#arma3_feedback_tracker | ARMA | Page 29

calm smelt Oct 1, 2020, 1:06 AM

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@sinful kettle
Something like this?
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/compileFinal

sinful kettle Oct 1, 2020, 1:07 AM

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Yeah but with all types of variables (not just code)

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The only solution so far is compileFinal:

MY_var = compileFinal "1";
#define VAR (call MY_var)

VAR

which doesn't work with objects (you can't stringize objects)

solid marten Oct 1, 2020, 5:52 AM

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not in missionnamespace

haughty barn Oct 1, 2020, 8:30 AM

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Are UAVs still so buggy that they are unusable in autonomous mode or am I missing something? Whenever I use them I have to use a mod to replace the ai approximately every time I do something. The falcon flies in circles, the darter flies in tight circles, the greyhawk goes in a straight line to the southwest, and they all stop following any waypoints. I can double check with no mods, but this happens in multiplayer and singleplayer with different mod packs and no mods that should be affecting AI.

restive bone Oct 1, 2020, 10:10 AM

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@haughty barn I've had problems with drones just flying in circles after a while before

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usually you can fix it by giving it a waypoint or turning the ai off and on again but not always

alpine tulip Oct 1, 2020, 10:22 AM

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Just found a possible issue? Looks like lineIntersectsSurfaces returns only one intersect even if I set maxResults -1 if begPosASL is underground even endPosASL is above ground. Can somebody confirm?

solid marten Oct 1, 2020, 11:05 AM

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“If begPosASL is under the ground and endPosASL is above it, the command will only return intersection with the ground, this is engine limitation and none of the intersectXXX commands will work when initiated from under the ground.” @alpine tulip does this answer your question?

alpine tulip Oct 1, 2020, 11:09 AM

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Aw damn, that note should slipped out from my eyes. My bad

untold sky Oct 1, 2020, 2:44 PM

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@sinful kettle not possible, was once tried but then quickly reverted as it caused too much issues.
But we might try again

sinful kettle Oct 1, 2020, 7:00 PM

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What about making variables changeable only if they're executed by the same function that initialized it (or more generally by the same "addon")?
I remember that once I was mistakenly using _array pushBack _something when I'd defined _array = thisList and it showed an error telling me that I was trying to modify a reserved variable or something (even though it is changeable by the vanilla game).
I think this is even more difficult

untold sky Oct 1, 2020, 7:44 PM

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no, no

naive ledge Oct 1, 2020, 7:44 PM

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What's the purpose anyway? Safety features?

gray wharf Oct 1, 2020, 7:45 PM

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I was recently interested so a server-side public (and global) variable would not be overridden but just updated by a method

naive ledge Oct 1, 2020, 7:51 PM

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So, you had a global public variable in missionNamespace, and you wanted that it would not be overridden but just updated by a method think_turtle I am not sure what you mean.

gray wharf Oct 1, 2020, 7:55 PM

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like - the server can update it and publicVariable it, but a client could not override it

e.g my array would be [0,1,2]
I want to keep the reference to the array
and I want the server being able to _array set [0, 99] and publicVariable (refresh) it
but I am not sure if it would be doable

sinful kettle Oct 1, 2020, 7:58 PM

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What's the purpose anyway? Safety features?
Yes
For example, as you may know CBA has a variable called CBA_missionTime. A lot of mods like ACE use it. Now if some genius tries to mess with it, it could mess up all of those mods, CBA included.

naive ledge Oct 1, 2020, 7:59 PM

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If someone has access to scripts then we are doomed regardless, I think we can't solve the problem much in that domain.

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But I agree it would be useful to set a read-only variable like with compile final

sinful kettle Oct 1, 2020, 7:59 PM

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But if it's "restricted" they wouldn't be able to

naive ledge Oct 1, 2020, 7:59 PM

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oh wait you mean not cheats but just bad programming?

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yeah I get it then

sinful kettle Oct 1, 2020, 7:59 PM

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Yes

naive ledge Oct 1, 2020, 8:00 PM

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would be neat

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In proper programming this is solved by private variable of a class or similar 🤷

sinful kettle Oct 1, 2020, 8:01 PM

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Yeah

naive ledge Oct 1, 2020, 8:02 PM

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like - the server can update it and publicVariable it, but a client could not override it

e.g my array would be [0,1,2]
I want to keep the reference to the array
and I want the server being able to _array set [0, 99] and publicVariable (refresh) it
but I am not sure if it would be doable
@gray wharf This is really weird Lou, I think you should rethink how to solve this problem with remote exec. Public variable are better for simple server->client broadcast, when client can only read it.

gray wharf Oct 1, 2020, 8:03 PM

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but a hacker client could find a way to publicVariable (use console, etc), that's what I would want to prevent

naive ledge Oct 1, 2020, 8:05 PM

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but a hacker client could find a way to publicVariable (use console, etc), that's what I would want to prevent
I believe that publicVariable should be just banned, it's really unsafe, it's same as if I expose a "write this byte to this memory" of my computer through network interface 😄

gray wharf Oct 1, 2020, 8:05 PM

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yep, that too :p

naive ledge Oct 1, 2020, 8:05 PM

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remoteexec thing is really nice in fact, with the way everyone can white list functions to be remote executed

gray wharf Oct 1, 2020, 8:05 PM

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but a final var would still be nice to have ^^

sinful kettle Oct 1, 2020, 8:06 PM

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So anyway, I was gonna ask for another feature.
Is it possible to add a command that returns all objects created by a multi-part object? (like USS Freedom)
Or is there such a feature/variable already?

gray wharf Oct 1, 2020, 8:07 PM

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I don't believe it is listed anywhere, it's an object that spawns and setVariable other parts

sinful kettle Oct 1, 2020, 8:07 PM

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yeah, that's why I ask for such a feature

gray wharf Oct 1, 2020, 8:07 PM

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no è.é

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joke aside, there is nothing of this kind beside the USS Freedom?

sinful kettle Oct 1, 2020, 8:08 PM

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I've seen many large objects that use that

gray wharf Oct 1, 2020, 8:08 PM

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vanilla?

sinful kettle Oct 1, 2020, 8:09 PM

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Most of them were ships
No

gray wharf Oct 1, 2020, 8:09 PM

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ah, well
given the way it is made they would need to all go through the same function, which they don't
only this common creation function could list these objects

sinful kettle Oct 1, 2020, 8:09 PM

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another example: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1685039592

gray wharf Oct 1, 2020, 8:09 PM

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sooo… I don't believe we will see that any time

sinful kettle Oct 1, 2020, 8:11 PM

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Which function is it? maybe I can extract the variables!

gray wharf Oct 1, 2020, 8:14 PM

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I mean, such function does not exist

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BIS_fnc_Carrier01Init takes care of the carrier, but that's it

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apparently each object has its own function, so it is quite untrackable in its state

sinful kettle Oct 1, 2020, 8:14 PM

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hmm, let me check

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The only solution right now is to cache all multi part objects at startup (in [part, main object] pairs):

multiStructureParts[] = {["Land_Carrier_01_hull_01_F","pos_hull_1"],["Land_Carrier_01_hull_02_F","pos_hull_2"],["Land_Carrier_01_hull_03_1_F","pos_hull_3_1"],["Land_Carrier_01_hull_03_2_F","pos_hull_3_2"],["Land_Carrier_01_hull_04_1_F","pos_hull_4_1"],["Land_Carrier_01_hull_04_2_F","pos_hull_4_2"],["Land_Carrier_01_hull_05_1_F","pos_hull_5_1"],["Land_Carrier_01_hull_05_2_F","pos_hull_5_2"],["Land_Carrier_01_hull_06_1_F","pos_hull_6_1"],["Land_Carrier_01_hull_06_2_F","pos_hull_6_2"],["Land_Carrier_01_hull_07_1_F","pos_hull_7_1"],["Land_Carrier_01_hull_07_2_F","pos_hull_7_2"],["Land_Carrier_01_hull_08_1_F","pos_hull_8_1"],["Land_Carrier_01_hull_08_2_F","pos_hull_8_2"],["Land_Carrier_01_hull_09_1_F","pos_hull_9_1"],["Land_Carrier_01_hull_09_2_F","pos_hull_9_2"],["Land_Carrier_01_island_01_F","pos_island_1"],["Land_Carrier_01_island_02_F","pos_island_2"],["Land_Carrier_01_island_03_F","pos_island_3"],["DynamicAirport_01_F","pos_Airport"]};

Then, if you encounter one of those classes, you search in near objects to see if one matches the parent object type (in this case "Land_Carrier_01_base_F")

gray wharf Oct 1, 2020, 8:30 PM

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yep, it's not engine-based unfortunately
otherwise a listing would have been easy

daring wagon Oct 1, 2020, 10:56 PM

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but a hacker client could find a way to publicVariable (use console, etc), that's what I would want to prevent
@gray wharf That's that's why you can disabled certain commands on a client

naive ledge Oct 2, 2020, 5:09 AM

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Can we disable publicVariable? How?

gray wharf Oct 2, 2020, 5:13 AM

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CfgDisabledCommands or something like that

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yup

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_CfgDisabledCommands

Arma 3 CfgDisabledCommands

solid marten Oct 2, 2020, 7:09 AM

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use localNamespace and if you need server to update variable in it make a function that trusts only remoteExecutedOwner == 2

vocal abyss Oct 2, 2020, 1:39 PM

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Any chance for ModuleHideTerrainObjects_F to work as a clutter cutter (to remove grass) too?
Would be a lot more useable than the three clutter cutter objects.

spare vine Oct 2, 2020, 1:45 PM

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no, because the module removes objects, and not grass/clutter

vocal abyss Oct 2, 2020, 2:34 PM

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Is there no code to remove clutter?

spare vine Oct 2, 2020, 2:36 PM

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no, the cutter objects are the only way, since it's putting objects down (non-visible) which make the engine think there's something which shouldn't show grass/clutter through the floor (like buildings or tents)

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and even that isn't 100% foolproof

wraith sapphire Oct 2, 2020, 2:48 PM

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@solid marten Do you need further input on this https://feedback.bistudio.com/T84869 ?

vocal abyss Oct 2, 2020, 3:03 PM

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I see

sinful kettle Oct 2, 2020, 11:13 PM

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It appears that feedback tracker is down, so I post my request here:
Is it possible to add a command for RscEdit controls that returns where a certain character is at in display coordinates? (relative coordinates are also fine)
Something like:

ctrl ctrlEditCharacterPosition n

where n is the index of the character in ctrlText.
And:

ctrlEditCursorPosition ctrl

That tells where the cursor is.

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Also, can we get a TextChanged event handler for them as well? Something that can return:
where they got edited (index)?
what changed?
was it added or removed?

spare vine Oct 2, 2020, 11:18 PM

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tracker is working for me 🤷‍♂️
And you can use the onChar EH and run your code on that

sinful kettle Oct 2, 2020, 11:19 PM

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It works, but my feedback doesn't register

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Also, I know about onChar but that's not what I want.

naive ledge Oct 3, 2020, 6:29 PM

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Publisher allows illegal character names, confusing people doing first-time dedicated server setup
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154202

sinful kettle Oct 4, 2020, 9:40 AM

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copyToClipboard doesn't work with non English characters:
https://discordapp.com/channels/105462288051380224/105462984087728128/762234291572572230

long rain Oct 4, 2020, 1:07 PM

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been looking at the warrior for a while now, and it has a massive Name selection error on the right side of the vehicle. the 3rd and 4th road wheel is running around either the 5th or 6th road wheels axis. So looks like they have the same name selection

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https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1638705743367767233/CE1B33ECC18862CD10EF73C2B0A14E2D036EECCF/

solid marten Oct 4, 2020, 4:30 PM

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what am I looking at? @long rain

shadow beacon Oct 4, 2020, 4:43 PM

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I think he's saying that he suspects that some of the roadwheels in the lower LODs of the Mora, have incorrect named selections because they move around the wrong axis or exhibiting other weird animation behaviour

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In the screenshot the middle roadwheels look like they're sunk in the ground below the tracks, not lined up on the ground like the others. Only 4 wheels are visible where there should be 6

long rain Oct 4, 2020, 5:28 PM

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yeah indeed as i wrote looks like the right side has gotten the 3rd and 4th road wheel on one of the distance lods, selected with the same selection name as the 5th road wheel

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cause they turn around the axis with the 5th roadwheel

solid marten Oct 4, 2020, 6:25 PM

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@sinful kettle @desert trench Could you make a copyToClipboard ticket please?

desert trench Oct 4, 2020, 6:36 PM

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@solid marten with sample repro or just the issue itself is enough here?

solid marten Oct 4, 2020, 6:37 PM

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19:36:18 "copytoclipboard ""привет"""
19:36:18 "copyFromClipboard: привет"
19:36:18 "copyFromClipboardW: Ð¿Ñ€Ð¸Ð²ÐµÑ‚"
19:36:25 "copytoclipboardW ""привет"""
19:36:25 "copyFromClipboard: ??????"
19:36:25 "copyFromClipboardW: привет"

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repro is good for our QA so yes please @desert trench

sinful kettle Oct 4, 2020, 6:43 PM

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Done:
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154207

desert trench Oct 4, 2020, 6:44 PM

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ty

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btw i read multiple reports of A3 FT not registering new reports in recent days

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Recent Activity seems broken at least

wraith sapphire Oct 4, 2020, 6:49 PM

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^ please, create a FT

solid marten Oct 4, 2020, 8:04 PM

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Going to add unicode variant copyToClipboardW and copyFromClipboardW as just changing current command to Unicode might cause backward incompatibility

gray wharf Oct 4, 2020, 8:05 PM

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ouch!
(what does the W stand for?)

solid marten Oct 4, 2020, 8:05 PM

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wide char

gray wharf Oct 4, 2020, 8:06 PM

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thankie 👍

sterile nova Oct 5, 2020, 7:02 AM

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@long rain yes, 5th LOD has only selection for kolP5 & P4 and no for P3

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There are also various wrong assignment in tracks named selections but that is less visible

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Anyway, added it to my 2.02 fixes list

long rain Oct 5, 2020, 10:47 AM

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yay thanks 😄

unborn acorn Oct 5, 2020, 11:34 AM

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I updated the ticket
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T153971 [Fri, Oct 2]
Not sure the change was published so I am writing here

unborn acorn Oct 5, 2020, 12:51 PM

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And this https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154021 can be quickly fixed, so please

sleek scaffold Oct 5, 2020, 3:09 PM

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@sinful kettle Hey partner, I've been trying to make a post on the Feedback Tracker as a "Feature Request" yet the only option I get are "Bug Reports". Do I have to customize it or something? I want to request a "ProjectilePassedNear" eventhandler. Currently if you want to detect when a bulled passer near or landed near a unit requires a very resource intensive scripted workaround. The "FiredNear" EH is not usable because it has a limited range and it considers the origin on the projectile and not the projectile per se.

sinful kettle Oct 5, 2020, 3:11 PM

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Hey. You can use the Bug Reports tickets as feature requests as well.

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Just set the category to "Feature Request"

naive ledge Oct 5, 2020, 3:11 PM

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🤔 that's good idea, I'd like to use that too for civilian AI. Previously I used danger.fsm as workaround as it gets triggered by bullets flying by. 🤔

sinful kettle Oct 5, 2020, 3:12 PM

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I don't believe there's an "event" defined for that though

sleek scaffold Oct 5, 2020, 3:12 PM

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Hey. You can use the Bug Reports tickets as feature requests as well.
@sinful kettle THANK YOU!

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I don't believe there's an "event" defined for that though
@sinful kettle Yeah and that is why I want to request it. It would be godsend for applying suppression effects on units being fired upon, including additional effects for Ai like reduced skill, increased allowFleeing cowardice etc, unit surrender and/or reaction to being fired upon etc.

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🤔 that's good idea, I'd like to use that too for civilian AI. Previously I used danger.fsm as workaround as it gets triggered by bullets flying by. 🤔
@naive ledge Yeah, one of the workarounds but I believe other variables can also trigger danger.fsm other than bullets

naive ledge Oct 5, 2020, 3:17 PM

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My point was that it's in the engine already if it can trigger danger.fsm

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Thus would be cool to have event handler for this

sinful kettle Oct 5, 2020, 3:17 PM

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It's not an "event" that can be triggered. Bullet near = bullet moving when it's close to an object. So it requires dynamic calculation. So it's not an "event"

gray wharf Oct 5, 2020, 3:18 PM

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it is an event the moment it gets intercepted by the engine

sinful kettle Oct 5, 2020, 3:19 PM

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Well, how would you intercept it?

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Run a check against all units every frame?

naive ledge Oct 5, 2020, 3:19 PM

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Well, how would you intercept it?
Doesn't matter since we already know that it gets intercepted by the engine

sinful kettle Oct 5, 2020, 3:19 PM

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It doesn't

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danger.fsm is not part of the engine

naive ledge Oct 5, 2020, 3:20 PM

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Engine calls it

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danger.fsm is like a script but an fsm

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it gets data from engine

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anyway you know that AIs react to bullets flying by, right? Another proof that it gets intercepted by the engine.

sleek scaffold Oct 5, 2020, 3:20 PM

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If a bullet triggers a change in the danger fsm then it is intercepted by the fsm, therefore could also be done by an EH

sinful kettle Oct 5, 2020, 3:20 PM

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meh I'm already 100% sure it won't get implemented. So you can say whatever you want

naive ledge Oct 5, 2020, 3:22 PM

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Well, how would you intercept it?

I show proof that it gets intercepted

meh I'm already 100% sure it won't get implemented. So you can say whatever you want
Good discussion 😇

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Only downside, 'a bullet flew by' is such a frequent event that it will have slight performance impact to dispatch events all the time, or even to check if the object has any event handlers attached at all.

sinful kettle Oct 5, 2020, 3:29 PM

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It will have a massive performance impact. Not "slight"

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exactly why I say it won't be implemented

sleek scaffold Oct 5, 2020, 3:30 PM

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Any idea how games like Squad circumvent that performance impact while still tracking each buller?

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Additionally, we could check the Danger.fsm part that intercepts the bullets... because in theory that performance impact is already happening by the danger.fsm check, not need to duplicate it

naive ledge Oct 5, 2020, 3:30 PM

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It will have a massive performance impact. Not "slight"
exactly why I say it won't be implemented
Well I don't see you explaining this anywhere before my message 🤷

sinful kettle Oct 5, 2020, 3:31 PM

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I was gonna type it but didnt

naive ledge Oct 5, 2020, 3:32 PM

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Additionally, we could check the Danger.fsm part that intercepts the bullets... because in theory that performance impact is already happening by the danger.fsm check, not need to duplicate it
Yeah you are right actually... it is already checking if danger.fsm is present 🤷

gray wharf Oct 5, 2020, 3:37 PM

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→ the AI already reacts to flying bullets
→ we ask for an EH to be triggered by it
→ ????
→ profit

…I don't see where the issue is since the detection already exists?

solid marten Oct 5, 2020, 3:38 PM

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the AI already reacts to flying bullets
???

gray wharf Oct 5, 2020, 3:38 PM

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are you telling me it doesn't 🤔

solid marten Oct 5, 2020, 3:39 PM

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I dunno, does it?

gray wharf Oct 5, 2020, 3:40 PM

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well from my testings (maybe some games ago) it does yes
even a suppressed shot, if it goes by, is detected

desert trench Oct 5, 2020, 3:40 PM

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only impacts AFAIK

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but its been a while i debugged it

gray wharf Oct 5, 2020, 3:41 PM

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don't make me start Arma again…!

naive ledge Oct 5, 2020, 3:43 PM

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…I don't see where the issue is since the detection already exists?
well, apart from detection code, now the game must also access the array of event handlers attached to object and see if it's not empty. I guess impact is quite small 🤷

sinful kettle Oct 5, 2020, 3:44 PM

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player addEventHandler ["FiredMan", { 
 _projectile = _this#6; 
 _p = eyePos ttt vectorAdd [0,-500,0]; 
 _projectile setPosWorld _p; 
 _projectile setVectorDirAndUp [[0,1,0],[0,0,1]]; 
 _projectile setVelocity [3,800,3]; 
 switchCamera _projectile; 
 projectile = _projectile; 
 onEachFrame { 
  if (!alive projectile) exitWith {switchCamera player; onEachFrame ""}; 
 }; 
 
}]

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here's proof that it doesn't exist

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Go in VR

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Place a player and an AI called "ttt"

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Go somewhere away from it

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Fire

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The AI doesn't do anything

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Hence my point

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The engine uses a "trick" for that

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I could tell you what it is but I'll let you figure it out on your own

gray wharf Oct 5, 2020, 3:45 PM

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my test:

place a player
player an enemy 64m away
shoot at your feet (AI doesn't react)
shoot near the AI in the sky (AI reacts)

naive ledge Oct 5, 2020, 3:46 PM

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I could tell you what it is but you should know
@sinful kettle please tell us

sinful kettle Oct 5, 2020, 3:46 PM

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That's a wrong test

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You're still "pointing" at the AI. That's the hint

naive ledge Oct 5, 2020, 3:47 PM

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So I guess it checks if someone fired in a sort of a several-degrees cone around the AI?

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If I understood you correctly

sinful kettle Oct 5, 2020, 3:47 PM

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You're close

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There's another parameter involved

gray wharf Oct 5, 2020, 3:47 PM

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what a suspense 🍿

sinful kettle Oct 5, 2020, 3:49 PM

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In short this is how the engine does that:

gets all units that are in range of the projectile within it's "cone"
It approximates the flight time up to the AI.
It tells the AI to react if projectile lived up to that time

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That's how I do it for my AI at least

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The above test proves that the process is almost identical for the vanilla AI

naive ledge Oct 5, 2020, 3:50 PM

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That's how I do it for my AI at least
Do you mean that you have programmed this algorithm below in SQF?

gets all units that are in range of the projectile within it's "cone"

It approximates the flight time up to the AI.

It tells the AI to react if projectile lived up to that time

sinful kettle Oct 5, 2020, 3:50 PM

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yes

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For my AI

naive ledge Oct 5, 2020, 3:51 PM

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And you are trying to persuade us that we don't need such an event handler?

sinful kettle Oct 5, 2020, 3:51 PM

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We do

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But I'm saying it can't be done the way you suggested

naive ledge Oct 5, 2020, 3:52 PM

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I am just suggesting that we get an event handler to whichever way the engine uses to detect bullet fly-by, even if it's faking it 🤔

sinful kettle Oct 5, 2020, 3:52 PM

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That's the thing

gray wharf Oct 5, 2020, 3:52 PM

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player addEventHandler ["FiredMan", {  
 deleteVehicle (_this select 6);
}];
```😏

sleek scaffold Oct 5, 2020, 3:52 PM

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But I'm saying it can't be done the way you suggested
@sinful kettle Any way that is faster than our workarounds is good enough! 👍

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The applications for such EH are huge!

naive ledge Oct 5, 2020, 3:55 PM

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I guess that true bullet flyby detection makes no sense, approximation is quite good for all cases. Nobody uses a weapon which fires in such a cone that you need to aim 45 degrees above your target. Therefore the cone can be quite narrow.

gray wharf Oct 5, 2020, 3:55 PM

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player removeAllEventHandlers "FiredMan";
player addEventHandler ["FiredMan", {  
  BULLET = _this select 6;
  onEachFrame { if (BULLET distance player > 2) then { deleteVehicle BULLET; onEachFrame {} }; };
}];
```so yeah, with this test even after leaving some lifetime the bullet "virtual trajectory" is ignored.
What I guess is, _if_ it is done that way in the engine, that it checks every possible/plausible frame for the next trajectory.

it also means that whatever the engine is using, hooking on it is less expensive than having our own approximative stuff

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Nobody uses a weapon which fires in such a cone that you need to aim 45 degrees above your target.
(suppressed) sniper rifles at long distance… 🤷‍♂️

naive ledge Oct 5, 2020, 3:57 PM

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(suppressed) sniper rifles at long distance… 🤷‍♂️
I'd assume elevation to be much lower than 45 degrees 😄

sinful kettle Oct 5, 2020, 3:57 PM

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It is

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due to drag

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45 degrees is for flight in void

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plus, the projectile will most likely be dead before then (they have a limited lifetime, typically 6s)

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@gray wharf

with this test even after leaving some lifetime the bullet "virtual trajectory" is ignored.
What I guess is, if it is done that way in the engine, that it checks every possible/plausible frame for the next trajectory.
You're killing the projectile too early

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It tells the AI to react if projectile lived up to that time

gray wharf Oct 5, 2020, 4:00 PM

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so it is a looping check during the bullet's lifetime

sinful kettle Oct 5, 2020, 4:00 PM

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no

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it's a one time process

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_reachTime = time + _flightTime

when projectile is dead:

_endTime = time;

for AI:

if (_endTime >= _reachTime) then {//flyby
}

sleek scaffold Oct 5, 2020, 4:03 PM

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_unit addEventHandler ["Fired",
    {
       params ["_unit", "_weapon", "", "", "", "", "_projectile", "_vehicle"];
_target = assignedTarget _unit;
_tgtDis = _target distance _unit;
if (_tgtDis > 1000) exitWith {};
_list = [];
_start = ASLToAGL eyePos _unit;
_pos0 = _unit modelToWorld [0,0.1,0.1];
_rdmTgtX = selectRandom [0,0.05,0.1,0.2];
_rdmTgtY = selectRandom [0,0.05,0.1,0.2];
_rdmTgtZ = selectRandom [0,0.05,0.1,0.2];
_pos1 = _target modelToWorld [_rdmTgtX,_rdmTgtY,_rdmTgtZ];
_multi = _pos0 vectorDistance _pos1;
_wdir = _unit weaponDirection currentWeapon _unit;
_hitPos = (_start vectorAdd (_wdir vectorMultiply _multi));
if (spDebug) then {drawLine3D [_start, _hitPos, [1,0,0,1]];};
if(_hitPos distance _unit > 20 && _hitPos distance _target < _hitRadius)then{
_list = _hitPos nearEntities ["MAN",_hitRadius];
{
  if (isPlayer _x) then {
  [] remoteExecCall ["SppEffects",_x];
  _x setVariable ["Suppressed",true];
  };
} forEach _list;
};
}];
> ```

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What I do...

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Only works for Ai vs Player but does the job

sinful kettle Oct 5, 2020, 4:06 PM

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This is turning into the #arma3_scripting channel! 😂

gray wharf Oct 5, 2020, 4:07 PM

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(no lineintersect thing though) but ok

sleek scaffold Oct 5, 2020, 4:09 PM

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(no lineintersect thing though) but ok
@gray wharf I did that script 2 years ago when I didn't know about linesintersectwith... need to update that script if an official solution is not posible

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On the full script I added many exit conditions previous to the calculations so it does not saturates the scheduler

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if ((currentWeapon _unit) isEqualTo (secondaryWeapon _unit)) exitWith {if (spHints) then {hint "sideArm fire";};}; //sideArms cannot suppress.
if ((currentWeapon _unit) isEqualTo (handgunWeapon _unit)) exitWith {if (spHints) then {hint "sideArm fire";};}; //sideArms cannot suppress.
if (isNull _target) exitWith {if (spHints) then {hint "no target!";};}; //no target    
if !(isPlayer _target) exitWith {if (spHints) then {hint "target not player";};}; //target not player
if !(isNull objectParent _target) exitWith {if (spHints) then {hint "target not on foot!";};}; //player in vehicle cannot be suppressed
if (isNil {_target getVariable "Suppressed"}) then {_target setVariable ["Suppressed",false];};
_isSuppressed = _target getVariable "Suppressed";
if (_isSuppressed) exitWith {if (spHints) then {hint "already suppressed!";};}; // target already being suppressed.
if (stance _target isEqualTo "PRONE") then { if (random 2 > 1) exitWith {if (spHints) then {hint "target PRONE!";};}; };```

sinful kettle Oct 5, 2020, 4:15 PM

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I also discovered something interesting. If the projectile dies right next to the unit, the unit does react.

sleek scaffold Oct 5, 2020, 4:16 PM

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I also discovered something interesting. If the projectile dies right next to the unit, the unit does react.
@sinful kettle That is a godsend for my suppression efforts!

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@sinful kettle Since you clearly understand the need and the technical aspects of it could you post it on the Feedback Tracker?

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My english is quite limited and I don't want the feature request to be dismissed because of some stupid grammatical error or something...

naive ledge Oct 5, 2020, 4:20 PM

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Your English is totally fine @sleek scaffold

gray wharf Oct 5, 2020, 4:29 PM

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Yes, let's get this channel back to #arma3_feedback_tracker 😄

naive ledge Oct 5, 2020, 4:37 PM

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_reachTime = time + _flightTime

when projectile is dead:

_endTime = time;

for AI:

if (_endTime >= _reachTime) then {//flyby
}

It's not exactly like that, in my test the AI gets triggered before the bullet is destroyed.

sinful kettle Oct 5, 2020, 4:37 PM

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I'm starting to think that I may have been wrong about that! 😅
I mean what I said works but it might not be how the engine does it.
I get conflicting results from different tests.

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Yeah

naive ledge Oct 5, 2020, 4:38 PM

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But the base approximation is still good anyway

solid marten Oct 5, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Just tested Suppressed EH, it fires for player and AI, quite promising

sinful kettle Oct 5, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Sweet

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So how does it measure suppression? Does it track the bullet in real time or is it similar to the method I suggested?

solid marten Oct 5, 2020, 4:44 PM

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There is an event bullet close

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each bullet has suppression params like radius within which it causes suppression, also the weight of the bullet makes difference to the amount of suppression

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and distance

sinful kettle Oct 5, 2020, 4:47 PM

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Does this event handler also detect fly-bys?

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I think it only triggers when the bullet hits somewhere right?

solid marten Oct 5, 2020, 4:49 PM

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it detects bullet close at the moment. I just tried concept, in theory there is an event however this needs to be looked closer

sinful kettle Oct 5, 2020, 4:49 PM

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ah ok

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Do you want me to create a ticket?

solid marten Oct 5, 2020, 4:49 PM

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yes please

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the hit is not considered bullet close though quite interesting only bullets that pass by

naive ledge Oct 5, 2020, 4:55 PM

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I guess it's more reliable to check bullet fly-by since impact has a preceding fly-by anyway 🤔

sinful kettle Oct 5, 2020, 4:57 PM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154215

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@sleek scaffold 👆 in case you didn't create one already!

solid marten Oct 5, 2020, 5:00 PM

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a bullet whistling effect would be dope

azure wharf Oct 5, 2020, 5:27 PM

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or screen blur from nearby shots
also, is anyones recent activity on the tracker not up to date? Mine is last updated on Sept 27 after clearing cookies too

sleek scaffold Oct 5, 2020, 6:11 PM

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@sleek scaffold 👆 in case you didn't create one already!
@sinful kettle You my friend ROCK! Thank you

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a bullet whistling effect would be dope
KK If you help us with the EH I am sure we will have such feature and many more in no time! 😉

sterile nova Oct 5, 2020, 7:03 PM

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a bullet whistling effect would be dope there is already fly by parameter in ammo config?

gray wharf Oct 5, 2020, 7:07 PM

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there is bullet crack afaik

sterile nova Oct 5, 2020, 7:47 PM

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I mean fly by, pretty sure I've used it in Contact

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soundSetBulletFly[] = {"bulletFlyBy_SoundSet"};

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    sound need to be subsonic
    is only played when bullet is flying in player (camera) direction
    Minimal hit value is 1 (pytanie)
        const float BulletSoundManager::HitValue = 1.0f;
    limited by square of 5 (~2.23)
        const float BulletSoundManager::FlybyDistance = 5.0f;

        Setting it to i.e. 25 seems to yield much better results - perhaps this variable could be some sort of ammo parameter?``` some my personal notes about using it

sleek scaffold Oct 5, 2020, 8:20 PM

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I mean fly by, pretty sure I've used it in Contact
@sterile nova Perhaps one feature request can spawn multiple improvements to the engine... or at least a few Wiki pages on previously unknown/undocumented features of the engine.

sinful kettle Oct 6, 2020, 3:41 AM

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Feature request:
Can we get a separate color for RscEdit caret?

unborn acorn Oct 6, 2020, 4:38 AM

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Russian localization issues
"ChestrigF" - https://feedback.bistudio.com/T153153
Bargates - https://feedback.bistudio.com/T152797
"Land_File_F" - https://feedback.bistudio.com/T152754

sinful kettle Oct 6, 2020, 6:31 AM

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~~Issue with parseText: It can't parse text containing "&":~~

parseText "&&"

gives: ?

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Actually, nevermind

alpine tulip Oct 6, 2020, 6:33 AM

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Yeah, &

sinful kettle Oct 6, 2020, 6:33 AM

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yeah

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I just realized that!

desert trench Oct 6, 2020, 7:10 AM

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is anyone working on to fix the FT activity? or how/who to report it?

livid obsidian Oct 6, 2020, 7:36 AM

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Re: Bullet tracking
I used a perFrame handler for every bullet for my suppress mod, though it only checks for players. Performance is okay, but I guess stacking multiple trackings can impact Performance negatively. And making it work for AI is a different thing, of course

Re: Bullet flyby sounds
ArmA has bullet flyBy sounds since forever, the projectile obviously needs to be subsonic though. Try the asp Kir, it's subsonic afaik

gray wharf Oct 6, 2020, 7:40 AM

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can impact Performance negatively
offtopic, but performance impacts are often negative 😢

daring wagon Oct 6, 2020, 9:58 AM

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Just out of curiousity, is it normal that scrolling in a treeView or listbox becomes slower the more one scrolls down (with a lot of entries that is). As a non programmer I would expect it not to slow down since the amount of displayed entries stays the same.

solid marten Oct 6, 2020, 9:59 AM

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it is not normal but this is how it is implemented

daring wagon Oct 6, 2020, 9:59 AM

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hmm ok, guess that's nothing you wish to tackle in the future ?

solid marten Oct 6, 2020, 10:00 AM

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not touching this too risky

daring wagon Oct 6, 2020, 10:00 AM

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Ah ok, thanks for the answer.

solid marten Oct 6, 2020, 10:02 AM

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we simply don’t have resources to properly test every change between releases so only safe changes are go

daring wagon Oct 6, 2020, 10:04 AM

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Yeah, I get that. I am already happy the game still gets so much love after 7 years 🙂

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154222 A feature request for Eden Editor. If you have questions let me know.

solid marten Oct 6, 2020, 10:24 AM

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maybe better solution is to preserve custom attributes if present?

daring wagon Oct 6, 2020, 10:26 AM

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Maybe, but what if someone wants to get rid of them intentionally?

solid marten Oct 6, 2020, 10:26 AM

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also how exactly these EHs will stop you from saving mission in default editor?

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would be better if you provided examples of when it goes wrong

daring wagon Oct 6, 2020, 10:28 AM

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Damn, right. I need a mod to add the EH 🤦

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maybe better solution is to preserve custom attributes if present?
This seems to be the only way then.

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Maybe just an optional warning if someone tries to save a mission without the editor mods?

solid marten Oct 6, 2020, 10:29 AM

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i need to know more so concrete examples would help to investigate possible solution

daring wagon Oct 6, 2020, 10:30 AM

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What exactly you need to know?

solid marten Oct 6, 2020, 10:30 AM

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yes warning is one way of doing it

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example of custom attributes that get wiped out

daring wagon Oct 6, 2020, 10:34 AM

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I updated the ticket with an example

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I added a full mission.sqm so you can see all custom attribute.

gray wharf Oct 6, 2020, 7:38 PM

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getPosVisual takes twice as much time as ASLToAGL getPosASLVisual for the exact same result…

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same for getPos/ASLToAGL getPosASL

vocal abyss Oct 6, 2020, 8:47 PM

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I spy with my little eye three new Steam achievements for 2.00

sinful kettle Oct 7, 2020, 2:38 AM

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I got two of them today! I was shocked!

restive bone Oct 7, 2020, 7:03 AM

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👀 Gonna have to take a look at those later

daring wagon Oct 7, 2020, 7:50 AM

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Seems like CfgSentences has quite a few undefined stringtable entries. Not sure if there something that can be done about it

 9:49:12 String STR_A3_to_c01_m01_065_eve_patrol_a_SOLDIER_01_0 not found
 9:49:12 String STR_A3_to_c01_m01_065_eve_patrol_a_SOLDIER_02_0 not found
 9:49:12 String STR_A3_to_c01_m01_066_eve_patrol_b_SOLDIER_01_0 not found
 9:49:12 String STR_A3_to_c01_m01_066_eve_patrol_b_SOLDIER_02_0 not found
 9:49:12 String STR_A3_to_c01_m01_066_eve_patrol_b_SOLDIER_01_1 not found
 9:49:12 String STR_A3_to_c01_m01_066_eve_patrol_b_SOLDIER_02_1 not found
 9:49:12 String STR_A3_to_c01_m01_066_eve_patrol_b_SOLDIER_01_2 not found
 9:49:12 String STR_A3_to_c01_m01_066_eve_patrol_b_SOLDIER_01_3 not found
 9:49:12 String STR_A3_to_c01_m01_067_eve_sentry_a_SOLDIER_01_0 not found
 9:49:12 String STR_A3_to_c01_m01_067_eve_sentry_a_SOLDIER_01_1 not found
 9:49:12 String STR_A3_to_c01_m01_067_eve_sentry_a_SOLDIER_02_0 not found
 9:49:12 String STR_A3_to_c01_m01_067_eve_sentry_a_SOLDIER_01_2 not found
 9:49:12 String STR_A3_to_c01_m01_068_eve_surprised_a_SOLDIER_01_0 not found
 9:49:12 String STR_A3_to_c01_m01_069_eve_surprised_b_SOLDIER_02_0 not found
 9:49:13 String STR_A3_to_c03_m03_007_br_briefing_c__1 not found
 9:49:13 String STR_A3_to_c03_m03_041_eve_ctrg_rv_alone_FALCON_0 not found
 9:49:13 String STR_A3_to_c03_m03_041_eve_ctrg_rv_alone_FALCON_1 not found
 9:49:13 String STR_A3_to_c03_m03_041_eve_ctrg_rv_alone_FALCON_2 not found
 9:49:13 String STR_A3_oldman_233_ex_vehicle_destroyed_PLAYER_0 not found
 9:49:13 String STR_A3_oldman_233_ex_vehicle_destroyed_PLAYER_1 not found
 9:49:13 String STR_A3_oldman_233_ex_vehicle_destroyed_PLAYER_2 not found

solid marten Oct 7, 2020, 7:55 AM

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is this in RC? @daring wagon

daring wagon Oct 7, 2020, 8:04 AM

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Yes

solid marten Oct 7, 2020, 8:08 AM

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What do you do to trigger the errors? @daring wagon

daring wagon Oct 7, 2020, 8:10 AM

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I wrote a script which scans through CfgSentences and reads the text, textPlain and sound path of the sentences

solid marten Oct 7, 2020, 8:10 AM

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getPosVisual takes twice as much time as ASLToAGL getPosASLVisual for the exact same result…
cant confirm

daring wagon Oct 7, 2020, 8:12 AM

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Yeah ```Result:
0.0235 ms

Cycles:
10000/10000

Code:
getPosVisual player

Result:
0.0204 ms

Cycles:
10000/10000

Code:
ASLToAGL getPosASLVisual player```

solid marten Oct 7, 2020, 8:12 AM

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same here

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BTW use getTextRaw and isLocalized

daring wagon Oct 7, 2020, 8:13 AM

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getTextRaw is on RC now?

solid marten Oct 7, 2020, 8:13 AM

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dunno but if not then for the future

daring wagon Oct 7, 2020, 8:13 AM

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Yeah, will do. Thanks

gray wharf Oct 7, 2020, 8:17 AM

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it is iirc

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as for the getPos thing, I had 0.042 vs 0.022 Oo

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time to change CPU?

solid marten Oct 7, 2020, 8:29 AM

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I have similar times, getpos is not exactly the same as ASLtoAGL getPosASL

waxen tundra Oct 7, 2020, 8:35 AM

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important note: make sure to include as many as possible from following :```

reproduction steps
RPT and other logs (compressed, ideally .7z or .zip)
crash dumps (compressed, ideally .7z or .zip)
screenshots
videos etc.
simple to the point description```
when writing ticket into A3FT , most of time no-reproduction results into no-fix !

waxen tundra Oct 7, 2020, 8:35 AM

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waxen tundra important note: make sure to include as many as possible from following :``` + r...

sinful kettle Oct 7, 2020, 9:10 AM

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@daring wagon getPosVisual doesn't give the same result as ASLToAGL getPosASLVisual

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It's in AGLS format

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ASLToAGL getPosASLVisual is in AGL format

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To verify, just go to the second floor of a building

gray wharf Oct 7, 2020, 9:12 AM

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I always forget about it (and I am the one who did report, not R3vo ^^)

sinful kettle Oct 7, 2020, 9:12 AM

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Oh

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lol

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Yeah

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I saw killzone replying to something right below R3vo's comment

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@daring wagon Sorry! 😅

gray wharf Oct 7, 2020, 9:14 AM

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and he kept pinging him :U 🤣

restive bone Oct 7, 2020, 9:14 AM

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heh Saying sorry for the ping with another ping

sinful kettle Oct 7, 2020, 9:15 AM

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The damage was already done! notlikemeow

gray wharf Oct 7, 2020, 9:22 AM

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ah, well…
@daring wagon

daring wagon Oct 7, 2020, 9:22 AM

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No problem @daring wagon

sinful kettle Oct 7, 2020, 11:01 AM

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Anywhooo

~~Feature Request: Is it possible to add a command that changes the RscControlsGroup current view position? (i.e. moves the slider positions)~~

tulip shard Oct 7, 2020, 11:02 AM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/ctrlSetScrollValues ?

sinful kettle Oct 7, 2020, 11:05 AM

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It works! Thank you!

sinful kettle Oct 7, 2020, 11:46 AM

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Is it a bug that count counts each non-ASCII character as more than one (depending on range)?

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For example, Cyrillic and accented latin letters count twice

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And Japanese/Chinese/Korean chars count 3 times

gray wharf Oct 7, 2020, 11:48 AM

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sounds like ANSI/UTF8 issue yes

sinful kettle Oct 7, 2020, 11:51 AM

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This also breaks select

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154225

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The only solution is count toArray "我"

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and: toString (toArray "我" select [0,1])

gray wharf Oct 7, 2020, 12:25 PM

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KK is on it ^^

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thou hast been spotted! 👀

sinful kettle Oct 7, 2020, 12:37 PM

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Who?!

gray wharf Oct 7, 2020, 12:38 PM

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Such a lust for revenge!!

sinful kettle Oct 7, 2020, 12:38 PM

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😅

sleek scaffold Oct 7, 2020, 1:54 PM

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Guys, I am thinking about posting a new suggestion on the Feedback Tracker but want your opinions on the matter first.

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Subject: 3D world Nametags.

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You see how many mods including ACE and now DUI - Squad Radar offer nametags solutions that most players use on their missions.

sterile nova Oct 7, 2020, 1:56 PM

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I think there was some prototype of Squad Radar & nametags available in devbranch for some time - no idea why it was dropped though

sleek scaffold Oct 7, 2020, 1:56 PM

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I have my own scripted solution using oneachframe and drawIcon3D

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but is very expensive in terms of frames

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here is my dilemma...

gray wharf Oct 7, 2020, 1:57 PM

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the squad radar existed but was retired once custom panels arrived @sterile nova - the BIS_fnc is still out there iirc

sleek scaffold Oct 7, 2020, 1:57 PM

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Arma 3 already has Name Tags, as soon as you go into expectator mode you get amazing name tags

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yet there is no way to enable them outside of expectator mode...

sterile nova Oct 7, 2020, 1:58 PM

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https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/140837-development-branch-changelog/?do=findComment&comment=3041549

sleek scaffold Oct 7, 2020, 1:58 PM

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why is that limitation?

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Considering working nametags are already in and perform much better than any modded/scripted solution

sterile nova Oct 7, 2020, 1:59 PM

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aren't those specator nametags also scripted?

gray wharf Oct 7, 2020, 1:59 PM

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@sleek scaffold the trick is to not calculate data in the eachFrame EH

sleek scaffold Oct 7, 2020, 2:00 PM

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@sleek scaffold the trick is to not calculate data in the eachFrame EH
@gray wharf Yeah I know, doing it the way ACE does

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Yet still my question stands...

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If there are already name tags in Arma 3

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Why should be rely on mods or scripts when the functionality is clearly there?

gray wharf Oct 7, 2020, 2:01 PM

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you're simply asking to have the nametag Splendid\™ Camera function accessible

sleek scaffold Oct 7, 2020, 2:02 PM

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All that is needed are perhaps description.ext commands to enable them in your mission for team mates, side, just your squad etc

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Yeah exactly... the one you get when you press escape and click spectate

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it is already there... and I get no performance degradation by it being there when in spectator mode

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While most other solution do impact performance somewhat...

gray wharf Oct 7, 2020, 2:03 PM

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BIS_fnc_groupIndicator
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/BIS_fnc_groupIndicator
Reyhard

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(https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Description.ext#showSquadRadar disabled since custom panels)

daring wagon Oct 7, 2020, 2:06 PM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Category:Command_Group:_High_Command There are also the group icon commands.

Category:Command Group: High Command

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the squad radar existed but was retired once custom panels arrived - the BIS_fnc is still out there iirc
Yeah, but it was never realy implemented into the custom panels right?

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Sorry for the mention, was a quote

gray wharf Oct 7, 2020, 2:07 PM

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yep, it just vanished

daring wagon Oct 7, 2020, 2:08 PM

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Kinda sad, was a great feature.

gray wharf Oct 7, 2020, 2:08 PM

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it would need only a little to get it back 🙂

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only proper positiioning and that's it, enough for a vanilla setup

daring wagon Oct 7, 2020, 2:08 PM

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And some editor settings to customize it 😄

gray wharf Oct 7, 2020, 2:09 PM

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Thank you for volunteering, we are expecting your project (and total) submission by midnight :p

daring wagon Oct 7, 2020, 2:10 PM

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Why should I submit myself ? 😄

gray wharf Oct 7, 2020, 2:10 PM

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*whipcrack* don't ask.

naive ledge Oct 7, 2020, 2:11 PM

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I guess the impact of scripted name tags is quite small compared to overall game's questionable frame rate, with the current amount of people assigned to arma 3.

sterile nova Oct 7, 2020, 2:12 PM

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as for specator mode - keep in mind that when you are going to specator mode, your view distance is reduced to 1km

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so that might influence FPS

daring wagon Oct 7, 2020, 2:13 PM

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Just out of curiosity, what's wrong with the vanilla name tags?

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Just the lack of customizability?

desert trench Oct 7, 2020, 3:26 PM

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i think the way forward is to have a concise FT request with relevant scripting commands to allow customization

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as said the engine already has the underlying tech since OFP

sleek scaffold Oct 7, 2020, 7:33 PM

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@desert trench can you materialize the FT request and I will follow/support it

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As will all of us here probably 🔫 * points gun at the other mission makers heads *

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Just out of curiosity, what's wrong with the vanilla name tags?
@daring wagon That and the fact that you can't use them outside of the spectator mode camera

desert trench Oct 7, 2020, 7:41 PM

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sorry my mind is too occupied with other matters

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it needs someone with good insights on engine capabilities and 3rd party scripted systems to judge whats actually needed as meaningful MVP (aka least effort for BI with maximum benefit for modding this)

sleek scaffold Oct 7, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Don't worry, I will continue my crusade to bring features already in the game to the mainstream audience... I lmay lack engine insights but I am stubborn and I learn fast 😅

daring wagon Oct 7, 2020, 10:10 PM

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@sleek scaffold I was talking about the nametags available through the difficulty menu. They work nicely already, "just" need some customisation capabilities.

sleek scaffold Oct 8, 2020, 12:06 AM

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@sleek scaffold I was talking about the nametags available through the difficulty menu. They work nicely already, "just" need some customisation capabilities.
@daring wagon So we must do a Feature Request on the Feedback Tracker about that customization right?

desert trench Oct 8, 2020, 2:54 AM

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it needs some thinking and discussion what sqf commands are needed to make it usable and flexible enough to replace the current scripted ones

daring wagon Oct 8, 2020, 7:28 AM

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@daring wagon So we must do a Feature Request on the Feedback Tracker about that customization right?
@sleek scaffold That's a question for a dev, but creating a ticket won't certainly hurt.

daring wagon Oct 8, 2020, 8:30 AM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T149837 Here is a ticket about Eden Editor's interface not getting initialised properly when the game starts directly inside a the editor via startup parameters.

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T141001 Also this ticket. I provided an easy fix for the issue (Although it's not fixing the core of it)

sinful kettle Oct 8, 2020, 11:28 AM

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So I'm not sure about this one, but I think setAttributes shouldn't change the original text, because it returns a value right?
Currently, it appears that it does:

_t = text "Hello ";
_a = [_t];
_b = [_t setAttributes ["color", "#ff0000"]];

hint (composeText (_a + _b))

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Both have the color red now

gray wharf Oct 8, 2020, 11:45 AM

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Yep, reported already

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Dedmen was on it iirc

sinful kettle Oct 8, 2020, 11:46 AM

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Oh look! The feedback tracker has been fixed! 😄

sinful kettle Oct 8, 2020, 12:01 PM

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Actually, can you NOT fix that please and instead add a new command that does the same thing with the exception that it creates a new text?

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This could cause incompatibility issues.

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Also, it has some very cool applications!

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_t = text "Hello "; 
_a = [_t]; 
_b = [_t setAttributes ["color", "#ff0000"]]; 
 
_tx= (composeText (_a + _b + [text "World"]));
_t setAttributes ["color", "#ffff00"];
hint _tx

It allows to change parts of the text color without "recomposing" it!

sinful kettle Oct 8, 2020, 1:33 PM

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It appears that the command is buggy and has memory management issues notlikemeow

tranquil harbor Oct 8, 2020, 1:52 PM

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on the note on nametags, Honestly wished there were customizable ones in arma, same as the radar. That stuff handled in engine would mean better performance.

sleek scaffold Oct 8, 2020, 2:22 PM

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@tranquil harbor It is a matter on who does the FT Request... devs have remained suspiciously silent despite we needing their input and thoughts about it... 😅

desert trench Oct 8, 2020, 2:35 PM

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i dont think the devs have a role in this right now - its up to "us" to analyze and provide a meaningful request

sleek scaffold Oct 8, 2020, 3:04 PM

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Guys give me your oppinions

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I was thinking about adding a Description.ext command

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Description.ext

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So you have for example: reviveMode = 1; // Default: 0

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And so we could suggest a new one...:

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showNameTags = 1; // Default: 0

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1 = Show for group members only

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2 = Show for whole side

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3 = Show for side + Other Friendly Sides

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And additionally we could have two other Commands

spare vine Oct 8, 2020, 3:10 PM

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but those are already set in the Difficulty settings, so why define them again?

sleek scaffold Oct 8, 2020, 3:13 PM

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but those are already set in the Difficulty settings, so why define them again?
@spare vine We are talking about Name Tags similar to those that appear on units (over their heads) when you go into Spectator mode and not the "class" hint that appear on the middle of friendly units when you aim at them.

spare vine Oct 8, 2020, 3:15 PM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_Difficulty_Menu (friendlyTags and enemyTags, mapContentFriendly and mapContentEnemy)

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so yes, it DOES exist to show nametags for friendly units

sleek scaffold Oct 8, 2020, 3:16 PM

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so yes, it DOES exist to show nametags for friendly units
@spare vine Can you link a image of it?

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I am 90% sure those are not Name Tags in the sense of what ACE provides

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Otherwise Ace Players would just use the ones you say

spare vine Oct 8, 2020, 3:17 PM

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try it out yourself

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and otherwise it's not supported at all, and only with ACE/etc

sleek scaffold Oct 8, 2020, 3:18 PM

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Also, those work only when you aim at the units... we need them to be on at all times like Name Tags work on the spectator mode... so that alone makes them not similar/comparable

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Additionally we need name tags that work independently form the difficulty settings

daring wagon Oct 8, 2020, 3:19 PM

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I am against introducing yet another system.

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Names tags don't need to work independently from the diff settings at all

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Plays can just define if they want them to show or not that way.

spare vine Oct 8, 2020, 3:20 PM

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but tested right now; it shows the unit name (if exists, otherwise role) when pointing at them

gray wharf Oct 8, 2020, 3:21 PM

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why not -just- a function, of course - the issue is that the game is more or less data-locked right now, maybe later

spare vine Oct 8, 2020, 3:21 PM

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wouldn't make sense to always have them above someone's head (bit annoying where there's a group of people...)

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functions already exists, see ACE

daring wagon Oct 8, 2020, 3:22 PM

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0 - Always
1 - only when hovering / aiming at the unit
2 - On keypress show all

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problem solved

spare vine Oct 8, 2020, 3:23 PM

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and how about "within distance"? to prevent seeing names at 2km?

daring wagon Oct 8, 2020, 3:23 PM

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That's already the case grez

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see diff settings

sleek scaffold Oct 8, 2020, 3:23 PM

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I am against introducing yet another system.
@daring wagon They would not be intruding another system, it is already in the game!

spare vine Oct 8, 2020, 3:23 PM

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... I know

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so if it's already in there... why add something new?

daring wagon Oct 8, 2020, 3:24 PM

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@daring wagon They would not be intruding another system, it is already in the game!
@sleek scaffold Talking about the spectator icons?

sleek scaffold Oct 8, 2020, 3:24 PM

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@sleek scaffold Talking about the spectator icons?
@daring wagon Yes sir

daring wagon Oct 8, 2020, 3:24 PM

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That system is fully scripted, no advantage over ace or similar script

sleek scaffold Oct 8, 2020, 3:26 PM

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Besides the fact that not 100% of the player base use ACE or similar scripts?

daring wagon Oct 8, 2020, 3:26 PM

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I am confused. I thought you were looking for an engine implemented system

sleek scaffold Oct 8, 2020, 3:26 PM

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I don't use ACE nor my players... and the scripted solutions are slow and cause scheduler issues in the long run

daring wagon Oct 8, 2020, 3:27 PM

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Yes, but why are you looking at the spectator script then.

spare vine Oct 8, 2020, 3:27 PM

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but Spectator is also scripted 🤔

sleek scaffold Oct 8, 2020, 3:28 PM

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I am confused. I thought you were looking for an engine implemented system
@daring wagon I never said that, only that the Name Tag functionality is already on the base game (In scripted or any form) and that why would we require modded solutions when we already have the script in the base game files

daring wagon Oct 8, 2020, 3:28 PM

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Oh I see.

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Problem with the spectator script is, that it's really entangled into the spectator mode. Gonna be quite some work to make it work outside of it.

sleek scaffold Oct 8, 2020, 3:31 PM

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Problem with the spectator script is, that it's really entangled into the spectator mode. Gonna be quite some work to make it work outside of it.
@daring wagon Like checking the script for the part that handles the Name Tags, copying that part into a separate SQF file and enable its params to be accessible via description.ext

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?

daring wagon Oct 8, 2020, 3:32 PM

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NOpe

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no way 😄

spare vine Oct 8, 2020, 3:32 PM

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but that is something you can do yourself as well and have a simple script in your mission, or make a mod for it...

sleek scaffold Oct 8, 2020, 3:32 PM

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Can anyone point me to said script

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I will do it 😉

daring wagon Oct 8, 2020, 3:33 PM

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A3\functions_f_exp_a\EGSpectator\fn_EGSpectatorDraw3D.sqf

sleek scaffold Oct 8, 2020, 3:33 PM

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A3\functions_f_exp_a\EGSpectator\fn_EGSpectatorDraw3D.sqf
@daring wagon Thank you...

daring wagon Oct 8, 2020, 3:33 PM

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So what's wrong with the vanilla nametags from the difficulty menu?

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lack of customizability?

sleek scaffold Oct 8, 2020, 3:35 PM

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The ones that appear on the middle of the body making them hard to read, you have to aim at someone for them to work and additionally do not scale well at distance at all making them super hard to read? Those? No those are perfect 🙂

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😋

daring wagon Oct 8, 2020, 3:35 PM

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you are in #arma3_feedback_tracker why not open a ticket? Maybe it's something that can still be looked into.

sleek scaffold Oct 8, 2020, 3:37 PM

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I was on my way to doing that but got crushed in the process 😦

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I was asking what should we suggest to be able to customize about them and then BOOM!

spare vine Oct 8, 2020, 3:38 PM

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there's a difference between requesting a completely new feature which already exists (one way or another), or asking for a minor change in an existing feature for QOL

sleek scaffold Oct 8, 2020, 3:39 PM

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Well I didn't have access to the SQF file previously so I couldn't figure in what category this request would fall...

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That is why some of us asked for some Dev feedback

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But a day passed and we did not get one and some suggested that we should go forward with the request

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And then you crushed me

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😦

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@spare vine It is in your hands now... in your bloodied hands...

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🤣

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Just kidding... I guess I will be looking into this in another time

spare vine Oct 8, 2020, 3:41 PM

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I just told you that what you asked for already exits... that you actually want to do something else was not clear at that time...
And checking the wiki or going through the code yourself would have taught you how it works

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PS. this whole discussion is off-topic for this channel...

sleek scaffold Oct 8, 2020, 3:43 PM

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The Name Tags FEEDBACK TRACKER request body is not even cold yet and you are already dodging the bullet, well played Mr.

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😅

spare vine Oct 8, 2020, 3:44 PM

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Discussion about A3FT
not discussion about "maybe feature requests" 😛

daring wagon Oct 8, 2020, 3:45 PM

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Someone make a ticket quickly, so we don't get a warning 😄

desert trench Oct 8, 2020, 3:56 PM

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in the context of native name tags the only feasible stuff should be some sqf commands to manipulate the existing system

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like side, distance, color, text, etc

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thats why i suggested to compare it vs the scripted systems and determine whats essential to have to make those obsolete (besides perf considerations)

sinful kettle Oct 8, 2020, 8:55 PM

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ctrlTextSelection is broken and can cause crashes:
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154240

solid marten Oct 8, 2020, 10:48 PM

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@sinful kettle Is this in RC?

sinful kettle Oct 8, 2020, 10:53 PM

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No. Dev branch. Also updated the info on FT.
Aren't they nearly identical tho?

tulip shard Oct 8, 2020, 11:14 PM

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i had a similar thing on rc ^ using ctrlTextSelection in a mouseholding event. didnt realise it was ctrlTextSelection though.

solid marten Oct 8, 2020, 11:16 PM

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fixed it already. will update biki

solid marten Oct 8, 2020, 11:40 PM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/ctrlTextSelection

ctrlTextSelection

sinful kettle Oct 9, 2020, 7:21 AM

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Noice! If we could get an update this week it would be AWESOME! 🙏

solid marten Oct 9, 2020, 8:00 AM

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It appears that the command is buggy and has memory management issues
@sinful kettle could you elaborate on memory management issues?

sinful kettle Oct 9, 2020, 8:01 AM

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I think it might've been because of the ctrlTextSelection command.

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My bad

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I got crashes when I was trying to use setAttributes

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So at first I thought that command was responsible

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I was trying to highlight selected text so that's why

solid marten Oct 9, 2020, 8:06 AM

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ok we wait then. since ctrltextselection is in rc the fix should make it to stable

sinful kettle Oct 9, 2020, 9:51 AM

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Can you make select also accept negative length as well?

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Like

"abcd" select [3,-4]

to get:

"dcba"

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Or maybe an alternative command to avoid incompatibility with older scripts.

solid marten Oct 9, 2020, 10:03 AM

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Sounds like extremely niche usage, which you can already achieve if needed

_arr = "abcdefg" select [0, 4] splitString "";
reverse _arr;
_arr joinString "";

sinful kettle Oct 9, 2020, 10:03 AM

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isn't that a bit slow for long text?

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lets say 1000 chars

solid marten Oct 9, 2020, 10:04 AM

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performance only matters if you want to do this each frame
is this something people often need to do?

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Sounds like extremely niche usage,

sinful kettle Oct 9, 2020, 10:05 AM

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Ok

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fair point

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It appears that toArray/toString combo is faster

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Like 80% or so

solid marten Oct 9, 2020, 10:14 AM

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Like 80% or so
you sure?

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this means it is almost twice as fast

sinful kettle Oct 9, 2020, 10:18 AM

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It's even faster. Like 2.25 times.

t = "";
for "_i" from 0 to 1000 do {
t = t + " ";
};

and then:
0.18 ms

_a = t splitString "";
reverse _a;
_a joinString ""

0.078 ms

_a = toArray t;
reverse _a;
toString _a;

solid marten Oct 9, 2020, 10:24 AM

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I cannot confirm I have 30% difference at most. But this is expected, splitstring creates array of strings, strings are costly

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perhaps reverse can be tweaked to take string

sinful kettle Oct 9, 2020, 10:26 AM

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perhaps reverse can be tweaked to take string
yeah

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Did you try my example?

solid marten Oct 9, 2020, 10:26 AM

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yes 30 %

sinful kettle Oct 9, 2020, 10:26 AM

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maybe my CPU is too slow!

solid marten Oct 9, 2020, 10:27 AM

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bu te longer the strings the more strings splitstring has to create so it will be slower with length

gray wharf Oct 9, 2020, 1:24 PM

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and usually, a negative select would be used to get the end of a text, not reverse text ^^

sinful kettle Oct 9, 2020, 2:06 PM

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well, yeah

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It depends on how you look at it.
For example, in SQF:

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["hello", 4, -4] call {
  params ["_string", "_start", "_length"];
  _end = _start + _length; 
  _chars = toArray _string; 
  _select = []; 
  for "_i" from _start to _end step ([1,-1] select (_end < _start)) do { 
    _select pushBack _chars#_i; 
  }; 
  toString _select
};

solid marten Oct 9, 2020, 2:44 PM

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When you select text in edit box from right to left it doesnt reverse it

sinful kettle Oct 9, 2020, 2:49 PM

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I think this discussion was already settled...

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well, yeah
It depends on how you look at it.

gray wharf Oct 9, 2020, 3:15 PM

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from the front end, not the back end 😄

sinful kettle Oct 9, 2020, 3:16 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

daring wagon Oct 9, 2020, 3:59 PM

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perhaps reverse can be tweaked to take string
This is a good idea and probably the best solution.

sinful kettle Oct 9, 2020, 8:31 PM

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who just deleted that? It was feedback

gray wharf Oct 9, 2020, 8:32 PM

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I did, it was not?

sinful kettle Oct 9, 2020, 8:33 PM

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errors don't count as feedback?

gray wharf Oct 9, 2020, 8:33 PM

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as I said it is more of a Windows error, not an Arma one

sinful kettle Oct 9, 2020, 8:34 PM

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ok

daring wagon Oct 10, 2020, 7:45 AM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/selectDiarySubject Is this command still broken and if yes, any chance for a fix? All the other commands to handle the diary work fine.

selectDiarySubject

alpine tulip Oct 10, 2020, 7:47 AM

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Is there any VTOL vectoring-related commands more than action commands in A3? I think there's nothing, so I wanted to make a feature request ticket

solid marten Oct 10, 2020, 8:25 AM

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@daring wagon it was you who added the note https://community.bistudio.com/wiki?title=selectDiarySubject&diff=107872&oldid=107871

wiki

daring wagon Oct 10, 2020, 8:26 AM

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Good catch. Can't even remember. I gonna check what's exactly not working.

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Ah I see now. The function header had this information that the command was broken, so I just added a note to the commands description.

solid marten Oct 10, 2020, 8:28 AM

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without verifying? tsk tsk tsk

alpine tulip Oct 10, 2020, 8:43 AM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154256
blobcloseenjoy

gray wharf Oct 10, 2020, 8:45 AM

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isn't auto vectoring the "vertical stabiliser" for helicopter?

daring wagon Oct 10, 2020, 8:47 AM

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Can't get selectDiarySubject nor BIS_fnc_selectDiarySubject to do anything.

[] spawn 
{
  openMap true; 
  waitUntil {visibleMap && player diarySubjectExists "myPage"}; 
  systemChat "All ready";
  ["myPage"] call BIS_fnc_selectDiarySubject;
};```

Any advice?

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The subject was created before.

gray wharf Oct 10, 2020, 8:48 AM

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["diary", "mypage"]? no?

alpine tulip Oct 10, 2020, 8:48 AM

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@gray wharf Nope, Auto Vectoring is a feature for VTOL, does change the nacelle direction automatically depends on the VTOL's (speed) status

daring wagon Oct 10, 2020, 8:48 AM

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The function wants a string not an array @gray wharf

gray wharf Oct 10, 2020, 8:49 AM

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nevermind me both then 😭

sinful kettle Oct 10, 2020, 9:54 AM

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Any idea why this causes a crash?!

findDisplay 313 createDisplay "RscTestGrids";

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_GUI_Coordinates

alpine tulip Oct 10, 2020, 9:55 AM

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You're doing in preview?

sinful kettle Oct 10, 2020, 9:59 AM

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preview?

alpine tulip Oct 10, 2020, 9:59 AM

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In Eden Editor's editing screen or preview (in-game)?

sinful kettle Oct 10, 2020, 10:00 AM

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in game

alpine tulip Oct 10, 2020, 10:00 AM

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That's why, display 313 is Eden main display and is not working in-game, and causes an CTD somehow

sinful kettle Oct 10, 2020, 10:01 AM

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Thanks for the info.
Perhaps this should be added to the wiki as well?

alpine tulip Oct 10, 2020, 10:01 AM

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Note this ASAP

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Done

solid marten Oct 10, 2020, 10:18 AM

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@daring wagon Could you make ticket with copy paste repro I want to have a look

daring wagon Oct 10, 2020, 11:07 AM

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Yes, sure!

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@solid marten https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154260

restive bone Oct 10, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Btw has anything been said before about the likelyhood of changes being made to the ingame server browser? I'd personally like if a tab for Favorited servers was added

solid marten Oct 10, 2020, 6:18 PM

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Are all winter maps using scripted snow?

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This is arma 3 rain slowed down btw

📎 video0.mov

gray wharf Oct 10, 2020, 6:23 PM

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btw, I always wanted to know how it was made
some kind of "bullet" that drops from the sky?

can we script rain?

solid marten Oct 10, 2020, 6:24 PM

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yes but not easy and it will cost

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the drops are strips of 2d textures falling down at about 15 km/h (or m/s?)and influenced by wind and camera movement

ornate marlin Oct 10, 2020, 6:25 PM

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iirc in CUP the rain model/texture is replaced with snowflakes by script

solid marten Oct 10, 2020, 6:25 PM

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when you move towards they turn toward you

gray wharf Oct 10, 2020, 6:26 PM

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oooh, I always thought they were a fake, damageless bullet with blue tracer of some sort

solid marten Oct 10, 2020, 6:27 PM

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iirc in CUP the rain model/texture is replaced with snowflakes by script
@ornate marlin that is what I would do however the rain is made for rain so it won’t be perfect without engine tweaks

ornate marlin Oct 10, 2020, 6:28 PM

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i'm not very deep in to that matter, but that was the only way to do that at that time if i'm not mistaken

solid marten Oct 10, 2020, 6:28 PM

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still would produce decent effect if you mod out rain sounds

restive bone Oct 10, 2020, 6:29 PM

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furretwoah You can slow down the rain?

solid marten Oct 10, 2020, 6:29 PM

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yes search RainParticles in cfgworlds

restive bone Oct 10, 2020, 6:30 PM

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I dont have a clue what that cfgworlds is but good to know that its possible to slow down the rain, thank you blep
(as in I can guess what it is but I've never worked with cfgworlds)

solid marten Oct 10, 2020, 6:30 PM

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the one major major advantage of using rain for the snow is that it won’t snow in building or vehicles

gray wharf Oct 10, 2020, 6:31 PM

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could make SnowParticles :3

ornate marlin Oct 10, 2020, 6:31 PM

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still would produce decent effect if you mod out rain sounds
i'm trying to make snow sounds for over 2y now to replace them for winter maps... 😄

gray wharf Oct 10, 2020, 6:31 PM

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(on a totally unrelated note, I updated https://feedback.bistudio.com/T134630 - bug related to Open Mission selection dialog in Eden)

solid marten Oct 10, 2020, 6:31 PM

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lmao

desert trench Oct 10, 2020, 6:42 PM

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@deft marsh made snow using the rain particles

deft marsh Oct 10, 2020, 6:49 PM

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iirc in CUP the rain model/texture is replaced with snowflakes by script
its replaced in config, no script involved, system uses engines rain function.

ornate marlin Oct 10, 2020, 6:50 PM

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oh, right then 😄

solid marten Oct 10, 2020, 8:02 PM

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its replaced in config, no script involved, system uses engines rain function.
@deft marsh which maps it is in? can I see video?

deft marsh Oct 10, 2020, 8:03 PM

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any cup winter map, just set the same overcast as you would to make it rain

solid marten Oct 10, 2020, 8:06 PM

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https://youtu.be/6iqAs-Mykbk which one is winter?

YouTube

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Arma 3 - Community Upgrade Project - Terrains (Release Trailer)

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CUP TP Download - http://withsix.com/p/Arma-3/mod...

▶ Play video

deft marsh Oct 10, 2020, 8:07 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heW3U7905MI

YouTube

EvroMalarkey

Arma 3 - Community Upgrade Project - Terrains (Winter Chernarus Upd...

Trailer for CUP Terrains - Winter Chernarus Update

CUP Terrains Download - http://cup-arma3.org/download

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Music: Arma 2 - Rise of The Fallen

▶ Play video

solid marten Oct 10, 2020, 8:12 PM

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nice, do the particles annoyingly change size when you start running?

deft marsh Oct 10, 2020, 8:19 PM

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iirc no, i tweaked the settings (number of particles) to a comfortable level before i sent it to CUP

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it is possible to have it set so high that it starts to impede performance, so i 'tuned' it to avoid that.

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also iirc with the new dust config for terrains authors should be able to add proper vehicle dust particle effect for winter environment.

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if you have cup-core and cup-maps you can look for yourself 🙂

solid marten Oct 10, 2020, 8:50 PM

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there is no param for how many particles to create in RainParticle config

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also you don’t need to create more particles to increase density, just decrease spawn radius

deft marsh Oct 10, 2020, 9:00 PM

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min/maxRainDensity controls the strength(density) of the effect, effectRadius is the distance of the effect from player camera.
so yes, there is no direct control of particle numbers per se, its min/maxRainDensity * Missions' Environment Rain setting (for how rainy (snowy) it is).

solid marten Oct 10, 2020, 9:01 PM

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no mindensity is min density of the rain at which start creating particles. rain density is 0...1

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don’t remember seeing max density

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so if min density 0.5 and setRain is 0.49 you won’t see rain.

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maybe this is done for different types of rain

deft marsh Oct 10, 2020, 9:03 PM

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yeah also need overcast greater than 0.5

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i can pm you my commented config if you need it for that.

solid marten Oct 10, 2020, 9:04 PM

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overcast is different story, talking about rain particle config. let me quickly check something

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yeah there is no max rain density

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// minimum rain strength when the rain effect is applied float _minRainDensity;

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If you ask me this is pretty useless

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as it should be quite small value 99% of the time

solid marten Oct 11, 2020, 6:46 AM

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@deft marsh Found min max density but it is in rain config. don’t need to touch that

desert trench Oct 11, 2020, 9:29 AM

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any chance for rpt logging be improved please?
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T153041
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T153042

should be very low risk and effort but help a good deal

solid marten Oct 11, 2020, 9:59 AM

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Not low effort

desert trench Oct 11, 2020, 12:26 PM

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how comes?

solid marten Oct 11, 2020, 12:43 PM

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because of inheritance. scalar error could be caused by many different types trying to be passed as scalar. To hunt down which type you need to add this message to every type, hardly low effort. and this is just one small example.

gray wharf Oct 11, 2020, 12:55 PM

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Unsupported language English in stringtable
could maybe be enhanced by the missing translation's key? that's the only "simple one" I see from outside

solid marten Oct 11, 2020, 1:29 PM

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not saying it should not be done, but calling it simple and effortless is wrong

sinful kettle Oct 11, 2020, 2:38 PM

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Feature Request:
Is it possible to add a command that finds if an element from array1 is in array2? findIf is too slow for my use. arrayIntersect is better but a waste of performance (also, given the fact that it runs unscheduled, it can result in an FPS drop if you're working with large arrays)
So in short, what I want is a command that combines both of these commands and returns an index similar to find.
something like:

array1 findIn array2

which gives the index of the first element from array1 that's in array2. Currently, it would be:

array1 find (array2 arrayIntersect array1 select 0)
or
array1 findIf {_x in array2}

both are not optimal.
example:

[1,2,3] findIn [5,3,2]

returns: 1 (i.e. the number 2 from the first array)

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154274

desert trench Oct 11, 2020, 4:28 PM

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simple and effortless

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not what i said 😉

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and ofc we cant judge the actual effort involved - yet compared to anything new, adjusting should be usually easier, right?

daring wagon Oct 11, 2020, 5:22 PM

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array1 findIf {_x in array2}
This is already pretty fast? What are you trying to do? Do calculations to send a rocket to the moon?

gray wharf Oct 11, 2020, 5:30 PM

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even that was done with less than a smartphone power :D

daring wagon Oct 11, 2020, 5:30 PM

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Yeah true, which is amazing.

sinful kettle Oct 11, 2020, 5:40 PM

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This is already pretty fast
No. It's very, very slow.
compare

[1,2,3,4,5] find 5

with

[1,2,3,4,5] findIf {_x == 5}

Now imaging an array with some thousand elements...

restive bone Oct 11, 2020, 6:45 PM

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Btw I think this ticket can be closed, afaik the main parts of requests 1a and 1b are possible
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T126347

solid marten Oct 13, 2020, 12:27 PM

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Anyone has a quick example of driver pylon?

gray wharf Oct 13, 2020, 12:28 PM

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the NATO attack helicopter yes

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the pilot has tube rockets that can change depending on the preset

solid marten Oct 13, 2020, 12:31 PM

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what are the pylon numbers/names for driver control?

gray wharf Oct 13, 2020, 12:35 PM

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don't know, I am at work (well, you are too) 😬

alpine tulip Oct 13, 2020, 12:41 PM

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Pawnee has 1 and 2 pylons and both are driver control by default IIRC?

daring wagon Oct 13, 2020, 12:44 PM

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Is there are reason that

onEachFrame {AA doWatch position Plane};

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behaves totally differnt than

AA doWatch Plane;

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The second example doesn't really work at all. The AI gun just aims randomly to the ground only rarely aiming at the Plane

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Where as doWatch position works very nice but is not updated constantly so it needs to run in a loop

gray wharf Oct 13, 2020, 12:46 PM

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doTarget?

daring wagon Oct 13, 2020, 12:47 PM

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Yeah, that works as the first example above

gray wharf Oct 13, 2020, 12:49 PM

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I would guess "doWatch", "glanceAt" etc are "AI-attention connected"

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like "hey, a new interest point" and not "STARE AT IT" anymore

daring wagon Oct 13, 2020, 12:49 PM

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hmmm

alpine tulip Oct 13, 2020, 1:29 PM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154307
@solid marten Ticket added

uncut briar Oct 13, 2020, 1:58 PM

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High ROF + muzzleImpulseFactor on helicopter weapons desyncs the helicopters for clients if AFM is used:
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154308
https://imgur.com/vfiDWMq 🙂

Imgur

restive bone Oct 13, 2020, 2:04 PM

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nerv_surdduck

gray wharf Oct 13, 2020, 2:07 PM

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it's a boeing aircraft 😄

daring wagon Oct 13, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Would love to hear an opinion about this https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154311 (Eden Attributes with default values remain in mission.sqm)

spare vine Oct 13, 2020, 4:58 PM

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Technically it's correct behaviour, since you're still setting the attributes (even when default). But I agree that it would be nicer to have a check in place will will remove attributes when a default value is used.

daring wagon Oct 13, 2020, 5:14 PM

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Technically it's correct behaviour, since you're still setting the attributes (even when default).
@spare vine
I feel like it's kinda contradictory because then, all attribute should be added to the mission.sqm no matter if they were edited once.

spare vine Oct 13, 2020, 5:16 PM

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If you don't set the attribute, it falls back to default, otherwise use the given value (no matter if it matches default).
That's normal behaviour to me.

daring wagon Oct 13, 2020, 5:37 PM

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True, but if an attribute was never changed, the default value will not even be written to the mission.sqm thus will not be executed, so why would the default value stay in the mission.sqm once the attribute was reset. That's what I think is contradictory.

alpine tulip Oct 14, 2020, 5:15 AM

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Are forceWeaponFire, BIS_fnc_fire or such “force fire” commands/functions affected by weapons configs such as aiRateOfFireDispersion or aiRateOfFire when the unit is an AI? I think it should be affected by reloadTime only?

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~~eg, it seems impossible to make it happened to make an AI shoot his MX in full auto via bunch of forceWeaponFires, but AI doesn't want to shoot it in actual RPM~~

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(Or, am I missing something?)

alpine tulip Oct 14, 2020, 5:35 AM

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Nevermind, my script went wrongly it seems

daring wagon Oct 14, 2020, 1:04 PM

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Something seems to be wrong with the changelog formatted in the launcher. The line spacing seems to be different. Just a minor thing I noticed.

📎 unknown.png

restive bone Oct 14, 2020, 1:09 PM

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Yep same here

gray wharf Oct 14, 2020, 1:09 PM

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Dedmen brokeded it :U

restive bone Oct 14, 2020, 1:09 PM

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Brokeman blep

fickle root Oct 14, 2020, 1:44 PM

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especially this one )))

📎 Screenshot_163.png

restive bone Oct 14, 2020, 1:45 PM

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I've seen stuff like that happen a fwe times, not sure what causes it

alpine tulip Oct 14, 2020, 1:46 PM

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That spacing is common. Since it can't break a line in the “looong word” addWeaponWithAttachmentsCargo, the engine decides to make a spacing before the “word”

gray wharf Oct 14, 2020, 1:53 PM

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text-align: justify;

restive bone Oct 14, 2020, 2:01 PM

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Btw is it just me or does the feedback tracker throw an error with the query https://feedback.bistudio.com/search/query/E_I6rFJwjIGB/?offset=900 ?

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And I doubt thats really the end of the ticket list since thats only December of 2019

untold sky Oct 14, 2020, 7:12 PM

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any chance for rpt logging be improved please?
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T153041
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T153042

should be very low risk and effort but help a good deal
@desert trench
yeah I have a nice idea on how to solve that. But I think that needs approval, I'll see probably next week
I'll pick at RPT logging anyway in the next weeks (atleast i currently plan to do that...).

Also after two weeks absence I'm back now :u

restive bone Oct 14, 2020, 8:56 PM

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Welcome back ablobdoggowavereverse

daring wagon Oct 14, 2020, 9:53 PM

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Is there a specific reason that there are no commands to set the URL and shortcut of a menu strip item? There is only menuURL and menuShortcut as well as menuShortcutText Would be nice to have those 😬

untold sky Oct 15, 2020, 11:35 AM

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@desert trench check update on ticket.
For most errors I'll need a repro, to then see what info I could add to it

desert trench Oct 15, 2020, 12:07 PM

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that will be tricky to some extent as due to their obscurity, the context often not really clear

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added some info/context. a good chunk of these just happen by loading A3 itself or some bigger mod (in rpt/debug.log at the top/from game loading up)

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overall file+line would be most relevant (not more info about the issue itself)

untold sky Oct 15, 2020, 12:50 PM

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line is often hard to do.
Only one I found was the unsupported stringtable thingy.
None of the others printed on startup with few mods

gray wharf Oct 15, 2020, 12:51 PM

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stacktrace to be vanilla soon\™

daring wagon Oct 15, 2020, 1:21 PM

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@untold sky Keep me updated on that issue so I can expand https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/User:R3vo/Sandbox#Common_Errors_and_Warnings with explainations and solutions.

sinful kettle Oct 15, 2020, 1:31 PM

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Another error I know:

bin\config.bin/____.ConnectTo: Bad move AnimName
bin\config.bin/____.interpolateTo: Bad move AnimName
Meaning that the AnimName defined in ConnectTo or interpolateTo properties doesn't exist.

untold sky Oct 15, 2020, 1:34 PM

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but that already gives you the full config path, what else do you need? name of config.bin/cpp file where that came from?

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I have something very nice I'm trying right now, we'll see how that works

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hint parseText "<t xxx='%1'>t size='1' align='center' valign='middle'>%2%3 </t>";

Before:

Unknown attribute xxx

After:

15:43:16 \/Context:     [] L1 ()    
[] L25 (A3\functions_f\Debug\fn_debugConsoleExec.sqf [BIS_fnc_debugConsoleExec])    
[] L25 (A3\functions_f\Debug\fn_debugConsoleExec.sqf [BIS_fnc_debugConsoleExec])    
[] L1 ()
15:43:19 Unknown attribute xxx

Debug console is a boring example, but you get the gist?

If you cause RPT error while you were in script, so if your script caused it, it'll print the script callstack as part of the context

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Probably only with -showScriptErrors, as that would otherwise make normal players logs too big, and ofc also has some performance impact

daring wagon Oct 15, 2020, 1:59 PM

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What does 15:43:16 \/Context: [] L1 () and [] L1 () L for the line I guess

untold sky Oct 15, 2020, 2:00 PM

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[scopeName] LineNumber (filename)

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That L1 thing is just
(_this select 0) call (_this select 0)
only one line, no filename.
Might filter these out? not sure, might be useful to see sometimes

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That's just same callstrack as ArmaDebugEngine

daring wagon Oct 15, 2020, 2:02 PM

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Sounds like we need -showDetailedScriptErrors 😄

gray wharf Oct 15, 2020, 2:03 PM

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-showScriptErrorsButNotTooMuch

untold sky Oct 15, 2020, 2:12 PM

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My thinking is, player doesn't want these, but developer does.
If you set -showScriptErrors you'll be a dev in some way

daring wagon Oct 15, 2020, 2:25 PM

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Yeah true.

desert trench Oct 15, 2020, 3:05 PM

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well imo lines is not as important - most important is the context of the error

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like stringtable key/term, variable, class

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with this you have at last something to narrow it down

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on another note are these crashes still desired to be submitted?

Forced crash: array access out of range: 23 index: 23

Exception code: C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 1063E0C0

i think to remember BI devs asked specifically about these

untold sky Oct 15, 2020, 3:07 PM

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yeah like, your stringtable with no actual key, is probably a "localize" call in script. So printing script callstack will be most useful for that

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Yes please submit these crashes, these can literally be anywhere so we'll need crashdump, better logging for that is not feasible

desert trench Oct 15, 2020, 3:11 PM

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ok. send in via Dwarden or FT?

untold sky Oct 15, 2020, 3:14 PM

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FT, can't do crashdumps currently tho, so some delay

desert trench Oct 15, 2020, 4:07 PM

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done

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Error in expression <tion";
_rand = random 8;
_soundslist = [_sound1, _sound2, _sound3];

Error position: <_sound1, _sound2, _sound3];

Error Undefined variable in expression: _sound1

Error in expression <floor(random(count _soundslist)));

if (_soundselected != "") then {
_agent say >
Error position: <_soundselected != "") then {
_agent say >
Error Undefined variable in expression: _soundselected

these are from fsm, but i think can also happen in other context (sqm?) - feasible to get the error context (file+line) for these?

sinful kettle Oct 15, 2020, 6:58 PM

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Did you guys touch setObjectTextureGlobal? Someone says it doesn't work after the update:
#arma3_scripting message

gray wharf Oct 15, 2020, 7:35 PM

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ugh, I encountered the say3D bug again, even with directSay (I guess the same mechanics are at work)
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T131341

gray wharf Oct 16, 2020, 12:15 AM

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was this bugfix in 2.00?
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T84241

and if so, it can be closed 😉

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't was! can be closed ^^

fickle root Oct 16, 2020, 12:19 AM

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this one can be closed as well
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T150535

gray wharf Oct 16, 2020, 12:35 AM

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haaah, nice!

fickle root Oct 16, 2020, 1:00 AM

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reyhard, I see in the changelog of 2.00 that Livonia and Tanoa houses were finally fixed.
but 1 still isn't
Structures (Livonia) -> Village - Wooden House (Small, v3) Land_House_1W03_F
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/108187245529268224/710908155986706442/arma3diag_x64_2020-05-15_19-20-49-894.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/108187245529268224/710908105294086174/arma3diag_x64_2020-05-15_19-20-58-701.png

untold sky Oct 16, 2020, 7:48 AM

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Need a FT moderator 😭

gray wharf Oct 16, 2020, 11:12 AM

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@untold sky 🖐️

sinful kettle Oct 16, 2020, 11:22 AM

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Me! 🖐️

untold sky Oct 16, 2020, 11:23 AM

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Yeah get that other thing we talked about and you can hopefully do that too :D
I need someone who's NDA'ed to handle that stuff too, not so easy 😄

gray wharf Oct 16, 2020, 11:24 AM

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Yeah get that other thing we talked about and you can hopefully do that too :D
(me?)

I need someone who's NDA'ed to handle that stuff too, not so easy 😄
I have been NDA'd enough in the past, I am NDA'd by default now :D

restive bone Oct 16, 2020, 11:29 AM

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I have been NDA'd enough in the past, I am NDA'd by default now :D
NDA collecting Simulator

untold sky Oct 16, 2020, 11:30 AM

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@gray wharf would you do it if we can do it?

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just editing tickets basically, getting rid of garbage, updating status when released.

gray wharf Oct 16, 2020, 11:33 AM

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well, if I offered, obviously ~~not~~

untold sky Oct 16, 2020, 11:47 AM

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lou just piling more work on himself

restive bone Oct 16, 2020, 11:49 AM

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heh heh_r Reminds me of someone else in this discord

untold sky Oct 16, 2020, 11:54 AM

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just a matter of time till Lou gets a actual job out of that stuff 😄

gray wharf Oct 16, 2020, 11:55 AM

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if it is remote, I might

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that's my life goal so far, a job I can do from anywhere around the globe (…thanks, COVID)

restive bone Oct 16, 2020, 11:56 AM

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Lou Montana - Community Wiki and Feedback Tracker manager at Bohemia Interactive heh

gray wharf Oct 16, 2020, 12:00 PM

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right now it's benevolent, so don't put stress on me okay? 😄

deft marsh Oct 16, 2020, 12:09 PM

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don't forget "Farmer of Dad Jokes", its most important title.

restive bone Oct 16, 2020, 12:12 PM

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Ooooh yeah

gray wharf Oct 16, 2020, 12:27 PM

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Thank you, thank you! I would like to thank my family, my friends…

daring wagon Oct 16, 2020, 12:27 PM

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I would volunteer as well. Have been under NDA as well 🙂

restive bone Oct 16, 2020, 12:31 PM

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I dont know if the NDA I've been under is NDA-y enough blobdoggoshruggoogly

untold sky Oct 16, 2020, 12:31 PM

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For now only one, to see what will go wrong and how well/not well it works :D
Its not 😉

restive bone Oct 16, 2020, 12:32 PM

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awe Guess I gotta get invited to more secret stuff to get one of the fancy NDA's

daring wagon Oct 16, 2020, 12:32 PM

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Does that mean I can spam Lou now with my old tickets so he closes them ? 😄

gray wharf Oct 16, 2020, 12:33 PM

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YES

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I will keep them on my "open" tab 😁

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For now only one, to see what will go wrong
and you pick me as a crash dummy?? :U

…understandable 😄

daring wagon Oct 16, 2020, 12:34 PM

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Want them tickets as DM lou?

gray wharf Oct 16, 2020, 12:34 PM

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when I get elected :p

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I will not forget you, random citizen! you made me where I stand today!

sinful kettle Oct 16, 2020, 12:35 PM

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Can we maybe get "feedback moderator assistant" roles and a new channel to report them more officially to Lou?!

daring wagon Oct 16, 2020, 12:35 PM

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Feedback Moderator assistant 😄

sinful kettle Oct 16, 2020, 12:36 PM

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It's a thing! 😄

daring wagon Oct 16, 2020, 12:36 PM

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Master of Feedback Moderator Engineering

restive bone Oct 16, 2020, 12:36 PM

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?!
damn lou hasnt been elected yet and already has people angry at him

gray wharf Oct 16, 2020, 12:36 PM

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Feedback Moderator assistant junior trainee*

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well, this channel is for feedback discussion, so 😄

sinful kettle Oct 16, 2020, 12:39 PM

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You can drop the "assistant" if it doesn't sit well with you! 😄

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Just "feedback moderator"

ornate marlin Oct 16, 2020, 1:05 PM

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@untold sky
If there is a list for FT mods, you can write me up too. Signed NDA in 2018 iirc (not sure if still valid) and am familiar with phabricator

untold sky Oct 16, 2020, 1:07 PM

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notlikemeow

distant belfry Oct 16, 2020, 2:59 PM

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Not sure if this has been mentioned already, but:
Issue: VON in Audio settings does not increase player audio for vanilla radio. Currently, only effects increase player volume.

If a hotfix is coming at some point, that'd be splendid. I'm not sure if this is possible, but while we're at it, can you bind Direct Chat to VON too? I'd love to hear people talk in direct by just turning my VON up, not effects.

fickle root Oct 16, 2020, 4:11 PM

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Why NDA if it's just closing tickets?

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Or is it because of hidden tickets, containing repros for expoits/cheats?
Or because the person in question then also has access to internal FT as well?

uncut briar Oct 16, 2020, 4:31 PM

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Not every ticket in FT is public.

untold sky Oct 16, 2020, 6:24 PM

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@distant belfry already fixed that, but no ETA to release

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can you bind Direct Chat to VON too?
also done, but not sure if that'd be included in a potential hotfix

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Its because hidden tickets.

desert trench Oct 16, 2020, 6:30 PM

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While it is possible to set tooltip on any column, only tooltip from the primary column 0 is displayed for the whole row under cursor, which makes adding tooltips to columns other than 0 impractical.
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/lnbSetTooltip

lnbSetTooltip

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is there a chance to see this fixed with a FT report and demo?

untold sky Oct 16, 2020, 6:35 PM

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would need to look at code

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and won't do that without ticket in todo

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can still say "too much work, won't do" after we have a ticket and stuff

desert trench Oct 16, 2020, 6:36 PM

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roger

alpine tulip Oct 17, 2020, 10:41 AM

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keyName 4.87654e+008```returns```"""Left Ctrl+"""```, instead of `Left Ctrl+Sec. Mouse Btn.`. This is a bug right?

sinful kettle Oct 17, 2020, 10:49 AM

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I think it's due to the floating point error

alpine tulip Oct 17, 2020, 10:52 AM

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It's the default Optics Mode keybind, but keyName fails

sterile nova Oct 17, 2020, 11:04 AM

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Pretty sure there is already ticket for that.

sinful kettle Oct 17, 2020, 11:25 AM

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@solid marten Can you change compile so that it keeps the #line directive even if it's invalid?
What I want to do is:

compile "#line 1 ""noFile""
a a"

So that it shows the error properly, as in Error in noFile, line 1. Missing ; (similar to preprocessFileLineNumbers)
Right now, it simply removes it and I just get Missing ;, without telling me which line the error occurs at.

tulip shard Oct 17, 2020, 11:45 AM

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try this @sinful kettle

private _line = format ["%2%1line 1 ""noFile""%2%2", "#", toString [13,10]]; 
private _string = _line + "a a";
compile _string

21:43:36 Error in expression <
#line 1 "noFile"

a a>
21:43:36   Error position: <a>
21:43:36   Error Missing ;
21:43:36 File noFile..., line 2

daring wagon Oct 17, 2020, 11:47 AM

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Is there a way to add a single ticket into a custom query on the feedback tracker?

sinful kettle Oct 17, 2020, 12:09 PM

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@tulip shard Wow! Thanks a lot!
I also noticed that this works too:

private _line = format ["%1line 1 ""noFile""%2", "#", toString [10]];  
private _string = _line + "a a"; 
compile _string

So I think I should've used the unicode next-line char instead of putting a next-line there myself!
what is the [13] character? Is it \r? (so toString [13,10] means \r\n)

tulip shard Oct 17, 2020, 12:09 PM

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yes i believe it is \r\n

sinful kettle Oct 17, 2020, 12:10 PM

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Interesting. Thanks again!

untold sky Oct 17, 2020, 1:54 PM

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@alpine tulip the number you wrote there, is not the actual number you gave to keyName, as said, floating point error, you can't.

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I want to fix that, but deffo not soon

alpine tulip Oct 17, 2020, 1:55 PM

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Ohh... the key presets config says so but is that just something illegal for keyName?

untold sky Oct 17, 2020, 2:01 PM

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the number is too big

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you cannot write that number to make it work

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the number you write, is never the number that comes out

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you write one number, but actually you get out a different number that corresponds to a different key

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just look up floating point precision on google or something

alpine tulip Oct 17, 2020, 2:02 PM

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Ah, that kind of thing. I think I get the issue

desert trench Oct 17, 2020, 2:14 PM

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ticket created at Dedmen

lnbSetTooltip in RscListNBox only show the value of the first column defined
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154380

naive ledge Oct 17, 2020, 2:47 PM

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Just thinking, one of solutions for key binding floating point error is to use stringified large integers. thonk

sinful kettle Oct 17, 2020, 3:20 PM

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That's still subject to the same errors when you think about it.

untold sky Oct 17, 2020, 3:25 PM

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how?

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I don't see how

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But why use string large numbers if you can use names

sinful kettle Oct 17, 2020, 3:26 PM

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how?
how it doesn't work?

untold sky Oct 17, 2020, 3:26 PM

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yeah

naive ledge Oct 17, 2020, 3:30 PM

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Stringified hex or decimal int to native int conversion is not subject to precision error or anything of this kind

sinful kettle Oct 17, 2020, 3:33 PM

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Are you sure? I was actually gonna test this right now.

naive ledge Oct 17, 2020, 3:35 PM

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Of course, when you convert an uintXX to a string in hex form, it's straightforward, half-bytes are mapped to chars and that's it

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If such thing was used for these control mappings in the script side, this would help avoid all the problems people have with floats currently

sinful kettle Oct 17, 2020, 3:38 PM

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hmm

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what is the maximum value possible for a keybinding?

naive ledge Oct 17, 2020, 3:41 PM

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I don't know, what do they use, 32 bit or 64 bit integer? I forgot that

sinful kettle Oct 17, 2020, 3:42 PM

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32 bit I think

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Number

untold sky Oct 17, 2020, 3:44 PM

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integer?

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wat?

naive ledge Oct 17, 2020, 3:46 PM

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It's int in the engine but float in sqf those some conversions are weird as far as I understand

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So I just proposed, if key codes were strings and not floats in sqf this would solve the conversion problems.

untold sky Oct 17, 2020, 3:47 PM

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yeah I know that ^^

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new keybinding system will solve all that if it happens

naive ledge Oct 17, 2020, 3:49 PM

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Why are you surprised then? 😆

untold sky Oct 17, 2020, 3:54 PM

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who was surprised where?

naive ledge Oct 17, 2020, 3:56 PM

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integer?
wat?

untold sky Oct 17, 2020, 3:58 PM

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yeah dunno why integer

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everything SQF is float

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not integer

sinful kettle Oct 17, 2020, 4:00 PM

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aren't booleans integer?! (I mean technically)

naive ledge Oct 17, 2020, 4:03 PM

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I meant that in the engine it's int, or bit field maybe

untold sky Oct 17, 2020, 4:05 PM

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wat

naive ledge Oct 17, 2020, 4:05 PM

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aren't booleans integer?! (I mean technically)
Yes, compilers implement bools as some form of integer type as I know. Don't know if they use one byte or a full word.

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wat
wat wat

daring wagon Oct 18, 2020, 8:00 AM

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@solid marten Here is the ticket about menuShortcutText in case you still need it https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154395

solid marten Oct 18, 2020, 8:02 AM

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gracias

unborn acorn Oct 18, 2020, 9:03 AM

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Please close this ticket https://feedback.bistudio.com/T152975

gray wharf Oct 18, 2020, 9:14 AM

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no u

gray wharf Oct 18, 2020, 11:38 AM

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wait, what?

📎 unknown.png

slow shoal Oct 18, 2020, 6:57 PM

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What's the protocol if a 5 year-old submitted issue has been assigned to someone with no activity in the last 4 years but the issue is marked as high priority? Seems like things get lost and I'm just curious if there's anything us lowly users can do to help this kind of thing

finite anvil Oct 18, 2020, 7:32 PM

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is it intentional that

supportInfo "i:*"
``` returns `[["b","*","*","a multiplied by b","iCounter*3","","SCALAR,NaN","SCALAR,NaN","SCALAR,NaN"]]` aka the info about the multiplication operator and not as a wildcard as with
```sqf
supportInfo "t:*"
```?

solid marten Oct 18, 2020, 8:35 PM

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it’s intentional there are no wild cards with i filter

fickle root Oct 18, 2020, 8:41 PM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T142713 - ED-1D / ED-1E are enterable
not completely fixed, despite the ticket being closed (see repro)

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also ED-1 are called UAV instead of UGV, for some reason. but they can't fly, so A - aerial is not correct, but G - ground is

solid marten Oct 18, 2020, 10:39 PM

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How else are you supposed to switch to gunner turret?

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can you actually enter the drone? I can’t see this on video

fickle root Oct 19, 2020, 12:01 AM

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can you actually enter the drone? I can’t see this on video
@solid marten Yes, you can. That's what I show in my video, if you look closely.
Since you have the "To gunner's seat", after you first select "Take UAV controls", which isn't present on any other armed UAV/UGV.
After you select "To gunner's seat", you can't do anything then, like shoot, control the gunner turret, switch back to driver or disconnect from UGV. You have to respawn or reconnect to the server.
How else are you supposed to switch to gunner turret?
@solid marten well, like any other armed UAV/UGV, by selecting "Take UAV turret controls" (gunner), instead of "Take UAV controls" (pilot/driver)

solid marten Oct 19, 2020, 6:38 AM

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ok thanks

sterile nova Oct 19, 2020, 6:52 AM

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ED-1 is called tank (which is wrong ofc), not UAV. AI inside is called UAV - probably you have ejected AI by that action

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in any case, you shouldn't spawn non full crew on UGV

solid marten Oct 19, 2020, 6:59 AM

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@fickle root ⬆️

daring wagon Oct 19, 2020, 10:44 AM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154366 @solid marten I have updated the ticket. I noticed there are two more commands missing to complement the menu command group.

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@gray wharf The children of this ticket can be closed https://feedback.bistudio.com/T148721

gray wharf Oct 19, 2020, 10:58 AM

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…I quit

untold sky Oct 19, 2020, 11:03 AM

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but whai you subtask :u

gray wharf Oct 19, 2020, 11:13 AM

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he no like mi, das y

desert trench Oct 19, 2020, 11:42 AM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154368

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another VON report with good detail and repro steps

daring wagon Oct 19, 2020, 12:12 PM

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but whai you subtask :u
@untold sky Is there another way to group items? I asked in Feedback Tracker channel but got no answer.

untold sky Oct 19, 2020, 12:18 PM

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not really.

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But can just make a link list 😄

daring wagon Oct 19, 2020, 12:19 PM

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For me subtasks were easier since no copy and paste was needed 😛

fickle root Oct 19, 2020, 12:33 PM

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AI inside is called UAV - probably you have ejected AI by that action
by which action? "To gunner's seat"?
this action shouldn't be there in the first place, like it isn't there in any other armed UAVs/UGVs.
I haven't ejected AI, since when I respawn and reconnect to it, I still can "Take UAV turret controls" and shoot with it or rotate it, so the AI is still there.
in any case, you shouldn't spawn non full crew on UGV
@sterile nova the crew is full and no AI gets ejected by "To gunner's seat", since I still can "Take UAV turret controls" and shoot with it or rotate it, after I respawn.
The only thing which is wrong is that there shouldn't be the action "To gunner's seat", like there isn't one one any other armed UAVs/UGVs, that's it.

Also, please see this post. Thx
https://discordapp.com/channels/105462288051380224/108187245529268224/766465505912815617

sterile nova Oct 19, 2020, 12:41 PM

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I'm pretty sure you have only driver on that mini ugv

fickle root Oct 19, 2020, 12:42 PM

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well, if the crew is not full, how am I able to control the turret then, by selecting "Take UAV turret controls"?

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anyways, "To gunner's seat" shouldn't be there, like it isn't on any other armed UAV/UGV

sterile nova Oct 19, 2020, 12:43 PM

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AI switch seat

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it's not there if you spawn full crew

fickle root Oct 19, 2020, 12:44 PM

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when I buy/spawn any other UAV/UGV, there is no "To gunner's seat", which is how it should be

sterile nova Oct 19, 2020, 12:45 PM

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I guess spawning script issue?

gray wharf Oct 19, 2020, 12:45 PM

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buy? ^

fickle root Oct 19, 2020, 12:45 PM

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no

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ok, I will place one and connect to it in the editor and result should be same then, if I'm correct

fickle root Oct 19, 2020, 1:01 PM

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have now checked in the editor and everything works just fine, but in the editor it's called ED-1D Pelter and the one we have in the mission is called simply ED-1D, without Pelter

sterile nova Oct 19, 2020, 1:02 PM

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CSAT version has different name

fickle root Oct 19, 2020, 1:03 PM

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oh, ok. have spawned it as well in the editor and also no such problem

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don't know why this action is then visible in our mission

sterile nova Oct 19, 2020, 1:04 PM

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because there is no gunner

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try this when controlling mini ugv
deleteVehicle ((crew cameraon) # 1)

fickle root Oct 19, 2020, 1:05 PM

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while on driver seat or after selecting "To gunner's seat"?

sterile nova Oct 19, 2020, 1:06 PM

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while on driver seat - it will show you "to gunner's seat" option after that

fickle root Oct 19, 2020, 1:10 PM

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well, now we're playing NATO and not CSAT anymore, but I see it's the same problem with ED-1D Pelter, so I guess I can try what you suggested on it as well

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while on driver seat - it will show you "to gunner's seat" option after that
the thing is is that it shoes me "To gunner's seat" directly when I "Take UAV controls" (get in as driver), so I don't even have to execute what you gave me

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this is what's executed in the mission, when you press "BUY"
private _onVehicleCreated =
{
params["_vehicle"];
if (unitIsUAV _vehicle) then
{
createVehicleCrew _vehicle;
(group _vehicle) deleteGroupWhenEmpty true;
((crew _vehicle) select 0) triggerDynamicSimulation true;
[EVENT_NAME_UAV_CREW_CREATED, crew _vehicle] call FFAEventBusTrigger;

_vehicle call FFAUavUpdateOwnerInfo;
_vehicle setVariable [UAV_OWNER_UID, FFAPlayerUid, true];

0 remoteExecCall ["FFAUavSyncList", -2, false];
};
};

sterile nova Oct 19, 2020, 1:14 PM

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I mean, you can use code that I posted to reproduce it outside of exile

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maybe createVehicleCrew is broken then for UAV? 🤔

fickle root Oct 19, 2020, 1:15 PM

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you know better, I suppose

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can't tell you.
but everything works fine for other UAVs/UGVs, so...

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Oh... wait, "bought" MQ-12 Falcon now and same issue

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"bought" UGV Stomper RCWS and no such issue. same script used always

sterile nova Oct 19, 2020, 1:20 PM

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tried createVehicleCrew on empty mini ugv and I don't have that "to gunner's seat" option

fickle root Oct 19, 2020, 1:21 PM

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so I just uncheck spawn with crew inside?

sterile nova Oct 19, 2020, 1:21 PM

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yea, or hold left alt when placing vehicle

fickle root Oct 19, 2020, 1:32 PM

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so when I place empty ED-1D, then "Take UAV Controls (connect to driver seat), then execute deleteVehicle ((crew cameraon) # 1), I then see "To gunner's seat" and no possibility to do "Take UAV turret controls"

sterile nova Oct 19, 2020, 1:33 PM

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it wasn't empty if there was "Take UAV Controls " option

fickle root Oct 19, 2020, 1:33 PM

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without executing deleteVehicle ((crew cameraon) # 1), there is no "To gunner's seat" and it's possible to "Take UAV turret controls"

sterile nova Oct 19, 2020, 1:33 PM

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if it was empty then you would have "Hack" option

fickle root Oct 19, 2020, 1:34 PM

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well, I unchecked so it doesn't spawn with crew inside it

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I've hacked it first, yes

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forgot to mention it

sterile nova Oct 19, 2020, 1:34 PM

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yeah, hack is replacing crew of UAV/UGV 😄 if it's missing, then it's creating new one

fickle root Oct 19, 2020, 1:35 PM

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so what does this all mean?

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problem with createVehicleCrew?

sterile nova Oct 19, 2020, 1:35 PM

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that placing empty UGV was pointless to repro it

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createVehicleCrew works correctly in SP - I haven't tried MP though

fickle root Oct 19, 2020, 1:36 PM

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well, mission is MP, obviously

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but why then it works for Saïf UGV for exemple

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there is driver and gunner and there isn't "To gunner's seat"

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in our MP mission

sterile nova Oct 19, 2020, 1:37 PM

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no idea but there seems to be some issue with spawning crew of mini ugv

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could you try it outside of exile?

fickle root Oct 19, 2020, 1:39 PM

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well, it's not exile, but Evolution PvE mission.
I could try it, but the problem is that I don't know what to type as scripts, since I'm not the person who does the scripts in our mission and have no knowledge of scripts.
if you could tell me what exactly to exec in the console, I can check it then

fickle root Oct 19, 2020, 1:59 PM

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Oh and I see that ED-1D has no manual fire option, despite having a gun. other armed UAVs/UGVs have manual fire option, like Saïf or Stomper

sterile nova Oct 19, 2020, 2:07 PM

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by design - that parameter was clashing with science equipment of other ed1e

fickle root Oct 19, 2020, 2:22 PM

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reyhard, tried in the editor on all other UAVs/UGVs present in the game your "useless to repro" deleteVehicle ((crew cameraon) # 1) after "Hack" and "Take UAV Controls" and none of them had the option "To gunner's seat" appear after executing this, except ED1-D and ED-1E

sterile nova Oct 19, 2020, 2:22 PM

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what about MQ-12 Falcon ?

fickle root Oct 19, 2020, 2:24 PM

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Falcon also no "To gunner's seat" after executing your stuff, in the editor. But "To gunner's seat" is present on Falcon in our MP mission, using the script to "buy" it I showed you before, but not present on Saïf or Stomper, in our MP mission

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so I guess I have to try all the UAVs/UGVs present in our MP mission

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maybe in the editor other UAVs/UGVs didn't have "To gunner's seat", because some of them have only 1 seat in total you can take and others have both, but they have "Manual fire" option that ED-1D/E don't have?

sinful kettle Oct 19, 2020, 2:35 PM

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R3vo added a comment to T141036: CTD: Opening display RscTestGrids.

Seems to be fixed.
I see R3vo has already become "feedback moderator assistant"! 🤣

fickle root Oct 19, 2020, 2:39 PM

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Reyhard, sorry, have checked once again, in our MP mission and Falcon is also working fine, like in the editor.

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So it's only ED-1D/E that have "To gunner's seat" problem, in our MP mission
or in the editor, after deleteVehicle ((crew cameraon) # 1)

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other UAVs/UGVs after "Hack" in editor or after buying them using the script createVehicleCrew in our MP mission, are not affected at all, after executing deleteVehicle ((crew cameraon) # 1)

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so the problem with "To gunner's seat" action present on ED-1D/E once you select "Take UAV controls" is then real and reproduceable in editor and in MP

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the only difference is that in the editor, after you "Hack" and "Take UAV controls", you have to exec deleteVehicle ((crew cameraon) # 1) for "To gunner's seat" action to appear
vs.
in our MP mission "To gunner's seat" action is directly available after "buying ED-1D/E using our script with createVehicleCrew

sterile nova Oct 19, 2020, 4:13 PM

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Have you tried debugging your script perhaps? Like trying removing createvehiclecrew

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I tried it in mp and its working fine

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So no idea what is happening in your mission

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Gunner seat

fickle root Oct 19, 2020, 4:15 PM

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haven't since I don't know how to do it. will ask the person who writes scripts to do this

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have you used createVehicleCrew or not?

untold sky Oct 19, 2020, 4:43 PM

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I hope you're copy pasting all that info into a ticket meowtrash

fickle root Oct 19, 2020, 5:07 PM

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even better described in the ticket )))
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154433 - Tank AI commander with 0 ammo, makes player as gunner reloading 7.62 mm coaxial machinegun after each shot, if/after enemy AI get spotted

sterile nova Oct 19, 2020, 5:11 PM

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heh, I remember that bug http://feedback.rhsmods.org/view.php?id=2290

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I've seen some ticket about it somewhere on official bug tracker too but it had some really weird name

fickle root Oct 19, 2020, 5:56 PM

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and this also needs to be fixed, because it's deadly, when you switch seats and the turret is not where it should be (like on most other armor).
so you have to rotate it to where it should be first, before shooting and it can often enough be already too late, since you can easily get hit by enemy while spending time rotating the turret to where it should have been initially, if it was done/working correctly.
https://feedback.bistudio.com/T148411 - List of vehicles with commander turret not returned back by AI to vehicle's direction, when player switches to another seat

fickle root Oct 19, 2020, 10:21 PM

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reyhard is there a reason why when you order AI gunner to fire from commander seat, it only fires missiles and from 120/125 mm cannon, but not from 7.62/12.7/30/40 mm as long as you keep pressing LMB/Ctrl+LMB?
It's because if they could, they would have fired only 1 bullet each time you press LMB/Ctrl+LMB and then you would have to press again to fire each next bullet?, so not possible to keep firing as long as you keep LMB/Ctrl+LMB pressed?

sterile nova Oct 20, 2020, 4:53 AM

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Coax mg routine is more autonomous - ai fires at enemy targets automatically unless you order hold fire

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Therefor, orders work for mgs more as a toggle

fickle root Oct 20, 2020, 7:56 AM

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reyhard is there any reason why in Panther and Bobcat you as commander can manually fire the guns, even when turned out, but not for any other armor?

gray wharf Oct 20, 2020, 7:59 AM

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wait, don't use up your reyhard time on only possible issues, keep him focused on potentially fixable bugs 😄 devtime is a limited resource after all!

fickle root Oct 20, 2020, 7:59 AM

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Other armor is missing "Manual fire" when turned out as commander or it's there, but doesn't let you give orders to the gunner or it lets you give orders, but they don't get executed, even if it's missiles or 120/125 mm cannons

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The bug is either Panther/Bobcat commander being able to use gunner's gun to remotely fire when turned out as commander, other armor not being able to do same or other armor having Manual fire when commander turned out, despite it not being supposed to work

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wait, don't use up your reyhard time on only possible issues, keep him focused on potentially fixable bugs 😄 devtime is a limited resource after all!
@gray wharf there are 4 very important tickets I still can't finish since a long time, because it's very time consuming, since it has to be manually checked for each object and structure in Arma.
It's all the objects/structures:

through which grenades should be able to pass through, but can't
through which grenades shouldn't be able to pass through, but can
-through which AI can see and shoot, but shouldn't
-through which AI can't see and shoot, but should

sterile nova Oct 20, 2020, 8:21 AM

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@desert trench it can be partially solved by adding weaponLockDelay. @simple shuttle was testing it on PSZ mod

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as for manual fire - isn't it because of FFV?

desert trench Oct 20, 2020, 8:22 AM

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hm interesting idea

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it would need canLock then for the ammo, right? checking BIKI

sterile nova Oct 20, 2020, 8:23 AM

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afair no. You can check how it works in PSZ

fickle root Oct 20, 2020, 8:23 AM

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Actually not really, since for most armor there is no FFV for commander(s).
So you can select "Manual fire" when turned out, but it doesn't work at all

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So I wanted to clarify before making a ticket or several of them, depending on your response

sterile nova Oct 20, 2020, 8:27 AM

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dunno, it's working for me when there is no FFV 🤷‍♂️

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t100 - working, FV-720 - not working due to FFV

fickle root Oct 20, 2020, 8:29 AM

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For few vehicles where turned out commander can FFV, there is no "Manual fire" available and this is what I wanted to be adressed as well, since it should be possible?
Because when you're as driver with horn or as commander turned in with available commander gun by pressing LMB, you still can order to fire or change ammo type by bypassing LMB with Ctrl+LMB.
So I imagine one could make bypass FFV with LMB also with Ctrl+LMB

sterile nova Oct 20, 2020, 8:30 AM

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no idea, sounds like a new feature then

fickle root Oct 20, 2020, 8:32 AM

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Also I see there is armor, where there's no FFV when turned out, because of textures hindering the potential movement of the rifle to aim.

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But there is other armor and seats where you can turn out and there is nothing hindering the potential movement of the rifle to aim/shoot properly, but for some reason(s) FFV is not done there

fickle root Oct 20, 2020, 9:28 AM

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t100 - working, FV-720 - not working due to FFV
@sterile nova you most certainly have only checked if "Manual fire" action is present on Varsuk or not - not if it's working or not.
You can select "Manual fire" in Varsuk when turned out as commander, yes, but you can't shoot with LBM or Ctrl+LMB - nothing happens. Same goes for both Rhinos and Kuma. Works fine on Angara and Slammer.
They all have "Manual fire", but once selected - nothing happens when pressing LMB or Ctrl+LMB.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeULs6mb11M

on Varsuk and both Rhinos, when turned out as commander, you can give order to AI gunner to fire 125/120 mm cannon, but nothing happens. Works fine on Angara, Slammer and Kuma.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XhtJ5Eau60
on Kamysh, when turned out as commander, you can't even give any order at all, to change ammo type, to cycle to 2 Titan AT missiles and to order to fire them - nothing happens. Works fine on Gorgon with same turret.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRG12oSrpVE

Slammer is the only tank to have FFV for commander. Varsuk, Angara, Kuma and Rhinos don't have FFV for commanders

I can make a ticket about all of this or split it in several separate tickets.

sterile nova Oct 20, 2020, 9:41 AM

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I can fire with LMB on t100 commander seat with manual fire

fickle root Oct 20, 2020, 9:42 AM

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like you can see in the vid attached - I can't. no mods and current stable. and never could, even <2.00

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and I haven't unassigned/changed any buttons, like LMB, otherwise it wouldn't have worked to fire with no problems from other tanks

sterile nova Oct 20, 2020, 9:44 AM

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not sure then but I was able to do it

fickle root Oct 20, 2020, 9:48 AM

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@daring wagon @uncut briar can you please spawn T-100 Varsuk in the editor with full crew and as commander turn out, select "Manual fire", switch to 125 mm cannon and see if you can fire it simply by clicking on left mouse button or if it's not working (nothing happens)?

uncut briar Oct 20, 2020, 9:48 AM

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No, please don't ping me for such stuff.

fickle root Oct 20, 2020, 9:51 AM

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reyhard I'm running 2.00.146773 (current stable) + Arma 3 Apex keyboard preset.
do you run same build and also A3 Apex keyboard preset or do you use different build and Arma 2, Arma 3 or Industry Standard keyboard preset?

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in my video, me as commander in Varsuk, you can even see the order to fire 125 mm cannon several times in the chat and you can also hear the order each time I press LMB, but AI gunner doesn't fire it

gray wharf Oct 20, 2020, 9:56 AM

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@fickle root indeed please don't tag other members for your own issues, thanks. /mod

fickle root Oct 20, 2020, 12:40 PM

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reyhard, I found the culprit!!! The problems I have are when I play with Arma 3 Apex keyboard preset. when I switch to Arma 3 keyboard preset, Varsuk works fine!

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so the problem is then still there. Selecting Arma 3 Apex keyboard preset shouldn't break anything (while it does break it)
since in Arma 3 Apex keyboard preset, buttons to fire and change ammo type, LMB/Ctrl+LMB and F/Ctrl+F are same as for Arma 3 keyboard preset

gray wharf Oct 20, 2020, 12:42 PM

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but it is hopefully not an engine issue - just a keybind issue, phew

fickle root Oct 20, 2020, 12:49 PM

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so then I will make a ticket, since my videos above are valid, provided I use Arma 3 Apex keyboard preset, instead of Arma 3 keyboard preset

finite anvil Oct 20, 2020, 1:05 PM

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Is it a known problem that arma3diag wipes an eden mission when trying to preview in MP?

alpine tulip Oct 20, 2020, 1:06 PM

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Diag doesn't have MP IIRC?

finite anvil Oct 20, 2020, 1:07 PM

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might not but still wipes the mission in eden

fickle root Oct 20, 2020, 2:20 PM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154445 - BTR-K Kamysh has no possibility for player as commander to cycle through different armament types (Ctrl+F), when turned out, unlike AFV-4 Gorgon with same turret/armament

gray wharf Oct 20, 2020, 2:24 PM

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thank you very much for this report, you spent some time on this issue

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btw, was this "open/closed window LOD" thing mostly solved in 2.00, and remaining only a couple?

fickle root Oct 20, 2020, 2:55 PM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154446 - Left Mouse Button and Ctrl+LMB don't work to manually fire or order the AI gunner to fire from 120/125 mm cannon, when player is turned out as commander (using Arma 3 Apex keyboard preset) in T-100 Varsuk and Rhino MGS (UP)

desert trench Oct 20, 2020, 3:43 PM

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@finite anvil wipe in what sense?

finite anvil Oct 20, 2020, 3:45 PM

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on diag in eden try to preview a mission, all mission objects are deleted and the mission is saved instantly

untold sky Oct 20, 2020, 3:49 PM

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Ticket please

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sounds plausible

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though not sure if worth fixing

finite anvil Oct 20, 2020, 3:53 PM

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hmmm actually its not "really" wiped. it just empties all mission objects but you can reload the mission again.

gray wharf Oct 20, 2020, 3:53 PM

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cleared, but not saved?

finite anvil Oct 20, 2020, 3:53 PM

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it's weird

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I'll make a FT ticket with a video

finite anvil Oct 20, 2020, 4:19 PM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T154452

simple shuttle Oct 20, 2020, 4:27 PM

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@desert trench just beware AI will not fire automatic weapons from vehicles if they have weaponLockDelay, so use it either for main guns or infantry weapons.

desert trench Oct 20, 2020, 4:41 PM

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thanks 🙇 the main gun is the main culprit. so should be fine 🙂

hollow kelp Oct 21, 2020, 8:56 AM

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Hello, I would like to report a bug that i noticed after an update in early 2020 and its still presant to this day (atleast for me and for 3 people that i play arma with, that also noticed it after same update): When using magified optic (except the RCO fammily of scopes) there apeares blur on the sides of the screen and stays there after u switch to cqb sight and the only way to get rid of it on cqb sight is to stop aiming and aim again while set on cqb sight.

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I also made screenshots but i dont have the option to post them in this server.

gray wharf Oct 21, 2020, 8:59 AM

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@hollow kelp you can link to an image hoster

hollow kelp Oct 21, 2020, 8:59 AM

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i made screenshots via steam

fickle root Oct 21, 2020, 8:59 AM

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just post link(s) to your screens

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then upload them to something like imgur.com

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and post link(s) here

hollow kelp Oct 21, 2020, 9:00 AM

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ok i will try to do something to post them

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https://i.imgur.com/ObNairo.jpg

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https://i.imgur.com/xNsZXvn.jpg

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https://i.imgur.com/FUBOUlV.jpg

gray wharf Oct 21, 2020, 9:11 AM

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seems not Vanilla? reproducible without any mods?

hollow kelp Oct 21, 2020, 9:11 AM

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i didnt have mods enabled while doing this

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with mods its even worse theres blur even on handful non magnified optic (RHS mod)

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i mostly play on vanilla 1st p only koth srevers where i first noticed that

gray wharf Oct 21, 2020, 9:15 AM

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which optics?
also, some keep the + zoom when leaving the optic

hollow kelp Oct 21, 2020, 9:16 AM

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in vanilla its all optic that u can zoom 3x or more, there is a thing with dms optic when i start zooming, if the setting is on cqb sight, the magnifed sight wont get blured

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for me: RCO scopes are fine, DMS half bugged, AMS, kahila, MOS, LRPS are completely bugged

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also sights on rangefinders, binoculars and launcher scopes also get blurred

fickle root Oct 21, 2020, 9:39 AM

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make a screenshot of AA & PP section of your in-game video options

hollow kelp Oct 21, 2020, 9:40 AM

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ok

vale wasp Oct 21, 2020, 9:41 AM

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that sounds like this issue: https://feedback.bistudio.com/T80695

hollow kelp Oct 21, 2020, 9:41 AM

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i have blur, bloom and d.o.f. on 0 i also tried it with all of them =/ 0, but it didnt help, only suppressed a bit

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https://i.imgur.com/VB2YORn.jpg ( AA&PP section)

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yes, seems to be the same issue that uzhjok posted the link

rapid wing Oct 21, 2020, 11:48 AM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T80695

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wasnt this thing supposed to be fixed quite a while ago?

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but in latest update is still not fixed

shadow beacon Oct 21, 2020, 11:54 AM

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It was fixed in one of the 1.9# patches IIRC. Seems like it's regressed again 😐

sterile nova Oct 21, 2020, 11:55 AM

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blur for optics was broken completely since 1.64. I fixed it in 1.96 but since issue with optic switching blur was never resolved, the issue reappeared

rapid wing Oct 21, 2020, 11:56 AM

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that sucks :/

narrow beacon Oct 21, 2020, 12:38 PM

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I hope to write in the right channel, "playing" with the editor I discovered that the AI detects a "civilian" lying down, as an obstacle, not shooting at the target, but merely pointing it. has it already been reported or am I the first to notice?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIJNMd1Ufno&feature=youtu.be

hollow kelp Oct 21, 2020, 12:46 PM

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I got that bug after an 1.9-ish update where it said somthing about fixing an optic and blur related bug

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but before that all my optics were fine

hollow vapor Oct 22, 2020, 11:05 AM

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Was it in long grass?

fickle root Oct 22, 2020, 1:39 PM

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reyhard, is it technically possible to simply disable FFV as turned out commander, if/as long as "Manual fire" was implemented/selectable in vehicles where turned out commander can only FFV right now?
so one can LMB and/or F to manually fire and/or cycle through different armament types

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or if FFV is forced because of you being turned out as commander and not possible to disable it
then still make "Manual fire" available/selectable, but using Ctrl+LMB and/or Ctrl+F, same as when controlling AI gunner, to avoid interfering with forced and not possible to disable FFV when turned out as commander?

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hope for your reaction on this subject

fickle root Oct 22, 2020, 2:03 PM

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and when you disable "Manual fire" again, then you have FFV

sterile nova Oct 22, 2020, 2:46 PM

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I don't think it's possible to do via config

fickle root Oct 22, 2020, 3:04 PM

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deeper changes are excluded?

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only config level ones?

sterile nova Oct 22, 2020, 3:11 PM

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I mean, it could be doable in engine but I've never dwelled into FFV code. Maybe Dedmen would be interested but no idea how much work it would be

fickle root Oct 22, 2020, 3:16 PM

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well, there are things to do that are more important than this then

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performance optimization and other improvements/fixes

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is there a way to visualize the area for doors of fences, seats of vehicles and ladders, in which open/close, get in, climb up/down is working?

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I imagine it's a cone with degrees and distance at which such actions work/appear or not?
or another shape and not 2D, but even 3D?

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or is it just that you need to point at a certain place and then if you're close enough, it will make the action appear?

untold sky Oct 22, 2020, 3:27 PM

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Maybe Dedmen would be interested

gray wharf Oct 22, 2020, 3:27 PM

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you sleep at work, right?

untold sky Oct 22, 2020, 3:28 PM

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think_turtle

gray wharf Oct 22, 2020, 3:28 PM

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(under the desk, I mean. not "on the job" 😄)

untold sky Oct 22, 2020, 3:29 PM

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concrete floor, no couch

hardy matrix Oct 22, 2020, 3:37 PM

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you sleep at work, right?
My dad too on nightshifts he always sleep on floor or on chair