not have keybinds ro change it.

[rugged slate]

Bacon I must remind you to work on those GM updates like copy and paste

After you finish the M4 mod.

[spice elk]

what is the weight of the standard m4 receiver? lower + upper

[rugged slate]

Uhh.. Kilos or Pounds?

[spice elk]

whatever

[rugged slate]

No stock or barrel?

[spice elk]

just the upper and lower receiver

[rugged slate]

So about... Lemme check..

Idk, 2.5 pounds?

[spice elk]

let's wait for someone that has an answer

[rugged slate]

I own a replica AR-15, weighs about 6 or 7 pounds overall.

Reciever may be about 4 pounds

[spice elk]

dude

I know you are trying to help but I'll wait for someone that can answer my question

[rugged slate]

Aight man.

[sacred lagoon]

Stripped or w trigger group, selector, and bolt carrier included?

[nimble sluice]

About 4 kilos without a magazine afaik
For reference a fully loaded G36 is 4.2kg, the M4s are slightly heavier, with that being their unloaded weight

[sacred lagoon]

Stripped ar15 receiver set is 14 ounces. Bolt carrier adds 11.5 ounces. Not sure how much it weighs including selector, bolt catch, and trigger group but probably weighs an extra ounce or two. Don't have any blanks letting around to weigh.

This is excluding buffer tube, buffer spring, buffer, or stock. Hope this helps

[spice elk]

basically weight of the gun minus stock, buffer tube, barrel, handguard, magazine, pistol grip

[sacred lagoon]

I'm going to say 26.5-28 ounces depending on what components you use. Like I said receivers are 14 ounces and BCG is 11.5. all you're missing is trigger, bolt catch, and mag release. I'd say add 1.5-2 ounces for those and you're there.

[spice elk]

initial release tomorrow probably

[nimble sluice]

Heck yeah. Do you know whether it'll release as an update to the current M4 or as a separate mod?

[spice elk]

it'll be an update

[nimble sluice]

You're the best

[nimble sluice]

Absolutely brilliant

[viral wigeon]

looking to get a dark gru server? anyine here able to help me get into contact with bacon to set that up?

[proper bane]

Will this drop before Vultures 2? 😂😂🐱👈🏽

[spice elk]

I don't know what that is, also with stocks and grips

[proper bane]

Ahaha the newest Kanye West album coming soon soon

[proper bane]

Also it’s so beautiful!!! Are you able to mix and match??

[spice elk]

yes though there need to be 3 base guns for now, because the different types of handguards are not swappable between each other

for example the short rails dont swap with the urgi and block 2

[proper bane]

Ahh copy that! Man you’re doing 😩✋🏽 Is nothing short of insane! It’s like , (this is gonna sound nerdy) there this Roblox game where you can customize your weapons , soldiers, kit just about any way you want , and it’s getting close to that!

[spice elk]

the loadout editor needs a decent demo gun

[proper bane]

What are you thinking of?

[spice elk]

this is the demo gun

[oblique fjord]

It is cool

[sacred lagoon]

Would you be willing to give the 416 the same treatment? There's really not a really good 416 on the workshop currently.

[spice elk]

no, this is probably the last gun mod I'm going to do for a while

[nimble sluice]

:(

[sacred lagoon]

Totally understandable but still sad to hear. I'm sure you have bigger projects on your mind though

[proper bane]

Honestly I don’t blame you considering how long we’ve been following the posts about it! But don’t give up the skills you learned while doing thsi! I personally think you’re one of the GOATS keeping a pulse in Reforger!

[spice elk]

I want to do other types of mods, so far this project has been more time consuming than any other project I've done, even the loadout editor

[spice elk]

cursed build

[formal swallow]

Oh good heavens

[formal swallow]

Why’s the elcan so far forward😭

[spice elk]

idk where it should be, post a pic and ill change it

[formal swallow]

Bonk

[spice elk]

cool ill set it up, but it wont be over the irons since i dont want clipping

so like this probably

[rapid birch]

Yes

[spice elk]

is the holo sight ok?

[formal swallow]

Any chance of it being an inch more towards the rear? If not it’s alright. And the holo placement looks good

[spice elk]

current gear, I think I'll release tomorrow evening

[spice elk]

no it will clip into raised irons

[sleek patio]

you can't disable lifting iron sights when an optic is on ?

[left ore]

holy eye relief

[formal swallow]

He could, but he’s been working on this project for a decent amount now and would prefer to do a initial release and work on some other projects that need TLC

[spice elk]

I can if you script this in for me

[sleek patio]

I was legitimately curious as this is an obvious game breaking thing
from the very second that game was imagined, you could bet you left testicle people were gonna make modern weapon mods, modern optics, and those iron sights would clip
so I'm kinda surprised there is not an easy way to tun that off

[spice elk]

flippable irons are actually new in the mod, not even that is implemented in base game

[sleek patio]

not needed I guess
maybe an easier way to go around would not to include them in the base model but consider them optics so if you use another one they go
(well, "easier", still would need to rework the models, LODs, etc, so still time-consuming)
anyway that's not so big of a deal rn

[spice elk]

it gets complicated when you have something like the FSP handguard, which has its own irons, and you cannot turn off an attachment slot during the game (without creating this functionality yourself somehow)

just disabling the flip irons action will be enough whenever I have time for it

[sleek patio]

yeah no rush, and thanks again for your work 😉

[spice elk]

the engine also allows nesting attachments but once nested they are not interactable anymore

ie. I can make a handguard accept laser attachments but they will not show interactions in inspection etc, and optics won't be usable

[sacred lagoon]

Holo looks good. Reason for the optics needing to be entirely on the upper receiver and not on the handguard is IRL, the handguards have minor shifting from left to right and can impact your zero. That mk16 handguard you have on there has anti rotation screws, anti rotation wings, and notches into the upper receiver...and it still shifts.

[dusk glen]

Love to see this amount of customization, good shit on the progress so far!

[vernal summit]

That would make it too far forward on the rail, its not supposed to protrude into the handguard rails, otherwise you’d have to re-zero the gun everytime you do maintenance

[alpine drum]

Thought optics were to go over the dust cover which he just posted a pic of it over the dust cover

[vernal summit]

Yes

[alpine drum]

A man of culture lol also real boomstick or a aeg or gbbbr

[vernal summit]

GBBR

[alpine drum]

Ahh So a KWA

[vernal summit]

Nope

[spice elk]

lmao I wanted to release just now but irons fall down when firing omg what is this bug

[rugged slate]

Make the MW2 M4

If you're just showcasing setups

[vernal summit]

Make it yourself

[rugged slate]

The mods nOT EVEN OUT YET

[karmic garden]

Not a bug just a loose screw

[vernal summit]

Its a VFC Hk416D V2

[nimble sluice]

Broke the spring lmaowhatthefuck

[spice elk]

I published what I have so far, a bunch of stuff left to do tho

[formal swallow]

Hell yeah!

[formal swallow]

Is it everything in this image?

[spice elk]

yes

[formal swallow]

WOOOOOO! Mr Reforger at it again!

[spice elk]

calm down we dont know if it even works yet

[tawny flame]

😭

[formal swallow]

Can’t equip the RMR M17 optic to your inventory or the M17

[nimble sluice]

How you gonna screw that onto a 1913?

[formal swallow]

Wut?

[spice elk]

uhhhhh the m17 has a separate optic, suddenly doesnt work now?

[nimble sluice]

Most pistol RMRs are screwed into the slide or a specific side plate, you couldn't attach them to a picatinny rail without glue, tape or a drill

[formal swallow]

The RMR correct? If so I can’t put it on the M17 or put it into my inventory.

[spice elk]

there's some sort of bug with it, will check it out

[spice elk]

Fixed, updating now (both m17 and ris laser)

[formal swallow]

Also are the two SBR variants supposed to have access to the stubby or angled grips?

[spice elk]

no

because clipping etc etc

I also kinda dont understand why the mag doesnt show up in the loadout editor, for the m17

[formal swallow]

Yeah it’s a bit odd

[spice elk]

I have some color correction left to do, and no window pmags

[nimble sluice]

Ayy, you even fixed the thumb glitching into the way of your scope
https://www.xbox.com/play/media/6GdyPWHBuX

Also is there any way you could make a mag type that has several tracers and the last 5 again? Just like the vanilla STANAGs basically

[spice elk]

there are vanilla clone pmags yes

try to rest the gun on something when you have an angled grip lmao, more animation nonsense

[nimble sluice]

I tried both in that clip, but gotta give credit that it doesn't block you sight picture at all

[nimble sluice]

Unfortunately there's only one that has just the last 5 as tracers, usually you'd load a tracer every 5 round or so

[spice elk]

gotcha I'll fix it during the week

[nimble sluice]

So this one

[spice elk]

I'll try to add it in when I add the pmags without windows

[hushed aspen]

Tracers are usually loaded at the end of your magazine, typically machine guns use tracers every 5 rounds

[nimble sluice]

Thanks a lot. I didn't expect to be disappointed but the update is absolutely incredible

[hushed aspen]

So for the m4 the last 5 rounds would theoretically be tracers

[nimble sluice]

Might depend on SOP but we usually load a tracer every other round for target marking

[hushed aspen]

Also @spice elk optics wise, it’s personal preference on placement. I usually sit my optics(being anything under 2x magnification) just before my dust cover irl just for sight picture

[hushed aspen]

That’s for machine guns my man

[nimble sluice]

That's not for machine guns my man

[hushed aspen]

Ok

[formal swallow]

Happens when you mount to an object.

[spice elk]

yup, wish I knew why

[ripe delta]

Maybe because the Hand pose for the bottom attachment is obstructed because its mounted on something just a guess

[spice elk]

its just the hand rotation

[finite shadow]

That is the fun of the deployment mode, it has its own set of ik settings and it is a pain in the ass as the settings are setup in a stupid way

[spice elk]

unfortunately making this work with all the grips will be impossible

[finite shadow]

If it could be set to flatten the hand out you could brace the hand across the side of the handguard in deployed mode, or just have the hand across the top. But unfortunately the deployed mode copies the hand and fingers orientation and just rotates around that.

Clipping will always happen in the IK, too many options and no way to shift the hand around when an attachment is put on.

That is the joy of customisation.

[spice elk]

what I would like to see instead is just have it not do anything to the left hand

[finite shadow]

Yeah having that as an option in the prefab would be great, rather than having to position the hand independently for the deployed mode.

Wonder if BI could implement such an option if a ticket was raised?

[spice elk]

even if I set it to undefined it still glitches out

[finite shadow]

Yeah it will pull from the base weapon anim graph if you don't define. I tried that.

When they first brought in deploy mode and it broke literally every custom IK weapon due to pulling from the default graph position.

[spice elk]

it's quite surprising to me that there's no way to have it not touch the hand

I have gone through so many workbench "quirks" and crashes making this it has really discouraged me from doing guns ever

[spice elk]

I dont see deployment in anim graph

ah its in the main rifle graph

also weird how it rotates the hand 90 degrees

[nimble sluice]

In before you rotate it by 90 degrees to negate that and it breaks everything

[spice elk]

I can make it work for one grip but then it wont work with all other grips so it's a waste of time

[nimble sluice]

Just pretend it's the character doing this

[formal swallow]

I think a good mounted animation that would work for all grip variations is put the hand at the magwell (chicken wing one) or have the hand set on the butt stock like what Aussie did for some of his rifles in TFM.

[spice elk]

yea but I have no control over the fingers in deployment from the grip level and the hand seems to randomly rotate as well, seems like a waste of time

I will also redo the peq and the flashlight attachment visuals during the week

[spice elk]

if you have optics based on my old xps3 you may need to unfortunately update your mod as the old xps3 was removed and new xps3 prefab was created

[heavy creek]

Fuckin killing man 👍

[finite shadow]

Oof.

[spice elk]

in the update that is uploading now I have moved the hand out of the way but it will not be aligned to the grip until some changes are made in the game by the devs

I can align for one grip but not for 3

[pale coral]

You didn't secure it but a couple of nails in the sight and make sure its probably attached

[spice elk]

turns out there is no vanilla stanag mag with a tracer every 5th round, but I can make that happen in the pmags

[nimble sluice]

5 was just a number, I mean the one "atop several tracers" which has a tracer in the last five as well

[spice elk]

the one in your screenshot has only 5 at the end, no tracers inbetween

but I added a 5:1 tracer mag in today's update

[nimble sluice]

I could've sworn either your default mag for the peace dove Block 2 or that mag had that loading

[spice elk]

idk maybe it did

[spice elk]

fixed LODs as they were broken, also here's a comparison of LODs off vs on with 240 rifles, 15 fps difference

this is a better example, this is 47 FPS with 3600 rifles on screen, compared to 45 FPS above with only 240

unfortunately a lot of popular mods do not have LODs and are responsible for a lot of performance issues (in general, as far as fps is concerned anyway)

[nimble sluice]

Time for protests 🐛

[spice elk]

you can easily have 240 detailed assets in a scene without LODs if you factor in clothes on characters, that's why fps tanks on modded servers

[fast rapids]

Recently, I thought it would be a good idea to make some public QA spreadsheet

Just some Google doc that gives optimization + asset quality scores to popular mods

[spice elk]

I disagree not because it's not a good thing but because most if not all modders already know what LODs are, they just don't care

[fast rapids]

Well, that would at least make it easier to avoid. It's not like the average server admin inspects the models in the Workbench before adding a mod.

[spice elk]

you can easily see LODs swap in while playing (if you dont, even after lowering object detail in graphics options, it means there's no LOD)

but the cause of the issue is modders not taking the time to add LODs

[oblique fjord]

Just wanna say I experienced this not sure why

[spice elk]

can you try on latest version?

[oblique fjord]

Will double check soon 😁

[spice elk]

it has received many updates since release

[oblique fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/mines-zoolander-cool-swag-walking-gif-16900555

Bacon on his way to the depths of enfusion hell to create perfection

[swift cliff]

This has happened since the update, I have deleted all mods and tried to download again but its failing everytime

[spice elk]

modders have no control over workshop and how mods are downloaded

[swift cliff]

Ah okay thanks, didnt know if others were having issues

[spice elk]

I get this issue randomly on PC and then I have to go to documents/my games/armareforger/addons and delete the addons that are not downloading, then restart the game

[narrow berry]

Huge fan of the new rifles added, just curious if there was a reason why the Daniel defense vertical grip was selected over others out like like the BCM gunfighter, Tango, etc?

[spice elk]

model availability/quality etc, I have no personal preference

[narrow berry]

Was just curious cause it looks a little awkward on a tiny 11.5 build like the new one

[spice elk]

there was a discussion about this a bit above

[tawny flame]

Just wanted to let you know that your mod allows us to swap character models

Whether or not if this was intended I would love to have this to be left alone. It’s very helpful 😭

[spice elk]

Yeah I'm leaving this in

[crystal stream]

yo bacon!

Noticed today that if I make an item undraggable, unclickable, unstackable / disable the action component and have it on a players default loadout they can't remove that item in the og inventory (which is what we want)

But they can still remove that item through your loadout editor. Any idea how I could also prevent that happening?

[spice elk]

No. You can make the slot invalid (no loadout slot type). Generally if there is a slot it will show up in the editor.

If you uncheck Show In Inspection it will not allow to be emptied, until there's a better way.

The game has functionality for checking if a slot is locked but does not allow me to set a slot to locked

[crystal stream]

Will give that a go tomorrow, cheers

[formal swallow]

The rounds in the window seem off from the actual amount of ammo in the mag

[spice elk]

idk

[formal swallow]

Yeah I researched it after I sent the message and idk either at this point, I found pics like yours and then pics like this. I think it might be that V2 is different in V3 in that regard

[nimble sluice]

The indicator (for some reason) is the follower, which, when cartridges are depleted sufficiently lines up with the numbers
You can see them in both pictures, in bacon's it's black which indicates an older model and in Player's is orange

[rugged slate]

Will there be Magpul TMags?

[nimble sluice]

When I first read about that I was confused too because that doesn't make much sense imo, but some guy at magpul probably had his reasons

[vague robin]

Is it possible to see sometime in the future a grenade launcher attachment for the SBR as-well? I’m just asking out of curiosity

[spice elk]

it is possible yes, but as I have no public roadmap any suggestions about something that isnt already in the mod are ignored

[dusk glen]

Can we get a nuke plez

[spice elk]

spamming my thread isnt funny to me

[spice elk]

@proven galleon

[oblique fjord]

whenever I use these tan mags they are seated incorrectly

[spice elk]

Not my mags, no idea

[oblique fjord]

Ah shit they aren’t my bad

[spice elk]

I aligned my PMAGs to be vanilla m16 compatible so I'm pretty sure they are ok

[oblique fjord]

Yeah the black ones are great

[spice elk]

my tan and black mags are exactly the same except textures

[oblique fjord]

I must be using mags that look similar then

[spice elk]

but from your screenshots I think I will push the ctr stock a bit forward

[oblique fjord]

Mega

[raw zephyr]

That’s the phoenix ones I believe