arma3_config

[jolly nest]

EVERY ONE KEEPS TALKING ABOUT IT

WHAT IN THE HECK IS A P DRIVE!!!

[sullen fulcrum]

https://youtu.be/wZ-OkQeaiAQ?si=VH5t96MVZ3xr7OgH

[hearty sandal]

just dont always build with full build 😅

[strange locust]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/P_drive

[clever creek]

How does one config correctly to avoid this in the editor list?

[wintry fox]

Is that from your mod?
Just looks like a bunch of unit variants without different names

[clever creek]

Yes

[wintry fox]

If you don't want them showing, you can just have the unit be scope = 1

[clever creek]

I assume it has something to do with how I configed cfpatches

[wintry fox]

Nah, that's eden

CfgPatches >> units is mainly for Zeus

[clever creek]

They are currently set to scope 2

So scope 1 is Off and scope 2 is On essentially?

[wintry fox]

Scope 0 means unusable (and only meant for inheritance), scope 1 means hidden, scope 2 means public

There's also scopeCurator for objects, so you can make things Eden only or Zeus only with it. If its not defined, just scope is used

[clever creek]

Ok, does that also remove it from the aresnal or just in the editor screen?

[wintry tartan]

Arsenal is not related with scope=1 in this context, if that's what you mean

[clever creek]

I changed the config to scope 1 and now all of my acex options within the arsenal are grayed out

[sweet pecan]

What are you changing the scope of?

[clever creek]

Each class under cfgWeapons has its own "scope" so I changed them from 2 to 1

It did remove the multiple listings from the editor menu, however it cooked my Acex in the Arsenal

[sweet pecan]

If you want the units in the editor to go away, you need to set the unit scope to 1 in CfgVehicles.

[clever creek]

In vehicles only?

[sweet pecan]

The one in weapons is the item, which I assume you don't want to go away.

[clever creek]

Correct

[wintry fox]

Yes, just the units (CfgVehicles)

[clever creek]

This helped me, thanks everyone

[waxen cosmos]

Does anyone know what the different scope variables actually mean in cfgMarkers? Seems like 0 or 1 is the most used by BI but I can't seem to find an explanation as to the difference other than the general terms of private, protected, and public

[viral dragon]

As with all config classes that can potentially be created, scope 0 means the class cannot be created in-game by any means; 1 means it can be created by scripts but does not appear in the Editor; and 2 means it appears in the Editor

(scripted systems like the Arsenal may also refer to a class's scope when deciding whether to make something available through them, but this is down to the specific system)

Usually, 0 is used for base classes which are there to help with config inheritance, and may be missing vital config that would be needed to actually create a working thing. 1 is used for classes which can safely be created but don't need to appear in the Editor, like minor variants or things that are meant to only be created by scripted systems. And 2 is used for everything else.

[waxen cosmos]

So a scope of 1 means they're not seen in 3DEN? I've got a bunch of map markers with scope 1 that are visible in 3DEN though

I believe they also show up in Zeus, though admittedly I'd have to double check that

[viral dragon]

Are you sure they're exactly the same classes and not just similar variants?

[waxen cosmos]

I'm entirely sure that each of the map markers is its' own class, yes. Their configs are almost identical but are entirely independent from each other because I never wrote a base class. Below is one of them:

class SOR_Flag_Afghanistan
{
  scope = 1;
  name = "Afghanistan";
  icon = "\SOR_MapMarkers\data\icons\flags\SOR_Icon_Flag_Afghanistan.paa";
  texture = "\SOR_MapMarkers\data\textures\flags\SOR_Flag_Afghanistan.paa";
  color[] = { 1, 1, 1, 1 };
  shadow = 1;
  size = 32;
  markerClass = "SOR_Markers_Flags";
};

[viral dragon]

Sorry, I thought you meant existing markers. For example, there are shadow/no shadow variants of many vanilla markers, and only one of the variants is visible.
That's odd. How I described it is how scope is meant to work, and according to the exported CfgMarkers on the wiki, there are some vanilla markers that are scope 2. But a lot of the classes that I know are visible are scope 1.

I guess the markers UI list interprets it differently to everything else. In that case, you may as well just treat 1 and 2 as the same. Only for markers though, for other configs there are functional differences as described.

* actually I know most of those scope 0 classes are script-creatable.
So that means that (for markers only) 0 is just hidden, and 1 is visible, and there is no equivalent to the normal scope 0. I suppose that makes some sense, marker config is pretty flat and there isn't much need for uncreatable base classes. Kind of annoying though.

[viral dragon]

So just take what the information here and subtract 1 from the numbers and that's it (for markers only)

[waxen cosmos]

All good, I thought it was really weird too hence the question 😂

Thank you for the thorough response though, perplexing though the answer turned out to be

[fleet canopy]

anyone willing to debug a config ? very short 170 lines

nvm verbally abused chat gpt till he made it work 😹

[wintry fox]

Don't bother, it's been said countless times how wrong it can and will be.

[wintry fox]

https://dontasktoask.com

[fleet canopy]

.....Im not even mad

mb im sorry

was having a problem with texutres not showing up even after reviewing my code for some time (im not perfect it might have a been a semi collon hiding somewhere) i think its prob just directory issue cuz one of the hidden textures is showing but they do have the same directory, if anyone is willing to help i'll share some further info, please and thank you to anyone willing to help

and if anyone can offer some materials i can use to debug cuz i couldn't find shit online

Only one hidden texture is showing which is used for the gear on the vest

[wintry fox]

Looks like you're just not giving it a texture

[fleet canopy]

i think i did ?

honeslty im just helping a friend so im not sure 😹

[wintry fox]

Would need to know more about whatever mod you're retexturing

[jolly nest]

yeah u did babe

[jolly nest]

ahhhh milgp

retexturing the vests

[viral dragon]

Why are you inheriting directly from itemCore instead of from the vest you're retexturing? You're having to redefine most of the config, when you could inherit most of it and only need to worry about the bits you're actually changing (so basically just the name and hiddenSelectionsTextures)

[jolly nest]

Shit how do i do that ?

[viral dragon]

You see where you're inheriting from ItemCore? Inherit from whatever the original vest's class is instead. Then remove everything from your config that doesn't need to change from the original vest.

[jolly nest]

how do i inherit it ?

[viral dragon]

Do you see where you're inheriting from ItemCore? It should be quite easy to find, it's likely to be the only instances of the word ItemCore in the file.

[jolly nest]

yh yh i got it

what should i write instead ?

[viral dragon]

The class name of the vest you're retexturing

[jolly nest]

from the mods cfg files ?

[viral dragon]

Or from finding it in the config viewer, or from hovering over it in the arsenal and reading the tooltip, or from equipping it on a unit and exporting the loadout, or any other way of finding an item's classname

[jolly nest]

soo milgp_v_jpc_Light_rgr right ?

[waxen cosmos]

This is how the class declaration works:

class [Your New Thing]: [What You're Inheriting From]
{

};

So you might have the right thing, not that anyone here will necessarily know, but you've got it in the wrong spot

So in your case you'll want

class taf_v_jpc_Light_rgr: milgp_v_jpc_Light_rgr
{

};

[rough hatch]

what config property or properties would control how fast a plane comes to a stop on the ground when thrust has been set to 0?

[lean bloom]

Uhm, what controls the time it takes to reload an infantry launcher´s magazine? Is it somehow tied to the reload animation?

[wintry tartan]

Yes, you need a reload anim (CfgMoves wise) that takes a time not to insta reload

[lean bloom]

so If I am using a vanilla anim then I am hard locked into that duration?

[wintry tartan]

You can inherit the anim and change time

[lean bloom]

Ahh, so I need to change the duration of the anim itself, rather than changing a paratemer in cfgWeapons? I see

[grizzled mason]

If I wanted to edit a Cfg to make a secondary weapon/ a weapon that is a secondary weapon a primary weapon instead, would i just change the class it inherits from Pistol_Base_F to Rifle_Base_F? (if (rifle_base_f even exists)

im browsing through the cfgweapons reference and dont see anything about how primary/secondary weapons are defined

[wintry fox]

No, for a couple reasons

1. That'd be an "updating base class" error. The correct way to try and do something like that would either be to make a new class and basically re-make the pistol or to modify the original class's properties to try and change it that way.
2. Pistols and rifles are set up very differently, and have specific requirements for correct implementation, you'd need to edit the model
3. Similar to 2 but for their animations as well

[grizzled mason]

Ah i see

[empty sable]

Hey guys, so I'm trying to do a simple "Retexture" of base game vehicles to fit my group; I've written up a config.cpp file and everything is (from what I understand) pathed correctly; but my vehicles are still just the "default" red color (using the offroad as the first vehicle) any input would be great (also I wasnt sure if I ask this here or in the config chat because this is a texture related question.

class CfgPatches {
    class SOB_Pack {
        units[] = { "SOB_Tran" };
        weapons[] = {};
        requiredVersion = 1.0;
        requiredAddons[] = { "A3_Soft_F_Enoch" };
    };
};

class CfgFactionClasses {
    class SOB
    {
        displayName = "Swords Of Battle";
        priority = 1;
        side = 2;
        icon = "";
    };
};

class CfgVehicles {

    class I_E_Offroad_01_comms_F;

    // Base class
    class SOB_Truck : I_E_Offroad_01_comms_F {

        scope = 0;
        displayName = "SOB Offroad";

        hiddenSelections[] = { "camo1", "camo2", "camo3" };

        hiddenSelectionsTextures[] = {
            "@Project_Sword\addons\Offroad\data\sob-truck.paa",
            "@Project_Sword\addons\Offroad\data\sob-truck.paa",
            "a3\soft_f_enoch\offroad_01\data\offroad_01_cover_blk_co.paa"
        };

        class textureSources
        {
            class SOB_Tran_Offroad
            {
                displayName = "SOB Offroad";
                author = "Guardian";
                textures[] = {
                    "@Project_Sword\addons\Offroad\data\sob-truck.paa",
                    "@Project_Sword\addons\Offroad\data\sob-truck.paa",
                    "a3\soft_f_enoch\offroad_01\data\offroad_01_cover_blk_co.paa"
                };
                factions[] = { "SOB" };

            };
            class SOB_Command
            {
                displayName = "SOB Command";
                author = "Guardian";
                textures[] = {
                    "@Project_Sword\addons\Offroad\data\sob-command-truck.paa",
                    "@Project_Sword\addons\Offroad\data\sob-command-truck.paa",
                    "a3\soft_f_enoch\offroad_01\data\offroad_01_cover_blk_co.paa"
                };
                factions[] = { "SOB" };
            };
        };
    };

    // Actual placeable vehicle
    class SOB_Tran : SOB_Truck {
        displayName = "SOB Offroad";
        author = "Guardian";
        scope = 2;
        scopeCurator = 2;
        faction = "SOB";
        crew = "I_Crew_F";
        textureList[] = {
            "SOB_Tran_Offroad", 1,
            "SOB_Command", 0
        };
    };
};

[nimble sequoia]

The pathing to your textures is likely wrong.
@Project_Sword\addons is the path to where your pbo should be built, but not to where the config and data files should be.
They should be on a p:\ drive, probably at p:\sob\project_sword\
Then your code would look like this:

            "\sob\project_sword\Offroad\data\sob-truck.paa",
            "\sob\project_sword\Offroad\data\sob-truck.paa",
            "a3\soft_f_enoch\offroad_01\data\offroad_01_cover_blk_co.paa"
        };```
The usual recommendation is to use mikero's free tools to set-up the p drive, extract the game data to p:\a3\ and use mikero's pboProject to compile your pbo.
In addition, your texture files should be named with a _co suffix before converting to .paa
eg sob-truck_co.tga ---> sob-truck_co.paa

[empty sable]

so @Project_Sword is the file that is sitting on my desktop that has all the files in it, I thought it was wrong but wasnt sure. but what is p: and why do texture files need _co? I had folks do the texture making which gave me a jpg (which I turned it into .paa) I can change the file name no problem.

[nimble sequoia]

That will answer questions on the texture suffix and why it's important.
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Texture_Map_Types
You can just rename the jpg to add the _co, then convert to paa.

[empty sable]

heard, will do that now

[nimble sequoia]

p:\ drive is a virtual drive you create on your computer that acts as the root folder for the Arma modded files
It can be mapped to any folder on a real drive
For example, you might have c:\arma_dev\ and you could map p:\ to that
Then you put your modding folders and files in p:
You can mount the p (project) drive using the Steam Arma 3 Tools, and also have it mapped on startup if you wish.

[empty sable]

wow... didnt realize modding simple retextures where gonna be this complex lol... I guess the "p:" drive is from that tool that mikero made?

[nimble sequoia]

The usual recommendation is to use mikero's free tools to set-up the p drive

[wintry fox]

It doesn't have to be, nothing except like buldozer and terrains actually requires a p-drive AFAIK

[empty sable]

ok so; where do I get this tool?

[nimble sequoia]

top result Google. If you fancy it, get the AiO Installer

[empty sable]

yeah I found it; smallest text on the page

I assume this one here?

[nimble sequoia]

You'd probably be better off with the AiO Installer

[empty sable]

gotchu the Mikero_AiO_Installer_stable gotchu

[hearty sandal]

if one uses pboproject the file path validation expects P drive and files to be on it

also in my experience P drive and project folder structure is easier to manage for most

so there is no need to mess around with pboPrefix and stuff like that

a lot of things can yes be done without

but basic new user has already a lot to deal with and P drive focuses the modding files into one place that imo is easier to understand and work with

it gives better structure that 100 folders on desktop

[wintry fox]

That's a 3rd party tool
HEMTT also does file validation (in config and models) without the need for a p-drive

[hearty sandal]

Also it is a bit more difficult to set up for a newb who has less computer experience

[tacit zealot]

FFV turret config, for some reason the enabledByAnimationSource parameter isn't working on the Po-30. Double-checked config viewer that the source is called Doors, but the FFV seat is always active.

[hearty sandal]

Does it need to be door or doors?

[tacit zealot]

As far as I know it's doors - the single animation opens both sides, but I guess door is worth a shot

Just checked, nope, doesn't work.
I did notice I had to use AnimateSource/AnimationSourcePhase instead of AnimateDoor and AnimationPhase to get the doors action to work, like so:

        statement = "this animateSource ['Doors',1];";```

[hearty sandal]

I am fairly sure its door

@tacit zealot

[tacit zealot]

what helicopter classname is that? None of those animation sources look familiar. I unpacked the config.bin today and found this:

[viral dragon]

source in this part of the config is for determining what type of interaction the animation is controlled by, not the name of an actual animation source. Note how some of the other animation sources in those config examples have source = "user" or "damper". They're universal enums, not sources for use with animateSource.

animateSource uses the classname in AnimationSources

[tacit zealot]

Yeah, my action using the classname works at least
Then how would I get the correct string for enabledByAnimationSource? All I can think of is using dubious methods to examine the model.cfg

[viral dragon]

Have you compared it to another vehicle that has FFV enabled by an animation source? I think uhhh the LoW cargo/passenger vans have some seats with that mechanic. You could see if there's anything they do that's of interest.

[tacit zealot]

I've been using the CH-67 as my reference, and I have a working example for the UH-80 as well. My class structure is identical to the CH-67's except for the view limit definitions

[viral dragon]

I assume the commented-out value here is what the CH-67 uses?
I notice it has _source on the end. Does the corresponding animationSources class on the CH-67 have that on the end of its classname? If not, then try putting _source on the end of your value.

[tacit zealot]

Tried that to no avail. I recall digging through the Arma 2 model.cfgs that lots of things were internally in Czech. Maybe this one is too... nope
even the dubious method to check the model.cfg of the actual model points to `source="doors"; for all its door part translations and hides

[nimble sequoia]

   class door1_open {
      source = "door";
      animPeriod = 2.5;
      initPhase = 0;
   };
};
class Turrets {
   class codriver_ffv: CargoTurret {
      enabledByAnimationSource = "door1_open";
      isPersonTurret = 1;
   };
};
class UserActions {
   class door1_open {
      ...
      condition = "alive this && (this turretUnit[0] == player) && (this doorPhase 'door1_open' < 0.5)";
      statement = "this animateDoor ['door1_open', 1];";
   };
   class door1_close {
      ...
      condition = "alive this && (this turretUnit[0] == player) && (this doorPhase 'door1_open' > 0.5)";
      statement = "this animateDoor ['door1_open', 0];";
   };
};```

[winter rain]

Has anyone tried/experimented with something weird like you got a MainTurret (Player) and you got a NewTurret (AI) and you got a MachineGun in MainTurret with mempointsGun attached to NewTurret but MainTurret is using the MachineGun (fires it)?

I did a test, effects appear on the NewTurret like gunEffects (smoke) and cartridge exit too but the bullets still go straight where Player (MainTurret) is looking at and not where NewTurret is looking at..

Or is it possible to enable manual fire of NewTurret as MainTurret?

[mortal pumice]

@dark anchor did something similar with the mantis in optre I think

Maybe they can help

[dark anchor]

Unfortunately 99% of my system is script.
While I do have memory points set up on the mantis and memory points on each weapon, they are merely for me to reference in the code to spawn said weapons or projectile spawn points from each weapon's barrel poz.

I think what sentry needs to do is add a different muzzle, if I'm reading what they are describing properly.

But they would already know to do that so I'm probably misunderstanding

[winter rain]

Im doing this guy completly working with both turrets seperated + mainturret as player. AI vehicle only works as it has to work but player not 100%, mostly 95%.. i got stuck with the firecommands, something gets bugged when AI gets forced to fire it keeps for that moment the position until you release LMB / or when mag is empty and has to reload and doesnt follow cursor anymore while its fireing.. only if you release short LMB and if it reloads it follows your cursor.

I want to get rid to force the AI to fire with script cause targeting with my cursor works so it follows.. i want to try to make it fire with manual fire but dont know if that works (im just trying now stuff).. so if its possible to enable manualfire for both like commander can enable manual fire for gunner.. or the other way ive tried already to give the gunarms the start and end points of weapon but like ive mentioned above the guneffects work there but bullets keep go straight of mainTurret and not of gunarms

Means i cant fire at moving targets fullauto with pressing constantly LMB

Got to release and do like bursts or when reload happens, not good for players

[dark anchor]

have you considered doing what the dual minugun helicopter does and having the fire position alternate between the two arms when firing?

to make it seem like both are shooting at the same time but its just one gun

[winter rain]

I did this before with my hover MLRS and his rockets to make the rocket coming out of each tube yeah.. not sure if this will work for 2 animated gunarms but could be a try worth yeah.. good input

Just a bit mad and not sure if its a bug if you force AI to shoot it stucks at position

If this would work it would work 100%

[winter rain]

• not sure if this works cause these miniguns are both just straight

mines are animated gunarms with turn and elevation

[dark anchor]

yea the memory points can be attached to the arms independently

so the fire positions would follow their "weapon" arm independently and you would just have them alternate.
maybe alternate "visibility" instead of position

[winter rain]

the direction needs also to be like the gunarms are and thats what im not sure if it still follows mainturret direction or not

[dark anchor]

[winter rain]

did this already

thats why the effects appear on correct pos but not the bullets

[dark anchor]

okay solid

one sec

[winter rain]

you can also PM me

[dark anchor]

class muzzle_l_Hide
                {
                    type="hide";
                    source="revolving";
                    selection="muzzle_l";
                    minValue = 0.000000;
                    maxValue = 1.00000;
                    animPeriod  = 0.1;
                    memory    = 1;
                    hideValue = 0.5;
                    initPhase = 1;
                };
            class muzzle_r_Hide:muzzle_l_Hide
                {
                    type="hide";
                    source="revolving";
                    selection="muzzle_r";
                    minValue = 0.000000;
                    maxValue = 1.00000;
                    animPeriod  = 0.1;
                    memory    = 1;
                    hideValue = 0.5;
                    initPhase = 0;
                };

tho you'd probably have to change the values so that both cant be visible at the same time

[tacit zealot]

ah, so taking the animation source class and putting source = "door";, and adjusting the action appropriately fixed it.

[coral knoll]

what actually determines what an itemType is, looking through some configs I cant find something that defines what it is
BIS_fnc_itemType specificly when using this function

[viral dragon]

You can open BIS_fnc_itemType in the Functions Viewer to see what it checks

[coral knoll]

would you happen to know what it is under

[viral dragon]

If you use Advanced Developer Tools (and I highly recommend it) you can search by name

[coral knoll]

real

[tacit zealot]

Okay, so I have one last bug to iron out. Both the left seat and right seat use pos cargo and pos cargo dir for their get in memory point. However, when outside the helicopter, there is only the option to get in the left seat. The right seat is only available as an option once the player is in the left seat or a passenger seat. I know this model isn't set up with this ability in mind, but why might the action for the second seat not be appearing?
AI seems to be able to hop in from outside just fine
Furthermore, the Right Window option does appear when the left window seat is occupied

[winter rain]

Check this out, there are some entries which make it possible to enter from outside, or only enter from insidd to switch turret seats
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Turret_Config_Reference

There are also other useful entries

[winter rain]

i fixed my issue did a cfg entry wrong 😅

[dark anchor]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-attack-cat-bite-cat-biting-cat-chomp-cat-chomping-gif-5071847928240632983

[winter rain]

did it like before just regular 2 turrets no alternating points

[nimble sequoia]

Turret seats need to have their own dedicated get-in/out memory points.
Try isPersonTurret = 2;

[silent depot]

Is there some debugging for config files? I'm getting some errors, but the game doesn't specify from which addon

[chilly tulip]

I'd have thought you could tell by context.

It won't specify the addon but it'll specify filepath, and you shouldn't have two addons with the same prefix.

[tacit zealot]

ispersonturret = 2 did nothing, but I think I'm willing to overlook, since current implementation is fully AI compatible, and players can get to the right seat by hopping in first (or directly if left seat is blocked)
Thanks for the help!

[hearty sandal]

disable addons see when it stops

[empty sable]

Hey Apollo, sorry to ping I got that stuff installed; but setting up a "workspace" is there a "recommended" place I should put it or could I just slap that sucker onto my desktop where I can easily find it?

[empty sable]

oh nvm, did not see that lol

[empty sable]

so once I do that, part if I understand; the only thing that should be in the arma_dev file is this?

[nimble sequoia]

Put your work files in some folder that doesn't start with an @
The @folder is the one which contains the finished pbo and should be with your other downloaded mods

I suggested you might want to create an sob folder in your p drive and do your modding work inside that
#arma3_config message

[empty sable]

I guess I should have told you my file structure at the moment post-pbo

@Project_Sword
| mod.cpp
| SOBARMA.paa
| addons
| | [This is where my .pbo is]

[nimble sequoia]

Yeah that's fine, but put it with your other mods, not in the p drive

[empty sable]

like the general mods I install from the workshop? the hidden Workshop folder?

[nimble sequoia]

Possibly not the workshop folder as that might get overwritten. Somewhere that you would put other mods you manually downloaded. Anyway, that's up to you, but not the p drive.

[empty sable]

to be 100% transparent, I have never manually downloaded mods. I started playing Arma roughly 5 months after that one site everyone got mods from went down lol

every mod I have ever installed was from the Steam Workshop. I personally like to keep stuff im working on, on my desktop so its a easy grab

Apologies for the annoying questions that should probably be simple lol; I've watched tutorials and read guides on steam and not a single one has ever talked about using these tools and setups

[empty sable]

Pre-PBO file path is like this though

Project_Sword
| mod.cpp
| SOBARMA.paa
| addons
| | Common // This doesnt have anything in it, it was added while I was following a tutorial
| | Offroad
| | | config.cpp
| | | data // This is where all my textures are placed

[waxen cosmos]

Does anyone know what would cause a Member already defined error? It's currently pointing to an empty line in my cfgVehicles, but immediately before it are #includes for different files, but I can't find a conflict in either of them

[wintry tartan]

Member already defined will be caused by duplicated class, regardless you notice or not. Scan precisely especially the include files

Also, IIRC the error should tell which class is duped

[waxen cosmos]

Give me a sec and I'll screenshot the error because I think I must be missing something somewhere

[wintry tartan]

Screenshot of the error alone will not solve it. You also need the config itself

[waxen cosmos]

Here's the error and what it's pointing to, am I wrong in thinking that it's trying to say there is another class cfgVehicles?

[wintry tartan]

How do you include that hpp

This hpp does not look alright anyways. Why you have multiple vehicle outside of cfgVehicles

[waxen cosmos]

It was just for ease of editing really, I have a similar setup for infantry and it doesn't cause problems. What do you mean by it doesn't look alright?

[wintry tartan]

The latter part of my post says why it doesn't look alright

[wheat sluice]

//////////////////////
//Base Vehicle Class//
//////////////////////

class rhsusf_m1a2sep1tuskiid_usarmy;
class RHS_M2A3_BUSKIII;
class RHS_M6;
class rhsusf_m113d_usarmy;
class rhsusf_m113d_usarmy_unarmed;
class rhsusf_m113d_usarmy_medical;
class rhsusf_stryker_m1132_m2_d;

class rhsusf_m1a2sep1tuskiiwd_usarmy;
class rhsusf_m113_usarmy;
class rhsusf_m113_usarmy_unarmed;
class rhsusf_m113_usarmy_medical;
class rhsusf_stryker_m1132_m2_wd;

class RHS_MELB_AH6M;
class RHS_UH60M_d;
class RHS_UH60M;

...those are not global classes. They need to be inside CfgVehicles.

[wintry tartan]

And no that's not what I ask. I ask what is the entire context of include in config.cpp

[waxen cosmos]

So base game unit classes work outside of cfgVehicles but modded ones need to be inside?

[wheat sluice]

Base game unit classes don't work outside of CfgVehicles. It doesn't matter if it's from vanilla or a mod; humans, ground vehicles, planes, etc. are all "vehicles".
You don't inherit from global classes unless you're grabbing a property for something that's used by the vehicle.

[waxen cosmos]

My config.cpp is just a list of #includes to the separated files, literally just the following:

#include "define_macros.hpp"
#include "cfgFunctions.hpp"
#include "cfgPatches.hpp"
#include "cfgFactionClasses.hpp"
#include "cfgWeapons.hpp"
#include "cfgEditorCategories.hpp"
#include "cfgUnitInsignias.hpp"
#include "cfgTroops.hpp"
#include "cfgVehicles.hpp"
#include "cfg3DEN.hpp"

[waxen cosmos]

Then why does it work here?

Or is it just luck that it's working and not throwing errors?

[wheat sluice]

It doesn't "work" though. All you did was create empty global classes for B_Soldier_TL_F, B_Soldier_SL_F, B_soldier_LAT_F, etc.
Whatever you defined inside CfgVehicles is simply inheriting from the headers that you #include, hence why you aren't getting any errors.

[waxen cosmos]

So pretty much just luck, rightio then

[wintry tartan]

The error only complains when the syntax is broken. Having vehicle class like this is not a syntax error, but will just not work intentionally

[wintry tartan]

And yeah, this is causing it. You have two cfgVehicles because having both cfgVehicles.hpp and cfgTroops.hpp that's why you have the error

#include does not do any error check etc. It only does dumb copy and paste

[waxen cosmos]

Okay, I shall give it a fix and a try and see how it goes, thank you for the insight

[toxic solar]

what does explosionTime = -1; mean?

[mortal pumice]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/CfgAmmo_Config_Reference#explosionTime

“Declares after how many seconds ammo will explode (e.g. used on timed hand grenades). If set to -1, grenade will act as impact grenade.”

[waxen cosmos]

Does anyone know how to make something show up in Zeus? I've got scope and scopeCurator set to 2 but I'm only getting 1 of 4 vehicles showing up and I'm not even sure why that 1 is showing up and not the others

[wintry tartan]

Make sure the crew are also scopeCurator = 2 and listed in CfgPatches

[waxen cosmos]

Ahh, cfgPatches was what I was missing. Seems like I'm just losing my mind these days...don't even remember doing the first one but ohh well, thank you 🙂

[wintry tartan]

Nothing scares me but configuring Zeus does

[waxen cosmos]

😂

[toxic solar]

I totally forgot about that

[wintry fox]

The crew also needs to be listed in CfgPatches >> units as well
In case you run into more issues

[waxen cosmos]

Appreciate it, all the units are accounted for, just working on vehicles at the moment so shouldn’t have that issue for the crew 👍🏻

[lean bloom]

Uhm, please, is it possible in any way to join two distinct turretInfoType elements into one?

There is a custom one that creates a moving optics overlay, but I would also like to include the vanilla RscOptics_APC_Wheeled_01_gunner to make use of the rangefinder because I am too stupid to create my own.

Can I achieve this in any way?

[wintry fox]

They're just ui classes in CfgInGameUI

You can just copy the controls from the vanilla and include it in your custom one

[lean bloom]

Hmmmm, I will take a gander, cheers

[toxic solar]

is there some point where if the initSpeed on the mag for a GL round like on a mk19 is high enough that the shell model wont render? I increased the velocity to 600 and even if I slow time down I dont see the shell spawn but if its say the initSpeed = 240 or near the basegame value the shell model is shown

[hearty sandal]

did you look far enough forward?

at that speed it would get pretty far fast

(it migth not be shown thought that is a possibility)

[toxic solar]

I did setAcctime 0.01, and I think I looked far ahead enough. let me try one thing by makin my shell super big in p3d

[toxic solar]

yeah I think it gets hidden after a certain velocity, I made projectile super big and one mag with slow velocity shows and the higher one doesnt show 🙁

[novel lava]

yeah it does dont remember what speed it is

it will reappear if the round slows down enough

[toxic solar]

Ahhhh tragic I like shell simulation since it doesn't warp the projectile model

[lean bloom]

Is there some issue with the MX? It is the only vanilla weapon that somehow allows me to load it´s magazines into a completely unrelated launcher.

None of the other vanilla weapons do this.

I quite clearly have the only compatible magazine defined

[wintry fox]

magazineWell should be an empty array, not an array with an empty string. Not sure where it comes from where people do that (not shaming you for it, I just don't get where it started)

Might cause that

[lean bloom]

Good question

[nimble sequoia]

It's a fairly natural interpolation for non-programmers that perhaps aren't familiar with arrays and are having to look for patterns in the language construction imo

Parameter = "something";
Parameter = ""; // empty

Parameter [] = ["something"];
Parameter [] = [""]; // empty?

Whereas correct code is
Parameter [] = [];

[lean bloom]

Yeah, this corrected the issue, thank you very much

[half peak]

When I add the "Stabilize turret" function to the tank, I added "directionStabilized=1" to the "OpticsIn" section, like this.
However, this can only achieve "Locks the camera to area" but cannot achieve "Locks the camera to point (target)". What went wrong

[wheat sluice]

Engine limitation IIRC. It doesn't work (?) for Tank-type vehicles.
Per Apollo on the subject:
#arma3_config message

[half peak]

Well, thanks. seems I wasted time.

[winter rain]

Probably this might help, i do know this command since some hours cause i did get help by KillzoneKid and his improvements with a problem i had

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/lockCameraTo

[sullen fulcrum]

Is there a way to override the default vehicle sound engine in the configs? I want to make new sounds for effects that are normally looped, or ones that are played for a duration (such as an aircraft warning tone). The goal is to play a single and complete sound clip, rather than being at the mercy of the stock system's timing and repetition. Any info on that side of things appreciated.

[hallow quarry]

hello I have a question what does modelSides[] = {3}; mean

modelSides[]={0,1,2};
means opfor,blufor,indfor

[wintry fox]

It's civilian

[hallow quarry]

thanks

[wintry fox]

Trying to remove this like dust / dirt kickup effect from a fake bullet. I've emptied the HitEffects class and set all the effect... properties I can find on the ammo to an empty string but it stills remains.

Any idea where this is set? Other pistols I've looked at don't have this effect

Also my bullet is just inheriting from FakeAmmo, if that affects anything

[nimble sequoia]

Penetration rvmat of the impacted surface?

[wintry fox]

Wouldn't make sense, other pistols don't do it

Those point to the ammo's HitEffects anyway

[winter rain]

mostly 23 hiteffects, you did get all of em?

[wintry fox]

I emptied the class which has worked in the past, as well as setting all of them to an empty class name

[winter rain]

so it works now?

[wintry fox]

No

[winter rain]

so my ones dont do anything

try it out which one it is or compare it with yours what you dont have what i have

    {
        displayName = "Sonic";
        model = "\tg_weapons\gdi\model\gdi_disruptor_beam.p3d";

        deflecting = 0;
        deflectionDirDistribution=0;

        effectsFire = "TG_Sonic_Fired";
        effectFly = "TG_Sonic_Fly";

        hit = 150;
        indirectHit = 50;
        indirectHitRange = 5;

        cost = 1;
        coefGravity = 0;
        typicalSpeed = 500;
        caliber = 100;
        timeToLive = 1;
        airFriction = 0.0;
        explosive=0;
        fuseDistance = 0;
        tracersEvery = 1; 
        tracerScale = 1;
        tracerStartTime = 0.001;
        tracerEndTime = 2.5;

        soundFly[] = {"",0,0,0};
        soundEngine[] = {"",0,0,0};
        supersonicCrackNear[] = {"",0,0,0};
        supersonicCrackFar[] = {"",0,0,0};

        CraterEffects = "";
        explosionEffects = "";
        muzzleEffect = "";
        craterShape="\A3\weapons_f\empty.p3d";

        soundHit1[]={""};
        multiSoundHit[]={"soundHit1",0};
        aiAmmoUsageFlags="64 + 128 + 512";

        audibleFire = 0;

        //lightColor[] = {0, 1, 1, 0};

        class HitEffects
        {
            Hit_Foliage_green = "";
            Hit_Foliage_Dead = "";
            Hit_Foliage_Green_big = "";
            Hit_Foliage_Palm = "";
            Hit_Foliage_Pine = "";
            hitFoliage = "";
            hitGlass = "";
            hitGlassArmored = "";
            hitWood = "";
            hitHay = "";
            hitMetal = "";
            hitMetalPlate = "";
            hitBuilding = "";
            hitPlastic = "";
            hitRubber = "";
            hitConcrete = "";
            hitMan = "";
            hitGroundSoft = "";
            hitGroundRed = "";
            hitGroundHard = "";
            hitWater = "";
            hitVirtual = "";
            default_mat = "";
        };
    };```

[wintry fox]

I have all those same hit effects set, would probably have to see full config in-game to try and see any differences

[winter rain]

could also be this here
CraterEffects = ""; explosionEffects = ""; muzzleEffect = ""; craterShape="\A3\weapons_f\empty.p3d";

[wintry fox]

Checked all those

This is the full config + inheritance for the bullet
https://gist.github.com/DartRuffian/ba5cda39cddb0bd4994613b07cdc58f2

[ancient tusk]

anyone have/know of a config that effects a players speed when equipping a certain uniform/vest? example equip heavy armor but it will slow them down

[wintry fox]

There's not
Movement speed is tied to the animation. You could use setAnimSpeedCoef but mods tend to change that and reset it back to 1

[tacit needle]

Huh?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2834925596

[wheat sluice]

That mod you've linked does exactly what Dart said. Its movement_system.sqf script just has an event handler that changes the user's animation speed with setAnimSpeedCoef.

[tacit needle]

he also said that other mods reset it, though I have yet to see that when using this mod

[viral dragon]

It's not that all other mods will reset it, it's that any mod may choose to reset it, if that mod wants to adjust movement or animation speed for any reason.
If the mod's playing it safe then it might save the previous animSpeedCoef first and restore to that rather than to 1, but if it doesn't, or you have several mods manipulating the coef at unpredictable times, there's still room for conflicts to develop.

Or, the other way: this mod enforcing its continuous coef changes might interfere with other mods that try to do temporary changes.

[tame raven]

my kingdom for a stackable animspeedcoef

[ancient tusk]

not quite what was looking for but gives me a direction

[tacit zealot]

Has anyone ever tried assigning pylons to door guns on helicopters? I'm using my standard method where I remove ammo from the turret magazines list, and add pylons which assign it there. It works by default, but if I go into the Attributes/Pylons menu (open it, not even changing anything), the turrets break
Pic 1: Intended functionality: spawn helicopter, hop in
Pic 2: Vehicle Attributes was opened and closed. Turret is static, moving mouse moves player head.
Pic 3: Pylons menu, nothing unexpected happening here
Pic 4: Config.

I know I'm not assigning pylons to the wrong turret, since if I type something like 5 for the turrets array, the minigun will be movable and tell me I have no ammo.

[echo trench]

Is there any up-to-date documentation on making Zeus modules?

[wintry fox]

What do you think is wrong with the current docs

[echo trench]

Didn't mean it like that, I'm coming back from a few years away. So running into some issues wondering if things changed. Ill re read everything.

[wintry tartan]

It is very unlikely to face some instructions are broken and won't work. Only expect minor changes

[steady beacon]

Yes it's borked pylons don't work properly with multiple turrets, only way to make it work as you want is a scripted solution possibly

[whole jacinth]

I'm having an issue while configuring the aircraft cockpit HUD. Since I'm working on a Chinese aircraft, it only has a HUD and no HMD. I really like the HUD configuration style used in the To-201 from the Jets DLC, so I directly copied the entire class MFD block from the To-201's config into my aircraft class (and I also added the HUD position memory points in the memory LOD).
However, the HUD still doesn’t display correctly (nothing is showing at all).

My question is: besides class MFD, are there any other classes or properties related to HUD rendering that I might have missed?

[nimble sequoia]

Very short on time to reply, but will just through this your way class AirplaneHUD {};

[whole jacinth]

Sorry, I forgot to mention—the issue has been resolved. The key was that I hadn’t added the macros contained in the attribute defaultUserMFDvalues[] = {0.15,1.0,0.15,0.65};.

[fast ruin]

Is there anyway to take a facewear item and make it a headgear if it hasn’t been predefined as a headgear item?

[lean bloom]

Can someone perhaps have an idea what the issue could be?

We have a new mod that is using an older mod of ours as a dependency, and the newer mod contains a model from the old mod. The texture / rvmat file paths have been retained, so the new mod is pulling these from the older mod. That is fine.

But the textures referenced inside the old mod´s rvmats are not getting pulled from the older mod. It is quite easily visible on the model, yet there is no error message displayed anywhere.
I even ran into a scenario where only some of the texture sets´ rvmats worked correctly, while others didn´t. I´d virtually have 4 sets of correct textures and a single one with omitted rvmat textures.

I honestly have no clue what the issue is....

Can´t make it make sense. Is it a packing software issue? Or something with binarization?

I really don ´t want to copy paste the textures from the old mod into the new one and redo the paths since that is a lot of work and it would simply duplicate the textures and spike the addon size for absolutely no reason

[wintry fox]

Yeah, the p3ds (helmets and facewear) are set up the same way
Just need to do normal helmet config and set the model/uniformModel

[dreamy vine]

Does anyone know where in the code I add a texture to an object?

[wintry fox]

hiddenSelectionsTextures
You'll also need to list the sections in hiddenSelections

Tldr is selections are vertex groups that you set in the model.cfg >> sections + hiddenSelections in config

[hearty sandal]

texture and material should be assigned on the model

not in config

config is meant for changing the texture/material

which buildings typically dont do as its not supported by terrain placed objects

[mortal pumice]

Can item_base_f or thingX inherited objects do damage texture switching?

[lean bloom]

To follow up on this I am going to assume this is actually some Arma issue that I can´t find documented anywhere.

I just did a simple test to prove that something is not quite right:

I have a static mortar in one mod, and a tracked vehicle carrying this mortar in another mod.

1. I go to editor and spawn the tracked version first: the _smdi, _as and _nohq of the static mortar do not load
2. I try spawning the static mortar itself right after - the textures still don´t load
3. Restart the game and clear cache
4. I go to editor and spawn the static mortar first - all textures load correctly
5. I spawn the tracked version right after - all textures load correctly

I tried reversing the order and the results were the same

Why do I have to first spawn the static version first before I can spawn the tracked one? Why do I first need to load an asset from the dependency mod for the game to correctly load the textures I am referencing in a different mod?

Here is the scenario where I start with the tracked version first:

And here I spawn the static version first:

So whatever I define in Blender (_co and .rvmat) work correctly, but whatever is referenced inside the .rvmat is not working correctly

[grim tree]

Well folks, having an issue getting a new bit of gear into the game, I am assuming its a config error, I I pop some screenshots of the mod directory in and the Cfg could someone help point me in the right direction pls?

[wintry fox]

http://dontasktoask.com/

[grim tree]

I have managed to sort it myself anyways lol

[tacit zealot]

You have to have it configured as an HMD not a HUD.
If you want to learn, use the F/A-181's as a reference and try to map similar bones/draws
Maybe also consider checking out the Xi-an's HUD and removing the VTOL stuff from it and adding some fighter jet elements

[median orchid]

Anyone know what in config defines if a plane/vehicle shows the throttle/thrust % info in the UI?

[median orchid]

Found what I was looking for unitInfoType

[bitter niche]

Where can I get a better understanding of strings in config, especially ''

[woeful gull]

I need to get some help on how to reference an image. I'm making some invisible NVGs for AI to use. To prevent players from using them I'm adding a full-white image overlay when they are turned on to blind them. Issue I'm having is how to properly reference the overlay image. I've done custom NVG overlays a while ago and my old files just have the image name by itself, but when I copy that format now it's not working.

The file structure is in the images. This pbo will be repacked into a larger one sitting at the same level as @Local_test_mod

{
    class ItemInfo;
    class NVGoggles;
    class NVGoggles_AI: NVGoggles
    {
        model = "";
        picture = "";
        descriptionUse = "FOR AI USE ONLY";
        visionMode[] = {"Normal","NVG"};
        class ItemInfo: ItemInfo
        {
            type = 616;
            uniformModel = "";
            modelOff = "";
            mass = 0;
        };
        displayName = "AI NVGs";
        modelOptics = "";
        ace_nightvision_border = "nvg_mask_4096_AI.paa";
        ace_nightvision_bluRadius = 0;
        ace_nightvision_colorPreset[] = {0,{0,0,0,0},{1.3,1.2,0,0.9},{6,1,1,0}};
        hoa_sling_slingWithHelmet = 1;
        hoa_sling_hideWhenSlung = 0;
    };
};```

Everything works fine except I get a cant find error referencing the image name when turning the NVGs on

[rain scarab]

ace_nightvision_border should probably have the path to your file: 3SA_NVGs_V1\nvg_mask_4096_AI.paa

[woeful gull]

I'm sure that's the issue, but I can't seem to get the correct filepath formating. Lemme try what you just posted since I havent tried that varaition

[woeful gull]

Thank you so much. That was it

[rain scarab]

Lmfao

Good

[wintry fox]

Those are the default values for nvgs for HOA btw

[woeful gull]

HOA?

[wintry fox]

Helmet on ass (helmet sling mod), you have config properties for it in your config

[woeful gull]

Oh, I actually need to pull those out

may be why im getting a missing image error when I open my inventory\

[wintry fox]

Not that

It's because you have the picture as an empty string

You can just remove the line and be fine

Also if you don't want players to use it, add scope = 1 and it won't be in the arsenal

[woeful gull]

I wanted to have the icon be blank so players don't even notice them if they look at enemy inventories. Is there a Null image I can use instead?

[wintry fox]

Probably one in vanilla yeah but I wouldn't know where
Can also make one pretty easy though, just take a blank page and use image to paa

[woeful gull]

yeah, lemme do that.

[mortal pumice]

Anyone know what method spearhead cdlc uses to allow towing of trailers and artillery etc.

Is it with a very small rope and disabling the breaks?

[remote mist]

Regarding hiddenSelectionTextures: can I make it so when a player grabs a weapon from the arsenal it spawns with a random texture from an assortment of options? If so, how?

[mortal pumice]

I don’t believe you can switch textures on a weapon while ingame, you can define them I believe in the weapons config so you could make several variants such as gun_red, gun_blue and gun_green and then have some kind of script that’s linked to the slotitemchanged event handler to check if the weapon taken is on the list and then randomise it to another option?

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Event_Handlers#SlotItemChanged

[wintry fox]

You can't change weapon textures in-game, correct

[remote mist]

End of the day, my hope was to avoid arsenal bloat, so that's a bummer. Guess I'll have to risk hours of Barbie dress-up time when I do the op I was planning to make this mod for

[strange locust]

no arsenal no barbie.

[viral dragon]

It's possible to hide weapons in the arsenal, so using the variants + event handlers method wouldn't necessarily result in extra clutter in the arsenal

[tame raven]

Tbh I'd use an arsenal closed eh (there's a bis scripted one for bi arsenal and a cba eh for the Ace one) rather than slot item changed, since you could just drop and pick up the gun to swap variants

[mortal pumice]

Ah true forgot about arsenal closed

[pale dew]

Uh do you mean only considering config.cpp because

setObjectTexture (local effect only)

object setObjectTexture [selectionIndex, "path\to\texture.paa"];

setObjectTextureGlobal (synced across multiplayer)

object setObjectTextureGlobal [selectionIndex, "path\to\texture.paa"];

[viral dragon]

Does not work on weapons as they're just proxies, not unique objects

[pale dew]

Uh, have you tried using the weapon as the object? I'll try this when I get home but I'm certain you can

[viral dragon]

How do you plan to get an object reference to a weapon?

[pale dew]

By referencing the weaponHolder?

[wintry fox]

Weapons when in a unit's hands aren't objects

[viral dragon]

A weaponHolder is just an invisible container that shows the models of things in it. There could be many things in it. How do you expect to target a weapon in it? Using which command?

[pale dew]

Again I'm not 100%

[wintry fox]

You could use setObjectTexture on like a simple object that uses the model of a weapon, but that's different

[pale dew]

Haven't done that one specifically. But sounds like a challenge

[wintry fox]

You can't

Could probably retexture a backpack in a container though, since they're objects

[viral dragon]

Weapons, like almost all inventory items, literally do not exist as unique/persistent entities in the world. There's just an object that knows it has a weapon in its inventory, so it pulls that weapon class's model and uses it as a proxy on its own model.

[pale dew]

Ye of little faith, i have made custom unit skeletons before, custom guns, uniforms, vest and sqfs. I know the makeup of a unit. And I'll come to the conclusion one way or another

[viral dragon]

Alright, well, good luck and let us know how you get on with finding an object reference to something that is not an object.

[wintry fox]

It's literally just not how the engine works

[tame raven]

dart what if you uiontex inside the gun model and use that to script a change in texture with an rscpicture

[wintry fox]

I was gonna say that, but it'd affect all instances of it so meh

[tame raven]

that's also uhm

[wintry fox]

Could do the tfar thing of 1000 different classes

[tame raven]

really cumbersome and stupid

[tame raven]

hell yeah let's go

[wintry fox]

Invisible model in config and createSimpleObject

[tame raven]

attachto offset bug tho

[wintry fox]

Yeah

[tame raven]

plus uh

first person rendering "bug"

[wintry fox]

Definitely "options", wouldn't ever use them though

[tame raven]

is it a bug if it's just How View Pilot Works ?

[wintry fox]

It's a critter

[viral dragon]

A bug implies it's not on purpose, and the rendering order is definitely on purpose

[wintry fox]

Could force a specific texture in the res lod though

Doing that for a sci-fi thing so you don't see UI stuff on other people's weapons

[calm pilot]

Hey people, i was wondering if it is possible to assign the smoke launcher to the gunner or driver in tracked vehicles instead of the commander.

Or should i just have the commander in place of the gunner turret?

[winter rain]

Is both possible
I got a APC with only driver and has SmokeLauncher and i got a tracked Vehicle only Driver and Gunner and Gunner has SmokeLauncher

[calm pilot]

Nice, would u mind sharing the config setup for the latter? That being gunner having the smoke launcher 🙏🏻

[winter rain]

Im at work now, can do later in like 4 hours if you dont have it working until then

There are simple cfg entries just dont have it in mind

[calm pilot]

Np i can wait. Cheers man

[hearty sandal]

commander is just another turret

but named "commander"

[mortal pumice]

Just bumping my question, having had a look its possible its entirely scripted. It appears things like the towable artillery has a bunch of variables configured such as the wheels that are used, the distance to the hitch, the distance between the wheels etc.

Any further info on how this was all works together to get to the end result would be very interesting

[hearty sandal]

it is "just maths" 😅

[hallow verge]

Hey guys, I have a custom unit using a custom Cfg for its own animations. How do I apply PhysX when the unit is killed? Do I leave the file input as "" or...?

[mortal pumice]

I think that's possibly the most apt condensed version haha

Is it the same-ish implementation as this mod? https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1413218487&searchtext=towing

It seems to have a similar effect, but maybe abit more jittery

[half peak]

Hey, guys. I tried to increase the range of the 120mm canno, but I encountered the problem of the impact point being too close. I changed "timeToLive" and "discreteDistance". It seems that as the distance increases, the trajectory becomes more curved, but there is a problem that the impact point is getting closer to the launch platform. Is this a problem with the underlying code?

[hearty sandal]

what did you change to increase the range?

[wheat sluice]

Neither of those tokens are actually increasing the range of your 120mm shells:

• Increasing the CfgAmmo value for timeToLive just extends the lifespan of the shell before the engine stops simulating it (and disappears in the case of shotShell simulation). Your shell will now fly all the way for however long you increased its lifespan, but it still loses velocity at the same rate that it did before you increased the time. So basically nothing got changed since most tank shells like AP sabots fly at 3x-4.5x the speed of sound anyway (1,300-1,600 m/s).
• Adding more range elements to the tank turret's discreteDistance[] in CfgVehicles only changes the zeroing, but doesn't actually mean that the shells that get fired will go all the way to whatever elements you defined (i.e. having the last element for discreteDistance[] be 10000 does not mean that your 120mm cannon's shells are going to fly all the way to 10,000 metres). This is why your shell seems to be landing off-target in your screenies; it's because your weapon's zeroing limit was increased, which alters the trajectory of the shell's flight, but the rate at which the shell loses its velocity continues to stay unchanged.

If you really want to increase the range, you need to tweak several other things:
CfgAmmo

• Decrease the airFriction of the shell so that it loses velocity at a slower rate, giving you a flatter trajectory.
  CfgMagazines
• Boost the muzzle velocity of the projectile by increasing the initSpeed value to something higher.
  CfgWeapons (optional)
• Adjust the dispersion of the 120mm cannon itself to a lower value so that its accuracy isn't affected too much at extreme distances.
• Increase the maxZeroing cap so that your weapon will actually be able to change its zeroing to whatever value you defined in the vehicle's discreteDistance[]. Don't forget that this affects both autozeroing from the cannon's FCS as well as manual zeroing.

[nimble sequoia]

What a well thought out and explained answer, nice one drebin.

[half peak]

I only changed "timeToLive" (to ensure it has enough flight time to hit the target) and "discreteDistance" (which can be manually adjusted to reach a longer range from zero). In fact, this is quite effective. However, the final flight distance will be a little shorter. This distance value increases as the distance to the target increases. For example, in the uploaded images, they are respectively 4500m, 5000m, 5500m, and 6200m away from the tank.

[half peak]

Thank you for your guidance. However, I attempted to modify airFriction and sideairFriction, setting them to 0. This merely made the distance of the trajectory deviation a little longer, but still failed to eliminate the error in the trajectory. Regarding initSpeed, I don't want to set this value too high. Moreover, it won't completely solve the problem of trajectory errors.
Regarding maxZeroing, 120mm_he does not impose any restrictions on this aspect. It is mostly used to limit coaxial machine guns.
Regarding dispersion, I can be certain that it is not caused by errors.

[half peak]

I think this kind of trajectory deviation is caused by the game engine. I tried to perform similar operations on many weapons, such as rocket launchers, rifles, and 30mm cannons. All of them had the same problem -Vertical correction value is too low. , and as the distance increased, this error gradually became larger.

[wheat sluice]

Nope. It works just fine and HE shells hit directly on target. I changed the following settings for the vanilla 120mm HE shells fired by the MBT-52 Kuma (see attached txt) and it hits on target for something located at a distance of 6,250 metres.

sideairFriction
That's for shotMissile simulation. It isn't relevant to shotShell projectiles.

Regarding initSpeed, I don't want to set this value too high. Moreover, it won't completely solve the problem of trajectory errors.
That's...going to be problematic since it absolutely does affect the shell's trajectory.

Regarding dispersion, I can be certain that it is not caused by errors.
Are you sure? Tweaking this to a high value absolutely did increase the radius spread of the HE shell. High values drastically widened the random radius in which the shell landed. Low values (which in this case I had set to zero) made it land 100% on target all the time.

[woeful gull]

Need some help with an aircraft weapon. I'm trying to make a gun that just drops flares/colored smoke out off the aircraft to simulate the pilot dropping them out the window basically. I've gotten it to the point where there are no errors, but the weapon simply doesn't show up when cycling through the available weapons.

{
    class manual{};
    class sab_fl_1x_cannon_weapon;
    class 3SA_Air_UtilityLauncher: sab_fl_1x_cannon_weapon
    {
        scope = 1;
        displayName = "Utility Dispenser";
        magazines[] = 
        {
            "3SA_AirDep_FlareWhite_20rnd",
        };
        magazineReloadTime = 0.1;
        class manual: manual
        {
            displayName = "Utility Dispenser";
            reloadTime = 2;
            dispersion = 0;
        };
    };
};
class CfgVehicles
{
    class sab_sw_i16_base;
    class sab_sw_i16: sab_sw_i16_base
    {
        weapons[] = 
        {
            "sab_fl_2x_lmg_weapon",
            "sab_fl_2x_cannon_weapon",
            "3SA_Air_UtilityLauncher"
        };
        magazines[] = 
        {
            "sab_fl_3800rnd_lmg_std_mag_air",
            "sab_fl_680rnd_cannon_std_mag_air",
            "3SA_AirDep_FlareWhite_20rnd",
        };
    };
};```

This is what the sab_fl_1x_cannon_weapon looks like

{
    displayName = "Cannon";
    magazines[] = {"sab_fl_120rnd_cannon_std_mag","sab_fl_180rnd_cannon_std_mag","sab_fl_200rnd_cannon_std_mag","sab_fl_270rnd_cannon_std_mag","sab_fl_360rnd_cannon_std_mag","sab_fl_500rnd_cannon_std_mag","sab_fl_600rnd_cannon_std_mag","sab_fl_680rnd_cannon_std_mag"};
    class manual: manual
    {
        reloadTime = 0.1;
        dispersion = 0.0015;
    };
    class GunParticles
    {
        class FirstEffect
        {
            effectName = "MachineGun1";
            positionName = "z_gun_muzzle";
            directionName = "z_gun_muzzle";
        };
        class effect1
        {
            positionName = "z_gun_chamber";
            directionName = "z_gun_chamber";
            effectName = "MachineGunCartridge";
        };
    };
};```

[wheat sluice]

class manual{};

[woeful gull]

And sab_fl_cannon_base

{
    scope = 2;
    displayname = "Sabre Cannon";
    class manual: manual
    {
        displayName = "";
        sounds[] = {"StandardSound"};
        class StandardSound: StandardSound
        {
            begin1[] = {"A3\Sounds_F\arsenal\weapons_vehicles\cannon_40mm\autocannon_40mm_body_01",1.1,1,1500};
            begin2[] = {"A3\Sounds_F\arsenal\weapons_vehicles\cannon_40mm\autocannon_40mm_body_02",1.2,1,1500};
            begin3[] = {"A3\Sounds_F\arsenal\weapons_vehicles\cannon_40mm\autocannon_40mm_body_03",1.1,1,1500};
            soundBegin[] = {"begin1",0.33,"begin2",0.33,"begin3",0.34};
        };
        soundContinuous = 0;
        reloadTime = 0.075;
        dispersion = 0.0016;
        aiRateOfFire = 1;
        aiRateOfFireDistance = 10;
        minRange = 0;
        minRangeProbab = 0.01;
        midRange = 1;
        midRangeProbab = 0.01;
        maxRange = 2;
        maxRangeProbab = 0.01;
    };
    class GunParticles
    {
        class effect1
        {
            positionName = "usti hlavne2";
            directionName = "konec hlavne2";
            effectName = "SniperCloud";
        };
    };
};```

[woeful gull]

I'm not the best coder and kind of throwing stuff at the wall. I'm guessing I messed up the inheritance?

Talk to me like an idiot (I usually am)

[wheat sluice]

Yep. That's not how inheritance for firemode classes works. You need to set the inheritance chain properly:

class sab_fl_cannon_base;
class sab_fl_1x_cannon_weapon: sab_fl_cannon_base
{
    // Manual firemode exists within the weapon class that you inherit from
    class manual;
};
// Your custom weapon derived from sab_fl_1x_cannon_weapon
class 3SA_Air_UtilityLauncher: sab_fl_1x_cannon_weapon
{
    // blah blah blah
};

manual on its own doesn't exist in CfgWeapons. Hence why your custom weapon (derived from the original) is getting its properties from class manual{}; (which is empty) instead of inheriting from the manual class within sab_fl_1x_cannon_weapon.

[woeful gull]

so its this correct?

    class sab_fl_1x_cannon_weapon
    {
        class manual;
    };
    class 3SA_Air_UtilityLauncher: sab_fl_1x_cannon_weapon
    {
        scope = 1;
        displayName = "Utility Dispenser";
        magazines[] = 
        {
            "3SA_AirDep_FlareWhite_20rnd",
            "3SA_AirDep_FlareRed_5rnd",
            "3SA_AirDep_FlareGreen_5rnd",
            "3SA_AirDep_Smoke_Red_5rnd",
            "3SA_AirDep_Smoke_Green_5rnd",            
        };
        magazineReloadTime = 0.1;
        class manual: manual
        {
            displayName = "Utility Dispenser";
            reloadTime = 2;
            dispersion = 0;
        };
    };```

[hearty sandal]

we did this kind of thing in SOGPF with submunitions

[wheat sluice]

    class sab_fl_cannon_base;
    class sab_fl_1x_cannon_weapon: sab_fl_cannon_base
    {
        class manual;
    };
    class 3SA_Air_UtilityLauncher: sab_fl_1x_cannon_weapon
    {
        scope = 1;
        displayName = "Utility Dispenser";
        magazines[] = 
        {
            "3SA_AirDep_FlareWhite_20rnd",
            "3SA_AirDep_FlareRed_5rnd",
            "3SA_AirDep_FlareGreen_5rnd",
            "3SA_AirDep_Smoke_Red_5rnd",
            "3SA_AirDep_Smoke_Green_5rnd",            
        };
        magazineReloadTime = 0.1;
        class manual: manual
        {
            displayName = "Utility Dispenser";
            reloadTime = 2;
            dispersion = 0;
        };
    };

Keep a close eye on the external class references:
class sab_fl_cannon_base;
class sab_fl_1x_cannon_weapon: sab_fl_cannon_base{};

[woeful gull]

I've very much at a monkey-see-monkey-do level of skill so I was just trying to copy something else enough to get it mostly working before trying to make it more elegant

[calm pilot]

Hit me up when u can 🤝🏻

[half peak]

Alright, to be precise, the key point is the higher initSpeed. I'm looking for some methods to enable weapons with lower initial speeds to achieve precise hits on targets in a similar manner to how how榴弹炮 (howitzers) can perform curved shots. But such a situation may occur.
I understand that dispersion causes the landing points of the shells to be irregularly scattered. However, for shells fired with a more curved trajectory, the impact points are not like that. Instead, they are densely distributed at a certain distance in front of the target, and this distance increases as the curvature of the trajectory increases.

[half peak]

English is not my native language. I need to use translation software to communicate. If there is any strange tone in my words, believe me, that is not my intention at all.

[woeful gull]

Ok, I've made the correction and also fixed an issue I noticed above and now have this (some cuts for length), but I still have the same problem

{
    class 3SA_FL_Aircraft_Weapons_V1
    {
        units[] = 
        {
            "sab_sw_i16",
        };
        weapons[] = 
        {
            "3SA_Air_UtilityLauncher"
        };
        requiredAddons[] = 
        {
            "sab_sw_i16",
        };
    };
};
class CfgAmmo
{
    class FlareBase;
    class 3SA_AirDep_Flare_White: FlareBase
    {
        lightColor[] = {0.5,0.5,0.5,0.5};
        smokeColor[] = {0.5,0.5,0.5,0.5};
        useFlare = 1;
        brightness = 12;
        size = 1;
        triggerTime = 0.1;
        triggerSpeedCoef = 1;
        intensity = 60000; //40000;
        flareSize = 12;
    };
};
class CfgMagazines
{
    class UGL_FlareWhite_F;
    class 3SA_AirDep_FlareWhite_20rnd: UGL_FlareWhite_F
    {
        displayName = "Illumiation Flares - 20 (White)";
        displayNameShort = "Illumination Flares (White)";
        ammo = "3SA_AirDep_Flare_White";
        initSpeed = 0.1;
        count = 20;
        nameSound = "";
        descriptionShort = "Type: Air-Deployed Illumination Flare - White";
        weaponPoolAvailable = 0;
        mass = 4;
    };
};```

{
    class sab_fl_cannon_base;
    class sab_fl_1x_cannon_weapon: sab_fl_cannon_base
    {
        class manual;
    };
    class 3SA_Air_UtilityLauncher: sab_fl_1x_cannon_weapon
    {
        scope = 1;
        displayName = "Utility Dispenser";
        magazines[] = 
        {
            "3SA_AirDep_FlareWhite_20rnd",
            "3SA_AirDep_FlareRed_5rnd",
            "3SA_AirDep_FlareGreen_5rnd",
            "3SA_AirDep_Smoke_Red_5rnd",
            "3SA_AirDep_Smoke_Green_5rnd",            
        };
        magazineReloadTime = 0.1;
        class manual: manual
        {
            displayName = "Utility Dispenser";
            reloadTime = 2;
            dispersion = 0;
        };
    };
};
class CfgVehicles
{
    class sab_sw_i16_base;
    class sab_sw_i16: sab_sw_i16_base
    {
        weapons[] = 
        {
            "sab_fl_2x_lmg_weapon",
            "sab_fl_2x_cannon_weapon",
            "3SA_Air_UtilityLauncher"
        };
        magazines[] = 
        {
            "sab_fl_3800rnd_lmg_std_mag_air",
            "sab_fl_680rnd_cannon_std_mag_air",
            "3SA_AirDep_FlareWhite_20rnd",
            "3SA_AirDep_FlareRed_5rnd",
            "3SA_AirDep_FlareGreen_5rnd",
            "3SA_AirDep_Smoke_Red_5rnd",
            "3SA_AirDep_Smoke_Green_5rnd",
        };
    };
};```

[wheat sluice]

I think at this point you might as well just convert the vehicle into a pseudo siege tank-like vehicle that has a howitzer for main weapon that looks like a regular tank gun.
You can get more control over the shell's trajectory and CEP by tweaking artilleryDispersion and initSpeed doesn't matter as much since that can be changed by artilleryCharge.
Only downside to this approach is that the RV engine doesn't simulate air drag for artillery shells/rockets.

[wheat sluice]

What's the mod that you're trying to tweak? That OFPEC tag looks familiar...I guess it's one of Sabre's aircraft mods?

[woeful gull]

Flying Legends

Wait sorry, this is Secret Weapons
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2710902874&searchtext=secret+weapons

[half peak]

A very good suggestion. If I were to install an LR submunitionAmmo on the cannons that require a longer range, it seems that the problem could also be solved.

[wheat sluice]

That works too. Just set a long enough triggerTime, then adjust submunitionInitSpeed + submunitionParentSpeedCoef accordingly so that you keep the original shell's velocity or make it higher if needed.

[half peak]

alright ,thanks

[hallow verge]

nvm

[wheat sluice]

Too much to fit in a single message, so take a peek at the attached config. I omitted some stuff for testing purposes, so just readd back stuff like magazine classes for the LMGs/cannons.

TL;DR is that you tried to use flare-type ammo with a cannon-type weapon. Some ammo simulation types don't work with certain weapons (e.g. using shotSmoke with a shoulder-fired launcher weapon).
Workaround is to use a bomb with dummy primary "bomb" which drops a submunition that deploys the actual flare ammo.
https://i.imgur.com/TpEt6vP.png

[hearty sandal]

this 👆

👍

[winter rain]

PM

[woeful gull]

Perfect thank you. I never would have been able to figure all that out

[fleet adder]

configwise, is there anything that can be done for a collimator to be "flat" when aiming?
I remember that in early beta footage, there were ARCO scopes that had these flat looking models and I was wondering how does one achieve that effect.

Picrel

i have a series of collimators in my mod that I would like to config in such way, making them be less intrusive while aiming

since im stuck with the "internal tube" of the sight being visible and takes too much aperture away from the sight

[woeful gull]

Sorry I need to ask for help one more time. Here's my whole file this time as well. Everything seems to work fine, but if I reload red or green flare rounds in the dispenser and then cycle through my weapons the dispenser no longer appears. The white flares and smoke rounds are fine and all will launch from the dispenser without issue.

[wheat sluice]

Your magazine classes for red/green flares are pointing to the actual flare ammo instead of the dummy bomb:

    class 3SA_AirDep_FlareRed_5rnd: 3SA_AirDep_FlareWhite_20rnd
    {
        ammo = "3SA_AirDep_Flare_Red";    // Should be the dummy bomb not the actual flare ("3SA_AirDep_Flare_Red_Dummy")
    };
    class 3SA_AirDep_FlareGreen_5rnd: 3SA_AirDep_FlareWhite_20rnd
    {
        ammo = "3SA_AirDep_Flare_Green";    // ditto ("3SA_AirDep_Flare_Green_Dummy")
    };

[rough hatch]

how do I make my plane slow down faster on the ground? like when I'm on the ground and I drop thrust to 0, it takes a bit longer for it to come to a full stop than I'd like

[woeful gull]

Dammit! Thank you. I thought I had gone over everything for consistency, but I think I've been looking at this file for too long

[winter rain]

does anyone know why bullet projectiles change its size in distance? And its in some sights different too.. here my example what happens.. i want to have it all the time in same size like the dish of the tank is

[novel lava]

cuz bullet assumes its a tracer and 'stretches' due to speed

unfortunately your choices are to change to 'shell' simulation and lower the speed till the model is visible or make them a missile, not sure of any other work around

well apart from atttachTo a particle or something

[wheat sluice]

Can't really do much via configs. You'd need to change the pilot LOD of the scope's model to revert it back into an Arma 1/2-style 3D optic.
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Scope_3D
The best you can achieve with configs alone is to turn it into a 2D scope with a pseudo 2.5D reticle.

[winter rain]

did already a test with simulation = "shotShell"; with no luck + in cfgMagazines initSpeed = 200; still no luck, and slower it will be bad its already pretty slow

was also thinking about a particleEffect but then i got 2 problems, while particle effect (modelSpace not billboard) the model gets spawned in all different directions and also particle effects are limited or completly disappear if other particle effects are executed on the field

[crisp knot]

Is it possible to make my custom mine class be deactivatable by units which has canDeactivateMines=0;? I would like any player to be able to defuse a certain mine

[hearty sandal]

No don't think so.

[wheat sluice]

Not purely by config. But perhaps a custom user action on the mine that checks if the user has the explosiveSpecialist trait?
If the user is an engineer/demo specialist, user action remains hidden. If they don't have the trait (unit has no ability to disarm), show action and run a script that allows them to "defuse" it.

[clever creek]

Is there lines of code I can add to my config to have nvgs showing in vehicles?

[wheat sluice]

showNVGCommander = 1;
showNVGDriver = 1;
showNVGGunner = 1;
showNVGCargo[] = {1};

https://i.imgur.com/1HEaheG.png
Be aware that NVGs may clip out of the vehicle depending on how low the vehicle's interior roof is.
You may also get transparency issues if your NVGs have any alpha parts -- the RV engine really doesn't like having multiple alpha objects behind each other. If you're wearing a pair of glasses or any other facewear with transparency that go into the NVG slot, don't be surprised if it doesn't appear properly when looking at it through the vehicle's windows.

[cosmic plover]

I am pretty much brand new to arma 3 modding. I have only been able to get so far with googling and chatGPT and I feel I have hit a brick wall. I am looking for someone to help me out, I have gotten the mod semi-working but I am not sure where to go from here.

If anyone would be willing to VC and help me out I would appreciate it.

[wintry tartan]

You need to ask the question

[cosmic plover]

IVe got a zues module added in game. It pops up a window and when im on a server the module pops up for all zeus'. Ive been trying to figure out how to get it to only show for the zeus who has placed it. This is my current issue at least

[sweet pecan]

Don't use ChatGPT.

[tacit needle]

use gemini instead

[sweet pecan]

Gemini is way worse.

[tacit needle]

no

I've made a mod from scratch using it, and it has no issues

[mortal pumice]

The vibe coders are infiltrating 😱😂

[sweet pecan]

What does it do?

[tacit needle]

It makes it possible to turn any object to simple objects

if (isNil 'GMN_fnc_spawnSimpleObjects') then {
 GMN_fnc_spawnSimpleObjects = {
  params ['_data'];
  private _spawnedObjects = [];
  {
   _x params ['_class', '_path', '_pos', '_dir', '_vec', '_tex', '_scale', '_align', '_super', '_local'];
   _obj = [[_class, _path], _pos, _dir, _align, _super, _local] call BIS_fnc_createSimpleObject;
   _obj setVectorDirAndUp _vec;
   _obj setObjectScale _scale;
   { if (_x != '') then { _obj setObjectTexture [_forEachIndex, _x]; }; } forEach _tex;
   _spawnedObjects pushBack _obj;
  } forEach _data;
  _spawnedObjects
 };
};

_soData = [
['Land_CobblestoneSquare_01_32m_F', 'a3\structures_f_enoch\infrastructure\roads\cobblestonesquare_01_32m_f.p3d', [11674.415039,7965.801758,10.376165], 5.17939, [[0.0902744,0.995917,0],[0,0,1]], [], 1, false, true, true],
['Land_CobblestoneSquare_01_32m_F', 'a3\structures_f_enoch\infrastructure\roads\cobblestonesquare_01_32m_f.p3d', [11688.943359,7945.807129,10.39949], 283.286, [[-0.973234,0.229818,0],[0,0,1]], [], 1, false, true, true],
['Land_CobblestoneSquare_01_32m_F', 'a3\structures_f_enoch\infrastructure\roads\cobblestonesquare_01_32m_f.p3d', [11671.552734,7934.228027,10.375889], 5.17939, [[0.0902744,0.995917,0],[0,0,1]], [], 1, false, true, true]
];```

it the object attributes I can select super simple, align, and local. It also gets the textures

I can also save the comp in the exact area so that I can have over 30k objects no issue

[clever creek]

Where in the config does this get placed? Is it under each individual class name?

[wheat sluice]

Within the vehicle class.
e.g.

class CfgVehicles
{
    class SomeParentVehicleSuperclass;
    class MyVehicleBaseClass: SomeParentVehicleSuperclass
    {
        showNVGCommander = 1;
        showNVGDriver = 1;
        showNVGGunner = 1;
        showNVGCargo[] = {1};
    };
};

Preferably, it should be put in the base class for whatever vehicle you're trying to modify. If there's no base class for the vehicle for whatever reason, add these tokens to every single vehicle where you want NVGs to be visible.

If you're lazy, you can add them to BI's superclasses as a last resort. But only do this if you absolutely need to make your NVGs visible on every single vehicle type (planes, helicopters, tanks, etc.).

[sullen fulcrum]

I have an issue I believe is related to config. I am building a vehicle using the Arma Samples heli pack as reference. I cannot seem to make this HUD go away in testing. Is this an issue with the class, or something to ask about in another channel?

[hearty sandal]

even if you dont declare it in your config you will likely get basics for it inherited from your parent class

[sullen fulcrum]

Do you have an idea which may be the offender? Is there a list of parent classes? I have the AIO config if that is the only resource.

[hearty sandal]

these are the parent classes you should be using

you just need to define your own MFD class to empty it

if you dont want any HUD

[sullen fulcrum]

Gotcha. I didn't know what MFD was, looked it up and gave a quick speed read to the wiki page. Should be easy enough to manage, thanks.

[nimble sequoia]

class MFD {}; in your new helicopter class.

[sullen fulcrum]

So, I would just leave the variables blank in mine?

[hearty sandal]

you can blank the whole class by making it class MFD (); like apollo said

then it wont do anything

[sullen fulcrum]

Haha, I am dense, just saw that. I will start a development thread for this project later, this was one of the last couple of small issues.

[sullen fulcrum]

Worked the first time, thanks a bunch, you helped me two for two today 💯

[nimble sequoia]

I only typed out what HG said to do, as I thought it might not have been obvious how to blank the class. We're glad to help though, well done on getting it working.

[waxen cosmos]

Okay...I'm getting utterly bamboozled, it's my first time importing a model into Arma and I can't even get the entry for it to show up in 3DEN to test to see if it's working properly, this is the config I've got for it, the cfgPatches and cfgEditorCategories don't seem to have anything missed out, and I'm not getting any errors on startup or when entering 3DEN either.

Would anyone be able to see if I've missed something?

class cfgWeapons
{    
   class ACE_ItemCore;
   class CBA_MiscItem_ItemInfo;
    
   class SOR_Passport_Afghanistan : ACE_ItemCore
   {
       scope = 2;
       scopeCurator = 2;
       scopeArsenal = 2;
       ACE_isUnique = 1;
       ACE_asItem = 1;
       editorCategory = "SOR_Props";
       editorSubcategory = "SOR_Passports";
       displayName = "Passport (Afghanistan)";
       descriptionShort = "A passport issued by the government of Afghanistan";
       picture = "\SOR_Props\data\icons\passport\SOR_Icon_Passport_Afghanistan.paa";
       model = "\SOR_Props\data\models\passport\SOR_Passport_Afghanistan.p3d";
       class ItemInfo : CBA_MiscItem_ItemInfo
       {
          mass = 0.1;
       };
   };
};

[wintry fox]

That's a weapon, not an object
For a placeable object (with an item you can grab) you need to make a ground holder for it

Also scopeCurator, scopeArsenal, the two ace properties, and editor(Sub)Category are all doing nothing there and should be removed

[viral dragon]

The two ACE properties should be valid

[wintry fox]

They're both for magazines

[viral dragon]

At least unless they're already defined with the same values in ACE_ItemCore

ACE wiki says they're for CfgWeapons too

[wintry fox]

Or well, they can be used on items but don't really do anything since they're inheriting from ace's base item

[wintry fox]

Which is why I said to just remove

[waxen cosmos]

Okay, so I haven't come across anything about making a ground holder before, the only mention I've seen of it is when I'm deleting dropped items in Zeus, so how do I go about that?

[wintry fox]

Inherit from Item_Base_F in CfgVehicles and add your item in the TransportItems class

I just make a base class for the sub(category) and use a macro to make the items for convenience

[viral dragon]

They might change it somewhere else I guess, but as defined in ace_common CfgWeapons, ace_itemcore doesn't define either of those properties. It's just a copy of CBA_itemcore.
* I checked CBA and they don't define either of those properties either

[waxen cosmos]

So something like this?

class cfgVehicles
{
   class Item_Base_F;
   class SOR_Item_Passport_Afghanistan : Item_Base_F
   {
      scope = 2;
      scopeCurator = 2;
      displayName = "Passport (Afghanistan)";
      author = "160th SOR";
      editorSubcategory = "SOR_SubCat_Passports";
      class TransportItems
      {
         item_xx(SOR_Passport_Afghanistan, 1);
      };
   };
};

Would that also be the spot to put the main category so it doesn't get jumbled up with other stuff?

Disregard the last question, I misread the documentation

[chilly tulip]

typo btw: editorSubcateogry

[waxen cosmos]

Thanks xD

[chilly tulip]

Also missed the semicolon off that line.

[waxen cosmos]

Yeah just saw that in the file as you messaged, thanks for the eagle eyes 👍

[waxen cosmos]

Bright side, it now shows up in 3DEN, downside...I got an error saying it can't load the model and the reason it gave was magic...

[wintry tartan]

Tell the error message, along with your current config always do it if you're troubleshooting online

[waxen cosmos]

I don't disagree but it literally just said the word 'Magic'

[wintry tartan]

Tell the error message, literally

[waxen cosmos]

I told you. It says it can't load the model and the only thing that comes close to the reason is the word 'Magic'.

[wintry tartan]

"Error loading" usually mean your P3D is anyhow corrupted, so recheck P3D and PBO I'd say

[pale dew]

Wtf is (Magic) I haven't seen that one

[hearty sandal]

I think this would be something the Wizard known as @grand zinc might be able to shed light on

[clever creek]

How does one define the left logo from the right logo in the arsenal?

[wheat sluice]

???
Do you mean the inventory icon (left logo) and mod icon (right logo)?

[clever creek]

Yeah I actually realized that after I asked lol

[wheat sluice]

DLC defines the mod icon (this is not limited to only official use). This is a link to your custom mod entry in CfgMods, but in most cases the engine will automatically pull this for you even if you don't define a value for DLC.
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Mod.cpp/bin_File_Format
picture defines the inventory icons. This isn't auto generated, so you need to create one by yourself that is always scaled to a resolution of power of two (e.g. 512x512px, 256x256px, etc).
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/CfgWeapons_Config_Reference#Picture="[\][.pac]"

class CfgWeapons
{
    class ItemCore;
    class MyCustomItem: ItemCore
    {
        DLC = "MyModNameInCfgMods";    // points to your mod in CfgMods
        picture = "\link\to\my\moddirectory\icon_ca.paa";    // inventory icon
    };
};

[clever creek]

So can the dlc still be defined as a paa?

[wheat sluice]

Nope. Or at least AFAIK, it's not possible. Never tried, so don't quote me on that.

[clever creek]

What does it auto generate from for the mod logo?

[wheat sluice]

It retrieves the image you defined for logoSmall in CfgMods. Failing that, it uses logo instead.

[clever creek]

I dont add a cfg mods section in my configs

[wheat sluice]

Well if you don't define one, then the game will just default to displaying the generic puzzle piece icon instead.
It might not be mandatory per se, but it goes a long way to making your mod look presentable and helps with organisation. Having an Arsenal list full of generic puzzle pieces doesn't help people identify what X mod that Y asset comes from.

[wintry fox]

CfgMods hasn't worked for mods for years

[wintry fox]

logo in your mod.cpp. if you don't have one, it should be placed next to the addons folder in your mod

E.g.

mod.cpp
addons
  - addonName
    - config.cpp

Yeah its been broken since 2.02, 4 (almost 5) years ago
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Mod.cpp/bin_File_Format#CfgMods

[clever creek]

Do you have an example mod.cpp you could provide?

[wintry fox]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Mod.cpp/bin_File_Format#mod.cpp/bin

This is all I do though

author = "You";
name = "Mod Name";
description = "Description";
overview = "";
overviewPicture = "YourPrefix_logo_ca.paa";
picture = "YourPrefix_logo_ca.paa";
logo = "YourPrefix_logo_ca.paa";
logoOver = "YourPrefix_logo_ca.paa";

[wheat sluice]

Typical... 🤦‍♂️

magazineGroups 2.0.

[severe marlin]

Hey guys I released my mod
And our unit using it
The thing is when I use my mod items or units in a mission, the mission won't run in multiplayer
But when I don't use my mod items or units, the mission will run also we can wear my mod items and such
Also no problem for items like rvmat or model or classnames

They didn't showed me any errors or something

[grand zinc]

the p3d is just corrupted.

[median orchid]

What's the deal with how the attributes equipment storage defines categories for items? If I have a magazine but no weapon that actually takes it, it won't show up here anywhere. IS there a good way to force a magazine to show in one of these categories?

[chilly tulip]

oh, like ACE painkillers.

[zinc oracle]

is there a way to add a vanilla sandbox to my server config so i can use eden and zeus?

[hearty sandal]

eden no. zeus yes

[zinc oracle]

i've never set up my own server before and i have my map set as Sandbox.Altis.pbo

but it won't load up anything at all

stays on the altis loading screen

[chilly tulip]

Does the same PBO work in localhost?

[zinc oracle]

i haven't tried that

only wanted a server to mess about with 1 of my mates didn't realise how difficult it is to get to grips with

[zinc oracle]

so can i create a mission in eden then import to my dedicated server?

[hearty sandal]

Yes

[chilly tulip]

The "loading screen" means that either you specified an empty class Missions or it failed to find the specified missions.

[zinc oracle]

i've saved just a mission with a respawn and a game master and put that in server config as a mp map should that work?

[chilly tulip]

Does it work as localhost?

My recollection is that you don't even need a respawn, just a player.

[zinc oracle]

it's actually loading now but i can't press a role

[median orchid]

Sorta, ace painkillers is a funny one along with some of the other items they do since they technically have a cfgWeapon entry for them which gets instantly converted to the cfgMagazine version on event handlers

Not something I really want to be dependent on or replicate with scripts

[wintry fox]

That's the only option afaik

[lean bloom]

Is it possible in the case of a vehicle to enforce the usage of a specific optic on a specific weapon?

Say I have 4 weapons in a vehicle, and 3 of them should be using one optic P3D, but the 4th one should be forced into a different optic P3D

[hearty sandal]

all the parts need to be incorporated into single p3d but they might be possible to hide/unhide depending on selected weapon

the optic p3d is not weapon specific

[nimble sequoia]

Optics are turret specific, so if you have your 4th weapon in a different turret to the other 3, it's easy.

[hearty sandal]

too. I assumed they were all on same operator

[lean bloom]

They are all on the same operator, yes

That´s what´s causing my headache

I know in the rhs bmp you have the option to "use XY launcher" which does something similar I guess

[mortal pumice]

RHS has some non enterable separate turret seats you can only access from the initial turret seat

Not sure if it’s the same on the bmp but that’s how it works on some hmmvs

[novel lava]

yeah scripted turrets

you could - and its kinda janky but probably similar levels of jank to the scripted locked turrets

set up all the optics in the turret as per usual

sorry was looking up the scripting command as its new

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/setTurretOpticsMode

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Event_Handlers#OpticsModeChanged

if wrong optic - switch to the correct one

so technically people could switch but the eventhandler should immediately switch it back

actually not sure if that eh works on vehicles

alternative would be https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/getTurretOpticsMode

[lean bloom]

Thanks, I will take a gander

[grave steppe]

How is it going guys
Is there any way to use Hidden Selections in NVG Configurations?

[wintry fox]

Yes
Same way you do it for helmets / vests

I.e. define hiddenSelections in class itself and the ItemInfo

[real bluff]

How do you setup a config for a model to have editable text like a license plate or tail number?

[nimble sequoia]

class PlateInfos

[green verge]

Guys, when adding a vehicle to the game, does it always have to have a crew or could the vehicle be unmanned by default?

class toyota_cruiser_100: ver_cruiser100_base
{
scope = 2;
side = 0;
faction = "Millitary";
vehicleClass = "Cars";
crew = "";
displayName = "$STR_drg_vercruiser_100";
author = "VER";
hiddenSelectionsTextures[] = {"\ver_cruiser100\data\colors\black.paa","\ver_cruiser100\data\colors\black.paa","#(argb,8,8,3)color(0.603922,0.603922,0.603922,1.0,co)","\ver_cruiser100\data\glass.paa","\ver_data\data\brakes_black.paa"};
};

[wintry fox]

https://tenor.com/view/try-it-and-see-give-it-a-try-try-try-and-see-try-it-yourself-gif-24095805

[green verge]

Why make me suffer through packing and finishing the pbo for it to fail miserably (potentially)

Another question, if I add the vehicles to the civilian faction but later a OPFOR unit uses the vehicle I believe the whole vehicle effectively changes to the OPFOR side right?

[wintry fox]

Because I don't know if it works, and packing a single pbo doesn't take long with modern tools

[wintry fox]

Yeah

So long as an opfor (or whatever side) unit is in it

Should go back to empty once they disembark

[novel lava]

it does work to have a vehicle without crew but it isn't simple

an example is the taru pods

editorForceEmpty = 1; iirc is whats needed

i do believe you need to define crew etc tho but they wont spawn

[wintry fox]

Single config property sounds pretty simple

[novel lava]

it has a lot of weird baggage and limitations

like I used it for the trailer in SPEX

and iirc had to add a dummy cargo position for it to work as the FFV turrets werent enough

[novel lava]

this - btw - is what defiens where they show up in the editor

so if you have the crew be opfor it will be under what ever faction the crew is but it will be placed empty

[pliant scarab]

Hello just wanted to ask if there's a guide for me to take a look at to make ammo from certain mods compatible with one another?

[hearty sandal]

dont think a guide for something that specific exists

[pliant scarab]

dang alright

[pliant scarab]

thank you

[hearty sandal]

in what way do you want them to be compatible?

[pliant scarab]

just for the magazines (or at least just the ammo) to be compatible. like for example a K98 from the ww2 IFA3 AIO mod to be able use the same ammo as the K98 from RHSGREF

[hearty sandal]

that would be the magazines since the magazines are what go into guns

[viral dragon]

Guns don't care about ammo compatibility, it's purely based on the magazines

[hearty sandal]

👆

[viral dragon]

CBA joint magazines might already do what you want, depending on whether IFA is set up to support it

[hearty sandal]

that can be modified by changing the magazineWells

but also its not guaranteed that it looks good

as mods may have differences in magazine dimensions and placement

[viral dragon]

Though I don't know if IFA bolt-actions have some wacky scripted magazines stuff like the Spearhead ones

[hearty sandal]

so the magazine model can be way off between different mods/weapons

[viral dragon]

If they do then they may not be able to support other magazines

[hearty sandal]

that too

compatibilities can go whacky fast 😅

[pliant scarab]

oh sorry okay i got mixed up there then yes magazines

[pliant scarab]

i understand! okay will try to look around on how to do it s

[pliant scarab]

ah thats okay, tbh

[hearty sandal]

you say that now but when magazine pokes through your guns magwell you may reconsider 😅

[pliant scarab]

well well hahaha that would look funny

[hearty sandal]

but it is just a possibility. it could also be fine

[pliant scarab]

Noted on this will mess around or look for guides somehow since I'm clueless with modding. Thanks @hearty sandal and @viral dragon !

[novel lava]

it does but it doesnt have anything to do with the actual used ammo

its just exists purely for the reload animations

[viral dragon]

I know, what I meant is that if you try to feed it magazines that don't have all the partial stage variants, it might not behave properly

[novel lava]

nah doesnt matter - people have made compat classes for the various other ww2 mods over the years

doesn't cause any issues im aware of

only thing that potentially could be an issue is if it exceeds the original magazine size

[viral dragon]

Excellent, that's fine then

[toxic solar]

this is something I never quite understood but lets say I have a bunch of turrets like so

class myTurret: wateverParentTurretClass {};
class myLowStandTurret: myTurret {};
class myLowStandTurret_Opfor: myLowStandTurret {};
class myLowStandTurret_Greenfor: myLowStandTurret {};
class myMediumTurret: myTurret {};

what do I need to put in units[] in cfgPatches so that they all show up in zeus? I would think I only need to put myTurret since that would be the parent of everything and that works been working for some time but recently it hasnt and tje fix I know is to list all 5 of those classes in units[] which at times is a bit annoying.

[hearty sandal]

Is my turret a turret on tank or a static emplacement?

[toxic solar]

static emplacement

[hearty sandal]

Then you need to list all

[toxic solar]

what is the tank part ur refering to tho?

what happens if its a turret on a tank

I wonder then why its been working showing all in the past when I just had one, maybe mikeros fills it out on packing?

[hearty sandal]

Then you list the tank

[toxic solar]

oh okay cool

[hearty sandal]

Any vehicle you want to show in there needs to be listed

And yes pbo project does some auto filling if I remember right

[toxic solar]

huh I wonder why it stopped working now 🤔

[lean bloom]

Is there any "simple" (that is, no scripting included) way in which I could have a self-propelled mortar´s turret´s interior expend stored ammunition in a way where after firing one stored round gets hidden and an expended casing gets unhidden remain consistent while having multiple reloadable magazines?

This would be quite simple to achieve via either the ammo or revolving sources if I only had a single magazine with a fixed ammo count, but if I have multiple magazines of different types it means when the player fires off a few rounds from one and then reloads a different, full magazine, the animations would stop working properly because both ammo and revolving sources would "reset" their values after the reload.

So I am left wondering what solution could I use that would not have me dabble with scripting too much.
I assume I would have to create some sort of a variable bound to the fireEH that would keep count of how many total rounds have been expended thus far and then somehow use that to animate the stuff, but I don´t want to use scripting!

[hearty sandal]

scripting it is

[hearty sandal]

what you are doing is unfortunately way out of the scope of the engines own animation sources

and way more complex than anything vanilla

you will likely need to compromise somewhere in the design

its very cool

but also very complex for the engine 😅

[lean bloom]

It is what it is :/

Should be doable though

[nimble sequoia]

We do it in SOG:PF with scripting, no other way.
If you're interested, it's in the function vn_fnc_vehicle_spareAmmoUpdate.

[median fable]

In CfgLights, what do the ambient and diffuse attributes represent when ELI5?

[lean bloom]

I see, cheers, I will take a gander

[viral dragon]

The basic light colour is the light that's directly emitted, including the colour of the flare when a flare is visible, and illuminates only surfaces that are facing the light. The ambient colour is the indirect light that appears around the source and can illuminate surfaces that aren't facing it. You can test the difference between those two on a scripted light source, using setLightColor and setLightAmbient.
Dunno what diffuse does and there's no scripted equivalent, so it might not even do anything.

[median fable]

Thank you, that helps a bit. The commands will definitely be helpful in seeing how the game behaves with certain values 🙂

Yup, looked up both of those commands on the wiki and got what I wanted to achieve. Time to recreate and test. Much appreciated o7

[pastel tusk]

Heyo, quick question

I am working on my own faction to be accessible in Zeus and Eden. Is there a way to randomise the uniform / headgear that a unit has everytime it is spawned in?

[hallow quarry]

hello which variable affects a radar signature?

I want to make backpack drones have a smidge bigger radar signature
Is it "radarTargetSize"

[wheat sluice]

Yep.
radarTargetSize -> active/passive radars
irTargetSize -> infrared sensors
visualTargetSize vs. visual sensors

Default value is 1.0 (no change). Values < 1.0 make the unit harder to detect (cuts the sensor's detection range) and >1.0 amplifies the range at which sensors can detect it.

[wheat sluice]

For headgear and facewear, you can use BI's default randomisation functions via an EventHandler in the soldier's base class:
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Characters_And_Gear_Encoding_Guide#Headgear_and_Facewear_Randomisation
For uniforms and vests, you'll need to create your own randomisation script since the vanilla one doesn't support anything else other than headgear/facewear. You can search for one on the Workshop or base your own script off BI's scripts (you can find it under \a3\functions_f\inventory\fn_unitheadgear.sqf).

[pastel tusk]

Will checkout, thanks a lot!

[pastel tusk]

  class AET_F_mapleSyrup_I_VLF_T_55A: UK3CB_NAP_O_T55
  {
    faction="AET_F_mapleSyrup_I_VLF_nomas";
    side=2;
    displayName="T 55A";
    hiddenSelectionsTextures[]={"uk3cb_factions\addons\uk3cb_factions_vehicles\armour\uk3cb_factions_vehicles_t-series\t55\data\t55_body_fdf_co.paa","uk3cb_factions\addons\uk3cb_factions_vehicles\armour\uk3cb_factions_vehicles_t-series\t55\data\t55_tower_fdf_co.paa"};
    crew="AET_F_mapleSyrup_I_VLF_Crewman";
    typicalCargo[]={"AET_F_mapleSyrup_I_VLF_Crewman"};

  };

Quick question, when I implement the vehicle above and set its hidden textures, it keeps using a different set of textures, am I doing something wrong? is there a way to select one of the predefined textures that can be accessed in the garage to set it that way too?

[nimble sequoia]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Vehicle_Customisation
textureList[] = {"NAPA", 1};
class TextureSources {...}

[pastel tusk]

Oh this works, even without class TextureSources {...} if the vehicle already has the texture I need defined

Thanks a lot!

[pastel tusk]

  class AET_F_mapleSyrup_I_VLF_KamAZ_5350: rhs_kamaz5350_msv
  {
    faction="AET_F_mapleSyrup_I_VLF_nomas";
    side=2;
    displayName="KamAZ 5350";
    hiddenSelectionsTextures[]={"rhsafrf\addons\rhs_kamaz\data\kamaz5350_cabin_co.paa","rhsafrf\addons\rhs_kamaz\data\kamaz5350_cargo_co.paa","rhsafrf\addons\rhs_kamaz\data\kamaz5350_base_co.paa","rhsafrf\addons\rhs_kamaz\data\bed\rhs_kamaz_bed_co.paa","rhsafrf\addons\rhs_kamaz\data\bed\rhs_kamaz_cover_co.paa","rhsafrf\addons\rhs_decals\data\numbers\default\4_ca.paa","rhsafrf\addons\rhs_decals\data\numbers\default\6_ca.paa","rhsafrf\addons\rhs_decals\data\numbers\default\7_ca.paa","rhsafrf\addons\rhs_decals\data\numbers\default\4_ca.paa","",""};
    crew="AET_F_mapleSyrup_I_VLF_Crewman_Light";
    typicalCargo[]={"AET_F_mapleSyrup_I_VLF_Crewman_Light"};
    textureList[]={"AET_F_mapleSyrup_I_VLF_KamAZ_5350_Texture", 1};
    class textureSources
    {
        // This texture source will be available for every defined factions
        class AET_F_mapleSyrup_I_VLF_KamAZ_5350_Texture
        {
            // Display name of the texture
            displayName = "Olive (No Symbol)";
            // Author of the texture
            author = "RHS";
            // Paths to the texture files, in the same order as the hidden selections
            textures[] = {"rhsafrf\addons\rhs_kamaz\data\kamaz5350_cabin_co.paa","rhsafrf\addons\rhs_kamaz\data\kamaz5350_cargo_co.paa","rhsafrf\addons\rhs_kamaz\data\kamaz5350_base_co.paa","rhsafrf\addons\rhs_kamaz\data\bed\rhs_kamaz_bed_co.paa","rhsafrf\addons\rhs_kamaz\data\bed\rhs_kamaz_cover_co.paa","rhsafrf\addons\rhs_decals\data\numbers\default\4_ca.paa","rhsafrf\addons\rhs_decals\data\numbers\default\6_ca.paa","rhsafrf\addons\rhs_decals\data\numbers\default\7_ca.paa","rhsafrf\addons\rhs_decals\data\numbers\default\4_ca.paa","",""};
            // This source should be available for the following factions
            factions[] = {};
        };
    };
  };

[pastel tusk]

Sorry to bother,
I tried to do it for a different vehicle like the one above and it does not seem to work, where this time I hadd to define my own texture source.

Any idea of what I might've done wrong from a quick look?

[pastel tusk]

Maybe it's something RHS does after a vehicle is spawned or something?

[pastel tusk]

Yea so if I add:

    class EventHandlers
    {
        init = "";
    };

to the end, the texture is exactly as I want it to be, hope that doesn't end up fucking anything up...

[pastel tusk]

Is there a way to also handle components through the config so it is not randomized or default?

I thought it is "animationList" from reading the wiki but I can't seem to get it to work

[wintry fox]

animationList does control those
It's a random chance for if a given animation is enabled

animationList[] = {"anim1", 0 "anim2", 1}; // anim1 will always be disabled, anim2 will always be enabled

Your vehicle will need a call to BIS_fnc_initVehicle(?) in its EventHandlers for it to work though. It's not an engine feature, it's scripted

[pastel tusk]

I had this:

    animationList[]=
    {
        "cover_end_hide", 1
    };

The only way I could get it to work was doing this:

    class EventHandlers
    {
        init = "(_this select 0) animateDoor ['cover_end_hide',1,true];";
    };

But I feel like the eventhandler way is the wrong way

From what I am reading above in your message though it seems I am wrong and I do have to do it via script?

Man configs in Arma 3 gonna make my head twist ;-;

[chilly tulip]

well, usually you have that initVehicle call in init or postInit and that sorts it out.

Horrible but normal.

[pastel tusk]

Soooooo the way I am doing it is not bad? I guess just replace the animateDoor command and its entire line with the BIS_fnc_initVehicle?

[chilly tulip]

The parent vehicle probably already has it, if you don't remove it.

But otherwise yeah.

[pastel tusk]

If it does then it ain't working chief xD

Alright, I'll try this:

["Door_LF",0,"Door_RF",0,"Hatch",0,"spare_hide",0,"bench_hide",0,"bench_l1_fold",0,"bench_l2_fold",0,"bench_r1_fold",0,"bench_r2_fold",0,"cover_hide",0,"back_door",0,"cover_end_hide",1,"side_walls_hide",0,"ClanLogo_Hide",0]
] call BIS_fnc_initVehicle;

which is what I got from the garage.

[chilly tulip]

The stock EH is this:
init = "if (local (_this select 0)) then {[(_this select 0), """", [], false] call bis_fnc_initVehicle;};"

Should work if you have animationList defined correctly.

initVehicle is global effect so you should definitely have the local check either way.

[pastel tusk]

    class EventHandlers
    {
        init = "if (local (_this select 0)) then {[(_this select 0), """", [""Door_LF"",0,""Door_RF"",0,""Hatch"",0,""spare_hide"",0,""bench_hide"",0,""bench_l1_fold"",0,""bench_l2_fold"",0,""bench_r1_fold"",0,""bench_r2_fold"",0,""cover_hide"",0,""back_door"",0,""cover_end_hide"",1,""side_walls_hide"",0,""ClanLogo_Hide"",0], false] call bis_fnc_initVehicle;};";
    };

Ey

Works

Thank you all

[waxen cosmos]

For what it's worth you can use single quotes ' instead of "" for strings within strings

[wintry fox]

You also don't need to specify the values, I'd assume the default just reads from animationList

Also should probably just do class EventHandlers: DefaultEventHandlers {}; which includes initVehicle iirc

It's just defined in config root:

class DefaultEventHandlers;
class CfgVehicles {
    class YourVehicle: ... {
        class EventHandlers: DefaultEventHandlers {};
    };
};

[median fable]

Well, circling back to my question about the CfgLights config entries from 2 days ago.
I'm trying to replicate JCA Hand Flares' effect to add several variants of the flares. My current problem is that my white hand flares are bright enough to be as useful as the green/red ones from the original mod, but getting up close it's hard to see the model of the flare object itself due to how bright it is.

class AET_JCA_HandFlare_Light_White: JCA_HandFlare_Light_Base
{
    color[] = {0.3, 0.3, 0.3};
    diffuse[] = {0.25, 0.25, 0.25};
    ambient[] = {0,3, 0,3, 0,3};
};

And I'm quite honestly not sure how I can make it better on the eyes. I tried fiddling with the A part of the property values with no luck.

For comparison, these are the values the original mod uses for the red one:

    color[]={1,0.25,0};
    diffuse[]={0.80000001,0.34999999,0.25};
    ambient[]={2,0.30000001,0};

What am I misunderstanding/missing here?

Is that just because of the white color that I'm struggling with this? Because it doesn't really look like it...

[hearty sandal]

Do you inherit everything from original class and just change color?

[median fable]

Correct, the base class is just class JCA_HandFlare_Light_Base; right above mine

If it helps at all, here is the link to my files for the addon: https://github.com/Esmeray6/AET_AUX/tree/main/addons/jca_flares_additions

[hearty sandal]

I would guess this is just how white behaves in this case. You could try darker grey color for example. If you take the yellow image and copy the red color channel to all others it turns bright white as well.

[median fable]

Hmm. How would I do gray? I thought keeping the color values lower from 1,1,1 would mean darker but that didn't seem to be the case. Reducing the alpha?

[hearty sandal]

then you may need to play with the other light class properties

[median fable]

Argh

Thanks for the sanity check. Time for a break and then back to the nightmare of modding

[proper cedar]

I'm not entirely sure if this is the right place but i've been working on this weapon edit for awhile now and wanted to change the fire mods to sound different then the original model, problem being everytime i try to make my own firemodes they just straight up disappear and give me a small error. Seemingly no entry for the config and then a secondary on a random launcher i havent even looked at. I tried looking through the RPT but tbh i'm not even sure what im looking at or how it'd be fixed

For context for those curious this is the weapons config

    {
        class EventHandlers
        {
            fired = "if (isPlayer (_this select 0)) then {_this spawn WBK_FIG_WeaponFiredHandler_RedParticles;};";
        };
        author = "Kurp";
        baseWeapon = "hel_Lasgun_Accatran_Rifle_BlK";
        displayName = "Hel Pattern Accatran MKIV Lasgun";
        hiddenSelections[] = {"camo1","camo2"};
        hiddenSelectionsTextures[] = {"\Accatran\accatran\HELHEIM.paa","\Accatran\accatran\HELHEIM.paa"};
        magazines[] = {"Helheim_Lasgun_Rifle_B_Accatran_75_Battery","Helheim_Lasgun_Rifle_B_Accatran_35_Battery"};
        changeFiremodeSound[] = {"FIG_Imperial_Guard\FIG_Weapons\sounds\lasgun_mode_switch.ogg",0.9,1,10};
        drySound[] = {"FIG_Imperial_Guard\FIG_Weapons\sounds\lasgun_mag_empty.ogg",1.5,1,10};
        reloadMagazineSound[] = {"FIG_Imperial_Guard\FIG_Weapons\sounds\M36_Reload.ogg",2.9,1,30};
        reloadSound[] = {"FIG_Imperial_Guard\FIG_Weapons\sounds\M36_Reload.ogg",2.9,1,30};
        class Single: Mode_SemiAuto
        {
            reloadTime = 0.12;
            recoil = "recoil_burst_pdw";
            recoilProne = "recoil_single_prone_mx";
            dispersion = 0.00087;
            minRange = 2;
            minRangeProbab = 0.5;
            midRange = 200;
            midRangeProbab = 0.7;
            maxRange = 400;
            maxRangeProbab = 0.3;
            class BaseSoundModeType;
            class StandardSound: BaseSoundModeType
            {
                soundSetShot[] = {"ML700_Lasgun_Shot_SoundSet","ML700_Lasgun_Tail_Base_SoundSet"};
            };
            class SilencedSound: BaseSoundModeType
            {
                soundSetShot[] = {"ML700_Lasgun_D_Shot_SoundSet","ML700_Lasgun_D_Tail_Base_SoundSet"};
            };
        };
        class FullAuto: Mode_FullAuto
        {
            sounds[] = {"StandardSound"};
            reloadTime = 0.07;
            dispersion = 0.00087;
            recoil = "recoil_burst_pdw";
            recoilProne = "assaultRifleBase";
            minRange = 0;
            minRangeProbab = 0.9;
            midRange = 15;
            midRangeProbab = 0.7;
            maxRange = 30;
            maxRangeProbab = 0.1;
            aiRateOfFire = 1e-06;
            class BaseSoundModeType;
            class StandardSound: BaseSoundModeType
            {
                soundSetShot[] = {"ML700_Lasgun_Shot_SoundSet","ML700_Lasgun_Tail_Base_SoundSet"};
            };
            class SilencedSound: BaseSoundModeType
            {
                soundSetShot[] = {"ML700_Lasgun_D_Shot_SoundSet","ML700_Lasgun_D_Tail_Base_SoundSet"};
            };
        };
    };
};```

[hearty sandal]

error likely means you build your config wrong way and break some inheritance setup or parent class from before

In these situations I usually advice simplifying to starting blocks so your config base works

then add new class and inheritance etc and just change displayname of a thing so you can easily see if the new item works

and only once it works you start adding the major changes

[proper cedar]

Yeah gotcha, i'll work it from the ground up and see if i can notice anything that changes from it

[hearty sandal]

also whats the exact error you get?

and how do you pack the pbo?

[proper cedar]

I use PBO manager, right click pack into PBO

I do this mainly because my arma tools wouldnt open addon builder anymore

[hearty sandal]

ah

I would really recommend fixing your tools and setting up stuff so you can use better tools like pboProject

although it would not catch bad class structure order but only syntax issues

even addonbuilder would be better than pbomanager

[proper cedar]

I would like that but wherever i look doesnt have too much information on the fix i need for it, Perhaps a repair or uninstall and reinstall could work.

What usually happens when i open addon builder is the black window will open then close but regardless

I appreciate the help tho i'll give that stuff a look and build it up from simpler to more complicated to see where the issue lies

[proper cedar]

you were correct, had my Mode_FullAuto and such under CfgWeapons not before like most other examples which when switched to there instantly fixed it

[undone dome]

might be more fitting to put this here not sure
#arma3_editor message

[pastel tusk]

Will take a look at that thanks!

[pastel tusk]

Honestly not sure why I went with "", I think maybe consistency since it is used elsewhere

  class AET_F_mapleSyrup_I_VLF_Medic: I_E_Medic_F
  {
    faction="AET_F_mapleSyrup_I_VLF_nomas";
    side=2;
    displayName="Medic";
    uniformClass="UK3CB_CHD_W_B_U_CombatSmock_02";
    weapons[]={"AET_F_mapleSyrup_I_VLF_UK3CB_RK62","AET_F_mapleSyrup_I_VLF_rhs_weap_makarov_pm","Put","Throw"};
    respawnWeapons[]={"AET_F_mapleSyrup_I_VLF_UK3CB_RK62","AET_F_mapleSyrup_I_VLF_rhs_weap_makarov_pm","Put","Throw"};
    items[]={"FirstAidKit","Medikit"};
    magazines[]={"UK3CB_RK62_30Rnd_Magazine","UK3CB_RK62_30Rnd_Magazine","UK3CB_RK62_30Rnd_Magazine","UK3CB_RK62_30Rnd_Magazine","UK3CB_RK62_30Rnd_Magazine","UK3CB_RK62_30Rnd_Magazine","rhs_mag_rgd5","rhs_mag_rgd5","rhs_mag_rdg2_white","rhs_mag_rdg2_white","rhs_mag_9x18_8_57N181S"};
    respawnMagazines[]={"UK3CB_RK62_30Rnd_Magazine","UK3CB_RK62_30Rnd_Magazine","UK3CB_RK62_30Rnd_Magazine","UK3CB_RK62_30Rnd_Magazine","UK3CB_RK62_30Rnd_Magazine","UK3CB_RK62_30Rnd_Magazine","rhs_mag_rgd5","rhs_mag_rgd5","rhs_mag_rdg2_white","rhs_mag_rdg2_white","rhs_mag_9x18_8_57N181S"};
    respawnItems[]={"FirstAidKit","Medikit"};
    linkedItems[]={"ItemMap","ItemCompass","ItemWatch","TFAR_anprc154","rhsgref_hat_M1951","rhs_6sh117_rifleman","rhs_scarf"};
    respawnLinkedItems[]={"ItemMap","ItemCompass","ItemWatch","TFAR_anprc154","rhsgref_hat_M1951","rhs_6sh117_rifleman","rhs_scarf"};
    backpack="UK3CB_PLM_B_B_Sidor_RIF_01";
  };

Quick question, is there a way to specift which items / magazines go into the backpack and which go into the vest for a unit through the config?

[wintry fox]

items / magazines will only ever go into the uniform / vest.

If something doesn't fit in there, an error is logged. If you want to put things in a backpack you need to make a separate backpack class and add things in its TransportItems/Magazines classes

[pastel tusk]

Alright done that, don't assume there is a way to specifically say "this in vsst and this in uniform"

[wintry fox]

No

[pastel tusk]

Alrighty, thank you

[timid osprey]

Is there a way to increase the rotor wash from helicopters?

[undone dome]

If anyone knows how to solve issues with the alive orbat creator please lmk, vehicles work troops dont

[wintry fox]

https://dontasktoask.com/

[undone dome]

[wintry fox]

No one can magically know what your issue is, you'd need to send your config

[undone dome]

already solved but ill keep it in mind if anything else pops up

[hearty sandal]

if you describe the issue and solution it can help someone else with the same problem.

[undone dome]

not really, it was my fault entirely, i created a faction using another one of my factions which i deleted

and it couldnt read the classes even though it was using seperate assets

so i just reimplemented the old faction

[hearty sandal]

fun times in the configLand 😄

[undone dome]

and it worked

yup

[rough hatch]

is there a way to calculate the scene to hud transforms in a MFD config or is it just guesswork?

like the pos0 and pos10 values

[woeful gull]

Need some help with turrets. My unit has decided to use the Norther Fronts T-35/85 in our current campaign, but It looks like the sights are broken.

It looks like the sight is made of two layers with one sliding up and down when the gun elevation is changed, but the gun elevation in in the NF T-34 can't be adjusted. I've been trying to compare it to the IFAO T-34/85 which does have an adjustable gun/sight, but I can't identify the relevant values.

elevationMode seemed like the value to check going by the config reference, but neither tank has it. I'm now thinking it's something to do with animationSources?

[haughty forge]

Would anyone be able to explain how to solve this error that i get when I pack my pbo with addon builder: Build failed. Result code=1
CfgConvert task failed
File P:\Arma Modding\D_Sqn_Selection_Gear\config.cpp, line 585: /CfgWeapons/
Watchcap.ItemInfo: Undefined base class 'Headgearitem'
Config :some input after EndOfFile.
Error reading config file 'P:\Arma Modding\D_Sqn_Selection_Gear\config.cpp'
Class destroyed with lock count 1

[wintry fox]

Error tells you what is wrong, you're trying to inherit from a class called HeadgearItem but you don't define/reference it in your config

[haughty forge]

thanks

[bitter niche]

Is it possible to detect startup parameters in config (or in script)? espescially -skipIntro and -world=empty

[hearty sandal]

dont think so

[bitter niche]

How is -skipIntro handled than? In engine?

I thought main menu detecting if it should play cutscenes was a script somewhere, rather than engine thing

[wintry fox]

Engine

[gusty scarab]

Any chance anyone has run into this problem before?

Applying collective to a modded helicopter/drone won't raise off the ground at all

Nor does it rotate when told to

[sweet pecan]

Which flight model are you using?

[gusty scarab]

Standard

It's not moving at all

[sweet pecan]

And vanilla helicopters work?

[gusty scarab]

I inherited the AR-2 darter config, if that makes any difference

[gusty scarab]

Indeed they do

I'm going to try something with the model properties, just in case

Then we'll see if it is config related

Nope, still does not move

[gusty scarab]

Anyone?

[chilly tulip]

What did you change from the Darter? The entire model?

[gusty scarab]

Yep, and now the it's just jittering around when I apply collective

Can't even pitch or roll

Hence why I'm asking here

[chilly tulip]

yeah you probably want #arma3_model there?

[gusty scarab]

I figured it was a config problem due to the controls not responding at all

[chilly tulip]

The flight parameters in config are largely unitless, IIRC.

Like you can swap them between planes and it doesn't make much difference.

[sweet pecan]

Yeah, for planes, I think they're all just unitless coefficients.
But for helicopters and drones? I don't think so. I have no idea what defines their performance.

[chilly tulip]

Huh, only heli specific page I can find is some XML stuff: https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Helicopter_Flight_Model_Config_(XML)

[gusty scarab]

Which in this case isn't useful at all

It's sad

[chilly tulip]

I have no idea. I can't even parse "These configuration files are given to the constructor of the GenHeli600 class."

[sweet pecan]

And that's the cursed (advanced) flight model.

[supple radish]

Hi guys, i was trying to modify my mod config faction, i disable some vehicles and then save and exit the file don't save. How can i fix it?

[molten musk]

So you have the content of the mod?
If you modify unpacked files and save? It doesn't save ?
And after saving pack your mod again.

What program do you use for packing?

Ps. Don't cross-post the same question to other channels.

[supple radish]

Sorry mate, it's a config for us faction,if i disable a vehicle it's says disabled and if i save and exit and reopen the project it's like before the changes

And if i override the config mod from the original i can disable only one category, if i disable a heli i can't disable a car and vice-versa

[hearty sandal]

Is this for Arma3?

[bitter niche]

How do I make sure a addon1 loads after addon2, but does not require it?

[hearty sandal]

Required addons is for that

[bitter niche]

But it isnt required, like without the addon2, addon1 will still work fine, but if addon2 is loaded than addon1 needs to be after it

If I do requiredAddons it will throw an error as well

[supple radish]

Arma reforger

[hearty sandal]

Then you want #enfusion_configuration

[sweet pecan]

I think you'd need to make a separate config with the skip when mission addons or whatever it's called.

[chilly tulip]

You can't do this without __has_include hacks. There is an open request in the feedback tracker for a better feature.

[hearty sandal]

cant you just make separate config mod to be run with different setups?

[chilly tulip]

Hmm, can't find it in open tasks on the feedback tracker. Maybe it was already added. I can't figure out how to see closed tasks.

Ah, missed it: https://feedback.bistudio.com/T195122

[gusty scarab]

Anyone have any ideas?

[gusty scarab]

I figured it out:

I increased the mass to 1 instead of .1 in the model

Now it is too responsive 😂

[digital dagger]

Guys I’m new to this discord where do I go if I don’t know how to enter some servers that are modded with the mod I have?

[waxen cosmos]

I'd suggest #arma3_troubleshooting or #arma3_questions

[digital dagger]

Ok thanks

[hearty sandal]

You can only join servers with the mods a server uses. You can't add extra

[bitter niche]

Not really, In one mod I modify an existing class that is used, but also other used UI elements extend it (and inherit the onbuttonclick) so I have to fix em.

class RscStandardDisplay;
class RscDisplayMain: RscStandardDisplay {
    class Controls {
        class TitleSingleplayer: RscButtonMenu {
            onbuttonclick = "ctrlactivate ((findDisplay 0) displayCtrl 142);";
        };
        class TitleTutorials: TitleSingleplayer {
            onbuttonclick = "";
        };
        class TitleOptions: TitleSingleplayer {
            onbuttonclick = "";
        };
        class TitleMultiplayer: TitleSingleplayer {
            onbuttonclick = "";
        };
    };
};

But in another mod I want to set actions for some of the buttons like

class RscStandardDisplay;
class RscDisplayMain: RscStandardDisplay {
    class Controls {
        class TitleSingleplayer;
        class TitleMultiplayer: TitleSingleplayer {
            onbuttonclick = "connectToServer ['secret.ip', secret.port, '']";
        };
    };
};

If this second mod doesnt load after the first one, Im assuming it would break and the onbuttonclick might end up as ""

On the other hand, if the first mod is not loaded at all, everything from the second mod would work fine

[lean bloom]

Could someone please explain to me how am I supposed to read this?

trigger = "direction * (phase factor [0.01,0.02])";

What numerical value does this actually refer to?

I just want "trigger this sound when source value is X", that´s it

[lean bloom]

Wait, do all animationSourceSounds get attenuated inside vehicles?

How are you supposed to use them with vehicle gunners then? You can barely hear anything really

[next hemlock]

How do I change a faction side for a warlords mission?
what config files do I have to change?

[sweet pecan]

What are you specifically trying to do?

[next hemlock]

I'm trying to change the AAF from both of these mods to OPFOR
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1298282761
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1753176082

to use In a warlords scenario I'm making

[sweet pecan]

Why can't you use them as they are?

[next hemlock]

Warlords only works with OPFOR and BLUFOR, no?

The scenario Is FIA against AAF

one of the factions needs to be opfor

[sweet pecan]

Have you tried setting the factions without changing which side they belong to by default?

[next hemlock]

I did, for some reason NATO soldiers spawn on the FIA side, and CSAT on the AAF side.

but I might be doing something stupid because I don't really know how warlords code works

[sweet pecan]

What are those sides? Say the faction (e.g. AAF) and the side (e.g. INDFOR/Green) that their spawning for.

[next hemlock]

You mean the faction default sides?
The FIA Is BLUFOR and the AAF Is INDFOR

[sweet pecan]

No
Who which factions are spawning and on which sides?

[next hemlock]

NATO soldiers are spawning on blufor side and CSAT on opfor side

[sweet pecan]

Are they the ones that are being spawned in by the AI players or the sector defenders?

[next hemlock]

I think they are being spawned by AI players, because when I disabled them them they stopped spawning

[sweet pecan]

Those you can easily change separatly. What about the defenders (what you set)?

[next hemlock]

The sector defenders are spawning correctly

[sweet pecan]

Now, you need to set up the asset list in the description.ext.

[next hemlock]

Ok

Can I remove the INDEP defenders from the default sectors?

I tried to do this, but It gave me error messages

[sweet pecan]

I don't know. I know you can set all of the sectors to already be owned.

[next hemlock]

that would be a little unbalanced for my scenario

And could I make the units spawn on the ground, and not paradropping?

[sweet pecan]

You might be able to modify the function. But this has nothing to do with #arma3_config, so lets move to #arma3_scenario or something.

[next hemlock]

ok, I'll ask there

thanks

[next hemlock]

@sweet pecan So, something pretty weird happened when I was testing the scenario.
For some reason, on the OPFOR side when the AI players spawn requested soldiers on their squads, they start shooting each other, even though they are on the same squad and they are all OPFOR.
This does not happen on the BLUFOR side.

It's kind of funny to watch, but It breaks the scenario.

[chilly tulip]

That's normal behaviour if the squad doesn't match the unit side.

If you want to do that then the workaround is to joinSilent them into the group after creation.

[next hemlock]

How do I do that?

[chilly tulip]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/joinSilent

[next hemlock]

ok, where do I type this stuff

[chilly tulip]

Depends how your mission works. I don't know anything about it.

[dusky horizon]

color

[robust crag]

how does one upload a mod to steamworkshop

[wintry tartan]

Through Publisher from Arma 3 Tools

[hearty sandal]

??

[robust crag]

where do i find that

[wintry tartan]

In Arma 3 Tools

[next hemlock]

just search arma 3 tools in your steam library

[opal comet]

Anyone familiar with the ace extended arsenal .hpp etc? im having trouble with it

[wintry tartan]

https://dontasktoask.com

[lean bloom]

Would it be possible for the passenger of a vehicle to spawn a controllable UAV above the vehicle flying on a certain vector in relation to the vehicle's current direction?

[median orchid]

I don't see why not, would need some sqf for it - we have something similar in our drone mod

[wintry fox]

You'd need to show what your config looks like now, and what issues you're having
You can look at their github though, they have examples for how to do it

[opal comet]

I've looked at their github i just cant find out how to install the pbo tool they mention, and i've checked its page i just may be missing something but i cant find it

[wintry fox]

I've just always done it by hand

[opal comet]

Can you show me a base config i can do it by then or? cause mine works but it doesnt do what i want and i'd rather have something that works

[wintry tartan]

You'd need to show what your config looks like now, and what issues you're having
Please do, then

[opal comet]

I cant send the .hpp or put it in here as its too long

I'll send it in two

{
    class CfgWeapons
    {
        // =====================
        // UKLC Standard Vests
        // =====================
        class UKLC_standard_vests
        {
            label = "UKLC Standard Vests";
            author = "UKLC Dev Team";
            options[] = {"Camo"};

            class Camo
            {
                alwaysSelectable = 1;
                label = "Camo";
                values[] = {"Black","MTP","RG","Tan","Winter"};

                class Black   { label = "Black"; };
                class MTP     { label = "Multi Terrain"; };
                class RG      { label = "Ranger Green"; };
                class Tan     { label = "Tan"; };
                class Winter  { label = "Winter"; };
            };
        };

        // =====================
        // UKLC Standard Helmets / Berets
        // =====================
        class UKLC_standard_helmets
        {
            label = "UKLC Standard Helmets / Berets";
            author = "UKLC Dev Team";
            options[] = {"Camo","Beret"};

            class Camo
            {
                alwaysSelectable = 1;
                label = "Camo";
                values[] = {"Black","MTP","RG","Tan","Winter","MTPA"};

                class Black   { label = "Black"; };
                class MTP     { label = "Multi Terrain"; };
                class RG      { label = "Ranger Green"; };
                class Tan     { label = "Tan"; };
                class Winter  { label = "Winter"; };
                class MTPA    { label = "MTP Alt"; };
            };

            class Beret
            {
                alwaysSelectable = 1;
                label = "Beret";
                values[] = {"No","Yes"};

                class No  { label = "No"; };
                class Yes { label = "Yes"; };
            };
        };

        // =====================
        // UKLC Custom Vests (Freyja / SRR)
        // =====================
        class UKLC_custom_vests
        {
            label = "UKLC Custom Vests";
            author = "UKLC Dev Team";
            options[] = {"Camo","Variant"};

            class Camo
            {
                alwaysSelectable = 1;
                label = "Camo";
                values[] = {"Black","MTP","RG","Tan","Winter"};

                class Black   { label = "Black"; };
                class MTP     { label = "Multi Terrain"; };
                class RG      { label = "Ranger Green"; };
                class Tan     { label = "Tan"; };
                class Winter  { label = "Winter"; };
            };

            class Variant
            {
                alwaysSelectable = 1;
                label = "Variant";
                values[] = {"Fey"};

                class Fey { label = "Fey"; };
            };
        };

        // =====================
        // UKLC Custom Helmets
        // =====================
        class UKLC_custom_helmets
        {
            label = "UKLC Custom Helmets / Berets";
            author = "UKLC Dev Team";
            options[] = {"Camo","Variant","Beret"};

            class Camo```

                alwaysSelectable = 1;
                label = "Camo";
                values[] = {"Black","MTP","RG","Tan","Winter"};

                class Black   { label = "Black"; };
                class MTP     { label = "Multi Terrain"; };
                class RG      { label = "Ranger Green"; };
                class Tan     { label = "Tan"; };
                class Winter  { label = "Winter"; };
            };

            class Variant
            {
                alwaysSelectable = 1;
                label = "Variant";
                values[] = {"Fey"};

                class Fey { label = "Fey"; };
            };

            class Beret
            {
                alwaysSelectable = 1;
                label = "Beret";
                values[] = {"No","Yes"};

                class No  { label = "No"; };
                class Yes { label = "Yes"; };
            };
        };

        // =====================
        // SAS / SRR Vests
        // =====================
        class SAS_vests
        {
            label = "SAS Vests / SRR Vests";
            author = "UKLC Dev Team";
            options[] = {"Camo"};

            class Camo
            {
                alwaysSelectable = 1;
                label = "Camo";
                values[] = {"CB","OD","MC","Black","MTP","RG","Tan","Winter"};

                class CB     { label = "Coyote Brown"; };
                class OD     { label = "Olive Drab"; };
                class MC     { label = "MultiCam"; };
                class Black  { label = "Black (SRR)"; };
                class MTP    { label = "MTP (SRR)"; };
                class RG     { label = "Ranger Green (SRR)"; };
                class Tan    { label = "Tan (SRR)"; };
                class Winter { label = "Winter (SRR)"; };
            };
        };

        // =====================
        // SAS Helmets / Berets
        // =====================
        class SAS_helmets
        {
            label = "SAS Helmets / Berets";
            author = "UKLC Dev Team";
            options[] = {"Camo","Beret"};

            class Camo
            {
                alwaysSelectable = 1;
                label = "Camo";
                values[] = {"CB","OD","MC"};

                class CB { label = "Coyote Brown"; };
                class OD { label = "Olive Drab"; };
                class MC { label = "MultiCam"; };
            };

            class Beret
            {
                alwaysSelectable = 1;
                label = "Beret";
                values[] = {"No","Yes"};

                class No  { label = "No"; };
                class Yes { label = "Yes"; };
            };
        };

        // =====================
        // Osprey Vests (HiVis)
        // =====================
        class UKLC_osprey_vests
        {
            label = "UKLC Osprey Vests";
            author = "UKLC Dev Team";
            options[] = {};
        };
    };
}; ```

The problem is, that no matter what i do it just wont show up in the arsenal, the variant shows up but not options for it etc, and doesnt merge the items into one it just only puts the config onto one item and idk whats the problem

But thats the only problem afaik..

[brittle echo]

When creating variants of base uniforms, how do I customize the names of the new uniforms inside the define? I want the names to be ORIGINAL_NAME_<TAG>. Also, currently these modded uniforms appear side-by-side with the original uniforms; sorting by mod does not separate them. I dont want my modded uniforms interfering with the originals, and want them grouped under a separate mod.

class CfgWeapons 
{
    class Uniform_Base;
    class UniformItem;
    
    class vn_b_uniform_base: Uniform_Base 
    {
        class ItemInfo: UniformItem {};
    };
    
    class vn_o_uniform_base: Uniform_Base 
    {
        class ItemInfo: UniformItem {};
    };
    
    #define MAKE_NEOPREN(ORIGINAL) \
        class ORIGINAL: Uniform_Base \
        { \
            class ItemInfo: UniformItem {}; \
        }; \
        class ORIGINAL##_neopren: ORIGINAL \
        { \
            scope = 2; \
            class ItemInfo: ItemInfo \
            { \
                uniformType = "Neopren"; \
            }; \
        };
    
    // BLUFOR Character
    MAKE_NEOPREN(vn_b_uniform_basecharacter_01);
    
    // BLUFOR SOG Uniforms
    MAKE_NEOPREN(vn_b_uniform_sog_01_01);
    MAKE_NEOPREN(vn_b_uniform_sog_01_02);
    MAKE_NEOPREN(vn_b_uniform_sog_01_03);

[molten musk]

I assume you need to define item info from the parent class.
Like Dart has shown.
#arma3_config message

So remove :UniformItem{}

[brittle echo]

It doesn't seem to work exactly like that, since I am also inheriting from sog base classes.

[lean bloom]

Is there any way to make a launcher use a different P3D when it is on the player´s back as opposed to being in his hands?

[lean bloom]

Or at least make some animation happen?

[hearty sandal]

IsSelected animation source

[lean bloom]

ah, cheers

[molten musk]

Display name ,
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Characters_And_Gear_Encoding_Guide#Uniform_Configuration
How to change your display name for a new uniform

And for other ground holders etc you need to define those in cfgVehicles
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Characters_And_Gear_Encoding_Guide#Ground_Holder_Configuration

[opal comet]

Anyone able to assist with this?

[chilly tulip]

I can't see any CfgWeapons or XtdGearInfos stuff in the config you pasted.

[opal comet]

At the top it has the cfg weapons and xtdgearinfos

[opal comet]

.

Unless thats wrong

[chilly tulip]

I might be blind but I can only see XtdGearModels at the top level.

The documentation suggests that it's two-part. You have the XtdGearModels stuff, and then either entries in CfgWeapons or XtdGearInfos.

[opal comet]

Im pretty new to it so idk alot is there any guides i can follow or is there someone that can teach me the basics of it?

[molten musk]

One is found from
https://github.com/jetelain/AceArsenalExtended/blob/main/README.md

[lean bloom]

How should I go about diagnosing AI not being able to fire from a vehicle´s gunner slot? They turn the turret around to aim at the enemy, but they don´t fire.

[chilly tulip]

You can shoot it fine yourself?

Maybe view model blocking if so.

[lean bloom]

Yeah I can shoot it just fine

I only have the "view cargo" LOD

Maybe something else is needed, idk. Or maybe some turret parameter is messed up.

[hearty sandal]

is the turret modeled straight forward? are the animations 360 degree rotations? and turret limits (if any) set in the turret config

[nimble sequoia]

Target might be too low value for ai to shoot their weapon.

[lean bloom]

It is modelled forward, yes. And the turret limits vary from vehicle to vehicle. Some are 360, others arent

[nimble sequoia]

Or weapon doesn't have ai modes or min range

[lean bloom]

Let me try again with replacing my weapon with a base game one, that might be a good start

[lean bloom]

Right, the vanilla weapon works, so I guess that is where the issue is

I seem to be missing the "close, medium, long" etc fire modes. Is this for the AI to use?

[wheat sluice]

Yep. You can either copy the values from vanilla weapons (rifles, SMGs, sniper rifles, etc.) or change them accordingly to suit your needs.
BIKI has a (surprisingly) detailed list for the parameters:
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_AI_Config_Reference#CfgWeapons
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_AI_Config_Reference#CfgAmmo
requiredOpticType for CfgWeapons and allowAgainstInfantry, airLock, cost, and aiAmmoUsageFlags for CfgAmmo are the ones you'll want specifically to read up on.

Oh, and maxLeadSpeed for CfgMagazines:
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/CfgMagazines_Config_Reference#maxLeadSpeed_=_23;
If that's too low, the AI won't fire their weapons against a target that's moving faster the defined speed in m/s.

[lean bloom]

thanks mate

[brave crag]

If I wanted to make a sawed off shotgun a secondary weapon option instead of primary, will a simple config adjustment suffice? Or is it going to be wonky

You can see pistols for example in the holsters on some uniforms. Assuming a shotgun will appear there too

[tame raven]

You'd have to re-import it, since pistols are positioned differently in the P3d. So, it has to be a model you have the rights and access to.

[brave crag]

Thanks for the info.

I will take a look at those dual primary mods and see how they did it instead

Just didnt wanna have to make scripts haha

[tame raven]

You should load my pal kjw's mod, kjw's two primaries

[wintry fox]

They just use a groundholder and put the weapon in that for visuals, but other than that it's just saving weapon data and then swapping it with your current

[strange locust]

Do this, it works

[brave crag]

I just want a version that only allows shotguns as secondary. Is there a whitelist in that mod for the weapons allowed to be used as secondary?

[tame raven]

yeah you can select whitelist or blacklist and it's just a list in the settings

[brave crag]

Awesome thanks

[severe marlin]

Hey guys

I'm trying to add a custom main menu
I saw the coding in bi site

I kinda don't understand the "myworldscene" lines idk what exactly should i type there

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/851068407792140288/1454389868389072997/Screenshot_20251227_115425_Samsung_Internet.jpg?ex=6950e99d&is=694f981d&hm=dc983ab268906e550899b407dc18c8d184d5b4487d5cd93db7e3896ba2447391&

Is maps or mission have classnames?

[lean bloom]

Is there something I am not getting about dispersion in the weapon firing mode config? It looks like increasing this simply creates a static offset of where the bullets land, but this offset is the same for all the bullets fired.

As in, if I aim at something and fire the entire magazine, all of the shots land in the same spot every time, no matter what dispersion value I use. But the higher the dispersion value, the further away from the point of aim I hit.

Shouldn´t this also somehow randomize the place where every bullet lands?

[wintry tartan]

class CfgMissions
{
    class Cutscenes
    {
        class Stratis_intro1
        {
            directory="a3\map_stratis_scenes_f\scenes\introExp.Stratis";
        };
        class Altis_intro1
        {
            directory="a3\missions_f_orange\scenes\introOrange.Altis";
        };
        class Credits
        {
            directory="A3\missions_f\data\scenes\credits1.Altis";
        };
        class Map_VR_anim01
        {
            directory="a3\map_VR_scenes_f\scenes\introExp.VR";
        };
        class Malden_intro
        {
            directory="a3\Map_Malden_Scenes_F\scenes\Malden_intro.Malden";
        };
        class Tanoa_intro1
        {
            directory="a3\map_tanoa_scenes_f\scenes\tanoa_intro1.tanoa";
        };
        class Enoch_intro1
        {
            directory="a3\Map_Enoch_Scenes_F\Scenes\Enoch_intro1.Enoch";
        };
    };
};```Vanilla config here. You can write whatever here

[severe marlin]

Look required addons are needed?

[wintry tartan]

I don't get the question

[severe marlin]

In config

Required addons line

[wintry tartan]

I don't get the question

[severe marlin]

Do I have put addons in it or leave it empty?

[wintry tartan]

If you mean whether you need CfgPatches >> requiredAddons[] to do any changes in config.cpp, it is ALWAYS required to fill it

[severe marlin]

Also I used ur base artwork mod for the scene
It must be enabled To show the custom menu?

[wintry tartan]

What

[severe marlin]

Nothing

[wintry tartan]

What

[severe marlin]

Nvm

[sacred willow]

im curious if anyone can give me an idea of how hard its going to be learning how to config and animate an aircraft ive got two models ive went through and built, joints are all set, i now just need to learn the hard part of the process

[hearty sandal]

If knowledge is 0 then it is hard. There's a lot of things that work together especially in aircraft.

I would recommend starting with simple model.cfg practicing by just having 1 part move/rotate around correct axis. Then expand from there.

[chilly tulip]

You might be changing the wrong dispersion. It's a fire-mode parameter not a weapon parameter.

hmm no. You're describing something weirder than that :P

[lean bloom]

Nah I changed it in the fire mode.

I noticed it works fine with machine guns and autocannons, but when I tried changing it on a direct-firing MLRS it behaved very weirdly

[chilly tulip]

What sim is that?

[lean bloom]

I don´t have it up now, but the ammo is inheriting from R_80mm_HE

It is also dual-barreled, so there is a function that moves around the spawnpoint of the shot based on ammo count. That might add to the mess I guess too

[chilly tulip]

Ah, I think that's scripted with a Fired EH?

[lean bloom]

Yes

[chilly tulip]

But yeah, probably related & bugged.

[lean bloom]

I ended up reducing the dispersion and not really caring about it too much. It´s fine-ish the way it is.

[timber flicker]

Hi everyone!
I need help!
Where is the weapon that I downloaded from the Workshop?
I downloaded Arma Reforge yesterday and I don’t know where it is 🙂

Sorry, I wrote it in the wrong place

[blissful moon]

#arma3_model message would it be possible to do some sneaky config so it plays an animation like you’re bolting down the weapon system then it switched models?

[hearty sandal]

no

just make weapon variants different models.

that is the only smart play

[midnight mantle]

Was told to post this here:

Hello!

I’m not totally sure if this is the right place to post this, but I’m hoping someone might be able to point me in the right direction.

I’m trying to build an auxiliary mod for some custom Misriah (Halo) gear that a friend re-textured for our unit. The assets were done in Substance Painter, but I’m struggling with the process of actually packaging everything so it works in-game and on multiplayer.

If anyone has experience creating aux mods or is willing to teach, I would really appreciate any guidance. At this point I’m even willing to pay to learn, I just really want to get these custom armors implemented for the unit.

Thanks in advance, and I’m all ears for any help or resources!

[wintry tartan]

Please do tell what's your current blocker

[midnight mantle]

Current blocker? I’m unfamiliar with the term

[wintry tartan]

...Or rather I'd say, "the issue" or "the problem"

[midnight mantle]

Well I have the custom/spp- but I don’t know where to go from there whatsoever, I have all the png’s and stuff but I noticed other aux mods use stuff like rvmats which I’m not sure how to make etc, just a lot of confusion and I have no clue where to go/start

[wintry tartan]

So you did not even started to make a PBO?

[midnight mantle]

Well I have a pbo with everything from atleast my understanding but I believe I completely screwed the pooch on the config, at some point I just used ai to try it which gave me better results but still didn’t work

[wintry tartan]

What exactly is the issue, which software you use to pack

[midnight mantle]

I used pbo manager to pack everything-

Here’s the uniform that I have and what it looks like in game(standbye)

[wintry tartan]

First of all, I'd suggest to throw your pboManager into your garbage bin and use a proper software. That's the first step. pboProject or HEMTT

And the ingame picture, what's the issue?

[midnight mantle]

Well the vest itself ain’t supposed to look like that, there should be a red streak down the middle and the yellow shoulder should be there but it ain’t

[viral dragon]

How are you doing this? Are you modifying/replacing the p3d, or is it only a texture you're applying via hiddenSelectionsTextures to an existing asset?

[midnight mantle]

If I’m being honest I’m honestly not sure at all- this is my first time working with something like this and I’m just kind of going on a whim- my assumption it’s the textures I have as the p3d is what I actually got within the config editor

Should I post my config in here?

[wintry tartan]

Yes

[viral dragon]

...how do you not know whether you're modifying the p3d or not? You have to actively choose to do that. If you opened the p3d in some 3D editor, made changes to it, saved it, put it in your PBO, and made your config model attribute point to the new version of the model: you have modified or replaced the p3d. If you instead only exported a texture and only put that texture in your PBO, then you haven't modified or replaced the p3d.

[midnight mantle]

im sorry, im genuinly confused, i just dont know what im doing- is there some wiki i can refer to by chance

[winter rain]

Just when i look over your posts it sounds like you got hiddenselectionstextures wrong (without looking in your config)

[midnight mantle]

so what should i do?

[viral dragon]

It's okay that you don't know what you're doing, but I thought you might know what you have done, the actions you've already taken :I

We can see from the config you posted that you aren't changing the P3D. Your model attribute still explicitly points to the original MA P3D, so you're using that P3D and only applying a texture to it, not making any changes to the model itself.

[winter rain]

First is explain what you do like Nikko asked already, i mean you got there pics of model in 3d program.. are you doing a retexture or is it a own made 3d model you have done and apply your textures

[midnight mantle]

just a retexture, were using the spp's given by the misriah devs and simply applying new textures over them

[wintry tartan]

"Just a retexture" does not require a model update. Alsocpp hiddenSelectionsTextures[] = { "14th_odst_textures\data\Antonio\MA_ODST_Helmet_Diffuse.paa", "14th_odst_textures\data\Antonio\MA_ODST_Visor_Diffuse.paa", "MA_Armor\data\Attachments\Balaclava\Marine_Balaclava_CO.paa" };Which texture is yours?

[viral dragon]

They aren't updating the actual model, they're just hard-coding the model attribute to point to the original model - unnecessary but functionally OK

The base mod is MA, so those 14th ODST Textures files must be the new ones

[winter rain]

So probably switch the second 14th to first and first to second and might be solved

Cause hiddenselections got a order

[midnight mantle]

well the helmet works fine, its just the vest

[winter rain]

Because helmet is a other object with a own hiddenselectionstexture entry and probably only 1

[viral dragon]

I don't think it's that simple.
Those are meant to be upper/lower selections, and I can see bits of the intended upper texture on the upper part of the equipment. It's just mapped wrong.

[winter rain]

Also could be but if the unwrap is already done before and they just change the texture itself it looks for me the order is not correct but i can be wrong too

[midnight mantle]

how do i find out if the order is right?

[viral dragon]

Change it and see what happens :U or look at the config of the base item

[viral dragon]

I suspect they've painted their texture freely in Substance Painter and let it figure out the texture mapping automatically, rather than respecting the mapping the actual final p3d in the game is set up to expect. I don't use Substance Painter myself so I can't confirm that, though.

[winter rain]

Im on phone so i cant look into your config atm for the orders..

But POLPOX sent the Helmet one so we need to see the Vest one.. you can just change your first texture path to the second texture path and second texture path to first texture path if anything happens.. i prefer simple way first if it would solve the problem

[viral dragon]

The vest textures config looks like this:

       // Keep same 10-slot mapping as MA "A"
        // Slot order MUST match MA’s camo1–camo10 usage
        hiddenSelectionsTextures[] =
        {
            // camo1 - H3 Upper
            "14th_odst_textures\data\Antonio\H3_Upper_Armor_co.paa",

            // camo2 - H3 Lower
            "14th_odst_textures\data\Antonio\H3_Lower_Armor_co.paa",

            // camo3 - Thigh pouch
            "MA_Armor\data\Vests\H3_ODST\Addons\Thigh_Pouch_co.paa",

            // camo4 - Reach Upper (leave default unless you made one)
            "MA_Armor\data\Vests\Reach_ODST\Reach_Armor_Upper_co.paa",

            // camo5 - Reach Lower
            "MA_Armor\data\Vests\Reach_ODST\Reach_Armor_Lower_co.paa",

            // camo6 - Canisters
            "MA_Armor\data\Vests\Reach_ODST\Canisters_co.paa",

            // camo7 - Forearm vents
            "MA_Armor\data\Vests\Reach_ODST\Forearm_Vents_co.paa",

            // camo8 - Sniper shoulders
            "MA_Armor\data\Vests\Reach_ODST\Addons\Sniper_Shoulders\Sniper_co.paa",

            // camo9 - CQB shoulders
            "MA_Armor\data\Vests\Reach_ODST\Addons\CQB_Shoulders\CQB_co.paa",

            // camo10 - Shoulder radio
            "MA_Armor\data\Vests\Reach_ODST\Addons\Reach_Shoulder_Radio\Shoulder_Radio_Green_co.paa"
        };```

[winter rain]

Looks like he has just to keep the orders like ive mentioned already in hiddenSelectionsTexrures.. even if you only retexture one of these you need to mention the other 9 aswell to keep the orders

[viral dragon]

Yes, but that's the config they posted and are presumably actually using, and it does in fact mention all the other textures, and it does follow the order described by the comments

[winter rain]

How is the inheritance?

[midnight mantle]

im having my painter redo a texture just for a test run to see if he baked it or not

[winter rain]

Does it inherit of the original with the defined selections?

[midnight mantle]

i believe so

[viral dragon]

It doesn't overwrite hiddenSelections. If the base classname is correct then it's basically fine.

The selections that are still using base textures look like they're mapped fine. The smoke grenades and the thigh pouch, for example.

Find the original texture PAA for the upper and compare it to your PAA. It should be laid out the same way, e.g. the chest plate should be in exactly the same position in the texture sheet. If it's not, then... there's your problem. The P3D is set up (mapped) to read the texture sheet in a particular way, and if your texture isn't mapped the same way, you'll get this kind of result.

[deep roost]

        class LinkedItems {
            class LinkedItemsOptic {
                slot = "CowsSlot";
                item = "rhsusf_acc_compm4";
            };
            class LinkedItemAcc {
                slot = "PointerSlot";
                item = "rhsusf_acc_anpeg15side";
            };
            class LinkedItemsMuzzle {
                slot = "MuzzleSlot";
                item = "rhsusf_acc_aac_scarh_silencer";
            };
            class LinkedItemsUnder {
                slot = "UnderBarrelSlot";
                item = "rhsusf_acc_grip3_tan";
            };
        };
    };````
Is there a specific order that each class needs to be put in? having trouble getting attachment to show up once I get above 2 attachments or so

[viral dragon]

I see you have LinkedItemAcc rather than LinkedItemsAcc. Is that correct?

[deep roost]

hmm that could definitely be the problem, let me check

[left zodiac]

Q -
Can a single vehicle possess two artillery guns that function with the base game artillery computer

If not ill just make it work with a single ace arty table and only one gun have an accurate single gun on the computer

[brazen merlin]

does anyone know why i can go from my ffv seat to the driver, but not from the driver to the ffv seat? both are in the same compartment

[nimble sequoia]

Is this with just you in the vehicle and not part of an AI group?

[brazen merlin]

just me

[nimble sequoia]

Are they in the same "compartment"?
Do you have any isPersonTurret parameter set? Try 2.

Does the turret have turn-out available on it?

[brazen merlin]

isPersonTurret is 2 and both are compartment1, yes

there is a turn out available

[nimble sequoia]

Do you also have turn-out for the driver?

[brazen merlin]

no, driver cant

[nimble sequoia]

That might be something to look at then - try disabling turret turn-out and see if that allows bi-directional movement

[brazen merlin]

if you can give me a hint again for how to turn it off 😄

[nimble sequoia]

forceHideGunner = 1; (I think from memory)

[brazen merlin]

ah, alright.

[nimble sequoia]

obv you'll lose the ffv, but if that allows movement back to the turret, it'll help indicate what the problem is, if not a fix