arma3_config

[hearty sandal]

from pins we have a guide on how to read it

[copper hazel]

the thing is the config is correct there is no missing thing as such Hitpoints

[hearty sandal]

something in your setup causes it

its not correct if the error pops up

either you create a class without correct parameters

or you break some exisiting inheritance rendering a class broken

[copper hazel]

but i took the config from one of my helicopters that doesnt show this message

[hearty sandal]

some mistake has been made inbetween

all I can say is that the error does not come up without reason

[copper hazel]

could be a required addon thing ?

[hearty sandal]

perhaps

if your config is read in wrong place

[copper hazel]

was looking at the wrong helicopter it was not the one when i placed it

[somber turtle]

I cant seem to get my main menu mission to show.

the mission only has a player down

 class CfgPatches
{
    class PTf_Menu
    {
        units[] = {};
        weapons[] = {};
        requiredVersion = 0.1;
        requiredAddons[] = {"A3_Data_F_Enoch_Loadorder"};
    };
};


class CfgWorlds {
    class CAWorld;    // External class reference
    class Altis : CAWorld {
        cutscenes[] = {"mymainmenu"};
    };
    
    class Stratis : CAWorld {
        cutscenes[] = {"mymainmenu"};
    };

    class Enoch : CAWorld {
        cutscenes[] = {"mymainmenu"};
    };

    class hellanmaa : CAWorld {
        cutscenes[] = {"mymainmenu"};
    };
    
    class hellanmaaw : CAWorld {
        cutscenes[] = {"mymainmenu"};
    };

    class VR : CAWorld {
        cutscenes[] = {"mymainmenu"};
    };

    initWorld = "VR";
    demoWorld = "VR";
};

class CfgMissions
{
    class Cutscenes
    {
        class mymainmenu // Class referenced in 'cutscenes' property in CfgWorlds
        {
            directory = "\PTF_Menu\mainmenu.vr"; // Path to scenario with the scene
        };
    };
};

[hearty sandal]

try newer loadorder maybe

[somber turtle]

what would be the newest one? oldman?

[hearty sandal]

its in one of the pinned messages if I remember right

[somber turtle]

when i run it with "A3_Data_F_Decade_Loadorder"

it still just flashes and gose to a static image

it dose show that its starting in my rpt

17:31:00 Starting mission:
17:31:00  Mission file: mainmenu
17:31:00  Mission world: vr
17:31:00  Mission directory: \PTF_Menu\mainmenu.vr\

[tacit zealot]

How are hidden selections configured on the Mk32 GMG variants? I'm trying to make a retexture but the configs don't have the entry arrays filled out (so they are defined in the model, which I cannot see)

[hearty sandal]

you can test by using the setObjectTextuere for various selection numbers

[tacit zealot]

I tried that but yielded no results, since hiddenSelections[] = {};. Currently testing what happens if I define some of these using some common selection names - maybe they're in the model but unused.
However, I did locate the textures inside \static_f_gamma\data

[hearty sandal]

it is possible it does not have any

camo1 camo2 camo3 seems to be present

[tacit zealot]

Found that out for myself when I discovered that after defining the HS[] but not the HST[] the turret disappeared!
Tex 01 is the colored part of the turret, Tex 02 is the stand + optic(?), Tex 03 is the autonomous addon module

[tacit zealot]

Confirmed that the turrets are retexturable - you just need to manually define hidden selections; sample config and results below, same textures work for raised, low, autonomous variants:

    class B47_WZ_M307X1_Raised_base: B47_WZ_M307X1_Raised_base2{
        author = "brendob47";
        hiddenSelections[] = {"camo1", "camo2", "camo3"};
        hiddenSelectionsTextures[] = {"\a3\static_f_gamma\data\staticturret_01_co.paa", "\a3\static_f_gamma\data\staticturret_02_co.paa", "\a3\static_f_gamma\data\staticturret_03_co.paa"};
        textureList[] = {"B47_WZ_Olive", 1};

        class TextureSources{
            class B47_WZ_Olive{
                author = "brendob47";
                displayName = "Olive";
                textures[] = {"\a3\static_f_gamma\data\staticturret_01_co.paa", "\a3\static_f_gamma\data\staticturret_02_co.paa", "\a3\static_f_gamma\data\staticturret_03_co.paa"};
            };
            class B47_WZ_Black{
                author = "brendob47";
                displayName = "Black";
                textures[] = {"\b47_Wz_factions\data\tex\statics\b47_m307_01_dark.paa", "\a3\static_f_gamma\data\staticturret_02_co.paa", "\b47_Wz_factions\data\tex\statics\b47_m307_03_dark.paa"};
            };
        };
    };```

[dry kelp]

Can any one tell me what i do wrong The first uniform is glitch but the seccond one work just fine

[balmy atlas]

class HitPoints {
  class HitFuel {
    name="myHPname"; //you are missing this parameter
  };
};

[deft frigate]

So I tried to increase radar range on a vehicle through class AirTarget and while on the panels it shows the range is increased it doesn't really detect anything over like 21-22 KM is it like a engine limitation or am I just doing something wrong (I have both objectDistanceLimitCoef and view DistanceLimitCoef set to -1 btw)

[hearty sandal]

could very well be engine limit

[copper hazel]

I did not idk what was wrong but it works now.

[lean bloom]

I have been looking at this for a while, trying to figure out if this is the same issue I am having. When I press RBM to go into the optics, the camera seems to be looking "straight ahead", but the default direction of my barrel is offset some 12 degrees, and I would need to create this same offset for the optics.

My assumption was memorypointCamera controls the initial camera position, and cameraDir controls the direction the camera is looking, but I reckon this is not true, since it does not work for me.

            class MainTurret : MainTurret {
                gunnerAction = "Mortar_Gunner";
                gunnergetInAction = "GetInLow";
                gunnergetOutAction = "GetOutLow";
                weapons[] = {QUOTE(TBD_2B9_WEAPON)};
                elevationMode = 1;
                initCamElev = 20;
                minCamElev = -35;
                maxCamElev = 35;
                initElev = 0;
                minTurn = -30;
                maxTurn = 30;
                initTurn = 0;
                cameraDir = "look";
                discreteDistance[] = {};
                discreteDistanceCameraPoint[] = {"gunnerview"};
                gunnerForceOptics = 0;
                maxVerticalRotSpeed = 0.05;
                maxHorizontalRotSpeed = 0.1;
                memoryPointCamera = "gunnerview";
                memoryPointGunnerOptics = "gunnerview";
                gunnerOpticsModel = QPATHTOF(TBD_2B9_VASILEK\scope.p3d);
                gunnerUsesPilotView = 1;
                disableSoundAttenuation = 1;
                class ViewOptics : ViewOptics {
                    initAngleX = 0;
                    minAngleX = -30;
                    maxAngleX = 30;
                    initAngleY = 20;
                    minAngleY = -100;
                    maxAngleY = 100;
                    initFov = 0.174;
                    minFov = 0.0077778;
                    maxFov = 0.14;
                    visionMode[] = {"Normal"};
                };
                minelev = -12;
                maxelev = 68;
                gunBeg = "usti_hlavne";
                gunEnd = "konec_hlavne";
                ejectDeadGunner = 1;
                usepip = 2;
                discreteDistanceInitIndex = 0;
                primaryGunner = 1;
                memoryPointsGetInGunner = "pos_gunner";
                memoryPointsGetInGunnerDir = "pos_gunner_dir";
                proxyType = "CPGunner";
            };
        };```

[calm pilot]

Hey peeps, i got a problem with my turrets: in this tracked apc with no commander seat, an unknown and unnamed turret keeps popping up in the available slots. There should be just cargo seats, which work fine, but this undefined turret is somehow there. This is the bit of code related to turrets in the config:

[balmy atlas]

you are supposed to define memory points in ViewOptics

class DaysightWFOV: ViewOptics
{
    camPos = "m151_dk_pos";
    camDir = "m151_dk_dir";
    opticsDisplayName = "DK";
    gunnerOpticsModel = "\rhsusf\addons\rhsusf_optics\data\rhsusf_CROWS_monitor";
    initFov = 0.7;
    minFov = 0.0233333;
    maxFov = 0.7;
    visionMode[] = {"Normal", "TI"};
    thermalMode[] = {0,1};
    hitpoint = "Hit_Optic_CROWS_Day";
};

[nimble sequoia]

So you have 7 cargo seats and their CARGO proxies are 1 to 7?
cargoProxyIndexes[]={1,2,3,4,5,6,7};
transportSoldier = 7;
You have 1 driver and 1 GUNNER proxy?

[calm pilot]

Correct yep

[tacit zealot]

Can an item be configured such that it ocupies the Radio slot but the radio protocol remains unavailable?

[hearty sandal]

likely not

the item slots are meant for the specific items

not for anything else

generic or other purpose items are usually set up as magazines etc that can be just in the inventory

[tacit zealot]

Ugh I wanted to make a Radio (Defunct) that would be inventory-swapped in my EMP script. Thanks anyway.

[hearty sandal]

look into contact stuff if there was any solution for that

deactivated NVGs were added there

dont remember about radio

[tacit zealot]

Oh I have NVG (Defunct) covered alright! Even made a static-ed/grayed-out NVG modeloptics from the Arma 2 samples. Much easier to understand than Contact's black screen if you didn't realize you got EMP'd and tried to turn on your NVG.

Maybe I'll mess with enableRadio in the script itself.

[hearty sandal]

id wager that may be the right approach

[tacit zealot]

Ehh but I have permanent variations of the module, and I have no way to account for players picking up a new (functional) radio from a supply crate. They'd still be left radio-less according to the script.
Oh well, it's already more detailed than I had initially hoped.

[hearty sandal]

problaby you could remove the working radio and add a broken/disabled radio item to the inventory

the broken one dont need to be in the radio slot

[tacit zealot]

Ooh, good idea! Now I actually have to think about TFAR compatibility now. Maybe a generic broken radio and an isKindOf check should work.

[hearty sandal]

well if you dont have compatible radio on you you dont have radio

if you remove radio then you dont have radio

and the broken radio would be generic item type

or magazine

that wont trigger TFAR

[tacit zealot]

Oh true. Still need consideration for TFAR LR backpacks and vehicle radios then. Given how interesting one of my campaign missions was when a player who was RP'in a little hard faked a radio blackout, an actual LR blackout with TFAR would be very nice.

[hard chasm]

Mikero's tools release 9.46
Improved syntax listing for dos exes . Plus,
-# will show the arg,u,ments. good for tracing what went bang.
This 'improvement' only happens when the exe itself needs fixing/improved.
new improved dos dertm(again)
dos rapify now uses a -dayz option. (Added to the ofp,arma,xbox and vbslite stable)
The output for dayz is currently identical to arma. Until it isn't.
But (some) different warning messages are issued.

Under the covers the dll has been tweaked in several areas. Like all installer.exes,
the list of them is in depbofixes.txt

Enjoy

[shell fractal]

How do I fix the suspension to where my vehicle doesn't bounce while standing still.
I've done the math for the suspension configurations to a T according to the formulas, but it still bounces side to side as soon as I start it up, then bounces front to rear when I start moving

[drifting skiff]

i'm trying to make my weapon to have RHS grips, but they are all invisible, ie no model is showing, even though the grips are available in the menu?

basic bipods etc are showing, and i really dont know where to start or what to do to fix

EDIT: NVM i fixed it by creating a custom gripslot

[drifting skiff]

next question, where was the weapon impact stat defined?

[nimble sequoia]

Need to see

1. memory points for wheels (centre, bounds, damper axis)
2. Geometry LOD total mass and centre of gravity
3. Geo Phys LOD
4. model.cfg (bones and anims) pertaining to wheels and dampers
5. config.cpp class Wheels {}
   Also check in Buldozer that your wheels move up/down correctly with the damper source (ie direction)

[granite dock]

looking to animate the raising of an ATGM launcher, ideally when the weapon is selected. but also fine with manual raising via scroll menu.
been looking around model.cfgs/animationSources & userActions but can't quite figure out what I'm missing from the model.cfg to the config.cpp to get this to animate.
Vertex groups are assigned & axis are present. any points of interest would be helpful here, cheers

[calm pilot]

There was something wrong in this? 👀👉🏻👈🏻

[nimble sequoia]

What's actually the problem?

[nimble sequoia]

It doesn't match with your picture which shows 1 driver, 2 turrets and 3 cargo.

[calm pilot]

3 cargo because i just slapped in there a 4 man squad; the additional unnamed turret is the problem yep

[calm pilot]

Just to show the unnamed turret

[granite dock]

I've now managed to get it to animate however its instant.
vehicle player animateSource ["spike_rail", 1, false]; works but the animation is instant, no interpolation between 0 & 1. have adjusted animPeriod but no luck

[nimble sequoia]

Have you put the animPeriod in class AnimationSources?

[nimble sequoia]

Use Leopards Advanced Developer Tools to get a better config viewer.
Go in game, open the config viewer and look at the turret structure, see what it shows and where it is inheriting from?
Screenshot it here if you need help with understanding it.

[hearty sandal]

I believe you can make it pop up with isSelected source(animationSource needs defined with the weapon) or with maxHoldsterValue source (holdster value needs to be defined in the weapon class)

[nimble sequoia]

That works on vehicles?

[granite dock]

yeah its in the animSources & the model CFG

[hearty sandal]

holdster value for sure. the isSelected ,maybe

[granite dock]

awesome, any basegame vehicles that do this I could maybe look through for reference?

[hearty sandal]

planes with weapon bays

[granite dock]

all I can think of is the comanche but looking at that I couldn't see much

[hearty sandal]

that too

dont think any land vehicles use it

[nimble sequoia]

I'm dubious that isSelected works

[nimble sequoia]

Is it a "user" type animation source?

Have you also put it in the virtual garage?

[granite dock]

AnimationSources :
if this is what you mean, then no 🙂

[nimble sequoia]

ah

source = "user";

[granite dock]

I figured source pointed to the model CFG

ah so the class "name" {
is what actually points to the right selection?

[nimble sequoia]

no, the source in model.cfg is the class name from animationSources

[granite dock]

copy, that explains why it was somewhat working lol

testing now

awesome, animating now cheers.

looking around for pylonbay stuff atm, not much joy yet. will keep searching

[hearty sandal]

weapon would have this

and this would then correspond to at what value the model.cfg animation happens

the value can be anything to allow multiple different weapons use it in same vehicle

when a vehicle has this weapon selected the maxholdster value is 1

another example with different value

[granite dock]

ahh, I was searching for "holster"

[hearty sandal]

this holdster value would open up different bay

[granite dock]

I see. then I'd need to work something out with the model cfg

[hearty sandal]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Model_Config#Animation_sources

this is good bookmark

[granite dock]

I see the "isSelected" & "maxHoldsterValue" in there, how would I go about having the launcher react to that value change

[granite dock]

ahh right, right

[calm pilot]

Mmm could this be the problem? The fact that this viewpilot shows up in turrets?

[granite dock]

all setup now, working exactly as described. cheers

[calm pilot]

I also checked the rpt file, and there are error messages about viewpilot

[nimble sequoia]

Yep, click on ViewPilot to see where it comes from

[calm pilot]

Ok

Looks like it comes from viewpilot itself? My brain is confused

[nimble sequoia]

Remove that

[calm pilot]

Oh God, always these stupid errors. Thanks Apollo

[nimble sequoia]

Most of us make the same errors, but after a while you get to know how to find them yourself.

[hearty sandal]

while = few years 😅

[royal shoal]

I need some help with making a config for head/face. i am super duper lost

never done it before and would love some help

[nimble sequoia]

Start off by downloading the Arma 3 Samples from Steam and look through the Test_Character_01 files.

[royal shoal]

alright, ill take a look . right now i had made a custom face (on photoshop) and found an arm then put tats on that (on ps) now im trying to link them together and get into game with it

this stuff really hurts my brain 😂 LOL

[granite dock]

sorry I don't mean to spam questions in here(more so, don't want to look like I'm not trying to figure things out myself first), buuut. I can't figure out how I'd go about changing the muzzle firing position of a second weapon in the gunner seat.
eg, my ATGM is firing from the cannon barrel instead of the launcher, I've read over the gorgon config(which does this correctly) for over an hour now but can't find what I'm missing

[nimble sequoia]

Try something like this:

gunBeg = "usti hlavne";        // ATGM
gunEnd = "konec hlavne";       // ATGM
selectionFireAnim = "";```

[granite dock]

testing now, cheers

well no joy, both weapons firing from the same pos still. do now have this constant muzzle flash going on though lol

[nimble sequoia]

Because you have two weapons you'll have to do a manual muzzle flash animation using model.cfg

Obviously the memory point names need to match those in the weapon config

Having a cannon AND an ATGM on the same turret is not trivial

[undone patio]

What determines if you can access a vic's inventory from outside of it?

[granite dock]

I believe its this memory point but I could be very wrong. "doplnovani" though subject to change via config I imagine
its the center of the access area, so in my case the rear would be the side you can rearm from

[hearty sandal]

there is a value for how long radius it can be accessed from

and the name of the point can also be defined in config

[shell fractal]

I got rid of my bouncing in place issue by using the sample car weight for my geo lod and used its physx, model, and config.
Now my vehicle Flys away if I don't spawn it slightly above ground, and when it touches the ground; only two wheels make contact with the ground.

And I mean when two wheels only make contact; the other two are like a players height in the air

[hearty sandal]

most likely your wheel diameter points still have some sort of issue that the physX wheels become too big

[granite dock]

is there a way to assign weight to verts in blender? I've seen the object properties for it but never a way to edit them

[hearty sandal]

what weights?

[granite dock]

these, Geo LOD

[hearty sandal]

object needs to be geometry lod and in edit mode you can find this dialog open

[granite dock]

ahh damn, spent ages searching. doesn't show up outside of edit mode

[rapid crystal]

Trying to make a turret right now, but I am having an issue. I want this turret to not have a camera that you right click into. How can I disable this camera to make it similar to a vanilla hmg?

[hearty sandal]

simplest way is to inherit vanilla HMG config to get its view setup

mimick what it has

[rapid crystal]

So instead of inheriting 'MainTurret', just do vanilla hmg instead?

[hearty sandal]

yes you can inherit the turret config directly from the existing vehicle

though it too might have its onw MainTurret

[novel lava]

Im pretty sure it just an empty gunnerOpticsModel that does it for vehicles

empty as in, an empty string, not an empty p3d

empty p3d is for when you want to do ironsights

[rapid crystal]

Yeah, I wanna have the turret use Iron sights. So is that a config or p3d thing?

[novel lava]

both you can just set
gunnerOpticsModel = "\A3\weapons_f\reticle\optics_empty";
in the turret config tho

[rapid crystal]

Damn, I already have that and it still has the camera screen thing

[novel lava]

you might have some opticsIn definition then or similar which overrides it

[warped perch]

How do you have components in edit appearance in the garage be set default enabled?

[warped perch]

From checking my aio config, I am guessing it is animationList. Additionally, can set forceAnimate for better configurations

[warped perch]

Having some trouble with implementing the component animation source customization. Options are not selected on init in component list in garage and do not hold when clicked and applied.

[warped perch]

https://pastebin.com/Pr0Jci6z

[smoky python]

Is anyone aware if it's possible to have a grenade explode on impact with a soldier?
I've been trying to set up a config for a impact grenade which will explode immediately when it hits someone.
This is where I'm at right now.

class GrenadeHand_Impact: GrenadeHand
{
    hit = 1;
    indirectHit = 30;
    indirectHitRange = 1;
    dangerRadiusHit = 1;
    suppressionRadiusHit = 10;
    typicalspeed = 200;
    model = "\tc\impact\impact.p3d";
    CraterEffects = "NoCrater";
    explosionEffects = "NoExplosion";
    soundHit[] = {"",1,1};
    explosive = 0;
    deflecting = 7;
    fuseDistance = 0;
    explosionTime = -1;
    cost = 1;
    whistleDist = 0;
    timeToLive = 18;
    class EventHandlers
    {
        hit = "systemChat format ['hit EH output: %1 [time: %2]', _this, time]";
        ammoHit = "systemChat format ['ammoHit EH output: %1 [time: %2]', _this, time]";
    };
};

The grenade goes through soldiers and explodes behind them.
The ammoHit event does fire, but only once it has exploded.

[dusk jungle]

Does Hit fire?

[smoky python]

It doesn't appear to.

[dusk jungle]

Oh it should be HitPart btw

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Event_Handlers#HitPart_2

[smoky python]

Ohh. Thank you

[dusk jungle]

Oh wait these EHs are something different

Ammo Config Events

There are three event handlers that can be set on ammo in config: 

I guess you need to add Fired event handler which then adds HitPart to the projectile (_this select 6)

Then you check if HitPart hit a unit (_this select 1 isKindOf "Man"?), then you force trigger it with triggerAmmo

But all this will work ONLY if grenades fire HitPart when they hit something

shotShell certainly do, but grenades are something else

shotGrenade?

[smoky python]

Are you saying that HitPart is dependent on Fired being bound? I'm not quite sure what you mean here

[dusk jungle]

There is no way to add HitPart from config it seems

You'll have to do it through fired which is add-able in config

[smoky python]

Ah I see

[dusk jungle]

fired = "_this select 6 addEventHandler ['HitPart', {systemChat format ['I just hit %1', _this select 1]; if(_this select 1 isKindOf 'Man') then {systemChat 'Boom?'; triggerAmmo (_this select 0);}}]";

haven't tested

Oh there is also init

init = "_this addEventHandler ['HitPart', {systemChat format ['I just hit %1', _this select 1]; if(_this select 1 isKindOf 'Man') then {systemChat 'Boom?'; triggerAmmo (_this select 0);}}]";

I think _this is not an array but the entity itself?

[wintry tartan]

Don't know which _this but init has [entity] too

[dusk jungle]

Guess we can only figure out through test

Some EHs provide the entity and not an array with entity, thought maybe its the case here

[smoky python]

I'll be trying out these options tomorrow. Thank you for the pointers

[warped perch]

Applies when loaded in mission but box doesn’t stay checked. Good enough

[nimble sequoia]

AnimationSource class name in config.cpp and animation class name in model.cfg have to be identical for the VG iirc.

[hollow moon]

Quick question, can I use spaces between words for class names?

Like "class desert bdu"

Or does it have to be "class desert_bdu"

[warped perch]

no spaces

[warped perch]

Thanks. Seems the selection/bone name needs to be the same as well.

[hard chasm]

that's because the classname is triggered by the bone

[shy knot]

Set its view optics to 0

[wintry fox]

If adding OpticsModes to a weapon from scratch, do you need to define anything other than the OpticsModes class itself?
Running into an issue where I can't seem to use an optic even though it's defined.

class BNA_KC_arifle_base;
class BNA_KC_arifle: BNA_KC_arifle_base {
    class OpticsModes {
        class Zoom {
            cameraDir = "";
            distanceZoomMax = 200;
            distanceZoomMin = 200;
            memoryPointCamera = "Optics1";
            opticsDisablePeripherialVision = 0;
            opticsFlare = 0;
            opticsID = 1;
            opticsPPEffects[] = {"Default"};
            opticsZoomInit = 0.75;
            opticsZoomMax = 1.25;
            opticsZoomMin = 0.25;
            useModelOptics = 0;
            visionMode[] = {};
        };
    };
};

[shy knot]

Is the optic built in? Or separate

[wintry fox]

Built in is my intention

Which is why I'm using optics modes, not defining an optic

[shy knot]

//Optics and zeroing
        modelOptics = "\OPTRE_Weapons\Sniper\Sniper_Oracle10_Optic"; //TODO?
        opticType = 1;
        optics = 1;
        opticsID = 1;
        useModelOptics = 1;
        opticsZoomMin = 0.01;
        opticsZoomMax = 0.25;
        opticsZoomInit = 0.25;
        opticsFlare = 1;
        opticsDisablePeripherialVision = 1;
        reloadAction = "WBK_M99_Reload";
        reloadMagazineSound[] = {"\OPTRE_Wbk_WeaponImprovements\reload\srs99_reload.ogg",2,1,25};
        opticsPPEffects[] = {"OpticsCHAbera1","OpticsBlur1"};
        visionMode[] = {"Normal","NVG","TI"};
        thermalMode[] = {0,1,5,6,7};
        discretefov[] = {0.25,0.05,0.025,0.01};
        discreteinitIndex = 0;
        discreteDistance[] = {
            50,
            100, 150,
            200, 250,
            300, 350,
            400, 450,
            500, 550,
            600, 650,
            700, 750,
            800, 850,
            900, 950,
            1000, 1050,
            1100, 1150,
            1200, 1250,
            1300, 1350,
            1400, 1450,
            1500, 1550,
            1600, 1650,
            1700, 1750,
            1800, 1850,
            1900, 1950,
            2000
        };
        discreteDistanceInitIndex = 1;
        distanceZoomMin = 100;
        distanceZoomMax = 2000;```

Make modelOptics an array if you have more than one zoom level scope UI

[coral knoll]

What determines the muzzle flash of a gun?

[wintry tartan]

It is zasleh selection by default

[coral knoll]

the flash is zasleh?

[wintry tartan]

Yes

[coral knoll]

Interesting

Thanks

[wintry tartan]

And it does mean it is a part of model

[coral knoll]

Ohhh... So changing a gun's muzzleflash without having access to the model isnt possible?

[wintry tartan]

Correct

[coral knoll]

[novel lava]

theres some hacky ways to do it with a dummy muzzle attachment

but that's kinda Crap

[smoky python]

Is it possible to edit weapon config settings while the game is running? I want to tweak sqf scripts and reload them live.

[wintry tartan]

Check pinned

[smoky python]

Awesome 🙂

That works great. Cheers!

[smoky python]

I'm not having much luck with this.
When the grenade is thrown the 'HitPart' message is printed. But it trigger againt when the grenade hits someone.

class EventHandlers
{
    init = "_entity addEventHandler ['HitPart', systemChat 'HitPart']";
};

[wintry tartan]

_entity is not defined there

[smoky python]

I was trying to follow the documentation for the init here - https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Event_Handlers#Init

This is my first time doing this so I'm not quite sure how the syntax is meant to be written

[wintry tartan]

params ['_entity'];```This is how `_entity` is defined

[smoky python]

So I'm guessing that the event handler init should be written like this
init = "this addEventHandler ['HitPart', {systemChat format ['HitPart at %1', time]}];";

Since it's being called on the object itself

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Event_Handlers#Ammo_Config_Events

[wintry tartan]

init = "(_this#0) addEventHandler ['HitPart', {systemChat format ['HitPart at %1', time]}];";```or
```cpp
init = "params ['_entity']; _entity addEventHandler ['HitPart', {systemChat format ['HitPart at %1', time]}];";```

[smoky python]

Thanks, that's taken me a step further.
I'm able to run the following

class EventHandlers
{
    init = "params ['_entity']; systemChat 'Added Event'; _entity addEventHandler ['HitPart', {systemChat format ['HitPart at %1', time]}];";
};

This doesn't trigger the HitPart message when the grenade goes through a soldier

I know this is functionally adding a event handler as I can change the Event to 'Explode' and it will fire.

[drifting skiff]

need some help with inheriting RHS blackhawk and changing gunners, current code is this but i breaks the rightdoorgun;

    class RHS_UH60M_d;
    class PB_AUS_UH60M_A: RHS_UH60M_d
    {
        class Turrets;
    };
    class PB_AUS_UH60M_B: PB_AUS_UH60M_A
    {
        class Turrets: Turrets
        {
            class CopilotTurret;
            class MainTurret;
            class RightDoorGun;
            class CargoTurret;
            class CargoTurret_01;
            class CargoTurret_03;
        };
    };
    class PB_AUS_UH60M: PB_AUS_UH60M_B
    {
        class Turrets: Turrets
        {
            class CopilotTurret: CopilotTurret
            {
            };
            class MainTurret: MainTurret
            {
                gunnerType = "PB_AUS_SOL_HP";
            };
            class RightDoorGun: MainTurret
            {
                gunnerType = "PB_AUS_SOL_HP";
            };
            class CargoTurret_01: CargoTurret
            {
            };
            class CargoTurret_02: CargoTurret_01
            {
            };
            class CargoTurret_03: CargoTurret_01
            {
            };
            class CargoTurret_04: CargoTurret_03
            {
            };
        };
    };```

[wintry tartan]

class RightDoorGun: MainTurret?

[drifting skiff]

thats how it is in the RHS config atleast

[wintry tartan]

But it is your UH60 config no?

[drifting skiff]

yeah, but im inheriting it from the rhs one, so i should have roughly same class names at is has, no?

[wintry tartan]

But your config is inheriting PB_AUS_UH60M_B's MainTurret

Don't you have to inherit from RightDoorGun?

[drifting skiff]

ah, i see

[smoky python]

If a bullet class was to add an event for Penetrated (https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Event_Handlers#Penetrated)
Would it fire if the bullet travelled through a soldier?

[hard chasm]

            {
            };```
any 'empty' statements like this are effectively a nop. (not to be confused with
class elephants{};  // empties the entire contents

[wintry tartan]

Even though the inheritance there looks wrong, turrets need to be declared like that to make it work, AFAIK

[hard chasm]

also RHS should know better than to fully uppercase their classnames. They scream #defines, you should not mimic a very., very, bad practice.

[wintry tartan]

Just inherit doesn't work on turrets

[drifting skiff]

yeah they need to be done like that, otherwise things will not work

[dusk jungle]

Try it

[slim halo]

class elephants{}; // empties the entire contents
it doesn't

[hard chasm]

you might be confusing it with
class elephants;

[slim halo]

Nope. I'm not. {} doesn't make it empty

[hard chasm]

that's how turrets{} are removed from 'vehicles' that don't need them.

[opal crater]

yes, that's by definining an empty class instead of inheriting a one from the parent.

But it's not "emptying the entire contents"

that is simply misleading.

also
class elephants;
and
class elephants {};
do exactly the same if there's no class to import.

[hard chasm]

Ok! Have to agree here that I'm wrong and misleading.

[slim halo]

yeah as veteran said you need to inherit turret from its parent:

class CfgVehicles {
    class All {};
    class AllVehicles: All {};
    class Land: AllVehicles {};
    class LandVehicle: Land {};
    class Tank: LandVehicle {};
    class Tank_F: Tank {
        class Turrets {};
    };
    class MBT_01_base_F: Tank_F {
        class Turrets: Turrets {};
    };
};

if you try this nothing will become empty even tho you have {}s all over the place (but you need the correct mod dependency ofc)

[tidal knot]

Having problem with preprocessor commands by using pboProject

\\ shotTimer.hpp
#define SHOTTIMERITEM(CN,DN,DS,AUTHOR,WEIGHT) \
    class ##CN##: ItemCore \
    { \
        displayName = ##DN##; \
        descriptionShort = ##DS##; \
        author = ##AUTHOR##; \
        scope = 2; \
        type = 131072; \
        class ItemInfo : InventoryItem_Base_F \
        { \
            allowedslots[] = {701, 801, 901}; \
            type = 620; \
            mass = ##WEIGHT##; \
        }; \
    };

\\config.cpp
#include "\leon\shot_timer\commons\shotTimer.hpp"

class CfgWeapons
{
    class ItemCore;
    class InventoryItem_Base_F;
    SHOTTIMERITEM("LEON_ST_ClubTimer2","Club Timer 2","Shot Timer by PACT","Leon",2);
};

pboProject error about this

\leon\shot_timer\club_timer_2\config.cpp Rapify:Rap: In File \leon\shot_timer\club_timer_2\config.cpp: circa Line 7 label is not alphanumeric
.preprocessing files produced an error

Problem solved, the replacement should be what it excatly

// from SHOTTIMERITEM("LEON_ST_ClubTimer2") to SHOTTIMERITEM(LEON_ST_ClubTimer2)
-"LEON_ST_ClubTimer2"
+LEON_ST_ClubTimer2

[grand zinc]

##CN##
Thats nonsense. ## is used as a separator between non-whitespace characters.
But you have whitespace there, you don't need any separator. It should be just CN
Same for all your others that are like that

[dusk wolf]

It was like that here:
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Characters_And_Gear_Encoding_Guide#Using_Macros
So i am guessing he was following the example.

[hard chasm]

yes. had to absorb all the above. the rapify module of the dll is parsing that macro quite happily. It is also coping with the ## word delimeters. It would have warned you that neither of them were necessary.

"label is not alphanumeric"
because it had " characters

'label' isn't really sufficient, it should say 'class label'. will fix on next release.

[grave steppe]

Anyone else having issues making variable zoom optic using CBA Accessory Functions?
I am having some of my optics just disappearing rather than switching

class NAVSPECWARGRU2_NF_ATACR18_x1: ItemCore
    {
        weaponInfoType = "scope_1x_pip_handler";
        author = "Natan Brody";
        scope = 2;
        displayName = "[NSW] Nightforce ATACR 1-8x24mm";
        picture = "\NAVSPECWARGRU2\NAVSPECWARGRU2_TACDEV_Equipment_Uniform_Base\UI\NAVSPECWARGRU2_ca.paa";
        model = "\NAVSPECWARGRU2\NAVSPECWARGRU2_TACDEV_Armory_Weapons_Optics\Optics\ATACR\18\ATACR18_1x.p3d";
        ace_scopeZeroRange = 100; // Overwrites the ace_setting default zero range
        ace_scopeHeightAboveRail = 3.9625;  // Distance between center of scope and rail in centimeters
        ace_scopeAdjust_vertical[] = {-15, 15};  // Maxmimum vertical adjustment limits
        ace_scopeAdjust_horizontal[] = {-15, 15};  // Maximum horizontal adjustment limits
        ace_scopeAdjust_verticalIncrement = 0.1;  // Vertical increment
        ace_scopeAdjust_horizontalIncrement = 0.1;  // Horizontal increment
        MRT_SwitchItemNextClass = "NAVSPECWARGRU2_NF_ATACR18_x2";
        MRT_SwitchItemPrevClass = "NAVSPECWARGRU2_NF_ATACR18_x1";
        MRT_switchItemHintText = "Magnification 1x";
        class ItemInfo: InventoryOpticsItem_Base_F
        {
            mass = 6;
            RMBhint = "Adjustable Range Optics";
            opticType = 1;
            optics = 1;
            modelOptics = "\A3\Weapons_f_beta\acc\reticle_MRCO_F";
            memoryPointCamera = "eye";
            class OpticsModes
            {
                class IronSight
                {
                    opticsID = 1;
                    useModelOptics = 0;
                    opticsPPEffects[] = {};
                    opticsFlare = 0;
                    opticsDisablePeripherialVision = 0;
                    opticsZoomMin = 0.75;
                    opticsZoomMax = 0.75;
                    opticsZoomInit = 0.75;
                    memoryPointCamera = "eye";
                    visionMode[] = {};
                    discreteDistance[] = {100};
                    discreteDistanceInitIndex = 0;
                    distanceZoomMin = 100;
                    distanceZoomMax = 100;
                };
            };
        };
        inertia = 0.6;
    };
class NAVSPECWARGRU2_NF_ATACR18_x2: NAVSPECWARGRU2_NF_ATACR18_x1
    {
        weaponInfoType = "scope_2x_pip_handler";
        author = "Natan Brody";
        scope = 1;
        model = "\NAVSPECWARGRU2\NAVSPECWARGRU2_TACDEV_Armory_Weapons_Optics\Optics\ATACR\18\ATACR18_2x.p3d";
        MRT_SwitchItemNextClass = "NAVSPECWARGRU2_NF_ATACR18_x3";
        MRT_SwitchItemPrevClass = "NAVSPECWARGRU2_NF_ATACR18_x1";
        MRT_switchItemHintText = "Magnification 2x";
        class ItemInfo: InventoryOpticsItem_Base_F
        {
            mass = 6;
            RMBhint = "Adjustable Range Optics";
            opticType = 1;
            optics = 1;
            modelOptics = "\A3\Weapons_f_beta\acc\reticle_MRCO_F";
            memoryPointCamera = "eye";
            class OpticsModes
            {
                class IronSight
                {
                    opticsID = 1;
                    useModelOptics = 0;
                    opticsPPEffects[] = {};
                    opticsFlare = 0;
                    opticsDisablePeripherialVision = 0;
                    opticsZoomMin = 0.75;
                    opticsZoomMax = 0.75;
                    opticsZoomInit = 0.75;
                    memoryPointCamera = "eye";
                    visionMode[] = {};
                    discreteDistance[] = {100};
                    discreteDistanceInitIndex = 0;
                    distanceZoomMin = 100;
                    distanceZoomMax = 100;
                };
            };
        };
        inertia = 0.6;
    };

Theoretically based upon their wiki it should all work

[limber cape]

Would anyone here have any idea how to go about making a config to make an unarmed player have the same movement options and move at the same speed as someone armed with a rifle?

I'm in a WWII unit and am trying to make this for our unarmed medics so they can stay at the same pace with the infantry during formations.

[chilly tulip]

I'm not even sure if it's intentional that the movement speeds vary :P

As far as I know it's based on animations, so I suspect it won't be easy to equalize.

[limber cape]

I've tried changing the speed of the unarmed running animation to match that of the rifle animation and it doesnt seem that the "speed = " modifier is actually what controls how far a person moves in the world.

One attempt had me changing the walking animation of the unarmed to the running animation of the unarmed and then tweaking both the walking and running speed classes' speed to be the same as the rifle tac movement animation and running animation.

The problem I encountered was that in game by default the unarmed running moves the player faster than both the tac rifle movement and the running rifle movement, but the unarmed running animation plays by default at a speed halfway between both of those in the config.

So that makes me think that "speed = " doesnt actually control the traversal rate of a player.

[chilly tulip]

Well, the animation would have an inherent movement speed as well.

I'd have thought you could use speed to tweak it until they were equal.

Ignore the values and just adjust them until it works.

Assuming that changing speed does also change the traversal speed.

[limber cape]

I guess to rephrase, based on the animation viewer in the editor where it shows how long an animation plays before it loops, with a speed setting of 1, the unarmed running animation plays for 0.6 seconds, while the rifle running animation plays for 2.48 seconds and the rifle tac movement speed plays for 0.416 seconds. With these values you would expect the unarmed running to be faster than the tac rifle movement but slower than the running rifle movement, but thats not the case.

Unarmed running is faster than both

I guess I could try to brute force it with multiple iterations of the speed value change but its really hard to test solo.

I had another idea for an attempt at doing this where I would just add an invisible rifle and have the medics carry that in their weapon slot, affording them the same speed and movement options of infantry. But I don't know how to go about doing that and have the hands not be holding an invisible rifle.

[chilly tulip]

If you want a better method than brute force, try running this to get a readout of your true speed:

onEachFrame {
  hint format ["Speed %1", vectorMagnitude velocity player];
};

Then you can do a tiny bit of maths to rescale.

I am assuming that speed in the animations is linearly related. Not my thing.

[limber cape]

from what I've read speed is the percentage value of the animation play time. So a value of 0.5 would play 50 frame of a 100 frame animation.

[limber cape]

Would you have any insight on how to accomplish this method? It would be the most feature complete if implemented.

[chilly tulip]

Nah, you'd need someone who knows what they're talking about with animations.

[limber cape]

Thanks for you help. Seriously that line of code above that you posted was a life saver. I think I'm getting close.

Doing this though will eliminate the ability to walk normally. Would you happen to know how to make my changes apply via a toggle keypress?

[chilly tulip]

You can't change config live. There is https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/setAnimSpeedCoef, but it might trip over other mods.

[hearty sandal]

animation playback speed does control how fast movement is

but each move animation can have different direction vector set

[limber cape]

I got that. Was just confused.

[hearty sandal]

so just looking at animations and their playback speed, you wont get anything useful for actual movement speed

[chilly tulip]

Proper way of binding keys now is this, I think: https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Modded_Keybinding

[limber cape]

I achieved my goal. Thank you guys for your help

[boreal surge]

hello, for some reason i have infinite ammo when im shooting with my custom weapon, and when i reload the secondary my primary weapon comes up and messes up the animation, is there a way to fix that\handle that? or is that the rtm file that does?

[hearty sandal]

Do you test your mod with some extra mods on top

If yes, disable everything else

[boreal surge]

i test with RHS, ace and CBA
i tested without ACE and same results
RHS is a dependency for the mod

[hearty sandal]

It is possible your rtm is messed up for the secondary weapon.

[boreal surge]

guessed so :\

[hearty sandal]

Is there something out of ordinary you try to do?

[boreal surge]

i dont know if thats crazy, but i put the grenade launcher in the secondary slot as a "pistol"

but other than that, im not adding anything else for that
i took insperation from the basic cpp from the assets

so the RTM ill fix it, but the infinite ammo is the biggest problem here
it dosent have anything that messes up the ammo counter

[severe marlin]

Anyone alive?

[chilly tulip]

That's not how the channel works. You ask the question and someone reads it when they have time.

[hearty sandal]

It's crazy yes

You need a separate model for that and it will be held like a pistol

Separate model because pistol needs to be little off center to not clip into the hand

[boreal surge]

so basicly 2 models?

[hearty sandal]

Because the pistol proxy is designed poorly

[boreal surge]

oh, ok

[hearty sandal]

How important is it to have it as secondary weapon?

And how much are you willing to compromise with it

You re unlikely to be able to make it same as primary

[boreal surge]

the weapon needs to be in the secondary slot or the third slot
will that still be the problem?

or it needs to be in the primary slot?

[hearty sandal]

Yes

[boreal surge]

understood, ill convert it to primary weapon and save myself the headache

[hearty sandal]

For weapon like that anything but primary weapon is difficult

[boreal surge]

yeah, i searched in the forums and nothing poped out about the infinite ammo bug in the secondary weapon

or no mentions

but ill figure something out

thanks for the help 🙂

[hearty sandal]

can say I recall hearing such happening

probably some error in your configs

maybe you set it to use 0 ammo on each shot or something

[boreal surge]

nope, i dont play around with the ammo count everytime im shooting

[severe marlin]

Guys I'm trying to add a uniform it works but the texture it's the default uniform texture

It's like I copied that uniform and changed the name

[hearty sandal]

copied it how?

[severe marlin]

I reskined an uniform and I wanted to add it

It worked

But not the texture

[hearty sandal]

so a retexture?

with just a config?

[severe marlin]

It's already retextured

[hearty sandal]

but you did also a retexture?

[severe marlin]

I kinda don't understand

Wdym

[hearty sandal]

me neither

Im not quite sure what you have done

[severe marlin]

I retextured a Paramilitary uniform and I wanted to add it as a new uniform

It worked

But the texture of that uniform its still the vanilla texture

[hearty sandal]

uniforms are 2 part
the uniform item in cfgWeapon
the uniform character/unit in cfgVehicles
retexturing via hiddenselections needs to be applied on both but the cfgVehicles unit is what you see on you/on a character
the cfgVehicles Item is what you see in inventory

do you have both parts?

[severe marlin]

2 texture files or 2 lines in config?

[severe marlin]

Yes it has both

[boreal surge]

found the problem
i initialized the class Mode_SemiAuto; inside of CfgWeapons, fix is to initialize it outside of the CfgWeapons

[hearty sandal]

game should be complaining about that if you try to create a weapon called Mode_SemiAuto like that

[boreal surge]

well now i found out that the game dosent care, same case with mikeros tools

[latent monolith]

anyone know which example in arma 3 samples has the CfgSurfaces

cant seem to locate it

[hearty sandal]

none?

but you can find that in vanilla config

[latent monolith]

so what its just a new class name i chuck in to my code?

trying to make it so my ship interior has metal footstep sound when im walking about it

[hearty sandal]

do you need new surcace for that?

im fairly sure there is a metal surface already in you could use

[latent monolith]

from what im reading theres a couple of existing things already im just wondering how do i go about telling the code

hey i want it to sound like this when a player walks on this surface and when it gets shot

[hearty sandal]

the surface is applied on the roadway mesh

data_f\surfaces\ from here

[latent monolith]

theres these:

soundEnviron = "drygrass"
soundHit = "concrete";    

metal
metal_plate

and thats the metal Valid values

[hearty sandal]

roadway mesh surface texture is what defines what sounds you make when you walk on it

[latent monolith]

ive got that so far afaik

[hearty sandal]

check sample house roadway for reference

[latent monolith]

thanks amigo

[stuck nest]

Anyone know off hand how to hide shells ejecting from a custom ammo type?

I forgot.

Nvm, think I found it "cartridge" in cfgammo.

[gritty rune]

can planes be sling loaded by a helo? We're trying to add this to the Unsung O-1 Bird Dog, so it can be lifted by a heavy transport helo, like Chinook or CH-53, but so far I don't see it in the sling load assistant. Mem points are present in config and model

[wintry tartan]

Yes, vanilla UAV can

[gritty rune]

thx! not sure what's missing then. mass is 1600, well within a Huron max lift capacity

[severe marlin]

Anyone can help?

[hearty sandal]

Post your config, maybe it shows some error you're making

[severe marlin]

I used an app

[hearty sandal]

these are wrong for the uniform model you use

this is what the model uses

[severe marlin]

That's for Paramilitary ?

[hearty sandal]

yes. Always when you use vanilla things it is important to check the original class and its parents for all the relevant information

as you can see here this is the original class that uses that character and its parent is the class in the previous screenshot

and the hiddenselections are defined in that base class as I have marked

[severe marlin]

I just don't know how to add another uniform

[hearty sandal]

same way

new classes

[severe marlin]

I mean don't need to add number 2 or something like that?

[hearty sandal]

you can name your classes whatever you like but it does help to keep the naming somewhat logical

[severe marlin]

Ok thanks 👍

[hearty sandal]

if you look at how vanilla classes are built you can see that the base classes are not actually used by anything in game but act as the name says bases for furhter classes and the base classes compile the shared properties that need to be same in all further child classes

so you could have your current baseclass

and then someething like
class Myblackhand_01 : base_class
class Myblackhand_02: base_class
class Myblackhand_03: base_class
class Myblackhand_04: base_class

[severe marlin]

Still doesn't work

[hearty sandal]

thats all I got at the moment

[queen viper]

So i am new in modding sound, but what Settings in config changes the ”echo” Level when firing a gun?

[severe marlin]

zzzzzzzzzzzz

[ebon pivot]

im not allowed to do this am i

[hard chasm]

agreed, you can't. You CAN inherit a common base class instead.

{ blah blah
}:
class Object
{
    class attributeCategories
    {
        class KJW_Radiate: KJW_radiate_base{};
    };
};
class Trigger
{
etc```

[ebon pivot]

indeed

i have done thati nstead

unfortunately

[hard chasm]

that's hardly your fault. it's the manner in which the inheritence chain is designed to maximise speed in operation. By no means a bad trade off. It's just possible but unlikely that their script.c language is even more efficient. (I'd vote for it regardless, if it replaced bloody awful sqX)

[opal crater]

Config files are not really related to SQF. And the enfusion config format is way worse for humans to read.

[hard chasm]

haaaaaaaaaaa Have to (almost) agree. But the sooner sqX dissapears,the better the world will be. I am, biased.
And i was relating the compilability of script.c text rather than it's use.

@opal craterI am uploading a tiny bat file here that automatically greps any .rpt file for 'your' project
if not allowed, pls delete it

(just plunk this text in a bat file, into your .rpt folder)

[opal crater]

Hmm? Where did that come from.

[hard chasm]

home grown

did it originally as part of cwr1,2 & 3

[severe marlin]

Anyone?
Can't find the problem

[shy knot]

Goat already told you how to fix it

[severe marlin]

Where?😐

[molten musk]

#arma3_config message

Next comment after your question

[severe marlin]

U mean that pic?

[severe marlin]

@molten musk

Changed that to camo,camo still doesn't work

[molten musk]

Any error or it just doesn't show up?

[severe marlin]

Doesn't show up

[molten musk]

units[] = {"BlackHand"}

Change to

units[] = {"BlackHand_UniformBase"}

And add backslash to data paths,

"\BlackHand\Data\.."

Don't see anything else difference to uniform/ unit example config
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Characters_And_Gear_Encoding_Guide

[ebon pivot]

it makes sense i just dont like throwing base classes up there 💆‍♂️

[true gull]

Hey, anyone know what I'm doing wrong here?

Get an error message when booting up arma: File test\config.cpp, line 15: '/CfgEditorSubcategories.': '{' encountered instead of '='

File in question:

class CfgFactionClasses

{
    class B_USAArmy_SOAR {
        scope = 2;
        curatorScope = 2;
        displayName = "[GI] US Army - 160th SOAR";
        side = 1;
        priority = 10;
    };
};

class CfgEditorSubcategories 
{
    {
        class air_crew 
        {
            displayName = "Air Crew";
        };
    };

    {
        class ground_crew 
        {
            displayName = "Ground Crew";
        };
    };

    {
        class special_forces 
        {
            displayName = "Special Forces";
        };
    };
}; 

#include "CfgPatches.hpp"
#include "CfgIdentities.hpp"
#include "CfgVehicles.hpp"```

[ebon pivot]

{{ in cfgeditorsubcategories

youre enclosing all your classes in {}

but not the {} from editorsubcat

[true gull]

ah right, I see it now. Thanks!

so this, right? ```cpp
class CfgEditorSubcategories
{
class air_crew
{
displayName = "Air Crew";
};

class ground_crew 
{
        displayName = "Ground Crew";
};

class special_forces 
{
        displayName = "Special Forces";
};

}; ```

[hearty sandal]

yes

[true gull]

thanks

[brave oasis]

hey, any idea what i might be doing wrong here?
vehicle is tilted
viewpilot is ok
viewcargo cargoturret is ok
viewcargo mainturret view doesnt tilt with the vehicle

[dusk jungle]

I think vanilla boats have/had this issue

no idea why though, but I remember it

[nimble sequoia]

Your vehicle?
Only a problem in one turret view, all others ok?

[brave oasis]

Yes, every other view is ok

[nimble sequoia]

ok, and q1?

[brave oasis]

Yes, also my vehicle

[nimble sequoia]

So there's likely something wrong with the proxy / turret naming / configuration / animation

Does this turret move?

[brave oasis]

Yes, traverse and elevation,

everything seems to be working in correct order

[nimble sequoia]

And should the character rotate around with it?

[brave oasis]

except for the view itself

[brave oasis]

does not, although, another vehicle with basically the same configuration inherited, in which the character does move, also reproduces this issue

[nimble sequoia]

Two things to check

1. character proxy in p3d is upright (not leaning)
2. character rtm applied in config (gunnerAction gunnerInAction) doesn't have a lean to it - change for different poses

Also check what named selection is applied to the proxy and what animations are occuring on it

[brave oasis]

it seems to be an issue with the mainturret config itself

something being inherited from mainturret class defined by bohemia

need to investigate.

[hearty sandal]

is the whole vehicle tilted or is it animated to tilt?

[brave oasis]

issue ^

current wiki says ???

but I suppose its for stabilizing the view

[hearty sandal]

4 seems to be default in class Car mainTurret

and on boats

3 instances in all vanilla config with value 4

[nimble sequoia]

Why not just try an alternative stabilizedInAxes = 0 and see what if it fixes the issue?

[hearty sandal]

👆 solid idea

[nimble sequoia]

I don't get people (in general), seems obvious to experiment and then report the result.

Probably come from a by-gone age where there was no vast knowledge of internet and it was easier to experiment than to try looking it up in your neighbours Encyclopaedia Britannica.

[brave oasis]

Which is why I reported it as the issue right above.

[nimble sequoia]

Ah, your one word report wasn't sufficiently verbose to give the idea that you had solved the issue or what you had changed it to.

Glad it's fixed though.

[brave oasis]

Sorry if it wasn't enough to understand, I'll make sure to utilize more clarifying terms next time. 😄

[nimble sequoia]

splendid ^ 😉

[true gull]

Getting error: File tfg_us_soar\tfg_us_soar_units.hpp, line 21: /CfgVehicles/tfg_us_soar_base.respawnlinkeditems: Member alteady defined:

#include "..\tfg_main\tfg_script_macros.hpp"
#include "..\tfg_identities\tfg_identities_us.hpp"
#include "..\tfg_identities\tfg_identities_us_names.hpp"
#include "tfg_us_soar_weapons.hpp"

class B_Soldier_Base_F;
class tfg_us_soar_base : B_Soldier_Base_F {
    author = "Nibbles";  
    scope = 0
    scopeCurator = 0;
    displayname = "Bob";
    genericNames = "tfg_us_names";
    identityTypes = "tfg_us_men";
    side = 1;
    faction = "tfg_us_soar";


    uniformClass[] = {"acp_US_OCP_core_U_Aetfgs_O_Soldier_03_US_OCP_insignia","acp_US_OCP_core_U_Aetfgs_O_Soldier_04_US_OCP_insignia"};
    linkedItems[] = {"DEFAULT_ITEMS_RADIO"};
    respawnLinkedItems[] = {"DEFAULT_ITEMS_RADIO"};

    magazines[] = {R2("SmokeShell")};
    respawnMagazines[] = {R2("SmokeShell"};
    items[] = {"DEFAULT_MEDICAL"};
    respawnItems[] = {"DEFAULT_MEDICAL"};
    };

    class tfg_us_soar_pilot : tfg_us_soar_base {
        editorPreview = \x\\addons\busaarmysoar\data\preview\B_USAArmy_Pilot_SOAR_01.JPG;
        author = "Nibbles";
        scope = 2;
        scopeCurator = 2;
        displayName = "Pilot";
        editorSubcategory = "air_crew";

        linkedItems[] = {"ASZ_GearHelyPilot_MM","rhsusf_hgu56p_visor_black","rhsusf_ANPVS_15"};
        respawnlinkedItems[] = {"ASZ_GearHelyPilot_MM","rhsusf_hgu56p_visor_black","rhsusf_ANPVS_15"};

        weapons[] = {"tfg_M4A1_CCO","Tier1_P320","Binocular"};
        respawnWeapons[] = {"tfg_M4A1_CCO","Tier1_P320","Binocular"};

        magazines[] = {R7("rhs_mag_30Rnd_556x45_M855A1_Stanag"), R4("Tier1_17Rnd_9x19_P320_JHP")};
        respawnMagazines[] = {R7("rhs_mag_30Rnd_556x45_M855A1_Stanag"), R4("Tier1_17Rnd_9x19_P320_JHP")};   
    };```

I can't seem to find the problem, could use an extra set of eyes...

[ebon pivot]

seems like its probably causing it

the editorpreview part

(addon builder error messages suck)

[true gull]

oh, I think you're right - completely glanced over it

tysm

[ebon pivot]

in typical kjw fashion 😎

[true gull]

unfortunately, same error still

I removed the entire editorPreview line

according to the forums there's a class which has been defined twice... but there are only two classes and they're both unique lol

[molten musk]

And this is under/in cfgVehicles?

You are including your macros and other classes in cfgVehicles or you haven't defined class cfgVehicles where your units should be

[true gull]

class CfgVehicles {
    #include "tfg_us_soar_units.hpp"
    #include "tfg_us_soar_vehicles.hpp"
};

Is what my cfgVehicles looks like, "tfg_us_soar_units.hpp" is what i posted above. "_vehicles.hpp" is currently empty

[true gull]

I am including my macro's, so that's probs what I'm doing wrong

[molten musk]

yeh

[true gull]

if I do:

class CfgVehicles {
    #include "tfg_us_soar_units.hpp"
    #include "tfg_us_soar_vehicles.hpp"
};

#include "..\tfg_main\tfg_script_macros.hpp"
#include "..\tfg_identities\tfg_identities_us.hpp"
#include "..\tfg_identities\tfg_identities_us_names.hpp"
#include "tfg_us_soar_weapons.hpp"

Will that fix it?

[molten musk]

so in your file should just be

// #include "tfg_us_soar_units.hpp"
class B_Soldier_Base_F;
class tfg_us_soar_base : B_Soldier_Base_F {
    author = "Nibbles";  
    scope = 0
    scopeCurator = 0;
    displayname = "Bob";
    genericNames = "tfg_us_names";
    identityTypes = "tfg_us_men";
    side = 1;
    faction = "tfg_us_soar";


    uniformClass[] = {"acp_US_OCP_core_U_Aetfgs_O_Soldier_03_US_OCP_insignia","acp_US_OCP_core_U_Aetfgs_O_Soldier_04_US_OCP_insignia"};
    linkedItems[] = {"DEFAULT_ITEMS_RADIO"};
    respawnLinkedItems[] = {"DEFAULT_ITEMS_RADIO"};

    magazines[] = {R2("SmokeShell")};
    respawnMagazines[] = {R2("SmokeShell"};
    items[] = {"DEFAULT_MEDICAL"};
    respawnItems[] = {"DEFAULT_MEDICAL"};
    };

    class tfg_us_soar_pilot : tfg_us_soar_base {
        editorPreview = \x\\addons\busaarmysoar\data\preview\B_USAArmy_Pilot_SOAR_01.JPG;
        author = "Nibbles";
        scope = 2;
        scopeCurator = 2;
        displayName = "Pilot";
        editorSubcategory = "air_crew";

        linkedItems[] = {"ASZ_GearHelyPilot_MM","rhsusf_hgu56p_visor_black","rhsusf_ANPVS_15"};
        respawnlinkedItems[] = {"ASZ_GearHelyPilot_MM","rhsusf_hgu56p_visor_black","rhsusf_ANPVS_15"};

        weapons[] = {"tfg_M4A1_CCO","Tier1_P320","Binocular"};
        respawnWeapons[] = {"tfg_M4A1_CCO","Tier1_P320","Binocular"};

        magazines[] = {R7("rhs_mag_30Rnd_556x45_M855A1_Stanag"), R4("Tier1_17Rnd_9x19_P320_JHP")};
        respawnMagazines[] = {R7("rhs_mag_30Rnd_556x45_M855A1_Stanag"), R4("Tier1_17Rnd_9x19_P320_JHP")};   
    };

And rest of include in config.hpp

#include "..\tfg_main\tfg_script_macros.hpp"
#include "..\tfg_identities\tfg_identities_us.hpp"
#include "..\tfg_identities\tfg_identities_us_names.hpp"
#include "tfg_us_soar_weapons.hpp"
class CfgVehicles {
    #include "tfg_us_soar_units.hpp"
    #include "tfg_us_soar_vehicles.hpp"
};

[true gull]

perfect, thanks

[molten musk]

and make sure you don't have multiple times

//soar_units.hpp
class tfg_us_soar_base: ...
//soar_vehicles
class tfg_us_soar_base: ..

[true gull]

I applied the changes you suggested - going to give it a try

[chilly tulip]

I'm a bit puzzled about the error because I thought if you redefined the class then it told you so.

And redefining a member var is fine?

[true gull]

it's still not working - there are no other classes tfg_us_soar_base, just the one

[chilly tulip]

But my inclination is that it's something in the includes causing the issue.

Whenever there's a sufficiently weird error it's in the code you didn't paste :P

[molten musk]

can you paste your vehicles.hpp , if this what you post is units.hpp

[true gull]

good shout, I'm thinking it's the "DEFAULT_ITEMS" macro, but can't find it

[true gull]

vehicles is currently empty, it's a blank file

// Inventory
#define ADDITEM(ITEM,COUNT) class _xx_##ITEM { \
    name = #ITEM; \
    count = COUNT; \
}

#define ADDMAG(ITEM,COUNT) class _xx_##ITEM { \
    magazine = #ITEM; \
    count = COUNT; \
}

#define R2(ITEM) ITEM,ITEM
#define R3(ITEM) ITEM,ITEM,ITEM
#define R4(ITEM) ITEM,ITEM,ITEM,ITEM
#define R5(ITEM) ITEM,ITEM,ITEM,ITEM,ITEM
#define R6(ITEM) ITEM,ITEM,ITEM,ITEM,ITEM,ITEM
#define R7(ITEM) ITEM,ITEM,ITEM,ITEM,ITEM,ITEM,ITEM
#define R8(ITEM) ITEM,ITEM,ITEM,ITEM,ITEM,ITEM,ITEM,ITEM
#define R9(ITEM) ITEM,ITEM,ITEM,ITEM,ITEM,ITEM,ITEM,ITEM,ITEM
#define R10(ITEM) ITEM,ITEM,ITEM,ITEM,ITEM,ITEM,ITEM,ITEM,ITEM,ITEM

#define DEFAULT_ITEMS "ItemMap", "ItemCompass", "ItemWatch", "ItemRadio"
#define DEFAULT_MEDICAL R2("FirstAidKit")

Is the scripts_macro.hpp, DEFAULT_ITEMS is defined here

I was thinking, it might be here - but looks fine to me

[molten musk]

missing )
``

[true gull]

no way

lmao

good catch

Arma launched, that's a good sign

I think it works

thank you @molten musk and @chilly tulip

[chilly tulip]

Trying to work out what that preprocesses to with the missing bracket :P

[fleet adder]

how does one use the custom effects created in an ammo class?

If I get this correctly, the steps are:

• Create class for custom Effect in root of game? (Complex Effect)
• Create a custom entry in cfgCloudlets for you fantastic effect.
• Call custom effect/cloudlet from a class defined within the complex effect using simulation type as particles
• do stuff within the effect
• set explosionEffect in the entry of cfgAmmo using the complex effect

Is this correct?

[wintry tartan]

I think you get the idea correctly

[severe marlin]

@wintry tartan

[wintry tartan]

?

[severe marlin]

Hi I'm trying to figure out my problem idk whats wrong

I'm trying to add uniform with different texture

[severe marlin]

@wintry tartan here the config

[wintry tartan]

And why you ping me

[severe marlin]

Cuz others couldn't help?

It's Paramilitary shirt

It's add uniform but the texture won't change

It shows the default texture

[wintry tartan]

Well

You're the one who doesn't help you. What HG said is the answer already

[severe marlin]

Camo,camo?

[wintry tartan]

this

[severe marlin]

I changed that didn't worked

[winter rain]

The problem is your parent class B_Soldier_F is wrong

[severe marlin]

Changed that to ind

Nothing worked

[winter rain]

Needs to be I_C_Soldier_base_F

[wintry tartan]

“Didn't worked” “Nothing worked” without your code, yeah, it won't work

class BlackHand_UniformBase: B_soldier_F {
    author = "♠Punisher♠";
    vehicleClass = "BlackHand";
    scope = 1;
    displayName = "BlackHand Unit Base";
    identityTypes[] = {"Head_NATO", "G_NATO_default"};
    genericNames = "NATOMen";
    model = "\A3\characters_f_exp\Syndikat\I_C_Soldier_Para_3_F.p3d";
    uniformClass = "BlackHand_CamoBase";
    hiddenSelections[] = {"camo1","camo2"};
    hiddenSelectionsTextures[] = {"#(argb,1,1,1)color(1,0,0,1,co)"};
};```I've changed a BIT of your code and it worked, though

[severe marlin]

Yes and didn't showed the texture

[severe marlin]

How do u know it worked? u don't have my texture file

[wintry tartan]

I put a procedural texture

[winter rain]

"camo1","camo2"

[fleet adder]

Alrighty, thanks.

In another question; The ammo/projectiles event handlers behave differently if they are grenades vs bullets right?
Is a Hit considered an explosion on grenades? Since everything else pretty much seems to activate the hit handler on impact with other stuff in the world.

[wintry tartan]

Not 100% sure. But EHs you can set in config are identical to things you can set in script, so you can test it easily

[fleet adder]

Ill try then, thanks for the input

[spare plank]

The base game scientist clothing, the texture I applied to it is not showing in game but it is showing up as a selection in Ace arsenal, anyone wanna help me out?

[winter rain]

You can also execute a script in cfgCloudlets

[fleet adder]

Yeah, I've been trying to set up the effects properly in order to execute functions from the coudlets, but I think the classes im inheriting from have limitations (flareShell) so I might have to set up the effects manually (more likely I dont know how they are supposed to work).

In the mean time I wanted to use the hit handler in order to test if the projectiles behaved properly in regard of actual script execution on impact.

[untold temple]

Trying to make a projectile that falls like a flare but with a different pfx? I think I had to set them up as a submunition for doing like canopy smoke shells in RHS. i.e. I made a normal grenade that can be fired then turns in to the submunition that's set up as a flare

[fleet adder]

Its more of grenade that has the flare effects upon activation (or atleast thats the idea).

The only missing piece is the actual effects, as everything else behaves as expected. Might just as well create a particle effect from scratch and use the stone as parent xD.

[toxic solar]

I imagine this is config related, but I am creating a mortar with a new model and p3d wise it should be good (it rotates and elevates in game fine), but in the artillery computer it gives me this hexagon range. if I manually aim with page up and page down the tube aims and the shell goes in that direction. Anything simple I might be missing?

[hearty sandal]

Is it custom shell too?

Is the configs derived from existing weapon/magazaine/ammo

[toxic solar]

just mortar model is diff, rest should be base game

[hearty sandal]

Do you have the short, med, long range muzzles?

[toxic solar]

These are my only important config changes

class Turrets: Turrets
{
    class MainTurret: MainTurret
    {
        elevationMode = 3;
        magazines[] = {"8Rnd_82mm_Mo_shells","8Rnd_82mm_Mo_Flare_white","8Rnd_82mm_Mo_Smoke_white","8Rnd_82mm_Mo_guided","8Rnd_82mm_Mo_LG"};

        initCamElev = 0;

        maxelev = 45;
        minElev = 0.0;

        maxHorizontalRotSpeed = 3.6;
        maxVerticalRotSpeed = 3.6;
        disableSoundAttenuation = 0;
    };
};

[toxic solar]

Yes

[hearty sandal]

Do those give different ranges?

[toxic solar]

yes, the weird hexagon changes, heres far

[hearty sandal]

Or is that the minimum range actually

[toxic solar]

looks to be min range

[wintry tartan]

The hexagon means drawing circle has failed (more like the radius is minus)

Which means... yeah, it failed to calc the range

[toxic solar]

is it cause I have the minElev to 0?

[hearty sandal]

Possibly

Looks like min distance is negative 4km

[toxic solar]

let me try like, idk 5 for minElve

[hearty sandal]

In your ui

[toxic solar]

oh

[hearty sandal]

And max is 0

Could also be your gun direction points are wrong way

[toxic solar]

wait, should usti hlavne be the bottom or top of the tube

[hearty sandal]

Depends what they correspond to in your config

[toxic solar]

gubBeg = bottom of tube correct?

I think I have them flipped in memory lod 🙂

[toxic solar]

Okay I think its p3d issue, the shells are launching the opposite direction so I prob messed up there, ill revist the p3d and try again

[opal crater]

If you try to create circle marker but give it negative size it's a hexagon of that size.

So it's most likely something similar. The range might be negative 😅

[true gull]

Hey! I'm still trying to learn the possibilities and limitations of config files and was wondering about the following.

Say I wanted to make a custom unit, that uses a weapon with a random attachment, could I theoretically create a new class like:

}; 

class weapon_attachments {

    class eotech : "rhsusf_acc_eotech_552";
    class compm2 : "CUP_optic_CompM2_low";

};

Reference said class in cfgWeapons like:

class CfgWeapons {
    class rhs_weap_m4a1_carryhandle;
    class M4A1_CCO : rhs_weap_m4a1_carryhandle {
        scope = 0;
        class LinkedItems {
            class LinkedItemsOptic {
                slot = "CowsSlot";
                item[] = {"weapon_attachments"};
            };
            class LinkedItemsAcc
            {
            slot = "PointerSlot";
            item = "";
            };
            class LinkedItemsBipod
            {
            slot = "BipodSlot";
            item = "";
            };
            class LinkedItemsMuzzle {
            slot = "MuzzleSlot";
            item = "";
            };
        };
    };
};

And later reference the weapon class in cfgVehicles?

[hard chasm]

short answer is no. classes with inheritence attached need class bodies {}

[true gull]

okay, is there a way to achieve it tho?

or is the long answer also no, but with more steps?

[grand zinc]

Random attachment not doable in config

[true gull]

okay, too bad. Brings me to my next question: Can I do it with faces and voices?

for cfgIdentities?

[grand zinc]

Nothing in config no

Some numbers you could randomize somewhat. It would be random value at game start or at mission start.
But all units spawned off of it will still have the same value. Because the randomization is only done once

[true gull]

Okay, makes sense. I have seen face and voice presets somewhere before, but can't find them anymore. Do you happen to know where I can find them? I'd like to see how they were made

[shy knot]

Konec hlavne is start point. Usti hlavne is direction

[toxic solar]

we love learning new languages

[livid trail]

Hey there, I want to make my vehicle sling loadable by helicopters, but I found next to no documentation to this what so ever. (possibly google skill issue)

I defined two points in config as slingLoadCargoMemoryPoints[], but that did not allow me to hook it.
Is there anything else config related that needs to be edited?
(Or do I need at least three points?)

[opal crater]

what did you define as the points? positions

[livid trail]

selections in memory lod

[opal crater]

it's memory points names.

I would try 4 points for the start

and make sure your item is not heavier than max capacity of the helo

slingLoadMaxCargoMass

[livid trail]

on it!

[opal crater]

I would expect at least 3 points to be minimum so it's stable.

[livid trail]

the mass of the gun is way heavier than the slingloading capacity of the heli
It'se set to 350 tons for some reason

[livid trail]

yep, thanks for the pointer sent over to my model guy to fix his geo lod

(350 tons becasue of the mags I spawn dangerously close to it when finished firing)

[hearty sandal]

Make the shells with particles

[livid trail]

I want the mag to hurt you if it hits you. The problem was the Arma moment of gun if mag colided during spawning. But that was sorted. The 320 tons is not necessary anymore, but I'll keep it and change it with code to 650 when folded, so it can be sling loaded only in folded state. A cheat? Maybe. But I like those

[opal crater]

there's enableRopeAttach command.

[trail sparrow]

How to fully delete the option "turn out" in a vehicle per cfg? I tried so many different things, and propably just overlook something. 😔 Its causing bugs in a mod.

[winter rain]

forceHideGunner = 1;
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Turret_Config_Reference#forceHideGunner_=_false

[toxic solar]

I have a mortar where the elevation limits are

minelev = -45;
initelev = -1;
maxelev = -1;

but the problem is the camera when u right click is also effected by this, and the below doesnt seem to have any effect

minCamElev
maxCamElev
initCamElev

so what should I do? the mortar is pointing straight up in p3d

[marble badger]

Looking at a silly idea
Can a driver position be set as firing from vehicle?

[wintry tartan]

No

FFV is a turret seat actually. Which means it is not, and cannot be a driver

[marble badger]

Hmm, could do a ugv then

[winter rain]

elevationMode = 3 or 2 if im right

[toxic solar]

I am currently on elevationMode 3, ill try 2.
the camera does move, its just stuck at the same restirctions that the mortar tube has

[winter rain]

You got to try.. i had some problems with my own Artillery if you have used the Artillerycomputer the 3rd Personview was stuck in the air after targeting/use, it needed a second model.cfg entry for the view.. Arty stuff is a bit weird done..

Im not sure if its mode 2 or 3..

But your problem could be what i had

[wintry tartan]

UGV/UAV/any autonomous are not the exception also. They are actually manned by invisible AIs

[marble badger]

I know

[wintry tartan]

I think I get your idea then. Yeah guess having an invisible AI to do it might be the way

[marble badger]

here be the silly

[winter rain]

Should work but you wont be able to turn turret or elevate.. horn is also a weapon

[wintry tartan]

Being silly is a part of Real Virtuality

[toxic solar]

sadly that didnt work, the camera is still looking at -45 to -1 degrees

[trail sparrow]

Doesnt work, the ai still peaks out every time.
For context, its a Nyx with UAV AI driver, and empty gunner for the player to sit in.
No matter what i do it turns out. So i have to actually remove turnout, instead of disallowing it.

[winter rain]

You added it to the Turret class?

[trail sparrow]

Directly in (pseudocode):

class newNyx: Nyx
{
forcehidedriver=1;
};

As that location so far had effects on driver, and idk if they have their own turret, i thought only mainturret and commanderoptics had those.

[winter rain]

I dont know anything about this vehicle but forcehidegunner should work, worked for me always

[trail sparrow]

should

[trail sparrow]

Anyone else has an idea? I tried hundreds of things at this point...

[nova scarab]

Hello guys. I m having a problem with Vehicle configuration. I have one vehicle a car, that has many parts. like bumper and so on that need to be applied by proxy. I was able to make it work in the Virtual garage. However I cant seem to have my vehicle appear with the proper parts designated by its class. I m using the code line "animationList" as you can see here ```class BRAF_LR110_gendarmerie: BRAF_LR_01_Base /// some class that is going to be visible in editor
{
scope = 2; /// makes the car visible in editor
scopeCurator=2; // scope 2 means it's available in Zeus mode (0 means hidden)
crew = "braf_soldier_light"; /// we need someone to fit into the car
side = 1;
faction = "BLU_GEN_F";
displayname = "Land Rover 110 SW (Hard Top)";

    hiddenSelections[] = {"camo1","camo2"}; ///we want to allow changing the color of this selection
    hiddenSelectionsTextures[] = {
        
        "braf_land\LR\Data\Skins\GEN\braf_landrover_GENout_co.paa",
        "braf_land\LR\Data\Skins\GEN\braf_landrover_GENin_co.paa",
        
    }; 
    hiddenSelectionsMaterials[] = {
        
        "braf_land\LR\Data\Skins\GEN\braf_GEN_landrover_out.rvmat",
        "braf_land\LR\Data\Skins\GEN\braf_GEN_landrover_in.rvmat",
        
    }; 
    
    animationList[] = {"hidebumper1",0,"HideBumper2",0,};
    
    

};```                                                         I m not sure how to call those proxy. Please any help could is Welcome. Thank you

[nimble sequoia]

You have AnimationSources classes set up for the components in the animationList?

[nova scarab]

Do you mean this ```class AnimationSources: AnimationSources
{

        class HideDoor1
        {
            scope = 0;
        };
        class HideDoor2: HideDoor1
        {
        scope = 0;
        };
        class HideGlass2
        {
            scope = 0;
        };
        class HideDoor3: HideDoor1
        {
            scope = 0;
        };
        class HideBackpacks
        {
            scope = 0;
        };
        
        
        class hidebumper1

        {

            displayName = "Hide Bumper Brazilian Army";
            source = "Proxy";
            initPhase = 1;
            forceAnimatePhase = 0;
            forceAnimate[] = {"HideBumper2",1};
            mass = -50;

        };
        
        

        class HideBumper2: hidebumper1

        {

            displayName = "Hide Bumper Gendarmerie";
            forceAnimate[] = {"hidebumper1",1};
            mass = -90;

        };
        
        class HideConstruction
        {
            scope = 0;
        };
        class hidePolice
        {
        scope = 0;
        };
        class HideServices
        {
        scope = 0;
        };
        class BeaconsStart
        {
            scope = 0;
        };
        class BeaconsServicesStart
        {
            scope = 0;
        };
        class Hide_Dashboard
        {
            scope = 0;
        };
        class Doors
        {
            scope = 0;
        };
        
        class Proxy

        {

            source = "user";

            animPeriod = 0.001;

            initPhase = 1;

        };
        
        class Beacons
        {
            scope = 0;
        };
        class Destruct
        {
            scope = 0;
        };
    };```

[nimble sequoia]

So the question, if I'm understanding it correctly, is "in a tank, can the driver be set to not have a turn-out option?"

[trail sparrow]

Exactly! Ive been trying around since days on this one. 😔 The ai is ignoring all cfg values and scripts i tried, so i want to completly remove the turnout itself.
Any help would be fantastic.

[nimble sequoia]

Maybe try changing the source type:

{
    displayName = "Hide Bumper Brazilian Army";
    source = "user";
    initPhase = 1;
    forceAnimatePhase = 0;
    forceAnimate[] = {"HideBumper2",1};
    mass = -50;
};```
and make sure your model.cfg animation class for the hide is also called `hidebumper1`

[nimble sequoia]

Cosmetically you could set the driverAction to be the same as the driverInAction

[trail sparrow]

doesnt have any effect

[nimble sequoia]

Of course it has an effect - it changes the animation rtm for the driver when turned out compared to turned in?

It won't remove the option to turn-out, but at least the driver wouldn't appear to move position.

[trail sparrow]

Its not about looks, its that driverforceoptics doesnt work if the uav ai is turned out (which it still does).
When remote controlling it, the viewpoint is at the bottom of the driver seat as it doesnt have a human model, and opticsview isnt forced.

This doesnt happen with driver and gunner being uav ai. It does when only the driver is, and the gunner is empty.

Can this in the init have to do with it? The superior in the group being deleted having some negative effect on the driver?
waitUntil {!isNull gunner _this}; _this deleteVehicleCrew gunner _this;};

[nimble sequoia]

If you remove the gunner turret from the config does that fix the driver?

[trail sparrow]

I need to test that if it gives us some info, but the gunner is meant to be player controlled.

[trail sparrow]

Like this?
delete Turrets;

[nimble sequoia]

In your new vehicle class, class Turrets {};

[nova scarab]

Yes, animation source is good it seems class hidebumper1 { type="hide"; source="proxy"; selection="bumper_EB_proxy"; // sourceAddress = clamp;// (default) minValue = 0.0;//rad 0.0 maxValue = 1.0;//rad 57.29578 hideValue = 1.0; // unHideValue = -1.0;//(default) animPeriod = 0.0; initPhase = 0.0; }; class hidebumper2 { type="hide"; source="proxy"; selection="bumper2_ENG_proxy"; // sourceAddress = clamp;// (default) minValue = 0.0;//rad 0.0 maxValue = 1.0;//rad 57.29578 hideValue = 1.0; // unHideValue = -1.0;//(default) animPeriod = 0.0; initPhase = 0.0; }; what sorce type should i change to?

[trail sparrow]

Gonna try it, but general question does delete not work? Ive seen it in the stomper cfg.
delete mainturret;
*edit this doesnt work, or has a different effect so im now gonna test {};

[nimble sequoia]

config.cpp

{
    displayName = "Hide Bumper Brazilian Army";
    source = "user";
    initPhase = 1;
    forceAnimatePhase = 0;
    forceAnimate[] = {"HideBumper2",1};
    mass = -50;
};```
model.cfg
```class hidebumper1
{
    type="hide";
    source="hidebumper1";
    selection="bumper_EB_proxy";
    minValue = 0.0;
    maxValue = 1.0;
    hideValue = 1.0;
};```

[trail sparrow]

No effect, driver ai still turns out, optics arent forced.

[nimble sequoia]

Did you verify by looking at the config in game that there were no class Turrets?

[trail sparrow]

Yes, its completly empty. (config viewer devtools)

[nimble sequoia]

Ok, so it is still purely a question of can the driver in a tank be restricted to no turn-out? Nothing immediate is coming to mind. Are there any examples where this is true?

[trail sparrow]

UGV's?
*also the same happens in wheeled apc class

[nimble sequoia]

UGV is a car

[trail sparrow]

What then is different between apc/tank, and car, and how to remove it? :/

[nimble sequoia]

It's probably hard coded to the simulation type. Tanks and APC's are typically tankx.
UGV is carx.

[trail sparrow]

That would be reeeeally unfortunate. 🥹

[nimble sequoia]

Car drivers don't get a turn-out option, but they also don't have tracks.

[trail sparrow]

Im gonna just try simulation carx, and see what effect it has, to confirm it or not atleast.

[nova scarab]

yeah no luck here. i dont know what i m doing wrong. Spend so much time on this already. LOL it should be simple!

[trail sparrow]

Nope, it wasnt simulation. Same thing still happens with carx.

Removing the gunner def has some effect on it, when not removing it the driver turnout bug doesnt happen.
waitUntil {!isNull gunner _this}; _this deleteVehicleCrew gunner _this;};
But ofc the intention is to have the player sit in the gunner seat. Are there other ways to remove it?
dontCreateAI=1; had no effect

[nimble sequoia]

Drivers in cars don't have turn-out options by default, even when they have gunners. Check Hunter HMG.
driverInAction = "";
driverAction = "driver_MRAP_01";

[trail sparrow]

Your saying driverInAction would be the option for turnout?

[nimble sequoia]

No, usually the other way around, but those are the entries for the Hunter

[trail sparrow]

Super wierd.

In this case it has:

driverInAction="Driver_LT_01_AT_F_in";```

[nimble sequoia]

so if you have a driverInAction try replacing it with ""

[trail sparrow]

Doesnt work. 😔 This is so wierd.

[trail sparrow]

@nimble sequoia Still thanks for the help. 🏅🙇‍♂️

[nimble sequoia]

I'm intrigued by this, so will do some more research later today.

[trail sparrow]

On a different note, where in cfg is declared who is "effectivecommander"? Is it always the commanderseat, or who has the highest commanding value?
Or something lese?

[shy knot]

Highest commanding value, yeah

Commander usually has like, 2 I think

Or 1 idk

[nimble sequoia]

Yes, as already confirmed, highest commanding value is commander. If you have an AI in your group occupying that seat, expect to be annoyed by it forcing you to sit in other locations or making other seats unavailable.
Also make sure you only have 1 primaryGunner and 1 primaryObserver in your vehicle, or face game instability.

primaryGunner = 0;
primaryObserver = 1;```

[trail sparrow]

I had a wierd effect:
-> Marshall IFV, with a UAV_AI driver (commanding=2;), and removed gunner/commander.
-> Sitting in commander (commanding=2;), with a friend besides me sitting in gunner (commanding=3;).

To bypass the locality issue, my friend the gunner connected to the driver, waited until it reacted to WASD, then released controls, and it didnt react to driving controls.
While for me sitting on the commander (with a intentionally lower commanding value), the same approach worked.

We swapped seats, and it also didnt work for me on gunner.
🤔

How should i best set up the commanding values for this case? Or is it a different issue?

[nimble sequoia]

Think I've found it...

class ascent_nyx: I_LT_01_AT_F
{
    scope = 2;
    scopeCurator = 2;
    displayName = "Ascent Nyx";
    hideProxyInCombat = 0;
    driverAction = "Driver_LT_01_AT_F_in";
};```

That removes the turn-out option, but he's turned out by default.

[trail sparrow]

This doesnt fully work, im gonna send you the cfg when im back home.

In my case this forces driver optics, but at the cost of both hatches being permanently open.
And the player gunner being unable to turn in, being unable to use the gun. 😂

[shy knot]

If you use forceHideDriver, forceHideGunner or forceHideCommander, it should work

At least per BIKI

[trail sparrow]

Nope. The word should works different in this game.

[rapid crystal]

Currently attempting to make a crate that can be air dropped. When I airdrop the crate from the vehicle the parachute will deploy, but the crate itself will breakaway and just fall straight to the ground. The parachute itself will continue to float down until it hits the ground.

It doesn't seem the parachute itself connects to the crate after it is dropped for the vehicle.

[shy knot]

Do you have the proper points on the model

[rapid crystal]

Is there a specific memory point for parachutes?

[shy knot]

I think you need some memory points for it. But, I’ve never done it before so I can’t really help much

[faint spruce]

I have a question: what is handling vehicle instruments ? I read bohemia's config for boats and cars but i dont understand how instruments like speedomeeters are handled. What script is handling it ? Do i have to add an init event ?

[true fossil]

It's in cfgModel, animation source should be "speed"
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Model_Config#Animation_sources

[faint spruce]

Ok, so i unerstand now for a speedomeeter with a pointer. But what for a digital speedomeeter with numbers ? You can't use animationSource

[hearty sandal]

Yes it's made same way. Just animated to swap numbers. Often by making the numbers on sides of a cylinder and animating the cylinder to rotate

[teal mirage]

hi folks, does anyone here know if there's a way to fix my vehicles from spawning in the ground as seen below with configs? I'm in no way versed well enough in arma stuff to start messing around with the 3d model

[rapid crystal]

are you able to increase turret rotation speed?

[winter rain]

maxVerticalRotSpeed = 1.8;```
change these values to your prefered one
this is in your turret config

[rapid crystal]

Is 1.8 the default speed?

[winter rain]

i dont know if its default, its just one im currently using

[rapid crystal]

Gotcha, thank you 🙏

[faint spruce]

So, for a vehicle going up to 250hm/h i hve to make a 250 faces cylinder ? Isn't that a lot ?

[faint spruce]

Or maybe i could use 3 cylinders for one speedomeeter......

[faint spruce]

By the way, if i use cylinders for a digital speedomeeter, shouln't i see the cylinders rotation ?

[hearty sandal]

Yes one roll for each

[hearty sandal]

It can be made to rotate in instant increments. You have likely seen such numbers in game sometime. They are made in this way

[cursive talon]

What's the attribute for hiding backpacks when wearing a certain uniform? I know this happens with the Full Ghillie's from Marksman DLC but I'm curious about how I can do it myself for other equipment.

[shy knot]

No backpack proxy I think?

[cursive talon]

Huh, could've sworn it was an attribute in the config...
Thanks anyways.

[shy knot]

I dont work much with uniforms, so that's what comes to mind

[faint spruce]

How o i make the rotation instnt ? For example, i have a boat which max speed will be 40 km/h, if i set the animation minValue to 0 and maxValue to 40 it will be instant ?

[trail sparrow]

How to put this script into an cfg init?

this addEventHandler ["GetIn", {
 params ["_vehicle", "_role", "_unit", "_turret"];
  if (_role =="gunner") then { _vehicle setEffectiveCommander _unit}; 
  if (isNull (driver _vehicle)) then {  
  _agent = createAgent [format["%1_Soldier_F", (typeOf _unit) select [0,1]], position _vehicle, [], 0, "NONE"];       
  _agent moveInDriver _vehicle;
  };
 }];

This has error at [|#|'GetIn' , generic error in expression, what did i do wrong?

class EventHandlers: EventHandlers
{
  init="(_this select 0) addEventHandler ['GetIn', {params ['_vehicle', '_role', '_unit', '_turret']; if (_role =='gunner') then { _vehicle setEffectiveCommander _unit}; if (isNull (driver _vehicle)) then {_agent = createAgent [format['%1_Soldier_F', (typeOf _unit) select [0,1]], position _vehicle, [], 0, 'NONE']; _agent moveInDriver _vehicle;};];";
};

I remember something like this, but what of the script to put in there? 🤔

class EventHandlers: EventHandlers
{
  class GetIn
  {
    init="?";
  };
};

Actually it gave me ".../GetIn/' is not a value", but i think there was something similar like this.

Not sure if this helps:
https://github.com/CBATeam/CBA_A3/wiki/Extended-Event-Handlers-(new)#extended_init_eventhandlers

[winter rain]

{
    init = "_this execVM '\yourModPath\scripts\yourScript.sqf';";
};```

[trail sparrow]

Saviour! 🙏

[gritty pagoda]

Hi everyone I am getting no entry/bin/config.bin/cfgpatches/6b47s.units for any mission on my server and idk what to do could someone help out please

[winter rain]

are you using own mods or mods by other developers?

[gritty pagoda]

Others compiled for the community

[winter rain]

sounds like its a problem by such mod so you got to find out which mod causes this and contact that mod to fix that

[gritty pagoda]

so it's either RHS or CUP since those are the only ones adding that russian helmet

@winter rain appreciate it very much btw

[boreal surge]

could i use this with my custom ammo?
I created this inside cfgAmmo but the cfg dosent execute\work
class EventHandlers
{
hit = "_this execVM '\DCA\weapons\data\Ringo\teargas_ammo.sqf';";
};

[winter rain]

you could add this script into your own explosion effect in class cfgCloudlets
beforeDestroyScript = "\yourAddonPath\scripts\yourScript.sqf";

[boreal surge]

do i need to import a separate class for that?

[winter rain]

maybe try this

class EventHandlers
{
AmmoHit = "_this execVM '\DCA\weapons\data\Ringo\teargas_ammo.sqf';";
};

[boreal surge]

thx 🙂 ill try that later on

[hearty sandal]

dont compile mods like that

they are bound to break

use the original mods like they are intended to be used

[gritty pagoda]

Mods were compiled in full cooperation with mod developers so it wasn't supposed to happen, also found the issue my dev is working on it. Appreciate the help very much!

[hearty sandal]

its still one of the most common mod breaking reasons when people bash together stuff and break it

[timber willow]

Hello i have some question. What define passenger seat in CfgVehicles?

[hearty sandal]

in what way?

crew seats are combination of model things and config things

so do explain what is it you try to do

[timber willow]

I would like to try adding passenger seats to the APC model.

[hearty sandal]

your own model?

you would need cargo proxies in the model to define the positions of passengers

and then corresponding cargoActions for the passengers sitting poses

you can check sample car for reference

[timber willow]

ok, thanks.

[toxic solar]

are mortars effected by maxHorizontalRotSpeed and maxVerticalRotSpeed?

doesnt seem to be working for me

[dusty relic]

having a bit of a struggle with adding visual items in vehicle appearance; I am trying to have the spoiler as an optional extra on my vehicle. it appears as an option in-game however it is not clickable, and bulldozer seems to not recognise it as an animation - so I feel this is a vehicle config thing? I've never done it before so I'm not entirely sure how to set it up.

class spoiler { type="hide"; source="user"; selection="spoiler"; memory=1; minValue=0; maxValue=1; };
For whatever reason it's not picking this up?

[dusty relic]

should be, is it under class MainTurret ?
should also be noted that "maxHorizontalRotSpeed" seems to be tied to "maxTurn" so it may be that that is affecting it?

[winter rain]

maxTurn and minTurn is just degrees has nothing to do with its speed

[dusty relic]

Hmm, yeah the wiki is worded a bit iffy on that, I see now

[nimble sequoia]

You also need an AnimationSources class in your config.cpp

   source = "user";
   animPeriod = 0.001;
   initPhase = 0;
};```
Add `"spoiler", ""` to your skeleton bones and change the animation to
source = "spoiler";
hideValue = 1;

[dusty relic]

the only thing I had to change was source = "spoiler"; and added , "" after "spoiler" skeleton.
Now Fixed, don't quite understand why, but I appreciate it man, thanks!

[nimble sequoia]

That will fix it for buldozer but without the animationSources class it won't work in game.

[dusty relic]

that was already in place, and correctly, apparently.
It was just the model config that was scuffed

[hearty sandal]

Because bones are defined in pairs

The empty "" is the root of the object

[boreal surge]

sadly this dosent work, do i have to put that inside of CfgMagazines?

class CfgMagazines
{
    class CA_Magazine;
    class dca_tear_gas_1rnd : CA_Magazine
    {
        magazineGroup[] = {"dca_tear_gas_1rnd"};
        author = "Ilya";
        scope = 2;
        type = 16;
        displayName = "40mm Tear Gas";
        picture = "";
        ammo = "SmokeGasShell";
        initSpeed = 80;
        maxSpeed = 200;
        count = 1;
        nameSound = "";
        descriptionShort = "Used in: UGL";
        mass = 6;
        beforeDestroyScript = "\DCA\weapons\data\Ringo\teargas_ammo.sqf";
        class EventHandlers
        {
            AmmoHit = "_this execVM '\DCA\weapons\data\Ringo\teargas_ammo.sqf';";
        };
    };

    class dca_tear_gas_6rnd : dca_tear_gas_1rnd
    {
        displayName = "40mm Tear Gas x6";
        count = 6;
        descriptionShort = "Used in: UGL, 6 Rounds";
        mass = 14;
        picture = "";
        class EventHandlers
        {
            AmmoHit = "_this execVM '\DCA\weapons\data\Ringo\teargas_ammo.sqf';";
        };
    };
};
class CfgAmmo
{
    class GrenadeBase;
    class SmokeGasShell : GrenadeBase
    {
        timeToLive = 60;
        timeToLiveSmoke = 60;
        ace_frag_enabled = 0;
        simulation = "shotSmoke";
        deflectionSlowDown = 0;
        initSpeed = 30; 
        thrust = 30; 
        airFriction = -0.001;
        sideAirFriction = 0.1;
        hit = 0;  
        indirectHit = 0;
        indirectHitRange = 0;
        dangerRadiusHit = 0;  
        suppressionRadiusHit = 0;
        suppressionRadiusBulletClose = 0;
        suppressionRadiusHitClose = 0;
        model = "\DCA\weapons\data\Ringo\gas_grenade.p3d";
        effectsSmoke = "SmokeShellWhiteEffect"; 
        explosionTime = 1.2; 
        caliber = 0.5;
        maxControlRange = 75;
        displayName = "40mm Tear Gas Grenade";
        descriptionShort = "40mm Tear Gas Grenade";
        smokeColor[] = {1, 1, 1, 1};
    };
};

[winter rain]

no, in your cfgAmmo

[toxic solar]

yep I got it defined in class MainTurret

[rancid lotus]

Hey! Quick question

Is it possible to use the #define and #has_include macros together?

Like so:

#if __has_include(\TEX(Collar))
    #define TEXCOLLAR TEX(Collar)
#else
    #define TEXCOLLAR "41st_ODST_Internal_Assets\41Armor\Armor\Soft_Packs_Co.paa"
#endif```

[wintry tartan]

IIRC such nested thing is impossible

[rancid lotus]

Dang... that sucks

Would have been sooo convenient

[grand zinc]

yes of course

[rancid lotus]

Oh wait really?

How?

[grand zinc]

__has_include(\TEX(Collar)) don't know if this works, I think it just reads the macro name as string, not as sub-macro

[rancid lotus]

Hmm okay

[rancid lotus]

If I put a \ in the macro do you reckon it’d work?

[grand zinc]

yes has include also specifically requires quotation marks to be used

[rancid lotus]

Ah okay

Quotation marks around the macro or within the macro?

[grand zinc]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/PreProcessor_Commands#has_include

It takes the filepath as quoted string

[rancid lotus]

I don’t think that answered my question, sorry 😅

So would it be like

__has_include(“MACRO”)

Or __has_include(MACRO)

Assuming MACRO in the second case would have quotations built in?

[grand zinc]

__has_include takes specifically only quoted string

MACRO is not a quoted string

[rancid lotus]

Got it

[grand zinc]

__has_include("*")

[rancid lotus]

Sweet, thanks!

I’ll try it soon

[rancid lotus]

Okay, trying it now

Doesn't seem to work properly- like it just defaults to the #else

Current code so far

#if __has_include("TEX(Collar)")
    #define TEXCOLLAR TEX(Collar)
#else

    #define TEXCOLLAR "41st_ODST_Internal_Assets\41Armor\Armor\Soft_Packs_Co.paa"
#endif

(Fixed, had it backwards)

What's weird is that TEX(Collar) isn't quote-enclosed

DedMen said it would work with a macro

[hard chasm]

why don't you siimply use

apples....
#else
oranges ....
#endif```

[rancid lotus]

That's what we ended up using as a placeholder, however it'd be more ideal to have it automatically check file presence

[hard chasm]

ah ok.
you can and #quotes within a define,,, moment.....

[rancid lotus]

Right now it packs fine with the code below, but it never actually shows the correct texture despite it existing

//#ifdef CUSTOM_COLLAR
#if __has_include(QUOTES(TEX(Collar)))
    #define TEXCOLLAR "41st_ODST_Internal_Assets\41Armor\Armor\Soft_Packs_Co.paa"
    //#define TEXCOLLAR "41st_ODST_Internal_Assets\41Armor\Armor\Soft_Packs_Co.paa"
#else
    //#define TEXCOLLAR TEX(Collar)
    #define TEXCOLLAR "41st_ODST_Internal_Assets\41Armor\Armor\Soft_Packs_Co.paa"

#endif```

[rancid lotus]

Moment??

Wait I'm stupid

That one's wrong

One sec

[hard chasm]

give me a moment to get the syntax

[rancid lotus]

Got it

[rancid lotus]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/PreProcessor_Commands#has_include

[hard chasm]

thing1 = QUOTE(\one\TWO.three);```

[grand zinc]

macros are not evaluated in double quoted strings

[grand zinc]

As I said... __has_include("*") The quotes are required, you cannot remove them

[rancid lotus]

Hmmm... got it, okay

[hard chasm]

the macro operates on >>>var<<< then surrounds it in quotes for the __has_include

[rancid lotus]

Got it, okay

For some reason it just isn't working properly even though TEX(Collar) shouldn't be encased in quotes

[hard chasm]

pls show this mysterious TEX(Collar)

[rancid lotus]

Wait I may know what's weong

One sec

[hard chasm]

#define QUOTE(var) #var
is all you need to pass the file\name generated by TEX() to satisfy __has_include . In fact any include needs those quotes.

[rancid lotus]

Okay so

Relevant macros are as follows:

    #define JOIN2(A,B) A##B

        #define FAMILY Camo
        #define ELEMENT Arid

    #define PATHPARENT \41st_ODST_Internal_Assets\41Armor\Armor
    #define PATH JOIN5(PATHPARENT,\,FAMILY\,ELEMENT,\)

        //Recurring definition due to use of repeat macros
    #ifndef TEX
        #define TEX(A) JOIN2(PATH,ELEMENT##A##.paa)
    #endif

    #define TEXCOLLAR TEX(Collar)```

So the end result should be something like:

TEXCOLLAR

\41st_ODST_Internal_Assets\41Armor\Armor\Camo\Arid\AridCollar.paa

So what I want to do it this:

//#ifdef CUSTOM_COLLAR             //Macro solution
//#ifdef CUSTOM_COLLAR             //Macro solution
#if __has_include("TEXCOLLAR")
    #define TEXHELMCOLLAR TEX(Collar)
#else
    #define TEXHELMCOLLAR "41st_ODST_Internal_Assets\41Armor\Armor\Soft_Packs_Co.paa"
#endif

Wait one sec

A little bit messy but you get the idea

I'm trying to work to see if it's an error with one of my earlier definitions

Nope, still no joy

I've gotten to about here

#define TEXCOLLAR Tex(Collar)

#if __has_include("TEXCOLLAR")
    #define TEXHELMCOLLAR TEX(Collar)
#else
    #define TEXHELMCOLLAR "41st_ODST_Internal_Assets\41Armor\Armor\Soft_Packs_Co.paa"
#endif

[hard chasm]

for the purposes of __has_include

__has_include( QUOTE( TEX(Collar)) )

[rancid lotus]

You sure? Copy

Also

Could I also do #TEX(Collar)?

[hard chasm]

no

[rancid lotus]

Got it

[grand zinc]

No. You CANNOT omit the quotes.
The syntax is __has_include(" ") INCLUDING the quotes. You cannot skip them

[rancid lotus]

Also got it

In that case- any idea why it's not working?

#define TEXCOLLAR Tex(Collar)

#if __has_include("TEXCOLLAR")
    #define TEXHELMCOLLAR TEX(Collar)
#else
    #define TEXHELMCOLLAR "41st_ODST_Internal_Assets\41Armor\Armor\Soft_Packs_Co.paa"
#endif

[hard chasm]

you cannot use "TEX"

the QUOTE() will surround the text for __has_include. effectively (" blah ")

[rancid lotus]

Alrighty

It's weird though, I don't think anything in TEX() wraps quotes

[grand zinc]

#arma3_config message

[rancid lotus]

OH

WAIT

DID I MISREAD WHAT YOU TYPED?

OOOF

[rancid lotus]

Wait so, it's not possible to use a macro in __has_include(" ")?

[grand zinc]

correct

[rancid lotus]

EEEEEEEEE

I could have saved so much time 😭

[grand zinc]

https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/preprocessor/include The c++ spec from which that is supports it though, so we should add that too

[rancid lotus]

Anyhow, thanks for the info

[rancid lotus]

You totally should 👀 It would be a MASSIVE help

If you give it serious consideration, ping me so I can cheer you guys on :P

Anyhow

I'm now going to go away and cry since I wasted my morning on this

Cheers!

[grand zinc]

#define QUOTE(x) #x

__has_include(QUOTE(initvars.sqf))

in 2.18 this will work. But also this

#define QUOTE(x) x

__has_include(QUOTE(initvars.sqf))

The quotes aren't really needed there

[rain scarab]

What's the dealio with numbers in configs for some of the vanilla data to have weird decimal points- is this a byproduct of binarization or something? i.e. thisParameter=4.6999998; instead of =4.7;

[molten musk]

Had same question, and I bet it goes same. Because float
#arma3_troubleshooting message

[rain scarab]

Oh!

Guess so, neat.

[hard chasm]

4.6999998; instead of =4.7;
welcome to the world of IEEE 32 bit floating point maths.

Contrary to popular belief, floating point math is imprecise. It simply cannot store the exact number in 32 bits for most values.

When you compile a float eg: 4.7, the nearest value that can actually be stored in 32 bits is 4.6999999999

so you get a difference betweem the value you wrote, and when decoded (debinarised) the result is more often than not, fractionally different.

if you think for a moment, how could you possibly store 1/3rd of something. Eg it;s not 0.3, it's 0.333333333333333333

(some decompilers btw hide this discrepency by rounding the value)

[sleek kelp]

Hello everyone, i need help with a tracked vehicle im making. For some reason i cant make it exceed 23 km/h, i tried changing the physx values the bound mem point and still nothing. Does anyone know what might be causing this?

[shy knot]

Multiple engine parameters in physX, gearbox, etc

[sleek kelp]

so its not on the wheels, but the engine that i should focus?

[shy knot]

Yes

[raw lodge]

I have a problem that really baffles me, maybe someone has an idea. I have a car with 10 windows, glass1 to glass10. Each of the windows is animated in model.cfg by an appropriate HitGlassXX to disappear when HitGlassXX is 1, and I can verify in buldozer that this works for both the "normal" geometry as well as the Fire Geometry LOD. Hitpoints are setup normally:

                                 #define GLASS(x) \
                    class HitGlass##x \
                    { \
                        passthrough = 0; \
                        visual = glass##x ; \
                        armor = 0.05; \
                        explosionShielding = 2; \
                        radius = 0.2; \
                        name = glass##x; \
                        minimalHit = 0.10; \
                    }
                    
                GLASS(1);
                GLASS(2);
                GLASS(3);
                GLASS(4);
                GLASS(5);
                GLASS(6);
                GLASS(7);
                GLASS(8);
                GLASS(9);
                GLASS(10);

Previously, I had also tried naming the hit points differently (hit_glass##x). glass1 through glass3 work perfectly fine. glass4 works too, HOWEVER; when I destroy hitpoint HitGlass4, glass5 to glass10 ALSO disappears, even though diag shows that the hitpoints HitGlass5 to HitGlass10 are all zero damage. If I only destroy HitGlass4, then HitGlass1 through 3 stay zero and the fire geometry and glass geometry stays.

This really has me scratching my head, and I can't figure out what is wrong.

[nimble sequoia]

It works in Buldozer but not in game?
You have animationSources set-up for all the windows?
eg

{
    source = "Hit";
    hitpoint = "hitGlass6";
    raw = 1;
};```

Check the glass selections aren't double-named (glass1 AND glass 4), also not part of any other selections such as camo

[raw lodge]

Geez, you are right... all of the HitGlassX after 4 have HitGlass4 as hhitpoint 😐

Thank you, I think that was the problem, testing...

It was indeed the problem. Copy-pasted, stuck into an include file, and forgotten Thanks for the help

[nimble sequoia]

Excellent, you're welcome.

[shy knot]

Happens a lot to me too. I forget the most basic shit 😂

[raw lodge]

Yeah, it's confirmatiojn bias... "I am sure that stuff is correct, so it must be Arma's fault" 🙂

[drifting skiff]

how is mass calculated, is it a certain weight unit or something?

[hearty sandal]

Mass in what sense?

[drifting skiff]

mass as in weight

[wintry tartan]

What kind of thing you are doing?

[hearty sandal]

Mass for what?

[drifting skiff]

gear, weapons, equipment, anything

[hearty sandal]

Ace mass?

[drifting skiff]

propably?

[hearty sandal]

I mean you will need to be specific

What is it you try to do

[drifting skiff]

figured it out myself

[hearty sandal]

Do tell what you found so we can tell next one who wonders the same thing!

[sleek kelp]

hello guys, in a vehicle, how can i make an animation play when a weapon is selected? i would like for it to work like in the vanilla vehicles with atgms, where if switch to that weapon the launcher covers open

[hearty sandal]

animations need to use HoldsterValue source and weapons need to be configured with a corresponding value

[sleek kelp]

thanks, im trying to find documentation on this topic, but by searching HoldsterValue i find nothing

[hearty sandal]

you wont probably find anything specific

its described in the modelc.cfg wiki page

but not much else

maybe in the BIforums there may be few questions/answers too

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Model_Config#Animation_sources

MaxHoldsterValue is the full name of it

[hard chasm]

Despite my all-to-frequent criticisms of BI, that document is the clearest and best i've seen on the biki. Better in fact that many wiki tutes. You owe it to yourselves to be aquainted with it so that you understand the total absence of #includes, and the straightforward manner in how bones connect to each other.

[hearty sandal]

its been one of the most frequented wiki page for me along the years 😄

[hard chasm]

if you haven't read it, then you are garanteed to introduce typos in (eg) ofpManSkeleton, or keep pasting the same , often wrong, 'skeleton' from one project to the next one instead of simply declaring it once at the root of your P drive.

there is never a reason to declare class rotation eg in each separate project you make.

[nimble sequoia]

And yet the official samples still have all sorts of errors that continue to be replicated...

[hearty sandal]

Sad truth

[trail sparrow]

Cause found:
https://www.reddit.com/r/armadev/comments/7vz67h/uav_ai_dilemma_config_editing_question/

Didnt yet found a direct solution.

But i was lucky that atleast the Nyx is tracked. So hasDriver=-1; works on it, compared to wheeled vehicles. Which some of the other vehicles im working on are. :/

[rare garnet]

I have a useraction that creates a say3d with a varname but in a second useraction I cannot delete the declared varname, do i need to make the varname public?

[sullen harbor]

is there a way to assign a prefix to a subfolder that way p3ds can refrence proxies? ie change path from /prefix/subfolder/data to /subfolder/data

I tried assigning prefixes to each subfolder but no luck

[cursive talon]

How would I go about implementing something similar to backup optics on rifle scopes but for a binocular? I'm working on an improved laser designator and would like to separate NV and TI from the daysight as I will be using a different shaped optic body for the them.

[hearty sandal]

Sounds complicated. Why not just use the path the proxy is at?

[hearty sandal]

It may not be possible

[sullen harbor]

Organization, if it were serious I would edit all p3ds and proxy paths

[hearty sandal]

You'll need to se the path in p3ds If you change folder structure

[cursive talon]

Not sure if this is something I have "understood" correctly but when I tap Ctrl+RMB it does look like it is attempting to switch to another optic of some kind as it flickers out to a different view very, very briefly.

[hearty sandal]

Have you ever seen such feature work in any binocular

If it can work, it would be done same way as with other weapons

[cursive talon]

Yeah, fair point.

[cursive talon]

Got it. Yeah I tried to do it the same way as the regular weapon but I'm guessing because modelOptics[] = {}; is defined in the first level config it isn't possible.

Thanks anyways.

[hearty sandal]

I cant say for sure its not possible but at least I cant say Id have never seen that done

gut feeling is that it dont work because binocular is not quite same as the weapons

[novel lava]

I think you can add extra optics to it

whether they work though im unsure

the only use ive seen of it was a long time ago there was a 'iron sight' mode for binocs - cuz iirc in arma 2 it would force you into optics view when using them

and the ironsight view was basically to do what arma 3 does normally where you just hold them but arent in the optic

[hearty sandal]

could be it works then 👍

[versed stratus]

Where we can get values for minFov entry inside opticsIn class of vehicle?
Right now it is initFov = 0.269231; and i have 0.9x zoom with it. Which value should i put to have x2 zoom e.g. ? How to calculate this stuff?

[nimble sequoia]

zoom level = 0.25 / initFOV
or
initFOV = 0.25 / zoom level

[shy knot]

If you're using CBA, CBA has a handy magnification helper

[versed stratus]

@nimble sequoia ty
@shy knot can you share a link for it ?

[shy knot]

(desired zoom #) call (uiNamespace getVariable 'cba_optics_fnc_setOpticMagnificationHelper')

So, if you want 4 times zoom, it would just be 4

Though, if you're mod doesnt rely on CBA, this would make it a dependency

[rapid crystal]

Is there a way to add hit points (i.e. health) to a vehicle without increasing the armor? Is armor the only form of health?

[hearty sandal]

Armor value in config is health

armor type is tied to the model and what penetration material the hit geometry uses

[hearty sandal]

if you explain what the use case is perhaps better advice can be given

[rapid crystal]

Want a vehicle to have a larger health pool but still be able to take damage from small arms fire like an assault rifle.

Once I bumped the armor up to 250 it stopped taking damage from small arms fire.

let me mess with the penetration value.

[hearty sandal]

there is no penetration value

its part of the model itself

[rapid crystal]

Yeah, the fire geo right?

e.g. 10mm armour

[hearty sandal]

yes

this for a custom vehicle?

[rapid crystal]

It is.

[hearty sandal]

right, yeah if you have access you can change that sure

but having more health is controlled by the armor value

and possibly modulated by hitpoints (in config)

[rapid crystal]

Got another question here, in the config under 'Class HitPoints', are these all tied to just the 'Hit-Point'? What is the general use for this class?

[hearty sandal]

There is a wiki page about damage modeling which might be good read and answer a lot of your questions

[rapid crystal]

I'll give it a look, thanks.

[novel lava]

need to lower / set to 0 the mindamagethreshold or whatever its called

minTotalDamageTreshold

and minimal hit on hitpoints

although id recommend looking at armorStructural, because if you set armor too high AI wont shoot even if they can damage it

with small arms

[ebon pivot]

does __has_include work within define macros?

[wintry tartan]

🤔 good question

What's your current preprocessors?

[ebon pivot]

im using #define for doing bulk textures but when i try and do a #__has_include for if rvmat exists adjacent to _co then to include it as a hiddenselectionmaterial

[ebon pivot]

i forgot to finish that sentence

when i try and do that addonbuilder refuses to build

but when not within a #define its fine

yes i am remembering \ at the end of each line

[hard chasm]

the answer is yes

__has include works within a define

paste your code

just confirm with my tools (if you want to) that your syntax is correct.

[ebon pivot]

i dont use your tools

ive deleted it now but literally ctrl+x'ing the same thing out and getting rid of the \ at the end of each line worked fine so i have no idea

[grand zinc]

That was asked a few days ago by Stoney.

You need to be more clear.
Can you #define in a #if block? Of course.
Can you use a macro, as the filename in has include.
Not before yesterday's dev/profiling branch.
Can you use preprocessor commands inside a #define macro definition? No. At least I've never seen that anywhere (Arma or C) and I don't think the Arma preproc processes commands when inserting macro replacements

[ebon pivot]

roger doger third one answers thanks

[rare garnet]

do you need to define
ammo[]={}
magazines[]={}
in CfgPatches

[grand zinc]

Neither of these exists/has any purpose in the engine, and I'm pretty sure you have already been told as such

[rare garnet]

I was in the ACE3 discord when figuring out another issue but I wanted to confirm as I saw CDLC S.O.G, defines it which made me want to double check.

[ebon pivot]

probably gets used in scripts by them

[rare garnet]

i doubt it since its just ignored I would assume if its not required to be defined.

[ebon pivot]

everything you write in config gets put into the classes so long as its syntaxically correct

cfgpatches is no exception

[hard chasm]

magazines[]={}```
rapify (part of mikero's toolset) lists all *public* items in cfgVehicles, cfgWeapons, cfgAmmo, cfgMagazines.  The latter two cause no harm and are only written IF there is in fact some ammo or magazines! They are there to assist you with informatian on sometimes very large config files. (same reason in fact why missions use units[]= and weapons[]=).

note *public*. pboProject ignores anything you scribble into units and weapons and re-writes those arrays[]  with the truth. If it aint public, it aint there.

[stuck nest]

Hello, I'm probably not doing it right at all, but would this be the appropriate method to get a map to inherit the sky from another map?

class CfgWorlds {
class Enoch;
class chernarus: Enoch
{
};
class chernarus_summer: chernarus
{
};
class chernarus_winter: chernarus
{
};
};

[wheat sluice]

Unless you're writing those configs from scratch (as in this isn't a replacement addon), you'll mess up the inheritance chain for those maps and cause a lot of strange mismatches.

If you want to swap out the lighting with those used by the Livonia terrain, you'll have to tweak the lighting settings line by line.
I'd suggest taking a look at how the First Contact campaign's version of Livonia does it (in \a3\data_f_contact\config.bin).

[tulip escarp]

Any reason this always runs the #else section? (dev branch)

#ifdef __A3_DEBUG__
    #define XPS_DEBUG 1
#endif

#ifdef XPS_DEBUG
    #define XPS_ISFINAL isFinal = 0
    #define XPS_RECOMPILE recompile = 1
#else 
    #define XPS_ISFINAL isFinal = 1
    #define XPS_RECOMPILE recompile = 0
#endif```

It was just A3_DEBUG in place of XPS_DEBUG before but wouldn't work so I am trying to figure out why.

tried w/ no mods same result

[tulip escarp]

tried on stable branch. I can confirm XPS_DEBUG is working. Here's the full story then...

#define XPS_CFG_TYP(typName) class typName {\
    file = FILEPATH_C_Q(typedefs\typName.sqf);\
    type = "typ";\
    preprocess = 1;\
    allowNils = 1;\
    noStack = 1;\
    XPS_RECOMPILE;\
    XPS_ISFINAL;\
}```

in preInit : sqf XPS_DebugMode = false; #ifdef XPS_DEBUG XPS_DebugMode = true; #endif

so XPS_DebugMode is true/false according to the -debug startup param. but isFinal is always 1 and recompile is always 0

if I comment out the _A3_DEBUG then everything works fine?

 
// #ifdef __A3_DEBUG__
    #define XPS_DEBUG 1
// #endif```

[hard chasm]

if this is in a config.cpp, do not binarise it. (all #preprocessing is removed)

[tulip escarp]

it's in a script.macros.hpp file. config is binarizeed (HEMTT) but here's the weird thing... XPS_DEBUG is working fine. So XPS_DEBUG is being defined. But as soon as I #ifdef/#ifndef either XPS_DEBUG or A3_DEBUG it is neither "defined" nor "undefined" . It just runs the #else branch or nothing if no #else branch.

or does binarizing the config.cpp file cause this even outside of it?

This might be a HEMTT issue now that I look at it. I am running .\HEMMT dev -O and technically my config.cpp should NOT be binarized but it clearly is

new version downloaded but still same issue. I'd try disabling binarizing but there's only a xwitch to enable it according to docs. "-b" and I'm not including that switch 🤔

disabled in project.tonl and still binarizing config.cpp and now it's even worse. I have sqfc files everywhere I dont want built. well ffs

packaged it manually. still not working. I'll see if I can repro on something smaller

[hard chasm]

i think i know the problem!!!

arma needs

#define true 1
#define false 0

if you were using my tools you would never need to do this.

without the defines
thing = false; is converted to as string and always presents as being non-zero

[nova scarab]

Hey guys I have a APC that the AI does not shooting /engage, only engaging when very close and even then shooting at the ground? Please help!

[true fossil]

That's only true if it's a config, preInit is often sqf, which does have the true or false / boolean datatypes

[hard chasm]

you are quite right for sqf. In fact, it's 'true' and 'false' not a boolean.

when sqf is used in configs, "it is enclosed in quotes" so the defines don;t affect it

[true fossil]

It's not a config though, I went and checked his git repo, it's a function that's packed as part of the mod

in an sqf file

[hard chasm]

ok. that was not at all clear.

[true fossil]

But mikero is right, hemtt is binarizing rapifying at build/packing which is stopping your #ifdef __A3_DEBUG__ from working the way you want it as those macros have to evaluated to binarize rapify (as far as I know). Looking at the documentation for hemtt you can stop it from binarizing rapifying by changing the "addon.toml".
(corrected by veteran below)
https://brettmayson.github.io/HEMTT/configuration/addon.html

[hard chasm]

and everything you need to know to build any bis engine? <silent grin>

one more comment about sqX. #includes were first used by the community (SickBoy and Kju). You have them to thank for CBA etc. One unfortunate act was to call their includes HPP instead of (say) SQH.
we have been living with this confusion ever since. The least of which in including acres of useless config.cpp related files in pbos because you can't filter. (well you can with pboPro, but it's painful)

[opal crater]

It's intentional, these files allow for easy file patching.

Maybe they're useless for normal users but they're small so that doesn't matter that much.