enfusion_model

[fluid fern]

All in all, it's finished, but there are still a few things missing (errors I've encountered, pro tips, etc.).

[nocturne quartz]

yeah buildings are all low poly, its rare that you need to bake down stuff for a building

[rancid cape]

Making them in blender, uv mapping and textures and the rest of whats needed for a game ready asset.

[uneven vessel]

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYpQW46POnqI6vfZ39BLErcpbjch02e7R

I would say, making whole buildings is difficult and stretches quite a range of different skills - try to think about a smart way to build up your skills whilst making a set of progressively more difficult objects, e.g. starting with a road sign, progressing to a bench, then a bus stop, then a shed, then a small house etc

[sly bridge]

not really

[fossil fern]

Good morning, i have a Question and pls excuse me if iv missed it in the Docs been studying up on modding in Enfusion for current day 5...
When i am exporting my Buildings from Blender into Enusion, will i be exporting them as modules or as prefab?

[leaden chasm]

Is there any drawcall-related debug tools in workbench?

[shell hedge]

depends

try diag menu > statistics > meshobject or something like that you can see how many meshes and faces you have on screen

[stray bridge]

you will get a mesh (.xob)

[fossil fern]

Awesome thank you!

[sly bridge]

@dire dirge #creators_recruiting

[bold gorge]

Has anyone had issue with your colliders not importing at all?

I am making a weapon and my UTM collider imported just fine but my UCX collider has not imported and will not I’ve named it correctly

Capitolized. UCX_body
Anyone know why this collider is not importing am I missing something?

figured this out you need to make your colliders convex

[surreal ore]

Yes, if you use the prefix UCX_

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:FBX_Import#Collider_shape

[bold gorge]

okay I have my bones and I have then assigned and parented why are they still showing as plain axis instead of bones

[surreal ore]

They have to have something weighted to them to be "bones"

[leaden chasm]

If say i have 32 different tree models, what might be pros and cons regarding atlasing the last LODs into single texture vs separate textures for each model, performance-wise?

[shell hedge]

atlas wins as long as you expect them all to be very common on your terrain

however

this is getting into micro optimization level

[bold gorge]

Weight is already added it’s at 100percent for each vertex group

I did 100 percent as a test il smooth the weights later to somthing better

[valid zealot]

very stupid question but: is it possible/theoretically desirable to create a model in enfusion and export it back into P3D for the sake of an easier workflow to learn?

[surreal ore]

You don't "create models in Enfusion"

[valid zealot]

well, create in blender for enfusion

[surreal ore]

The model types for Enfusion and RV are completely different

The workflow isn't the same.

[valid zealot]

I'm aware - I can see you can convert one way (somewhat) but am curious as to the other direction

[surreal ore]

Write a blender plugin to convert an "Enfusion" FBXs data to RVs P3D data

[valid zealot]

makes sense, cheers

[surreal ore]

The modeling workflow for RV is way more documented than it is for Enfusion. Just learn the workflow.

[wicked dirge]

I'm confused as to the purpose of this exercise though

[surreal ore]

I think he wanted to create models for reforger, and then export/convert them to P3D. As opposed to just creating models for RV.

[normal raft]

How do i duplicate a xob?

[surreal ore]

Why?

[normal raft]

Tepache helped me with it, dont worry

[surreal ore]

I am worried, if you're "duplicating" xobs, you're stealing someone else's IP. And no one here appreciates that.

[normal raft]

I just needed help with retexturing the pasgt, but im not good with that stuff

[surreal ore]

Regardless, "duplicating xobs" sounds like you want to rip assets. No one here wants people doing that. Not mod creators or B.I.

[normal raft]

I understand

[delicate condor]

There is direct P3d export in blender with Arma toolbox addon. Absolutely no need to do any kind of conversion shenanigans inbetween. Also technical requirements are different so there isn't anything useful in such conversion.

[bold gorge]

https://youtu.be/tX84RGYau6A

anyone in here ever rig a weapon my skeliton is not importing and its weight painted and parented vertex groups are assigned im not sure what im doing wrong here

[steep marsh]

You need to change something in the model settings. "Export Skinning" or/and "Export Scene Hierachy"

[bold gorge]

yes, i am doing that

@steep marsh

[steep marsh]

You need to parent the model itself to the bones and assign the part to the right bone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyXbwzvfVog&list=PLW_2sDEfasH1FfrJgHpyUviFuC15CP_Ih&index=1 i worked with that tutorial

[surreal ore]

Just give the model an armature modifier and choose your armature

[fathom bolt]

model is from stalker ?

[granite marsh]

any idea what i need to fix to keep the camera from going through a building wall in 3rd person

[stray bridge]

use buildingfireview collider instead of whatver ur using rn because thats the wrong one

[woven meadow]

Why do you think it’s from stalker lmfao

[granite marsh]

ok so change the firegeo to buildingfireview!

[fathom bolt]

"STALKERPROJECT" and that a Grauss gun

[woven meadow]

I’m pretty sure that’s a m249 lmao

Nvm just looked again Fr looks like the fallout gauss gun though…

[fathom bolt]

Yes it can be fallout too cause there is too many polygons for stalker i think

[delicate condor]

[bold gorge]

Yes the actual model is from scetchfab but its for stalker

its not coming tho i cant figure out the damn skeliton bs

[stray bridge]

yep

[granite marsh]

thanks!

[surreal ore]

#enfusion_model message

[bold gorge]

finally got it

had to watch a 3hour long rigging tutorial haha

[surreal oracle]

not sure where to put this but does anyone have some free time to like go over vic modding ? ive looked at the wiki and im bit lost

[delicate condor]

best to write down your question here and people usually reply if they can help

[surreal oracle]

imm having issues w colliders

[sly bridge]

can you be more precise?

[surreal oracle]

i have some colliders set to fire view and fire geo as i red from the wiki

i followed the material base of the humvee

id jus like to bele to not walk thru it

[shell hedge]

vehicles in this game have more types of colliders than those two

check the hummvee xob

[surreal oracle]

just the base xob?

[shell hedge]

ya u can double click it to preview then go to colliders

[delicate condor]

Uu fancy looking mech! do we have any better pics?

[surreal oracle]

once i figurre out my collider issue ahaha and its low poly even for reforger atm

[surreal oracle]

for scale yh one of the legs is abit off

[delicate condor]

cool!

big fan of mechs! do post more when you progress

[surreal oracle]

if i progress lol

oh im also open to a colour scheme as it hasnt got one yet

[shell hedge]

red so it goes faster

[surreal oracle]

o course

[fluid fern]

I'm spinning, I don't understand why when I put the collider in buildingfireview, like this, my car can't pass the rail!

[surreal oracle]

least ur colliders work lol

[fluid fern]

It's not my first object, but I don't understand why it blocks! I even tested it with a simple square, not necessarily very high, but it doesn't fit (I compared the height with the wolf rails).

[stray bridge]

whats the goal here? To drive on the track or „trough“ it so it has no collision

[surreal oracle]

i did that used a basic cube got same results

[fluid fern]

To have a colission on the rails

[stray bridge]

i assume you setup the rigidbody?

[surreal oracle]

feel like im missing that?

[stray bridge]

without rigidbody component + setup you wont have collision out of thin air

[surreal oracle]

ite imma take my stuff n throw it in the dumpster

is it a blender thingg or enfusion component

[stray bridge]

enfusion component

to be added to the prefab / mesh

[surreal oracle]

alrighty might be wrongg asking here but alas i cant actually add components to said prefab?

[stray bridge]

show me

[surreal oracle]

register and reimport canne do that either

[surreal oracle]

you are a life saviour fml the component takes the layers and figures out the collisions from it?

[stray bridge]

now tick model geometry box and static if you want it static

[surreal oracle]

still nthn

[stray bridge]

show me again please

[surreal oracle]

its greyd out for some odd reason that i never read

[stray bridge]

what is greyed out? That looks fine to me. Try static just for the testing rn

so both ticked

I assume you want the mech do walk later on

[surreal oracle]

i mean the apply to prefab button is greyed out and cannot actually aplly components to said prefab and yh itll have kinematics so i guess i tick the kinematic box?

[stray bridge]

no dont tick it yet haha
you cannot apply because its not a prefab yet. Thats smth to worry about next but collision should work without it

[surreal oracle]

okay cool so its a last to add thing

[stray bridge]

If you dont know how to setup a prefab you should really go to the basic wikis again my guy

[surreal oracle]

yh tru

[fluid fern]

Ok I can't explain it but I reimported, 1,2 then a 3rd time and it passed, without changing my rigidbody, imcomprehansible

[fluid fern]

The BOXVOLUME can't be a round one?

[astral hull]

No

[fluid fern]

It's strange, though, because you can create round volumes on reforger, so why shouldn't it work on boxvolumes?

[astral hull]

Box volume is looking for minimal vertices to make a box

It’s only for making a box

[fluid fern]

Okay, but how do I do this when I have a cylindrical piece?

[astral hull]

Are you doing light probe stuff?

[fluid fern]

How do you mean?

[astral hull]

What is this for?

[fluid fern]

If you see my object clearly, I've created a tower with a rectangular piece inside and a round piece above. For the first box volume I need a cylinder, for the 2nd a ractangle.
The first one doesn't matter

[astral hull]

UCL_ is cylinder

Or you can use UTM_

[surreal ore]

Box volumes for probes have to be boxes. Not sure how that's unclear. A box is a box is a box. You can't make a cylinder a box volume.

[fluid fern]

oh SPHVOL_n for this

[fluid fern]

" (even for SPHVOL create box shape. It will transform to sphere during import in engine. "
It doesn't work for me, I've renamed my square (even for SPHVOL_01) and I still have problems when I want to import it.

[surreal ore]

Did you give it a material named dummyvolume?

[fluid fern]

Yep yep, maybe I need to spline my utm with the first part in UTM (rectangle) and UCL for the other part?

[surreal ore]

The resolution and colliders aren't the problem if the Volumes aren't importing

resolution lods*

[fluid fern]

RESOURCES (E): ExtractVolumeFromMesh(): Failed to extract volume, too few plane pairs! 2 plane pairs, 1 free planes
RESOURCES (W): Cannot extract probe volume SPHVOL_01!

[surreal ore]

Yeah, that's a problem with the volume, nothing else

[fluid fern]

And yet it's a simple square in blender with the mat dummyvolume_GUID + name SPHVOL_01

[surreal ore]

Well apparently it has too few plane pairs.

Edit mode, merge by distance

Sounds like it isn't a box and it's some planes places to look like one.

[fluid fern]

Yep, I corrected that, but as you can see from the photo, it doesn't take into account the entire top.

[surreal ore]

Adjust the size?

Why their isn't a cylinder, i'm not sure.

[fluid fern]

In this case I've completely enclosed the cylinder, there's better but it's completely out of place and inside it doesn't work or in some places it's buggy.

[surreal ore]

I think it would probably be okay to just use a box. But that's something for you to test

[tacit eagle]

Why is armature importing as memory points? How to fix it?

[surreal ore]

weight the mesh and give it an armature modifier

[surreal oracle]

any one have any ideas as to why this is ? I'm just looking to have the player teleport inside it

[hybrid mountain]

Under compartmentmanager component, create a door,
Under that compartment slot, add that door index to the doors list.

Door can look like this if it's not animated/fake

Door has to be "accessible" for the game to let you enter that compartment

[surreal oracle]

okay so i can make the bottom part of the mmech a 'fake door'

[hybrid mountain]

You can define multiple doors, and fake door might not be required but I think it might be an additional "safety" so it's not trying to fire up an animation or anything like that when used

[surreal oracle]

coool il let you know howw i get on

[hybrid mountain]

if you have 1 door, index would be 0 (in screenshot it's 2), because you can have multiple doors. Be warned that the door position is used for exit position so place it somewhere players won't get killed if they exit it.

[surreal oracle]

could it be an issue w colliders at all?

huzzah!

jus have to figure out the charracter pos

[reef sun]

If I make a collider with Projectile layer it just turns into invalid. Any ideas?

[last hill]

From memory, projectile had to be a specific type of collider from the list of the biki.

Can't remember though for sure.

[steel hare]

Hej guys, I wanted to start modelling some bigger and detailled structures, which polycount is okej for such an undertaking? How many faces do BI models usually have? Is there any kind of information on this?

[delicate condor]

you can look at such statistics in the workbench when you view the models

[steel hare]

Thanks a lot! I did not know this 😄

[flint swift]

What is the max ammount of Verticles, Edges, Trianlges, Faces for an model?

[fluid dragon]

does someone have a avatar of the reforger character that works in marvelous designer ?

[delicate condor]

millions. those maximums are not meant to be used though

always optimize your models

[flint swift]

i mean for in game, i know optimizing should be done but how big can it be?

last time my model was too big

[flint swift]

The model is realy big so optimizing is realy hard, last time i made a building it was too big

[delicate condor]

yeeeh thats not great

[flint swift]

its a building so its going to be very big yeah

[delicate condor]

there are reasons why big buildings are rarely made with interiors

you likely need to split it up

and use more textures for surface details

[flint swift]

alright thanks

[sly bridge]

kind of large model, especially for a building. If you keep only the needed geometry (game geometry) should be 10-15% of that

without windows, doors, furniture etv

[flint swift]

yeah, the point was to make it fully interior so you can run around in it but ill find another option

[shell hedge]

if the whole building is 1 model its not great

[sly bridge]

that works but generally speaking it shouldn’t end up being 350k

not sure about the amount of details, but it looks like a pretty simple model overall

[flint swift]

its actually 1 moddel of 3 buildings connected to each other

[sly bridge]

you made this model?

[flint swift]

no i bought it

got the license and everything i can also change it

[sly bridge]

kitbash aftermath pack
https://kitbash3d.com/cdn/shop/files/KITBASH3D--ASSET-MODEL--Aftermath--Large-Destroyed-City-Block--3D-Model_png_e4e5198a-da47-4368-bcec-dbbce37ca7f9.png?v=1719444953&width=800

[flint swift]

bought it from renderhub (a pack actualy)

[sly bridge]

yeah you should because these are not necessarily made for real time renders (like game engines)

[flint swift]

damn it told me it was "game ready"

[astral hull]

What’s the poly count

[flint swift]

how do i see polly count?

[astral hull]

In blender you can enable ‘statistics’ and see

[flint swift]

13 objects is the entire buidling pieces

[astral hull]

A structure like that should be maybe 70k

Ah

[sly bridge]

buying it from renderhub should have been pretty self explanatory

[flint swift]

Yup, my mistake, but im going to try to get it lowered

[noble ravine]

A good part to lower the poly will be in the broken parts. there is alot detail inside of the broken walls.

[astral hull]

That entire scene could be ~200k and run fine

[noble ravine]

If the asset will not be enterable or a hero asset. you can reduce a lot in the broken parts

[astral hull]

Easier on engine if u split it up into multiple parts, say each building being its own entity

[nocturne quartz]

200k is hero asset... like vehicles and what what not

buildings should be a lot less

[flint swift]

Lmao this look at the pillars they are made of cubes, i can defenetly get it down a lot more

[shell hedge]

beautiful

[astral hull]

That’s 3 buildings and debris, 200k is roughly what it would be

U can prob get it down to 30k a building

If u wanted

[noble ravine]

remember, kill all the cubes, specially the default one.

[arctic cedar]

hey folks!

Are there any examples that are preferable to copy weights from for equipment that *isn't * a helmet or a vest? So weights for trousers, shirts, boots etc?

[delicate condor]

character example exists

[steel hare]

I just checked the Workbench. The Diesel Power Plant in LOD0 has like 244000 vertices / 217000 faces

[arctic cedar]

I have that, but it seems to be one entire model, so if I had say a shirt, would I still just transfer the weights of the entire character model to the shirt like you would for a helmet?

[delicate condor]

yes you would use the body

leg weights would not affect shirt

and so on

[arctic cedar]

ahh cool, so it knows by proximity?

[delicate condor]

there are few different interpolation types but basically, yes

[surreal oracle]

so from reading the wiki you can move wherre the driver for vics is howmever im still stumped on how to ac move the driver pos?

[delicate condor]

The proxies are placed where the crew is wanted to be

Like in the samples

[surreal oracle]

yh i messed abt w the placment of stuff

[astral hull]

Yeah but lod0 is within like 5-10m

[flint swift]

Does "Limited dissolve" mess up my model in the editor?

[delicate condor]

it can.

[calm isle]

When should we convert our character models to the new skeleton? When the update drops?

[hazy crane]

Hi, does the v_ prefix on asset's mean something? vehicle? i've seen that some weapon assets bones and memoryPoints are named as w_

There is some naming rule? i see bones with prefix, memoryPoints with and without ... so a litlebit confused

[shell hedge]

No its just naming I think v for vehicle

[tidal latch]

v_ is for vehicle, w_ for weapon

it is sort of intended to make animating things easier, since when you have scene combining both character & weapon/vehicle, vehicle/weapon bones animations are i.e. listed in graph editor on bottom of the list (same in Blender)

[astral hull]

Vanilla naming conventions, u can use whatever you want as long as you are not using vanilla animations and graphs

If you do want to use existing animations and stuff everything needs to be named exactly like the vanilla counterpart

[hazy crane]

ok thx for the clarification.

[spiral hedge]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:Enfusion_Blender_Tools:_Skeleton_Updater

• Where can i find the new Template? "Character_Weights_Template_NewSkeleton.blend"

[rough lynx]

Isn't out yet since the skeleton change isn't applied in the exp release yet

[spiral hedge]

Will be good if we can get it a few days earlier, had to update around 40 Models.

[wicked dirge]

i imagine that once it is out on exp, it will stay on exp for a while to allow you to fix it before it goes to stable

[spiral hedge]

Last stable is from 22.08, we already got 2/3 EXP Updates in this time. So i think the stable will not take much longer.

[wicked dirge]

i would be surprised, given that this skeleton thing will destroy almost all equipment mods

[spiral hedge]

Yep 😄 😄

[wicked dirge]

rhs will need to update something like 200+ models

[shell hedge]

thankfully not all of them need face weights so you can just append the bones and export everything

I think it's weird that the clothing needs to match character armature 1 to 1 instead of only using bones that matter

why do I need to include knees with a jacket

[wicked dirge]

yeah, still the export needs to happen, will take ton of time

[shell hedge]

worth automating it?

[wicked dirge]

would work if all the things had consistent blend files, but this is not the case in the team

[shell hedge]

thoughts & prayers

[surreal ore]

I'd say the odds that they already have the new skeleton are higher than the odds that they don't.

[wicked dirge]

we do not (well i guess the RHS BI staff do, but its not in our repositories)

[shell hedge]

RHS conspiracy theory number 381

[surreal ore]

I wouldn't call it a conspiracy theory that they get special treatment

[shell hedge]

I want special treatment too

[wicked dirge]

i wouldnt call it anything special

but it helps that we have members that also work at BI, obviously when chages like this come, they are able to explain better and fatser what needs to be done to fix

so more like "knowing the right people and maintaining good relationships" with them.

[sand pagoda]

as well as arma 4 build and access to arma 5 alpha test

[wicked jasper]

[calm rune]

I wish we had the new skeleton. Even asked if I could have it. BI said nope. We have BI inside of RHS but we do not get the privileges that people like to assume 🤣

[shell hedge]

Thats exactly what someone with special privileges would say!

[calm rune]

Let’s just say I have over stepped and asked for a few things and got shot down immediately 🤣

I love BI but BI legal are mean

[surreal ore]

Call it what you want. Any treatment you get that everyone else doesn't get is special treatment, from B.I. directly or from it's employees. And of course one of your cronies would chime in to try to bait. My favorite thing is when an A & B conversation turns into C & D chiming in with their 2 cents. Enough with the off-topic though. I'm not special, I can get banned.

[wicked jasper]

🍿

[calm rune]

We can get banned too. I’ve been muted. If I continue with the childish behaviour I’ll also get a ban or timeout lol

Only difference between me and the folk that get banned or long timeouts is that when I am told to stop, I stop. They do not. Simple concept really.

[delicate condor]

Its not special treatment if you work in the place. Now please stop shit like this

(you get special treatment now for not even getting a warning because I cant be bothered to write it up)

[surreal ore]

Glad to know that having an opinion warrants disciplinary action but baiting doesn't. I said what I had to say and then ended the off-topic discussion. Yet here you are threatening me for some reason.

[delicate condor]

this is baiting

I can give you a warning for it

if you want

[surreal ore]

No, that was merely stating an opinion.

[delicate condor]

ok warning it is then

if you want to complain about that you can make a #discord_tickets

[midnight path]

wait a minute

can i ask a question without getting muted

[wicked dirge]

Oh wow, I thought we were having some fun but seems you are seriously passed at something?

[midnight path]

leave it alone @wicked dirge

[delicate condor]

for sure

[midnight path]

howcome anyone who says anything about rhs, that hits too close to home gets muted or banend

[delicate condor]

ok ill mute you too then

[midnight path]

i think i made my point.

[delicate condor]

it seems like it because for some reason you guys target RHS with this stuff

[midnight path]

dude

no

stop pushing that narrative

[delicate condor]

that is how it looks to me

[midnight path]

do you see what just happened here

[delicate condor]

probably not the same way you do

[midnight path]

thats what im getting at

[delicate condor]

if you want to complain about it #discord_tickets

since its very much offtopic here

[midnight path]

ok

[trim needle]

Can anyone shine a light on how to weight paint with Symmetry in Blender when the vertex groups that the rig use don't use the Blender .L .R prefixes that blender usually uses for symmetry.

[wicked dirge]

Yup totally our fault when zelik out of nowhere accuses us of having the skeleton which we in fact do not have. Jesus fukin christ this place gets obnoxious

[midnight path]

delete half of it, then mirror it

then later rename the weights

[trim needle]

Makes sense thanks. Was wondering if there was another way.

[midnight path]

the reaction says it all.

[delicate condor]

dude you are not helping your cause here

[midnight path]

what cause

[delicate condor]

@wicked dirge do drop it too

[shell hedge]

Actually it's all my fault sorry guys

[delicate condor]

the cause of proving needles moderation

[midnight path]

ok so were on the same page here

[delicate condor]

probably not. you keep at it

[midnight path]

🤦

[delicate condor]

you made the ticket. youll get response on it from the other moderators when they see it

stop instigating more stuff

stick to the model making questions/answers

[wicked jasper]

Does anyone in here have a useful blender add-on, tool, script or w/e for creating colliders for buildings? I´ve been doing them manually for every model and i am wondering if there is a more comfortable way of doing it

[delicate condor]

as far as ive seen there are no reliable good collision creators

[stray bridge]

there definitely is but I forgot about the name and im not home rn @knotty rapids wie hieß das nochmal

[knotty rapids]

collider tools

[stray bridge]

kuss

[delicate condor]

thats pretty cool. though it qould still expect the building to be split into components

it could take away the manual work of processing each part

[wicked jasper]

Thank you

[flint ivy]

I had trouble with this too, I thought there'd be a straightforward mirror paint provided the vertex group prefixes were right but sadly not to my knowledge. I believe the only way is as Gator said. I think someone made a script tooly thing too but no idea how it worked.

[trim needle]

You know what I'm sitting here saying to myself why can't it follow Blenders standards lol. Seems like such an oversight it makes it so you need to do double the work essentially.

[delicate condor]

I recall there is a file or setting where you can add more of those prefix/suffix/tag pairs 🤔

[trim needle]

I'd be curious as to how you'd mirror those.

Like on what word. Maybe as simple as Left and Right?

[delicate condor]

yesh

[trim needle]

I'll have to search that up as tbh with all my hours in blender I didn't think you could make custom mirror keywords

[delicate condor]

at least mine mirrors left and right on its own

oh but you need both selections in the vertex groups

like fi you make left side

you need vertexgrop for right side

and it will be used for the mirror

left and right might be supported natively even

[trim needle]

Yeah I have those but doesn't seem to work correctly. And my geometry is symetrical so mirror should apply ok.

[delicate condor]

do you have the vertex groups on?

[trim needle]

Yeah

[delicate condor]

do you have armature modifier too?

[trim needle]

I do and mirrior is above

[delicate condor]

that needs to be below the mirror modifier for it to work

👍

then maybe Ive added the left and right in there at some point

its been a while. I'll see if I can find anything

[trim needle]

Thanks for the comments on this I'll go check if I can add those

[midnight path]

anybody here into like post modern sci-fi type of modelling?

[sly bridge]

why?

[midnight path]

looking for some tips on a theme

[sly bridge]

ahm, not sure if this is the best place since this is more or less directed towards modelling for reforger specifically. but if you have questions related to modelling / setting up models feel free to ask these directly

[midnight path]

is there a limit to how complex a scene can be? like poly count within render distance

say i have a underground area that i want to be very detailed, can i use occluders all around it to save on processing but also have that specific area be way higher detailed than anything else

kind of an obscure question

trying to achieve a balance of: looks good but is still playable, using sci fi style assets

like how detailed could\should i go?

im not trying to do it and hit some limitation and then have to scrap the idea so im asking first

[shell hedge]

#enfusion_model message 16 mil faces 40 fps on rtx 3080

So probably aim for less than half of this

[sly bridge]

very generic, but the lower the count the better. Also in relation to drawcalls, instacing and using the least amount of textures the better

[sly bridge]

yes

[midnight path]

awesome

[shell hedge]

Just pull up mesh object stats in diag menu over montignac and there's your target

[midnight path]

thats not a bad point

[sly bridge]

use a modular approach for both meshes and textures

[midnight path]

what about xbox xD

[shell hedge]

More smaller textures is better than less but larger textures

[midnight path]

this is good info

[sly bridge]

for xbox, yes

[shell hedge]

Le xbox something meme

[sly bridge]

for pc, not really.

[shell hedge]

PC has fixed memory budgets in this game too, and they are low

[midnight path]

so the question is an xbox equal to or less than a 3080

[shell hedge]

Xbox is less of a problem because it loads MIP1 instead of MIP0, so you win by default

[sly bridge]

i noticed

if you have some texture atlases / sets that you use/reused on multiple modular assets that also gets instances = better performance

draw calls is not just polycount. Drawing tris is less expensive than drawing textures / pp effects these days

[shell hedge]

It's quite hard to run out of memory with textures in this game when you care even a little bit. Optimize when there is a problem.

[sly bridge]

also, proper lods

[midnight path]

since simplygon got shut off and now u have to pay 35k to use it, LOD's are harder to come by

[shell hedge]

I always found them easy to make though sometimes time consuming

[midnight path]

yeah for sure depending on the model

but i mostly do cars and its a pita

i dove into this 2 years ago with the only modding experience being ksp and gta 4, ive had to wrap my head around so many different skills involved in modding that i am missing probably important peices of each skill

like uv's and dimms and udimm

i only know what uv's are

[shell hedge]

Udims are like a superpower once you figure it out

[sly bridge]

there is instalod, there are also several plugins (for blender as well) that do lods

[midnight path]

ill look into instalod

[midnight path]

got any good videos

[shell hedge]

Not really, I use cinema 4d and I assume you use blender? C4D has polygon reduction features good enough for me to not care about anything else

[midnight path]

i do use blender

[shell hedge]

For udims I just offset uv tiles and export all meshes with one material and it loads into painter fine

I have zero clue about blender

[midnight path]

oh holy shit

yeah no i can do that with blender

[sly bridge]

https://polycount.com/discussion/216845/udim-vs-uv-sets

[midnight path]

thank you 😄

[nocturne quartz]

but the devs dont use udim

[sand pagoda]

depends on usage. If you have a gun with 10 various detachable parts, yep. otherwise, doubtful

[nocturne quartz]

yeah all the weapons in the game have been made more modular

[sly bridge]

you can use udims yet export these as uv sets. In any case, most modern texturing software can make use of both

[shell hedge]

Since the context was optimization, when the memory budget comes into play, you will have more success loading several smaller textures into memory than one texture that is large is my guess, when you get close to those limits

Smaller textures are easier to unload and load as you have to keep track what you can unload when it is not in use vs what stays in memory

I think when the limits are close to being hit it will use higher mip levels too which is why things look like ps1 graphics texture-wise when it happens (or its because they were loaded beforehand and its waiting to load higher res)

[shell hedge]

I needed to go from 1 to 1000 separate draw calls to get a noticeable fps drop

going from 2000 to 2050 is probably whatever

[calm isle]

I opened blender and added a slot for the underbarrel and now using the custom animations I made does this

I made sure all my export settings are right and I have all the meshes set to 0, 0, 0

it was all right the first time, it seems like it's an animation problem, but they show up fine in blender and the animation player

Update: Re-exporting then re-importing the animations fixed it

[tidal latch]

it seems that when skeleton is changed, animations cached in memory are somewhat struggling with it. I never could find reliable repro for it so it happens from time to time - restarting workbench is enough in most cases

[calm isle]

Good to know, thank you!

[leaden chasm]

Do i understand correctly, that "primitive" colliders (capsule, cylinder, sphere and box) in the engine always have same amount of faces even if in the source file they're like 3 trillion tris? And that's why workbench does not display their faces count, while it does for tri and convex?

[tidal latch]

correct - engine is just taking some data from such collider (size, position, rotation, etc) and just use this information to calculate collision

[tidal latch]

(this is also the reason why its sort of important to have scale applied to such primitive objects)

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki?title=Arma_Reforger:FBX_Import#Collider_shape I don't remember how rotation was working though so you can experiment in game if you are curious

[uneven vessel]

Currently putting together a vehicle skeleton and getting a bit twisted up. Is there any documentation or guidance on how bones in skeletons should be set up when going from blender to Enfusion? I always get a bit confused about head/tail positions and how that relates to the single point bones and orientation when imported

[tidal latch]

try to look at vanilla bones. If you are using proc anims then only wheels & suspension might be the only thing where you have to consider rotation of the bone. In other cases, you will be rotating bone on your own so it doesn't matter how it is rotated

[uneven vessel]

Yeah, these are examples of where I got a bit muddled up - when I look at the vanilla bones on say the BTR, how do I know the orientation of single point bones that I can then translate in to Blender? My first attempt had the suspension moving the wheels back and forth instead of up and down, and it just took some muddling to eventually figure out I had to orient my suspension bones facing Y+ in Blender to get them to move properly in game. (or perhaps that's not totally true and I don't even understand the change I made)

[tidal latch]

gizmo is showing you the orientation of the bone

beside that, you can see those 3 small lines with red, blue & green color - they are also telling you what is orientation of given bone

[uneven vessel]

Ok grand, cheers. And as far as Blender to enfusion goes, bone position is defined by the Blender bone 'head' position, and its orientation based on 'tail'? (with the radius/length of a bone not defining anything)

[surreal oracle]

mechs is a different thing all together hence why i kinda stopped with the mech idea ps bohemia pls make making mechs in enfusion easier ly ty and add sheep

arma 4.2 sheep update

[surreal oracle]

ahhh bohemia when pls

my models r dusty n takin up space

[hexed sandal]

Maybe soon... v1.2.1?

[steel hare]

I have a question regarding your workflows fellow modellers! Do you create the model first in all its detailed glory and thereafter create the colliders or do you create the basic shapes first, copy those objects as colliders and move on with detailling later?
The question I am askin is that it is really tedious to create the collider stuff.

[sly bridge]

always hp first for baking process, then game mesh - lp, then colliders

[crisp shale]

not really that hard, EBT has automatic collider setups

[steel hare]

what do you mean with hp exactly if I may ask? It might seem obvious by the others in this channel but for me I have no clue what it means 😄

[crisp shale]

high poly

versus low poly

[steel hare]

aaaah, thanks a lot!

[crisp shale]

high poly you use for ID maps and baking textures and allat

[steel hare]

Because I was going for modelling high poly model first and then remodel low poly but only for the colliders

[sly bridge]

high poly model is not the game mesh. It is used exclusively for baking down textures for the low poly = game mesh

[crisp shale]

yeah high poly shouldnt actually BE a different model i dont think

[sly bridge]

?

[crisp shale]

you just ID map and do textures on it and import your LP in game

[sly bridge]

do textures on what? the high poly?

[calm rune]

Some people texture the high poly and then bake the albedo map onto the low but that is such a strange and not common workflow. You bake all the details from the hp onto the lp to get your normal, AO, curvature, etc maps. Then you apply those maps to your lp model then texture the lp model using the info those maps provide.

[sly bridge]

the only times i baked down albedo from HP was when the HP was a photogrametry scan mesh containing color data as well

[thin zealot]

Hey folks, just a general question - For Arma Reforger, things like the Huey, and other detailed vehicles we have in Reforger, what are average poly counts and vertices looking like? What's a good window to shoot for when optimizing?

[shell hedge]

open it in workbench and check

[rocky sedge]

Is there any documentation or info on how to do vest variants? Im trying to set up different vests setups by using the base alice vest and changing the model and locations in the Slots in baseLoadoutClothComponent but they do no stay and reset back to original location

[wicked jasper]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:Character_Gear_Creation

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:Character_Gear_Creation/Vest/Prefab_Configuration#Creating_variant

[spiral hedge]

If i update my models to the new skeleton, do i also need to redo the weights?

[wicked dirge]

I think someone said that if you were rigging something to some of the facebones then yeah, e.g. chinstraps

[spiral hedge]

Ty

[spiral hedge]

if i import the new skeleton, is there a way to set the Pose from the old one?

[tidal latch]

Pose? There is no point in updating animation rig

It still works but there are no facial controls obviously

[azure elm]

Quick question. Is there any way to move the clothing on the character? Or does it take the rig from the model? 😮 for example move backpack to front

[lunar mulch]

What rig should I use?
Please!

With Character_Template.fbx I have 1+241 bones, and my hat doesn't fit on my head.

[lunar mulch]

The solution:
https://community.bistudio.com/wikidata/images/8/82/armareforger-new-weapon-export-blender2.png

[arctic cedar]

whenever I import my model, I'm missing bones. Like it's 156 instead of 163..

what is the correct skeleton to be using? Or have I messed up the import / skinning?

[shell hedge]

grab it from samples repo

[sly bridge]

https://github.com/BohemiaInteractive/Arma-Reforger-Samples/tree/main/SampleMod_NewCharacter/Assets/Characters

[arctic cedar]

Thought I was using that one 🤔 will check again tomorrow

[wicked dirge]

total bones 230 should be

including the IK targets and EntityPosition

armature itself is 224 bones and the other 6 are those memory points

[arctic cedar]

Thanks Soul

[tidal latch]

Are you trying to make model for stable or experimental?

[arctic cedar]

Stable

[tidal latch]

I think you might be missing empty objects in export

[tacit eagle]

Missing bones: Why does this usually happen?

[tidal latch]

Bone system is case sensitive - try to correct vertex groups

[faint scarab]

Some tips or tutorial to make gloves rigging?

[delicate condor]

copy weights from sample models fingers -> tweak where necessary

[faint scarab]

it is obviously necessary to modify since they have shrunken fingers! The only model with semi-closed fingers I've ever seen, usually the hands are open.

[sly bridge]

grab the character rig and mesh from #reforger_samples create a new finger pose that is suitable for rigging instead of the default claw pose, create or adjust your new mesh for it, transfer weights and manually adjust, profit

[arctic cedar]

used the correct skeleton, model now has 230 bones after importing but still won't animate 🥲

[tidal latch]

For stable that is not correct model

230 is for experimental

[arctic cedar]

that will be why then haha, the old one kicking about anywhere?

[hexed sandal]

Try changing these Import Settings:

I'm struggling with importing and exporting the Head_Template_NewSkeleton.fbx in Blender.
The model works correctly directly when using it in Reforger, but if I import it and then export it nothing comes out right... Any suggestion or tutorial?

[tidal latch]

On github it is

Look for one without "new skeleton" in name

[hexed sandal]

but I need new skeleton for the heads in version 1.2.1

[arctic cedar]

found the right one, now animates 🥳 just some of the weights need fixing 😂

[tidal latch]

It's there already

[stiff reef]

I've noticed that with the launch of FAB, all the Megascans assets are free until the end of 2024 and can be used on any engine... Is it ok to use them in a modded Arma Reforger map?

[toxic marten]

probably would have to make them arma ready since they have a lot of poly/tri

[stiff reef]

Yes, obviously they need to be injected properly, create colliders, ... But I'm not sure if it's legal to do or it can result in a ban for using external assets

The possibility to use all the Megascans for free seems too good to be true 😆

[sly bridge]

using the old skeleton right now is kind of a weird thing to do, since you’ll have to update it anyways when exp gets to stable

[sly bridge]

it is 100% allowed yes

[arctic cedar]

Yeah I know I will, just want to make sure stuffs rigged properly without waiting week or two

[fiery fossil]

Spooky

[wet moat]

Without looking the name of this tank up I will guess what model it is

Is it a Patton?

[candid cave]

got it right

[wet moat]

hell yea

[spiral hedge]

Question about "Portals": I created the inner room for my model very simply as a "box" and cut out windows and doors. I then called this box BSP_room. I then inserted a simple "plane" into all windows and doors. The normals point inwards. When importing, I selected BSP Generation and Export Opaque. But when I enter the room, the light looks wrong. The shadows are much too light and the colors are faded. Does anyone know how to set this correctly? bzw. also the GInterior Signal will not change to 1 if i enter the room. (WordSubSceneComp is on the Prefab)

[midnight path]

did you triangulate faces

[surreal ore]

Pretty sure the BSP isn't supposed to have holes in it.

[midnight path]

pretty sure youre right, and portals are a separate object

[surreal ore]

I've never put them in any of the building i've made. You seen the outcome of the last one. The light worked correctly didn't it? I honestly don't remember.

[last parcel]

you need holes in the bsp to confirm with the portal to say where the windows and Doors are.

[spiral hedge]

Red is Portals (Planes - Normal inward) Blue is the BSP - together its a closed room

Portals named "PRT_1 - PRT_9"

If i debug the Portals and volume all look good. But still lightning looks garbage and GInterior Signal is not changing, so all Environmental sound will be still played inside the room

[surreal ore]

My mistake. I was thinking about he box volume actually.

the*

Are you giving everything the required material?

[spiral hedge]

BSP is dummyvolume and Portals are MatLightPortal

[last parcel]

well there is diffrence in portal materials in how they are setup to, so for those windows you have that would be something similare to this material PRT_70x142_A_EM_64FF469467150004 and for the door i usaly go for the same as BI did with most of the buildings PRT_DOOR_GARAGE_A_EM_6700FA7CB5E67272

[spiral hedge]

Will try this

No changes 😦

is there any exmple on GitHub i can take a look?

[surreal ore]

no

[spiral hedge]

Probes and Probe Volumes <-- i think i miss this

YEP - BOXVOL_01 fixed it 😄

Last problem is the GInterior Signal which is not changing while entering the room

[last parcel]

did you setup the prefab correct ?

[last parcel]

that is not setup correctly look at vanilla buildings.

[spiral hedge]

Oh, i see... DestructibleBuildingEntity. I think this is just needed if we add a Destruction to it. But good to know. Thanks

[nova granite]

Is there an upper limit to Polly count/amount of materials a enfusion .xob model can handle?

Have a 7 story hospital that is hitting 400k polys and 38 materials in blender and while I’m obviously gonna make LODs for her, I’d like to know if this engine can efficiently handle that amount of polygons/materials in one 3D asset

[delicate condor]

Do you use multimaterial on it?

38 is very excessive amount

building might need 2 multimaterials

max 3

[nocturne quartz]

no one makes thier own stuff they just grab it off the web so hence why the unoptimized models

[last parcel]

the factory building has 15 Multimaterials. but 38 might be a tad to much

[nova granite]

Haven’t even gotten there yet, asset is still in blender, just wanted to check best practices/limits of the engine

[nova granite]

Of course, that’s what has always been done by people who have a life, especially since modeling/texturing your own buildings, interiors, and props is an insane time sink

I’ll easily put In 1/8 of the time it would take to build a building from scratch just to optimize an already completed structure with associated props, interiors, and materials

[delicate condor]

I kinda doubt that honestly. it feels like you do "less". but you really spend more time fixing it to be game ready than making one game ready from 0

since you dont have multimaterial setup for it and non game assets usualy dont bother with such, thats gonna be hell of a process to set up right now

its also smart not to piss on people with different life who know what they do because theyve spent the time learning the answers and how tos thinking "having a life" is somehow more important or better.

[shell hedge]

this is false 90% of the time in my experience with models I purchase, the other 10% of the time is when I buy a model that turns out to be much worse than I expected and then I just use a different one (or just give up and do something else if there isn't one)

[calm isle]

I have a question that's more curiosity than anything - if we don't update the skeletons on our player clothing before the update hits will the clothing break the game or will it just not have the updated facial animations?

[calm isle]

Along with that - what happens if we update the skeleton before the update is live?

[nocturne quartz]

it wouldn't work since the game crys about having too many bones

[calm isle]

I see, sounds like I'm gonna just wait till the update drops

[last hill]

If you drop your mod as experimental, use the new skeleton, if you drop it for current stable, use old skeleton.

You can also use a copy of your current mod for stable, with fixed skeleton for experimental which can then be transferred to stable when the new skeleton is in live stable build.

[calm isle]

Awesome, thanks!

[steel hare]

scroll up to around 23rd of October, I was asking a similar question. I am currently modeling something bigger (learning the ropes of Blender) and have doubts if my static object will be not too performance hungry. I will try to work with occluders and stuff but let's see how it will turn out.

[steel hare]

On BI's environmental metrics page (https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:Environment_Metrics) it is stated that stairs should only be straight, U-shaped or L-shaped.
Does this mean one cannot create staircase which follows along a curve?
Up towards a fuel tank which has a round outer shape?

[shell hedge]

you can but the AI might struggle navigating it

[sly bridge]

he is talking about multimats. You wont find assets with multi on any store, be it vehicles or structures.
Making assets vs buying assets is about interests. Some prefer to make stuff and have full control, some prefer to skip that step and buy an existing asset. But if you buy something off a shelf it doesn’t mean you don’t need to know at the very least the basics of modeling and texturing, and a lot of new people don’t and they think something is plug and play (and it is not in 99% of the cases)

[shell hedge]

I mean assuming it's correctly uv unwrapped it's still less time for me to texture it for multi material or not

the total time spent is always less regardless, personal preference aside

you are spot on with new folks, it's an unfortunately common misconception that you can just buy a model and it works, but if folks dont do their research it's kind of their skill issue to be fair

[sly bridge]

tbh unwrapping a building is the least time consuming thing. You would still need to create the first uv set (and move an existing unwrapped one to a secondary uv set) and retexture everything using seamless textures maps.

[shell hedge]

dont even need to bother with multiple uv sets

[sly bridge]

that is false. don’t generalize.

[sly bridge]

for multimats? what do you mean?

[shell hedge]

they are not a requirement

you can make something look good without them

[sly bridge]

not if you wanna have a better texel density for larger objects

[shell hedge]

I mean you dont need multiple uv sets for each mesh

for something like a building with multimaterial texel density is driven by the scale of your layers so whatever

since the whole thing is made out of repeating textures that are scaled down/tiled more

all im saying is uv set 2 is optional

[sly bridge]

sure, not for every mesh. but for larger ones

[sly bridge]

i am more than aware how multimats work :))

[sly bridge]

it isn't optional for everything, nope

[shell hedge]

one xob can have multiple meshes, each of those meshes can have its own multi material

thats the way I'm looking at it anyway

you are welcome to use two uv sets if you want to, but the material works with just one uv set just fine

[sly bridge]

well are. a lot of the content i made had 2-3 multimats. Some parts of the meshes can also use different shaders altogether. What i am saying is that depending on texel density (size of the building). I am saying that the masks can be both tiled or can be driven from a specific uv set

[shell hedge]

yes and? all I said is two uv sets are not required to use multi material

you're right but your point is different from mine

[sly bridge]

it is case by case scenario, yes. It is not a requirment for using multimaps, it can be a requirment for certain type of assets though

[shell hedge]

what you are saying is that it is beneficial and useful, what I'm saying is the material works with one uv set regardless of type of asset, there is no condition in the material editor that throws an error when you have only one uv set and the asset is a house

I would love to texture a house at some point, like an american one, one of the ones that use cardboard for walls

they look kinda cool

[sly bridge]

considering the start of this discussion was multimats for structures (400k - 7 story hospital model) i guess i remained locked into that topic

[jagged smelt]

I'm trying to import a gun mesh from into Enfusion, but can't recognize the empty and bones I made in blender. Do I have to parent the mesh with the armature?

[stray bridge]

you ticked the „export skinning“ box in the import settings?

[wicked jasper]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:Weapon_Creation/Asset_Preparation#Skeleton_&_Hierarchy

[jagged smelt]

yup

[jagged smelt]

Yo thanks, I forgot about the reimport button LOL!

Thanks!

Having only UTM is enough for a gun? Or do I have to make UCX too?

[stray bridge]

read the wiki luca sent in, its a bit further up

[candid cave]

does Reimporting FBX file from blender to enfusion take a long time ?

its stuck at 58%

[wicked dirge]

i think this only happens if you have unreasonably high polycounts

if that's the case the model is probably unsuitable for AR

[shell hedge]

rookie numbers

[candid cave]

so what is the maximum polys numbers for arma

[tidal latch]

I guess it could be also some very wrong face

[candid cave]

yeah maybe

[tidal latch]

there were few cases like that in past but searching on discord is nightmare

I don't remember what was the problem back then

[candid cave]

exactly

[tidal latch]

I've only found one message from past where freeze was caused by object called "switch1", which was recognized by parser as "switch" special keyword. This problem should be solved though

[candid cave]

The problem is solved by deleting the Colliders i guess its not supposed to be highly detailed 🙂

[shell hedge]

tries naming meshes after every single enforce script keyword

[last parcel]

Colliders should as simple but detailed as possible.

[uncut dirge]

If I have two sets of body armor with different fits to them, can be any body armor.

And I have one set of pouches, but I want them to be compatible with both sets of armor.

Can this engine allow one set to warp to the compatible armor? Or do I now need to make two rifleman sets of the same pouches to fit both vests.

[leaden chasm]

I once imported tree model with ~800k faces, importing took about 30 mins, but finished successfully.

[calm isle]

Question - is it possible to attach a model to a magazine prefab inside enfusion tools? Like if I want to put a tape model around a vanilla magazine would I be able to add a dummy model like you can with weapons?

[topaz willow]

I would think this would be possible, someone can correct me if I'm wrong

I can test rq

[stray bridge]

via script or in general? just use slot manager, no?

or just replace mesh

[calm isle]

That's what I'm asking - if it's possible via slot manager

[stray bridge]

yup you can add eg tape via slot manager

did a camo wrap for fun like 1 or 2 years ago, this also worked fine

[candid cave]

Interesting 🧐

[calm isle]

Awesome, thanks for the info everyone

[lethal frigate]

Can we use stuff from fab? With standard licence

[stray bridge]

look into the license if it allows it or not

https://www.fab.com/eula

i think thats it

[delicate condor]

may be different case by case. each asset may have different license

for some, yes they can be used, for some not

[inland sentinel]

Has anyone resolved created items appearing in 1PP? I would like to occlude the worn items in first person

[calm isle]

add this to the material

check this too

[surreal ore]

That's not all

Allow User Alpha Bias

Or not apparently lol

[torn magnet]

Hello everyone, does anyone know how to port models into blender?

I just open the blender and that's it

Maybe it's not the right way, or it's not done that way?

[last hill]

You can't. Only fbx files can be opened in Blender from the workbench, you can't open models in Blender from Vanilla or not your own 3d model.

[torn magnet]

So, in principle, I cannot interact with the 3D models of the game in any way? And I can’t get them in any way?

[tidal latch]

You can combine vanilla models in Workbench

you cannot edit their 3d mesh though

[torn magnet]

I would just like to port the game's interior models to another game

I really don't know if this is prohibited

[tidal latch]

that is strictly prohibited

[torn magnet]

😔

[last hill]

You literally have to accept the terms when you start using anything for the game.

Porting something from another game onto Enfusion is also not allowed without permissions but definitely not permitted from this game to another. That would be theft.

[sly bridge]

lol what?

[torn magnet]

what?

[sly bridge]

which particular other games allows you to use their models in another game/engine? from what i know of, none

[torn magnet]

garrys mod

[feral jolt]

well, just don't - it is 3D model theft, as already explained 🙂
although eventually "cool", it is strictly illegal (even if others already did so - especially Garry's Mod)

[sly bridge]

that’s not really a game though, glad facepunch got rekt

[torn magnet]

Facepunch got permission? for what?

[feral jolt]

?
it did not, and PuFu did not say that

[torn magnet]

ok, bad translation, sorry

[stray bridge]

[woven finch]

anyone in here willing to help me out im new to blender and dont really know how to use and would appreciate if i could get help DM me if you can

[calm rune]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0J27sf9N1Y

[covert dune]

classic

[last parcel]

there is also chamferzones Bullet tutorial its quite good too it goes through the basics of blender.

[fiery fossil]

Yes the best start to blender ever

[fiery fossil]

Na but a scrumptious donut tutorial. Who doesn’t want that

[delicate condor]

It's not really something easily done in simple DMs.

Google is your friend here and you can find lot of beginner tutorials with simple searches.

Watch and make things following their instructions, repeat, try to apply what you have learned into making something specific and so on.

It likely will take some time to learn so be patient, accept that it takes a lot of repetition to get hang of and failure is sometimes inevitable. Then you just start again and try different things.

[sly bridge]

nooooo

[spiral hedge]

Good Morning. Since 1.2.1.127 i notice that my IK of the weapons left hand is off or will not be set correctly. Do i need to make a Rig_Update? (Its normal M4 base)

[rough lynx]

@spiral hedge Does reload anim etc. still work? There were some anim graph changes in 1.2.1 that needed to be applied on weapons - mainly reload, but some fire selector, bolt reciprocating etc. wasn't working. But I noticed that some weapons we have, also had messed up IK until the graph was updated

Changing "GetEventTime(\"Reload.Erc.Reload_InsertMag\", \"BlendIn\")" -> "GetEventTime(anim.Reload.Erc.Reload_InsertMag, \"BlendIn\")" in the .agf was the main one

[wicked jasper]

I can confirm this one

[spiral hedge]

Hey, its only the idle IK, all other animations work fine.

[spiral hedge]

i checked this, but all .agf files where correct

[keen jolt]

can someone help me pls to understand the top limit of polys for building?
Thanks

[midnight path]

~200k

the more polygons it is, the less of them u will be able to use in any given area

so if its something you are going to place multiple times it should be like ~40k

[keen jolt]

thanks a lot

[nova granite]

there is no hard cap in the game engine as far as i know, but you want to keep firegeo and viewgeo as low poly as possible. And make sure to use multimats for anything big.

and always try and limit dense sections of polygons, especially in any LOD above 0.

I'm pretty sure there's a server out there that uses this kitbash3d asset like 4 times in a area and its at 700k Polys and runs fine. Just use multimats and you'll be fine.

[sly bridge]

for the second time in regards to the very same building
a. it is NOT 100% optimized for video games, but it isn't horrific either.
b. the 700K polygons could easilly be lowered quite a bit, and also all window frames etc could be a single or a couple of 3d meshes etc
c. there are a LOT of extra loops and edges where there could be a lot less.
in practive this particular set could very well end up around 300k optimized, or have 700k with proper extra polygons where needed - example -> window frames, AC units etc
the textures are also pretty bad and repetitive and would definatelly need a lot of attention and getting these as multimaps,
but then again this isn't intended for FPS games or for for any sort of hero building, but rather as a backdrop mesh/plate

[delicate condor]

Id design that as 3 objects. each building as its own.

would also allow much more varied use

or skip one of those standing ones and one standing one toppled building

still can mix them around but it dont need to be exact same every time youp place it

[leaden trench]

looks like it's made with RBD destruction in Houdini; you could import a not destroyed model to Houdini and generate many unique destroyed variants all with LODs and UVs in minimal time

[delicate condor]

that assumes one knows how to use houdini.. and has the original model.

when people buy models the try to skip that part

and for game purposes you cant really have all objects unique anyway

[leaden trench]

I want to evangelize, get people to switch to Houdini; it's so useful and fun and has every feature you could ever dream of.

[sly bridge]

don't think it is houdini tbh, considering the model pack is about 6years old IRC. in any case all software packages these days do have some sort of destruction

[vast niche]

does anyone know where i can find example of building already imported to ensuion, to be able research the best guidlines of the model?
How many lods it has to have, how collision should looks like? Bc i found information about importing weapon model, but not about houses. Maybe someone know any good guide? Thanks

[leaden trench]

Unfortunately there is no sample model as there is for weapons. there is info on wiki split across some pages e.g. FBX Import page, Blender Portal tools page

you could look at some mods e.g. Wolf builing pack or just vanilla buildings in the game

[sly bridge]

open any of the existing game meshes / prefabs?

[vast niche]

my bad, i didnt know that there are mesh layers in LOD tab. Thanks you

[sly bridge]

no worries. as steve said, there is no sample available, would been useful for portals and occluders

[patent flower]

Any 3ds max users in here im struggling with adding layer presets, not sure how to do it

[tidal latch]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki?title=Arma_Reforger:FBX_Import#Setting_Layer_Preset_on_colliders_(usage_parameter)

you can also change layer presets in Workbench once it is imported

[midnight path]

.. can we get one?

[stray bridge]

[sly bridge]

from BI, no idea.
could i make a small sample, yes, i think i could at some point

[fluid dragon]

any chance that the car creation tutorial will be expanded soon ?

[meager pendant]

we have one in french that you can use in google trad but it still need a lot of tweak

https://linwainn-enfusion.gitbook.io/enfusion-fr-car

[fluid dragon]

ty i will have a look

[steel hare]

that is a really well written documentation. If it was available in english this would be awesome. The browser translation function does a poor job 😦

[meager pendant]

we are working on creating a whole wiki based on various frnech documentation that we have and let user participate in order to send it after all to bohemia to coplete the offciial wiki

[meager pendant]

i have begin to make the traduction in here: https://wiki.nabla.sh/books

you have the car creation tutorial

[tidal latch]

if you have something already you can also discuss it in #community_wiki and probably you could be granted access to BIKI, so you could do tweaks independently 😉

btw, you need account on that wiki you posted

[meager pendant]

with pleasure i was thinking it was more arma 3

fix for public acces sorry

the goal is to send the wjole books directly to you guy

[tidal latch]

not really, although it is true that most discussion happens about A3

[keen jolt]

Hi yall, are there any differences in perfomance or render quality between tris, quads and n-gons in 3d models in Enfusion?
Is it allowed to use quads and n-gons in Enfusion or not?
Whats the best practice ? To use only tris or its allowed to get some quads and n-gons in model without any serious perfomance issues? If yes , how many then?
Thanks

[shell hedge]

not really, since everything is triangles in this and most other game engines

if you give it quads it will be triangulated on import, I prefer triangulating myself before export

[keen jolt]

thanks mate

[delicate condor]

non triangulated mesh might get triangulated differently than expected and mess up uvmapping

[wicked dirge]

You should triangulate before baking textures

[steady nymph]

Anyone knows is my material and normal map is somehow not seen?

[shell hedge]

you need to pack the textures correctly

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:Textures

[tidal latch]

and name them with correct suffixes

[steady nymph]

Ok i will try it

[eternal jewel]

we have changed the textures with the correct suffixes and repacked it. They seem to not still work... However, the another question is also that we don't understand how to add the other maps other than the base color and normals because there seems to be now option to include textures such as metallic, roughness, etc.

[tidal latch]

naming it is not enough, you still need to pack it correctly https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:Textures

[eternal jewel]

thanks, problem was just we werent using the correct export preset in substance panter

[stray bridge]

#enfusion_texture message

[shrewd vapor]

My LOD0 is really messed up when I imported it anybody knows why its my first weapon mod?

[surreal ore]

#enfusion_model message

[shrewd vapor]

Its not the texture its the model

Its just LOD0 though

[surreal ore]

In the first screenshots, I can't see any of those details. So I wasn't sure what you were complaining about.

[sly bridge]

did you triangulated it before export? can you show a wire from blender and one from workbench?
besides all the obvious non conformity in terms of textures

[shrewd vapor]

Thats workbench for LOD0 and LOD1

Thats blender

[delicate condor]

multiple uvset names perhaps

and when combined they dont combine but stay separate

[shrewd vapor]

Thats what it could be I have seperated the magrelease and the safety from the frameobject but havent changed the UV mapping is that the case didnt thought that this would do something like that in the workbench honestly since it loocked fine in blender

[delicate condor]

if its split into separate objects in blender and each object dont have same name uvset, when combined on export the uvmapping wont combine

[shrewd vapor]

Im relatively new to blender so im really trying to learn the stuff

[delicate condor]

is alright to be new.

theres lot to learn

if this is a bought model, then those arent really good way to learn and shortcut forward 😅

[shrewd vapor]

Ah okay thats the case then thats why it only happens on the LOD0 since I havent done this on the other LODs yet

[delicate condor]

perhaps

just a guess though

the results you get could fit

[shrewd vapor]

Had that model laying around for a year now so I wanted to use it for something😅 never really got the time to go deep into it I know the basics but now I finally got time so I thought I start with this thing

[shrewd vapor]

Got it fixed I had my LOD6 named with LOD5 suffixes which then got imported into LOD0

[pine galleon]

Hello everyone, we are planning to do an event on our server. it calls david vs golliath.

but we running into a issue and we are atm not aware to solve the problem.

We created whole new model in blender etc and implement it into the enfusion but when we are about press play. everything is back normal size. Did we oversee something? making structure big is easy but make characters big... idk how to solve it..

We want to make the charcter only for the gm playable..

Hopefully this is the right thread,

[surreal ore]

You can't scale the character

[pine galleon]

no possible ways to do this? even when we are create new animations on the big model?

[surreal ore]

If you create an entirely new rig, model, animations, animation graph all at the scale that you want then sure.

[nocturne quartz]

speaking about new rigs has anyone made any new animals?

[surreal ore]

Not sure.

[pine galleon]

mission accepted. wish me luck or skill xd

[stray bridge]

yes, but not public

if you dont know how to rig stuff and animate it, you can buy this stuff, but make sure its not ripped content

[round drum]

so before I go completely insane, I'll ask in here

I'm facing a problem when importing my backpack model - tried following the wiki guides for helmets/vests, tried looking in here, watched some videos but no dice

I cannot get the backpack to behave 😄

when importing and reimporting with the export skinning thingy I do get the bones I assigned in bklender but when equipped it still looks like this.. what am I missing here?

(still untextured don't judge me)

[silent scroll]

To many bones, not enough bones, or armature isn't put as parent of object

[shell hedge]

nvm

this mesh has no LODs {6ECC2C52756D333A}Assets/Structures/Infrastructure/Naval/Breakwater/BreakwaterTetrapod_01_stack.xob

[midnight path]

low poly? no need?

[shell hedge]

only 14k faces

[midnight path]

eh thats low-ish but not low enough for only 1 lod imo

[shell hedge]

it not having LODs is a bug

someone probably forgot

[calm isle]

Is there a way to rotate a worn model? I want to make the vanilla PASGT goggles a wearable item to sit on a certain helmet I added, but I need to adjust their rotation a tad. The item coords changed in the GameEntity section, but the item rotation won't

[calm isle]

Another question- I want to make a gun that uses the PM animations, where would I find what vertex group names I need to use?

[fringe elbow]

Hi everyone had a quick question in blender when I do Face Orientaion on my mesh Blue is correct for Substance Paint but when I bring it to Enfusion Blue is wrong and see through and Red is the solid side of the mesh.

[tidal latch]

that looks like placeholder - not mats and no lods are usually signs of that. Why its in game data is mystery to me though

[shell hedge]

Well it's already used by mappers and a drain on frames

[tidal latch]

really? Do you know from top of your head which map is using it?

[shell hedge]

not a vanilla one I don't think

[delicate condor]

This does not sound right. You may have object scale issues

In blender

[tidal latch]

I meant non vanilla ones - authors should be informed they shouldn't use that asset since it might be removed

it is rather unlikely this asset will be completed for AR

[drowsy gulch]

My Romanian AK model with the IK and animations made by @crisp shale

[shell hedge]

good job man looks fire

[crisp shale]

domg

[leaden trench]

the breakwater at end of Runway on Tanoa uses tetrapods, but in Reforger I only seen triangle things used.

[tacit eagle]

Hi, i’m getting error when i’m trying to import collider

[topaz willow]

and the error is..?

[frail wyvern]

@tidal latch question about building destruction…. Is it possible to add damage to the destruction manger so when the building changes to a damaged one or destroyed one players/ai will get hurt/die??

[leaden chasm]

i suspect it's better to wait until final destruction system will be introduced before attempting anything serious with buildings

[frail wyvern]

I’ve already made a janky version lol couldn’t wait hahaha

[stray bridge]

maybe you can script smth urself, when the state of the prefab changes = in a radius radius player dmg / killed. Not 100% if that’s possible as im just on my phone but seems possible

[frail wyvern]

That’s a good idea unfortunately I have no skills with scripting I’ll give it a try but I probably end up breaking it hahaha

[inland sentinel]

Never too late to learn

[turbid moss]

If i add occluders to big cliff/stones, entity class need to be scr_destructibleEntity to get it working? And just damage off.

[mint hollow]

No, just use Occluder component, doesn't need to be a specific entity type anymore

[shell hedge]

occluders dont update when you move them around, instead new ones are created until you reload the world

[vast niche]

I m so sorry bothering u, but seems like you got an hotel from A2 in your test map. Where did u get it? Thanks
Did u make it by yourself from the scratch?

[frail wyvern]

From bi they have a whole bunch of licensed assets

[surreal ore]

They're not free assets. They're licensed assets. There's a difference.

[frail wyvern]

True

[fluid fern]

Hi, tell me, when you get an error when importing a fbx (face number 654 is degenerated), can't you find this face on blender?

[sly bridge]

A degenerate face is a face with two vertex indices that are identical, and therefore no geometric area, and no normal and no UV space
all modern 3d software should have tools to fix / remove such meshes

[tacit eagle]

Hi guys can i delete these after i import my 3d model?

[tidal latch]

no

[tacit eagle]

Is this working im trying to use arma reforger model?

[fluid fern]

For a question of optimization, is an object in LOD0 with 255k faces legitimate for the engine?

[tidal latch]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:Enfusion_Blender_Tools
Prefab (.et file) - importing models located in prefabs (including prefabs located in hierarchy). It is only working on prefabs where source FBX are available. Function is meant mainly for structures and baking MLODs

[frail wyvern]

Is there a way to add a hit zone with LODS?

[sly bridge]

depends on the size and use of that object

generally i would say no, unless it is some aircraft carrier

[last parcel]

highest polycount for a building in Reforger is at 119k faces, so a 255k its a tad much, but if its a one off object it might work.

[tacit eagle]

So there is no way to use reforger assets and tweak them in blender?

[tidal latch]

no, there is no such way

[fluid fern]

It's only one persistent item, after that I'll halve the mods so it should do, thanks for the info 😄

[tidal latch]

also one thing to consider - if its a large object then perhaps it is worth to split it into some subsections

this way you won't have one large object in LOD0 but perhaps 3 objects - one next to you in LOD0, next one in LOD1 and the furthest away from you in LOD2 already

[fluid fern]

Ah yes I understand, a bit like the bridges, in vanilla they are separated into several sections, I understand.

[simple void]

Anyone got a face/tri count for a vehicle I should be aiming for? Almost finished modelling but cant seem to find a general ball park figure?

[shell hedge]

open one in the game and check

in workbench I mean not game

[simple void]

Oh true, i didnt even think of that

Cheers man

seems i have plenty at my disposable

[shell hedge]

remember to make LODs otherwise the LOD police will come

[eager hill]

What is that object? Can you show the model?

[steel hare]

regarding size or dimensions rather. Are there any guidelines how wide things like ladders need to be? The Environment Metrics page only states in which distance to each other the stuff has to be. But how far should the siderails be apart etc?

[fluid fern]

Surprise 😄

[meager pendant]

does it mean it less expensive (in term of ressoruce) to do some modular prefab and buil the building in the tool ?

[tacit eagle]

Hi guys, so im trying to make a new variants of brick walls, and make my own custom wall generator, the question is, how can i find the correct wall size like the hight? cuz there is no way to edit reforgers object in blender

[sly bridge]

there is a measure tool in the workbench

[fluid fern]

Here's another question, I've got railway bridges but they're not visible on the topo map, although I did put in the right bridgenetwork component... but I've just noticed one thing, there's an emat pbr road, no doubt that's missing?

[tidal latch]

it depends - it's not 0 & 1 situation

[stray ingot]

Need Help ?

[wicked jasper]

Export it into your project directory instead of your Desktop

Or now manually import the fbx into your project

[stray ingot]

I've modded a lot in Arma 3 but now I want to tinker with something here again. Is there somewhere that's good for the structure that you have to take into account etc?

[wicked jasper]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Category:Arma_Reforger/Modding/Tutorials/Assets

[stray ingot]

What do I have to consider in Blender or how do I just build a wall first? Don't check that yet, I used to work with Autocad and ObjektBuilder

[wicked jasper]

Youtube is your best friend 😄

[stray ingot]

I didn't find anything useful xD

Do you know any good videos on YouTube?

[stray ingot]

why can I walk through it?

[last parcel]

becuse the prefab needs an Rigidbody from enfusion

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:Prop_Creation

[quaint nacelle]

Hello, my Leclerc tank is having problems that remind me a lot of Arma 3 and I don't understand how it's possible or where it comes from, I was told that the Abrams did the same thing, do you have a idea where this could come from?

[kindred grove]

im confused, do i need to set coliders in blender or in the workbench?

[quaint nacelle]

In blender

[kindred grove]

when i try the colliders setup, it tells me i need an valid colider

[stray bridge]

in that case you didnt set up the collider correctly, look in the console when you import the model. It will tell you whats wrong

[kindred grove]

im trying to "create" a simple house, so i just build something fast in blender

and i cant select my plane/cube as a colider?

[stray bridge]

please read the wiki, basics like this are all documented.

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:FBX_Import

if you are having problems in blender, selecting an object, youtube or google is you best friend

[kindred grove]

is there any tutorial for that portal/bsp stuff? i cant figure it out and its driving me insane

[stray bridge]

yes also in the wiki but a bit more complicated

[hot viper]

Is there a way to get the base size of an asset in game? Say I want to make an asset for a vehicle, how do I know the dimensions?

[spiral hedge]

Hi guys, I've been trying to implement a new character body since yesterday. I made it exactly like the original. New skeleton with 230 bones, 100 of which have weight. 32 meshes with the same names, 17 colliders also with the same names. I can import the body and all the bones work. But as soon as I use it in a prefab in the IdentComp, workbench crashes.

[tidal latch]

do you have colliders?

[spiral hedge]

Yep, 17... i used "Character_Weights_Template_NewSkeleton.blend" as reference

[tidal latch]

and import settings same as on basebody?

[spiral hedge]

I cannot see the original import settings, but all looks good. If i compare the XOBs

[tidal latch]

https://github.com/BohemiaInteractive/Arma-Reforger-Samples/blob/main/SampleMod_NewCharacter/Assets/Characters/SampleCharacter/Character_Template_NewSkeleton.xob.meta

[spiral hedge]

Meta is correct, but still crashing

[spiral hedge]

Also, if i copy the complete Meta from Github, it will not work 😦

[tidal latch]

not sure what is going on then

submit crash report for sure

if you want, you could also send me the files and I could quickly check if internal tools split something more useful during the crash

[spiral hedge]

I send you files on PM.

[tidal latch]

kind of weird but it doesn't happen on character that inherits from ussr rifleman

[spiral hedge]

Confirmed. USSR Rifleman working.

[spiral hedge]

Its only work if you "inherits" - if you Duplicate or Override it crash

[spiral hedge]

The Problem is Animation based, because if you disable CharacterAnimationComp, you can change the body. But if you enable it with the new body it crash again.

[surreal ore]

In experimental?

Pretty sure you should be using the old skeleton if not.

[faint wyvern]

hi guys can anyone help me out with a model im creating it keeps crashing the game i everytime i try spawn it in game master or any other mode

i conveted all the et's to invisable shadows an i put a model over it

[spiral hedge]

Problem Solved. If you override or Duplicate, you only need to set the Body in CharacterIdentity and not in the MeshObject. So MeshObject is still the original Body. Then no more Crashes.

[mellow coyote]

Hi guys. Today i work with models and finaly want add new prop in tools and find all faces look invard. But in blender and substance everything looks fine. Then i swap all model faces invard in blender and its fixed it but its not ok. Any clue how fix this?

[nova granite]

enable face orientation in blender, will show what faces are flipped the wrong way

then go into edit mode and select all, then SHIFT+N to recalculate normals

[mellow coyote]

U see 1 sceenshot☝️ i make proper normal face orientation model and in substance its work fine and only when i import same model in tools this happens. I make a lot models already and this 1st time happens to me.

[rocky sedge]

Try going into the material and changing the cull setting. Fixed it for me before

[mellow coyote]

Its fixed but why this happens at all?

[rocky sedge]

[mellow coyote]

[steel totem]

Hi, question related to xob (And possible duplication).

In my case, I found a specific weapon I would like to use from a mod pack. I don't want to download the entire modpack and don't wish to claim it as mine either.
The goal would be to duplicate that weapon (Winch includes assets) and republish it, and of course credit and point towards the bigger mod pack.
I want to make sure this doesn't go against ARMA's terms of usage. And if it doesn't break any rules in general.

[fiery fossil]

extrusion and Booleans(less so the Booleans) have a tendency to mess up the normals but as long as you do the "SHIFT+N" trick you should be fine.

[mellow coyote]

yep i think its booleans but i recalculate normals and this happens

[fiery fossil]

did you have the entire mesh selected>? when you recalculated the normals?

[mellow coyote]

yep but its seems something mess up

[fiery fossil]

aa ok but its fix now yea?

[mellow coyote]

yep

[fiery fossil]

awesome

[stray bridge]

you cant just duplicate xobs which is imo good

if you dont know if you are allowed to use smth or republish it, dont.
Read the license

[stray bridge]

you also cannot export xobs or edit them in any way. If you want eg a weapon from a mod because its nice. You either have to ask the author or mod it urself

[steel totem]

Of course, but as long as I have his agreement it's all good then ?

That's what I am concerned about.

(According to the License it is)

[stray bridge]

he still needs to send you the fbx or blend file or whatever. You cant duplicate xobs

You can duplicate prefabs, but not meshes

[topaz willow]

Then if they send the FBX, you have to keep in mind the license set by the creator of the model

Typically, FBX meshes can’t just be “shared”

[sly bridge]

or in other words. if that mesh is purchased (licensed to use) and not self made the one that is licensed to cannot send the files to you anyways

[sly bridge]

you cannot do that for obvious reasons

[sand pagoda]

Apply scale

[mellow coyote]

ty its properly fix issue

[steel totem]

So just to confirm one last Time. If the person owns the FbX, and made it, and is willing to share it I am good to go.
If he doesn't own it, but allows me to copy his prefab, I could buy the model and use it.
As long as I make sure everyone is credited and that all the ressources were allowed for me to be used.

[sly bridge]

1. If the mesh is self made (and exported as an fbx) then that person that made it can share his ip rights with you, yes
2. for meshes purchased - in 99.9% of the cases when one purchases a model, it comes with an individual license. If you both have the proof of purchase and license for the same exact model, they yes, you can use his files if he allows it.

[steel totem]

Awesome thank you so much !

[tacit eagle]

How can I resolve this issue? Where should I start looking for solutions?

[topaz willow]

I'm confused, what's the issue? Video stays on one frame

[stray bridge]

try it on everon / arland

[tacit eagle]

Same issue

[fierce pawn]

Vehicle needs some vehicle simple colliders otherwise when the suspension reaches its limit it falls through

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:FBX_Import

[tacit eagle]

Thanks. It worked.

How can I fix the wheel problem? The wheels are not on the ground. I used a "Hamvee" as the base prefab. In Blender, it looks okay. Is this an animation issue?

[tacit eagle]

Also, Does anyone know why the collider for the tire is different in this case from the blender?

[last parcel]

have you applied rotation and stuff in blender ?

[tacit eagle]

control+A and stuff yes

[last parcel]

it could be that its an UCL, looking at the tires from vanilla they use a simple Box for vehicleComplex, and also a lot less polygons for their FG like 99.8 % less then you have currently

[stray bridge]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:Car_Creation/Asset_Preparation

maybe it helps you, maybe not

[fierce pawn]

I would guess it’s a problem with the proc animation of the suspension/ wheels

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:Diag_Menu

If you use this and go to vehicles and turn on vehicle debug and show wheels you can see the simulated wheel position and see if that matches with the tires

[keen jolt]

What would be a good average texel density and texture quality to aim for nowadays for building asset?
Thanks

[sly bridge]

have a look over existing buildings in reforger and pbr multi

[merry rivet]

Yeah... isn't that the typical black earth from the Kursk region? It gets very boggy during the rasputitsa.

[silent scroll]

Anyone able to call to help me with some weight painting smoothing, trying to fix the left leg bend and clean it up

I cant seem to figure out which vertex group is causing it

[modern topaz]

Where can I find the body so I can make a model of the uniform?

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its the Character_weights_Template located in the Sample Character

[modern topaz]

Thankss

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Also struggling with shoulders stretching bad

[hazy vault]

Any Ideas? Second view is when opened in substance

https://gyazo.com/f7f07d418fba0d279d14610f4dcb0704

https://gyazo.com/68832b055c712847c84d166d2396bd25

[sly bridge]

yeah, make sure you have proper topology and no Ngons when exporting. You can export quads and triangles if you want, but that entire face around the door frame has 8 edges i think

[hazy vault]

That is the word I was looking for, Ngons! Thank you I think that will fix it

[sly bridge]

the proper thing to do is to add more edges supporting the sides and the top parts of these door frames

because just by looking over your unwrap (should be more tight btw) there are a lot more faces with the same issues

also, have a look over PBR Multi for anything structures

[hazy vault]

As in the Preset?

[hazy vault]

Just use loopcut to do so?

[sly bridge]

as in the shader

[sly bridge]

not a blender user, but depending on how you plan to texture it one of the two options

[hazy vault]

I'm just now learning how to Import to substance or really do any texturing. I had a project I worked on for a long time but the Geo was broken in soo many places I decided to start over

https://gyazo.com/ebb65e196f2a1d0b5563e1d1377d055e

Monstrosity

I want to keep everything much cleaner on the remake

I make my walls with planes for Backface culling/ Normals, is that standard for reforger?

[sly bridge]

i understand that, but do have a look over how PBR multi functions, it allows for a much much higher texel density using seamless (at least on the U axis) textures and planar mapping and blending between 4 sets using masks

[hazy vault]

are you refrencing these templates, I assume these are the shader options

https://gyazo.com/e9e409115528814ac93af41f362fbb36

[sly bridge]

while you can toggle backface culling on and off in the workbench per object, it is ideal that walls have thickness (both for the mesh and it's geometry)

[sly bridge]

i am talking about Enfusion PBR Multi, not substance shader templates. Enfusion uses metalness / roughness workflow

[hazy vault]

Oooh Understood!

[hazy vault]

Do you texture in Substance or just typically in workbench?

[sly bridge]

you cannot texture in workbench

[hazy vault]

You can apply and edit textures in the workbench, like the Reforger tools cant you?

[sly bridge]

workbench = reforger tools

[fluid fern]

Hey have you have this error ? I imported then reimported by checking “Generate BSP” and “Export Opaque Leave” except that I have the impression that it didn't work properly.
I've got my portals but my BSP doesn't seem to work, when I pull the sound isn't muffled.

[fluid fern]

I have 0 errors when i import

[sacred cape]

Hello, is it possible to use a MatPBRTreeCrown with a model with a bone it disapear ?

[sacred cape]

Wtf, I don't know why my model disapear 0_o

Here is without bone (Export skining) and here with my bones

[patent wren]

Guys, will it be easier to take existing gun from vanilla game and modify the mesh of it, or take gun that is already made and rig it for arma?

Lets say, is it easier to modify meshes or rig the mesh for arma?

Another question is, how hard do you think will be to import these modded assets to arma 4?

[delicate condor]

Can't modify existing things from vanilla or mods

You have to make new models

Or use bought models.

Using ripped stuff from other games is definitely forbidden

[patent wren]

By vanilla game i meant arma reforger ofc, the wiki specifically says to use vanilla guns and modify them?
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:Weapon_Modding

Plan is to make bullpup version of one of the vanilla guns

[delicate condor]

You can't get the models.

The wiki text means something else than what you thought

[patent wren]

God damn it, i thought i can use the game assets to make mods 😦

[faint scarab]

You can just retexture the models... maybe! It's still not clear to me whether it's legal or simply tolerated!

[patent wren]

It seems that they do not allow that, which is weird, but its their intelectual property and they do not allow those to be redistributed?

Would be nice if that could be stated somewhere explicitly, that you cannot reuse the original assets, like guns and vehicles in your own mods (even if there is no exchange of money). Only way they say i can use it is for my own mod (not public) and for experimentation. But not public mod

The wiki gives an impression that you can just do inherited prefab and upload it as a mod.

https://reforger.armaplatform.com/workshop/5E4F1725CF7FD63A-M249pkmrpkrails

And how is this one done? Does it not add a version of pkm with just added picatinny?

[delicate condor]

you can inherit a prefab yes

but thats all done in the worbench

you dont get to touch the actual model inside the prefab