enfusion_scripting

[torn bane]

I will ask if the person who made if they can update it to a functional example state with AR assets. What is your end goal with it? For what situations do you need a custom assortment in the preview world? To display it in a static GUI or do you need to update it constantly via render target?

[minor agate]

||You have to do a rain dance in game and spawn a black hole||

[open pier]

Do I have to do this to be able to troubleshoot replication?

[night harbor]

Anyone knows why my custom game mode does not have gamemaster on dedicated server but it does in play mode in world editor ? How can I fix this ?

[coarse pasture]

Make any progress on this? I'm running into a similar issue

Seem to be missing something on the SCR_MapJournalUI front and processing the faction info/changes

Reason: NULL pointer to instance. Variable 'm_wEntryLayout'

Discord no likey copy/paste

[dapper warren]

What is the best way to instantiate a global class in the server that keeps track of entities spawned by users?

[fringe prairie]

A system

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:Systems

[visual atlas]

bumping this; seems necessary for serverside verification to know where an rpc came from

qbq: game master server context actions have no way to tell which player performed them; im trying to make sure a gm has a particular set of permissions

a last resort is modifying actionperform rpc to include sender id but that's not very safe

i know an rpc must come from the owner.. so maybe in this particular case figuring out who the owner is?

[ocean kernel]

Yes, because the entity that the Rpc comes through on is owned by the player

For example if it's the player controller entity, you can simply fetch its player id on the server

If it's not the player controller entity.... use the player controller entity (or a component on it)

[visual atlas]

that makes sense ty

however in this case the rpc comes from SCR_BaseActionsEditorComponent and then on the server it calls action.Perform.. not sure how to find out the editor entity that called it from inside Perform

maybe that's the part i need to modify though

that components on SCR_EditorBaseEntity which is probably actually the EditorModeEntity.. didn't realize there was one per player replicated

[ocean kernel]

from SCR_BaseActionsEditorComponent you could look into GetManager().GetPlayerID() serverside

[visual atlas]

ooh yea and i see the action itself has a m_ActionsManager that is the BaseActionsEditorComponent

thanks!

[reef aurora]

scripts/Game/ACE_Medical/HitZone/SCR_CharacterResilienceHitZone.c:21 Function ComputeEffectiveDamage
scripts/Game/Damage/DamageEffects/CharacterDamageEffects/SCR_PhysicalHitZonesRegenDamageEffect.c:59 Function EOnFrame
18:24:32.645 SCRIPT (E): Virtual Machine Exception
Reason: NULL pointer to instance
Class: 'SCR_CharacterResilienceHitZone'
Function: 'ComputeEffectiveDamage' LITERALLY EVERY SECOND

[visual atlas]

this is what i ended up doing. m_ActionsManager wasn't always available but now i can GetPlayerID in Perform in any action

modded class SCR_BaseEditorAction
{
    SCR_BaseActionsEditorComponent m_LastCaller;
    
    void SetLastCaller(SCR_BaseActionsEditorComponent caller)
    {
        m_LastCaller = caller;
    }
    
    int GetPlayerID()
    {
        if (m_LastCaller)
            return m_LastCaller.GetManager().GetPlayerID();
        
        return 0;
    }
}

modded class SCR_BaseActionsEditorComponent
{
    override protected void ActionPerform(SCR_BaseEditorAction action, SCR_EditableEntityComponent hoveredEntityComponent, set<SCR_EditableEntityComponent> selectedEntityComponents, vector cursorWorldPosition, int flags, int param)
    {
        action.SetLastCaller(this);
        
        super.ActionPerform(action, hoveredEntityComponent, selectedEntityComponents, cursorWorldPosition, flags, param);
    }
}

[west prism]

How do you give the helicopter unlimited rockets?

[placid crag]

Hi, no unfortunately i was not able to solve the issue and dropped this idea at least until I get better at modding

[coarse pasture]

I’m pretty sure it’s a timing issue. I had to introduce a lengthy delay to get around it

[placid crag]

Oh, that sounds logical

As the problem is related to ui

[river imp]

Get on the ace discord and tell them.

[reef aurora]

surely they must know lol

[river imp]

Yeah, it's not like any of us would. Unless we made the mod or used it.

[craggy jolt]

Fresh day, fresh thoughts. Looks like you need dedicated RenderTargetWidget for this setup to work. ItemPreviewWidget seems to be hardcoded to work only with ItemPreviewManager.

Now trying to get RTTextureWidget to display anything

[coral sorrel]

I have a prefab weapon in the world and a script using EOnActivate (and print statement) which doesn't trigger the first time I pick it up or equip it from the ground. If I switch to another weapon and then back to it, it triggers. If I drop it on the ground after having previously picked it up, it will trigger EOnActivate without problem. Just seems to be that first pickup where its not popping EOnActivate. Any ideas on if thats common and if I can do something to resolve it? Thanks

[river imp]

[ComponentEditorProps(category: "GameScripted/Misc", description: "")]
class ZEL_OnActivateComponentClass : ScriptComponentClass{}

class ZEL_OnActivateComponent : ScriptComponent
{
    override void EOnActivate(IEntity owner)
    {
        super.EOnActivate(owner);
        Print("The Thing Activated");
    }
    
    override void EOnDeactivate(IEntity owner)
    {
         super.EOnDeactivate(owner);
        Print("The Thing Deactivated");
    }
}

Not sure what you've done but, this works correctly.

[dapper warren]

Having an issue with a Gadget Prefab, its a laser designator, on toggle active it should send a raycast to get the point aimed at and send an RPC to the server to execute some server side logic, the issue is that the raycast requires the camera but "GetGame().GetCameraManager().CurrentCamera();" is returning null

[fringe prairie]

Does it work without peer tools (just hit play in world?)

[dapper warren]

Yes, it fails on dedicated server tool or peer tool

[torn bane]

Cameras do not exist on the server at all. You need to raycast on the client

[dark ocean]

or obtain the origin point and direction on the client, and then raycast on the server based on that if it’s sensitive (as in: never trust the client)

[red escarp]

how to fix this ?
SCRIPT (E): Virtual Machine Exception

Reason: Failed to read save-data from component 'B_PlayerIDComponent' using 'B_PlayerIDComponentSaveData'.

Class: 'EPF_CharacterSaveData'
Function: 'ReadFrom'
Stack trace:
Scripts/Game/EPF_EntitySaveData.c:123 Function ReadFrom
Scripts/Game/EPF_PersistenceComponent.c:177 Function Save
Scripts/Game/EPF_PersistenceManager.c:342 Function AutoSaveTick
Scripts/Game/EPF_PersistenceManager.c:929 Function OnGameEnd
Scripts/Game/EPF_PersistenceManagerComponent.c:50 Function OnGameEnd
Scripts/Game/GameMode/SCR_BaseGameMode.c:764 Function OnGameEnd
Scripts/Game/SCR_BaseGameMode.c:8 Function OnGameEnd
Scripts/Game/game.c:811 Function OnGameEnd

[dark ocean]

your save data is corrupted, or data format has changed after mod update and your save data is incompatible. wipe the save

[river imp]

@livid forum

[coral sorrel]

Thats what I have setup pretty much. ```class SNEAKY_LungeMineAttackComponent : ScriptComponent
{

override void OnPostInit(IEntity owner)
{
    super.OnPostInit(owner);
    Print("----- POST INIT -----");
}

override void EOnActivate(IEntity owner)
{
    super.EOnActivate(owner);
    Print("----- ON ACTIVATE -----");
    
    GetGame().GetInputManager().AddActionListener("CharacterFire", EActionTrigger.DOWN, LungeMineAttack);
}

override void EOnDeactivate(IEntity owner)
{
    super.EOnDeactivate(owner);
    
    GetGame().GetInputManager().RemoveActionListener("CharacterFire", EActionTrigger.DOWN, LungeMineAttack);
}

void LungeMineAttack()
{
    Print("----- IMAGINE if this worked -----");

}

}```

Video showing it doesn't activate on initial equip but will after weapon swap. https://streamable.com/gurliz

[livid forum]

ur using a obv declared test mod, I will fix it once im back home in about a week. This broke with 1.3

[sweet badger]

Is there a way I can get references to all currently present characters or AI agents, without storing them myself on creation?

[coral sorrel]

hmm. Tested the component on an m16 and it triggers the first time I pick the weapon up. I guess something regarding how I built my prefab is missing/incorrect to cause EOnActivate to not trigger for initial equip action.

[edgy field]

how are you supposed to combine an event mask, if I want to have access to the EOnInit and EOnFrame lifecycle methods at the same time? Doing a bitwise AND on it doesn't work.

SetEventMask(EntityEvent.FRAME & EntityEvent.INIT);

[pliant ingot]

|

or you can just call it two times for each event)

[gloomy lynx]

so normally when someone exits the server it will show group1 reason9

this prints sometimes when exiting server and then hangs on the arma logo until you end the process
14:06:40.993 RPL : IReplication:: Finishing...
14:06:41.026 RPL : rpl::Pip::ProcessNetToGame
14:06:41.026 RPL : IReplication: Finished
14:06:41.026 RPL : ClientImpl event: disconnected (identity=0x00000000), group=0, reason=0
14:06:41.026 RPL : Pip::Destroy

that printed in client

this printed on server

@torn bane do you know the limit of how many items can be saved in the database before performance takes a hit?

or wierd things occur

how many items would it take to flood replication?

specifically 'Items'

also what is the data limit from server to client before rpl takes a hit

[torn bane]

I do not know, but especially with many items of the same type it is better to implement virtual quantities. instead of having 100 records that all say its a full mag

[gloomy lynx]

does anybody know the data limit before clients cant handle rpc's

if my client is trying to load 3k items from database is that enough to flood rpc?

[late locust]

How does one make a multiline string?

[torn bane]

Afair it was 4kb for a single sync message, do not remember anymore, the game will not let you send it and print in the error log. but you have no way to measure how muc htraffic you cause andd sending this much usually means a big performance drop in those frames

[torn bane]

\n but the widget has to respect it. if it is rich text, then <br>

[late locust]

No like in code

hello
world
";

[gloomy lynx]

does anybody know the actual limitations of rpc of this engine????????

im kinda sick of playing guessing games here

im sure many people are

you guys got documentation on almost everything else.

[torn bane]

And what would you do with this information? I already told you that if you hit the limit the game will tell you. The limit can change (it has already in the past 2 years). You are not supposed to even come close to this limit ideally, especially not for spawning entities. Eeach entity creation is their own rpc already. You can spawn as many entities as you want in a frame, they will all be synced to a client, but it will lag everyone out.

[gloomy lynx]

my problem is the limit being hit with no reason behind it. no pointers or errors giving me ANYTHING to go on

i have wiped my map clean of everything and STILL get rpc flooded

is it the size of my map? is it some vanilla entity that was deprecated and still exists on the map?

what do i do?

what would you do?

[torn bane]

You get rpl flooded even if you just load onto your map? Are you sure some script is not loading dynamic entities after the world was loaded? Because world entities itself have little replication, only if they got changed since load.

[minor agate]

Right before the line break, type \

[minor agate]

As said in the replication bootcamps. 4kb just makes the rpc reliable.

Also you can measure traffic with the diag executables, on the networking/replication diags.

@gloomy lynx my guess on your issue, based on the only case i have seen something like this before is perhaps having custom trees or bushes in your map that have rplcomponent set to runtime.

Or that have an rplcomponent

Just remove it if so

[gloomy lynx]

ok ill do some searching, thank you

[coral sorrel]

@minor agate any thoughts on this issue? Unsure what to check at this point.

[minor agate]

Inventory is virtual afaik for a while

(Items are not kept spawned unless visble for a while now)

So if you took it directly to inv, those things wont be called.

[minor agate]

It activates on the others as it makes it active for whatever reason

Dont bank on that as a signal that its being used

[timid citrus]

Can I put the same database name for different worlds with persistent database framework?

I doubt it just curious

Like for players items for instance.

[ocean kernel]

Hows progress on making servers not use 100 TB bandwidth per month?

[torn bane]

Depending on what you save yes. If none of it is map specific.

[timid citrus]

Excellent thank you. Yeah I'm just talking about saving items and the player can retrieve them in their inventory or from a locker or something in a different world

[coral sorrel]

the 'others' you mean the base game weapons? Because they're calling it reliably the first time I equip them from the ground. No matter what I do for my weapon (equip into hands or onto back and then switch to the weapon) I need to cycle to another gun and then back to my weapon for it to OnActivate. Even pulling it out of an Arsenal I need to cycle to another gun and back to it.

The problem is that I was relying on this OnActivate method for my 'attack' functionality (detecting when player left clicked or hit whatever applicable controller button). Can I somehow force the component to activate within OnPostInit manually? Not sure if that'd fix the problem but it's the only thing I can think of at the moment.

[minor agate]

But why do you need EOnActivate to begin with?

That is not clear still.

It's not a method that tells you if a item or entity is being used.

So it's unreliable for that if that is what you want

EOnActivate is en engine event used for knowing when the engine is ticking/processing the entity periodically

It has nothing to do with items, or anything else

It can get triggered by many other things

[coral sorrel]

I explained in second paragraph. I was using it to listen for player 'attacking' input which I was going to then use for setting up the attack with this weapon. Because my weapon isn't a gun I have to figure out a way to manually trigger an attack.

The reason I picked it was because I inherited from Scriptcomponent and it looked like the most reasonable method for what I was trying to do.

[minor agate]

Wrong usage then

It will give you more problems than this

[minor agate]

Do not activate it manually on OnPostInit too. You will cause extra strain on the engine

[gloomy lynx]

if someone can dig into my mod and figure out my flooded issue, ill make you any car\truck you want

[minor agate]

You probably will need to mess with Player Controller or Character command handler

If you want to implement custom weapon type of sorts

[edgy field]

Are components / entities supposed to have behavior? Or do I create empty entities that hold components which are then queried and modified by systems. Cause all of this looks like ECS but there's behavior within components and entities.

[minor agate]

They are, they are just misused.

In general, if you can;t just do it as proper ECS

And do the behavior/logic on game systems

Unfortunately the vanilla scripts are not always the best practices or implementation

Anyway things will somewhat work

you will only just run into issues here and there if not, or tangling of logic and not being able to batch things

[coral sorrel]

OK. I'll start looking through that tonight and see what I can come up with. Appreciate your time bud.

[edgy field]

Yeah I mean I was looking at the docs and the guy was using lifecycle methods of a entity within a component

[minor agate]

Yeah, we kinda want to get rid of that 😅

@edgy field In the replication modding bootcamps we used systems

there are two of those

[edgy field]

That didn't really make sense to me cause SetEventMask expects an IEntity. But the EOnFrame is being used in the component

[minor agate]

In the Animation Modding Bootcamp #3 I did yesterday, I explained how to mess with character handler and implement custom logic, also how animation graph <-> Scripts and controlelrs work and pointers on how to even implement new mechanics and controllers

[edgy field]

And now somehow the component is relying on the Entity's lifecycle methods?

[minor agate]

It should be uploaded tomorrow.

[minor agate]

Component => causes entity to tick when using the EOn events

Better to do it through systems

[edgy field]

I will

[minor agate]

Faster, more reliable and can be systematically done

Idea, entitites just to have a definition of something in the world, and transform info.
Components to tag behavior or data into the entity

[coral sorrel]

ya I was waiting for it to come out, I missed the first half of the presentation the other day unfortunately. I'll definitely check it out when it gets uploaded. Admittedly should have went with a gun for simpler implementation rather than creating something from weapon_base but I'll figure it out.

[minor agate]

System that get these components registered into

and performs behavior on them

Perform the behavior on the systems themselves, either through other classes managed by it. But avoid doing any logic on entity or component classes themselves

Use components only for data, and replication of said data (RplProp)

[edgy field]

Ok I will, it just looked like everyone was doing it the behavior-within-entity way

[minor agate]

Thing is that when developing reforger, Game Systems (The legacy way before World Systems) was not fully prepared or even there.

So things were done with what we had

But now we have them, and a more robust system impl to use is coming even

[gloomy lynx]

how about a log level just for rpc debugging

😄

[minor agate]

Again, you have the tools for that in the Diag game and server

also on WB

open diag menu, and mess with the Replication and Networking debugs

You won't see it on normal ones

[gloomy lynx]

ive never gotten replication flooded from peertool or ds tool

only on a live server

[minor agate]

I have a feeling that someone is just attacking your servers through a game exploit like it has happened in other games

[gloomy lynx]

so spamming some bogus datapacket that looks like a rpc call?

[minor agate]

If it's really not a messed up mod

[minor agate]

Yeah

Anyway stop flooding the channels here

I already told you that I would check

[gloomy lynx]

i apologize

sorry

[hollow oak]

hi! A silly question but, can a vehicle drive by premade coords. Like a train, following the railroad vector coords?

[timid citrus]

Do any of you bohemia devs know anything about activation conditons / triggers for scenario framework being broken in 1.3? Been having issues and heard the same thing from some others.

can't seem to get anything to trigger unless its set to oninit

[open pier]

Hey pal I think we cap out at 6-8TB a month 8^)

[open pier]

Can I do this on a server? Performance on WB doesnt matchup to performance in servers due to having data from the players that cause flooded/stalled crashes. Have been trying to figure out how to debug replication for a while now, its been happening a lot and then a LOT more after the 1.3 update

[minor agate]

These debugs are not enabled or even accessible at all in normal server and normal clients

You have to use Diag client and diag server. Or workbench

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:Development_Executables

[gloomy lynx]

so say me and him are getting attacked, what can we do?

if its not anything on our end

[minor agate]

#enfusion_scripting message

😅

We do not do the reasons so trying to fight it back is useless

Just wait on it

A lot of things can cause that

That is why you do not get a report telling you what did it

Just something, somewhere flooded replication and the system was unable to handle it so it just dropped the connections

[gloomy lynx]

pardon my frustration but unless we get one of you guys to look into it we are kinda screwed with no prints for whats causing it

[minor agate]

But I already told you that I would check

[open pier]

and theres no way to tell what that something is? I can't diag/debug in workbench because it happens under certain conditions in a running server with 60+ people on it.

[minor agate]

Stop asking for it or messing with spamming it here

[vernal moat]

curious on the answer, if you can remember add me to the answer as koth reforged has very easily flooded issue going above 90players (kinda mid joining in the discussions so maybe im totally irrelevant if so plz ignore)

[minor agate]

Run a diag server

and diag client

Then you could.

Just beware that it will be open to hackers, but for testing is fine

[open pier]

So I can run the diag server on my DS and it'll run normally so players can still connect into it?

[minor agate]

Onyl those that are running the .exe that has Diag on it

[gloomy lynx]

im not saying this out of impatience im saying it because if its the case that many thing can cause it WHY is there no prints for it. im sorry if it seems like im being forcefull but its a genuine question

[minor agate]

So i f you want to test with your community, tell them to launch that .exe

instead of the non diag one

[open pier]

thats where the problem lies, I can not replicate the kicks without them and 90% of our community are xbox players

[minor agate]

Because there is no way to track that

And if we did, the performance of the replication system would be way worse

and also the game's

[gloomy lynx]

if we had a option somewhere in the game mode to turn it on and off couldnt that work? turn it on to debug, turn it off to save performance

[minor agate]

Anyway I am getting impatient about this now, I was going to check it on free time, so do not push the limit.

No need to still bring it up if you are told that it will be checked

[open pier]

or is there anyway to utilize the diag classes in our mod to debug this?

[minor agate]

Best way is to report it to us, will be easier.

Debugging replication is not easy and it is not modding friendly

It's easier if we do it ourselves and debug from the CPP side

[open pier]

Bet, i'll stop asking questions now and let you do you. Thank you for the input

[minor agate]

You can see some things, like how much data is being sent

But you can't see what classes and such

In our case, we can as we have more control in internal binaries. That actually make the game slower by a lot

And those things won't be released to modders as it aids to hacking and other things

They are dangerous.

[open pier]

Sorry another question, when sending you guys the information needed, where can I get this? Since it doesn't actually crash the game/server theres no crash guid being given

[minor agate]

Just your exact setup

And the logs you get

If it;s big issue community wise. We can do a playtest inernally and see if we can replicate it

[open pier]

Okay thank you, i'll start getting the information together to send it off, best to send it to general support or there a more focused area?

nvrm i see the Feedback tracker is where

[minor agate]

@open pier @gloomy lynx With Rpl Diag you have available if you do what I told you.
On a client connect to server. I have two clients connected to a diag ds server.

Data from each connection on the server

Outgoing rpcs

same with byte usage

[gloomy lynx]

ok so if we do that and we see a ton of data what do we do next

[minor agate]

In this menu

[minor agate]

If an Rpc there is being called a lot.

Just check what calls that Rpc in your mods

That is about the best you can get from modding side

@gloomy lynx @open pier The RPC ones are relative to the client that opened this debug

If you want to check in on the server, then launch a listen client to act as the server

Just launch the Diag client with server param, and use it as normal server

It will launch a client that you can play on, that is also the server. then you can use that visual debug there

[gloomy lynx]

alright ill try it out

[open pier]

Yee time to get a diag server setup, thank you Mario

[minor agate]

@gloomy lynx @open pier You will have to make them connect through IP btw

Also, only PC

[open pier]

So just direct connect to it as it wont show up in the server list?

[minor agate]

Yes

[open pier]

bet

[dapper warren]

Hey, I have a gadget (LaserDesignator) that onToggleActive I need to calculate the position from the gadget 2D Sight where it is being aimed at but on Dedicated Server Tool I can't access the client camera or chimera character from the gadget component

[dapper warren]

So Cameras don't exist on the server, right, but the logic is supposed to be running on the client or having my logic on the components "onToggleActive" on a modded SCR Gadget Component runs on the server?

How can I guarantee that a component is client-side so I can calculate the raycast and then call the rpc to execute the server logic?

[minor agate]

Cameras can exist on server, but only in the case of listen client (When server is both a playable client and server)

In normal server, no render so no cameras

And expect anything render related to not be there

[minor agate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asWxIIHT6d0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTqb3QvndxA

[dapper warren]

I watched those :/ is just a bit confusing right now

[minor agate]

You would want to check if you are authority

Then perform logic that is authoritative there

We can;t really tell you the exact proper way without having your code

Depending on case, how to do it changes.

[high hawk]

Any news on the samples used in the advanced one being released?

[dapper warren]

Ok so if you're able I'll give a high level overview of what I'm trying. I have server-side logic that can spawn some prefabs. Then I have a prefab of Binocular that I need to behave like a laser designator, so when the player aims at some point and presses a key, the server logic gets executed.

I think the main issue is that all my logic is on the RangeFinderComponent that extends from SCR_BinocularsComponent and is attached to the binocular prefab, so I can't tell where is my logic running

[minor agate]

We'll release them along with the animation projects

[dapper warren]

I was thinking that anything outside an Rpc ran on the client

[open pier]

ofc all my recent logs are filled with REST API errors, need a keepalive on my web server for when the server can't come back up :c
Gotta wait for some fresh logs to put in the bug report

[visual atlas]

most things run on both server and client unless you use rpcs or manually check rplcomponent

depends what it is but for example you add a component to an entity on the map it'll run the components lifecycle separately on both

ie EOnInit when the server starts up, EOnInit when a client streams it in

[dapper warren]

Interesting, so looking up I found that in gadgets the method OnToggleActive(bool state);
is an Event called from SCR_GadgetManagerComponent through RPC request so that's probably the root cause of my issue, it would never run client side logic as its meant to sync states

[gloomy lynx]

ok did all this and used my main rp mod, spawning in corner of map no ability to respawn, on a actual dedi server we spawn normally any ideas what could be wrong?

this is local

this is server

im not asking whats wrong by showing you those screenshots, thats just whats going on

[minor agate]

Not true

It depends on if those events were enabled on post init or such on auth, proxy or owner

@dapper warren

Best way to test, without going down the chain of calls, is to run DS tool

Then conenct WB script editor to server, see if it gets called there

then connect WB script editor to the client, and see the same

Or just make it print something, and check script log of both

I showed a bit how to do this on the previous anim bootcamp 2 days ago

3rd animation bootcamp was also about modding in scripts

[dapper warren]

Yes, I was there on anim bootcamp 3, learned how to use it and its changing everything so I just created an inputProxyComponent on the character to handle the logic of calculating the point, I think I'm on the right track, I guess at first I was just looking where to hook the spawning logic and as it worked on the normal workbench play I was thinking it was right but the more I learn it changes things

[minor agate]

Yeah, this is why I recommended to avoid testing in WB game

and just use the DS server + client environment

It's just more reliable, WB won't cache things on it

And it's more akin to what players in MP will experience

also you can easily tell apart what things are authority and proxy

Unlike in WB + Peertool where server (WB game) can be Auth, proxy and owner

[gloomy lynx]

in the case of the serverdiag.exe where does it save the edf database?

cant seem to find it

[minor agate]

That is not official mod.

Idk where Arkensor made it save things at. I have never used it

Probably on some other profiles folder for it

[gloomy lynx]

usually its in the profile but it looks liek the diag.exe doesnt create a profile folder

[dapper warren]

Yes that can be very confusing, now by connecting the wb editor with the debuggerPort shows different prints as in the console window that's running on the server - I thought the server logged even client prints but nope!

[minor agate]

Did you run it through WB DS tool?

[gloomy lynx]

yes

[minor agate]

If so then it might just default to WB's

Unless you told it to use specific profile's folder

[minor agate]

Also remember the hint I threw there

IF all you need is to see prints, then you can go to the client game

press left shift + ~

then you get an ingame console log showing

Then you do not have to hook in and out the script editor from server to client, or to client A to client B

It will open that

[dapper warren]

Thanks!

[west prism]

Are the scripts used in the VFX video from 2 years ago outdated has the language been altered or updated since then? Functions changed?

[timid citrus]

He answered it for me this morning on here. I'll find it real quick

Er not him but somebody

Server/saves/profile/.db/yourdatabasename

.dB is hidden folder

@gloomy lynx

[gloomy lynx]

thank you!

[visual atlas]

Lol yes assuming you've enabled the events

[fringe prairie]

Would it be safe to get RplId from RplComponent on an entity that registers as a component to a system?
I am doing component.GetOwner().FindComponent(RplComponent)
RplComponent exists but rplComp.Id() = -1.

[thorn anchor]

With hud manager layouts, I should be able to create widgets inside the infodisplay script right?

I’m trying to create popup widgets whenever certain actions happen. But I can’t seem to get them to display. When I manually drop them into the main hud layout they appear as they should inside of workbench. My rpc is getting called as well.

Also not at my computer right now so I can’t post the code. Just curious if anyone else has dealt with it. Maybe looking at the player kill/join feed script might be similar.

SCR_NotificationsLogDisplay? That’s the one that shows kills, player joins/exits and other info on the right side of the screen?

[tough cave]

can someone that uses default values and JSON like this in their scripts put this on the issue tracker, please? regression / bug since 1.3

[late locust]

How do I get my json bool to not convert to 0/1? I need it to be false/true

[ocean kernel]

Are you using JsonApiStruct?

[late locust]

Yeah

[ocean kernel]

[late locust]

Currently I just set it to -999 and dataString.Replace("-999", "false");. Clearly the intended way

[ocean kernel]

Use SCR_JsonSaveContext since JsonApiStruct doesnt parse JSON correctly and breaks over time

bool testValue = true;

SCR_JsonSaveContext ctx = new SCR_JsonSaveContext;
ctx.WriteValue("m_bTest", testValue);

Print(ctx.ExportToString());
// SCRIPT       : {"m_bTest":true}

And then SCR_JsonLoadContext to load it

Another issue with JsonApiStruct is it parses 900.0 as 0 for float fields

Lol

[late locust]

Why do I even read the wiki if its all unusable info 💀

[ocean kernel]

And due to arbitrary buffer limits JsonApiStruct always breaks when the server runs for a few hours with max players

So at some point it will just stop working

And you'll be wondering why

[late locust]

Thats the important info that need to be on the wiki

[fringe prairie]

Users can’t be trusted to update the wiki, but that’s besides the point of this channel haha.

I’m working with map markers and figured out that I could set global display to true on server, and local display to false on clients. I’m having a great time turning them off but I’m not able to turn specific ones back on since target is set by server thus doesn’t exist on client. Not sure if there if any optimal way to do what I want with them (turn them on locally based on custom parameters).

I ended up getting around it by modding a Rpl setter/getter function on the map entity class, but avoiding that would be good

[edgy field]

class PrintDistanceFromPlayerSystem : BaseSystem
{    
    override static void InitInfo(WorldSystemInfo outInfo)
    {
        outInfo
            .SetAbstract(false)
            .AddPoint(ESystemPoint.Frame);
    }

    override void OnInit()
    {
        Print("OnInit");
    }
    
    override void OnUpdate(ESystemPoint point)
    {
        Print("OnUpdate");
    }
    
    override void OnStarted()
    {
        Print("OnStarted");
    }
}

Why is my system not running? Do I need to instantiate it somewhere?

[river imp]

Yes, add it to the game system config

[edgy field]

How do I do that?

Figured it out.

[minor agate]

Only classes that have rpl layout (Rpcs, RplProp, RplSave/etc pverrode) get registered into replication

That entity has to rpl layout so it is not registered

Same thing for components, RplComponent being there does not make entity and components be all replicated

Only those that have explicitely tried to define replication layout

We explained it on the replication bootcamp too

[fringe prairie]

Yep, it’s a radio with RPC stuff I just didn’t realize that there was something wrong with my code concerning getting RplId

So that issue was fixed on my end

[dapper warren]

Continuing in the topic of replication - I know a ScriptedCamera would not exist on the server but can I store its transformation like position, angles and replicate that so every client that views the camera views the "same" camera?

[edgy field]

I've created a system settings config, added my system to it, configured the system point to match the one in InitInfo, added my config to the system module settings configs and then selected it under the play button. For whatever reason, my system is still not running at all, not even the constructor. Aditionally I'm not sure if by default the SystemsSettings config class is supposed to detect the system points set in InitInfo cause it doesn't. I was following the docs in WorldSystemDocs.c, not sure if that's still up to date.

[dapper warren]

Uh I had that issue, what worked for me was overriding or inheriting from chimeraSystemsConfig and restarting the workbench - reloading the world, so instead of creating your own Systems conf, you use the one that's loaded by default, add your system to it

[edgy field]

I've tried restarting the workbench, I can't imagine why you couldn't use a custom systems config.

Maybe I'd like only for certain systems to run.

Don't really wanna inherit from the base config.

[dapper warren]

yes, I'm not sure why it didn't work that way for me

In the docs they use a custom systems config, but following step by step I could not replicate

[rich current]

Could help me find out how to set 3 of my variables to be configurable by the server's JSON?

RENDITION_CHANCE Chance of the last agent to surrender 0.75 (75%)

RELEASE_DELAY_MINUTES Time until he tries to leave the surrender 4.0 minutes

RELEASE_CHANCE Chance of leaving the surrender after time 0.30 (30%)

[edgy field]

Overriding it did actually work, but that's not ideal. I wonder if its an issue with the config selection when hitting play.

[dapper warren]

Looks like, when I selected the custom config the default was deselected but on the game it looked like it was still active and mine wasn't

[edgy field]

Also, is there a way to query for entities using multiple components? Vanilla system do this thing where they have a register and unregister function and use that to keep track of components but that only allows for a single component type, is there a way to do something like this?

QueryEntitiesWithComponents({PositionComponent, VelocityComponent, ExplosionComponent})

If you had like a movement system then, you'd query these in the OnUpdate method and then do whatever

[ocean kernel]

Where can I get some help about crash report? I have once again hit the common Crash WB With Zero Logs situation

[sweet badger]

Is there a non wbAPI method to get the terrain size / bounds?

I know I can do world bounds, but these usually don't line up well

Actually maybe I can try the bound box of the terrain entity
Edit: No luck either, it just returns zero vectors
Edit 2: I found that the MapEntity has a Size() and Offset() method, these work

[fringe prairie]

Yeah you can replicate vectors pretty easily

if you can find a way to get that data on server

[rich current]

Someone can help with this Error ?

[river imp]

Just like it says, you can't overload EOnInit

[rich current]

I was waiting to know if anyone knew another way for me to run the function

[river imp]

By not overloading it

[west prism]

https://reforger.armaplatform.com/workshop/6265238BFD2AC936-CentralEconomy

anybody know how to activate it?

can somebody help to get worked loot spawn

[versed remnant]

EOnInit already exist, meaning you need to:

• override the function
• specify the same function parameters => the things inside the ()

Example:

override protected void EOnInit(IEntity owner)
{
  super.EOnInit(owner);

  // My code here
}

"overloading EOnInit" mean you are not respecting the expected parameters to keep it simple

[gloomy lynx]

anyone getting infinite hang on logout of a server, hangs on arma logo until you end the process

[timid citrus]

Is there a prefab / component / script I could look at to get started if I want to make deployable tent pickups.

Like you pick up the tent and can place it on the map from your inventory

[acoustic nimbus]

There's a usage on his github https://github.com/CashewSan/Central-Economy/tree/main

[solid hearth]

Has anyone had success with getting the vanilla pilot turret working with machine guns? I've managed to get it going but there seems to be a desync / registration issue with multiple guns. Only one gun seems to register across the network properly and stays in sync while the other one(s) do not. Figured I'd ask before digging deeper...

[copper badge]

Can we request Wiki on how this systems works as well. Would be amazing ❤️ ^

[fringe prairie]

make the guns one with two muzzle components - the way it was done in the past lol

Otherwise not sure haha

[solid hearth]

that seems kind of lame because both are separate entities being attached to the rack system

It's like the second entity doesn't register across the network or something idk

I get that the system was primarily meant for rocket pods but surely they would have the foresight to see some idiot like myself would try to rig it with machine guns..

[inland bronze]

just fyi @west prism, and as this has been talked about in my Central Economy thread #1301291009635909664 message, currently those instructions on GitHub are outdated and will be changed. Just haven't gotten around to it yet, best instructions are available on its workshop page https://reforger.armaplatform.com/workshop/6265238BFD2AC936-CentralEconomy

If you have any further questions, please ask in my thread I linked 😄

Question, with AttachmentSlotComponent, how do I set which other attachment slot it obstructs? Do I have to do that in script somehow?

[azure sky]

Hoping someone here can save me from this pain as I feel like I have no idea what I'm doing at this point but it's the effort that counts right?

class TRF_VoNOverrideComponentClass : ScriptComponentClass {}

class TRF_VoNOverrideComponent : ScriptComponent
{
    const string VAR_CONFIG = "{1C14FBA390717FC3}Sounds/VON/VON_DIRECTION.conf";
    const string VAR_LEFT = "VON_Left";
    const string VAR_RIGHT = "VON_Right";

    override void OnPostInit(IEntity owner)
    {
        super.OnPostInit(owner);

        if (!Replication.IsServer())
            return;

        SetEventMask(owner, EntityEvent.INIT);
    }

    override void EOnInit(IEntity owner)
    {
        Print("TRF: Initializing VoNOverrideComponent", LogLevel.NORMAL);

        SCR_ChimeraCharacter character = SCR_ChimeraCharacter.Cast(owner);
        if (!character)
            return;

        // Check if this character is controlled by the local player
        PlayerController pc = GetGame().GetPlayerController();
        if (!pc || pc.GetControlledEntity() != owner)
            return;

        bool hasHandheld = false;
        bool hasBackpack = false;

        IEntity child = owner.GetChildren();
        while (child)
        {
            SCR_RadioComponent radio = SCR_RadioComponent.Cast(child.FindComponent(SCR_RadioComponent));
            if (radio)
            {
                EGadgetType type = radio.GetType();
                if (type == EGadgetType.RADIO)
                    hasHandheld = true;
                else if (type == EGadgetType.RADIO_BACKPACK)
                    hasBackpack = true;
            }

            child = child.GetSibling();
        }

        float left = 0.0;
        float right = 0.0;

        if (hasHandheld)
            left = 1.0;

        if (hasBackpack)
            right = 1.0;

        AudioSystem.SetVariableByName(VAR_LEFT, left, VAR_CONFIG);
        AudioSystem.SetVariableByName(VAR_RIGHT, right, VAR_CONFIG);

        Print("TRF: VON Stereo Set - Left: " + left + ", Right: " + right, LogLevel.NORMAL);

        string hintText = "Stereo applied:\nHandheld -> Left = " + left + "\nBackpack -> Right = " + right;
        SCR_HintManagerComponent.ShowCustomHint(hintText, "TRF VoN Override", 5.0);
    }
}```

I've split the von.sig out into two channel and enabled channel volume, I have variables set, and they work when the variables are set as "constant" and I give them a value but now I'm moving the variables to External so I can affect them via scripting.

I've created the above script and added it as a component to Character_Base.et (No idea if that's even correct) but it's not doing anything at all.

Trying to make this work based off the message here in Audio from LAxemann: [#enfusion_audio message](/guild/105462288051380224/channel/976159976827547659/)

[wind leaf]

With scripts from other mods, there's no override option, nor can I delete or edit them. What is the workaround here?

My specific scenario, I'd like to reduce the amount of people required nearby for radio backpacks to be deployed. I found the script affecting it but can't figure out a way to edit/override it.

[minor agate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Vvd0o5oQFU

[midnight talon]

You can override scripts from other mods, you just override the same class/method they override and yours should take precedence

[craggy jolt]

I assume there is no way to walk through all prefabs in the same way you could walk through the entire config in RV games?

[analog python]

From our testing, it does appear that unfortunately the pylon weapon system was mainly designed for rockets. You will encounter more problems if you try to combine different weapon types on the pylon. This also includes challenges like handling various weapon’s fire modes.

[solid hearth]

That is... disappointing to hear... Guess I swap to armaments it is..

Could still maybe make it work for another project but not for what i'm aiming for with current

[analog python]

We didnt expect to have to keep armaments going, our intention was to replace it with these new vanilla systems too

[solid hearth]

I was kind of expecting to see a good chunk of armaments die outside of the heat seeking system and radar, you get to live for another day

[analog python]

More work for me yippee

[solid hearth]

Also while you're around, i'm not crazy... right... they added flare pod prefabs so I can only assume they intend to add some sort of SAM system in the distant future

[analog python]

https://x.com/maruksp/status/1882347244059557903

maybe arma 4

Marek Spanel (@maruksp) on X

I want to take a brief moment to appreciate of the mindblowing quality of art produced by our fellow @bohemiainteract artists. 🙋👏🎬

🔎I am often unable to tell the difference between real and virtual anymore.

🔫Arma Refourger 🍀

X · Jan 23, 2025, 8:38 AM

[open pier]

In Scripts/WorkbenchGame
Then in the Enfusion Workbench you can hit plugins, then "Goose's Prefab Dump"
4th times a charm

[craggy jolt]

Thanks! I wonder if it possible to do this off workbench?

[open pier]

off workbench? unsure, i followed the advice of Bacon on this one making a plugin

[late locust]

How do I convert the translation key to the actual name via code? Like #AR-...

[dark ocean]

WidgetManager.Translate

[tawny lotus]

Or SCR_StringHelper.Translate()

[tawny lotus]

Is there a way to query all prefab names (and their resourcenames) under a certain directory (e.g., \Prefabs\Rocks*.et)?

[late locust]

In a WB Script SCR_WorldEditorToolHelper.SearchWorkbenchResources

[tawny lotus]

I want to do this on dedi server.

[late locust]

Not sure if there is one that works runtime.

[edgy field]

does anybody know?

[keen stag]

is there a way to know if the player is inside a FOB ?

[west prism]

thx so much

[analog python]

also I forgot to mention earlier, but its prob worth making a feedback bug ticket about this because in reality both guns should be replicated

[inland bronze]

Does anyone know how to do this potentially? Or if it’s possible?

[river imp]

A custom QueryEntitiesCallback

[west prism]

anybody can help i try to bind garage to save in Enfusion persistent framework

SCRIPT (E): Can't compile "Game" script module!

Scripts/Game/Garage/Life Garages.c(12): S

[river imp]

That error literally explains the issue

Line 2 - Missing Class for component
Line 9 - Missing Class for component
Line 12 - Can't ref GarageVehicleData
Line 14 - Can't overload PlayerGarageStorage
Line 16 - Can't ref GarageVehicleData
Line 61 - EPF_PersistenceManager.TryLoad is an undefined function
Line 65 - You're trying to create an instance of a GenericComponent (that's not how that works)
Line 77 - EPF_PersistenceManager.Save is an undefined function
Line 86 - You're trying to create an instance of a GenericComponent (again that's not how that works)
Line 207 - Trying to RplProp a component(You can't do that) in a useraction(Can't do that either)
Line 237 - Trying to RplProp a component(You can't do that) in a useraction(Can't do that either)

Kinda weird that the error complained about line 12 first.

[river imp]

From the tooltip one would assume it obstructs them all.

[inland bronze]

hmmm, guess not what I need then

[river imp]

Actually after lookiing around a bit, it seem that only the optics use "Attachment Obstructs" and it just obstructs the iron sights

[river imp]

FileIO.FindFiles

[ocean kernel]

That doesnt work on a dedi server

I tried deploying files from my own mod to profile folder and I wasnt able to read them lol

[cosmic mango]

Hello, tell me how to use "SCR_ScenarioLoadingScreenWidgets.c".
I want to change the loading image. "I created the "Scenario Loading Screen.layout" and tried to change it, but nothing worked.

[fringe prairie]

Look at GUI video

[open pier]

#enfusion_scripting message

Also @ocean kernel this was my result

[torn bane]

you inherit from the wrong classes, please check the readme/docs folder of my mod again carefully.

[river imp]

I hadn't tried but, clearly a workbench function won't work lol

[ocean kernel]

FileIO is not workbench-exclusive

[river imp]

I know.... Guy is wanting to do things on a dedi. A workbench function clearly wouldn't work on a dedi.

SCR_WorldEditorToolHelper.SearchWorkbenchResources and ResourceDatabase.SearchResources clearly won't work.

I suggested FileIO

[ocean kernel]

Yes, FileIO won't work on dedi to read contents from addons

[river imp]

And I also said that I hadn't tried.

[tawny lotus]

Thanks guys for the replies. Seems to be a tough nut to crack. My end goal is to find a way to list e.g., all rifles available on dedi including vanilla rifles and those defined via mods.

[torn bane]

ResourceDatabase was updated semi recently to work outside of workbench and could be used at runtime on dedicated servers. I believe this is already in 1.3

[river imp]

Oh nice

@tawny lotus ^^

[cosmic mango]

You don't understand, I think I did everything right, but it doesn't work, so I decided to contact here. Why are you advising me to watch videos? What the hell is this chat for if they send you to watch videos here?

[tawny lotus]

This works really nicely. Thanks.

[river imp]

This channel is to help with scripting. If it doesn't work then you clearly didn't do everything right, so watch the video again and find out what YOU did wrong.

[late locust]

Why does this shuffle example not work?

Cannot convert 'array<@MyClass>' to 'array<MyClass>' for argument '0' to method 'Shuffle'

array<ref MyClass> values = { new MyClass(), new MyClass(), new MyClass(), new MyClass(), new MyClass() };
SCR_ArrayHelperT<MyClass>.Shuffle(values);

Works when I remove the ref from the array but I need that

[river imp]

try new ref MyClass()

[late locust]

I heard new ref is bad

[river imp]

Well you kinda have to pass them as a ref if your array expects them as a ref

I don't think you can do new ref anymore actually.

[late locust]

Cant even new ref anyway. And the problem is with the array itself, this doenst work
array<ref MyClass> values = {};

I guess the ArrayHelper wants it without ref but why make an example that doesnt work

[river imp]

array<ref MyClass> values = new array<ref MyClass>();

[late locust]

Thats the same as {}

[river imp]

Well that works 199% of the time for me

[ocean kernel]

50% of the time it works all the time

[late locust]

Works all the time when I copy all the logic and use it myself

[river imp]

SCR_ArrayHelperRefT

Lol

[late locust]

Thanks

But the example of the none ref version is still wrong

[river imp]

It is. You're passing in an array of ref'd classes and the function expects an array of "non ref'd" items.

Oh I misread that

[minor agate]

@late locust new Ref Class is ALWAYS WRONG

[candid garnet]

possible to make something a public get but private/protected set like in c#?

[azure sky]

Anything on this from anyone, ideas on how I can make this work in MP/Dedi server? Attaching it to a different entity maybe?

[candid garnet]

you'll need to use replication in order to sync, say a variable, to your target clients. have you watched the bootcamps on replication yet?

[river imp]

I'm well aware.

Thanks for telling us for the millionth time. Lol

[minor agate]

Did I ever tell you, that new REF is ALWAYS wrong?

I just put it there everytime it is mentioned because of the newbies that might just take it

[candid garnet]

can we get the !quote bot on this?

[river imp]

Lol. I only suggested he try because of the error he was getting.

[vernal moat]

always put ref unless it dont compile, gotcha thank you.

[dapper warren]

Hi, I'm having a small issue with a modded gadget when it is in hand we set the context active to capture input but the context is being set active for all clients in presence of the gadget, how can I make sure that the InputManager Context is only set to active only for the person that is holding the gadget?

[teal vapor]

Hey folks, totally new to Enfusion scripting and was just curious: I've managed to create a mod that extends SCR_BaseGameModeComponent so it can listen to player-related events. I've manually added the component to the game mode's SRC_GameMode in my workbench space and verified that my callbacks are hit, all is great.

But there's a logical gap missing here for me, and maybe I skipped over something in the Bootcamp videos that covered this. If I want this component to be available in any game mode in any world -- what's the approach for that?

if there's guide I missed something explaining these concepts or this approach, would love to read more too.

[dapper warren]

If you want some methods that need to be available at all times on wherever your mod is loaded you're probably needing to use a System

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:Systems

[fringe prairie]

GadgetManager has GetHeldGadget

Or something like that not on computer

[teal vapor]

So a question about this. I was looking through classes that derive GameSystem and I'm not sure I agree that it fits this use case? Just to set the scene, I'm only trying to hook events like player connect, disconnect, etc. and then do some actions.

It almost seems like doing a modded SCR_BaseGameMode would be the necessary approach? Do you disagree?

[dapper warren]

I don't think I'm experienced enough, but if you're modding the SCR BaseGameMode then any GameMode that extends from that will have your logic, since modding a class is sort of the way to overwrite/extend with your own functionality. So if a server has your mod with a modded SCR BaseGameMode and they have a Conflict Game Mode then your logic will be present unless overwritten by other mod that modifies the same class

[teal vapor]

Right, that's exactly what I want. To your last point though, would two mods which have the same modded class and invoke the super.OverridenFunc() conflict with each other? or are both implementations called?

[dapper warren]

I'm not a 100% sure but it would make sense if both modded classes override the same function but are calling their super that both classes logic would be applied

[candid garnet]

think of it as a fork in the road

[teal vapor]

I'll be real this is not a helpful analogy. Are you saying that there can only be one mod overriding the class? This would make sense in the context of other OOP languages but I wasn't sure how this works in their VM

[open pier]

Super.override() will ensure that the previous overrides still execute, mod load order matters in this case I believe

[teal vapor]

Oh cool, so they chain like this (assuming load order is 1, 2, 3):

[3rd mod super.fn()] -> [2nd mod super.fn()] -> [1st mod super.fn()] -> [orig.fn()]

I was hoping that was the case.

Finally managed to find docs: https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/DayZ:Enforce_Script_Syntax#Modded_class

ty for the input

[open pier]

I believe so and if you wish to bypass what other mods do, use the vanilla.override() keyword instead of super.override()

[candid garnet]

how do i register a system that is derived from a common class? what's the work around since its not supported yet

[river imp]

That's the docs for DayZ standalone. Some functionality may be shared but that's definitely not what you should be using for Reforger documentation.

[river imp]

What?

[teal vapor]

It's the only reference I could find that detailed the modded keyword in that manner. Otherwise yes I'm looking specifically for Arma docs

[river imp]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Category:Arma_Reforger/Modding

[teal vapor]

sorry I meant that I am specifically seeking out the reforger content and not mixing and matching

[craggy jolt]

Say I want to display some vehicle prefab in ItemPreviewWidget or RenderTargetWidget, but the vehicle is not yet loaded in the world. So far I figured you can do this through:

1. Separate world, spawn with SpawnEntityPrefab, but this won't work on clients
2. Separate world, generic entity and set some VObject to it, but this is not really a complete vehicle, but just its model without prefab specific changes
   Any other possible ways to do it?

Seeing how vanilla game master has all assets as premade images I'm starting to guess its not really possible

or very impractical

[river imp]

https://community.bistudio.com/wikidata/external-data/arma-reforger/ArmaReforgerScriptAPIPublic/interfaceItemPreviewManagerEntity.html

[craggy jolt]

My goal is to setup a scene rather than just using single prefab through ItemPreviewWidget + ItemPreviewManager

[candid garnet]

This is the workaround I was asking about:

class ParentSystem : GameSystem

and

class ChildSystem1 : ParentSystem
class ChildSystem2 : ParentSystem

you cannot actually register them to ChimeraSystemSettings.conf due to a limitation on current implimentation of systems.

You have to actually do:

class ParentSystem1 : GameSystem
class ParentSystem2 : GameSystem
class ChildSystem1 : ParentSystem1
class ChildSystem2 : ParentSystem2

and copy the parent system

[craggy jolt]

I see it has ResolvePreviewEntityForPrefab, gonna try with it

[river imp]

Yeah, that's the workaround lol

[candid garnet]

is this currently documented somewhere? or are we just either figuring it out, or spreading the info between us

[river imp]

There is no workaround. Inherited classes don't work.

[craggy jolt]

Oh, there is SpawnEntityPrefabLocal

Welp, it works, except workbench crashes after I end the game.

[torn bane]

Not also current but for ever, it is intended like this. We do not support inheritance for them if both are active at the same time.

[ocean kernel]

Yeah I need to dial down time spent modding since it crashes so much in 1.3 I'm blocked on like 3 projects

[flint fog]

Hello everyone, this is a question that anyone may have encountered. I have created my widget and the class that manages it. I delegated SendText to my BaseGameMode, but for some reason everything works fine with sp and the labels in it change, but when I fill in mp, the widget is updated only with Init. I'm sure the problem is hidden in Replication, but I can't figure out how to defeat it.

modded class SCR_BaseGameMode : BaseGameMode
{
    protected ref TicketsHUDComponent m_HUDComponent;

    protected override void OnGameModeStart()
    {
        super.OnGameModeStart();
        if (!m_HUDComponent)
        {
            m_HUDComponent = new TicketsHUDComponent();
            m_HUDComponent.Init();
        }
    }

    void UpdateHUDText(string newText)
    {
     m_HUDComponent.SendText(newText)
    }

[dire sinew]

Are you sure about that? Isn't the entire point of SetUnique(false) to allow such situations in the new implementation of systems?

[dire sinew]

https://community.bistudio.com/wikidata/external-data/arma-reforger/EnfusionScriptAPIPublic/Page_WorldSystems.html

It's stated that the legacy system that we currently have is always set to unique.

[torn bane]

Ah great, we already have those changes out, forgot. Yes the wiki page explains whats the deal with it 🙂 Thx for the link kex

[frosty coral]

Is there any ETA on new systems? Is it like 1.4-1.5 or Arma4 timeframe?

[torn bane]

Additional changes are coming in a future major update, 1.5ish maybe yeah. A clear cut updated version that removes the whole backwards compatiblity in favour of better performance and configuration is an Arma 4 thing.

[frosty coral]

Do these additional changes include WorldControllers?

[ocean kernel]

Do they include less WB crashes

😭

[torn bane]

You know what to do, send report, give ids, let us see whats up. Workbench crashes are at the very end of todo lists as they are abysmally infrequent compared to the main game, so do not expect them to magically disappear by us getting bored and looking at the <0.1% incident rate issues. That is somewhat sad, but its just the realitiy.

[ocean kernel]

What time of day should I post them at for maximum chance of being looked into?

[inland vector]

im heavly a noob so any link to a tut would help but im using cinematic mode to make some angles, how would i make the vehicles move, shoot so on? im sorry if its a dumb qiestion ive tried looking online

[solid hearth]

The real question is when are we going to get the ability back to change classes in slotmanager

[timid citrus]

Haven't experienced this mine's running pretty smooth. A crash here or there.

[analog python]

feel free to bump my ticket https://feedback.bistudio.com/T190345

[fringe prairie]

Yeah I didn't realize until the other day I had to duplicate an existing slot with the class I wanted to get it to add properly haha

[fringe prairie]

That code is probably running only on server basically, what calls UpdateHUDText?

It's good that it shows up initially, which means init is running on clients. but whatever is calling UpdateHUDText is doing it from server side so client never runs it

[solid hearth]

Did I have a ton of wacky vehicles I'm in the process of creating and that just slowed it down horribly. Worst bug to exist, probably because they changed the method to external.

[fringe prairie]

You could probably change that method to add RPC like so:

void UpdateHUDText(string newText)
{
  m_HUDComponent.SendText(newText); //Probably don't need this, but this will always run on server or singleplayer
  Rpc(RpcDo_UpdateHUDText, newText);
}

[RplRpc(RplChannel.Reliable, RplRcver.Owner)]
protected void RpcDo_UpdateNetwork(int networkID, array<RplId> radioIDs)
{
  m_HUDComponent.SendText(newText);
}

This is cheap but has a few problems, but might be a non-issue. The updated text is only sent to clients that can recieve this, so JIP won't have correct text, I'm going to assume gamemode is always "streamed" so all clients on server should get the RPC ideally. If you are constantly updating it, you could use Unreliable RplChannel to drop packets but if you only RPC when it actually changes, won't be a big issue.

Alternatively, you could add at the top of the class a rplProp with the text saved to it, you set it by the server instance, so instead of doing the above, you would do:

[RplProp(onRplName: "UpdateHUDText")]
string hudText = "";

protected ref TicketsHUDComponent m_HUDComponent;
protected RplComponent rplComp;

protected override void OnGameModeStart()
{
    super.OnGameModeStart();
    if (!m_HUDComponent)
    {
        m_HUDComponent = new TicketsHUDComponent();
        m_HUDComponent.Init();
    }
    rplComp = RplComponent.Cast(GetOwner().FindComponent(RplComponent));
}

void ChangeHUDText(string newText)
{
  if(rplComp && rplComp.Role() != RplRole.Authority) //Only server should update the property
    return;
  hudText = newText;
  Replication.BumpMe();
}


void UpdateHUDText()
{
  if(!m_HUDComponent)
    return;
  //OnRplName does not trigger this function on server, only clients.
  m_HUDComponent.SendText(hudText); //Whenever a client streams a change to this component's hudText rplProp, we set their text.
  //JIP is handled gracefully
}

[fringe prairie]

To be extra safe, if it needs to trigger in single player as well you can do a check if(!System.IsConsoleApp()) to check if we aren't a console app (a server), even if Replication.IsServer() is true, in order to manually run the UpdateHUDText() function.

There are some things that just absolutely cannot run on a console app like dialog windows, even though it will let you try haha.

[minor agate]

Strings should never be ref'd

Do not add ref on anything unless it is both managed and you had to call new to create it

Also

Use roles, not if(!Replication.IsServer()) and such.

[ocean kernel]

ref MarioE

protected ref SharedItemRef MarioE

Double ref

[fringe prairie]

Sorry! Thanks for the heads up.

[minor agate]

I've been ref'd

[minor agate]

reference protected ref SharedItemRef MarioE;

(Yes, reference is a keyword)

[fringe prairie]

Coming from JS, pointers are still a weak spot of knowledge for myself. JS let me cheat a lot in this aspect

[ocean kernel]

return new ref SharedItemRef GameSystem(new ref MarioE);

[ocean kernel]

I wondered why nested attachment slots are not implemented, lines become longer than INT_MAX and dont compile

Also, when I did map without ref inside a map it didnt work

Probs cleaned up immediately

[minor agate]

Not you later after doing such things.

[ocean kernel]

This crash is probably something to do with refs db2a7b1e-6f40-4cf9-b78d-f7cf496a6ae6

[storm bobcat]

Where are the compositions for conflict listed?

[pliant ingot]

All conflict-related contains Campaign in its name

[west prism]

Hello people anybody can help with Life Garage for servers mode,
https://reforger.armaplatform.com/workshop/64EF3D89BCE67875-GaragesforLifeServers

how i can make EPF persistent save

[lofty stag]

06.04 2025 15:37:26
Unhandled exception

Program: /home/container/ArmaReforgerServer
Reason: Unknown


Class:      'RHS_SlidingInventoryStorageSlot'
Function: 'Insert'
Stack trace:
scripts/Game/generated/InventorySystem/RHS_SlidingInventoryStorageSlot.c:44 Function OnAttachedEntity
scripts/Game/WCS_LoadoutEditor/GameMode/Loadout/WCS_ArsenalManagerComponent.c:703 Function LoadCharacterFromFile
scripts/Game/WCS_LoadoutEditor/GameMode/Loadout/WCS_PlayerArsenalLoadout.c:75 Function OnLoadoutSpawned
scripts/Game/GameMode/SCR_BaseGameMode.c:1262 Function OnPlayerSpawnFinalize_S
scripts/Game/GameMode/SCR_GameModeCampaign.c:1301 Function OnPlayerSpawnFinalize_S
scripts/Game/GameMode/Respawn/SCR_RespawnSystemComponent.c:357 Function OnPlayerSpawnFinalize_S
scripts/Game/Respawn/RequestHandling/Base/SCR_SpawnHandlerComponent.c:160 Function FinalizeRequest_S
scripts/Game/Respawn/RequestHandling/Base/SCR_SpawnRequestComponent.c:459 Function FinalizeRequest_S
scripts/Game/Respawn/RequestHandling/Base/SCR_SpawnRequestComponent.c:421 Function AwaitFinalization_S
scripts/Game/game.c:924 Function OnUpdate



Runtime mode
CLI params: 

Got this error right before a server crash

[fringe prairie]

Sanity check:
A given RplComponent's Id (RplId) will or will not match between proxy and the authority perspective?

[storm bobcat]

I found it like a month ago, but I can't find it now.

[west prism]

Hello where can i find Guid of Items
Prefab - Defines the prefab that should spawn. This is the GUID of the prefab, not the whole path.

[candid garnet]

how do i grab the character's player name?

[teal vapor]

How would one test things like the radio UI as displayed when another player is talking or the HUD when another player is in range? I can't seem to figure out how to get the world editor to even show name tags for a random AI I plopped down

[fringe prairie]

Peer tool or look at VON_Entry scripts

[teal vapor]

Got the peer to work, thanks! Any idea why a name tag wouldn't be showing for peers on the same faction? I have no idea if this is just a scenario setting or something I missed

[fringe prairie]

Also, I am trying to emulate the squad marker entity system for something I am working on and I've set up mine up pretty much the exact same in terms of having config class and marker entity class. I am trying to use:
AG0_MapMarkerEntityAG0 myMarker = AG0_MapMarkerEntityAG0 .Cast(m_MarkerMgr.InsertDynamicMarker(SCR_EMapMarkerType.AG0_MARKER, someentity.GetOwner()));

This is erroring while:
SCR_MapMarkerEntity myMarker = m_MarkerMgr.InsertDynamicMarker(SCR_EMapMarkerType.AG0_MARKER, someentity.GetOwner());
Works...
My entity extends SCR_MapMarkerEntity just like SCR_MapMarkerSquadLeader - I don't know what I am doing wrong here, is there something I am missing?

[fringe prairie]

I'd just look at the script to see how it determines name visibility

[fringe prairie]

You could mod it or figure out where they pull info from, I know there is stuff in server config that might have some options.

[opal copper]

There’s a server config setting for disabling the von UI, as for name tags check your gamemode prefab for SCR_Nametagmanager and try assign a config if not set

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:Server_Config

VONDisableDirectSpeechUI

[fringe prairie]

You need to duplicate the base prefab for the MapMarker - and change it's class type to the one created for the entity.
Change RplComonent to be like image above.

[gloomy lynx]

look at one of the savedata components

that already exist in el\epf\edf

[keen stag]

is there a way to know if the player is in Game Master?

[reef aurora]

as in if they are not in there body but in camera

[west prism]

i dont understand how i bind this mode with epf

[fringe prairie]

SCR_EditorManagerEntity editorManager = SCR_EditorManagerEntity.GetInstance();
if(editorManager && editorManager.IsOpened())```

[gloomy lynx]

whats this

SCRIPT (W): @"Scripts/WorkbenchGame/ScriptEditor/SCR_NewScriptPlugin.c,112": 'GetAddonIndex' is obsolete: Use GetAddonID instead

why is vanilla using obsolete stuff

[fringe prairie]

it happens, the warnings are pretty recent iirc so some updating is needed but it will still function

SetGUIWidget for example is obselete and replaced by SetRenderTarget/RemoveRenderTarget

Since the index on SetGUIWidget wasn't functional anyways

[keen stag]

Thank you

[gloomy lynx]

isnt this one kindof important?
SCRIPT (W): @"Scripts/WorkbenchGame/ScriptEditor/SCR_NewScriptPlugin.c,112": 'GetAddonIndex' is obsolete: Use GetAddonID instead

i have a instance here where one of my players gets errors when certain mods are installed (and not being used on current server) and the errors go away when he deletes them

[fringe prairie]

I imagine that it still functions, it's a warning that it is replaced and prone to break on a future release, I guess testing would be required

if he knows what mods they are it might help narrow down an issue but ultimately if they aren't loaded it doesn't matter if they are installed of not

[gloomy lynx]

its edf epf and el

and anything that depends on them

[fringe prairie]

when you join a server for example after compiling scripts it runs a check against the server based on what is loaded, if that check fails you won't be able to connect

[gloomy lynx]

this isnt a broad case, he also has minimal specs to play reforger but it still shouldnt be happening

[fringe prairie]

and that is more of a game issue of loading mods than something wrong with any scripts

[gloomy lynx]

has mods installed > joins server that DOES NOT use the mods > replication flooded.

when he removes epf edf and el, and any mod that depends on them. and then joins the server. no flooded

[fringe prairie]

Well if you have a repro, with addon ids and environments I can certainly help test the hypothesis

and maybe help narrow down the issue but bohemia said they are aware of it and I imagine they are farther along in investigating it.

[gloomy lynx]

its a single case of this happening, ive been trying to diagnose what was causing our rpl floods the past 2 days

[fringe prairie]

have you seen arkensors post?

[gloomy lynx]

is it recent/

[fringe prairie]

this one

[gloomy lynx]

yeah i saw, me and him have been chatting about this issue for the last day in DM

at first i thought it was my map so i had done everything i can to debug things within my mods

when all i had to do was remove his stuff and everything works perfect

no floods without his mods

but that case where someone had his mods but server didnt require them was still getting the error until he deleted them

thats the part that makes zero sense to me

even if hes got a old machine, that shouldnt be possible.

[fringe prairie]

You are correct that it shouldn't be. Some times people are cursed haha. I really need to start adding to my wiki

[west prism]

https://reforger.armaplatform.com/workshop/64EF3D89BCE67875-GaragesforLifeServers
anybody get work it with epf?

[gloomy lynx]

bro you need to make a savedata component for the component that stores the cars

[west prism]

when i store the cars they come with start loot back

so u can dupe all starting vehicle loot

[gloomy lynx]

use EL_QuantityComponentSaveData as an example and make your own

[west prism]

ok i take a look

[gloomy lynx]

does that compile?

[west prism]

no luck thx should wait for fixed one

[topaz locust]

Action activated procedural animations seem to have been bugged out on servers since the 1.3 update. Has anyone else run into this issue?

[flint fog]

Oh, thank you very much. I solved this problem by reading the instructions on the wiki, specifying RplRcver. Broadcast, but now I saw your answer and the second option with changes in BaseGameMode looks great. Thanks, I will redo and test) Thanks again. I have another question, but it does not require a deep answer, this text should be displayed for different teams with different text, can you advise something?

[flint fog]

ahaha thanks for the detailed answer, now I understand MP scripting better

[fringe prairie]

When the update function runs locally have it check faction affiliation, if faction is this, set text to this text.

You can have two rpl props point to same update function if you want

[flint fog]

yes that sounds good thanks for the help

[frosty coral]

So, i have this RplProp, which doesn't work:

ref array<EntityID> m_aObjectChildrenIDs = {};```
In the
```RplName_UpdateChildren```
i have
```Print("CHILDREN: " + m_aObjectChildrenIDs);
Print("CHILDREN COUNT: " + m_aObjectChildrenIDs.Count());```
which on BumpMe prints correct array's count, but values are always 0x0000000000000000
Values on the server are fine

[frosty coral]

Also Entities involved are loadtime and do NOT have their rpl state overriden to "runtime"

[torn bane]

EntityID shall not be replicated, they are local to each machine. What you probably meant to replicate is RplId

[frosty coral]

I thought that was the case for IEntity, and EntityID were supposed to be specifically for that case

But thanks anyway

[torn bane]

Entity id is is a locally autoincremented value, which is there for any entity, even those that are not replicated. Mainly used by our internal code. No two machines are likely to have the same entity ids for a newly spawned entity after the game run a while

[frosty coral]

yes, but what if they are loadtime? are they still different?

because i'm only interested in loadtime for my case

[torn bane]

Loaded entities from the world layers should have deterministic ordering and thus matching IDs, even if they are not replicated. But this is not something you can rely on or expect backwards compatiblity if we ever need to change this. So use with caution.

As to your problem, we likely have no rpl codec for entity id, as we do not intend for it to be replicated. You can not implement a scripted one either as it is an int64 under the hood which script can not handle (maximum is int32).

[minor agate]

only EntityID and WorldTimeStamp (When it comes to the handle64 ones) have the rpl codec stuff

Something happened in the way

[frosty coral]

Ok, i see, i thought i was going crazy, i was 100% sure that you can rely on EntityID for the loadtime entities because i got it from the replication stream (even checked now just in case - 1:00:46)

Maybe i misunderstood

[minor agate]

In loadtime, you can rely

[frosty coral]

Yes, but this is the case, i'm doing stuff with loadtime entities and it gives me grief. But you say it should have codec?

[torn bane]

Until he can't because needed to change something. That is why I can not recommend it

[minor agate]

This one is not changing

It would break everything else

But that is not his issue

Something else happened, and want to know what broke

[frosty coral]

So is it my side or enfusion? If using rplids is better/safer i can switch to that i guess

[minor agate]

Share whole code pls.

[frosty coral]

It's huge and ugly, but i'll try

[fringe prairie]

There might be an issue with array initialization, try doing = new array<EntityID>; just for fun. I doubt it's the issue

[minor agate]

When replicated, whole array gets trashed/destroyed. And every element in it gets constructed from scratch. Even if a single element changes. So it is not that.

[fringe prairie]

Figured, I had an issue myself with them a while ago but not for this reason

[ocean kernel]

How do I get backend to work in WB play mode? It sometimes works sometimes doesnt

I want it to either work or not work, but consistently

[frosty coral]

I actually seen that while searching this channel and already tried with no luck

[frosty coral]

ref array<EntityID> m_aObjectChildrenIDs = {};

...
    if (GetOwner().GetParent())
    {
        BaseRplComponent parentRPLComponent = BaseRplComponent.Cast(GetOwner().GetParent().FindComponent(BaseRplComponent));
        if (parentRPLComponent)
        {
            UAB_MTO_Component parentMTOComponent = UAB_MTO_Component.Cast(GetOwner().GetParent().FindComponent(UAB_MTO_Component));
            if (parentMTOComponent)
            {
                EntityID childID = GetOwner().GetID();
                parentMTOComponent.RemoveChildID(childID);
            }
            GetOwner().GetParent().RemoveChild(GetOwner(), true);
        }
    }
...

...
    if (newParentID)
    {
        IEntity newParent = GetGame().GetWorld().FindEntityByID(newParentID);
        BaseRplComponent newParentRPLComponent = BaseRplComponent.Cast(newParent.FindComponent(BaseRplComponent));
        if (newParentRPLComponent)
        {
            UAB_MTO_Component newParentMTOComponent = UAB_MTO_Component.Cast(newParent.FindComponent(UAB_MTO_Component));
            if (newParentMTOComponent)
            {
                SCR_Global.SetEntityAsChildToParent(newParent, GetOwner());
                EntityID childID = GetOwner().GetID();
                newParentMTOComponent.AddNewChildID(childID);
            }
        }
    }
...

void RemoveChildID(EntityID childId)
{
    if (m_aObjectChildrenIDs.Contains(childId))
        m_aObjectChildrenIDs.RemoveItem(childId);
    Replication.BumpMe();
}

void AddNewChildID(EntityID newChildId)
{
    if (!m_aObjectChildrenIDs.Contains(newChildId))
        m_aObjectChildrenIDs.Insert(newChildId);
    Replication.BumpMe();
}```

This all is within one component, code is running on authority

RplName_UpdateChildren (i got rid of what was going on there, just left the prints) :

{        
    Print("CHILDREN: " + m_aObjectChildrenIDs);
    Print("CHILDREN COUNT: " + m_aObjectChildrenIDs.Count());
}```

[ocean kernel]

Also I am going to insert refs everywhere out of spite for not being able to pass functions as parameters

[minor agate]

Malicious mod

[ocean kernel]

Also, Replace All in script editor with my Addon selected does not actually replace all

I dont know what it does, but it doesnt replace all

Nevermind I had to use it 3 times

[dire sinew]

Mathematically speaking, what kind of operation does Math3D::MatrixInvMultiply3 do?

[minor agate]

Multiply a 3x3 matrix with the inverse of another 3x3 one

[dire sinew]

So A * B^-1?

[minor agate]

The codecs for both EntityID and Worldtimestamp are broken

[minor agate]

Technically speaking yes, as of end result at least.

It does some checks first to know if the matrix to be inversed is orthonormal

If so, then it will do A * Transpose(B)

Which is WAY faster

[minor agate]

Taking advantage of this

[dire sinew]

vector A[3] = { "1.5 2.5 0", "0.1 1.3 0", "0 0 1" };
vector B[3] = { "1 0.4 0", "0 1 0", "0 1.3 2.7" };

vector Bi[3];
Math3D.MatrixGetInverse3(B, Bi);

vector result[3];
Math3D.MatrixInvMultiply3(A, B, result);
PrintFormat("result: %1", result);

vector result_ABi[3];
Math3D.MatrixMultiply3(A, Bi, result_ABi);
PrintFormat("result_ABi: %1", result_ABi);

Prints

SCRIPT       : result: 0x000001CC2B3755D4 {<2.500000,0.620000,0.000000>,<2.500000,1.300000,0.000000>,<3.250000,1.690000,2.700000>}
SCRIPT       : result_ABi: 0x000001CC2B3755F8 {<1.460000,1.980000,0.000000>,<0.100000,1.300000,0.000000>,<-0.048148,-0.625926,0.370370>}

The heck is going on?

[frosty coral]

Thanks for checking

[minor agate]

let me check

[ocean kernel]

How big can be the string sent as output of server command

[dire sinew]

Relevant ticket: https://feedback.bistudio.com/T186903
Actually, the codec only seems to be broken for array<EntityID> , but not EntityID.
We currently use a wrapper as workaround for arrays of EntityID: https://github.com/acemod/ACE-Anvil/blob/913a575a64d3a9eb616c6772d00a7ce9789723c9/addons/core/scripts/Game/ACE_Core/GameMode/Components/ACE_LoadtimeEntityManager.c#L97

[minor agate]

Like this

[late locust]

You answered me here already but thanks again

[ocean kernel]

Just make sure you dont use string.Format for long strings since it's capped to 1023

Better to do string + string since it appears to actually work

Or whatever it was

[late locust]

Guess ill change to string + string then

Oh wait code says max 8191 chars

[static vale]

Anyone know how to "activate" a mortar shell. I want to spawn a mortar above a player have it explode once it collides. Ideally would have all the sounds of an active mortar as well

[ocean kernel]

About string.Format? I think in 1.3 it's still capped to 1023

[late locust]

Code says "(Maximum output string size is limited to 8191 characters)"
But I dont trust code comments anymore

Also why 1023 and not 1024

[late locust]

Launch should also activate it ProjectileMoveComponent::Launch
To just activate the trigger:

BaseTriggerComponent trigger = BaseTriggerComponent.Cast(projectile.FindComponent(BaseTriggerComponent));
trigger.SetLive();

[frosty coral]

So, i am switched to RplIds and

ref array<RplId> m_aObjectChildrenRPLIDs = new array<RplId>();```
is working fine and syncing on the client on BumpMe, BUT, when i do
```IEntity newChild = IEntity.Cast(Replication.FindItem(newChildRPLID));```
to get the entity from rplid it returns NULL on the client.

[dire sinew]

Do these objects even have a RplComponent?

[frosty coral]

of course

[dire sinew]

IEntity newChild = IEntity.Cast(Replication.FindItem(newChildRPLID));
Where do you execute this code? Could be that you do it too early where the RplComponent isn't done with the init yet

[river imp]

Gotta make sure the client has its values updated ^

[desert escarp]

What is the difference in server environments from dedicated servers, workbench and the local scernarios in game

[static vale]

Right now i am using this. But the speed of the shell seems way to fast? I'm not sure i understand initSpeedCoef. At 1 it should be whatever the InitSpeed variable is so 66? 66m/s??

moveComponent.Launch(vector.Up * -1, vector.Zero, 1, spawnedEntity, null, null, null, null);

[frosty coral]

well after init

[desert escarp]

It seems my methods work in workshop and dedicated but does not in the scernario browser in game

[dire sinew]

Apparently not. Again, where are you doing it?

[frosty coral]

do rplIds always exist on a client or they are streamed in?

[desert escarp]

    #ifdef WORKBENCH
        (code here)
    #else
        if (RplSession.Mode() == RplMode.Dedicated)
    {
        (code here)
    }
    #endif

for example, this works in workbench and dedicated servers but not in local scernarios in game

[frosty coral]

in a component

[river imp]

When?

[dire sinew]

The client will return null for streamed out entities...

[frosty coral]

at arbitrary moment, not 0.001 after game start

[late locust]

Not sure, I have the same code but with init speed 0.1 :p

[frosty coral]

ok, so sounds like the entity is not streamed in

[dire sinew]

Or again you do it too early

[frosty coral]

definitely not too early

[dire sinew]

You still refuse to tell us though 😅

[frosty coral]

that's why i'd rather use EntityID

[river imp]

You say that and then refuse to tell us

[river imp]

You beat me to it lol

[minor agate]

Whwre do you do it

EONinit?

Of what

Where

When

[river imp]

Exactly ^

[late locust]

Show code

[frosty coral]

Oh, ok

[wise shell]

Since im new to this,
How would one get currently running MissionHeader in remote console?

[river imp]

Could do that they aren't streamed it

[frosty coral]

in the onRplName

[minor agate]

Share the project 😅

[frosty coral]

in the component

[river imp]

Lol

Don't want anyone to steal his super secret scripts

[dire sinew]

Let's say this thing is on a game mode component, you may run into the issue that the entities you store there are not yet ready on the client.

[late locust]

Apl-nd

[frosty coral]

Ok, i have the loadtime entities with rplcomponent and my component where stuff happens. When [RplProp(onRplName: "RplName_UpdateChildren")] ref array<RplId> m_aObjectChildrenRPLIDs = new array<RplId>(); is being bumped i get the rplid from it on the client and try to find an entity to do the parent-child assignment

I guess wouldn't have the issue if EntityID codec wasn't broken as these things do not get streamed in/out in a way regular entities do

[dire sinew]

No, you would still run into the same issue, as entities that are streamed out are literally not persent on that client. Doesn't matter if you have their EntityID.

[frosty coral]

you are talking runtime entities

[dire sinew]

I am talking about replicated entities.

[frosty coral]

i'm dealing only with loadtime

[dire sinew]

but they are still replicated

[frosty coral]

having loadtime EntityIDs are always the same on the server and client i can at least always find an entity on a client

[dire sinew]

You cannot if said entity is streamed out

[frosty coral]

EnableStreaming(false); and it will not

[late locust]

I never got EntityID to work, I just use rplComp.Id()

[dire sinew]

We do use EntityID without issues, but for unreplicated loadtime entities.

As I said, we use a wrapper to replicate an array of EntityID

[dire sinew]

Actually, it looks like that you are right that replicated loadtime entities don't get streamed out. I guess it's then a matter of that the RplComponent is not yet ready at that point.

[frosty coral]

I guess i'll have to come back to it tomorrow. Still i'd rather do EntityIDs way, but i guess i'll have to wait until they fix the codec.

[dire sinew]

Or you still use RPL IDs, but make the entities register to your system when they are ready.

[frosty coral]

IIRC from the replication bootcamp it's more like once they've streamed in they dont' stream out or something like that, but that is about their state as the entities still exist on the client from the beginning

[frosty coral]

Will have to dig into it because i have mostly dealt with EntityIDs

[dire sinew]

It does sound anyway somewhat like what you are doing is probably best realized with a system 😅

[frosty coral]

I absolutely agree but i started the wrong way, and already pretty far, so i'll make it work first

[candid thicket]

The BI tutorial says I need to make an enum to make my custom faction playable. I'm trying to follow the tutorial but I don't know where to make the folder structure. Is this 'Scripts\Game\Editor\Enums\Modded' supposed to be 'MYMOD\Scripts\Game\Editor\Enums\Modded'?

[dire sinew]

All script files have to be inside Scripts. Anything outside won't get compiled. Best approach is Scripts\Game\MYMOD\Editor\Enums\, as whenever two projects have the same file with the same path, one hard-overrides the other, which you don't want most of the cases.

[candid thicket]

Okay, so where do I make it? In the regular Arma Reforger folder? Like what goes in front of the \Scripts.... ?

[dire sinew]

Inside your project's folder. The other folders are read-only anyway.

[candid thicket]

Ah okay, so thats what I meant. The scripts folder would be in the same folder as 'assets' and 'prefabs' and stuff in my mod folder?

[dire sinew]

yes

[thin lynx]

Hello everyone, I hope you're all doing well. I'm embarking on my first ever scripting mod for a bit of fun. Quick question, should functions have the prefix fn or fnc?

[teal vapor]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:Scripting:_Best_Practices

Combine this with your favorite C# style guide probably. I haven't seen any function prefixes like that.

[thin lynx]

realise i put this in enfusion and not arma 3...

my bad!

[teal vapor]

Is SCR_BinSaveContext a standard binary serialization format like BSON / CBOR or is it proprietary?

asking because I'd like to use it as a data exchange format for a service out-of-engine and would rather avoid the overhead of JSON if possible

and as a follow up question, I don't want to block an event callback by serializing data. Is there a way to execute some code async or low priority thread?

[ocean kernel]

That's a lot of data

[teal vapor]

What do you mean?

for a game / engine that already has frequent performance issues under high load I'd rather design from the beginning in a manner that's more performant than trying to refactor later

[ocean kernel]

Idk what amount of data you'll be serializing for it to be a problem, I am considered to be the biggest json abuser in arma reforger and I have never had a problem yet

[high hawk]

Bacon.json

[ocean kernel]

buffer overflow

[teal vapor]

I used to work on low level systems (hypervisors/kernels) so unnecessary micro optimizations are usually on my mind

[gloomy lynx]

lucky

[thorn anchor]

has there been any issues with map?

i try to assign an enum and customclass to hold data but it wont insert at all.

Does my enum need to have a value assigned to for it to key properly?

[teal vapor]

Sorry for asking so many questions, learning a lot so hopefully it's not a bother. If I want to override an action menu on an entity prefab, what's the recommended way of going about it?

I can successfully override the entity prefab and add the action menu, but this feels a bit overkill? Is there a way to do this purely from scripting that would be better?

I suppose my concern is that if other mods override there would be a collision, and I may want to extend anything that overrides that prefab.

[thorn anchor]

Trying to have notification that stack when there is multiple of them. but im struggling.

[open pier]

biggest json abuser? I might have you beat, db with 10k players among other things stored all in json 8^) Anything else is bson so small json

[dire sinew]

Can you show a small example where you think the insertion fails?

[minor agate]

None of you have been in the dayz modding scene it seems

I give it another year until we reach that level

[open pier]

Not PC modding, ran a server for a little bit and "modded" the heck out of it, was pretty fun but actual coding is a lot better imo

[dire sinew]

No, you can only add user actions via the actions manager component, so overriding the prefab is the way to go. Your worries about collisions are unfounded, as every action gets a unique GUID and another mod can only modify it with this GUID.

[teal vapor]

Solid, thanks for the reassurance. Half of what I've done so far has had me wondering if the way I'm going about something will unintentionally break other mods lol

[ocean kernel]

on top of using json for loadouts in the best mod arma reforger has ever seen, I'm using json for all network traffic/packets in the second best mod arma reforger has ever seen that I'm working on a few hours per week (though that one is currently blocked by UI being bugged to heck)

[teal vapor]

I asked this question before too, but I want to add some functionality that extends the game mode. Is there a way to add a component to the game mode at runtime? or how would I otherwise go about ensuring that my component is always add to a game mode regardless of the mode? #enfusion_scripting message

I'm starting to think that modded SRC_BaseGameMode is not the correct approach -- especially if I want replication.

[dire sinew]

You cannot add components at runtime. You could just override the root parent prefab that all game modes inherit from.

Anyway, you should have a look at systems instead. Systems are the proper place for adding game logic rather than components, which are technically just meant for holding data.

[teal vapor]

Ahhhh root parent is what I was missing. I was trying to override a child and didn't see the option to do so

Is this the best example of System usage? https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:Systems

and thank you for the input Kex, very helpful info

[dire sinew]

Also this one, but we are still using legacy systems, so stuff like world controllers are not yet working
https://community.bistudio.com/wikidata/external-data/arma-reforger/EnfusionScriptAPIPublic/Page_WorldSystems.html

[teal vapor]

Ok last question for the night: I'm messing around in the CTI_Campaign_Eden and for some reason just simply overriding GameMode_Base breaks a bunch of crap. Like even just selecting a faction breaks how the game mode auto-adds a squad and I see a bunch of VM exceptions.

Skill issue or am I missing something?

[dire sinew]

You should show us what you did. Just making an override without any changes shouldn't break anything.

[teal vapor]

confirmed skill issue while trying to repro

sorry for the noise, no idea what the deal was.

[pseudo merlin]

You probably forgot to use super. in the override so the vanilla code gets executed as well.

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_Reforger:Scripting:_Keywords#super

[teal vapor]

Nah I think it was maybe something weird with the Workbench state? I genuinely just overrode the GameMode_Base (no scripting changes) and things broke. Removed the overridden prefab and it worked fine

went through the steps again and it was all good

[pseudo merlin]

Alright.

[past berry]

How do I get limbs position such as left arm, right foot, etc. in the game world?

[dire sinew]

IEntity::GetBoneMatrix should do the trick

[thorn anchor]

    {
        if (m_ActiveStacks.Contains(notifID))
        {
            StackedNotification stack = m_ActiveStacks.Get(notifID);
            if (stack != null)
            {
                stack.count += 1;
                stack.uiComp.SetText(string.Format("%1X %2", stack.count, stack.value));
                ResetStackedTimer(stack.widget, notifID);
                return;
            }
        }

        Widget widget = GetGame().GetWorkspace().CreateWidgets(NOTIFICATION_POPUP, m_wNotificationHolder);
        CustomNotificationUIComponent uiComp = CustomNotificationUIComponent.Cast(widget.FindHandler(CustomNotificationUIComponent));
        
        StackedNotification stacked = new StackedNotification(widget, uiComp, notifID, value);
        uiComp.SetText(value);
        
        // print check before and after here appears to show that map is still empty.
        m_ActiveStacks.Insert(notifID, stacked);


        Show(true);
        StartStackedFadeOut(widget, notifID);
    }```

My enums dont have actual values assigned to them, so im curious if I need to have values assigned to the enums.

[topaz locust]

What's a good way to get whether a hitzone has started regenerating. The way I've been trying doesn't seem to work

[copper badge]

So when you swap the rocket pod with a gun, why does it not attribute kills correctly when using the vanilla weapons system? Did you guys not plan on us using your weapons system to put guns on it ? lol

that seems like a bit of an oversight on your part

[frosty coral]

How do i get IEntity from RplID?
Is it
IEntity entity = IEntity.Cast(Replication.FindItem(rplID)); ?
Because i get NULL even on the authority. From remote console I run

BaseRplComponent rplComponent = BaseRplComponent.Cast(googa.FindComponent(BaseRplComponent));
RplId rplID = rplComponent.Id();
Print("RPLID: " + rplID);
IEntity entity = IEntity.Cast(Replication.FindItem(rplID));
Print("Entity: " + entity);```
and it gives me
```SCRIPT       : RPLID: 1073742613
SCRIPT       : Entity: NULL```
The entity is loadtime, it obviously has rplComponent and NO "runtime" override

[desert escarp]

class TRP1_Class: SCR_BaseTriggerEntity 
{
    // user script
    SCR_PlayerController pc;

    override void EOnInit(IEntity owner)
    {
        pc = SCR_PlayerController.Cast(GetGame().GetPlayerController());
        vector origin = owner.GetOrigin();
        pc.m_aKnownPoints.Insert(Vector(origin[0], 0, origin[2]));
        int grid1 = Math.Round(origin[0]);
        int grid2 = Math.Round(origin[2]);
        grid1 /= 10;
        grid2 /= 10;
        string grid1s;
        string grid2s;
        
        if (grid1 < 1000)
            grid1s = "0" + grid1.ToString();
        else
            grid1s = grid1.ToString();
        
        if (grid2 < 1000)
            grid2s = "0" + grid2.ToString();
        else
            grid2s = grid2.ToString();
        
        pc.m_aKnownPointsStrings.Insert(grid1s + "-" + grid2s);
        Print("Adding grid" + pc.m_aKnownPointsStrings);
    }

};

Any reason why this isnt firing?

The print statement doesn't even Print

[frosty coral]

eventmask set?

[desert escarp]

No ended up needing to create a seperate member and call it later as the PlayerController was not yet initialized

[thorn anchor]

any clue on how AnimateWidget.Value works?

[dire sinew]

The RplID is referring to the RplComponent here. Casting it to IEntity, will logically result in null.

[dire sinew]

All enum variables have a value. If you don't assign any, it will be 0.

[thorn anchor]

so all the enums will have a value of 0 unless I assign them?

or will they be auto assigned 0+

[dire sinew]

Yes, if you just define ESomeType myVar;, myVar will be 0

[thorn anchor]

but in the instance of map. the enum should be 0 for the first, and 1 for the second enum without me assigning any values? i just realized that the enums were printing out with values. so im still lost why the map wasnt inserting them ngl.

[dire sinew]

Can you please provide a full example that can be run. How should I know what you pass to ShowStackableNotifications...

[thorn anchor]

I deleted the script for now but I can write it again in a bit.

I just pass an enum, then i create a custom class that holds widget/ui components and values. I then insert the enum as the key and the new custom class as a value.

[dire sinew]

Just make a simple self-contained example that showcases your issue

[frosty coral]

Fair enough, sounds like this should solve my problem. Thanks

[thorn anchor]

Im using a few custom components. so im unsure how to have my code.

{
    protected ref map<eNotificationList, StackedNotification> m_ActiveStacks = new map<eNotificationList, StackedNotification>();

    void ShowStackableNotifications(eNotificationList notifID, int value)
    {
        if (m_ActiveStacks.Contains(notifID))
        {
            StackedNotification stack = m_ActiveStacks.Get(notifID);
            if (stack != null)
            {
                stack.count += 1;
                stack.uiComp.SetText(string.Format("%1X %2", stack.count, stack.value));
                return;
            }
        }

        Widget widget = GetGame().GetWorkspace().CreateWidgets(NOTIFICATION_POPUP, m_wNotificationHolder);
        CustomNotificationUIComponent uiComp = CustomNotificationUIComponent.Cast(widget.FindHandler(CustomNotificationUIComponent));
        
        StackedNotification stacked = new StackedNotification(widget, uiComp, notifID, value);
        uiComp.SetText(value);
        
        // print check before and after here appears to show that map is still empty.
        m_ActiveStacks.Insert(notifID, stacked);
    }

    void ShowNotification(eNotificationList notifID, int value)
    {
        if (notifID == eNotificationList.TestValue1)
        {
            ShowStackableNotifications(notifID, value);
            return;
        }
    
        // Regular ui component code for other enums.
    }

    void SendTestValue()
    {
        ShowNotification(eNotificationList.TestValue1, 50)
    }
};

class StackedNotification
{
    Widget widget;
    CustomNotificationUIComponent uiComp;
    eNotificationList enumValue;
    int count;
    int value;
    
    void StackedNotification(Widget widget, CustomNotificationUIComponent uiComp, eNotificationList enumValue, int value)
    {        
        this.widget = widget;
        this.uiComp = uiComp;
        this.enumValue = enumValue;
        this.count = 1;
        this.value = value;
    }
};

enum eNotificationList
{
    TestValue1,
    TestValue2,
    TestValue3,
};```

[past berry]

{
    override event protected void EOnInit(IEntity owner) 
    {
        super.EOnInit(owner);
        if(IsMaster())
        {
            // Setup animatedBloodManager
               BS_AnimatedBloodManager animatedBloodManager = BS_AnimatedBloodManager.GetInstance();
            if (!animatedBloodManager)
            {
                animatedBloodManager = BS_AnimatedBloodManager.Cast(GetGame().SpawnEntity(BS_AnimatedBloodManager, GetGame().GetWorld(), null));

                // Use SetInstance() instead of direct access
                if (animatedBloodManager)
                    BS_AnimatedBloodManager.SetInstance(animatedBloodManager);
            }

            // Ensure animatedBloodManager is valid before scheduling functions
            if (animatedBloodManager)
            {
                // it works fine. If it breaks, we're fucked.
                GetGame().GetCallqueue().CallLater(animatedBloodManager.failSafe, 30000, true); // Runs every 30 seconds 30000 ms
            
            }
        }
    }
};```** I'm about to lose my mind, this code works fine on local devices but when run on a server the function I call with GetGame().GetCallqueue().CallLater() does not create a loop. what is the best way to call a function loop when the game starts? what am I doing wrong?**

In 1.2 it worked without any problem. I'm not sure if something is breaking the loop or not starting it at all.

[pliant ingot]

Where does the damage to the armor of burning vehicles come from? I try to hijack it but it continue to receive damage except that no any other parts is damaging

[candid garnet]

You probably should transition into using a system (frame) instead of using the call queue

[outer chasm]

Hi,
each time I try to add a script in the Object Properties I get a Can't compile "Entities" module. Even though I let the workbench create the script file itself and just add a super to what it made. I understand that I'm missing something quite obvious, but being new to scripting I don't get it at all.
For example here's what inside the On Player Killed:
`class GameMode_Campaign1_Class: SCR_GameModeCampaign
{
override void OnPlayerKilled(int playerId, IEntity playerEntity, IEntity killerEntity, Instigator killer)
{
super.OnPlayerKilled();
}

};`

[open pier]

Possibly better to make your own GameModeComponent script that inherits SCR_GameModeComponent and attach it to your gamemode. It seems to have most if not all the same functions that GameMode has

[dire sinew]

First mistake is the definition of the map. It should of type map<eNotificationList, ref StackedNotification>, otherwise StackedNotification will get hit by the GC and become null.

[red escarp]

Hi,
I have a menu script that works fine in the editor and offline, but it doesn't open at all on the server. Can you help me identify the issue?

[teal vapor]

Is there a way to get the concrete type name a variable that was downcasted to an interface? i.e. I have an IEntity and want to see what it's a concrete instance of

[thorn anchor]

Ahhhh hard reference the new stackednotification. Is that why it could be not inserting or not holding reference. Would GC be removing it within seconds?

[shadow oxide]

I've create a override void for EOnFrame within a class that inherits from ScriptComponent, however the contents of the method do not run. Does anyone have any suggestions?

override void EOnFrame(IEntity owner, float timeSlice)
{
      Print("test");
};

EDIT: For anyone stuck with this, Sa-Matra's suggestion of "SetEventMask(owner, EntityEvent.FRAME); on init" was the solution

I have a override for PostInit in the same class and it works fine

[craggy jolt]

Probably missing SetEventMask(owner, EntityEvent.FRAME); on init?

So I'm creating two UAZs with SpawnEntityPrefabLocal inside a newly created world to display the world in RenderTargetWidget and since unknown point in time it started bugging out with this error. I thought it had to do with resources being released or something but apparently its supply system used in Conflict? Apparently this setup worked before 1.3 but I'm not sure. Any ideas how to solve this?

Apparently it errors out right after SpawnEntityPrefabLocal, I don't even get a chance to try to disable the SCR_ResourceComponent component

Apparently apparently apparently

[thorn anchor]

Have a constructor method?

[candid garnet]

use a system instead of EOnFrame if applicable. what are you trying to do in total?

[solid hearth]

It is indeed the supply system for conflict, if it worked before but not now it's probably just the patch, this patch has a lot of issues specially around the resource system Most of the time though with errors like that don't worry too much as they'll fix them selves or not effect the client in a super negative way, it is however annoying for you in workbench. When it starts to crash you in workbench that's when you should be really concerned.

[craggy jolt]

Thanks. I guess I have no choice but to just leave it for now.

[solid hearth]

The question is when exactly did it stop working, was it a few days or since the patch, if it was still within the same patch then there might be something you're doing but I can't imagine what. That's an odd-ball error that pops up from time to time.

[craggy jolt]

I had it working before 1.3 but I don't remember if I ran it after until now.

[solid hearth]

Then it probably could just be the patch unless you're modifying the vehicle's prefab but doesn't sound like it. Could also try a different vehicle and see if it happens*

[craggy jolt]

Works with another vehicle so far

[solid hearth]

Then the vehicle prefab is bugged, it happens. Like I said don't fret to much about it, that particular error will happen from time to time but from my experience it's nothing serious, I've had it happen a few just by opening assets in the world editor. So long as your workbench isn't crashing it's w/e and shouldn't popup on a production client.

Welcome to Reforger, you got interested at the worst time

[craggy jolt]

"{259EE7B78C51B624}Prefabs/Vehicles/Wheeled/UAZ469/UAZ469.et" => bugs out
"{16A674FE31B0921C}Prefabs/Vehicles/Wheeled/UAZ469/UAZ469_uncovered.et" => bugs out
"{B6D330E7E40FE7DD}Prefabs/Vehicles/Wheeled/UAZ469/UAZ469_covered_CIV_forest.et" => fine

[solid hearth]

[craggy jolt]

Okay, now those that were fine bug out too

Workbench restart makes all work again, I wonder for how long

[solid hearth]

Yeah.. get used to restarting workbench a lot, it's so bad this patch..

[craggy jolt]

I suspect it could be my resource management after all

[solid hearth]

Also note worthy if you start messing with custom key inputs (keybinds) you'll have to restart every time you create a new one.

[craggy jolt]

Well, it is indeed a certified Arma modding experience

So yeah, stuff breaks after scripts recompilation

I store resources, entities and the world right in the menu class in this test, must be that

[past berry]

    override void EOnFrame(IEntity owner, float timeSlice)
    {
        currentime += timeSlice;
        if (currentime >= 60.0)
        {
            // your func.
            currentime = 0;
            
        }
    }``` thankyou @candid garnet I think timer like this would work.

[craggy jolt]

Should be currenttime -= 60; ☝️🤓

[past berry]

why explain please

[craggy jolt]

No real reason, just not to lose milliseconds

[river imp]

Should definitely be += timeSlice

[past berry]

i think he mention currentime = 0; this part

[craggy jolt]

Yeah, meant after 60 seconds passed

[river imp]

And you'd still want to set it to 0 after.

In 20+ years I've never seen anyone do -= 60

But you do you lol

[ocean kernel]

currentTime += -60

[solid hearth]

Slap some modulus in there while you're at it

[teal vapor]

Anyone have tips for how I might get the SCR_CampaignMilitaryBaseComponent from a SCR_SupplyComponent, if that supply component is located in a base? Trying to navigate the moving pieces of the supply system is a bit tricky.

Right now my problem is, I have a component but its root parent is the sign entity.

My end goal is to identify if the supply component belongs to a supply cache or particular faction's base.

[red escarp]

Yes

[solid hearth]

is there an easy way to test and create layouts that will be used on a rendertexture or is it really just a guessing game

[dark ocean]

it depends on the logic. setting jt to 0 will cause the timer to drift over long period of time, which in most cases is not desired

[ocean kernel]

move them out of the render target widget and set the workspace dimensions to a square (if you project them on a mesh)

[minor agate]

@craggy jolt this is why the first thing i explaines in the anim bootcamp #3 is to always test things with DS tool instead.

As you get rid of WB caching things, which to the naked eye is not always apparent why and how

That way you get a direct fresh testing environment

Ps, DS tool. Not peer tool. They are not the same

Peer tool uses wb which will stay cached if it happened

[solid hearth]

Peer client stopped working for me with WB localhost so i'm forced into DS

[ocean kernel]

Why so overcomplicated? Just make a button to disable caching.

You have to do this because if you dont then it wont work because of this other thing. Just make stuff work, dude.

[minor agate]

Because if we do not csche things

Then you will complain about mega slower wb

[solid hearth]

There's caching? That might explain why world editor is a dud for me now, every time I boot in with it I have to close the tools entirely.

[ocean kernel]

And making a clear cache button is impossible to implement?

[solid hearth]

worst trade deal in the history of trade deals

[dire sinew]

There are some additional issues. For instance, you cannot recompile while the animation editor is open.

[solid hearth]

I'm gonna be honest, this patch is brutal, it's a death sentence for WB right now. Borderline unusable.

[ocean kernel]

Speaking of animation editor. I got this and whole WB frozen within 5 minutes of starting to work on a project.

I have insane respect to BI for being able to build Reforger up until now with how ludicrously bad the tools are.

[dire sinew]

It's technically fine, once you figured out its quirks 😅

[minor agate]

Internal version is always more stable

[solid hearth]

I'll take one please.

server pdb as well

thanks

[ocean kernel]

That makes sense. In retrospect I don't think the team would still be around if it was as bad as what I have to go through. And then you guys ask me why I don't want to bother with MANW.

[minor agate]

You would suffer less if you used exp tbh

Bug fixes faster

[dire sinew]

Isn't exp behind right now 😅

[ocean kernel]

As opposed to stable? Weird name considering

[minor agate]

Exp is more as preview

Mostly there for modders to be ahead for when srable updates

[ocean kernel]

Thats an excuse btw. Would be better if the tools didn't crash and revert my changes. Or at least tell me what's going wrong instead of crashing with zero logs or showing error boxes with zero content.

[solid hearth]

I prefer to wake up one morning and see everything that breaks at once.

[minor agate]

Whenever that happens, remeber what you did and report

Otherwise hard to fix or realize

Also do not ignore the crash window if it appears

[ocean kernel]

How about test your software before you ship it

[minor agate]

Its tested

But we do not use every combination possible tjay you might do

Its impossible with complex software

[ocean kernel]

Oh I'm just venting dw

I have limited time to work on hobbies. If I sit down to do something and see an error box with no content within 5 minutes along with complete freeze of the program, I turn it off and go do something else.

[solid hearth]

They probably a special category of testing json stuff because of you bacon

[ocean kernel]

I dunno about the testing part. Somehow they shipped a version of the game that freezes when a round completes. They didnt play the game for an entire round before shipping?

[solid hearth]

Just make a game mode that never ends

Problem solved

[ocean kernel]

It is, since it freezes

[solid hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-point-debate-argument-angel-gif-17274775

Guess I lucked out on that fun issue since mine never ends

[ocean kernel]

Dw it'll freeze on linux servers eventually

But for completely unrelated reasons

[solid hearth]

I can't use linux because my partner is a dummy

[ocean kernel]

Well on Windows it will be a bit more stable, that 5% performance loss is probably worth it for stability

[minor agate]

Get 5% better hardware

[solid hearth]

Until this patch performance has never really been an issue, stable 60 but for whatever reason it's all over the place this patch for the first 5 hours then after that it smooths out back to 60

[ocean kernel]

If you are on Windows then Intel CPU will run Reforger faster

If you are on AMD CPU then Lunix runs it faster

[solid hearth]

I almost delayed shipping a box off cause I wanted to cram a 9950X3D in it but good thing I didn't

first batch is duds apparently

[ocean kernel]

I'll find out this week

atm 9800X3D > 7950X3D > 9950X

[solid hearth]

yeah but $545 > $575 > $700

[ocean kernel]

What

[solid hearth]

cpu prices

[ocean kernel]

Idk which one is the 7950x3d

[solid hearth]

last one

[ocean kernel]

no way

[solid hearth]

yes way look at amd.com

[ocean kernel]

ok so they went up a bit

[solid hearth]

They've been $699 for awhile and I've only ever seen it in stock there.

[ocean kernel]

They cost $500 once

For a bit

Well nvm

[solid hearth]

That'd be a bit weird since the msrp was originially 659

I'll have a 9950x3d by this weekend but that's for personal use.

[solid hearth]

Get me off this time bomb known as intel

[ocean kernel]

it go up

stonks

[solid hearth]

GAMESTOP??

[ocean kernel]

rip gamestop

[dire sinew]

I still couldn't figure out what kind of operation MatrixInvMultiply3 does 😅
I thought my math was off, but turned out if I use MatrixGetInverse3+MatrixMultiply3, I get what I originally wanted to calculate.

[shadow oxide]

I'm tracking inputs, I saw in here and in examples on the workbench that you need to activate the actions context every frame. I'll try sa-matra and yeeters suggestions later today. But if you have any then I'm all ears!

[dire sinew]

A lot of the base game code also doesn't follow best practices. In proper ECS, systems are meant for game logic and components for data. As Hypoxic told you, you should implement the frame handler with a system.

[candid garnet]

To provide more reading material for systems:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entity_component_system

https://community.bistudio.com/wikidata/external-data/arma-reforger/EnfusionScriptAPIPublic/Page_WorldSystems.html

It was kinda daunting at first, but it makes sense when it clicks.

[shadow oxide]

^ I feel like I understand this concept reasonably well. Im newish it oop but not scripting in general, and have used Unity for awhile which uses a component system.

Im using the scripted camera free fly script as an examply and it just calls a method from its OnFrame loop.

Is that just wildly wrong then? Could you elaborate a bit on what you mean by using a system?

[dire sinew]

In ECS, you would register this camera to a system that does the frame handling. If you have specific member variables that the system operates on, you can make a component on the camera that stores said data.

A typical example is how we implemented the cardiovascular system. While a character is alive it has a cardiovascular component registered at the cardiovascular system. The system iterates over all registered components and updates them.

[ocean kernel]

Or

Just do it in some way thats convenient for you and works

Most mods dont need to bother with systems

[dire sinew]

Maybe specifically for the camera you could argue that a system is overkill, as you will never have to operate on more than one camera

[ocean kernel]

No clue what the guy is making tho

[shadow oxide]

I'm re-creating the free fly camera's controls so that I can use it while a dialog is open. Since the dialog is accepting inputs, none of my inputs reach the camera in the background, so im catching the inputs and manually transforming the camera

Because the camera isnt recognizing inputs, im not sure a component on the camera would work. It would probably have to be on the UI instead....

[dire sinew]

Though separation of concerns would be an argument for systems here. The camera already does camera stuff, so a system responsible for handling the controlling would make sense.

[late locust]

https://feedback.bistudio.com/T184746 I guess not fixed in 1.3

[shadow oxide]

@dire sinew Would you know of any examples or documentation I can reference for the type of systems you're talking about within reforger?

[dire sinew]

As for documentations, see the link Hypoxic sent.

[torn bane]

it has not been worked on yet, i have raised it again. We have a larger backlog of "smaller" tickets we are trying to fit between the bigger tasks so they do not sit on the bench for months. Thx for your understanding. Do keep making tickets please though, we eventually get to all of them

[late locust]

Are crashes like these not on top of the list?

[ocean kernel]

What happened to that parachute not saving in arsenal ticket I made

Mr Arkensor

[teal vapor]

Re-asking a question from last night: Anyone have tips for how I might get the SCR_CampaignMilitaryBaseComponent from a SCR_SupplyComponent, if that supply component is located in a base? Trying to navigate the moving pieces of the supply system is a bit tricky.

Right now my problem is, I have a component but its root parent is the sign entity.

My end goal is to identify if the supply component belongs to a supply cache or particular faction's base.

[torn bane]

it is sitting in my backlog for later this month, have been busy with other wirk before.

[solid hearth]

Look into the SCR_CampaignBuildingDisassemblyUserAction for Building provider code. Building provider is usually the entity that has MilitaryBaseComponent. It'll be that or doing a search query for entities with XX component in X radius which is the ugly way.

[fringe prairie]

I’d say the only downside to systems only approach is some things can only be perceived or done by clients. So calculations could be done by system but it depends on certain information.

Like if you need something very precise like player control, for example, having it go through a system subjects it to packet loss or an unreasonable delay.

[dire sinew]

You can have a client-only system though

[thorn anchor]

@dire sinew the hard ref in my map was the issue, thank you!

[teal vapor]

Great tip, thank you. I was actually poking around that code but didn't even consider it for this purpose lol

[frosty coral]

Is there any unobvious caveats in using RplComponent's Auto Hierarchy tick? Or is there any substantial reasons why it should not be used? I'm doing a lot of child-parent assignments/unassignments and this thing looks like it could save me a ton of headache.

[teal vapor]

Anyone have debugger tricks for visualizing entity/component hierarchy? Or even just seeing the concrete instance type of a GenericEntity or IEntity ?

[minor agate]

That is for entity hierarchy

About component and such, there is none except for checking it in the prefab itself

[teal vapor]

Thank you so much

on the topic of the diag menu, are you supposed to hold CTRL+WIN the entire time you engage it? or should it be toggle? using arrow keys switches virtual desktop space when using the world editor lmao

i feel schizo switching VDs all the time

[minor agate]

use LCtrl + Win + LAlt

[teal vapor]

thank you. idk how frequently people are browsing this channel but I know I've been asking a ton of questions and appreciate all of the helpful responses. Picking up a lot very quickly

[minor agate]

That is what this channel is for 🙂 Feel free to ask

[minor agate]

Don't try. The math is borked on it

[dire sinew]

Should I make a ticket for it?

Provided that it was supposed to calculate A * B^-1

[minor agate]

No, it's on radar already

[teal vapor]

Now to show off the fruits of my labor + your folks' help