enfusion_model

[sly bridge]

besides the fact that this could be optimized further a bit, looks like prt of the mesh is simply removed

try importing without merged meshes ticked

also try collapsing the entire front part to a single vert (for a single bullet) see how that gets imported

[sick shard]

Okay I'll give it a try I'll let you know how it goes

[prisma delta]

Another amateur question: is there any benefit to modeling a vehicle mesh as a single object for Arma?
If a piece complicates a mesh too much, is there any downside to making it a separate object from the body?

[delicate condor]

no downsides

does not need to be single mesh

in fact if you want moving parts it cant all be connected mesh

[prisma delta]

Will more "parts" affect performance or you don't think so

[delicate condor]

parts no

overall vertex/tris count

yes

[prisma delta]

Alright, sounds good, thanks for your help

[solemn goblet]

Would there be potentially more draw calls if you had separate object doors, hatches, etc?

[sly bridge]

draw calls has nothing to do with individual (not welded) meshes

best sort of advice is to model things like real things work in real life…

minus some nuts and bolts obviously

[karmic adder]

How can I generate a separate collider for each material in a mesh? The provided option doesn't do that for colliders (at least for me).

[last hill]

Make a primitive shaped box and work it around, give it a name and bring it across with the model after applying the required material to it? I have 4 colliders on my Block II mod, which is 4 primitive shapes using the ingame metal material. Plus the magazine using plastic.

[daring condor]

isnt that just if those use other mats?

[solemn goblet]

Nope. Separate objects referencing the same material create duplicate draws.

[daring condor]

but yeah modelling complex objects as seperate objects makes sense, there may be some uglyness with clipping geo but if you do your bakes right that should not be too much of an issue

[solemn goblet]

They don't 'combine' unless something in the entity creation process does something

[sick shard]

So I tried everything And can't seem to find the issue I did find something strange maybe you'd know but if I don't resize the object everything looks good but as soon at I resize it breaks the model

[daring condor]

sounds like an issue with verts being merged or faces being hidden if they are too small

[sick shard]

I can however jut rescale it in reforger tools and that still works fine

[daring condor]

in general this does seem prettty wasteful tho

how many tris is the belt?

[sick shard]

I'm aware lol I'll do an optimization pass shortly just been trying to get to the bottom of this lol

[daring condor]

also, ya made that rpd yourself or got it from somewhere?

[sick shard]

and no cgtrader

[daring condor]

hmm not bad not great i guess

could do with less geo

[sick shard]

sorry wrong count

same hting i guess lol

[daring condor]

no difference, ye

[solemn goblet]

I don't understand what you mean by this. Draw calls also correspond with materials within a mesh. If you have 3 seperate meshes (in enfusions case, 3 xobs) each mesh has the amount of materials draw calls applied to it. Something like Unity or Unreal draw call batching can fix this and that might exist similarly in Enfusion. If you have a mesh with 1000 materials but it's just a individual mesh you still have many many draw calls.

Or you could do it like Rage haha.

[daring condor]

we are talking about separate geometries in a single xob

objects as in objects in blender

[solemn goblet]

Yeah, separate geometries can have separate materials. This is how the Clone Troopers in BF2 work for example. I remember there are materials for the head and eyes seperate for example, but they are the same 'object' or in Enfusions case .xob

[daring condor]

its how almost everything works

[solemn goblet]

Yep, that's what I'm saying

[daring condor]

the amount of geo that would be needed to connect say a circular antenna to a tank is very wastefull

[solemn goblet]

So if it's all contained in a single xob referencing a single material, that's not an issue. But you can have separate materials within the same xob. The BTR70 does this for example with weld lines, the interior, etc. There are multiple materials on the same mesh.

Bohemia limits the footprint of last LODs material draws often too, with a 64x64 texture

[daring condor]

weak tbqh

[solemn goblet]

Like here is the BTR, as LOD's get bigger the amount of draws they give you is less on the shader and mesh front.

[daring condor]

im more powerful, i just do raw 3d scans with no lods

[karmic adder]

So there is no way to do this not manually?

[solemn goblet]

A lot of Bohemia LODs look like a decimate modifier, and the last LOD is also collision. You could get lazy collisions this way yep. I'll show you the helmet.

Hmm... I'm a liar actually. For the headgear example they do this haha. The ones in-game do not. They are expertly handmade it looks like. One sec...

So here is LOD3 for the headgear example

And here is the UTM (Enfusion collision)

This is them overlayed and wireframe. One is slightly forward for some reason (maybe bone merging silliness idk) but they are exactly the same minus the chinstrap. I'm guessing they had the foresight to remove that since your chinstrap isn't bulletproof 😛

Does that make sense @karmic adder ? It's kind of confusing so if you need help I'll join a vc and walk you through it.

[karmic adder]

So I would duplicate the last LOD, somehow separate it by materials and make the results collider objects?

[solemn goblet]

Yep. Separating materials is super easy.

I think blender enfusion tools will do this automatically when you apply a new collision material.

If not, it's as easy as removing it from the mesh and using the tools for a new one.

With the material selected just click here. Blender will save it in the .blend file if you need it later but it won't save it to the mesh.

[normal quail]

Really stupid question, but how do I change the placeholder picture when placing the new modded object in game

[bleak depot]

any tips why my probe volume angle in wrong way after import in workbench? i work with maya https://prnt.sc/IXaZ6RUirOpx https://prnt.sc/ERu5e3DATHs0

[round orbit]

Anyone know why my textures don't work? The shaders are set in blender, the BCR and NMO files are done through Substance Painter, the BCR and NMO files import into enfusion where I can see them properly but once set on my model the helmet is just all black.

https://gyazo.com/4a763a08937ecd462c98285343c9d7ba

[thorny galleon]

Check for vertex colour maybe? Could be wrong thou

[cedar stream]

How do i model leaves?

[chilly dragon]

you dont really model them you just put a texture onto a plane and apply that plane around the tree

or whatever

[slim silo]

Use a tree/vegetation generator program

like speedTree

Or TreeIt

Maya has a tree plugin as well

[cedar stream]

This is what im trying to do

[slim silo]

ohh

[rain wadi]

Use planes for leaves

[cedar stream]

how do i make the texture be applied to both sides of the plane?

Do i just copy the plane and invert normals?

[chilly dragon]

if your doing it in substance and you have an opacity channel it should just be applied to both sides

if not there are some tutorials online

[sly bridge]

read what i wrote. The bloke asked if he should model everything as a single mesh it he can get away with intersecting parts

nothing to do with draw calls

[sly bridge]

false

[sly bridge]

yes

[rain wadi]

Dunno how enfusion handles that but yeah you probably have to do that.

Or use the solidify modifier in blender

[chilly dragon]

It works for me 🤷‍♂️

[sly bridge]

it works in substance alright

but won’t work ingame

[valid hill]

is there no two sided option on alphad materials?

[chilly dragon]

Well I dunno what I did but it worked for me.

[sly bridge]

i dunno, that should be shader side of things, in general double sided materials can get heavy

[sly bridge]

can you post an image? from reforger?

[valid hill]

double sided materials are no different than duping and flipping the faces, other than it gets applied to the whole model. but for a tomato with only the leaves being needing to be double sided, i agree duping and flipping would be the way to go

[sly bridge]

that ^

[chilly dragon]

@sly bridge have a look in texture makers channel i was trying to figure it out last night and what seemed to make it work was chaning it to MatPBRTreeCrown from MatPBRbasic. I'll replicate it now

It isnt transparent until i change the material class

[cedar stream]

is there any easy way to overlap these? I want them to have the same texture

ive been doing it vertex by vertex but there has to be an easier way

[sly bridge]

no easy way without massive deform

unless you use a pretty tiny leaf and

[delicate condor]

make 1

uv map

duplicate

and then edit the shape

[cedar stream]

i found a stack overflow with the solution

[shell hedge]

tomato

[cedar stream]

Why are the leaves not casting shadow, though? I have it checked in the material

[frank robin]

gabe are you going to be putting these produce things in a pack? i would love them for my map.

basically need apples , tomatos , potatos , green jalepenos and cabbage to meet the vanilla needs

since those plants are in game

[solemn goblet]

The context is important though, vehicles. Many .xob's in ArmA have multiple materials on them. You are saying draw calls has nothing to do with a single mesh (or in this case, .xob). With respects to the materials you still need to be careful. Maybe you just haven't spent time working with REALLY bad material bloat but I don't have faith in everyone to just read it and roll with that.

draw calls has nothing to do with a single mesh

let me introduce you to 17 .emats on a single mesh

So for making vehicles, avoiding excess draws in your LODS is important. Because LOD0 vehicles probably have many many draws (even if it's a single .xob)

Here is how bohemia does it:

[sly bridge]

You keep pinging me, yet you didn't read what i wrote, and you didn't read what the original question was about, so here is a brief of it

1. the modeling question
   a. The question - should i model object X with parts, or do i need to model everything as a single welded mesh. Does that affect draw calls
   b. The answer - no, having multiple meshes does not affect draw calls

you are confusing a 3d mesh with a .xob. That is on you, i never made a single mention in regards to .xob, nor did the bloke that asked the question. There was no mention of the number of textures and material files in any of the previous discussion...

Back in the OFP times, there were addons that had an individual .pac file for each individual planar face, the number was ridiculous. Case of point, we had most of weapons and magazines, and sometimes even bullets on the same UV sheet in A3 in order to reduce both textures and rvmats used.

And before you take this condescending tone with me around here, please do understand that i've been into 3d art for almost 16 years now...

[solemn goblet]

The question is specifically (which you chose not to quote): Another amateur question: is there any benefit to modeling a vehicle mesh as a single object for Arma?
If a piece complicates a mesh too much, is there any downside to making it a separate object from the body?

Do you really think this guy is just modeling it and then never importing it into ArmA? I mean that's just a bad faith argument. Sure, you're technically correct if you interpret it your way, but that's silly. I look at your post history and it's nothing but passive aggression and unhelpfulness by the way. I even saw one post call you out for it. This is a new, cultivating community where people are trying to help. Maybe reflect on that. A lot of these modders are new people and we do need to hold their hand a bit. Anyway, I'm done talking about it.

[delicate condor]

Modeling and texturing are separate things and texturing was not in question here. Combined mesh or separate mesh does not affect possibility to assign any number of different textures/materials to an object

[solemn goblet]

Yep. You're right, I'm totally wrong, so let's move on then.

[hardy ginkgo]

having too much fun with the tools

[solemn goblet]

Have you gotten it driveable? A bike would be an awesome mod for folks

[sly bridge]

is there any benefit to modeling a vehicle mesh as a single object for Arma?
There is not benefit whatsoever. Be it Enfusion, Real Virtuality, Unreal, Unity or any other game out there, or VFX, Vizualization, with maybe the exception of Production
I look at your post history and it's nothing but passive aggression and unhelpfulness by the way.
I probably been doing tutorials and helping people since around 2004ish, have a look at wiki / forums etc. But sure, you do you then, sorry if i managed to roughen your feathers in the process

[hardy ginkgo]

not yet i just managed get my model into the workbench

other than that im a noob with the whole coding still

[solemn goblet]

I have a friend who is trying to code bikes soon, if you DM me we can maybe get you sorted.

[hardy ginkgo]

Sure, as soon as im done with the model ill hit u up, i have a few vehicles from the 1950s -> 1980s that will fit the Cold war era of arma is set in

[solemn goblet]

You made all these?

[hardy ginkgo]

well just a couple of bikes now

i will start modeling the others later on when i get the hang of these tools

[solemn goblet]

Any pedal bikes? There's a way to get them to work with IK that me and the fellas were talking about.

Potential way that is

[uneven seal]

Does anyone know the size of the vanilla doors and windows?

[calm rune]

Damn, so when people use a bad tone with you like you do with 70% of your comments towards other people on here you really get but hurt eh LOL then you gotta throw the 17 years bit out. Dude your ego is so big I don't see how you can fit through your room door.

I've been in this discord for 3 weeks and you are literally the only person ive seen that responds with a rude tone towards people. It is literally you vs everyone. I really don't get why they let you have that mod tag.

[hardy ginkgo]

quick update

[round orbit]

Anyone know why this isn't working?

[sly bridge]

thanks for your observations. ps: thanks for the concern, no need to worry about my doors though.

[tacit eagle]

That's a fantastic looking Model, Great work

[late veldt]

This looks amazing!

[prisma delta]

@solemn goblet@sly bridge I apologize to you guys because I didn't mean for it to turn into an argument. I appreciate your guys' help and input on the topic, and every time I've asked a question someone has helped me which is very kind.

I have experience with 3D modeling vehicles but what I do is visualization and surfacing, so like I said, my modeling knowledge for games is extremely limited. That's why I was unsure about what might be different with the workflow or how the model might need to be optimized for the game.

[sly bridge]

you're more than welcome, also no worries, not your fault, no reason to apologies. Modelling wise, the best advice one can give is to model it as closely as the real life counterpart would be assembled.

[solemn goblet]

No worries man. I'm just looking out for future performance of your mod. PuFu has a way of talking that comes off negative but I don't think he means anything by it.

Do you use something like Fusion 360 instead of Blender or Maya?

[prisma delta]

I'd like to learn Fusion 360 and Maya but I've mostly used Blender and Autodesk Alias for modeling

[solemn goblet]

Oh sick, yeah those will work fine for Enfusion. With vis do you make high resolution meshes? Like really soft edged, 0 faceted models? I don't really have any experience with that area so I'm genuinely lost on what a workflow for you might look like

[prisma delta]

Yeah the models are completely different which is why I'm amazed by all the optimization stuff lol. Our workflow in Blender starts out pretty simple with just a handful of faces, and we put a subdivision modifier over it and then readjust the mesh to fine-tune details like reflections. But by the end and with all the details, the model can be well over a million triangles.

[solemn goblet]

That's what I was hoping you'd say. This is actually part of most proprietary processes these days anyway. Using non-destructive workflows for a hi-res often works better too, since bringing it down is just a few clicks away.

[solemn goblet]

So here's a hi-res right, and this might be like 9,000,000 triangles/quads/faces whatever. And it might be dozens to hundreds of objects in the ouliner. This part I'm sure you're used to.

From here though, you can make a low resolution version that matches the overall silhouette. So from 9,000,000 you can go down to say, 25,000 triangles. This is what the game uses. Within blender, you would label these all the same as the high. So for tank_turret_high, you would have a corresponding low resolution tank_turret_low.

When you've got your lowres, it'll be kinda ugly in comparison but it'll match the shape of what you made.

Exporting all the selected objects (one for low and one for high) as an FBX and then using Substance Painters match by mesh name (or a similar addon for blender) you can get this:

So it's still the same wireframe as the more game accessible version, but it has the details of the high res version that you're used to working with.

There are WAY WAY better tutorials for this online but, this process is extremely common in games. There's a million ways to skin this cat though, so if you're more confident with poly modeling then do that. I personally think this method gets you the best look though.

[prisma delta]

Thanks for sending those images and describing it, I think that's the workflow I'll learn. It seems easy enough based on what I already know.

But I haven't actually used Substance Painter ever, and I've only done a little bit of texturing work, so that'll be new. Wow another Adobe product I have to pay a subscription for how exciting lol

[solemn goblet]

There's a perpetual license for like 500$ or whatever that I think is worth it. It's like the CS6 of programs and I can see it being used for the next 10 years.

That being said, there are potentially free addons for Blender that explode your model for you and let you bake just like Substance does.

[delicate condor]

It can be done in Blender yes. Setting up might take somewhat more time than using substance painter or some other 3D painter program that has ready made methods for many of the more tedious parts

but that is what one pays for with dedicated programs

time vs money

[unkempt grail]

Fusion 360 is quite intuitive to use. I've been trying blender over the past week or so and have considered going back to fusion 360 because I can work in it quite quickly
and I find the precision lines and obvious measurements helpful

[solemn goblet]

I think if you can make a good hires everything else is pretty easy though. A good lowpoly and a perfect lowpoly aren't too different and it only takes a month or so of practice to get good with that. Your good hires will give you more working room than almost all poly modeled objects will.

Any time I see a weapon made by god himself on ArtStation, the guy making it was using Fusion 360 😆

[unkempt grail]

This is lovely, have you considered making a sidecar?

[sly bridge]

there is no perpetual license for adobe substance painter afaik...
that being said, the best alternative to paying subscription is to grab it off steam directly
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1775390/Substance_3D_Painter_2022/

Steam

Substance 3D Painter 2022

Adobe Substance 3D Painter is the reference texturing app for 3D professionals and enthusiasts. From AAA Game Developers to Indies, from Feature Animation to Visual Effects studios, the industry uses Painter to bring their creations to life thanks to its unparalleled speed, flexibility and visual quality.You will get free updates on Steam up to ...

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[solemn goblet]

I got one, it's pretty sick

I use the 2022 one as well for some of the smart masks

It's entirely possible all the perpetual licenses have gone the way of the birds though, I got my license in 2018

[dapper oar]

Adobe nuked those within a year of buying Allegorithmic/Substance

[sly bridge]

yeah i am aware

[daring condor]

there is

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1775390/Substance_3D_Painter_2022/

Steam

Substance 3D Painter 2022

Adobe Substance 3D Painter is the reference texturing app for 3D professionals and enthusiasts. From AAA Game Developers to Indies, from Feature Animation to Visual Effects studios, the industry uses Painter to bring their creations to life thanks to its unparalleled speed, flexibility and visual quality.You will get free updates on Steam up to ...

Price

$149.99

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oh was linked

its perpetual for that version

no updates

mind you the steam license will end this year

well they will remain valid, but wont be sold post 22

[solemn goblet]

AH that's it, I have mine on steam.

[sly bridge]

there used to be perpetual license with a much lower upgrade cost before adobe

[daring condor]

yeah

adobe is adobe 🤷

[sly bridge]

that is what uro was referring to

[daring condor]

best to grab it on steam while its still available

[prisma delta]

Yeah I should probably buy it then

[sly bridge]

according to allegorithmic, the steam version will stay up forever and be available as a 1 version buy perpertual license

[solemn goblet]

My holy trinity of anti-subscriptionness is Blender, Affinity Designer, and Substance Painter on steam.

[sly bridge]

i'll try and dig some of the forum post about it (could have been discord)

[rain wadi]

Painter on Steam is the only way to get a perpetual license 👍

Asked the support just after the Adobe acquisition and they said the Steam license is perpetual

[daring condor]

yeah i also might be misremembering

[rain wadi]

but yeah you need steam to launch the software and steam can revoke your access to the software so...

[daring condor]

i remember reading somewhere that adobe plans to discontinue the steam version next year

no idea if its actually true now

[sly bridge]

yeah, i ended up on subscription in the end, because that is paid by via my office (just like all my subscriptions)

[rain wadi]

yep same, I have the subscription

[sly bridge]

neah, irc the deal of the acquisition was that there is always gonna be some sort of perpetual license, even if it is one via steam

which lets be honest, it is aimed exclusively at hobbies and indies

[rain wadi]

but I also converted my old steam license to an allegorithmic license in 2019

or 2020, I don't remember

I'm not using it anymore, the latest versions are much better imo

[dapper oar]

Allego promised no changes like that to the licencing, then they got CE roles in Adobe and didnt seem to care anymore.

[solemn goblet]

I read somewhere someone uploaded a picture of their toaster as their school ID or whatever so I mean... We're all students on this blessed day.

[rain wadi]

haha I know someone who did that

I can understand but there are also free solutions if you can't pay for painter

[dapper oar]

There is ArmorPaint [https://github.com/armory3d/armorpaint], an open-source app, not sure how good it is now, when I compiled it before it was very basic.
Epic threw a load of money at him through their OSS grants and the main dev seemed to go off on a mobile-first trajectory.

I use Marmoset Toolbag 4 for a lot of stuff, baking especially since Substance sucks for that.

[daring condor]

we could always just use mixer 🤪

[rain wadi]

Mixer is cool

[daring condor]

i tried using that

[rain wadi]

but I'm just too used to Painter

[daring condor]

its a pain

[solemn goblet]

I'm wondering what Toolbag is. I see the previewer a lot on ArtStation and it looks really clean.

[daring condor]

then got the student license for substance

[solemn goblet]

I've never really looked into it though.

[sly bridge]

substance bakes decently, come on. You have less control than with marmo, but it isn't bad

[daring condor]

baking software, they are breaking into 3d painting

[dapper oar]

less control = sucks 😄

[sly bridge]

also, newer max version do bake properly this time around, including mikkt tangents directly

[dapper oar]

yep 2023 is nice

[daring condor]

i use a mix of xnormal and substance for baking xd

[solemn goblet]

I'm a sucker for substance baking, they changed my life.

[sly bridge]

try baking a cavity in substance

[rain wadi]

Used Toolbag a lot for my renders. It's fast, pretty, easy. It's great. It's also an awesome tool for baking.

[dapper oar]

xnormal is good for building interior AOs tbh

[daring condor]

its great to get alphas for tank tracks

[rain wadi]

but I bake my models in painter anyway lol

[sly bridge]

mixer, while cool, is not a painter competitor, which is a pity, because neither is mari these days, and painter needs to have a real competitor

[solemn goblet]

I'll be honest, I don't really have a lot of experience baking with anything other than Substance. I've used it quite a bit. Maybe for BAF89 I'll tickle some other tools.

[daring condor]

on the free side there is xnormal and handplane

xnormal has a funky interface but is legit not bad at all

[dapper oar]

toolbag 4 has some nice painting stuff, substance is better in that regard though with more fine controls, I put a lot of effort in making my own substances so I'm kinda biased.

[rain wadi]

Hopefully they will improve it in the future. 👍

[sly bridge]

sort of unlikely, it is suppose to support their scanned dataset, and that's about it

[rain wadi]

Do any of you use Houdini?

[sly bridge]

lol

[daring condor]

i kinda want to give blender baking a try

the bevel node is just too cool

[rain wadi]

Not for Arma

[solemn goblet]

Blender baking really isn't that bad.

I just like Substance better

[daring condor]

the interface is... arcane

[solemn goblet]

I 100% do use blender baking for normal stamps tho

[daring condor]

if you have to select a node in your node tree to get a proper bake, maybe the interface could be better

[sly bridge]

not really, unless they changed it a lot, i am not savy enough for houdini

[daring condor]

or any bake at all

[limpid matrix]

Anyone know why my emissive materials dont glow when press play?

[daring condor]

create texture node
select texture node
bake to texture file
who came up with this insanity???

why do i need to use the shader editor to bake god damn normals???

[sly bridge]

images

[limpid matrix]

They need a texture?

[solemn goblet]

Only thing I can think of is emissive materials are uh.. additive or multiplicative so you need to represent that in the nodes. At least in unreal. I haven't made emissive stuff in Enfusion yet 😵

[dapper oar]

not for a while, its good if you want to code your own meshes, more for technical artists and large-scene vfx imo.
I know a guy who modeled the space shuttle with Houdini, down to every single heat shield tile by programming it, he got a job with Vray off the back of that iirc. 😅

[limpid matrix]

Well the texture glows in the Material editor

Just not in game

[sly bridge]

too many variables... ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[solemn goblet]

Huh. Yeah that sounds strange. Does it have LODs? I mean. There's 1000 things that could be slightly wrong to cause that.

[limpid matrix]

Its just a crap cube basically from Sketchup with a material on

0 LOD factors?

[solemn goblet]

I figured maybe you bought a game ready asset with LODs and didn't set the LODs right (and subsequent materials). I'm just grasping at straws lmao

[limpid matrix]

Yeye no worries.

Like not touched Materials or imported my own model apart from a sign yet

[sly bridge]

sketchup in itself might be the culprit, just saying

[limpid matrix]

So likely doing somet wrong

Want me to export one with blender then

[sly bridge]

firstly, don't use sketchup for game assets, not the tool for the job or for anything polygon modelling related

if you want help, post it on imgur

[solemn goblet]

Blender might be better for defining materials within a mesh. Using sketchup for ArmA is the most gigachad thing I've ever seen though. My brain refused to read it that way and read it as sketchfab.

[sly bridge]

including textures and material/shader settings

[limpid matrix]

Are nah

I know I'm just testing somet

I just know how to use it from when I used it at school a few years ago

[solemn goblet]

You could import your model from sketchfab into blender and tinker with it that way.

[daring condor]

only thing better is playdough and meshroom

[solemn goblet]

What's the one where you're like sculpting with a VR headset

[daring condor]

no its a 3d scanning software

FOSS

only works with nvidia tho afaik

[limpid matrix]

https://i.gyazo.com/c835508d4df5dda7c5750a7fc8d234bf.jpg

Nah same thing

Must be my Material

[solemn goblet]

Okay it actually looks emissive to me

[limpid matrix]

Huh you think?

[solemn goblet]

But in the shader it needs to be multiplied or something

[daring condor]

have ya checked at night?

[limpid matrix]

No lol

[daring condor]

breh

[solemn goblet]

Yeah someone smarter than me knows what I'm talking about.

For emissive to 'glow' they need multiplied within the shader output.

[limpid matrix]

Erm

Yes

Well. Its Emissive alright at night

[sly bridge]

sketchup and sketchfab are not the same thing man

[limpid matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/slap-forehead-guppy-we-can-be-heroes-ugh-smh-gif-19762564

[solemn goblet]

You have a '1' for your emissiveness vs like a streetlight which might have 50.

[daring condor]

sketchup is a cad software

[solemn goblet]

Haha yeah, Sketchup is like google earth modeling software, sketchfab is where you can buy a vest for like 20$

[daring condor]

sketchfab is pretty much the only website besides artstation id trust buying models from

[dapper oar]

and Epic Games owns both of them

[daring condor]

of course they do

[solemn goblet]

Hey, that's fine. I get 10 uploads a month now

[sly bridge]

ish, there are plenty rips on sketchfab.

[daring condor]

hell of a lot less than turbosquid or cgtrader from what ive seen

[solemn goblet]

rips being sold too 🤦‍♂️

[sly bridge]

or used to, less so than on cgtrader and tsquid

[limpid matrix]

Can you animate models?

Or Materials?

[solemn goblet]

Yep. The character is a model that is animated for example. Materials? Hopefully. That's a simple way of making tank treads.

Usually you'll need some sort of skeleton for the motion to be extrapolated onto.

A few good skeletons to look at are the M9 and some of the radios. You can modify them within Workbench and see how they move. Some of the templates are good to get an understanding of meshes outside of Enfusion.

https://github.com/BohemiaInteractive/Arma-Reforger-Samples

[tacit eagle]

I got an issue where parts connected to bones moves when viewed in the prefab, but looks good when inspecting the .xob

any ideas?

[solemn goblet]

@subtle rose had this issue and fixed it here: <#enfusion_model message>

Maybe you have the same issue

I think in his case he made a single frame of idle animation

[tacit eagle]

Well indeed that was the case

Thanks

[solemn goblet]

Awesome

[hardy ginkgo]

Probably when i make an Ural bike

[prisma fjord]

Finally finished modeling the H Barrier... first time modeling anything in Blender...

[solemn goblet]

Looks good man. Could probably smooth shade the inner faceting there and bobs your uncle.

I'd be weary about importing the mesh as a uh... mesh into Enfusion though. Bake it into a texture with alpha would probably work better for you. Baking it directly onto the bag behind it would be even better performance wise.

[subtle rose]

That looks like some very high poly on the top there

[solemn goblet]

Yeah Kuks if you're interested I'll show you the jist of a proprietary process within Blender.

[prime notch]

Using multires and then sculpting would solve that. Allows you to take a lower poly version out what youve already sculpted

Very handy

[daring condor]

looks aight, i would subd the shell tho and as stranger said bake the mesh into an alpha

in general you would ideally use a trimsheet here

[solemn goblet]

Oh good call

Yeah you could use a like... 32x32 trim sheet for this

[prisma fjord]

Yall are speaking a foreign language haha, time to dive down the rabbit hole

[daring condor]

trimsheets are pre made textures

[daring condor]

like this

[delicate condor]

Reforger also supports multimaterial

which is good for larger props

[sly bridge]

it also supports normals for decals

[daring condor]

some example geo

found on sketchfab

[prisma fjord]

Ah so the reality is you are making the actual model with as little poly as possible and then adding the details with textures?

[solemn goblet]

Yep, that's the jist of it.

[daring condor]

KINDA

soz

kinda

[solemn goblet]

If you're interested in some handholding I'm willing to give you a bit of a walkthrough on it.

[daring condor]

you also make a very high detailed model you take things like ambient occlusion and surface normals from

to fake detail

baking is really something magical

if you want you can even texture your high poly and bake the basecolour onto a low poly

but looks like you are mostly on your way there

shape is alright but could definitely use some work

[solemn goblet]

ID map on that wire with some normals onto the surface behind it

ez metal material

[daring condor]

couldnt you even use tesselation?

or is that only for the floor

[solemn goblet]

If you're baking it onto the surface behind it, anything else is just extra geo

[daring condor]

i mean in engine tesselation

[solemn goblet]

Maybe I'm not understanding

[valid hill]

thats not tessellation

[daring condor]

right, displacements

[valid hill]

thats Parallax Occlusion Mapping (POM for short)

[cedar stream]

this doesnt look like an H at all, i made a much better H barrier

[daring condor]

real h-barrier

[prisma fjord]

Thanks guys! Gave me some things to learn about for the week! Hopefully make some more progress soon

[solemn goblet]

Glad to hear it friend. If you have any hangups in Blender feel free to DM me.

[daring condor]

and if you are learning the very basics you can check the blender discord

[simple meteor]

are we going to have an animation wiki specifically for vehicles?

[delicate condor]

👍 pbr shading does make it so much better

[abstract burrow]

And most importantly - predictable. Unlike materials from A3

[split rampart]

@zenith quartz Sorry for ping, finished that revolver lol

[zenith quartz]

Nice. 👌

[solemn goblet]

I want to experiment with this myself. I saw one of the dev posts on artstation and it looks really intuitive. nice work 👍

[hoary herald]

far from done but shes coming along

sticking with the 80s/90s era stuff is interesting

[solemn goblet]

You and me both

[pure kayak]

is there a way to "define" where certain holsters are placed?

like pistol holster, primary holster

[simple meteor]

@normal quail can I send you a friend invit to talk about vehicles ?

[normal quail]

Sure

[willow sage]

And it's also fun to fit in that period. Nice Anvis6 Socket you have there boi.

[clear oak]

Hm, can I somehow attach a memory point to an object parented to a bone? For some reason they don't appear in .xob when I try importing that

[clear oak]

Nevermind, I just needed to attach the memory points directly to bones instead of their children objects

[pliant bolt]

Any idea what the poly count is on buildings rn? (including and excluding interior objects)

[sly bridge]

can’t you check in workbench directly?

[shell hedge]

at least 7

[pliant bolt]

I'm gonna have another look but last time I checked there's not really fully built buildings in there, maybe I looked wrong last time

[pliant bolt]

Mhmm seems to vary quite greatly, some are over 120k and some are like 40k, what is also funny is that the highest ones are the destroyed house models, but atleast this gives me a rough idea

[delicate condor]

there are so many different kinds of buildings that its not really possible to give any meaningful target number

find an example in similar size you want to do and go from there

if you want best optimization you make it with as less polies as possible

[tacit eagle]

Is here a trick for making reflective materials? Like Chrome

[sly bridge]

procedural or textured?

[tacit eagle]

Preferaby both, i got a nice chrome in SP2 but it does not quite make it in the editor

[zenith quartz]

Horrific blockout in anticipation of Enfusion helis.

Russian dolphin heli

[calm rune]

Almost looks like the alligator 🤣

[zenith quartz]

It's inspired by it.

Partially.

[clear oak]

How do I properly parent my mesh objects to bones? I tried the usual "blender" method of Shift-Clicking an object then its parent bone, then Ctrl+P and parent to bone, but when I import the model the mesh does not follow the bones movement, like in blender

Memory points do follow the bones properly though

[hoary herald]

Add an armature modifier and set the root bone in it

[clear oak]

The upper part of this model is parented to the green bone on the right and seems to work fine in blender

[clear oak]

Is it done by naming the bone v_root?

[hoary herald]

Not sure if you have to name it root but you probably have to set the armature

[clear oak]

You mean adding an Armature modifier for the upper part? I've tried that, my model becomes weirdly out-of-scale when imported and the upper part still doesn't follow the bone

[delicate condor]

you need to weight it

vertex weighting is what powers skeletal animation

[clear oak]

Thanks, I'll try that. I might've misinterpreted the instructions on the wiki and thought that weighting is only needed for deformable/character-like models

[delicate condor]

hard surface animations are just 100% weighting per part per bone

[clear oak]

Just tried that, my model became insanely huge again. Maybe it scales the meshes according to the bone sizes? Also sorry for possibly dumb questions, I just started learning all the rigging stuff overnight

[daring condor]

You're working in b3d it seems

Have you applied your scale?

[delicate condor]

yes you should not scale bones

rotation and translation are the means to move things

[clear oak]

I did not scale bones, just used their default scale and extruded the bones in edit mode (like in my screenshot above)

[daring condor]

Did you apply scale on your main mesh

[clear oak]

Also I applied all the transforms to the mesh objects, so they're all 1 1 1

[daring condor]

Oke

That's usually my first thing to check when I get weirdness

[tulip sail]

can i say make a bottle translucent? tried using 50% gray opacity map but it did nothing .

[delicate condor]

did you use correct suffix on the source file prior to converting it?

[calm rune]

Did you assign the mesh to the vertex group?

[tulip sail]

dont think u can make only part of the mesh transparent with the opacity mask sadly so its as good as i can fake it for now lol

[delicate condor]

did you use the texture suffixes??

where are you applying opacity mask?

[tulip sail]

let me boot it back up 2 secs

op map seems to do nothing lol

opacity map isnt packed into any other map is it?

gathered it was just a blacj n white image

[solemn goblet]

You can get around this by making two separate materials on the same mesh (in most engines).

Be weary of performance though, transparency kills

[tulip sail]

tbh it looks fine without it lol its only a water bottle anyway

[solemn goblet]

No worries. I remember having this problem in Unreal 🙂

[tulip sail]

am just surprised the opacity map does nothing. clearly ive done it wrong lol

[delicate condor]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:Textures#Texture_Properties

you may not have correct suffix on the texture

[tulip sail]

prob not 🙂 ta for that link tho

[spiral veldt]

Looking great!

I am in the early stages of making the monkey bomb 💣

[dry gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/alexswrld-alexswrid-monkey-gif-21748187

[chilly dragon]

whats an optimal face count for trees?

[delicate condor]

Depends a lot on the size and species. Best reference is to check polycount for the BI trees in the editors statistics

[chilly dragon]

Thank you very much

[chilly dragon]

actually Im having some difficulty finding the editor statistics, where are they?

[uneven vessel]

very excited and curious to see what you learn from making item-attachments @hoary herald , should make implementing rank slides/patches more possible

[hoary herald]

yeah gonig to experiment with it a bit

seems like a nice system

my biggest ? is the fact that they did some weird stuff regarding textures

the goggles for example has 2 sets of texture just for itself

i'm so used to trying to cram a bunch of stuff on one texture set

[uneven vessel]

Oh interesting

[hoary herald]

jsut seems wasteful but i do this for fun... so they might know something i dont

also may have been circumstantial

[uneven vessel]

Yeah it would hopefully suggest they've optimised texture loading so it's not as much of a concern as previous titles

and not just poor workflow

So for your helmet it's all on one 2k texture?

[hoary herald]

i put the helmet on a 2k and all the accessories on a 2k

for now

i'll see if this is the move or not

[uneven vessel]

yeah that sounds reasonable

[hoary herald]

i still have ton of space on the helmet one though so i can make additions like velcro etc on the sides

going to add to, to make varians

[uneven vessel]

yeah fair - one thing that is stuck in my mind that I haven't checked yet is whether users are able to add/remove 'attachments' from headgear/other inventory items in-game, like, is it as simple as a checkbox in enfusion tools or will it need to be scripted

[hoary herald]

as of right now no :/

least as far as i know

[uneven vessel]

Yeah that's what I figured

Have to presume it'll be available as an option soon, and if not it's something worth suggesting be added - at least a property in enfusion you could set

[hoary herald]

yeah

would be neat to have several head slots but

well ahve to see

[last hill]

The beauty of this workbench is how adaptable it is, hexcavate proves what is truly possible. I'd be surprised if modularity on all components was a thing that is possible given enough knowledge of the existing features and mechanics.

[uneven vessel]

It's definitely possible, my specific point is that currently appears to be hard coded which items can have attachments removed/added by the player - which ideally should be set to be an option in the enfusion tools

[solemn goblet]

It looks like the child system is recursive. So your radio attached to your radio pouch attached to your suspenders attached to your belt attached to your character is possible.

[fierce shard]

is there a way to make automatic collections? i do them manually, i dont know if thats wrong

[hoary herald]

almost ready to bring it into game

[lament solar]

That was quick

[delicate condor]

Could be one of them models off the interwebs Color is nice, reminds me of fallout

[prisma delta]

I think he meant he was already in the process of modeling it when he posted the reference...I hope

[clear oak]

Yes, I created a new vertex group in object data properties of the mesh object

[calm rune]

creating the vertex group and naming it is one thing, then you have to go into edit mode, select that area of the mesh then assign it to the vertex group you created. If you did that then Im not sure what is wrong.

[solemn goblet]

Maddii knows the process p good so it's prob them makin it

[sly bridge]

@hardy ginkgo- look, i modeled the same vespa as you did /s
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/107740897562636288/984128330234224660/unknown.png

this sort of stuff doesn't fly around here

@solemn goblet@prisma deltadefinitely doesn't looks like it....

@hardy ginkgosend me proof that this is your work via DM before i drop the ban hammer, because this mesh is not even free, is ripped - your message is deleted

[prisma delta]

Ah man, the big goof was posting it within an hour lol

[rain wadi]

oof

[solemn goblet]

Need an oblivion halt right there criminal scum emote

[sly bridge]

1. you didn't write that, you just made it look like you modeled it
2. you didn't made a textures (plural for it), you just cleaned up the stickers and changed the colors for the albedo / base color etc
3. this particular model is ripped, not bought

anything else you want to add?

to this particular post you made?

[solemn goblet]

[sly bridge]

just a note here, even if you don’t post it on this discord, it won’t make it to the workshop, so anyone doing that is going to

1. get his account banned
2. get his mod removed
3. waste his time for nothing

[sly bridge]

we have zero tolerance about that around here. i’m pretty sure i have posted about it several times now about this very issue - you have been banned indefinitely

[rain wadi]

Modelling your own stuff = ✅
Buying stuff and checking that the model is made by a serious person (and checking that the license allows to port it) from a serious platform = ✅
Buying stuff from a shady website =
Stealing stuff from ANYONE =

• just because you bought something doesn't mean you can do whatever you want with it (check the license)

[sly bridge]

that also stands true for models downloaded for free from places like sketchfab / artstation and other reputable places

[dapper oar]

Those sites advertising free 3d models you find on a search tend to be ripped or stolen/resold without licence, so they are on shaky ground to start with, best avoid that type of stuff completely.

Besides, learning how to 3D model and 3D modeling your own stuff is fun and educational, the reward and sense of achievement at the end of the process when you get those beauty renders of your own work done, well nothing quite beats that imo.

[last hill]

This is why I stick to CGTrader and try my best to do my homework

[lament solar]

"Modelling this old vespa right now🙂"

posts finished, game ready asset 12 minutes later

[solemn goblet]

You can also pay people to model stuff for you if your heavy on money and light on time. Just checking ArtStation for profiles that are open to freelancing opportunities with contact info gives you the chance to see their former work and negotiate prices.

Generally the absolute minimum most people are willing to model for you is like 20$/hr and this assumes they are sorta new themselves.

The odds of getting scammed from ArtStation are pretty low because that's essentially the world stage. People use their personal info, linkedin, etc on there. If they rip an asset and scam you well... They are omega fucked.

Oh and I should post this: https://foter.com/blog/how-to-attribute-creative-commons-photos/
This is just a good guide on creative commons licensing. Most stuff you buy on say, CGTrader, will have some of these symbols. Idk might help someone 🤷

[eager hill]

Do you think I should add holes in those places like on a real thing? Player won't be able to see them anyway, unless they try to look into other player's weapon which seems unlikely to happen.

For me it's kinda a waste of polycount

[solemn goblet]

This is a hires bake right?

[eager hill]

Yup, that's a high poly model

Everything is finished except of UV map and cleanup of lowpoly

[sly bridge]

you can get away with floaters

[solemn goblet]

Yeah I mean why not. You could make separate stamps too. That's what I generally do for small inward bools

[eager hill]

on the right one it's possible, but the left one should go straight through it

[solemn goblet]

Ah so it's a hole in the geometry that you can peephole through?

[eager hill]

yep

only the left one

and it has like 1mm of a diameter

[solemn goblet]

If that screw is thumb sized and the hole is relative to that then I mean... Just a little puff of height in Substance would work for me 🤷

Depends on where this is though I have no idea what it is

[sly bridge]

ahhh, generally speaking reforger seems a lot more forgiving in terms of polycount. If you get proper lods, i see no problem having a real hole in

it also depends if you can actually see it from first person

[daring condor]

consider that bohemia added that sordid inspect button

[eager hill]

That's how it looks irl

[solemn goblet]

Ahhhh okay I see

[last parcel]

i would say add it

[solemn goblet]

You can add it yeah, it's an attachment that is gonna be LOD1 from arms length away anyway.

[eager hill]

Fine, I'll add it

[daring condor]

add as much detail as you can

means you can sell it for more

[eager hill]

I'm not going to sell it. If I release it, it'll be open source so there is no point

[solemn goblet]

Nothing wrong with more hires to bake from IMO the question is will this every truly matter for the lowres: probably not. But just you wait you'll get comments in the addon
🤓 "UHMM AKTCHUALLY THERES A HOLE HERE"

And it's always the same person

[eager hill]

that's exactly the reason I'm asking about it. Some purists will get triggered because it's not exactly like the real thing

[daring condor]

Also more detail more gud

[fierce shard]

my collection crashes enfusion workbench when i import this is driving me crazyy

[daring condor]

When in doubt, bake it down

[solemn goblet]

is ArmA reforger updated as well as Reforger Tools?

[fierce shard]

yes it is

the collection has like 50 colliders, maybe thats the problem?

[solemn goblet]

Do the colliders look like an LOD0?

I don't think having 50 colliders is an issue so much as the geometry of those colliders.

I don't know if Enfusion has a collision triangle limit but if it does it is certainly lower than the mesh triangle limit.

[fierce shard]

yes but its not named LOD0

im kinda new in modeling

[solemn goblet]

Colliders should look like they are made for a PS1 game

[daring condor]

https://tenor.com/view/there-it-is-well-there-it-is-gif-8569483

[daring condor]

Or just some primitives, afaik

[solemn goblet]

I can't think of a better analogy haha. A good lazy method for colliders is to give it a decimate modifier and get it to sub 100 triangles. Depending on what it is you can go as low as 20-30.

Yeah, and the best performance method is to just outline the object with cubes.

[fierce shard]

i didnt make the colliders, i just shift d the whole model (was pretty lazy to them manually)

[daring condor]

Yeah then that's why it's fucked

Don't be lazy

[solemn goblet]

Someone smarter than me can tell you about convex vs concave and why it's important, but generally your collisions shouldn't have too much depth to them in order to save on performance. Why this is I don't know, and I could even be wrong now. But it was a thing back in the day 😛

[fierce shard]

oh that makes sense, didnt think that

[solemn goblet]

Lets see the model in question so I can better give you a good workflow

[fierce shard]

thank you gonna try that!

[solemn goblet]

I think it's better to have 5 convex cubes vs 1 concave mesh for collisions. technical artists tell me if I'm wrong here.

If you're making a milk crate for example*

[solemn goblet]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:FBX_Import#Collider_shape
Okay awesome, there's actually a whole section of this on the wiki.

[daring condor]

I think this is from the sample car mod

[solemn goblet]

Yeah so there's two types of colliders, there's the ballistics model and the phsyics model. The ballistics one is much more in-depth.

It's still a simplified version of LOD0 though.

[eager hill]

First hole is done

[solemn goblet]

Nice hole you got there man.

Using HardOps?

[eager hill]

nope, vertex bevel and transformed to circle

[daring condor]

Hah

The worst method

I approve

[solemn goblet]

Impressive

[eager hill]

that was made on lowpoly model and then used cylinder created like that as base for boolean for high poly

[solemn goblet]

Nah, it works. The worst method is one that looks ugly

Nothing is sacred for hires

[daring condor]

I use it all the time

Looptools is my most used add-on

Honestly no Idea why it isn't activated by default

[solemn goblet]

node wrangler isn't activated by default either. It's all a scam

[daring condor]

That's blenders way of telling you to stay away from texturing or baking in that software

Cuz it's ass

[solemn goblet]

Blenders compositor is pretty good though.

Need to be more tv shows done with Blender

Can't remember what the big studio one is, it's undoubtedly better but also not free

[daring condor]

You're literally the first person I've seen say anything good about that part lmao

[calm rune]

When it comes to micro details like this is helps to just bake these into the low poly.

[daring condor]

I don't do renders, but I always see people shit on the compositor

[solemn goblet]

Yeah this is his hires.

[calm rune]

Gotcha! I’ll shush now 🤣

[solemn goblet]

I'm just using Ian Hubert as my only example lmao I mean if that guy can pull it off then what am I doing with my life

[solemn goblet]

No worries man, it's actually better to assume the silliest and help from there

[eager hill]

It's definitely a highres model

[calm rune]

Holy! Yes indeed it is haha!

[daring condor]

You work with subsurf on?

[solemn goblet]

it reminds me of the first substance painter tutorial I ever watched

[eager hill]

modifier stack

[solemn goblet]

Whats remesh doin in there

[daring condor]

Why do you weight normals before subdiv?

[daring condor]

Fix subsurf + bevel issues

[eager hill]

even without cleanup of lowpoly it's around 6,5k verts

[daring condor]

Basically it makes it so you barely have to care about proper edge control

[solemn goblet]

Interesting. I've never done it like that

[daring condor]

And you brute force a high poly

[solemn goblet]

That seems more efficient

[daring condor]

Depends on your system

[eager hill]

weighted normal is not needed here, but I'm used to do it because of some archviz I work on sometimes where I just use bevel + weighted normal

[daring condor]

I tried to do it on a tank

To get any reasonable level of detail my pc tried to remesh it for minutes

[eager hill]

so I always put weighted normal and bevel together

[daring condor]

And I have a Ryzen 7

Useful on small assets like guns

Utterly useless on vehicles imho

[solemn goblet]

Can't you just enable and disable on a whim though

[daring condor]

It takes some time every time you do

[solemn goblet]

yeah just to check 🔍

[daring condor]

I ended up with like 100 million tries or something on a tank

[solemn goblet]

In Blender?

[daring condor]

Yes

Due to remesh

Very useful for small stuff

Very useless for bog stuff

https://youtube.com/c/Tosmo

[solemn goblet]

I never really use it but I might start.

[daring condor]

This guy has videos on that workflow

https://youtu.be/kBgYwSDC3wI

[sly bridge]

make sure you keep the parts you see on screen all the time around the glass pretty high

[eager hill]

I know, those places are pretty dense

[sly bridge]

if you check a3, early sights models are 32 faces cylinders, later ones are 76+

[daring condor]

Woops

Guess I messed up then

Oh well

[solemn goblet]

I keep facets on my models so that it may sparkle like a diamond in the sun

Here's a good way to check for faceting btw.

[bright cedar]

hello guys! i have a problem that i dont know to resolve. I have created an uniform in blender, i export it with all the features needed to import into Enfusion Engine with all bones selected, but when i import it in Enfusion Engine, it only appears with 4 bones without the rest of them, somebody knows what is the problem? cause my mind its breaking

upper uniform part

[solemn goblet]

Hop into creativity lounge and stream your blender for me

[bright cedar]

oks

[zenith quartz]

AK wooo

[thorny rivet]

RESOURCES (E): Non orthogonal transformation on collider 'UBX_Box' - Does anyone know how to solve this error?

[eager hill]

your collider is not a box

[thorny rivet]

so i created a box and scale it and resized it like this

[eager hill]

UBX collider has to look like that

[thorny rivet]

i cant resize it?

[eager hill]

you can

try applying scale

[calm rune]

doesnt the collider also need to be the same name as the model? ie: rifle_LOD0, UBX_rifle

so UBX_akm_7_62

[eager hill]

models can be built from many different objects so I'd say no

[bright raft]

Lookin good. I started doin XPS3 today, but using hardops workflow

[eager hill]

That's how sample weapon is built @calm rune

[eager hill]

looks great. Mine is almost done. Just finished cleanup of lowpoly and it turned out to be 4225 verts

[eager hill]

btw. use bolt factory addon for making bolts. It's much faster

[calm rune]

Yeah I know that I already weapons in my mod rigged

[thorny rivet]

how can i add material assigns to .xob? I need wood and metal

[calm rune]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:FBX_Import#:~:text=name for collider shape model

[bright raft]

Thnks, will try it out

[eager hill]

here I just called it UTM_Weapon and it works flawlessly

[calm rune]

Thats fair but I'd rather stick to the documentation as good practice.

[eager hill]

Well, that's a collider literally copied from the weapon sample

[calm rune]

again that's fair but I rather stick to the documentation that way I know if an error occurs later I know that would not be an issue because I followed the documentation.

[thorn topaz]

you may want to consider making that bevel wider to avoid aliasing, maybe not as wide as this example but just a bit more so that it has a wider curve visible while held in the players hands.
http://wiki.polycount.com/w/images/8/85/Normal_edge_thickness.jpg

[solemn goblet]

Lods son

[thorn topaz]

should have specified, first person view but not aim down sights

[simple meteor]

Do it on blender

[thorny rivet]

i has download a free model, so i dont know how to do that

[daring condor]

Counterpoint, just bake the bevel onto the mesh

Do vehicles not guns, you get away with more crimes

[delicate condor]

how bout buildings

[dapper oar]

I might do some just to figure them out, dip my feet so to speak.

[delicate condor]

[dapper oar]

just to explore the required functions for buildings, doors, windows, ladders, hatches etc

[pliant bolt]

@dapper oar If you do, I'd be extremely grateful if you were to post something about it (in terms of how to do stuff). I haven't really looked into it myself but I've started working on modeling some buildings for reforger

[dapper oar]

I'll try to if BI devs don't beat me to it on the wiki, they are publishing some good docs so far.

[pliant bolt]

Awesome

[cedar stream]

Here it is, officer

[solemn goblet]

One of the BI devs might have beaten you on ArtStation haha.

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/Ar4w3y This post shows a pretty good setup with RGB masks.

[dapper oar]

ah, I meant more for the rigging, textures are easy 😁

[solemn goblet]

Wait, rigging a house?

I'm stuck in BSP era, that just sounds painful haha.

[cedar stream]

I dont really know the workflow for these masks for different materials, sounds confusing to me

Using different textures is fine but how do i visualise the different materials with the masks in substance painter?

[solemn goblet]

There's a hacky way to set it up in substance.

Additive fills with exported masks set to their corresponding colors

I mean, I'm super generalizing it. It's way easier to do in something like Unreal

Or maybe it's the same in Enfusion. Once again I'm speaking from a different engine standpoint, maybe enfusion's node architecture is similar

Here's how I would do it in Unreal

[cedar stream]

Also i dont get what the advantage is for using multiple materials if i can set layers and stuff in substance

[solemn goblet]

You can get floors and walls like this. The masks look similar to the one in Enfusion

I think the advantage is texel density. Since walls are probably tiled, and the grunge is also tiled. HUGE buildings can't have texel density without tiling textures unless you used massive 8k maps or something.

There comes a point where VRAM swings back around to be more efficient, even though you're using like 8 1k textures blended together.

[cedar stream]

ah makes sense

[solemn goblet]

Yep. Anyway I gotta go watch Dexter with my wife. I'll try and figure this out for Enfusion in the next few weeks and if I remember I'll @ ya

[delicate condor]

Ive used Blenders node materials to represent multimaterial and it has worked very well

for Arma 3 that is.. Have not tried MM in enfusion yet but Id suspect with both renderers being pbr the represetnation will be far more accurate between blender and enfusion compared to blender and Arma3

it was not bad for A3 either but some quirks had to be followed

[simple meteor]

here https://prnt.sc/7lQuGMq0wZyM

then select your face and click on assign (edit mode)

[bright raft]

Thanks, will definitely improve this

[neon otter]

Hello, I imported an object with its colliders but when I am in game this one is not present, as if there were no colliders

[thorny cobalt]

You placed a prefab of this ingame right? can you show the components on the prefab

[neon otter]

yes @thorny cobalt

[thorny cobalt]

Inside enfusion workbench I mean

the prefab you place into the world

[thorny cobalt]

Ah thanks, try adding "RigidBody" component

[neon otter]

okay

it's work thx

[sly bridge]

nais, i see you are making the new stock, trigger guard and newer rear iron sights

[zenith quartz]

Yep!

Much prefer it over the 2016 production model.

[cedar stream]

anyone else getting errors when trying to set a material for the collider on a mesh? im 100% sure the name of the material is right

Im trying to set it to paper but for some reason it says metal on the error

[solemn goblet]

Using blender enfusion tools?

I don't think you can just copy the material definitions, I think there's some technical artistry that science can't explain involved within the blender tools.

[uneven vessel]

hey gang, is the process for exporting a character uniform in to enfusion tools with proper skeleton/bones/armature documented anywhere? I felt like I saw a video tutorial of bringing in headgear somewhere but can't find it - I've got to the point where I have set up my uniform and the model changes when the character wears it, but none of the bones are appearing on import

Aha! Found it. If anyone else was wondering: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8o3WnGLIQ_4

[last hill]

Would you be willing to share your knowledge of flipping up and down Magnifier? Script etc? Did you use PiP mode on the Magnifier, but standard sight mode on the red dot/eotech?

I am literally at the point of dropping mine but it doesn't function so it is literally just sitting there and has to be attached and removed to work :(

[bright raft]

Basicly I wrote ScriptComponent which handles flipping , and made it toggle using custom action. Rest is pretty normal, PIP for magnifier, and reddot is currently just a dot. Dont have access to my PC with reforger stuff, but I'll probably push scriptcomponent as separate mod this weekend to be used by others

[last hill]

No worries. Just rotates on a custom bone as pivot point?

[bright raft]

I think so, tho I had some issues with PIP if I remember

[last hill]

Yeah I am still trying to sort out a few issues I had with mine, it was all wobbly and off center etc. I am still learning what each function setting means in the prefab, not even diving into the HDR stuff, apart from dropping on the reticle texture.

Sorry for the off-topic moderators, this is likely animation/scripting more than model makers itself.

[sly bridge]

no worries, it’s a lot less offtopic than what i am used to…feel free to continue in other channels if required

[thorny rivet]

is there any ways to make new material on this model?

[sly bridge]

where's the model from...?

[thorny rivet]

I downloaded free model

from sketchfab i think

[daring condor]

If you downloaded from sketchfab you should have a file with the link and license in the archive file

[hoary herald]

almost done. still a bit of work to do, but they are in game and looking pretty decent i think

[solemn goblet]

Specular on the googles is on point

Looks so good

[hoary herald]

Yeah one thing i gotta sort is the opacity on the goggles...

[solemn goblet]

Is there a goggles worn and googles on the helmet version, or do the goggles attach to the helmet like the canteens do the belt?

I think you said you got the attachments working in our last convo but I wasn't sure if you stuck with that

[eager hill]

It'll take some time

[eager hill]

Baking finished. Went from almost 8 millions verts to just above 4k

[thorny rivet]

i dont have it

here it is

[daring condor]

strange

[thorny rivet]

i lost ton of time and here is my first weapon, it looks stupid now, but idk how to make second material for wood

[solemn goblet]

Like in Blender?

[thorny rivet]

yes

[solemn goblet]

I can show you how yeah. Go to Creativity lounge and watch my stream

[daring condor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnuK6xyi-qY

[calm rune]

What do you mean second material for wood? I can easily say substance painter but I doubt that’s the answer your looking for. Need to be more specific with what you are asking.

[sly bridge]

if you have gtx/rtx is almost instantly

[eager hill]

I had to do it with cpu. I have my old gtx1050ti and SP was giving me some errors that highres can't fit into vram

all other maps I did with gpu

only AO had this issue

[solemn goblet]

The model he bought has 2 materials instead of one. Not the most ideal scenario but not terrible either.

[pliant bolt]

Are there any video's out there that show the proces of texturing large objects and using multimaterials? I know arma 3 used to use it, and reforger also does now, but I'm not sure how to work with it with substance painter

[delicate condor]

dont think so. Substance painter is not the most optimal for multimaterial but I think I've heard some people making the multimaterial mask with it

basic gist of it is that it uses a 4 color mask (black, red, green, blue) to mix 4 different pbr texture sets together

[daring condor]

that do be how boheme handles its ak too

[solemn goblet]

It would allow you to replace the furniture in the future so I mean 🤷

[daring condor]

also allows you more control over the material differences

with the enfusion material settings

[cedar stream]

yes

[solemn goblet]

And this is for ballistics right?

I think ballistic models need to be 'FireGeo'

[cedar stream]

It is

[solemn goblet]

I got no idea

[cedar stream]

ill go through everything again

to make sure

[fast notch]

why didn't the textures transfer?

[sharp mist]

Hi, i have a problem with my truck. Wheels are falling trough the ground, and it only has collision with the terrain on the "main" cab, not the wheels. I tried a lot of thing and i just don't know what's wrong. One thing i am suspecting might be happening is that there is only fire geometry attached to wheels. But tbh i'd find it really strange if that thing is causing the problem, cause on my previous vehicle everything works fine with just fire geometry.

[mortal sentinel]

guys, are there any tutorials for making clothes for arma reforger? Like where do I start, I probably need the character model to make the clothes fit?

[daring condor]

for modelling?

[simple meteor]

I inherit from m998 why some parts are locked ? https://prnt.sc/LqCOlZbuFE0X

[daring condor]

there is literally no difference between any other tut and refrogger

[mortal sentinel]

yes, modelling a uniform, but I would need like a dummy character to fit it on probably? So I know how big to make the jacket, pants etc

[daring condor]

there is one on git

[ruby locust]

anyone know how to add collision to objects i add into the editor?

[cedar stream]

Is there any guide on layer presets?

[opal moat]

What is the process for retexturing a uniform?

Trying to get used to the Workbench and I need a simple project like that to work on

[calm rune]

You need to download the Arma Reforger samples off of GitHub then import the "character_sample" into any 3D application(Blender, Maya, Max, etc) then start to model whatever your heart desires. Marvelous Designer is a good application to make clothing but it also cost a monthly subscription.

[opal moat]

Circular array on jmesh broken for anyone else?????

[karmic adder]

When I import a mesh, it says "⚠ All interaction layers used" for it, but I don't see a way to specify interaction layers in the Blender Tools (only Game Material & Layer Preset).
How does this work?

[cedar osprey]

awesome model, cant wait for this

[cedar stream]

Maybe you havent checked custom properties when exporting from blender

[lament solar]

First time making a real weapon rather than sci-fi stuff

TT-M48

Basicaly Hungarian Tokarev

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAUBY0HVyMA

watching this guy to learn some new methods

[spring pond]

it aint locked... its disabled

[simple meteor]

I can't edit or delete the component

But I will try again thanks

[spring pond]

arma reforger prefab? if yes then send me link (RMB -> copy link) as i want to check it out cuz it sounds interesting

[simple meteor]

I'm not home rn, do that when I'm back

But I inherit from m998 base

And I was trying to remove glass in the component

And emissive lights

[spring pond]

for me its enabled and i can disable it

but in my case i wont be able to save that (with ctrl+S) as im currently editing reforger prefab and those are 'read only' but checked it with inherited prefab and it works too 🤷‍♂️ - keep in mind that workbench sometimes has some issues and best way to resolve them is to restart it 😉

any idea why when i spawn a soldier in game (or in play mode in world editor) then that radio is not mounted to their suspenders? i made it same way as it is for flashlight and that one works fine

they are both inside those suspenders

[lethal frigate]

Nice uniform

Will someone make that m93 that alot of arma 3 uniforms were based of

Just texture changes

[runic sail]

most items arent visible by default on character (or else you would see them running with their entire inventory next to their feet heh)
in case of radio, you will have to override IsVisibleEquipped() in SCR_RadioComponent

[solemn goblet]

Thanks, I had this question as well so you've helped 2 people on this blessed day.

[molten patrol]

Is 11k polys LOD 1 for a weapon model too much?

[solemn goblet]

Nope, the AK is 19,000 for LOD0 so half that for LOD1 is within reason.

[molten patrol]

Thanks!

[solemn goblet]

I guess I'd have to see the wireframe to be completely certain though

[mortal sentinel]

thanks. I checked this sample character, but it seems to have only face and hands, the rest is modelled I don't know how, do they not use a skeleton/naked body to model around?

[calm rune]

import the sample_character then import sample_head.

[mortal sentinel]

ok, i'll try that

[spring pond]

it worked great, thank you! in my case i had to check in the script what it wanted and in case of radio its checking whether or not its set to "MANPACK" so instead of overriding script i just changed that in radio prefab (in SCR_RadioComponent)

[runic sail]

Thats probably not ideal solution because backpack radios have a bit different behavior in some parts of the script so it might create some unwanted behavior somewhere else

[spring pond]

so probably overriding this function and adding some additional exception would be better as it wouldnt have an impact on other functions that utilize that property

ill look into this, thx

[runic sail]

It shouldnt conflict with anything by default because this check is there only in context of equipment slots, and there are no equipment slots for personal radios in base game. Someone would have to add a slot for radios but at the same not want them to be visible (This is the case for wristwatch in game, equip slot for them makes sense because you could 'wear' them so they dont take space in inventory, but are invis so they dont clip)

But yes if you want super foolproof compatibility with other mods then you can do it as you described

[mortal sentinel]

which dude do I try to model clothes on? The big one or the small one?

it's from the sample mod

[tacit eagle]

the small one looks more detailed and is sculpted better so I'd assume that one

[solemn goblet]

The one that is about 1.8 blender units tall

[prisma delta]

what is the giga man for

[kindred thistle]

Giga man is the collision. Actually he shouldn't be giga, the armature was probably deleted

Question about models in enfusion, can you make it so that they react to the wind or movement? Like, idk, a skirt

[solemn goblet]

This is actually 100% what happened

[daring condor]

you could maybe fake the movement by assigning a little bit of influence to other parts of the leg?

[karmic adder]

What's the difference between Building and BuildingFire, is the latter for materials that would burn?
And what about BuildingView?

[mortal sentinel]

has anyone here made some clothes for reforger?

I imported the smaller guy into marvelous designer, but he's so freakin tiny

and I don't even think that's the correct arma body model, it already has a t shirt on, you dont have a t shirt when you remove the jacket

I really need the naked body to accurately make clothes

[mortal sentinel]

again, imported these lovers into marvelous design, they're like 10mm tall wtf

[daring condor]

where did you get them from?

https://github.com/BohemiaInteractive/Arma-Reforger-Samples/tree/main/SampleMod_NewCharacter

try this

[mortal sentinel]

it should be the same one

the main "new character" is just a clothes, head and hands, there's no body

at least when I hide the clothes in blender, there's no body

this is what I mean, there's no body under the clothes

I want to export the real reforger body to another app to create clothes that will fit 100%

this is from the sample btw, file Character_Rigify_Example.blend

[daring condor]

There was an issue with the character example in sample

Just use new character fbx from the one I linked

I checked it and the units seemed to fit

[mortal sentinel]

ok, I guess I don't have the updated one then, this was updated 15 days ago, I got mine almost a month ago, I'll try downloading this again

[calm rune]

Yeah you have the broken version. I can tell my looking at his broken feet lmao

[mortal sentinel]

ok, is this the right one? I still have to delete the collision guy, and this other model still has a shirt and underwear, nothing under them

this is from Character_Template.fbx and Head_Template.fbx

or is it just meant to have the shirt and underwear and I just model stuff on top of that?

[solemn goblet]

Eddie, try and use my weightref

#enfusion_model message

The head is missing because the example head had to weights, but you can add it if you like.

[mortal sentinel]

thanks, I'll check that

[daring condor]

That's not a shirt

The geo is just split up like that

Same at his ankles

[mortal sentinel]

oh lol, looked like a shirt

[solemn goblet]

I think that's the 'hitbox' of the character split up into firegeo skin materials or something

I really don't know how it works

[thorny galleon]

Make Character_example and head_example into one blender - sort object - export to FBX with custom properties turned on, leave everything expect mesh and armature. After that import the fbx into Avatar in MD with scaling set to Auto-Scaling and that should make it bigger

[thorny galleon]

If the finished garment that you make is bigger in blender, just Press S to scale and just fit it to the character fbx that we just did for example like this.

For the collision no need to remove just use sort object and that should make the collision goes into hiding mode. Collision looks like that since When imported into Enfusion it will auto rotate it and fit the right place(not sure since my memory is vague about this one)

[mortal sentinel]

ok, I got the scaling working I guess, but still need to resize after importing into blender. I have no idea what's next though. I made a test hat, what should I do in blender to make it fit the character when I add it in enfusion? I've seen some stuff about bones, weight paints etc

[thorny galleon]

Yeah so if the lets say finish garment is smaller / bigger when put into blender, go to object mode and select the garment and press S to scale it properly into the character example / model example

[thorny galleon]

You want to scale it so it's fit perfectly into the model which in this scenario is this model right here.

To make it simpler and cleaner use sort object on the enfusion blender tools, if u don't have it find some wiki on how to apply enfusion blender tools into blender, think theres some video on this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8o3WnGLIQ_4 after you resize it to the model use this video to help you understand how to import into enfusion.

[mortal sentinel]

oh nice, a video definitely will make it easier

thanks

[thorny galleon]

No problem

[mortal sentinel]

I'll have to do this "tomorrow" probably, 5 am already lol

but if this will work, I might try making some stuff

[thorny galleon]

Yeah no worries, rough start but this should help you get going into doing clothes importing

[mortal sentinel]

for me everything's kind of hard at the moment, 3d modeling is completely new to me, I guess I can make something, but the next issue is getting something in the game. I guess I'll try with clothes first

[thorny galleon]

Yeah, there's alot of people explaining on how to do weight painting etc on youtube just need to search it up and should give you rough estimate on how to do weight painting. Good trick to do is just use transfer weight since the character example already been weight painted, just need to transfer it into your model and smooth everything out.

For head related stuff you can check the headgear example :)

[clear oak]

Why is my collider offset in .xob when imported from blender? I made sure to apply all the transforms prior to exporting .fbx, but for some reason my collider is offset and rotated by a random value

[bright raft]

Can I use multiple xob in one object?

Currently I used attachment slot component but it isnt working best

[spring pond]

It depends what you want to do cuz for eg you can use SCR_EquipmentStorageComponent to add slot to cloths and if item has visibility set to True then it will show in that slot

[bright raft]

I'd like to add another object to my existing one. I have a magnifier and tried adding reddot with AttachmentSlotComponent. It kinda works, but when I open inventory, the added model is not visible, dont know if it is a bug or what.

Also I need to be able to find bones inside added prefab

[spring pond]

Idk about that at top but bones can be seen in when you open xob (located in assets sub folder) and seitching to bones in detail (right side in workbench)

[wide glacier]

would like to learn how to make objects for this game where would i start :)

[bright raft]

I meant in script 😉 I figured that part out

But still, model is not visible in inventory, but everywhere else it is 😦

[spring pond]

when i wanted to add radio to the vest i had to modify radio function override bool IsVisibleEquipped() in SCR_RadioComponent class in order to make it visible nvm i see that u said in inventory

[bright raft]

This is what I mean

[calm rune]

Looks like you have to scale down the size of the rifle as well.

[pine flame]

It may be an issue with inventory previews
I'd have to check, is the mod in question on workshop?

[bright raft]

Currently I made it in single mesh. Will get back to this subject with next publish

[tacit eagle]

Anyone working on a MP5sd?

[sly bridge]

why?

[tacit eagle]

Just out of curiosity

[sly bridge]

maybe

[tacit eagle]

I'm eager to make some OFP missions but just need the correct equipment - a balaclava and MP5SD

[karmic adder]

What's the difference between Building, BuildingFire and BuildingView?

[daring condor]

Just port the A2 mp5sd, it looks great still

(joking)

[solemn goblet]

SAS were using MP5SDs in 1989 no?

[prisma delta]

Is there a way that I can get the vanilla 3d models so I can attach them to my own model

I'd like to attach some weapons and backpacks specifically

[sly bridge]

get how? attach in what sense?

[prisma delta]

I'm making a vehicle and I'd just like to throw a backpack on the side and a weapon hung on the interior but I don't want to recreate them lol

[sly bridge]

i think that’s possible be using existing .xob in a new .et, isn’t it?

i haven’t checked it but it should be possible to use the existing these models like that, see how the jeep is made from multiple individual.xob parts

[prisma delta]

ok that was actually super easy, thanks lol

[sly bridge]

👍

[normal quail]

Has anyone got around to checking how destruction models work. I created one, added it to the prefab but its spawning then falling through the floor. I do have colliders set up in the model however these wont be active unless there is a prefab. I have created one but the destruction model is only after the .XOB. I have checked how BI have done there's but I cant see any real difference. Feels like I am missing a step

[dim gate]

it actually does, the first person view LOD is detailed enough to still be used in games, just redo the textures with PBR and it become even better

only lacking weapon model so far is the M16/M4 since they are missing the mag release button and some detail around it but everything else still hold up

[solemn goblet]

Facets on your models give it character really

[daring condor]

faceting is barely an issue

unless you look for it

[solemn goblet]

I'm my own biggest critic what can I say

[daring condor]

18 sides are enough for a 90% of cylinders

[solemn goblet]

I'm gonna enlarge my screen and see if any facets exist and subd until they dont

[daring condor]

you would nbeed to make a completely new high poly and bake it again

at that point itd make more sense to just make your own model from scratch that you then actually own

[solemn goblet]

I might make MP5SD in the far flung future for SAS

If ArmA 4 is also 1989 that would be ideal

[mortal sentinel]

anyone had this?

the loaded world in workshop seems to be locked?

I can't drag a prefab in there

ok if I make a subworld out of it then it works, but strange that it's locked or something

[warped hinge]

its how it should be :) So its normal :)

[cloud rampart]

How can i disable the view of a helmet on first person?

When a i look up, i see it, but in third it goes with the head

[mortal sentinel]

on the emat files:

in workbench

[cloud rampart]

Thanks, it works!

[calm rune]

Attempt at making a little North American Police Station

[mortal sentinel]

man, mask fitment is annoying. I fit everything perfectly in blender, but in game it's still clipping

and I'm fitting it on the sample character model's head, which is smaller than in game I guess?

[dense plover]

you making a balaclava, shemagh or a bandana?, as the last 2 are easier to fit than a bala.

[mortal sentinel]

a balaclava, it supposed to be a tight fit

but anyway, I might be using the wrong model to make it on? Or are all heads not the same in reforger...

but I did scale and fit it on the sample character, doesn't matter in game though

[mortal sentinel]

holy moly the head differences. White guy has a bit of neck clipping, asian guy has a way more clipping, black guy not only has neck clipping but the face as well, so I probably should model on the black model? But can I get the model somehow?

[calm rune]

You'll notice this as well with the chin strap on helmets. Even the vanilla helmets. I personally do not think all the head models are the same size. Which is going to be a pain in the ass to work with.

[mortal sentinel]

kind of sucks, but ok I could manage by making it for the biggest head then, wondering if I can get it somehow into blender. I see the heads in workshop

[cedar stream]

Can I only have 2 materials per Mesh?

I mean, is it the limit? im trying to get 3 materials but its not letting me, it only recognises 2

[delicate condor]

No the models can't be taken out

[delicate condor]

You should be able to have more

[last hill]

I can vouch for balaclavas being a pain in the ass. I have a possible workaround but yeah my AusG3 Pack balaclava was a PAIN and still has clipping in certain pose positions.

Will test my workaround idea and post back if I can get on my rig tonight to work on my mods.

[spring pond]

i might be wrong but it seems to be an issue with skeleton as on some heads bones are placed outside of head and thus chinstraps and stuff is not properly aligning with the head

like here (Head_White_10.xob)

[tidal latch]

All heads are using same skeleton (they have to) but head meshes is different

[mortal sentinel]

guys, how long does it usually take to import fbx into workbench? I made a balaclava which imported fairly quickly, but now importing pants is taking a while and workbench is kind of frozen meanwhile

I did cancel the import yesterday and saw that one of the generated files was like 100mb, fbx is 30mb

[mortal sentinel]

been 20 minutes, only 30mb fbx and 99mb txo imported, still missing xob and whatever, interesting

workbench still frozen

[mortal sentinel]

yep balls, the thing is frozen completely, probably nothing's being converted anymore. anyone had this problem, is 30 mb fbx too big?

don't know what I can do if it is, just regular pants fbx

[solemn goblet]

30mb sounds pretty big to me. What's your triangle count on them?

[mortal sentinel]

lemme check

ok blender says I have 436k vertices, 867k triangles

[delicate condor]

That is a lot

Like 20x too much

XD

It will take ages and will not work as game model

[mortal sentinel]

dang

is there a max?

still interested in what's the max, but when I removed subdivision modifier in blender, it went down to 18k vertices and 36k triangles

but I added the modifier so it looked a bit better

[delicate condor]

It might be able to import it after a while

But for good performance you should make optimized models

[bright raft]

There is no point in making pants 800k tris for game

[solemn goblet]

Baking a hires into a low res is how most studios do it these days

Grant Abbit has a good vid on this. You can also use the bakes within Substance painter (if you got it). Opens up tons of opportunities.

<#enfusion_model message>
I simplify the process here

<#enfusion_model message> And here's the Grant Vid.

[mortal sentinel]

oh right, forgot about the high res and low res stuff, maybe I need to do that then

atm I'm just experimenting if I can get stuff in game, so far a balaclava worked, trying pants now. If everything works, might try to actually make something useful

[solemn goblet]

you got this homie

[mortal sentinel]

one weird thing happening though is some parts are transparent in workbench, while it's normal in blender

I have invisible parts, something like that happened on a hat I imported as well

here's the same pants in blender, but everything's almost fine

[solemn goblet]

I'm pretty sure someone else had this issue and it had to do with weight paints for some reason

[mortal sentinel]

I transferred weight paints to these pants from Bohemia's sample character, but felt like it didn't really copy anything

[solemn goblet]

Also, wow that's an impressively good pants mesh. Make sure you got the right license to use that if you are uploading it to workshop.

[mortal sentinel]

thanks, I probably won't upload exactly these, as these have some issues and still need some work, atm just to test if I can make it work and wear them in game

[solemn goblet]

There's a solid vid on how to transfer weights in less than 3 minutes.

[mortal sentinel]

any chance you have a link to that? I transferred the weights the same way as one guy showed in a video for helmets, worked for my balaclava

[solemn goblet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPQ2QVVIxLU
Yeah sorry, I was looking everywhere for it.