arma3_config

[hollow bison]

When I call it from debug - it still does not work. Apparently, when looking through its contents, these lines are automatically added to it somehow,

{
    private _fnc_scriptNameParent = if (isNil '_fnc_scriptName') then {'Pepe_fnc_AdditionModule'} else {_fnc_scriptName};
    private _fnc_scriptName = 'Pepe_fnc_AdditionModule';
    scriptName _fnc_scriptName;

#line 1 "Pepe_SimpleCustomModule\functions\AdditionModule.sqf [Pepe_fnc_AdditionModule]"
#line 1 "Pepe_SimpleCustomModule\functions\AdditionModule.sqf"

// Start of the actual function code
params ["_logic"];

Even though my build files are clean and does not have them

[chilly tulip]

That's what happens when a function is compiled.

That sounds like the linkages are correct anyway though. Your function just doesn't work :P

[molten musk]

What you have in function?
Are you checking !isServer or something else.

[hollow bison]

You know what, I just noticed that

if (!isServer) exitWith {};

God i feel stupid -_-

[hollow bison]

So my problem still exists. This is the first line in the AdditionModule.sqf

diag_log format ["Entering AdditionModule.sqf"];``` and when I place the module down even this does not get logged...

[molten musk]

--
        isGlobal = 1;                        // 0 for server only execution, 1 for global execution, 2 for persistent global execution
__

You have defined this value in your module?

well it should affect because you use zen base.

[hollow bison]

The current config. I've'nt added that due to zen base

[hollow bison]

I restarted my pc and everything seems fine now

Another question: How do you add Linebreaks to 3DEN Module Description? Adding \n does not seem to work

Fixed it using <br />

[vale basin]

good afternoon, guys!
It's me, the suppressor guy XD

I was wondering about something

The suppressor mods I made work for most weapons packs but not for the SMA one (Special Military Arms)

Couple days ago Drebin mentioned checking how the muzzle slots configs looked was important. Could this be the reason?

I looked it up in the config viewer and this is what it looks like compared to, for example, the rhs weapons

RHS weapons:

SMA weapons:

[wheat sluice]

Yes. That is the perfect example of a mod that was made post-2019 (RHS) and a mod that was made before it (SMA).
SMA was never updated to utilise the newer global MuzzleSlot classes since it was abandoned in 2016, long before the system was introduced. So it still uses the old compatibleItems[] array method of assigning attachments.

This requires changing the way SMA weapons handle their attachment slots in WeaponSlotsInfo. Either create your own replacement config or grab one off the Steam Workshop.

There should be plenty of compatibility patches available; from what I can see, this should be good enough to address the lack of CBA JR compatibility:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2264836821

Just keep in mind that SMA is still very outdated in terms of weapon functionality. It won't have magazine proxies as that was introduced post-2019, nor will it have magazine wells since that was also not available in Arma 3 at the time of SMA's release.

You're honestly better off just using some other weapon pack as a basis of your modpack. Outdated mods like this are not worth the effort in the long run.

[stuck coral]

For some reason my animation won't trigger, any indicators why?

[vale basin]

Aha! I understand now. I had noticed the magazine issue as well and found that weird. Gotcha! I'll focus on other weapons packs 😉

[sullen fulcrum]

What config options would I edit if I need to de-sensitize the controls on a helicopter?

[mortal pumice]

So it appears that in ace the interaction points go off of the models origin for say ace Arsenal, is there a naming convention for a memory point or something of the sort that I can add to things for the default ace interaction point position to be defined for that model?

[chilly tulip]

"position" in the action config defines a model-relative position, or "selection" in the action config defines a selection point to attach to. If neither exists, it uses the model origin.

It doesn't have fallback logic though, so you can't use a selection position if it exists and the origin otherwise, for example.

[wintry fox]

No, position is an sqf expression that returns an array. And selection with a non-defined memory point would just be 0, 0, 0

[wintry fox]

What type of object is it?

[mortal pumice]

I believe crates, some players of my mod are saying the positions of the interaction point is not in a great place. From what they’ve shown me it looks like it auto generating off of the model origin point which I would expect of ace is looking for something in the memory lod called something like ace_point or something like that but then falls back to the model origin if not

Was just wondering if there was a way I could define it so it’s compatible when someone loads ace with the mod

I’ve never personally used ace so I’m clueless on the specifics but I’m just looking for some pointers on how it works, what it looks for etc

[wintry fox]

Looking at code to make sure, but you can just define the selection / position values yourself. They're located in ACE_Actions >> ACE_MainActions on your object

[mortal pumice]

Okay so there’s a config component for it where you can then define the point, that’s good. Is there wiki documentation on the setup for it?

[wintry fox]

https://ace3.acemod.org/wiki/framework/interactionmenu-framework

I can also send how we do it in our mod

Tl;Dr: We have a compat addon that only loads when ace is, and just inherits the MainActions class and then modifies the selection / position

[mortal pumice]

Yeah we have the same being setup but I’m not the clever clogs doing the main meat of the compat but thought this sounded simple enough for me to do haha

[wintry fox]

Yeah it's not too bad, just basic inheritance for the most part

[mortal pumice]

Yeah looks that way, thanks for pointing me in the right direction, seems easy enough to setup

[tender fiber]

What can i do to protect a crew of a vehicle from indirectHit?

Or better, how do i avoid having the crew of a static weapon get hurt, when the Static weapon is destroyed with a IndirectHit ammo type?

[still dirge]

with a config or a script?

@tender fiber

[tender fiber]

config

[still dirge]

oh, my bad. Don't know then, sorry.

[wheat sluice]

Use crewExplosionProtection:
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Config_Properties_Megalist#crewExplosionProtection
crewExplosionProtection = 1 for full immunity whilst the gunner is manning the turret.
crewExplosionProtection = 0.9999 for near-impervious protection but still allowing the gunner to potentially die from very powerful blasts (e.g. ARMs vs. radar-equipped ground vehicles).
You may want to tweak the turret's explosionShielding multiplier as well so that it doesn't get damaged so heavily from explosive-type damage.

With regards to crew being ejected, you'll need an event handler for that. Without scripts, a turret will always kill the crew once its global health pool runs out since turrets are just immobile vehicles.

[sharp stone]

@BusterBlader The initSpeed entry in its config

[severe marlin]

Hey guys I'm trying to use randomization with event handlers
I made a faction with drongos config generator

I kinda have problem with randomization gear

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/851068407792140288/1419446165895909488/ArmA_3_2025.09.21-19.24.png?ex=68d1c9c1&is=68d07841&hm=99b83511f68c8a73230b3038f15f79b2615435f583741cc98d52dd4a3eef23da&

I have this error from in game
For randomizing unit gears
Helmet, facewear, uniform

[winter rain]

removeGoggles _this;
You got removeGoggles_this;

[severe marlin]

And?

[hearty sandal]

need the space between the words

[severe marlin]

U mean remove_goggles

Or remove goggles

[hearty sandal]

he just said it

[winter rain]

No between removeGoggles space _this instead of removeGoggles no space _this

[severe marlin]

Removegoggles _this?

[severe marlin]

Still got the error

[hearty sandal]

same exact error?

[severe marlin]

Yes

[hearty sandal]

this does not look right

you have to check each of your words and commands if they are missing spaces

[severe marlin]

I just gave space between them

[hearty sandal]

ALL

no just that one

check ALL

[severe marlin]

Others are from start

Only 3 of them it's at middle

[hearty sandal]

I do not understand what that means.

[severe marlin]

Nvm

[hearty sandal]

this part is what it errors at. so this part is what you have to look at

thats how you read the error message

you look at at that part and solve whats wrong with it

then you solve the next one

[severe marlin]

I saw that I knew it was from sqf but I didn't realized what could it be

[winter rain]

So just add a space between local and _this and then try again.. i did not see this issue, only second one i did

[severe marlin]

It fixed thanks

[sullen fulcrum]

I have been stuck on something. I asked on here a few weeks ago, but no luck. I have a map markers mod. Extremely simple, but I cannot get them to display in a new custom class in the editor. I have tried editing the marker class variable and a faction cfg as well. I am only able to make the entire catalog show in the Flags category. I must be overlooking something painfully simple.

[wintry fox]

If you want to make your own category, you need to define a class in CfgMarkerClasses then set the markerClass property in the marker itself to the name of your category.

class CfgMarkerClasses {
    class YourPrefix_markers {
        displayName = "Custom Markers";
    };
};

class CfgMarkers {
    class YourPrefix_marker {
        markerClass = "YourPrefix_markers";
    };
};

[sullen fulcrum]

Thank you! That makes perfect sense. You are the first one to have a solid idea 🍻

[mortal dove]

You can set mass on the magazine for pylonweapons, other than limiting what pylonMagazine can be used on what hardpoint (with the mass limit); does this effect and aircrafts performance?
I.e 4x 500mass pylons make the aircraft behave heavier?

[wheat sluice]

Yes and no as per Dedmen:
#dev_rc_branch message
'Yes' in the sense that it only affects helicopter simulation when the Advanced Flight Mode is activated. But because none of the vanilla pylon magazines use weight (they only use mass), it doesn't get factored in by the engine unless you define it.
'No', because plane simulation isn't affected by this. And for helicopters, it's because of the reason above.

[mortal dove]

thanks! 🙂

[west schooner]

I'm trying to work out what config controls whether or not the pilot of an aircraft can target/cycle through radar contacts without having a person in the gunner seat.

For instance on the Blackfoot you can manually target a vehicle without a gunner by looking at a vehicle with the targeting pod and hitting the lock button, however if you want to go and cycle through radar contacts you need to have someone in the gunner seat.

Any idea what controls this? Because I've seen other modded vehicles where you can't even manually use the targeting pod without someone in the gunner position.

[pastel salmon]

# Good evening people. 😄
Im a bit busy at the moment but want to send this in to ask you for some help

Im into testing out doors and their animations. Ive watched a few videos and took looks at
the sample files. Ive build up quite everything but it wont work still.

Ive added the axe point into my memLOD and named the verts with the door with tuer1 (door1) like in pic 1&2
Ive created an model.cfg where Ive defined the verts of the door as bones of a skeleton and also the CfGModels wich contains the class Animation like in picture 3

Also did I have created the UserActions where the player can open/ close the door. On top did Ive defined the AnimationSource like in the sample files (maybe someone can explain what it does) Like in picture4

I would be really greatful if anyone could give me some input about this topic

[hearty sandal]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/ArmA:_Armed_Assault:_How_to_animate_a_model
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Model_Config

[pastel salmon]

The first source is new for me. Ill study it tomorrow with new energy

[pastel salmon]

Maybe I woke up and couldnt sleep again. Ive started reading and saw that there are multiple conditions to do it like I would like.
One is the step of "Binarize" (https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Binarize)

Ive noticed that its something similar like the addon prefix. To shortcut things down for better engine usage.
So the why is clear. Just the "how" remains open..

I gues it works like: please correct any failures
binarize (command) [options] (syntax of path, filename, addon folder) "source of destination mask" (idk.. something like addon prefix?)

[hearty sandal]

you dont need to do anything with binarize manually

you are wandering way off

go back to sleep

[pastel salmon]

There stands exactly: "However, if you use the model.cfg file, you always need to binarize your addon - otherwise, your animations won't work."

[hearty sandal]

yes that happesn when you build the pbo with right tools

you dont do it manually

[pastel salmon]

Isnt the Arma3 Addon Builder an right tool?

Thats how I do my .pbo

[wintry fox]

The binrarize checkbox handles it, you're fine

[pastel salmon]

Then its time to revive my model.cfg

I gues thats because I dont have an extra cfgFunctions.hpp file

[hearty sandal]

hpp files are just way of organizing config

you could write everthing into config.cpp

[pastel salmon]

Binarizing the mod only effected in loosing all paths.
So I will stick to the config.cpp method. Ive inserted the CfgSkeletons/ CfgModels now inside my CfGVehicles of the object I would like to add the animation.
(line188)

I really dont know if this is correct..

[wintry fox]

You don't define that in your config.cpp

You're likely missing stuff in the "Files to include directly" setting

[pastel salmon]

"Files to include directly"?

[wintry fox]

It's an option in addon builder, it's empty by default but should include stuff like this

*.pac;*.paa;*.sqf;*.sqs;*.bikb;*.fsm;*.wss;*.ogg;*.wav;*.fxy;*.csv;*.html;*.lip;*.txt;*.bisurf;*.sqm;*.ext;*.dbf;*.prj;*.shx;*.shp;*.jpg; *.rvmat;*.inc;*.xml;

[pastel salmon]

That one?

[wintry fox]

Correct

Yeah your actual sqf file wasn't being included in the pbo, hence the missing file error

[pastel salmon]

Ill copy&paste yours into that. If I got the error right

You already wrote it haha

Thats now all blacklisted file typed to binarize, right?

[wintry fox]

Correct

[pastel salmon]

Ive tried to Dm you but Ive got dono-walled

[wintry fox]

Did you put your CfgModels into an actual model.cfg?

You did not, it needs to be in a model.cfg file right next to your p3d

Oh do you have it twice?
It shouldn't be in the config.cpp at all

Does the class name in CfgModels match exactly the file name of the .p3d? (Without the .p3d obviously)

Other than that I haven't messed with animations much personally so nothing else sticks out to me

[young mortar]

ok, and how does it work? which values do have which results?

[sharp stone]

i mean an integrated silencer just lowers sound and barrel velocity doesnt it?

set it to what youd like

normally youd make sure to get subsonic exit velocity

[young mortar]

but this entry seems to be for silencer attachments or am I missing something?

[sharp stone]

no this is in cfgWeapons

[young mortar]

thank you, I'll try it out 😄

[sharp stone]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/CfgWeapons_Config_Reference#initSpeed.3D0

heres the wiki on cfgWeapons

linked it to initSpeed for ease of use

dont forget that before A3 there werent any separate silencers

[young mortar]

weapon noob question: what might be a good speed?

[sharp stone]

try looking at other weapons to get a good feel? I'm afraid i never actually modded weapons 😄

[young mortar]

hmm i tried 300 as a value for subsonic ammunition

but it does not change the sound at all

sounds[] = {"SilencedSound"}; <- i thought this might do it but it doesnt....

[sharp stone]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/CfgWeapons_Config_Reference#sound.5B.5D.3D.7B.22.22.2C1.2C1.7D

"\ca\Weapons\Data\Sound\AGS30_shot1"

needs to point to an actual sound file

try looking at the silenced DLC gun

[pastel salmon]

============================================== new topic ==================================================
** What is Binarizing?** How does it work?

[hearty sandal]

you dont really need to worry about that

its done automatically

also like Crumble said, dont abuse the text size

[pastel salmon]

I thought it would be a good way to do a cut under the unanwsered questions Ive posted. I will quit this in future and just delete all old posts so people realize Im texting new things...
I also thought it would be nicer to read with an heading and marked keywords. Is it now better?

[pastel salmon]

But it effects in errors and not found data files in my case. On the other site does all sources say, since Arma1, that a serious mod needs to be binarized to achieve the next level of quality.

[hearty sandal]

You have been told many times you dont need to do anything about that yourself. when you build the pbo with AddonBuilder for examply you just tick the binarize box and it does all for you.

I would recommend using PboProject so it can tell you most of your mistakes though

[pastel salmon]

Do you listen to what I say

[hearty sandal]

AddonBuilder does very little checking of what you feed it and if you feed it errors things wont work

[pastel salmon]

I sayed that this created issues

That my files are gone, that the paths are gone

[hearty sandal]

the problem is not binarizing its something in your setup

[pastel salmon]

Im repeatly say that now since yesterday

[hearty sandal]

the question what is binarizing is irrelevant

you cant affect that process

you just need to feed it right kind of data

[pastel salmon]

So I have to prepare it diffrent. Thats what I also asked yesterday a few times

[hearty sandal]

the errors you get are the relevan thing to ask about

[pastel salmon]

"ErrorDataReceived" -> AddonBuilder.rpt

[hearty sandal]

like I said give pboProject a try

it outputs more errors you can understand

[pastel salmon]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/pboProject

I havent done that before because I dont have a clue about Mikero. I dont even know why people use it for what kind of things...
And then I ask myself if its worth my time to be investigated. But your word in gods name. I trust you.

The download link isnt working

[hearty sandal]

get the all in one installer

I think you already had that actually

[pastel salmon]

There we are

Weve abandond that topic last time in the setup and explanation of my workspace manager and why mine is wrong

I think my last learning was that I use A3 Tools or Mikeros. Thats where weve stoped.
Do you know a source where I could read about the usage? All documantation I was able to find was like "BUY MY STUFF!"

[hearty sandal]

the lesson there was to use mikeros toolset

[hearty sandal]

they come with readme files

[livid thorn]

The wiki also lists how to setup the workspace, and other things
https://wiki.mikero.tools/tools/mikeroaio#workspace-manager-1

[hearty sandal]

He does not need to setup the P drive again right now though

(I hope)

[pastel salmon]

Its on "Z" drive currently

[hearty sandal]

ah

maybe you do then

[pastel salmon]

I gues that was the point youve quited last time (I can relate)

[livid thorn]

if the workspace is activated it should be fine already? no idea its been a while

[woven imp]

Any drive is fine as long as it’s correctly populated

[hearty sandal]

yes well following default procedure is easier to find information for

and can be easier to talk about

a lot of things can be done beyond the default procedure. but those require the knowledge to do so

@pastel salmon this means you follow the recommended default procedures

[woven imp]

Or just unmount the current drive

[pastel salmon]

It feels like wasting time in here

[hearty sandal]

to get the better tools working you need to have the modding environment set up in the default way

[pastel salmon]

Ive also tried to ask you multiple times in the past if my structure is correct

[woven imp]

Any folder structure that has a config in the root can be built into a valid pbo

And the config must have valid cfgpatches class entries

[pastel salmon]

That is my config.cpp with its CfGPatches inside

[hearty sandal]

I would not do this kind of folder structuring. But if its what you want then it probably can work

[pastel salmon]

Ive also copied all paths into mikeros but receive some path issues

I gues its caused by the prefix Im not able to define into mikeros

Cant I give the prefix to mikeros? Or is mikeros its own prefix by the primary source?

It works if I put my local file path inside. Is Mikeros tool creating an own prefix from its source directory? @hard chasm

[woven imp]

It’s defined in the prefix file, see https://wiki.mikero.tools/tools/pboproject

[pastel salmon]

Ill have to study the mikeros wiki. I havent even known that there is one until Ive received it today (Dont mind I havent tried)

[hearty sandal]

pboProject is pretty straightforward tool

you input folder you want to pack and output folder where the pbo goes into

and hit crunch

it will throw errors at you if you have something to fix

[pastel salmon]

Ive never used a command line input. Its usage of 1960... But I gues thats only for DosUsage (idk)
If I got everything right its engine based in other uses like creating as much .pbo´s as detected config.cpp

I wouldnt need this if I understood everthing right because...

... the prefix is automaticly established to the root of config.cpp file(s)
But what is my prefix then? The name of the source folder?

would my path then be named like "structures\content\Tuer1\Tuer1.p3d" or
what is my prefix called?

[young mortar]

that was actually a nice idea...why did i not come up with it? thank you

[pastel salmon]

I tried to find some references with semi success..

[hearty sandal]

if you set up the project on P drive right you dont need to even use pboPrefix with pboProject

like if you have P:\yourTag\Tag_project\config itll simplify your process significantly

[pastel salmon]

Because I would start at the very begin of my source

[hearty sandal]

might be worth it

[pastel salmon]

But Im a German 🇩🇪 - I like to keep things clear and organized hahaha

[hearty sandal]

your setup is not clear

[pastel salmon]

My setup would be clean if I start at the source directory of P:\EBER_Structures\structures\config.cpp...

[hearty sandal]

P:\EBER\EBER_Structures

[pastel salmon]

And then I store mod.cpp in EBER and config.cpp in EBER_Structure, right?

[hearty sandal]

mod.cpp does not go into P drive

[pastel salmon]

ufff

[hearty sandal]

its in the local mod folder

it does not get packed into pbo

pbos dont belong to P drive

they are produced from data on P drive

P drive has nothing but Arma Project files that go into PBO

P drive represents the game file structure

[pastel salmon]

ouuuuu

I really have to thank you for all the pain you receive from my newbie not knowledge and my language barrier

My next step will be to copy the structures folder and bring it behind the TAG folder wich I will name simply "EBER"

(and to delete all unused files on P:\Drive)

So that became my new source. And because I havent used any "private folders" I also dont need to create the prefix wich would contain the path of my "private folder".
Simple as good. My inner monk still would like to learn about prefix but thats on another page

[pastel salmon]

Now Ive fixed the issue of aborted game extraktion with simply setting up Z drive instead of P
I also had the problem that my drive was initialiesed but mikero only gave me the oppurtinity to activate it. So I wasnt able to
fullfill the extraction ongoing... Now Ive an empty P drive and an (hopefully) correct filled Z drive

But I gues that I will need to read more about CfgVehicles. He isnt accepting my Reference of an vanilla house anymore

Now my Z drive doesent exist anymore and begins from 0 Im so fucking confused by everything
Beeing able to do something is like beeing pregnant...
... everybody says "congratulations - well done"...
... but nobody knows how many times youve got fucked on the way.

Now it extract the files to my F drive wich is mounted from my P drive (wich shouldnt exist) and also creating
an Z drive where I would like to receive some intel from the extraction.
Everything feels like a feaverdream hahaha

[wintry fox]

How can I edit the "Direction: Has no effect" in a module's description? Guessed it might be direction = 1; in AttributeValues, but that still displays that it has no effect

[winged umbra]

Potentially dumb question but how do I prevent a config of mine of overwriting existing entries? Basically wanting to add a vic skin to the box Van and my current code just overrides all the BI entries.

class CfgVehicles
{
  class Van_02_vehicle_base_F;

  class C_Van_02_vehicle_F : Van_02_vehicle_base_F {
    class textureSources
    {
      class meatwithoutfeet {
        displayName = "Meat Without Feet";
        author = "Celene";
        textures[] = { "z\frog_campaign\addons\lingor\textures\vehicles\Van_meat.paa" };
      };
    };
  };
};

[wintry fox]

You need to inherit the TextureSources class, just like how you do with the vehicle itself

[winged umbra]

ohhh, so just schwack on : textureSources to that?

[wintry fox]

Not exactly, because you also need to reference the TextureSources class in the parent class

[winged umbra]

Sorry, do you perhaps have an example to hand as to how to do that? I understand what I need to do, just not how and the wiki page on inheritance is kinda not helpful 😄

[wintry fox]

You need to "open up" Van_02_vehicle_base_F by getting its parent class and referencing the class inside

class parent; // placeholder
class Van_02_vehicle_base_F: parent {
    class TextureSources;
};
class C_Van_02_vehicle_F: Van_02_vehicle_base_F {
    class TextureSources: TextureSources { ... };
};

[winged umbra]

Awesome, I'll try that, thank you

[devout plume]

Quick question: Is there a specific way to make a patch that replaces the equipment of an existing faction, or can i just format everything like I was making a new faction and use the classnames of the existing faction?

[wintry fox]

There's not a specific way no, you just need to use the same names

I.e. if UnitB inherits from UnitA in the original mod, you need to do:

class UnitA;
class UnitB: UnitA {};

[devout plume]

gotcha, and where would i access the configs and such for the western sahara DLC? I wanted to replace the ION loadouts

[wintry fox]

You can just use the in-game config viewer

With the advanced developer tools mod if you want to keep your sanity

[sullen fulcrum]

Can someone point me to the Bohemia example helicopter and airplane physics cfgs? The ones that control the speed, stall, thrust variables and the like. I remember seeing them months ago, but I can't find them this round.

[hearty sandal]

Arma 3 samples on steam

[sullen fulcrum]

Thank you, I knew they were somewhere easy to find, but was drawing a blank.

[devout plume]

if i'm inheriting a soldier class that's in the base game, specifically B_Soldier_F, B_Soldier_AR_F, etc. Do I have to define them in cfgVehicles before I define the inheritor, or can I just go straight to defining my custom unit classes?

[wintry fox]

You must always include the inheritance when modifying a class. Not doing so will overwrite the inheritance, resulting in all the inherited properties being removed

[devout plume]

So it would be like the following?

class cfgVehicles
{
  class B_Soldier_F
  {
  };
  class B_Medic_F
  {
  };
  class B_ION_Soldier_lxWS: B_Soldier_F
  {
    [weapons and equipment to overwrite go here]
  };
  class B_ION_Medic_lxWS: B_Medic_F
  {
    [weapons and equipment to overwrite go here]
  };

and so on and so forth for every class

[wintry fox]

You should remove the {} from the base soldier / medic class there. Currently that would break the inheritance of those classes because you're config overwrites them and tells Arma "these classes inherit from nothing."

Otherwise yes, thar would be correct. Make sure your requiredAddons in CfgPatches is set as well

[pastel salmon]

Thanks mate for the recommondation even if I had a bad start with it haha
I already saw what youve talked about with the extended errors. It really will help me understanding whats going wrong and whats the standart.
That was worth the extra mile and the triple session

[devout plume]

sorry, if you don't mind, could i ask one final question: when defining a weapon in cfgWeapons, how would I define a custom loadout and load it with a different magazine than what the gun normally starts with. By default the G19A from Reaction Forces comes with the 17 round magazine, but I want all units who have a g19A to have it loaded with the 33 round magazine.

[pastel salmon]

Is there a way to troubleshoot or read about the errors?

[devout plume]

would it be like so

class MILLS_hgun_Glock19_auto_RF:hgun_Glock19_auto_RF
  {
    displayName="G19A 9 mm";
    scope=1;
    class LinkedItems
    {
      slot="Magazine"
      item="33Rnd_9x19_Mag_RF
    };
  };

[hearty sandal]

which errors?

[pastel salmon]

The console errors of the pboProject from the Mikero Tools. Good morning by the way 😄

[pastel salmon]

Bro I love you hahaha https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/CfgPatches
Thats whats my browser show me atm hahaha nice!

Ive also to set #include on my learning list

[pastel salmon]

But is there a source to read about the errors in detail?

HALLELUJAH! xD That humor is nice! @hard chasm

But where is my .bisign file? Ive localized my .privkey

[hearty sandal]

Some might be bit more opened up in Mikeros documentation, but beyond that they should be pretty self explanatory

[pastel salmon]

Copy that I suggested something like that.

[pastel salmon]

But what is that?
I know its the parent of my vehicle class. But it creates errors.
In the samples its simply "house" but I would like to know it in detail

[hearty sandal]

its an existing class

now you are refering to a class you invent

that does not exist

youll want to read about config structure and class inheritance

[pastel salmon]

So there are samples like "house", "door", "groundvehicle" blablabla
Those are the sources Ive found:
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Class_Inheritance
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Characters_And_Gear_Encoding_Guide#Config.cpp_structure

[hearty sandal]

they are not samples

they are part of the existing game configs

[pastel salmon]

Ive tried to describe whats ment with "existing" class.

Or is it simply:

class cfgVehicles
{
  class EBER_default; //creating new
  class EBER_default;
  class EBER_Tuer1 : EBER_default
  {
  ...
  };
};

[wintry tartan]

No.

It's not a "new" class. You are not defining a new class

You cannot declare same class twice

I believe you were told the same thing more than twice

[grand zinc]

Its a "forward declaration" in C++ land.
You're telling the game "someone else has created this class, you'll find it later when that other mod is loaded".

The "defines a new, empty class" is.. half-right.
It is forward declaring a class, that actually does not exist. The game will error on that, but as fallback insert an empty class. But you shouldn't do that to create an empty class if thats what you wanted (generally you don't want empty classes)

[pastel salmon]

I call this puzzling around and figuring out haha

[pastel salmon]

So I simply go in with the existing classes like "house" where do I find them or get more to know about them?

[wintry tartan]

Check in-game config viewer

[pastel salmon]

Copy

[pastel salmon]

Is "simulation" what Im looking for?

[wintry tartan]

Yes I guess

[pastel salmon]

Ill check in other objects if that syntax is consistent

Seams to be
just a question byside: carX -> The X is for DirectX calculation, or what does it mean? I think Ive read something about (Second picture)

[nimble sequoia]

Simulation types with an "X" indicate that they include physx, the nvidia physics engine.

[pastel salmon]

Ahh sorry physX not DirectX my mistake

But still.. my door keeps closed. Gues its a model issue.

[hearty sandal]

was there some original problem?

I think in the future try to keep focus on the original problem

you post a lot and the original issue gets often lost

[pastel salmon]

Thats really true

I have made this really basic door to get into making doors and later animations.
But somewhy it wont open
Then I found out about model.cfg and binarizing

[hearty sandal]

youll want to use the ObjectBuilders Buldozer preview to test your model.cfg animations

[pastel salmon]

Ouuu

[hearty sandal]

that way you know the p3d-model.cfg connection works

then in game all you need to worry about is the scripting to toggle the animation

[pastel salmon]

I saw that in a video. Then I also see the process step by step of the animation. And its also good to seperate ongoings for debbuging

[nimble sequoia]

The class in your model.cfg (class myDoor { }) needs to exactly match the p3d file name in the same folder.

[pastel salmon]

I hope to understand you right but thats what Ive did. "myDoo"r would become "Tuer1" in my case.
I dont know if the parent of "Default" is correct. Ive tried to keep it like the Test_House from the samples

[hearty sandal]

no

[pastel salmon]

Default isnt correct?

[hearty sandal]

default is not needed. and not what he talked about

[pastel salmon]

win - win
I will delete the Default parent then.
And also change the class Tuer1 to "class Tuer1.p3d"

[hearty sandal]

if you dont have any use for parent class, dont add one

[hearty sandal]

NO

[pastel salmon]

Good that weve talked about I was wondered

[hearty sandal]

the connection between XYZ.p3d and model.cfg

is the name

XYZ.p3d -> class XYZ

[pastel salmon]

Okay yeah, thats given

[hearty sandal]

with you, nothing is given right now 😅

[pastel salmon]

But then thats correct how it is. Just the : default is wrong. Is that enough to cause my error of the stuck door?

[hearty sandal]

no its not wrong but its useless to have it there

and no it does not cause animation to not work

[pastel salmon]

So its an warning not an error check

[hearty sandal]

test your animation in buldozer

thats the first step

[pastel salmon]

Right. Thats where we were at.. || srys ||

[hearty sandal]

it is an error in the sense of you did it without knowing why and it was obsolete

[pastel salmon]

Thats true true true haha

But hello door. In Bulldozer it works

[hearty sandal]

does this mean the door animates in buldozer?

ok then the problem is in your config/script that animates the door

[pastel salmon]

I would gues at the skeleton because thats the moving part. Is that a good guesing?

[hearty sandal]

no

[pastel salmon]

damn

[hearty sandal]

model.cfg works

config refers to config.cpp

and the userAction in there

[pastel salmon]

Ouch. Name based usage.
model.cfg = .p3d
config.cpp = a3.exe

But I receive an userAction. It just does nothing

[hearty sandal]

if you see the action it means the userAction condition is valid

that leaves the statement that it tries to run being likely faulty

[pastel salmon]

There we are. And because its a bis function it needs to be the Door_1_rot value

The last part was wrong (Ive deleted)
Ive to investigate journalisticly

Its always the fucking same..

[nimble sequoia]

Show your class AnimationSources {} in your config.cpp

[pastel salmon]

This feels so wonderfull. Thanks @nimble sequoia Big thank you brother to @hearty sandal ❤️
|| I call it the dino-gate-wonder ||

[hearty sandal]

👍

[wintry fox]

Not scrolling to see if someone already answered you or not, but the arsenal will default to whatever the first thing in the magazines array is. AI will use whatever magazine you have in their inventory

[wintry fox]

Still haven't found how to do this, looked at config but nothing's sticking out. Tried setting direction = 1 in the Attributes >> ModuleDescription itself and that didn't do it either

It's direction = 1 in the Attributes >> ModuleDescription, I seemignly edited the wrong module last time

[devout plume]

when i'm trying to compile my addon into a .pbo, it's throwing the following error:
Error reading config file [*path to file*]. Class destroyed with lock count 1

nvm it randomly fixed itself on its own when i tried recompiling lmao

goodness me is this what you modders have to deal with regularly?

[wintry fox]

No

[pastel salmon]

Im brining an errer wich Ive no clue about. I gues Ive marked the right line. Maybe you have an idea where I could take a look at..
Ive also cleared the temp folder already

[hearty sandal]

you can tweak the warning/error behavior in the pboProject settings

but as it says look into the log file to see what it errors/warns about

[pastel salmon]

I cant find more informations in that wich could help me. Or Im to new to read it. Is there anything more then
-> "binarise found 'errors'. View the binlog"?

And am I looking at the right spot? Or are there more then one type of logs?
Its only if I crunch it with +C Full Build

[pastel salmon]

Ive seen that but is it clever to just silence him?

[nimble sequoia]

It's not silencing it, as you will still get warnings in the log.
But there are some spurious "errors" that binarise throws which cannot be fixed, so changing it to "warnings" is almost required.

[pastel salmon]

Ahhh Ive reached the category of "known issues" got you 😄

Really thanks for the clearance, I was wondered 😄

[devout plume]

is there a way to control when a unit is defined/loaded in by the game

I've successfully managed to overwrite the Western Sahara ION units, but now i'm trying to overwrite the tropic units created by Aegis, and it's leading to a really bizzare conflict.

Normally the Aegis units inherit off the base lxWS units, and replace the weapons/equipment.
In my patch, i've defined the loadouts for the base ION, then immediately after defined the tropic units.

When the game loads, the ION units have the weapons given to them by Aegis, but the inventory and magazines are the ones my mod defines. Seemingly, the mod is somehow loading Western Sahara, then Aegis, which my mod uses as a dependency, then my mod, overwriting the WS loadouts, then loading Aegis again, to replace the loadouts a second time.

[wintry fox]

You need to update your requiredAddons to include whatever other addon is modifying them

[devout plume]

Which would be A3_Aegis_Characters_F_Aegis. I've already included it under requiredAddons. I even double checked to make sure that A3_Aegis_Characters_F_Aegis was in fact where the Tropic ION units are defined

[wintry fox]

Unrelated but why would they use a3 as a prefix... that's what vanilla uses

Anyways where a class is initially defined isn't all that matters, you'd want your addon to load after all addons that modify it (or at least modify the inventory)

If you have the ADT mod, take a look at the class(es) in the config viewer and see what addons modify them

And if you don't have it, you should download it

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3499977893

[devout plume]

huh...it's saying only Aegis is editing it

my mod correctly shows up for the regular units

[devout plume]

good news, i figured out how to fix it. I just split up the script into two seperate .pbo files, one for the regular loadouts, and one for the tropic loadouts

[prime tulip]

low key at my wits end, does anyone know what causes this issue? It seems to happen randomly and something as small as changing the UI image name can cause it to come and go

https://imgur.com/a/wfkhUzz

[wintry fox]

The position in WeaponSlotsInfo >> xSlot is way off

Those are meant to represent the attachments on the weapon

[prime tulip]

oh i mean to turn it off, it seems to happen randomly based on the UI image name. Does that mean i have to explicitly exclude it from the WeaponSlotsInfo? The class I am inheriting from does not have this issue

[wintry fox]

Set the icon scale to something really small

[winged umbra]

Unsure if this goes here or scripting but I'm having an issue with custom leaflets, my changes in the description.ext just Do Not appear in the config editor. And this is taken basically straight from the wiki, so I'm unsure if this is a bug or if I am doing something wrong

class CfgLeaflets
{
    class Custom_01 // configuration for 1Rnd_Leaflets_West_F
    {
        text = "Test leaflet! :)";    // text shown when previewing the leaflet full-screen. Should ideally be localised, so even player who cannot read the image can get the information
        texture = "leaflet_CA.paa";    // leaflet texture shown when previewing the leaflet full-screen
    };
};

Also throws this error

[tacit zealot]

Does the acceleration parameter do anything to PhysX aircraft?

[tacit zealot]

Also is it possible to modify a driverAction in config to remove the effect of a head moving forwards and backwards depending on speed/acceleration, or ambient shaking? Say, to create a derivative version of configfile >> "CfgMovesMaleSdr" >> "States" >> "Pilot_Plane_Fighter_04"?
Or are those types of effects dependent on the rtm file?

[nimble sequoia]

No. You probably want to look at thrustCoeff[].

[winged umbra]

FYI cause I did manage to get it working, it works after I put the config into an addon, unsure why it doesn't via the description.ext though

[hearty sandal]

Configs can't be added through description ext

[winged umbra]

You supposedly can override the existing customs ones via the description ext, wiki mentions it explicitly

[hearty sandal]

Then that error is the clue what is going wrong.

[chilly tulip]

Does anyone have any info on allowedSlots in CfgMagazines? It seems to be used to block putting rockets in vest/uniform containers but I can't find any documentation.

Oh, it's documented in CfgWeapons. Never mind.

[grand comet]

Does there happen to be any convenient config value I can reference to check with __has_include for if the client is on profiling branch?

[wintry tartan]

__has_include does nothing to do with profiling

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/PreProcessor_Commands#A3_EXPERIMENTAL
Check such

[grand comet]

ah, fair enough. didnt know there was a discrete command for that, thought I would have to look for a file. thanks

[tender fiber]

is there still no way to add delay between bursts in a burst weapon?

[wintry fox]

There's been a way, it's reloadTime

[tender fiber]

doesn't that is between shots instead of between bursts?

[wintry fox]

Should be between bursts, I may be misremembering

Single fire mode is just a burst mode set to 1

[tender fiber]

i'm unsure which i tested, but it did make the burst shoot every 1 second

[wintry fox]

What did you set the reloadTime to

[tender fiber]

1

[wintry fox]

Well yeah, reloadTime is the number of seconds between each shot

So setting it to 1 adds a 1 second delay between each shot

[tender fiber]

i don't want a 1 second delay between each shot, i want a 1 second delay between each burst, so people don't spam burst as if it was an automatic

you can do that with semi? sure, but burst makes it easier, and you would like the burst to fire faster than the semi, for it to be reliable

[mortal pumice]

I feel as if, and I could be wrong. But doing a burst ignores the reload time between the burst group and only applies it after they have all fired

If it’s all correctly configured as a burst of course

[wintry fox]

That's just how burst weapons work in arma. Not sure if you can do what you want with just config

[lethal shuttle]

Trying to make a suppressor for RHS 556 weapons but it won't show in-game? Not the model, but the option to choose it in the arsenal.

class CfgPatches
{
    class dh_m4reece_mod
    {
        units[]={};
        weapons[]={"dh_m4reece"};
        requiredVersion=0.1;
        requiredAddons[]={"A3_Weapons_F", "rhsusf_weapons"};
    };
};
class CfgWeapons
{
    class ItemCore;
    class InventoryMuzzleItem_Base_F;
    class rhsusf_acc_nt4_black;
    class dh_m4reece: rhsusf_acc_nt4_black
    {    
        scope = 2;    
        author="Dyson H";
        displayName="M4 Reece";
        picture="\A3\weapons_F\Data\UI\gear_acca_snds_h_CA.paa";
        model = "\dh_m4reece\dh_m4reece";
        class ItemInfo: InventoryMuzzleItem_Base_F
        {
            muzzleEnd             = "zaslehPoint";
            alternativeFire     = "Zasleh2";         
        };
    };
};```

[wintry tartan]

baseWeapon is undefined

[lethal shuttle]

Unfortunately still won't show. Do I perhaps need to define it in the compatibleitems in asdg_MuzzleSlot_556?

I figured the inherited rhsusf_acc_nt4_black would've already done that?

class CfgWeapons
{
    class ItemCore;
    class InventoryMuzzleItem_Base_F;
    class rhsusf_acc_nt4_black;
    class dh_m4reece: rhsusf_acc_nt4_black
    {    
        scope = 2;    
        author="Dyson H";
        displayName="M4 Reece";
        baseWeapon = "M4 Reece";
        picture="\A3\weapons_F\Data\UI\gear_acca_snds_h_CA.paa";
        model = "\dh_m4reece\dh_m4reece";
        class ItemInfo: InventoryMuzzleItem_Base_F
        {
            muzzleEnd             = "zaslehPoint";
            alternativeFire     = "Zasleh2";
        };
    };
};```

[wintry tartan]

Nono.

baseWeapon should have the classname

Not displayName

[lethal shuttle]

ah

It still won't show up in VA or editor 😭

class CfgWeapons
{
    class ItemCore;
    class InventoryMuzzleItem_Base_F;
    class rhsusf_acc_nt4_black;
    class dh_m4reece: rhsusf_acc_nt4_black
    {    
        scope = 2;    
        author="Dyson H";
        displayName="M4 Reece";
        baseWeapon = "dh_m4reece";
        picture="\A3\weapons_F\Data\UI\gear_acca_snds_h_CA.paa";
        model = "\dh_m4reece\dh_m4reece";
        class ItemInfo: InventoryMuzzleItem_Base_F
        {
            muzzleEnd             = "zaslehPoint";
            alternativeFire     = "Zasleh2";
        };
    };
};```

already checked in the in-game config viewer, it is there

[wintry tartan]

Do you have any Mods that changes something on Arsenal functionality?

[wheat sluice]

Inheriting from an existing suppressor does not automatically add your suppressor to the attachment pool.
You always need to manually add it to an existing attachment pool even if it's just a reskin of an existing suppressor.

See this past reply of mine on the subject in question:
#arma3_config message

[wintry tartan]

Oh wait is it about suppressor?

[wheat sluice]

Yep.

[wintry tartan]

I see. I must've missed smth

[lethal shuttle]

I figured it had something to do with that. But it works now, thanks!

[lethal shuttle]

Ok, I got all of the stuff working. Except the suppressor isn't making any sound when fired. I tried to add soundTypeIndex = 1 and even adding class StandardSound with its properties but it doesnt seem to work.

Would appreciate the help again 👍

[wheat sluice]

You shouldn't need to modify anything in your suppressor class because firing SFX is handled on the weapon itself. If the weapon is silent when you pull the trigger, then it means that the weapon itself doesn't have soundsets for firing with a suppressor.

...that being said, looking at your inheritance structure shows that you haven't set it up correctly. You're not inheriting properties from RHS's NT4 suppressor (rhsusf_acc_nt4_black) but are instead getting them from InventoryMuzzleItem_Base_F.

I'd suggest changing up your suppressor config like this:

    class rhsusf_silencer_base;
    class rhsusf_acc_nt4_black: rhsusf_silencer_base
    {
        class ItemInfo;
    };
    class dh_m4reece: rhsusf_acc_nt4_black
    {    
        author = "Dyson H";
        displayName = "M4 Reece";
        model = "\dh_m4reece\dh_m4reece";
        picture = "\A3\weapons_F\Data\UI\gear_acca_snds_h_CA.paa";
        class ItemInfo: ItemInfo
        {
            muzzleEnd = "zaslehPoint";
            alternativeFire = "Zasleh2";
        };
    };

Be sure to check if the weapon's firemodes has soundsets for when it's unsuppressed and suppressed. It'll typically look like this:

        class Single: Mode_SemiAuto
        {
            sounds[] = 
            {
                "StandardSound",
                "SilencedSound"
            };
            class BaseSoundModeType;
            class StandardSound: BaseSoundModeType
            {
                soundSetShot[] = 
                {
                    "MyWeapon_Shot_SoundSet",
                    "MyWeapon_Tail_SoundSet",
                    "MyWeapon_InteriorTail_SoundSet"
                };
            };
            class SilencedSound: BaseSoundModeType
            {
                soundSetShot[] = 
                {
                    "MyWeapon_silencerShot_SoundSet",
                    "MyWeapon_silencerTail_SoundSet",
                    "MyWeapon_silencerInteriorTail_SoundSet"
                };
            };
        };

[lethal shuttle]

Thanks. I guess it was an inheritance issue. 👍

[pastel salmon]

Is this the right place to ask about glasses in models?

[hearty sandal]

glasses?

[pastel salmon]

I think window glasses would be a better wording

[hearty sandal]

what about them?

[pastel salmon]

I know nothing about them sadly...
I know that there is a macro_glass.hpp and some points for the hitbox of destruction.
Ive also found out that there are diffrent models that needs to be connected. (Broken/ Alive)
And I saw something like a glass shader with its own fresnal etc.

What I need is the practice part about it or at least a source to read about
Thats all realeted Ive found:
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Material_-_Basic_glass_reflectance

Ive found the main source of my confusing
|| The example from my mate @Banratte doesent have destructable windows ||

I feel confident to figure it out with the A3 Samples_House_F but a source to read would be dream

[hearty sandal]

theres no source

like the sample model basically has the parts

if you have model related questions about glass those can go to #arma3_model, those are visual things.
For configuring tings you can ask here.

On config side you can make the glass (and any other part) destructible

such feature connects to the model side via animations and/or texture swapping

[pastel salmon]

Okayyyy lets go Im still on this
At the moment Im building in the doors and figuring out why Im not finding it in Bulldozer

[strange locust]

What does the the config entry CfgNetworkMessages do? I found it in old advanced slingloading code and some exile servers seem to use it.

[nimble sequoia]

It isn't in the config dump of A3 code, so probably nothing native.

[young mortar]

i have a problem getting the muzzleflashes to hide on my weapons....I don't know what I'm doing wrong

the selections are called muzzleflash

and it just doesn't work

[sharp stone]

What does your flash and flashSize property look like?

[young mortar]

i was not aware of these values

checking it out now

thanks

lol it works

why am i such a noob? 😄

[warped perch]

Having an issue with turrets vertical traverse input being inverted. Both side turrets face forward initially and are turned through initTurn in config. Anyone have any idea how to fix this?

minElev=-10;
                maxElev= 16;
                minTurn = 10;
                maxTurn = 170;
                maxHorizontalRotSpeed=10;
                maxVerticalRotSpeed=10;
                initElev = 0;
                initTurn = 90;

[hearty sandal]

invert the axis

in model.cfg

or invert the angle directions

[true fossil]

Anyone know if requiredOpticType is supposed to work with secondary weapon launchers? The AI seems to ignore the setting for launchers and use whatever fire mode it wants. The same appears to be true for other mods that try to use requiredOpticType (for example RHS AFRF), no issues with primary weapons.

[warped perch]

this ended up working. Had to switch from using axis to begin and end and flipping the axis

[hearty sandal]

using axis and flipping the points around should also work

but begin/ end is fine as well

[pastel salmon]

Hey there 😄
Im bringing multiple little issues. But I think there will be
quick solutions each because its all similar.

Some of my doors skip their animation and tell me that they need a number instead of a string.
I compared everything to the further, working processes but werent able to detect an issue.
Same is at the garage gate but with no error.
All anims work flawless in Bulldozer

[wintry tartan]

Maybe quote around the code

[nimble sequoia]

Polpox is right.
condition = "...";
statement = "...";

[pastel salmon]

Im back from my midday break
Ive read your messages and understood it like Ive done it on the attached screenshot
https://youtu.be/AWM5ZNdWlqw

Update:
Its still the same error. Ill change my language to english so weve no language barrier

[wintry tartan]

Correct

[pastel salmon]

post updated @wintry tartan

[wintry tartan]

Well

_this not this

[pastel salmon]

Dedmen posted something about! FUCK IVE FORGOT. Shame over my head..

Here we are again. That was the topic I was looking for.

[grand zinc]

No its not related to that

[grand zinc]

No. Actions use this

Read the error message

you got a string, where it expected a number

[pastel salmon]

One time! One time I thought that Ive connected something right haha

[wintry tartan]

Ah shit you're right

[pastel salmon]

Im really confused by the reaction of Polpox and Apollo. I just followed them over the cliff hahaha

[grand zinc]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/BIS_fnc_doorOpen
Read the wiki page.
The last parameter is NOT a string, you are passing a string

You're also passing 7 arguments to a 5 argument function

very much looks like you didn't read the wiki page

[pastel salmon]

Nope. Ive started with NoHandle. For that there is no wiki if I remember right

So Ive got something to do. Thanks mate 😄

I gues my best way to go will be to do it similar to the doors, Unite the handles together and reverse the angle1 from one of it
or I find out how to execute multiple commands at the same statement so I do two anims at all and launch them paralel

[pastel salmon]

Im back with a quick question Is it possible to execute two commands via one statement?
Ive tried a lot with ; , " * ) but nothing really worked. Am I doing something fundamental wrong or is it
impossible?

[nimble sequoia]

Yes, it's possible, but you're still not using " ".

[grand zinc]

Semicolon, but not in parenthesis

[pastel salmon]

Alright, so I will combine it with the +semicolon -paranthesis from Dedmens hint

[hearty sandal]

compare yours with vanilla config examples

[pastel salmon]

There are similar cases in the samples file? Ill take a search

[pastel salmon]

Goooood morning (Ive did nothing wrong on the techniqual site yesterday as it seams as far as Im today)
|| Those are my nemesis issues ||

[pastel salmon]

For the case that I would like to work with degrees instead of radians, where is the 0° in my circle?

Because Im not understanding how the radian calculation works. Ive tried to read or remember to be sure
that Im at least using the correct formula but also the converters spit the same result

[nimble sequoia]

rad 0 means no rotation, leave it where it is.
rad 50 means rotate it around my axis points by 50 degrees. Whether it goes clockwise or anticlockwise depends upon which of the axis points was made first/last.

[pastel salmon]

Thats what Ive hoped. Until my confusion started after Ive found this hint in one of the samples file 2 days ago.
But Im reaching an limtit with this logic on my door handle because it does unexplainable turns like breakdance

[nimble sequoia]

Putting rad in front of the number means you are using degrees, so you don't have to do calculations.
There are 2π radians in a circle.
There are 360 degrees in a circle.
angle1 = 2 * 3.1415926
angle1 = rad 360
Those two are equivalent.

[pastel salmon]

I never was good in math lessons back in the school but this sucks me in until I fully understand...
So the engine is working with radians so I enter degree values and execute them for calculation 🤦

So now Ive to proof it in practice because Ive also guesed that and earned strange results haha

[nimble sequoia]

No calculation.
Just decide how many degrees rotation you want, say 75 degrees, and write rad 75

[pastel salmon]

The rad orders the calculation. Thats what Ive ment. Degree isnt the default value

[nimble sequoia]

Correct

[pastel salmon]

Those are my values. They are going in the wrong direction

So all I need to to is to swap the minus in front of the parenthesis and all good
First coffee drank, first cigarette smoke. Lets wake up hahahaha shiat that was too easy

Thanks for confirming my guesing. But hey! Now I finaly know what the "Bogenmaß" || radian || is. And how its calculated 😄

[nimble sequoia]

Yes, you can put the minus sign in front rad -50 or -rad 50
Alternatively swap the axis memory points around

[pastel salmon]

Thats also an idea I thought about. But tbh I thought thats not possible to do

[nimble sequoia]

Radians are actually the SI standard unit of angular measure and very commonly used in mathematics, but a lot of people don't know about them at all.

[pastel salmon]

Why not metric system you fools 😢😂

[nimble sequoia]

Algabreic expressions are greatly simplified by using radians. When you know advanced maths it all makes sense.

[pastel salmon]

I wish I could

[nimble sequoia]

Same in physics.

[pastel salmon]

Thats more my topic but also unsafe in details

Its like latain for language

Now it has to become waterproof and work ingame

Its still an instant door ingame.. but now without an error..
So it got no animation. It just jumps a boolean I gues its the function syntax

[pastel salmon]

I still got an two frame animation.. slowly Im running out of ideas

[nimble sequoia]

Haven't time to check all your messages where the info might be hidden, but I'd guess it might be something in class AnimationSources, either no animPeriod = 5; set, or source = "user"; rather than source = "door";.

[latent monolith]

im guessing this is is either a model error or config error so ill post here first and if its the wrong place someone say and ill move this to Arma3_model

so basically ive got a tank thats not "drawing" the tank treads when it moves does anyone have any idea on why that might be? its got the corresponding memory points and its labelled like so in the config:

[hearty sandal]

how are the track memorypoints lined up compared to your physX wheels?

do you have autocenter named property in use?

[latent monolith]

for the memory lod or just in general?

[latent monolith]

sorry i meant to reply to this for the memory lod or just in the P3D overall?

[hearty sandal]

in memroylod from side view

their height compared to model 0 height and the physX wheels

[latent monolith]

the unselected are the closest PhysXwheels

does it need to be on the same "height"?

[hearty sandal]

under it slightly I think

[latent monolith]

copy will adjust now and let you know if it works

[latent monolith]

negative effect

got it to work in the end turns out this code was wrong:

needed to be this instead

[hollow haven]

hi. need some HELP. currently running server on bisect, but gameplay desync/lag when player encounter with enemy.

[hearty sandal]

#server_admins

this channel is for modding configs, not servers

[hollow haven]

ohh sorry. my bad. i thoung server config

[brave crag]

Anyone know where the config for the contact DLC objects are housed?

[pastel fog]

*_f_contact and *_f_enoch pbos
Enoch is the shared content, like other DLCs
Contact is the Contact only stuff, mostly just for the Contact campaign

[brave crag]

Thanks I was looking for a crater and got confused because it had the contact DLC icon, but its actually just in data_f > particleeffects

[idle imp]

Hey

I spent 5 hours trying to fix by myself a mod I found, Ghillie strips by Alyx
Here's the problem :
The Ghillie strips appears as Facewear in all 5 camos (MTP, TAN, KT, WDL and DPM)
The Ghillies strips are also available as NVGoggles but only in MTP, and I want it to appear in all 5 camos (especially WDL) - it seems to be meant to be that way, every single class already exists

What I did so far :

• I compared it with a config file from a working NVG mod, all seems in order
• I changed the scope of every class to 0, except the WDL one set to 2, still appears as MTP
• I changed some parameters to the same used in the working NVG mod
• I changed the hiddenSelectionsTextures of the MTP ghillie strip with the one with a WDL camo
• I changed several values in the config file

Here's my way to test my changes :

• Open the pbo file with PBO Manager
• Extract the config file then convert it to .cpp using Arma Tools
• Edit the file and save it
• Extract everything from the pbo and create a new one (non-binarized) with the edited config.cpp file
• Place the "new" PBO where it was and launch the game

I can't find a solution ... If anyone can take a look please, I'd be grateful

[hearty sandal]

Nvg can't use hiddenSelections if I remember right.

Also you must not repack someones mod. Unless it's specifically licensed to allow that.

[idle imp]

I've seen it used in the working NVG mod I compared it to

[idle imp]

I'm not the one repacking the pbo, I know it's no excuse but that's why I have a hard time tracing the original author and his license

[hearty sandal]

You sure it didn't have separate models for that?

[idle imp]

let me send it to you, I may be wrong tho

the third class uses a hiddenselection

I was confused between HiddenSelection and HiddenSelectionTextures, so not the third one
but they all use HiddenSelection

at long last, I "fixed" it by replacing the MTP camo file (the texture file) in the pbo by one with the WDL camo ... it's not really a long-term solution, if I ever need the MTP camo, but at least now people can use both the Ghillie and a Facewear

thanks @hearty sandal for your remark, your comment about hiddenSelection gave me the idea to "brute force" the issue by replacing the MTP file

[hearty sandal]

this will mean repacking the mod though?

does its license allow that?

TFN...

is this same series as TFL stuff

which is banned anyway due to being all ripped

[idle imp]

Idk where the guy found it, but I guess we'll delete it then

[rough hatch]

is there a way to configure a missile to lose its lock if the unit that fired it is no longer locked locked onto the target, like a semi active radar missile? none of the vanilla missile flight profiles seem to do that, is there maybe a way to create custom flight profiles?

[tame raven]

They used to not be able to. They can now

Don't ask me when that change happened though lmao

[warm topaz]

Apologies if this is the wrong channel for this but is there a step by step guide for creating a mod compat anywhere? Specifically wanting to add gear to KJW’s low vis systems and creating weapon compats for JSRS 2025 but I have very little knowledge of scripting, creating mods etc

[hearty sandal]

no step by step guide for that. Mod compatibility is very broad concept

[tacit zealot]

Are bombs that don't explode on water contact possible? i.e. trying to make a depth charge, or a torpedo using cruise missile logic

[idle imp]

there are naval mines in the base game, so yes I'd say it's possible

[tacit zealot]

hmm yeah I should look into how SOG:PF did their air-dropped naval mines

[steady beacon]

No, you would need to script it. Semi active homing was never implemented

[rough hatch]

I thought scripting would work using setMissileTarget but that doesn't seem to work for making a missile lose its target after being fired

[steady beacon]

What did you trigger the script from the shooter or the missile?

[rough hatch]

I ran it on the projectile object that you get from the fired EH

[steady beacon]

Custom missile? What sensor components does it use? Maybe try using the script to disable them instead of setting a new target for it

[rough hatch]

I was just testing it on some vanilla AA missile to see if it was even possible

is there way to disable its sensors via script?

[steady beacon]

Yes and without the sensors even with loal enabled in theory it shouldn't be able to guide into anything anymore

[rough hatch]

what commands can do that?

[steady beacon]

enableVehicleSensor but I haven't actually tried it on a weapon,that I can remember, so it may or may not work.

[sullen fulcrum]

Hey there. I am having no luck searching the wiki. Can someone shoot the link for the helicopter version of this? I found wheeled and boats as well, but can't find the one I need.

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_CfgVehicles_Plane_class_config_reference

[hearty sandal]

is there something specific you are looking for?

helicopters might not have page like that

[sullen fulcrum]

Ah ok. I think the standard vehicle page should work then. Heli speed and torque functions like a normal "engine," I guess? I experimented with the plane. The goal is to change the variables a bunch for a sci fi flying car mod.

[hearty sandal]

helicopter is a bit of its own animal since it also has the advanced flight sim mode

you probably dont want to mess with that though

the sample helicopter config has comments on what different parameters do

its mostly there

[sullen fulcrum]

I knew that was the answer. Unfortunately I believe this was written by an alien species, as it is clearly not a human language... lol
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Helicopter_Flight_Model_Config_(XML)
I will try the sample config, but I am thinking it is above the time and scope restaints of a hobby project.

[hearty sandal]

you dont really need to worry about that

especially since you are making something that wont be flying like a real helo anyway

youll want the simplistic normal flight model

[sullen fulcrum]

Yeah the plane example flew in an impossible manner regarding real world technology. Not going for flight sim level realism, so that should work.

[hearty sandal]

the samples are just samples

not really fine tuned

[sullen fulcrum]

I was referring to a test I have done already. I used the sample config, and entered some rough variables and played with it a couple times. It was just tested as a simple patch for an existing plane. It looked silly as could be with the wrong model, but it is definitely possible.

[rain scarab]

@wicked sandal https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/BIS_fnc_exportEditorPreviews may be what you're looking for

[wicked sandal]

I'll give it a try!

[wicked sandal]

it didn't seem to work for me. it couldn't find any classes for the items I want to image. that honestly might be because I'm missing something in my config, though

basically, I want to create this sort of thing, but for items that I'm modding into the game. I've been able to get away with making a unit invisible for things like vests and backpacks, but I can't seem to do the same for uniforms

[hearty sandal]

you would need an invisble character

but also dont over think it

and just take picture with the character in it

[wicked sandal]

oki doke

thanks for everyone's help so far!

[wintry fox]

Hemtt can create those for you with its photoshoot command

[wicked sandal]

Hemtt sounds familiar

[wintry fox]

It's a build tool, like addon builder or mikero's but far better IMO

[wicked sandal]

looks like there's a bit of setup involved

Thanks for that 😄 I'll get stuck into it

[wintry fox]

Not that much setup, it's just downloading it and then setting up a config file

[delicate cypress]

does anyone know how to configure viewpilots for vehicles? I know you can adjust the seat with the numpad but is there any ways of changing the player's head at a specific position?

My issue is that the animation and proxy placement I have right now match the aircraft's controls but the head is misaligned to the left

[amber nacelle]

Are you sure your first person view uses the right view LOD?

[delicate cypress]

yes

I have a viewpilot lod

its just that the animation I chose has the head slightly offset

[amber nacelle]

Then it might be a question of the animation/pose used? 🤔 I think I have a similar issue where my tank driver also seems to be a bit offcenter even though the proxy is centered

[amber nacelle]

ah 😄

[delicate cypress]

tried playing around with minMoveX / maxMoveX in class Viewpilot but that doesnt seem to work for the starting pos, only limits the seat adjustments

ideally I'd make my own anim but I'm not quite there yet

[amber nacelle]

Seat adjustment is how your camera moves when you hold Ctrl and move your mouse, right?

[delicate cypress]

yes and no

im talking about control + numpad / page up page down

[amber nacelle]

I'm asking because the head/PoV movement has been the bane of my existence when flying planes and I couldn't find a way to unbind it, but that's OT

Anyway, for the reason I appeared here, to ask for help myself - Is there any simple way to increase the deceleration rate of a tank? I've got my tank set up pretty good, except this bit. I tried messing arouund with the dampingRate in the PhysX set-up, but that also killed my acceleration.
EDIT: Found it, it was

dampingRateZeroThrottleClutchDisengaged```

[delicate cypress]

friction?

[hearty sandal]

is this warthunder model?

[amber nacelle]

Nope

WT doesn't even have the AGDS 😄

And it's not from Armored Warfare either

[hearty sandal]

where is it from then?

[amber nacelle]

My own

[delicate cypress]

war thunder doesnt even have that

[delicate cypress]

I'd try messing around with
brakeDistance
brakeIdleSpeed

there might be a friction coef somewhere aswell

[amber nacelle]

AFAIK, the latter handles fully stopping the vehicle by applying brakes when at low speeds.

But thanks nonetheless

[amber nacelle]

If you don't believe me I can DM you pics of some WIP 😄

[hearty sandal]

no its fine. Its just bit sus way to show it without textures

[amber nacelle]

Yeah, I haven't touched textures yet 😅

Finished Fire Geo today

Weapons and textures are missing

[amber nacelle]

Found it, it was

dampingRateZeroThrottleClutchDisengaged```

[tacit zealot]

Been trying to make a depth charge using similar ammo submunition logic like a cluster bomb. However, whatever I do it still keeps detonating on the surface. Any suggestions for making an ammo/submunition that doesn't explode on water contact?
Maybe I can just spawn a bomb at X meters below surface using submunitions... That would have problems in water shallower than explosion depth though
Otherwise I know how to make a mine go to a set depth, but I'm not sure how to make it explode instantly when it gets there. TimeTrigger

[hearty sandal]

!ban 372482192057696266 0 homophobic racial slur trolling. You are no longer welcome here.

[violet drift]

*fires them railguns at @twin thistle* Ò_Ó

[tacit zealot]

Slightly hacky solution: make the depth charge a mine with a specified sink rate and depth. Put this in an init EH for the mine ammo
Mine can detonate via trigger of choice or by depth, which is realistic for many depth charges

[wintry fox]

Should use triggerAmmo instead of setDamage
https://community.bohemia.net/wiki/triggerAmmo

[tacit zealot]

Also, is there a way to make an underwater sensor? Radars have a Max/MinTrackableATL property but that only ever seems to work up to the water surface and not below.

[valid flint]

does anyone know how i can set up dynamic loot for my mission in arma 3?

[wintry fox]

You'd likely need to script one yourself, or find a mod that adds it that lets you configure what you want

[wintry tartan]

You still need to define what's the requirements of dynamic loot you say

[valid flint]

i found one but i dont know if I did it well, at the time of trying the game nothing appears, but i think it is because i have to adapt to the map

but i dont know how that is done

[valid flint]

a bit of everything everywhere

as in dayz

im trying to recreate dayz experience

[hearty sandal]

complex thing.

and more a scripting or mission making thing than config

[valid flint]

zombies and scavengers i think i made it

i just lack vehicles, weather and loot

i dont want to do it multiplayer

[tacit zealot]

At best on the config level, you can randomize headgear and facewear natively. Any more and you need scripta and eventhandlers. Beyond adding the EH to a unit config, thats for Scripting chat.

[wet pike]

Does anyone know if it's possible to set the backpack bags in Arma to assemble more than one item on the scrollwheel?

i.e. if there's two different versions of a turret, and you want one version (raised) as opposed to the other (lowered).

[tacit zealot]

Different tripods right? Vanilla backpacks do that IIRC

[wet pike]

Same tripod, same gun - but with two potential outputs.

[tacit zealot]

I dont think so, you would need separate "tripod" and "raised tripod" backpack

But gun can be the same

[pastel salmon]

Ive made my door animations running but also would like to ask a question about hitzones.
Whats the best way to define there values like HP?

In my first picture you can see the hitCloud I would like to attach to my window
Those are the sources Ive found somehow related to my topic:

• https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Damage_Enhancement
• https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Hitpoints

[pastel salmon]

Is there a source to read about something similar to that?
Just something that makes it easier for me to understand whats going on in the templates config.cpp/ _macros_glass.hpp

Im looking for something that creates me an overview of the needed parts and theyr dependencies to each other

[wet pike]

Pain. Makes sense.

In that case, alternative solution - is it possible to add a scroll wheel interaction on a deployed turret to turn it into another variant?

[amber nacelle]

Hello, any idea what syntax error I have commited? I can't find it for the life of me

[grand zinc]

Line 15, a forward declaration (without {}) doesn't have inhertiance

[amber nacelle]

oh

[amber nacelle]

That did the trick, thanks

[lament sluice]

If using BIS_fnc_exportEditorPreviews, is there any way to specify a faction only rather than addons or an entire side?

[wintry fox]

No

You could filter it by script yourself and pass the exact class names though

[lament sluice]

Ah, thanks 👍

[wintry fox]

Is there a destrType (https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/CfgVehicles_Config_Reference#destrType) that still allows the object to take damage?

I still want the object to take damage, but to remain there even when its killed

DestructNo seems to disable damage from normal means, and DestructDefault has it falling through the floor when killed

[tacit zealot]

I use a copypaste from my cfgpatches into the function. I think the function's wiki page (not the Configuring Asset Previews page) has an example for B_Soldier_F. Paste in right there

[storm river]

How to set up root folder like \A3\Something. I'm worrying about doing it wrong

[winter rain]

no, its somehow strange made at all. This falling trough is done via DestructionEffects
I have disabled it and did my own DestructionEffects for my buildings.

You can disable it to test with
class DestructionEffects{};

[wintry fox]

I'll mess with that later, thanks 👍

[storm river]

what have i done wrong?

[wintry tartan]

What are we supposed to understand from this chunk of image?

[storm river]

apprently prefix doesn't work

or I just have bad understanding in codes

[wintry tartan]

How you can be sure it's not working?

[storm river]

Because it appears to have model, just no texture.
I tried some simpler such as images for logo, and it still can not find the picture

[wintry tartan]

Do you mean an error popup

[storm river]

So I'm guessing that the game can not find the texture file

[wintry tartan]

I thought I asked a yes or no question

[storm river]

yeah

[wintry tartan]

Then check your folder path

And folder structure

[storm river]

Addons\Characters_F_Vindonia_Pack1\Vests\Data\CarrierVest_IPM_CO.paa
"\PV\Characters_F_Vindonia_Pack1\Vests\Data\CarrierVest_IPM_CO.paa

[wintry tartan]

What is this path supposed to mean

Your folder structure or config

[storm river]

top is folder, lower is config

[wintry tartan]

And which is the folder you put in AB

[storm river]

ab?

[wintry tartan]

Addon Builder

[storm river]

I packed Characters_F_Vindonia_Pack1 into Addons

[wintry tartan]

Then your PBOPREFIX is PV\Characters_F_Vindonia_Pack1\

[storm river]

Thank you sir

[pastel salmon]

Can anyone give me a source to read more about the simulation/ type value of the DestructionEffects section inside the class hitbox of config.hpp?
Im currently reading to https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Damage_Enhancement but cant find enough helpful data about the named topic. Is there any more to read about that could help?

[hearty sandal]

there probably is not more

basically you can mimic how vanilla destruction effects do it

[pastel salmon]

So next step is to search through existing data for usefull

[hearty sandal]

yes

the all in one config dump file in pinned messages can be very useful source to search

vanilla buildings inherit their destruction effects from quite early parent

[pastel salmon]

Looks like Ive reached that point at some topics 😄
Can you tell me something about what to care if I place down the mem point of Glass effects?

[hearty sandal]

that is all it needs

[pastel salmon]

So it simply spawns some kind of simulation = "particles" of glass? on the given memLOD position

[hearty sandal]

yes

you can see what it looks like in game

when shooting windows

in game you can see how most things like that look like easily

just

[pastel salmon]

I will have to collect all of them haha
Also Ive to find out how to do own

[hearty sandal]

[pastel salmon]

Thats the benefit I receive from ~10years

[hearty sandal]

pretty much

[pastel salmon]

Love everything about it.

[hearty sandal]

but also you rarely need your own effects since the basic effects cover most things easily

theres smoke and dust and glass for buildings

and fire

[pastel salmon]

Thats what I call god mode. Its the stage after creative mode.
Okay lets continue. I gues I will use the dust effects later to make a ruin of the building

[pastel salmon]

Okay that could work. But I still have to unexplained lines I took over from other documents

[hearty sandal]

type is what effect it uses (light effect for light sim and particle effect for particle sim) you can find the corresponding classes in the all in one dump

the material you dont need to concern with

[pastel salmon]

Thats also a lot to take care about. But its a good start and Ill definitly need this later.

I thank you alot but still have questions

Where does the _hitbox suffix comes from? Is it a given name or a engine thing because its part of the Hit-Points layer?

[hearty sandal]

name of the hitpoint class does not matter

it could be
class AWEöothjYHaedlijh
{
name = Glass_1;
};

the name parameter connects it with the points cloud in the hitpoints lod

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Soldier_Protection

this can be useful

although it describes soldier hitpoints, it still shares same basics

[nimble sequoia]

AWEöothjYHaedlijh "Owww tooth ache head hurts"

[hearty sandal]

exactly

[rough hatch]

are there any guides for setting up MFDs past the BI wiki MFD page? I'm looking for what it takes just to add a simple gun sight to a MFD

[hearty sandal]

no dont think so. you could check vanilla mfd classes. thats where I've looked to figure them out

[rough hatch]

I've looked at other plane configs, as far as I could see it just has a crosshair Draw entry which has a circle with a bunch of points that are based on ImpactPoint and then has the ImpactPoint bone with ImpactPoint as a source

but when I tried adding that, it didn't really draw anything new

is there maybe something I'm missing that it needs to draw?

[pastel salmon]

moved from https://discord.com/channels/105462288051380224/105462984087728128
Thats the current error youve asked for. It turned up after changing the config_macros to that what Ive attached at my second screenshot
(I gues its wrong but I try to interpret what @Dart tried to teach me)

[chilly tulip]

The "line 24" is wrong because the #includes just get dumped into the file.

It might actually be complaining about something in cfgPatches or cfgFunctions.

[pastel salmon]

Ive changed and made it work now. Back there I was at the point of try&error 😄

[devout plume]

Not sure which channel to ask this in, but what's the best way to go regarding making a custom faction config for the workshop: Is it okay to use and require DLC assets like the weapons and gear from Apex, Tanks or Marksman or should I try to use more modded/vanilla content? What about using stuff from the CDLC like reaction forces' Rocket Launcher?

[pastel salmon]

The class was the mistake. Ontop was my AnimationSource unfinished. It always feels like still doing this idiot failures. Thanks for the help 😄
Im now at the point of investigating for the 2 selections of diffrent glass conditions that switchs in case of fire. @chilly tulip

[warm furnace]

No entry 'bin\config.bin/CfgGlasses/Default.identityTypes' i have this problem how can u find this ?

When i turn on server cant log in

Im missing some pbo but which one uhh

[hearty sandal]

its up to you.

[storm river]

Huh so it does work, might be some other problem

[wintry tartan]

Okay?

[storm river]

So uh the texture doesn't work when wearing

[livid thorn]

Gonna need a little more context

The texture on your uniform shows up when on the ground but not while wearing it?

[storm river]

yep

[hearty sandal]

have you retextured also the unifrom character from cfgVehicles and not just the unifrom item from cfgWeapons?

[storm river]

I see, now it worked

Hmm, but it decided not to work after a clothes changing

[rapid sparrow]

What is it that determines if an object is subject to gravity or not when placed? (eg all the vanilla explosives fall to the ground when placed via ace, but a lot of breaching charges from mods do not despite not being attached to anything)

[hearty sandal]

properly set up model with valid geometry lod

[rapid sparrow]

As in a mass value? My object had that but was still staying in place

[hearty sandal]

mass and valid geometry component

and enough mass

[rapid sparrow]

Will look into it, thanks

[nimble sequoia]

Possibly simulation type too?

[tame raven]

HouseX isn't subject to gravity yeah

ThingX is

[hearty sandal]

houseX isnt real 😅

[tame raven]

Jenna's Hallucinations

[balmy junco]

i have created faction and i want my unit to use randomly selected gear/equipment when spawn. how do i do that? im using Alive orbat

[sweet pecan]

What are all of the config things that affect a helicopter's flight model? I want to make one helicopter fly exactly the same as another.

[pastel salmon]

Hello people 😄
Could someone experienced do me the favor to take a quick look over what Ive did in the attached code.
To explain my issue, Im now having a glass but thats because of the default glass.rvmat wich Ive assigned to the mesh.
So it has nothing to do with the point that Im not receiving an interaction if I hit the glass. There is no sound or particle effect.
Ive marked the lines in wich I expect some possible issues, but Im doing glasses for the first time and cant be sure.

My current step is the "interaction" by hitting the glass by receiving particles and a glass sound. The next step will be the diffrent glass states and their UV maps

[nimble sequoia]

1. For testing, replace macros with straightforward code
2. Confirm that you have a hitpoints LOD with a correctly named glass hitpoint present
3. Check that you have a valid Fire Geometry at the glass position (closed, convex, named both ComponentNN and with hitpoint name, with penetration material)
4. Use dev branch diagnostic exe with "hitpoints" debug command to verify that your glass is actually taking any damage

[pastel salmon]

Bro you denied just everything haha thank you alot for that detailed analyse
My issue was that Ive forget to complete the componments after building the glass pane.
The sound as the particles are coming up now, the destruction is next

Now I will need to setup the diffrent graphics for the destruction state. But I dont know how
I would insert two textures at the same mesh. (Im using Blender with Toolbox/ ObjectBuilder)

[nimble sequoia]

Two methods, use 1 or both.

1. Use the class Damage {} config code to switch materials applied to the texture, between
   glass - undamaged rvmat
   glass - damaged rvmat
   glass - destroyed rvmat
2. Optionally, hide the glass completely when it is destroyed, using model.cfg skeleton bone and hide animation

[pastel salmon]

I gues Im doing both then. I gues the issue is in the texture assigning at the second image in line 76/77.
Ive only assigned one texture in there as you can see in image 3 (object builder) I dont know how to attach the second texture (broken glass) there

I gues that I will have to insert it into my .blend file somewhere around the marked area inside the material tab.
But I dont know how to add a second texture/ .paa to the same mesh

[hearty sandal]

same as adding second material in blender

[pastel salmon]

wow

[hearty sandal]

each blender material has Arma texture/material entry

[pastel salmon]

Please tell me that Its not just simply adding a new material

[hearty sandal]

as simple as that

well also you have to assign that material on some surface you want to use it on

[pastel salmon]

Thats where my confusion started. Cant I only assign one material at the same mesh? I thought I simply would overwrite the position

I cant assign 2 materials at the same Mesh. Its like Ive expected. They are overwriting each other

[nimble sequoia]

On vehicles, I always use mat[] in class Damage, where you apply 3 lines for each material

So in the p3d you have "window_set.rvmat" applied to the glass.
Then the code swaps that to "destruct_half_window_set.rvmat" when it is damaged and destruct_full_window_set.rvmat when destroyed.

[pastel salmon]

Thats part of my config.cpp damage value

[hearty sandal]

single face can have just 1 material

but 2 faces can each have different material

[pastel salmon]

So Im not assigning my diffrent textures via Blender, because Im doing it in the config.cpp?

[nimble sequoia]

Textures or materials, yes.

[hearty sandal]

you assign the first texture/material

[pastel salmon]

So its 2 planes with each texture?

[hearty sandal]

the engine then detects that from your config list and swaps it

[hearty sandal]

no

[pastel salmon]

Good. But Im still not sure how to

[hearty sandal]

in this case I mean the walls have 1 texture the window have 1 texture

[nimble sequoia]

1 plane = your glass in the model
Best to keep it separated from other parts of the model.
Assign that plane a texture and material.
That texture/material gets changed by the config code when damaged/destroyed.

[pastel salmon]

Ahhh so the first material/ texture is assigned in the model itself and shows the config.cpp where to start the "diashow" of destruction states wich is defined in the config.cpp damage section.

But Im noticing that the samples file shows up one more window .tga at its visLOD as mine

[pastel salmon]

I do need the window_set.rvmat not the glass penetration value to connect it to the config.cpp, right?

Could it be true that my textures are changing but my UV Tex map is that horrible that it scales up on a size I cant see changes?
And if so, how can I allign the UV Map on the .paa image?
I gues no because the geometry dont fade out as well, the window remain always solid

[nimble sequoia]

Have you verified that the glass is taking damage by monitoring the hitpoint value?

[pastel salmon]

I gues my solution will be the glass1_hide/ _unhide wich is alligned at the same mesh and should contain the diffrent textures.

[pastel salmon]

The radius of the CloudHitpoints are the same as Ive created them with in Blender

[hearty sandal]

does not necessarily mean they connect with the hitpoint config

[pastel salmon]

I gues thats what Im doing in my macros.hpp/ config.cpp together with the vertex groups in my mesh

[pastel salmon]

Ive a good and a bad news.
The good one: Ive fixed an UV issue
The bad one: Im still missing my texture switching on hit interaction

[nimble sequoia]

I've already suggested what you should try next. Read back.

[pastel salmon]

I gues were talking about that one

Ive already added a class Damage and a skeleton called like the convex componment

[pastel salmon]

What exactly is dev branch diagnostic exe, where can I find it and how can I use it.
Bonus: Is there any intel about to read? || Got it https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Diagnostics_Exe ||

[nimble sequoia]

Try googling "arma dev branch diagnostic exe" and look at the first result

[mortal pumice]

do you have sections defined for the glass in your model.cfg

    class Bunker_Main_01: Default
    {
        skeletonName = "Bunker_Main_01_Skeleton";
        sections[] =
        {
            "tech_glass_wide_01_hide",
            "tech_glass_wide_02_hide",
            "tech_glass_wide_03_hide",

If im remembering correctly it needs to be the same as what you define as your visual in your hitpoint class

but without it defined in sections it cant change the material/texture on the glass

Quote form https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Jets_Hitpoint_Configuration

"visual - name of the selection in the visual LODs (to change to damage texture). Name of selection in visual need to be in sections in model.cfg"

[pastel salmon]

That sounds like a thing that Ive missed so far..
Ill take a look at this to work that in

[pastel salmon]

Ive seted up the tool but always receive an error during startup

How do I add something to its parameters? *Do I use the standart steam start setting? It instant launchs into the main menu

There are many errors

I finally was able to join the editor but cant find the wanted .pbo in there

[pastel salmon]

Im also able to use it on vanilla content. But wasnt able to implement the .pbo

[pastel salmon]

Its a windows thing..
.. Ive to create a shortcut and add its parameters.
But Im still not able to load the exact data

[whole jacinth]

The smoke effect of the cruise missile always seems to spawn at the attachment point, which is in the middle of the missile, instead of at the engine exhaust. How can I fix this issue?

[pastel salmon]

It says missing ; if I try to launch it via launcher and execute an command

[chilly tulip]

You're probably running the dev exe not the diagnostic one?

[pastel salmon]

Ive done a shortcut of the arma3diag64.exe to add a target to its path. The issue happens ingame when I receive an empty mod screenshot2

How should I insert the .pbo into it?
Im not getting through the explanation of the wiki
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Diagnostics_Exe

[chilly tulip]

Should be P:\foldername but if diag_enable throws a syntax error then either you're not running the diag exe or BI fucked up.

[nimble sequoia]

Arma3Sync is a pretty nice launcher I've been using for years and years. Makes changing exe and mods loaded very simple.
https://docs.anrop.se/en/arma3/getstarted/arma3sync/

[pastel salmon]

Step by step now
Im starting the shortcut with its target -mod=P:@EBER_Structures
Is that correct?

[pastel salmon]

ou lord

[chilly tulip]

No, you don't have the backslash.

[pastel salmon]

but I like the diag tool haha

[chilly tulip]

P:foldername is wrong, P:\foldername is correct. If it exists.

[pastel salmon]

Your right. I could bet Ive tried and errored it away haha

[chilly tulip]

But that won't stop it running the exe so something else must be broken.

[pastel salmon]

Thats correct but still no result

[nimble sequoia]

Are you definitely on dev branch?

[pastel salmon]

To be sure, dev branch in the status in my steam or what?

[chilly tulip]

It said dev branch in the other screenshot.

Can you paste that whole startup line text, not the screenshot?

Mod stuff doesn't even matter.

[pastel salmon]

You mean that?

 "E:\Steam\steamapps\common\Arma 3\arma3diag_x64.exe" -mod=P:\@EBER_Structures

[chilly tulip]

yeah I dunno then. Suspecting BI screwup. Can't check because it takes too long to switch to dev branch here.

[amber nacelle]

Good day. When creating ammo/magazine and inheriting from existing classes, do I need to copy the whole existing entity I'm inheriting from or are just the definitions of them enough?
In other words, do I need to do what's in the first image or is the second image enough?

[wintry fox]

You can simplify it even more

class VehicleMagazine;
class 1000Rnd...: VehicleMagazine {
};

[amber nacelle]

Oh, so I don't need the three preceding inheritance lines? Wonderful, thanks 🙂

[wintry fox]

You only need to "open up" a class when inheriting from a class within it

Also is that a new class you're creating or are you modifying a vanilla one?

[amber nacelle]

Creating a Bushmaster III based on the vanilla 35mm AA cannon

[wintry fox]

When creating a new class, you should always add a unique prefix to prevent conflicts with other mods

[amber nacelle]

Good point, thanks 😅

[wintry fox]

E.g. CG_100Rnd_...

[amber nacelle]

Will do

Btw, I presume this code handles dualfeed, is that correct?

[wintry fox]

Yes, that gun will have two muzzles

[amber nacelle]

Thanks. I think I might do that as well 😄

[tacit zealot]

How can I figure out where certain config classes are defined? I'm seeting the AH-99's MFD has the classes MFD_Left_Engine, MFD_Left_Flight, and MFD_Left_Radar defined, but when I opened up my local copy of Air_F_Beta's config, I don't see those classes in the aircraft MFD. I also checked every other Air_F_X PBO and can't find references anywhere.

[amber nacelle]

Wouldn't that be in the config of the vehicle itself?

[sweet pecan]

I think they might have been updated recently or something.

[tacit zealot]

hmm
Welp, I guess I'll just deal with the annoying mega-inheritance chain just to add a multiplied value

[amber nacelle]

Is there no way to make a fixed missile launcher on a vehicle? As in I don't want the launcher to elevate with the main guns and I want to have the missiles always come out at the same elevation angle.
Looking at RHS, the BMD-2M, BMP-2 have a fixed launcher, but the missiles still come out at the angle of your optic/main gun, not the launcher.
Same story with the CUP BMP-1 and BMP-2. The TOW launcher of the Bradleys in both CUP and RHS has a lower max elevation than its M242 autocannon, but the missiles still come out at the angle of the cannon.

[pastel salmon]

After it seams that an engine issue crosses my diag.exe plans Im forced to use the Arma3 sync.
I only know it from others who made modpacks with it. Ive read the whole page but dont know what its offering to me

** -> Lets move the conversation into https://discord.com/channels/105462288051380224/105464579600977920**

[tacit zealot]

Forgive the brute-force helicopter inheritance, but any clue on why my HMD displays aren't visible upon activating collision lights? My goal is to make the HMD togglable for pilot+gunner, and use the "multiply condition by user variable" method successfully on every other aircraft I've modified (but as seen here, I use collisionlights for debug to minimize places for error).

On every other aircraft, I manually redefine the entire MFD config, but the Commanche's MFD class is just way too much for me to sanely copy over, especially since the external pylons one is configged separately as well.
I have put air_f_beta in the requiredaddons, used the brute force vehicle inheritance to prevent issues I found with overwriting vanilla classes, and have manually redefined all the classes that are present in the MFD setup, since otherwise they behave similar to turret inheritance and don't appear either.

Do I need to also manually re-inherit every subordinate of AirplaneHUD>Draw? The class isn't overwritten since the config viewer still lets me view everything within AirplaneHUD.

[wheat sluice]

Is there a reason why you aren't simply using A3_Data_F_Decade_Loadorder for your requiredAddons?
You are inheriting from the vanilla AH-99 Blackfoot class, so anything you do has to be after A3_Data_F_Decade_Loadorder if you want to ensure that your changes properly override vanilla stuff.
Air_F_Beta is earlier in the loadorder chain, so your changes are being placed between that and before A3_Air_F_Beta_Heli_Attack_01 (which comes after it in the loadorder priority).

Also, if readability is a concern, you should consider just copying over all of the Blackfoot's MFD stuff into a separate header file (.hpp). Then use a preprocessor macro to slide it into the config so that you can avoid bloating the main config file.

{
    ...
    #include "BlackfootMFD.hpp"
    ...
};

This way you can avoid needing to inherit from the vanilla Blackfoot if it's still giving you inheritance problems with the MFD.

[pastel salmon]

That was the last missing piece. Im really thankfull brother ❤️
Like always one little line hahaha

The next step is the third state of damaged glass

[tacit zealot]

Implementing requiredaddons fix at this moment.
Every other aircraft I have set up uses HPP file, I just have this current setup for testing. I was initially going to do a copypaste of existing MFD, but after I finished fixing the formatting and rounding errors due to binarization, I realized I used an outdated source file and amn't really in the mood to do that all again. Though I could, I was really hoping I could get it with inheritance since all I want to do is add a single extra condition to the HMDs.

Yes, I do care about formatting and not having rounding errors, since once I make a MFD HPP, I copypaste that thing like crazy, and don't want to propagate errors and hard-to-read files into my work.

Current solution: Inherit all MFDs, and re-define HMDs.

[pastel salmon]

Im still searching for the way to assign the second texture to my visualLOD. Ive texted with HorribleGoat about that yesterday. Gonna read the 10x time then. Maybe Ill find something or have a better understanding now

Meanwhile I gues that its something between the .blend and .p3d file because its also "unmapped" doesent sound that good

[pastel salmon]

I dont know exactly what unmapped is but also thinking about the "2)" that discribes the ongoing with the next bone.
Ive still not figured out how to add the second section into the .p3c/ .blend. Its conntected to the _hide _unhide suffix in the vis/ geoLOD

[pastel salmon]

Update:
Im still on that second image part with my vertex group.
I dont know how I assign the second texture to the same mesh.
Im only receiving the material that is assigned at the actual face in my .blend file

I gues thats also the reason why my animation begins backwards if I add the bone for
the glass_unhide, wich contains the destroyed texture. Because the _unhide is empty..

The issue has to be in the _unhide selection

[wintry fox]

How is CfgAnimationSourceSounds set up?
Looking at vanilla config I see that sound in the AnimationSources class points to a class in it, and then there's seemingly specific named entries like OpenTheDoor, SlamTheDoor, DoorMovement, etc.

I'm working on setting up a door to use the vanilla system, so I have this in my object

class AnimationSources {
    class Door_1_sound_source {
        source = "user";
        initPhase = 0;
        animPeriod = 5;
        sound = "TAG_door_open"; // not sure how to set up correctly
        soundPosition = "door_pos";
    };
};

Also semi-related I guess, but can I have unique sounds for the door opening and closing right? I have different sounds for each that were previously just played manually from the UserAction

[midnight apex]

Hello my good people, does anyone know how to change a vehicles honk sound?
It would be very nice if someone could point me to the right direction :)

[wintry fox]

Horns for cars are just a weapon added to the vehicle, you'll see it in the weapons array

The sound itself is the drySound of the specific weapon

[midnight apex]

Thanks :D

[winter rain]

class CfgAnimationSourceSounds
{
    class TG_Doors_Open_Close
    {
        class Open
        {
            loop = 0;
            terminate = 0;
            trigger = "direction";
            sound0[] = {"tg_sounds\all\door_open.wss",0.4,1};
            sound[] = {"sound0",1};
        };
        class Close
        {
            loop = 0;
            terminate = 0;
            trigger = "(1 - direction)";
            sound0[] = {"tg_sounds\all\door_close.wss",0.4,1};
            sound[] = {"sound0",1};
        };
    };
};```

[wintry fox]

So are Open/Closed specifically named entries or is there some other part of the config that points to those classes specifically?

[winter rain]

trigger = "direction";
trigger = "(1 - direction)";

[wintry fox]

I mean the open / close
Like all that's in the AnimationSources class is the sound which points to the whole class itself

What determines which class in TG_Doors_Open_Close is played?

[winter rain]

this

trigger = "(1 - direction)"; (for close)```
in your `class CfgAnimationSourceSounds`

while you just add it in your `class AnimationSources` of your building
```            class Door_1_sound_source
            {
                source="user";
                initPhase=0;
                animPeriod=1;
                sound="TG_Doors_Open_Close";
                soundPosition="Door_1_trigger";
            };```

[wintry fox]

Yeah I get that, is direction like the phase of the animation or something?
So it's going through all the classes in TG_Doors_Open_Close and checking the trigger for each class?

So if direction is 1 for the door being closed (which would seem backwards) it plays the opening sound, and then vice versa for the close?

That was the part I was looking for some more info on

[winter rain]

you got to try it out, i havent experimented lot with this stuff, i have just added my own sounds for my doors and what im able to understand is the trigger and its direction, so open comes first, close second and is combined together as 1 class

[wintry fox]

Oh alright, yeah I was trying to find some more information on this but couldn't find anything on wiki. I'm not terribly concerned with trying to figure out how the internals work. It was playing the sounds correctly so I just was wondering if you had some more info on it

Thanks 👍

[wintry tartan]

Looking for opinions:

• Goal of the project: don't let people make their own randomization way to randomize their units' loadout, but use one framework. Benefits both creators and users through unifying the ways to one goal

• Achievements that has to be done: Config being simple. No extra EHs to work, just config for units

• Current status: working product is actually done. But I have some doubts and points I want to achieve. No release guaranteed

• Opinions to look: is this way modders friendly? Easy to understand? Easy to config? Can array[] += {}; work and (at least hard to) not break the original Mod's intention?
  Example configs to follow:

class B_Soldier_base_F;
class B_Soldier_02_f;
class B_Soldier_F: B_Soldier_base_F {
    PLP_ERF_uniformPool[] = {    // it will pick one of these randomly
        "U_B_CombatUniform_mcam",
        "U_B_CombatUniform_mcam_vest",
        "U_B_CombatUniform_mcam_tshirt"
    };
    PLP_ERF_primaryWeaponPool[] = {
        "arifle_MX_F",
        "arifle_MXC_F"
    };
    // "optic*" here is equivalent of "" but for optic. other accessories have its own equivalent
    // in this context, 1/5 chance to have no optic
    // this array should include every accessories and items of the primary weapon, including magazines
    PLP_ERF_primaryWeaponItemPool[] = {
        "optic*",
        "optic_ACO","optic_ACO","optic_ACO","optic_holosight",
        "30Rnd_65x39_caseless_mag"
    };
    // for later use
    PLP_ERF_primaryWeaponItemPoolBlack[] = {
        "optic*",
        "optic_ACO","optic_ACO","optic_ACO","optic_holosight_blk_f",
        "30Rnd_65x39_caseless_black_mag"
    };
};
class B_soldier_AR_F: B_Soldier_02_f {
    // this system uses its own way to inherit configs, not to make unintentional mixup
    // eg an unrelated faction unit that is inheriting B_Soldier_F will not inherit the such parameters without this PLP_ERF_poolInherit declaration
    PLP_ERF_poolInherit = "B_Soldier_F";
    
    // PLP_ERF_primaryWeaponItemPool will be ignored if PLP_ERF_primaryWeaponPool is a two-dimensional array
    // and will use the latter parameter of array to randomize
    // main purpose of this way is not to mixup colors eg having black magazine to sand rifle
    PLP_ERF_primaryWeaponPool[] = {
        {"arifle_MX_F","PLP_ERF_primaryWeaponItemPool"},
        {"arifle_MXC_F","PLP_ERF_primaryWeaponItemPool"},
        {"arifle_MX_black_F","PLP_ERF_primaryWeaponItemPoolBlack"},
        {"arifle_MXC_black_F","PLP_ERF_primaryWeaponItemPoolBlack"}
    };
};```

[hallow quarry]

if I want to make a uniform avalable to all 3 sides (blufor,indfor,opfor) how do I do it

The same faction has a version for indfor, blufor and opfor

[wintry tartan]

Duplicate classes, as vanilla game does

[hallow quarry]

in cfgvehicles?

or also the item in cfgweapons

[wintry fox]

modelSides in the unit's config

You can set it to 6 to have it available for all sides

[hallow quarry]

does it work with uniforms

?

and where do I put it in cfgweapons

[wintry fox]

All uniforms have a corresponding unit

You put it in the unit (CfgVehicles) that corresponds with the uniform (CfgWeapons)

[hallow quarry]

just in the open?

              {
                  author = "Gamenator";
                  scope = 1;
                  hiddenSelectionsTextures[]=
                  {
                      "Uniforms\fed\Viper_fedwdls_suit.paa"
                  };
                  
                  modelSides=[0,1,2];
                  uniformClass="FLPMC_vipersuit_fedwdls";

              };

eg this

0 is opfor, 1 blufor, 2 indfor

[molten musk]

modelSides[]={0,1,2};

[hallow quarry]

in the open I mean I don't need it in a class within the class in cfgvehicle

my code is without the modelsides rn

just asking where to place it

[wintry fox]

Yes

[wintry fox]

If you want it for all sides, just use 6

That doesn't include civilians there

[hallow quarry]

will test with that first and if it doesn't I write this right?
modelSides=[6];

[wintry tartan]

modelSides[] = {6};

[wintry fox]

Like polpox / Prisoner sent it, that's how arrays in config are written

[grand comet]

Maybe having the entries be weighted could be useful? It's not really a critical issue when you can just repeat the entry, but if you want to have PMCs or SF or rebel forces who use a wider variety of weapons and uniforms.

Probably out of scope though. General concept looks pretty good

[wintry fox]

Something like https://github.com/CBATeam/CBA_A3/pull/1783 ?

[grand comet]

Pretty much yeah, you're running selectRandomWeighted here which is what I'm thinking. It would just be a data structure change regardless; could support both by checking the first element of the array and seeing if its a string or array and then flattening that full array and feeding it to selectRandomWeighted

[wintry fox]

I meant more so that you didn't have to re-implement something I'm working on for cba

[grand comet]

Ah. I'm not the person to ask in that case sorry, with the reply I thought it was directed at me

[toxic solar]

I am making a small vtol around like 50 kgs and I dont really know what values I should put for envelope[] ,thrustCoef[] and the other flying related values cause theres really no example of a small vtol to follow off, where would be a good starting point?

[sweet pecan]

AFAIK, envelope is the maximum load factor of the wings (how many gees it can pull) or something.
According to my past testing, the maximum thrust of a normal plane (so maybe also VTOL?) at sea level is the (0.1586) * {the mass} * (maxSpeed ^ 0.5) * (the current thrustCoef).
So mass doesn't really matter for either.

[toxic solar]

oh so like lets say I could edit the base game black wasp and its like 8000 kg or something (idk) then it would fly the same if its like say 500kg?

[sweet pecan]

There are a bunch of other factors that I don't know if mass matters for them.
Weird things happen when you change the mass of something with setMass so I don't know about if you changed the real mass.

[wintry tartan]

It is intentionally omitted, not to make config complexer. Duping item in the list should work

[livid robin]

For making an air vehicle, is there a way I can make it unable to take "impact" damage from smashing into things/landing too hard, or am I shit outta luck?

[clever stone]

I'm trying to make a replacement config, can someone point out the exact folder structure needed for single config.cpp

[median wedge]

you shouldnt need one if its just config.cpp

[quartz rampart]

Does anyone know which Visual Studio Code extension allow for the syntax in the Config.cpp to be read as Arma 3 style rather than C++ style?

[chilly tulip]

What's the difference?

[quartz rampart]

Comments were green, variables were light blue, class definitions were another color, etc. Just makes parsing it visually easier

[nimble sequoia]

Try these two config parameters:
damageResistance = 0.004;
epeImpulseDamageCoef = 20;

[wintry fox]

That's going to be mostly based on your selected theme

Hemtt has an Arma Config language though
https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=BrettMayson.hemtt

Looks like this with my installed theme

[somber cloak]

p:\tag\tag_addon\config.cpp

[sharp stone]

thats just convention

[somber cloak]

coincidentally it is the exact folder structure needed for a single config.cpp

just sayin'

[sharp stone]

you dont need that structure

[wintry tartan]

I actually did not noticed this because I'm not a CBA user. I'd rather reinvent the wheel but that kills my intention to help people, so I guess I won't release my attempt

[twilit ledge]

im also not a CBA user 🙂

[modest surge]

i am trying to identify which seat / turret is the co-pilot seat for helicopters.
Im woundering, where in config it is defined which seat can "take over controls" - anyone knows that?
nvm: isCopilot = 1

[twilit ledge]

@wintry tartan hay your loadout framework looks Awsome: really cool man

@modest surge

in a GostHawk chopper in game

this moveInTurret [helo1,[0]]; // pilot
this moveInTurret [helo1,[1]]; // Co-pilot
this moveInTurret [helo1,[2]]; // left gunner
this moveInTurret [helo1,[3]]; // right gunner

i know thats not a config but there you go 🙂

[wintry fox]

They mean for any given vehicle, not a specific vanilla one

The turret paths will vary for every vehicle

[twilit ledge]

yes i ment just the vanilla GostHawk

i don't know about any mods or anything like that

but he did say - turret co-pilot seat for helicopters

[sweet pecan]

...in the config.

[twilit ledge]

yup i saw that

i can only give what i got lol 🙂 witch is not much i know

but maybe its a start

[wintry fox]

Knowing the setup for one vehicle doesn't extend to others
They had asked in the ace discord before and got what they were looking for though

[dry plover]

Hello!

Guys, I have an issue with a gun I am updating. For some reason, when I equip a optics on it (TOP mount), the camera gets set wa lower (inside the gun) instead of being properly to aim. I know it is something in the gun itself, since the same optics is working fine with other guns. I am sure I forgot something.

Any idea?

[wintry fox]

Your gun is missing the memory points for using a scope

Should be "eye" and "opticView" by default iirc

[dry plover]

ya, I have checked that, let me go over it again

thanks, let me test it

[tacit zealot]

I'm working on trying to make aircraft cannons compatible with the pylon system. So far, it's worked on the AH-99, but I'm having trouble with the Mi-48 since it's dual-feed. When using the vanilla non-pylon method (add magazines/weapon to turret) is used, the desired results are achieved: Gunner can switch between both muzzles with a tap of the F key. However, with the pylon system in place (despite each muzzle being restricted to separate magazine lists), only one muzzle is filled with ammo. If I press "F" as a pilot, the gunner skips the next muzzle, and if I press "F" as the gunner, the second muzzle is displayed as being filled with the first ammo type; however, I do get the option to reload the intended magazine, and then the system works as designed. This is insufficient because it requires manual player input and does not work out of the box for unknowing players or AI. The attempted solution was to configure each feed as a separate weapon, which worked, but broke aircraft animations as they can only be assigned to a single weapon. Any suggestions?

Fig. 1: Using pylon system, second muzzle is selected, but the first muzzle's ammo is displayed, and the option to "reload" to the correct ammo is present
Fig. 2: Intended result after "reloading" the second muzzle's ammo type
Fig. 3: Weapon configs - dual-muzzle vanilla-alike option, and "separate weapons" option which causes animation issues. Note the separation of allowed magazine types.

[novel lava]

i don't think it'll work - pylons always add a weapon and a magazine to the vehicle

so the only way to do it would be to have a HE weapon and an AP weapon

although rereading your post i guess you could potentially work around it by forcing a scripted reload to the 'correct' magazine

it reads like an oversight in the pylon system to me where it just loads the magazine to the first available muzzle instead of the correct one

[grand zinc]

Note that both CBA jointRails and vanilla MagazineWells are not using array append because it is too flaky. And instead use the class format. Which additionally also allows for removing/disabling entries.

[grand zinc]

With the new pylon system it could be bypassed with with add/remove handlers and adding the weapon/magazine by script.
But when the pylons are not magazines, you loose the animation sources so that's probably not an option either

[wintry tartan]

Very good point

[grand zinc]

Do you think it's something that could be fixed in engine, without breaking other mods?

[clever stone]

thanks

[viral dragon]

am I...stupid? How is this causing a "script not found" error?

[molten musk]

IIRC you need have sqf in List of files to copy direclty part

*.sqf

[viral dragon]

Well, that seems to have fixed it, so thanks.
It's annoying that it doesn't really explain what that option does.

[lofty zealot]

@clever stone simple:
...\config.cpp where the ... is any path which contains a folder you can run through some makePBO tool

[tacit zealot]

¯_(ツ)_/¯
You're the one affiliated with BI here....

[grand zinc]

I don't know everything.
Modders know configuration stuff better than I do

[tacit zealot]

The magazines are regular vehicle magazines just with hardpoiints added - they dont add weapons since they dont have pylonWeapon defined. The turret still has a weapon defined.

I think. Sparky showed this method to me

[jagged fractal]

Yo I made new 3D model vehicle is it better to take configs from other vehicle or to make new config?

[hearty sandal]

make new.

you got to learn to understand what you are doing

[jagged fractal]

I thought so😉 ty

[jagged fractal]

You have tutorial or some help?

[jagged valve]

@sharp stone I would get in the habit of doing what Uro says or at the very least using tags_ otherwise you stray down a bad path

[sharp stone]

oh yes

and i do

but the question of what was needed when dealing with just a config,cpp

[jagged valve]

Well if you making a config its gotta go somewhere. So putting it in your addon folder that is tagged is a good idea

And good practice

[sharp stone]

oh yes for sure

[split zenith]

Hello people, I'm having trouble with my dedicated server. Trying to modify some CBA settings like third person only in vehicles (ACE view restriction). Looked at CBA wiki, tried editing Mission tab in Eden before uploading my mission to the Workshop, tried editing Server tab aswell. When I enter the server, in addon options everything is set correctly but I still can't go to third person when I enter vehicles. Anyone knows what I'm doing wrong ?