#ip_rights_violations

rapid wagon Mar 11, 2019, 3:57 PM

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fallout 4 assets
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1670973204&searchtext=

brisk ember Mar 11, 2019, 4:11 PM

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and the clothes ^: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1285636607

brisk ember Mar 11, 2019, 4:34 PM

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I'd swear this says you can't port it https://bethesda.net/en/document/terms-of-service

faint nacelle Mar 11, 2019, 5:35 PM

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there was something about free to use non commercially within the product (the fallout game)

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so it may have been misunderstood

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I would agree that rarely game companies release their assets to be freely used

brisk ember Mar 11, 2019, 7:33 PM

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Asked Bethesda for clarification

carmine folio Mar 12, 2019, 12:58 AM

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RH, Australia map and more
https://steamcommunity.com/id/delexical_main/myworkshopfiles/
@carmine folio

brisk ember Mar 12, 2019, 7:37 AM

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Look deleted or set to friends-only

soft egret Mar 12, 2019, 9:16 AM

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@pastel hull:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1671454405
HAFM, SabreD's stuff, Murshun Cigs, TF47 launchers.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1668071101
HAFM. SabreD's stuff, Benelli M4 Super 90 Pack by Purple
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1665382924
3DEN Enhanced, Enhanced Movement, grad trenches, Advanced Urban Rappelling, JonBons Enhanced Launchers, murshun cigs, Ares, Achilles.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1560228590
SabreD's stuff.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1555912648
SabreD's stuff.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1525195896
Benelli M4 Super 90 Pack by Purple, Tactical Hand Signals by Zigomarvin
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1337039741
3DEN Enhanced, SabreD's stuff, Tac Vests, TF47 Launchers, Ares, Achilles, MGSR Headbag, SFP_bo105

@pastel hull you have one week to clean all of that up. It violates the Steam Subscriber Agreement and our #rules to just reupload other peoples stuff.
If you don't fix it you will receive a Ban on all BI platforms (Discords and Forums).

wraith comet Mar 12, 2019, 11:53 PM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1680960913&searchtext=
australia.pbo

soft egret Mar 13, 2019, 4:09 PM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1634535778 CUP Weapons

dull moon Mar 13, 2019, 4:10 PM

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Thx

soft egret Mar 13, 2019, 4:10 PM

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Was searching for a server with same name that sounded suspicious. Think this isn't it though.
Seems they are using a3sync

dull moon Mar 13, 2019, 4:10 PM

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Haven't got much time lately to do much DMCA stuff, i'll put it on my list

soft egret Mar 13, 2019, 4:10 PM

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same here

lapis juniper Mar 13, 2019, 9:50 PM

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So lets say theres a arma community that is monetized and has a paywall and features stuff like: the hummingbird, quad bike, speedboat,and the .408 rifle (which is also has config altered to work as a vehicle disable rifle) would that constitute a violation ?

brisk ember Mar 13, 2019, 9:59 PM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1639424339&searchtext=
UH60
Kimi's HMD
TTT Weapons
GPNVG18
COS
EODS
STUI
Enhanced Movement
some CUP file "CUP_BaseConfigs" @dull moon
TFA
Headlights
Kyo MH47E

narrow topaz Mar 13, 2019, 10:01 PM

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@lapis juniper If those items are unavailable to non-donors, yes

brisk ember Mar 13, 2019, 10:01 PM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1440575566

HLC
FHQ

lapis juniper Mar 13, 2019, 10:02 PM

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well its avalible for everyone but inorder to even join the community its a 14.99$ paywall

brisk ember Mar 13, 2019, 10:02 PM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1440491939

Taunus
PRA
MBG
Pulau
VT5
EFM
PLP Beach Objects

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1440570976
ITC land
FIR
"TF KSS"?
MB Insignia

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1440562907
BDF (?)
MEA (?)
EA18G
SIMC (?)

narrow topaz Mar 13, 2019, 10:05 PM

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You can force people to pay to play on the server

minor herald Mar 13, 2019, 10:10 PM

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If they are on the monetized server list and along with what Ghashes says then they can do it. They must also have permission to monetize for mod owners if they are using mods.

If they modified the config and the license from the mod prohibites it(no derivatives) then that's an issue too, but this is just based on what you said. Would need more details to make a conclusion

narrow topaz Mar 13, 2019, 10:12 PM

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.408 is vanilla. My guess would be they're just using an event handler rather than having modified a config. But what he^ said

brisk ember Mar 13, 2019, 10:42 PM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1405658689

ADV ACE
Align
Enhanced Movement
cTab
FIR AWS
Immerse
Ares
JSRS @fallow stag
Kimi HMDs
KKA3 ACE Extensions
Kyo MH47E
Lingor/Dingor
RPGTard
SMA
UH60

echo hazel Mar 13, 2019, 11:14 PM

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wow, youre on fire today

brisk ember Mar 13, 2019, 11:15 PM

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it was just the first 2-3 pages of the steam workshop highlights today

echo hazel Mar 13, 2019, 11:16 PM

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i cant believe people are so open and blatant about these violations

brisk ember Mar 13, 2019, 11:16 PM

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ignorant or believe no one can touch them

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or simply don't care

echo hazel Mar 13, 2019, 11:17 PM

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well, youre doing the lords work

brisk ember Mar 13, 2019, 11:17 PM

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That'd be timing out their Steam Workshop access so no, not the Lord's work.

lapis juniper Mar 14, 2019, 6:42 AM

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Hey so i was asked by unit to pack a bunch of mods into one so that their people dont have to download 40 different mods. If i pack em for them is that violating ? Even though they dnt monetize nor take any money from anyone whatsoever? I just wanna make sure because these guys are a great group of ppl nd i dont wanna end up getting them in trouble.

potent onyx Mar 14, 2019, 7:11 AM

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Dont pack and reupload any mods you didnt make. Refer them to the steam workshops built in collection system instead

burnt oak Mar 14, 2019, 7:42 AM

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Even better, make an empty mod and set the mods you want as a requirement, the A3 launcher will automatically download them and pick them as well.

chilly silo Mar 14, 2019, 7:42 AM

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@lapis juniper Section 6D of the Steam agreements prohibits uploading of content you do not own or dont have permission to reupload

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Reuploading is a great way to get DMCA'd 😉

lapis juniper Mar 14, 2019, 7:53 AM

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I mean i know how dmca works trust me .. nd i know their limits: Dmca doesnt worry me , ive just never uploaded to workshop so , i dnt know how steam does their thing with these .. but yeah, thanks 4 help! Ill be turning to plan b then aha.

soft egret Mar 14, 2019, 8:15 AM

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Reuploading to Steam will not only get you a DMCA. It violates #rules and will get you banned from the Arma Discord and Bohemia Forum.

wraith comet Mar 14, 2019, 10:10 AM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1682185683
SMA
RH_xxx
MBG_xxx
HLC_xxx
CSW_xxx
facepalm

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1650387665
TFAR

soft egret Mar 14, 2019, 10:12 AM

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https://steamcommunity.com/id/kojixusmain/myworkshopfiles/ 👀

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TFAR 1.0 🔥 🚓

wraith comet Mar 14, 2019, 9:18 PM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1682585575&searchtext=
Underground_Data.ebo
Xiphoid87_Base.ebo
Xiphoid87_RangeRover_SVR.ebo
Xiphoid87_Veh_sounds.ebo

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Xiphoid87
https://forums.bohemia.net/profile/1139767-xiphoid87/
https://steamcommunity.com/id/BiteWing/myworkshopfiles/?appid=107410
^
His WKS uploads contain EBO`s

humble ember Mar 15, 2019, 1:37 AM

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anzus gaming really needs to be taken down 😮 just throwing it out there.

wraith comet Mar 15, 2019, 2:36 AM

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ANZUSGaming Kamdan Life
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1332480064
TaunusObjects.pbo
SAB_XXX
RH_XXX
australia.pbo

humble ember Mar 15, 2019, 3:16 AM

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@wraith comet also > https://www.arma3lifescripts.com/

stoic beacon Mar 15, 2019, 6:14 AM

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@echo orchid

fossil basalt Mar 15, 2019, 7:32 AM

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For those saying "I wish X server gets shut down soon" or "When will X server be punished for illegally monetising", etc. , my first question is "Have YOU reported it to BI"? This is specifically directed at unauthorised monetisation, RE of BI content, BI Eula violations, etc. Dropping a link in this channel does nothing, you must sent reports to infringements@bistudio.com

soft egret Mar 15, 2019, 7:42 AM

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Anzus gaming has been reported half a dozen times now. And that's only me.

humble ember Mar 15, 2019, 9:40 AM

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I've reported anzus gaming also, via email. Was told to contact them via the website and did, now havent got a reply

narrow topaz Mar 15, 2019, 12:56 PM

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I reported Anzus 2 months ago, I know Ded reported them long before that. They lost their monetization approval in November, and it's now March. https://discordapp.com/channels/105462288051380224/105792634995388416/535219036611674133 was when I reported 'em

lapis juniper Mar 15, 2019, 1:08 PM

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Well frim what i hve gathered that , If ur outside of the US i heard Dmca cant touch you as they only operate withing the US but idk thats what ive heard ... maybe thats why some face swift fast response and action , while others it takes longer? Idk just thought id share that

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Sry for grammar/spelling errors ... fat finger problems on mobile = no good 😦 lol

narrow topaz Mar 15, 2019, 1:10 PM

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If they're using Battleye, Bohemia has a switch that can force-kick anyone who joins their server. Doesn't have to go through any sort of long legal process

broken hornet Mar 15, 2019, 4:36 PM

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I’ve reported anzus aswell a few months ago

wraith comet Mar 15, 2019, 5:04 PM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1682384433&searchtext=
mbg_killhouses_a3.pbo
Veteran mod (VTN)

soft egret Mar 15, 2019, 5:06 PM

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@tranquil grail moving to #other_ip_topics

inland scarab Mar 15, 2019, 5:58 PM

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If I were to play a famous song on guitar and use that extension for the acoustic guitar mod; would DMCA get me?

soft egret Mar 15, 2019, 5:59 PM

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I don't think so... Ask the owner of the rights to that famous song

inland scarab Mar 15, 2019, 5:59 PM

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I don’t think they would; but I’d rather not have that head ache.

chrome star Mar 15, 2019, 9:39 PM

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I think that counts as fair use doesn't it? If it's 100% your own cover of the song

soft egret Mar 15, 2019, 9:40 PM

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Nah. Depends on many factors I think

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Like Disney stuff. Even if you make a Darth Vader painting 100% yourself. It's still Disney IP

dull moon Mar 15, 2019, 11:31 PM

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a little different with music. a cover's IP belongs to the creator 100%

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therefore you're good with using a cover YOU created

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a little different with music. a cover's IP belongs to the creator 100%
this will be a huge problem for upload filters and article 13

wraith comet Mar 15, 2019, 11:53 PM

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Time to get the pitchfork and torch ready

chilly silo Mar 15, 2019, 11:59 PM

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RE Cover songs - worth doing some decent research. https://www.ipwatchdog.com/2017/05/29/musicians-protect-music-intellectual-property/id=83619/

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“When it comes to recording, musicians can legally record and perform cover songs, but they have a few hoops to jump through first,” she explained. “Once a song has been previously recorded and commercially released, any artist may record a cover and can distribute it after obtaining a mechanical license from the rights holder, that is, the owner of the copyright in the composition. Mechanical royalties must then be paid to the publisher of the composition.”

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https://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2017/07/the-legalities-behind-a-cover-song-draft.html

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AND so much depends on the region you are in and the agreement it has with the nation of origin re Copyright and IP

lapis juniper Mar 16, 2019, 4:53 AM

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https://altliferpg.com/
-TFAR

mm_fence,bank,building,post,residential (Mods separated in individual pbos)
Taunus_aiatp,bridge,misc,objects,wall
PLP
link to their mod download - https://drive.google.com/open?id=14TfuGZlwWAUTRydJfrHIhgBoCSHoLR0b

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i would tag ppl but i know my dumb ass will prob tag the wrong people lmao

royal charm Mar 16, 2019, 6:34 AM

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Plp is allowed to be repackaged

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The other stuff is a no no though

lapis juniper Mar 16, 2019, 7:15 AM

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Ahh ok , dooley noted 👍

soft egret Mar 16, 2019, 10:50 AM

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TFAR is APL licensed. It can be distributed on any platform that allows it. So that's fine.
AltLife is also monetized and has permission for TFAR.
I wonder about their Taunus permission though. Taunus is CC BY-NC-SA 🤔
I'll ask them about it

wraith comet Mar 16, 2019, 1:12 PM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1683330922
JSRS

Same user
https://steamcommunity.com/id/asDK23WHAJW/myworkshopfiles/?appid=107410
more reuploads

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1673776055
Full list: https://pastebin.com/7wP85TeS
KKA3_ACE_Extension_Anim_A2.pbo
grad_trenches_main.pbo
kka3_TFAR_Animations.pbo
diwako_ace_ragdolling.pbo
mbg_killhouses_a3.pbo

stoic beacon Mar 16, 2019, 2:36 PM

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Thanks, I'll take care of it if it's still there tomorrow

brisk ember Mar 16, 2019, 3:37 PM

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@fallow stag ^

fallow stag Mar 16, 2019, 4:07 PM

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Thank you guys for taking care of these things. I get messages like this on a daily basis by now, this is getting worse and worse 😬

wraith comet Mar 16, 2019, 4:47 PM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1683995758&searchtext=
fhq_weapons.pbo
HLC_X
JBAD
lingor_bank.pbo ?
mbg_generic_african_buildings.pbo
mbg_buildings_xxx
RH_M4.pbo and more
SMA

facepalm

dull moon Mar 16, 2019, 5:30 PM

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@fallow stag
It's not getting worse, it has been like this for too long. People just start to realize that this is BS and also start to report

brisk ember Mar 16, 2019, 5:35 PM

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Wish I got paid for this :P

stoic beacon Mar 16, 2019, 6:59 PM

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I'd pay you if you file the dmca's for me🙃

faint nacelle Mar 16, 2019, 8:58 PM

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you could hire him to do it

brisk ember Mar 16, 2019, 10:28 PM

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Ooooh I like the sound of that :P

merry kestrel Mar 16, 2019, 10:45 PM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1330047648 reupload of your pistols @blazing wyvern

royal charm Mar 17, 2019, 6:06 AM

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those comments though

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morons

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😆

lapis juniper Mar 17, 2019, 6:28 AM

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I dnt understand what “all credit goes to the content creator” like yooo if u wanna give credit howabout you actully say his name? Lmao

twilit patrol Mar 17, 2019, 7:36 AM

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lmao

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this mod is called "Robert Hammer Pistols Pack Reupload"

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so isnt that clear enough for anyone?

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anyway reuploads with out permission are forbidden so w/e

wraith comet Mar 17, 2019, 12:19 PM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1685452821
RDS Civilian

wooden ingot Mar 17, 2019, 12:36 PM

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I don't mind as long as it's not some commercial bullshit

echo orchid Mar 17, 2019, 12:56 PM

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@wooden ingot i thought i taught you better 😄

echo hazel Mar 17, 2019, 7:55 PM

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are "all-in-one" mods allowed?

vast notch Mar 17, 2019, 7:56 PM

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@echo hazel any mod which re-uploads others work to Steam Workshop is forbidden by Steam T&C

echo hazel Mar 17, 2019, 7:57 PM

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So this: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1599279307&searchtext= is a no-go?

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I wanted to download it but thought maybe it would be DMCA'd soon

vast notch Mar 17, 2019, 7:57 PM

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If the uploader isn't the JSRS author then it's not allowed

echo hazel Mar 17, 2019, 7:58 PM

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Well he obviously isnt @fallow stag

fallow stag Mar 17, 2019, 8:39 PM

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It's not mine, so it should not be there

wraith comet Mar 17, 2019, 9:31 PM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1686208791
"arma 3 fort jackon traning map"

brisk ember Mar 17, 2019, 10:00 PM

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@royal charm didn't PTF create the Fort Jackson map?

royal charm Mar 17, 2019, 10:04 PM

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negative, we created a training map but it wasnt fort jackson

polar finch Mar 18, 2019, 1:06 AM

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http://www.minority-project.eu/downloads/Site/ (German, translation needed)
is a GUI editor for 10€ for Arma 3. Can’t tell if it’s breaking ToS for using BI software/code or not.
Possible to get a quick confirmation „this is ok“ on that tool?

royal charm Mar 18, 2019, 3:27 AM

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@polar finch On first look, it looks like it handles everything outside of game (the user ports it themselves), so I think that would be alright, as it would fall under similar territory as Mikeros tools.

Of course, can't know for sure without downloading it, and can't download without paying, sooooooooo 😆

lapis juniper Mar 18, 2019, 1:33 PM

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Uhhhh i wanna report some1 for violation but given the fact that this modpack the person uses in particular somehow contains source, i dnt wanna link it publically. Uhhh what would best course of action be? Maybe someone in the mood for a fat dmca wanna pm me ? Bec like i said these files sre extremely sensative as they contain full source and i dnt want it further getting out there by linking it pubically.

soft egret Mar 18, 2019, 1:34 PM

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directly message the owner of the stuff that's been reuploaded there. Or message the E-Mail in channel description if the owner is Bohemia

lapis juniper Mar 18, 2019, 1:35 PM

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Idk , who owns CL3? Im not at all familuar with that community

soft egret Mar 18, 2019, 1:36 PM

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@astral marlin

lapis juniper Mar 18, 2019, 1:36 PM

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Ahh oki thanks @soft egret appreciate it 😃

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Ps... tagging ur name just now legit confused tf outa me because of all the symbols in ur name lmao

soft egret Mar 18, 2019, 1:40 PM

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Thank you. I feel proud now 😄

brisk ember Mar 18, 2019, 1:48 PM

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Dedmen is confusing per standard

lapis juniper Mar 18, 2019, 2:06 PM

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Dont needa say that twice aha , im still trying to figure out if hes dedmen the modeler for cars or the dude who made tfar lmaoo

soft egret Mar 18, 2019, 2:06 PM

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there is a car modeler called dedmen? 😄

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there also isn't a dedmen that made tfar.
There is just a dedmen that's maintaining TFAR and "made" TFAR 1.0 ^^

lapis juniper Mar 18, 2019, 2:08 PM

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Ahhhh okay ... yeah theres a dude who like supposedly trained red the dev nd his name is the same atleast the way i hear ppl pronounce it

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Atleast thats what i was told, ive been away from the arma development side of things for the last 2 yrs as i was busy with my role in a3pl but now that i recelty have been sent on a “perm vacation” i turned back to the old dev community but all these names are soo unfamiluar with me lmaoo

royal charm Mar 18, 2019, 4:34 PM

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Probably best not to identify yourself with A3PL in public 😆

soft egret Mar 18, 2019, 4:34 PM

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A3PL is clean tho.

royal charm Mar 18, 2019, 4:35 PM

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I mean, they've "accidentally" stolen things, like when they used a ripped lambo model.

brisk ember Mar 18, 2019, 4:36 PM

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What's with the alphabet shift from P to R? 🤔

royal charm Mar 18, 2019, 4:37 PM

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There's also some other... stuff, that happened there, but not appropriate for #ip_rights_violations.

echo hazel Mar 18, 2019, 4:38 PM

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Ok, so we all know that re-uploading to the workshop is a violation, what if someone creates a modpack with stolen content then sends the file directly to someone?

royal charm Mar 18, 2019, 4:39 PM

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well if the content is stolen, it's stolen, so it's a nogo.

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But if the mod is clean, and you repack pbo's into one folder and put in a private area (like a3sync), it is okay depending on the license. Some licenses still do not allow that though.

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So you gotta do your due diligence and check the licenses.

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For example, the UNSUNG mod doesn't allow distribution anywhere, including Arma 3 Sync

echo hazel Mar 18, 2019, 4:41 PM

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I dont think anyone would want to with how big that file is anyway lol

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Yeah i was just asking because some guys i play with are bragging about "cheating the system"

brisk ember Mar 18, 2019, 4:42 PM

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there's no permanent way of cheating the system

royal charm Mar 18, 2019, 4:42 PM

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I mean, a lot of people are hosting Unsung on arma 3 sync, though they technically aren't allowed.

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😆

brisk ember Mar 18, 2019, 4:42 PM

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If author finds out, you bet they'll be hunted down like dogs

soft egret Mar 18, 2019, 4:44 PM

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Most modders are fine with private redistribution (which arma3sync counts as). Many forbid public redistribution, and Steam itself forbids sharing anything you didn't make

lapis juniper Mar 18, 2019, 4:55 PM

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Oh no im on very bad terms with those clowns theres a whole lot of shady shit happeningover there , ive legit written a 30 page document about it all lmao

royal charm Mar 18, 2019, 4:57 PM

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30 page document about what? I've got to assume there must be a better use of your time 😆 either way this is probably more for #other_ip_topics , since they try to keep #ip_rights_violations clear so they can actually see the violations/reports.

wraith comet Mar 19, 2019, 1:19 AM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1686707968&searchtext= facepalm
Credits to rightfull owners/creators
Adacas
Andrew_S90
Assaultboy
Benno
BlackPixexl
Burnes15th
B. Pitts
CBA Team
Dedmen Miller
DerZade
Duda
Fingolfin_A3
Frau Farbissina
Jarrad96
Katie Byrne
KeyboardOreos
Konyo123
Kydoimos
LAxemann
MakTheBlade
Mharris001
Misfit*TM
NKey
Patch
RobertHammer
SiegeA
SoronElite
SpyderBlack723
Still A Lime
Tehaa
TheMidnightCrow
Uriki
Vin.
Virtual
Zabuza
frankenstein_
lyotchik-sniper
monovdd & Lancaster Studio
muttley_rs
packet43
rebel

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we have no intent in stealing content.

runic gulch Mar 19, 2019, 3:25 AM

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👀

remote lodge Mar 19, 2019, 5:07 AM

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i have no reason to be here, i just like reading about the idiots whom still reupload stuff that isnt thiers

soft egret Mar 19, 2019, 12:02 PM

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In case someone has some free time https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198205734828/myworkshopfiles/
Need a list of the more important reuploads in all these items. Feel free to contact their authors. I don't have time to do it right now.
You'd also help the BIF moderation team with that.

brisk ember Mar 19, 2019, 12:13 PM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1462966838

RH @blazing wyvern
VSM Vests @carmine foliorrad96
POP (?)
Some stuff made by Repentz apparently
XCAM
Shounka Cars

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Everything is signed by Repentz?

soft egret Mar 19, 2019, 12:15 PM

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Yeah might be just copied modpacks from Repentz

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@pastel hull Reminder...
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1337039741
@dull moon TF47 Launchers
@sonic blade SFP_bo105
@spark bay 3DEN Enhanced
and more.
I gave you one week. Exactly 7 days ago. And it's still there.
So either you remove it right now, or you will get removed.

And don't even try to argue with me that you have permission, because it's clearly a lie.
http://sfp.anrop.se/license/

Also why is all of SabreD's stuff still in there? I thought I explained to you that APL license doesn't give you permission to reupload to the workshop?

brisk ember Mar 19, 2019, 12:16 PM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1458395846
TFAR @soft egret
Enhanced Movement
MGSR
GIGN
MM buildings
VVV characters (?)

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1449440549
A3L content
ASDG
BNAE (?)
CBA
CPE
D3S Vehicles
DRP
Feint's Sharks
NIArms
HMCS
Ivory Vehicles
JBAD
KA weapons
KIO's gear
MM buildings
PG Services
PLP
POP Vehicles
TFAR @soft egret
XCAM
TRYK
VVV

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1448587830
ASN data
GHOST clothing

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1440914873
CBA

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1439732889
TFAR @soft egret
A3L content
ASDG
CBA
Jonzie's vehicles
Ivory's Vehicles
MBG buildings
RH PDW @blazing wyvern

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1428750410
CBA "fix"

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1427449140
AUS Vehicles
CSW Weapons
Fox Vehicles
Jonzie Vehicles
KA weapons
SAB airplanes
Walker vehicles

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1398796508
AIF "All"
Iraqi Syrian Conflict
ISC ZU23
Project OPFOR
ISC vehicles

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That's his steam workshop analyzed @soft egret

soft egret Mar 19, 2019, 12:26 PM

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Thanks alot. I assume that'll end in a BIF ban. I'll forward that

dull moon Mar 19, 2019, 12:57 PM

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TF47 launchers is @carmine folio
No idea what he thinks of reups
@soft egret

soft egret Mar 19, 2019, 1:00 PM

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I have mentioned you about that a couple times in the past 🤔
Why was I thinking that it was yours?

dull moon Mar 19, 2019, 2:12 PM

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Maybe because we where in the same unit and i also released mods with TF47 tags

soft egret Mar 19, 2019, 2:27 PM

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Louw that talk was not related to your post btw

flint topaz Mar 19, 2019, 2:28 PM

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Oh nevermind then XD my bad

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COS

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=846603147
contains
MrSanchez' Headlamps (https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=930264602)

brisk ember Mar 19, 2019, 8:10 PM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1683093623&searchtext=
USAF @crisp dome
EricJ's content (EricJ not here?)
Firewill's content
CUP content @dull moon

The last three he has renamed as re-signed himself it seems.

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@echo orchid I see a renamed RHS pbo in there too

lapis juniper Mar 19, 2019, 11:33 PM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1637330320&searchtext=firestorm
Yikes idk where to start honestly...
-A3L Assets

Abruzzi Cars
ALR Assets
AR Advanced Repelling
ASN
BHD
CL3 Assets
CUP Terrains
EZRP Assets
FHQ Weapons
HLC Weapons
Jbad Assets
Jonzies vehicles
No Pixel Pack
MM
PMC Weapons
PLP
-POP
Reds Vehicles
TAS
TFAR @soft egret

... and like much much more , my hand started to hurt from writing all that out lmao. Sry i cant tag ppl because i dont know who anyone of those owners might be here (idk their discord user name)

lapis juniper Mar 20, 2019, 1:34 AM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1666347200&searchtext=Thorium

No Pixel Reupload

Charlieco89_PMA Vehicles
Burnes_Objects
asdg jointrails
PLP Markers nd Barriers
rh weapons @blazing wyvern
EF

humble ember Mar 20, 2019, 3:41 AM

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@royal charm keep it clear so they can see reports? They dont do anything anyway, what'd be the point

lone basin Mar 20, 2019, 7:11 AM

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@lapis juniper CharlieCo89 doesn't care about reuploads, most of his stuff is ripped from other games anyway.

echo orchid Mar 20, 2019, 7:52 AM

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@brisk ember will have a look, i am behind of slapping people around, cheers

soft egret Mar 20, 2019, 10:59 AM

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I haven't seen any proof suggesting otherwise.

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@astral marlin https://discordapp.com/channels/105462288051380224/105792634995388416/557708353577549834

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@humble ember For the mod makers to see the reports such that they can DMCA them, not for BI. BI isn't in here.

brisk ember Mar 20, 2019, 11:01 AM

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Someone hasn't seen the ton of DMCAs being filed or uploads marked incompatible with ARMA 3 due to reports here.

astral marlin Mar 20, 2019, 11:06 AM

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@soft egret reported but ive reported this one 2 time now they just reupload

soft egret Mar 20, 2019, 11:07 AM

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Just keep filing DMCA's I guess 😄 Someday Steam will ban them
Just pinging you to file the DMCA for me cuz I have no time today ^^

humble ember Mar 20, 2019, 11:22 AM

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@soft egret ahh gotcha, my bad.

amber eagle Mar 20, 2019, 3:29 PM

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Kind of glad I don't do modern stuff. A lot of these reuploads seem to be mostly limited to modern stuff.

wraith comet Mar 20, 2019, 3:49 PM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1687250796&searchtext=
sfp_bas90.pbo
sfp_objects.pbo
G9545_base.ebo
G9545_structure.ebo
G9545_Structure_1_2.ebo
G9545_Structure_1_3.ebo

brisk ember Mar 20, 2019, 4:32 PM

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@amber eagle you'll find it everywhere. WW2, 2035, SW, HALO. Those the mods themselves not often. Mostly QoL stuff (Quality of Life), e.g. small mods that introduce immersive features

gleaming belfry Mar 20, 2019, 5:31 PM

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What's this channel about? All I see is a bunch of people posting mod links 😛

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Or is it something that can be deleted/removed if people make a Disney mod?

soft egret Mar 20, 2019, 5:35 PM

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See channel description.

gleaming belfry Mar 20, 2019, 5:35 PM

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It doesn't really say much 😛

soft egret Mar 20, 2019, 5:37 PM

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This channel is about IP rights violations.
Illegal reuploads, people stealing stuff.

gleaming belfry Mar 20, 2019, 5:38 PM

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Ah

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Tyty

wraith comet Mar 20, 2019, 5:46 PM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1294477202
Terrain Mods:
G.O.S Al Rayak by GOS_Makhno
G.O.S N'ziwasogo by GOS_Makhno
G.O.S Leskovets by GOS_Makhno
G.O.S Gunkizli by GOS_Makhno
G.O.S N'Djenahoud by GOS_Makhno
G.O.S Song Bin Tanh 2.0 (APEX) by GOS_Makhno
Mountain Wilderness Terrain by BobTheHunted
BSOC Brasil by ViruzDeath & GSTAVO & Edu_br10
CLA CLAFGHAN by Nremik
Isla Abramia by IceBreakr
Island Panthera by IceBreakr
Lingor+Dingor Island by IceBreakr
Isla Duala by IceBreakr
Eladeen by Luca
Nam by Variable.A
Pandora by Variable.A
Todt by Variable.A
Kihnu Island previev by Waffel

lapis juniper Mar 20, 2019, 5:47 PM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1683508003

Reuploaded .. tons of mods but to list a few ..
PLP
TFAR @soft egret
D3S
CBA
Jonzies cars @olive bear
A3L
A3N
CW

soft egret Mar 20, 2019, 5:49 PM

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DMCA is out o7

lapis juniper Mar 20, 2019, 5:50 PM

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Cant blame people for taking icebreakrs stuff ... his maps are 👌😍

wraith comet Mar 20, 2019, 5:53 PM

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His maps are awesome but its still no reason to upload other ppls work, creating collections isnt that hard

soft egret Mar 20, 2019, 5:55 PM

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Aaand just filed another 3 DMCA's against monetization approved servers -.-

amber eagle Mar 20, 2019, 5:59 PM

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How do you find out if a server is monetized? It would be nice if the signature file prevented monetized servers from using it

lapis juniper Mar 20, 2019, 6:00 PM

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https://www.bohemia.net/monetization/approved/arma3

soft egret Mar 20, 2019, 6:05 PM

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GG. And AFTER they violate the monetization rules. and AFTER they use my stuff without permission and without even asking. and AFTER I DMCA them on steam, they come crawling and ask whether they can use my stuff.
Yeah.. No. Thanks. WTF is wrong with these people?

lapis juniper Mar 20, 2019, 6:06 PM

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🥴🥴🥴🥴

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Whereas if they asked u before they did anything .. they’d probably be okay and good to go with no issues

soft egret Mar 20, 2019, 6:09 PM

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Not really. I check their modpack before giving permission.
I would've found the dozen other mods they have in their pack that were made by authors who don't allow commercial use of their stuff.

lapis juniper Mar 20, 2019, 6:19 PM

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When a report gets filed how ling until action is actully taken agianst them? Bec like one olace i sooke to the owner of the community , told him that he shouldnt be reuploading because hell get spanked, his reply .... “i dont care nothings gonna happen”

soft egret Mar 20, 2019, 6:20 PM

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Report? weeks/months.
DMCA? days

lapis juniper Mar 20, 2019, 6:23 PM

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But dmca only acts if that specific contents creator has a membership with them correct?

soft egret Mar 20, 2019, 6:24 PM

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Only the content creator who's content has been stolen can file a DMCA. right.

wraith comet Mar 20, 2019, 6:31 PM

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https://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/#6

soft egret Mar 20, 2019, 7:51 PM

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Why does noone report them to BI monetization department then?

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they already have atleast half a dozen monetized subsidiaries now

lapis juniper Mar 20, 2019, 9:14 PM

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Ive reported servers before to them but honestly nothing ever came of it .. there was a server that legit only sold 7.62+ caliber rifles to peope who donated atleast 50$... they wanted me to donate 100$ just for a navid ... ive since keept reporting but yeah , nothing ever came of it. So i personally gave up trying

midnight crystal Mar 21, 2019, 1:40 AM

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is someone allowed to delete your map for using his mod as a dependency? https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1682981940&searchtext=

tulip nexus Mar 21, 2019, 2:21 AM

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I can’t imagine that would give steam any grounds to remove a terrain from workshop

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If it doesn’t contain any actual external data

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The best the person might hope for is go after servers hosting the terrain since it would mean hosting his .pbo too

brisk ember Mar 21, 2019, 2:42 AM

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~~LordJarhead#3376 ^~~ already reported @hidden scaffold

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the uploader's a modmaker himself... How low can one go...

hidden scaffold Mar 21, 2019, 2:52 AM

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ohhh, I saw a bunch of people saying it was a reupload. My bad

brisk ember Mar 21, 2019, 2:53 AM

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well, it is indeed a reupload 😉

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but was already posted here a day or so ago

hidden scaffold Mar 21, 2019, 2:54 AM

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ohh, I see

wraith comet Mar 21, 2019, 2:32 PM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1669071078
\addons\FIR_A10A.pbo
\addons\FIR_A10C_Cfg.pbo
\addons\FIR_AirWeaponSystem_US.pbo
\addons\FIR_F22.pbo

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1576645418
\addons\bozcaada.pbo
\addons\ruha.pbo
\addons\fallujah_hou1_2.pbo
\addons\projeta3-10.pbo
\addons\tem_anizay.pbo
\addons\fallujah1_2.pbo

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1667700690
\addons\kka3_TFAR_Animations.pbo
\addons\diwako_ace_ragdolling.pbo @burnt oak

wraith comet Mar 21, 2019, 4:30 PM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1689086324&searchtext=
mbg_buildings_x
mbg_killhouses_a3.pbo

stoic beacon Mar 21, 2019, 5:42 PM

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@proud flicker

wooden ingot Mar 22, 2019, 1:05 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZVFTf9lA5g it's all ripped, right?

YouTube

DerSpecht84

HOLLOW'S VEHICLE PACK V2.1 auf Exile

Wir haben so eben auf unseren Arma 3 Exile Server Ip: 85.93.88.172:2303 das HOLLOW'S VEHICLE PACK installiert es fügt dem exile server 15 neue fahrzeuge hinz...

▶ Play video

soft egret Mar 22, 2019, 1:06 PM

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Can't find any reference at all to the "author" of these. But one guy ain't gonna make so many different cars

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And.. These are all high quality models. So the author must have a sense for quality. But then.. 2:40 the hands aren't even correctly placed on the steering wheel. It seems like his sense for quality suddenly disappeared when making that part?
Or he just ripped them and that's why the hands don't fit.

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I don't play all these racing games where people rip their models out. So can't make out from which game some models might be

faint nacelle Mar 22, 2019, 1:12 PM

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those look like the basic cars that bounce around the model rip sites

chilly silo Mar 22, 2019, 1:15 PM

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What is it about primary colours and ripped content?

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Every ripped car pack is always lurid colours

wooden ingot Mar 22, 2019, 1:18 PM

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well, I guess there is no point in helping that guy then https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/222192-190-update-troubleshooting/?page=9&tab=comments#comment-3346436

Bohemia Interactive Forums

1.90 update - Troubleshooting

Ive installed a linux virtual machine with 1.90 to test the issue, with the 1.88 Ive no problem, but Ive the same issue in a hosted to hetzner server. this is the linux command to launch the server without any config (same result also with config file) (mod are CBA, ACE and T...

soft egret Mar 22, 2019, 1:19 PM

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A quick google gives him the answer that he can get it on A3 Launcher. Very easy to find

wraith comet Mar 22, 2019, 1:22 PM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1689443957&searchtext=
task_force_radio.pbo @soft egret
mbg_killhouses_a3.pbo
cup_terrains_xxx

soft egret Mar 22, 2019, 1:23 PM

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points at chris

lapis juniper Mar 22, 2019, 1:30 PM

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Thats abruzzi’s cars , ive purchased his mod pack a long time ago his cars were often found on ALRP from when cobra was running it

faint nacelle Mar 22, 2019, 1:33 PM

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none of that unfortuntately mean they would be originally made from legit source material

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the quality between models and textures and setting up in game does not quite match

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they could be, but there is room for reasonable doubt

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for example :
https://youtu.be/65CSuvrj0A0?t=59
the interior of this one compared to the Forza equivalent:
https://youtu.be/gYNSDPRolZY?t=84

YouTube

John Abruzzi

Mercedes-Benz "G-Wagon" G65 AMG | Arma 3

▶ Play video

YouTube

ECH Gaming

Forza Horizon 4| 755Hp 2013 MERCEDES G 65 AMG G WAGON [Street Build]

Real car guys will drop a (Like & Subscribe) Remember To Hit The Bell Icon ((🔔)) To Join The Notification Squad💪 Comment Below What Car! You Want To See Next...

▶ Play video

wraith comet Mar 22, 2019, 2:16 PM

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thinkhfjkld

mint edge Mar 22, 2019, 2:56 PM

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question any quality art if they dont have an artstation or something like that

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or a link to where they bought it and that persons folio

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lmao

tulip nexus Mar 22, 2019, 3:02 PM

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I don't have an artstation 😦

soft egret Mar 22, 2019, 3:03 PM

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How can you dare. Even pesky dedmen has one

faint nacelle Mar 22, 2019, 3:12 PM

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its about consistency of quality

hexed marsh Mar 22, 2019, 4:21 PM

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@tulip nexus you must be crap then 😉

soft egret Mar 22, 2019, 5:38 PM

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https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=1575384701
SFP wheelchair @sonic blade
ewk_cigs (this is a life server)

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Half a dozen russians just contacted me out of the blue and all started dropping lists of russian life servers with tons of reuploads at me...

lapis juniper Mar 22, 2019, 5:50 PM

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Lool

midnight crystal Mar 22, 2019, 5:50 PM

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Dang, lucky day i guess

lapis juniper Mar 22, 2019, 5:52 PM

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Lol that last thibk though ... steam gave them a custom shiny dmca banner lmao

soft egret Mar 22, 2019, 6:01 PM

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Okey we are at a full dozen now.

faint nacelle Mar 22, 2019, 6:01 PM

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everyone outs their neighbour hoping that their mod slips through the net?

soft egret Mar 22, 2019, 6:01 PM

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altislife3.ru apparently

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Don't even remember DMCA'ing them 🤔

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1114163956 does anyone remember that itemID per chance? Did anyone here DMCA it?
Apparently someone DMCA'ed it for a TFAR reupload, wasn't me.

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Maybe Valve is testing their article13 filters 😄

faint nacelle Mar 22, 2019, 6:19 PM

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😄

fossil basalt Mar 22, 2019, 6:37 PM

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everyone outs their neighbour hoping that their mod slips through the net? Its funny you mention that....

boreal ocean Mar 22, 2019, 6:43 PM

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hi

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thats my pack

soft egret Mar 22, 2019, 6:43 PM

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What's your pack?

boreal ocean Mar 22, 2019, 6:43 PM

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hollows vehicle pack

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its a collection of vehicles from many different creators

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got permission to make a pack as i knew most of them

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u can find most of them on armaholic, theres about 8 models i bought off turbosquid

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and 4 models i paid a friend to create

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that being said

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LUL

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that is all

fossil basalt Mar 22, 2019, 7:32 PM

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It is currently marked as prohibited on the Forum as some are known to be rips.

minor snow Mar 22, 2019, 9:35 PM

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yup look like Forza to me

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i seen a few cars with the wheel sidewall from Froza

wraith comet Mar 23, 2019, 9:45 AM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1690908386&searchtext=
pra3_xxx
tem_anizay

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1690544704&searchtext=
TFAR @soft egret
HAFM_xxx

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1690360917&searchtext=

Colonial Marine Mod

Vilas' original A2 work can be found here: Colonial Marines Pack.[www.armaholic.com]
HCPookie remake of the original can be found here: Aliens Mod[www.armaholic.com]
Pookie has updated the models and features to Arma3 standards... PhysX, handling, all the characteristics are present. He has also added a few extra goodies along the way.

Permission for reupload ?

fossil basalt Mar 23, 2019, 10:05 AM

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Again, general reuploads are forbidden by Steam whether permission is given or not.

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(notable exceptions are stated in the SSA)

gritty nexus Mar 23, 2019, 10:06 AM

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@wraith comet Temppa has said to me directly he has no qualm with people reuploading his map and is glad they are getting used in whatever way suits people. People should not DMCA them on his behalf. Source: I just asked him since we are in the same arma community.

echo orchid Mar 23, 2019, 10:08 AM

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@gritty nexus no one can DMCA on other people behalf, unless they do legally represent that person. The fact that he has no issue with it, doesn't make it ok considering steam's TOS

gritty nexus Mar 23, 2019, 10:09 AM

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Can you explain how the takedown process goes in steam?

fossil basalt Mar 23, 2019, 10:14 AM

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From which perspective? DMCA?

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https://steamcommunity.com/dmca/create/

gritty nexus Mar 23, 2019, 10:16 AM

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The process of how mods get taken down from steam?

fossil basalt Mar 23, 2019, 10:31 AM

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A DMCA is filed, mod gets taken down.
or
A report is filed regarding prohibited reupload, mod is marked incompatible with game, mod is eventually removed.

(simplistic answer)

gritty nexus Mar 23, 2019, 10:32 AM

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A report is filed regarding prohibited reupload, mod is marked incompatible with game, mod is eventually removed.

How is this done and who can do it?

echo orchid Mar 23, 2019, 10:34 AM

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via steam DMCA page - https://steamcommunity.com/dmca/create/ by (one of) the author(s)

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not really sure what you are not getting though

fossil basalt Mar 23, 2019, 10:35 AM

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A mod may be reported by anyone via the "report button"

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But a DMCA requires you to be the author or designated person.

echo orchid Mar 23, 2019, 10:35 AM

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also, a mod can be flagged / reported by anyone using the report button

soft egret Mar 23, 2019, 10:35 AM

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@wraith comet if they were really all modified,and the license specifically allowed that, then it would be fine. I don't see a license on the armaholic pages though

gritty nexus Mar 23, 2019, 10:36 AM

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@fossil basalt Listed two (2) specific ways of taking down mods. I understood the first, the DMCA way. Not the second.

echo orchid Mar 23, 2019, 10:36 AM

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there are times when someone from BI has a look over all the obvious IP infringing content and removes these all by themselves

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reporting a mod is not a DMCA

soft egret Mar 23, 2019, 10:37 AM

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@gritty nexus https://s.sqf.ovh/firefox_2019-03-23_11-36-48.png
Button. On workshop page.
Put decription in there. BI will read it and may remove the mod from their side

echo orchid Mar 23, 2019, 10:37 AM

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it's not a guarantee way of taking down a mod, from my own experience DMCA is, and Steam is legally responsible to get in contact and further investigate the claim

gritty nexus Mar 23, 2019, 10:39 AM

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Allright. Thanks to everyone who took the time to explain things. I have conveyed what Temppa thinks about his work. People can choose what to do with that information.

echo orchid Mar 23, 2019, 10:41 AM

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^^ https://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/ - again, considering steam TOS, unless you own IP rights for whatever you are uploading, you cannot upload to Steam

Steam Subscriber Agreement

fossil basalt Mar 23, 2019, 10:41 AM

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Just be aware that even if he gives "permission", it will still most likely be removed.

soft egret Mar 23, 2019, 10:42 AM

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Permission just doesn't matter. However I don't know if TOS forces us to report TOS violations

gritty nexus Mar 23, 2019, 10:42 AM

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Yes. I understand that. I am just making people aware like you are. It is up to you as a moral actor to chose what to do with the information.

fossil basalt Mar 23, 2019, 10:43 AM

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Our morals tell us to report it for takedown the minute we see it.

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So, if a user is caught reuploading, they can be assured of being removed from this community.

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(Not just the Discord, but all Bohemia platforms)

gritty nexus Mar 23, 2019, 10:44 AM

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Allright, that is your choice.

fossil basalt Mar 23, 2019, 10:45 AM

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Just dont want anyone crying to us over being permanently banned. (because they chose to be idiots)

gritty nexus Mar 23, 2019, 10:45 AM

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I dont understand what you are implying?

fossil basalt Mar 23, 2019, 10:46 AM

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reupload == ban

echo orchid Mar 23, 2019, 10:46 AM

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what about ripping? isn't that suppose to == ban? asking for a friend 😉

fossil basalt Mar 23, 2019, 10:47 AM

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yes, that particular one is being worked on.

gritty nexus Mar 23, 2019, 10:57 AM

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I must say, this situation looks like a prime candidate for some moral inspection as it at first seems like it stems from above all protection of authors rights that gets twisted into a above all protection of the distributing system and its rights. In the end the moral compass here appears to show that the distribution platforms rights >> Authors absolute rights over his work.

In the context of bohemia as a company it seems correct since they wish to avoid issues with their distributor(steam).

In the context of mod makers protecting the rights of every other mod maker it seems to have gotten misguided and perverted by some communal factor. It truly seems like a fascinating construct.

fossil basalt Mar 23, 2019, 11:00 AM

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Steam as a platform prohibit reuploads

Users who have permission from Authors may host them anywhere they like, with the exception of those specified by the authors and the distribution platform.

If a User chooses to reupload something which violates a platform's ToS, they have proven that they cannot be trusted and thusly do not warrant inclusion into a community who's bedrock principles are trust and consent.

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Steam specifically has Collections for this very purpose.

soft egret Mar 23, 2019, 11:02 AM

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collections and dependencies. The only reason i can see to reupload, is that someone wants only a subset of a mod, that's not available on steam by the author in that form.

fossil basalt Mar 23, 2019, 11:03 AM

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...and at which point, if the author authorises it, the user should/could be added as a contributor, thus granting the necessary permission.

echo orchid Mar 23, 2019, 11:04 AM

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it also depends on the license associated with a mod. If the license specifies directly that the mod is allowed to be uploaded on Steam (although legally speaking that would mean that the mod is open source, so it can also be used commercially), then that is the prerogative of the Author

fossil basalt Mar 23, 2019, 11:04 AM

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Seems like every month we have to say the same things over and over. ...

echo orchid Mar 23, 2019, 11:05 AM

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some people choose try and find grey areas in the mix

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when things are, for all intent and purpose, pretty black and white when it comes to SW

fossil basalt Mar 23, 2019, 11:06 AM

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Yep

gritty nexus Mar 23, 2019, 12:06 PM

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So this is purely a moral inspection of the case as I find it fascinating.... The case relates to specifically to the situations where the author has given explicit right for people to reupload to steam workshop. Nothing else.

-FM-Today at 1:04 PM
Seems like every month we have to say the same things over and over. ...

I think people see the moral issue at heart and are not maybe able to say it in an appropriate way. It also appears that this moral issue is not solved to a satisfactory way in the community.
Earlier I referred to the moral perversion that happens when mod authors and users chose to put the corporate distributers rights above those of mod authors:

-FM-Today at 12:41 PM
Just be aware that even if he gives "permission", it will still most likely be removed.

-FM-Today at 12:43 PM
Our morals tell us to report it for takedown the minute we see it.
So, if a user is caught reuploading, they can be assured of being removed from this community.
(Not just the Discord, but all Bohemia platforms)

Here we have a good example. People cannot upload mods to steam even if they have the explicit say so right from the author. In choosing to report these mods someone is choosing to make the moral choice that the authors rights are less important than the corporations rights who control the distribution channel.

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-FM-Today at 1:00 PM
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If a User chooses to reupload something which violates a platform's ToS, they have proven that they cannot be trusted and thusly do not warrant inclusion into a community who's bedrock principles are trust and consent.

This is another example where the community is made to serve the distributors rights at the threat of being excluded from the community. The trust is extended towards the distributor rather than between the mod makers and the community. So in fact the community's bedrock appears to be trust between the distributor and the community. Trust that the community should not infringe upon the distributers right even if it goes against the mod authors wishes. Now I can see the benefit for the corporations involved in that they get the essentially free labor from the community. What I don't see is the benefit for the community.

The name of the channel is #ip_rights_violations , should it also include Steam TOS violations?
I can also understand the need for BIS and by extension its associate moderators to uphold relations with its distributor. What I find fascinating is how so many mod authors appear to be in on this system. In a way that appears to diminish their rights.

echo orchid Mar 23, 2019, 12:16 PM

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you don't seem to be either able or willing to understand anything from what was written here

gritty nexus Mar 23, 2019, 12:17 PM

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Ok, I will take that criticism to my heart and work on it. If you want to help me then please provide some elaboration.

echo orchid Mar 23, 2019, 12:24 PM

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The case relates to specifically to the situations where the author has given explicit right for people to reupload to steam workshop. Nothing else.
the only ways to give anyone explicit right is to
a. share your IP rights with that person
b. renounce your IP rights for the content you put into A3

Here we have a good example. People cannot upload mods to steam even if they have the explicit say so right from the author.
do read Steam TOS (i am pretty sure you haven't), maybe you understand why it works the way it is

In choosing to report these mods someone is choosing to make the moral choice that the authors rights are less important than the corporations rights who control the distribution channel.
it's not about corporate rights over modders rights, it's actually the other way around. anyone can write - i have permission from the author - really, is that a statement anyone that has a head on a shoulder will actually take for granted?

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I can also understand the need for BIS and by extension its associate moderators to uphold relations with its distributor. What I find fascinating is how so many mod authors appear to be in on this system. In a way that appears to diminish their rights.
BI (not BIS btw, that is a different company) is not really part of the relation between Valve and the modding community. Also, valve is not the only means of 3rd party content distribution. But it is the only one that ask the author of said party content to directly share IP rights with Valve (for limited purposes though) on upload on their platform - again,, the only party that actually do that is the author, and no one else

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in short, if mod maker actually wants to give anyone explicit permission, they can do that, in writing, in their license.
I personally won't believe someone who will say - but i got permission from the author.
I have been there, i know people who told me that they have got permission from RHS for various purposes, the funny thing being, i am the one who gives out these sort permissions (or in fact i don't, not to anyone, no matter of the reasons or purposes).

soft egret Mar 23, 2019, 12:41 PM

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I just had 4 monetized arma servers last week who said they have permission for everything. They also wrote that on their workshop uploads

vast notch Mar 23, 2019, 12:52 PM

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This sort of discussion should really be in #other_ip_topics as this channel is for discussing actual violations

gritty nexus Mar 23, 2019, 12:57 PM

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Ok. Yes, thank you.

dull moon Mar 23, 2019, 9:15 PM

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i hate to be the one, but............
#other_ip_topics

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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😄

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(have to promote this channel since i am one of those who requested it)

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aaaaaaaand i idiot just saw that tall man said it already

midnight crystal Mar 23, 2019, 9:32 PM

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sopfangrier

wraith comet Mar 24, 2019, 12:28 PM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1692536259&searchtext=
USAF Reupload
(32nd Airborne Division (US Army))

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1691814793
list
https://pastebin.com/EtuR0EmW
TFAR @soft egret

soft egret Mar 24, 2019, 12:33 PM

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That list is not enough, need to wait for crawler

wraith comet Mar 24, 2019, 12:34 PM

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Salute

brisk ember Mar 24, 2019, 12:54 PM

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@crisp dome ^ USAF included in the 32nd one

brisk ember Mar 24, 2019, 2:10 PM

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@soft egret this one's finally been indexed: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1690544704&tscn=1553358850 also I don't think the uploader knows how english works

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1690544704

TFAR
HAFM
R3F
SCmod
V12 vehicles (?)
Alessio vehicles (?)
CBA
Charlieco89 vehicles (?)
Hosali vehicles (?)
Luke vehicles (?)
MM buildings

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Can't find Aplion here and who's responsible for R3F and the SCmod?

soft egret Mar 24, 2019, 2:26 PM

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@brisk ember no it's not.
Crawler: Last index update 24.03.2019 00:10
Steam: last update 24. März um 0:44 Uhr

brisk ember Mar 24, 2019, 2:26 PM

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Aight I'll download it then instead

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I think he plays the blame game with some ArmA For Life (french Life server) in the comments

soft egret Mar 24, 2019, 2:28 PM

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you downloading also won't help me. I'll wait till crawler is updated

brisk ember Mar 24, 2019, 2:30 PM

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Whatever floats your boat 😛

snow bloom Mar 24, 2019, 2:55 PM

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@echo orchid https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/951840457001000239/CA5979053F7766E19A80D7DA5104C1837A08538A/ - Retex of those ACUs?

river spear Mar 24, 2019, 3:41 PM

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@soft egret @brisk ember I can change the update time to twice a day if that helps you

soft egret Mar 24, 2019, 3:41 PM

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Would make some things easier. Not sure if really thaat useful though.
A "index once someone tries to peek a item that is not in database" is more useful ^^

brisk ember Mar 24, 2019, 3:49 PM

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^

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though might overload depending on traffic I guess?

echo orchid Mar 24, 2019, 7:01 PM

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@snow bloom seems like it, besides the image, is there a release? We could easily disable hiddenSelections on that ACU in the end

snow bloom Mar 24, 2019, 7:03 PM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1525962828

echo orchid Mar 24, 2019, 7:12 PM

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@snow bloom cheers

snow bloom Mar 24, 2019, 7:12 PM

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No worries

brisk ember Mar 25, 2019, 10:14 AM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1690233532

SMA
Enhanced Movement
GIGN
FEMAL3
Zabb content (?)

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https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=1654900340

Enhanced movement
NIArms
ITC components
Rednn Tanks
3CB content ( @steady adder was this sanctioned? They claim they have permission)

hexed marsh Mar 25, 2019, 11:06 AM

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Apollo isn't around so much these days. So best to @ myself, @grave elm or @sweet minnow

sweet minnow Mar 25, 2019, 11:10 AM

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They do not have permission from 3CB

brisk ember Mar 25, 2019, 2:49 PM

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That's the weird thing though, they have 3CB in their required items but also some 3CB PBOs in the modpack itself

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example: \addons\uk3cb_baf_equipment_acre.pbo \addons\uk3cb_baf_equipment_acre.pbo.UOMODS_A3_20190319.bisign \addons\uk3cb_baf_units_ace.pbo \addons\uk3cb_baf_units_rhs.pbo \addons\uk3cb_baf_vehicles_hercules.pbo I suppose it's all those compat & extra addons @sweet minnow

sweet minnow Mar 25, 2019, 2:51 PM

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Thanks

wraith comet Mar 25, 2019, 2:59 PM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1693603028

ORIGINAL LINK: http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=28283
AUTHOR: Lucian
AUTHOR's CLAN: http://23-luftlandekompanie.de/
REQUIRES: BWMod```

carmine folio Mar 25, 2019, 9:43 PM

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Just want to mention that UO is allowed to include anything ITC and anything made by me in general

brisk ember Mar 25, 2019, 9:45 PM

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alright, thanks for the headsup

fossil basalt Mar 25, 2019, 9:50 PM

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@carmine folio You would benefit everyone to put that in a licence.

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eg: "You may upload to Steam Workshop or any other service that reassigns rights over my, <insert your name here> Intellectual Property to 3rd Parties.```  <- this is a very generic example, but is better than nothing.

loud jackal Mar 25, 2019, 10:49 PM

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Correcting the issues addon pack in question. Given the evolving interpretation and protection from abuse or misreporting of Steam Workshop's license/content/permissions I will be breaking apart all content as able. Any historical agreements done verbally or via non formal, ala steam message/discord/skype/etc will be worked to removed at the earliest feasible time.
Please feel free to directly mention me or contact me should this come up or there are issues found at present or in the future.

fossil basalt Mar 25, 2019, 11:53 PM

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Is it me or is that intentionally confusing? It HAS been a long day here.

trail mountain Mar 26, 2019, 12:34 AM

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No, that's deliberately mindfucking.

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@fossil basalt you good!

river spear Mar 26, 2019, 1:02 AM

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I'm trying to understand it myself but I can't wrap my head around it

dull peak Mar 26, 2019, 1:22 AM

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If I may ask, what was confusing about that statement?

cursive flame Mar 26, 2019, 5:21 AM

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I don’t know, makes perfect sense to me, I am confused what people don’t understand.

soft egret Mar 26, 2019, 8:21 AM

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will be worked to removed at the earliest feasible time That sentence doesn't make sense. Missing words.
And why would you remove permissions that were given to you 🤔
Yep. Confusing.

normal isle Mar 26, 2019, 8:50 AM

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Makes sense to me, Impulse had a historical agreement with 3CB (I think Apollo) regarding the mods, new guys from 3CB says they have no permission, so old agreements/permissions done through verbal / non-formal ways (in Steam mesages/Discord/Skype/etc ) needs to be checked/validated/removed

(Personal Viewpoint/Understanding, could be completely wrong interpretation from my part/pov)

soft egret Mar 26, 2019, 8:52 AM

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checked/validated/ That's what was missing then I guess.
Just as you say this.. I should document my own permissions better...

pastel hawk Mar 26, 2019, 9:48 AM

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Impulse had copies of the licenses and agreements with the mods at the time of them being added to our modpack, as most of them are considered null now under these rulings and persecutions, he's choosen to just get rid of them.

The rest is him basically saying he will get it done when he can.

hexed marsh Mar 26, 2019, 11:57 AM

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@normal isle Although I'm not aware of the issue you're talking of, its worth mentioning as a point of clarification, There have been no real "New Guys" in the 3CB Mod team for a couple of years now.

Currently, Apollo isn't around, so if anybody has any issues regarding permissions they may have been given or not etc, they should contact @sweet minnow directly.

loud jackal Mar 26, 2019, 8:06 PM

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I rewrote most of my build automation up until 3am last night then chose to sleep for a few hours. My servers were kept offline during this time although no change had been pushed to steam workshop. And thus now that I am not busy with work I am resuming on the process of cleaning things up...

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I spent a good hour or two last night talking with Lifetap as well, with genneral agreements and understanding over the issues. It was clearly explained that it would be resolved in a prompt manner...

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I am sorry I do not live in the same active timezone as others that have read this since it was posted earlier I guess?

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If clarification is needed, again, feel free to directly mention me so that I can get the notification to best reply to your query when you post it, short of that I am not guaranteed to respond in a timely manner w/o notifications.

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@soft egret While permissions form many or most may have been granted, a great majority of the discussion here has been taken on by those not directly involved in those conversations that are looking for potential violations first. While even outright said by authors in this channel in cases where they chose to respond that I had permission to use and redistribute, it does nothing to prevent people from seeing these potential faults or allegations of misconduct. Instead of people understanding that the permissions may be granted, authors are now being told they need to change their license agreements in new and frankly absurd methods to still not fall in line with the restrictions and changes that are perceived to be required by the steam agreements. In short, I would rather attempt to make the best to become compliant regardless of historical agreements so that discussions such as this do not upset individuals nor the community at large as title and community continue to evolve. All in all at the end of the day this is a game many of us have put a great number of hours into and quite a bit of passion and effort behind it. Should it ever become non enjoyable many of us would opt to part ways with the title. I am not trying to make any one group nor myself lose that passion for the title. And the fix for this current perceived issue is to become compliant with the general views of the vocal ones in this channel and others, before it gets elevated into a legal issue. I believe no one honestly wants to go down that path. Thus, trying to stay ahead of things before it goes too far in any direction.

wraith comet Mar 28, 2019, 11:48 AM

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A reupload of Savage_Donkey's Bushlurker's Carraigdubh Terrain.
https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=1679759270
Who takes care of Bushlurker's terrain ?

brisk ember Mar 28, 2019, 12:03 PM

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I don't think anyone does

faint nacelle Mar 28, 2019, 12:05 PM

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Dwarden may have but not sure

lapis juniper Mar 29, 2019, 3:05 AM

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are ebo's allowed to be used ? no right?

tropic steeple Mar 29, 2019, 3:35 AM

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correct, ebos are for BI only

lapis juniper Mar 29, 2019, 3:43 AM

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welp in that case then ... https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1676912041&searchtext=structure

soft egret Mar 29, 2019, 6:49 AM

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🤔 Altis life france is asking to use that mod on their monetized server...
Problem 1: monetization approved servers are not allowed to use ebo's
Problem 2: Altis Life France is not approved for monetization anymore after getting their approval revoked for the 4th time for violating the rules.

🤔 mhhhh.....

dull moon Mar 29, 2019, 11:50 AM

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That's a common punisher design

midnight crystal Mar 29, 2019, 11:50 AM

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yeah realised that afterwards

dull moon Mar 29, 2019, 11:50 AM

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Oh, you deleted your post an i again look like an idiot

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😂

midnight crystal Mar 29, 2019, 11:51 AM

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nha its fine, just had a picture in my head for some reason lol

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But I'm sure Firewill reuploads aren't allowed tho https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1690264086&searchtext=

soft egret Mar 29, 2019, 11:57 AM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1584626597 Seems like we've already seen that guy

river spear Mar 29, 2019, 12:40 PM

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Sorry, I can't make the crawler index specific items on request that easily

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I've changed it to a 2-times a day cycle so hopefully that will help for now

brisk ember Mar 29, 2019, 12:58 PM

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FireWill doesn't seem to give two shits about reuploads

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Reported and emailed him some violations previously, nothing done.

chilly silo Mar 29, 2019, 3:34 PM

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Presumably because he doesnt make his own models. He apparently has "benefactors" that buy or donate the models. He just integrates them into ArmA. 😉

brisk ember Mar 29, 2019, 3:51 PM

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oh

lapis juniper Mar 29, 2019, 5:59 PM

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Anyone heard anything about a community called anzus gaming ? They wanna bribg me on to do their map but .... ive heard things about them and wanna see if yall know anything?

soft egret Mar 29, 2019, 6:00 PM

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Yep.. Quite a well known name for repeated stealing and monetization violations

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They are the new psisyn 😄

lapis juniper Mar 29, 2019, 6:00 PM

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Well he got demonetized the other day

soft egret Mar 29, 2019, 6:01 PM

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Lost monetization approval half a dozen times. And continued monetizing without approval for quite a while

lapis juniper Mar 29, 2019, 6:01 PM

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Dedmen mind if i shoot u a quick pm ?

soft egret Mar 29, 2019, 6:03 PM

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shoot me till I don't stand up anymore

lapis juniper Mar 29, 2019, 6:03 PM

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😂

soft egret Mar 29, 2019, 6:05 PM

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You can also just use discord search and search for "anzus"

brisk ember Mar 29, 2019, 10:46 PM

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@crisp dome https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1662627472&searchtext=

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USAF upload with random characters I guess to hide it

heady stump Mar 30, 2019, 5:20 AM

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Taviana Reupload: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1686763031&searchtext=

carmine folio Mar 30, 2019, 4:53 PM

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@brisk ember I'm guessing its some set of words in Anglicized Chinese rather than random characters since the person's name is JieYu, and the first letters are jieuyu, it looks coherent, and the person is from China. But yea.

crisp dome Mar 31, 2019, 12:29 AM

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Looking into it now thanks brother

wraith comet Mar 31, 2019, 8:57 AM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1698540858&searchtext=
\Addons\task_force_radio.pbo

soft egret Mar 31, 2019, 9:00 AM

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And it be gone

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Same guy https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1663465386
CUP_Creatures_People_Military_NAPA.pbo is that cup or third party?

CUP_Creatures_People_Core.pbo I assume cup.. @dull moon

dull moon Mar 31, 2019, 9:03 AM

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It is...

chilly silo Mar 31, 2019, 1:04 PM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1652835215 @dull moon I've DMCA's it already but hes removed my stuff now. But loads of CUP in there.

soft egret Mar 31, 2019, 1:08 PM

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I've filed a DMCA too ^^
Let's make it 3

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but hes removed my stuff now your bikey is still in there ^^

chilly silo Mar 31, 2019, 2:06 PM

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an old one

amber eagle Apr 2, 2019, 2:16 AM

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So using ebos is a no-no?

dull moon Apr 2, 2019, 2:34 AM

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A big no-no

amber eagle Apr 2, 2019, 2:37 AM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1696760278&searchtext=

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^Has a ebo

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This guy rips stuff. Filed a DMCA on him long time ago for ripping half of my USM mod. Quite a few pics on his profile has my boonie

hallow lark Apr 2, 2019, 4:57 AM

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email the address in the channel description.

soft egret Apr 2, 2019, 6:43 AM

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"2035: Russian Armed Forces" reupload in there ^ @carmine folio

wraith comet Apr 2, 2019, 9:44 AM

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FM`s EBO answer
https://discordapp.com/channels/105462288051380224/547515791579545600/553727425716944916

stoic beacon Apr 2, 2019, 7:41 PM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1676669909
Contains ebo's

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Also SMA, hlc, plp and other stuff

echo orchid Apr 2, 2019, 7:53 PM

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and RHS

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well, DMCA in progress

fossil basalt Apr 2, 2019, 8:16 PM

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So, after a few conversations, I have been keeping an eye on this channel and have noticed something that had been mentioned and I'd like to point it out.

This is not the list as many non consensual re-uploads as you can channel.

The specific purpose of this channel is to report violations of the ARMA 3 EULA as indicated in the channel description. If you see an A3 EULA violation (like the EBOs above) report it via the email address provided infringements@bistudio.com

If it is a monetisation issue, use the "contact us" button near the bottom of the page here: https://www.bohemia.net/monetization/faq#

For user IP infringement that does not involve monetisation or EULA violations, please contact the legitimate mod author directly.

The steam workshop is full of immature users who wouldn't know what IP was even if it was a shovel that hit them in the face. Whilst it pains me to say it, we alone cannot prevent others from violating the IP rights of our community members. Both BI and Valve need to do their part to step up and assist, but until that happens, one step that we can take , is to be as explicit as we can regarding the licenses we apply to our work. If you do not want your work uploaded to the Steam Workshop, EXPLICITLY say so. Make it easier for Steam to say "Yup, he really didn't want it here". Whilst it isn't the best solution, it is better than allowing Steam to make that judgement call in the absence of any explicit license. Consent, make it explicit or someone will think its implied.

With that being said, lets focus our attention to those things that CAN be actioned upon. The majority of mod authors whose work is being violated are on this Discord. Much like we do on the Forum, it would be appreciated if you could DM them directly rather than posting it in the channel (thread).

Thanks

Bohemia Interactive

FAQ | Server Monetization | Bohemia Interactive

Bohemia Interactive monetization rules.

echo orchid Apr 2, 2019, 8:19 PM

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@fossil basalt hmmm, there are tons of people who do not know the authors for these mods and related nicknames in this discord btw

fossil basalt Apr 2, 2019, 8:20 PM

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They can always ask.

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Unfortunately, this channel has been likened to pitchfork carrying farmers and I can start to see it now. Its become a dumping ground of reports.

echo orchid Apr 2, 2019, 8:29 PM

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indeed

dull moon Apr 2, 2019, 8:35 PM

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suggestion:
how about a channel called #ip_violation_report, no write permission, just contact infos to creators that wish to be listed

carmine folio Apr 2, 2019, 8:35 PM

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Happy to see this channels usage clarified, hopefully will slow down the unnecessary drama within the community

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@dull moon Content creators can be directly contacted be it Steam/Forums/Discord as most (if not all) can be easily found via these methods

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Especially if they are hosting on Steam

dull moon Apr 2, 2019, 8:38 PM

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i can only speak for CUP, and for us steam is just another distribution platform. we do not check the comments, PMs nor friend requests very often.
our (mine) main source for reports was always this channel

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on a second note, i do not permit PMs on other discors than CUP. so PM reports are no deal for me either

carmine folio Apr 2, 2019, 8:40 PM

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Would suggest posting a method of contacting on your CUP workshop content

grand oyster Apr 2, 2019, 8:42 PM

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Assuming it isn't then flooded or overlooked due to misuse

dull moon Apr 2, 2019, 8:42 PM

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this is already the case. but first halt for reports always was this discord since this is the center of the community by now. i would like to see it stay this way and not spread the people all the way just for "a simple report". this discord is the main source for information. so rather telling the people over and over again where creators can be reached, a no-write-permission channel with contact infos would be the best and fastest option imo

normal isle Apr 2, 2019, 8:43 PM

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But.. You could do the contact infos at the platforms where your (CUP) mods is distributed ?

grand oyster Apr 2, 2019, 8:44 PM

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The channel would be filled with an assortment of Author contact details, not solely cup 🤔

dull moon Apr 2, 2019, 8:44 PM

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@normal isle
already the case, as i said. but people dent to first ask here, rather than read the descriptions...

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rather than read the descriptions...
also the reason for most violations in the first place btw

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@grand oyster
everybody who wishes to be listed, yes

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can we move this to #other_ip_topics please?

normal isle Apr 2, 2019, 8:46 PM

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Yeah.. If a No-Write-Permission is made, for all author contact details, then the player needs to scroll wheel through perhaps 2 digit number authors (hell maybe even 3 digits) to find the specific mod maker they wish to contact, to then use that

faint nacelle Apr 2, 2019, 9:46 PM

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If the mod name is listed also, then one just needs to use the search.

buoyant ridge Apr 3, 2019, 11:14 AM

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Is it true you cant upload ebo to the steam workshop

soft egret Apr 3, 2019, 11:16 AM

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You can. But it's not allowed cuz the only way to get them are tools that violate the Arma EULA

carmine folio Apr 3, 2019, 11:59 AM

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I'd recommend referring to Dwarden's post in this chat about it:
https://discordapp.com/channels/105462288051380224/105792634995388416/468391957991784448

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Dwarden's message should probably be pinned

fossil basalt Apr 3, 2019, 12:06 PM

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Like everything else, those that intend to violate it, either wont read it or abide by it. Then they'll cry when they get caught.

undone pier Apr 4, 2019, 8:47 AM

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Some more pinned message, or otherwise some FAQ page would surely be useful

stoic beacon Apr 4, 2019, 10:26 AM

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@soft egret https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1676669909 contains tfar

soft egret Apr 4, 2019, 10:26 AM

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I contain TFAR 😄

stoic beacon Apr 4, 2019, 10:26 AM

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xD

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edited 😄

soft egret Apr 4, 2019, 10:26 AM

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I remember that user 🤔

stoic beacon Apr 4, 2019, 10:27 AM

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Yup, I've been dealing with them for half a year or so, they uploaded my mods and others multiple times by now

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also @proud flicker MBG buildings

high valley Apr 5, 2019, 5:02 PM

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I don know if this is the right channel to put this in so if it isnt ill move it. A member of my milsim unit created some retextures for VSM, and we were wondering if it would be a violation to pack it into our house mod that is on steam. To be clear we would pack the retextures ONLY with a VSM dependency. Thanks for the help guys

soft egret Apr 5, 2019, 5:07 PM

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You can put your own textures wherever you want

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As long as you don't intend to reupload someone elses files. Like VSM pbo's

high valley Apr 5, 2019, 5:08 PM

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awesome thank you

fossil basalt Apr 5, 2019, 5:09 PM

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Then you also have to consider, was the model you made retextures for a ripped model?

soft egret Apr 5, 2019, 5:09 PM

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Doesn't make the textures illegal tho.

fossil basalt Apr 5, 2019, 5:09 PM

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If the original model prohibited retextures?

soft egret Apr 5, 2019, 5:09 PM

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Okey.. then yeah ^^

high valley Apr 5, 2019, 5:09 PM

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Im talking about the original VSM, now MLO I think

fossil basalt Apr 5, 2019, 5:10 PM

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The original VSM is banned

high valley Apr 5, 2019, 5:10 PM

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Its still on steam?

soft egret Apr 5, 2019, 5:10 PM

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The "original"? You mean the one that was full of ripped models?

high valley Apr 5, 2019, 5:10 PM

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What ever one is still on steam

fossil basalt Apr 5, 2019, 5:10 PM

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Jarrads "non-stolen*" content isnt the original VSM if thats what you're referring to *i've not checked

high valley Apr 5, 2019, 5:11 PM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=823636749&searchtext=MLO

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My bad, its Jarrads version

soft egret Apr 5, 2019, 5:11 PM

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That's the new one

high valley Apr 5, 2019, 5:12 PM

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Ah okay, my bad

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thanks for the help guys

fossil basalt Apr 5, 2019, 5:12 PM

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I don know if this is the right channel to put this in so if it isnt ill move it. A member of my milsim unit created some retextures for VSM, and we were wondering if it would be a violation to pack it into our house mod that is on steam. To be clear we would pack the retextures ONLY with a VSM dependency. Thanks for the help guys

You should have a talk with Jarrad

high valley Apr 5, 2019, 5:14 PM

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Okay ill shoot him a message

fallen jackal Apr 6, 2019, 10:51 AM

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wait, can unmonetized servers use ebo's now?

vast notch Apr 6, 2019, 10:56 AM

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@George325436#1372 No one is allowed to use ebos

fallen jackal Apr 6, 2019, 10:58 AM

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kk

midnight crystal Apr 7, 2019, 8:15 PM

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so this guy uploaded 30 something mods that all claim that he holds no rights over them, IDK what the content of these are tho https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=1705540675

dull moon Apr 7, 2019, 8:19 PM

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@midnight crystal
since this channel degenerated more into a witch hunt platform, we agreed to no longer discuss 3rd party violations on here anymore, only directly BI related cases. for now BI unrelated cases should go to #other_ip_topics , better directly via PM to affected parties

midnight crystal Apr 7, 2019, 8:19 PM

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ha ok, wasn't aware of that change sorry

dull moon Apr 7, 2019, 8:20 PM

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NP came up just a few days ago

hidden scaffold Apr 13, 2019, 8:24 AM

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Reupload of HAFM, Multi-play, uh60 pack, MLO ,and alot more

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1690264086&searchtext=

fossil basalt Apr 13, 2019, 10:25 AM

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@hidden scaffold, have you notified HAFM? The majority of mod authors whose work is being violated are on this Discord. Much like we do on the Forum, it would be appreciated if you could DM them directly rather than posting it in the channel (thread).

brisk ember Apr 13, 2019, 10:27 AM

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@jarrad96#7463 ^

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Oh he not here anymore?

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Anyway, forward the MLO violation

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Author of the Titus is notified too

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EricJ here?

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GSViper and EricJ notified

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I think I've had most of them

hidden scaffold Apr 13, 2019, 11:19 AM

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I didnt see your message..... No i havent modified the creators of the mods as i dont really know how to reach them.

brisk ember Apr 13, 2019, 11:32 AM

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modified?

dull moon Apr 13, 2019, 11:34 AM

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*notified

carmine folio Apr 14, 2019, 12:47 AM

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republic-life stole my mod, after being told excplicitly they were not allowed to use them (after showcasing them on a "teaser"), the owner said he "would respect that" and spent the next forseeable time attempting to win me over. Big surprise, they used them anyway.

brisk ember Apr 14, 2019, 1:46 AM

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DMCA them to Kingdom Come

dreamy ocean Apr 14, 2019, 3:03 AM

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@carmine folio What mod?

carmine folio Apr 14, 2019, 3:12 AM

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@dreamy ocean eric_objects

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Gotta love how I was told by one of the project leads to go "talk to bohemia interactive"

dull moon Apr 14, 2019, 3:14 AM

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dafuq? 😄

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btw, #other_ip_topics

carmine folio Apr 14, 2019, 3:15 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/mL9nz30.png

dreamy ocean Apr 14, 2019, 3:21 AM

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gnarly

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Oh wait you're eric

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everyone tells me you're a great developer

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like zetec and what not

dusk dew Apr 14, 2019, 4:06 AM

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??

carmine folio Apr 14, 2019, 4:09 AM

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I've legitimately got no idea what's going on here, I'd like to get my mod taken down off republic. I'm aware Nicole is a founder, which makes this worse imo.

fossil basalt Apr 14, 2019, 8:11 AM

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File a DMCA takedown if you're the legitimate content creator (and your stuff wasn't originally sourced elsewhere. )

desert sparrow Apr 15, 2019, 1:20 PM

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Reuploaded CUP - Weapons
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1653451038

fossil basalt Apr 15, 2019, 1:25 PM

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E-Mail: contact@cup-arma3.org

desert sparrow Apr 15, 2019, 1:26 PM

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Ohhh. Thank you.

faint nacelle Apr 15, 2019, 1:27 PM

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or drop it on CUP discord

carmine folio Apr 17, 2019, 7:24 AM

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@fossil basalt the contact@cup-arma3.org is that the address for a dmca takedown? I've never done that before.

soft egret Apr 17, 2019, 7:34 AM

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It's just to contact CUP Team. You can also just PM chris or write in #other_ip_topics

tight cove Apr 18, 2019, 11:33 AM

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Is the owner or original uploader of the F-18 Superhornet on this discord? Their link to the steam livery pack doesn't function, and we'd really want it reuploaded but I don't want to be hit for an IP rights violation without permission

brisk ember Apr 18, 2019, 11:50 AM

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TeTeT? Pretty sure a beta version is being worked on? 🤔

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Why not add him as steam friend and ask

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Why do you need it uploaded? https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=743099837

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@tight cove

echo orchid Apr 18, 2019, 11:51 AM

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add him as steam friend and ask
random friend requests on steam = instant ignore

brisk ember Apr 18, 2019, 11:51 AM

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Well that's fair enough, but the mod's already on the steam workshop. Why's an upload needed?

tight cove Apr 18, 2019, 11:52 AM

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So they have a stable branch and a Beta branch

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We use the Beta because of frequency of updates

echo orchid Apr 18, 2019, 11:52 AM

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it isn't, and it isn't allowed to begin with considering steam TOS

tight cove Apr 18, 2019, 11:52 AM

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But because of steams mod policy they don't allow multiple directories or something with mods

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And the link to the textures for the F-18 in the service menu is broken or doesn't exist

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So you can't use all the liveries

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Was just wondering if there was a way to get in touch and see if he could reupload it

brisk ember Apr 18, 2019, 11:53 AM

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the beta release?

tight cove Apr 18, 2019, 11:53 AM

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No

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The texture pack

brisk ember Apr 18, 2019, 11:54 AM

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Ask in the discussions?

tight cove Apr 18, 2019, 11:54 AM

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The beta release is fine
But the separate texture pack is MIA on steam

brisk ember Apr 18, 2019, 11:54 AM

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You've got three of 'em: https://i.imgur.com/ArZxPf9.png

tight cove Apr 18, 2019, 11:54 AM

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Ta, didn't see them before - thanks!

brisk ember Apr 18, 2019, 11:56 AM

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If something's not working, always get in contact with the developer to fix it. Going around them and reuploading would be quite disrespectful to do. Not meant as a shame, but just a headsup if you encounter something like this 😃

tight cove Apr 18, 2019, 11:56 AM

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Hence why I was asking here to see if there's a method of contacting him here to resolve it ;)

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Cheers

brisk ember Apr 18, 2019, 11:57 AM

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NP, hope you get a hold of them!

fossil basalt Apr 18, 2019, 11:57 AM

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Going around them and reuploading would be quite disrespectful to do and will most likely end in a ban.

tight cove Apr 18, 2019, 11:57 AM

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Thank you very much for the already made aware information

brisk ember Apr 18, 2019, 11:57 AM

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xD

tight cove Apr 18, 2019, 11:57 AM

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Was asking for a method of contact

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Cheers nontheless

brisk ember Apr 18, 2019, 11:57 AM

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FM's just trying get all the information out there 😉

tight cove Apr 18, 2019, 11:58 AM

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Gotcha

brisk ember Apr 18, 2019, 11:58 AM

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Could've sworn Yax and/or TeTeTe were on this Discord 🤔

tight cove Apr 18, 2019, 11:58 AM

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Same

fossil basalt Apr 18, 2019, 11:59 AM

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TeTet is

brisk ember Apr 18, 2019, 11:59 AM

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I found TeTeTe

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on the CUP Discord

fossil basalt Apr 18, 2019, 11:59 AM

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@lofty steeple

brisk ember Apr 18, 2019, 11:59 AM

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What?! Discord y u no show that for me

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Should be able to send a PM now though 😃

tight cove Apr 18, 2019, 12:00 PM

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Jeez, thanks guys
Helpful as always o7

brisk ember Apr 18, 2019, 12:00 PM

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Let's hope now he allows people to send messages without going through adding them as friends 😛

tight cove Apr 18, 2019, 12:02 PM

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Just messaged him, thanks alot guys

carmine folio Apr 19, 2019, 4:21 PM

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I nowadays oversee the super hornet and I am in fact on this discord. 😄

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I would recommend commenting on the steam workshop page of the plane, one of the workshop discussions discussions, or the bi forums thread, and if you'd like to get in contact more directly, the workshop description also links to our discord server

carmine folio Apr 20, 2019, 4:19 AM

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I'd like to report a DCMA complaint against the following mods:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1376224816
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=878110677
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=880337031
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=896458596

Everyone of those packs is copying content from other mod creators, including mine, and redistributing it on Steam. All 4 have been created by a steam user by the name of LIVEANDLETDIE.

fossil basalt Apr 20, 2019, 6:51 AM

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@kindred glen Is this you?

fossil basalt Apr 20, 2019, 7:16 AM

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or should I say SpanishSurfer

brisk ember Apr 20, 2019, 8:41 AM

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Why don't you just issue a DMCA on the steam workshop? @carmine folio

echo orchid Apr 20, 2019, 12:15 PM

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@carmine folio can you be more precise

mint edge Apr 20, 2019, 2:01 PM

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am i a joke to you

echo orchid Apr 20, 2019, 2:17 PM

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?

brisk ember Apr 20, 2019, 3:06 PM

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they been reuploading your mods too? @mint edge

mint edge Apr 20, 2019, 3:06 PM

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na but i bet theres a bunch of reuplaods for mine too xD

brisk ember Apr 20, 2019, 3:06 PM

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DMCA 'em all 😛

kindred glen Apr 20, 2019, 5:12 PM

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my guess is LightYagami is actually SpanishSurfer, he was recently banned form our community for hacking into team members personal accounts

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Our mission/mods are community driven with contriubutions from various team members who should have had permission to add anything included in any one of those modpacks

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I will be reviewing the mods, but at first glance, i know for a fact 3/4 of those DO not even contain any assets, only config edits....so this is likely just fake news

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@carmine folio would you please DM the exact files in question and i will look into it and get anything resolved ASAP

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@mint edge hows Chernarus 2035 comin?

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been waiting eagerly for that to be finished so we can add that into rotation on our server

echo orchid Apr 20, 2019, 5:25 PM

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hope that server is monetized, running life mod of sorts 😄

brisk ember Apr 20, 2019, 5:34 PM

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Is this really a failed bamboozle?

echo orchid Apr 20, 2019, 5:41 PM

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😄

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@fossil basalt sometimes i loves you

proper folio Apr 20, 2019, 5:56 PM

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mmm, the story of spanishsurfer trying to bruteforce the root account of our gitlab server, and logging on and posting personal information for omon are actually true

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and considering live just messaged to for being banned here....

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broke into omons steam account

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then posted into our main discord showing it off

soft egret Apr 20, 2019, 5:57 PM

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People need to learn to not choose stupid passwords and 2FA.
It's not that hard

faint nacelle Apr 20, 2019, 5:58 PM

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souldnt such steam account violation be reported to Valve

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they could shut down all his accounts

proper folio Apr 20, 2019, 5:59 PM

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omon changed his password and we cut him off from all out assets

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and thats all we decided to do

echo orchid Apr 20, 2019, 6:00 PM

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i would have went for full steam ban

proper folio Apr 20, 2019, 6:01 PM

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i was hoping he'd just split off and do his own thing, instead of going full vindictive

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ill leave it to omon to decide how he wants to follow up

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im asking live what'd be up with that

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since that seems weird

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i know enough about both of them to know they are definately 2 entirely different people lol

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going back many years.....discord logs?

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from what?

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uhhhh

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thats a weird way to frame it

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I'm hoping you are joking? because thats pretty silly statement. years to do what?

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the only things that have happened are rather childish attempts to disrupt our server and development enviroment

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none of which have had any sort of lasting impact

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even if he had succeeded, still wouldn't have had much of an effect

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years to be framed for uploading what is effectively a potentially trivial copyright violation, if there is actually a copyright violation.......i mean are you serious

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is there actually something in those modpacks that is actually a violation?

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and i just got confirmation that that was pretty much lives only post to this particular discord

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but, you are saying this particular liveandletdie on discord his spanishsurfer....which isn't true, and how are you tieing the IP of this discord account to spanish?

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im seriously confused

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the liveandletdie above, is most definitely 100% not spanishsurfer

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SpanishSurfer#1006

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that is spanish

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i dont think he is even in this server under his main discord

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but that is lives main discord

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since i can see it very clearly in our private discord

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so you have IP's from discord of players?

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spanish and live are/were both part of OFPS Becti development group

tulip nexus Apr 20, 2019, 6:33 PM

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Didn't this happen last time you banned Spanishsurfer? A some other users popped up to come and inform that it wasn't X account, it was only Y?

proper folio Apr 20, 2019, 6:34 PM

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but on what platform are they tied together? I mean its possible someone could login from one of our servers

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both of them

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quite easily

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i've done stuff from the servers before

soft egret Apr 20, 2019, 6:34 PM

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"And given that SpanishSurfer just contacted Dwarden yesterday asking to be unbanned......" seems likely that he creates a new account to come here and reak havok a day later

proper folio Apr 20, 2019, 6:35 PM

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we've had a canadian server, and we have omons server that is in WA. there is a google server that is on and off, its changed quite a bhit

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over the past few years

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all dedicated servers

soft egret Apr 20, 2019, 6:35 PM

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So to me all points towards LightYagami being the problem here

proper folio Apr 20, 2019, 6:35 PM

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half of the time that we own

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are you ok with live messaging you directly and working his account being unlocked?

brisk ember Apr 20, 2019, 6:52 PM

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Don't hate me, but I did the check on those mods and I didn't find any violations on mods that I'm aware of

soft egret Apr 20, 2019, 6:55 PM

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Yeah I checked too. Nothing in there

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In fact these items were brought up in here multiple times in the past. Because people saw title and read description and thought reupload

dusky rover Apr 20, 2019, 6:56 PM

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bonjoir I noticed that the SMA mods have a viewfinder from AMF, they quickly retouched without changing the shape, they stole the hk416 and made retouches with

soft egret Apr 20, 2019, 6:56 PM

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Which puts LightYagami's "Everyone of those packs is copying content from other mod creators, including mine, and redistributing it on Steam." into a different light

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@dusky rover SMA hasn't been active for years. Also they bought many of their models. Maybe they just bought that viewfinder model from the same source?

brisk ember Apr 20, 2019, 6:57 PM

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SMA bought the modules

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also, what's AMF?

dusky rover Apr 20, 2019, 6:58 PM

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I do not know but I find it wrong not to put the name SMA

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French mod

brisk ember Apr 20, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Link?

dusky rover Apr 20, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Yes

soft egret Apr 20, 2019, 6:58 PM

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If they bought it they might not need to put down any name of the author

dusky rover Apr 20, 2019, 6:59 PM

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https://armamodfrance.fr

soft egret Apr 20, 2019, 6:59 PM

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SMA is WAY older than armamodfrance

brisk ember Apr 20, 2019, 6:59 PM

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I was gonna say...

soft egret Apr 20, 2019, 6:59 PM

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So if someone stole something, then it's AMF

dusky rover Apr 20, 2019, 6:59 PM

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I do not think they paid for it

brisk ember Apr 20, 2019, 6:59 PM

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Or if you want, we'll just ring up the SMA devs for you? @dusky rover

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Then you can explain to them what the problem is

dusky rover Apr 20, 2019, 7:00 PM

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Yes yes

brisk ember Apr 20, 2019, 7:00 PM

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Hold on what

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AMF's earliest release is 2018

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2 years later than SMA's latest release

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how does that work?

dusky rover Apr 20, 2019, 7:01 PM

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a viewfinder and HK weapons

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Yes

brisk ember Apr 20, 2019, 7:02 PM

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But how did they steal it, use it from their earliest release, stopped development in 2016, then AMF just releases it in 2018?

dusky rover Apr 20, 2019, 7:03 PM

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amf publishes it thereafter

tulip nexus Apr 20, 2019, 7:03 PM

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Terminator themetune

dusky rover Apr 20, 2019, 7:04 PM

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look at the difference you'll see for yourself I'll do some screen

echo orchid Apr 20, 2019, 7:04 PM

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i wonder How hard can it be to do your own things

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as in actually make shit instead of steal shit

brisk ember Apr 20, 2019, 7:04 PM

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Yeah that's fair but 2 years?

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not gonna lie, it sounds more like the theft is vice versa

soft egret Apr 20, 2019, 7:05 PM

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Feels weird that like all of the new "big" arma projects get taken down or atleast accused of content theft

brisk ember Apr 20, 2019, 7:05 PM

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like?

soft egret Apr 20, 2019, 7:05 PM

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USP/TFL/VSM now AMF.

brisk ember Apr 20, 2019, 7:05 PM

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VSM had some shady stuff in there

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that wasn't just accusation

soft egret Apr 20, 2019, 7:06 PM

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get taken down or

brisk ember Apr 20, 2019, 7:06 PM

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ah that's fair

echo orchid Apr 20, 2019, 7:06 PM

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lol, can we laugh together about TFL?

brisk ember Apr 20, 2019, 7:06 PM

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TFL?

soft egret Apr 20, 2019, 7:06 PM

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would be too offtopic

dusky rover Apr 20, 2019, 7:06 PM

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so am I right?

echo orchid Apr 20, 2019, 7:07 PM

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indeed, but hardly unpleasant

dusky rover Apr 20, 2019, 7:07 PM

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Ok

tulip nexus Apr 20, 2019, 7:07 PM

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Transport For London?

brisk ember Apr 20, 2019, 7:07 PM

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Task Force Ladio?

soft egret Apr 20, 2019, 7:08 PM

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But as SMA bought their stuff. Might be that AMF just also bought it.. And happened to get a similar or the same soruce

brisk ember Apr 20, 2019, 7:10 PM

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I still don't understand how SMA would have released the HKs more than 2 years before AMF even got to it, as is then the one stealing

twilit ridge Apr 20, 2019, 7:10 PM

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Hmm, I dont hink AMF stole something, I have been able to be part of their internal development discord, they regularly post pictures of development internally.

brisk ember Apr 20, 2019, 7:11 PM

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So then SMA grabbed their stuff, traveled back in time and released it more than 2 years prior?

twilit ridge Apr 20, 2019, 7:11 PM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/484709623526588416/495234521038323732/WIP1.png?width=1202&height=677

soft egret Apr 20, 2019, 7:11 PM

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If they didn't steal then they bought it or got it from a free source maybe

twilit ridge Apr 20, 2019, 7:11 PM

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I dont know, i am not speaking for them, but neither against

soft egret Apr 20, 2019, 7:11 PM

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Like.. Very clearly SMA did NOT steal from AMF.
That's simply impossible

twilit ridge Apr 20, 2019, 7:12 PM

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all i have been able to do is watch the development closely.

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I will go ahead and ask them.

echo orchid Apr 20, 2019, 7:12 PM

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what is AMF?

brisk ember Apr 20, 2019, 7:13 PM

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ArmA Mod France

soft egret Apr 20, 2019, 7:13 PM

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Arma mod france. Scroll up 😉

brisk ember Apr 20, 2019, 7:13 PM

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Released 2018

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(first release)

echo orchid Apr 20, 2019, 7:13 PM

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scroll up 😄

brisk ember Apr 20, 2019, 7:13 PM

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But the time-travelling SMA apparently stole their stuff, went back to pre-2016 and released it 😄

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Gotta love some of the implied logic

twilit ridge Apr 20, 2019, 7:15 PM

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Who implied that?

brisk ember Apr 20, 2019, 7:15 PM

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The guy that came in SMA stole stuff from AMF

soft egret Apr 20, 2019, 7:15 PM

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The guy who reported it

twilit ridge Apr 20, 2019, 7:15 PM

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haha

brisk ember Apr 20, 2019, 7:15 PM

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||You didn't see that||

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Nawh you lying dedmen

soft egret Apr 20, 2019, 7:16 PM

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weirdly enough that guy left the discord again. Despite telling us he'd get screenshots for us

brisk ember Apr 20, 2019, 7:16 PM

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I'm having BECTI seattle flashbacks

soft egret Apr 20, 2019, 7:17 PM

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That's the second case today of: join discord, throw accusation around, leave again.

twilit ridge Apr 20, 2019, 7:18 PM

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I have asked in the AMF Internal Discord to verify how they got the HK416, i will post any findings.

fossil basalt Apr 20, 2019, 7:20 PM

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A Public Apology

I was wrong.

The basis for my belief that Liveandletdie was SpanishSurfer was based upon an IP address that they both shared. Both of their accounts were linked by that address and had done so for many years. I had verified it 3 times yesterday. Unfortunately, when (at Dedmens suggestion) I tried it again, the addresses resolved to different locations. I'm not sure if it was due to the location I had checked it from or what, because the results were completely different when attempted from a different location.

So, as I've promised before, if I screw up and get things wrong, I'll apologise for it. With that being said,

To @proper folio and Liveandletdie, I apologise. I got this one wrong.

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Liveandletdie has had his ban revoked.

proper folio Apr 20, 2019, 7:21 PM

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thx, np :)

white hawk Apr 20, 2019, 7:34 PM

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Hi guys , I heard about amf rob models of sma . That false . We recruiting artists in artstation. Take a look too the uv. Pls before say this kind of thing verify your sources .

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i Will be happy show the framework

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But actually I’m not home.

kindred glen Apr 20, 2019, 7:36 PM

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Thank you sir for order being restored, please look into LightYagami as if anyone is connected to spanish surfer its him

white hawk Apr 20, 2019, 7:50 PM

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Ahhh I can’t put pictures . Take a look too the artstation profile aleksandar pap . This is the amf hk416 creator .

soft egret Apr 20, 2019, 8:02 PM

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Yeah that report was nonsense. no worries

karmic wing Apr 20, 2019, 8:09 PM

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hi here, I'm a staff member of AMF, sorry we gonna have haters for some time now. :/ AMF HK416 is a model from our artists. This dude @dusky rover just pop up on our public discord last night and disappear since, like here, I can't send him any PM because of this, maybe it's better for him. 😃 Sorry for the inconvenience and good game to all

white hawk Apr 20, 2019, 8:09 PM

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Ok thanks

dull moon Apr 20, 2019, 8:13 PM

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cough... cough...
#other_ip_topics

brisk ember Apr 20, 2019, 8:51 PM

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No worries about it guys @karmic wing his statements were rather shady and not taken seriously 😉

manic lark Apr 21, 2019, 3:22 PM

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Honestly the worst thing going on is that the people enforcing all of this have no real clue what is actually going on. This is why moderator staff need a modder who understands how the rest of us are catching all these people.

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Having to explain during that whole VSM thing how two models having similar UVs and textures did not mean they used the same references gave me cancer.

soft egret Apr 21, 2019, 3:27 PM

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I know how that stuff works 👋

queen wing Apr 21, 2019, 3:27 PM

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You do, but it seems all of the others don’t tbh

manic lark Apr 21, 2019, 3:30 PM

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Then maybe all of those complaints need to go through you and not the others who have to google what topology means

queen wing Apr 21, 2019, 3:32 PM

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Yes I agree

manic lark Apr 21, 2019, 3:42 PM

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Perhaps you make a channel where approved and verified people who actually know what they are talking about and can tell if the models are stolen/ripped can help the moderators figure it out.

soft egret Apr 21, 2019, 3:44 PM

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^ AMA discord might be useful for that

manic lark Apr 21, 2019, 3:52 PM

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No clue what that is

soft egret Apr 21, 2019, 3:53 PM

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Discord of about two dozen modders
@dull moon these people might want a invite

manic lark Apr 21, 2019, 3:54 PM

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Ah

dull moon Apr 21, 2019, 3:56 PM

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didn't follow up. smb TL;DR?

queen wing Apr 21, 2019, 3:58 PM

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We talked about the idea that it would be nice if some forums moderators would have more of a clue what is part of modding (aka understanding models/textures/etc)

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That lead to the suggestion of a place where verified ppl can assist mods in telling if something is ripped or not

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To which dedman suggested AMA

dull moon Apr 21, 2019, 4:02 PM

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moderators on here are mostly modders themselves and should know what they are talking about. the moderators who have a closer eye on this channel are already members of the AMA discord

queen wing Apr 21, 2019, 4:02 PM

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sorry, meant BI forums moderators

dull moon Apr 21, 2019, 4:02 PM

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homesick is already consulting this AMA discord when i doubt of something

manic lark Apr 21, 2019, 4:04 PM

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lol

dull moon Apr 21, 2019, 4:05 PM

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what's to lol about?

manic lark Apr 21, 2019, 4:08 PM

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that you specifically mention homesick

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was the ‘consulting’ going on before homesick came aboard or is that a new thing

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just curious

dull moon Apr 21, 2019, 4:10 PM

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he's a guest for quite some time now

manic lark Apr 21, 2019, 4:11 PM

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so then that would be a no

dull moon Apr 21, 2019, 4:14 PM

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there was no "yes or no" question

soft egret Apr 21, 2019, 4:15 PM

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yes AMA discord existed before homesick came in
And we also had moderators in there since before that

manic lark Apr 21, 2019, 4:16 PM

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the question “was the ‘consulting’ going on before homesick came aboard or is that a new thing” was answered by Chris saying homesick has been a guest for some time now.... so yes it is not a yes or no question, but also no your question did not answer it......

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thanks dedmen

fossil basalt Apr 21, 2019, 7:56 PM

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"Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones"

manic lark Apr 21, 2019, 9:28 PM

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a quote from a friend of yours perhaps?

brisk ember Apr 21, 2019, 9:39 PM

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does it matter though

wild stone Apr 22, 2019, 7:57 AM

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@manic lark sounds like you have some issue with BI Forum Moderators, you have to understand not all of us make content. Also perhaps remember we do all this as volunteers.

queen wing Apr 22, 2019, 10:52 AM

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While that is completely understandable and I respect that, maybe the forums moderators that don't have a history of addon making should get taught on the subjects (to a basic understanding ofc) or something, after all the BI forums consists 90% of mod makers so it would only make sense in my eyes that the people who are moderators there have the understanding of what is all part of the process. Just an idea, not saying that you are doing anything wrong or telling you how to do your job, just a thought

fossil basalt Apr 22, 2019, 12:19 PM

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@manic lark @queen wing I'm not seeing the point that you two are trying to make. Bans for stealing/ripping (on the forum) are never carried out quickly. Each must be vetted and then approved by the CM. It is why there are still ongoing investigations. Additionally, the results and punishment are rarely made public. Regarding was the ‘consulting’ going on before homesick came aboard or is that a new thing yes, it absolutely was.

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I personally don't ban these types of individuals. I know "the basics", but defer to those with more experience than myself. When large modding teams are banned (VSM for example) a lot of work goes into investigating them. The reason is that the last thing we want to do is falsely ban someone. The process behind it is very thorough and diplomatic. No ONE moderator can push an agenda.

queen wing Apr 22, 2019, 12:27 PM

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I perfectly understand and have no issues with any of that at all, as that was not my point, i was just providing an idea to maybe help you guys out more. hope no hard feelings were created 😃

fossil basalt Apr 22, 2019, 12:27 PM

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No, none at all.

brisk ember Apr 22, 2019, 1:11 PM

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I'm sure Foxone has had enough of his content reuploaded by people for the USAF 2015 mod 😉

blissful topaz Apr 22, 2019, 2:29 PM

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hi if someone stole my dialogs is it possible to DMCA them?

soft egret Apr 22, 2019, 2:29 PM

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sure. If your stuff is 100% in there, you can DMCA for it

blissful topaz Apr 22, 2019, 2:30 PM

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yea they just changed the text label to there server

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like wtf

snow bloom Apr 23, 2019, 7:18 PM

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Selling mods is against the EULA right?

dull moon Apr 23, 2019, 7:20 PM

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Selling content that was created with BI tools and technology is against eula.

snow bloom Apr 23, 2019, 7:20 PM

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https://steamcommunity.com/app/107410/discussions/20/1679189548072678763/- Why am I not surprised to see that on steam forums then

dull moon Apr 23, 2019, 7:22 PM

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Selling models
Using the wrong forum
.........

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Fail

soft egret Apr 23, 2019, 7:22 PM

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selling source files would be fine. p3d/pbo/ebo is not tho

faint nacelle Apr 23, 2019, 7:33 PM

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I think I've seen this guy before

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few years back

echo orchid Apr 23, 2019, 7:34 PM

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the quality of these "skyscrapers" are fenomenal

tulip nexus Apr 23, 2019, 7:38 PM

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beautiful backfaces

dull moon Apr 23, 2019, 8:08 PM

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Are those untextured sketchup models?

echo orchid Apr 23, 2019, 9:26 PM

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or just as bad

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could bet he just "ported" them and nothing else

echo orchid Apr 24, 2019, 7:01 PM

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this shit has arma3 .p3d files

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1716655389
is foxhound from Aholic about here?

soft egret Apr 24, 2019, 7:03 PM

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8 Point cover .p3d was borrowed from RHS:USAF. wat?
Haven't seen anything from foxhound for about half a year I think

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nvm I just didn't look close enough. Last active on BIF today if you wanna reach him then there is prolly best

echo orchid Apr 24, 2019, 7:16 PM

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😦

echo orchid Apr 24, 2019, 8:10 PM

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1999...BIF inbox is worse than before

vernal thunder Apr 24, 2019, 8:40 PM

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I have run into that guy before, Was trying to sell crappy life models that he probably made in roblox or something.

gilded jay Apr 28, 2019, 6:30 PM

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https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/car/suv/offroad-fighter

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/File:Arma2_oa_landrover_special.jpg

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Not 100% that its stolen asset but it looks pretty close. Dont have arma 2 installed or I'd be able to better compare

heady stump Apr 28, 2019, 6:36 PM

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while I think that in other games it'd be immediately something suspicious. Arma has it's vehicles / weapons based on real ones. So it could be literally just another model of the same type

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except those jerry cans?

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don't think that's a staple of a certain vehicle

faint nacelle Apr 28, 2019, 6:49 PM

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it does seem to have exact same configuration down to the extra armor plates at the rear

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same/very similar camo colors but pattern cant be certain of since pics are from different sides

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the model info given is pretty much 0 so "pro" looking work without any professianlism in how they are presented

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publish date is way after OA too so cant be that BI bought the model

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http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-OwDMJV9wnTY/UcfrNBElXZI/AAAAAAAACSY/2hNH7QguaDY/s1600/Land_rover2.png

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https://img-new.cgtrader.com/items/598538/361315284b/offroad-fighter-3d-model-3ds.png

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well the camo pattern seems exactly the same too

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Id say its stolen from Arma2

soft egret Apr 28, 2019, 7:13 PM

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Now just make sure to send that email, else BI will never see it

gilded jay Apr 28, 2019, 7:27 PM

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Good find on the picture, my google fu was failing me and i was too lazy to install arma 2

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Yeah definitely a rip

hollow mortar Apr 30, 2019, 4:25 PM

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Is editing and then reuploading the functions of the Warlords gamemode to the Workshop against some Arma 3 TOS?

fossil basalt Apr 30, 2019, 5:00 PM

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@hollow mortar Best to ask in #warlords_discussion if you haven't already. Jezuro is the author.

hollow mortar Apr 30, 2019, 9:31 PM

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Alright thanks

lone basin Apr 30, 2019, 11:41 PM

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^ @hidden scaffold #other_ip_topics would be more suitted. #ip_rights_violations is for violations wich concerns directly Bohemia ArmA 3 iirc

hidden scaffold Apr 30, 2019, 11:49 PM

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ohh, my bad. I didnt know since everyone usually posts this stuff here. Apologies.

dull moon Apr 30, 2019, 11:58 PM

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np

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has changed a few weeks ago

lone basin Apr 30, 2019, 11:58 PM

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Yeah, that was reminded not to long ago.
https://discordapp.com/channels/105462288051380224/105792634995388416/562732084892794930
If you want more

blissful topaz May 4, 2019, 9:13 AM

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got a question if someone stole a mission file and it contains my work can i DMCA? and how so?

brisk ember May 4, 2019, 9:21 AM

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what kind of mission file?

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/what mission

blissful topaz May 4, 2019, 9:30 AM

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RP

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roleplay

brisk ember May 4, 2019, 10:38 AM

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And what would your work entail?

blissful topaz May 4, 2019, 2:31 PM

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Dialogs/Scripts

brisk ember May 4, 2019, 2:53 PM

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Complex or rather simple?

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Can't DMCA straight-forward things IIRC

drowsy sail May 4, 2019, 5:50 PM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1731490959&searchtext= ripped from Tom Clancy's the Division

fossil yacht May 7, 2019, 1:40 PM

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we must brotect ubisoft

fossil basalt May 7, 2019, 1:56 PM

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thou shalt not steal

royal charm May 9, 2019, 3:52 PM

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Yeah, but do they deserve our protection? 😆

blissful topaz May 10, 2019, 2:32 AM

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How can i dmca a server that stole all my dialogs

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?

soft egret May 10, 2019, 6:08 AM

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Google on how to write a DMCA, and send it via E-Mail or Snailmail to their hosting provider

dry lichen May 10, 2019, 7:28 AM

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Not really sure what else to do but I found out recently one of the mods I was subbed to through the steam workshop is just a straight rip and re-upload of a mod already on the workshop. I talked to the real mod author and he's tried asking the guy to take it down, he filed a DMCA months ago, the workshop page has been reported multiple times, the user has been reported. The mod is still up on the workshop. The guy didn't even figure out how to replace the server key with his own until a week ago. Is there anything else that can be done?

soft egret May 10, 2019, 7:29 AM

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If a DMCA has been filed then it won't still be up. Maybe he reuploaded it

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keep filing DMCA's

bitter sierra May 10, 2019, 4:16 PM

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Hey if you guys are going to be autists that require people to use your specific Steam workshop release vs. hosting it in a mod pack can you do the world a favor and release on a Tuesday or something instead of a Friday when literally everyone else is trying to play?

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Thanks - your resident asshole.

dry lichen May 10, 2019, 4:55 PM

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@soft egret thanks brother

echo orchid May 10, 2019, 6:40 PM

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@bitter sierra be autists that require people to use your specific Steam workshop release vs. hosting it in a mod pack can you do the world a favor and release on a Tuesday or something instead of a Friday when literally everyone else is trying to play?
a. autistic is a illness, i wouldn't make fun of it just you can be an asshat
b. people will release whenever is more convenient for the person(s) who actually does the work that gets released
c. there is zero relation to this particular channel

bitter sierra May 10, 2019, 6:40 PM

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(y)

echo orchid May 10, 2019, 6:41 PM

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@dry lichen - easiest thing to do is DMCA their service providers - as in the server host or co-location and / or their website provider

royal charm May 10, 2019, 8:23 PM

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@echo orchid you mean, easiest legal thing to do is DMCA their service providers

echo orchid May 10, 2019, 8:29 PM

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@royal charm assuming we are in IP rights violation channel, yes, that is what i meant

lone basin May 11, 2019, 6:52 PM

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Bohemia's Monetization Team still investigate reports or not? Got no response from the 3 last report (one was made 2 week ago and the other one, early February).

soft egret May 11, 2019, 6:55 PM

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yes they do

lone basin May 11, 2019, 6:56 PM

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Oh okey. Usually they answer pretty fast :/

dusk dew May 11, 2019, 11:15 PM

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I've not received responses or updates a bunch

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I just gave up

wild stone May 13, 2019, 11:23 PM

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@dusk dew patience is a virtue, but ultimately depends how long you waited. Also you could prompt them again if urgent.

keen trout May 14, 2019, 6:16 AM

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steamcmd

fossil basalt May 14, 2019, 7:38 AM

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!purgeban @manic lark 25d Alignment with Forum ban

edgy coralBOT May 14, 2019, 7:38 AM

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*fires them railguns at @manic lark* Ò_Ó

tawdry dagger May 14, 2019, 4:30 PM

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lmao why did warden get banned

uncut hedge May 14, 2019, 4:34 PM

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"Alignment with Forum ban"

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@tawdry dagger

stoic wolf May 18, 2019, 9:34 PM

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I have recently created a3_unpacked repo on github with unpacked a3 text files (sqf, cpp, xml, etc.), no bin, no models, no textures, no sounds. It was banned for DMCA takedown. I have only one question about it, please answer: what damage could that repo cause?

soft egret May 18, 2019, 9:36 PM

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What damage? none

dull moon May 18, 2019, 9:36 PM

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afaik redistribution of unpacked arma 3 content violates the EULA. questions should be addressed to the contact listed in the DMCA, or the email written in the channel description

soft egret May 18, 2019, 9:36 PM

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But you are aware that sharing game files violates the EULA?

stoic wolf May 18, 2019, 9:37 PM

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I ask about damage. No need to mention eula

soft egret May 18, 2019, 9:37 PM

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Damage. You violated the eula. That's the damage it caused

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FYI usually people who do that get instantly banned from all bohemia platforms (forums, discord and such)

stoic wolf May 18, 2019, 9:38 PM

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eula violating is not damage at all. Please answer about real damage

dull moon May 18, 2019, 9:39 PM

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the damage is whatever BI thinks the damage is.

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for example:
the game updates, your stuff is outdated, ppl use your outdated data, bug occur with the up do date game, ppl file tickets that are false, employees have to investigate, employees cost money, damage to BI

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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next question please

stoic wolf May 18, 2019, 9:41 PM

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you must be kidding

dull moon May 18, 2019, 9:42 PM

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you asked for an answer, you got a real one

fossil basalt May 18, 2019, 9:42 PM

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You are are aware you're being banned right?

dull moon May 18, 2019, 9:42 PM

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now move on please

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and before others jump on this, don't...

fossil basalt May 18, 2019, 9:43 PM

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Banned. Conversation left in place for evidence.

dull moon May 18, 2019, 9:43 PM

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understood

patent sun May 19, 2019, 1:32 PM

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The audacity of some people

fallen hamlet May 20, 2019, 6:30 PM

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honestly, putting a ban on Dystopian has accomplished nothing

dull moon May 20, 2019, 6:36 PM

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that's obviously not our call to make

soft egret May 20, 2019, 6:38 PM

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Rule violation == ban
accomplished nothing? You mean we should just show people they can just violate the rules because they feel like it without being punished for it?

fallen hamlet May 20, 2019, 8:20 PM

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he just came and asked. probably if asked, he may have removed it without much discussion. You among all dedmen, should now this, so don't act two faced in here

wild stone May 20, 2019, 8:21 PM

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@fallen hamlet thats enough of those comments. Especially towards a moderator. We have rules for a reason, if you can't follow them. Then there are consequences.

soft egret May 20, 2019, 8:28 PM

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He already got DMCA'ed by bohemia. He didn't come here to ask, he came here to complain about being DMCA'ed for it and asking what bad he was doing by breaking the EULA, trying to argue that he didn't do anything wrong.

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As matter of fact, after being DMCA'ed he asked someone else to reupload it for him, who in turn then also got banned.
Doesn't really leave any room for discussion.

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I'm pretty tolerant in that regard, if you genuinely didn't know, and fix it right after you get told. No problem.
But instead getting someone else to re-do that violation for you to get around the DMCA, and then complaining in here that you didn't do anything wrong and just ignore everyone trying to talk sense into you. That's where my tolerance ends too

fallen hamlet May 20, 2019, 8:36 PM

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He did not even reupload!

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we all have copies of a3 extracted files to compile stuff

soft egret May 20, 2019, 8:44 PM

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having a3 extracted files doesn't violate the EULA

dull moon May 20, 2019, 8:55 PM

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having it redistributed on a public accessible repository the other hand is

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(iirc)

fallen hamlet May 20, 2019, 8:56 PM

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so uploading in a private cloud would not violate anything?

dull moon May 20, 2019, 8:59 PM

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if not accessible by 3rd, it's basically having a backup of your modding structure on a external drive

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as long as you not share it

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this would be illegal redistribution of game files outside the BI enviroment

fallen hamlet May 20, 2019, 9:00 PM

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yup, then why the ban to that other person if it was not even uploaded?

dull moon May 20, 2019, 9:00 PM

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ergo = EULA violation

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i know nothing about an additional ban, at least not sure who you mean...

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was not involved in this

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if you're referring to the same person i think you mean, this case is already handed over to BI officials

fossil basalt May 20, 2019, 9:15 PM

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@fallen hamlet the act of uploading to a private cloud alone constitutes redistribution

fallen hamlet May 20, 2019, 9:19 PM

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no, it doesn't. it's your private copy. otherwise you could not even use external drives for this

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redistributing is what debian does.

lone basin May 20, 2019, 9:20 PM

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Depends on what you call a "private cloud"

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If your private cloud is business-wide (I mean that all employees of your company can access the files), then it probably is a violation of the EULA. If it's just something than only you have access to, it probably isn't. Not a lawyer but seems to be the most logical thing to me.

fossil basalt May 20, 2019, 10:11 PM

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Remember, ”the cloud” is a 3rd party computer. The bans will stay and have been upheld by BI. There will be no further discussion on the issue @fallen hamlet

royal charm May 20, 2019, 10:30 PM

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If BI was able to DMCA, then they were able to see the repo. If they were able to see the repo, it was not "private".

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Generally rulebreaking isn't even the reason for most bans here. Most bans are typically for people who are too stubborn to recognize their rulebreaking or change their ways.

fossil basalt May 21, 2019, 1:46 AM

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💯

fallen hamlet May 21, 2019, 4:32 AM

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And this is where you are both wrong

fossil basalt May 21, 2019, 4:34 AM

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Last Warning @fallen hamlet Next action will result in a ban.

chilly silo May 21, 2019, 6:27 AM

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A lot of people seem to have a problem with the Concept of PRIVATE vs PUBLIC.
From the legal standpoint PRIVATE is something you do for YOURSELF and stays on YOUR PC.
The moment you SHARE that content, upload it to a repository that is accessable to ANYONE else for ANY purpose it becomes PUBLIC.

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How do I know this? I've been to court over IP related to my previous business and won against someone attempting to use "It was for Private use" as a defence. And before anyone says but its different in my country, It depends on where the IP originates. In this case the defendants were in France and the US. The case was heard in the UK. Believe me, they ending up paying all my costs and then some.

wintry otter May 21, 2019, 8:49 AM

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Whoa...

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A little question, (obviously, I've been posting it in wrong feeds), is it okay to have a song play in your campaign? I have Pink Floyd playing in mine, and I really wish it were there... But isn't that some kind of author rights violation or something?

faint nacelle May 21, 2019, 8:55 AM

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if youre uploading it with the mission then yes that would be an issue

tiny flame May 22, 2019, 5:54 AM

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KA weapons pack has assets stolen from metro 2033 slightly edited

echo orchid May 22, 2019, 8:26 AM

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that is no news

tiny flame May 22, 2019, 8:38 AM

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Oh

civic zenith May 22, 2019, 12:30 PM

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I do like watching this for drama 😗

inland scarab May 22, 2019, 6:45 PM

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I like watching it to see how many times they throw down the ban hammer per day. It’s a ridiculous amount.

soft egret May 22, 2019, 6:46 PM

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149 banhammers today

patent sun May 22, 2019, 6:46 PM

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I like qhen people get shitty with the mods..

soft egret May 22, 2019, 6:46 PM

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339 banhammers yesterday.

patent sun May 22, 2019, 6:46 PM

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Seriously?

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Holy crap

soft egret May 22, 2019, 6:47 PM

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https://s.sqf.ovh/Discord_2019-05-22_20-47-29.png last 7 days

patent sun May 22, 2019, 6:48 PM

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All for IP violations?

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Or just general dickheadery?

soft egret May 22, 2019, 6:48 PM

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No in general.
There were two IP violation ban in last month

patent sun May 22, 2019, 6:48 PM

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Oh, ok.

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Wow thats a lot

echo orchid May 23, 2019, 7:51 AM

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bots? @soft egret

soft egret May 23, 2019, 7:54 AM

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bots.

carmine folio May 23, 2019, 8:39 PM

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Whats exactly the purpose of this channel?

soft egret May 23, 2019, 8:40 PM

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Channel description

carmine folio May 23, 2019, 8:40 PM

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I'm in mobile

final mural May 23, 2019, 8:42 PM

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Drag from the right smh

carmine folio May 23, 2019, 8:43 PM

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Ah sorry i totally forgot about that

carmine folio May 27, 2019, 2:48 PM

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Not sure if this is meant to be posted here but, it looks like the A2 Czech backpack is forsale on the unity asset store. https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/3d/props/clothing/5-backpacks-hq-pbr-119747

faint nacelle May 27, 2019, 3:12 PM

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from the looks of the assets listed for the publisher its possible they are all ripped from somewhere

echo orchid May 27, 2019, 4:28 PM

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@carmine folio infringements@bistudio.com

flint anvil May 27, 2019, 4:31 PM

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The USAF mod by Sgt Fuller is using ripped content from the Battlefield games. This is a picture of Fuller's USAF pilot vest https://gyazo.com/90bfd01009bf87b4a8ef9e1ab9f25807 and this is a picture of the one from Battlefield https://gyazo.com/6640e423c71f2403f16a030a02796bfc

soft egret May 27, 2019, 5:13 PM

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I don't see it

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looks similar for sure. But if both are based on the real life thing that is to be expected

spare osprey May 27, 2019, 5:18 PM

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The shape of the cumber bun is different. The battlefield one is a straight cut.

tight isle May 27, 2019, 5:57 PM

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I was curious so I opened them both to confirm and if you can't tell that this is from Battlefield then you need to get your eyes checked... This one is Battlefields https://gyazo.com/00a1a20e0d2cad62c0f9b80a9b29afea and this one is Fuller's which is was retextured darker...https://gyazo.com/91e41ca105d367695d1c587ed5bd68b0

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the texture in the USAF mod is under the pbo USAF_Vests and the texture is PilotG.paa

dull moon May 27, 2019, 6:16 PM

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fuller is informed and investigating this case. since he's not know for ripping or any other misbehavior i guess he (or the one who included it) was not aware of the original origin.

soft egret May 27, 2019, 6:53 PM

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Bought on some 3d model site?

dull moon May 27, 2019, 6:54 PM

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most likely but i don't know

radiant ridge May 27, 2019, 7:19 PM

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would taking things from dayz and porting them to arma 3 be a no no?

tulip nexus May 27, 2019, 7:20 PM

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yes, it would

radiant ridge May 27, 2019, 7:20 PM

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rip

river spear May 27, 2019, 10:35 PM

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Intellectual property

dull moon May 27, 2019, 10:57 PM

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a wiki link to the description of IP (intellectual property)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_property

Intellectual property

Intellectual property (IP) is a category of property that includes intangible creations of the human intellect. Intellectual property encompasses two types of rights: industrial property rights (trademarks, patents, designations of origin, industrial designs and models) and c...

faint nacelle May 28, 2019, 1:30 AM

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@muted hearth It is also the thing you violate when you upload someone elses work on Steam for example. Like reuploading TFAR might result in DMCA

soft egret May 28, 2019, 7:05 AM

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@muted hearth keep in mind that all of that is against our rules. And I will have to remove you from here and file DMCA's against your reuploads if you don't take them down within a day.
You have already been banned from TFAR discord.

soft egret May 28, 2019, 7:42 AM

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Everything I listed contains illegal mod reuploads.

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You might be allowed to edit lakeside. But you are not allowed to reupload the other mods that happen to be bundled with lakeside

potent junco May 28, 2019, 2:26 PM

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I'm curious, if I was to make a mod that ports models from say Fallout 4, and make a mod for Arma 3 involving them, would that be a violation?

tulip nexus May 28, 2019, 2:39 PM

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yes

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I'm not sure what train of thought you'd have to be on to think that taking 3D assets from a commercial product and sharing them with people who in many cases will not have paid for the original product, would not somehow be illegal

potent junco May 28, 2019, 2:45 PM

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Well alright, well would it still be a violation if I made a model completely from scratch using a image of the original?

soft egret May 28, 2019, 2:46 PM

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That might be IP violation yes. Depends if designs or things are trademarked
For huge AAA games that identify themselves by their design... they are probably trademarked.

potent junco May 28, 2019, 2:48 PM

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I was thinking of doing a project, basically attempting to recreate the pre-war US armed forces of the Fallout franchise for fun, like learn how modding works and that (It'd take a long time haha) but I didn't want to do a lot of work and have it all taken down and that

tight isle May 28, 2019, 4:20 PM

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Any news on Fuller with his ripped battlefield content in the USAF pack because the poor VSM guy got his mod taken down, his name destroyed, and banned all for having a battlefield uniform

dull moon May 28, 2019, 4:44 PM

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fuller is investigating. not much more info there. and for VSM, there where chat screenshots of him knowing before hand that he's using ripped content

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like: "lol, dumb bit**s won't realize it anyway..."
(sort of)

tight isle May 28, 2019, 4:46 PM

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I heard he bought the battlefield uniforms off "cgtrader"

narrow topaz May 28, 2019, 4:46 PM

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It's also only been 24 hours, half of which was a holiday for some of the world. Some degree of patience is necessary for communication/investigation/action.

dull moon May 28, 2019, 4:48 PM

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even if he (VSM) bought it on a website, he knew it was ripped

tight isle May 28, 2019, 4:48 PM

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But even if Fuller had somebody put it in his mod how could anybody not know it was the battlefield vest lol

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i knew it was it just by looking at it

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"Battlefield 3 going hunting" Legendary mission

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also i'm not trying to start an argument i'm just debating

dull moon May 28, 2019, 4:51 PM

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VSM was one or two guys, USAF mod is a lot more people working on it. if somebody comes up and be like: "yo, got a vest for ya, want me to put it in?" there is little to no chance he can identify it in a blink of an eye. happened to us also recently. one of the helmets that was donated to us was a rip and we didn't know

tight isle May 28, 2019, 4:53 PM

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Ya I understand that but shouldn't the project lead be 100% responsible for whatever content is put in the mod, I'm pretty sure that vest isn't a recent edition. That vest has been in there since like 2015

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1669071078 \addons\FIR_A10A.pbo \addons\FIR_A10C_Cfg.pbo \addons\FIR_AirWeaponSystem_US.pbo \addons\FIR_F22.pbo

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1669071078
\addons\FIR_A10A.pbo
\addons\FIR_A10C_Cfg.pbo
\addons\FIR_AirWeaponSystem_US.pbo
\addons\FIR_F22.pbo