How to lead some people?
#old_man_feedback
winged inlet
alpine hornet
in Old Man you can't, it's a lonewolf scenario
jovial jasper
Calling in L'Ensemble insurgent teams to attack CSAT/Gendarmerie outposts and bases is all you can do. Can't command a squad of your own unless you use something like SSPCM + Zeus to spawn in your own units.
winged inlet
Calling in L'Ensemble insurgent teams to attack CSAT/Gendarmerie outposts and ba...
How can I call them?
jovial jasper
If you have positive relations to them you can arrange for an attack at a L'Ensemble hideout (look for a whiteboard or table with a map).
Or alternately arrange for an attack over the phone.
winged inlet
Alr thank you
fast nebula
out of curiosity, do you have "new" or older hardware?
wiki says the radio bug got fixed, though
alpine hornet
I haven't seen that bug last time I played it
Are you sure you're not playing the workshop Beta version
fast nebula
i think the workshop beta is an empty file now
however, one bug that i always get is with miller - i can never be in time, he won't spawn. have to go to the area, then leave the area, then i'll get the message about being late and after that he is there
jovial jasper
It's a part of his dialogue. There's no alternate dialogue for getting there early so he'll always chastise you for being "late".
The radio bug thing shouldn't be happening in the release version. Was fixed back in the beta around the time Santiago's home furniture was lethal.
Then again...anything can start happening if you save/load the scenario enough times.
fast nebula
yeah, the load/cache system seems to work fine until it gets a hiccup of sorts and then it's game over.
as far as i can tell, it can't really fix itself, so once you have any issue there, it'll persist till the end of time
when i was playing lately, the syndikat attack quest seems to be kinda broken. i get the task that syndikat will attack location x and time y. when i get near the location, i'll get a phone call with "ok, we'll go now" and then the task is set as completed... nothing happens anymore after that
i can reproduce that in the attack task of the location where you have to bomb that one house in the beginning.
languid dove
The radio bug is definitely still there. I had it warned others and they had it too
fast nebula
there's also some funny script errors, which i fixed now 😄
tough root
I know that Bohemia's focus is more directed to Reforger and Arma 4's development
BUT
I think it would be a good idea to include some of the stuff from upcoming and recently added CDLCs into the Old Man scenario. Specifically some of Western Sahara's firearms, or even the AP-5 Bustard drone.
jovial jasper
Lexx (the creator of WS) already made an edited version that you can play on the Workshop:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2873258873
tough root
I know that there's a mod for this in the workshop, but I believe Bohemia could do a better integration
jovial jasper
That ship's sailed unfortunately. There won't be any updates/bugfixes for OM, let alone content integration for WS.
tough root
Awh
fast nebula
I know that there's a mod for this in the workshop, but I believe Bohemia could ...
how do you define "better" here? e.g. any examples of what should be done different
tough root
For example, usage of western Sahara gear by both CSAT and L'Ensemble
As well as no need to own the DLC to use the gear, like with the IDAP and Contact DLC stuff in Old Man.
But that last one is unnecessary as I see it.
fast nebula
i didnt do 1st on purpose
the idea was to not disrupt the original gameplay as much as possible
the way it is right now, the player himself can decide if and what weapon he wants to use - might as well ignore all of them while still having the other benefits (bugfixes etc)
serene whale
no fix mod for DLC-less?
fast nebula
no, too much work to maintain two projects
you can just run it with compatibility data (however, the usual dlc restrictions apply then)
celest fable
Anyone know how can i fix the UI in Oldman? only the Alarm button works..
alpine hornet
Restart the scenario
Start from beginning I mean, saving can break some stuff there
celest fable
so am i supposed to not die at all then?
alpine hornet
Kinda yeah, old man systems are wacky and can break when you save where the devs didn't plan it
Safest playthrough is without dying and no manual saving or saving at all
zinc glade
without dying
😳
languid dove
I made it at least without dyeing 😄
alpine hornet
> without dying
😳
I did my own "ironman" playthrough
celest fable
i guess you can do the whole game with minimal combat
alpine hornet
Yeah, all you need to finish is just to complete the last task
languid dove
You can go straight for the island, but then it's not much of experiencing it.
zinc glade
I'm not a fan of ANY% runs 😄
serene whale
(Im the only person with an ANY% of Old Man speedrun.com(but theres more on YT))
Manual saving always worked fine for me on Old Man however I needed to clear the settings folder at some point because the game got very broken after many saves
dapper bay
It's a part of his dialogue. There's no alternate dialogue for getting there ear...
he didn't with me
frank hull
Playing Old Man on a fresh Arma install and no mods and after the first save + loading my "M" menu "phone" got its icons messed up... So now if I click the Call Log it opens up the "Contacts" submenu and both the "INTEL" and "CONTACTS" icons don't do anything now. Anyway to force that UI element to "Reload" so it is fixed?
digital kraken
i would do a search in here to see if someone else solved it
i could never play a single playthru without that happening
fast nebula
it can get corrupted if the savegame gets too big or you reload too often
i tried to fix it a while ago, but i don't even understand half of how the mechanic works
most of the fixes i did for OM are just hacky workarounds that let you finish the game even if major parts of the quest system are bugging out
digital kraken
The only way I have actually gotten near the end is to only fast travel and single session
Loading and saving screws things a lot
One of the designers told me you can go to the end location and finish it without doing the whole thing but even that didn't work for me
fast nebula
it's shame, because the scenario in itself is very good. i like the virus outbreak theme a lot
reminds me of those old virus outbreak movies
i've tried to delete the hud and reinitialize it, but like said, couldn't figure out how to do it. it's a super complex mechanic
near tree
Sadly the whole thing is written without any good practices. Looking into the code can give you nightmares.
fast nebula
best is the lack of any comments for anything 😄
fast nebula
now i remember.. there are 2 major issues that can f things up: 1. the interface breaks (serialized variables issue). best identified if you load a savegame and see that the clock is set to the current daytime, but then won't advance anymore. this is annoying, but the mission is still playable. the 2. issue is the quest system breaking. i could not figure out what is causing this. every function related to the quests still works, but for some reason, even though the conditions are true, quest states won't change. this is what i fixed in my OM mod with workarounds. so while the actual quest system was broken, i was still able to read quest states and set them to how they should be with a crowbar, so players could continue.
frank hull
It is truly sad because Old Man can be (when it works) one of the most unique experiences possible in Arma 3. I am still impressed that you guys tried to fix it even it wasn't possible in the end
"Half baked" can almost be synonymous to BI sometimes, hopefully that will/should change with A4 🙏
We should actually be happy that an official campaign came so close to being "as good as other AAA campaigns". Imagine if the quest system/UI did not break and it had coop. It would have been just TOO GOOD to be Arma 
The same with Contact. It came truly close to being AAA level. Even if it did not exploit the sandbox nature of A3 as well as Old Man. If Contact had its assets fully exposed to modders then the alien invasion theme would have made a lot more noise on the workshop level and therefore also in the DLC's sales potential
digital kraken
best is the lack of any comments for anything 😄
compare it to contact 😄 Karel Moricky being a legend
serene whale
it can get corrupted if the savegame gets too big or you reload too often
In my experience it isnt the save itself, but setting files related to them, Ive saved a lot with no save/load issues
digital kraken
in my testing, it is the act of saving and reloading the game
i have not had stuff breaking if i don't don't die :3
wary current
very interesting storyline, the execution however was chaotic and buggy as many of you know. It really pinned down the fun I was having while playing the scenario, it's truly a shame that BI wasted so much potential here, but on the other hand I understand the decision of devs of not making the necessary efforts to fix all the bugs because from what I heard about the code, it's not pretty
alpine hornet
it was made through Incubator and as Incubator states, it's "label for experimental games that are made available to the public", so the bugginess is kinda expected
ruby crane
good dlc imo, buy it if it's in sale
inner stone
Is it normal that Old Man has so much stutter? Especially when driving around... and this is at the very start of the mission.
alpine hornet
yes and no, depends on many factors.
iirc stuff shown in each city/village you go through is a separate mission that is loaded into the currently loaded scenario. If you have a lot of mods or a faulty/slow disk it may stutter
inner stone
Found the issue with some modlist bisecting. It's caused by the Aegis/Atlas/etc series of mods. That's quite annoying, because I really like those.
alpine hornet
they replace base factions, that's probably the culprit
inner stone
Not sure - I tend to have those mods loaded if I play 2035 setting and it's never a problem. But perhaps there are scripts in Old Man that expect certain things. The stutter is definitely of the scripted kind, repeating every second or so.
eternal badger
Got a bit of a technical problem with the Old Man scenario on Arma 3. When I reach the point at which Keystone tells me to take the thumb drive the mission description doesn’t update when I pick it up. Hence, when I try to plug it into the computer tower at the sawmill it does nothing even if I don’t have a CSAT security card. In other words, I’m stuck at this point in the mission. I did some Google searches on possible fixes but didn’t find anything helpful, so I’m wondering if anyone here happens to have any ideas on how to fix this issue.
jovial jasper
Without access to the debug console there's not much you can do, I'm afraid.
You can ignore that quest by the way. It's not actually mandatory to do and you can bypass the sentry guns on Tuvanaka Island.
eternal badger
Oh, so I’ll have to physically go to the island?
jovial jasper
You have to go to the island on your own regardless. It's the main quest for the scenario after all.
eternal badger
Kk
jovial jasper
Disabling the sentry guns just makes it slightly less risky but you can still get past them so long as you wear a disguise and don't walk too close to the autoturrets.
eternal badger
Guess I’ll do it that way in that case. Thanks.
Just out of curiosity, is there a way to initiate that quest other than failing with the hard drive?
Im a little nervous it might not work if it’s not actively listed.
jovial jasper
The main quest? You can attempt it from the very start and finish the scenario even if Miller doesn't tell you about it.
All it requires is blowing up the biolab so you'll need some satchels.
eternal badger
Huh, alright.
eternal badger
Okay, for some reason nothing happened when I interacted with the computer.
serene whale
All it requires is blowing up the biolab so you'll need some satchels.
The C4 you get at the start works too if you place it on the truck, then place that truck right next to the big storage tank
(If I understand correctly, the C4 is weaker than a satchel, so as far as I know you need to place it more precisely/use multiple)
Or you can steal a jet 
(😢please contest my speedrun)
mortal coral
All it requires is blowing up the biolab so you'll need some satchels.
I never knew this haha
worn fossil
grim arrow
roger
ocean yew
Old man is the single best piece of bohemia content for arma 3 I've ever played
It's nice reducing the scale of arma down sometimes
proud furnace
beta version of Arma 3 Apex: Old Man https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1938939381
ionic pond
old thorn
This is really noice
progressed a lot, killed a bunch of csat, got myself fully geared. But forgot to save and died, lol.
golden burrow
do you want #OldMan feedback tracker issues also pasted into here @proud furnace ?
proud furnace
sure, why not
golden burrow
Reported a bunch this morning, all from RPT:
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T147521
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T147522
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T147524
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T147525
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T147526
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T147527
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T147528
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T147529
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T147530
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T147531
near tree
Eye Protection is important, especially in area with high UV exposure. 👌
quiet jungle
Yeah, accents are not showing hehe
Also, some advanced hints still have quotes around them
weary idol
After work I'll start reporting the eye candy stuff (dog stuck running in house, barricades falling over. etc)
golden burrow
dog's running in houses is normal, just pray there's no glass doors 😄
stray prawn
Can I ask about story related stuff here? Some things are confusing me.
weary idol
But his head is halfway through the floor 😉
digital kraken
put it in spoiler
stray prawn
Where?
warped peak
||those spoilers||
weary idol
And do remember that Old Man is in Beta and is not the complete version and may change before release.
stray prawn
On mobile
warped peak
works the same way iirc
stray prawn
2 other questions
What all containers can I use to store stuff?
What all do checkpoints check when scanning your vehicle?
And how do I end it?
stray prawn
/spoiler like this?
golden burrow
||I stash my weapons inside the vehicle instead of on me, went through checkpoint without issues, if that is why you are asking||
weary idol
||this is a spoiler||
stray prawn
/spoiler trying
golden burrow
/spoiler your message goes here
try || like this || instead
weary idol
yes
warped peak
there ya go
stray prawn
Ok. ||What exactly is the malaria medicine that the doc needs? And where exactly is it in the camp?||
warped peak
/spoiler is PC only I think
weary idol
||You have to look for it. The story tells you all you need to know||
stray prawn
||should I just take the truck full of medkits to him?||
golden burrow
what FM said ☝️
stray prawn
||the contact just said it's at the camp||
golden burrow
||he also tells you where when you get there||
weary idol
||So, search the camp||
Old Man is a semi-open world mission. Think Far Cry in a sense. Choose the path you want, when you want, unless its the wrong choice, then dont do that....
high bear
and some tasks have multiple ways to complete 😉
weary idol
Sort of like "Hey guys watch this!" Sometimes it ends well, but often it doesn't
golden burrow
im loving the non-linear gameplay, it's very different from most of the campaigns
weary idol
Its really messed with my newer tactics
stray prawn
||this is more along the lines of what exactly am I looking for?||
weary idol
I'm having to resort to my OFP ways. Things like wait, look, count, plot patrol routes
||Medicine||
golden burrow
yeah, thinking is hard 😂
warped peak
need to grab a calculator for the counting
warped peak
that's some high mathematics right there
golden burrow
oof
weary idol
I forgot how much I enjoyed Tanoa though
stray prawn
||also, if the meds aren't there, it could be a bug||
golden burrow
||they are, keep looking.||
weary idol
||No one has yet reported that they aren't there||
warm socket
has anyone noticed yet that the static 50s with the shields are kind of flimsy?
like, you shoot the shields a bunch of times and the entire turret breaks
stray prawn
||is it the camp near where you meet keystone? Or the camp near where you blow up the house?||
||wish we got coordinates alongside||
golden burrow
||protip: go to the map screen and check on your phone, highlighted lines of text when selected will center the map on those areas||
stray prawn
||tried that, location isn't highlighted||
high bear
||when you get the mission to find the dealer for the medicine you are send to a location, here you'll have a conversation with the dealer on how to get medicine from him, and it creates a new task you need to do before he gives it||
golden burrow
intel is important in this scenario, need to keep that in mind.
quiet jungle
all this ||[REDACTED]]|| channel 😂
high bear
we don't want to spoil anything, although some things (like semi-general questions) can be asked normally
golden burrow
yea, anything story / scenario related ||gets spoilered||
stray prawn
Any safe stashes where I can store equipment without losing it over time?
golden burrow
I'll let you know when I load up the game later 😄
in the meantime, play it and try the many things you are asking,. then you will find out 👍
stray prawn
Is the house safe? Kinda need to stow some stuff to go ahead
weary idol
The best answer we can give is "give it a try". The mission has just been released and no one that has commented on it has yet completed it.
quiet jungle
act as you would do in real life!
weary idol
Drink Beer? 🍺
high bear
rage quit when it doesn't work?
weary idol
I've never understood why people do that
frozen current
Dinking Beer?
weary idol
rage quitting
quiet jungle
beer quitting?
frozen current
I've never understood why people do that
digital kraken
Some times you just have too much beer over a period
build up immunity
then you have to quit for a while
quiet jungle
no space between pipes @ruby crane
frozen linden
There is some offhand Old Man feedback here
https://www.reddit.com/r/arma/comments/ec8s4h/grade_a_shitposting_for_a_job_well_done_bi/
digital kraken
more single player campaigns please!
proper lantern
|| koba..
kind hare
at literally the first mission ||When the guy asks you to grab the bomb for him, he just exits my car and goes into his house, a bit confusing, I kow it tells me to look in the shack but everything looks like a shack so I looked for 3 minutes inside every house like an idiot, he could be more specific or go in the shack himself||
proper lantern
Ye I was there like: what do you want now?
Checked map a bit after and there it was marked.
stray prawn
||is there anything to find in the abandoned CSAT camp in oumere?||
gritty cloak
Anyone else had issues with the fast travel sort of borking out?
timid carbon
grim meadow
there is non-spoilering feedback, and feedback that includes spoilers
stray prawn
||cause either that stuff is too well hidden, or the mission isn't progressing at all. I've been through what appears to be the entire camp, and the mission still isnt complete||
scenic mulch
Could it be possible to also fast travel with vehicles? That'd be sick, as I keep all my gear inside of them.
Also, I'm having a few perfomance issues. I got a pretty bad CPU (2.67ghz, along with 10 gigs of cheap ram and a 4g graphic card) but I keep on dipping below 15-20 FPS, and rarely go over 30.
vital walrus
Tanoa+lots of scripting+2.67Ghz=15-20fps
fast nebula
and people want to play it in multiplayer... imagine the performance :>
weary idol
One day people will stop using FPS as an indicator.
ashen juniper
One day people will stop using FPS as an indicator.
doubt...
kids are just uneducated
digital kraken
but yeah generally arma is a 30fps game in big missions
ashen juniper
i played arma 2 at 12-15FPS and had a blast
scenic mulch
I don't mind 30 FPS, but getting stutters between 5-10 FPS is slightly annoying
mostly during combat 😦
digital kraken
haven't ducked below 25 or so on mine except a few moments when going into new area
scenic mulch
Yeah it may be due to poor optimization of the game itself, let me try some stuff online hopefully it'll get better
weary idol
Auto detect is your friend
near tree
You can't expect high fps with low clock cpu.
ashen juniper
scenic mulch
Actually some feedback: I've noticed that when the CSAT drones fly around your vehicle during a checkpoint, they sometimes damage themselves. When I drove a Zamak into the control, it got slightly damaged.
also omg, did you guys add A2 music? I just heard 'Niemandsland' on the radio!
high bear
there are 60+ tracks for the radio (and some news topics), but I can't see what they are
frank hull
Are we allowed to port the Old Man scenario to other maps, lets say, Malden for example?
digital kraken
it is APL-SA
weary idol
I wouldn’t do it just yet though, it’s neither finished nor finalised.
crude laurel
taking a short break after the physics engine launched my 4WD into space and lost me 30mins of work
other than that, really enjoying it
high bear
still better than Kart DLC 🤣
although that was the best April Fools I've ever seen in gaming history
fierce tangle
Do you meet Keystone at the time he stated or before. Cuz I’m chilling where he’s supposed (before the time he gave) and he ain’t here
high bear
I went there before, waited till the given time and he didn't show up... Only after I moved around a bit (out of sight of his spawn location) he sent me a message telling me I'm late 🤣
high bear
just walk back to the path and walk back to the marker position
fierce tangle
Ok, thank you much
crude laurel
yeah the spawning seems to assume you're not in the area
ruby crane
yeah that could be smoothed somehow
I've also seen patrols pop into existence out of the blue
I guess theres no easy way around that
at the start theres some subtitle text dialog that has french names with the letter e with an accent on it
these letetrs dont display
"é " etc
really liking the mission, havent noticed big bugs so far
coarse oracle
Can anyone tell me what i need to make photos off in the csat camp
So far i got:
||Whiteboard in tent||
||Tire tracks||
||Body bags||
||Bloody beds||
But still not complete
fierce tangle
Look on the floor of the building, and outside next to some sandbags
coarse oracle
can you be more specific ?
quiet jungle
(in spoilers tags)
coarse oracle
cant find anything on the floor in the building or next to supplies that i can take a picture off
oh wth... a ||document|| that i checked a dozen times suddenly worked when i looked at it in first-person
sly sandal
So some feedback:
- I think the ATV should have a helmet in the inventory, maybe add a visual effect when you put it on?
- Option to sit at your desk.
I'm liking it so far, just feel there is a ton of little immersion things you can do.
coarse oracle
argh... died at a checkpoint
CSAT guy pulls me in with an animation
then gives the go ahead animation
and the i get "HE'S NOT LISTENING... SHOOT HIM!"
quiet jungle
safety 1-second wait needed 😄
sly sandal
I also think this DLC would be a excellent time to force First person only, and remove the hud. 😄
Actually use the gauges and such on vehicles.
mild tapir
Wanted to play the mission today, but I started with 25fps and ended up with 18. Anyone else having fps issues?
quiet jungle
I had, disabled PiP and it's quite OK
sly sandal
So at the ||initial outbreak checkpoint, parked my truck see if I could talk to IDAP folks. Police freaked out started pointing there guns, got in my truck...then they all just migrated north....didn't shoot at me(although I felt if I left my truck they would of). Eventually just drove through the zone because there was no one at the barricade||. Guessing bug?
high bear
currently in-game with 50+ FPS (i7-9700K, 32GB RAM, RTX 2080 8GB)
weary idol
I disabled pip years ago. Typically good for >10 fps boost
high bear
settings all HIGH
sly sandal
Reduce your view distance
mild tapir
view distance is at 2k/1.5k
weary idol
I use auto detect and have no issues. 16 GB RAM, GTX970
sly sandal
Honestly just set your settings to lowest of lows and work your way up
sly sandal
The authority to player interactions definitely need bit more fine tuned.
You! Leave!.
*Get in truck to leave
You! Get out of the truck!
*Gets out.
You! leave right now!(Points gun)
stray crescent
seems a bit weird how there's no saving possible
just lost like an hour and a half of progress
which is pretty frustrating, because otherwise it has been very enjoyable, but it kinda makes me not want to play
anyone else feel this?
high bear
if I'm correct it saves when you sleep in a safe house or on a sleeping bag
not to mention you can cheese it by ESC -> Save & Quit 😉
fierce tangle
Also, frags are $45 a piece. Make some easy money that way
fossil spear
Touching something instantly damages you
sly sandal
Like?
high bear
guess someone walked over a campfire 😉
nova rose
Or had a Me Too moment 😉
ruby crane
really nice mission , the sleeping bag(folded) working for you ?
digital kraken
this mission is soooo gooood!
ruby crane
sleeping bag doesnt work for me, it doesnt unfold if you click it in inventory
nor mousewheel option when its dropped on the ground
talking about the portable sleepingbag
fierce parrot
iirc you just need it in your inventory when you wait and it's used then
Its not actually an object that is used physically
ruby crane
to make factions clearer, they need to respond quicker, when you're shooting up a friendly faction the first time
they need to radio immediately
its also an easy way to get your first weapon
just shoot a friendly patrol up
they wont shoot back
scenic mulch
Honestly, Old Man is superb. It could almost be seen as a Showcase for Tanoa and its many stunningly beautiful places. For once you aren't a soldier transported around with helicopters and armored vehicles, you are a simple man. Of course, you yourself are an actor in the war but you are still just a man.
I really enjoy seeing Tanoa like this, and hope Old Man gets expanded as much as possible since this is what I always hoped to see in Arma.
ruby crane
do the ai factions react to faction armor/clothing ?
or can you just dress like csat and enter a rebel camp?
quiet jungle
try and see!
ruby crane
UHH you wat son, SO apparently i glitched into the floor slightly in first safe house and died. I just got full csat gear too, after only 10 min of play thanks random ambush 5 meters from safe house. 😦 Oh well that's where this story ends, the old man tripped, broke his hip and died from living in the middle of no where.
there MOM i punctuated
quiet jungle
Punctuation plz
ruby crane
punctuation is for nerds!!!
XD joking
also its Punctuation plz.
you need the full stop it stops the grammar gestapo from coming for you.
quiet jungle
also its Punctuation plz.
it's* 👀
ruby crane
ah a fellow grammar gestapo
quiet jungle
Ja, Ja
ruby crane
But i am annoyed, i had a car 98 and like ... 8 mags for it and a at stick with rockets and grenades.
ruby crane
yeah just didnt expect to die by glitching into the floor at the first house all i did was walk through an interior door way
still to those with fps problems playing this mission turn pip off i went from 20-30 fps upto 55-60 fps just turning that off
high bear
we're still talking about Arma 😉
although the campaign does add a lot of stress to the engine, because a lot of stuff is happening in the background (which is probably why it's only SP, because it would kill a server for sure)
ruby crane
from the first 10 min i played of it, it seemed pretty good.
vital walrus
What PiP features are being used in the mission though, shouldn't effect fps unless it's being used by like car mirrors, reverse cameras, tank cupolas etc.
ruby crane
yeah i was in the starting ute (truck for non aussies) and the mirror was tanking my fps on standard
vital walrus
huh must just be all the extra scripting taking priority over pip
ruby crane
has to be i mean the amount of custom scripting must be mind boggling for this scenario.
high bear
PiP has been a FPS killer since it was introduced, since it basically renders 2 (or more) things at the same time, which is hard work for your GPU.
high bear
on my previous system I could not turn it on at all, because it went from 30 to 5 FPS when driving a vehicle...
vital walrus
Yea right, fair enough, thought it might have been some wackness were the second render had all the scripting running in it to for example.
ruby crane
still want steam to change the store page for arma 3 so instead of it saying recommended system requirements, it just says sugested requierments
because that store page is a damn liar
recomended to me is this is what you need to get 60 fps and have it not look like a potato
high bear
nobody claims that it will allow you to run 60 FPS... or says you will ever be able to run 60 FPS in Arma
ruby crane
yes but these are the specs recomended by the dev to run this game at or near its average quality
i guarentee you build a rig with those parts you are recommended you wont get more than 20 fps on standard settings
high bear
on the recommended specs you can play SP missions on 30 FPS average with medium settings, although Arma has always required you to tweak your settings based on your hardware
ruby crane
and mp servers you get wat 15
high bear
which is due bad servers and bad missions
ruby crane
which is what arma is really for since potato ai is potato
high bear
not Arma related
ruby crane
"1 Find cover"
you got it boss il just lay in this open field
vital walrus
yea lets move this to #hardware_vs_arma before a mod steps in
ruby crane
not this chest high rock 5 feet to the left of me
scenic mulch
Help: Gendarmerie tell me to 'drop the weapon' despite me not having any gun out ; they're stached inside my Backpack and such.
Is that intentional or a bug? It is concealed afterall.
quiet jungle
Try throwing the backpack?
scenic mulch
I got a Carryall, so you could be right
Although I don't think that a carryall should be illegal, as it's only a backpack
quiet jungle
maybe it is considered as military equipment, such as a chest harness
scenic mulch
If thatßs the case hope it gets changed
Every child would then be a guerilla in training haha
quiet jungle
isn't carryall the 3m high military backpack?
scenic mulch
Not sure, although it's right that it looks a little concerning
it'd be great to know what backpacks are OK tho
since I keep most of my things stored inside of it
quiet jungle
"military equipment"
They warn you about that in the beginning - same, don't stand too close to soldiers, etc
vital walrus
No that's the Bergan, but yea if it uses the same type of system as antistasi and other undercover mods use, all backpacks are classed as mil' equip', sept maybe the duffle bag
digital kraken
it is all fun and games until you die :x
quiet jungle
do as you would do in real life
stop thinking SQF and classes 😄
vital walrus
Never!
digital kraken
hey, the class struggle is real. inherited classes have more privelege!
high bear
carries backpack with gun sticking out
wonders why police is shooting him
🤔
quiet jungle
parent classes are protected! ✊
nova rose
Help, help, I'm being deprecated!
coarse oracle
Some mechanics i don't get yet:
- It says something like, you need a bedroll in your inventory to save and it's a one time use.. but after sleeping somewhere i still have the bedroll in my inventory
- I shot at a few police units and now the map is all red. How do i get back into "low profile" mode again?
- What exactly is forbidden in military checkpoints? I rolled up to one with a truck full of guns and explosives and I had a clean passage
- Is there some hidden fatigue stat that i need to keep care off? (Old men need their sleep), or is sleeping only for saving?
- Can i just take any unlocked vehicle without repercussion?
fierce parrot
Low Profile is sort of like skyrim, basically wait it out and avoid csat/police from seeing you.
coarse oracle
stop right there, you criminal scum
fierce parrot
After a couple of minutes its will fade out
coarse oracle
Also, i'm kind of disappointed that the Single Player Cheat Menu doesn't work 😦
because of the modified ingame menu
fierce parrot
The issue with your beadroll might just be a bug, I haven't run into that happening with me.
Sleeping is only for skipping time, saving or for healing. As far as I can tell.
With the locked vehicles, so far I think only csat/police care about you stealing vehicles, the civilians don't care about their vehicles at all.
And of course don't try to drive past them in a stolen police/csat vehicle as they will definitely care about that.
coarse oracle
the civilians don't care about their vehicles at all.
Tanoa communist country confirmed 😄
share everything
high bear
btw... regarding weapons inside your vehicle:
There's a script which calculates the threat of the items in your vehicle towards CSAT. It takes all pistols, rifles, launchers and ammo, which is then subtracted by the size of the vehicle (eg. boxtruck can hold more "illegal" item than a quadbike)
scenic mulch
How's it for backpacks, if you know @high bear ?
high bear
I believe it's the same (since vehicle in Arma also means an unit, uniform or gear)
digital kraken
i don't like the weapon store
every so often a gun will have an attachment i sorely need
sucks to have to buy a 4000 dorrah gun just to get a silencer that would sell for 5
i do like how you can sell a whole truckload a time
ruby crane
Dialogs on the phone no longer work after 7-8 missions, you too?
digital kraken
havent done that many
i play almost realtime
seize the night
does anyone know which vehicle can carry thge most gear?
high bear
no idea... don't even know which vehicles are available in the campaign
sacred pulsar
Is it compatible with mods or designed to exclusively be played vanilla?
high bear
I would say vanilla only
because there is too much scripting going on, which could break with mods
quiet jungle
PSA:
the Old Man DLC has just been released, so most of the information is to be found/tested/tried/experimented.
try, and if it breaks anything, tell us here 😉
afaik, no one finished it?
high bear
you can't finish it because it's not done yet 😉
near tree
From what I've seen in the code there was only 8 FSM for "Super Quests" (main quest line?)
high bear
yes, plus 1 "final" quest which also triggers the "thank you for playing the beta" screen
and 5 side quests
scenic mulch
Question: Will attacking Gendarmerie positions at night give me any advantages? I want to raid Red Spring and since I got NVGs want to make a night assault perhaps. Yes or should I keep it day?
high bear
well, since the Gend. don't have NVG's you will have an advantage over them.
quiet jungle
Recon is for the weak - ramming speeeeeed!
digital kraken
like in some cases
when you get a certain time rebels wanna attack a site
you can go there, pre place your weapons inside at night when they can't see you, go out, wait a bit, wanter leisurely in 5 minutes before the attack and kill em from the inside of the camp when the rebels attack
if you can sneak in a silenced pistol you can take out enemy groups one by one too
ruby crane
Ok i fixed my problem of dialog ... Radio in inventory = phone 🤔
scenic mulch
My raid was a success! I got some solid equipment. A Type 115, and also a Rangefinder. I captured a Quilin and gave it to L'Ensemble.
quiet jungle
! \o/ !
Congrats 👌
brisk bay
||I found a dead IDAP worker with the item "Diary of Oscar M. Garret" in his inventory. Upon taking it, it triggered a quest for me telling me to investigate further based on his journal notes. However, I have no idea how to read his journal.||
gritty cloak
Yeah, i got that too. It updated my intel/task tab with an entry but it's blank.
pearl pilot
proud furnace
by popular demand #old_man_scenario added
sly sandal
Is there a forum topic for Old man feedback? If so what section in the forums?
grim meadow
nova rose
Possibly https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/226929-arma-3-apex-old-man-feedback/ The one called ARMA 3 Apex Old Man Feedback 🙂
Damn... ninjaed
quiet jungle
Old Man
brisk bay
||I destroyed both RADAR installations, but the tasks did not complete.||
ruby crane
You sell the Antimalaricum more expensive than you buy it . Mission "Transport plane" and "Get airport access card" are canceled when you finish the mission "destroy silos"
digital kraken
anyone else have problems with the doctor not having the action on him to give him medicine anymore?
digital kraken
yes
then he moves location
still constantly badgers me for medicine but no action to give it
ruby crane
oh i think thats just fluff dialog
digital kraken
task is still there
gritty cloak
I have the option to give him medicine, but i don't get any kind of response out of him. The task doesn't change from saying they have 2-6 hours of supplies left either.
digital kraken
mine jumped to 30-40 hours
gritty cloak
How many did you give him?
gritty cloak
Oh, right. xD
I gave him 6 boxes. It still says 2-6 hours. And over the next 20 mins of in game time he calls me twice telling me that he is almost out of meds.
digital kraken
yeah i think that quest is broken 😄
i also managed to break the thing where you can ask for some mercenaries to help you out
sooooo
think i'mma restart the mission :x
Please devs.. if you read this, make the functions in the mission available to mission makers in editor as modules :x
arctic jay
How to use sleeping bag? I made everything i could only imagine, but nothing happened
scenic mulch
Destroy the Radars doesn't seem to work, I destroyed both the AA and Radar + the big radar on Mont Tanoa, but the quest remains unsolved. Any help?
weary idol
Spoilers folks, use them
digital kraken
@arctic jay in the map screen there is an alarm button
if you have a sleepingbag in the inventory when using that, you get the option to sleep and save
spare quest
@digital kraken
Please devs.. if you read this, make the functions in the mission available to mission makers in editor as modules :x
The mod already adds a ton of new modules in the editor
torn girder
scenic mulch
An issue:
When you approach Gendarmerie at all, they tell you to get lost no matter what. Even if you are as far away from them as possible. I tested it out multiple times, and even just walked around with no gear at all, and they still called me out. This should be fixed as you should still be able to blend in with Civilians.
high bear
They just don't like it when you get too close, or get near locations you shouldn't be at
scenic mulch
Yeah but the issue is I am always in safe areas, + If I accidentaly got too close and immediately back off they still target me eventually
I know the the AI base the alert off if they can still see me, but this atleast be changed for Gendarmerie. Like, if they tell you to back off and you do so they go back to "Safe".
sly sandal
Yea had the same issue
I had them turn hostile before i could even get into my truck to leave.
scenic mulch
Also something else that confuses me: If I pass Checkpoints with for example a gun in the inventory of my vehicle, it usually does nothing. Although if I keep it in my own inventory, they yell that I'm disobeying orders and shoot me.
stray temple
Seem good so far but there is slight problem with feeling of the "mod" or "dlc" where are the females the children? This is civilian focused game mode/DLC and it feels dead! Can you fix that?
opaque pebble
There are no women in Arma 😛
high bear
It's still a beta and more content will be added.
But I agree it still feels a bit empty, although it does fit the story.
Regarding woman and children; woman are still an issue due to gear compatibility, so I don't think it will ever be supported officially. Children will never be added as far as I know, to prevent issues with killing them (and pushing it to PG-18)
Arma 2 had female AI, but were extremely buggy when used by real players.
nova rose
"There are no women in Arma stuck_out_tongue" Yes there are
ARMA 3 Epoch, for example has females with vanilla vests etc reworked since it was released. Others have or are producing mods dealing with females even at this late date.
scenic mulch
Yeah but she only appeared as a voice, you never saw her except for her profile picture
digital kraken
grrrrrrrrrr
see some syndicat dudes
working for syndicat atm
walk up to them
they tell me to leave and then shoot me after like 4 seconds before i have time to react and leave
digital kraken
today accepted the carbomb mission
it sent me to a house that is indestructible to blow it up
the carbomb didn't dent it
so tried 3 explosive charges
nothing
near cedar
On tanoabuka island, I have noticed that if something is over .5 km away from you it freezes simulation (don't move and cant be destroyed) so helos just stop moving in the sky which is quite odd
ruby crane
blud I'm about to do that carbomb mission
I noticed on several occasions people (including my own player) killing themselves on objects
like garden tables
but also ai at camps
high bear
I haven't had that issue ever in Arma... Although I've also been playing the series before it was Arma 🤣
sly sandal
I'm thinking people are doing these things with ATVS
It's the only vehicle I can think of that has very little crash protection, hitting a thick brush will hurt you.
digital kraken
he wasn't talking about in cars
with how dynamic simulation works, static objects will have their collisions activate when player comes to a c ertain distance
so when an ai is walking arround, an object physics can acitvate whilst he is inside the bounding box
which will fling and kill him
after a few days in the mission and going back and forthh a lot
there will be dead ai around for no reason
ruby crane
i meant on foot
yes
also happens to the player
when you walk into a can pallet ie in the police station
or crouch into it
you may die
digital kraken
i have also been killed by the props it sometimes spawn when you skip time
if you do that in the wilderness with a sleepingbag it creates a campfire or other props
once it spawned a cargo container on me and ragdolled me
ruby crane
just invest in savegames :)
sp arma has always been cranky but its still enjoyable
doing over stuff makes you think about the situation, and try diff strategy
in a strange way it ads to the realism
you have to be careful irl too
digital kraken
yes imo this is by far the best single player arma i've had
well contact kinda is cause it is more polished.. but this is longer and more
but most of all
this mission gives so much to the map
imo it is the mission that has done the most justice to a map out of all arma single player stuff
ruby crane
this is similar to wasteland
on an empty server
its very nice indeed
would be great if there was an extended dlc of this
sly sandal
I always think this is the way Arma in general should be played.
So far my only bigger want from the campaign is simply more interaction with the world. I want to sit at my desk when I access my laptop. Have a crash helmet for my ATV to help reduce collision damage, ect.
digital kraken
yes that is how i feel about it too!
this is how i feel arma was supposed to be all along
ruby crane
^
I am very happy, I've kept asking for SP stuff for a while and now with contact and old man theres alot of replay time
also its actually pretty challenging gameplay wise, which is a step up
digital kraken
yep
and i don't mind trying 5 times to do the same thing
with differnt aprroaches
ruby crane
makes you appreciate the details
digital kraken
yep and use the whole map
sly sandal
More specifically, lets you use the whole map on ground/foot.
Too many people rush to fly around and then proclaim a terrain is boring or small because they can get around it in 15mins.
digital kraken
i need some sort of genious to port this mission over to my map PKL :x
gritty cloak
Being able to port it would be interesting.
gritty cloak
I was thinking less about allowed, and more about how. xD
digital kraken
way out of my capability even if possible
sly sandal
Based on the modules, it's looking like this will be pretty portable.
digital kraken
maybe i can set up my own twist using rhs and contact stuff isntead of vanilla :x
i'm too brained to figure out how to use the modules
high bear
I've already played with the modules and there's just to much stuff not fully working yet, or requires internal dependencies (eg. module A requires module B, but only when module C doesn't exist)...
So I would wait till the stable version of Old Man has been released before porting it to other terrains (not to mention the amount of configs and scripts required).
sly sandal
Im sure tgey will release documentation as well
high bear
Nope, all documentation will be inside the scripts...
The people who maintain the wiki will document the functions, and we as a community can improve that. But BI won't write anything except for the code 😉
vital current
been playing old man is quite good ,but i have mission to destroy 2 csat radars but i did and nothing happend - is that a bug?
ruby crane
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/329978448938532868/659340924123349024/unknown.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/329978448938532868/659340799842058271/unknown.png look at the text where the french accent e ' isnt displayed but an empty glyph slot
and the other one shows intel messages being weirdly scaled after I did alot of money transactions at a gunstore
digital kraken
the alarm flare bugs me to no end
some times it comes when i know i'm not seen
and it makes no sense for it to spawn right on top of you
just killed two csat that were alone
red flare
patrol comes
ignores me -.-
would be more imersive if there simply was no flare
ruby crane
yeah sometimes small gendarmerie posts would just go agro on you for 10 seconds you leave the area but the flare is up
digital kraken
using time compression seems to severely break the mission to the unplayable
scenic mulch
I use time compression all the time @digital kraken there any problems for you?
digital kraken
it breaks pretty much everything
the more you do it the morre out of synch quest stuff, radio, dialog, everything
and if timecompression is on when you load into a place you haevn't been, it gets even worse
ruby crane
Hmm, any specific examples? Because I've been using it for driving and running between areas
not in missions though
digital kraken
checkpoints arre so buggy i don't get it
ruby crane
drive around them 🙂
digital kraken
the insurgent menu in the map always breaks when i load the game
it only shows statistics then
gritty cloak
Mine sometimes shows credits.
digital kraken
the intel one dies too
stray crescent
Anybody else having trouble ||uploading the virus? I give the item to the PC and nothing happens. Tried it on two computers.||
digital kraken
loading a savegame seems to also break the guerilla attack diversion thing
now he confirrms, then suddenly it is completed way before they even come
SAMJO calls and says that's it. we go.
urban garden
I got two AAF soldiers spawn as part of an insurgent camp. Did this happen to anyone else?
scenic mulch
The arrow pointing at the direction of attack should be rotated to point towards the target and also made bigger.
Also, not sure if this is the case already but do failed raids actually make any consequences for Syndikat?
digital kraken
dunno
i always have to reload at some point and the statistics thing for them goes away
sly sandal
||First intel from keystone names the virus in the log. Even though he never mentions the name.|| Might consider keeping it generic for mission purposes.
sly sandal
||Harcourt Northbound|| checkpoint is either broken or just very sensitive. It's the only checkpoint that I can't seem to get through cleanly without blowing past it. I have attempted 6 times, using the x key to assure I don't reverse by accident.
On that note, when it comes to blowing past checkpoints, the AI don't seem to respond well. Maybe add some punishment for doing it? Like closing the checkpoint off for so long, or having them send a helicopter to track you down.
zinc glade
The "action" music is so annoying. It starts playing at times that seem to effectively be random (no enemies in sight at all) and since there's only one such music track it gets annoying really fast. Fortunately, you can always turn the radio on and then off to stop it
ruby crane
yeah best turn music off
would be nice to have music off yet still have car stereo ability
sly sandal
Umm that is the car radio. XD
zinc glade
No, it's not. The music starts playing even when the car radio is turned off. That's why I said that I have to turn the radio on and then off, to prevent that music from playing
ruby crane
yep
if music is turned off in the basegame, you wont hear the car either iirc
that was my fix for the problem
left elbow
spoilers for after you do the dive mission/blowing up the Dome ||so I blew up the dome by myself without doing any of the extra stuff. I went to Miller and whatever he started talking about the greater good I shot him in the face I went to go steal the submarine that they had but I couldn't get in the driver seat and whenever I got into the passenger seat I couldn't get out, I understand that it's a semi rare occasion to be shooting Miller in the face but please just for once let me do that with no repercussions? I kind of understand that that was supposed to be the end of the campaign though.||
zinc glade
Since the old saves will not work on the updated scenario, maybe we could use some cheat codes to finish missions and quickly reach the point we were at, after update?
digital kraken
updated scenario?
zinc glade
#announcements @digital kraken
digital kraken
loading a saved game still breaks a lot of stuff
like insurgents
soooo it is still pretty much unplayable imo
zinc glade
You mean a save created after the update or an old save?
digital kraken
oh man
i absolutely hate the rock music now :x
there are so many cool tracks but it seems to wanna always play that
digital kraken
@viral pike as rerquested:
wooden chair inside the garage of that house
the intel and insurrgent tabs seem to break randomly... when i saved this game.. it didn't work but now when I loaded it does
other than that, car radio seems to start playing randomly whilst on foot.
in my last savegame, the radio worked OK. could hear a lot of the news reporrts
in this savegame i haven't hearrd one full news reporrt and it doesn't play songs to the end.. it starrts playing one and then after a minute it starts playing that same rock song but now i've turned off music
these rarndomly work and randomly not
and show different things each time i load the same savegame
if i try to call som insurgent help, samjo calls, says five minutes
then he calls it off when they are supposed to arrive
this seems to only be an issue when loading
as it worrks if i don't die or close the game
one time loading the savegame it said i could orderr in 43 insurgents
loading the exact same savegame then said Not Avaliable
hollow spoke
Nice just lost an epic savegame, with tons of gear for no reason at all!
stray crescent
did you back it up?
ember pulsar
@hollow spoke how did you lost it?
hollow spoke
@ember pulsar I really have no clue, last time I saved I used "Save and exit" later on I loaded that save game up, died and took the last save game, and that turned out to be an old one 😦
And the newest one, I made with "save and exit" was no where to be found.
hollow spoke
@stray crescent well yeah i back up my arma saves in my onedrive, where I also loading them from - I guess I need to run a full on backup differentiated hourly or something 🙂
really
I tested the save on exit a few times, where I would save on exit and enter the game and see if it was good, and it was always good
digital kraken
it will save and exit even if you alt+f4
but if you then load again afterr loading that
it will have deleted the save on exit
and load your previous real save
hollow spoke
So i guess save on exit isnt counted as manual / user save then, but automated, so it will overwrite it?
hollow spoke
well that was my idea of it 😄
Wish I would have known that it wouldnt work out in the long run
digital kraken
me i play almost like if it was one life anyhow
because a few things still break if you load a savegame
hollow spoke
🙂
fading bane
After ||delivering the transport truck to the doctor for his Ill camp -|| I ran into one of the houses near the site he was located, and there were two dogs stuck inside eachother, in the attempt to leave the house, I turned around, ran into the table, and died.
Also some of the Intel laptops are halfway stuck through some tables.
fading bane
I also went down the hill, and stole their truck because why not. Drove it up hill and got away with no damage lol.
I ended up stealing the Tempest Ammo vehicle
Without a weapon, so it was a little too easy
digital kraken
well half the point of this mission is you don't need a weapon
it gets more difficult the more havoc you make
if you kill a LOT of CSAT they will send jets that will blow up cars you have been using and such
digital kraken
🙂
fading bane
got away going 8 km/h
fading bane
yeah
I still died running into the table, I tested it again and it killed me twice
Not really fond of that :(
digital kraken
screenshot the table showing location
and post it here and the devs will be happy.. they are working on fixing those
fading bane
Can I show a screenshot with the building, it's near the first mission to move the truck to transport the sick village
also killing everyone in Docs hideout completed the mission too..
digital kraken
as long as the screenshot helps them find it i'm sure it is fine 🙂
fading bane
I'll try to post it soon, my PC doesn't like tabbing out of Arma
I'll post the screen shot of the two dogs stuck inside eachother as well
abstract hinge
LISTEN HERE EVERYONE THIS IS MY OPINION ON OLD_MAN:
At first it made me very angry because of bugs and especially being killed by simply brushing up against objects...
but then I remembered it was 'beta'
so I swallowed my anger and kept going for a while
and I gradually realized that it was extremely good!
abstract hinge
One thing I like especially is that voice acting is kept to a minimum. In Contact there was too much damned talking, especially from bad voice acting (self) main character
in OldMan the main character does not speak at all! EXCELLENT
digital kraken
i like that too
fading bane
Too much driving/walking in Old Man - maybe make things slightly closer.
Not too close but not halfway across the island either
abstract hinge
I finally abandoned Oldman before the end because of a bug I couldn't work around, but I'm sure they'll fix it, and I continue to have a very high opinion of the whole thing
fading bane
I've spent 4 hours driving and 1 hour walking - 20 minutes at my actual objectives
abstract hinge
True the walking/driving was a bit much, perhaps tighten that up a bit
digital kraken
i've had like 6-8 playthrus
none to end and i don't really care
i just explore and do whatever
abstract hinge
more fast-move places perhaps, or selective time-speedup
digital kraken
test stuff
fading bane
I just mean everything in the woods is extremely difficult to get to, especially driving a transportation truck uphill....
abstract hinge
I suppose one could argue that all the walking/driving/waiting is like REAL LIFE eheheeh
fading bane
Got stuck in trees, under a log, between rocks, even stalling on the hill
abstract hinge
but yes I agree, it should be tightened up from that point of view
abstract hinge
but the scenario, the missions, the basic ideas, the characters, all very very good
fading bane
yes but you can't get unstuck, to get trapped between two rocks and a tree on the main path :p, then get it wedged and have to restart
digital kraken
when that happens to me i just go get a new vehicle and move my stuff over
abstract hinge
great voice acting, i notice they kept the 'drabek' character from contact, he sounds like a real czech to me, bit of local pride eh?
fading bane
can't drive a new truck through the path if it's wedged
abstract hinge
he sounds completely convincing
fading bane
And can't drive through trees because you'll get the same outcome
digital kraken
well drriving a truck thrru a dense jungle footpath
that's on you
you're not the NVA
abstract hinge
I was able to drive trucks through a hell of a lot of jungle, it took patience though
and if you break the truck or roll it over it's your own fault
fading bane
😐 😐
abstract hinge
i'm a good driver = )
anyway, please tell bohemia that Vicious_Lee, extremely important A3 personality, GIVES VERY FAVORABLE REVIEW (but fix goddamned bugs and speed up the driving/walking and stuff)
there, translate that into Czech
digital kraken
o.O
abstract hinge
I suppose I should also mention that my computer just barely meets the MINIMUM system requirements, but with very low vid settings I was still able to play without crashing
so that must mean, solid and forgiving BI programming
I mean: the A3/Oldman coding allows people with old outdated hardware to still play the game without crashing
so that is a positive review also
ashen juniper
extremely important A3 personality
LOL, what?
but fix goddamned bugs
it's a friggen beta.... what do you expect? wonders?
abstract hinge
pardon, i forget that I am addressing many people who do not speak perfect English and do not fully understand anglo-style humor. Let me put this in a way that is easier for you to understand: 'Vicious_Lee, A3 player on Discord, gives VERY FAVORABLE REVIEW to Oldman; but asks BI to pay attention to the bugs which many people are complaining about.'
ashen juniper
fully understand anglo-style humor
ohh... i do. but i come from a time where /s was used ;)
but still... OM is in beta and bugs will be fixed... over time
nova rose
Speaking as an anglo-saxon, it should also be remembered that this is a public discord for ARMA 3 that occassionally has trolls show up and troll... It is very difficult to tell without common markers like /s or 😉
ashen juniper
and grahame is right, as he always is. no question about that /s
😉
nova rose
And audiocustoms wins the CUP 😉
ashen juniper
can't win the CUP if you already have it 😄
nova rose
#️⃣ 3️⃣ 5️⃣ 0️⃣
viral pike
I finally abandoned Oldman before the end because of a bug I couldn't work around, but I'm sure they'll fix it, and I continue to have a very high opinion of the whole thing
@abstract hinge
Would be perfect to know what kind of bug you faced there! so we can pay more attention to that 😉
abstract hinge
final bug i found in old man: When you do a sleep or fast travel, everything is blurry when you 'wake up,' but slowly everything becomes clear and returns to normal. When I was on the island for the final mission (tuvanaka?) the blurring was permanent, there was no way to fix it.
zinc glade
Also, not sure if that was fixed but fast travel did not take any time for me (last time I checked that, it was before the update). It said how much It was going to take but I was transported instantly, anyway
viral pike
cool.. thx for report, will take a look on that 😉
urban garden
There might be a bug in the way radios are spawned: each time I come back to my house, there's a new radio in the living room in addition to the existing one(s)
at the moment, i've got 13 radios 😄
urban garden
well, my saved game has turned to be unplayable 😞
for some reason, things take minutes to spawn:
- phone calls I receive take minutes to complete, with one sentence by keystone every minute, for example
- no more checkpoints, civilians, or anything else, it looks like everyone left Tanoa and I'm the only one left
- when I die, the game takes a lot of time to register it, and I can't do anything at all, just wait for the death report to appear for at least 30 seconds
digital kraken
this has happened to me too
after using timecompression when boating or driving around
urban garden
oh, didn't time compress, but definitely happened right after I used a boat
past garnet
When I die, my save file gets corrupted and I cannot play on it anymore.
stable geode
Can also confirm the anecdote about the scenario becoming unplayable if you use time compression. I do use some quality of life mods like enhanced movement and JSRS, but I'm not willing to try and reproduce it without mods since I was at the end of the scenario when it started occurring.
digital kraken
even using no mods.. to reproduce.. turn on time comp and boat from.island to island
urban garden
I... went next to a boat, and got an unplayable save again 😐
seems to be the RHIB only
digital kraken
csat one on the water with ai in?
it helps the devs a lot if you provide all the details so they can fix it 🙂
or were you using it
etc
urban garden
at this point, I went back to a save without taking the RHIB (which is not the speedboat, just... the RHIB 🤔 ) and after a while of doing stuff, game gets corrupted, so I can't pinpoint anything in particular
digital kraken
it is best to restart entirely if that happens
cause you will never know when in the savegame that starts
urban garden
yeah, though at this rhythm, I'll never finish the scenario 😆
chrome coral
The Gendarmerie told me to back off, which I did. But for some reason, he started shooting at me.
Is that supposed to happen?
urban garden
were you wearing a Looter shirt?
I tested that wearing looter garb means that Gendarmes consider you as INDFOR, therefore hostile 🤷
could possibly apply for stuff you steal from Ensemble bodies
scenic mulch
Honestly, looter shirts should be allowed to be worn. They look so cool :(
digital kraken
carry anything not civilians and they will KOS you
scenic mulch
How does that translate to backpacks?
digital kraken
anything mil is flagged as such
scenic mulch
Such as? I usually carry Kitbags
viral pike
any kind of backpack is not considered as hostile
digital kraken
good to know 😄
nova rose
I have seen some hostile backpacks in my time 😉
digital kraken
well they are puppies compared to fannypacks
misty whale
How do I finish the destroy silo mission? The attack happened, the AIs planted the bomb and blew up both silos, and nothing happened since then. No confirmation. The Task still hangs "attack begins in 5 minutes, find a good position and wait". I have since left the island to do the main task.
zinc glade
I've also had the same issue and, frankly, this was the mission that made me stop playing the scenario almost two months ago (and I haven't gotten back to it since then) because sadly it made me realize how frustrating the scenario is because of the broken scripts here and there :(
Don't get me wrong: I love what BI has done so far but that mission looked like one that errs on the "rather important for the plot" side and being unable to finish it is probably preventing me from progressing further somewhere later. So I decided to wait until they fix it, before playing again.
...or this actually really is a small "side-quest" that's not important enough for them to fix, because they have bigger problems elsewhere 🤷♂️
misty whale
Too bad, I was starting to somewhat enjoy the scenario even with all the clunkyness.
If any devs actually read this, I would recommend to enable fast travel with the vehicles at bases.
Also maybe a high end merchant with decent scopes and suppressors since a lot of missions are either one man against an army, or stealth orientated.
little flower
yas do understand its still listed as 'beta' how about doing some 'beta' work and reporting it, instead of moaning over it like it was released as final when its not even final in the first place.
misty whale
That's why I'm reporting this....
zinc glade
It has already been reported a long time ago 🤷
little flower
ya need to be specific on exactly what you doing. old man relies on trigger areas if you arent. "find(ing) a good position and wait(ing)" it wont adv. Contact is the same way.
zinc glade
Marius' report seems a bit strange in that it seems to contradict itself a bit (task says the attack is in 5 minutes, but he states the AI has blown the silos already so the attack must have started).
Maybe it's just an omission and the task description is simply not updated, but what I also remember (from 1.5 month ago) is that people were reporting that they went into position, the attack started (so we/they were at the right position), the silos have been blown up, and then literally nothing happened. I had the same thing myself, even though I reloaded the save and retried multiple times.
misty whale
What happened was the thing you described in second paragraph above ^
Everything went fine as it should until the silos get blown. Then nothing.
zinc glade
Some people suggested this was an issue caused by saves but I can't verify this claim.
Discussion: https://discordapp.com/channels/105462288051380224/657277957202509824/663525256321040384
misty whale
I searched the wrong channel then, cause "silo" turned up nothing in feedback.
zinc glade
Added: Players can reach certain restricted zones undercover, if they use correct clothing (harbors, IDAP camps, civilian parts of airports)
Thanks! That was something that was really missing for me! 😀
Fixed: The task to destroy the fuel silos is now working
@misty whale ^
BI: thanks for fixing that as well! :)
little flower
still some script issues in it. see https://hastebin.com/uwoxukihez.sql Fresh game, no mods.
also get spam for "11:04:12 Serialization of Control variables is not implemented" every time saving game. this as well "Join to another group " " DiaryParser: <t/> does not match to <font> "
celest fable
ive noticed a bug, its at the start when you have to drive Arthur to his village
the objective appears at 000000
fallow grove
I encountered a bug where after retrieving the secret documents from the Harcourt base I approach Miller and he just says "Welcome back" and no option to give him the documents appears.
Is there a fix or is my save screwed? I hoarded a crapton of loot and it would suck to have to start over.
viral pike
@fallow grove are you running Oldman in vanilla environment? Did you start mission from beginning or did you load the game after update?
fallow grove
Vanilla
I played right after Oldman came out and just came back to it. So Im guessing an update broke it?
viral pike
I would recommend you start scenario again from start. Yes, update could broke it. If you see the same issue inform us please 😉
fallow grove
Acknowledged. Time to go through the pain of stealing a Tempest from the Harcourt base for no reason other than it being cool :p
*without any guns too lol, i forgot to bring a weapon
digital kraken
i just stole a jet from one of the airfields
crashed into a crane trying to avoid missiles
good times!
ionic smelt
I cant deliver the top secret docs to Miller as part of locating the CSAT unit, any advice?
digital kraken
did you do a fresh start?
digital kraken
well?
ionic smelt
It appears that if you move time ahead to a meetup time around a delivery point, it breaks that delivery point
ionic smelt
I got them when ordered to, and went to the meeting point with Miller, and arrived before I was supposed to
So I waited at that spot until the meetup time
digital kraken
that isn't timed
ionic smelt
Pretty sure he didn't show up at the spot until 3
digital kraken
miller hangs out there for several tasks after the first time he tells you to meet him there
whhen you get the docs from harcourt he is already there and there's no meeting time
ionic smelt
I'm only thinking it is that way because I wasn't able to deliver the ID Card to the contact after waiting at the delivery point, but I was able to if I waited outside the delivery point
digital kraken
you dodn't deliver the ID card
well for that side mission after rescuing the guy yeahh
but the csat id cards you keep
miller just wants the docs labelled secet docs or something
digital kraken
the side mission of the captured guy ddnt work forr me aat all
it does when dedlivering thhe card to the guy but not when leaving it at the stashh
ionic smelt
Yeah
Some things work, some things don't
I'm not sure if my theory works or not, but I remember waiting at that camp for Miller at some point
digital kraken
yes
only theh first time you are supposed to meet him
after that he is always there until later in the mission
ionic smelt
But I'm not sure if that broke the delivery point
It did for the side mission ID Card guy
digital kraken
for that you just gotta go there in the opening hours
ionic smelt
But it might be of note to avoid waiting in delivery zones lol
digital kraken
anyone else have the problem with mission not progressing after inserting USB stick?
little flower
neg but Im stuck on trying to call in a strike team, says look at map them let him know how many.. but see nothing for #'s
little flower
basically caught up to where I go to the csat boat by harcourt 12pm 2nd day
instead waiting for night wanted strike team come in kill'm then I ninja in to the computers
digital kraken
you can go to the computers withhout anyone seeing you at any point
on the beach by the side of the white warehous is a boat
park there
little flower
sci guys always see me
digital kraken
sneak by the side of the warehouse
when you get to the corner
lean to the sidde and see if therer is anyone in the front of the warehouse
inside by the medical tent is a medic with back turrned against you
you caan ignore
some csat patrol outside the warehouse, just gotta wait until they are on the other side then sneak into the warehouse office
little flower
anytime I go to the edge of the warehouse they start yelling 1 guy see me from the fire barrel outside
at night hes not there
digital kraken
you can also ignore when that happens, run into the office
kil the medic and take the intel
then lay on the floor until alarm times out
little flower
I did
I ninja'd in there at night without them noticing but Im trying to make the 22:00 fight
doc already got a truck they move tonight think. everything else caught up to this
oh and a car b#$%
digital kraken
i'm hoping someone gets to the usb stick part soon and can tell me if it works for them
little flower
Need to check the drones at checkpoints > 75% of them turn into burning fireballs
little flower
should spawn miller and his camp when you meet him @ 1035 earlier then exactly that. kinda odd just seeing him spawn out of the blue if you there a bit early. maybe plant him down a hr early?
nova rose
Miller would run off and do his own thing if spawned early... He's Miller
sly sandal
Agree with miller spawning. Or maybe just spawn him like 100m out at a certain time to give a illusion he just traveled there.
scenic mulch
Hey, I just "completed" the campaign, aka teleported myself to the Dome and just destoryed it. I chose Syndikat ending, but I only see a black screen, instead of text and images, but still hear music and ambient noise.
sand helm
that is not completing it
scenic mulch
I just wanted the Ending Cutscene.
... and it seems to be a bug since I completed the final mission.
sand helm
you probs broke smth by doing such
ripe violet
cheating aint the answer
scenic mulch
No, it shouldn't be broken. I completed ||Miller's Ending|| and ||The Doctor's Ending||, and got the cutscenes. It's just the ||Syndikat Ending|| which got me issues, even with cheats.
scenic mulch
You inow what I'd really like to see for the full release?
Santiago voice one-liners. Similiar to Kerry during the Scouting Missions where he'd say something like "That's one camp less" or something cool.
Also, groups. I want to make Tanoan FIA >:(
crude mural
Tanoan fia is basically the syndikate
scenic mulch
Syndikat are smugglers, FIA are freedom fighters
fast nebula
not sure freedom fighters would be very fitting on tanoa
besides, one could argue the syndikat moved into exactly that role in the old man timeline?
little flower
thats exactly what syndicat did they became 'politque' remember
zinc glade
At the bery beginning, when you're supposed to go and retrieve the explosives: you stop the car at the village and, 3 times out of 4, the guy that was driving with you tells you he'll show you where the explosives are, walks for about < 20 meters and gets stuck there, just standing. The only thing that I think I may have been doing wrong was stopping the car too late, in the village and not outside of it.
@viral pike
viral pike
we will try to investigate 😉
grim meadow
More bugs
little flower
simple solution drive the car thru the village slow and go stop towards the back of village. basically bring him closer to it. its happened to me a few times its how I avoid it happening again.
zinc glade
Obviously, I figured out the location of the explosives myself and when you go back to him with the explosives, the mission continues so that's alright to me, I don't need any workarounds.
However, taking into account the fact that it's literally the first mission that you have in the whole scenario, having the NPC becoming stuck is probably not the thing that BI want its users to see, in their first 5-10 minutes of the game 😉
little flower
yeah it worked for me the first few times then suddenly he started to take a path not thru the village but would try and walk behind the long house and then just stands there behind it. never could see why far as I remember when I looked at it in editor didnt see nothing to indicate why he doing it.
crude halo
I’ve figured out you can just grab a truck and you can go around the road block. Then drive up to him. Talk to him. And when you get into the truck he’ll get in too no matter what
little flower
yes its after he gets in the truck and spoilers after that... it'll make sense when you get go to drop him off. thats where the problem lies he sometimes walks a odd route and get stuck never showing you the objective location itself. (which hes designed to do)
its random when it happens and could just be related to timing in when he says 'we're here' and where you park and get out and where exactly.
crude halo
Should have a move objective so you can get in a viable area
little flower
got work today but if I remember I'll load up that area in editor again see if its just as simple as moving the completion/getout point closer and more in LOS to where he needs to show ya. trying to avoid spoilers totally sorry.
did like how they sectioned/regionalized off everything for Oldman in different mission files.
zinc glade
trying to avoid spoilers totally sorry
I don't think you even need to try to avoid anything. It's literally the first task, there is no plot twist or anything, so there is nothing you can even spoil 😛
little flower
trust me already seen the 😭 over it in the past here. lol
zealous goblet
Why i dont find a cure ?
little flower
?
ashen juniper
i found the cure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGgMZpGYiy8
frank flame
earth is flat
little flower
no the universe is flat image being projected upon the sphere of its influence/existence. As for why you didnt find it if you destroyed the lab and finished you'd know why.
zealous goblet
Just tell me if the cure exist ?
marble spire
Whats the feedback you're trying to give about the mission?
zealous goblet
I dont find a item who i can Give Dr Drakeb or syndicat
glossy acorn
After doing the first combat mission with L'Ensemble, at every point when walking by Gendemaries or CSAT I was immediatley shot. I'm not sure what is wrong, and it's not going away/not wearing off.
little flower
wearing any gear with a ! on it? that would be one reason. weapons showing would be another.
left elbow
is there any possibility of a csat ending?
Wat @left elbow
tiny glen
I don't know if it's the right channel but the french subtitles are not in french on the Old Man trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkffiFKrozM
spiral canopy
Since the update we got this BE exception. We are running a Exile server, so not sure why this is even loading...
[] execVM "\a3\Missions_F_Oldman\Systems\UI\SyndikatTeam\CreateTeamUI.SQF";
waitUntil {!isNull findDisplay 666};
waitUntil {is"```Hey Devs, I got a question: can you add the new radio tracks to Zeus? It adds so much good music, and it'd be really cool if we could play the music!
Same for 3den, they're seen as "Voice" files.
austere hearth
@spiral canopy Are you using Infistar on server?
real shuttle
The M2 (Raised) breaks down into a gun and tripod (FIA), but the lowered version breaks down into Folded Tripod M2 HMG .50 (Syndikat) and Dismantled M2 HMG .50 (FIA)
spiral canopy
Yes we use Infistar
real shuttle
Folded Tripod (FIA) exists, it's just I_C_HMG_02_support_F as opposed to I_G_HMG[...]
austere hearth
@spiral canopy and do you have some more server logs. Specifically, infistar related
spiral canopy
It's a Battleye scripts.log kick, Infistar doesnt log anything related to that as far as i know
Its not affecting every player
[] execVM "\a3\Missions_F_Oldman\Systems\UI\SyndikatTeam\CreateTeamUI.SQF";
waitUntil {!isNull findDisplay 666};
waitUntil {is"
14.04.2020 16:18:36: Ratata Gama (27.147.XXX.XXX:2304) a77bbeda6XXX - #1 "
[] execVM "\a3\Missions_F_Oldman\Systems\UI\SyndikatTeam\CreateTeamUI.SQF";
waitUntil {!isNull findDisplay 666};
waitUntil {is"```I went trough the first checkpoint and I'm generally unsure of where to pull up, even on the area on the right when I pulled in and shut off my engine it didn't feel like the game responded
zinc glade
You need to pay attention to the soldier that is standing and doing gestures with his hands
He will be giving you signs to advance and his animation will change when he wants you to stop
If that's still unclear, you can always watch the first minutes of a playthrough on Youtube to see where others pull up 🙂
ruby crane
@zinc glade ight cheeers
spiral canopy
I was wrong its affecting every player on first login
grim meadow
please try without infistar
spiral canopy
tried it two times without infistar, no BE error. Tried it again with Infistar no error. So its inconsistent
grim meadow
that script above should not be firing, idea is that maybe infistar somehow triggers it
spiral canopy
restarted server and client on each try
vast plover
We should get Steam achievements for doing stuff in Old Man
kindred hatch
vast plover
Oh, good
Well, there should be one for knocking down that chair with the dead guy sitting on it
vast plover
Also, in the mission where you have to take the boat across the ocean and blow up the silos with C4, I tapped a mangrove and instantly died
warm socket
is it the rubber dinghy?
warm socket
ah, yeah that'd explain it
tidal crow
Noticed something. When reloading a save, it seems my map hud begins to "bug out". Basically making most of the buttons in the top left of the map window being swapped around, and some even unusable.
Edit: Gets fixed whenever going back to the menu and resuming/restarting game.
gaunt breach
If you have rangefinders on you they're considered as a weapon and the AI will kill you
austere hearth
@real shuttle that folded tripod thing is just display name issue
probably got corrupted when localizations were merged
real shuttle
The Syndie/FIA one? Yeah, it's a single letter, trivial.
That you can mess up a raised gun, turning it into a lowered gun that you then cant break down without being unable to recombine? That's a bit more troubling. Same thing, it just truncated the high from the item name, but still.
real shuttle
@austere hearth I had not considered that possibility. Will have to see if that's the case later; in the latter bug, though, the backpack does change to the non high version, not just changing the display name.
real shuttle
Yey c:
gaunt breach
After you do enough of the quests for the gurillas and get the price down the price exceeds two decimal points
little flower
is there even a end to them think I did a dozen in one run... and gave up was trying to see if not keeping the main line going if it'd have repurcussions...
tiny cape
The Support Assault attacks don't end until the entire province has been cleared I think.
grand galleon
Guys, while playing I crashed and now, every time I try to load the Old Man, Arma crashes. I don't want to restart everything
Any suggestions?
I did the check via steam yet
restive kindle
bruh this scenario is just
not for this A.I.
the checkpoints work very poorly
enemies see you in the dark
and as usual, through bushes
ashen juniper
@zealous goblet
please edit your post and remove the profanity. thx
turbid charm
The checkpoint system is kind of janky and not explained well to new players, after 4 reloads at a save point I figured out I needed to go off the road to trigger the drone scan. Maybe add a sign infront of the median hedgehog pointing to the way you need to go?
ashen juniper
It was explained when you had Arthur driving home and got to the first checkpoint
tiny cape
Not sure why you'd think that. The checkpoint soldier literally waves his hands in an obvious fashion.
Motions you to come forward = keep driving slowly towards him.
Motions you to stop = you stop and turn off the engine for the drone to scan.
The only inconsistency is the drone itself with its "scanning" process. Sometimes it picks up contraband and other times it doesn't.
little flower
did they fix signaling cuz he used to signal ya the wrong way. they'd point to their left and looking at them you'd think go right but they dont.
frank flame
worked fine for me so idk
there's also text that pops up
and a roadsign that tells you to stay right
said roadsign did glitch through a road cone though 😄
little flower
yeah I havent played the release yet mainly played heavy in the beta sadly 76 got me hooked temporarily.
real dune
Don't visit the rebel camp before they become friendly to you.
They agro and stay like that forever.
Now when I go there to collect the medicine for Drabek they kill me :(
I think I have to kill them all now