Lasers for use with attachments compatibly

[silk ibex]

Will this be implemented?

[cunning crag]

I hope so, it's less jank than the suppressor I was working on so there's a chance it'll just work

[trim cosmos]

Possibilities for ir when night vision comes along 🥹

[cunning crag]

@topaz fiber multiplayer test?

[silk ibex]

Did someone hire you to make this?

[cunning crag]

yes and no, laser wasn't part of the project, this I'm doing for fun

[trim cosmos]

Bacon the man the myth the breakfast

[silk ibex]

Oh cool

[cunning crag]

lasers are cool

[trim cosmos]

Indeed

[topaz fiber]

Holy sh!t, you've done it already?

[trim cosmos]

Fastest modder in the west boi

Or east

[topaz fiber]

Forreal

[cunning crag]

I can already see people walking around with their guns on their back and their lasers on

you know people will forget to turn it off

[topaz fiber]

Looks very good already, great job

[trim cosmos]

Improvised ir stropes for helicopter people

[cunning crag]

use inspect mode to do morse code

[trim cosmos]

Didn’t even cross my mind but now it’s there

[silk ibex]

Can’t wait

[cunning crag]

aw it doesnt light up rain particles

[fleet mural]

bacon is community's 1 man mod/addon factory! 😊 👍

[cunning crag]

you say that but most of the things I make are smol

so multiple smol mods vs one big mod type of thing

[fleet mural]

Doesn't matter big or smol! 😄
If it's something useful even the smallest mod can make a big impact. 😉
I really like all those little detail!

[topaz fiber]

Is this one already in the workshop?

[cunning crag]

nope, working on it right now

[cunning crag]

@topaz fiber

[topaz fiber]

What m4 is that?

[cunning crag]

m4a1 block II on workshop

[topaz fiber]

Oh ok I see!!

[cunning crag]

I'm going to make some placeholder images for the mod page and drop it so you can test it and tell me what the bugs are

[topaz fiber]

Roger that

[cunning crag]

just update the m4 it should pull the things as dependencies

on the m4 you can have up to 3 attachments of this type, so you can run 3 lasers if you want

or more commonly laser + flashlight

[topaz fiber]

I will try as soon as I get home... I'll tell the boys of my group to start testing

[cunning crag]

dope, these attachments will work on other guns if modders have setup the slots for them (I didn't invent the slots, I just made items that use the slots)

theres one bug in multiplayer i have to squash

[cunning crag]

i think it squash now

[topaz fiber]

Ehi @cunning crag , my boys are checking out the mod right now and testing everything... The laser and taclight work just fine on your m4, they're trying to mount them on other weapons but so far only works on your m4... Will run more tests

[cunning crag]

they will work on guns that have ris attachments setup, it's up to modders to add them

they just need to press a button in workbench

pretty much

[topaz fiber]

👌Gotcha

[tacit flicker]

Amazing work bacon.

Can anyone confirm whether this mod works on console or not.

[cunning crag]

it works, I've just left a server with like 25 xbox players all using it

there are a few more bugs though but seems usable

[tacit flicker]

Awesome. I hope the laser works. I know that was one of the big problems with other mods that have laser pointer. Was it didn’t work on console.

[cunning crag]

there's a lot of things that can go wrong so it's not surprising

[ashen prairie]

I’m loving the m4a1 block 2 so far just wondering if you’d be able to make it where I can run the optics from the modern optics pack on your m4

[cunning crag]

you can, they work for me

[ashen prairie]

Really that’s weird I just tried it let me see if I could test it some more

[cunning crag]

just make sure you have latest versions of all the things involved

[ashen prairie]

Roger All my mods are updated I’m gonna test it again now

[cunning crag]

if you can't do it, plz send full mod list

list of mods you have loaded I mean

[ashen prairie]

Just figured it out

Great work man I’m really diggin it

The laser also works for me and I’m on console

[cunning crag]

neat

some more bug fixing during the week

[ashen prairie]

Hell yeah also does the suppressors work for you

[cunning crag]

probably not, if you can point me at a suppressor mod I could implement it'd be neat

[ashen prairie]

Ok I’ll see what I can do, I know that the suppressor that we use on the m4 comes from the 416 mod I believe but I’m not sure if there’s an individual mod for a suppressor

[cunning crag]

I was working on one last week, maybe I'll revisit it in a few days

the ones I've seen so far only modify the sound, they don't change AI reactions for example

[ashen prairie]

That’s would be dope man so far I’m loving it more than any other weapon mod

[ashen prairie]

Correct but I still do love the aesthetic

[cunning crag]

fair, I posted some suppressor work in progress footage in the #enf_showroom channel a few days ago

[ashen prairie]

Copy we appreciate your work 👌🏼

[sinful python]

Is that my M4A1 Block II or I'd there one you made?

[trim cosmos]

@cunning crag m4+RIS with modern optics 👌🏻👌🏻

[ashen prairie]

It’s bacons mod

[sinful python]

That's gonna get confusing, both names identical lol. I don't play much so need to actually get on and see what I have that is no longer needed.

I was watching on my phone and it looks like the same model as mine hence the question 🙃

[ashen prairie]

Lol I was confused too I thought it was your mod at first

[cunning crag]

it's a different model but the gun is the same so... understandable to look similar

issues with lasers and flashlights I've already fixed yesterday:

• on/off state was not synchronized for streamed entites and join-in-progress players (fixed now)
• item was on by default inside an arsenal (fixed)
• lenses of items were not synchronized with their state (fixed)
• laser artifact bugs because of fake volumetric light (fixed by disabling vol light)
  issues with lasers and flashlights to fix this week:
• can toggle it on and off on a gun that's on the ground
• when taking it off the gun (in the inventory ui, not in inspect mode) the light doesn't turn off
• when picking it up into a clothing storage like pants, chest etc inside the inventory UI the light does not turn off, leading to funny artifacts

[sinful python]

Makes mine obsolete, one less I need to update I reckon. Maybe lol.

[cunning crag]

you have an UGL though, is there a way we could work together in making the UGL a generic attachment to be able to be put on any gun that has a generic RIS underbarrel attachment configured?

I'm using generic RIS rail attachment classes for the lasers, I think we can use the RIS rail UGL attachment class to make an UGL that fits any weapon that has this kind of slot

your m4 looks great, I think it deserves to be on the workshop forever

you have interchangeable stocks function on it as well which is super cool

[trim cosmos]

Bacon and merc rifle tag team “Australian breakfast club”

[sinful python]

I honestly wouldn't have any idea how to do something like that, I originally had it set up as an attachment, but it stopped functioning and you couldn't aim down the sight of the launcher unless it was a fixed model component etc.

I do need to make it compatible with the RIS attachment compat mod, that will likely be a priority now, especially with your laser/flashlight system and how it works on consoles too.

[cunning crag]

I'll give it a shot once I deal with some of the issues with the lights

only thing I may need later is a ris ugl model

there is a special attachment type in the attachments compatibility mod called attachment ris ugl (or ugl ris i dont remember) that would be a good candidate

[sinful python]

I bought the model itself, then made my own mount bracket to attach it to the block ii as there wasn't one natively in the model of the ugl. I will be doing a full rework of the attachment system soon, new handguard options, barrel lengths etc so will be curious if I can get it functioning using one of those methods to get it working as an attachment instead of fixed.

No idea yet, but people like you give me hope of ways around limitations and the devs still keep dropping us bits that can come in handy even in ways that they don't expect.

Your AI affecting suppressor idea is great too

[cunning crag]

I wonder though with the handguards, they can't have their own attachment slots I think?

it would be neat if you got different attachment slot configs depending on the handguard

not all of them have 4 rails

[sinful python]

That is something I don't know about. I may just have each model as a separate gun, then do the attachment points individually, so for instance, the giesele handguard won't allow the launcher model due to the fact that I don't have a mounting bracket for an MLOK system made. I also then need to remember that the attachment compat mod, doesn't have MLOK specific rails, only RIS so that will be another issue I can foresee.

Lots of ideas, not sure how much time it will take to bring any to fruition.

[cunning crag]

since the weapon attachment slots are managed by the weapon component the only sensible thing that comes to mind is to have predefined attachment slots for all 4 sides and turn them on / off from within the handguard when it is attached to / removed from the weapon

maybe also change their positions/offsets if allowed in script

but separate weapon with a permanently attached handguard is definitely an option 😄 pretty much what I did with the m4 since I wouldn't want floating attachments for now

[sinful python]

Yeah exactly man

[cunning crag]

I don't expect people to spend a lot of time changing handguards to be honest, but then again I gave them 2 laser pointers and now they spend twice as long to decide on gear at an arsenal

just because they come in 2 colors

[cunning crag]

if the MLOK rails attachments can be managed similarly then we can try making a feature request for it in attachments compatibility, it might be just a class name

[sinful python]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-wtf-really-which-one-hungry-decisions-gif-13845127

[topaz fiber]

Hey boysss!! @sinful python , do you think the new laser and taclight from bacon can be compatible with your model?

[sinful python]

Yeah it would be if I get the time to change my attachment system to the RIS attachment mod, which is how his mod is set up for rail positions.

[cunning crag]

I'm hoping relying on this attachments compatibility mod makes it easily applicable

since this mod is pretty much always downloaded as a dependency for something

[sinful python]

I have got a question though, is your laser and flashlight system able to be used on say, my PEQ15 or my DBAL model? Or does it only function on your own models?

[cunning crag]

it doesn't rely on the model so you can inherit it, swap your model, change position and cone angles of the light, and so on

the only place where it talks to the model is it changes emissive texture color to match the desired light color

but if your materials have no emission then that part just does nothing

the only thing to keep in mind for the model is alignment of the scene root so that it actually sits connected to the rail (we're assuming that everyone has correct scales for the rails on the guns and the rail clamps on the attachment, right?... right...? 😨 )

you'll figure it out really quickly when you open the prefab

light intensity and color are in a component on the attachment entity, light cone angles, light textures are in a child entity of the attachment

in the future when/if we get official NVGs the same component could manage something like a IR laser (or in general multiple lights within the same attachment)

[cunning crag]

dang it keeps putting ugl of attachment class AttachmentRISUnderBarrel into an AttachmentShortRIS slot 😐 weird

[sinful python]

Check if the classname is a parent in the attachment.

[cunning crag]

I would need to mod the weapon attachment storage component of the game and I'd really like not to