arma3_config

[sullen fulcrum]

I know that Object Builder supports an automation scripting language called bio2s, but I haven’t seen any introduction to its syntax anywhere.

[hearty sandal]

you dont want to spend time on that

if your turrets are modeled in wrong direction the fix has to be done in the source file so you dont have to do it over and over when you notice some other mistake to fix

[sullen fulcrum]

I see there is a “rotate” option in Object Builder, but I don’t know how to select the axis. By default, it seems to rotate based on the center of all selected points, but that’s not what I want.

[hearty sandal]

yes yes

but dont

Im telling you this with over 10 years of experience with OB

please let it go and do it properly in better program

[versed stratus]

Is someone know how to configure reload time between pylons in plane? For example: i have 6 pylons with rocket on each one of them. How to add reload time between firing ?

I'm searching for alternative of magazineReloadTime for weapon config but with pylons

[sullen fulcrum]

By “better program,” do you mean Python in Blender?

[hearty sandal]

you dont code the changes

you can just easily do it manually in blender

you must know modeling if you have a full vehicle model already

[hearty sandal]

pylon weapons are same as other weapons

***magazineReloadTime ***is for swapping between magazines,

reloadTime is for time between shots

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/CfgWeapons_Config_Reference

[versed stratus]

magazineReloadTime not helping for some reason (

is there is a way to change swapping between magazines with scripting ?
i know there is setWeaponReloadingTime but its for shots

[hearty sandal]

I dont think I understand what exactly you try to do

[versed stratus]

Okay. I'll try to explain better. I'm saying about TU95 from RHS. It has a bay (pylon if i'm not wrong) which one is loaded with 6 magazines, each of it has count = 1. When i'm trying to shoot from it there is no delay between firing this magazines. How to add this delay ?

[hearty sandal]

right so in this case each of those pylons is an individual weapon

so there is no magazine swap between them

[versed stratus]

no waaay

[hearty sandal]

yes

each one is single shot weapon

so you would have to script some sort of delay system, but off the top of my head I dont have ideas on what commands that would use

you could look into the delay fire of the railgun

[versed stratus]

Gotcha. Thank you for time 🙂

[sullen fulcrum]

I have already flipped the turret, but how can I modify the parameters in the class Animations section of model.cfg? I want the turret to be able to rotate a maximum of 130 degrees left and right, but its default orientation is always facing the front of the vehicle. How can I change it so that it faces the rear of the vehicle instead? Below is my current class Animations definition:
class main_gun_turretC
{
source = "main_gun_turretC";

type = "rotation";
selection = "main_gun_turretC";

axis = "main_gun_turretC_axis";
minValue = "rad -130";
maxValue = "rad +130";

angle0 = "rad +130";
angle1 = "rad -130";

};

[hearty sandal]

in model.cfg turret and gun angles are always +-360

the limits and orientation are done in config.cpp

[sullen fulcrum]

In class Turrets, I set the parameters as minTurn = -130; maxTurn = 130; initTurn = 180; but it still doesn’t work — the rotation baseline is still based on the turret’s forward direction. How should I configure class Turrets

[hearty sandal]

the 130 is the limtits for it pointing forward, you want the angle offset trom the 180 position

so like 150 and 210 (example, not based on your values)

180 being in the middle

the limits are not in addition to the initTurn

[sullen fulcrum]

So changing it to minTurn = 50; maxTurn = 310; initTurn = 180; works, so in theory I could just apply these angle values to the model.cfg we talked about earlier, right? Anyway, I’ve tried it and everything is working perfectly now—thanks.

[hearty sandal]

no in model.cfg the values are 360

this is for AI to be able to use them right

the config.cpp limits will block it from turning further

[sullen fulcrum]

OK, I’ll set all the turrets to 360. I have another question: what exactly do the parameters in class ViewOptics inside class Turrets affect? No matter how I change these parameters, the turret’s optical sight always follows the turret’s rotation (because I assigned the memoryPointGunnerOptics point in the Memory LOD to the turret’s group). It seems like it’s not affected by the class ViewOptics parameters at all.

[hearty sandal]

if you have attached it to the guns parts then it moves with those

if you want it to move on its own you can do that with independent optics animations

and not have it as part of the turrets or guns selections

separately animating view/optics usually results in aiming problems though

for player

[sullen fulcrum]

Alright, I think I understand now, thank you. I can’t help but be curious — you seem to know every configuration property in detail. Where did you get this knowledge from? I can’t find any explanation of how some of these properties work on the wiki or anywhere else.

[sullen fulcrum]

Do you work for BI? You seem to be answering people’s questions 24 hours a day.

[hearty sandal]

I was recently hired. but I do this voluntarily when Im waiting for some action to process

Im not here 24/7 though 😛

[sullen fulcrum]

Do BI’s community Q&A–related jobs allow remote work? If so, that would be a great job (especially for Armaholic).

[sullen fulcrum]

You guys must have an internal, non‑public wiki that records all the relevant configuration entries, right? Or do they just give you the Arma 3 code and let you figure out each configuration item yourself?

[hearty sandal]

no dont think there is such a thing.

@regal gate would have added that to the public wiki by now if there were would you not? 😄

[hearty sandal]

I do not know specifics on that, you would have to reach out to the recruitment team

[regal gate]

ye, unfortunately documentation is scarce and I am not aware of some "must-have intel goldmine"
now if you need details about some specifics @sullen fulcrum, we may dig in that specific direction 🙂

[hearty sandal]

⛏️
🧠
🐐

[regal gate]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-smile-gif-1974600105454603239

[sullen fulcrum]

Let me guess — the engine development team must know the purpose of every single configuration entry, but since they’re working on the new engine, they wouldn’t have time to answer community questions. So whenever there’s something you don’t know, you just email them, which ensures you can understand the meaning of every configuration entry, right?

[livid thorn]

At this point nobody knows exactly what each possible config entry does tbh, the collective community here in this channel + the wiki is the best we have

• a few of us can peek into the code if someone asks for a specific config entry's purpose that nobody else knows

[sullen fulcrum]

I’m really curious about your attitude toward Arma 3. People say you’re going to develop Arma 4 with a focus on PvP, because right now games like Squad and other milsim titles are hugely popular. Looking at Reforger, it also seems more PvP-oriented, with basically nothing much for single-player. Is that the case?

[livid thorn]

off-topic for this channel, also don't personally work on A4 and if I did I wouldn't be able to say anything about it anyway :D

[sullen fulcrum]

Alright, back to A3 — have you guys ever considered overhauling the Arma 3 engine? I think just modifying the lighting would be enough — the other mechanics shouldn’t be touched. I’ve noticed that Dedmen might be trying to work on something in this area. Although he hasn’t done a lot yet, is he reading the Arma 3 source code and planning to restructure the engine? I’ve heard the engine has around a million lines of code, so a full rewrite is definitely unrealistic, but only refactoring part of it — for example, the lighting-related parts, like adding dynamic emissive lighting effects to particles — should still be feasible, right?

[livid thorn]

off-topic for this channel
Still off-topic, try #arma3_questions
This channel is for config related stuff

[sullen fulcrum]

fine

[hearty sandal]

yeah this is not general AMA about arma3 or 4. and such topics are not really answerable anyway.

you are about 5+ years late for new ideas

[sullen fulcrum]

Well, it can’t be helped — I’ve only been an Arma 3 addict since earlier this year.

[sullen fulcrum]

But if I could get the source code, I think I’d want to make some modifications. 🙂

[hearty sandal]

no

thanks for the interest

but no

[sullen fulcrum]

I know, because BI is afraid someone might modify it and use it commercially, right? But if you became a BI employee (so BI would know exactly where to sue that person), then it shouldn’t be a problem, right?

[hearty sandal]

no its not quite that simple.

so lets put the topic back on track with the channel

[unkempt helm]

Probably not the right place as per usual but I've been trying to add a new mortar and hit a wall, currently I have two issues and can't seem to find anything online how to fix; if anyone could help that'll be great:

• Crew members do not show when they enter the mortar
• No matter how you adjust the angle the mortar always fires in the same place

[hearty sandal]

Crew to show up you need appropriate crew proxies

Gunner type is normally used for turret gunners

For the fire position you need to define the gun beg and end points in config and have corresponding points in memory lod of the model

And those point will need to be part of the gun selection to move with it

[unkempt helm]

Currently for the proxies I have:

• proxy:gunner.000
• proxy:cargo.001

I've defined the gun beg & gun end inside the config and do indeed have the corresponding points in the memory. They are both linked to the otochlaven & otocvez selections which are connected to the relevant parts of the model itself.

Strangely the effects of firing (the smoke and dust effect) appear where they should do regardless of where the barrel is facing, the shells however only ever fire in a straight line (only effected by the up and down movements)

[hearty sandal]

Typo for the points maybe. The names can be anything as long as config in turret class and in p3d match

Note, gunbeg/end in turret in the cfg Vehicles,not in the weapon class in cgWeapons

[unkempt helm]

Do the proxies need to be defined inside the config?

Like the gunner and cargo ones

[hearty sandal]

If you inherit then from the base game classes then no you should get those default names

[tame raven]

When I spawn vehicle with "FLY", is there a config defined height that it spawns at, or is it all the same?

Related, is there a config parameter for how quickly a helicopter spools up and is able to lift?

[faint spruce]

Is it normal that CompartmentLights goes dark with depth when normal lightsource doesn't ?

I made submarines and i would like to be able to reach 600-800m depth. The problem is when you reach around 400m, CompartmentLights start progressively to dissapear with depth. But if i spawn a normal lightsource, the normal lightsource doesn't go dark over 400m. Unfortunately there is no way to limit a normal lightsource to a vehicle compartment, the normal lightsource shines thought the vehicle and is visible from far away...

So yes i could still create a normal lightsource locally, but this is not very aesthetic

I'm thinking about creating a ticket for this issue but i'd like to be sure there is no other solution first

[hearty sandal]

I think the default is 100 meters

you probably want to do some setpossing to give proper height

[tame raven]

And that's hard coded for all of em, right?

[tacit zealot]

Is there a way to remove camera shake from a vehicle's driver action type?
driverAction = "pilot_plane_cas_01";

[hearty sandal]

I think so. We ran into a problem with warlords ported on cam lao nam and planes spawning in at height that didn't always get them a chance to correct to higher altitudes

The spawn script being made for entry from sea surrounding an island

[sick bluff]

Anyone can help me. I can't see scope in ace arsenal. I used arma 3 sample's test scope config and only changed displayName, model, picture, disabled one of the opticModes and added scope property under ItemInfo class.

https://pastebin.com/1HYb4BfJ

[wintry tartan]

Your weapon in question is not compatible with your scope

[wheat sluice]

The config you posted is only for the optic itself (Test_scope3D_01). That config alone will not make it usable on any weapon until you add it to one of the global attachment classes.
e.g.

class CowsSlot;
class CowsSlot_Rail: CowsSlot
{
    class compatibleItems
    {
        Test_scope3D_01 = 1;
    };
};

[sick bluff]

is there a shortcut to add almost all of the rifles which has rail?

[wheat sluice]

Use that same code block I provided above to include your optic to the pool. CowsSlot_Rail is used by almost every vanilla weapon and mods like CBA's Joint Rails inherit from it, so most modded weapons with Picatinny/Weaver rails will also support it.

Keep in mind that CowsSlot and CowsSlot_Rail exist in global space. So don't put these classes under CfgWeapons or anything else.

[sick bluff]

Fixed it but there is one more problem. I can't right click when I equip the scope

https://pastebin.com/jbeQVuR0

[wheat sluice]

Issue is caused by the value you defined under memoryPointCamera = "opticview";.
Is opticview actually defined in your model's Memory LOD? There shouldn't be anything else other than the memory point in that LOD (plus any other extra memory points if you have alternate scope views). If you defined the memory point in the resolution LODs, it won't work.
https://i.imgur.com/lsU0VEj.png

[mortal pumice]

Is it just the mass of a walls geometry lod that defines if it can be knocked over? i.e. if a car weighs more than it, it can knock it over?
(I know about the damage type, im inheriting from wall_f and on the geo lod I have damage = wall)

[sullen fulcrum]

In the firing mode subclass of the CfgWeapons class, I set
begin1[] = {"TT_Yamato\sound\460mm_fire_sound.ogg", 3, 1, 4000};
soundBegin[] = {"begin1", 1};
I want to change the firing sound, but it doesn’t work. Why is that?

[sick bluff]

@wheat sluice

[lean bloom]

Empty modelOptics?

[sick bluff]

Worked! I didn't know what was it for becase I just copied sample scopes config and it was empty.

[lean bloom]

It basically displays the overlay of the optics when you rmb

[sick bluff]

Thanks

[median orchid]

~~Does lockCargo[] = {2,3,4,5}; actually work in AnimationSources, has anyone had any luck with it? I can't tell if I'm just messing up indexes, or its just plain broken.

Maybe a mod conflict, but even when removing benches from a vanilla littlebird B_Heli_Light_01_F, I continue to have the option to sit in the benches.~~

edit: I was infact just selecting the wrong index and didnt have lockCargoAnimationPhase set.

[amber nacelle]

Hello, can there be some kind of optic angle multiplier somewhere in the config files? I'm using the sample T72 to implement my first tank and even by default, the gunner optic seems to depress/elevate (roughly) twice as much as the actual gun. So when I increased the gun elevation (SPAA) and elevate the guns ingame, my optic goes all the way upside down

Interestingly, the commander optic/HMG doesn't seem to have this issue

[hearty sandal]

Do you have the gunner memory points tied to the gun animations and also animated separately. That could explain the extra animation

[amber nacelle]

I'm honestly unsure. All I've done is move the optic location and axis of the guns.

I think t's something in the sample itself, because even when I take the p3d, CfgVehicles and model.cfg from the Sample directory, which I've not touched, it behaves like that.

[hearty sandal]

This is possible. The samples are little bit outdated

[amber nacelle]

I think I might have it. Compared to some other mod I'm using to learn this stuff, the sample Memory LOD is missing otochlaven_axis

This is what I mean, btw. Unmodified sample, the gun is not aiming as high as the optic.

[amber nacelle]

Nope, that wasn't it.

[sullen fulcrum]

"In the firing mode subclass of the CfgWeapons class, I set
begin1[] = {"TT_Yamato\sound\460mm_fire_sound.ogg", 3, 1, 4000};
soundBegin[] = {"begin1", 1};
I want to change the firing sound, but it doesn’t work. Why is that?" Please answer. 🙏

[hearty sandal]

I don't know off the top of my head.

Also since I now remember this is that Yamato with ripped model I'll have to ask you to stop asking help with it.

We have 0 tolerance on ripping and IP theft here.

[sullen fulcrum]

Well, I hope AI can replace the position of 3D modeler as soon as possible.

[hearty sandal]

It is a learnable skill.

Someone made that model you got too. But then someone also stole it and thought it's ok to share it.

When you invest the time to learn how to make stuff, you'll start to understand the importance of the rights of the maker.

[hearty sandal]

You saying this really makes me want to show you the door

For the utter disrespect for people who make things

[amber nacelle]

I think this was it. I'm not sure if I understand what you said, but what was causing the issue was this bit of code at the bottom

[hearty sandal]

these are the turrets movement animations yes.

On top of these there might be additional animations for the optics.

[amber nacelle]

I honestly can't think of any vehicle I've ever used that has optics animated separately like this 🤔

Either way, thank you for your time and advice and trust, I'll be back soon, if I can't get the radar to work 😅

[sullen fulcrum]

I think I have found the right channel, and might, finally, have an idea that needs some review.

I am working on a RP server. We have shops to purchase vehicles, uniforms, headgear, items etc. I want to add makeup to the female avatars as an option to buy. The makeup would have to be on the unit, to keep animation. I know a lot of this boils down to scripting, but on the config end I know a unit is under vehicle cfg, and I get the difference between the man and land vehicle variables.

If I make it so you can purchase the avatar like any other item, would the config allow the base character to be changed, and saved in our DB? Just need to know if it would be worth trying, because I would have to script the shops to recognize the unit as inventory. I think I can handle that part. Just curious about how the config end would make or break that. I might have to try it if nobody really knows. Would be cool.

[hearty sandal]

The question is bit hard to understand but if I understood it right,then no you can't change the configs contents on the fly. If you need to use different class of a unit then you need to spawn a new unit that the player takes control of.

Usually swapping unit skin/looks is done through identity setups. But since you mention custom characters it probably depends how well they are made.

[sullen fulcrum]

What does identity swapping entail? I am not going to make a new buy/sell system, so it might not work with our current shop framework. No worries either way, the spawning catch makes perfect sense.

[hearty sandal]

Unit model set up and configured for identities and scripting commands to set that in live game

[sullen fulcrum]

Gotcha, know exactly how that would work. Not within our scope, need that energy elsewhere in our project. Thanks for the quick reply, and all the work keeping the place clean 🍻

[devout plume]

bit of a noob question, but is it possible to make a mod to replace a unit's loadout from a different mod with my own selected loadout?

I'm using the Russian soldiers from the Aegis mod, but I wanted to replace their camo and rifles with ones from a different mod. I heard it's possible with a patch? how would I make one

[wintry tartan]

Yes

Literally same process with making a Mod to alter a vanilla content

[fast ruin]

what do I need to edit for an inventory objects weight?

[pastel fog]

The mass attribute in ItemInfo for the object
You just need to have the right class for ItemInfo to inherit from

[fast ruin]

can you go lower than 1?

class ArkMed_Bioseal: OPTRE_Biofoam
{
    mass = 1;
    displayName = "ArkMed Bioseal";
    picture = "\7thFleetItems\7thFleetMedical\ArkMed.paa";
    UiPicture = "\7thFleetItems\7thFleetMedical\ArkMed.paa";
};```

[wintry tartan]

No

Something like thiscpp class NVGoggles: Binocular { class ItemInfo: ItemInfo { mass=20; }; };

And mass can be 0, maybe minus

Just try

[quartz rampart]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Vehicle_Customisation
I have a vehicle that has multiple different textureSources. Does anyone know if I can change the rvmat per textureSource as you switch from one to the other if some had textures with different heightmaps for example? The Biki does not mention anything about that

[wintry tartan]

materials[] is mentioned in that article

RVMATs cannot handle heightmap

[pastel fog]

Negative mass does sort of work. It was weird when I tested it, but no crashes and I think it removed the mass properly
You'll have to test it anyways

[fast ruin]

@wintry tartan @pastel fog getting the error Bad Vehicle Type

{
    class ItemInfo;
class OPTRE_Biofoam;
class ArkMed_Bioseal: OPTRE_Biofoam
{
    displayName = "ArkMed Bioseal";
    picture = "\7thFleetItems\7thFleetMedical\ArkMed.paa";
    UiPicture = "\7thFleetItems\7thFleetMedical\ArkMed.paa";
    class ItemInfo: ItemInfo
    {
        mass = 1;
    };
};
class OPTRE_Medigel;
class ArkMed_Biogel: OPTRE_Medigel
{
    displayName = "ArkMed Biogel";
    picture = "\7thFleetItems\7thFleetMedical\ArkMed.paa";
    UiPicture = "\7thFleetItems\7thFleetMedical\ArkMed.paa";
    class ItemInfo: ItemInfo
    {
        mass = 1;
    };
};
};```

[wintry fox]

There is no ItemInfo class in CfgWeapons itself, you're inheriting from nothing

[fast ruin]

Ah okay

[wintry fox]

That doesn't cause a bad vehicle type error though, because those aren't objects

The issue is coming from something else

[modern gale]

dose some one is a pilot for close air suport and hase any good cutom keybines that make is nicer to fly

[wintry fox]

Keybinds for what

[devout plume]

If i'm not adding any new classes or weapons -- merely replacing the equipment of a unit added in another mod -- do i have to define anything in Units =[], or can i leave it blank?

[wintry fox]

You only need to add new classes you define

[devout plume]

Once i'm done making a mod and I want to sign it, what am i meant to select with DSUtils? The .pbo file? the "@mod/addons" folder, or "@mods" itself?

and once i've signed it, i just make a new folder for "@mod/keys" and put the .bisign there and nothing else?

[devout plume]

huh...I'm receiving an error saying I've not defined "O_R_Soldier_AAA_F", even though it's right there in my script

    {
        linkedItems[]=
        {
            "Aegis_V_OCarrierLuchnik_lite_F",
            "H_HelmetLuchnik_cover_rutaiga_F",
            "ItemGPS",
            "ItemMap",
            "ItemCompass",
            "ItemWatch",
            "ItemRadio",
            "Aegis_Goggles_Cover_grn_F"
        };
        respawnLinkedItems[]=
        {
            "Aegis_V_OCarrierLuchnik_lite_F",
            "H_HelmetLuchnik_cover_rutaiga_F",
            "ItemGPS",
            "ItemMap",
            "ItemCompass",
            "ItemWatch",
            "ItemRadio",
            "Aegis_Goggles_Cover_grn_F"
        };
    };
class O_R_Soldier_AAA_ard_F: O_R_Soldier_AAA_F
    {
        uniformClass="Aegis_U_O_Luchnik_arid_F";
        linkedItems[]=
        {
            "Aegis_V_OCarrierLuchnik_lite_arid_F",
            "H_HelmetLuchnik_cover_ruarid_F",
            "ItemGPS",
            "ItemMap",
            "ItemCompass",
            "ItemWatch",
            "ItemRadio",
            "Aegis_Goggles_Cover_F"
        };
        respawnLinkedItems[]=
        {
            "Aegis_V_OCarrierLuchnik_lite_arid_F",
            "H_HelmetLuchnik_cover_ruarid_F",
            "ItemGPS",
            "ItemMap",
            "ItemCompass",
            "ItemWatch",
            "ItemRadio",
            "Aegis_Goggles_Cover_F"
        };
    };

[wintry fox]

You're not referencing where O_R_Soldier_Base_F comes from. I.e. you're missing class O_R_Soldier_Base_F;

You need to reference a class before you can inherit from it

[devout plume]

which is odd, because I did reference O_R_Soldier_Base_F too

To be specific, I did it like so

{
    class O_R_Man_Base_F;
    class O_R_Soldier_Base_F: O_R_Man_Base_F
    {
        uniformClass="Aegis_U_O_Luchnik_taiga_F";
    };
    class O_R_Soldier_F: O_R_Soldier_Base_F
    {
        linkedItems[]=
        {
            "Aegis_V_OCarrierLuchnik_lite_F",
            "H_HelmetLuchnik_cover_rutaiga_F",
            "ItemGPS",
            "ItemMap",
            "ItemCompass",
            "ItemWatch",
            "ItemRadio",
            "Aegis_Goggles_Cover_grn_F"
        };
        respawnLinkedItems[]=
        {
            "Aegis_V_OCarrierLuchnik_lite_F",
            "H_HelmetLuchnik_cover_rutaiga_F",
            "ItemGPS",
            "ItemMap",
            "ItemCompass",
            "ItemWatch",
            "ItemRadio",
            "Aegis_Goggles_Cover_grn_F"
        };
    };

I'll admit up front that I've never done a replacement mod before, so i'm sorta copying how another mod did it before me, and they also defined replacements by creating a blank O_R_Man_Base_F Class, and continually expanding/inheriting from it. For whatever reason that one works, but mine throws an error

[wintry tartan]

You sure O_R_Soldier_AAA_F is defined before O_R_Soldier_AAA_ard_F?

[devout plume]

Yeah, O_R_Soldier_AAA_F is on line 193, and O_R_Soldier_AAA_arid_F is line 1243 lmao

[wintry tartan]

Post the entire config

[wintry tartan]

Line 1241 wrong bracket

[devout plume]

bruuuuuh

good find, thank you!

[wintry tartan]

Which software you use to write config

[devout plume]

visual studio code

[wintry tartan]

You use a syntax highlighter?

[devout plume]

...is it bad to say i'm not sure what that is?

i'm not really a coder, sorry

[wintry tartan]

If your entire text is either white or black, that's no good

You better to install one so you can tell the bracket is going crazy or not

[devout plume]

this is what my view looks like currently, so

[wintry tartan]

Well, you can barely tell the bracket mismatch, but you learnt one possible issue

[pliant nova]

anyone know how to call a different skybox? im trying to do a halo campaign and theres only 4 halo maps and i want to just be able to change the skybox to say that we are on halo

[wintry tartan]

If you have a working example already, check ingame config

[clever creek]

Making NVGs with acex options is one of the most difficult things to config in this game. Its pretty ridiculous I have to make 20 different models just for wire setups becuase my hidden selections just dont wanna work.

[wintry fox]

You can use hiddenSelections on nvgs just fine. Are you defining the selections in the ItemInfo and the class itself?

[clever creek]

Yeah I am. I think I just have too many selections its causing breaks. There's like 12 in total

[wintry fox]

Shouldn't be any limit, I've seen more on a model

[nimble sequoia]

Are you using hiddenSelections to actually hide model parts or just change their texture as is their intended use?

[clever creek]

Both

[nimble sequoia]

As you're using it to hide mesh, you should probably expect problems. Use hide animations instead or separate models.

[clever creek]

What is a hide animation

[nimble sequoia]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Model_Config
Animation type: hide

[clever creek]

How does that work if I need to hide multiple selections on multiple models?

[hearty sandal]

It does not

You are in the too many variations zone

[amber nacelle]

Hello, is the gun depression when looking over the elevated engine deck of a vehicle handled in config.cpp, model.cfg or somewhere else? 🤔

[hearty sandal]

not quite sure what you mean

like how far gun can turn?

[amber nacelle]

As in when I'm aiming to the front in an Abrams, I can depress the gun. When I turn the turret to the back, the gun automatically elevates so it doesn't clip into the engine deck.

[hearty sandal]

ah the limits

that is config.cpp thing

[amber nacelle]

Thanks, I'll go look around for it 😄

Found it.

[amber nacelle]

For any future references for someone.
In config.cpp, it should be defined in the section of the turret (on the same level as weapons[] or minElev).
Here is a sample code for limiting the depression of the gunner's turret when turned in.

{
    limitsArrayTop[]=
    {
        {85,-180},
        {85,180}
    };
    limitsArrayBottom[]=
    {
        {0.9,-180},
        {0.4,-161},
        {-0.3,-150},
        {-8.3,-145},
        {-15,-120},
        {-15,0},
        {-15,120},
        {-8.7,138},
        {-0.7,150},
        {0.4,161},
        {0.9,180}
    };
};```
- first number in the brackets is the gun depression, the second number is the turret rotation
- if the limited turret should be a machine gun used when turned out, the class needs to be called *TurnOut*
- in my very limited testing, *limitsArrayTop* needs to be defined even if you don't want to limit the gun elevation
- it appears to work in a way where the game calculates lines between the defined points and won't let your gun depress below those lines, thus it's good to define the last points at which the turret depression shouldn't be limited - which in my case is {-15,-120} and {-15,120}
- negative turret rotation angles mean rotation to the right

Tags: tank gun depression, tank gun elevation, engine deck, rear

[nimble sequoia]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/diag_recordTurretLimits

[amber nacelle]

I found that you can also get turret rotation with
deg (vehicle player animationSourcePhase "mainturret");
and current gun depression in-game with deg (vehicle player animationSourcePhase "maingun");
Wiki: https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/animationSourcePhase

[wet pike]

Looking at CfgVehicleIcons, I can see that's where you define the file path - but how does one go about assigning the file path to a newly named icon?

[wintry fox]

The property name
In CfgVehicleIcons
YourPrefix_vehicleName = "..."

In CfgVehicles
icon = "YourPrefix_vehicleName"

[wet pike]

Ah, so if I create;

iconDart="\test\data\icons\iconDart_ca.paa";

That can just be slotted in without issue? Excellent. Wasn't sure if that was the limitation.

[wintry fox]

Yes, CfgVehicleIcons is basically intended for shorthand for repeated icons. Saves you the trouble of having to copy/paste a bunch of file paths for

class CfgVehicleIcons {
    YourPrefix_yourVehicle = "path\to\icon_ca.paa";
};

class CfgVehicles {
    class YourPrefix_yourVehicle {
        icon = "YourPrefix_yourVehicle";
    };
};

Discord's been weird, have been trying to send that for a bit

[wet pike]

Yeah, the Guilds service went down and it wiped out the whole platform. Stellar design on Discord's part there.

Think I understand. Will give that a try tomorrow to see how it goes.

[fast ruin]

class B_Heli_Transport_04_repair_7FA_X_Fv1: B_Heli_Transport_04_repair_7FA_X_F
{
  class Turrets;
};
class B_Heli_Transport_04_repair_7FA_X_Fv2: B_Heli_Transport_04_repair_7FA_X_Fv1
{
  class Turrets: Turrets
        {
            class CopilotTurret;
            class LoadmasterTurret;
    };
};
class B_Heli_Transport_04_repair_5thAC_L_F: B_Heli_Transport_04_repair_7FA_X_Fv2
{
        faction = "TKE_5thAC_L";
        scope = 2;
        crew = "5thAC_L_Pilot";
        textureList[] = {"7FA_L",1,"7FA_W",0,"7FA_C",0,"7FA_A",0};
        hiddenSelectionsTextures[] = {"\7FA_Vehicles\Textures\Heli_Transport_04_Base_01_7FA_L_CO.paa","\7FA_Vehicles\Textures\Heli_Transport_04_Base_02_7FA_L_CO.paa","\7FA_Vehicles\Textures\Heli_Transport_04_Pod_Ext01_7FA_L_CO.paa","\7FA_Vehicles\Textures\Heli_Transport_04_Pod_Ext02_7FA_L_CO.paa"};
    class Turrets: Turrets
        {
            class CopilotTurret: CopilotTurret{};
            class LoadmasterTurret: LoadmasterTurret
            {
                gunnerType = "5thAC_L_Pilot";
            };
        };
};``` for some reason this config isn't showing the loadmaster. Without defining the turrets, it was occupied by the default CSAT pilot, but now it's occupied by nobody.

[toxic solar]

I am having a bit of a hard time understanding this simple expression

(rpm factor [600,700]) * (rpm factor [2800,1100])

so if rpm = 600, then its 0
if rpm is 700 then its 1

if rpm is at 2800 it means 1 since its reversed? and then 1100 its at 0?

so if rpm is below 600, it evals to 0, between 700 and 1100 its 0? and so between 1100 and 2800 it goes from 0 to 1?

[chilly tulip]

rpm factor [2800,1100] is 0 at >=2800 and 1 at <=1100

So the result of the whole formula would be 0 at <=600, 1 from 700 to 1100, and then falling gradually to 0 at 2800.

could use rpm envelope [600,700,1100,2800] instead since 1.67.

[toxic solar]

ah okay, now next question, so the input rpm, whats the wiki page for all the possible inputs? would it be this? https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/getAllSoundControllers

[toxic solar]

ah okay that might be easier to remember

[buoyant sonnet]

Anyone knows how to put one addon's attachment to others? Like Mags, sights(usually CBA works so maybe pass this), Laser/Light attachment, Bipod
For magazine, I used to look for its ID and write down everything in there but it is indeed boring work and painful if you're having 50 guns to edit.... and someone told me there is a easy way
Of course he didn't tell me how to X(

[wintry tartan]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Weapon_Config_Guidelines
This covers both

[buoyant sonnet]

This gonna take a long time but I will try!

[wheat sluice]

With regards to magazines, look specifically at the section concerning Magazine compatibility groups.

For attachments, that BIKI article is...a little outdated unfortunately. The new standard is to include your custom attachment(s) to the new x_Rail global classes, not CowsSlot/PointerSlot/MuzzleSlot as shown in the article.
e.g.

class CowsSlot;
class CowsSlot_Rail: CowsSlot
{
    class compatibleItems
    {
        myCustomOpticalSightAttachment = 1;
    };
};

class MuzzleSlot;
class MuzzleSlot_556: MuzzleSlot
{
    class compatibleItems
    {
        myCustom556mmSuppressorAttachment = 1;
    };
};

class PointerSlot;
class PointerSlot_Rail: PointerSlot
{
    class compatibleItems
    {
        myCustomLaserPointerAttachment = 1;
    };
};

class UnderBarrelSlot;
class UnderBarrelSlot_rail: UnderBarrelSlot
{
    class compatibleItems
    {
        myCustomBipodAttachment = 1;
    };
};

[buoyant sonnet]

So I see the magazinewell part, I think that's the key of mags
So question is, can I just write this on separate place and make it PBO, and will it still work?
Maybe I should search for compat addons to see how the thing works

[hearty sandal]

the modding experience in a nutshell

[buoyant sonnet]

🤣

[wheat sluice]

So long as you have a CfgPatches properly defined for your PBO, then yes, it will work anywhere.

class CfgPatches
{
    class Dan0520_MyCustomAddon
    {
        author = "Dan0520";
        name = "My First Addon";
        requiredAddons[] = 
        {
            "A3_Data_F_Decade_Loadorder"
        };
        requiredVersion = 0.1;
        units[] = {};
        weapons[] = {};
    };
};

class CowsSlot;
class CowsSlot_Rail: CowsSlot
{
    class compatibleItems
    {
        myCustomOpticalSightAttachment = 1;
    };
};

^ Once you've packed this config into a PBO, something as basic as this will work straight out of the box.
myCustomOpticalSightAttachment will be defined either within this same config or is from another addon, in which case you will need to include the name of that addon's CfgPatches into the requiredAddons[] array.

[buoyant sonnet]

wish I had more experience to understand correctly. Let's read....

so I gotta define the gun specifically still, but I can just paste the other addons' attachment on myCustomOpticalSightAttachment?

class will be their ammotype(example : STANAG_556x45), then I just like, shove every ammo that should fits(or if you crazy just put anything) in mags... okay, I think I'm getting somewhere on mags
Another attachment is kinda far away but still

so if I just use class cfgMagazineWells, without signing cfgweapons, etc, it still works like a charm, right?

[wheat sluice]

Yep. That was the intended purposes of magazine wells being introduced, so that you can avoid the need to define what magazines can be used per weapon.

Any weapon that has this defined (magazineWells[] = {"STANAG_556x45"};) will automatically get access to the magazine that you added.

Attachments work in a similar way. If the weapon's optics slots (WeaponsSlotsInfo >> CowsSlot) inherits from the global class (CowsSlot_Rail), then that weapon will get access to whatever optics attachments that you define in compatibleItems.

[wheat sluice]

myCustomOpticalSightAttachment is just the name of whatever your custom attachment's classname is. Anything that you list under the compatibleItems property will be usable on weapons that inherit from CowsSlot_Rail.
e.g.

class CowsSlot;
class CowsSlot_Rail: CowsSlot
{
    class compatibleItems
    {
        Dan0520_optic_MyRiflescope = 1;
        optic_Hamr = 0;
    };
};
class CfgWeapons
{
    class Rifle;
    class MyCustomRifleWeapon: Rifle
    {
        class WeaponSlotsInfo
        {
            class CowsSlot: CowsSlot_Rail
            {
                // This weapon gets access to whatever is listed in CowsSlot_Rail
            };
        };
    };
};

^ in this example, any weapon that inherits from CowsSlot_Rail will get access to your custom attachment (Dan0520_optic_MyRiflescope).
At the same time, it will disable the vanilla RCO scope (optic_Hamr) from being usable on any weapon that inherits from CowsSlot_Rail.
(= 1; means enables the attachment and = 0; equates to disabling the attachment from being usable)

Just remember that CowsSlot_Rail in this context is a global class. It doesn't exist inside CfgWeapons, but CfgWeapons can inherit from it.

[buoyant sonnet]

cowsslot first, then cfgweapon.... well

so the optics, I need to find their ID and make it = 1;, right?

or am I just able to make it for like, apply on every railed gun?

[hearty sandal]

if your optic is compatible with the attachment slot then all guns that are compatible with that attachment slot can use the optic

[buoyant sonnet]

Oh it won't be mine, just you know, put someone's attachment to other guys gun-type thing

[wintry tartan]

It doesn't matter

[hearty sandal]

well if the weapon is not compatible with the slot then you need to edit its config too

there is no 1 stop universal way to get all guns have all attachments

[buoyant sonnet]

I mean if I know the attachment's ID and put on there, it should be work, right?

[hearty sandal]

and some weapons might not be able to have attachments at all if they are not originally made for that

[buoyant sonnet]

oh I won't expect that to work, don't worry

[wheat sluice]

Yes. Like I showed in the example, if a weapon's slots inherit from CowsSlot_Rail, then they will get access to your specified attachment automatically.

You won't need to tweak anything on the weapon itself unless the weapon wasn't set up to inherit rails to begin with.

Issues like that can be remedied with a replacement patch but it's out of scope (no pun intended) for what you're trying to do right now.

[tired axle]

I'm looking for a solution to the problem that the settings for group indicators and friendly name tags are active on the dedicated server, but I don't want them to be displayed. Therefore, I created a mod in which I adjust the cursor class in the CfgIngameUi so that neither the group icons nor the friendly name tags are displayed. The only problem with my solution is that the distance to the waypoints is no longer displayed either. Does anyone know of a better solution (apart from changing the difficulty settings on the dedicated server, which won't happen)

class CfgInGameUI
{
    class Cursor
    {
        size="(((((safezoneW/safezoneH)min 1.2)/1.2)/25)*0)";
        select="\A3\ui_f\data\IGUI\Cfg\Targeting\Empty_ca.paa";
        leader="\A3\ui_f\data\IGUI\Cfg\Targeting\Empty_ca.paa";
    };
};

Edit 2025-09-11: i think i found a better solution for hiding the Friendly Name Tags. Instead of using size 0 for Cursor i better use

class SideColors
{
    colorFriendly[]={0,0,0,0};
};

with this class i can change/hide the color of the Friendly Name Tags

[amber nacelle]

Hello, I just noticed that my gunner and commander proxies for when the crew members are turned out don't rotate with the turret. When I replace my p3d with the default sample T-72, they rotate normally, so it appears to be something wrong with my model.
Please, any ideas what I'm missing? 🤔

[hearty sandal]

the proxies need to be part of the animated selection for the turret

[amber nacelle]

Not quite sure what you mean. Do you perhaps mean assigning them the "otocvez" vertex group in Blender?

Or is it something that needs to be done in Object Builder?

I may or may not have forgotten to assign the vertex groups to the vertices of the proxys after creating them.

It's working now

Thank you for your time

[jagged basin]

Hello,

I have a doubt about model.cfg and radar altimeter indicator in a helicopter

I'm trying to figure out if it is possible to have an radar altimeter indicator that is not lineal, has two phases, first 90º represents 100 feet, second 90º represents from 100 feet to 500 feet. like this one on the picture:

same needed for vertical speed

[hearty sandal]

yes

[jagged basin]

and how can you indicate the value for each phase on the code ?

[hearty sandal]

lets say animation plays between from 0 to 1

[jagged basin]

yep

[hearty sandal]

from 0 to 0.3 you can rotate needle 90 deg

then freom 0.3 to 0.5 you can rotate it 20 deg with second animation

and third animation from 0.5 to 1.0 can rotate it -200 deg if you like

[jagged basin]

so, I just have to create several class animations with the diferent angles for each phase..

[hearty sandal]

yes

[jagged basin]

something like this ?

        class RadioAltimetro500P_0_to_100_R
        {
            type = "rotation";
            source = "altRadar";
            axis = "RadioAltimetro500P_1_osa";
            memory = "true";
            minValue = 0;
            maxValue = 30.48; // 100 feet
            angle0 = "rad 90";
            angle1 = "rad 0";
            selection = "RadioAltimetro500P_1";
        };

        class RadioAltimetro500P_100_to_500_R
        {
            type = "rotation";
            source = "altRadar";
            axis = "RadioAltimetro500P_1_osa";
            memory = "true";
            minValue = 30.48;
            maxValue = 152.4; // 500 feet
            angle0 = "rad 0";
            angle1 = "rad -90";
            selection = "RadioAltimetro500P_1";
        };

[mortal pumice]

In sounds_f in cfg sounds, the wind turbine sound is configured like so:

class CfgSounds
{
    class Windturbine
    {
        sound[] = {"\A3\Sounds_F\environment\structures\windturbine\windturbine",1.2589254,1.0,120,1,0.0,0.0,0.0};
        titles[] = {};
    };

I know the first bits in sound are:
Filename
Volume
Pitch
Max Distance

But what about the numbers after 120? anyone got any clue what they control?

[tired axle]

today i exported a actual all-in-one config with the arma3diag_x64.exe, if someone else need this then write me i can send you. i could also add the 7z files here in the channel if allowed

[pastel salmon]

Very very simple question?
What is the limit of specular? Thats the only way I could become this more metalic
that is a current .rvmat specualar of "90"

[hearty sandal]

not that simple question im afraid.

do you have real life reference photo for what you would like it to look like?

shiny metal?

[amber nacelle]

Unfortunately, I couldn't get it to work myself and thus have to once more put myself at your collective mercy.
Whilst I managed to get the radar to function as a sensor, in order to get it to spin I had to remove it from the OtocVez named selection, which now means it's detached from the turret and spins in place.

[nimble sequoia]

If you want a radar dish constantly spinning on top of a moveable turret (named otocvez)

"radar", "otocvez"```
Spin the radar using the time animation source and animate the turret in the normal way.

[amber nacelle]

Wait

Am I to understand that the skeletonBones array is made up of pairs?

[nimble sequoia]

yes

[amber nacelle]

fucking hell

Alright, thanks.

[nimble sequoia]

So in the example, otocvez does not follow another bone (or in effect, it just sits on top of the vehicle) and radar follows the movement of otocvez.

And of course, don't include the radar mesh in the otocvez selection.

[amber nacelle]

Yeah, I got that part right atleast 😅

Thank you, I'll get to it as soon as I finish playing with friends tonight 🙂

I'll have to start writing everyone down so I can put you in credits when I'm done 😄

[nimble sequoia]

Not credits, perhaps "thanks to". 😉

[amber nacelle]

That.

[amber nacelle]

It's working! 😁

[prime violet]

Hey fellas, I was wondering if it was possible to affect a vehicles crewmen with a CamShakeExplode (the explosion is by a round detonated near the vehicle)? Thanks for the help

[pastel salmon]

I dont do model from perspective. I just think about it and try to catch it that works most the times.
Otherwhise I otherload me with a topic or a theme. Then I think about.

Ive attached you my current result. It shows up that a bigger surface can reflect the light better.
I think that Ive also have to find some more ways to screw around the metalness and reflection point...
Is there a way to create some shiny spots like on the second picture?

[tired axle]

if anybody else is interested of change/hide Friendly Name Tags with a mod, you can in

class CfgInGameUI
{
    class SideColors
        {
            colorFriendly[]={1,0,1,1}; // for hiding use 0,0,0,0
        };
};

[hearty sandal]

chromatic shiny look is possible. but often may need its own rvmat for extra shiny parts and another for more rough/matte parts

for texture/material stuff #arma3_texture is the better channel though

you can seach the chat history for reference to gold. I think I've talked about such topic and shinyness before

[coral knoll]

Cant find any documenation on it, what does shadow=1 even do on cfgVehicle entries

[hearty sandal]

cant say it has come up before

might be nothing

[coral knoll]

I see

is there a way to disable shadows through config

[hearty sandal]

no

[coral knoll]

I see

shame

[hearty sandal]

at least never heard of any

why?

[coral knoll]

Model has what I assume to be a broken shadowLOD

Shadow is tearing and stretching, was hoping to just disable it

[hearty sandal]

not fix the model?

[coral knoll]

Not the model owner sadly

[hearty sandal]

ah

[coral knoll]

If I had the model I would slap the arma man onto it and call it a day lol

[hearty sandal]

then Id recommend ditching it

theres no point in using badly made assets

[coral knoll]

its a shame since the shadow is the only bad part of it

everything else is nice

[wintry fox]

Just report it to the mod maker if its an active mod

[hearty sandal]

chances are high that the author didnt make it either

[coral knoll]

Oh most likely not

[shell vessel]

did you change hiddenSelectionMaterials of the model?

[coral knoll]

No

I havent touched anything model or config related yet

[faint token]

good day y'all. does anyone know how to disable that slight camera shake during firing small arms?

[delicate cypress]

question about RVMATS, did a recent update perhaps break custom damage rvmats?

To elaborate, I didnt use the procedural texture but rather my own, and it used to work, but not anymore

what i mean is that in stage3, using a3\data_f\destruct\damage_metalsheet_mca.tga correctly displays the damage texture, but using my custom texture that used to work does not anymore

[wintry fox]

What's the path for your texture, exactly how you have it?

[delicate cypress]

texture = "Sparky_JSDF_overhaul_vehicles\Content\damage\sparky_type74_dmg_b_ca.paa";

which lines up with the actual texture. Because it used to work and now it doesnt, rvmat or config has not been changed

[wintry fox]

Have you verified the pbo prefix?

To make sure it's what you expect

[delicate cypress]

yes

[nimble sequoia]

shouldn't it be an mca in that stage?

[delicate cypress]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FzqKoA0WwAQJncK?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 well, the _ca worked before

also tried the _mca sufix and nothing changed

[hearty sandal]

suffix is not related to it applying but to how it gets converted to paa

do you have the damage materials listed in the damage array

[delicate cypress]

yes

as I said, I've not changed the config or the rvmat at all

[delicate cypress]

thats the materials working, but the pic's from 2023 lol

havent touched it since

[winter rain]

Is there a easy way to balance buildings armor?

Seems like armor value doesnt work global for all structures, it depends on its size and how much geometry you did and if i did armor value on bigger structures its going to be invincible for some type of shots and same values on smaller structures get damage.. its a bit frustrating to struggle around.. or is there any kind of way to setup a global value?

[pastel salmon]

I only know the config.cpp as possibility. But Im a amateur

** Hey there 😄 **
Im into doing my first multimaterial.rvmat

And I failed to 50%
My second texture wont apply on the UV like I need. Even if its on uvSource = "tex"
Im really sure its not the meshs UV. So I gues I will have to learn a bit about the topic.
But Im also wondering how I implement the ambient shader, because there is only one slot.
Do I need to bake a single map_as for the whole object?

thats the .rvmat:

Thats how it should look like.

[hearty sandal]

ambient stage is full model yes

[pastel salmon]

Okay. Ill gues its the same with the map_mask stage. (So Ill have to find a way to Bake the whole mesh or export an own .fbx for it)

Can you gues if my texture issue happened in the .rvmat or earlier?
Because Im quite sure its inside the .rvmat even if Ive received some unexplained texture diffrence from SubstancePainter to what the .paaConverter did
to my file.

[hearty sandal]

I dont know what we are looking at here.

this does not look correct for multimaterial though

[pastel salmon]

Midday break is over.
The pictures show the positioning of wood in the UV and the final texture wich should be used
sorry for late reply

That are those lines from the .rvmat

[hearty sandal]

but you have baked texture there

not a tiling/repeating texture

and small object like this would not use multimaterial anyway

multimaterial is meant for large objects that the repeating texture gives more detail on large surfaces

[pastel salmon]

Ive baked all textures in SubstancePainter
Thats _mask and _co maps

[hearty sandal]

yes thats not a thing for multimaterial

thats something you do for supershader

[pastel salmon]

Ouuu meeen

So lets reorintate things back to the supershader

[hearty sandal]

also again try to stay on the most relevant channels like #arma3_texture for texture and material related stuff

[pastel salmon]

I really need to take more care about the topics and when they switch during a conversation

[nimble sequoia]

this should go in #off-topic (joke) 😉

[mortal pumice]

I know there’s armorstructural idk if that is more of a global value

[lament sluice]

Is it possible to add to an array? Like with the None class in CfgGlasses. I'm thinking of adding another identityType, but would I have to overwrite it? Or does inheritance work here and I can just do something like identityTypes[]={"G_TRU_default",100}; and it would keep all the other ones?

[wintry fox]

Use +=, but it only works when the array is explicitly defined and not inherited iirc

[lament sluice]

Oh I see. Does it work the other way around too? Like delete for classes

-= something like this?

[wheat sluice]

Not in config unfortunately. AFAIK there's no way to remove specific elements or splice.
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Operators#Config_Operators
You'll just have to override the array if you want to get rid of specific identities.

[dapper path]

Good afternoon, can you tell me how to add the appearance of damage on the uniform (blood)? Is there an example of a config?

[nimble sequoia]

class Wounds {} in the man class
Arma 3 Samples on Steam
Arma 3 Samples\Addons\Test_Character_01\config.cpp

[faint token]

Hey, does anyone know why my evecVM code runs in "RscDisplayMainMenuBackground" but not in "RscDisplayMain"

class RscDisplayMainMenuBackground {
        onLoad="[] execVM 'TFI_Utility\functions\menuTheme.sqf'; [""onLoad"",_this,""RscDisplayMainMenuBackground"",'GUI'] call     (uinamespace getvariable 'BIS_fnc_initDisplay')";
    };

class RscDisplayMain: RscStandardDisplay {
    onLoad="[] execVM 'TFI_Utility\functions\menuTheme.sqf'; [""onLoad"",_this,""RscDisplayMainMenuBackground"",'GUI'] call     (uinamespace getvariable 'BIS_fnc_initDisplay')";
};

this is how i put it. I wanted to play some music inside that execVM in the main menu. and possibly overwrite arma's main menu theme.

[wintry tartan]

Are you sure it is not running at all?

[faint token]

I don't understand.

[wintry tartan]

Don't understand what? My post?

[faint token]

Yes i mean i didn't get your point.

[wintry tartan]

My point is are you sure your script is actually running or not

Is it not happening at all because it is not running or it is running but overwritten by some script

[faint token]

yes it actually play music as it is intended under RscDisplayMainMenuBackground. but the

onLoad="[] execVM 'TFI_Utility\functions\menuTheme.sqf';[""onLoad"",_this,""RscDisplayMain"",'GUI'] call     (uinamespace getvariable 'BIS_fnc_initDisplay')";

doesn't work when i put in in "onLoad" EH of RscDisplayMain

this is the code itself:

// menu theme.sqf
0 fadeEnvironment 0;
0 fadeSound 0;
0 fadeMusic 1;
clearRadio;
playMusic "test_music";
sleep 5;
0 fadeEnvironment 0;
0 fadeSound 0;
addMusicEventHandler ["MusicStop", {
    playMusic "test_music";
}];

[wintry tartan]

That's not the point/answer I intended

Did you made it sure the script is actually running, using some obvious script like systemChat or hint

[faint token]

yes i tested that with systemChat and it did not return anything.

[wintry tartan]

Okay, then are you sure your config is actually applied to RscDisplayMain in-game?

[faint token]

yes and i did some changes to the code, and still nothing.

///menuTheme.sqf
systemChat "start......";
waituntil {
    _camera = (allmissionobjects "camera") param [0,objnull];
    time > TIMEOUT || {!isnull _camera && {camPreloaded _camera}}
};
sleep 1;
0 fadeEnvironment 0;
0 fadeSound 0;
0 fadeMusic 1;
clearRadio;
systemChat str _this;
playMusic "test_music";
addMusicEventHandler ["MusicStop", {
    playMusic "test_music";
}];

[faint token]

_this call compile preprocessFileLineNumbers 'TFI_Utility\functions\menuTheme.sqf';

didn't work either.

[faint token]

this can return "_this" parameter as ```sqf
[Display #0]

nor a I see the ```sqf
"start......"

in this code
```sqf
systemChat "start......";
0 fadeMusic 1;
copyToClipboard str _this;
systemChat str _this;
playMusic "test_music";

[sharp stone]

does anyone has a current cfgMods reference?

[severe marlin]

Hey guys

Idk where should I talk about this
I created my mod and there is a faction in my mod when I play dynamic recon ops, when I set my faction in enemy factions it shows the CSAT faction
Do I have to do something else?

[wintry tartan]

What is the goal you want to achieve

[wintry tartan]

I thInk the point here is RscDisplayEmpty is always loaded, and never unloaded through a gameplay session

That means onLoad will not fire whenever you return to the menu

Wild guess though

[mortal pumice]

Don't suppose there's a way to tell AI on a path to wait while the door they just opened finishes opening?

They open it and instantly start walking, unforunately through the gate

My backup is making the path lead up to it longer

[hearty sandal]

Ive wondered this too about 10 years ago with a Hangar door setup for Lost Dragons. However I dont rememer if there was a solution 😅

[mortal pumice]

Previously I just did what I said above and pulled the path out further haha

Unforunately most BIS doors take 1 second to open and it seems ai on paths wait for 1 second

Maybe its hard-coded engine wise

or in cfgbrains

[hearty sandal]

I had this large hangar door that opened slowly

And I think I managed to make I wait for it to open 🤔

I'll have to remember to dig some files

[mortal pumice]

Much appreciated If you can find out what you did 🙂

[frozen bluff]

I'm having a weapon issue. The game recognizes the m2 machinegun fine, but it's not recognnizing the magazine. At first I thought that the magazine was wrong, but it's not taking the BIS magazines either. I've tried some techniques over the hours but so far it just won't accept any mag, so it won't work. I know the minigun works fine, and recoded things so the game is using current code. Still not working. It may be the required addons, but I don't know if that matters.

[hearty sandal]

what have you set it to use as ammo

[frozen bluff]

BIS ammo. I thought that was the problem, but it's still not recognizing the magazine

Straight from the weapons_f config

[hearty sandal]

ok so as a test, if you assign your vehicle vanilla machinegun and give it a vanilla machine gun magazine does that work?

[frozen bluff]

Never tried that, gimme a few

[hearty sandal]

👍 sort of establishing a working base

[frozen bluff]

Yeah it packs fast, so I'll be back soon

Works as intended

Might just use that. Then something is weird because I inherit from the same weapon that works

[hearty sandal]

could be just simple typo somewhere breaking it.

you could work through it in little steps to create new class

but if the vanilla gun is good enough then no problem

[frozen bluff]

Yeah true, I'll mess with it, but at least I know it works and not a bug, or anything thanks man

[amber nacelle]

Good day. In quite a few geometries of tank models, I've noticed a named selection/vertex group called "slide", always on the bottom of the hull of the tank. Am I correct to assume that this is meant to avoid the tank getting beached with its belly on rocks/terrain/etc?

[hearty sandal]

yes I believe that is the case

[amber nacelle]

Thanks 👌

[hearty sandal]

the default components for that are inherited from the Tank_F base class

[amber nacelle]

oho

I'll have to invite you out to a beer if you ever make it to CZ, as I live relatively close to BI's Mníšek HQ 😄

[pastel salmon]

Boom.
Ive met a guy who told me about the LODs and stuff. I maybe got a little distracted
by growing my mind.. 😄
But Ive learned a really lot.

No one was able to anwser me how Im able to manipulate the LOD distances.
So how to set

• LOD res 0 to 10m
• LOD res 1 to 50m
• LOD res 2 to 100m
  ?

I dont know wich channel PANNIIC

[hearty sandal]

you dont set the distances

engine handles it on its own

[pastel salmon]

Could I?

[hearty sandal]

you just provide the different levels

[hearty sandal]

no

[pastel salmon]

wowy wowy wowy

Okay that changes my plans to build 20k+ polis LOD res 0 buildings with enterior and light switches

[nimble sequoia]

Make your 1st res LOD (0) model with the number of polys (tri's) recommended by the experts for that asset type.
Then make resolution LOD's (1, 2, 3...) which halve the number of tri's each time, until you reach the recommended lowest poly count (typically 1000 to 2000).
Example
0: 32k
1: 16k
2: 8k
3: 4k
4: 2k
5: 1k

[pastel salmon]

Isnt that worth to be pinned? just saying
Ive screenshoted it and post in our modding documentation if its ok @nimble sequoia

That would be the post

[nimble sequoia]

To many modders it's fairly basic knowledge, not worthy of being pinned, although I appreciate it's not obvious to beginners. A bit like suggesting that "to turn a car you use the steering wheel".

[hearty sandal]

there is a wiki page

[pastel salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-woah-wait-what-shocked-what-did-you-say-gif-16673454

Thats all I know https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/LOD#<resolution>
Is there more?

[nimble sequoia]

driveOnComponent is obsolete with the physx simulation (carx, tankx etc), but you'll still find it added in the Geometry or Geo Phys LOD, probably out of habit.

[pastel salmon]

Ouch... Ive got things to do. Im already on this since 4.30am... its 10pm in germany 🇩🇪

[amber nacelle]

I spent a good part of making my first model in Blender worrying about not making it too detailed and how to minimize poly count without making it look like shit just because I missed the word "above" in the poly count limit in the LOD article 😭

[amber nacelle]

If you're making your model in Blender, Named Selections can be understood as Vertex Groups

[hearty sandal]

learning experience 😄

can not substitute that by teaching

[amber nacelle]

Nah, just a massive reading skill issue

[prime violet]

Hey fellas, got a question.

Im trying to modify the MFD of an aircraft, and its a bit of an inheritance nightmare.

If im trying to modify external class D, do i go

class ExternalAircraft:a3Aircraft
{
    class A
    {
        Class B
        {
            class C
            {
                class D;
            };
        };    
    };
};```

And then

```class MyModifiedAircraft:ExternalAircraft
{
    class A
    {
        Class B
        {
            class C
            {
                class D
                {
                    valueToEdit = myEditedValue
                };
            };
        };    
    };
};```


or do I have to do

```class a3Aircraft (or whatever ExternalAircraft inherits from)
class ExternalAircraft:a3Aircraft
{
    class A;
};

class ExternalAircraft2:ExternalAircraft
{
    class A:A
    {
        class B;
    };
};
class ExternalAircraft3:ExternalAircraft2
{
    class A:A
    {
        class B:B
        {
            Class C;
        };
    };
};
class ExternalAircraft4:ExternalAircraft 3
{
    class A:A
    {
        class B:B
        {
            Class C:C
            {
                Class D;
            };
        };
    };
};    

And then edit my value? Or am I just approaching it the completely wrong way?

[hearty sandal]

the latter if you also want to inherit the original contents

[prime violet]

gotcha, busted my head on this for like 2 hrs yesterday, thank you

[mortal pumice]

No rush but did you manage to have a dig?

[pastel salmon]

# Gooood Day Bohemia 😄 **
** Its a mod-publishing issue Im bringing today.

Ive published my mod so others could download and update between our GameDays
The problem:
They dont receive the textures. They receive the LODs but not the texture.

Ive attached my mod structure, do I have to put the textures folder somewhere else?
Please correct me if wrong channel posting

During seting up the folder strucure I sticked to https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Creating_an_Addon#Mod_Folder_Structure

[hearty sandal]

no texture showing up usually means you have pathed them wrong and the path does not match what is inside pbo

also how do you pack the pbo?

[pastel salmon]

I receive the texture but the other ones not
Thats what makes me the things complecated for me

[hearty sandal]

pathing is wrong

[pastel salmon]

From where do I have to start it?

[hearty sandal]

it has to match to what you got in your pbo

and again

how do you pack the pbo?

[pastel salmon]

I pack the pbo

[hearty sandal]

with

pbomanager

[pastel salmon]

enter on mouse button is nice haha sry

With addon builder

[hearty sandal]

why is your enter on mouse

[pastel salmon]

It have it source 8 years ago. Little Sascha played KotH and wanted to quick switch 3rd person

Since them Ive always bought the same mouse because it showed of that it can become reeally usefull

If I press my thumb downside

Completly out of topic sorry

So to bring it on point I pack my .pbo with AddonBuilder during I sign it. Then I take the .pbo and move it to the @Folder\addons it will finally remain.

And thats the final I need to go with my path wich starts at my P:\Drive?

[hearty sandal]

what do your paths in p3d and rvmat look like?

[pastel salmon]

So I designates them together with the paths before packing

[hearty sandal]

as you can see this path does not correspond to what you have in the pbo

also why so many folders

[vale basin]

good evening, guys! 😄

how hard would it be to mod an attachment so that it can be used on a different gun?

Specifically a suppressor. I want to put it on a gun that usually doesn't have access to it

[hearty sandal]

does the gun have other suppressors?

[vale basin]

yes it does

[latent dust]

Comrades, I’ve been searching for an answer for a long time and can’t find one.
I need to create an RscShortcutButton for the interface, but the problem is that the images I set in the parameters animTextureDefault, animTextureNormal, animTextureOver, animTextureFocused, animTexturePressed, and animTextureDisabled are applied to the button in a very strange way.
I don’t understand how to change the size of these images without changing the size of the button itself.

[pastel salmon]

5am. Starting time.

The folder structure took me a bit but I filed ||sry for that joke :D|| a lot on it and thats what gives me a good enviroment to work in.

Thats my whole P:\Memory Ive documentaded evrything about that

[pastel salmon]

So those paths needs to go into the MainFolder and be connected to the .pbo in the addons folder

If my theory is correct, that would be an correct example:
model = "EBER\MainFolder@EBER_Structures\addons\structures.pbo"

[wintry tartan]

No.

You need to understand the point of PBOPREFIX

[pastel salmon]

Time to understand the https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/PBOPREFIX
Im already reading and translating technical words
-reading done time to figure out an example-

I love it 😄 https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Creating_an_Addon#Addon_Prefix

That should become key, if I understood it kind of correct. embarrassing that Ive left it like that thinking it will work lol

[wintry tartan]

I don't think you can use such character in the prefix

Just use nothing but only a-z, A-Z, 0-9, and _

[pastel salmon]

Im into reading the https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Creating_an_Addon#Addon_Prefix first for better communication then Ill try to it and send it for your entertainment haha

[wintry tartan]

PROPREFIX is not a mandatory part of it anyways. You are just doing it too much

Well, technically it is. You just need to unserstand how you can tell Arma 3 to find a P3D within a PBO

[pastel salmon]

That made things a lot more clear

That means, if Ive got it correct, that my addon prefix is defined in the addon builder as path and later used as start source. (PBOPREFIX isnt clear so far)

[pastel salmon]

There you are 😄

Still unclear is what the "path to project folder" does in that. *(I gues its the @Folder I store my .pbo/ .bisign inside)
So my "path to project folder" becomes "EBER\MainFolder@EBER_Structures"

The "path to project folder" will be used as something like a "value" of my addon prefix wich makes it available as start path
is my learning somehow correct?

Thats what my theory is leading in. I gues I could meanwhile test it.

Now Im confused because also others are leading the "path to project folder" to the @ModFolder. The only diffrence I made is that Im working on P:\Drive and he got no prefix

Sometimes I cant find the trees inside the forest...

[pastel salmon]

I slowly begin to understand why youve asked buddy...
its confusing for outsider in first instance and in second its diffrent to what others did. So its hard to compare

But Im honest, and yeah it sounds weird, but I think it was a good way to understand.
Most people only copy or steal but never will understand why that happens if they do this or that.

[pastel salmon]

An you successfully planted the right thoughts in my head.
I really thanks for the ideas and inspirations. You brought in the missing part again. "Press F to pay respect!"
and "F" for resisting the pain I feel if I now read my messages during blindly wandering around with half knowledges and wild guesings

|| Time for breakfast 😄 ||

[pastel salmon]

Can someone help me to find the passenger seat define part?
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Category:Arma_3:_Vehicle_Configuration

Am I looking at the right source?

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/CfgVehicles_Config_Reference#...Action

I gues that Ill need to connect or name them as shown in the source

[hearty sandal]

but you are not making a vehicle that has passengers?

[pastel salmon]

Im thinking about to make the chair as a vehicle and define the seating area with as an passenger seat

[hearty sandal]

well. I guess it could be a turret without a weapon

[pastel salmon]

The hatchet mod arrives with a diffrent solution

[hearty sandal]

ACE and other mods use attachTo scripting to glue character on another thing and then they set it to sitting/lyingdown animation

with userActions

it does not necessarily need to be a passenger like in vehicles

[pastel salmon]

How do I define a turret? I gues I use memPoints for their position but Im missing the command for defining them

[hearty sandal]

you can check out the tank sample in the arma3 samples

[pastel salmon]

Ive also played with attachTo and stoped quite quick because I realized that everything effects everything and I would probabbly destroy more then create

[pastel salmon]

They are at mikeros tool in a3\somewhere, right?

[pastel salmon]

userAction seams to be exact what I will need to bring all together. Like addAction in code of running missions, just for an object and its defined in config.cpp
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/UserActions

But why isnt there a "UserActions" in subcat? meow
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/CfgVehicles_Config_Reference#U

[hearty sandal]

no they are separate download from steam

[pastel salmon]

Uhhhh more Arma content

For what do I have to look?

I gues Ive found them those are the things I whised to know earlier about haha

[pastel salmon]

Is that the code that I have to execute with the userActions <statement>?
I gues the string (on the screenshot) of the meomoryPointsGetIn is my proxy group name Ive created in Blender, determined as memLOD, and exported via ObjectBuilder/ Toolbox into .p3d
Is that correct?

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/CfgVehicles_Config_Reference#memoryPointsGetIn...SS

[grand zinc]

It is the name of a named-selection in memory lod that contains one vertex

[pastel salmon]

I love that "from vision to reality"

[hearty sandal]

the memorypointGetIn is for crew members, not exactly for user actions

[pastel salmon]

So for people that are already in the vehicle? Is that what is ment with crew members? Im smelling a wiki entry and a knowledge gap of mine

[hearty sandal]

people who use the vehicle. so get into it, are in it, get out of it

the memorypointGetIn.. is connected with the getting in part

but you dont need to focus on this right now

you are making user action

[pastel salmon]

😂 🤦‍♂️
|| I would break the time if I would entry a vehicle during Im in the vehicle because I make a player able to ||

[pastel salmon]

I have two options now.

1. I overhaste things and get lost in information
2. I do a break because its better because Im on this since 6 hours already (but I enjooooy 😄 ) to think about everything and come back later
   I gues I go with No.2

So again I really need to thank @hearty sandal && @grand zinc for the support and guidance throught my learning I
was able to do in that short amount of time.

[devout venture]

I need some help with making a simple item. Im trying to make an item similar to the firstaidkit or toolkit so that I can use it in scripts. This is my current config:

class CfgWeapons
{
    class ItemCore;
    class InventoryItem_Base_F;

    class MSS_CoTi : ItemCore
    {
    model = "\A3\weapons_f\acc\acco_tws_F";
        scope = 2;
        scopeArsenal = 2;
        scopeCurator = 2;
    simulation = "Weapon";
    picture = "\a3\Weapons_F\acc\Data\UI\icon_optic_tws_ca.paa";
        displayName = "Clip-On Thermal Imager";
        descriptionShort = "A clip-on thermal imager for various optics.";
        class ItemInfo: InventoryItem_Base_F
        {
            allowedSlots[] = {801,701,901};
            mass = 10;
        };
    };
};

however I cant get this item to appear in arsenal or in my inventory using addItem

[vale basin]

Hello guys!

how hard would it be to mod an attachment so that it can be used on a different gun?

Specifically a suppressor. I want to put it on a gun that usually doesn't have access to it

Let's take the NIA weapons pack.

I want to use the "Ops. Inc. 12th model" suppressor available for the "RRA Lar 15" rifle and use it on an M4, for example.

Is there a way for me to acheive this?

[pastel salmon]

Im back with some question about the vehicle cargo.
Ive investigated into the A3Samples. Specifcly for anything wich contains the cargo positions.
The only problem is that I cant find any definition or usage in the config.cpp to where its connected to
an animation or interactopn.

Is there a name system with "pos cargo" of the vertex group?

[hearty sandal]

you were not making the seat a cargo slot but using the scripting like ace does

you dont need these at the moment

focus

[pastel salmon]

In that way I would call or spawn(?) the function of them, right?

[wintry fox]

I'm pretty sure simulation = "Weapon" is what actual weapons use, not inventory items, though I may be misremembering.

If you're fine with a dependency, the easiest and most compatible way to make basic inventory items like that is to use CBA's classes.

class CBA_MiscItem;
class CBA_MiscItem_ItemInfo;
class YourPrefix_YourItem: CBA_MiscItem {
    scope = 2;
    author = "You";
    displayName = "Your Item";
    descriptionShort = "Description";

    class ItemInfo: CBA_MiscItem_ItemInfo {
        mass = 10;
    };
};

If you don't want a dependency, you can do the same changes manually but little bit more effort

CBA just makes their misc items bipods

[hearty sandal]

no

Id recommend focusing first on making the model

youre jumping on so many things right now

[pastel salmon]

For texture uploading? Thats solved, weve tested that out

[devout venture]

I actually just did this right before you sent the message and got it to work

[wheat sluice]

It's very easy if your custom M4 weapon has its weapon attachment slots set up correctly.
If the slots were not set up correctly to inherit from one of the global MuzzleSlot classes, then it gets a little more complicated but it shouldn't be too difficult to remedy.

For now, you'll need to find out how your M4 weapon's MuzzleSlot class under WeaponSlotsInfo has been set up. Is it inheriting from the one of the global MuzzleSlot classes? (e.g. MuzzleSlot_556, asdg_MuzzleSlot_556, etc.)
Or is it hardcoded using the old compatibleItems[] array method?

[pastel salmon]

For fixing my issue with the prefix Ive just replaced all local paths with the addon prefix.
Ive also created the vertex group and exported them. After Ive tried to connect that via class UserAction to an statement.
But Im achieving an error after starting the game that something cant enter the userAction scope

[vale basin]

ok, first of all thank you for the answer, man ❤️
I'm super new to this so it's gonna take me a moment! XD

[pastel salmon]

No one ever is finished learning so everybody is like you for someone else. Were all the same buddy ❤️

[wintry fox]

You're defining the UserActions in CfgVehicles, not your object

[pastel salmon]

Wait.

Were talking about an file.cpp or the section in the config.cpp itself?

(I couldnt send in text either here or in dm)

Thats what Im using for my position value

[wintry fox]

In your config

[vale basin]

ok I'm using the advanced dev tool and I found out which muzzle devices are available for a certain rifle

it tells me this is the path: configFile >> "CfgWeapons" >> "rhs_weap_mk18" >> "WeaponSlotsInfo" >> "MuzzleSlot" >> "compatibleItems" >>

And then I have a list of the available devices

but something tells me this isn't the view you were interested in...

[wintry fox]

The }; after mapSize closes the EBER_... class, and then UserActions is defined in CfgVehicles itself. It needs to be placed before the closing brace

[pastel salmon]

wait what. that was actually in purpose because I defined the class in the UserActions itself. But yours sounds also logic. Ill try

[wintry fox]

If you fixed your indenation it'd be easier to see, this is how arma is reading your config

class CfgVehicles {
    class EBER_StuhlMititaer1 : EBER_TischMititaer1 {
        // ...
    };

    class UserActions {
        // ...
    };
};

[wintry fox]

Then you misunderstood how UserActions works
UserActions should be defined inside your object. Then you make a class inside UserActions for each action

You need to wrap those in like a class Eject

class CfgVehicles {
    class EBER_StuhlMititaer1 : EBER_TischMititaer1 {
        class UserActions {
            class Eject {
                statement = "...";
            };  
        };  
    };
};

[pastel salmon]

just a brackit

class Eject is the "Id" of the UserAction, right? in case there should be more then one

[wintry fox]

No, the ids are numbers

The class name itself isn't relevant to the action at all really

[pastel salmon]

Thats true. I would compare to CfGFunction ongoings with class seperations

[wintry fox]

The class name is relevant for CfgFunctions

Assuming you don't override it with a file parameter

[pastel salmon]

The screenshot Ive posted in hasnt created an error so far

[wintry fox]

It won't create an action

[wintry fox]

This is how it has to be configured

[vale basin]

is this going in the right direction ?

[wheat sluice]

Yes. Fortunately, RHS configs are written well so it's easy enough to ID which class you need to change.
You will need to add your OPS 12th INC suppressor to this class: rhs_western_rifle_muzzle_slot

class asdg_MuzzleSlot;
class asdg_MuzzleSlot_556: asdg_MuzzleSlot
{
    class compatibleItems;
};
class rhs_western_rifle_muzzle_slot: asdg_MuzzleSlot_556
{
    class compatibleItems: compatibleItems
    {
        suppressor_class_name_goes_here = 1;
    };
};

[vale basin]

oho!!!!

[wheat sluice]

Replace suppressor_class_name_goes_here with the name of the OPS 12th suppressor's classname.

Keep in mind that in the example config I wrote for you (asdg_MuzzleSlot, asdg_MuzzleSlot_556, rhs_western_rifle_muzzle_slot), these changes are written at the global level. Don't put this under CfgWeapons or anything else.

[pastel salmon]

Thats with what Ive went in

Ive now added a new class inside the UserAction wich Ive moved inside my CfGVehicle class itself (thrid picture)

[vale basin]

if I hover over the suppressor in the arsenal, it calls it "hlc_muzzle_556NATO_OpsINC12th"
Could this be its name?

[pastel salmon]

I hope Ive used it correct

[wheat sluice]

Yep. Just slot that into the class and you should be good to go:

class rhs_western_rifle_muzzle_slot: asdg_MuzzleSlot_556
{
    class compatibleItems: compatibleItems
    {
        hlc_muzzle_556NATO_OpsINC12th = 1;
    };
};

[vale basin]

uuuh!!! 😄

[wheat sluice]

Don't forget to make sure that the core configs for RHSUSF and NIArms' addons are listed in your CfgPatches requiredAddons[] array.

[vale basin]

where do I put all this? :3

I have no clue XD

Do I just paste it into the devtool and run it?

can't be THAT easy I imagine ^^"

ah, there we go XD

I'm sorry but I have zero knowledge of coding and such

[wheat sluice]

In that case, you'll need to learn from scratch about how to make your own replacement config.
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki?title=Arma_3:_Creating_an_Addon

[vale basin]

ah so it's gonna be an actual mod, like the ones I get from the steam workshop?

[wheat sluice]

Yep.

[vale basin]

oooh!!!

[wheat sluice]

Can't change this via scripting so this is your only option.

[vale basin]

Understood 🫡

[pastel salmon]

That looks like a first start. Now I would like to connect it to a default animation so I can build up on that

[vale basin]

should I use Arma 3 Tools or Mikero's tools? Which would be better for a complete beginner?

[wheat sluice]

You need both regardless.

For packing the PBO, either use Mikero's pboProject or HEMTT.
Bohemia's own Addon Builder is rubbish when it comes to verifying errors so stick to either of those tools.

[vale basin]

Understood!

[vale basin]

I think I hit a hardware wall

I've been trying to create the P drive with the arma 3 tools and copy the game files

but I don't have enough space to copy them and I get errors during the process ^^"

I'm split into 2 drives

C, SSD drive with windows
D, HDD drive with everything else

C is almost maxed out and for some reason the Arma Tools try to copy files in that one when doing their thing

I'm talking about the "extract game data" part

I'm following this tutorial:

https://youtu.be/wZ-OkQeaiAQ?t=424

[nimble sequoia]

You're going to need around 37GB for the p:\a3 folder.
Modding does eat storage space.

[hearty sandal]

https://pmc.editing.wiki/doku.php?id=arma3:tools:mikero-tools
https://pmc.editing.wiki/doku.php?id=arma3:tools:installing-steam-arma-3-tools
https://pmc.editing.wiki/doku.php?id=arma3:tools:setup-p-drive

do these

[vale basin]

I would have enough space on my D drive, but for some reason the Arma 3 tools want to write on my C drive as well

[nimble sequoia]

Try using mikero's tools (arma3p) to unpack the game files, rather than the Arma 3 tools.

[vale basin]

oh! ok!

[nimble sequoia]

Can't promise it will resolve your issue with lack of space on C:\ but it's the recommended method anyway

[vale basin]

I'm trying

[hearty sandal]

do this

[vale basin]

I'm checking

[hearty sandal]

forget the video tutorial

[vale basin]

alright! ^^

[umbral hornet]

Heya can someone pls explain (at best with an example) how I override only the armor values as a patch for certain vests, without defining their model and other propertys again or is this not possible?

Heya, did you manage to find a working result? 🙂

[whole blaze]

I think I did… but I can’t remember if I got it working for Project OPFOR or a different mod since it was so long ago. I’ll check my file later and get back to you (and if I forget, just DM me).

[umbral hornet]

I will thank you in advance!

[vale basalt]

Does anyone have the latest config dump at hand?

[tacit zealot]

Any help on why these radar guided missiles aren't locking on to anything? The laser-guided version works just fine.
I've had other air-to-ground radar missiles, too, where the missile wouldn't lock unless I had a datalinksensor and datalink turned on
hmm might be groundnoisedistcoef yep, setting that to -1 fixed it

[chilly tulip]

It is possible but fairly annoying due to the structure:

class CfgWeapons {
    class ItemCore;
    class Vest_Camo_Base: ItemCore {
        class ItemInfo;
    };
    class V_TacVest_blk_POLICE: Vest_Camo_Base {
        class ItemInfo: ItemInfo {
            class HitpointsProtectionInfo {
                class Chest;
            };
        };
    };
    class JJ_Vest_Test: V_TacVest_blk_POLICE {
        class ItemInfo: ItemInfo {
            class HitpointsProtectionInfo: HitpointsProtectionInfo {
                class Chest: Chest {
                    armor = 20;
                };
            };
        };
    };
};

[umbral hornet]

Thanks!

[pastel salmon]

Hey people 😄
Chair topic

Ive experimented with animations and CfG Functions in the config.cpp I went throught. It works.
My current ongoing is to write the function to sit down.
But Im failing in the syntax of attachTo in "object2" because I dont know how to show him the memory point I want to glue him to

Ive attached my current code

[wintry tartan]

However you want. pos cargo is not how you define anything, though

[pastel salmon]

pos cargo is the name of the memPointLODs vertex group. I hoped to be able to use it as variable for an X,Y,Z cord

[wintry tartan]

No.

Not about that

It is about how an SQF works. Not about config

[pastel salmon]

That sounds critical

[wintry tartan]

As you already found out you skipped QUITE a lot of path before you do anything constructive

[pastel salmon]

I went my way. Now Im here. Not ready to stop. Lets continue
What is my issue?

[wintry tartan]

Not knowing how an SQF works. Or how your concept could work

attachTo takes [theObject, offset] not [pos cargo,[0,0,0]]

theObject here is the object, the chair I guess

pos cargo is not a valid SQF variable or command or anything, it cannot be

"pos cargo" and pos cargo are entire different things

Also the function does not know which object the player wants to sit

[pastel salmon]

I know how to read syntax. But I dont know what I dont know. So I try things. And of course do I know that attachTo needs an object. My thought was that the vertex counts as object so its name is would be the vert group.
Ive found out that its not like that. So Im here to learn.

Can I transform my memLOD vertex into an object?

wait

[wintry tartan]

No. That's not how it works

[pastel salmon]

Thats how it works?

[wintry tartan]

Can I actually beg you to use a high vis syntax highlighter on SQF for everyone's sake, actually?

[hearty sandal]

Id recommend you experiment with the scripting commands separately in the script console in Eden editor

[pastel salmon]

Ive tried 😭

[hearty sandal]

1 command at a time

[pastel salmon]

Ive did, the attachTo wokrs isolated. The animation too. I gues the target gets lost on execution

[hearty sandal]

so you can see what they do and require and return

[pastel salmon]

Isnt that .sqf highlighting?

[grand zinc]

That is unreadable as crap because the colors

[pastel salmon]

I agree

How about that?

[wintry tartan]

This is a highlighter for CPP

[pastel salmon]

ou

now I feel guilty

Is that okay for everybody?

[wintry tartan]

Relatively

[pastel salmon]

That step is done. Next step is the the communication between config.cpp and
function.sqf

Ive tried now with _this and removed the incorrect array around but it wont work.

[wintry fox]

You don't the the _this explicitly, call will use it by default if there's no left argument
It's slightly slower to specify it, not the end of the world if you leave it though

[pastel salmon]

Im a bit confused about that line. But I think youve anwsered it

[pastel salmon]

So Ill try without an arg of the call command in the config.cpp

[wintry fox]

paramas ["_this"] is wrong though.
The command is params, without the second A and you're redefining the _this variable alltogether

[pastel salmon]

Hahaha paramas sounds really spanish

[wintry fox]

What you'd want is:

params ["_target", "_caller"];
[_caller, "SIT_U3", "ASIS"] call BIS_fnc_ambientAnim;
_caller attachTo [_target, [0, 0, 0]];

[pastel salmon]

Thats what Ive tried to do.. But where to define _target/ _caller? And how to keep them unspecific?

[wintry fox]

params is what defines the variables

What do you mean by "keep them unspecific"?

[pastel salmon]

Forget about. Each execution is an diffrent scope so they cant collide. Ive texted to fast 😄

I remember about! Jan from german TOB explained already. Its like a year ago.

He said that the arriving values are sorted in the prepared params command by their arrival index like params [0,1,2,3]

do I remember right?

I gues thats a good setup to find out

[wintry fox]

_chairTarget isn't defined in your UserAction

[wintry fox]

Yes, params will assign each value in an array to a variable.

E.g.

[1, 2, 3] params ["_one", "_two", "_three"];
_one; // 1
_two; // 2
_three; // 3

[wintry fox]

The order in params is swapped around
Take a look at the script parameter on https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/addAction to see what is passed

It's [_target, _caller, ...], _target being the thing with the action and _caller being the unit that triggered it

[pastel salmon]

They both receive any

So I had this idea to define them

[wintry fox]

_this is an array containing all of the params passed to the UserAction, you don't need to pass it in an array already. You also have a syntax error with a comma outside the array

The statement should just be "call EBER_MilChair_..."

[pastel salmon]

Thats what resulted in "any"

[wintry fox]

Because you're params is incorrect

You have it as a single string, it's trying to define a variable called _playerTarget, _chairTarget, which fails

[pastel salmon]

Aiiiiii

Thanks for waking me up

So thats what I need

[wintry fox]

Yes

This is why syntax highlighting is helpful

[pastel salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/fightclub-punch-work-reaction-mrw-gif-4970584

that feeling

[plain rose]

i have a question regarding arma 3 addon configs and getting them onto a server// Death and Hit Reactions

do i place them in the server config file like this? (at the bottom) cause it results in a crash and i honestly have no idea how to get it working (it does it with every addon)

[wintry fox]

Are those CBA settings?

[plain rose]

no just the config directly

[wintry fox]

Either way a mod's settings aren't going to be in your server config

[wintry fox]

I'm asking if WBK_whatever is a CBA setting since you're using force

[plain rose]

it might be im not sure myself

[wintry fox]

Well where are you getting the names from

[plain rose]

ah yeah it was CBA i was getting them from arma 3 i didnt know CBA added the addon config thing its fixed now i put it in the user config and it works

mb

[pastel salmon]

Its still "any"

I think its because Ive no springs connected

[grand zinc]

Reading wiki.
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/UserActions

Variable this references object to which action is attached to.

params uses _this by default. That's not the same

It also only mentions having the object, not whoever activated the action, but you can reasonably assume that the activator is player

[wintry fox]

Oh UA config uses this?

[grand zinc]

No, the wiki only says it as a joke

[pastel salmon]

I hoped to do it with that

[wintry fox]

I meant it more as a "I don't remember that"

[grand zinc]

especially when onlyforPlayer is set, then its probably player

[grand zinc]

Yes but you still missed the fact that its NOT _this

[pastel salmon]

Thats what Ive tried to understand there

[grand zinc]

the argument on the left side of the call command, will be stored in the _this variable when the function on the right side of the call command is executed

[pastel salmon]

Talking to you is like watching into the future haha || immer wieder beeindruckend ❤️ ||

[pastel salmon]

Im back. Time to understand and learn

[pastel salmon]

click

Thanks once again brother 😄

[wintry fox]

Just use this instead of cursorObject, it potentially could be something different than the object being interacted with. this will always be the chair in this case

[pastel salmon]

Whats the major diffrence between _this and this?
Ive heard from "this" but only know about magic var
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Magic_Variables#this

[fleet adder]

whenever you create a placeable "prop" weapon for Eden, do the model of the weapon depends on the classname you are feeding into the transport classnames?

For example, if a weapon comes with no predefined magazine or attachments, even if you are telling the prop that is carries such magazine or attachments, do I need to include them into the actual weapon config as predefined attachments/mag for it to reflect on the prop model?

[wintry fox]

They're both "magic variables" (variables that are already defined for you), they're just used in different cases. this is usually just an object when its used, e.g. in an object's init box in Eden or UserActions. While _this is used by default in scripts

[wintry fox]

You need to make a separate version of the weapon with the attachments already on. Just adding them to the ground holder just places the items in the inventory, not on the weapon

[fleet adder]

thank you for the clarification

[pastel salmon]

That brought clearance behind many things

[trim thorn]

is there a way to add an ace interaction to an existing vehicle?

[wintry fox]

Yeah

[trim thorn]

how would one do such a thing

[wintry fox]

The same way you'd modify any other class

You can just pull up the ACE_Actions >> ACE_MainActions class in the config viewer and copy the inheritance. Use Advanced Developer Tools if you're not already

[trim thorn]

class UAV_01_base_F : UAV_01_base_F { class ACE_Actions { class ACE_MainActions { class IC51_PackUAV { displayName = "Pack UAV"; condition = "alive _player && isNull objectParent _player && {_player distance _target < 3}"; statement = "[_target, _player] remoteExec ['fnc_packUAV_server', 2]"; }; }; };

so doing something like that in my config vehicles or am I misunderstanding

[wintry fox]

You're redefining Actions and MainActions, not inheriting, also code blocks are three backticks

[trim thorn]

yeah I hit the wrong thing lol

[wintry fox]

You just need three instead of 1

```cpp
code
```

[trim thorn]

yeah I know abou the the 3 ` I just hit the wrong thing

so rather than doing redefining what would I need to change?

[wintry fox]

Your remoteExec also seemignly doesn't have the full function name, or you're not prefixing your functions. Either way it's wrong

[wintry fox]

You need to inherit the MainActions class

[trim thorn]

so would I just copy that over or what woudl I need to do for that

[wintry fox]

You need to grab UAV_01_base_F's parent class(es) and reference the MainActions class and inherit from it

I also just realized you're trying to make a class inherit from itself

Which is also incorrect

[amber nacelle]

Is there a way to define which position in a tank will use which model/LOD when turned in/out?
Because as is, my tank's crewmembers see the following:

| Position  | LOD turned in | LOD turned out |
+-----------+---------------+----------------+
| Driver    | Gunner        | Pilot          |
+-----------+---------------+----------------+
| Gunner    | Gunner        | Resolution 0   |
+-----------+---------------+----------------+
| Commander | Gunner        | Resolution 0   |
+-----------+---------------+----------------+```
It's not a problem per se, but I'm just not sure if that's normal or something wonky is going on.

EDIT: Found it. Variables in the config file. Info about it is here: https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/CfgVehicles_Config_Reference#LODDriverTurnedIn
For driver, it's *LODDriverTurnedIn*, *LODDriverTurnedOut*, *LODDriverOpticsIn* and *LODDriverOpticsOut*. For gunner and commander, it's *LODTurnedIn*, *LODTurnedOut*, *LODOpticsIn* and *LODOpticsOut*.

[wintry fox]

This is what you need to use in your inheritance, and then also make sure that ace_interaction is in your addon's requiredAddons

You need to reference the MainActions class from Helicopter_Base_F and then inherit it

[trim thorn]

alright and so would I need to create a new overall class as well even though I just want to add something to it?

[wintry fox]

No

[trim thorn]

so then would i just call the uav class or what woudl I do im a little confused

[wintry fox]

Your current setup is correct, the inheritance is just wrong

[wintry fox]

When you're modifying a class, you need to copy the same inheritance that the class is using.
UAV_01_base_F inherits from Helicopter_Base_F. So when you're modifying it, you need to do the same. You're trying to make it inherit from UAV_01_base_F, which would try to make it inherit from itself which doesn't work

[whole blaze]

@umbral hornet Hey, sorry it took so long for me to reply. Can you DM me?

[umbral hornet]

Dont worry, someone helped me on this discord somewhere up 🙂
Still thanks for the offer!

[fleet adder]

is there anything more on the subject i can read? looks like all my variants with muzzle devices do not have them for whatever reason, even though they are being reported by the "contents" of the groundholder to being using that variant

pointers and cowslots seems to be working just fine though

[wintry fox]

You'd have to show your config

[fleet adder]

I.e:

    class KMPE_AM_AMB17_kitted : KMPE_AM_AMB17
    {
        baseWeapon = "";
        
        class LinkedItems
        {
            class LinkedItemsOptic
            {
                item = "";
                slot = "CowsSlot";
            };
            
            class LinkedItemsAcc            
            {
                item = "";
                slot = "PointerSlot";
            };
            
            class LinkedItemsUnder
            {
                item = "";
                slot = "UnderBarrelSlot";
            };
            
            class LinkedItemsMuzzle
            {
                item = "KMPE_muzzle_snds_AMB17";
                slot = "MuzzleSlot";
            };
        };
    };

the attachment IS compatible, i have it equipped

[wintry fox]

Can you show the weapon slots info class?

Specifically the MuzzleSlot class in it

[fleet adder]

        class weaponSlotsInfo
        {    
        
            class CowsSlot : ScopeSlot_PicatinnyShort {};
            class MuzzleSlot : muzzleFamily_AMB17 {};
        };

sec

[wintry fox]

Thought it might have had wrong casing, slot is case sensitive to the slot class name in WeaponSlotsInfo

E.g. it wouldn't work if you had like slot = "muzzleslot" but did class MuzzleSlot

[fleet adder]

class muzzleFamily_AMB17 : muzzleFamily_939_detachable
{
    class compatibleItems : compatibleItems 
    {
        KMPE_muzzle_snds_AMB17 = 1;
    };
};

This is the parent all the way up

class muzzleFamily_SR3 : MuzzleSlot
{
    class compatibleItems 
    {
        KMPE_muzzle_brake_SR3 = 1;
        KMPE_muzzle_snds_SR3 = 1;
    };
};

[wintry fox]

Yeah that all seems fine, nothing sticks out to me

[fleet adder]

all the slot names match their definition in my configs, SomethingSlot

i wonder if its intentional

i havent seen vanilla defined muzzles in the weapon variants

[wintry fox]

It's worked fine in my experience

Do the other slots work fine and just Muzzle isn't working?

[fleet adder]

yeah, its why im puzzled hahaha

well, same with magazines, but all vanilla weapons execept the ones with the model that has the magazine in their actual p3d have no mag

so im not too worried about that

[wintry fox]

You just include a magazine in the ground holder as well and it'll be loaded into the gun

But yeah, no clue about why the muzzle specifically wouldn't be working for you there

[fleet adder]

yeah but the props placed wont show the mag proxy for whatever reason

i wonder if its because i have empty slots as ""

[wintry fox]

Shouldn't affect it, but you can remove those

[fleet adder]

weapons that have actual attachments in cowslots and pointers do show, but since i have nothing at all in underbarrel makes me think it might be related since in all of them muzzle comes last

[fleet adder]

oh whoop

they do affect

moral of the story, dont leave placeholder empty classes as they somehow halt the definition of the rest of the classes

[wintry fox]

Interesting

[hollow bison]

class CfgFunctions {
    class Pepe {
        class PepeSimpleCustomModuleCategory {
            file = "functions";
            class AdditionModule {file = "Pepe_SimpleCustomModule\functions\AdditionModule.sqf";};
        };
    };
};

class CfgVehicles {
    class zen_modules_moduleBase;
    class Pepe_SimpleCustomModuleAddDeviceZeus: zen_modules_moduleBase {
        author = "Pepe";
        _generalMacro = "Pepe_SimpleCustomModuleAdditionModule";
        curatorCanAttach = 1;
        category = "Pepe_SimpleCustomModule";
        function = "Pepe_fnc_AdditionModule";
        displayName = "Addition Module";
    };
};``` Why is the function AdditionModule not working when placing it in game (via Zeus)? I don't see anything wrong with this config.cpp file

[young mortar]

how do I config a weapon with an integrated silencer? e.g. MP5SD?

[pastel tusk]

Heyo

Quick question

What field in an entities config would handle executing a script on spawn / initialization?

I am trying to run a simple script to disable a unit's damage as soon as it is spawned via Zeus or at the start of a mission

[wintry tartan]

EventHandlers

[nimble sequoia]

Example

{
    postInit = "if (local (_this select 0)) then {[(_this select 0), """", [], true] call bis_fnc_initVehicle;};";
};```

[pastel tusk]

Would this go inside the entities config?

[nimble sequoia]

Inside

{
     class yourVehicle 
     {
          class EventHandlers 
          {```

[pastel tusk]

and vehicles would technically be what units are put under as well, correct?

[nimble sequoia]

Use the Arma 3 Samples to guide you

[pastel tusk]

Thank you

[pastel tusk]

Can it also take a function name instead of a script or call fn_functionName?

[nimble sequoia]

Um, what does the screenshot I posted show?!

[pastel tusk]

You mean look through the samples? I see the code inside quotes like "systemChat 'fired';"

I meant if it can take it like like:
init = bis_fnc_initVehicle;

for example if that is even viable.

[vale basin]

Good afternoon guys

When I subscribe to a new mod...

Do I have to update the P drive or anything like that?

The whole "extract game files" deal

[hearty sandal]

do you need that mods contents on P drive?

the default P drive setup (arma3p) extracts only the vanilla data, not mods

if you needs mod content for some reason like for terrain building then you need to extract those manually

[vale basin]

Ok, what about my little project?

Allowing a suppressor to be used on a different weapon. All within the same mod pack.

[hearty sandal]

I dont know what you mean

[vale basin]

Sorry, I was AFK. Here’s what I’m trying to do:

I want to take the “OpsInc 12th” suppressor from the NIA weapons pack (currently linked to the RRA LAR-15 AMR rifle) and make it usable on a Mk18 rifle from another weapons pack (e.g., RHS).

Drebin and you have been helping me the last couple of days, and here’s what I’ve done so far:

Learned that the RHS Mk18 rifle has good configs, and that I just need to add the suppressor to its class attachment list.

Got an example of what the script should look like.

Was told I’d need to package this as an actual mod.

Downloaded ARMA 3 Tools.

Downloaded PBO Manager.

Downloaded Mikero Tools.

Created a P drive using Mikero Tools.

That’s where I’m at now — and honestly, I have no clue what to do next, it's the first time I try anything like this and I have 0 exp with coding or programming 🙁

[hearty sandal]

since its just config work you put your new config into P:\RobbsFancyMods\RFM_SuppressorCompatibilityMod\config.cpp

and pack that up into mod.

the config needs to refer to both mods you want to use data from in the cfgPatches required addons Array

that way your new config Patch Mod loads after the original requirements and can overwrite and use their data

[vale basin]

P:\RobbsFancyMods\RFM_SuppressorCompatibilityMod\config.cpp

this would just be a folder I create in the P drive?

[hearty sandal]

yes

[vale basin]

ok give me a second

[hearty sandal]

and you would make your other mods there too to keep P drive nice and tidy

[vale basin]

I imagine the .ccp file is the one with the actual script?

such as this:

class rhs_western_rifle_muzzle_slot: asdg_MuzzleSlot_556
{
class compatibleItems: compatibleItems
{
hlc_muzzle_556NATO_OpsINC12th = 1;
};
};

?

[hearty sandal]

yes

[vale basin]

and does it have to be a note++ file or something?

[hearty sandal]

you can check out the Arma 3 samples on steam for example configs

[hearty sandal]

config.cpp is the full name with the file extension

it is basically a text file though

[grand zinc]

You can just add it directly to the asdg_MuzzleSlot, instead of adding it to a RHS specific one.
It'll work on other weapons too but that shouldn't be a problem right?

class CfgPatches {
    class wolf_osssuppressor {
        units[]= { };
        weapons[]= { "wolf_foxsuppressor" };
        requiredAddons[]= { "cba_jr" };
        requiredVersion=0.1;
    };
};
class asdg_MuzzleSlot;
class asdg_MuzzleSlot_762: asdg_MuzzleSlot {
    class compatibleItems {
        wolf_foxsuppressor=1;
    };
};
class asdg_MuzzleSlot_556: asdg_MuzzleSlot {
    class compatibleItems {
        wolf_foxsuppressor=1;
    };
};

Like this, to add it to all 556/762 guns at once

You also don't need a p-drive for this, as this doesn't reference any files

nor do you need mikeros tools for a mod this simple

[hearty sandal]

true but maybe he makes something more complex in the future

[vale basin]

oh!!! Wait a second that would be even better!!

[amber nacelle]

Hello, please, which part of the code defines how many headlight beams a vehicle projects? Some vehicles I've come across (most SOG tanks, RHS Abrams, some QAV vehicles) project 2, whereas most vehicles (including the one I'm working on) project just one.
Looking at the config.hpp and model config, I don't see any difference between the code on my end (stock code from the sample) and the code in RHS' Abrams. Unless there's something else I should be looking at besides class Reflectors.

[vale basin]

I substituted the name like this

( I got the part name by hovering over it in arsenal)

is this ok?
if so, what would my next step be? 🤔

do I need to do the mod thingy or use the other option Dedmen mentioned?

[grand zinc]

You need to put that into a config.cpp
And then pack it into a pbo.
You can use any tool for that. Mikeros pboProject, Arma 3 tools addon builder, hemtt.
Any pbo packer could work. Here you don't even need to binarize the config but its still better to do so (the 3 names tools above do that)

You have two errors in yours though.
The classname in CfgPatches, should be unique, the name of your mod.
The weapons array in CfgPatches lists weapons that you have added, but you didn't add any, so that should be empty.
I ommitted the part of my config where I add the suppressor

[outer wyvern]

Hello, what rvmat uses the default custom face in Arma 3?

[vale basin]

I modified it, is this correct?

(I have 0 exp with coding )

[grand zinc]

yes

[vale basin]

hue hue hue

now I save this

this is what it looks like in my P drive

[grand zinc]

it must be named literally config.cpp not any extra letters on the filename

[vale basin]

oh! sorry

ok

just to be sure, the code inside is exactly what I pasted before, there's nothing else to add, right?

I tried compiling it with pbo project, it sung halleluja and gave me this:

[nimble sequoia]

class Reflectors {}
aggregateReflectors[] =
Emissive textures on the model
Volumetric light proxies on the model

[amber nacelle]

Thanks 👌

I've not done the textures for my tank yet 😅

aggregateReflectors is what I was looking for. By default, it's aggregateReflectors[] = {{"Left","Right","Left2","Right2"}}; What I need (and didn't notice was different) is for it to be aggregateReflectors[] = {{"Left","Left2"},{"Right","Right2"}};

That did it 😄

[vale basin]

ok I'm gonna try to create the mod now

(I'm sure I messed up somewhere along the way) ahhahahah

ok let's test it

keep your fingers crossed

holy shit I can't believe it!

it worked!!

@wheat sluice
@hearty sandal
@grand zinc

Thank you guys so much!!!! 🙏

I can't believe it worked!!! 😄 😍

[hearty sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/guy-long-hair-mustache-magic-shia-labeouf-gif-17741293

[vale basin]

feels like it, ngl XD

now imma try adding another suppressor using the same method

[vale basin]

it worked again

now, the placement is not perfect
I expected that, but can it be changed?

I'm talking about modifiying the placement of a suppressor on a barrel

is it something relatively doable or ungodly difficult?

[hearty sandal]

not possible

its part of the model

[vale basin]

understood!

[sweet abyss]

Can anyone point me to docs or otherwise in removing ACE's camera shake/recoil when firing a launcher. I've removed vanilla shake but now ace is an issue and can't find the solution.

I've defined a custom Recoil Cfg as a test but no joy.

[amber nacelle]

I've just noticed that the sample tank has no collision with soldiers when destroyed. It interacts with map assets normally and can be pushed around with another tank, but a soldier will go straight through.
Do I need to somehow manually assign the geometry LOD to the wreckage? 🤔

EDIT: As usual, this issue with the sample tank is solved by adding one single line of code to the CfgVehicles.hpp/config.hpp file. destrType="DestructDefault";

[wintry fox]

It's scripted
https://github.com/acemod/ACE3/blob/0ff7d8eaa45432d6c77a94894ae36f3f8958816c/addons/recoil/functions/fnc_camshake.sqf

Are you trying to remove it entirely or just for specific weapons?

[sweet abyss]

Just a specific weapon I've made.

[wintry fox]

You could make a script to edit the cache, it'd be pretty easy to do

ace_recoil_recoilCache set ["YourWeaponClass_muzzleName", [0, 0]];

You'd need to run that after ace defines the variable, so something like a separate addon that requires ace and runs the script would be simple enough

[sweet abyss]

How would that look like inside a config of a new mod would you just slot it into any line or would it go inside a particular class?
Or is there a different method like calling a loose SQF file or something?

[wintry fox]

Yeah you'd call a script, since it'd only run once you could just do like a call compileScript ['\path\to\script.sqf']

Easiest way would just be through cba event handlers

[sweet abyss]

Any good tips on learning CBA Eventhandlers and how to set them up. I've never acually used the CBA framework/functions it offers before and I'd imagine there is some setup?

I know there are things like the XEH_preInit, Start and Post not sure how they are used.

[wintry fox]

https://github.com/CBATeam/CBA_A3/wiki/Extended-Event-Handlers-(new)#extended_postinit_eventhandlers

[sweet abyss]

So i have the basics down and my function works it removes the shake/recoil for my weapon now but I notice it breaks ACE3 arsenal that you can access from the main menu.

[wintry fox]

In what way?

[sweet abyss]

When I click it I spawn in with no Arsenal and with broken binos.

Super weird tbh

[wintry fox]

It means your script has some kind of error, which causes CBA to not run the rest of the postInit functions

[sweet abyss]

Good to know I'll look back through it again.

[wintry fox]

Could you share your config and script?

[sweet abyss]

I followed this before you replied. I'm guessing the layout might be outdated or something so I might have to redo it with the docs you sent

[wintry fox]

That doesn't include CfgEventHandlers file

[sweet abyss]

Some of my message didn't copy sorry I followed this https://www.reddit.com/r/armadev/comments/hxobxt/comment/fzi1fmj/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[wintry fox]

Seems mostly fine from a quick look, but it's assuming you're using CBA's macro setup, which you may or may not

[sweet abyss]

Not sure if there's a better way to share those so you don't have to download them individually.

[wintry fox]

Bit annoying on mobile but it's fine, just downloading and renaming to .txt works fine

But yeah, from that it doesn't seem like you're calling your script there at all

[sweet abyss]

I prep it in the prep file and call FUNC in the preStart.sqf

[wintry fox]

Ah well that'd be too early, the recoilCache is defined in preInit

[sweet abyss]

Ah so move the call. Then that should hopefully work

[wintry fox]

Yeah, preStart is the black screen before the main menu

PreInit is Eden / before mission load, postInit is mission load

[sweet abyss]

So i have my preInit as

#include "script_component.hpp"
#include "XEH_PREP.sqf"
[] call FUNC(removeRecoil);
ADDON = true;

Can I delete the postInit and preStart as I don't use them? Or are they required?

[wintry fox]

You can remove them yeah, just remove the script and classes from CfgEventHandlers

[sweet abyss]

Same issue with the Ace Arsenal. I have a feeling it's the ace_recoil_recoilCache set ["YourWeaponClass_muzzleName", [0, 0]]; where would I get the muzzleName for my launcher don't think I have one defined.

[wintry fox]

Actually I realize I'm mistaken, the preStart one would be required if you want to edit the cache as a function.

The preStart one is needed so your function is cached properly. But you can also just run the code directly in the postInit script

[chilly tulip]

Should be easy enough to figure out the convention by looking at the ace_recoil_recoilCache hashmap.

There are plenty of weapons around that don't have any muzzles defined except the base.

[wintry fox]

All weapons have a muzzle, iirc it should just be the weapon name repeated twice when you're using a normal firing mode on it

Or well, from how ace formats it + how the fired event handler defines the params

[chilly tulip]

Depends on how ACE handles the case, but weaponName_weaponName, weaponName or weaponName_this are all plausible options.

[wintry fox]

Yeah
Easy way to check would be firing your weapon and checking the cache (you can just paste ace_recoil_recoilCache into the debug console and run the code)

[chilly tulip]

chiller quoted ace_recoil_recoilCache.

So one of these is wrong :P

[wintry fox]

I was wrong there

[sweet abyss]

I'm kinda confused tbh. How can I debug/determine why CBA isn't loading properly with my mod loaded. I'm guessing it was the muzzle but don't know for sure.

[wintry fox]

CBA goes through and runs all the code, if there's an error in any of scripts then the rest will fail to load

[sweet abyss]

I know my mod and the script within are the culprit but can I debug them to get the problem?

Or thinking about it, the only parts that I've added is that particular line in my function so I probably don't really need a debug 😂

[wintry fox]

You can comment out the init = lines and run them in-game later to see if an error occurs

[sweet abyss]

With that can I just straight up run the QUOTE( call COMPILE_FILE(XEH_preInit) ); in the ingame console? Will CBA stuff like that work?

[wintry fox]

You'd need to essentially do the preprocessing yourself, i.e. call compileScript ["\path\to\XEH_preInit.sqf"]

[chilly tulip]

QUOTE and COMPILE_FILE are macros so they won't be recognised in the debug console.

[sweet abyss]

Got ya so basicly test it in its simplest form.

[sweet abyss]

Yeah thought so, new to CBA a few concepts I'm still grasping tbh

[wintry fox]

You don't have to use the macros if you don't want to

I started using them ~a year into modding and while they are certainly helpful once you learn them it's important to know what those macros are doing

[sweet abyss]

I'm having an issue with regards to compiling now.

<MakePbo start>

CfgEventhandlers.hpp:loading...
config.cpp:compiling...

**********missing file(s)***************
\x\TIA\addons\TIA_OldArriflex_16ST_AceFix\CfgEventhandlers.hpp circa Line 4: call compile preprocessFileLineNumbers '\x\MYTAG\addons\MYMOD\XEH_preInit.sqf'
**********missing file(s)***************

\x\TIA\addons\TIA_OldArriflex_16ST_AceFix\config.cpp Rapify:**********missing file(s)***************
fnc_removeRecoil.sqf:loading...
script_component.hpp:loading...
XEH_preInit.sqf:loading...
XEH_PREP.sqf:loading...


Missing File Summary
missing in CfgEventhandlers.hpp : call compile preprocessFileLineNumbers '\x\MYTAG\addons\MYMOD\XEH_preInit.sqf'

\x\TIA\addons\TIA_OldArriflex_16ST_AceFix: DePbo:missing file(s)
pbo_Make failed

I had a bunch of warnings about defines inside CBA when I was compiling. Unsure if that highlights another issue or if that's normal. I got around those warnings as errors by disabling them as warnings.

[wintry fox]

Ah looks like you're missing some macro definitions, since MYTAG and MYMOD should both be something else (TIA and TIA_OldArriflex_16ST_AceFix from how it looks)

Ir you're not looking to switch to a CBA macro setup (or at the very least, not at this moment), I'd advise just pathing to the file manually and skip all the CBA macros

[sweet abyss]

Compiles ok now and aresnal works correctly. However my launcher still shakes so I need to find the Muzzle name now me thinks.

I'll test my weapon class name twice like mentioned earlier.

Actually I'm getting a Script XEH_preInit.sqf not found warning when I launch even though it compiles ok with pboProject. 🙄

[wintry fox]

Fire the launcher and then run ace_recoil_recoilCache in the debug console

Look for your launcher in there

[sweet abyss]

It's in there with [["Arriflex_16STArriflex_16ST",[0,0]]]

So that's my muzzle then?

[wintry fox]

If it's still giving you a camera shake it shouldn't be

I assume addCamShake [0, 0] (which is what ace would run) shouldn't shake the camera though, considering that's 0 power and a 0 second duration

[sweet abyss]

So would this be a vanilla issue now? Maybe something in the config that I overlooked that adds shake.

I would assume also with the values being 0 that the ace recoil should be fixed but it isn't. Thing is I still think Ace3 is the issue because I don't have that shake with ace off.

[wintry fox]

I think you might have pulled the wrong value from the cache

Could you show the output when you look at it in the console?

[sweet abyss]

Hope you mean this console.

[wintry fox]

And that's after firing your launcher?

[sweet abyss]

Yeah

[wintry fox]

Odd

Oh nevermind, I read the ace code wrong. It takes the values in the cache and then does extra math on top of it

Sorry about that, I thought that math was what was saved to the cache, but the value is pulled from cache and then modified

[sweet abyss]

Hey no problem man I appreciate all the help I get.

[wintry fox]

I think it would require some edits on ace's side, like maybe skipping the camShake if it's like-1

Alternatively you could try setting it to a really low negative number instead of 0 and see what happens

You can also test it without restarting the game for convenience btw, just take the code from your function and run it in the debug console

[sweet abyss]

Ohh good idea. And I was actually gonna ask is there a way I can debug this live. Good to know 🙂

[sweet abyss]

That worked perfectly. Shake is gone. Thank you kindly 🫡

[sweet abyss]

So it works though console but not through the file when compiled as a mod. I wonder if it's not in the right XEH file or something else.
When I run ace_recoil_recoilCache it gives me 0,0 so my compiled edit is overridden or doesn't apply at all.

If it do ace_recoil_recoilCache set ["Arriflex_16STArriflex_16ST", [-1, -1]]; then run ace_recoil_recoilCache i then see the correct values of -1,-1

[wintry fox]

And what's in your function currently?

[sweet abyss]

ace_recoil_recoilCache set ["Arriflex_16STArriflex_16ST", [-100, -1]];

Was testing crazy values 😂

[wintry fox]

Not sure why it'd still be 0, 0
Did you rebuild and relaunch after modifying the function itself?

[sweet abyss]

I sure did. I actually tried a 5,5 value to make sure there wasn't some failsafe rounding to the nearest positive or something. But still a 0,0

It's like my changes aren't being reflected in game.

I'll manually delete all files and recompile to make sure

So turns out it's a macro issue again. MYTAG and MYMOD aren't being changed for the function path.

[] call FUNC(removeRecoil); gonna try without macros

Not sure why CBA is such an issue with Macros like these.

[wintry fox]

CBA expects a certain file path structure, your mod may / may not be set up like that

[sweet abyss]

I followed the layout in that reddit thread I posted awhile ago. Not sure if that's correct or not

[wintry fox]

It'd be something with your pbo prefix

CBA expects it to be like z\Prefix\addons\AddonName\...
E.g. for ace recoil it'd be z\ace\addons\recoil\...

I think pbo project uses a different default file path

I only used pbo project for like 10-15 minutes before switching to hemtt, so I don't remember too much about it

[sweet abyss]

Oh so I'm using x instead of z that might do it smh. I'll try change that

[chilly tulip]

Last I saw, ACE used PREFIX and COMPONENT rather than MYTAG and MYMOD. There are different versions of the CBA architecture.

You gotta follow the include chain and see.

[wintry fox]

X is just the default if you don't define the MAINPREFIX macro

[wintry fox]

I think those are placeholders from what they copied it from

[chilly tulip]

ah, maybe. Can't tell with macros :P

In that case it's working but you haven't set the values.

[sweet abyss]

Oh so that isn't it then.

My path I have established is x\TIA\addons\TIA_OldArriflex_16ST_AceFix\

[chilly tulip]

In general, each of your files will include a script_component.hpp from the root of their addon. This should have a line at the top like #define COMPONENT TIA_OldArriflex_16ST_AceFix

That file will also have an include for script_mod.hpp somewhere in your mod.

That one has MAINPREFIX and PREFIX defines, which you need to set correctly.

[sweet abyss]

That was my issue.

[hollow bison]

Bumping this again. Any idea why the function is not being executed? I can select and place down the module but the function does not work/execute.

[chilly tulip]

Can you successfully call Pepe_fnc_AdditionModule from the debug console?