#arma3_feedback_tracker | ARMA | Page 30

uncut briar Oct 22, 2020, 3:39 PM

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sleep? What's that?

gray wharf Oct 22, 2020, 3:40 PM

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that thing for the weak

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I do that a lot

sinful kettle Oct 22, 2020, 3:59 PM

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I do that a lot
I've never seen you sleep. You're here 24/7!

gray wharf Oct 22, 2020, 4:00 PM

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lies!

hardy matrix Oct 22, 2020, 4:00 PM

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Liar

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I sleep till 23am

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Cause im lazy to lock my eyes

lapis osprey Oct 22, 2020, 11:35 PM

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@untold sky Are we going to get a fix on the VON slider not working? Currently it's basically an on/off toggle, no in-between. For some reason you can change the VON volume with effects though? Pretty broken stuff.

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154335

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Seems like there is a ticket for it as well.

daring wagon Oct 22, 2020, 11:37 PM

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There is a fix on profiling branch so far I know. I dunno if a hotfix is planned or not

lapis osprey Oct 22, 2020, 11:38 PM

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Hope so, I mean it's very annoying not being able to turn down people's volume haha

untold sky Oct 23, 2020, 8:54 AM

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just switch to profiling branch. Youll get your fix, and free performance improvements on top

daring wagon Oct 23, 2020, 9:07 AM

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@lapis osprey If you dunno how: https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_Steam_Branches

fickle root Oct 23, 2020, 4:44 PM

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would have been cool if one could simply move existing markers, instead of deleting, putting again and naming it/them again

untold sky Oct 23, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Just use ACE then.

fickle root Oct 23, 2020, 4:45 PM

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mod...

untold sky Oct 23, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Yep. Have fun

daring wagon Oct 23, 2020, 4:59 PM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154453 (Old Man: Virus Task) Any chance someone can look into this? I had this error now in two playthroughs. Others seem to have the same issue. See #old_man_feedback

untold sky Oct 23, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Afaik old man guy is currently too busy

daring wagon Oct 23, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Ah too bad. Hope he finds some time at some point.

strong ermine Oct 23, 2020, 8:58 PM

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It’d be nice to have a functional VoN slider in the volume options, considering it has been working perfectly fine since the release of the game (and even in Arma 2). It only became bugged out in the recent 2.00 update when one of the devs “unified the VoN volume handling” for an undisclosed reason. It really is a mystery why the bug wasn’t fixed within 24 hours of it being reported, considering how major it is. Every other game I play has the ability to modulate voice chat volume independently of effects - and for a very good reason. I’m not going to pretend to know everything, but it doesn’t sound too complicated to revert back to the previous VoN handling that never had any issues to my knowledge. Telling people to switch to and download a separate branch of the game that is incapable with the majority of servers that people play on, and recommending they just install mods to make the issue irrelevant, sets a dangerously low standard for Bohemia Interactive. I hope that someone will take responsibility for the issue and commit to making Arma 3 great again by setting higher standards for the development team. I shouldn’t have to rely on mods to make the game playable. Mods are meant to expand upon or improve and already working game. They should not be required in order to fix a broken voice chat. Incase anyone still doesn’t know what I’m talking about, I will link to the feedback tracker post and explain it here very briefly:

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VoN volume slider in vanilla Arma 3 is broken because:

VoN slider at 0% mutes VoN
VoN slider >0% enables VoN
VoN slider between 0 and 100 does not change voice chat volume
Effects slider changes all voice channel volume.

https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154335

So, I think by unifying it (still confused why this was even done), the dev in question linked the volume of all voice channels to the effects slider, which is what direct chat was always tied to. The reason I view this as a major issue that needs to have a higher priority is because there are many people who play on Official and other un-modded servers, which rely on the default voice chat system. Because of this bug, people have taken a break from Arma 3 because they don’t want to damage their hearing in order to hear others in voice chat. You have to turn your effects volume up higher to hear people, but this obviously makes other sounds in the environment really loud. I think at this point the community is due an explanation of why this was done in the first place, and why they are so reluctant to fix the problem on the main branch...

untold sky Oct 23, 2020, 8:58 PM

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uh

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Did you read the last comment on the FT icon?

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The answer is there.

strong ermine Oct 23, 2020, 9:00 PM

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It’s fixed on main branch?

untold sky Oct 23, 2020, 9:02 PM

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and recommending they just install mods to make the issue irrelevant
mods cannot fix this issue, its a engine bug
It really is a mystery why the bug wasn’t fixed within 24 hours of it being reported
it was fixed. Right after it was reported.
a separate branch of the game that is incapable with the majority of servers that people play on
incapable? its perfectly compatible with all servers, and even has some additional performance improvements and bugfixes.
back to the previous VoN handling that never had any issues to my knowledge
Direct chat was always on effects volume slider, instead of the VON volume slider, people have been reporting that for the last 4 to 7 years, but devs never noticed that issue nor saw reports about it.
I hope that someone will take responsibility for the issue
I broke it, and I fixed it within hours after seeing the report.

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You have to turn your effects volume up higher to hear people, but this obviously makes other sounds in the environment really loud.
This was always an issue with direct chat

strong ermine Oct 23, 2020, 9:03 PM

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Should direct chat have it’s own slider then?

untold sky Oct 23, 2020, 9:04 PM

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I think at this point the community is due an explanation of why this was done in the first place
Quite sure I explained that already... Cleaned up the code, didnt expect that VON volume would ever be controlled by effects volume, because I expected (as is logical) it to be controlled by the VON volume slider, wasn't the case, but didnt expect or know and thus didnt check for that, neither did the people who reviewed and tested the change.

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No why? VON volume is VON volume. All VON volume no matter what type, should be on the VON Volume slider

strong ermine Oct 23, 2020, 9:05 PM

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Alright thats cool, so now von controls direct chat as well?

untold sky Oct 23, 2020, 9:05 PM

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yeah

strong ermine Oct 23, 2020, 9:05 PM

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Sounds like an improvement, good work I suppose

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Im gonna report another issue here if thats alright

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It has to do with the A3 Units

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When you have a long link as the website of your unit, it will glitch out the ui, making the buttons for mute, vote kick, vote admin, and kick off dissapear

untold sky Oct 23, 2020, 9:08 PM

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ingame? in the map screen?

strong ermine Oct 23, 2020, 9:08 PM

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Yes, on the player list

untold sky Oct 23, 2020, 9:08 PM

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Make a ticket and I might look into it. This channel is just for discussion not for actual bug reporting

strong ermine Oct 23, 2020, 9:09 PM

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Well at least know u know about it

untold sky Oct 23, 2020, 9:09 PM

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yeah until I forget again in a few days

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^^

strong ermine Oct 23, 2020, 9:11 PM

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It’s especially powerful for trolls when coupled with putting an emoji in their name, since emojis dont show up in-game and nobody’s gonna guess which one it is... making chat commands like #kick innefective as well

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This makes the only way to kick them off the buttons on the lobby screen

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Keep in mind i’m talking vanilla here, so no admin menus of the sort

untold sky Oct 23, 2020, 9:13 PM

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I think #kick should also accept the steamid of a user, not sure

strong ermine Oct 23, 2020, 10:27 PM

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Is there an eta for when the von fix will be on main branch? Does it need more testing?

untold sky Oct 23, 2020, 10:29 PM

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no eta

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But yes we also pushed it to profiling branch, to get some testing and feedback for the change

strong ermine Oct 23, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Ok cuz i had to google the access code for that branch. Anyways, the reason I would recommend a separate slider for direct chat is because you might want to hear people better in direct chat at a distance without turning up the other channels. Better yet, have sliders for all channels because sometimes there will be people talking over your group members. I guess I could just mute them individually, but it would be convenient to have a feature like this. Thats my feedback

daring wagon Oct 24, 2020, 10:17 AM

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Was something changed in the Scenario Menu? Scenarios don't seem to get marked anymore as played. (Profiling Branch)

untold sky Oct 24, 2020, 10:23 AM

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negative

solid marten Oct 24, 2020, 11:49 AM

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@daring wagon was it changing on profile branch before?

daring wagon Oct 24, 2020, 1:00 PM

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@solid marten That I don't know. I just did another test on dev branch and calling BIS_fnc_endMission does also not mark the mission as played. I will do some further testing if you want.

solid marten Oct 24, 2020, 1:09 PM

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could you try it on 2.00?

daring wagon Oct 24, 2020, 1:10 PM

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Did, doesn't work. Downloading legacy now. Also switched to a new, clean profile and no mods of course. I keep you posted.

solid marten Oct 24, 2020, 1:11 PM

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thanks

daring wagon Oct 24, 2020, 1:44 PM

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Okay, on Legacy the following happened:

Local mission still didn't get marked as played
All my Steam mission which were not marked as played in the other builds suddenly became marked as played.

So I don't know what's wrong. I'll ask around if someone else has that issue.

trim acorn Oct 24, 2020, 10:38 PM

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I'm having trouble hearing people speak because effects volume now effects VON as well

ornate marlin Oct 24, 2020, 10:38 PM

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known, fixed in perf branch
#perf_prof_branch

stable robin Oct 25, 2020, 1:01 PM

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i'm not sure, if it is bugtracker in this discord, but i need to vent and report - please, remove delete action from Enter key in Publish to Steam Workshop modal window in the Eden Editor

I accidentially deleted my mission with 4k subs and have no chance to recover it 😠

daring wagon Oct 25, 2020, 1:04 PM

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But you have to press enter twice to actually delete it.

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But yeah, Enter should never focus on delete.

gray wharf Oct 25, 2020, 1:04 PM

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ideally the second Enter should be on "Cancel" yes

daring wagon Oct 25, 2020, 1:05 PM

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Or like that

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Just checked, there is also no indication what button is focused when the GUI is opened. Arma GUI 🤷‍♂️

sinful kettle Oct 25, 2020, 2:47 PM

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The game crashes when I delete a controlsGroup using a child button in one frame (as in: onButtonClick = "ctrlDelete ctrlParentControlsGroup (_this#0)")
But if I spawn it everything is fine (even if I put isNil around it to force the code to run in one frame: onButtonClick = "_this spawn {isNil {ctrlDelete ctrlParentControlsGroup (_this#0)}}")
Is this a bug?

untold sky Oct 25, 2020, 3:09 PM

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jup. and its not new either

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you are deleting stuff while stuff is being processed on it

sinful kettle Oct 25, 2020, 3:10 PM

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So why does spawning the code work?

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Maybe because it happens in the next frame(s)?

alpine tulip Oct 25, 2020, 3:11 PM

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spawn does execute the code a bit later than its execution, if my knowledge is correct

sinful kettle Oct 25, 2020, 3:11 PM

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it does

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at least one frame later

untold sky Oct 25, 2020, 3:11 PM

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yes because it happens later

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and in a different section of the frame

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outside of UI processing code

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in general deleting controls inside events

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imagine a control with 3 eventhandlers
the 2nd EH deletes the control. So engine goes "okey Im done with the second, lets get to the third, I already have it here right next to... wait.. where is it.. I had it here! I just printed that out! where.. wtf.. Bridget!!! Wheres my handler! I know I put it here! Bridget come help! Bridget!!"

sinful kettle Oct 25, 2020, 4:31 PM

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Interesting. Same thing happens with ctrlEnable!

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Children should never mess with their parents! Lesson learned! 😉

raven hollow Oct 25, 2020, 9:09 PM

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Okay, dedmen goes more mental, than usual. Something is odd.

finite anvil Oct 26, 2020, 12:18 AM

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when placing any of the vr soldiers (or civillian) in 3den on diag branch you get this rpt log:

Selection missing in CfgModels
  class vr_protagonist_f
    "camo3",

untold sky Oct 26, 2020, 8:20 AM

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Sounds like a ticket for reyhard meowtrash

daring wagon Oct 29, 2020, 1:25 PM

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On dev branch. When switching from a mission which has function in CfgFunctions defined to an empty mission, the .rpt gets spammed with:

14:24:03 Warning Message: Script functions\fn_alarm.sqf not found
14:24:03 \/Context:     [] L291 (A3\functions_f\initFunctions.sqf)
    [] L299 (A3\functions_f\initFunctions.sqf)
    [] L304 (A3\functions_f\initFunctions.sqf)
    [] L314 (A3\functions_f\initFunctions.sqf)
    [] L323 (A3\functions_f\initFunctions.sqf)
    [] L328 (A3\functions_f\initFunctions.sqf)
    [] L333 (A3\functions_f\initFunctions.sqf)
    [] L338 (A3\functions_f\initFunctions.sqf)
    [] L374 (A3\functions_f\initFunctions.sqf)
    [] L375 (A3\functions_f\initFunctions.sqf)
    [] L102 (A3\functions_f\initFunctions.sqf)
    [] L129 (A3\functions_f\initFunctions.sqf)
    [] L132 (A3\functions_f\initFunctions.sqf)`

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The file exists and definition is correct*

gray wharf Oct 29, 2020, 1:26 PM

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in v2.00 too
I get a "hey, file not found" when trying to get a fresh new start

daring wagon Oct 29, 2020, 1:27 PM

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Yeah, it's been always like this, but wasn't it supposed to be fixed?

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Need to check the ticket for the status

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Also I am not sure if this kind of rpt log is not a bit too much

14:26:30 Attempt to override final function - bis_fnc_om_modulefasttravel
14:26:30 \/Context:     [] L1 ()
    [] L3 ()
    [] L9 (A3\functions_f\debug\fn_recompile.sqf [BIS_fnc_recompile])
    [] L11 (A3\functions_f\debug\fn_recompile.sqf [BIS_fnc_recompile])
    [] L291 (A3\functions_f\initFunctions.sqf)
    [] L299 (A3\functions_f\initFunctions.sqf)
    [] L304 (A3\functions_f\initFunctions.sqf)
    [] L314 (A3\functions_f\initFunctions.sqf)
    [] L323 (A3\functions_f\initFunctions.sqf)
    [] L328 (A3\functions_f\initFunctions.sqf)
    [] L333 (A3\functions_f\initFunctions.sqf)
    [] L338 (A3\functions_f\initFunctions.sqf)
    [] L381 (A3\functions_f\initFunctions.sqf)
    [] L382 (A3\functions_f\initFunctions.sqf)
    [] L396 (A3\functions_f\initFunctions.sqf)
    [] L392 (A3\functions_f\initFunctions.sqf)

untold sky Oct 29, 2020, 1:29 PM

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do the functions work despite the error? or is CfgFunctions in missions outright broken?

daring wagon Oct 29, 2020, 1:29 PM

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Let me check

untold sky Oct 29, 2020, 1:29 PM

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it is too much, it will be hidden behind a new -debug command line option

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it is already hidden behind -showScriptErrors

daring wagon Oct 29, 2020, 1:29 PM

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Seems broken, functions viewer shows empty text

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it is too much, it will be hidden behind a new -debug command line option
@untold sky Awesome

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Something I am not sure how others think about is the default stuff that is always logged into the rpt. Right now I have 700 lines telling me what pbo was loaded, that some base classes are being updated and other stuff. Would it be possible to hide that behind another debug command as well?

uncut briar Oct 29, 2020, 1:33 PM

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this info is important when you get issue reports as mod developer

untold sky Oct 29, 2020, 1:33 PM

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the "no geometry or visual shape" I'm hiding. The list of what PBO's is loaded is important for analyzing crashes, so has to always be on

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base class errors should just get fixed ┬─┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ)

uncut briar Oct 29, 2020, 1:33 PM

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Yeah, the UBCs should get fixed.

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There should be 0 UBCs when starting vanilla meowtrash

daring wagon Oct 29, 2020, 1:34 PM

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I am fine with the addons but yeah, these base classes are just annoying

untold sky Oct 29, 2020, 1:34 PM

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I have no idea about your file not found issue. Maybe @solid marten knows what it could be.
Best would be if you can provide repro mission and FT ticket

daring wagon Oct 29, 2020, 1:37 PM

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It's also kinda ironic that it doesn't tell me that the functions don't exist when loading the scenario they are defined in, but rather when I load a differerent scenario

untold sky Oct 29, 2020, 1:37 PM

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oh thats... interesting

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repro needs 2 repro missions probably.
"First load this mission, then switch over to that mission"
Maybe when switching to new mission, it somehow reads old missions CfgFunctions

daring wagon Oct 29, 2020, 1:39 PM

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This is the scenario without functions. See how the entity list is also not updated.

📎 20201029143833_1.jpg

untold sky Oct 29, 2020, 1:40 PM

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yeah FT ticket, good find 😄

uncut briar Oct 29, 2020, 2:06 PM

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Maybe when switching to new mission, it somehow reads old missions CfgFunctions
that popup was always a thing afaik 😄

solid marten Oct 29, 2020, 2:21 PM

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ticket please with repro

daring wagon Oct 29, 2020, 3:20 PM

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@solid marten https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154708

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And the second requested ticket https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154710

daring wagon Oct 29, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Is there a ~~script error~~ logic error in line 21/ 22 in BIS_fnc_sandstorm?

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_density = if (count _this > 1) then {_this select 1} else {0.07}; if (_density < 0) then {_density = 0.07};
_colorCoef = if (count _this > 2) then {_this select 2} else {1}; if (_colorCoef < 0) then {_density = 1}; //Shouldn't that reset _colorCoef to 1 instead of _density?

untold sky Oct 29, 2020, 4:43 PM

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thonk

gray wharf Oct 29, 2020, 4:44 PM

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Dedmen do no squieff

solid marten Oct 29, 2020, 5:00 PM

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@daring wagon looks like copy paste error can you make ticket as well? thanks for the other 2

uncut briar Oct 29, 2020, 5:05 PM

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params hide

sinful kettle Oct 29, 2020, 5:08 PM

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lol yeah. I've seen so many bad practices in many BIS functions.

daring wagon Oct 29, 2020, 5:55 PM

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@sinful kettle This functions is really old. Was created before BIS_fnc_param and params etc.

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@solid marten https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154714

sinful kettle Oct 29, 2020, 6:00 PM

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I'm not talking about this alone. But yeah most of those that I've seen are old

sinful kettle Oct 29, 2020, 10:30 PM

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@solid marten Is it possible to change the suppression so that the unit could also be suppressed by rockets/grenades as well? Right now they only react to bullets.

solid marten Oct 29, 2020, 11:42 PM

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It is possible but it is not easy and will require quite a bit of change around the engine possibly affecting performance. I’m not doing it

daring wagon Oct 30, 2020, 1:37 AM

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I have updated the BIS_fnc_sandstorm ticket with an additional suggestion. Maybe you have time for it while you are at it, KK.
I might have a bug with ctrlSetURL but I am not sure, maybe it's intended.
When just using _button ctrlSetURL "someURL";The tooltip does not show at all.
When setting an URL and a custom tooltip it shows the URL in the first line and the custom tooltip in the second line.

Ideally I'd prefer ctrlSetURL not forcing a tooltip by default and then not even showing it. Maybe as optional parameter, or the option to overwrite the tooltip by using setTooltip after ctrlSetURL.

solid marten Oct 30, 2020, 7:12 AM

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easy to check if this is ctrlSetUrl or not. use url config property to set url instead and check behaviour @daring wagon

daring wagon Oct 30, 2020, 8:48 AM

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Okay, tested. From my observations:
config URL:
Tooltip is visible, custom tooltip is added underneath

ctrlSetURL
Tooltip is not visibile by default but becomes visible if ctrlSetTooltip is used. Custom tooltip is added underneath
@solid marten

solid marten Oct 30, 2020, 8:51 AM

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you mean you defined tooltip in config too?

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I’m not sure what is the problem, both script setters should just set relevant config property with exception that url one checks if url is allowed

daring wagon Oct 30, 2020, 8:54 AM

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No, I just defined URL in config, not tooltip. I understood it would behave the same as using ctrlSetURL

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I will create a repro later today.

solid marten Oct 30, 2020, 8:55 AM

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you confused me. What tooltip is visible in config variant and what custom one is added if you defined no tooltip in config?

daring wagon Oct 30, 2020, 8:56 AM

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Ah ok. So if I use config property "URL" and nothing else. The tooltip displays the link. If I then use ctrlSetTooltip, the new tooltip is added on top of the already existing one.

With ctrlSetTooltip and no config property, the tooltip is not visible. It only becomes visible if I use ctrlSetTooltip. Which then also causes the custom set tooltip to be shown on top of the URL tooltip (which was not visible before)

solid marten Oct 30, 2020, 8:59 AM

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you should see url tooltip when you set url with script or otherwise. does it not show it when you use ctrlseturl?

daring wagon Oct 30, 2020, 8:59 AM

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Nope, doesn't show.

solid marten Oct 30, 2020, 8:59 AM

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if so this is a bug

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if url is defined it should be shown when you mouse over

daring wagon Oct 30, 2020, 9:00 AM

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It does, when defined in config. Not with ctrlSetURL

solid marten Oct 30, 2020, 9:00 AM

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ok will check

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confirmed

solid marten Oct 30, 2020, 9:44 AM

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Fixed in 146861 @daring wagon thanks for reporting

daring wagon Oct 30, 2020, 9:46 AM

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Glad I could help

gray wharf Oct 30, 2020, 9:59 AM

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Given the fixes quickness, I wonder if there are unit tests on commands now :D

desert trench Oct 30, 2020, 10:00 AM

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If you set the mission's name as "" in the description.ext, in local MP the empty string will be empty and you'll think the mission is not showing up.

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does this classify as a bug/undesired behavior?

untold sky Oct 30, 2020, 10:00 AM

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well you got exactly what you wanted.
And as long as the list entry is still there, and works. Sounds fine to me

desert trench Oct 30, 2020, 10:05 AM

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is empty nicknames also allowed?

untold sky Oct 30, 2020, 10:05 AM

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afaik no

desert trench Oct 30, 2020, 10:10 AM

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ok

daring wagon Oct 30, 2020, 11:17 AM

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Is it a known issue that 1 call BIS_fnc_recompile; in 2.01 can crash the game? Happened to me twice now without any mods. I can provide reports and dumps if needed.

sinful kettle Oct 30, 2020, 11:20 AM

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Is it a valid syntax? I always use "name" call BIS_fnc_recompile

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nvm yes it is

solid marten Oct 30, 2020, 12:38 PM

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Is it a known issue that 1 call BIS_fnc_recompile; in 2.01 can crash the game? Happened to me twice now without any mods. I can provide reports and dumps if needed.
@untold sky ^^^

untold sky Oct 30, 2020, 12:54 PM

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@daring wagon with -showScriptErrors yes.

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Fixed a while ago, but dev branch was built just before I fixed that

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to be clear, when its spamming errors in RPT, together with script callstack

daring wagon Oct 30, 2020, 3:05 PM

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ok

sinful kettle Oct 30, 2020, 7:04 PM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154721 can be closed

uncut briar Oct 31, 2020, 1:50 PM

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ticket for Edit Terrain Module doors lock not working for server clients:
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154752

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should be an easy fix.

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also this can be closed: https://feedback.bistudio.com/T126757

untold sky Oct 31, 2020, 3:45 PM

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Thank you dad blobcloseenjoy

fickle root Nov 1, 2020, 4:08 PM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154769 - Suppressors compatibility issues since 2.00

untold sky Nov 1, 2020, 4:41 PM

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I think reyhard is already on that

gray wharf Nov 1, 2020, 4:49 PM

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bumping that one, freshly mentioned in #arma3_scripting
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T123883

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enableWeaponDisassembly fudges the get in action / angle

sterile nova Nov 2, 2020, 8:16 AM

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Yup, I'm on those slots already

untold sky Nov 2, 2020, 9:14 AM

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@gray wharf did someone check that the bug is still actual?

gray wharf Nov 2, 2020, 9:15 AM

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I did yes, can confirm 100%

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back to normal when you re-enable weapon disassembly

untold sky Nov 2, 2020, 10:59 AM

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Well no repro on dev branch, nor internal...
wtf 🙃

fickle root Nov 2, 2020, 11:45 AM

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this is really frustrating and drives a lot of players crazy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6bWaeSN9iM

YouTube

Viss

Arma 3 Bug That Everyone Needs to Know - Headshot Bug - Sinking Int...

Leave Feedback! https://feedback.bistudio.com/T119992
Arma 3 bug that was recently discovered. This bug is from the feature that makes you shrink into the ground in Arma 3. The player shrinks but the hitboxes do not shrink with the player. This feature also causes problems whe...

▶ Play video

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at distance the adversary sinks into the ground, but only visually. hitboxes don't. so when you think you're shooting into his head, you actually are shooting into his chest and if caliber is not high and the guy has armor, you won't kill him

gray wharf Nov 2, 2020, 11:48 AM

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yep, but not a bug - a design decision

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I would agree that an improvement would be to have the hitbox move as well, but…

untold sky Nov 2, 2020, 11:48 AM

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nothing is actually physically moved afaik. its only rendering

fickle root Nov 2, 2020, 11:49 AM

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doesn't matter how it works

untold sky Nov 2, 2020, 11:49 AM

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Does. Not a bug.

fickle root Nov 2, 2020, 11:49 AM

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it's the result that matters

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need to shoot above "visual" head to hit the "real" head (hitbox). so stupid

desert trench Nov 2, 2020, 11:50 AM

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best would be a mission option to disable it if desired 👼

fickle root Nov 2, 2020, 11:50 AM

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why not sinking hitboxes as well

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also if you check the video until the end, you will see that when you have somebody behind a high fence, you can't see him, since he sinks partially into the ground, so is lower than the fence itself

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BUT!

untold sky Nov 2, 2020, 11:51 AM

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why not sinking hitboxes as well
because thats a completely different thing

fickle root Nov 2, 2020, 11:52 AM

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he can see and shoot at you, since from his perspective he's not sinking into the ground

untold sky Nov 2, 2020, 11:52 AM

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I see the problem with it. But won't fix.

fickle root Nov 2, 2020, 11:52 AM

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so it's like cheating from devs. really bad design decision

gray wharf Nov 2, 2020, 11:52 AM

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it's either that or no more sinking into the ground

untold sky Nov 2, 2020, 11:53 AM

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yeah was a bad decision 10+ years ago. and still is. But won't be changed now

gray wharf Nov 2, 2020, 11:53 AM

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maybe an MGS-like "transparency" could be an option - but that would be a big rework.

daring wagon Nov 3, 2020, 12:53 PM

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Can be closed 😉

gray wharf Nov 3, 2020, 12:53 PM

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muh! :<

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could only close 5 of them -.-'

daring wagon Nov 3, 2020, 1:05 PM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T150204 Can be closed, implemented

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T85377 Fixed

gray wharf Nov 3, 2020, 1:06 PM

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can only close the first one :(

daring wagon Nov 3, 2020, 1:09 PM

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Okay, that's it then.

gray wharf Nov 3, 2020, 1:10 PM

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Requesting moar FT pawarrrs from BI!

untold sky Nov 3, 2020, 1:59 PM

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~~send me a link to one that doesnt work~~

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i guess the tickets you cant close are too old? Guess moderator permission was added later on so old tickets dont hav

fickle root Nov 3, 2020, 2:10 PM

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Those he can't close are wishlist (marked in blue)

untold sky Nov 3, 2020, 2:18 PM

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being able to close has nothing to do with priority tho

gray wharf Nov 3, 2020, 2:31 PM

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can't close this one either (not a wishlist)
maybe when it is wishlist or assigned
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T65678

untold sky Nov 3, 2020, 2:33 PM

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its probably just age

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ticket permissions are set when its created

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maybe :u

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I guess

gray wharf Nov 3, 2020, 2:34 PM

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yeah well, if I am "hired" to clean up and I can't, it kind of defeats the purpose doesn't it :p

untold sky Nov 3, 2020, 2:35 PM

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tanking

uncut briar Nov 3, 2020, 2:37 PM

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mega_thonk

daring wagon Nov 3, 2020, 3:43 PM

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I would appreciate it if a dev could look into that. It's an easy fix (really) and would make this attribute control useable. (Incorrect height set for control inside controls group)

https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154820

fickle root Nov 3, 2020, 10:28 PM

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fallen trees and fences were fixed in an appropriate manner that AI can't see and shoot through them, but they still don't have physics when fallen, so one can drive/walk through them and it was a genius decision.
no perf costs and fixes the problem.

so disabling visual model of adversary from sinking into the ground at distance, like it was in OFP/A1 is also a very very good solution that a lot of players would certainly have welcomed and not posing any problems in any of SP/MP PvE/PvP missions.
I think it would be so natural to do exactly this move

untold sky Nov 3, 2020, 10:29 PM

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It is not a solution. I already told you. And i also already told you that won't happen.
And you were also already told that this is not the channel for that

fickle root Nov 3, 2020, 10:30 PM

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well, there is a ticket for that, so this is the appropriate channel

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it's certainly isn't offtopic at all

gray wharf Nov 3, 2020, 10:32 PM

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yeah was a bad decision 10+ years ago. and still is. But won't be changed now

fickle root Nov 3, 2020, 10:34 PM

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nobody asks to face and solve problems related to physics and other possible problems, since "simply" disabling this from being done only for one part of the players but not for the other is a really good compromise.
since both sides would be able to see each other and 0 problems with AI as well. everybody would be happy

gray wharf Nov 3, 2020, 10:34 PM

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whether it is ideal or not (it isn't), whether you provide a solution or not, this isn't going to change anything in this matter

fickle root Nov 3, 2020, 10:34 PM

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(((

gray wharf Nov 3, 2020, 10:35 PM

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accept the "no" on this aspect and carry on other issues - and it doesn't mean that we find the current solution ideal; just that it won't change

fickle root Nov 3, 2020, 10:36 PM

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I'm certainly not a programmer, but I thought it would "simply" have required it not being done/happening, so "simply" disabling this...

untold sky Nov 3, 2020, 10:36 PM

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I am a programmer and i already said no 🙃

fickle root Nov 3, 2020, 10:37 PM

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man, with next title expect me to come and directly check things like this day one and then don't say first there are other more important things to fix and several years later, well it's EOL now, so don't expected it to be fixed now neither...

gray wharf Nov 3, 2020, 10:38 PM

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📎 1604443114963656209952692110666.jpg

fickle root Nov 3, 2020, 10:38 PM

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I regret not having switch from A2 to A3 directly in 2013

untold sky Nov 3, 2020, 10:39 PM

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4 years ago when that ticket was active and we had tons of resources available, yeah maybe. but now its too late (even back then it was said "technical limitations, won't be able to fix),
I told you no multiple times, I've closed the FT ticket, now please stop beating on that, thanks.

fickle root Nov 3, 2020, 10:39 PM

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would have reported a lot of stuff much earlier, when it still was actively worked on A3 by the team

trim acorn Nov 3, 2020, 10:42 PM

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@gray wharf you watch one punch man?

gray wharf Nov 3, 2020, 10:42 PM

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no

trim acorn Nov 3, 2020, 10:43 PM

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Oh okay 🤣

solid marten Nov 4, 2020, 5:15 AM

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I would appreciate it if a dev could look into that. It's an easy fix (really) and would make this attribute control useable. (Incorrect height set for control inside controls group)

https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154820
@daring wagon Could you explain more what is the problem? Treat me like I know nothing about this.

daring wagon Nov 4, 2020, 8:19 AM

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~~Sure. I'll update the ticket later~~
I have updated the ticket with two videos and a bit more details @solid marten

daring wagon Nov 4, 2020, 1:33 PM

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@untold sky Your repro you requested https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154837

daring wagon Nov 4, 2020, 5:31 PM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154841 Seems like the demine waypoint is broken. The condition is missing some ( ) from what I can tell.

sterile nova Nov 4, 2020, 5:53 PM

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doh, I will take care of it

sinful kettle Nov 4, 2020, 6:18 PM

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Annoying bug:
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154844

gray wharf Nov 4, 2020, 6:22 PM

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that's… what include does? and how is it "high priority"?

sinful kettle Nov 4, 2020, 6:23 PM

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No it's not. The preprocessFileLineNumbers command works fine

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how is it "high priority"?
No proper error reporting.

raven hollow Nov 4, 2020, 6:24 PM

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And this is highPrio because of?

gray wharf Nov 4, 2020, 6:25 PM

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not "high priority"
bugging, annoying yes

CTDs are high priority

raven hollow Nov 4, 2020, 6:25 PM

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??

sinful kettle Nov 4, 2020, 6:25 PM

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ok

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It's very easy to fix tho

raven hollow Nov 4, 2020, 6:26 PM

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How do you know that?

sinful kettle Nov 4, 2020, 6:27 PM

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It's very easy to fix tho
I mean for the devs. Simple, all they have to do is put two #LINE 1s (one at the start of #include and one at the end of it). Similar to preprocessFileLineNumbers

untold sky Nov 4, 2020, 6:45 PM

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quite sure I already had my own ticket with that line number issue.
We fixed it in ACE/CBA by moving where the include is done. Either before or after block comment don't remember where anymore

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but I would even call that low priority

desert trench Nov 4, 2020, 6:56 PM

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is there an EH/way to detect when VON gets activated (and log who spoke)?

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if not, meaningful to make a FT request for it?

untold sky Nov 4, 2020, 6:57 PM

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no

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dunno how easy..... I guess it displays the name in bottom left right?

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then yes, should be easy enough to be done. meaning FT yeah

solid marten Nov 4, 2020, 8:11 PM

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what if include file contains more code and it errors there?

untold sky Nov 4, 2020, 8:16 PM

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include file drops #line at start of it.
We just need to drop a #line of the parent file, after exiting the include.. I think

tulip shard Nov 4, 2020, 8:32 PM

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surely it is technically correct behaviour that cfgfunctions (preprocessFile) doesnt correctly count lines. otherwise it would use preprocessFileLineNumbers 🤔

untold sky Nov 4, 2020, 8:32 PM

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correct

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CfgFunctions was never supposed to have working line numbers, and thats not engines fault

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We will fix that with a thing I'm working on

fallen elk Nov 5, 2020, 8:26 PM

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setSliderSpeed command causes the slider page step to become extremely small - https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154871

daring wagon Nov 6, 2020, 9:11 AM

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Is it intended that savingEnabled returns true even if the attribute configFile >> "Cfg3DEN" >> "Mission" >> "Scenario" >> "AttributeCategories" >> "States" >> "Attributes" >> "Saving"in Eden Editor is set to false?

untold sky Nov 6, 2020, 9:19 AM

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dont think so

daring wagon Nov 6, 2020, 9:57 AM

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~~I guess I should make ticket?~~
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154879

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Seems also be the case with saving = 0 in description.ext.

gray wharf Nov 6, 2020, 10:13 AM

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so it seems to only check about enableSaving impact

daring wagon Nov 6, 2020, 10:13 AM

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yes

unborn acorn Nov 6, 2020, 10:18 AM

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Fix already in dev branch
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154021
Close ticket, please

gray wharf Nov 6, 2020, 10:22 AM

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closed

daring wagon Nov 6, 2020, 10:31 AM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154878 @gray wharf Spam

gray wharf Nov 6, 2020, 10:32 AM

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@untold sky*
I can't delete 😬

untold sky Nov 6, 2020, 10:33 AM

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you delete tickets by editing them, and removing the "view" permission for normal users

gray wharf Nov 6, 2020, 10:33 AM

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let's see

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nope, no can do

untold sky Nov 6, 2020, 10:34 AM

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now you can

gray wharf Nov 6, 2020, 10:36 AM

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gone!

daring wagon Nov 6, 2020, 10:41 AM

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Is there a quick way to unsubscribe from mutiple tickets, or do I have to unsubscribe one by one?

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T84356 can be closed

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T84400 can be closed (fixed)

gray wharf Nov 6, 2020, 10:50 AM

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done

daring wagon Nov 6, 2020, 10:50 AM

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You were able to close them?

gray wharf Nov 6, 2020, 10:56 AM

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I iz powerfull nao

restive bone Nov 6, 2020, 11:01 AM

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Lou is the fancy ticket man now heh_r

gray wharf Nov 6, 2020, 11:02 AM

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before me were ticket men, but no that fancy ones 😎

restive bone Nov 6, 2020, 11:02 AM

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FoxBlepDerp

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Oh wait now I understand it I think

gray wharf Nov 6, 2020, 11:03 AM

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take your time

restive bone Nov 6, 2020, 11:04 AM

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Yeah I'm a bit slow sometimes ameowderpy

gray wharf Nov 6, 2020, 11:05 AM

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you understand quickly! you only have to think about it a lot 😄

daring wagon Nov 6, 2020, 11:06 AM

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I iz powerfull nao
@gray wharf Yeah, but why are all the ticket I reported are not closed yet?

gray wharf Nov 6, 2020, 11:06 AM

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oh sh—

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okaaay, ok - on it now :p

daring wagon Nov 6, 2020, 11:09 AM

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Good boy 😄

gray wharf Nov 6, 2020, 11:10 AM

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muh! :<

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closing / closing / closing / closing / …

daring wagon Nov 6, 2020, 11:10 AM

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Once you are done, let me know I send you more

gray wharf Nov 6, 2020, 11:11 AM

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not sure I will then! 😄

restive bone Nov 6, 2020, 11:11 AM

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Maybe I'll actually be able to see older tickets when some newer ones have been deleted heh

daring wagon Nov 6, 2020, 11:12 AM

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I got my Dashboard set up to watch you. So I will know anyway

gray wharf Nov 6, 2020, 11:12 AM

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I'll leave one open then! thanks for letting me know 👍

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done 😉

unborn acorn Nov 6, 2020, 11:18 AM

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Maybe I'm using the command incorrectly on video in this ticket?
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154810
Or is it a bug?

gray wharf Nov 6, 2020, 11:20 AM

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no no, at the very least a command should always have the same effect, not a random one like here - bug!

daring wagon Nov 6, 2020, 11:20 AM

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gray wharf Nov 6, 2020, 11:20 AM

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I saw the wrong chan' R3vo 👀

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nao gib heart 😁

sterile nova Nov 6, 2020, 11:21 AM

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@unborn acorn are you sure it's not just video settings? Perhaps you have reached maximum number of dynamic lights

gray wharf Nov 6, 2020, 11:21 AM

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oh! didn't know they were impacted by the dynamic lights setting. also, isn't it distance-based as well?

unborn acorn Nov 6, 2020, 11:22 AM

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@sterile nova it was new mission with 7 AI-mens and me. Dynamic lights i have on Ultra

sterile nova Nov 6, 2020, 11:23 AM

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they dependent on distance, strength & video settings

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smaller/low power lights disappear faster

unborn acorn Nov 6, 2020, 11:24 AM

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All settings ultra

sterile nova Nov 6, 2020, 11:24 AM

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try to move closer to those AI which appear to be without light

gray wharf Nov 6, 2020, 11:25 AM

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can reproduce in VR

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pretty violently, actually

📎 unknown.png

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(moving closer is not showing lights - even with only one on-screen unit)

sterile nova Nov 6, 2020, 11:27 AM

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so its some bug then it seems

gray wharf Nov 6, 2020, 11:28 AM

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yep
re-executing "forceOn" is working as well (I guess because of "chances" to get them on)

same in console or spawned btw

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any other repro needed?

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[] spawn {
  {_x enableGunLights "forceOn"; sleep 1 } forEach (units group player);
};
``` turned everyone's lights on immediately 🤨

daring wagon Nov 6, 2020, 11:30 AM

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I can reproduce

sterile nova Nov 6, 2020, 11:30 AM

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ah

daring wagon Nov 6, 2020, 11:30 AM

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However, if I get closer to the unit, the lights turn on

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With how many units have you tested it lou?

gray wharf Nov 6, 2020, 11:31 AM

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a group of 8, so 7 AI

daring wagon Nov 6, 2020, 11:32 AM

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Okay

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With 8 it works as expected for me

gray wharf Nov 6, 2020, 11:32 AM

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also, it's a group setting if used on the leader - player enableGunLights "forceOn" results in everyone (trying to) turn their lights on

unborn acorn Nov 6, 2020, 11:32 AM

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~~Please note that, this command does not turn on the player's flashlight~~

sterile nova Nov 6, 2020, 11:33 AM

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it's mentioned here it's for AI only https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/enableGunLights

daring wagon Nov 6, 2020, 11:33 AM

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Okay, nevermind. Now it doesn't work for me as well with 9 units

gray wharf Nov 6, 2020, 11:34 AM

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~~but if I don't use the leader as argument, it does not work? 🤔~~

daring wagon Nov 6, 2020, 11:34 AM

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it did for me

gray wharf Nov 6, 2020, 11:34 AM

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nvm, it works

daring wagon Nov 6, 2020, 12:33 PM

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@gray wharf These are the last ones for now 🙂

gray wharf Nov 6, 2020, 12:36 PM

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about the 85274 (mines), (how) was it solved?

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@daring wagon

daring wagon Nov 6, 2020, 12:39 PM

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It wasn't, there is a solution in the ticket though. I don't think at this stage inheritance things will be fixed which go so deep

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Although a command allExplosiveswould be nice similar to allMines

gray wharf Nov 6, 2020, 12:40 PM

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true! make a Feature Request ticket

daring wagon Nov 6, 2020, 12:40 PM

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Leave that ticket open then. I might use some of the infos there

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Although it's so old I can't remember most of it 😄

gray wharf Nov 6, 2020, 12:41 PM

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woops, just when I closed it as won't fix xD

daring wagon Nov 6, 2020, 12:41 PM

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Sorry, my bad

gray wharf Nov 6, 2020, 12:41 PM

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one fresh FR ticket might be preferable? it would stand out

daring wagon Nov 6, 2020, 12:41 PM

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that's the plan

gray wharf Nov 6, 2020, 12:42 PM

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(because you know, 🇫🇷)

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anyway, all closed!

daring wagon Nov 6, 2020, 12:43 PM

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Awesome.

gray wharf Nov 6, 2020, 2:07 PM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T71017
to be closed?

gray wharf Nov 6, 2020, 2:33 PM

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…https://feedback.bistudio.com/T120680 too?

gray wharf Nov 6, 2020, 2:54 PM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T78223 language @formal dome 👀 😄

formal dome Nov 6, 2020, 3:26 PM

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this took me like 20 minutes to find the source from

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like literally, discord did ping me but did not showed where

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(muted this channel)
😱

daring wagon Nov 6, 2020, 5:54 PM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154837 I have added a short video demonstrating the issue with CT_TREE. I might be able to provide that GUI if neccessary (dedmen)

untold sky Nov 6, 2020, 6:38 PM

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I just need a repro

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just a script I can plug in debug console is enough

sinful kettle Nov 6, 2020, 7:07 PM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154837
Damn I noticed this yesterday. I was forced to create a completely new "tree" using controlsGroups! 😣

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I had like 10000 elements in it (config viewer), so it was getting very very slow (~15 FPS when scrolled to the bottom)

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@untold sky

_d = findDisplay 46 createDisplay "RscDisplayEmpty";
_c = _d ctrlCreate ["RscTree", -1];
ctrlSetFocus _c;
for "_i" from 0 to 10000 do {
  _c tvAdd [[], str _i];
}

untold sky Nov 6, 2020, 7:12 PM

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no ping reee

sinful kettle Nov 6, 2020, 7:12 PM

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For the repro

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Oh R3vo already gave you one. Sorry

untold sky Nov 6, 2020, 7:20 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/anime-mad-chibi-gif-11433857

Tenor

sinful kettle Nov 6, 2020, 7:23 PM

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You seem to have become so fond of these! 🤣

untold sky Nov 6, 2020, 7:25 PM

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hard to find stuff that fits

sinful kettle Nov 6, 2020, 8:49 PM

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KK, can you do a mass replace in the support module functions and change:

getVariable format ["BIS_SUPP_limit_%1", _type]
``` to 
```sqf
getVariable [format ["BIS_SUPP_limit_%1", _type], 0]

It throws errors if those vars are undefined.
#arma3_scripting message

I can make a ticket if you're fine with it

solid marten Nov 7, 2020, 8:30 AM

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@sinful kettle yes please, then tag me with it

solid marten Nov 7, 2020, 9:24 AM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154837 I have added a short video demonstrating the issue with CT_TREE. I might be able to provide that GUI if neccessary (dedmen)
@daring wagon This has nothing to do with ct_tree, this happens to any multi line control with too many lines, they are still rendering even if not visible. No provision for that was added when classes were written. It is a huge job to rewrite all those and even bigger job to test that new implementation is backward compatible. There are certainly other matters more important to look at.

daring wagon Nov 7, 2020, 9:25 AM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T145276 There a a few spam comments there it seems.

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@solid marten I guessed that it has to to with rendering stuff which is not visible. I just added CT_TREE because it's a good way to repro it. I created the ticket because Dedmen asked me to do so.

solid marten Nov 7, 2020, 9:31 AM

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Why would you post about dayz ticket? they have own moderators

sinful kettle Nov 7, 2020, 1:39 PM

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@solid marten https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154904

untold sky Nov 7, 2020, 2:57 PM

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"they have own moderators" not really, usually dwarden or me take care of these bots.
And he posts here because Lou can take care of it and Lou reads here, Lou is currently the only real "Moderator" on FT. The others are just QA who do it on the side when they happen to see it.

solid marten Nov 7, 2020, 3:28 PM

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yes they do

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thanks Leopard

desert trench Nov 7, 2020, 4:18 PM

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can someone with markman DLC source look for the script with STR_A3_Revive_MSG_INCAPACITATED_BY

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it has a faulty "name _unit" check

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it can show "any"

untold sky Nov 7, 2020, 4:20 PM

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0 hits for "STR_A3_Revive_MSG_INCAPACITATED_BY" in any marksman or basegame scripts

desert trench Nov 7, 2020, 5:02 PM

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p:\a3\language_f_mp_mark\stringtable.xml

401       <Key ID="STR_A3_Revive_Status_Incapacitated">
402         <Original>INCAPACITATED</Original>
411         <English>INCAPACITATED</English>
588       <Key ID="STR_A3_Revive_MSG_INCAPACITATED">
589         <Original>%1 was incapacitated</Original>
598         <English>%1 was incapacitated</English>
605       <Key ID="STR_A3_Revive_MSG_INCAPACITATED_BY">
606         <Original>%1 was incapacitated by %2</Original>
615         <English>%1 was incapacitated by %2</English>
622       <Key ID="STR_A3_Revive_MSG_INCAPACITATED_BY_FF">
623         <Original>%1 was incapacitated by %2 (friendly fire)</Original>
632         <English>%1 was incapacitated by %2 (friendly fire)</English>```

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this is where the strings are defined

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and it happens when you get killed using the A3 revive system

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but the script/fsm seems not available in PBOs

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you get the <no unit> output which is when name _unit is applied on dead

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and logged to rpt

WARNING: Function 'name' - 1d3c1ccd280# 128279: if_soldier.p3d REMOTE has no unit

network id 5:5

person XXX

dead

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Cannot create object D:DDDD with type[AISubgroup], param[subgroup], NMT code[107]:
Cannot create object D:DDDD with type[AIUnit], param[unit], NMT code[112]:

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any info available on these?

solid marten Nov 7, 2020, 5:56 PM

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and logged to rpt
WARNING: Function 'name' - 1d3c1ccd280# 128279: if_soldier.p3d REMOTE has no unit

network id 5:5

person XXX

dead
@desert trench this should not be happening any more, what exe version?

desert trench Nov 7, 2020, 6:00 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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MP-DS env

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probably only for remote units, but not 100%

untold sky Nov 7, 2020, 6:06 PM

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Quite sure the name fix is not in 2.00, it was in first prof changelog, which only listed differences to stable

solid marten Nov 7, 2020, 8:01 PM

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This is why I asked. Bugs in stable could be already fixed in dev or profiling

desert trench Nov 8, 2020, 5:01 AM

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mission.sqm/Mission/Entities/ItemDD/Entities/ItemDD.type: Unknown enum value Artillery
mission.sqm/Mission/Entities/ItemDD/Entities/ItemDD.type: Unknown enum value Demine
mission.sqm/Mission/Entities/ItemDD/Entities/ItemDD.type: Unknown enum value SeekAndDestroy
mission.sqm/Mission/Entities/ItemDD/Entities/ItemDD.type: Unknown enum value TransportUnload

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anyone knows why these happen even when built with Eden? or what it actually means

desert trench Nov 8, 2020, 5:50 AM

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Error in expression <7500*(power interpolate[0.1,1,0.4,1])>
Error position: <power interpolate[0.1,1,0.4,1])>
Error Undefined variable in expression: power

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dont get how this errors out if the native definition also uses "power"

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class CfgLights
{
    class SmallFireLight
    {
        brightness = 376;//10;
        intensity = "7500*(power interpolate[0.1,1,0.4,1])";//"3500*(power interpolate[0.1,1,0.4,1])";
    };```

gray wharf Nov 8, 2020, 9:20 AM

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a missing include? thought maybe #arma3_config

sterile nova Nov 8, 2020, 9:31 AM

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@desert trench it all depends where do you use such effect I guess

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_Particle_Effects:_Config_Parameters no idea if such page exist for light sources

Arma 3 Particle Effects: Config Parameters

desert trench Nov 8, 2020, 9:40 AM

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its used by the flamethrower ammo

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class LIB_Impact_Flame
{
    class Light1
    {
        simulation = "light";
        type = "SmallFireLight";
        position[] = {0,0,0};
        intensity = 1;
        interval = 1;
        lifeTime = 30;
    };
with
explosionEffects = "LIB_Impact_Flame";

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natively its used Land_Campfire_F and Land_MetalBarrel_empty_F

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guess will try intensity or damage instead

sterile nova Nov 8, 2020, 9:52 AM

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yeah, power is exclusive property to "fire" simulation (like fireplace)

#define EVAR_SET_FIRE(XX) \
  XX(burning) \
  XX(power)```

distant belfry Nov 8, 2020, 1:47 PM

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Any update on when VON will be fixed? The only way you can hear players is by changing effects.

alpine tulip Nov 8, 2020, 1:47 PM

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#perf_prof_branch

untold sky Nov 8, 2020, 1:47 PM

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it was already fixed weeks ago

distant belfry Nov 8, 2020, 1:49 PM

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Is it only for the perf branch for now, or will it eventually be added to the main platform?

untold sky Nov 8, 2020, 1:49 PM

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It will be in the next update

distant belfry Nov 8, 2020, 1:50 PM

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cool thanks

gray wharf Nov 8, 2020, 2:20 PM

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unfortunately no hotfix :(

sinful kettle Nov 8, 2020, 10:38 PM

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wait there won't be any hotfixes before 2.02?

ornate marlin Nov 8, 2020, 11:03 PM

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doesn't look like it

untold sky Nov 9, 2020, 7:50 AM

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not planned no

daring wagon Nov 12, 2020, 4:44 PM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T83687 Can be closed. Thanks for that command =)

and thanks for the quick fix https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154841, can be closed as well.

gray wharf Nov 12, 2020, 4:53 PM

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*boop* done

daring wagon Nov 12, 2020, 4:54 PM

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Thanks

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This one can be closed as well. Most of the stuff was cleared up, fixed https://feedback.bistudio.com/T85378 and the remaining issue is probably mentioned in a separate ticket (which I can't find right now)

sterile nova Nov 12, 2020, 5:08 PM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T71690 can someone close this one as invalid? Seems like I don't have permissions for that 🤣

gray wharf Nov 12, 2020, 5:14 PM

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done 😬

gray wharf Nov 13, 2020, 11:40 AM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T85927 can be closed?

daring wagon Nov 13, 2020, 12:03 PM

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Yes

gray wharf Nov 14, 2020, 2:47 PM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T150882 "funny", satchel charges still have some impact on unit reveal I think

fickle root Nov 14, 2020, 3:35 PM

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@gray wharf it's like that since OFP (2001) )))

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soon 20 years )

gray wharf Nov 14, 2020, 3:39 PM

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yeah but I remember a ticket that fixed that (in A2?) already 😂

spare vine Nov 14, 2020, 3:55 PM

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Technically makes sense, since AI is chasing the unit who "fired" the explosive, not the explosive itself. So in short; the AI should go into search mode when something explodes without knowing who fired it.

fickle root Nov 14, 2020, 4:28 PM

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it never was fixed

gray wharf Nov 14, 2020, 5:35 PM

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in search mode sure, I agree
but not doing so if the unit is behind cover, not so much 😁

desert trench Nov 14, 2020, 5:58 PM

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it was fixed indeed at some point

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probably was forgotten to be merged to future titles

desert trench Nov 14, 2020, 6:20 PM

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Cannot create object DDD:DDD with type[AISubgroup], param[subgroup], NMT code[107]:
Cannot create object DDD:DDD with type[AIUnit], param[unit], NMT code[112]:

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getting quite a spam of these these days - possible to get info what they are about please?

desert trench Nov 15, 2020, 7:00 AM

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Disengage
oukej: Cancels out Engage at will (makes the AI stay in formation and not pursue new targets (the one currently being engaged is not affected)). Subj. to merge with Return to formation.
from https://feedback.bistudio.com/T85378#1125881

worth making a FT request on this? it would improve and simplify AI commanding usability

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Commanding menu should only show weapons and equipment nearby instead of showing all weapons on the map.
@daring wagon is there a separate FT task for this?

daring wagon Nov 15, 2020, 8:56 AM

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I was sure there is one, otherwise I make a new one.

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@desert trench https://feedback.bistudio.com/T75458

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T119623

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T118417

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T73767

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IMHO there should be a radius set as limit for the rearm actions and the distance should be displayed next to the entry and they should be sorted (closest first9

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T83895 (This one can be closed (fixed))

daring wagon Nov 16, 2020, 8:27 AM

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Can be closed
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154364

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154207

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154225

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154114

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T153805

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T153399 spam @gray wharf

gray wharf Nov 16, 2020, 8:37 AM

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muh

daring wagon Nov 16, 2020, 8:37 AM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T153396

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spam

gray wharf Nov 16, 2020, 8:41 AM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/w/url_app_development_in_singapore/
🤣

daring wagon Nov 16, 2020, 8:42 AM

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😄

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T151119 @untold sky Was that related to the new topography command you added? If so, can this be closed?

gray wharf Nov 16, 2020, 8:44 AM

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(all done but that one ^)

untold sky Nov 16, 2020, 9:01 AM

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that was fixed

gray wharf Nov 16, 2020, 9:08 AM

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closed then!

fickle root Nov 17, 2020, 1:52 PM

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reyhard, I checked the current DEV and Structures (Livonia) -> Village - Wooden House (Small, v3) Land_House_1W03_F is still not fixed
despite changelog of 2.00 saying it was all fixed
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/108187245529268224/710908155986706442/arma3diag_x64_2020-05-15_19-20-49-894.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/108187245529268224/710908105294086174/arma3diag_x64_2020-05-15_19-20-58-701.png

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still not assigned to anybody:
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T148411 - List of vehicles with commander turret not returned back by AI to vehicle's direction, when player switches to another seat
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154433 - Tank AI commander with 0 ammo, makes player as gunner reloading 7.62 mm coaxial machinegun after each shot, if/after enemy AI get spotted
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154445 - BTR-K Kamysh has no possibility for player as commander to cycle through different armament types (Ctrl+F), when turned out, unlike AFV-4 Gorgon with same turret/armament
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154446 - Left Mouse Button and Ctrl+LMB don't work to manually fire or order the AI gunner to fire from 120/125 mm cannon, when player is turned out as commander (using Arma 3 Apex keyboard preset) in T-100 Varsuk and Rhino MGS (UP)
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T137283#2019162 - possible to see through deployed by Strider smoke when looking through Strider's windows

daring wagon Nov 18, 2020, 10:20 AM

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Not sure if it's helpful or not but I updated both configs to fix all the config errors + some other improvements
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T139827 (RscTestControlTypes)
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154650 (RscTestControlStyls)

gray wharf Nov 18, 2020, 10:22 AM

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yes please ^

gray wharf Nov 18, 2020, 11:43 AM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T155096
"EntityCreated" mission EH request! 🙂

untold sky Nov 18, 2020, 11:47 AM

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i thought that was already a thing

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it might fire ALOT though. If you also count bullets (which are entities)

gray wharf Nov 18, 2020, 11:50 AM

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yeah… well is it a perf issue, and if so, what about limiting it to create* commands? objects, humans, animals, not particles/particleSources/bullets?

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(PS, I see it a lot recently, but it's a___lot ^^ "alot" is not a word)

untold sky Nov 18, 2020, 11:51 AM

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you can build it yourself via config init events

gray wharf Nov 18, 2020, 11:51 AM

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grrr, not script-wise!

untold sky Nov 18, 2020, 11:52 AM

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you probably want a PostInit event then, because pre/init some things like setobjectTexture might not work yet

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KK recently did stuff in that area, he'll know where to do it

gray wharf Nov 18, 2020, 11:56 AM

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go KK!
btw: can https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154215 be closed?

untold sky Nov 18, 2020, 12:19 PM

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I just move things to Feedback state, while they are dev-branch or not released yet

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because you want feedback, maybe people have issues, or it doesn't work as desired

fickle root Nov 18, 2020, 4:02 PM

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invisible walls and glass, while on finished Industrial Shed everything is fine (at the end of the video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q7qpGbNn8U

YouTube

Groove_C ArmA

arma3diag x64 2020 11 18 16 27 24 808

▶ Play video

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one day i will finish this in form of a ticket

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already half of objects/buildings checked

gray wharf Nov 18, 2020, 4:07 PM

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…I remember that script 😄

fickle root Nov 18, 2020, 4:08 PM

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thx again for it - helps a lot

gray wharf Nov 18, 2020, 4:08 PM

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don't hesitate - also, I wonder if it collides with everything, e.g if sometimes grenades wouldn't pass while bullets would 🤔

fickle root Nov 18, 2020, 4:09 PM

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bullets pass - yes, while grenades not

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there is also a real problem for a lot of buildings, where for some of them grenades simply fly through glass of windows (without breaking it) and for other buildings, so the grenade can fly through a window, you need to break the glass by firing on it first, only then you can throw a grenade through it

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so it's inconsistency - should be same for all buildings with windows that have glass, simply fly though glass or one needs to break glass first and not 50/50, depending on building
it's simply impossible to remember how it works for each single building and thus you reveal your position/presence or even die, if grenade falls under your feet, because it couldn't pass through the glass

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it would be much much easier to remember on of both behaviors, if only one of them would have been applied to all buildings with windows with glass

daring wagon Nov 19, 2020, 1:45 PM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154395 Fixed

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Seems like menuSetURL is not working.

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This works

// Create main folder 
disableSerialization; 
private _ctrlMenuStrip = findDisplay 313 displayCtrl 120; 
private _indexMain = _ctrlMenuStrip menuAdd [[], "URL Test"]; 

private _indexURL = _ctrlMenuStrip menuAdd [[_indexMain],"URL"];

This doesn't add the second entry at all

// Create main folder 
disableSerialization; 
private _ctrlMenuStrip = findDisplay 313 displayCtrl 120; 
private _indexMain = _ctrlMenuStrip menuAdd [[], "URL Test"]; 
  
private _indexURL = _ctrlMenuStrip menuAdd [[_indexMain],"URL"];

_ctrlMenuStrip menuSetURL [[_indexMain,_indexURL],"https://community.bistudio.com/"];

gray wharf Nov 19, 2020, 1:47 PM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154395 Fixed
Closed

daring wagon Nov 19, 2020, 1:49 PM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T140183 this can be closed as duplicate of https://feedback.bistudio.com/T140973

gray wharf Nov 19, 2020, 1:50 PM

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done

solid marten Nov 19, 2020, 2:04 PM

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@daring wagon and if you try setting "https://arma3.com/" ?

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Also when you say doesn’t add second entry, what do you mean the code is identical to the one above except extra menuseturl

sinful kettle Nov 19, 2020, 3:02 PM

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~~I noticed that the width of a controlsGroup's VScroll impacts the scroll speed.~~
~~Is it the intended behavior, or is it a bug?~~
nvm, my bad

daring wagon Nov 19, 2020, 4:13 PM

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@daring wagon and if you try setting "https://arma3.com/" ?
@solid marten Same result

Also when you say doesn’t add second entry, what do you mean the code is identical to the one above except extra menuseturl
Forget about that. After a fresh restart of arma, both codes add the entry. Just URL does not work.

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T85180 (Can be closed. There are many other tickets with more details about this issue)

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T120210 (Maybe reyhard can take a look at this if he has some time)

gray wharf Nov 19, 2020, 4:25 PM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T85180 (Can be closed. There are many other tickets with more details about this issue)
done

shadow beacon Nov 19, 2020, 4:32 PM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T120210 (Maybe reyhard can take a look at this if he has some time)
@daring wagon I think you'll find that one's not an easy fix because it's by nature of how the game engine renders the viewPilot LOD on top of everything outside the model. You get the same sort of issue with attachTo'd objects

daring wagon Nov 19, 2020, 4:34 PM

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🤷‍♀️ No clue how it works or how much work it is, I can just forward it.

solid marten Nov 20, 2020, 5:28 AM

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@daring wagon could you make a ticket with menuSetUrl not working repro please

sterile nova Nov 20, 2020, 7:14 AM

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Yeah, as da12thMonkey mentioned, bullet rendering is not really fixable via some model tweaks - some engine solution would be needed

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as far as I know, BXBX "fixed" at some point in A3 rendering of bullets on infantry weapons

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and that fix involved rendering of bullets behind the weapon - previously they would be rendered as a top layer

daring wagon Nov 20, 2020, 8:56 AM

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Thanks for the explaination reyhard. 🙂

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T120210 Can be closed (won't fix)

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@solid marten Here is the ticket. I tried again this morning and had again the issue that the entry would not be create if menuSetURL is used. https://feedback.bistudio.com/T155161

untold sky Nov 20, 2020, 12:21 PM

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R3vo I found similar performance issue to your issue in edit control.
I fixed edit control now so I'm sure I can do the same for your list stuff.
I got edit box performance from 180->24 fps to 180->150

daring wagon Nov 20, 2020, 12:27 PM

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sweet. No more game freeze if one opens BIS_fnc_arsenal in the functions viewer 😄

untold sky Nov 20, 2020, 12:28 PM

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notlikemeow I didn't test vertical multiline rendering

daring wagon Nov 20, 2020, 12:28 PM

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😄

untold sky Nov 20, 2020, 12:30 PM

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its very laggy notlikemeow
fix fix fix ahhh
but yeah freeze is fixed, and selection behaviour should also be smoother. But rendering on that one I forgot

daring wagon Nov 20, 2020, 12:35 PM

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I am sure you can fix that one as well 🙂

untold sky Nov 20, 2020, 12:35 PM

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Okey I found it, I'll fix that too. Probably the exact same thing as your issue thingy.

restive bone Nov 20, 2020, 12:35 PM

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untold sky Okey I found it, I'll fix that too. Probably the exact same thing as your issue ...

yayautism Good guy Dedmen fixing all the stuffs

daring wagon Nov 20, 2020, 12:36 PM

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Let me know when the fixes are live on perf branch. Then I will test all my GUIs and how they perform

untold sky Nov 20, 2020, 12:37 PM

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next build, monday or tuesday. But not with your issue fix yet. I'll do that only next week

daring wagon Nov 20, 2020, 12:37 PM

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That's fine. It has been like that for 7 years. I can wait a few more weeks 😄

untold sky Nov 20, 2020, 12:38 PM

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Hm, Multiline Edit should have check for that, but apparently its not working right

gray wharf Nov 20, 2020, 12:42 PM

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daring wagon https://feedback.bistudio.com/T120210 Can be closed (won't fix)

closed

untold sky Nov 20, 2020, 12:45 PM

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I like the color balance of that reply.
the orange and blue and stuff

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T155172 anyone know if this was reported before? I can't imagine this going unnoticed

gray wharf Nov 20, 2020, 12:51 PM

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he must have the steps activated?

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"video down below" → no video

restive bone Nov 20, 2020, 12:53 PM

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click the image @gray wharf

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/file/data/7eluiqilgsa4afkpnnqw/PHID-FILE-phpirosvbgyoqx3dhgdd/GOK1WjPTc5.gif

gray wharf Nov 20, 2020, 12:54 PM

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ah indeed 😄

restive bone Nov 20, 2020, 12:54 PM

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But yeah I can remember having that happen before when I was dragging objects around

gray wharf Nov 20, 2020, 12:54 PM

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untold sky https://feedback.bistudio.com/T155172 anyone know if this was reported before? I...

it exists yeah

untold sky Nov 20, 2020, 1:00 PM

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Ah I found the thing with vertical text R3vo...
They have a check for it.. but the height per line uses ui coordinates height, and the total height limit uses display scaled height
118 height fits 47 lines. so that means each line is 2.5 high,
but it thinks every line is only 0.03 high 🤣

daring wagon Nov 20, 2020, 1:05 PM

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😄

untold sky Nov 20, 2020, 1:06 PM

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AH. I see the problem.
The text control doesn't know that its in a scrollbar, and thinks it has its full height

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Its resolution is 2444x72089 pixels... oof

gray wharf Nov 20, 2020, 1:07 PM

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Oo

daring wagon Nov 20, 2020, 1:08 PM

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WTH

untold sky Nov 20, 2020, 1:10 PM

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Very easy mistake to make.. But I think tons of other controls will also suffer from this

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And I assume same issue for tree/listbox/combobox and others.

gray wharf Nov 20, 2020, 1:12 PM

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sooo perf++ 👀 😍

daring wagon Nov 20, 2020, 1:15 PM

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Basically, we can now load the full configFile in a tree view with addon icons and have an engine driven instant search.

untold sky Nov 20, 2020, 1:16 PM

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tadaa..
it thinks its height is 117.8, while its being rendered in a scroll container who's height is only 1.5

restive bone Nov 20, 2020, 1:16 PM

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untold sky AH. I see the problem. The text control doesn't know that its in a scrollbar, an...

I dont have a clue what any of that means but it sounds bad heh

daring wagon Nov 20, 2020, 1:24 PM

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untold sky https://feedback.bistudio.com/T155172 anyone know if this was reported before? I...

I just tested it and I don't remember that this has always been happening

gray wharf Nov 20, 2020, 1:33 PM

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always afaik

daring wagon Nov 20, 2020, 1:33 PM

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ok

untold sky Nov 20, 2020, 2:24 PM

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Okey thanks R3vo, function viewer fixed too. Please don't give me more now, I need to get back to fixing actual bugs instead of performance stuff

gray wharf Nov 20, 2020, 2:28 PM

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CTD > bugs ←→ perfs I assume 🙃

untold sky Nov 20, 2020, 2:29 PM

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problem is, perf is more fun than bugs

gray wharf Nov 20, 2020, 2:30 PM

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guilty, that's my kink as well

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(I love refactoring, too)

daring wagon Nov 20, 2020, 2:31 PM

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untold sky Okey thanks R3vo, function viewer fixed too. Please don't give me more now, I ne...

I'll try my best. Thanks for the fixes 🙂

restive bone Nov 20, 2020, 2:32 PM

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meowthis Thank you Dedmen

sleek scaffold Nov 20, 2020, 8:00 PM

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Do performance! It is more fun and more noticeable... bugs we are used too... bad perf. we will never get used to... just accept it 😬

untold sky Nov 20, 2020, 8:00 PM

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The performance isn't that noticable for most the players, except some few specific things.

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that said, the bugs also aren't.

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And fun is bad, fun makes me not wanna stop and work too much overtime :/

gray wharf Nov 20, 2020, 8:05 PM

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get paid for it!

sleek scaffold Nov 20, 2020, 8:13 PM

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"Many developers on Cyberpunk 2077 have been working overtime hours for months if not years now. But this call for six-day work weeks, "mandatory" crunch time."

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Don't let those devs get all the crunch time! 🤣

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Besides, you were the star on the last SITREP, those are big shoes to fill 👏 🤞 blobdoggoshruggoogly

daring wagon Nov 21, 2020, 12:28 AM

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@solid marten If I use an incorrect key combination with menuSetShortcut, it adds UNXPECTED_KEY_ID (missing an E) as shortcut text. I am not sure if that typo comes from the command or the menu strip control.

gray wharf Nov 21, 2020, 2:04 AM

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finally, I identified the UPnP issue:
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T155202
UPnP checkbox having no impact when hosting from Eden Editor

daring wagon Nov 21, 2020, 10:29 AM

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Would it be possible to add an Eden Event Handler (config and scripting command) which only triggers when Eden Editor is started? (From Start Menu, Multiplayer lobby)

solid marten Nov 21, 2020, 11:12 AM

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@daring wagon Thanks will have a look

desert trench Nov 21, 2020, 4:14 PM

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ThingX 2768fe16b00# 282271: dummyweapon.p3d was falling under terrain! Position corrected to ground [1698.88, 7.95, 1356.66]. Disable simulation to keep object under terrain.

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we are getting this spammed in out rpt but my team says its not from IFA3. is this coming from A3 data/system itself?

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Ref to nonnetwork object 284972: <no shape>
that one with <no shape> i also cant remember seeing in the past

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Duplicate weapon Throw detected for SoldierClassName
Duplicate weapon Put detected for SoldierClassName
this one I also never could figure out what its about

untold sky Nov 21, 2020, 4:37 PM

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yes arma

sinful kettle Nov 21, 2020, 4:53 PM

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arna
ooh that's a hot name!

silent bloom Nov 21, 2020, 6:22 PM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T74615

Does anyone know if the module still does this bug?

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Or is it superceded by the dynamic sim feature

sinful kettle Nov 21, 2020, 9:50 PM

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Is it a bug that pushBack gets slower for arrays with nested arrays?

_someArray pushBack _arrayWithNestedArrays

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the more times you try that the slower it gets

untold sky Nov 21, 2020, 10:04 PM

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does pushBack copy?

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I think it does?

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does it?

sinful kettle Nov 21, 2020, 10:05 PM

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I don't think so

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_a = [];
_b = [];
_a pushBack _b;
_b set [0, 1];
_a

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gives [[1]]

untold sky Nov 21, 2020, 10:07 PM

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huh

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how much slower is slower?

sinful kettle Nov 21, 2020, 10:08 PM

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well, when the nested array is (relatively) small: 6 ms
when it gets big: 270 ms

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I can send you the code to test if you want

untold sky Nov 21, 2020, 10:09 PM

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6ms? for a single pushBack?

sinful kettle Nov 21, 2020, 10:09 PM

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no like 3000

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I think

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I know you might think : "why not append?" but I have a good reason

untold sky Nov 21, 2020, 10:11 PM

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No I don't think that

gray wharf Nov 21, 2020, 10:11 PM

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he doesn't think

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he processes

untold sky Nov 21, 2020, 10:12 PM

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AH i NKOW

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Im playing arma, tell ya later

sinful kettle Nov 21, 2020, 10:13 PM

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yeah sure, have fun

untold sky Nov 21, 2020, 10:13 PM

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_a pushBack _a
check

sinful kettle Nov 21, 2020, 10:14 PM

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It gives me Recursive array error

untold sky Nov 21, 2020, 10:15 PM

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yes

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the chcek for that slow

sinful kettle Nov 21, 2020, 10:17 PM

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ah I see. that's unfortunate

untold sky Nov 21, 2020, 10:18 PM

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YE, hate that.

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people with bad code salting everyones soup

gray wharf Nov 21, 2020, 10:20 PM

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better check than BSOD 😄

vocal abyss Nov 21, 2020, 10:20 PM

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Wouldn't comparing both argument pointers suffice?

untold sky Nov 21, 2020, 10:20 PM

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you need to nest

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_a pushBack [_a]

vocal abyss Nov 21, 2020, 10:24 PM

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So that's illegal because pushBack doesn't do anything with the element?

untold sky Nov 21, 2020, 10:24 PM

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illegal?
its infinite recursion

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bad, memory leak

gray wharf Nov 21, 2020, 10:25 PM

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"big boom", if you like

vocal abyss Nov 21, 2020, 10:25 PM

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I mean it could make a (deep) copy once before pushing it back, or not? In theory at least.

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Or rather: It could have been designed and implemented that way.

untold sky Nov 21, 2020, 10:26 PM

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backwards compat. not it cant

vocal abyss Nov 21, 2020, 10:26 PM

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I'm mostly interested in the software engineering behind this.

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So it was a design decision, I see.

untold sky Nov 21, 2020, 10:27 PM

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also that would generally be expensive if you copy everything you pushBack

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no it wasn't.
It wasn't thought of, and then ducttaped on afterwards when people's bad code caused problems and we couldn't change behaviour

vocal abyss Nov 21, 2020, 10:28 PM

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Makes sense

sinful kettle Nov 21, 2020, 10:30 PM

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so anyway, the reason my array gets big is that my mod has a "tree" view (which I made myself), and the elements are like:

[configName, configPath, Classes];

and classes is an array that contains similar arrays for the config classes of that config.
I think if I did something like:

treeLevels = [level1, level2, etc.];

and instead I changed my array to:

[configName, configPath, treeLevelIndex]

it won't be as slow right?

untold sky Nov 21, 2020, 10:30 PM

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less nested arrays, more faster

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hashMaps for that would be even better tho 🤣

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omg.. you can nest hashMaps...
AHHHHHHHH

unborn acorn Nov 22, 2020, 3:49 AM

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The editor displays vanilla units when searching in "Compositions (F2)" mod @'modName'
https://ibb.co/3pWWmky

restive bone Nov 22, 2020, 3:50 AM

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did you type that in manually or select it from the arrow to the left? @unborn acorn

unborn acorn Nov 22, 2020, 3:51 AM

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from the arrow

restive bone Nov 22, 2020, 3:51 AM

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blobdoggoshruggoogly I tried it out today and it worked fine for me

unborn acorn Nov 22, 2020, 3:52 AM

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thonk

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Oh, yes, forgot mention! Only in "Independent"
#arma3_feedback_tracker message

unborn acorn Nov 22, 2020, 5:04 AM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T155249
Anyone repro?

alpine tulip Nov 22, 2020, 7:28 AM

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Can confirm, it's not working (in current Dev)

daring wagon Nov 22, 2020, 11:40 PM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154366 Can be closed

gray wharf Nov 22, 2020, 11:40 PM

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set to feedback per usual dev process

daring wagon Nov 22, 2020, 11:41 PM

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Feedback: Works 😄

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except menuSetURL, but that one got its own ticket

gray wharf Nov 22, 2020, 11:41 PM

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I suppose "Closed" arrives on 2.02 ^^

daring wagon Nov 22, 2020, 11:41 PM

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k

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Don't forget about it 🙂

gray wharf Nov 22, 2020, 11:41 PM

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I will!

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😬

heavy veldt Nov 23, 2020, 9:16 AM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T152790 how realistic the idea is that these commands would be implemented to the game? With a quick thought the system would be similar to animationstate or animDone EH?

untold sky Nov 23, 2020, 9:49 AM

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5 realistic

heavy veldt Nov 23, 2020, 10:19 AM

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Isn't 5 enough? 😄

gray wharf Nov 23, 2020, 10:22 AM

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5/5 much realistic

untold sky Nov 24, 2020, 2:17 PM

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thonk

📎 vtune-gui_2020-11-24_15-17-52.png

desert trench Nov 24, 2020, 2:18 PM

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that one was easy, tho 😛

gray wharf Nov 24, 2020, 2:19 PM

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I think Arma3RetailProfile_DX11_x64.exe hogs the performance
kill it and you're good

sinful kettle Nov 24, 2020, 2:20 PM

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shred the file

gray wharf Nov 24, 2020, 2:21 PM

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and to think that all these lazy devs have to do is rename DX11 → DX12 to have all the latest DirectX support…

sinful kettle Nov 24, 2020, 2:21 PM

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yeah, let's publish our own version of Arma

gray wharf Nov 24, 2020, 2:22 PM

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with blackj…

untold sky Nov 24, 2020, 2:23 PM

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that screams of multithreading.
Well food is done now so back to lunch and then I'll fix that

gray wharf Nov 24, 2020, 2:24 PM

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something tells me your natural rythm is shifted by a few hours!

untold sky Nov 24, 2020, 2:24 PM

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@daring wagon
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154837
script like the tree view one but for listview? :prettyplease:

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Confused_Dog

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I retested your multiline test with 50k lines. Game froze for two minutes while creating the UI and text.. but...
Once its there it runs just fine 🤣

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This is scrolling through 50k lines of text

📎 2020-11-24_15-28-52.mp4

sinful kettle Nov 24, 2020, 2:30 PM

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that's weird. did you fix it? I can still reproduce this issue

untold sky Nov 24, 2020, 2:46 PM

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you don't have the fix yet

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dunno if I'll push this week. Probably wait for the other fixes too

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what are your fps with 50k lines? 🤣

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0.3? thisisfine

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the old code also copies every line it renders 3 times or more

daring wagon Nov 24, 2020, 2:48 PM

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untold sky <@!444053322312318976> https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154837 script like the tr...

A bit more and I demand payment 😄

untold sky Nov 24, 2020, 2:48 PM

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😢

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I pay in bugfixes, that ok?

sinful kettle Nov 24, 2020, 2:48 PM

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untold sky you don't have the fix yet

I thought you meant it didn't need fixing!

daring wagon Nov 24, 2020, 2:48 PM

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if they pay my bills

untold sky Nov 24, 2020, 2:48 PM

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crycat

daring wagon Nov 24, 2020, 2:48 PM

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I'll do the listbox in a moment.

sinful kettle Nov 24, 2020, 2:49 PM

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untold sky what are your fps with 50k lines? 🤣

I only tested a few thousand lines. And I was getting ~10FPS!

daring wagon Nov 24, 2020, 2:57 PM

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72k pixels are hard to render 😄

sinful kettle Nov 24, 2020, 2:58 PM

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btw Dedmen, that fix applies to all text controls in a ControlsGroup right? (RscEdit, RscStructuredText, etc.)

untold sky Nov 24, 2020, 2:58 PM

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no

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I fix stuff inside the specific control. Currently only CEdit is fixed

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Tree and List come next, for the rest I'll need seperate repros to see what the issue with that specific control type is, they are all different

sinful kettle Nov 24, 2020, 3:00 PM

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I think I have the same issue with multiline RscStructuredText in a controlsGroup

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I use two overlapping controls (one RscEdit and one StructuredText) so I'm not sure

untold sky Nov 24, 2020, 3:00 PM

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Feel free to add it to the same ticket with a repro

daring wagon Nov 24, 2020, 3:04 PM

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@untold sky Done https://feedback.bistudio.com/T155320

untold sky Nov 24, 2020, 3:06 PM

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❤️ thanks :u

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Listbox rendering with 40k entries is fast for me 150fps. So that one seems to either not have the issue, or my fix on Edit textbox control also fixed List, which is unlikely

daring wagon Nov 24, 2020, 3:20 PM

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I personally always had the feeling that listboxes were faster, but that's subjective of course.

untold sky Nov 24, 2020, 3:22 PM

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the unit list tree on the side in 3den, takes longer to render than the listbox with 40k entries 🤔

daring wagon Nov 24, 2020, 3:23 PM

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notlikemeow

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Maybe because of icons?

untold sky Nov 24, 2020, 3:24 PM

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Probably. They are both so small in impact that its hard to measure where a problem might be.
Besides that treeview one that I already know about

daring wagon Nov 24, 2020, 3:26 PM

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Btw, where is the perf branch update with all the goodies, it's Tuesday 😄

untold sky Nov 24, 2020, 3:26 PM

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I want to finish this stuff first

gray wharf Nov 24, 2020, 3:27 PM

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btw, any way to adapt some UI elements to higher resolutions like 4K? I know you don't do UI itself, but e.g @ 4K or 8K the Eden cursor is very smol

…pwetty pwease? :3 😄

daring wagon Nov 24, 2020, 3:27 PM

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Guess it makes sense to put all the fixed related to UI out first

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CT_CURSOR incoming ?:D

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so we can scale it with pixelGrid

untold sky Nov 24, 2020, 3:31 PM

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the treeview item adding itself, is only 10%
setData is 5.5%

that doesn't seem that slow to me, don't think I can do much on that.
The rest stuff is just script.
16% for creating that array, 13.5% for getting some variable.

daring wagon Nov 24, 2020, 3:32 PM

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hmm too bad

untold sky Nov 24, 2020, 3:34 PM

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adding 800*40k tree items, is "only" 60 seconds

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I don't think config is that big right?
probably more like 40k total?

daring wagon Nov 24, 2020, 3:35 PM

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With sub classes?

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more

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at least 190k

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oh wait

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TBH I can't tell. I mistook it with properties I search through in one of my GUI

untold sky Nov 24, 2020, 3:36 PM

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thats still under 1 second to fill the tree itself.
with setData/setValue, maybe 2-3 seconds. Atleast with that tight loop from the benchmark

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I can probably shave off 1-5% but.. not worth the effort I think. Your main overhead is the script itself

daring wagon Nov 24, 2020, 3:37 PM

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I guess it's best to wait until perf branch was updated with all optimisations. Then we create a test GUI and load the configFile into a tree view

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Then we can see how fast it is

untold sky Nov 24, 2020, 3:38 PM

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what would help would be something like a tvFill, give it one big array with all the name/data/value for all the items in one command call

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but building that big array will then still be the bottleneck

daring wagon Nov 24, 2020, 3:39 PM

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I think the main problem is that filling that tree view would need to be spawned since a 3-4 sec freeze everytime when opening the config viewer is probably not acceptable for most ppl.

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And if spawned I don't wanna know how long it would take

untold sky Nov 24, 2020, 3:41 PM

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how often do you open the config viewer tho?
And you can do it over multiple frames. only do like 2k entries per frame
Add a EachFrame handler on open, and remove it again when tree is filled
you would want to block search though, while its doing that

desert trench Nov 24, 2020, 3:43 PM

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with the new diag, just make a basic extension to open the AIO export with some external editor 😉

untold sky Nov 24, 2020, 3:43 PM

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or that special engine implementation for that config tree

vocal abyss Nov 24, 2020, 3:44 PM

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I personally would not enjoy that freeze at all.
Is it not possible to modify the search function so that only the currently visible level needs to be loaded?
(As I understood it the reason for loading the full config is searchability.)

untold sky Nov 24, 2020, 3:45 PM

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you prefer a 5 second loading screen that prevents you from doing anything and a repeated loading screen everytime you click on something over a one-time 2 second freeze?

vocal abyss Nov 24, 2020, 3:46 PM

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So searchability is not the (only) reason?

untold sky Nov 24, 2020, 3:46 PM

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current config viewer doesn't let you search at all, even with the horrible loading screens

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searching is not what's slow. Filling the tree is slow.
And if you want to search subclasses, you need the full information to be present

daring wagon Nov 24, 2020, 3:47 PM

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We could also use a little trick.

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By default don't load all 13 levels but only like 8

untold sky Nov 24, 2020, 3:47 PM

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Or just one level per frame? that would get worse the more levels you get tho

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I personally prefer 2 second full freeze, over 3 seconds 2fps though.
You don't open config viewer that much. And everything is better than the current loading screen and having to wait 5+ seconds for stuff to become usable

vocal abyss Nov 24, 2020, 3:49 PM

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untold sky searching is not what's slow. Filling the tree is slow. And if you want to searc...

Yes, that's why I was thinking that, by not properly filling the entire tree but just the currently visible level, we could boost that filling speed, trading it for a different search function that will then take longer as it has to crawl the config some other way.

daring wagon Nov 24, 2020, 3:50 PM

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That's not possible with tree view search

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Or at least it's very hacky

untold sky Nov 24, 2020, 3:50 PM

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I don't see any problem with just waiting for it to fill, if its really only a couple seconds

vocal abyss Nov 24, 2020, 3:51 PM

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Can you "cache" that so that you only have to wait once per editor session?

daring wagon Nov 24, 2020, 3:51 PM

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We could also make it a setting. Either spawn or call, if spawn is selected we disable the search till everything is filled. If called then it freezes

untold sky Nov 24, 2020, 3:51 PM

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The NVisibleItems thing seems easy to fix..
Its iterating through all items one by one, even though it just needs to pull the number of children, which it already has in a variable

daring wagon Nov 24, 2020, 3:52 PM

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The NVisibleItems thing seems easy to fix..
What's that?

untold sky Nov 24, 2020, 3:52 PM

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TreeView rendering speed

vocal abyss Nov 24, 2020, 4:00 PM

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But if my idea is not that viable, forget about it; having a config viewer that takes a few seconds to open and runs smoothly after that would be a big improvement, especially if it comes with search functionality.

untold sky Nov 24, 2020, 4:10 PM

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The expensive part of rendering a tree with thousands of items, is actually updating the height of the scrollbar notlikemeowcry
The scrollbar is updated and re-counts the number of tree items recursively every frame.
Could just cache the height, and only refresh when some item was expanded or added or removed, but thats probably too much effort
Unless I find a easy way to let the tree root know that something changed..
Though.. the root will know of item add/remove, and it knows of user input. Just refresh scrollbar on every click on the tree 🤔

fickle root Nov 24, 2020, 4:27 PM

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hope you'll work on next title as well, to not let certain people write stuff the way it shouldn't be written

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like it's the case in A3, where you have to redo a lot for it to work how it should have worked from the beginning, since it was/is possible and you prove/show it

daring wagon Nov 24, 2020, 4:44 PM

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@untold sky
17:44:05 191263 //Total count of classes
17:44:05 1.35498 //Time it takes to iterate through all of them when called

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  _time = diag_tickTime;
  _counter = 0;
  _fnc_goDeeper =
  {
    params ["_config"];
    {
      _counter = _counter + 1;
      //systemChat str _counter;
      //systemChat str (diag_tickTime - _time);
      _x call _fnc_goDeeper;
    } forEach ("true" configClasses _config);
  };
  configFile call _fnc_goDeeper;
  diag_log _counter;
  diag_log (diag_tickTime - _time);```
code used.

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Not sure tree view is feasible for config viewer. I mean, this it not even tested with ace or cpu or rhs

untold sky Nov 24, 2020, 4:46 PM

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so adding tree add onto that, 3x the time maybe?

daring wagon Nov 24, 2020, 4:46 PM

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Hard to say

untold sky Nov 24, 2020, 4:47 PM

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"true" configClasses _config thats so bad, as it iterates over every item to call "true" is there no better way to get all subclasses?

daring wagon Nov 24, 2020, 4:47 PM

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Does "" work

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idk

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nah

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needs to return true

untold sky Nov 24, 2020, 4:48 PM

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I can probably make "" work as "gimme all" though

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I'll test that and see what difference it makes

daring wagon Nov 24, 2020, 4:49 PM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/configProperties

configProperties

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This command is probably the same, but the condition is optional

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Maybe you can check what engine does in this command when the condition is omitted

untold sky Nov 24, 2020, 5:05 PM

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lel

📎 vtune-gui_2020-11-24_18-05-20.png

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Mouse wheel scrolling in big tree's is also very slow because it also checks how many visible items the tree has.
It counts the items to calculate a value to check something and set a variable that..... is never used PikaThink

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Were the tiny up/down buttons on top/bottom of the scrollbar always broken? they don't scroll 🤔

sinful kettle Nov 24, 2020, 5:19 PM

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I think so

untold sky Nov 24, 2020, 5:19 PM

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maybe that should be fixed ThonkSpin

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i just clicked the down button, and it just reset me all the way to the top.. interesting

sinful kettle Nov 24, 2020, 5:21 PM

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actually, I just tested one controlsGroup.They're a bit clunky but they work

untold sky Nov 24, 2020, 5:21 PM

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clunky? I think it should just scroll by one item per click

sinful kettle Nov 24, 2020, 5:22 PM

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controlsGroup
were you referring to something else?

untold sky Nov 24, 2020, 5:22 PM

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Probably treeview has its own scrollbar?

sinful kettle Nov 24, 2020, 5:23 PM

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yeah I think they do

untold sky Nov 24, 2020, 5:23 PM

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Okey I got tree view with 50k items at 120fps
I think before I had about 5 fps with that

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but after scrolling half way down, I'm back at under 0.1fps

sinful kettle Nov 24, 2020, 5:24 PM

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actually I think tree view never slows down when scroll=0

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not sure

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it's when you go down that it gets slow

untold sky Nov 24, 2020, 5:24 PM

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it does, see my results above.

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every frame it iterates through all items (in a bad way) to count them to update the scrollbar
My basic fix was apparently good enough, I thought it needed more but that part i fixed atleast

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and the drawing code iterates through items in the same bad way so I need to find a different way to do that.

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and left clicking onto an item does the same bad iteration

sinful kettle Nov 24, 2020, 5:33 PM

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not sure how the game does it, but this is how I do it in my tree view:
https://sqfbin.com/ivijetuloyulenaregey
I save all expanded tree branches.
when I have to update the view, I just use a simple for loop that only iterates in the view limit based on the height of the tree elements and scroll value
I'm not sure if it can be done in the engine though

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It is super fast

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no lag at all

untold sky Nov 24, 2020, 5:34 PM

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I don't need to save/cache.
My new way to count items is very fast, and all it does is iterate the items differently.
I just need to adopt it to skip out of view items when rendering/clicking

fickle root Nov 24, 2020, 6:38 PM

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is all of the chinese stuff discussed here only related to SP/editor or are there also benefits for MP for normal players?

untold sky Nov 24, 2020, 6:38 PM

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We are talking about UI rendering

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Including Zeus interface. But most normal players probably don't have list/tree views with hundreds of items on screen

fickle root Nov 24, 2020, 6:39 PM

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(((

untold sky Nov 24, 2020, 7:27 PM

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I should be able to get it into a profiling build late tomorrow. blobdance
Atleast if the benchmarking tomorrow works out and I don't find anything else important that I need to fix

sinful kettle Nov 24, 2020, 7:36 PM

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That's not fair! Dev branch should be updated first! notlikemeowcry

daring wagon Nov 25, 2020, 12:28 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiWY7OHexd8&feature=youtu.be First proof of concept works.

YouTube

R3vo

Arma 3 - Config Viewer Test

▶ Play video

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Only issue right now is the sorting of the tree view. A command would be nice which sorts a tree view including all sub trees similar to tvExpandAll vs tvExpand

finite anvil Nov 25, 2020, 8:47 AM

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Since the editbox is getting some attention maybe https://feedback.bistudio.com/T85981 would also be interesting to adjust

gray wharf Nov 25, 2020, 8:48 AM

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oooh yes :3

untold sky Nov 25, 2020, 9:45 AM

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Someone actually started a "tree sort by value" implementation, but didn't finish it.
How would you want to sort exactly? by name? @daring wagon

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Also one thing that bothers me is wrong double-click selection behaviour in edit box. You'd probably want the same for ctrl+backspace.

Also.. Today I learned, ctrl+backspace is a thing

daring wagon Nov 25, 2020, 9:46 AM

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Yes by name is fine

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Lol, same here

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Just tested it. Never heard of it before

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But I also didn't know CTRL+ENTER in a browser would add .com to the adress 😄

untold sky Nov 25, 2020, 9:47 AM

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thats probably browser specific

daring wagon Nov 25, 2020, 9:48 AM

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It is, just saying. There are so many shortcuts we probably don't know 😄

untold sky Nov 25, 2020, 9:48 AM

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the ctrl+backspace is a tiny bit more work though, as I can't just go back to next word limiter ( .,-/...) but also need to skip all, till encountered a word and then find next limiter..
Actually that's easy with new stuff I implemented last week 🤔
But I think support for that is a designer decision

gray wharf Nov 25, 2020, 9:50 AM

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btw, Discord has an issue with Ctrl + ←/→ when there is a user @ tag

untold sky Nov 25, 2020, 9:50 AM

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Ahhh more hotkeys

gray wharf Nov 25, 2020, 9:50 AM

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more hotkeys
to be implemented :D
sooo a Ctrl + ←/→ in a text field would be nice indeed :3

untold sky Nov 25, 2020, 9:52 AM

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but how many people know about these shortcuts :U
Fixing double click behaviour should probably be first

gray wharf Nov 25, 2020, 9:53 AM

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but how many people know about these shortcuts :U
…plenty? just you two didn't 😄

daring wagon Nov 25, 2020, 9:54 AM

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You know what WIN + NUMBERKEY does?

gray wharf Nov 25, 2020, 9:55 AM

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no (but I know Win+Shift+S 😬)

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ah wait, the multiple desktops right?

daring wagon Nov 25, 2020, 9:55 AM

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nope

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just press it

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well only works if you have something in your task bar

gray wharf Nov 25, 2020, 9:55 AM

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aaah, the numbers above the letters
yes, starts the apps in the taskbar

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I have my browser on Win+6, don't ask why

untold sky Nov 25, 2020, 9:56 AM

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literally nothing happens on win 8.1 🤣

daring wagon Nov 25, 2020, 9:56 AM

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Might be a new one dunno

gray wharf Nov 25, 2020, 9:56 AM

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might have been introduced with Win10 yep

untold sky Nov 25, 2020, 9:56 AM

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Tree fix benchmark failed btw. so maybe no prof today if I don't get it fixed fast

daring wagon Nov 25, 2020, 9:56 AM

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📎 windows-10-keyboard-shortcuts-png8.png

gray wharf Nov 25, 2020, 9:57 AM

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for those who don't know: Ctrl+Shift+V = paste without formatting - for when you copy a big text from a webpage into a Word doc)

daring wagon Nov 25, 2020, 9:57 AM

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Oh, this one is nice

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Need to remember this when pasting stuff into word. It always ducks up the formatting

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We need a new channel in discord #ShareYourShortcuts 😄

finite anvil Nov 25, 2020, 9:59 AM

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arma itself also has shortcuts that you can only know about when reading the functions :D

daring wagon Nov 25, 2020, 10:00 AM

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I only know ALT + F4 and that's my favorite one 😄

finite anvil Nov 25, 2020, 10:00 AM

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eg the current config browser does support some basic filtering when you just start typing on the listbox

daring wagon Nov 25, 2020, 10:00 AM

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Yes I know that one. It even shows what you typed in the top left

gray wharf Nov 25, 2020, 10:01 AM

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yes - I believe I only found out last year or so 😄

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(almost not using the config viewer though)

daring wagon Nov 25, 2020, 10:02 AM

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Yesterday I got told that the config viewer automatically booksmarks weapon config and magazine config + something else if you preview a vehicle from within Eden Editor with it.

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Might be a feature for your Config Viewer @finite anvil

gray wharf Nov 25, 2020, 10:02 AM

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bottom left yes - it changes when you change weapon as well

daring wagon Nov 25, 2020, 10:02 AM

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I never noticed, just wondered why I can't remove some bookmarks 😄

finite anvil Nov 25, 2020, 10:03 AM

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daring wagon Yesterday I got told that the config viewer automatically booksmarks weapon conf...

i only know from the config viewer function that it sets some default entries for you favourites

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if you have none

gray wharf Nov 25, 2020, 10:03 AM

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daring wagon I never noticed, just wondered why I can't remove some bookmarks 😄

You STUPID Arma UI that doesn't let y… ooooooooooooooh!

daring wagon Nov 25, 2020, 10:03 AM

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Yes.

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Btw, how high is the chance to see engine search for listbox and maybe even listnbox?

untold sky Nov 25, 2020, 10:18 AM

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R3vo what new tree commands you wanted?
only tvSort? if multiple then probably a ticket.

If you make me a ticket, and show me how config setup of a searchable Tree looks like (you have some entry that defines what the search textbox is) then sure
probably also want config property to choose whether only display text or also data/value thing
What list do you have tho thats big enough to need engine search 🙃

Like ACE Arsenal does just fine even with the huge magazines list

daring wagon Nov 25, 2020, 10:19 AM

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It's not about the size of the list

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It's about convenience

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With ctrl tree one just adds a CT_EDIT and an IDC to the tree view and boom

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With listboxes it's so inconvenient.

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only tvSort? if multiple then probably a ticket.
Only tvSortAll

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Maybe ask @finite anvil or @tulip shard They do GUI stuff a lot too.

untold sky Nov 25, 2020, 10:22 AM

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is there a tvSort already?

daring wagon Nov 25, 2020, 10:22 AM

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yes

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/tvSort

tvSort

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It needs a path though

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And for consistency tvSortAll is probably better since we also have tvExpand and tvExpandAll (The latter doesn't take path)

untold sky Nov 25, 2020, 10:23 AM

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fine if I do no idc parameter?

daring wagon Nov 25, 2020, 10:23 AM

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no idc?

untold sky Nov 25, 2020, 10:23 AM

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alt syntax

daring wagon Nov 25, 2020, 10:23 AM

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you mean no path?

untold sky Nov 25, 2020, 10:23 AM

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no. idc.

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see tvSort alt syntax

daring wagon Nov 25, 2020, 10:24 AM

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Now I get it.

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No one uses idc syntax anyway

untold sky Nov 25, 2020, 10:24 AM

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I don't want to overhaul all the UI stuffz. Just looking for work I can do while waiting for stuff to compile

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I made ticket for tvSortAll

gray wharf Nov 25, 2020, 10:25 AM

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non-resizing cursor would be neat :p

daring wagon Nov 25, 2020, 10:35 AM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T155341 Ticket for search

untold sky Nov 25, 2020, 10:46 AM

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tvSortByValueAll too? oof

daring wagon Nov 25, 2020, 10:47 AM

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I don't need it-

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Optionally yes

finite anvil Nov 25, 2020, 10:53 AM

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I can't think of any commands that I'd need atm. I am very happy to have a fast tree search :)

daring wagon Nov 25, 2020, 10:54 AM

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Well, I could think of a few more UI commands 😄

untold sky Nov 25, 2020, 10:54 AM

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Ahh here we go

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had to do one more tweak to make CPU cache happier

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📎 2020-11-25_11-55-05.mp4

daring wagon Nov 25, 2020, 10:55 AM

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❤️

untold sky Nov 25, 2020, 10:56 AM

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Thats 50k items.

No tree: 170fps
Tree open scrolled to top: 150fps
Tree open scrolled to bottom: 60fps

it still needs to do the calc to skip the items, so I can't do that much better without multithreading, and that would be sooo complex I'd rather not

daring wagon Nov 25, 2020, 10:57 AM

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It's perfect like this.

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Anything is better than 0.000001 fps

untold sky Nov 25, 2020, 10:57 AM

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but muh 120hz monitor :U reeee

daring wagon Nov 25, 2020, 10:57 AM

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60hz only 😢

untold sky Nov 25, 2020, 10:58 AM

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tvSort is done, I'll do a quick copy-paste job for the ByValue and get profiling build done.
your listbox filter is no prio yet, but I'll make it a ticket

daring wagon Nov 25, 2020, 10:58 AM

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Awesome, much appreciated

untold sky Nov 25, 2020, 10:58 AM

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Anything else I forgot? We'll probably see when profiling is out if there are still problems around

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tvSortAll is slow, I can make it fast if needed. We'll see then

daring wagon Nov 25, 2020, 10:59 AM

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I guess it's still faster than looping through all levels with sqf

untold sky Nov 25, 2020, 10:59 AM

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definitely.
But not as fast as using all your CPU cores to sort everything in parallel

fickle root Nov 25, 2020, 11:01 AM

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dev of the year award 👑

daring wagon Nov 25, 2020, 11:03 AM

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untold sky tvSort is done, I'll do a quick copy-paste job for the ByValue and get profiling...

https://feedback.bistudio.com/T155341 Here is the ticket in case you missed the message.

untold sky Nov 25, 2020, 11:03 AM

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I saw it but now I don't need to scroll up :3 thanks

uncut briar Nov 25, 2020, 11:45 AM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T123362 any chance for this to be implemented?

untold sky Nov 25, 2020, 11:46 AM

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I don't see a need
_unit modelToWorldVisualWorld (_unit selectionPosition "pilot")
is a thing. It would only be a slight perf improvement

dire wind Nov 25, 2020, 11:57 AM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T139484 Is this considered intended behavior?

untold sky Nov 25, 2020, 12:01 PM

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lol wut. Don't think so

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might happen if vehicle player == player because code was executed too soon there

dire wind Nov 25, 2020, 12:07 PM

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it is not affecting the driver. I don't think it affects gunners of turret either, but I can't remember properly. But passengers for sure. just spawn an empty vic and a soldier, get on a seat and execute vehicle player setVehicleAmmoDef 1 and bam, contents of vest and backpack gone.

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do the same with setVehicleAmmo and it does not happen.

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just did a test again with a hmg prowler and an ammo barrier: Gunner, commander and driver are not affected. As a passenger you lose contents except for faks? Even the gun disappeared.

solid marten Nov 25, 2020, 12:40 PM

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untold sky might happen if `vehicle player == player` because code was executed too soon th...

but svda 1 should not remove anything anyway

restive bone Nov 25, 2020, 12:43 PM

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Btw I think this ticket can be closed https://feedback.bistudio.com/T67343

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Also heh dedmen questioning why a ticket is still open in 2017, and its still open now https://feedback.bistudio.com/T65635

Why is this issue still open? Priority urgent, Severity major. For an issue that is only shown via unavailable youtube videos and that couldn't be reproduced by anyone shortly after it was created.

sinful kettle Nov 25, 2020, 12:47 PM

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untold sky Also one thing that bothers me is wrong double-click selection behaviour in edit...

Yes please. 🙏

sinful kettle Nov 25, 2020, 12:48 PM

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untold sky Thats 50k items. No tree: 170fps Tree open scrolled to top: 150fps Tree open sc...

Can caching help?

untold sky Nov 25, 2020, 12:52 PM

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yeah, but need to clear cache when any item is expanded/unexpanded/added/removed/reordered or scroll is changed

restive bone Nov 25, 2020, 12:56 PM

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I think this ticket can be closed aswell https://feedback.bistudio.com/T66260 , the hunters damage model seems pretty good to me (from memory) ( @gray wharf )

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aswell as https://feedback.bistudio.com/T64729

gray wharf Nov 25, 2020, 12:59 PM

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done @restive bone

restive bone Nov 25, 2020, 12:59 PM

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yayautism Thank you

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(Also this one I mentioned earlier #arma3_feedback_tracker message )

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Also https://feedback.bistudio.com/T65921

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Also https://feedback.bistudio.com/T129139 , it was already marked as wont fix for a bit but got reopened

gray wharf Nov 25, 2020, 1:08 PM

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all done

restive bone Nov 25, 2020, 1:21 PM

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Huh this would be nifty https://feedback.bistudio.com/T128495

restive bone Nov 25, 2020, 1:43 PM

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Can be closed https://feedback.bistudio.com/T127934

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T127845 too

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T127915 too

gray wharf Nov 25, 2020, 1:52 PM

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3× closed

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bring'em!

daring wagon Nov 25, 2020, 1:55 PM

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@gray wharf You develope now? 😄

📎 unknown.png

gray wharf Nov 25, 2020, 1:56 PM

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I do EVURTHINNN

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I suppose it was an old ticket that had no owner ^^

haughty rivet Nov 25, 2020, 6:26 PM

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Just reading up and noticed tvSortAll/tvSortByValueAll - is that to replace having to do

{
            _people tvSortByValue [[_x],false];
        } forEach [0,1,2,3,4];

sinful kettle Nov 25, 2020, 6:32 PM

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Does tvSortByValue sort every sub tree from [_x]?

haughty rivet Nov 25, 2020, 6:33 PM

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No, I'd have to have a path greater then just _x so like [_x,0] etc, however my tree doesn't go that deep

sinful kettle Nov 25, 2020, 7:06 PM

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my tree doesn't go that deep
If that's the case, then yeah.

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Because tvSortByValueAll sorts the entire tree view.

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Speaking of which, wouldn't it have been better if both of these commands also accepted a path and sorted the tree from there?
Like

_tv tvSortByValueAll [[0],true];

to sort all sub trees starting from [0]
and:

_tv tvSortByValueAll [[],true];

to sort the entire tree (what the command does right now)

untold sky Nov 25, 2020, 7:33 PM

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Better maybe, but work, and if we do that, we'd have to do the same with expand/collapse

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if I find time tomorrow I can modify the command to take array instead

haughty rivet Nov 25, 2020, 7:58 PM

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Yeah thats a good idea, saves a lot of faff with getting certain bits to sort. Maybe tvSortAllByValue tho 😉

daring wagon Nov 25, 2020, 11:46 PM

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I might have found a bug with https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/lnbSetPicture

It seems that once a picture is set it cannot be removed by ctrl lnbSetPicture [[_row,_column],""];

lnbSetPicture

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However I can replace it without any issues if I set a different texture.

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Can anyone confirm that?

finite anvil Nov 25, 2020, 11:48 PM

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oh now you remind me: CT_COMBO can not be unselected with lbSetCurSel -1 like the listboxes can

daring wagon Nov 25, 2020, 11:48 PM

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notlikemeow

fallen elk Nov 26, 2020, 2:55 AM

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daring wagon Can anyone confirm that?

Can confirm.

daring wagon Nov 26, 2020, 8:24 AM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T155366 Ticket for lnbSetPicture bug. If more information is needed ping me.

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@gray wharf Spam https://feedback.bistudio.com/T155362

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T155361

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T123348 Last note is spam as well

restive bone Nov 26, 2020, 8:34 AM

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I wonder what the spammers intention is

daring wagon Nov 26, 2020, 8:34 AM

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~~None~~ To click the stupid links. But the spammers are "bots"

restive bone Nov 26, 2020, 8:43 AM

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I know its bots but I'd think the bi feedback tracker isnt really the first thing to come to mind when you set up a spam bot heh

gray wharf Nov 26, 2020, 8:58 AM

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daring wagon <@!137855151120711680> Spam https://feedback.bistudio.com/T155362

done (and disabled said users)

restive bone Nov 26, 2020, 9:05 AM

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yayautism Good guy Lou

gray wharf Nov 26, 2020, 9:11 AM

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as I said, bring'em!

untold sky Nov 26, 2020, 9:39 AM

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sorting 50k tree of random sorted config classes (repro from R3vo) is ultra fast. Even in debug build its just "blip"
though thats only one-level deep tree. but should be fine

daring wagon Nov 26, 2020, 9:58 AM

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Very nice.

daring wagon Nov 26, 2020, 9:59 AM

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daring wagon https://feedback.bistudio.com/T155366 Ticket for lnbSetPicture bug. If more info...

Here's another bug I found notlikemeow

untold sky Nov 26, 2020, 10:00 AM

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I saw, I'll do configClasses first

untold sky Nov 26, 2020, 10:19 AM

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daring wagon ```sqf _time = diag_tickTime; _counter = 0; _fnc_goDeeper = { params...

Before:
classes: 189508
Time: 3.216
After:
classes: 189508
Time: 1.89301

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just added check if condition == "true" then don't run any SQF and just pass everything straight through

daring wagon Nov 26, 2020, 10:21 AM

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nice optimisation.

untold sky Nov 26, 2020, 10:22 AM

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I thought I'd do if condition is empty. but that changes behaviour from all true to all false

sinful kettle Nov 26, 2020, 10:27 AM

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untold sky just added check if condition == "true" then don't run any SQF and just pass eve...

Is it faster when the condition code is a string? (I'm assuming the answer is no)
If so, why isn't that a code in the first place? Like:

{ true } configClasses configFile

untold sky Nov 26, 2020, 10:28 AM

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it makes no difference

sinful kettle Nov 26, 2020, 10:28 AM

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but writing the code is easier
because of syntax highlighting

untold sky Nov 26, 2020, 10:28 AM

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But its effort to add new syntax, and i couldn't do this optimization that easily with that

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On thing I just saw in ACE code, they do "isClass _x" configClasses which is useless as configClasses only returns classes

gray wharf Nov 26, 2020, 10:29 AM

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I wondered too, why string instead of code, if it is to put code in it?
compile usage would add a little overhead no?

untold sky Nov 26, 2020, 10:29 AM

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a tiny bit yes.
It takes string because its old

gray wharf Nov 26, 2020, 10:29 AM

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A3 v1.24 🤨 it's not like it's ArmA 😄

untold sky Nov 26, 2020, 10:30 AM

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I dunno, but I'll keep it that way

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unless its super easy and we have a StringOrCode type

sinful kettle Nov 26, 2020, 10:31 AM

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event handlers support both don't they?

untold sky Nov 26, 2020, 10:31 AM

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We don't

gray wharf Nov 26, 2020, 10:31 AM

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addAction takes both?

untold sky Nov 26, 2020, 10:31 AM

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you can make it a feature request for some other day if you need it so dearly. But that will not have my optimization probably because it would be quite a bit harder to do, so I don't see the sense

gray wharf Nov 26, 2020, 10:32 AM

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