arma3_config

[toxic solar]

turns out I had my memory points named wrong in config, I had light_interior1 in config, but it was light_interior_1 in p3d 🙂

[lean bloom]

Is there something that makes the magazineReloadTime not constant? There seems to be a random deviation of a second or two constantly. It either reloads faster or slower than what I indicate.

[novel lava]

frame rate

[lean bloom]

Uhm, how do I then align a longer (19 seconds) reload sound with the reload time?

Or am I just cooked?

[novel lava]

cooked

best you can do is make it vaguely correct

would be nice to detach that and reloadtime from framerate, or atleast connect it to sound or something.

infantry weapons dont have this problem because magazinereloadtime is ignored and its instead latched to the animation length

which, seem to be independent from framerate as I haven't noticed them getting out of sync with the sound

[lean bloom]

Thanks for the clarification

[severe marlin]

Guys

The "G_40mm_HE" it's the vanilla grenade launcher Ammo?

[faint spruce]

How do i set the amount of stamina of a custom character ? How do i define how much stamina drains each action ?

[hearty sandal]

is this for vehicle weapon?

[lean bloom]

yes

[hearty sandal]

you could maybe tie smaller sound segments to specific animation classes maybe

[wheat sluice]

You define your own custom CfgMovesFatigue class and override the default one that's inherited by all human soldier classes.
e.g.

class CfgMovesFatigue_SuperSoldier
{
    staminaDuration = 600;
    staminaCooldown = 10;
    staminaRestoration = 30;
    aimPrecisionSpeedCoef = 5;
    terrainDrainSprint = -1;
    terrainDrainRun = -1;
    terrainSpeedCoef = 0.89999998;
};
class CfgVehicles
{
    class O_Soldier_base_F;
    class O_Protagonist_VR_F: O_Soldier_base_F
    {
        movesFatigue = "CfgMovesFatigue_SuperSoldier";
    };
};

Using these settings, staminaDuration = 600; gives the REDFOR VR Soldier class (O_Protagonist_VR_F) a full 10 minutes of sprinting at full stamina (assuming nothing else is worn). Regeneration rates and other factors like increased weapon sway remain unaffected since I didn't change the default values.
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_CfgMovesFatigue

For changing the consumption rates of individual actions, it's handled separately in CfgMoves but that's another can of worms that can end up negatively affecting other non-custom soldier classes as well. I'd suggest sticking to just CfgMovesFatigue to keep things simple.

[mortal pumice]

Out of curiosity, is there a way to get around naming the model file name the same for ruins as the classname?

from the WIKI

"Note that the p3d name, and this class name, must match"
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Building_Configs

I've manged to be able to configure the base, to go to the damaged version via replaceDamaged, and then on the damaged versions class defining the rubble again in replaceDamaged, this does work but I think when the main model gets to 50% damage, it switches to the damaged class and then damages it to say 50.1 percent or something and if I define the rubble by its classname in replaceDamaged it takes 1 hit to then trigger it to change

(I belive this is expected behaviour)

[faint spruce]

Hmmm so this it it. Thank you very much, i'll take a deeper look into this class

[hearty sandal]

As I understand it, its referring to terrain object connection by Land_ prefix to config so myBuilding.p3d connects to config by class land_myBuilding
or as the "custom rubble" entity myRubble.p3d -> land_Myrubble or if it was any_ruins.p3d it would be land_any_ruins

[coral knoll]

Tryna make a VLS be able to detect vehicles on its own, aswell as lock onto IR targets and not sure how
atm it can only detect stuff from the sensor it seems

not sure if its something on the vehicle or ammo itself

[mortal pumice]

Yeah that’s how I’ve found it to work, at the end of the day I need to make separate p3ds for camo variants anyway so it’s not so bad, I just didn’t want to name it the same as the classname haha

[slow vortex]

Is there a tag I can put to stop my mod from automatically listing itself as a dependency in a mission?

[wintry fox]

addonRootClass in CfgPatches, you'd need to set it to the same addon as whatever class(es) you're modifying

E.g.

class CfgPatches {
    class YourAddon {
        addonRootClass = "SomeOtherAddon";
        requiredAddons[] = {"SomeOtherAddon"};
    };
};

class CfgVehicles {
    // Vehicle defined in SomeOtherAddon, that you're adding things to
    class SomeVehicle {
        foo = "bar";
    };
};

[rancid lotus]

Question for more experienced modders

What are the main differences between PBOProject and HEMTT? Is one better than the other?

[wintry fox]

PBO Project will modify your code a lot, like replacing "true" with 1, which can cause a lot of issues with things

HEMTT is a lot newer and gets a lot more new features. Such as automatically compiling SQF files, pulling command data from the wiki to validate SQF even when offline, etc.

I'd strongly recommend hemtt over any other build tool, it provides way better error checking and has far more features

[rancid lotus]

Huh! Nifty!

I'll give it a try! Any tips for converting my P Drive/projects/etc. to be HEMTT-compatible?

[wintry fox]

It's mostly how you organize your files

In your project's folder you should have a .hemtt folder, which is for hemtt configuration files

Then each of your addons should be placed in their own folders inside an addons folder. E.g. <project>\addons\main, <project>\addons\armor, etc.

The HEMTT Book will have all the steps to set up a project
https://hemtt.dev/installation/index.html

[faint spruce]

How do i remove the default passenger seat of a car ? i tried to leave turrets class empty but it doesn't change anything

[hearty sandal]

Cargo

[wheat sluice]

transportSoldier = 0;

You only need to clear out the Turrets if the vehicle specifically has crew seats (gunner, commander, etc.) and/or it has cargo turrets (FFV seats).

[faint spruce]

thank you very much !

How do i set the driver seat so the driver see from his eyes ? I'm trying but the driver sees from the center of the car

[hearty sandal]

does the driver have a proxy?

the proxy is that defines where the driver is at

[faint spruce]

the driver has a proxy but there is no viewpilot

[hearty sandal]

is the proxy also in the viewpilot lod?

[faint spruce]

i duplicated first resolution lod as viewpilot lod and it worked. It's weird because there is no viewpilot lod in the car sample

[hearty sandal]

yes well

the samples are not exactly complete

[faint spruce]

hmm

[summer fulcrum]

Hello, I am currently porting Napf over to arma 3 (I actually have the source files from the owner momo) but ran into 1 problem, when I use aia (allinarmaterrainpack) everything works, but when I load CUP_Core it has this error (error message:
bin/config.bin/CfgVehicles/Church_Small_F/DestructionEffects/Smoke1Med/: Cannot find base class 'Smoke1Med'), anyone have any ideas?

[sullen fulcrum]

check the rpt for updating base class errors

[finite bronze]

Having some problems with making some grenades for a friend.

I have a friend who asked for some custom grenades but for some reason the "UM_Frag_G_muzzle" and "UM_Smoke_G_muzzle" grenade are showing up in-game on all the weapons as a fire mode when you press F (and you have them equip). If I only delete those two the thing works. Any help?

    class Throw: GrenadeLauncher
    {
        muzzles[]+=
        {
            "UM_Frag_G_muzzle",
            "UM_Krak_G_muzzle",
            "UM_Smoke_G_muzzle",
            "UM_Shock_G_muzzle",
            "UM_Melt_G_muzzle",
            "UM_Plasma_G_muzzle"
        };
        class ThrowMuzzle;
        class UM_Frag_G_muzzle: ThrowMuzzle
        {
            magazines[]=
            {
                "UM_Frag_G_Mag"
            };
        };
        class UM_Krak_G_muzzle: ThrowMuzzle
        {
            magazines[]=
            {
                "UM_Krak_G_Mag"
            };
        };
        class UM_Smoke_G_muzzle: ThrowMuzzle
        {
            magazines[]=
            {
                "UM_Smoke_G_Mag"
            };
        };
        class UM_Shock_G_muzzle: ThrowMuzzle
        {
            magazines[]=
            {
                "UM_Shock_G_Mag"
            };
        };
        class UM_Melt_G_muzzle: ThrowMuzzle
        {
            magazines[]=
            {
                "UM_Melt_G_Mag"
            };
        };
        class UM_Plasma_G_muzzle: ThrowMuzzle
        {
            magazines[]=
            {
                "UM_Plasma_G_Mag"
            };
        };
    };```

[modest surge]

Question regarding import

for a mod, i have a couple of root classes, lets say

class tag_one {
  class base {};
};
class tag_two {
  class base {};
};
class tag_three {
  class base {};
};

Each has its own base base class with the default data structure for each.

this mod also checks missionConfigFile so missionmakers can work with this system.

Now, in the mission, i would like to import these base classes but it seems that this will cuase an "base already defined" error.

// desc.ext
class tag_one {
  import base from tag_one;
};
class tag_two {
  import base from tag_one;
};
class tag_three {
  import base from tag_one;
};

Is this problem just a technical limitation or am i doing something wrong?

[molten musk]

import Default from CfgTasks;
class CfgTasks
{
    class MyAwesomeTask : Default
    {
        name = "My Awesome Task";
    };
};

So

Import base from tag_one;
..

Not inside tag one,
Out of itq

[modest surge]

yea, but the problem is that each of the base are different in purpose/content but have the same classname.

i resolved it by renaming each base to baseOne, baseTwo, ...

[rough hatch]

can inherited HitPoints not be deleted? class HitPoints: HitPoints { delete HitLBWheel; delete HitRBWheel; }; this doesn't work, those hitpoints still remain in my vehicle

[cold terrace]

Hello guys, I'm trying to make a drum mag for the m14 (for now cuz I want it to make it compatible with all the 762x51 vanilla guns... But cant make it work. I'm pretty sure that I'm doing something wrong when talkig about how to make it compat with vanila gun. Can someone help me with this? I'll leave all the code I have (note: pretty green doing code for arma 3)

{
    class 100Rnd_762x51_Mag
    {
        units[]={};
        magazines[]=
        {
            "100Rnd_762x51_Mag"
        };
        requiredVersion=0.1;
        requiredAddons[]=
        {
            "A3_Data_F"
        };
    };
};
class CfgMagazines
{
    class 20Rnd_762x51_Mag;
    class 100Rnd_762x51_Mag : 20Rnd_762x51_Mag
    {
        //author = "Fobia_BG";
        picture = "\762NatoDrum\ui\762natodrumico_paa";
        scope = 2;
        scopeCurator = 2;
        displayName = "7.62x51 Drum Mag-100";
        descriptionShort = "Drum Mag for NATO rifles";
        model = "\762NatoDrum\NatoDrum762.p3d";
        modelSpecial = "\762NatoDrum\proxies\NatoDrum762_Proxy"; 
        modelSpecialIsProxy = 1;
        ammo = "B_762x51_Ball";
        count = 100;
        mass = 24;
        initSpeed = 900;
        tracersEvery = 0;
        lastRoundsTracer = 3;
    };
};
class CfgMagazineWells
{
    class M14_762x51
    {
        BI_Magazines[] =
        {
            "100Rnd_762x51_Mag"
        };
    };
};```

[hearty sandal]

is this config part of larger set or can it be ran on its own

as in has it been tested just with the new grenades added

no other mod content

what Im looking for is that is it the grenade config breaking things or some other config breaking all configs

[hearty sandal]

delete can be tricky

Id recommend just redefining the hitpoint class instead fo inheriting it

[faint spruce]

Why are the characters not taking the exact position they are suppose to take in a car seat ?

[hearty sandal]

where are the proxies?

are the animations made in same positions as the proxies are?

as in are the character armatures in same positions and orientation as the proxies when you make the animations

(I suspect they are not)

[faint spruce]

The armature has the same orientation with the cannon model but the armature is not placed at the exact same place with proxy

[hearty sandal]

thats the problem

[faint spruce]

ohhhh i got it

i forgot to keep the armature at the center

[lean bloom]

You moved the armature. Dont do that.

[hallow quarry]

where do I declare a class for weapon attachments. I want to make a custom class similar to asdg_MuzzleSlot_762

is it cfgweapons,cfgvehicles?

[wheat sluice]

In CfgPatches, change the element in requiredAddons[] to requiredAddons[] = {"A3_Data_F_Decade_Loadorder"};.

Also, I'd suggest changing your CfgPatches name to something that won't be easily confused with an actual magazine classname. It should be your OFPEC tag + name of the addon, so in this case rename it to FobiaBG_762NatoDrum.

[wheat sluice]

Neither. Attachment rail families belong in global space, so you just literally inherit from one of the vanilla global classes and add your own specific attachments to it.
e.g.

class CowsSlot;
class CowsSlot_Rail: CowsSlot
{
    class compatibleItems;
};
class myCustomPicatinnyFamily: CowsSlot_Rail
{
    class compatibleItems: compatibleItems
    {
        myCustomScopeClass = 1;
    };
};

Note that this isn't limited to just optics or side rail/underbarrel attachments. You can create your own muzzle families too that are independent of the vanilla muzzle families:

class MuzzleSlot;
class myCustomStandaloneMuzzleSlot: MuzzleSlot
{
    class compatibleItems
    {
        myCustomFlashSuppressor = 1;
    };
};

Only caveat to this approach is that your muzzle attachment won't be usable on existing weapons until you override the MuzzleSlot class in the weapon to inherit from your global class instead. It's always better to add your attachment to an existing muzzle family instead of creating your own. Unless of course, this attachment of yours will only be used on a few specific weapon classes. In which case, it's fine to stick with this method.

[hallow quarry]

Yea I want to make a few custom 9x39 suppressors for an AK-9 I'm making

In the list it will be the cup groza suppressor and the custom ones

[cold terrace]

Okok! I'll try that!

The CfgPatches name is the string inside magazines... Right? 😅

[wintry tartan]

No. Just copy and paste what drebin suggested

[wheat sluice]

No. See below:

class CfgPatches
{
    class FobiaBG_762NatoDrum // This is the addon name
    {
        units[] = 
        {
        };
        magazines[] = 
        {
            "100Rnd_762x51_Mag"
        };
        requiredVersion = 0.1;
        requiredAddons[] = 
        {
            "A3_Data_F_Decade_Loadorder" // This is the list of addons that need to be loaded first
        };
    };
};

[cold terrace]

Understood. Thanks! 😄

[toxic solar]

does tankX simulation support class Damage? I am noticing that tanks dont have their rvmats change as health gets lower where as with CarX it does

well I see the merkava doesnt atleast

[wheat sluice]

No. It works fine on other tanks.
https://i.imgur.com/3lJwSyU.png
Something must've broke the Slammer's rvmats.

[toxic solar]

ah okay, ill copy the others rvmats I was using merkavs lol

[toxic solar]

Okay tried using T-14 damage materials and still no success. my model does have hiddenselections that work, and the texture path is correct

class Damage 
{
    tex[] = {};
    mat[] = {
        "pr_unsc\viper\data\exteriorbody.rvmat",
        "a3\Armor_F_Tank\mbt_04\data\MBT_04_exterior_1_damage.rvmat",
        "a3\Armor_F_Tank\mbt_04\data\MBT_04_exterior_1_destruct.rvmat"
    };
};

is there anything else I need?

[brazen merlin]

finally

[toxic solar]

my problem was I didnt have the right visual set in hitpoints class

[atomic spoke]

question coming 3 years later, how can I achieve that? haha

I also want to patch script

overwrite a .sqf file to be more precise

[grand zinc]

Depends how the original mod is made, does it use CfgFunctions, then its very easy.
if not then.. its harder

[atomic spoke]

yeah they made it with CfgFunctions

I've deleted every single one of them except the one I'm modifying it

changed the file path in my patch mod's path

and I'm also changing the CfgFunction line in cpp

sorry I'll ask total noob questions

I'm trying to make the mod with GPT

I'm basically trying to make a patch to ITN

also asked for consent on author about using their scripts

that's why I'm trying to use the required addon

they also helping me making the patch mod we're stuck on somewhere for some reason the game's not recognizing the file structure of my mod

I'm sure the .sqf works because when I tried it on the og mod first it worked

[wintry tartan]

Using ChatGPT and pboManager are the biggest issues

[atomic spoke]

I just want the ITN laser look visible to everyone 😭

gpt made the laser work thou

[grand zinc]

You need to set a pbo prefix (to fix your filepath)
I don't know if pbo manager can do that

[wintry tartan]

"just" is not an objection you can use in this context

[grand zinc]

Your prefix would be "itn patch\addons\itnpatch"
I recommend not using spaces in paths

[wintry tartan]

pboManager actually can do it through the gear icon, though

[brazen merlin]

this is completely wrong

[atomic spoke]

made it work!!

[mortal pumice]

Im pretty sure I know the workaround is to make a useraction that heals the player but, is there a way with

attendant = 1;

to limit the radius the player can heal at and give it a position? I wish for players to be able to heal but to do so at the first aid lockers located on the walls of a structure so they actually go inside.

[hearty sandal]

make the locker separate object?

I dont think there is range/position parameter for it

[mortal pumice]

Yeah not that I can find for it, seperate object then scripted into place like the carrier could be interesting. But I feel as if thats more intensive then just making a useraction haha

[nimble sequoia]

It might possibly be related to supplyRadius =

[mortal pumice]

I feel like thats for transportfuel etc.

[nimble sequoia]

yeah, but I've used it previously in an ambulance...so might be worth you checking

[novel lava]

im pretty sure it limits interaction too

like being able to access inventory of a vehicle? or maybe im misremembering

[nimble sequoia]

there's also a mem point

[novel lava]

like the distance you can be from the memorypoint

[nimble sequoia]

memoryPointSupply = possibly works with medical attendant distance

often named doplnovani

[hearty sandal]

👍 solid idea to try they could all be linked

[brazen merlin]

anyone knows of the top of the head if the torqueCurve or the GearboxRatios influence maximum vehicle speed?

maxOmega has a big influence, but it also drives up the RPM

[nimble sequoia]

Yes, especially on hills

[brazen merlin]

it's so funny, i have encoded like 5 or 6 vehicles by now and still every time it feels like i have never done this ever before.

ok, now my only issue is that the speed number is "stuttering" .. it's almost like it wants to go higher, but can't, so it jumps one number down. up, down, up, down, until it finally manages to increase.

it's not noticeable when driving, but you see it on the display

[nimble sequoia]

Bad gear ratios relative to the torque and/or engine power

[brazen merlin]

hm

[nimble sequoia]

use dev branch diagnostic and EPEVehicle

[brazen merlin]

EPEVehicle is quite exhausting. anything specific i have to look out for?

[nimble sequoia]

rpm, gear in use and how it's trying (or failing) to get to the next one

Is it tankx or carx?

[brazen merlin]

carx

[nimble sequoia]

For carx I typically use absolutely realistic torque curves and gear box ratio's

[brazen merlin]

not sure how well that works. my vehicle has 14 wheels 😄

[nimble sequoia]

7 each side or 14 x2?

[brazen merlin]

7 each side

it's more or less a test

[nimble sequoia]

should be ok, bit of a wheeled APC then

[brazen merlin]

hm. maybe i should just try some wheeled apc gearbox

i am already in highest gear. my top speed is set for approx 110km/h

the number goes more smooth, but it's still kinda stuttering all the way up to 110

problem is, i dont even really know how to read that table

it's almost ok, probably just needs a nudge in either direction

[nimble sequoia]

If you're able to get to top speed, top gear, your torque curve and engine power are sufficient - if it goes from 1st to 6th in the blink of an eye, then maybe overpowered. But generally you'll want to play with the gear ratio's and the changeGearMinEffectivity OR changeGearOmegaRatios[] depending on what you have set for changeGearType

[brazen merlin]

actually i havent set those at all. guess it is using default values right now

[nimble sequoia]

If you haven't set or inherited changeGearType = "rpmratio"; then you'll be using changeGearMinEffectivity[].
Typical values are
changeGearMinEffectivity[] = {0.95, 0.15, 0.95, 0.95, 0.95, 0.95};
but you'll want to make sure there is an entry for each gear and perhaps adjust the 5th/6th gear values down a bit

[brazen merlin]

alright. will check it out. thanks

[nimble sequoia]

that's often where "jitteriness" in switching gears comes from - a little too sensitive on the conditions for switching

[brazen merlin]

not sure if it's jittering while switching gears, though. it seems to jitter even inbetween

i notice the rpm jumping pretty heavily though. they keep going from 3k to 4k and back

[nimble sequoia]

Check you haven't got "wheel spin".
Factors affecting that include differentialType engineMOI frictionVsSlipGraph torqueCurve[]

[brazen merlin]

i hate that every tiny problem can have 10 causes

[nimble sequoia]

Do you not own a real car? 😉

[brazen merlin]

only a bike

never liked driving car

[nimble sequoia]

They've modelled the pain of garage inspections far too well

But it does mean you can get quite a nice simulation if you can master all the intricacies

[brazen merlin]

tbh i cant believe someone did this stuff with just pushing numbers in notepad

all of this looks like it requires some tools

[outer wyvern]

Hello, exist some easy way to export composition of object for making own mod ?

because listing 300+ objects manually seems extremely difficult to me.

[pallid sierra]

300+ objects for a composition sounds difficult on the frame rate too...

Got a more narrow example of what you want to do? Probably a script way to gather.

[outer wyvern]

Here is small example of format what i use to my composition in mod (#1), but But when I looked a lot of compositions in other mods (Achilles etc..) use for compositions format #2 as separate hpp files but I didn't find anywhere a way of some simple exporotation from eden editor to one of the mentioned formats so that I don't have to manually write out every single item..

class CfgPatches
{
    class clan_composition
    {
        requiredVersion=1.5;
        requiredAddons[]={"A3_Data_F_Decade_Loadorder"};
        units[]={};
        weapons[]={};
    };
};
class CfgGroups
{
    class Empty
    {
        side=8;
        name="Compositions";
        class RR_Clan_Compositions
        {
            name="44. RR Compositions";
            class RR_Compositions
            {
                name="Clan Compositions";
                class RR_Briefing
                {
                    name="44. Ravens Regiment Briefing";
                    icon="\a3\Ui_f\data\Map\Markers\NATO\b_installation.paa";
                    side=8;
                    class Object1
                    {
                        side=8;
                        vehicle="Land_Mil_WallBig_4m_damaged_left_F";
                        rank="";
                        position[]={-0.546875,-2.09723,-1.10378};
                        dir=270;
                    };
                    class Object2
                    {
                        side=8;
                        vehicle="Land_Mil_WallBig_debris_F";
                        rank="";
                        position[]={-0.210449,-4.7009902,-0.00144672};
                        dir=336.01501;
                    };
                    class Object3
                    {
                        side=8;
                        vehicle="Land_Bunker_01_blocks_3_F";
                        rank="";
                        position[]={4.3852501,2.2302201,-0.00143909};
                        dir=180;
                    };
                    class Object4
                    {
                        side=8;
                        vehicle="Land_Mil_WallBig_4m_damaged_center_F";
                        rank="";
                        position[]={-0.48388699,-4.9716802,-0.372457};
                        dir=270;
                    };

Short version (300+lines file..)

class Object0 {side=8;vehicle="rr_flags_05";position[]={4.4741211,3.9768047,-0.20556641};dir=180;};
class Object1 {side=8;vehicle="Land_Obstacle_Saddle_F";position[]={-1.4697266,0.079113,-11.726563};dir=180.377;};
class Object2 {side=8;vehicle="Land_Obstacle_Saddle_F";position[]={-1.3149414,0.0790129,11.785645};dir=180.377;};
class Object3 {side=8;vehicle="Land_Obstacle_Saddle_F";position[]={-1.4716797,0.0790129,-6.0371094};dir=180.377;};
class Object4 {side=8;vehicle="Land_Obstacle_Saddle_F";position[]={-1.4331055,0.0790129,0.121582};dir=180.377;};
class Object5 {side=8;vehicle="Land_Obstacle_Saddle_F";position[]={-1.3496094,0.0790129,5.949219};dir=180.377;};
class Object6 {side=8;vehicle="Land_Obstacle_Saddle_F";position[]={2.5673828,0.0790129,0.1074219};dir=180.377;};

Is there any easy way to export compositions to one of these formats ?

[sullen fulcrum]

Does anyone know how to modify the visible distance of a light source from a config file? For example, the default missile exhaust flare disappears after flying a certain distance, probably due to engine optimization. I'd like to increase that distance.

[wary bridge]

hello, would anyone happen to know the config parameter and or how to setup the point and area lock that the vanilla planes and uavs cameras / turrets have?

[wheat sluice]

directionStabilized

1 = enabled, 0 = disabled

[wary bridge]

awesome, thank you for that, however im trying to get it to work like a target lock for the marshel, do you have any idea how i could get that working? i tried that and it didnt seem to do anything?

[mortal pumice]

Will give all of this a test together

[wheat sluice]

Are you sure you're not mixing up what "point and area lock" means? What you're asking for now sounds like you want to edit the weapon's Fire Control System. This isn't the same thing as what the targeting pods on aircraft use for point and area locking (directionStabilized is used for locking the camera for point/area targets).

If you want to enable the weapon's FCS, you need to define these two tokens in the weapon (not the vehicle):

• FCSMaxLeadSpeed -> Determines the threshold of how fast the target can be moving at for the FCS computer to calculate autolead. Its value is measured in metres per second (m/s). If you set the value to 0, then it means the FCS computer only calculates autozeroing for stationary targets.
• FCSZeroingDelay -> Determines how long it takes for the FCS targeting computer to calculate the distance + lead (if enabled). Its value is measured in seconds (e.g. FCSZeroingDelay = 2; means that the FCS computer takes 2 seconds to calculate autolead + zeroing).
  https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Targeting_Config_Reference#FCSMaxLeadSpeed

[wary bridge]

No I want the camera lock on the gun, I’m trying to make an AA gun that tracks the target itself, we are using the fire control system as well to get the automatic ranging and everything, but the part we can’t really seem to get working is how to actually make the turret self track, and that was the idea we had with the point and area lock, and I know it does work with ground vehicles bevaude the UGV can do it, so jsut need some help if you’d have any ideas?

[wheat sluice]

Then you use directionStabilized = 1. You need to define it in the turret's optics class.

[wary bridge]

We did that and it didn’t seem to work, it just made the turret keep rotating right for some reason, have u gotten that to work yourself?

[wheat sluice]

class CfgVehicles
{
    class MySuperClass;
    class MyParentClass: MySuperClass
    {
        class Turrets;
    };
    class MyVehicle: MyParentClass
    {
        class Turrets: Turrets
        {
            class MainTurret
            {
                class ViewOptics
                {
                    directionStabilized = 1;
                };
            };
        };

    };
};

[wary bridge]

And this worked for you?

[nimble sequoia]

Do you have limits set on the turret rotation?

[wary bridge]

Wdym?

[wheat sluice]

maxTurn + minTurn

[nimble sequoia]

Yep, if you define them incorrectly it can break things.

[wary bridge]

But it’s a 360 degree turret so what limit would you set?

[wary bridge]

But even with this, it doesn’t actually seem to do anything, we tried doing that yesterday and it just seems to do nothing except break the turret rotation

[nimble sequoia]

I didn't say you should set limits, I asked if you had.

[wary bridge]

Ah, sorry then no

[nimble sequoia]

So what minTurn and maxTurn are you inheriting?

[wary bridge]

Whatever the marshel is by default

None of that was touched

[nimble sequoia]

You want me to go look it up? lol

[wary bridge]

Yeah I don’t really know lol, I’m lost with some of this stuff sorry

[nimble sequoia]

The thing to do is load up the game with your mod, place the vehicle on the map, right click it and choose "find in config viewer" (or something like that).
It will open a config viewer (recommend you download the free Leopards Advanced Developer Tool to improve the config viewer).
In the config viewer you will see every single parameter, those that you have changed, and those that you are inheriting.
Then you can check and be sure what the minTurn and maxTurn settings are. Probably -360 and +360, in which case, not an issue.

[wary bridge]

It is - and + 360

Thank you

[wary bridge]

But if that’s not an issue, would you know why it doesn’t work?

[nimble sequoia]

Can you explain in more detail what happens. You said that the turret just "keeps rotating right". Does it constantly spin, regardless of lock or target? How fast? Does it never go left? Can you get in as a player and control the turret?

[wary bridge]

Yeah so essentially, if you put that parameter into the vehicle, whenever you move your mouse in any direction it literally just rotates the turret right at a normal speed

But there isn’t any target lock or anything, that’s the issue, putting in the directionstabilised parameter doesn’t do anything, have you guys tried it? Has it worked for you?

[nimble sequoia]

It's tickling my memory of something I encountered while making a tank about 3 years ago - I'll check my notes

[wary bridge]

Alright, thank you 🙂

[nimble sequoia]

Found it... seems like it's a game engine bug with directionStabilized = 1;

[wary bridge]

I see, do you know of any way to fix it or get around it?

[nimble sequoia]

Not off the top of my head unfortunately. At least you now know what causes it.
I'd be looking at other examples where they do what you want - something like the Fan Song Radar in SOG: PF DLC which tracks aircraft with a turning turret.

[brazen merlin]

more carx questions. can someone explain to me how the engine knows what "HitLBWheel" etc is?

i know that hitpoints in the model file are the config class hitpoint name. but does the config class name matter?

how does the game know which wheel corresponds to which hit point?

wheel config doesnt seem to refer to hitpoint classes

[brazen merlin]

maybe it's taking the base from the wheel mask config property?

if the wheel is 1_3, then wheel_1_3_damage would be the visual, which is defined in the hitpoint config?

[brazen merlin]

could it be that the game "only" supports 4x4 wheel setups?

i mean, at least hitpoint related?

[narrow swallow]

Are you talking about for hide/show damaged wheel, or making physx wheel change after damage?

[brazen merlin]

i'm trying to figure out how the game knows which wheel is what hitpoint

[fickle minnow]

Does anyone know how to go about retexturing optics?
The default game config does not seem to use hiddenSelectionsTextures on optics like the ARCO, but instead the p3d file has the color in it.

There is a .paa file in the pbo, but I can not see where the config uses this, if at all.

As far as I know you are not allowed to edit p3d files, so the only path would be if there is a way to apply a new texture to the optic via the config.

I could not find a guide for this online.

[brazen merlin]

like, how does the game know which of my class wheels entries is "HitLFWheel" and which one is "HitLF2Wheel" etc

is it the entry order in class wheels? or does it somehow physically detect it ingame? 😄 (game knows where the front is, so could just count?) i dunno.

or can i just do HitLF3Wheel, HitLF4Wheel and magically it works? (i doubt it, but i just cant find any information about this)

[brazen merlin]

optics cant be retextured in config. you have to make your own model.

[fickle minnow]

Okay, thank you for telling me

I will abandon that idea

[narrow swallow]

I mean the base game hemtt wheel classes don't match anything

[brazen merlin]

nah, it's the same setup as the rest. also 8 wheels

[hearty sandal]

wheel damage bone is typically before the functional wheel and when hitpoint hides it on damage then the functional wheel stops existing I think

[brazen merlin]

for some reason the name is always wheel_X_X_steering even if it's not a wheel that is steering

[brazen merlin]

dunno. i made a completely new hitpoint class but gave it the name and armor component etc. of wheel_1_3_steering - when i damaged the hitpoint via script, the wheel was undamaged. however, if i actually shot the wheel, the hitpoint got damaged

hm. wait a moment. did i just answer my own question

shooting the wheel affects the hitpoint - but script doesnt

so damaging the wheel was "transmitting" the values to the hitpoint.. but the custom hitpoint does not send the damage back to the wheel if you damage it via script

[mortal pumice]

So after testing It looks like It does work, but unfortunately I seem to only be able to set one point to be the memory point, If I add more like so:

memoryPointSupply = "medical_supply_1","medical_supply_2","medical_supply_3","medical_supply_4";

It breaks the restriction but limits it to 1m around the bounds of the object by the looks of it. If I define just one it works just near that one point

Its entirely possible I would need to format the multiple entries differently but im not sure how

memoryPointSupply[] = {"medical_supply_1","medical_supply_2","medical_supply_3","medical_supply_4"};

Tried the above to no avail

[wintry fox]

Pretty certain that an object can only have one supply point

[mortal pumice]

Yeah it does seem that way

The structure I have has 4 medical lockers, one on each corner so wanted to make it more like you were going to the locker rather than just being by the building

[nimble sequoia]

As Dart says, I'm also fairly sure, without checking to be 100%, that it's restricted to a single point and a circle around it.

[wintry fox]

Best you can do is probably have the lockers as separate objects that are placed with the building. You can probably use the multi part structure stuff for the aircraft carrier

Then make those the healing objects

[rancid lotus]

Building on this: How hard is it to convert a PBOProject-compatible GitHub repository to HEMTT?

[wintry fox]

No clue, I only used PBO Project with a fresh repo for like 20 mins because I hated the changes it was making to my code

[rancid lotus]

Fair 🤣

Good to know

[rancid lotus]

Trying to play around with HEMTT, getting this error when I try to do hemtt build:

IO Error: The system cannot find the path specified. (os error 3)```

Current config as follows: ```name = "41st ODST Internal Assets"
prefix = "41st_ODST_Internal_Assets"
mainprefix = "41MOD"

[version]
major = 1
minor = 9
patch = 5

build = 0

[hemtt.build]
pdrive = "require"

[hemtt.check]
pdrive = "ignore"```

[rancid lotus]

Any tips?

[wintry fox]

Do you have a repo for that?

[rancid lotus]

Currently only a local Git repo I don't intend on publishing to GitHub since this is just experimental

[wintry fox]

Is there anything else in the error there?
Can also try passing -v (more v's = more logging) to see if anything else sticks out

[rancid lotus]

Sure, wilco

Nope, nothing further

[wintry fox]

hemtt build -v

[rancid lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-les-simpson-matt-groening-ouff-non-gif-11592092171817688539

One sec

[rancid lotus]

Same result

Got something

May not be able to find Binarize

[wintry fox]

Could you publish that repo?
Only weird thing with what you've sent is the really long prefix, but that shouldn't cause an error like that

[rancid lotus]

Yeah, that prefix exists from when I was still learning through AddonBuilder and unfortunately it stuck

[wintry fox]

Well yeah, the -v just logs more stuff, the logic is all the same

[wintry fox]

prefix in hemtt.toml is used for what your built pbos are named
Technically your actual $PBOPREFIX$ files can have whatever format you want, though file patching won't work without some manual changes

[rancid lotus]

OHHHHHHHHHHHH

Okay, that's kind of whacky

Dunno if I like that

It'd make sense for a brand-new addon but porting it over from PBOProject is going to be a pain

Let me keep trying

[wintry fox]

It's so you can have things like a cba settings config, which explicitly checks a specific path

[rancid lotus]

Ahhhh. So I see

[rancid lotus]

Either way, -vvv log says that it probably can't find my binarize.exe path

Tips on how to fix?

[wintry fox]

I forget if A3 tools has a way to manually re-set the registry values or not

[rancid lotus]

😭

I'll check

[wintry fox]

There's this?

[rancid lotus]

Awesome, thanks

Checking

No joy

[wintry fox]

Might go to https://discord.com/channels/976165959041679380/1039189045655392389 (hemtt channel, ace discord). I never ran into any issues with it finding the tools

[rancid lotus]

Log says this: ArmAWorkPath path is "C:\PROGRA~2\Steam\STEAMA~1\common\ARMA3T~1" - Registry value

Possibly borked?

[wintry fox]

Potentially, mine says ArmAWorkPath path is "D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Arma 3 Tools\" - Registry value

[rancid lotus]

How would I go about fixing that?

[rancid lotus]

I'll check it out, thanks

Yeah, HEMTT seems really cool, but so far I'm not impressed with how tough it is to be porting in existing projects 😅

[narrow swallow]

There's always reinstalling

[rancid lotus]

Will try it

[rancid lotus]

Didn't work

[narrow swallow]

I have this

Arma 3 path is "C:\PROGRA~2\Steam\STEAMA~1\common\ARMA3~1\"
ArmAWorkPath path is "E:\Steam Library\steamapps\common\ARMA3T~1\" - Registry value

so that seems fine?
Have you run Arma 3 Tools from Steam since it last updated?

[jagged brook]

I tried to patch an ace magazine and got this error. Did I do it wrong or can you not patch values for ace shiz?

[wintry fox]

You can, but you shouldn't prefix your mod ace_...

[jagged brook]

okay. ill change the class name and see if that works.

[jagged brook]

Thank you! Removing "ace" from the class name under CfgPatches fixed the problem.

[wintry fox]

You should still have your own unique prefix for addons, e.g. zip (for zipper), but you can use whatever you'd like

[toxic solar]

For the T-14k in class hitpoint, why is the visual value for hithull zbytek? why not the hiddenselection Camo1 since I think thats also the hull

class HitHull: HitHull
{
    armor = 2.5;
    material = -1;
    armorComponent = "hit_hull";
    name = "hit_hull_point";
    visual = "zbytek"; //this part
    passThrough = 1;
    minimalHit = 0.2;
    explosionShielding = 0.2;
    radius = 0.3;
};

[nimble sequoia]

zbytek usually covers all the rest of the textures to receive damage which are not already directly specified in another hitpoint class, and as such it would be unusual for it to be a single texture. camo selections are reserved for hiddenSelection functionality. Best not to mix the two up, especially given that adding an extra selection name in the p3d costs nothing.

[toxic solar]

oh okay, so lets say camo1 is my hull on my tank, I shouldnt use camo1 for the visual in hitpoint but say like like hulldmg or something else. Would I then also use hulldmg in the config for CfgNonAIVehicles so that the wreck carries over the same texture but with wreck rvmat?

[nimble sequoia]

There are multiple questions in there...
Are you using a separate wreck p3d with destrType = "DestructWreck";?

[toxic solar]

Yes

Inheriting off merkava which should have that, and when tank dies it switches to wreck model, but textures are not copied over

[nimble sequoia]

So zbytek and other class Hitpoint visual = entries are used to apply class Damage textures in triplets to the main model.
When the vehicle is completely destroyed it switches to the wreck model - that wreck model will have damage materials applied to it directly in it's p3d. It can also have the same hiddenSelections (camo etc) which when used with ProxyRetex in CfgNonAIVehicles, allow the chosen camo scheme from the alive vehicle to be carried over to the wreck.

[toxic solar]

Okay so hitpoint config should be good

class HitHull 
{
    armor = 2.8;
    armorComponent = "hull_hit"; //fire geo
    explosionShielding = 0.2;
    material = -1;
    minimalHit = 0.2;
    name = "hull_hit"; //hit point lod
    passThrough = 1;
    radius = 0.3;
    visual = "zbytek"; // visual lods for changing dmg
};

my class Damage should also be good (aside from using basegame rvmat but that doesnt matter for now)
zbytek is in model cfg for tank
added sections for wreck model in model.cfg

config for CfgNonAIVehicles of the wreck with hiddenselections

1st image is tank at full health, 2nd is when its dropped a bit, but when it goes to wreck its the 3rd image where it does copy the hiddenselection but not rvmat?

[nimble sequoia]

You've got an errant "a" at the start of your config (or a typo in this post of it).
Are you making this model + wreck, or trying to adjust an existing one through config? (that is, can you edit the wreck p3d?)

[toxic solar]

yea woops type in posting lol

I can edit wreck p3d its fully mine

[nimble sequoia]

So as I mentioned earlier, you should apply destruction materials (rvmat's) to your wreck model textures directly in the p3d.

[toxic solar]

this is wat the wreck p3d looks like, has the wreck rvmats

[nimble sequoia]

But you are not seeing that model at all when you believe it is switching to a wreck?

[toxic solar]

it does switch to wreck model (lack of turret), and the texture copies over, but doesnt have the wreck rvmat

sorry my picture was bad

ill take some better ones, 1 sec

Full health, 28% health, and then dead

[nimble sequoia]

You are using a Wreck LOD in your main p3d?
Suggest you temporarily remove the cfgNonAIVehicles and ProxyRetex as a test.

[toxic solar]

Yes using wreck lod in main p3d

Should I not be?

[nimble sequoia]

No, that's correct.

[toxic solar]

Okay ill comment out the cfgNonAIVehicles stuff

[nimble sequoia]

Perhaps you've got hiddenSelectionsMaterials in the main model and that's being carried over to the wreck as well as the hiddenSelectionsTextures

[toxic solar]

I do have hiddenSelectionsMaterials defined in config

[nimble sequoia]

yeah, so comment out the proxyretex for now then and observe any change

[toxic solar]

okay trying now

Okay so damaged, wreck

[nimble sequoia]

Good...so what does your CfgNonAIVehicles code look like?

[toxic solar]

commented out, I didnt have ProxyM700_viper_wreck defined

[nimble sequoia]

I don't understand your last comment.
Anyway, code looks ok, assuming that

• your wreck p3d is called M700_viper_wreck
• you have matched the camo selections in both models
• you have a model.cfg with defined sections in the same folder as your wreck p3d

It's possible that hiddenSelectionsMaterials breaks the proxyRetex, as it has had issues in the past with breaking damage textures.

[toxic solar]

when u said remove the cfgNonAIVehicles and ProxyRetex as a test, did you mean just comment them out?

[toxic solar]

Okay ill try then removing that from config and see how that works

[nimble sequoia]

comment out, yes

as in

class CfgNonAIVehicles {...};
*/```

[toxic solar]

Okay so for this next test, ill bring back CfgNonAIVehicles, and then remove hiddenSelectionsMaterials from config

[nimble sequoia]

yes, good test

[toxic solar]

I love testing

[toxic solar]

omg that was it lol

thats wild

damn can I get the past 3 hours back

welp ty

[nimble sequoia]

It was only fairly recently (last year or so) that we were able to get BI to fix hiddenSelectionMaterials for standard class Damage tex swapping while working on SOG PF vehicles. Not sure it got fixed for characters, and never checked with proxyretex, so could be added as a feedback tracker item if not already present.

[toxic solar]

idk what I would even say tbh

[novel lava]

yeah it overrides it you need to disable any hiddenselectionmaterials for the wreck rvmats to not be overriden

in spearhead we just use

            class SPE_Wreck_MaterialFix
            {
                killed = "_this params ['_vehicle']; {_vehicle setObjectMaterialGlobal [_forEachIndex,'']} forEach (getObjectMaterials _vehicle);";
            };

this is enough to get it working\

[brazen merlin]

i workarounded this with adding more hidden selections

basically setting the texture twice .. one is used in the actual model and the other in the wreck model

this way i was able to prevent rvmat issues

[jagged brook]

Okay. Thanks for the tip, I'll be sure to do that.

[jagged brook]

If anyone has the time today, I would greatly appreciate someone helping me out with a simple config patch. Please DM me.

[pallid sierra]

Are you using hemtt to pack?

[brazen merlin]

am i stupid or is there no model source to detect if headlights are on?

[novel lava]

there isnt lol

[brazen merlin]

🥲

what if i make a fake reflector that isnt visible. it gets its own selection, and that selection i can tie to some other bone.. maybe

good thought, gang. let's try this!

yup, works

[sand fractal]

hiya :), wondering if anyone has made a amphibious tankx vehicle :), currently trying to get a vehicle i am working on to be amphibious with tankx, and even wondering if it is possible, and if anyone has made one before :)

[brazen merlin]

is possible, but ai will not drive it well (or at all)

[nimble sequoia]

A number of us have yes

PT-76, BTR-50, M113 amongst others in SOG Praire Fire. Lexx and others will have examples you could look at in their DLC's no doubt too.

[sand fractal]

Can ya explain how you got it to work? I try driving it after adding the stuff to try to get it to float, and it just drives right in

[sand fractal]

Ahh gotcha gotcha

[nimble sequoia]

You need a Buoyancy LOD and some physx config parameters.

Related parameters in config

canFloat = 1;
engineShiftY = 0.352;                // vertical distance from Centre of Gravity to Engine Effect memory point
maxFordingDepth = 3;
waterAngularDampingCoef = 10;        // higher values will reduce swinging/swaying in all axes
waterDamageEngine = 0.2;
waterLeakiness = 1.5;
waterLinearDampingCoefX = 2.5;       // lateral movements produced by waves
waterLinearDampingCoefY = 2.5;       // vertical movements produced by waves
waterPPInVehicle = 0;                // removes water from the driver/cargo/gunner views
waterResistance = 10;
waterResistanceCoef = 0.6;           // higher value to reduce acceleration and speed```

buoyancy with value 1 in the Geometry LOD property
Very simple (single component) Buoyancy LOD

[sand fractal]

I'll play around with this then, thanks apollo :)

[novel lava]

and make sure you dont have autocenter turned off in the geolod

as it will just 100% break any water interaction (among other things)

[nimble sequoia]

What do you mean? Never have autocenter property in vehicle Geo LOD, only in proxies.
Works fine without it.

[novel lava]

thats what Im saying

default is autocenter 1

so if you set autocenter 0 in the geo lod it breaks all water interaction

[nimble sequoia]

Right, so we're in agreement, cool.
I just tell people never to put any autocenter property in their vehicle.

[hearty sandal]

To be precise I think I was once told autocenter 1 is kind of a third state from the default on 😅

[nimble sequoia]

Yes, I think I remember that too. Advice was to leave it out completely.

[hearty sandal]

yes

[nimble sequoia]

reyhard or dedmen perhaps

[novel lava]

ah really? i never heard that, I always just deleted it whenever I saw it anyway

[hearty sandal]

yeah most likely. funny thing those default engine things 😅

[brazen merlin]

wait, so autocenter 1 break stuff?

or 0 as well?

[hearty sandal]

autocenter 1 is not really ever used. its effects are unknown.

normally its eiher default state autocentering on or disabled autocenter=0

[brazen merlin]

oh wow, indeed. just tested it - added autocenter 0 and my vehicle just went through the water as if it doesnt exist

[hearty sandal]

howabout with ac = 1

[brazen merlin]

i rather not even try 😄

[hearty sandal]

there is a chance of portal to another world opening

[brazen merlin]

it would probably unlock double fps. this is too powerful

[brazen merlin]

why are all hitpoints swapped by default? 🥲

most of the class names don't match with the hitpoint names

actually seems only LB/RB and LF2/RF2 are swapped

[grave steppe]

Is there anyway to actually calculate the following values:

ace_railHeightAboveBore
ace_railBaseAngle
ace_ironSightBaseAngle
ace_scopeHeightAboveRail

I have scoured the web looking for any kind of answer but to no avail.
This causes issues I believe with the ace_scopeZeroRange value. For example if set as ace_scopeZeroRange=33; I would expect the rounds to impact at 33 meters directly where the optic is aimed, however there is always a pretty big offset (a few centimeters).

[pallid sierra]

All the ace stuff is available on the GitHub. All of the code is public.

[novel lava]

on this subject, do you know what determines a vehicle is going to start filling with water? I thought it was maxfordingdepth but while that means the engine starts taking damage, thje vehicle doesn't start sinking

[nimble sequoia]

maxFordingDepth determines the depth of water that a non-amphibious vehicle can drive through without the water starting to flood in and eventually kill the engine based on waterLeakiness
How a vehicle sinks is related to the Geometry LOD mass and CofG, in comparison to the Buoyancy LOD shape and size.
Move the CofG off-centre and it will sink nose or tail first. Increase the buoyancy LOD volume to make it sink more slowly.

[novel lava]

yeah I ended up figuring out the issue was volume

as the intention was to make it sink but instead it was floating forever

[nimble sequoia]

Just remember for an amphib, that if it's sinking, it's probably already a wreck, so that has to have a buoyancy LOD too.

[novel lava]

this is for a non-amphib

this was a truck that I wanted to have sink, ideally it would float for a bit and then sink

but I'm starting to think this is more binary

where it either floats forever or starts sinking immediately

[nimble sequoia]

All vehicles should have buoyancy LOD's anyway. I think the diagnostic exe shouts at you if you don't include one.

[novel lava]

I think it only shouts if the physx is too complex

as it uses that instead

it does shout if buoyancy 1 isn't set though

[nimble sequoia]

Which it always will be (more than 1 component)

[novel lava]

which makes me wonder why that isn't just the engine default then

[nimble sequoia]

Because not every object is physx probably - could be just car sim, not carx

I imagine buoyancy and sinking were added into Arma at some point

[brazen merlin]

hm. my vehicle has tire tire squealing for one or two seconds when starting a mission or starting to drive and stopping. not sure what is causing it. i already checked the wheels, the center of mass, did super high damper values for a test

feels like there is tire slip, but it's weird

could it be the dampers are not strong enough and it's hugging the ground too much?

[nimble sequoia]

Sounds like too much torque applied through the transmission to the wheels in relation to the tyre friction.
Check what the rpm is doing using EPEVehicle.
Potential fixes might include lowering the gearboxRatios[] D1 value, increasing the engineMOI, checking correct differentialType, increasing thrustDelay, increasing longitudinalStiffnessPerUnitGravity, modifying frictionVsSlipGraph[]

[brazen merlin]

i found out that it is playing the hard breaking sfx

so basically it tries to break hard even though we are already stopped

[nimble sequoia]

Was this carx or tankx?

[brazen merlin]

carx

is maxBrakeTorque only applied if i break on my own?

[nimble sequoia]

What do you have for
dampingRateFullThrottle
brakeIdleSpeed
dampingRate (in class Wheels)

[brazen merlin]

dampingRateFullThrottle = 0.1;

[nimble sequoia]

No, also applied below brakeIdleSpeed

[brazen merlin]

brakeIdleSpeed = 2.175; because it would keep rolling with 7km/h

dampingRate = 0.15;

i had it fixed already earlier today, but then i reverted the file for other reasons and then realized that i forgot how i fixed this 😄

i mean, there is another solution.. i could disable the sfx or change the conditions

[nimble sequoia]

recommend trying
dampingRateFullThrottle = 0.08;
brakeIdleSpeed = 1.78;
dampingRate = 1;

[brazen merlin]

ok, will try shortly

[nimble sequoia]

Unfortunately can't hang around right now, so gl!

[brazen merlin]

tbh at this point i think this is rather a sound config issue

so i will probably not bother with it much more and instead change the sfx condition

[chilly tulip]

There's a vanilla vehicle (Ifrit?) that makes some sort of tire slip noise that's weirdly audible at like a kilometer out.

[nimble sequoia]

Getting the physx right just takes time, with lots of interconnected parameters. Also makes it powerful tool.

[brazen merlin]

yeah. everything else feels pretty good by now. at this point it's just an autism detector

[chilly tulip]

I suspect modders tend to stop before getting to the AI steering behaviours

need to fix that CUP Bradley doing the perma-wiggle at some point

[brazen merlin]

i feel like the ai steering behavior is usually good and doesnt need to be touched. if the ai cant handle your vehicle, the issue is often in the vehicle config.

[tacit zealot]

Any way to figure out what sensor animDirection matches the pilotCamera? I've checked the model.cfg of the asset I'm working with, and none of the classes listed are for a camera direction.

[brazen merlin]

ok, i see now the issue with the ai steering 😄 seems ai cant hold the speed of my vehicle. it keeps jumping gears and just stutters around. looks like the default config is not made with slow vehicles in mind

[stark oasis]

hello guys, im getting this error, and im wondering why. I have no other mods loaded besides the mod I created and CBA_A3. Whenever I open up my inventory it shows me this but i have nothing in my config nor my model cfg that goes to this. any solutions?

[wintry tartan]

Post the config you made

[stark oasis]

class CfgPatches
{
    class dji_nvg
    {
        magazines[] = {};
        ammo[] = {};
        units[] = {};
        weapons[] = {};
        requiredVersion = 0.1;
        requiredAddons[] =
        {
            "A3_Data_F",
            "A3_Weapons_F",
            "A3_Characters_F",
            "A3_Characters_F_BLUFOR",
            "Extended_EventHandlers"
        };
    };
};
class CfgWeapons
{
    class ItemCore;
    class UniformItem;
    class Uniform_Base;
    class VestItem;
    class NVGoggles;
    class InventoryItem_Base_F;
    class HeadgearItem : InventoryItem_Base_F
    {
        class ItemInfo;
        class HeadgearItem;
    };
    class DJI_D : NVGoggles
    {
        author = "chonk";
        scope = 2;
        scopeArsenal = 2;
        eden = 2;
        displayName = "DJI Goggles";
        model = "DJINVG\model\dji_d.p3d";
        picture = "DJINVG\ui\1";
        ace_nightvision_generation = 3;
        ace_nightvision_bluRadius = 0.3500002;
        modelOptics = "DJINVG\tx\optic\dji_optic.p3d";
        nameSound = "nvgoggles";
        hiddenSelections[] = { "" };
        hiddenSelectionsTextures[] = { "" };
        class ItemInfo
        {
            type = 616;
            hmdType = 0;
            uniformModel = "DJINVG\model\dji_d.p3d";
            modelOff = "DJINVG\model\dji_u.p3d";
            hiddenSelections[] = { "" };
            hiddenSelectionsTextures[] = { "" };
            mass = 1;
        };
        scopeCurator = 2;
        weaponPoolAvailable = 1;
    };
};
class CfgGlasses
{
    class None;
    class G_Combat : None
    {
        class ItemInfo;
    };
    class DJI_F : G_Combat
    {
        author = "chonk";
        scope = 2;
        scopeArsenal = 2;
        displayName = "DJI Goggles (Facewear)";
        model = "DJINVG\model\dji_f.p3d";
        picture = "DJINVG\ui\1";
        hiddenSelections[] = { "" };
        hiddenSelectionsTextures[] = { "" };
        class ItemInfo
        {
            type = 4;
            uniformModel = "DJINVG\model\dji_f.p3d";
            modelOff = "";
            hiddenSelections[] = { "" };
            hiddenSelectionsTextures[] = { "" };
            mass = 1;
        };
    };
};
class cfgMods
{
    author = "chonk";
    timepacked = "1608061581";
};

@wintry tartan

I removed .paa from "1" because it was saying .paa.paa before

[wintry tartan]

Put backslash \ as the first character of picture parameters

[stark oasis]

alright

im going to do that for everything just incase

[wintry tartan]

No just picture matters

[stark oasis]

ah ok

yeeeeeeeeeees @wintry tartan it worked thank you

[wintry tartan]

It is an infamous engine "feature"

[stark oasis]

💀 classic

[wintry tartan]

Don't just bother to understand why

[toxic solar]

I am having a bit of trouble with rvmats for class damage. So the below works fine

class Damage
{
    tex[]={};
    mat[]=
    {
        "path\to\rvmat.rvmat",
        "a3\Armor_F_Tank\mbt_04\data\MBT_04_exterior_1_damage.rvmat",
        "a3\Armor_F_Tank\mbt_04\data\MBT_04_exterior_1_destruct.rvmat"
    };
};

now if I were to copy those two rvmats into my addon (and for sake of example I didnt change any of the paths in the rvmat for nohq/smdi/as) and then just do this (and ik it works cause the wreck p3d shows up with said rvmat)

class Damage
{
    tex[]={};
    mat[]=
    {
        "path\to\rvmat.rvmat",
        "my_mods\path\to\this\MBT_04_exterior_1_damage.rvmat",
        "my_mods\path\to\this\MBT_04_exterior_1_destruct.rvmat"
    };
};

all of a suden when vehicle health goes beyond the thresholds the rvmat doesnt change, is there something im missing?

[nimble sequoia]

Do you have zbytek in the model.cfg sections[]?

[toxic solar]

Do I need zbytek specifically? I have selection just called 'hull' or something like that (sorry not at computer watching UFC fight 🙂 )

[nimble sequoia]

Maybe you forgot to redefine the parameter which ties the section name to class Damage?
selectionDamage = "zbytek";

Generally easier not to mess with conventions and stick to standard naming.

[toxic solar]

AH ha I didn't know that was a thing omg I'll try that when back, is there something for turret too?

Yeah I prob should stick to zbytek it's just well, idk Czech lol 🙂

I just keep forgetting wat the Czech words mean

[novel lava]

selectionDamage is for vehicle overall health

individual hitpoints have their own selections

[toxic solar]

Ah okay I have the individual I think set correctly I'll peep the overall good to know

[strange locust]

I feel this is more of a config question, but if I need to go somewhere else, let me know.

My unit uses a composition as part of our mod, that includes the common modules etc. that we expect from our mission makers. So they can simply place the composition and know they have everything they are expected to have (curator slots, hc, spectator, etc).

But: when the composition is placed, the mp lobby always defaults to the virtual slots tab, instead of BluFor. Is there something i can do to the composition to not take priority?

(Github Link to the composition: https://github.com/TacticalTrainingTeam/ttt_a3/tree/master/addons/common/compositions/basisModule)

[pallid sierra]

This happens due to placement order. You can modify the composition file in the arma profile folder and move things up or down. Or redo it in game. You need the blufor unit placed first.

[fierce dawn]

How do you set the icon of a mod in the arsenal/unit selection?

[wintry tartan]

What icon? The puzzle?

[wintry fox]

There's a couple logo / icon parameters in your mod's mod.cpp, I believe logo is the specific one

[fierce dawn]

Yes

[wintry tartan]

What he said

[frozen bluff]

How do you improve fuel efficiency? Like which way (up or down in value) does it make the engine for a helicopter become better at using fuel?

The FuelConsumptionRate value?

[wintry fox]

Yeah
Wiki says it only works on helicopters, but I don't think that's correct

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/CfgVehicles_Config_Reference#fuelConsumptionRate

It's a multiplier, so 0 means no fuel is used, 1 means the normal amount of fuel is used

[frozen bluff]

Okay, but it's not a 1 or 0 thing, it's a value, like 0.126 for the Ghost Hawk

Nevermind, I'll have to muck with it then

I just read the entry for it

Thanks

[toxic solar]

Okay I added zbytek (hull and tracks of tank) ,added to model cfg and hithull class of hitpoints uses zbytek for visual. But the problem of if I have an rvmat in my mod versus pointing to an rvmat in base game still exists even for areas . So here is my class damage

class Damage
{
    tex[]={};
    mat[] = {
    "PR_UNSC\Viper\data\exteriorbody.rvmat", //works
    "a3\armor_f_beta\APC_Wheeled_01\Data\APC_Wheeled_01_adds_damage.rvmat",
    "a3\armor_f_beta\APC_Wheeled_01\Data\APC_Wheeled_01_adds_destruct.rvmat",

    "PR_UNSC\Viper\data\ExteriorTurret.rvmat", //doesnt work
    "PR_UNSC\Viper\data\damage\APC_Wheeled_01_adds_damage.rvmat",
    "PR_UNSC\Viper\data\damage\APC_Wheeled_01_adds_destruct.rvmat"
    };
};

//Versus

class Damage
{
    tex[]={};
    mat[] = {
    "PR_UNSC\Viper\data\exteriorbody.rvmat", //doesnt work
    "PR_UNSC\Viper\data\damage\APC_Wheeled_01_adds_damage.rvmat",
    "PR_UNSC\Viper\data\damage\APC_Wheeled_01_adds_destruct.rvmat",

    "PR_UNSC\Viper\data\ExteriorTurret.rvmat", // work
    "a3\armor_f_beta\APC_Wheeled_01\Data\APC_Wheeled_01_adds_damage.rvmat",
    "a3\armor_f_beta\APC_Wheeled_01\Data\APC_Wheeled_01_adds_destruct.rvmat"
    };

};

cant think of any reason why this doesnt work 🤔

[nimble sequoia]

You're using a p drive, with mikeros pboProject and game files extracted to p:\a3 ?

[toxic solar]

Yes

though I have not unpacked in a few months

[nimble sequoia]

Post code of first A3 damage rvmat that doesn't work

[toxic solar]

1 sec

class StageTI
{
    texture="a3\armor_f_beta\apc_wheeled_01\data\apc_wheeled_01_adds_ti_ca.paa";
};
ambient[]={1,1,1,1};
diffuse[]={1,1,1,1};
forcedDiffuse[]={0,0,0,1};
emmisive[]={0,0,0,1};
specular[]={0.15000001,0.15000001,0.15000001,1};
specularPower=30;
PixelShaderID="Super";
VertexShaderID="Super";
class Stage1
{
    texture="a3\armor_f_beta\apc_wheeled_01\data\apc_wheeled_01_adds_nohq.paa";
    uvSource="tex";
};
class Stage2
{
    texture="a3\data_f\destruct\damage_metal_cdt.paa";
    uvSource="tex";
    class uvTransform
    {
        aside[]={3,0,0};
        up[]={0,1.5,0};
        dir[]={0,0,0};
        pos[]={0,0,0};
    };
};
class Stage3
{
    texture="a3\data_f\destruct\damage_metal_mc.paa";
    uvSource="tex";
    class uvTransform
    {
        aside[]={2,0,0};
        up[]={0,1,0};
        dir[]={0,0,0};
        pos[]={0,0,0};
    };
};
class Stage4
{
    texture="a3\armor_f_beta\apc_wheeled_01\data\apc_wheeled_01_adds_as.paa";
    uvSource="tex";
};
class Stage5
{
    texture="a3\armor_f_beta\apc_wheeled_01\data\apc_wheeled_01_adds_smdi.paa";
    uvSource="tex";
};
class Stage6
{
    texture="#(ai,64,64,1)fresnel(4.7,1.2)";
    uvSource="tex";
};
class Stage7
{
    texture="a3\data_f\env_land_co.paa";
    useWorldEnvMap="true";
    uvSource="tex";
    class uvTransform
    {
        aside[]={2,0,0};
        up[]={0,1,0};
        dir[]={0,0,0};
        pos[]={0,0,0};
    };
};

@nimble sequoia

ik the rvmat works cause of I just set with setObjectMaterial I can see it work

[nimble sequoia]

Does it really make any sense to use the A3 damage rvmat, given that the nohq, smdi and as textures will be for the A3 APC and not yours?

I always create custom damage and destruct rvmats for each texture

[toxic solar]

correct it looks off right, but then why is it that when I copy the base game rvmat into my mod and point to it, its not applied when the vehicles health changess. but if I point to base game rvmat in class damage then it works

[nimble sequoia]

I thought it was not working via class Damage mat swapping?

[toxic solar]

it works if I do a3\armor_f_beta\APC_Wheeled_01\Data\APC_Wheeled_01_adds_damage.rvmat
but does not work if I do PR_UNSC\Viper\data\damage\APC_Wheeled_01_adds_damage.rvmat which is exact copy of a3\armor_f_beta\APC_Wheeled_01\Data\APC_Wheeled_01_adds_damage.rvmat
and if I manually with scripts set tank setObjectMaterial [0,"PR_UNSC\Viper\data\damage\APC_Wheeled_01_adds_damage.rvmat"]; I can see the rvmat working which tells me the rvmat is correctly made, which leave the question of why does the game not like it when I point to an rvmat in my mod

[nimble sequoia]

Oh I see. So it's your custom rvmat that doesn't work.
pboProject set to catch missing files?

[toxic solar]

Yes. though I just found out something really weird just now 💀

so I have a pbo that I havent built in a while, it has destruct rvmats working. I just rebuilt it, and now it doesnt work 💀 would be wild if packing issue 💀

Like here if I intentionally miss a file it should warn and error out

[nimble sequoia]

Deliberately mis spell the path and check build fails.

[toxic solar]

I did that, it did catch

[nimble sequoia]

Delete temp cache

[toxic solar]

Ok

gonna take a hot second

[toxic solar]

Okay its done, ill rebuild now

[toxic solar]

still no dice 😭

[toxic solar]

Okay so I had a friend build the pbo and for him it works, so I gues its a build issue 💀

but after cleaning temp one more time, and reinstalling pbo project it worked sooooooooooooooooooooooo idk 🙂

[brazen merlin]

my ai driver thinks his vehicle is very, very fast, so will break quite early and hard before doing a turn. can anyone give me pointers to where i should look to tweak this behavior? driving a straight line works fine. just curves are weird.

[maiden pasture]

I'm having an issue with a vehicle turret not working according to my model.cfg. Specifically, I can't get the muzzle flash to rotate, or any other custom anims to work. Only the animationsourcebody, animationsourcegun, & selectionfireanim properties. All the animations work fine in bulldozer, and the turret works without any other issue. I just can't seem to figure out what/how to get the config/game to recognize the anims.

[winter rain]

Would help if you pastebin your config and model.cfg here so people could get a insight to find the problem more quickly

[inland fiber]

Anyone know why my custom faction isn't working? I've followed this guide exactly, but when I go to my directory there is no folder with my faction class name. When I try to export it only will export a config via text. When I save that as config.cpp and pack with with the arma 3 tools it's full of syntax errors. I'm not a programmer, so I have no idea how to fix it at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8amdkyPvJJs

Nvm, ramming my head into the wall eventually got it to make the proper folder. My new issue is that my PBO manager isn't working, when I right click my folder there is no option to pack with PBO

[wintry fox]

Don't use pbo manager, addon builder is the bare minimum tool to use for packing mods

[inland fiber]

I figured some of the vids out there are out of date

What should be my destination folder when packing?

[wintry fox]

Wherever you want

[inland fiber]

🤷‍♂️

[wintry fox]

You have a config error, you may get some better info by turning on extended logging

[inland fiber]

Where does the log file go?

Oh, the logs button

duh

I'm not a programmer so tbh I have zero idea what I should be looking for let alone how to fix it

Here's what it spit out. If anyone has any clue what the issue is be my guest.

[wintry fox]

Sending the config (if it's not too large) would also help if someone spots the exact issue(s)

[inland fiber]

Here's what ORBAT gave me

Gotta go for a bit, if anyone figures something out I would appreciate it.

[inland fiber]

Finally got the PBO to pack properly, but now I know for sure something is wrong with the config. Too bad I am way too uneducated to know what to do to fix it. :)

[chilly tulip]

I think it's this one:
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_AICarSteeringComponent

[brazen merlin]

yes, but it's not very helpful

[chilly tulip]

oh, well

[brazen merlin]

i'm haging over this for the whole weekend already

[chilly tulip]

that's Arma :P

[brazen merlin]

i dont understand the numbers i am supposed to deal with

i've tried high and low values in both extremes, but cant tell what makes things better

for example // remapping of maxSpeed of vehicle, for fast vehicles we want to lower the used speed wtf doese that even mean. this is an array of 2 values. what is "the used speed"? first or second values? is this a range? only god knows

[chilly tulip]

Whenever I have to fix config I know it's going to be two weeks of original research by trial & error.

[brazen merlin]

yeah, usually

then once you are done you think you are invincible, only for it to repeat again next time, lol

[inland fiber]

I know nothing about coding so this is gonna be hell yippee

[chilly tulip]

ok the remap I can take a guess at.

I reckon that can be more than two numbers.

so you could have {35, 50, 70} and {1, 0.8, 0.6} for example

[brazen merlin]

well, speed is not really an issue anymore. it's the breaking before turns

[chilly tulip]

it'll linearly interpolate between those speeds in the first array to find the value from the second array.

Ok, so first, with that remap option, try setting both numbers in remapSpeedScalar to 0.2 and see what it does.

make sure you have doRemapSpeed true

[brazen merlin]

no, i'm not touching speed again 😄 took me a day to get it to work well

[chilly tulip]

but that's the effective speed for calculating how to brake for turning?

[brazen merlin]

my guess is that steerAheadSaturation is the problem. but no clue. value seems quite low already. maybe i need to increase it

it says // remapping of maxSpeed of vehicle, for fast vehicles we want to lower the used speed where do you get that it is related to breaking for turning

[chilly tulip]

I think that's the whole point of this class

"used speed" would be the speed used for the other calculations.

If I'm wrong then changing it will do something else. I could be wrong.

[brazen merlin]

well, i tweaked those values to get the ai to drive smooth forward

from what i could tell it had no influence on turning

[chilly tulip]

huh, ok

[brazen merlin]

well i have no idea.

guess i will look at it again a bit later. for now i need a break

[chilly tulip]

yeah I think you're into the two week trial and error grind here

[hearty sandal]

then you need to get lernt. You got pretty long config for someone who dont know anything.
So first thing you do is you remove everything from the config and then add things back one by one and for each thing you find out what it does and why you add it

[brazen merlin]

the issue is that there is no real explanation for what exactly those values do. like, i dont even know if i am supposed to increase or decrease them for my needs

[inland fiber]

I just clicked a few buttons and it spit it out for me 🤷‍♂️

[chilly tulip]

Apparently related:
https://robotics.stackexchange.com/questions/9786/how-do-the-pid-parameters-kp-ki-and-kd-affect-the-heading-of-a-differential

[brazen merlin]

kinda wish we had better debug tools which show us clearly what the ai is trying to do

would make tweaking this crap a lot less running blind

oh crap. i did something that improved the situation. i cant remember what it was 😄

i think it was related to steerAheadSaturation

[pastel fog]

Reading stuff on the bohemia wiki will help, and is pretty much the best source to start from
This is a decent place to start: https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Creating_an_Addon, and then google and wiki search as needed
The ALiVE orbat creator generated a hemtt style addon, with CBA stuff, so reading the docs for those will help too

Either Mikero's Tools or HEMTT is better for packing than addon builder, since both check for errors during packing
Addon Builder will accept many errors that completely stop the addon from working (like files with duplicated contents, or missing semicolons)

The biggest issue in your configs is the duplication of everything in your files
It looks almost like the ALIVE orbat generator just output stuff to the files twice

[cursive talon]

Question; where is the designator battery lifetime specified or is this not tweakable?

[inland fiber]

I DID IT

[inland fiber]

Thanks for the info. Starting from scratch with PBO got me through it. I did that a few times but for whatever reason it finally gave me something that works.

[crisp wave]

How can you use a static image for the main menu instead of a mission or video?

[hollow cape]

So I am making a small mod that changes a few parameters I find either unbalanced or illogical. Just as an example: I reduced the capacity of the standard MX mag from 30 to 25. The code works fine and I'm now changing the descriptions and display named to match the new stats. Since this is my first mod I figured the easiest path was to just copy the english text from the appropriate stringtable into the code and then change a few words. However, I have discovered that the formatting (line breaks and such) from the stringtable doesn't work properly when in the config.cpp. Is this fixable in the config or do I now have to learn how to add custom strings?

[hollow cape]

Further examination of the mods i'm using as learning tools revealed the proper syntax for line breaks in the cfg file. Hooray!

[wintry tartan]

Is this a config question?

[hallow quarry]

sorry wrong channel

[mortal pumice]

Does anyone know the steps to configure your own 3den attribute control type?
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Eden_Editor:_Configuring_Attributes:_Controls#List

I want a button that will execute the expression as normal but then will reset the pressed state. At present im using a tickbox but it stays set to "true" for example so when you open up the properties again the checkbox is still ticked, unticking it fires the expression again.

I guess I could make the expression also reset the value of the checkbox but was looking to learn something.

Or is there a hidden button control type thats not listed

[molten musk]

You can use all control types in 3den attributes.
In R3v0 eden echanted mod has lot of different "own controls", if that helps (how to create own and use those)
https://github.com/R3voA3/3den-Enhanced/tree/master/addons/main

[mortal pumice]

Thanks for this i'll take a look

[pallid sierra]

Move to #arma3_gui for more help after you attempt the above

[iron valve]

Sorry to bring up an old thread but I am having this issue as well. Editor placed A.I. tank/AT guns will not fire at threats unless they are within 500 or so meters.
Using Zeus though and placing either AI unit tank/AT gun even beside the editor placed units, will open fire almost immediately at threats at ranges over 1200 meters.
This is all on a dedicated server but even seems running the mission in an MP environment it does the same thing.
I have tried a bunch of mods and some scripting to no avail.
Is this a bug or can it be fixed through scripting?
Happens with mods or no mods.

Editor based units, engagement range super short
Zeus placed units if they see you they shoot

[novel lava]

probably isnt the case but whats your DS viewdistance set to?

[iron valve]

makes no difference

[novel lava]

it does

[iron valve]

default or even 7000

it doesnt

i have tested all this with various settings and it really makes no diffence for the editor placed units.
Zeus placed units will fire at you if they see you at much longer ranges.

[novel lava]

I simply asked what the view distance was, because it does effect AI, they don't engage outside the view distance on a dedicated server.

If you have it set past the distances you're expecting them to engage at then it's not the issue

caveat: AI local to the server, if zeus is being used those units are local to the zeus

[iron valve]

well increasing the VD on server through server launcher or even by game logic seems to have no effect on editor placed AI units.

Placing a unit through Zeus has no limitations other than them not seeing you

[fleet adder]

the cost of shooting a turret and weapon influences the decision of the AI using it or not. You also have to consider if the AI is actually able to hit them using said turret/weapon. In my case, the aligment of the bore vs my animation made the trajectory fo the bullet skew around 5 degress, so it made them impossible to engage in longer distances

[iron valve]

Very easy to replicate. Place your self in an tank and 2 others at the end of the runway on stratis. Run as a MP mission. you can get to within 400 before the AI will shoot at you.
Drop in a tank through Zeus and they start shooting at you around 1200

skill 100% or 50% makes no difference.
I dont seem to recall this happening before in arma 3

run it on a dedicated server and same issues

Could it be a bug?

Again placing unit via Zeus has no limits regardelss of skill level.

[fleet adder]

if you cant make them fire via script at your designated target but do so if the target is closer than or in larger than X distances, its most likely an issue in how the AI calculates the cost of shooting said gun in determined ranges. This has nothing to do with the skill level but how the engine determines is a unit can shoot their weapon or not

[iron valve]

Even using ACE with the ability to modify spotting etc.. Turning those up still has the same result for vehicles placed in the editor. Giving them unlimited ammo has no effect either. Zeus placed units will fire at longer ranges.

[fleet adder]

if such is the case, this is not fixable through code, and the turret config needs tweaking

[iron valve]

What is the difference between a Zeus placed unit or an editor placed one?

[candid hamlet]

Then How you change view distance in dedicated host. like Armahost?

[iron valve]

dont use armahost. Faster or even TADST.

both have option to increase VD.
Again, Zeus placed unit fires at long ranges. Ediot palced unit hardcoded to mission does not. No matetr what settings I use or mods or reveal, they will not shoot at longer ranges.

[candid hamlet]

Zeus placed units use settings from you computer and all calculations as I understand.

[iron valve]

ok so this will be local to said player then?

[candid hamlet]

Also might be skill level taken from your settings too.

[iron valve]

missions are hardcoded to have AI skill at 1

accuracy at .4

my setting are the same

[candid hamlet]

If you set your view settings to 500 and place units does it change ?

[iron valve]

Does the mission settings not override server settings

I dont know. I havent tried setting it that low as I know the AI units will fire at that or under that range

[candid hamlet]

it does if server setting not set to oweride mission settings.

[iron valve]

i dont have it set to override

[candid hamlet]

I will test it too. really interesting topic

also, can you send me you modlist?

[iron valve]

just 3den everything else stock

[faint spruce]

IS there a possibility to give the driver an animated optic, like the gunner with turretInfoType ? I tried to use unitInfoType but the called RscInfoType is not animated

I would like the driver to be able to see the current orientation of the vehicle when he switches to optics

[hearty sandal]

I think yes should be possible

[shell vessel]

CUP Mastiff has a camera view that moves left and right as you steer left and right

[faint spruce]

I'd like to know how i can't figure out. On my submarines for example the driver has an optic and from this optics he can see the current elevation of the submarine, but all i did is to add driverOpticsModel="\A3\weapons_f_beta\reticle\reticle_SDV_driver"; I have abvsolutely no idea how the driver can see the elevation from a p3d and what is animating the elevation

[narrow swallow]

#community_wiki message

[faint spruce]

turretInfoType is not working for the driver of a car and unitInfoType is not animated (on cars at least)

[narrow swallow]

Try the properties under plane there

They are for UI in plane pilot camera

[faint spruce]

Indeed, driverWeaponsInfoType works perfectly, thank you very much

[languid orbit]

Hello, I am currently making an op for my unit and I have run into a wall, the unit mod I am using does not show up in zeus at all and from what I researched it seems it is a Curator Scope problem, is there any way to make a separate addon for it to patch out the issue? The mod author seems to have abandoned the mod.

[hearty sandal]

yes a mod running on top of the original one is possible

your mod would just add patching while original runs at the background

[languid orbit]

I presume in order to do that I'd need to take the config files from the original, copy and fix them, then put it out with a dependency for the original with all due credit?

[hearty sandal]

no

you just need to know the classnames

so your mod would use the original one as dependency through required addons in cfgPatches header

then you would write say

class vehicle1
{
myChange = 350;
};

this would add/overwrite myChange in the vehicle1 coming from the original mod

you dont need all config

you just need the classes you want to change and apply only the changes you want to apply

nothing extra

[languid orbit]

Alright then, Cheers!

[maiden pasture]

Anyone know how to fix this issue?

[maiden pasture]

Nvm. I figured it out.

[runic basin]

Q: What part of a config determines the hit points and/or toughness of an object? There's a building on a map that I want to destroy, but it seems immune to damage, despite it having a damage state in its code. How do I find out how many hit points it has?

armor = 20150; looks like what I'm potentially looking for.

Yeah, I think I found it; a destroyable building I found has armor = 800;.

[novel lava]

20150 is very high for armor

i doubt theres many weapons that could damage that

[wheat sluice]

destrType matters too.

Something that's set to DestructNo will be pretty much invulnerable to all damage sources.

[chilly tulip]

Was there a relationship to the object size too, or did I hallucinate that?

[wheat sluice]

According to reyhard, apparently yes.
#dev_rc_branch message
Although I've no idea if any changes were made to the engine RE: damage interactions since then. Only one of the BI devs can clarify that.

[novel lava]

I encountered the problem recently (arma recently, so a year ago) so it's definitely still the same

Two models, using the same hitpoint config set up.
one died in a few hits, other took 15-20
difference was bounding box size

[oak beacon]

Long story short, after hardware failure I needed to reconstruct next version of my mod. On loading reconstructed version I get this message.

What does this mean and how can I fix it?

[molten musk]

Share your content.

Where did you try to add a new version,
Under cfgPatches?

[oak beacon]

Share the content? There's 36 pbos in the mod, and its about 500 meg. The new version is multiple modified pbos

The error appears in both my local version and a test version I published to workshop.

The overall reconstructed/recovered version consists of a couple of pbos I had to retrieve from my previous published version on Workshop (is this related?) plus new pbos or newly modified pbos

[grand zinc]

It means something tried to read that non-class, as if it were a class.
Could be engine or a script.
With -debug you might see in RPT if it were a script, and you should also see the full path to the problem config entry

[languid orbit]

The system cannot find the drive specified.
File D:\Random dalykai\Lithuanian Army Zeus Fix\addons\Config.cpp, line 49: /cfgVehicles.LT_Infantry: Undefined base class 'rhssaf_soldier_army_para_digital_base'
Config : some input after EndOfFile.
Error reading config file 'D:\Random dalykai\Lithuanian Army Zeus Fix\addons\Config.cpp'
Class destroyed with lock count 1
Press any key to continue . . .

[languid orbit]

managed to fix the issue

removed rhssaf_soldier_army_para_digital_base and other base classes

[oak beacon]

Thanks for your help.

Error turns out to have nothing to do with my mod, and appears even if I dont load it. Does not appear loading just vanilla so it comes from one of my mod's dependencies.

[languid orbit]

Update: I have made the config changes and made the addon without any error outputs, still, the units wont show up in Zeus

[molten musk]

And you have your Game Master module attributes set ->
Default addons
Which addons (ie., object packs) will be available at the beginning. You can unlock more using the Manage Addons module. ->
All addons (including unoffial ones)

[languid orbit]

I did set that

The issue is seemingly with the way the way the mod is configured so I am currently looking for a way to fix the not showing up in zeus despite all addons enabled

ok I just did more digging, it seems the units are missing the scopeCurator and curatorScope settings which could explain why it isnt showing in Zeus

[wintry fox]

scopeCurator is only relevant if explicitly defined, which for vanilla is only really in house objects iirc

Make sure your CfgVehicle classes are listed in the addon's CfgPatches >> units array

[dusk wolf]

I beleave that was a bug in 3den enhanced it should be fixed today with the new patch.

[digital herald]

Is there a reason Land_Pod_Heli_Transport_04_bench_F does not show up in the zeus menu despite being scope 2?

From what I can tell its something to do with it having just cargo turrets?

I would like to inherit from it but I need it to work in the zeus menu

Nevermind it would seem that because it has no driver or main turret it has no crew and therefore does not show in zeus

[wintry tartan]

Usually CfgPatches not lists it is the cause

[wintry fox]

Basic checks are:

1. Vehicle is listed in CfgPatches >> units
2. Crew members' classes are listed in CfgPatches >> units (from the addon where they're defined)
3. If scopeCurator is defined, it must be 2

You should be able to have crewless vehicles show in Zeus

[toxic solar]

sort of audio related, but for say MBT_01_Engine_RPM0_INT_SoundShader there is this huge equation it has for the frequency and volume based on mainly rpm of the tank. the merkava idles at 1400 and red rpms at 3000, but for my tank the values are 1000 to 5000. is there some kind of macro that was used to generate that formula?

[toxic solar]

im talking about this part

frequency = "1.05 * (1 + 0.8 * (((1+0.1*(1 + angVelocity factor[0, 0.5]) *thrust) * ((1-0.9 ) * (speed factor [0, 16.82]) + 0.9  * (rpm factor [1400,    3000])) - 0.2*((abs(speed)) factor [2, 6]) + 0.2*((abs(speed)) factor [0, 4])*((abs(speed)) factor [0, 4]) - 0.3 * (1 - (1 + angVelocity factor[0, 0.5]) *thrust)*((1-0.9 ) * (speed factor [0, 16.82]) + 0.9  * (rpm factor [1400,    3000])) - 0.2*((abs(speed)) factor [2, 6]) + 0.2*((abs(speed)) factor [0, 4])*((abs(speed)) factor [0, 4])) + 0.5*(speed factor[0.3,0]) * ((angVelocity factor[0,0.8]) - (rpm factor [1400,    3000])) - (2400 - 1400)/(3000 - 1400)))";

volume = "engineOn * 1 * 1.2 * (((1+0.1*(1 + angVelocity factor[0, 0.5]) *thrust) * ((1-0.9 ) * (speed factor [0, 16.82]) + 0.9  * (rpm factor [1400,    3000])) - 0.2*((abs(speed)) factor [2, 6]) + 0.2*((abs(speed)) factor [0, 4])*((abs(speed)) factor [0, 4]) - 0.3 * (1 - (1 + angVelocity factor[0, 0.5]) *thrust)*((1-0.9 ) * (speed factor [0, 16.82]) + 0.9  * (rpm factor [1400,    3000])) - 0.2*((abs(speed)) factor [2, 6]) + 0.2*((abs(speed)) factor [0, 4])*((abs(speed)) factor [0, 4])) + 0.5*(speed factor[0.3,0]) * ((angVelocity factor[0,0.8]) - (rpm factor [1400,    3000])) factor[(2200 - 1400)/(3000 - 1400) + (((2400 - 1400)/(3000 - 1400) - (2200 - 1400)/(3000 - 1400)) - (1.2 * ((2400 - 1400)/(3000 - 1400) - (2200 - 1400)/(3000 - 1400))))/2, (2400 - 1400)/(3000 - 1400) - (((2400 - 1400)/(3000 - 1400) - (2200 - 1400)/(3000 - 1400)) - (1.2 * ((2400 - 1400)/(3000 - 1400) - (2200 - 1400)/(3000 - 1400))))/2]) * (((1+0.1*(1 + angVelocity factor[0, 0.5]) *thrust) * ((1-0.9 ) * (speed factor [0, 16.82]) + 0.9  * (rpm factor [1400,    3000])) - 0.2*((abs(speed)) factor [2, 6]) + 0.2*((abs(speed)) factor [0, 4])*((abs(speed)) factor [0, 4]) - 0.3 * (1 - (1 + angVelocity factor[0, 0.5]) *thrust)*((1-0.9 ) * (speed factor [0, 16.82]) + 0.9  * (rpm factor [1400,    3000])) - 0.2*((abs(speed)) factor [2, 6]) + 0.2*((abs(speed)) factor [0, 4])*((abs(speed)) factor [0, 4])) + 0.5*(speed factor[0.3,0]) * ((angVelocity factor[0,0.8]) - (rpm factor [1400,    3000])) factor [(2600 - 1400)/(3000 - 1400) - (((2600 - 1400)/(3000 - 1400) - (2400 - 1400)/(3000 - 1400)) - (1.2 * ((2600 - 1400)/(3000 - 1400) - (2400 - 1400)/(3000 - 1400))))/2, (2400 - 1400)/(3000 - 1400) + (((2600 - 1400)/(3000 - 1400) - (2400 - 1400)/(3000 - 1400)) - (1.2 * ((2600 - 1400)/(3000 - 1400) - (2400 - 1400)/(3000 - 1400))))/2])";
``` where its like yeah anywhere thats 1400 I replace with 1000 and 3000 with 5000, but why is other values like 2600,2400,2200 used

[chilly tulip]

holy fucking shit

ok that's not impossible to reverse engineer :P

[wintry tartan]

It seems they used a very strange software to generate it

[chilly tulip]

It's just recursive macros I think.

This is one unit, I think:
((1-0.9 ) * (speed factor [0, 16.82]) + 0.9 * (rpm factor [1400, 3000]))

So you give that a name and reduce it further until it makes sense.

[novel lava]

yeah its just a bunch of macros, laxemann did similar with the vehicle sounds for spearhead

[cold terrace]

Hey guys, I'm having a hard time with a config for an Optic I'm making. I did what samples shows but my Optic is not shown (even no errors are shown lol!) so I don't know what is wrong but pretty sure it's about the config

for some reason I cant share my config with a simple text here in discord

Heres the file if someone wants to help me 😅

I'm trying to make a 2D optic like MOS so I'm kinda confused since samples has 3d optic test

[brazen merlin]

did you add it to the attachment lists

they need to be in the compatibleItems class

CowsSlot_Rail etc

[wheat sluice]

You need to add your scope to the CowsSlot_Rail class instead like this:

class CowsSlot;
class CowsSlot_Rail: CowsSlot
{
    class compatibleItems
    {
        fbg_optic_exscope = 1;
    };
};

Seems like that article on the BIKI rears its ugly head again with the outdated CowsSlot example being used...

Also, in the future you should avoid overriding arrays if you intend on adding things to an existing class that relies on arrays.
The += (append) operator should always be used for these cases.
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Operators#Config_Operators

e.g This:

    compatibleItems[] =
    {
        "fbg_optic_exscope"
    };

...should be like this:

    compatibleItems[] +=
    {
        "fbg_optic_exscope"
    };

The only exception is if you explicitly want to override the array's elements.

[fleet adder]

Appending doesnt seem to work in a lot of config arrays though 😦

Config wise, while inheriting from something in DLCs that come as data packages (marksman, tanks, apex, etc), what would make the inherited object require DLC / have the DLC popup?

Is it the classname as a whole itself?
Would using components of DLC items, for example, sound, using their path in config still make them require such DLC / have the DLC popup?

[wintry tartan]

P3D itself causes it

[fleet adder]

thank you Polpox

[wintry fox]

It only works where an array is explicitly defined

// addon 1
class A {
    x[] = {0};
};
class B {
    x[] = {0};
};
class C: B {};

// addon 2
class A {
    x[] += {1}; // correctly appends
};

class B;
class C: B {
    x[] += {1}; // C inherits the array, but this redefines it to just be {1}
};

[fleet adder]

is that stated somewhere in the wiki?
If not it should probably be added.

[wintry fox]

It seems like this has been fixed at some point, tested this same setup in a mod.
Though interestingly, the original addon that defines C isn't listed in the addons section

[toxic solar]

yeah thats y I wanted to know how they did that, I am rn just looking at RHS m1 abrams cause well its easier to read 🙂

we love RHS

[mossy scaffold]

Napf...?

[sullen fulcrum]

A map from A2

[shell vessel]

i am trying to change some parameters of a helmet from another mod, with this config i am getting the issue in the picture, what am i doing wrong?

[wheat sluice]

Please post the full config in a pastebin or something. It's kinda hard to help you if you're only posting screenies that show the config out of context.

But from a glance at those screenies, you've already messed up the class inheritance. Rev_One is not inheriting from anything, so you just created a blank class that has a bunch of ACE3 tokens in it and a half-completed ItemInfo property.
You most likely have not set up your CfgPatches properly either.

[shell vessel]

https://pastebin.com/UG2kXWRi

do i need to match inheritance if i am only editing existing classnames?

[wheat sluice]

Yes. It has to be exactly the same as the original config.

Unless you intend on overriding the parent class (e.g. completely changing a tank class into a plane class), inheritance always needs to be same as the original mod's config.

This is how the inheritance should look like in your replacement config:

    class myunitmod_headgear_base;
    class myunitmod_headgear_modvirtushelmet_base: myunitmod_headgear_base
    {
        class ItemInfo;
    };
    class Rev_One: myunitmod_headgear_modvirtushelmet_base
    {
        class ItemInfo: ItemInfo
        {
        };
    };

However, your replacement config for the Rev_One class doesn't seem to have anything different from the original mod's class. The ACE3 tokens are already present in the original config and the protective properties/weight/inventory stats are the same as well.

[shell vessel]

the 'myunitmod_' classnames arent the original classnames, they are new base classnames i wanted to assign to the stuff i was changing before i realized you cant change an existing classnames parent class (take a shot every time i said the c word in this msg)

[wheat sluice]

Well...what's the original mod then? You need to know the exact classnames as the original mod.
I assume it's this?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2909686070

[shell vessel]

yes

this is the original config

[wheat sluice]

Not sure why the original mod has B_Soldier_F and B_Soldier_base_F as global classes...they're CfgVehicles classes.
Oh dear...this doesn't look good already. I'll take a look at the original config.

[wheat sluice]

Ok, the original modmaker must've been completely munted when they were creating the config. Unfortunately, there's only so much that you can fix through a replacement config since the original author is a knobhead, but this should get the Rev_One class working again:

class CfgWeapons
{
    class HeadgearItem;
    class ItemCore;
    class Rev_One: ItemCore
    {
        ace_hearing_protection = 0;
        ace_hearing_lowerVolume = 0;
        ace_hearing_hasEHP = 0;
        picture = "\MOD2_V\Drip_logo.paa";
        class ItemInfo: HeadgearItem
        {
            mass = 30;
            class HitpointsProtectionInfo
            {
                delete HeadgearItem;
                class Head
                {
                    hitpointName = "HitHead";
                    armor = 10;
                    passThrough = 0.6;
                };
            };
        };
    };
};

The delete is used to get rid of the nonsensical class that the author put in there for whatever reason. 🤦‍♂️
As for the other classes, I have no idea about them (the Virtus_ classes) since the original mod doesn't seem to have those classnames anywhere. They seem to be from a different mod altogether?

[shell vessel]

cool, thanks for the help
yes the Virtus_ classes are from another mod

another quick question, does the 'allowedSlots' parameter go into the class itself or under 'ItemInfo'?

[wheat sluice]

Under ItemInfo.

However, you do not need to type out this token again in your config because it automatically inherits it from the HeadgearItem superclass.

As far as I can see, the original modmaker did not override this with different values so your config will automatically inherit it by default.

[indigo sinew]

Hello, I'm trying to make a custom Civilian faction, but the game keeps putting it on Blufor, even though I have side = 3 . Any ideas?

[wheat sluice]

Did you define side = 3; for the vehicle class as well?

[indigo sinew]

I just realised, it say's side = 1 in the vehicle class 😅 . Ty for the heads-up lol

[tacit zealot]

Is there any documentation for how a world subclass class ReplaceObjects works? Can it be used to brute-force remove certain map objects by replacing them with an empty model?

[tacit zealot]

Google shows me nothing except a mention on OFPEC that this technique was indeed used back in the OFP days, and ChatGPT gives me this classname/parameter combo which leaves me asking more questions than I had before...

[wintry fox]

You shouldn't use ChatGPT, period

[tacit zealot]

I'm not using it to write my code, but sometimes it can help point me to the right wiki pages.
The point of including that was that literally no documentation exists online except a "yeah it was used before 👍"

[chilly tulip]

Well, ChatGPT doesn't tell you that. ChatGPT will happily invent SQF commands and config parameters.

[novel lava]

this - ai very rarely says 'i dont know what that is' it just makes it up

to my knowledge the only use of that is for the christmas tree easter egg

[tacit zealot]

Yeah i know that. I don't live under a rock. I am well aware of its limitations. Sometimes it might just happen to use a command I've never heard before which leads to to useful wiki pages.

[chilly tulip]

The CfgWorlds reference doesn't mention it. Which doesn't mean that it doesn't exist, but unless someone used it in a mod somewhere then it's basically lost information.

You could try asking ChatGPT for a mod that uses ReplaceObjects, and then when it tells you something that's provably wrong you can give up :P

[tacit zealot]

Hmm, is this done via an update on Christmas Eve, or is it done via sleeper code that waits until Christmas to add the code. Having to wait till christmas to figure that out would be cruel but hilarious in hindsight

Yeah, I tried asking chatgpt for maps that use it, but it just told me to look at Chernarus/Takistan/blah blah

[novel lava]

its not done via an update its some ancient opf era code iirc

im pretty sure thats what it is though

[chilly tulip]

maybe the parameter only works on Christmas :P

[tacit zealot]

Welp I'm going to be digging through my Enoch PBO for a while...

[novel lava]

#arma3_terrain message

so probably not related to the xmas tree nvm

but is some old crap that may or may not work anymore (if it ever worked)

by the sounds of it, if it does work, it's not gonna work unless you're binarizing your own terrain

[tacit zealot]

I'm trying it in plain old unbinarized config right now, but I'm iffy on if it will work. I've also tried checking the mod "Interiors for CUP" but it seems to do replacements in a heavily scripted way.

For future reference, I can confidently say neither of these attempts at using class ReplaceObjects worked
Did not work even with center = 1 param added alongside replace and with[]

[hard tree]

i can't find wiki info about how to set weapon attachments on units in CfgVehicles

can anyone point me in the right direction

[pallid sierra]

you mean under linkedItems[] = {};?

[chilly tulip]

I think the idea is that you give them a subclass weapon that has attachments defined.

hence CfgVehicles is the wrong place to look.

[wheat sluice]

You don't define attachments like that in CfgVehicles. You need scripting commands like https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/addPrimaryWeaponItem and https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/addSecondaryWeaponItem to do it.

The proper way to go about it is to define the attachments in CfgWeapons:

• You create a custom (and hidden) sub-variant of the weapon that has preset attachments defined. Then you add this to the unit's weapons[] array in CfgVehicles:

    class parentClassForMyCustomWeapon;
    class myCustomWeaponWithPreattachedAccessories: parentClassForMyCustomWeapon
    {
        author = "Sto";
        scope = 1;
        class LinkedItems
        {
            class LinkedItemsOptic
            {
                slot = "CowsSlot";
                item = "myCustomOpticsAttachment";
            };
            class LinkedItemsAcc
            {
                slot = "PointerSlot";
                item = "myCustomLaserPointerAttachment";
            };
        };
    };

• You set LinkedItems directly in the weapon class itself. Some vanilla weapons like the MX SW, Navid, and SPMG are good examples of this as they have always non-integral bipods attached by default. But you can also define this for optics, muzzle, and side slot attachments too:

    class superclassForMyCustomWeapon;
    class parentClassForMyCustomWeapon: superclassForMyCustomWeapon
    {
        baseWeapon = "parentClassForMyCustomWeapon";
        class LinkedItems
        {
            class LinkedItemsUnder
            {
                slot = "UnderBarrelSlot";
                item = "myCustomBipodAttachment";
            };
        };
    };

[toxic solar]

I dont quite understand explosionAngle, if I have explosionAngle=90 what would that mean? oddly enough nothing on wiki page 😦

[novel lava]

it only works with mines but it allows you to change the radius of the explosion

radius.. . angle? i guess, basically change it to be a cone

old extremely scientific testing for the canister shot 37mm in spearhead that uses it

[chilly tulip]

Is the data value there more like 60 or 30? The ambiguity is in whether it's the half-angle or not.

[novel lava]

iirc that's 30

vanilla example is the claymore (or whatever vanilla calls it) but I think its 90 degrees

obviously this doesnt exist in a vacuum tho, you need:

        explosionPos = "explosionPos";
        explosionDir = "explosionDir";

too, probably. see: DirectionalBombBase

[novel lava]

ah sorry claymore is 60, slam mine is 30 too as another example

[toxic solar]

oh so then how did u get it working on that 37mm if its for mines only?

[novel lava]

submunition that deploys a mine and detonates it

[toxic solar]

oh okay ill try that 🙂

[hearty sandal]

Is there some benefits to this and not doing the spread sub munition cone?

I do like the workaround

[novel lava]

well the canister shot is like, 200+ projectiles or something in reality

and I didn't want to annhilate arma by spawning that many, and I feel like reducing it to a more sane number reduces the effectiveness too much

I considered a hybrid approach (low number of actual projectiles, plus low(er) damage explosion aoe)

[hearty sandal]

Makes sense

Area saturation weapons could have their own sim type really.

[novel lava]

yeah I think the main thing missing is like, the audio and particle effect feedback

I tried to get some of it but its hard to beat actual projectiles flying

[hearty sandal]

Yeah

To get nice effects you still need to raycast them

But that is still less straining than purely simming 200 projectiles

[atomic yoke]

I'm trying to change the Ghosthawk to an Independant faction but I'm having a bit of trouble. The retexture is working just fine, it's putting the correct crew on board but it keeps putting it in Blufor no matter what I do. It essentially copies my faction with only the air assets. Anybody got any ideas? I'm guessing it's inheriting it from the base Ghosthawk but I have no idea how to change that.

[toxic solar]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Thermal_Imaging_Maps
for this wiki page it mentions config values, what config values are those? I thought it would be htMin but thats in model cfg so would that effect tanks?

[novel lava]

probably more so now there's the multithreaded lineintersects

[nimble sequoia]

None of the thermal parameters should be in model.cfg. The samples are wrong. Put them in config.cpp. But also, don't bother messing with them, just inherit the default values.

[toxic solar]

damn thats twice in 2 days the samples have lied to me wat is next p3ds are actually not real

[hearty sandal]

They are not always complete

[wicked oar]

Can anyone tell me why I keep giving orders to my AI squad to dismount the vehicle when I am not actually telling them to disembark?

[hearty sandal]

Is this mod config related or just playing the game?

[summer fulcrum]

Ok so I found the root of the problem, aif_NapfObjects.pbo seems to have an error in it but I know nothing about object configs and effects. There was a fix out for it on the download page for the a2map but it seems that link is down so guess I will have to try and fix it again as I am sure the file is almost impossible to find. I will link a pastebin of the file if anyone is able to help much appriciated. http://pastebin.com/viPiw10b

Error displayed when starting the game is "error message:
bin/config.bin/CfgVehicles/Church_Small_F/DestructionEffects/Smoke1Med/: Cannot find base class 'Smoke1Med'" I can't find any other logs pertaining to it. If you need me to do anything to help with the issue getting resolved just ask. The game will not start with this addon loaded, it immediately crashes and doesn't show an rpt log for anything.

[wicked oar]

Sorry I may be in the wrong channel but it happens when I am playing dynamic recon ops mission mod

[hearty sandal]

I suppose its more just about playing the game so #arma3_questions is the place to go. But if you use mods, they can do all kinds of weird things

when you post your question on the other channel do add bit more info like what you play, what mods you got

[wet pike]

I may be blind - is there a wiki entry for how to set up Field Manual entries for assets, i.e. weapons, vehicles, etc?

[wheat sluice]

AFAIK no. Fortunately, CfgHints is pretty easy to understand just by reading through BI's vanilla entries so BIKI isn't needed here (although it'd be nice if someone made an article for it).

[strange locust]

this might help: https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Advanced_Hints_(Field_Manual)

[frozen bluff]

I think this is a config issue, but a player reported for my helicopter that he can't (and I checked too) drag an AI unit into the Co-Pilot seat of it. I did check that the proxy is there, the proxy is correct and eveyrhing but it doesn't allow for a unit to be dragged into the slot for some reason.

[nimble sequoia]

What do you mean by "drag in"? In Zeus? In Eden? As an unconcious unit with ace medical?
Can you get in from outside as a human player?
Was there anyone else in the helicopter when you fail to "drag" in another unit?
For these types of questions, you'll get a quicker and more specific answer if you can give far more details with your question.

[frozen bluff]

Okay place a helicopter that's empty on the ground, then create some units and "drag" them in the Eden Editor, usually it'll load the helicopter based on where you drag, therefore crewing the helicopter (or whatnot).

Yes I can get inside as a human player, it works as intended, but not for AI apparently for that slot

[nimble sequoia]

How many seats does the heli have?

[frozen bluff]

As for other people this is in the Editor, not MP

Four slots

Three can be used that way

[nimble sequoia]

When you drag a group of 4 AI onto it, how many get in?

[frozen bluff]

Three

The config entry matches the others, and it apparently works fine

[nimble sequoia]

Pilot and 2 cargo passengers - are the rear seats cargo or turrets?

[frozen bluff]

No, this is the Co-Pilot seat

[nimble sequoia]

I'm asking what the rear seats are

[frozen bluff]

Gunner slots, M2 and M134

[nimble sequoia]

Is the copilot seat set-up as a turret?>

[frozen bluff]

Yes, it has a FLIR system

[nimble sequoia]

So to summarise, you have a pilot and 3 turrets

[frozen bluff]

Correct

[nimble sequoia]

What do you have for transportSoldier?

[frozen bluff]

Good question, lemme check

0

transportSoldier=0;

Should I just remove that stuff?

[nimble sequoia]

What do you have in each of the 3 turrets for ?
primaryGunner primaryObserver commanding

[nimble sequoia]

No, it's fine

[frozen bluff]

M134 has PrimaryGunner as 1, that may be the issue, as the M2 is 0, the CoPilot is 1

[nimble sequoia]

Yep, you can only have 1 turret with primaryGunner 1

[frozen bluff]

So some sort of glitch then?

[nimble sequoia]

No, just bad config 😉

[frozen bluff]

Haha true, thanks man.

[nimble sequoia]

Try that, see if it helps. I'd guess it's 50/50 chance

Also make sure each turret has it's own memory points for memoryPointsGetInGunner memoryPointsGetInGunnerDir

[frozen bluff]

Yeah it does, that was the issue, thanks

[rugged flame]

Hi, I have a question, I am trying to create a module with a curatorInfoType, but why does it open for all players when I am in multiplayer?

class CfgVehicles {
    class Module_F;
    class CVAR(LaatAirDrop) : Module_F {
        displayName = CSTRING(LaatAirDrop);
        author = AUTHOR;
        scope = 1;
        scopeCurator = 2;
        CATEGORY_MODULES;
        icon = QPATHTOEF(zeus,data\logo_ca.paa);
        function = QSUBFUNC(init);
        curatorInfoType = "RscLaatAirDrop";
        functionPriority = 1;
        isGlobal = 1;
        isTriggerActivated = TRUE;
        isDisposable = TRUE;
        is3DEN = FALSE;
        canSetArea = FALSE;
        canSetAreaShape = FALSE;
        canSetAreaHeight = FALSE;
    };
};

my init fnc :

params [
    ["_logic", objNull, [objNull]],        // Argument 0 is module logic
    ["_units", [], [[]]],                // Argument 1 is a list of affected units (affected by value selected in the 'class Units' argument))
    ["_activated", true, [true]]        // True when the module was activated, false when it is deactivated (i.e., synced triggers are no longer active)
];

TRACE_1("ar_zeus_laatAirDrop_fnc_init",_this);

uiNamespace setVariable [QGVAR(laatAirDropModule), _logic];

private _display = uiNamespace getVariable [QGVAR(RscLaatAirDrop), displayNull];

if (isNull _display) exitWith {
    WARNING("ar_zeus_laatAirDrop_fnc_init: Display not found in uiNamespace");
    createDialog "RscLaatAirDrop";
};

[pallid sierra]

Because you have the isGlobal tag > 0

[wintry fox]

isGlobal = 1 runs the code on all machines

0 = server only, 1 = global, 2 = global w/ JIP

[rugged flame]

ok I thought that the server was like a remoteexec 2

It's not a big deal, I will redo my scripts with remoteexec.

thx u

[wintry fox]

You can just exit if the module isn't local

Because the module will be local to the Zeus who places it

params ["_logic"];

if (!local _logic) exitWith {};

createDialog "...";

[royal minnow]

(I insert myself in the discussion because with both work together on the same mod)

If I remember correctly he did try this already the module didn’t work at all. Nothing was loading.

[rugged flame]

I'll try again, and I'll see. Thx you, for your time.

[toxic solar]

does class UserActions support holding down the action? like the base game healing action where u have to hold space or something for like 5 seconds

[rugged flame]

Nop, you need to use BIS_fnc_holdActionAdd

[toxic solar]

oooooof okay ill try that sounds like a bit of a pain

[finite bronze]

just generally wondering something I can't find online. What in the config determines if a weapon comes out of the turrets memoryPointGun or the turrets gunBeg/gunEng memory points?

I've always just inherited my Coax guns from Vanilla MG so it always just worked but I can't see any memory point signifier in their inheritence.

[hearty sandal]

should be related to ammo simulation

shell and grenade I think come out of gunbeg/end
bullets from memorypointGun

memorypointgun can also be array of points for multiple barrels

gunbeg/end still defines the direction of the barrel I think even for memorypointgun

[finite bronze]

Ahh, so if it has a shell simulation it comes from Gunbeg. but bulletsim, it comes from memorypoint gun. interesting. It has always just worked for me because I always just had cannon come out of cannon and bullet come out of bullet. XD

[hearty sandal]

😄

[hearty sandal]

regarding that alternate barrel animating thing, if you didnt already solve it, one way is to have static and animating barrels ovelapping and then hide/unhide static/animated barrel according to ammo count

for thousands of rounds that would be a bit tedious but it could be MACROed

[finite bronze]

I was just curious how the game magically knew my bullets were to come out the correct place, and now I know.

[finite bronze]

ah, no I figured out a way already but thank you.

[novel lava]

there's also https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/CfgWeapons_Config_Reference#shotFromTurret=false

most of that description is untrue now, its just the memorypoints part

although iirc this only works for shotbullet weapons so you can have two of them in a turret while using different memorypoint sets

[torpid aurora]

Is there a noticable impact on anything when splitting up a mod into say 15 config.cpp files as opposed to 3?
I am editing one specific value across various vehicles, and every so often the modmakers like to spice it up by altering the inheritance. I could just copy the entire tree for each baseclass into its seperate cpp to avoid having to check if it clashes every single time.

[hearty sandal]

no difference

you can however use includes with hpp

if you want to organize config into separate files

[torpid aurora]

True, issue with that is if I have one class that defines NewTurret in LandVehicles and another one that defines it in Land they will end up clashing again

[hearty sandal]

vanilla classes should not be touched like that

[torpid aurora]

Which is exactly why Im a big fan of just copying this for every Vehicle so I can be sure im not defining something somewhere where it ought not to be and the game cries. Thanks for the info :3

[hearty sandal]

those could be vanilla definitions too Id suppose. but dont know for sure

[torpid aurora]

They are. Advanced Developer Tools shows me exactly where it inherits from and lets me copy the entire tree. Works like a charm.

[severe marlin]

Guys
I'm trying to find the vanilla uniform in config but I can't find it

I mean the vanilla suitpack

[wheat sluice]

They're in characters_f.pbo. Just look under the \a3\characters_f\common\suitpacks folder:

suitpack_blufor_diver.p3d
suitpack_blufor_pilot.p3d
suitpack_blufor_soldier.p3d
suitpack_civilian_f.p3d
suitpack_driver_f.p3d
suitpack_original_f.p3d
suitpack_universal_f.p3d

[severe marlin]

I know

But about hiddenselection

I gave one of them a texture but still was invisible in game

[wheat sluice]

Did you enter the filepath correctly? Did you get an error warning about a wrong texture path?

[severe marlin]

No errors

No warns

[wheat sluice]

Show your config.

[severe marlin]

It needs to have hidden selection?

[wheat sluice]

The vanilla suitpacks all use the same selection name (camo).

[wintry tartan]

The point is we don't know what is your need nor your exact issue

[severe marlin]

Ok

It's fine if i use the nato suitpack model for independence uniform?

[wheat sluice]

Yes.

[severe marlin]

Good

[wheat sluice]

It might look slightly off since the UV won't be a 1:1 match with the actual texture used by the uniform. But in the majority of cases you can interchangeably use the suitpacks.

[severe marlin]

I make the whole thing white so it's not so important

[wheat sluice]

IMO you should consider using a procedural texture for the suitpack:
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Procedural_Textures
It's not a huge deal if you don't use it since suitpacks hardly eat up that much memory. But it's a tiny optimisation, and you're using a solid colour anyway, so it's an ideal use case for a procedural texture.

[severe marlin]

What's that?

[wheat sluice]

See the linked article. The engine generates a texture for you; in this case, just a solid colour.

[severe marlin]

I saw that but still idk whats that

[wheat sluice]

You just replace the filepath to your texture with a string to tell the engine to generate the texture instead:

hiddenSelectionsTextures[] = 
{
    "#(argb,8,8,3)color(0.5,0.5,0.5,1.0,CO)"
};

Like I said, no biggie if you don't use it. This just sounds like a good use case for it.

[severe marlin]

Is that for white color?

[wheat sluice]

Yep.

[severe marlin]

Still I need to give it hidden selection?

[wheat sluice]

Yes.

hiddenSelections[] = 
{
    "camo"
};
hiddenSelectionsTextures[] = 
{
    "#(argb,8,8,3)color(0.5,0.5,0.5,1.0,CO)"
};

[severe marlin]

So what's the difference between them?

[wheat sluice]

The engine generates the texture for you instead of pulling a texture from your mod. Saves a little bit of video memory.

[severe marlin]

Hmmm

[wheat sluice]

This is what it looks like in-game (tested on the Assault Pack):
https://i.imgur.com/dWEBezA.png

[severe marlin]

still wont work

its invisible

[wheat sluice]

Your model path is not correct. The full path is:
\a3\characters_f\common\suitpacks\suitpack_blufor_soldier.p3d
...and not:
\a3\characters_f\common\suitpack_blufor_soldier.p3d

You're missing the \suitpacks\ part of the filepath.

[severe marlin]

Ah ok

[wheat sluice]

...are you sure you have errors enabled? The engine should have warned you about a missing model.

[severe marlin]

Is that C0 or CO

?

[severe marlin]

It gave me an error every time about a cup balaclava says no entry but I removed that balaclava from config

[wheat sluice]

Letter O (CO).
If it was a zero it'd be (C0). And it wouldn't work since the CO corresponds to colour (the diffuse map).

[severe marlin]

So it's letter O?

[wheat sluice]

Yes.

[severe marlin]

Big?

[wheat sluice]

Yes.

[severe marlin]

It shows

But with vanilla texture

I gave it my file path but still...

[wheat sluice]

Curious...seems like this is an issue with these three suitpack models:
suitpack_blufor_diver.p3d
suitpack_blufor_pilot.p3d
suitpack_blufor_soldier.p3d
I can only assume that BI didn't assign the camo selection properly to its resolution LODs.

Don't use suitpack_blufor_soldier.p3d. Change the model to suitpack_universal_f.p3d instead and it should work fine.

suitpack_civilian_f.p3d, suitpack_driver_f.p3d, and suitpack_original_f.p3d work fine as well.

[severe marlin]

Universal worked

But thing is it's used my texture

Instead of using the solid white I gave

[wheat sluice]

Make sure you're using the exact same string that I wrote:

"#(argb,8,8,3)color(0.5,0.5,0.5,1.0,CO)"

Remember that it's CO and not C0.

[severe marlin]

No man

This even better

[severe marlin]

Thanks man

It works

I added it for 90 uniforms it works good
I try to add it for more uniforms later or tomorrow

[mortal dove]

The ammo for the wipeout (Gatling_30mm) appears to be the source of the muzzle being shifted (backwards force/sideways force); I've looked into it, but I still don't know what the actual config source is doing it, can anyone point me to it?

I'd like to replicate it the shifting effect for a similar weapon.

[wheat sluice]

muzzleImpulseFactor
See https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/CfgMagazines_Config_Reference#muzzleImpulseFactor[]={1.0,1.0} for how its values work.

It's a CfgMagazines thing by the way, not CfgAmmo.

[mortal dove]

huh.
Was definitely a ammo thing (in my testing) >> tested it several times and replacing the ammo inheritance from the gatling_30mm was the only thing that removed it.

[wheat sluice]

Are you sure you're not confusing it with the various camera effects that the ammo applies? (FX like CamShakePlayerFire and CamShakeFire)

Gatling_30mm_HE_Plane_CAS_01_F just inherits from the BulletBase superclass. There's nothing special in BulletBase that would affect the recoil force of the weapon's muzzle.

[fast sigil]

what config parameter determines mass in inventory?, i may be blind but cant seem to find it

[wintry fox]

If you mean items, mass in ItemInfo
For weapons, mass in WeaponSlotsInfo

[marsh oxide]

Hey, does anyone know how Firewill manages to use such high values for bombs — like hit = 15000, indirectHit = 7000, indirectHitRange = 45 — and still not instantly destroy every tank within range? Instead, it seems to cause gradual or scaled damage based on how close the explosion is.

[wheat sluice]

There's nothing special with it. Tanks and most armoured fighting vehicles have very high resistance to explosive damage (explosionShielding) for their component hitpoints + large global health pools (armor) so they take only 20% damage. Couple this with the armorComponent system and further damage reductions from hitpoint simulation and this gets cut down even more.

But if you land multiple direct hits, the tanks will get blown up by the splash damage since the indirectHit values are so high.
https://i.imgur.com/1ytzK4Z.png
For vehicles outside of the primary (ground zero) and secondary blast zones (<66% AOE), they will still take heavy damage to every other component but the hull hitpoint mostly remains intact.
https://i.imgur.com/BOapDgT.png

TBH why Firewill decided to set damage values like this is plain silly. A HE-Frag rocket ain't going to be scratching a tank lmao, let alone blow it up with a direct hit.

[marsh oxide]

I tried to create a bomb that would deal the same damage as Firewill's KAB-500L, so I copied the exact same values from that bomb. But in my version, it instantly destroys any tank within both close and far range of the explosion, while Firewill's bomb seems to apply damage more gradually depending on how close the target is to the blast.

Firewill uses Bo_GBU12_LGB as the base class, and I did the same.

Even though it has the same values, my bomb ends up being way more overpowered lol

[wheat sluice]

Cannot replicate. I changed the vanilla LOM-250G (Bomb_03_F) to use the same values as Firewill's KAB-500L (FIR_KAB500L).
https://i.imgur.com/TdLgboR.png
Config used:

class CfgAmmo
{    
    class ammo_Bomb_LaserGuidedBase;
    class Bomb_03_F: ammo_Bomb_LaserGuidedBase
    {
        hit = 15000;
        indirectHit = 7500;
        indirectHitRange = 45;
    };
};

Same results as Firewill's bombs. First bomb drop disables the tank and deals heavy damage in the direct blast zone but they do not instantly blow up. Only a second and third bomb drop blows up the tanks and forces all other tanks outside of the primary/secondary blast zones to get critical damage too (you can see the crews ejecting).
https://i.imgur.com/1mgCGvd.jpeg

You have some other damage-related mod in the background perhaps?

[marsh oxide]

I tested with both Vanilla and RHS tanks. Firewill's bomb and my bomb deal progressive damage to Vanilla tanks, but they instantly destroy all RHS tanks. Then I loaded the ACE3 mod — Firewill's bomb deals progressive damage to both Vanilla and RHS tanks, but mine completely destroys all of them. So I think I need to make my bomb compatible with ACE3 (?).

[wheat sluice]

Probably. And it could also be something to do with the hitpoints on RHS tanks. Perhaps their explosionShielding coefficients are a lot higher so they're more vulnerable to explosive damage.

[marsh oxide]

thank u

[mortal pumice]

Probs a question for a dev, but what defines a medkit or toolkit as only being usable by a medic or engineer

I know that type = 401 is FAK's type = 619 is a medkit

And I know that medics have attendant = 1 which allows the unit to use medkits

But I can't find where the link is made, like a function to allow healing or something with an if statement looking for if a unit has attendant = 1 they can use a medkit

[hearty sandal]

its engine feature

[mortal pumice]

Ah I thought that may be the case

Was just going mad looking for the link haha

[hearty sandal]

same with the engineer

[mortal pumice]

Thanks for the Info 🙂

[outer wyvern]

Hi, I created my own faction based on 3CB, RHS and when I load the game and click on a unit for the first time I get this error do you know what to do?

class CfgFactionClasses
{
    class RR_SVG_Faction
    {
        displayName="[44RR] - Separatist Vanguard Group";
        author="Comunista_CZ, Mars_Seth";
        icon="RR_SVG_F\Textures\Icons\RR_SVG_Icon.paa";
        priority=2;
        side=0;
    };
};
class CfgPatches
{
    class RR_SVG_F
    {
        author="Comunista_CZ";
        requiredVersion=1.9;
        requiredAddons[]=
        {
            "A3_Characters_F",
            "A3_Weapons_F",
            "A3_Weapons_F_Mark",
            "A3_Soft_F_Enoch",
            "rhs_c_troops",
            "rhs_c_weapons",
            "Universal_Uniforms",
            "A3_Soft_F_Orange"
        };
        units[]=
        {
            "RR_SVG_FRifleman1",
            "RR_SVG_FMedic",
            "RR_SVG_FRifleman2",
            "RR_SVG_FMG",
            "RR_SVG_FAT",
            "RR_SVG_FMarksman",
            "RR_SVG_FOfficer",
            "RR_SVG_FSL",
            "RR_SVG_FMiguel_SVG",
            "RR_SVG_FJavier_SVG"
        };
        weapons[] = {};
    };
};

I think I got the requiredAddons right. Thanks for any help.

[molten musk]

Just leave weapons empty {}

[outer wyvern]

class CfgPatches
{
    class RR_SVG_F
    {
        author="Comunista_CZ";
        requiredVersion=1.9;
        requiredAddons[]=
        {
            "A3_Characters_F",
            "A3_Weapons_F",
            "A3_Weapons_F_Mark",
            "A3_Soft_F_Enoch",
            "rhs_c_troops",
            "rhs_c_weapons",
            "Universal_Uniforms",
            "A3_Soft_F_Orange"
        };
        units[]=
        {
            "RR_SVG_FRifleman1",
            "RR_SVG_FMedic",
            "RR_SVG_FRifleman2",
            "RR_SVG_FMG",
            "RR_SVG_FAT",
            "RR_SVG_FMarksman",
            "RR_SVG_FOfficer",
            "RR_SVG_FSL",
            "RR_SVG_FMiguel_SVG",
            "RR_SVG_FJavier_SVG"
        };
        weapons[] = {};
    };
};

I left it blank like this and the error still occurs

[hearty sandal]

is this all of the config

[outer wyvern]

Sorry it would be too long and sqfbin doesn't work anymore

[hearty sandal]

you can aslo find easier single "loadorder" requiredaddon from the pins

[outer wyvern]

https://pastebin.com/fxYQ2LJV

Full config

Okay, I already found a bug I left the "", field blank instead of the secondary gun for some units which led to this error.

[hearty sandal]

right makes sense

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/122121444703338496/1098577810962001920/image.png?ex=688cab50&is=688b59d0&hm=92a4dacc8cf57655cad23857959ce65c1e0fb956dad746f4a2f86d5d1c3c44b4&

how you read the errors like this

so it was trying to find "" empty thing in cfgWeapons

[sullen fulcrum]

I have a question. I've set up Quiksilver invade and annex on my dedicated server. Everything works for the most part, however, I'm trying to access the debug console and I've input my steam ID and restarted the server but I'm not seeing the debug console. I apologize if this is the wrong channel for this.

[hearty sandal]

some mod you have might be disabling it

[sullen fulcrum]

I don’t have any mods, it’s the very base mission with no mods

[covert pond]

Anyone a clue why my mod is suddenly coming up with this error in the console? Previous updates didnt have the issue, I didnt even touch the paths or file names.

[severe marlin]

Hey man for unit editorpreview the file must be jpg right?

[hearty sandal]

I dont think Ive ever made one so dont know

[wintry fox]

Yes, and it should be 455x256 in resolution

https://community.bohemia.net/wiki/Eden_Editor:_Configuring_Asset_Previews

[hearty sandal]

oh I totally misread that and thought its for the units webpage 🤣 😵‍💫

[devout venture]

Hey guys, does anyone have any clue about what config error could caue a gun not to consume ammo when firing? Its a bolt action gun which uses CBA for the rechamber animation. I tried removing the cba event but the gun still doesnt consume ammo when firing. What else could it be, some error in the fire mode config?

Update: Config somehow breaks the entire "Single" fire mode, causing every weapon on single to have infinte ammo lmao
Edit: Someone managed to break the entire Mode_SemiAuto firemode but i fixed it hahahahaha

[wintry fox]

What was the issue?

[devout venture]

They overrode the entire Mode_SemiAuto class which every weapon mode inherits from and they also wrongly mentioned it under CfgWeapons instead of the main config

[wintry fox]

Interesting that caused ammo consumption to break

[devout venture]

well it caused the entire semi auto firing mode to not work correctly on every weapon.

[spare vortex]

does anyone have a way to overwrite the holdAction for the CWR3 flags? i want to be able to change the flag from the Ukrainian one to another texture of my choosing?

FYI, when i dug around the config, apparently this is what's in its EventHandler:

init = 
"
    _flagPole = _this select 0;
    _flagPole setFlagTexture '\cwr3\general\cwr3_flags\data\china.paa';
    [_flagPole,'\cwr3\general\cwr3_flags\data\ukraine.paa'] spawn CWR3_fnc_allowChangeFlag;
";

problem is, i cannot seem to access CWR3_fnc_allowChangeFlag from the init field

[vagrant basin]

Ran into this error while attempting to binarize my config file. It's worked perfectly fine in the past, and I can't spot what the problem is with Line 2028 https://pastebin.com/6avEDLV7

[severe marlin]

Mine uses 1600×900 and works fine

[wintry fox]

Wiki says 455x256, so that's what most use

Main reasoning is probably that a lot of previews will be loaded, so lower resolution is better for vram

[severe marlin]

But man

It won't work anyways