enfusion_scenario

[slow thicket]

So thats what I was doing originally, and then it wasnt working at all. Also it still gets deleted when I save, close, and reopen

[late oyster]

are you adding it into the default eden layer?

you can't edit anything in the terrain layer, you need to add a new one

[analog dock]

Nah I was just looking for a way of changing the move speed of the units to the desired waypoint since someone asked for it

Eventually found it and posted the answer in here

[solar shard]

yeah sorry, mein app was lagging.

[solid timber]

is there a way to add custom markers on the map?

[sullen talon]

MapDescriptor component can somehow work. Example is in Capture&Hold or Conflict.

[solid timber]

thanks for the pointer!

[mystic kestrel]

so, i can't get my mission to show up ingame. i see it under "downloads", but there is nothing in it

how can i solve this?

[torpid plinth]

huh, turns out we've been on the same game version since 2011 🤔

[solar shard]

hm, just tried to destroy a truck in my mission with a LAW or RPG... they eat 4-5 rockets. Not to speak of the BTR. Is this normal?!

[clever pelican]

probably typo and suppose to be 2021 😄

[hollow mesa]

okay, working some out

hold MMB: moves camera up/down/left/right relative
scroll wheel: moves forwards/back
hold right mouse + scroll: changes camera speed
hold right mouse + WASDQZ: moves camera in your standard WASDQZ way

numpad with item selected: rotates you around the object 
ctrl + numpad: different debug options

alt + drag left mouse : it will rotate the camera around whatever is selected (simkas)

addon.gproj -> shortcuts : list of shortcuts (Graf Eisen)

[torpid plinth]

QWERTY changes the selected tool in the default order in the top toolbar

[hollow mesa]

hold right mouse + WASDQZ

[solid timber]

if you open the addon.gproj there is a shortcuts editor in the last tab

[torpid plinth]

that's not what I'm talking about

I'm talking about the tools like entity position/scale/rotate

etc

[hollow mesa]

yup, sorry, me being dumb lmao

[late oyster]

also hold alt + drag with left mouse, it will rotate the camera around whatever is selected

or either mouse button actually

[hollow mesa]

the controls should be in a wiki, or in a help bar

[sullen talon]

@foggy cairn please check out that typo to prevent confusion, thanks!

[slow thicket]

So I just published a scenario but it's not showing up in scenarios after being downloaded. Anyone have any idea what I'm doing wrong?

[solar shard]

Did you move the project out of the addons folder, did the other stuff you can find when searching here or reading the sticky posts? (No placeholder images, registered header file etc)

[foggy cairn]

fixed, thanks

[solid timber]

@solar shard do you happen to be the one that published night ops everon?

[solar shard]

Yes. Its a work in progress. I mm not a home right now but I try to figure out tonight tasks or at least trigger and will share everything

[solid timber]

Awesome, thanks for that! It's been great to study, compared to capture and hold (for coop stuff ofc)

im looking into markers now, hopefully i can give back some useful findings

[solar shard]

That would be great to know too.

[slow thicket]

I moved the scenario out of the addon folder, but Im not sure about the header file. I cant find from searching what I'm suppose to do with that

[torn wyvern]

Can you lock a layer in world editor, like in 3den in Arma 3 so you dont accidentally move stuff around or jump around in the hierarchy every time i click on a tree? i really would like to lock the whole Eden layer to prevent that

[solar shard]

Ofcourse. Right mouse button.

[torn wyvern]

disregard, im stupid 😄 was searching all over the place but did not think about the context menu

[solar shard]

But you have that header file? In missions folder?

[solar shard]

Klick with right mouse button on it and check if you can register it (if its grey, irs already done)

[slow thicket]

Probably not. I don't know anything about header files

[solar shard]

Follow the basic scenario tutorial on the wiki. Its explained there.

[slow thicket]

Im very dumb I have no idea how I missed that. Thanks!

[late oyster]

if you mean right click > lock, that doesn't seem to lock anything, everything is still selectable

[torn wyvern]

yeah, it prevents moving stuff, preventing objects from being selectable would be nice as well. stops the jumping around in the hierarchy

[zinc wharf]

are there any examples of limited slot based role selection, similar to how in Arma 3, players would choose their place in the squad?

[sullen talon]

Finally, your answer is here!

If you need to test the scenario in-game without publishing it, if other means fail; please try the following:

EDIT: Moving the mod might not be necessary, you might drop the -addonsDir then; but in case you have some folder clashes, you can try whatever suits you.

1. Move scenario out of documents
2. Open Reforger properties in steam
3. In general set the launch params to:
   -addonsDir "D:/Path/To/Your/Custom/Folder/Root" -addons YourAddonId
4. Launch the game and see the scenario.

See if this works for you, I just tried with a mod (dependending on Capture&Hold) and it worked for me just well.

Worst case scenario, try deleting your published addon from your documents folder first. (Or via Workshop)

I am attaching the addon for reference + visual screenshot explanation.

[zinc wharf]

or is that something we would have to build from scratch?

[austere cobalt]

Hi, thanks. TacticalAvokado has mentioned this some hours ago I tried it, and it worked. Created a shortcut with the parameter and started my mod from there. #enfusion_scenario message
I'm using the default add-ons directory, so -addonsDir is not required.

[sullen talon]

[sullen talon]

Aight, you might be right, I was a bit worried about possible conflicts, updated the message to state that clearly

[solar shard]

but you cant move or delete em.

[slow thicket]

Okay last annoying question: Where do I change the min players? In the mission header it doesn't seem like I can set a specific minimum

[sullen talon]

There is no such thing unfortunately. The game mode has a "pre-game" state which could be used to wait for more players, but I believe it is currently not working as intended 😦

[zinc wharf]

what about having limited slots that you pick from when joining a mission ex0

[narrow path]

how do i create folders in my Hierarchy its greyed out for me?

[zinc wharf]

is that something we can implement from scratch, or is there an example?

[sullen talon]

Are you doing that in your mod, or in the locked core data?

[slow thicket]

Damn. thanks

[sullen talon]

I think it would have to be done from scratch. But there are some OnFaction.../OnLoadout... assigned callbacks somewhere, try searching for those; could ease it for you.

[zinc wharf]

ok thanks

this would include creating a UI right?

[narrow path]

ahhhh yeah so would u believe me if i said it wasnt in the locked core folder? (It was)

yeah so when i try and create a new folder by right clicking on a layer it is greyed out

[sullen talon]

World editor? #world_editor

[winter grove]

I have a SCR_MissionHeader in the Missions directory in my addon which are both registered. I go into game and under workshop I see the addon and enable it. Then I go to scenarios and the scenario is nowhere to be seen. Looking through chat history it seems other people have this problem, but I don't see any solutions.

[lime stratus]

When you go in workbench to the publish menu, and try to bundle your addon, does it print an error?

Habe you checked game log files for errors?

I suspect its probably the image issue

[solar shard]

did you try this? #enfusion_scenario message

[sullen talon]

Could be this issue:
#enfusion_scenario message

Otherwise you can try:
#enfusion_scenario message

[winter grove]

I have not published it

let me see if it's the image problem

[slow thicket]

Has anyone figured out how to get the scenerio to use the AIWorld that you create instead of the one in the Capture and Hold base?

[solid timber]

is there a way to see the map in editor? the player map, i mean (M)

[solar shard]

dont understand what you mean exactly? i made my map without CAH dependency with the normal AIWorld entitiy.

[sullen talon]

Is this because the NavMesh is missing in the AIWorld?

[sullen talon]

You can build the scenario from scratch completely, basically copy the contents of C&H base world yourself and make sure to include all the necessary managers, then you will have all of them in your mod and can modify them freely. 👍

Just make it a sub-scene of Eden, not C&H TestWorld.

[slow thicket]

Okay sweet, how do I actually copy it?

[narrow path]

do i have to generate a navmesh or is there one already created that i can use?

[solar shard]

its already there

mom

[narrow path]

where cuz my SCR_AIWorld doesnt have one atm so im generating one while looking for it

[solar shard]

select in the AIWorld in navmeshcomponent the Navhmesh-File: gm_eden

[sullen talon]

You can use the one created.

[sullen talon]

Hmm, I am not sure if it can be copied easily, but you could just make sure to include all the managers the base world has, this way you might learn about their mysterious purposes! 😄

[slow thicket]

Lol I was afraid youd say that. But your right it will be a good way to learn. Thanks!

[solar shard]

AI World Navmesh already generatred without CAH

[narrow path]

yeah i found it just as u posted this XD

[sullen talon]

Yep, adding navmesh to C&H would make sense I guess. Let me see how fast it could be done 😉

[west karma]

What do I have to add to make the character AI? If there's a message for that already could someone pin it please?

[late oyster]

go into the ai component and tick "enable AI"

[narrow path]

okay, So now i dont get the faction selection screen when i test, but afaik i have everything that is need placed down.
FactionManager_USXUSSR
SCR_AIWorld
LoadoutManager_USXUSSR
GarbageManager
SpawnPoint_USSR.

Yesterday it was showing me the screen for faction select now its not. am i being dumb and accidently deleted somthing without realising?

[slow thicket]

That's exactly what I am trying to do

[late oyster]

it's the "AIControlComponent"

[west karma]

Hm I did that, might be the SCR_AIWorld I was missing?

[solar shard]

Which game manager do you use?

[late oyster]

yeah I think it needs the AIWorld thing

you can just copy and paste that from the GM mission

[exotic reef]

do you have a game mode object?

[narrow path]

just using the plain one

[exotic reef]

try using a different one

[west karma]

Yeah it did!

[late oyster]

it seems like in general the easiest way to make a new mission is to just copy paste the entities from the GM mission

[sullen talon]

Aaaaaare you perhaps missing the game mode? 😄

[solar shard]

I used the desthmatch gamemode.

[narrow path]

im using the plain one atm, someone said to try the other ones so im doing that now

[solar shard]

That works fine for now and will be an issue (maybe) once I figured out how to end a scenario properly

[sullen talon]

Ah, fair - it was missing in your list. Also you are missing US spawn point.

[narrow path]

Doing a PVE mission hopefully

[slow thicket]

I dont have to be depending on C&H

[winter grove]

I can log in on the editor just fine but the game tells me I have wrong username and password

[exotic reef]

try using your email

[winter grove]

using my email is wrong too. It is asking for username, though.

[sullen talon]

First thing first:

1. Are you perhaps playing from camera position? This skips the respawning part (Dropdown next to play button - play from camera position)

2. What is your parent world you are making a sub-scene in, if any? If not Eden, make sure you have things like CameraManager, etc.

[west karma]

When you're doing an AI group where do you find the enableAI thing? Got a group spawned but not with enabled AI

[solar shard]

Literally just scroll 20 pots upside. It’d the AIWorld entity

[west karma]

Yeah so I ave the AI world entity but the characters spawned by the group aren't being AI

I can get individual characters with AI but not the AI Group with AI

[solar shard]

Wait. How dud you spawn the group?

Not with single characters I guess / hoe

[west karma]

I added the AI Group Base prefab

Then added group members

[solar shard]

Hm. That is weired. That all you need is the AIWorld with an added meshfile

[west karma]

Mkay, well I haven't added a meshfile

Or is that in SCR_AIWorld?

[solar shard]

Im talking about this

[west karma]

Ah OK so

[exotic reef]

add groups from Prefabs -> Groups -> BLUFOR/OPFOR etc

[west karma]

I used the Group_USSR_RiflemanSquad rather than the AI grou base and they are running around

[exotic reef]

there are premade templates

[west karma]

But not shooting at me

[exotic reef]

you need a faction manager for that

[west karma]

Yeah got that

They might just be on the same side as me as I shot one and he said "I'm hit" in chat

[solar shard]

Use either faction integer or faction key. Depending. And a faction manager in the first place.

[west karma]

https://i.imgur.com/y0XPS4c.png Is what I have added, am I missing anything?

[solar shard]

Looks fine but I strongly suggest to use different layers.

[west karma]

Yeah I'm just playing around atm to get an AI group working

It's like I'm setCaptive though in ArmA 3

[solar shard]

Did you config the faction manager probably?

[west karma]

I dropped in the prefab one and didn't touch anyting, am i supposed to do something else?

Screw it I'm going to start all over and see what happens haha

[analog dock]

I recommend using the GM_Eden preset. It has everything you need for working AI

[sullen talon]

Plain game mode has automatic respawn component. Build your own prefab and use the RespawnMenuHandler instead of AutomaticSpawnHandler. ☺️

[west karma]

Sounds good once I have working AI 😛

[solar shard]

Just go through all settings and components when placing down an entity. Most is self-explaining

[west karma]

I was missing the perception manager 🙂

SO I guess they couldn't see me

[solar shard]

A yeah. Totally forgot about that.

[west karma]

But if I add the HitReg manager it drops me in the ocean

[mystic kestrel]

how can you set AI behaviours like"relaxed", "aware"? that ley don't run to the waypoint and just "walk" there without being alert?

and, how can i give the player a waypoint so the player knows where to go or what to do?

[solar shard]

Both things I’m straggly also with. Ping me of you find a solution.

Only thing I can offer: you can edit the waypoint behavior to patrol instead move so at least they walk. But they are a still pretty aware

[west karma]

Are you adding waypoints via group paypoints or are you placing a waypoint down?

[mystic kestrel]

i am placing them down (static waypoints)

[mystic kestrel]

oh thanks!

[west karma]

And then just naming them?

[mystic kestrel]

yeah, i am naming them and just put the name into the little text field

[west karma]

Cool thanks 🙂

[narrow path]

so i must be dumb, but i assume there is a game mode for PVE both the plain and base gamemodes seem to just spawn you in the corner of the map

[west karma]

Have you placed a spawn point?

[narrow path]

yeah

its just the game mode i havnt got atm

[mystic kestrel]

that's way too little

you need:

[west karma]

Is there a navigation mesh I need to put in? My AI seem pretty dumb

[narrow path]

i have these FactionManager_USXUSSR
SCR_AIWorld
LoadoutManager_USXUSSR
GarbageManager
SpawnPoint_USSR.

[mystic kestrel]

factionManager, GameMode (i use plain), hitRegManager, PerceptionManager, SCR_AIWolrd, GarbageManager, Spawnpoint, LoadOutManager

[mystic kestrel]

yes just use one of those campaing nav meshes

that's what i did at least and it works

[west karma]

Where are they?
I find adding the hitRegManager drops me in the ocean

[mystic kestrel]

if you want to use radio stuff or chat you need radiomanager and this scriptedchatmanger or how it is called.

tag manager if you want to see name tags

[mystic kestrel]

just search them in the search bar for the file browser on the bottom

and maybe filter by "prefabs"

if you wanna place stuff only prefabs are relevant to you

[west karma]

I've got Navmesh_soldiers and Navmesh_vehicles.et is that it?

[mystic kestrel]

and for AI: DON'T use single units, there HAS to be a group (even if only 1 unit is in the group)

[mystic kestrel]

yeah that's what i use iirc

[west karma]

And do you just drag them onto the map?

[mystic kestrel]

but i didn't really test how well they perform with these navmeshes

[mystic kestrel]

yeah just drag the group on the map.

[west karma]

I meant the Navmesh

[mystic kestrel]

oh no, you have to assign them in the SCR_AIWorld in those navmesh components on the upper right corner

correction iu use CTI_Campaign_Eden navmesh

can't get tasks to work. anyone knows how to assign waypoints/tasks to players?

(human players)

[narrow path]

well now when i place radio manage it spawns me in the sea, if i remove it, it spawns me on the USSR spawn point, but it doesnt show the role selection screen, and doesnt show the screen to pick which spawn point

[mystic kestrel]

oh yeah, go to your Game mode (plain) and edit the component "SCR_AutomaticRespawnHandlerComponent" and set ForcedFaction to your faction. then you should at least not spawn in the ocean. don't know about the role selection screen tho, as this is not my style of playing this game and i build my stuff so i don't have this

there you can also set your loadout btw

[mystic kestrel]

btw, if you use a game master world, those managers spawn automatically. you only have to do that on the normal Eden map

[solar shard]

you can use my published version of a very first coop environment and copy the stuff you need. Im still struggling with tasks and triggers, so thats not included right now and will come in a late branch.

https://github.com/Zealous666/AR_NightOps1985

[west karma]

My guss for triggers would be to script them? You can add an onGameStart script to the GameMode

[solar shard]

Well yes.My goal is to script as much as possible. In the tutorial the most Is hardcoded and I wasn’t able to decluster it

[final anvil]

So, where does one start with making missions?

[west karma]

So what're you splitting the layers into? Different parts of the mission? I was going to do like System/Players/BluAI/RedAI

[west karma]

Crying!

[final anvil]

I'm looking to make a modified game-master scenario.

Fuck! Just like arma 3 @west karma

So... no documentation or anyone to point me towards what tool to use?

I checked the pinned comments and have no idea lol

[solar shard]

Then start reading. There are even YouTube videos around. We are at this point at very specific issues. Like creating tasks, trigger, mission end conditions

[narrow path]

theres a small amount of documentation, its being slowly released best bet would be to start with this https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:Capture_%26_Hold_Setup

[final anvil]

I have, it seems the ArmA discord hasn't changed all that much in terms of help.

[narrow path]

we are here to help but we are all running in to diffirent problems somthings we have yet to figure out and there are a couple bugs still in the tools

[solar shard]

I do managers and AI related stuff in one.

And mission phases / stages in its own. Waypoints for example can be put inside the different groups.

[exotic reef]

we can't help since we don't know anything either

[narrow path]

ifu wanna start make a new world and search for GM_Eden this will loadup everon for you, from there u can place down groups waypoints and figure it out as you go along some things we have already done and figured out, but some not so much

[solar shard]

We are discussing, helping and figuring out non stop since release. Its just not that simple or answered again and again. Here are sticky posts, generic discussions, sample missions etc. Its all here. And the tutorials and videos are made by folks from here too. What else do you expect from the Arma community exactly?

[final anvil]

To be frank, exactly what Striker just said 😂 .

[solar shard]

That is in the sticky too since every hour a new fellow like you shows up 😂

[final anvil]

Just pointing people at the tool or whatever ya'll have in terms of documentation. I have plenty of hours behind A3's system and development tools and have a complete understanding of how hectic it really can be, but I also have a general disdain for those that are negative about helping others. That's not saying you are, but plenty of people I've met just simply shit on someone and don't give them any idea on what to do.

It's counter intuitive, and really pissed me off when I first started working with terrains (god forbid I do that again).

But anyways, this isn't condusive to your original discussions. I got my answer, so i'll let you all continue. Thanks.

[narrow path]

this isnt anything like A3 this is the issue that alot of people are running in to, ive been making missions since A1 and alot of things that worked in previous titles just stright up dont exist anymore its like being brand new to arma mission making all over again just 100x harder

[solar shard]

Its all fine. Actually, we can need every help we can get to dig deeper into it.

[final anvil]

I'm going to be doing everything I can to eat away at it, if I find something I will most definitely drop it here.

[final anvil]

You're telling me, Zeusing alone was daunting until I started finding all the little helpful things.

But it's definitely not polished like A3's game master.

[west karma]

I'm going to try typing up a basic guide when I work enough stuff out to do it 😛

[pulsar portal]

so im brand new to mission making and seem tro have fallen at step 1 when i load eden.ent i only get an ocean

[west karma]

That's right

[analog dock]

You need to select one of the objects and hit 'F'

[west karma]

You're in the bottom left hand corner of the map

When is ocean

You can change camera speed with the scroll wheel too

[pulsar portal]

right ok thank you

[narrow path]

omfg i keep going in to Arma 3 Other profiles to get to the mission folder XD

[final anvil]

seriously.

i have 3 gigs of mission files in that folder 🙂

[solar shard]

Im a mission maker since OFP 20 years ago. But now its not mission making any longer. Its game developing. While it stresses cause of lacking documentation, irs actually pretty hyping for me.

[mental cove]

yeah the world editor is a little overkill if you just wanna make scenarios, its much more like using the unity engine or something. I hope there is something between gamemaster and the world editor in terms of complexity for arma 4

[west karma]

Yeah, it's pretty cool that all the limitations of mission editting have actually been removed, it's just much more difficult to get started now!
At a guess I'd say that you'll be able to save Game Master missions or A4 will just have another editor

[mental cove]

But fast forward 500hrs of practise and I think ill be making some good stuff with the world editor

[unique minnow]

are there any scenarios to download yet

[narrow path]

a couple

[unique minnow]

would you be able to provide the titles or screenshot?

[narrow path]

night ops is the main one that works rn,

[solar shard]

Look for NightOps Everon 1985 in the workshop or you can download my source files from GitHub

But there are plenty more by other people

[slow thicket]

I just uploaded an extremely basic AI skirmish that I think is finally working. If anyone tries it let me know if you experience any bugs. AI dont respawn right now I have no idea how to do that.

[distant knoll]

question - if i make a change to the base map, like edit the terrain or delete buildings, would that require the user to download the edited version of the map along with the mission?

[narrow path]

i dont think anyone has tested that yet

[distant knoll]

ah

[narrow path]

could ask the map makers or Ex0 either one may know

[slow thicket]

I would assume it would have to be treated as a completely separate map

[distant knoll]

to me it would make sense that theyd need to download the entire thing

[slow thicket]

Including when you edit it

[narrow path]

yeah unless we have somthing like the hide terrain module from A3

[distant knoll]

welp

[mystic kestrel]

did you guys find out how to make AI not alert and to feel "safe"?

[distant knoll]

no mission specific trenches :(

[narrow path]

Click on what ever u want to get rid of, in Object properties go to SCR_EditableCommendComponent there is a visible option in there

[exotic reef]

it probably just diff-patches the base map to remove the items. i highly doubt you'd have to download another copy of the map

[narrow path]

same with Map Descriptorcomponent

[distant knoll]

i would hope that is true, but i wasn't sure. well theres only one way to find out i guess

[narrow path]

gah why cant i make folders in my sublayers?

[analog dock]

I started creating a toolbox for missions in case anyone is interested. Currently only adds waypoints with movement speed adjustment but planning on updating this further https://github.com/Miep3r/ArmAReforger-MissionToolbox

[west karma]

https://github.com/Herbiie/ArmAReforgerMissionMakingGuide/wiki/ArmA-Reforger-Mission-Making---Getting-Started

In the process of updating this but if the experienced guys have anything that's outright wrong please let me know 🙂

[narrow path]

anyone figured out how to lock vehicles yet?

[analog dock]

Probably requires modification of the vehicle interaction since it's not implemented yet

[mystic coyote]

Any idea if its possible to change the size and composition of groups?

[narrow path]

yeah on the right side there should be a value that u can change aswell as change what soldiers are place in the group i just closed the editor and dont remeber the name of it tho

[worthy glade]

haha we really need basic guides, i am itching to get into this

[mystic coyote]

Sorry I'm talking about player groups

Not the AI

Wasnt clear my b

[final anvil]

no guides needed at this point, it's all the wild west. just get in there and set up a world https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:Capture_%26_Hold_Setup

[west karma]

https://github.com/Herbiie/ArmAReforgerMissionMakingGuide/wiki/ArmA-Reforger-Mission-Making---Getting-Started
I'm getting there 😛

[round goblet]

ℹ️ I have started "Awesome Reforger" list with links to all useful info/tutorial/content for Reforger modding.

https://github.com/ofpisnotdead-com/awesome-reforger

[mental cove]

Has anybody figured the tasks out yet, I managed to get one to appear for gamemaster but didnt seem visible to actual players

[worthy glade]

thanks herbiie, can i add you if i have anything i figure out or stumble upon that might help the guide

[west karma]

Yeah definitely, very much want feedback from people so I can keep refining it

[worthy glade]

okay, after work in maybe 7ish hours i'll give it a run through and let you know

[west karma]

😄

[analog dock]

Added lock functionality to my mission toolbox. Every SCR_BaseLockComponent now has a lock override dropdown

[feral epoch]

Herbiie as in, UO Herbiie?

[worthy glade]

ok i gave in and did it over lunch. Herbii, this is EXACTLY what we need, please continue I love you and how best can i support

like this should be in the official wiki

[west karma]

'Tis I

I SHALL MAKE ALL OF THE REFORGER MISSIONS BROKEN

MUWAHAHA

HAHA

[slow thicket]

Does anyone know how to publish to xbox?

[solar shard]

there is a xbox tab in the publishing.

ehrg mission header

wait no. thats actually wrong. where did I see this?

[slow thicket]

Yeah I checked there, didnt see it

[solar shard]

hm, I saw all the different platform tabs yesterday somewhere... mom

hm thats actually a seriously good question. I wanted to check it on my series x too and thought I saw the function but now all I find is the different platforms in the workbench re-import window. But that doesnt help

[sullen talon]

Good news everyone, I'm working on shipping a very 'MVP' coop setup with static&dynamic AI spawning. It's not very modular, but it should give you a great example. ETA 30 minutes!

[narrow latch]

I know it's been answered but I can't find it, anyone able to give me a quick run down on getting AI to work? lol

[solar shard]

this is awesome. Including something to fulfil? (triggered task or whatever)

[sullen talon]

No, just simply killing one of the groups will end the gamemode with victory

[solar shard]

that is more then I achieved

[sullen talon]

But; since it will be on GitHub, we can do more stuff there, as it will be requested

#nopromisesthough #butI'llTryMyBest 😛

[west karma]

https://github.com/Herbiie/ArmAReforgerMissionMakingGuide/wiki/ArmA-Reforger-Mission-Making---Getting-Started

Should all be in there

[solar shard]

the simple thing as if one entitiy is not alive (a vehicle) to finish the mission would be a BIG step forward

[narrow latch]

[west karma]

DESTROY THE TRUCK

[solar shard]

^^

[sullen talon]

Aight, lemme add that

[west karma]

😇

[sullen talon]

But first - initial commit 🙂

[solar shard]

its such a simple thing like "destroy the truck" including a task to point of that, which I try the WHOLE day to achieve. And now, you do it just on the fly 😉

[west karma]

Ok my getting started guide has, I think, using prefabs only, got to the "there is a battle" stage with the basic stuff for in the World Editor, taking a break before I look into publishing/briefings/map marking/end conditions, but could someone with experience cast their eye over it and tell me if I've done anything wrong?

[mystic kestrel]

did you figure out tasks/waypoints for human players?

[west karma]

Not even tried haha

[mystic kestrel]

that's the last thing i really need for missions to work for me and my friends lol

[west karma]

Tbh over the last however many hours I've got to the point I did in the first 5 minutes of using Game Master haha

[solar shard]

Im actually on the same shipt right now. When i place a baseGameTask, it appears for gamemaster but not for players. Its white, so no faction assigned I guess. But thats all I got so far.

[mystic kestrel]

yeah pretty much the same result i had

[solar shard]

that means, you found a way to finish a mission?

[mystic kestrel]

totally forgot about that lol no

but i mean we're a closed group of friends, we could play around that for a while tho

[sullen talon]

Oh also triggers to spawn AI

[solar shard]

I hate and love you. Just how...

[mystic kestrel]

are there traditional triggers?

[solar shard]

I expect nothing less then a good step by step explanation to dublicate your grorious work 😉

[junior cliff]

Is there any kind of "shape" I could place in world editor to use it for checking if "A in B area" via code?

[solar shard]

hmpf, I just found the place to set the faction key of a task and all crashed -_-

[sullen talon]

Very basic example of setting up custom game mode, factions, loadouts, having them properly inherited and set up, the minimal world / scenario setup, example of spawning AI statically and dynamically, assigning waypoints from scripts, ending the game mode with a victory screen. Should get you guys busy for a bit!

https://github.com/exocs/Reforger-Sample-Coop is accessible?

[late oyster]

how do I add an existing world in world editor? somehow the Eden world disappeared and now I only have my sub world

[west karma]

Yep accessible

[solar shard]

absolutely.

[narrow latch]

eeeeey, I got the AI movin round

but they aint shootin at me

[sullen talon]

[sullen talon]

PerceptionManager missing?

[narrow latch]

nah it's there

I noticed that this github thing wanted me to set forced faction us on the game mode component?

[sullen talon]

That is more of a testing thing! 😄

You can legit disable whether the faction is playable or not and imho it's the preferred way - the respawn menu then works properly 😉

[west karma]

Otherwise it won't know which faction to spawn you and put you in the ocean

Unless there is a better way of doing that ingame?

[sullen talon]

#enfusion_scenario message
Check here, it's in the example 🙂

[narrow latch]

yeah in that forced faction thing I get -1

[west karma]

Or in editor

[west karma]

Try saving everything and reloading it

[sullen talon]

-1 = none

[narrow latch]

1 =?

[west karma]

0 would be US 1 would be USSR

Because the US is the first faction

[sullen talon]

Not necessarily, depends.

[west karma]

But there should be a drop down

[west karma]

If they're following the guide 😄

[sullen talon]

The drop down should work. As long as you have FactionManager and LoadoutManager in the world.
If it doesn't show, try re-saving the world 🙂

Factions are stored in a non-linear collection, therefore their order can get changed, it's better to use FactionKey, that always hits fast. 🙂

[solar shard]

Can you elaborate how you did setup those triggers. Im just studying your file right now.

i see those triggers, but what does them TRIGGER?

its when a player enters, I see. But i dont see where you defined that

[sullen talon]

You can either call QueryEntitiesInside to query manually or you can enable the automatic updates at fixed interval. (properties on the entity). Also it has the Filter Class and Filter Name on the entity, you can filter those already. E.g. ChimeraCharacter on filter class will only filter for incoming characters.

For player, you would have to implement custom logic.

Tl;dr: entity passing in will be caught, but you can specialize the filter, see:
ScriptedGameTriggerEntity::ScriptedEntityFilterForQuery

[narrow latch]

I do like the factions being individuals instead of being locked into blufor/opfor/civilians/neutral

The AI tried to shoot me!

rood

[west karma]

Is there a limit to how many units get spawned in the world editor preview?

[solar shard]

Ok I get that. Thx. And where did you define where the AI spawnes? in those added WPs?

[sullen talon]

Check the SCR_AISpawnerComponent.

[solar shard]

yeah Im talking about thatr

you set there WPs

AH. i see now. The spawn position

SCR_AISpawnerComponent did you write this?

[sullen talon]

Yes, that is added in the mod.

I will be talking with the folks in the office to see if we can somehow create a more modular approach anytime soon, but in general this should give a good kick-off for all of you. I hope

[solar shard]

Outstanding. I understand now a little bit better how trigger work in here. Can you point us the direction for a !alive component or how we could setup a task with this?

[solar shard]

Thanks, never the less! Great.

[sullen talon]

Good point, tasks I have not worked with yet - I'll try to check (most likely tomorrow)

[solar shard]

task, mission end script (like the good old scenario end module) and ofcourse the !alive stuff is the things, people are looking for since release the most I believe.

Since that is the barebone stuff to establish a small coop scenario

[sullen talon]

Check how the game mode is end (the fade out screen)
#enfusion_scenario message
here, it is added in the example

[solar shard]

oh didn even noticed. thats no trigger I see

[lean scroll]

Do prefab AI units have AI controllers already in them

[solar shard]

thats the gameoverscreenmanager I guess

[solar shard]

but how does the gameoverscreenmanager fires?

[mystic kestrel]

good question 😂

[sullen talon]

gm.EndGameMode( ... )```

Right now it's in the spawner component - just as an example. Depends on how you want to approach your game mode, you should place it sensibly

[late oyster]

I noticed that there's a handful of different navmesh files for the map, is there any difference between them?

I can see that some have "vehicle" in the name while others don't

[west karma]

I think you have two navmesh components, one for infantry one for vehicles?

[narrow latch]

alrighty, I made a quick CQB test, but gun shots don't seem to alert the AI

[west karma]

HitReg manager in?

[narrow latch]

I mean the sound of gunshots

they notice getting shot lol

[solar shard]

you mean the endgame on empty tickbox? so when its ticked, endgame fires after group has been spawned AND emptied?

[late oyster]

but there's multiple of each

there's CTI_Campaign ones and MPAITest ones

and then also a GM one

[sullen talon]

Correct.

[sullen talon]

Yes exactly.

[exotic reef]

is SCR_AISpawnerComponent based on an existing component or was it custom written for this mission?

[sullen talon]

Custom, unfortunately, but you can salvage it and write something similar to your needs. #enfusion_scripting

[exotic reef]

i'm not going to speak for others, but personally i think this is way too complex for basic mission making

i appreciate the tutorials though

[late oyster]

huh so if you enable the vehicle navmesh (it's disabled by default) and manage to get AI into a driver seat, they sorta can drive

in a jeep it just kept going in large circles backwards

with a BTR they didn't even try

[solar shard]

@exotic reef @sullen talon well yes and no. I was very deep into scripting in ofp - arma 3 but since this here is totally new, Im happy for every component which is already delivered similar to modules. Like an not alive component or a createTask thingy

[west karma]

The editing here is still better than the 2d editor IMO

Though it is more complex, once tutorials/examples are plentiful it'll be easy

[narrow latch]

okay that's interesting, i've given the AI defend waypoints with moderate radiuses, and most of them just stay in the same spot unalerted for some reason

but one guy came out of a room to shoot at me

[west karma]

Yeah I've noticed that too

But they do shout "DEFEND THIS POSITION" and when they get attacked they stay in the general area

[narrow latch]

I wonder why only one guy came out of his room to shoot me though

[west karma]

All that was needed 😉

[solar shard]

He took the short stick

[narrow latch]

that one guy is the best CQB experience i've had in ARMA lol

[neat thunder]

From what I'm seeing missions are loaded for the final player just like any other mod?
If I run a server I need to put a list of all the missions there + all mods?

[solar shard]

hahah

[sullen talon]

Consider we are like three days in, we are noting feedback, I believe some features and API willl be added, eventually. Just keep em comin!

[narrow latch]

I was stunned that he got a shot off

[slow thicket]

I love the new coop sample now my only question is how do we create the triggers on our own. I'm still confused about how to create a trigger from a script.

[west karma]

People will automatically download the mods when they join I think

So you should just need to add them to the server

[solar shard]

I do consider and Im very happy. That you in person are now here supporting and providing, talking with your developers and so on is a pretty good apporach for kickoff. I say this as a marketing specialist 😉

[neat thunder]

yes, but i'm wondering how that will be handled on the server

let's say that my community has 500 missions, and we run 100 mods

how would my server config file look like?

[slow thicket]

Or I guess how we create the prefabs

[west karma]

Oh, good point idk

[solar shard]

@sullen talon speaking about performance. We are used to avoid triggers and try to solve a lot hardcoded or by script. How is the intervall performance now?

[sullen talon]

Thanks also goes to @willow inlet, he supports and encourages these efforts A LOT.

[solar shard]

@willow inlet 🙂

[neat thunder]

I would like my community server to be running all the time and let admins pick a mission to play from the list

while mods are always loaded

for consistency

[sullen talon]

No code is the fastest code, obviously. Should be better, I hope; querying manually or even not at all (if not needed) is for sure preferred.

[exotic reef]

trigger objects are in the Create tab

[sullen talon]

Make a prefab, spawn prefab from script. Pinned post explains prefab creation. Empty entities can be added from Create tab. Check C&H for more trigger usage.

☝️

[slow thicket]

Thank you both

[narrow latch]

so is there something particular that causes the AI hearing guns shots to not go into ready mode?

also note that I have the AI set up in these buildings as individual guys in individual groups

[solar shard]

so every guy is in an own group and all have the same defend waypoint?

[narrow latch]

nah, all have individual waypoints

because I want particular soliders defending particular points in the house

I added something called "AI Danger Reaction Gunshots" and im not sure if that worked, but I increased the radius of all their waypoints and atleast 4 of them started moving through the house to get me

also they didn't phase through the walls, this is amazing lol

[solar shard]

@sullen talon The fog haze and godray entities are for the whole world, arent they?

thx

[late oyster]

can you elaborate where you access this? I assume it's in the trigger script but the only script from it I seem to be able to open is the AI spawn one

[sullen talon]

I am not, the trigger queries automatically. The entity is disabled after first spawn though

[late oyster]

so is the trigger entity itself a script?

like you said it needs custom logic to check for players

[sullen talon]

Yes, some of it. It's an entity, check the hierarchy of inheritance or find BaseTriggerEntity in the Create tab.

[narrow latch]

yeah, not sure what's determining whether AI will respond to gunfire or not, one of the guys actually left the building to look for me

he was looking on the wrong side but I can't say I wasn't surprised when he came from outside the building to get me

[late oyster]

I can find it in the create tab but there's nothing I can do from there

[narrow latch]

as a CQB thing, it's way better than we've got in arma previously, but some fine control would be rad lol

[late oyster]

I can't tell what the trigger actually is, it's a prefab but the base of the prefab that has all the settings isn't a script itself?

or at least I can't view it in any way

it's a prefab but opening it in the main window just shows an empty view

[solar shard]

You have to add the component to it

[late oyster]

if I open it in the world editor then I still don't see what to edit

[torpid plinth]

did the whole "need to publish mod to see custom scenario in the game" issue get resolved?

[sullen talon]

Aw, you are opening it in bad view. Right click and edit prefab or drag it into world to inspect it fully

[sullen talon]

See pins

[late oyster]

yeah I did that now but there's still not much more there

[torpid plinth]

ah, cool

[sullen talon]

You should see the entity and its properties in the right side of the screen? Check pin on prefabs

[late oyster]

the properties are there yeah

but I mean how do I edit its script to for example have a different query

[sullen talon]

Make your own prefab! Drag the scr trigger from create tab to world, add necessary components and then re-drag it to the resource browser. See pin 📌

[narrow latch]

hmm, it's on average it's the same AI that move around and the same AI that don't but sometimes it's a bit random

which is kinda awesome

[late oyster]

so would the component be something like a script that checks for any AI in an area or something

[sullen talon]

Somewhat, but I will not be able to assist you much unless you understand the concept of entity-component system and object oriented peogramming much, I am afraid. It's very similar to Unreal and Unity

[late oyster]

I think I sorta get it

[mental cove]

I am having trouble adding a custom script to my prefab, when I click add component I doesnt appear, do I need to import it in a specific way?

[late oyster]

but I don't know enough about the scripting yet to be able to set that up

[narrow latch]

other than the AI reaction time, it's so gud 😩

[sullen talon]

The component? Its Class must have ComponentEditorProps, answered in scripting

[solar shard]

can you tell me the filter class for players? I just figured out, that, ofcourse, the trigger fires also when a static group is inside

[sullen talon]

Player would be a ChimeraCharacter, just like AI. You will need to filter this yourself.

GetGame().GetPlayerManager().

Check the controlled entity api that returns player id. If its less or equal to 0 its not a player.

[sullen talon]

Scroll through example mods, samples, the channels here, imo you're gonna get a lot of info real fast ;)

[solar shard]

this makes actual sense. Thank you!

[narrow latch]

how do I mess with day night settings stuff?

[nocturne mist]

Does anyone know how to place map markers?

[solar shard]

Time and weather manager

[exotic reef]

if you extend the ScriptComponent class, your script should be automatically registered as a component after compiling

something like this

[narrow latch]

that a thing I gotta add? or something in the map?

[solar shard]

thats an prefab entity

just search for "weather" and you will find it in no time

[narrow latch]

do I need to make a instance of it or something? or just start editing

[mental cove]

hmm I have done this, as well as use componentEditorProps.

[solar shard]

@sullen talon your stuff works flawless. Next stop, check if a vehicle is not alive. As said, a specific variable I guess?

I just uploaded the nightops sample map with the implemented trigger including finishing the scenario. awesome

[lament violet]

Probably a silly question. But what is going wrong here since I get null exception. Looking at debug it seems like the instances exists, and while it might have 0 entities, should it not just return a set of 0. It seems like its the GetEntities that has null pointer.

SCRIPT    (E): NULL pointer to instance
Class:      'SCR_DestroyedEditableEntityFilter'
Function: 'GetEntities'

With the code (minimal example):

SCR_EntitiesManagerEditorComponent entitiesManager = SCR_EntitiesManagerEditorComponent.Cast(SCR_EntitiesManagerEditorComponent.GetInstance(SCR_EntitiesManagerEditorComponent, true));

SCR_DestroyedEditableEntityFilter deadManager = SCR_DestroyedEditableEntityFilter.Cast(entitiesManager.GetFilter(EEditableEntityState.DESTROYED));

set<SCR_EditableEntityComponent> deadEntities;
deadManager.GetEntities(deadEntities);

[solar shard]

@sullen talon did you place this default briefing in the gamemanager? I cant find it actually

[proper chasm]

Is there a way of identifying a player with a ID that can be saved for later use? I don't mean the playerId variable, but for like a longer identifier for the player. So for example if a player joins the game, I can save information about him, and when he leaves, and joins back, those information are not lost.

[exotic reef]

have you tried initializing the set before passing it. idk just a guess

[narrow latch]

I've spawned a lamp, is there a way to turn it's light on in the editor?

[sullen talon]

Damage manager or EventHandlers OnDestroyed. Check its docu it was linked here.

[sullen talon]

Its on the gamemode on the briefing component

[sullen talon]

If not, you can create an editor context action.

[late oyster]

how would I move your coop gamemode prefab into my own project?

in a different world

[lament violet]

that does make sense. Let me figure out how you initalize a set. I (naively) thought it would be usable when declared like so on the stack.

[solar shard]

so I add a new baseeventhanler in the eventhandlercomponent and put a SCR_BaseGameMode gm = SCR_BaseGameMode.Cast(GetGame().GetGameMode()); inside? no way. I miss something

[sullen talon]

No, no - a vehicle has a EventHandler, you can hook on it

[solar shard]

yeah thats what I mnt wth eventhandlercomponent.

[solar shard]

I see the eventhandlercomponent in the vehicle. with baseeventhandler

[zinc wharf]

@sullen talon I have successfully tested my project locally using the information you provided earlier, thank you!

My next issue is, how can I load that local scenario into my dedicated server for others to play.

Hopefully this does not require the scenario to be published, and hopefully the server will serve the required scenario to connecting players.

I tried using the 'addons' command, but you cannot use 'addons' and 'config' together. The 'mod' section in the server config only seems to be for 'published' addons.

Any advice?

[lament violet]

That was exactly that. My c++ background the cheats me with the "new" syntax from c# 😄
Thanks a lot!

[sullen talon]

Publish it and use the server docu on wiki

[zinc wharf]

can you do this with an unlisted publish?

[sullen talon]

I don't know

[torpid tundra]

It is a bloody ball ache even even loading everon on the editor let alone using this editor is absolutely impossible for an A3 eden Veteran.

This is not user friendly compared to eden why change something that was not broken! Why bohemia...

[zinc wharf]

ok, so there is no way to just host a custom scenario without it being published (in one form or another)?

[solar shard]

still cant figure out what you mean with "hook on it"

[torpid tundra]

I should not have to scroll through pages of documentation to find out how to place a unit.. that alone shows its not user friendly

[zinc wharf]

Surely the workshop is going to be oversaturated with peoples test projects and personal missions?

[solar shard]

its not userfriendly. Its a whole sdk for developers and mod enthusiasts. Sure, the simple mission editing is not there yet, but instead we can finally achieve total conversions in a totally different manner. Im fine with that.

[torpid tundra]

But what about those who enjoyed going on the editor for half an hour making a mission for 4 of his friends

I got 3.2k hours doing that

[rigid axle]

I'm assuming/hoping it's still coming but just isn't release yet

[torpid tundra]

Yeah me too my toes are crossed lol

[solar shard]

Im looking forward too but I doubt at this point. This is an early access program and a modding platform. Maybe its coming, maybe its coming with Arma 4 in some years.

[rigid axle]

Would be really weird to go through all that trouble to make the game more intuitive and then make THE unique selling point incredibly hard to access

[wispy sky]

seeing a new navmesh, may be late to the party but is it an experimental fix for AI or something else?

[rigid axle]

Hopefully in reforger so some feedback makes it way into Arma 4 editor

[torpid tundra]

Yeah I'd be fine if it was on A4 only I have Arma 3 to itch my editor needs

I'd probably assume A4 to be fair

[solar shard]

fair enough. I have several open arma 3 projects right now but its just awesome to be on reforger too in this early stage

(early stage for us consumers)

[odd perch]

@sullen talon Hi, just looking through the sample coop test and I am having trouble transfering it to eden. When I do I just spawn in the sea without the briefing window. Honestly I cannot see what I am missing

[dawn venture]

If you wait a couple of days/weeks. 10 hours learning from tutorials can set you up for 1000's of hours to come. Edit @torpid tundra

[narrow latch]

Question, do you need to own reforger to mod reforger?

asking for a friend

[torpid tundra]

Yea once the guides come out it will help

[zinc wharf]

anyone had this when trying to publish?

BACKEND   (E): [RestApi] ID:[10] Error Code:401 - Unauthorized, ApiCode:
DEFAULT   (E): Uploading failed! Reason: "Unauthorized"
RESOURCES (E): Publishing failed

its ok, i relogged and it worked

So, when you have published an addon, how do you manage it?

How do you remove it for example?

[solar shard]

removing or pubishing to other platforms (xbox) is the one thing I couldnt figure out 😄

[slow thicket]

Im still trying to figure out how to publish to console. I can see my demo scenerio in the pc Workshop but not on xbox

[torpid tundra]

Zeal make a guide 😉👀😬😬

[sullen talon]

Just copy over the game mode and stuff, ideally 1:1. Make a screenshot and compare ;P Make sure you are using proper prefabs

[slow thicket]

I lied. It looks like it did upload to console. huh

[odd perch]

@sullen talon does layer structure matter and naming?

[sullen talon]

Shouldn't, just make sure you didn't miss anything!

[zinc wharf]

@sullen talon, where do we manage our published addons?

Is there somewhere to 'remove' addons from the workshop - also where do we get the modId for the server config?

"modId": "abcd3995-b1d9-473d-aa11-0836c0a595ad",
"name": "WeaponSwitching",
"version": "1.0.1"

The above is taken from the Wiki example.

[cedar ivy]

Anybody managed to get the spawn radius on spawn points to work?

[sullen talon]

In your mod package should be something like ServerData.json or similar, there is bunch of DS dedicated info

[sullen talon]

I think those are bork. Try using the editable ones, those seem quite legit.

[mental cove]

I am trying to implement some custom logic for trigger activation, I have made a new prefab importing from SCR_BaseTriggerEntity, and I think I have to overwrite the ScriptedEntityFilterForQuery function, but im not exactly sure where put this, since the SCR_BaseTriggerEntity is still read only

[narrow latch]

how so?

[zinc wharf]

Sorry, maybe I am being stupid but, where is the mod package?

Do you mean the project or the bundle?

[sullen talon]

Documents/..../Addons, as for the the addon downloaded from workshop or in the bundle otherwise, yes

[zinc wharf]

OK and what about 'unpublishing' addons? Is that possible yet?

[odd perch]

@sullen talon yep definetly just getting dumped in the sea. I have the correct prefabs, should the game still load the briefing if I just have the game mode as its not even showing the briefing window

thanks btw

[west karma]

For missions to appear in Scenarios (not published missions) do they need to be anywhere specific?

Nvm found the pin

[zinc wharf]

I don't want to publish my scenario publicly yet, if there is no way to remove it...

OK so I have published my scenario 'privately' but there is no interface for accessing it, workshop or in game.

[barren heart]

In the filters in workshop try ticking testing. I think that allowed me to see my private and testing projects.

[remote magnet]

Has anyone found the commands to spawn units

[mental cove]

could anyone point me to where the trigger condition is evaluated in code. Im still not exactly sure where i need to put my custom logic

[west karma]

OK that didn't work, do I have to do anything special to get a scenario into the game locally? Both my test and the Sample COOP mission don't appear 😦

[odd perch]

@sullen talon thanks for your help, I figured out it was something I added to the file that caused the briefing to break... no idea what however

[late oyster]

why can I not delete components from a prefab I made? I was able to delete them when I was making it, but when I then made it into a prefab, if I open that again then I can't delete any

I had a co-op gamemode prefab but somehow the editor decided to just randomly change what's in it and now I can't fix it

"delete component" is just greyed out

[narrow latch]

is there fog?

[late oyster]

oh nvm it's because it was a prefab inside my prefab that I was trying to edit

but I can't break it either? if I break the prefab instance, it doesn't save

so how do I make a prefab that's an edited version of an existing prefab?

[static prawn]

duplicate it

[late oyster]

I got it now, it was just kind of a weird sequence of duplicating it, opening it, breaking it, then dragging it to browser

[west karma]

Are there any requirements for the Preview Image for the mod? I've got an image in the addon folder but it's still not working

[neat wadi]

the mission header preview?

[west karma]

Yeah

Bit of a frustrating requirement!

DEFAULT   (E): Cannot copy image: 
RESOURCES (E): Creating bundle failed```

Every time

[neat wadi]

I had trouble with it too so I used one from a sample mod which ended up working, it's 922 x 575

so probably some file size or image dimension problem which it doesnt tell you about :/

[solar shard]

576x324 is what I used since the CAH mod example does so

[west karma]

Wonder if there is a filesize limit

[lime stratus]

see pinned messages

[neat wadi]

oh right it needs to be in your mod's subfolders, too @west karma

[west karma]

Tried, it still failed

[lime stratus]

all 3 images in the config?

[west karma]

See previous message
#enfusion_scenario message

[lime stratus]

I deduced that issue yesterday to referencing base game images, and as they are write protected, that goes breaky.
But if moving them all into your own addon, and referencing them from there, that fixed it

For all 3 images

[west karma]

There aren't 3 images, there's Preview Image and Screenshots but it's not demanding screenshots.

Or do you meant he two in the header as well?

So the defaults don't work?

[solar shard]

Asking the real questions :when do we get the MI helicopter from the BI sample assets preview-image

[neat wadi]

they dont, probably because theyre in the game files

[west karma]

Clear as mud

[neat wadi]

@west karma I just put the same image into icon, loading screen and preview 🙂

[west karma]

Hm but my folder isn't coming up on the Browse

[lime stratus]

icon also

[lime stratus]

I mean only the one inside the header config

[west karma]

Do they need to be .edds?

[lime stratus]

Thats what the error message means by

mission config

[neat wadi]

make sure nothing is in thr search bar, also looking at it now, it only shows edds files yea

[lime stratus]

I think so.
What i did was drag&drop a png file into my mod, it automatically converted to edds, and I referenced that edds file in all 3 entries in the config, then it worked

[west karma]

Right ok

Yeah used the import button

Damn nothing about this is intuitive

ArmA 4 please have mission editor

Pls

Thank ye @lime stratus @neat wadi

[narrow latch]

so how do I get the faction selection menu to show up when I hit play?

[west karma]

The preview image .png also needs to be in your mission folder 🥲

Well after all that the tutorial is updated with publishing 🙂

[narrow latch]

halp?

[analog dock]

Try placing down a CampaignFactionManager I guess

the GM_Eden map has everything required otherwise

[narrow latch]

isn't campaign conflict?

hmm can the faction menu actually open from the editor?

[late oyster]

is there a way to place down the composition prefabs to properly fit the ground, like the ones you can place on slots in GM?

if you place one in the editor all the objects are flat and don't snap to the terrain

[narrow latch]

try right clicking and snap to ground and orient normal

[late oyster]

that only does it for the root of the prefab

[narrow latch]

what if you click drag select everything in the prefab?

[late oyster]

that makes it even worse, a bunch of it doesn't snap at all and is floating and it also breaks the arrangement of everything

[narrow latch]

that's spooky

So when I go to my workshop thingy, my project is 0kb and nothing shows up?

[late oyster]

it would be nice if there was a way to place compositions in the editor in the same way they're placed in GM

[mental cove]

Is there anyway to return a list of objects in a trigger, I am attempting to use the GetEntitiesInside function from BaseGameTriggerEntity class but it just returns an empty array

[zinc wharf]

anyone know how to access an addon published as 'private'?

although I am the owner, I cannot seem to see it in the workshop

[analog dock]

You should see it under "Downloaded"

[zinc wharf]

its not there

i was informed of the 'test' filter, but i want to keep my scenario private for the time being

[narrow latch]

anyone know why my Addon/Scenarios might not be loading? workshop says they're all 0kb even though they're not

[west karma]

Are they on workshop? I published mine as test instead

[zinc wharf]

ok so i published as 'test' and that has shown up ok in the workshop

how the hell do you 'unpublish' that addon now, or is it there forever - seems like the workshop will become full of unwanted projects?

[lean scroll]

how u guys moving in world editor? hold right click and use wasd?

[west karma]

Just WASD to move the camera, scroll wheel to adjust speed

[zinc wharf]

@sullen talon are the GUID and modId the same thing?

[lean scroll]

its not worknig for me, any option should i check?

[zinc wharf]

for example, when I open up the ServerData.json for my addon, the id is the same as the GUID in workbench

[west karma]

Try clicking where it says camera at the top and fiddling with those settings? Idk

[zinc wharf]

does not look like the wiki example however

[lean scroll]

thanks btw, i checked that before, nothing wasd there!

[west karma]

=[

[final anvil]

Anyone found the component that manages scenario player group size?

[slow thicket]

I just uploaded a scenario called King of the Hill AI. If anyone gives it a try feel free to ping me with feedback. I'm expecting some issues. Thanks to ex0's example I figured out how to get respawning AI

[final anvil]

Sweet, will give it a try soon.

[narrow path]

has anyone found a faction manager for the FIA?

[final anvil]

IIRC it comes in a few prefabs.

[narrow path]

its in the GM_Eden > GameMode_GameMaster > FactionManager_Editor_1

[zinc wharf]

ok so, i was able to host my scenario 'unlisted' on my dedicated server with no issue + it did not show up in the workshop which is great

[final anvil]

hmm

[zinc wharf]

once people have visit the server they have access to the files still, does not stop them creating a edited version and reuploading

but i guess thats the 'community' part

[final anvil]

yeah

[narrow path]

it has been the same with previous arma titles aswell

[zinc wharf]

that is true, but its more obvious now

[final anvil]

How did you put it on your server without uploading it?

[zinc wharf]

i did upload it

first i tried 'private'

that was not visible, even to me (i am the owner)

[final anvil]

epic

[zinc wharf]

then i tried 'test', that was visible to anyone with 'test' turned on in the filters

not ideal

[final anvil]

I noticed some modes have very high squad sizes. Has anyone figured out how to change that?

[zinc wharf]

but hosted fine

[final anvil]

huh, weird

[zinc wharf]

how so?

works as intended

but finally, i tried 'unlisted'

[final anvil]

well, never seen test

i only saw unlisted and private!

[zinc wharf]

not visible in workshop, but server was able to download no problem

so, looks like unlisted is the way to go

stops people just downloading your missions off the workshop without even visiting your server

[final anvil]

ah ok

How do you open downloaded workshop items in the tools?

Like C&H

wait, I remember seeing a guide on something similar

[zinc wharf]

you must create a new project using the addon as a dependency

[warm python]

is it possible to disable the camera speed mousewheelbinding? Very annyoing... (in the world editor)

[final anvil]

ah okay.

well, in any case... has anyone figured out how to retexture signs or anything through the world editor?

[zinc wharf]

another thing to note

when you upload a bundle, the previous version (i believe) is overwritten

so if you uploaded as test with 0.0.1 (for example)

[warm python]

I guess just linking the path is mainly it?

[zinc wharf]

and you then uploaded as 0.0.2 private, the original 0.0.1 is no longer accessible on workshop

[final anvil]

gotcha

[zinc wharf]

so you do have some form of control of addon visibility

[narrow path]

am i being dumb or can i not download Ex0's coop sameple file from github?

[zinc wharf]

but so far, looks like you cannot remove an addon from the workshop, other than making it private

[slow thicket]

So after updating my scenario I noticed two weird things. First even though I updated it I needed to delete it then download it again for it to actually update. Second the weather/ time of day keeps reseting

[manic cloak]

How do you even create your own scenario with a map. I can't do it myself

[warm python]

I hadn't the first mentioned problem but with the second I would say that your mission is owning a Module for handling the inGame Time, which is constantly overwriting your changes.

[final anvil]

Hmm. Can't figure out this group tihng, will have to figure it out a different time.

[slow thicket]

What do you mean? Like a prefab?

[sullen talon]

Check C&H or COOP. These have quite minimal game mode setup, you can get inspired there.

[sullen talon]

If you open your addon.gproj - in this case C&H as an example

 ID "CaptureAndHold" <- This is the mod id
 GUID "591AF5BDA9F7CE8B" <- This is the GUID
 TITLE "Capture & Hold" <- This is the name
 Dependencies { <- This is GUID of mods it depends on
  "58D0FB3206B6F859"
 }```

[sullen talon]

What kind of scenario are you making?

[zinc wharf]

Funny but I actually ended up using the GUID in the server config, it downloaded fine and my friends were able to access the mod also

[sullen talon]

Because for example in Capture&Hold there is a component on the game mode that sets the time & weather.

[sullen talon]

👀 That's confusing, maybe we can mention it in the doc @foggy cairn ?

[zinc wharf]

"mods": [
    {
      "modId": "59332B9FE5539A29",
      "name": "Test Addon",
      "version": "0.0.6"
    }        
  ]

here is a modified example

that worked ok with 'test' and 'unlisted'

[sullen talon]

Yeah it sounds about right and makes sense, just the naming is inconsistent and confusing 🙂

[sullen talon]

Also TimeAndWeatherManager entity in the world can be the cause - check the initial settings there

[narrow latch]

My mission don't show up in the scenario editor

Does the mission header file need to be in the missions folder?

[sullen talon]

See pinned messages.

[sullen talon]

Yes!

[narrow latch]

because that causes an error when bundling

[sullen talon]

See pinned messages 😄

[narrow latch]

there are many pinned messages =(

[narrow path]

So if i understand this correctly, a prefab is just a collection of other objects that i have made or is already present in game data right? If so that means i could use Exo's coop gamemode in a mission and anyone wanting to play the mission wouldnt have to also download the sample mission?

[zinc wharf]

@sullen talon, i don't suppose you know why my addon published 'private' was not visible to me in the workshop?

[sullen talon]

Do you have your account linked to the BI one? But I don't know regarding this one 🤔

[zinc wharf]

hmm, maybe not

how do i got about linking my steam account to the bohemia one?

[narrow latch]

did the thing the pinned messages said, still bundle error =(

nvm got it

[zinc wharf]

when i log in via the game, it shows my steam name rather than my bohemia account name

@sullen talon when you say linked, do you mean bohemia account linked with steam?

i can confirm my steam account is linked

[narrow latch]

Scenario still doesn't show up =D lol

[sullen talon]

Then I don't know 😦

[zinc wharf]

no problem

@sullen talon, maybe you can answer this one - everytime you upload a bundle, does it override the previous version?

[dusty pike]

enfusion seems to crash as soon as I place down an XOB or an SCR_AIWorld.ent

doing something wrong or is it a bug?

[sullen talon]

EDIT: 🤔

[zinc wharf]

is that a yes?

[sullen talon]

Actually, I believe it is versioned - the new version is on workshop and the previous ones are not available directly, but you can still host a server with older version if referencing that version... 🤔

[zinc wharf]

ahh ok

[worthy glade]

Herbiie started a great guide https://github.com/Herbiie/ArmAReforgerMissionMakingGuide/wiki/ArmA-Reforger-Mission-Making---Getting-Started

[zinc wharf]

do you know about plans for cleaning up old versions?

there must be a system in place for cleaning up old versions right?
@sullen talon

[narrow latch]

oh, it doesn't show up in scenarios but I can play it from the actual addon it self

[sullen talon]

perception is to do with seeing things and hitreg
Perception is for AI to perceive things (duh! :D)
Hitreg is multiplayer hit registration/compensation because the server is authoritative

[dusty pike]

was following that guide but I'm stuck at the AI part

[wheat valve]

how do you set win/loss conditions on missions?

[torpid tundra]

this is what i mean when i say eden was a lot easier to use lol... you did not need pages of this to do the most simple mission.

The time it took me to place 1 unit, i was able to make a mission in eden

[narrow latch]

ima trya get spawning to work, herbies guide uses a force faction method but apparently that's just for testing

no idea what the normal way is

[torpid tundra]

i just dont understand why they changed it all eden worked fine

[narrow path]

I think this is just for reforger i cant imagine them sticking with this method for A4

[torpid tundra]

we can hope lol

[narrow path]

remeber this is simply a mas test bed for the new engine

[torpid tundra]

true

[narrow latch]

There will probably be a Eden Equivalent

[torpid tundra]

i gotta keep reminding myself this lol

[narrow path]

plus going from eden to this, is a massive change, its always gunna be a bit jarring once u learn it, itll be natural

[narrow latch]

this SDK is great though for when you wanna really have control over the game

The Workbench is equivalent to Unity

you could make any game lol

[torpid tundra]

it feels like this is designed for people who are already pros lol

[solid timber]

based on my digging around in the files, i think it will be fairly viable to release mission quickstart "packs" which have prefabs and scripts set up that skip all the tedium and add features we expect from an arma mission editor. it won't ever be eden, but its not really meant to be (i think we can all agree we still want something like eden down the road)

[torpid tundra]

but yeh your right im sure eventually there will be an eden equilivant

[narrow latch]

Yeah, it's great, but for the end user is a little more difficult than expected

But at the same time, a lot more simple if you're trying to do something complex

[solid timber]

simple things like objective markers appear to be scripted functionality in BI's missions, which seems bizarre, but when you think about it, all markers are in arma 3 are a script that has been turned into a prefab we can use in eden 😄

[analog dock]

Started doing pretty much the thing you described, posted the github link earlier

[torpid tundra]

im sure we will be having a completely different conversation in 2 years or so lol

[wheat valve]

lowkey this program is way more powerful than eden, i hope it stays.

[narrow latch]

oh they won't be getting rid of this

[solid timber]

brilliant! I plan on taking a look at creating a generic marker prefab on the weekend, if not tonight

SCR_MapDescriptor seems like the right starting point, but it doesn't work like the markers in CAH or the tutorial

which are all configured in various scripts

[analog dock]

Still got a long way to go with that though, also not entirely sure if I should just upload it publicly to the workshop or just leave it to the addon creator. I believe there would be a lot of confusion with players who just want to download more content ^^

[solid timber]

haha there are a lot of non-functional uploads with "test" in their name

its a pretty wonky system tbh

[analog dock]

For now uploading it unlisted to the workshop is the easiest way to get the dependencies running

[solid timber]

i dont know if in-game mod downloaders have ever really been a good idea

at least not for a game like arma

[analog dock]

I guess it's something they added since they had to use their own workshop anyways

[solid timber]

it feels a bit like catering to the console crowd, which i think is really nice, but also skyrim and fallout shows us that basically nobody on PC wants to use that nonsense 😄

[zinc wharf]

@sullen talon, just did some testing regarding the versioning we discussed.

I pointed my dedicated server to a few different old versions, the server had no trouble loading the addons (even the versions that were at the time 'private') but when I tried to connect (with no addons downloaded) I would get a generic error instead of the usual 'confirm download' panel.

After changing the version back to the latest, everything works fine again - so yes there must be some form of versioning, but it seems flawed right now. I could upload an update to my addon and potentially break peoples servers (those using my addon)?

Just reporting my findings, in-case it needs investigating.

[final anvil]

anyone find out how to change squad size?

i believe I found out how to change textures but my problem is that its read only.

[analog dock]

You mean players or AI units?

[final anvil]

players

trying to raise it to 10

🙂

[analog dock]

Let me check

[final anvil]

I really appreciate that, thanks!

[narrow latch]

ah okay, so the faction choosing screen is controlled by the game mode prefab

[final anvil]

yep

[narrow latch]

but what in the game mode prefab does it?

otherwise im a floating camera

[sullen talon]

AutomaticRespawnHandler -> MenuRespawnHandler

[narrow latch]

[round goblet]

@torpid tundra Eden like editor is not just present yet. World Editor is not replacement of Eden per my understanding.

[lean scroll]

I am curious if you don't mind me asking - So you put the mods in the json what about the start-up parameters?

[analog dock]

What size is it currently on? 6?

[final anvil]

8

[analog dock]

there's no start up parameters for mods with Reforger

[lean scroll]

That is awesome

[analog dock]

Only a .json configuration file

[lean scroll]

SO the modID is the only thing and that can be found in my documents for each addon?

[torpid tundra]

RIP majority of the mission making community then

[lean scroll]

Are any mods server side or client side?

[lean scroll]

Thank you for your help

[analog dock]

Here's further info https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:Server_Hosting

[lean scroll]

So no mods are technically are on the server side anymore?

Like in A3?

[narrow latch]

hmm do I have to do something with the mode prefab? cause I placed it, and still spawn in ocean

[solid timber]

you should expect dynamic stuff like liberation/arma life/patrol ops/etc to actually hit the workshop faster than it would have otherwise - these tools make those sorts of things a lot easier than screwing about in text files as it is for arma 2/3. its the cool bespoke coop missions that will probably suffer 😦

[round goblet]

Why RIP? That can just come later. This is early access.

[torpid tundra]

thats true but this looks so much harder to learn 😦

[solid timber]

it is, definitely. that comes with it being powerful

[narrow path]

@sullen talon Im using your CoopSample mission as a starting point ive copied all your managers and gamemodes in to a fresh mission project, and copied the scripts and prefabs folders and yet when i put it all together it spawns me as a camera in the corner of the map, what could cause this if u know?

[solid timber]

its not even "like" a game engine editor a la unity or unreal... it is that 😄

[torpid tundra]

liberation will be sweeeet

[final anvil]

whats the default one? i've only seen 8.

[analog dock]

I have no clue, didn't play too much on the official servers

[zinc wharf]

@lean scroll what do you want to know?

[lean scroll]

I am curious if this is correct and thank you for your help ahead of time

    },
    "mods": [
        {
            "modId": "5966F659AFDFDB88",
            "name": "Better Recoil",
            "version": "1.0.0"
        },
        {
            "modId": "59651354B2904BA6",
            "name": "Better Hits Effects",
            "version": "1.3.3"
        },
        {   
            "modId": "59637B20CAA089C9",
            "name": "GAU-5 Carbine",
            "version": "1.0.0"
        },
        {   
            "modId": "59669B62DD107269",
            "name": "M1911 - BLUFOR",
            "version": "1.00"
        }
    ]
}

}

[zinc wharf]

yes that looks correct

[lean scroll]

server dies everytime

[zinc wharf]

how are your mods published?

[lean scroll]

they seem all public

[zinc wharf]

ok the names might be incorrect, because they have special characters

[final anvil]

oh okay fair enough. hopefully we can figure out the group size and stuff like that.

[lean scroll]

ah so the names have to be the exact same even with the ModID?

[zinc wharf]

look in the addons folder and find the ServerData.json

there will be the name + id

not sure if '-' is a special character

but i would trouble shoot each mod

try loading one after the other

[lean scroll]

With my client?

[zinc wharf]

no, i mean - only include one mod at a time in the server config

[lean scroll]

Okay I found it

Oh I see

yeah thank you

[zinc wharf]

see which one kills the server and take a snapshot before it dies

it will tell you why

[lean scroll]

Also how do I hold the console up so it does not close itself upon death?

[analog dock]

First guess is replacing the AI Group inside of the Faction Manager with your own custom 10 unit prefab

[lean scroll]

It just closes immediately

[zinc wharf]

there is an old command you can add to a bat file

but you will have to google

[lean scroll]

WOOPS

@ echo off - ?

[zinc wharf]

can't remember

there is a command that stops windows auto closing on error

[lean scroll]

Alrighty I'll look for it was hopin to jog your memory

yeah

thanks again

[zinc wharf]

no problem

[analog dock]

There's logs under Documents\MyGames\ArmaReforger

[final anvil]

hmmm. interesting, you could do that with AI but not surea bout players

[lean scroll]

Thank you forgot about that

[analog dock]

Maybe it pulls squad size from AI squad size

[final anvil]

true. is that under faction manager?

[zinc wharf]

and yes, it seems like there is no such thing as local hosted assets

for servers

[final anvil]

i only saw things like callsign info and arsenal presets.

[analog dock]

Yup, each faction manager faction has it's own AI Group prefab assigned

[final anvil]

Is it under Object Properties?

[analog dock]

yup

[final anvil]

as a component or like unsorted

[analog dock]

unsorted

it's a huge hierarchy that takes a bit to navigate, but once you find the individual faction you should be able to find the ai groups property easily

[final anvil]

Visual Identity? Pretty sure that's not it, but I checked through the rest of the options extensively.

[analog dock]

nope

Are you using a CampaignFactionManager?

[narrow latch]

I figured it out =D, now my respawn point isn't working lol

I can click on it and click deploy but nothing happens

[final anvil]

No, using SCR_FactionManager

from the GameMaster full gamemode

[analog dock]

Yea the CampaignFactionManager has alot more properties

You can spawn one into your active layer to overwrite the standard Faction manager

atleast I hope it overwrites it lol

[narrow path]

@sullen talon Just a heads up, the coop sample mission file that u have on github, when downloaded from github, the CoopGameMode prefab is missing the SCR_RespawnMenuHandler if you copy from the mission file to a new one

[narrow latch]

What in the game mode prefabs determine what factions show up? I only want US to show up

[narrow path]

the faction manager determines that

[narrow latch]

ah

[lean scroll]

This method worked first one I tested it was the M1911 - BLUFOR

Thanks again

[analog dock]

You have a checkbox in each faction determining if the faction is playable or not

[narrow latch]

how do I remove a faction? the minus is greyed out

Ah

Thank you

so now my spawn point still isn't working, it's on the map, I can click it, I can hit deploy

nothin happens

[analog dock]

did you get a pop up with an error?

You would have to ignore that first

[narrow path]

check ur gamemode for to see if it has a SCR_RespawnMenuHandler in object properties

[narrow latch]

it needs that in general otherwise the menu doesn't show up at all

[analog dock]

I don't have it and everything works 🤣

[narrow latch]

[analog dock]

hah found it inside of the gamemaster

@final anvil found it!

[final anvil]

oop

[analog dock]

Atleast for GM_Eden

Inside of the GM there's the SCR_GroupsManagerComponent, which has the default group prefab

You can modify that prefab, which has the max player count as a property

or rather max member count

[worthy glade]

in ex0's sample coop, did he custom make the coop game mode?

[narrow latch]

yeah

[final anvil]

oh sweet, how so?

[worthy glade]

what a badass

[final anvil]

wait nvm

edit prefab lo

[narrow latch]

yis

[worthy glade]

edit prefab?

[analog dock]

add your own

[worthy glade]

what do

[analog dock]

You can duplicate or overwrite it in your addon

[spark lynx]

How do you get your scenario to appear in the scenarios list?

[analog dock]

overwriting will result in you not having to change every Groupsmanager component

[worthy glade]

groupsmanager component eh

[analog dock]

If you use GM_Eden the SCR_GroupsManagerComponent is inside of the GM

[final anvil]

ah gotcha

i can also make my own in my mod file

[analog dock]

if you don't already have one, possibly

Have no way of checking it

atleast not atm

[worthy glade]

what is GM_Eden

[analog dock]

GameMaster Eden

[narrow latch]

unrelated but soldiers have unique bodies?

[analog dock]

one of Reforgers default Scenarios

[narrow latch]

Fat soldiers here I come

[final anvil]

is anyone else having trouble logging into their BI account to publish their work

Identity authentication failed - Error Code=404

[spark lynx]

yeah I just had to restart+try again serveral times

[final anvil]

this is what I get

rog

ty

[spark lynx]

and it says you're logged in but you actually aren't

so press logout again

it's weird

[final anvil]

restart pc time

[analog dock]

You can start of with this guide by @west karma https://github.com/Herbiie/ArmAReforgerMissionMakingGuide/wiki/ArmA-Reforger-Mission-Making---Getting-Started

Very useful resource from what I could tell

[narrow latch]

okay well using the team deathmatch prefab made my spawn point work

[analog dock]

Also important to note that you need to assign sides to player spawn points

[worthy glade]

went through it all so far, i pasted it above 30m ago

[narrow latch]

I did

[analog dock]

for some reason those are Strings

[worthy glade]

where did ex0 get his triggers from

[narrow latch]

made em im guessing

[worthy glade]

from scratch?

or taken from an existing and modified

[analog dock]

You have a "Create" tab below the scene explorer in World Editor @worthy glade

You can just search for Trigger in there

Or look through the prefabs under resources

[wheat valve]

how do you set win/loss conditions? my mission instantly ends when you kill the first squad.

[narrow latch]

can you edits a groups positioning?

[worthy glade]

im trying to look for this too, let me know if you find it

i see options in the triggers themselves to 'end when all ai dead' but they are unchecked

[sullen talon]

I might have done some woopsie

[worthy glade]

haha noooo

[sullen talon]

Lemme check real fast

[worthy glade]

you are making this really interesting anyway, thanks for all the support

i cant tell where things came from if you copied and renamed an existing prefab

probably for good reason but i have a knowledge gap to fill

[sullen talon]

I am a le stupid, I forgot to use the boolean anywhere in the scripts. Lemao.

[worthy glade]

i dont know what that is

im gonna watch fodder's video.. but damn i much prefer written format

[mystic kestrel]

https://youtu.be/nc9oThUL7IE

[sullen talon]

**⚠ Fixed the pesky issue in coop scenario example where any trigger would trigger the end game screen in **
https://github.com/exocs/Reforger-Sample-Coop/commit/f3d73780505b0d70c9996540d89f0349eeca916d

• added comments for clarity to scenario in
  https://github.com/exocs/Reforger-Sample-Coop/commit/232e1f8d265da1b249fc5ea4070c418108e8403e

[narrow latch]

So, the AI only respond to seeing the player, but gunshots don't seem to rile em up to much

[worthy glade]

how did you make the triggers exo?

[sullen talon]

👀

[sullen talon]

Check the example ;P

[worthy glade]

like i said, it looks like you have custom made prefabs

did you write these from your back pocket or did you import from another

i am very, very green

[sullen talon]

That is correct, just make your own ones

[sullen talon]

See this pin #enfusion_scenario message.

[worthy glade]

you and me, we speak different languages

im going to cry in the corner now

[narrow latch]

is there a way to make the AI react to gunfire? make them take cover n stuff?

or better yet, make them just take cover without the player having to do anything?

[torpid mural]

When you fire in the vicinity of the AI they should react to it if you've set your settings correctly if the fire came from a different faction

[narrow latch]

and what are these settings?

I mess around with these

sorry for double send

[torpid mural]

Here are some of the vital entities that I can remember for having a functioning AI
*AIWorld - To my undestanding generally takes care of navigation etc
*PerceptionManager - Takes care of AI Perception, it's in the name after all 😄
*FactionManager - Probably needed to seperate factions between AIs/player, who is friendly, who is enemy etc. idk

[narrow latch]

well perception manager seemed like the one, but it's only got line of sight stuff

[sullen talon]

The script component attached on the trigger prefab is scripted in the mod, you can take a look and reuse the code as desired 🙂

[torpid mural]

Those are the parameters that are exposed to the editor 🙂

[narrow latch]

I see nothin bout gun shot reacting

[final anvil]

still unable to login

to publish

[narrow latch]

they're on a defend waypoint, maybe that's causing the weird reactions

[final anvil]

gonna revalidate

[wheat valve]

awesome thanks exo, works great.

[narrow latch]

maybe they only react to stuff in the defend waypoint

[final anvil]

BACKEND   (E): Identity authentication failed - Error Code=401
BACKEND   (E): Error response: {"url":"/game-identity/api/v1.1/identities/reforger/auth","message":"ErrID: 2ebeff68-f29c-4a74-b594-b8a4350426a8: Authorization failed, check your token."}```

anyone else getting that?