#headless_client | ARMA | Page 3

subtle horizon Jun 1, 2025, 10:10 PM

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I do yeah, I can shoot it in here later when I’m back to my pc

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But the RPT when I was checking didn’t have anything out of place

heavy tiger Jan 16, 2016, 2:32 PM

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@elder sail also very interested in that... i run my HC on a headless machine without steam login... :/

wintry herald Jan 16, 2016, 2:39 PM

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Steam client is not needed for HC anymore

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IIRC

heavy tiger Jan 16, 2016, 2:50 PM

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@wintry herald i know.. i even said that ^^ But i wonder how they do it with Apex... Not being able to drive a vehicle is not a problem for HC but not being able to load a terrain might....

languid tusk Jan 16, 2016, 3:33 PM

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You will probably be required to download the Apex content along with the engine update.

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Access will be lock to authorized clients, but loading it as a headless profile would be possible.

wintry herald Jan 16, 2016, 4:01 PM

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Am i not right in saying the content is technically there but due to the lack of a valid licence its inactive

heavy tiger Jan 16, 2016, 4:05 PM

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yeah thats the question. Whether the HC will ignore if it has the license and just be able to use it without it

half forum Jun 10, 2025, 2:17 PM

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Is there any difference between using "arma3server.exe -client" or "arma3.exe" for HC?

small pewter Jun 10, 2025, 2:55 PM

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Why would scripts run on Headless client for AI have huge delay while the same scripts run on player client machines would work perfectly without delays?

Like a thread which forces the unit/agent to move to new position every 0.2 sec in a while do scheduled environment, would execute perfectly well on player client. But on HC the same script would run only every 1-2 sec.
There is a huge scheduled environment delays on HC out of nowhere.

ruby wigeon Jun 10, 2025, 2:56 PM

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Either you have a lot of other scheduled scripts running on the HC or it's running at extremely low FPS.

small pewter Jun 10, 2025, 3:38 PM

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ruby wigeon Either you have a lot of other scheduled scripts running on the HC or it's runni...

Neither. These are logs from HC:
//diag_fps // diag_fpsMin // diag_frameNo // activeScripts

18:29:09 "HC FPS 333.333 minFPS 333.333 curFPS 46461 activeScripts [3,0,0,0]" 18:29:10 "HC FPS 333.333 minFPS 333.333 curFPS 46795 activeScripts [3,0,0,0]" 18:29:11 "HC FPS 326.531 minFPS 250 curFPS 47129 activeScripts [3,0,0,0]" 18:29:12 "HC FPS 333.333 minFPS 250 curFPS 47440 activeScripts [3,0,0,0]" 18:29:55 "HC FPS 340.426 minFPS 250 curFPS 61677 activeScripts [5,0,0,0]" 18:29:56 "HC FPS 333.333 minFPS 250 curFPS 62011 activeScripts [5,0,0,0]" 18:29:57 "HC FPS 333.333 minFPS 250 curFPS 62344 activeScripts [5,0,0,0]" 18:29:58 "HC FPS 326.531 minFPS 250 curFPS 62678 activeScripts [5,0,0,0]"

But scripts are very sluggish. Like all sleep times are 20x at least. Other code like killed event handlers can lag too.
Everything is run and tested on the same machine, so it isn't network too.

HC is quite a disappointment so far. Seems like we need a real client instead of HC to run AI..

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Run and tested using profiling, but seems to be the same with main branch.
Headless client as "client" just doesn't make any sense. If it was acting as real client, it would work fine.

ruby wigeon Jun 10, 2025, 3:44 PM

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What's your test exactly?

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You mean like sleep 0.2 will reliably only fire every two seconds?

small pewter Jun 10, 2025, 3:48 PM

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ruby wigeon What's your test exactly?

simple zombie following logic. Using playMoveNow and setVectorDir the Zombie follows the player in a direct path if it sees the player. Currently it is checked every 0.015 - 0.2 secs (depends on distance from zombie to player).
On real clients it works perfectly.
On HC it is like sleep time is 2-4 seconds.

small pewter Jun 10, 2025, 3:49 PM

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ruby wigeon You mean like sleep 0.2 will reliably only fire every two seconds?

yeah. tried uisleep too.

ruby wigeon Jun 10, 2025, 3:55 PM

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hmm, works fine for me:

2025/06/10, 16:54:21 "Sleep test @ 497.122, 46.1095 fps"
2025/06/10, 16:54:21 "Sleep test @ 497.339, 46.3768 fps"
2025/06/10, 16:54:22 "Sleep test @ 497.554, 46.1095 fps"
2025/06/10, 16:54:22 "Sleep test @ 497.769, 46.5116 fps"
2025/06/10, 16:54:22 "Sleep test @ 497.985, 46.3768 fps"

small pewter Jun 10, 2025, 4:11 PM

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ruby wigeon hmm, works fine for me: ``` 2025/06/10, 16:54:21 "Sleep test @ 497.122, 46.1095 ...

Yeah, "fine" for me too.
19:06:57 "DirectPath HC sleep 245.146 FPS 372.093"
19:06:57 "DirectPath HC sleep 245.219 FPS 340.426"
19:06:57 "DirectPath HC sleep 245.291 FPS 363.636"
19:06:58 "DirectPath HC sleep 245.362 FPS 355.556"
19:06:58 "DirectPath HC sleep 245.433 FPS 372.093"
19:06:58 "DirectPath HC sleep 245.503 FPS 340.426"
19:06:58 "DirectPath HC sleep 245.573 FPS 390.244"

But not in the real game case=\
Agents simply lag on HC, their ragdoll delays when they die, the scripts are "delayed". All with 0 desync and 0 ping because there is localhost connection.

ruby wigeon Jun 10, 2025, 4:14 PM

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So it's not the sleep time? The effects of your commands just seem delayed from the client side?

small pewter Jun 10, 2025, 4:14 PM

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ruby wigeon So it's not the sleep time? The effects of your commands just seem delayed from ...

yep

ruby wigeon Jun 10, 2025, 4:14 PM

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There's obviously some extra latency because everything has to bounce client -> server -> hc -> server -> client, although it's not usually very visible at those frame rates.

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The only real gotcha I found with headless clients is that they act more like a client with the camera at the position of the HC logic object than a dedicated server.

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So you really want to keep the HC logic object somewhere near the units that are spawning on it.

small pewter Jun 10, 2025, 4:18 PM

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ruby wigeon So you really want to keep the HC logic object somewhere near the units that are...

So it is better to have HC within viewDistance of the units? I had this thought, though it didn't make much sense, but it's arma.

ruby wigeon Jun 10, 2025, 4:18 PM

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The obvious effect is on Fired/FiredNear event handlers, but it would plausibly affect network updates too.

small pewter Jun 10, 2025, 4:20 PM

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Currently the agent only changes his direction like every 2-3 secs
All the while there is setVectorDir command which should force him to turn to the player every 0.02 sec, but it doesn't happen specifically on HC 🙂
Will try and test HC within viewdistance.

small pewter Jun 10, 2025, 5:08 PM

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ruby wigeon The obvious effect is on Fired/FiredNear event handlers, but it would plausibly ...

didn't help unfortunately. Really weird how HC works with AI.
Welp, didn''t work for us. Client-only or make a full-client bot.

ruby wigeon Jun 10, 2025, 5:09 PM

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hmm. Might test that later.

raven cypress Jun 13, 2025, 6:41 AM

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hey i am having an issue where when the headless client connects none of the AI transfer over to the HC. I am using Zulu Headless Client (ZHC) btw. any help is appreciated

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what was the variable names for the HC's? I used HC1 and HC2 but they connect but dont transfer over any AI

raven cypress Jun 13, 2025, 8:45 AM

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nvm I figured it out lol

deft hamlet Jun 18, 2025, 2:14 PM

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@heavy tiger Idk if its been adressed somewhere else, but if i understand right, 2.20 comes with some improvements for AI calculations etc.

Does this have some effects on headless clients?

Are they now redundant, are they even more potent now or something in between?

heavy tiger Jun 18, 2025, 2:22 PM

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Game uses more threads. One HC still good, multiple on same machine probably bad.
Nothing about the concept of a headless client has changed. You still offload the load

regal venture Jun 25, 2025, 9:26 PM

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@subtle horizon
Same problem I have and stopped using the HC in Faster. It just worked one day and then not the next. Its been 4 months since I even tried it again until today. Same issue.
Did you find a fix?

blissful arrow Jun 27, 2025, 4:40 PM

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Question about HC's and 2.2. I have a server with an 8 core CPU, in some tests we were finding it was possible that the server and headless were competing for resources. Would it be worth limiting the headless and server to something like 4 cores each, or would it just be better to let the server have the whole CPU?

ruby wigeon Jun 28, 2025, 1:31 AM

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You would need to test on your hardware.

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(and typical mission environment)

hallow drum Jun 30, 2025, 11:53 PM

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hello guys im hosting a dedicated server using faster but when i try to run 1 headless client, ai and players starts rubberbanding and my server fps hovers arround 40-48 fps. And I just found out that my HC fps is arround 17 fps. Can you help me? I have ryzen 9 5950x 12 core processor and 16gb ram

ruby wigeon Jul 1, 2025, 1:14 AM

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Paste your server and HC RPTs.

hallow drum Jul 1, 2025, 1:54 AM

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How can i find them?

ruby wigeon Jul 1, 2025, 1:55 AM

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With Faster? In a folder with a giant random name.

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It shows you the command line somewhere, so where -profiles points.

hallow drum Jul 1, 2025, 9:42 AM

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i spent my all night troubleshooting this and i found that this mod was causing it https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1793762277&searchtext=white+phosphor

Steam Workshop::White_Phosphor_No_ACE

hallow drum Jul 1, 2025, 9:43 AM

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ruby wigeon Paste your server and HC RPTs.

and i find that thanks to you btw i checked HC RPT and saw that weird error happens with this mod

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thank you so much

trim socket Jan 19, 2016, 5:13 PM

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v10 is out #perf_prof_branch update ur HC too

elder sail Jan 20, 2016, 2:28 AM

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@trim socket can you comment on the apex license stuff above

wild laurel Aug 15, 2025, 4:16 PM

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cant for the life of me get ZHC to work

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followed the setup steps and all the AI say "Untransferred"

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Is there anyone that can help me with this?

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:10:37 [ZHC] (offload) INFO: ZHC Initialized
12:10:37 [ZHC] (offload) INFO: ZHC Cycle Start
12:10:43 B Alpha 1-1:1 (aaron) (Recon Marksman): Unknown action NextModeRightVehicleDisplay, target B Alpha 1-1:1 (aaron)
12:11:21 Ragdoll - loading of ragdoll source "Soldier" started.
12:11:21 Ragdoll - loading of ragdoll source "Soldier" finished successfully.
12:11:57 A null object passed as a target to RemoteExec(Call) 'bis_fnc_objectvar'
12:12:04 EPE manager release (432|506|0)
12:12:04 Number of joints in scene after release: 28
12:12:04 Number of actors in scene after release: 462
12:12:04 EPE manager release (0|462|0)
12:12:04 Number of joints in scene after release: 28
12:12:04 Number of actors in scene after release: 30
12:12:05 EPE manager release (0|30|0)

from the RPT

craggy zephyr Sep 7, 2025, 7:58 PM

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Hello all! I've been scratching my head for the past few days trying to use a headless client for a localhost server, since I want the performance benefits without the absolute physics jank of a dedicated server.
But no matter what I try the HC always get kicked with the error "steam authentication failed"
I don't even know if this is possible anymore or if it was patched some time ago, but I've read of people being able to do it so I'm banging my head against this right now trying to figure it out

sharp topaz Oct 17, 2025, 8:38 AM

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Same for me. Reactivated my Dedi Server for some new VN Projects and HC gets kicked because of Steam Authenficiation failed. Never had this before (last projects were around March this year)

Do I have to change some configs since last A3 Update?

fair harbor Oct 17, 2025, 9:43 PM

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@craggy zephyr @sharp topaz Using Profiling/Performance for Server and/or Headless Client?

sharp topaz Oct 18, 2025, 3:07 PM

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Thanks Crumble for the push in right direction. My server was on Profiling Branch and Batch File for Update didn't change. After deleting I have 2.20.0.152984 now and HC works perfect. Thanks again.

craggy zephyr Oct 21, 2025, 3:57 PM

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fair harbor <@173344006447562752> <@278956348576890891> Using Profiling/Performance for Serv...

Haven't tried yet, but to clarify I was having this problem with a localhost server and a HC, and I've read different things about this being viable or not. Could you give me a definitive answer on whether it's possible to use a HC on a localhost server?

timber yoke Nov 7, 2025, 4:49 PM

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Hi, im having trouble with the HC it will conect and appear sloted in on the lobby but once the mission starts it wont appear spawned and it will show it with 0 ping

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The 0 ping seems weird since HC isn´t on the same machine

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The problem is that the HC (Headless Client) is not connecting properly to the server. Although it can be seen in the slot, when you look at the players' section (when you open the map and change the tab) it appears with the symbol that it hasn't spawned yet (the hourglass) and if you select it, it shows maximum bandwidth (the largest positive integer a variable can store), ping 0, and desync 0.

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All this in the context of the SOG PF CDLC

timber yoke Nov 7, 2025, 11:32 PM

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Also do I need to buy a copy of the CDLC for the HC?

gentle hull Nov 16, 2025, 4:21 PM

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hey guys, making an operation for a server of 50 and would be using headless client to
make sure they are optimized for zeus and the players
how could i transfer zeus placed units to HC?
prefer placing units using zeus because, its more fun for me and also it helps me make sure the ai doesnt do dumb shit

dreamy wraith Nov 17, 2025, 11:10 PM

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If you're using ACE3, then enable automatic transfer via CBA Settings, Look for tab ACE Headless.

However if in understood that correctly adding waypoints, changing unit/group properties via Zeus or using Remote Control will change ownership or locality of affectwd units and AI will be transferred back do Server.

If you are not using those mods then either find some standalone mods on Steam workshop, maybe: Werthles' Headless Module.

If you don't want to use mods then it's complicated and spawning units via Zeus ain't gonna work with HC.

regal venture Nov 22, 2025, 6:23 PM

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Zulu works good if not better
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2450921295

Steam Workshop::Zulu Headless Client (ZHC)

ruby wigeon Nov 22, 2025, 6:26 PM

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Just don't enable both of them.

tepid nymph Dec 1, 2025, 7:06 PM

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trying to get a set of mods working (they are all in a subdirectory to the main A3server executable), all are given relative paths in -mods, same path as the server itself, yet the HC cant find any of them, they all display with origins of "NOT FOUND (Empty)" in the rpt and i cant quite figure out why

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this is a linux HC/dedi, for context

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nevermiiiiind, was just linux permissions being an ass!

void saffron Feb 8, 2016, 1:21 PM

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Any idea why my HC logic is still local to the server when my HC is connected ?

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running 1.56rc, running dedicated + HC on the same machine

void saffron Feb 8, 2016, 4:03 PM

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nevermind, the HC logic locality probably doesn't change, I'm use the profileName to differentiate which one it is.

void saffron Feb 9, 2016, 12:16 PM

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nope, isn't as of 1.56rc

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the vehicle and player var return <Null Object> , they are local to the host and you can use profileName for checking which one is connecting.

tidal pawn Feb 10, 2016, 12:58 PM

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player returns objNull on HC

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That's what I told you all. No one believed me.

void saffron Feb 10, 2016, 1:44 PM

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welp, now I know that's the case.

livid viper Feb 16, 2026, 7:48 PM

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Hello,
i have small problem that when i try to use headless client i keep getting this on my server rpt log

Type: Public
Build: Stable
Version: 2.20.152984

Client: headlessclient - Unauthorized Headless Client connection attempt from 127.0.0.1:2316
Client: headlessclient (2) - Unauthorized Headless Client connection attempt from 127.0.0.1:2328

and sometime

Client: headlessclient - Unauthorized Headless Client connection attempt from 127.0.0.1:2316
IP Ban added to 127.0.0.1 for 4294721 seconds
Client: headlessclient - Kicked off because of invalid ticket: Invalid ticket - Ticket invalid

when i have this on my server_config.cfg

headless_clients[] = {"127.0.0.1"};
local_clients[] = {"127.0.0.1"};
battleyeLicense=1;

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and this my HC run .bat

start "Arma3_HC_1" /normal /affinity F0 "%SERVER_DIR%\arma3server_x64.exe" ^
    -client ^
    -connect=127.0.0.1 ^
    -port=2302 ^
    -passwordAdmin=**********^
    -profiles="%CONFIG_PATH%\HC_1" ^
    -name=hc_1 ^
    -mod="%CLIENT_MODS%" ^
    -malloc=system ^
    -noSteam ^
    -noPause ^
    -noSound ^
    -showScriptErrors ^
    -enableHT

heavy tiger Feb 17, 2026, 8:33 AM

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livid viper Hello, i have small problem that when i try to use headless client i keep gettin...

The server.cfg entry has no underscore in it.
But also localhost should be whitelisted by default, so something is weird here

heavy tiger Feb 17, 2026, 9:15 AM

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"battleyeLicense" also is not a server.cfg entry

heavy tiger Feb 17, 2026, 9:16 AM

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heavy tiger The server.cfg entry has no underscore in it. But also localhost should be white...

localhost is only whitelisted, if the "headlessClients" config parameter exists. But it doesn't, that's why its not.

livid viper Feb 18, 2026, 4:19 PM

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heavy tiger localhost is only whitelisted, if the "headlessClients" config parameter exists....

Thx for your help; I figured out the problem—it was the wrong headlessClients and localClient class name:
Wrong | the problem

headless_clients[] = {"127.0.0.1"};
local_clients[] = {"127.0.0.1"};

Correct | fixed the problem

headlessClients[] =  {"127.0.0.1"};
localClient[] =  {"127.0.0.1"};

heavy tiger Feb 18, 2026, 4:26 PM

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As I said above.

The server.cfg entry has no underscore in it.

livid viper Feb 19, 2026, 5:56 AM

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My bad, totally glossed over that specific line while troubleshooting the rest. Fixed it now and everything is running smooth. Thanks for pointing it out again.

tardy wren Mar 23, 2026, 2:00 PM

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Hey i having some issue, for some reason I cannot add more ip on my headlessclients (ex : {"127.0.0.1","123.123.123.123"}, every time i put an extra ip, the config revertback to only {"127.0.0.1"};

i'm using pelican panel, is there anything that i miss or maybe because of the panel ?

ruby wigeon Mar 23, 2026, 4:01 PM

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Well, it's definitely a panel bug or feature. Arma doesn't rewrite your server.cfg.

urban nymph Mar 23, 2026, 4:40 PM

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the dedicated server even locks your server.cfg handle when running

urban nymph Mar 23, 2026, 4:41 PM

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tardy wren Hey i having some issue, for some reason I cannot add more ip on my headlessclie...

is the server running while you're trying to edit it?

tardy wren Mar 23, 2026, 4:51 PM

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urban nymph is the server running while you're trying to edit it?

no, the server stop when edit the cfg

urban nymph Mar 23, 2026, 4:51 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

tardy wren Mar 23, 2026, 4:52 PM

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ruby wigeon Well, it's definitely a panel bug or feature. Arma doesn't rewrite your server.c...

the thing is only the headlessclients setting that revert back after edit, everything I edit in .cfg is saved but no the hc setting

urban nymph Mar 23, 2026, 4:53 PM

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yeah, try contacting their support or something

ruby wigeon Mar 23, 2026, 4:55 PM

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If it's a third-party server provider then they may be doing it intentionally. There may be good reasons to block remote HCs.

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Or bad reasons, like they want to charge you for them :P

tardy wren Mar 23, 2026, 5:14 PM

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ruby wigeon Or bad reasons, like they want to charge you for them :P

I wish this is the cause of the problem. buuuut i self hosted the server and install the panel my self so either the egg or human error xD

urban nymph Mar 23, 2026, 5:23 PM

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you can still try getting support from the pane folks

tardy wren Mar 23, 2026, 5:29 PM

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urban nymph you can still try getting support from the pane folks

yep thank for the suggestion, i already try ask the pelican folks if they do something about the config. I hope there will be something to help solve the problem

fair harbor Mar 23, 2026, 6:09 PM

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tardy wren yep thank for the suggestion, i already try ask the pelican folks if they do som...

Its part of the base pelican egg a3 config, and hardcoded to localhost only
should be "fixed" by removing that from the replace here

tardy wren Mar 23, 2026, 8:19 PM

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fair harbor Its part of the base pelican egg a3 config, and hardcoded to localhost only shou...

wow yap, i think the problem is fixed, thanks alot for the help

tidal pawn Feb 16, 2016, 1:18 PM

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This probably means that there is a SQF thread from initFunctions.sqf forever in waitUntil lock. Someone with access to a HC should check diag_activeSQFthingies

void saffron Feb 16, 2016, 3:10 PM

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^ diag_activeSQFScripts

minor sleet Feb 18, 2016, 6:43 PM

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does anyone else have the problem that missions created with 3den don't work with hc?

void saffron Feb 19, 2016, 1:42 PM

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nope mine works.

foggy fable Feb 19, 2016, 2:20 PM

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@minor sleet Yes we have! Missions made with 2D Editor work fine, while with 3Den Missions the HC just stays in a state of inifinite loading. Did you find a solution to your problem?

minor sleet Feb 19, 2016, 2:21 PM

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nope, just wanted to confirm that we are not the only one having that problem

foggy fable Feb 19, 2016, 2:22 PM

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Was your mission a completly new mission or an imported 2D one? Also: Am I right to assume that you are with TTT?

minor sleet Feb 19, 2016, 3:02 PM

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i think it was a new mission, though i don't know completely - one of our mission makers reported it to me. and yes, i'm with TTT

foggy fable Feb 19, 2016, 3:05 PM

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Check. For us, it was an imported mission and we acutally have no clue where this is coming from. We will further investigate the issue and hopefully be able to pinpoint it.

urban juniper Feb 19, 2016, 5:57 PM

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Same issue here. HC wont load into the mission with ported missions form the 2D editor. I did not test "native" Eden missions.

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Since i didnt spot this HC channel before ill ask the question I asked in server_linux again: Does anyone got a HC running with verifySignatures=2 on Linux? Mine used to work but now after the update the client fails to join with "bunch of pbos - ... are not signed by a key accepted by this server. To play on this server, remove listed files or install additional accepted keys.
22:29:29 > Player headlessclient connected.

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I did a quick test. HC won't load with native Eden mission as well.

urban juniper Feb 20, 2016, 11:02 AM

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So did anyone get the HC working with Eden yet?

foggy fable Feb 20, 2016, 4:52 PM

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well we have encountered a very weird thing. If you use an older version of the mission (-> therefore not yet EDEN Compatible), the HC loads into the mission without any problems. If you convert the same mission to the EDEN format, the HC will not work properly anymore.

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We decided to just wait until the BI staff is back in office on monday. I assume they already saw these issues with the HC popping up in the forums as well as here on discord.

void saffron Feb 20, 2016, 7:26 PM

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aaactually nevermind, it just took a bit longer than usual to load it's profile, but it did join the server properly

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http://puu.sh/nf8Vs/8ca58fa8a5.png and http://puu.sh/nf92d/1f7dc126b7.png

foggy fable Feb 20, 2016, 8:32 PM

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Okay interesting. Now we have to figure out why your HC loads up the map and ours does not.

void saffron Feb 20, 2016, 8:33 PM

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want the mission i'm using ?

foggy fable Feb 20, 2016, 8:33 PM

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that could be helpful!

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can you give us the pbo so that we can test it?

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pbo + modstring 😉

void saffron Feb 20, 2016, 8:34 PM

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https://www.dropbox.com/s/k4dfxrotcy9m2ii/Co-ops.altis.pbo?dl=0 + cba 2.3.0 and up

foggy fable Feb 20, 2016, 8:34 PM

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thank you!

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wait, What is "up"?

void saffron Feb 20, 2016, 8:35 PM

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up ?

foggy fable Feb 20, 2016, 8:35 PM

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"cba 2.3.0 and up"

void saffron Feb 20, 2016, 8:35 PM

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well i'm running the cba RC for 2.3.0 I didn't bothered updating, which i'm doing now

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but any newer version should work.

foggy fable Feb 20, 2016, 8:35 PM

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ahhh

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that what is meant by up

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check

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well on my local setup the HC does not fnish loading the mission

void saffron Feb 20, 2016, 8:43 PM

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weird :/

foggy fable Feb 20, 2016, 8:44 PM

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how long did the HC take to load on your system?

void saffron Feb 20, 2016, 8:44 PM

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around 30 seconds to 1 minute

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but I was running 3 instances of the game 😄

foggy fable Feb 20, 2016, 8:44 PM

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okay I am way passed that

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well me too 😄

void saffron Feb 20, 2016, 9:06 PM

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just did some testings again with the latest version of cba, my HC connect properly

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http://puu.sh/nfflg/4a64d03292.png and http://puu.sh/nffq2/0f1ad4b306.png

void saffron Feb 20, 2016, 9:46 PM

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just checked my server RPT, the HC does connect but it doesn't run inits for some reason.

pale widget Feb 20, 2016, 9:52 PM

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I did diag_log "ping" in global exec and saw no results on HC. But it did post warning in a mission with script errors, very weird.

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So it seems to partialy load....

void saffron Feb 20, 2016, 9:52 PM

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I diag_log the profilename of each connected client in init.sqf

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HC doesn't appear :/

scenic dove Feb 20, 2016, 11:03 PM

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that with vanilla?

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@void saffron

void saffron Feb 20, 2016, 11:03 PM

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nah, cba

scenic dove Feb 20, 2016, 11:15 PM

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tried with vanilla?

void saffron Feb 20, 2016, 11:15 PM

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will try soonTM

scenic dove Feb 20, 2016, 11:16 PM

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cool

brittle wasp Feb 21, 2016, 7:42 AM

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Our HCs also aren't loading missions (or successfully running diag_log "ping"). Getting this as the last thing in their logs (but they don't crash or anything): http://pastebin.com/QmyjCVbM .Can't test with vanilla at the moment.

void saffron Feb 21, 2016, 5:59 PM

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my latest RPT from the HC https://www.dropbox.com/s/ryw459ykftdvcmx/arma3_2016-02-21_18-39-40.rpt?dl=0

pale widget Feb 21, 2016, 8:27 PM

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alganth - I notice your using arma3.exe -client, is there any difference compared when using arma3server.exe -client`?

void saffron Feb 21, 2016, 8:28 PM

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nope same

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just launch arma3.exe as console

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hey it seems that I somehow got it to work !?! uploading files

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http://puu.sh/ngqFw/c7a90b1adb.png and http://puu.sh/ngqHv/05fc09a084.png and RPTS: server: http://puu.sh/ngqPd/4454c115d3.rpt HC: http://puu.sh/ngqRN/b5dc5a6e7e.rpt Client: http://puu.sh/ngqVf/9c38e3d77d.rpt

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mission inbound

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https://www.dropbox.com/s/fqqs9avbs10s0bz/hcTest.VR.pbo?dl=0

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OOOOH

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IT USES THE WRONG FUCKING PROFILES

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It does create the profile it's supposed to use but never uses it.

scenic dove Feb 21, 2016, 8:42 PM

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interesting

void saffron Feb 21, 2016, 8:46 PM

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so I redid some checks, still doesn't receive remote data.

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forcing the profile, did made it use the right one.

scenic dove Feb 21, 2016, 9:05 PM

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meaning using -profile=<profile name> made it work?

void saffron Feb 21, 2016, 9:05 PM

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doesn't fully load tho.

scenic dove Feb 21, 2016, 9:05 PM

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bah

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any forum topic created about it yet?

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or anything at all done to make BI aware

void saffron Feb 21, 2016, 9:08 PM

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dwarden and the minions are always around, they're pretty aware I think

scenic dove Feb 21, 2016, 9:09 PM

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I hope 😃

heavy tiger Feb 21, 2016, 10:03 PM

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just tested my Linux HC yesterday.. worked fine with ALiVE :X didnt change anything from earlier arma versions

void saffron Feb 21, 2016, 10:03 PM

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running 1.56 or the linux branch ?

heavy tiger Feb 21, 2016, 10:03 PM

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1.56 linux dedicated server

brittle wasp Feb 22, 2016, 1:46 AM

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Ours ended up running after just reloading the mission (Windows, 1.56), and it looks like it was a different error.

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Maybe it's something to do with this in your log: 18:40:11 Warning Message: Problem occurred when saving profile data. The file may be set to read-only or can be blocked by another instance of the game (e.g., dedicated server).

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Could be because you're not specifying the profile folder. These are the command lines we use for the server + 2 HCs (same Windows server): http://pastebin.com/0u9gQze5

scenic dove Feb 22, 2016, 2:58 AM

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could be, but it's still a bug, because pre-1.56 headless client created a profile folder of the game logic name and used that

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I am also fairly sure -headlessclient doesn't do anything

void saffron Feb 22, 2016, 8:14 AM

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it's indeed useless :/

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it's either -hostor -client

wild kestrel Feb 23, 2016, 12:56 AM

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any official statement on this issue?

sturdy mica Feb 23, 2016, 4:31 PM

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Well this is really frustrating

wild kestrel Feb 24, 2016, 12:14 AM

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totally agree

zealous panther Feb 24, 2016, 12:26 AM

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i found i why this dont work 😄

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i think i will try to fix it soon

trim socket Feb 24, 2016, 1:38 AM

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i will need some more clear reports on what's newly wrong with HC (we definitely working on several linux-server/hc bugs now)

foggy fable Feb 24, 2016, 7:06 AM

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Well our HC is connecting without any issues but will then be stuck on loading the mission (infinite sandclock). Pre-Eden mission pbo's do not present that issue.

void saffron Feb 24, 2016, 8:31 AM

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same issue here.

scenic dove Feb 24, 2016, 9:47 AM

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Same here

zealous panther Feb 24, 2016, 12:12 PM

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yes i think i found the issue but i am not 100% sure. and this is not a HC issue its a Virtuell object issue what mean spectator and Zeus units have the same issue.
in initFunction you have in line 557 you have a waitUntil !isNull cameraOn but if you use a Viruell Object cameraOn returns objNull everytime

wild kestrel Feb 24, 2016, 1:06 PM

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Confirm this is an issue in initFunctions.sqf

dawn crag Feb 25, 2016, 8:18 PM

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We had the issue with the HC not fully loading

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But only sometimes

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The other times HC connected just fine, but it appears it had no effect at all

normal frost Feb 26, 2016, 3:50 PM

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Any severe issues currently with HC running on Windows server?

indigo sand Feb 26, 2016, 4:37 PM

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If with eden missions, yes

normal frost Feb 26, 2016, 4:40 PM

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What kind of issues? @indigo sand

indigo sand Feb 26, 2016, 4:42 PM

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Read up

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^

normal frost Feb 26, 2016, 5:00 PM

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Ok, thanks 😃

trim socket Feb 26, 2016, 5:30 PM

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new 1.56.134739 performance builds in #perf_prof_branch !!!

normal frost Feb 26, 2016, 11:57 PM

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Does HC require Apex purchased to connect on server running Apex stuff?

scenic dove Feb 27, 2016, 12:01 AM

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considering you don't need Arma 3 bought on the Steam account you use to download it (using SteamCMD), I would say no

normal frost Feb 27, 2016, 12:52 AM

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@scenic dove Nice! Thanks for the info 😃

loud remnant Feb 28, 2016, 9:21 AM

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Anyone else having issues with units NOT being transferred to the HC, when using Werthless' script. Everything was working fine and dandy up until the Eden update. The HC connects fine, but for some reason units aren't being transferred to it any longer. When using the debug function of the script, it basically just says units waiting for HC response.

peak prawn Feb 28, 2016, 9:41 AM

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Headless client is acting a bit weird with the Eden update, I think

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I recall someone saying it works for missions made in the 2D editor, but not with the 3D

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https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/184485-werthles-headless-module/

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Werthles' says it's under repair, but the newest version should work with the 2D editor at least

loud remnant Feb 28, 2016, 9:51 AM

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Ah yeah, seem to recall something about the 2D/3D thing. Guess we'll have to play the waiting game a little longer then 😉 Or stick with making missions in the 2D editor. Hopefully he updates the scripted version as well, and not only the module version.

void saffron Feb 28, 2016, 1:04 PM

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it's 100% broken atm, as @zealous panther pointed out the inits are borked for HC and logics.

heavy tiger Feb 28, 2016, 1:39 PM

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to the conversation in #arma3_scripting my HC also works fine with ALiVE on a mission created pre 3DEN

astral lotus Feb 28, 2016, 1:41 PM

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yep I have a mission that works fine with 3 HCs in v1.56, but people who modified it since eden are reporting HC issues

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mission's here if anyone wants to run tests with it: https://github.com/GreuhZbug/greuh_liberation.Altis/releases

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vanilla compatible

astral lotus Feb 28, 2016, 3:29 PM

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if i stick to the old 2D editor to edit and export the mission, is it gonna bork the HCs ?

wintry summit Feb 28, 2016, 5:46 PM

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If someone saw BI working on this problem ?

gusty acorn Feb 29, 2016, 1:21 PM

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@trim socket HC doesnt work for me with eden (creating seagull (no person))*
same for you?

void saffron Feb 29, 2016, 2:11 PM

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It's BROKEN.

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Like, not working, at all.

trim socket Feb 29, 2016, 3:43 PM

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@gusty acorn there're such problems with EDEN, some fixed in DEV/internally some wip

foggy fable Feb 29, 2016, 4:19 PM

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are you planning on releasing a hotfix when the crucial issues are fixed or are we looking at a longer waiting period?

sturdy mica Feb 29, 2016, 4:43 PM

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@trim socket Was is already reported that mission download of hc is taking really long and while he is downloading no other can load the mission (download speed will be only a few kb/s)?

zealous panther Feb 29, 2016, 4:43 PM

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@sturdy mica the HC never done loading

sturdy mica Feb 29, 2016, 4:43 PM

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Of course he did.

zealous panther Feb 29, 2016, 4:44 PM

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he load the mission and load the preInit and than stop

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in 3Den missions

sturdy mica Feb 29, 2016, 4:44 PM

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I don't talk of eden. This is more general and is present since a long of time

zealous panther Feb 29, 2016, 4:45 PM

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ok

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i dont have any issue with HC mission loading

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the HC was the first client in the mission

sturdy mica Feb 29, 2016, 4:46 PM

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Well, how big is your mission?

zealous panther Feb 29, 2016, 4:47 PM

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1mb

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or better 1.026kb

void saffron Feb 29, 2016, 4:48 PM

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300KB for me, HC download nearly instantly.

sturdy mica Feb 29, 2016, 4:52 PM

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Mine is about 55 mb

void saffron Feb 29, 2016, 4:52 PM

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wat

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the fuck

sturdy mica Feb 29, 2016, 4:52 PM

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Skins...

void saffron Feb 29, 2016, 4:52 PM

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dude, make an addon.

sturdy mica Feb 29, 2016, 4:53 PM

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We have an addon. It's about 500 mb

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But we don't force to use it

void saffron Feb 29, 2016, 4:53 PM

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well drop those skins in there.

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because that mission is WAAAY too big.

sturdy mica Feb 29, 2016, 4:53 PM

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Not really

void saffron Feb 29, 2016, 4:54 PM

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anything above 2MB (PBO) is already big.

sturdy mica Feb 29, 2016, 4:55 PM

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And why should it be to big?

trim socket Feb 29, 2016, 5:00 PM

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update the HC directly, don't download from server ffs

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same goes about the mission sizes, what was built to be few kB isn't exactly optimal to be dozens or hundreds MB

vale magnet Mar 3, 2016, 7:51 PM

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so...HC fix or not fix in today's release?

scenic dove Mar 3, 2016, 8:01 PM

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apparently not

trim socket Mar 3, 2016, 8:38 PM

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some are, if it's not then it would be nice to have some details / repro-steps or similar (e.g. BIForum thread/post)

scenic dove Mar 3, 2016, 9:06 PM

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initFunctions.sqf line 557 .. gets stuck at the (!isNull cameraOn) check.

zealous panther Mar 3, 2016, 9:21 PM

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@scenic dove is there still the issue?

foggy fable Mar 3, 2016, 9:47 PM

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My HC works fine

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at least from my first tests

scenic dove Mar 3, 2016, 10:16 PM

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@zealous panther @urban juniper says so, I haven't tested myself yet

wanton cedar Mar 4, 2016, 4:15 PM

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HC should be working again, at least I've heard that from my guys. I haven't had a chance to hop on to test since the patch.

tidal pawn Mar 4, 2016, 8:22 PM

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["BIS_fnc_GUImessage","A3\functions_f\GUI\fn_GUImessage.sqf",true,205]
Why is there a GUI function running on a HC?

tidal pawn Mar 4, 2016, 8:40 PM

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this is another loop the HC are stuck on:

uinamespace setvariable ["BIS_fnc_guiMessage_status",nil];
_ctrlButtonOK ctrlseteventhandler ["buttonclick","uinamespace setvariable ['BIS_fnc_guiMessage_status',true]; true"];
_ctrlButtonCancel ctrlseteventhandler ["buttonclick","uinamespace setvariable ['BIS_fnc_guiMessage_status',false]; true"];
_display displayaddeventhandler ["unload","uinamespace setvariable ['BIS_fnc_guiMessage_status',false];"];
_ehKeyDown = _display displayaddeventhandler ["keydown","if ((_this select 1) == 1) then {uinamespace setvariable ['BIS_fnc_guiMessage_status',false]; true} else {false}"];



waituntil {!isnil {uinamespace getvariable "BIS_fnc_guiMessage_status"}};

Can't click buttons -> infinite loop

trim socket Mar 5, 2016, 8:48 AM

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@urban juniper @tidal pawn thanks we will look into those

tidal pawn Mar 5, 2016, 9:03 AM

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Yay!

trim socket Mar 5, 2016, 10:45 AM

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@tidal pawn @urban juniper i need repro missions , please provide together with exact reproduction steps

scenic dove Mar 5, 2016, 1:17 PM

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I just tested HC and it seems it works fine for us now

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doesn't mean they aren't stuck on the above mentioned scripts of course 😃

void saffron Mar 5, 2016, 2:18 PM

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Can confirm, my HC load properly since the hotfix.

tidal pawn Mar 6, 2016, 8:54 AM

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@trim socket
I don't think I can make a repro mission atm. I never got around to setting up a headless client myself.
This was debugged using this command as playable client in debug console:
{[[hasInterface, isServer, diag_activeSQFScripts] , { diag_log text str _this }] remoteExec ["BIS_fnc_Call"]} remoteExec ["BIS_fnc_Call"]
It should print all active SQF scripts in RPT file. The one that starts with false, false is the headless client (no interfacer and not the server)

Any mission with headless client and debug console enabled should do. Hope that helps.

urban juniper Mar 7, 2016, 12:40 PM

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@tidal pawn Hello,
thanks for the feedback.

As stated by @trim socket , the fastest way for us to find what exactly is the problem would be to provide us with a mission and some steps that we need to perform to be able to determine what the issue might be.

If you can, please try to create one or simply send me a mission that you already have finished. You can do so via Direct/Private Message either here or on the BI Forum.

In any case, thank you for the feedback and support 😃

boreal axle Mar 10, 2016, 4:06 PM

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[redacted]

void saffron Mar 12, 2016, 6:04 PM

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it's not an issue, it's normal behavior

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initPlayerLocal.sqf ```
//------------------------------ Headless Client
if !(isServer or hasInterface) then {
diag_log format ["%1", profileName];

if (profileName == "HCAOs") then {

    derp_HCAOsConnected = true;
    publicVariableServer "HCAOsConnected";
    diag_log format ["HCAOs connected"];
};

} else {
//-------------------------------- Player stuff
};

and initServer.sqf ```

//---------------------------------- EHs
addMissionEventHandler ["HandleDisconnect", {
    params ["_unit", "_ID", "_UID", "_name"];
    if (_name == "HCAOs") then {
        derp_HCAOsConnected = false;
    };
}];

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just replace HCAOs with whatever your HC is called

tidal pawn Mar 13, 2016, 7:31 AM

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HandleDisconnect doesn't work with BIS_fnc_addStackedEventHandler
It's for https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/addMissionEventHandler
See: https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/BIS_fnc_addStackedEventHandler

void saffron Mar 13, 2016, 3:19 PM

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from the wiki

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Triggered when player disconnects from the game. Similar to onPlayerDisconnected event but can be stacked and contains the unit occupied by player before disconnect. Must be added on the server and triggers only on the server.

tidal pawn Mar 13, 2016, 4:55 PM

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Yes, but what you used is:
["....", "HandleDisconnect", {...}, []] call BIS_fnc_addStackedEventHandler;
And HandleDisconnect works only with addMissionEventHandler, while
BIS_fnc_addStackedEventHandler uses onPlayerDisconnected

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So your code does nothing. at least the second half

void saffron Mar 13, 2016, 5:15 PM

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gee thanks for the info, the wiki could be clearer on which stack it goes to.

tidal pawn Mar 13, 2016, 5:20 PM

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It's pretty clear on this one:

BIS_fnc_addStackedEventHandler
BIS fnc addStackedEventHandler

Description:
    Stack an event handler. Possible event handlers are:

        "onEachFrame"
        "onPlayerConnected"
        "onPlayerDisconnected"
        "onMapSingleClick"
        "onPreloadStarted"
        "onPreloadFinished"

void saffron Mar 13, 2016, 5:21 PM

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I though that the page wasn't updated 😦

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(I also wasn't getting errors from that piece of code)

tidal pawn Mar 13, 2016, 5:22 PM

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I think they currently are implementing addMissionEventHandler variants for these I've heard

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I hope they won't break with these old commands. Could get rid of another trigger in CBA

sterile cove Apr 11, 2016, 3:52 PM

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Quick question for anyone watching this channel, when you run your HC, how many cores do you allocate to it vs the server itself?

late pendant Apr 11, 2016, 3:54 PM

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typically I give them 2 each

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have 8 cores on the box, so I give 4 to the server and 2 for each HC, though pretty sure ArmA only uses 2 cores anyway

sterile cove Apr 11, 2016, 3:56 PM

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guess I could lower the cores on my VM then

late pendant Apr 11, 2016, 3:56 PM

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dunno how people know but in a bat file you can use start arma3.exe "" /affinity F0 (or whatever Hex) to assign cores from 0 - 7 or combination thereof

sterile cove Apr 11, 2016, 3:56 PM

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it's a Windows feature

late pendant Apr 11, 2016, 3:57 PM

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well saves you have to set affinity manually every time you start the game

sterile cove Apr 11, 2016, 3:57 PM

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yeah

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Windows doesn't save what you set it to before, at least not anymore

late pendant Apr 11, 2016, 3:57 PM

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indeed, hence doing it in a bat file

sterile cove Apr 11, 2016, 3:57 PM

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I do use that command :P

late pendant Apr 11, 2016, 3:58 PM

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should be added to the Community wiki really, took me a lot of reading to figure it out

sterile cove Apr 11, 2016, 3:59 PM

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probably, it's a good thing to know

scenic dove Apr 12, 2016, 7:59 PM

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Windows does a pretty good job with affinity by default, we don't have anything manual set up for it

hazy imp Apr 13, 2016, 12:05 AM

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@scenic dove: That depends a lot on how high the utilzation rate is for the core/thread at the time the 2nd set of tasks comes up. Windows is set to fill up the first 2 "cores" to a certain point before it thinks it's busy enough to start getting the rest of the "cores" involved. Hyperthreading adds to the fun by finding open time slices the OS doesn't normally take advantage of.

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Firedaemon (not free) does a pretty nifty job of keeping Arma instances running and allowing startup scripts to pick "core" affinities. It's overkill for one server instance but it's great if you want to manage several

scenic dove Apr 13, 2016, 5:32 AM

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We didn't have any issues yet and run 2 servers and 3 HCs on the same machine with 4-core i7, however we are quite small and don't get that high usage

sterile cove Apr 13, 2016, 3:39 PM

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I wish there was a way to set affinity easily in TADST

void saffron Apr 13, 2016, 3:40 PM

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Simple, don't use TADST.

sterile cove Apr 13, 2016, 3:40 PM

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I've been using bats to launch the server for a while now

late pendant Apr 13, 2016, 3:54 PM

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I prefer monkies, they're less squeaky than bats

sterile cove Apr 13, 2016, 4:04 PM

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but they're not as cute

scenic dove Apr 13, 2016, 4:42 PM

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@sterile cove just set the servers up as Windows Services, one click launch/stop/restart

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through NSSM

late pendant Apr 13, 2016, 11:03 PM

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failed to find your scripts on gh @scenic dove, do you have a link?

scenic dove Apr 13, 2016, 11:04 PM

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I do https://github.com/Theseus-Aegis/tac-a3-core/tree/master/tools/server

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setup.bat is the the setup one

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it also automatically builds the -mod and -serverMod lines from directories

bitter radish Apr 15, 2016, 4:12 AM

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How many hc would you recommend for VPS 2.4ghz 4vcores 8gb ram?

heavy tiger Apr 15, 2016, 12:21 PM

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one

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plus server

bitter radish Apr 15, 2016, 1:30 PM

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would any additional HC on localy connected machine help it out? (using round-robind load balancing script for HC)

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http://www.reddit.com/r/armadev/comments/2wm2xs/roundrobin_load_balancing_of_ai_across_up_to/

scenic dove Apr 16, 2016, 4:16 PM

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I have a better HC balancing mod

urban juniper Apr 16, 2016, 4:57 PM

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Currently using the latest performance build for linux. Headless client connects, but doesn't take its slot. The slots is also greyed out

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Am I doing something wrong? I thought that hc was fixed in these builds?

scenic dove Apr 16, 2016, 5:05 PM

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did you make it playable?

urban juniper Apr 16, 2016, 5:05 PM

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yes

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https://gyazo.com/5ea1d8cb41efe7c02fe7d18ab378b980

bitter radish Apr 18, 2016, 12:20 PM

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Did you give it a variable name?

trim socket Apr 22, 2016, 12:17 PM

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new 1.58.135689 performance binaries in #perf_prof_branch channel !

zenith timber Apr 23, 2016, 7:34 PM

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Anyone know why a headless client would just stick before the connection screen?

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does it need battleyeLicense=1; ?

trim socket Apr 24, 2016, 5:28 AM

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@zenith timber yes it does if you use BE on server

zenith timber Apr 24, 2016, 10:10 AM

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ok, tried it and it didn't help

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My headless client always sticks here

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Attempt to override final function - slidertime_script
12:13:05 [0,109.359,0,"XEH: PreStart started."]
12:13:05 [0,109.398,0,"XEH: PreStart finished."]
12:13:07 [XEH]: Motorcycle does not support Extended Eventhandlers! Addon: @cup_terrains_core
12:13:08 Web address 'http://radio.task-force.ru/feed/index.php?language=english/' won't be open. Current restrictions do not allow it.
12:13:08 Warning Message: Picture cup_terrains_logo_mod.paa not found
12:13:08 Warning Message: Picture cup_terrains_logo_mod.paa not found

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ok, looks like my server isn't listening to 127.0.0.1

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cool

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Ok, so got my HC connecting

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now it's not joining it's slot

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ok fixed that now

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Now I'm getting a signiture check issue

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it keeps timing out

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i'll have to come back to it

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lemmie know if there is a known fix for signiture time outs

trim socket Apr 25, 2016, 3:22 AM

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@zenith timber i will work with programmers on solution to disable signature checks for HC defined in server.cfg alltogether

zenith timber Apr 25, 2016, 7:25 AM

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thanks @trim socket

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i'm not sure if disabling them is the best idea, what if the HC and server have mismatched mods? maybe making the signiture checks work on HC would be better?

trim socket Apr 26, 2016, 2:35 PM

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new performance binaries in #perf_prof_branch

icy wedge Apr 26, 2016, 8:34 PM

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I have a single dedicated sever, running windows 2012, and I host two arma 3 servers on it, without another machine, can I make use of HC, and still list my server via internet?

sterile cove Apr 26, 2016, 9:43 PM

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@icy wedge yes if you have the processing power for it

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Use 127.0.0.1 for the HC address

trim socket Apr 27, 2016, 3:19 PM

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Release Candidate for an upcoming 1.58 hotfix is now available see #dev_rc_branch for details

trim socket Apr 28, 2016, 1:54 PM

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new performance binaries v3 , newer than 1.58.hotfix in #perf_prof_branch

zenith timber Apr 28, 2016, 4:43 PM

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@trim socket any news on headless client checks?

trim socket Apr 28, 2016, 6:57 PM

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atm. no, sorry definitely not this week

copper magnet Apr 29, 2016, 3:58 AM

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is their any benefit from having multiple headless clients in alive?

copper magnet May 1, 2016, 11:25 PM

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after a couple hours of running alive with headless client i end up getting really shitty frames and tonns of rubber banding. What do?

urban stream May 2, 2016, 4:00 PM

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@copper magnet - are you testing with just vanilla factions and maps (ie: BLU_F and Altis)? If not try that first in your HC tests to rule out any mod issues

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might get more help posting here as well:

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http://alivemod.com/forum/

copper magnet May 2, 2016, 4:01 PM

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@urban stream just using RHS figure if it was caused by that there would be some documentation, will give it a go.

urban stream May 2, 2016, 4:02 PM

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yeah i've seen some crazy stuff testing with ALiVE... try with just CBA_A3 and ALiVE loaded then go from there

copper magnet May 2, 2016, 4:02 PM

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Thanks

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will try it

urban stream May 2, 2016, 4:02 PM

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also no problems running HC on same machine (from other channel)

copper magnet May 2, 2016, 4:02 PM

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yeah thanks i saw it

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that other guy is an idiot

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Don't know what he was on about lol

static reef May 9, 2016, 5:23 PM

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Hey guys I'm having issues with my headless client actually going in game. They are connected to the server and in there slots however they still have the lobby symbol in the players tab in game? I know there has been some issue's recently with headless client and i am wondering if this has anything to do with it?

hazy imp May 9, 2016, 10:22 PM

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@static reef: Are you sure your script spawns the AI properly?
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_Headless_Client#Spawning_the_AI

static reef May 9, 2016, 10:34 PM

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Im using the Werthles Headless script and should be working fine however i dont believe that to be the issue as it as if they dont go into game just sitting in the lobby in the headless client slots.

urban juniper May 10, 2016, 8:42 AM

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@FakeMatty check the profile names of the hc's against the virtual entities. That's is the most usual cause of trouble in the lobby.

static reef May 10, 2016, 1:22 PM

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@urban juniper by this do you mean they have to be the same ?

urban juniper May 10, 2016, 1:26 PM

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yes the profile name and the object name of the hc in the mission need to be the same

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and it could be case sensitive

safe rose May 10, 2016, 1:40 PM

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no they don't

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unless it's some linux shenanigans again

urban juniper May 10, 2016, 1:43 PM

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ofc its linux what else?

trim socket May 10, 2016, 3:18 PM

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those who got HC issues with the too many files open (sig timeout etc), please PM me, got something to discuss/test

static reef May 10, 2016, 3:51 PM

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It is of course Linux shenanigans, I will test this later tonight when I am home. Thanks for the help Hartzie

urban juniper May 10, 2016, 4:36 PM

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always a pleasure

static reef May 10, 2016, 5:12 PM

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Okay so I have made sure that the headless Clients are named the same as the in game entity's and still the issue persists . Once the headless clients are in the server and I launch the mission no one else can connect and if you disconnect and re-join you simply are stuck joining and never reach the lobby screen. I don't know if this issue help you diagnose the issue as this is puzzling me.

urban juniper May 10, 2016, 6:33 PM

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Puh this sounds weird try and differentiate the cause by eliminating different possibilities. Try with and without mods hc simple mission etc

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We found the issue. With signature checks on the hc never loads the mission. It takes its slot, but never loads in. It doesn't get kicked either. However turning them off is not a solution for us. It is our only way to make sure that everyone is using the same mod versions.

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Oh yeah that never realley worked

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@trim socket Known issue? Is it going to be fixed eventually?

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The easiest solution would of course be to disable signature checking for hc entirely

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Would also be great to be able to disable BEFilters on HC aswell.
Sometimes you want your HC to be able to run code, but prevent clients from running it via BEFilters.

tame glen May 10, 2016, 7:13 PM

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That would be an awesome featue.
@urban juniper Are you running your HC using the same mod directory as your server?

urban juniper May 10, 2016, 7:13 PM

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yes we are

trim socket May 10, 2016, 7:22 PM

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@urban juniper while it seems easy, it's not hence it will take some time before done

urban juniper May 10, 2016, 7:23 PM

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Alright, thank you for the answer!

trim socket May 10, 2016, 7:34 PM

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@urban juniper i'm told BEfilters are already skipped for HC

urban juniper May 10, 2016, 7:35 PM

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Must have missed that update, i check later 😛

trim socket May 10, 2016, 8:06 PM

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ye, keep me posted if that's false 😉

trim socket May 13, 2016, 3:11 PM

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new performance binary 1.58.136046 in #perf_prof_branch

proven lake May 14, 2016, 1:26 PM

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Dose anyone use @vcom_driving in the HC!?

alpine sonnet May 15, 2016, 1:24 PM

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@proven lake, I do not. Is it worthwhile??

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Also, does anyone know how to fix the headless clients getting kicked from Linux servers that use verify signatures??

proven lake May 18, 2016, 9:47 AM

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@alpine sonnet Yeap! It's very good! The convoys work even better! No crashes! But i'm having problems with the bikey siganture for the headless client, it gets kicked because the bikey dosen't match, and the client and the server run from the same files,... strange!

alpine sonnet May 18, 2016, 12:47 PM

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@proven lake it isn't from signatures not matching. The headless clients on my Linux server get kicked for signatures even though they aren't even running mods.

proven lake May 18, 2016, 12:50 PM

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@alpine sonnet Do you have an "Alowed File Patching" option in Linux!? If You have you should enable it on you Server!

alpine sonnet May 18, 2016, 12:57 PM

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I don't know. I'll have to google it. Dwarden had me change some file limits and encouraged me to install the new performance binary, but the file limits didn't fix anything and I'm waiting till the end of the month to update the server. @proven lake

trim socket May 18, 2016, 5:24 PM

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@alpine sonnet in server.cfg change allowedFilePatching = 0; to allowedFilePatching = 1; as in https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/server.cfg

server.cfg

alpine sonnet May 18, 2016, 5:26 PM

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@trim socket, I'll sure try that! Thanks for all the help with this! I still haven't tried the performance binary, I can wait two weeks till the next update drops.

trim socket May 19, 2016, 4:30 PM

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new performance binary 1.58.136191 in #perf_prof_branch !

trim socket May 20, 2016, 3:55 PM

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new performance binary 1.58.136234 in #perf_prof_branch !

slate herald May 21, 2016, 7:11 PM

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Hello all, I have a question, is there a way to make A2MC working on Eden editor? Or which program do you use to convert sqm file into sqf for AI spawning? Thanks!

torn crest May 27, 2016, 8:57 PM

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So currently I can't connect the HC to my server with any kind of mod enabled at all. It's not showing me any errors in the console aside from the headlessclient disconnecting. I've tried both standard and perf binaries as Server and Client, and it connects successfully without any mods at all enabled in the command line shortcut.

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I am on Win2012R2

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I was hoping to use CBA_A3, ASR_AI and Vcom_Driving.

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My shortcut: E:\arma3\arma3server.exe -client -connect=127.0.0.1 -profile=E:\arma3\a3master\HC -mod="@CBA_A3"

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With the -mod parameter removed it works great.

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And the server has the same thing enabled of course.

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allowfilepatching changed to 1 did not fix this

torn crest May 27, 2016, 9:19 PM

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I turned off verifysignatures and get errors when connecting to the server with CBA, so it must be something else currently

tame glen May 27, 2016, 9:21 PM

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That was going to be my suggestion. Is the headless client running from the same directory as the server? And do you have the corresponding server.cfg entries for headless client?

torn crest May 27, 2016, 9:21 PM

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I do have the correspending config files, and the HC is running from the same directory yes

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Does it need its own?

tame glen May 27, 2016, 9:22 PM

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No that should be fine, I was just going to suggest mismatched addon versions if you said they were separate

torn crest May 27, 2016, 9:22 PM

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thats currently what im trying now, going to copy them over and make sure they are the same

tame glen May 27, 2016, 9:23 PM

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What errors did you get when you turned off verifySignatures?

torn crest May 27, 2016, 9:23 PM

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That the pbo's were not signed by a valid key on the server

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Regardless of whether that was on

tame glen May 27, 2016, 9:24 PM

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Were you able to connect?

torn crest May 27, 2016, 9:24 PM

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No

tame glen May 27, 2016, 9:24 PM

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Have you put the CBA bikey in the keys folder?

torn crest May 27, 2016, 9:24 PM

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Yes

tame glen May 27, 2016, 9:24 PM

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On the server

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Did it say why you were not able to connect?

torn crest May 27, 2016, 9:25 PM

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No, I still receive the PBO signing error. Still working on getting the same version on both to make sure.

tame glen May 27, 2016, 9:26 PM

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Make sure the bikey in the keys folder of the server has the same version number as the bisign in your CBA directory and the server's CBA directory

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For instance cba_2.3.1.160220.bikey wouldn't work with cba_2.3.1.160219.bisign

torn crest May 27, 2016, 9:29 PM

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I reinstalled it on my client and now it works here

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Lets try the HC

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And it works!

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D'oh

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Sorry, I should've tried that earlier. Thank you for time.

tame glen May 27, 2016, 9:31 PM

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No problem, glad it worked out 👍

torn crest May 27, 2016, 9:36 PM

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Ah it's wondermous, thank you!

kind crystal Jun 1, 2016, 3:00 PM

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Anyone had issues with headless client as of late?

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Currently not spawning in units after latest patch

kind crystal Jun 2, 2016, 11:47 AM

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Ran into an issue with our headless clients where they are slotted correctly but soon as mission starts they idle / unready and no communications is happening between server and HC, Werthle debug is simply saying it's Awaiting HC Response

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Worked on Sunday, didn't work on Tuesday

trim socket Jun 2, 2016, 12:13 PM

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new performance binaries (1.60.136493) in #perf_prof_branch

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@kind crystal please try the new perf build

kind crystal Jun 2, 2016, 12:13 PM

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Will give that a go

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Wipped together a quick HC test mission, http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=695799753 First screenshot shows the hc1 being correctly slotted, load the mission and 10 seconds later http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=695799659, slightly stressed about this seeing as our international members are flying in for the yearly lan in about a week

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So far done a clean install, redone the profiles and now tried the latest performance binary

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And all of our missions is currently based around headless clients

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Only difference between Sunday and Tuesday is forced difficulty on all the profiles and 1.60

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Ruled out the forced difficulty changes by using our test server which had not undergone the forced difficulty changes

trim socket Jun 2, 2016, 6:43 PM

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new performance binaries (1.60.136515) in #perf_prof_branch

urban crypt Jun 3, 2016, 6:45 AM

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if the headless client during a mission still has the hour glass icon next to his name, it's not properly slotted in and doesn't work as intended?

kind crystal Jun 3, 2016, 10:06 AM

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In short the HC would slot correctly in lobby then when mission loaded they would unslot, had two test missions one that spawned units on HC after 10 seconds and one that spawned units on HC upon load, if the spawn delay was 10 seconds no units would load as the HC unslotted itself in that time.

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The other mission with no spawn delay it would spawn the units then transfer to server

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And the HC would unslot itself, anyhow we did end up resolving the issue in the end.

urban crypt Jun 3, 2016, 10:37 AM

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k. what i wrote is happening on my server

kind crystal Jun 3, 2016, 10:46 AM

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Run server exe as admin, under serverconfig we let BE update by turning it on as well as battleyeLicense = 1; after a few tests it worked, no idea why

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After our clean install the server exe lost it's run as admin property, rookie mistake but for us the problem was two fold

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Admin and something relating to BE

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And just to clarify it worked before latest patch?

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If so the issue sounds like the one we were having

urban crypt Jun 3, 2016, 2:36 PM

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Thanks for the info. We don't use/need BE, though. Guess I'll try it on a clean unmodded server/mission

trim socket Jun 3, 2016, 4:22 PM

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new performance binaries (1.60.136560) in #perf_prof_branch

urban juniper Jun 3, 2016, 4:26 PM

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can someone help me about HC ?
not connection to the server on server machine (same machine)
but connection on my own pc.
any idea 😄

fallow hamlet Jun 3, 2016, 4:27 PM

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so first... your mission has support for HC?

urban juniper Jun 3, 2016, 4:27 PM

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yeah

fallow hamlet Jun 3, 2016, 4:27 PM

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second, you setup server.cfg properly for HC to be allowed?

urban juniper Jun 3, 2016, 4:27 PM

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If not support HC doesnt connect on my own pc

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yes everything i did

fallow hamlet Jun 3, 2016, 4:27 PM

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HC and server are on the same remote machine?

urban juniper Jun 3, 2016, 4:28 PM

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I would like to make this

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I put 127.xxxx IP on server.cfg

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and -client connect=127xxxx

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headlessClients[]={"127.0.0.1"};
localClient[]={"127.0.0.1"};

fallow hamlet Jun 3, 2016, 4:30 PM

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ok I see were in same page

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is HC starting?

urban juniper Jun 3, 2016, 4:31 PM

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-client -connect=127.0.0.1 -port=2302 -password=xxxx -name=HC -profiles=HC -mod=@extDB2;@life_hc;

fallow hamlet Jun 3, 2016, 4:32 PM

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arma3server.exe -client -connect=127.0.0.1 -port=2302 -password=xxxx -name=HC -profiles=HC -mod=@extDB2;@life_hc;

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right?

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are you using same exe to run server and HC?

urban juniper Jun 3, 2016, 4:32 PM

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yes

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tried

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arma3server.exe

fallow hamlet Jun 3, 2016, 4:33 PM

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that might be the problem...is HC starting at all?

urban juniper Jun 3, 2016, 4:33 PM

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and arma3.exe

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Just wrote on console

fallow hamlet Jun 3, 2016, 4:33 PM

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wrote what?

urban juniper Jun 3, 2016, 4:35 PM

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dedicated client created.

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and in rpt :
17:02:38 Post process effect creation failed
17:02:38 Invalid post effect handle.
17:02:38 Invalid post effect handle.
17:02:38 Invalid post effect handle.
17:02:38 Invalid post effect handle.
17:02:38 Invalid post effect handle.

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just this all.

fallow hamlet Jun 3, 2016, 4:35 PM

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PP effect?

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does it say in console its connecting to your server and all that?

urban juniper Jun 3, 2016, 4:36 PM

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nope..

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in rpt 😄 post process effect*

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HC rpt

fallow hamlet Jun 3, 2016, 4:36 PM

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you have some script that tries to spawn PP effect on headless client which has no interface that will fail

urban juniper Jun 3, 2016, 4:36 PM

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in console only : dedicated client created.

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am I need to close them?

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/ remove*

fallow hamlet Jun 3, 2016, 4:37 PM

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first.. run server without mods and try to run HC w/o mods to and see if it connects....then once you got it all set work on mods..

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you need to do something like if (isServer && hasInterface) then{something};

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to that script

urban juniper Jun 3, 2016, 4:39 PM

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12:11:06 Post process effect creation failed
12:11:06 Invalid post effect handle.
12:11:06 Invalid post effect handle.
12:11:06 Invalid post effect handle.
12:11:06 Invalid post effect handle.
12:11:06 Invalid post effect handle.
12:11:10 Post process effect creation failed
12:11:10 Invalid post effect handle.
12:11:10 Invalid post effect handle.
12:11:10 Invalid post effect handle.
12:11:10 Invalid post effect handle.
12:11:10 Invalid post effect handle.
12:11:44 Creation of 3:27 ignored, state ROLE ASSIGNED
12:11:44 Creation of 2:2739 ignored, state ROLE ASSIGNED
12:11:44 Creation of 2:2740 ignored, state ROLE ASSIGNED
12:11:44 Creation of 2:2741 ignored, state ROLE ASSIGNED
12:11:44 Creation of 2:2742 ignored, state ROLE ASSIGNED
12:11:44 Creation of 2:2743 ignored, state ROLE ASSIGNED

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there is on my own pc how to connect to the dedicated.

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but on dedicated doesnt connect/

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thats basicly without mod

fallow hamlet Jun 3, 2016, 4:40 PM

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only problem might be running from same folder

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you must set multiple server instances I guess

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theres a guide for that

urban juniper Jun 3, 2016, 4:41 PM

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I installed Arma 3 on Dedicated * for HC with different account but again noting *

fallow hamlet Jun 3, 2016, 4:41 PM

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http://www.tacticalgamer.com/threads/192601-Headless-Client-Made-Easy

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start there

urban juniper Jun 3, 2016, 4:41 PM

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Not Arma 3 Server* just clientside

fallow hamlet Jun 3, 2016, 4:42 PM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_Headless_Client

urban juniper Jun 3, 2016, 4:42 PM

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I know how to make

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Thats works Great! But on the same machine have problem 😦

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is some ports are blocking ? or other something* 😐

fallow hamlet Jun 3, 2016, 4:44 PM

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Headless Client for ARMA 3 requires a valid active Steam account logged in to function

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A Headless Client is simply Arma3.exe run from the command line with parameters, for example:
arma3.exe -connect=localhost -port=2444 -client -nosound -password=some_server_password -name=HC -profile=HC -mod=@CBA_A3;@blah;@blah;@blah

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_Dedicated_Server

urban juniper Jun 3, 2016, 4:46 PM

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I tried that all 😄

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am I need to open 2444 port?

fallow hamlet Jun 3, 2016, 4:46 PM

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if its on same machine no I dont think so

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well out of ideas..fix that PP script and try again

urban juniper Jun 3, 2016, 4:47 PM

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ok i will try it :>

fallow hamlet Jun 3, 2016, 4:48 PM

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if it doesnt work best thing is to make simple HC mission and start from scratch, check everything and then work on mods and complex missions

urban juniper Jun 3, 2016, 4:48 PM

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ppEffectCreate on flashbang script* maybe its doing that 😐

fallow hamlet Jun 3, 2016, 4:48 PM

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well yeah it cant run on HC

urban juniper Jun 3, 2016, 4:49 PM

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well i will try them now

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thnx :}

fallow hamlet Jun 3, 2016, 4:51 PM

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  execVM "flashbang.sqf";
};``` 
something like that should be wrapped around the script so it runs only on client with interface and server

urban juniper Jun 3, 2016, 4:53 PM

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if (!hasInterface && !isServer) exitWith {
[] call compile PreprocessFileLineNumbers "\life_hc\initHC.sqf";
execVM "flashbang.sqf";
execVM "smoke.sqf";
}; //This is a headless client.

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isnt?

fallow hamlet Jun 3, 2016, 4:55 PM

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that will execute those scripts on HC if that is what you want

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!hasInterface and !isServer is negation where ! means not

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    [] call compile PreprocessFileLineNumbers "\life_hc\initHC.sqf";
}else{
other_scripts_to_execute_on_nonHC_entities
};```

urban juniper Jun 3, 2016, 5:01 PM

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yes I saw it :]

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else {
if isServer then {
[] call life_fnc_flashbang

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@fallow hamlet Arma 3 Client dont connect also on DS 😄

fallow hamlet Jun 3, 2016, 6:34 PM

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lol faild server

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well check server setup then, I was assuming you got that all set

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nonono cant do this this else{ if isServer then{}; cant put if there

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syntax is if (condition) then {something} else {otherthing};

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like if (its raining) then {its wet} esle {its sunny};

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for yout scrips the best would be
if (hasInterface && isServer) then { [] call life_fnc_flashbang.sqf;} else { [] call compile preprocessfilelinenumbers "\life_hc\inithc.sqf";};

urban juniper Jun 3, 2016, 6:49 PM

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I disabled all PPeffects but still doesnt connect 😐

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Thats %90 not on this 😄

ripe helm Jun 3, 2016, 6:49 PM

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    [] call compile PreprocessFileLineNumbers "\life_hc\initHC.sqf";
}; //This is a headless client.```

Will as it says, exit after initializing the HC

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So no need to wrap anything else with hasInterface

urban juniper Jun 3, 2016, 6:50 PM

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No bro; nobdy doesnt understand me ! take me god ! 😄

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I can connect HC on my COMPUTER ***
I can not connect to HCC on my SERVER DEDICATED* :S

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there was a problem 😄

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thats not connect to any servers.

fallow hamlet Jun 3, 2016, 6:51 PM

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can you enter your server and play?

urban juniper Jun 3, 2016, 6:51 PM

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yes

fallow hamlet Jun 3, 2016, 6:52 PM

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@fallow hamlet Arma 3 Client dont connect also on DS 😄(edited)

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?

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I think we have language barrier problems here

urban juniper Jun 3, 2016, 6:54 PM

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I thought told you same like that? Not connect on Dedicated Server [DS] (mean : same machine) Where running server bla bl :>

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sorry if i told ya wrong something*

fallow hamlet Jun 3, 2016, 6:55 PM

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is this your first time doing this?

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if so start with simple HC mission read the guide for setting all up and take it slow

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I cant really help you like this

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can you post server and HC rpt logs?

urban juniper Jun 3, 2016, 6:57 PM

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wait I will make on test server*

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:>

fallow hamlet Jun 3, 2016, 6:57 PM

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just dont post sensitive data..

ripe helm Jun 3, 2016, 6:57 PM

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He is running the Headless Client from Altis Life

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Which hasn't been designed to run without AL in any sense of the manner

urban juniper Jun 3, 2016, 6:58 PM

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yeah it is.

ripe helm Jun 3, 2016, 6:58 PM

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But like I said to you on Gitter I think

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If you can connect using your own computer, as a headless client to your server

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But can't connect as a HC using your server itself

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Then its a setup issue

fallow hamlet Jun 3, 2016, 6:59 PM

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make sure server is actually reading your config files

urban juniper Jun 3, 2016, 6:59 PM

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all works fine.

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Would wnt you make meeting on teamviwer haha 😄

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@ripe helm you want?

ripe helm Jun 3, 2016, 7:05 PM

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sure

shadow kraken Jun 3, 2016, 7:15 PM

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Teamview was hacked

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https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/4m7ay6/teamviewer_has_been_hacked_they_are_denying/

TeamViewer has been hacked. They are denying everything and poin...

TeamViewer has yet to leave a comment ~~on the issue~~ that's not in complete denial of the problem. **Update: /u/TeamViewerOfficial has...

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better disable if you dont want to loose moneys and passwords @urban juniper

urban juniper Jun 3, 2016, 7:28 PM

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hihi 😃

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@shadow kraken what did u drink

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that need to be via Remote-Control?

fallow hamlet Jun 4, 2016, 2:00 PM

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one word - radmin

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TV is better though and free. Got it running on a server and my home PC, hadnt got hacked.

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Will be shutting it down for a while on server though

trim socket Jun 8, 2016, 9:04 PM

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new performance binaries (1.60.136638) in #perf_prof_branch

brittle wasp Jul 4, 2016, 11:06 AM

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Can anyone explain the issue where headless clients appear to load in correctly when you're at the map screen, but then when in game it just shows an hourglass next to their name (they seem to partly disconnect or leave their slot)? I saw @urban crypt asking about it above but haven't seen a working solution. Tried updating battleye and running as admin.

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They trigger the 'missioneventhandler' HandleDisconnect when I click 'continue' on the map screen

tame glen Jul 4, 2016, 12:36 PM

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Do you definitely have the right IPs in he corresponding entries in the server.cfg?

nimble birch Jul 4, 2016, 5:04 PM

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What is the headless client actually for?

obsidian raven Jul 4, 2016, 6:31 PM

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For example: Offloading AI to another CPU/Machine/Core

urban crypt Jul 4, 2016, 6:40 PM

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@brittle wasp My error with the hc logic was, that i didn't make it "Playable".

brittle wasp Jul 5, 2016, 2:20 AM

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@tame glen: Yeah, localClient[] = {"127.0.0.1"}; headlessClients[]={"127.0.0.1"};
@urban crypt: Just double checked that, they are playable.
Thanks for suggestions. I should also mention that it used to work, we're just not sure how long ago it stopped working.

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https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/14576264/hcissue.png that's an image of what's happening.. nothing relevent in the logs unless we use something to log 'HandleDisconnect', in which case it shows it disconnecting when the mission starts.

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ODEN and THOR are the 2 HCs

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tried with performance v6 and vanilla exes

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is it normal for them to be seen as 'headlessClient' and 'headlessClient (2)' when they first connect?

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also tried with no mods at all, same thing.

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server log: http://pastebin.com/raw/rfHLtfvN

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HC log: http://pastebin.com/raw/qy5vKnF0

brittle wasp Jul 5, 2016, 4:25 AM

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tried disabling firewall, deleting profiles, renaming HCs, just using 1 HC..

brittle wasp Jul 5, 2016, 5:58 AM

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tried reinstalling the server from scratch and running with the config from werthless headless kit ( http://pastebin.com/raw/a9SmbupP )

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using simple .bat files startserver.bat: arma3server.exe -config=WerthlesHeadless_config.cfg -profiles=TestServer and starthc.bat arma3server.exe -client -profiles=TestHC -connect=localhost -port=2302 -password=arma

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can anyone confirm they have a working windows dedicated server with headless clients actually working in game?

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also tried 2D + Eden missions

brittle wasp Jul 5, 2016, 6:43 AM

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https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/192277-windows-dedicated-server-headless-clients-disconnect-when-mission-starts/

ionic whale Jul 5, 2016, 7:55 AM

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@brittle wasp make sure that your server or HC starts in their own install dir. If you running it from shortcut for example. If "Start in" differs from actual exe location it may produce strange results

brittle wasp Jul 5, 2016, 7:56 AM

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@ionic whale yeah, i'm just double clicking the .bat files (which runs it from the folder)

ionic whale Jul 5, 2016, 7:58 AM

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if your server (most likely) has some unique IP (external or internal) - try also to add that ip in client/hc list ion server config

brittle wasp Jul 5, 2016, 7:59 AM

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ok, will try that now

ionic whale Jul 5, 2016, 7:59 AM

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I see in my current working config: server say has ip 192.168..

headlessClients[]={"127.0.0.1","192.168.*.*"};
localClient[]={127.0.0.1,192.168.*.*};

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and my HC has option -connect (that ip)

brittle wasp Jul 5, 2016, 8:00 AM

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so you can confirm it is actually working?

ionic whale Jul 5, 2016, 8:00 AM

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working for me at least

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for 1.5+ years

brittle wasp Jul 5, 2016, 8:01 AM

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ours was working.. not sure when it stopped.. guessing with an update

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it looks like it works unless you check while ingame

ionic whale Jul 5, 2016, 8:01 AM

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my server runs latest 1.60 stable

brittle wasp Jul 5, 2016, 8:01 AM

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if you check at the map screen it looks like all is good

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yeah, same, 1.60 stable

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If it is actually working, then I must be missing something in those steps on the forum?

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because that's a completely fresh/vanilla install

ionic whale Jul 5, 2016, 8:03 AM

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idk, I have just set up server config once, and just replicating it d:\a3master > d:\a3server1, server2 and so on

brittle wasp Jul 5, 2016, 8:05 AM

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hmm we do just run them all from 1 folder

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maybe that's confusing it

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nah, neither separate folders or adding the external IP helped 😦

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i know it's a lot to ask, but i don't suppose you could test my mission (linked in that thread)? it doesn't require anything

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just to see if it looks the same to you

ionic whale Jul 5, 2016, 10:13 AM

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@brittle wasp can you please pm me the link

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I'll launch it

brittle wasp Jul 5, 2016, 10:55 AM

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argh.. steam was running on the server for another game

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Closing steam fixed it. Thanks for the help @ionic whale

ionic whale Jul 5, 2016, 12:16 PM

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nice to hear you sorted it out

oak rampart Jul 8, 2016, 3:49 AM

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Anyonr know how to use the "Launch as headless client" option properly in the Arna 3 Launher

ionic whale Jul 8, 2016, 8:48 AM

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it is better to do from command line

tame glen Jul 9, 2016, 12:17 AM

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I'm a little confused why it's even an option on the launcher. I don't think you can have battleye running on two game clients at the same time. I guess it could start up the server executable with the -client parameter.

ionic whale Jul 9, 2016, 8:12 AM

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I actually do not know, if you want several instances of arma on same PC - try to avoid using stock launcher

mystic sinew Jul 9, 2016, 9:19 PM

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any chances we see linux hc signature fix in apex?

gusty acorn Jul 11, 2016, 8:09 PM

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hc dont work for me with apex windows 😒

kind lotus Jul 14, 2016, 9:57 PM

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Well

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Here we all are

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So, I've got me a client server, and I'd jsut LOVE to have an HC going for when I host over the net

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I've got one, but it only works when I use LAN

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Any suggestions my friends?

kind lotus Jul 14, 2016, 10:20 PM

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Would using the performance executable fix this maybe?

kind lotus Jul 14, 2016, 11:19 PM

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If anyones knows, please do PM me, I'd love to figure it out

trim socket Jul 15, 2016, 9:38 AM

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@kind lotus headless client is only for usage with dedicated server

kind lotus Jul 15, 2016, 7:35 PM

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@trim socket Will there be any change to that? It'd be lovely to have a simple Local Client server that can share its workload.

trim socket Jul 15, 2016, 7:36 PM

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nope, as per my answer on BIForum (i assume it was you also) it's designed on purpose this way

kind lotus Jul 15, 2016, 7:43 PM

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Oh, I didn't see that. Alrighty, thank you for the answers. it is all a very clever system.

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I assume it is okay to ask you further questions when they arise?

trim socket Jul 15, 2016, 7:46 PM

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sure, no warranty on answer

kind lotus Jul 15, 2016, 7:46 PM

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Awesome, thank you. You guys work hard, and the community appreciates it.

iron vector Jul 21, 2016, 6:36 PM

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Ah

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I was in the wrong spot

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So, probably like everyone who posts in here, my HC won't connect to my dedicated server.

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I'm running both the server and HC from the dedicated box.

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http://pastebin.com/JJNWqvYg is my config

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And my HC command line is arma3server.exe -client -connect=74.208.153.131 -port=2302 -name=XXX -profiles=XXX

tame glen Jul 21, 2016, 6:44 PM

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What happens when it connects? Continuously connects and disconnects? Always has an hour glass next to its name?

iron vector Jul 21, 2016, 6:44 PM

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It never connects.

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I get to this in the logs. "Attempt to override final function - rscunitinfo_script"

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and then NUTHIN

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:/

tame glen Jul 21, 2016, 6:46 PM

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Wouldn't hurt to try -connect=127.0.0.1 since it's on the same box, but I don't think that's the issue

iron vector Jul 21, 2016, 6:47 PM

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Already tried.

tame glen Jul 21, 2016, 6:47 PM

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Any mods being used?

iron vector Jul 21, 2016, 6:48 PM

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Nope

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Just the standard DLC fare

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Apex Marksman Kart Zeus Helicopters

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And both appear to be loading them fine.

tame glen Jul 21, 2016, 6:51 PM

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What does your server starting parameters look like? I faintly remember an issue I once had when trying to connect an HC on the same box when the server was specifying an IP port

iron vector Jul 21, 2016, 7:13 PM

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arma3server.exe -ip=74.208.153.131 -servermod=@marma -port=2302 -profiles=YYYY

trim socket Jul 21, 2016, 7:14 PM

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@iron vector and you follow the basic settings and rules as in the biki ? https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_Headless_Client

Arma 3 Headless Client

iron vector Jul 21, 2016, 7:14 PM

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Pulling it out and trying

obsidian raven Jul 21, 2016, 7:14 PM

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Is the correct Profile loaded?
Did you enabled that BE License stuff?

iron vector Jul 21, 2016, 7:15 PM

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Boom

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That was it.

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-ip....

tame glen Jul 21, 2016, 7:15 PM

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😃

idle granite Jul 21, 2016, 7:25 PM

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Will there be any headless client system improvements made? "Like actually taking load off the server, right now with 20 people when we have 200 ai running around server fps go down with hc fps at same time"

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and we got 3 headless client that get AI split

trim socket Jul 21, 2016, 7:27 PM

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AI still needs to be synced on server and clients so you can't have huge amount of AI no matter of HC count

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if you want absurdly huge numbers of AI, i suggest you start use ALIVE

idle granite Jul 21, 2016, 7:27 PM

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that's just cashing right ?

trim socket Jul 21, 2016, 7:29 PM

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it's way more http://alivemod.com/#Features

idle granite Jul 21, 2016, 7:38 PM

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well we building ai wave system in BECTI, so dont really need to run Alive, man i think arma 2 was able to handle more ai

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right now with about 30 people and 180 ai we at 25-30 fps

ionic whale Jul 21, 2016, 8:00 PM

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had ~200 AI on server managed my HC, no problems detected

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HC is very efficient when you do not chase the number of AI, but using custom FSM (more complex than stock ones) - then a dedicated CPU/core will benefit you most from using the HC

trim socket Jul 21, 2016, 11:06 PM

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new client / server v6 performance binaries 1.62.137698 in #perf_prof_branch

idle granite Jul 22, 2016, 3:27 PM

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@ionic whale Like i said before if you have nothing useful to say don't clutter this place, i can have 600 AI on HC and i will have 48FPS with 1 player connected, got the idea yet?

noble root Jul 22, 2016, 10:47 PM

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i keep getting steam authentication failed 😢

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Is it because im launching a server.exe as a client, or because the profile of the HC isn't authenticating?

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I manually accepted battleye license and pasted the profile onto the server, im not 100% if that profile is actually being used when connecting

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so my question is: what causes a HC to fail a steam authentication?

tame glen Jul 22, 2016, 10:51 PM

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Is your server and HC on the same machine?

noble root Jul 22, 2016, 10:51 PM

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yes

tame glen Jul 22, 2016, 10:53 PM

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Is your HC connecting with 127.0.0.1 or the server's actual IP address?

noble root Jul 22, 2016, 10:53 PM

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127.0.0.1

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I'm connecting fine

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It just fails steam authentication when it joins

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I think its the "-profiles" portion im messing up and its causing issues

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start /W arma3serverSync.exe -client -password=69dark -name=HC1 -nosound -localhost=127.0.0.1 -connect=localhost -port=2314 -profile=headlessclient -mod=@69thOW;@cyan drum3;@CBA_A3;@cup_terrains_maps;@cup_terrains_core;@leights_opfor;@RHSAFRF;@RHSUSF;@TFAR;@69thID;

tame glen Jul 22, 2016, 10:55 PM

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Try removing the localhost

noble root Jul 22, 2016, 10:55 PM

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ok

tame glen Jul 22, 2016, 10:55 PM

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Sorry, this one -localhost=127.0.0.1

noble root Jul 22, 2016, 10:55 PM

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i also realized i put in profile instead of profiles

tame glen Jul 22, 2016, 10:55 PM

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I don't think profiles and accepting the BE license are an issue anymore

noble root Jul 22, 2016, 10:58 PM

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18:57:53 Dedicated client created.
18:58:08 Client connected: 127.0.0.1:2314
18:58:10 > Player headlessclient connecting
18:58:10 > You were kicked off the game. Steam authentication failed.

tame glen Jul 22, 2016, 10:59 PM

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Can you post your updated parameters

noble root Jul 22, 2016, 11:00 PM

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start /W arma3serverSync.exe -client -password=69dark -name=HC1 -nosound -connect=localhost -port=2314 -profiles=headlessclient -mod=@69thOW;@cyan drum3;@CBA_A3;@cup_terrains_maps;@cup_terrains_core;@leights_opfor;@RHSAFRF;@RHSUSF;@TFAR;@69thID;

tame glen Jul 22, 2016, 11:00 PM

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I really don't think it's the name or the profile

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I removed both -profiles and -name completely, then deleted the profile for headlessClient. Ran with only these parameters for my HC start arma3server -client -connect=localhost -port=2302 and it was able to connect fine and in addition created a profile in my profiles directory for headlessClient

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Could you paste your server start parameters as well please

noble root Jul 22, 2016, 11:04 PM

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-port=2314 "-config=C:\Games\ArmA3Sync\ArmA3SyncMaster\TADST\Sync\TADST_config.cfg" "-cfg=C:\Games\ArmA3Sync\ArmA3SyncMaster\TADST\Sync\TADST_basic.cfg" "-profiles=C:\Games\ArmA3Sync\ArmA3SyncMaster\TADST\Sync" -name=Sync -filePatching -netlog "-mod=@69thOW;@cyan drum3;@CBA_A3;@cup_terrains_maps;@cup_terrains_core;@leights_opfor;@RHSAFRF;@RHSUSF;@TFAR;@69thID" -enableHT [-bepath=C:\Games\ArmA3Private\ArmA3SyncMaster\TADST\Sync\BattlEye] -cpuCount=4 -exThreads=7 -malloc=tbb4malloc_bi -maxMem=4096 -hig

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sorry about the plain text

tame glen Jul 22, 2016, 11:05 PM

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For code blocks

noble root Jul 22, 2016, 11:05 PM

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yeah looking at formatting right now

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thanks

tame glen Jul 22, 2016, 11:05 PM

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I can't say I've ever seen a BEPath surrounded by brackets

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But I doubt that's the issue

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And you have this in your C:\Games\ArmA3Sync\ArmA3SyncMaster\TADST\Sync\TADST_config.cfg

headlessClients[]    = {"127.0.0.1"};
localClient[]        = {"127.0.0.1"};

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I just change my server.cfg to be

headlessClients[]    = {};
localClient[]        = {"127.0.0.1"};

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And it's now getting kicked for Steam authentication failed

noble root Jul 22, 2016, 11:09 PM

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'''
headlessClients[]={173.57.193.172};
localClient[]={127.0.0.1};
'''

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hmm

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1 sec

tame glen Jul 22, 2016, 11:12 PM

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I don't know if quotes matter, but definitely add 127.0.0.1 to the headlessClients entry

noble root Jul 22, 2016, 11:16 PM

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it was the quotes

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fuck tadst

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lmfao

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thanks for the help

tame glen Jul 22, 2016, 11:26 PM

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Awesome, just to confirm, did you add 127.0.0.1 and quotes, or only quotes around 173.57.193.172? It's probably a common issue with TADST, so it would be good to let the creator/creators know. I know for a long time on the wiki the headlessClients or localClient entry didn't have quotes around it, so they may have been basing their information on that when they write the program.

noble root Jul 22, 2016, 11:26 PM

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im still testing to make sure it was the quotes, had to take a call

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ill let you know for sure so everyone else knows

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it wasnt the quotes

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it was because I didn't have 127.0.0.1 in the headless client IP's

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https://gyazo.com/92e19529ecb1d319c9ed78dcbb3fda73

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in the tadst conrfig it looks like this

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headlessClients[]={127.0.0.1,173.57.193.172};
localClient[]={127.0.0.1};

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I had the understanding that if the HC is local, you didn't have to put it after headlessClients

zealous panther Jul 22, 2016, 11:46 PM

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IP should be Strings

noble root Jul 27, 2016, 3:26 AM

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What is the ideal number of headless clients on a server?

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The more the merrier?

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We're using Werthels headless module

kind crystal Jul 28, 2016, 12:09 PM

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Anyone having issues with headless client hourglassing on tanoa?

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Works fine on all the other maps

trim socket Jul 28, 2016, 12:37 PM

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@kind crystal try new #perf_prof_branch build

trim socket Jul 29, 2016, 2:13 PM

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new v10 performance binaries 1.62.137790 in #perf_prof_branch

mystic sorrel Jul 29, 2016, 4:43 PM

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@noble root I personally use 2 but it's more of a backup than a fully utilized one. ACEX added headless client support that works great as well. I recommend trying it.

cosmic light Jul 31, 2016, 11:45 AM

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what the benefit of using headless client?

slim lily Jul 31, 2016, 11:47 AM

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Less load on the server. AI calculations can be done by it, can improve overall fps.

cosmic light Jul 31, 2016, 11:48 AM

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how do i set it up?

slim lily Jul 31, 2016, 11:55 AM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_Headless_Client

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https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/178434-arma3-headless-client-guide/

cosmic light Jul 31, 2016, 11:59 AM

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thanks

cosmic light Jul 31, 2016, 9:52 PM

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does headless client work with triggers?

slim lily Jul 31, 2016, 11:20 PM

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@cosmic light yea

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Triggers work on every client.

cosmic light Aug 1, 2016, 11:27 AM

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if i set up the HC on the same server it will help?

urban juniper Aug 1, 2016, 11:56 PM

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I also want to know if worth to have server and HC on the same computer (i5 4670K with 16 GB RAM).

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If yes, i will start to code my mod to full HC support.

slim lily Aug 2, 2016, 11:31 AM

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I would say it is better, arma is a single core application so having the other cores do nothing is a waste of money I think. Also if you have the HC on an other server means it needs more Internet traffic between the two. If you have them on the same server bandwidth is minimal.

cosmic light Aug 2, 2016, 1:05 PM

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how do i check if unit is in the HC? i to add marker if he in the HC on the unit

noble root Aug 2, 2016, 4:48 PM

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Is it better to run a HC on a single core and have multiple HC's, or have 1 HC using many cores?

cosmic light Aug 2, 2016, 4:51 PM

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personal taste is 1 on many

cosmic light Aug 2, 2016, 7:55 PM

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https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/193234-setting-affinity-to-hc-and-server/

urban juniper Aug 3, 2016, 12:02 AM

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@cosmic light you can run on the server the code "_isOnServer = local _unit;" and if _isOnServer is true the unit is hosted on server. You also can run on server the code "_result = owner _unit;" if _result is 0 (zero) then the _unit is hosted on server.

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I had run 2 servers on my computer, one Arma 2 and one Arma 3 server, at the same time. Use of processor was not 100% but when i turn off one of the servers, the other have instantlly increase in performance. So just for that i believe Arma 3 + HC on the same machine can goes wrong... but only test will say.

urban juniper Aug 3, 2016, 3:11 AM

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If the machines are all local to the same router (and i believe this must be the case always) there is no internet consume by the HC.

misty ether Aug 3, 2016, 12:10 PM

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dude, it's not wise to try to achieve near 100%

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what you want to achieve is software not colliding and queueing eachother

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on the cpu that is

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i believe the noggins call it algorithmics, which is almost a philosophical thing

cosmic light Aug 3, 2016, 2:18 PM

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@urban juniper its show me always 0 even when the RTP say that 5 group moved to HC

urban juniper Aug 3, 2016, 3:46 PM

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I answered you wrong. Use "_isOnHc = local _unit;" on the HC, if _isOnHc is true, so the unit is hosted on the HC.

ripe helm Aug 3, 2016, 9:53 PM

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@cosmic light
Use the owner command on the server

chilly urchin Aug 4, 2016, 4:18 AM

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@cosmic light It's also the cheaper way. Having only 1 HC on multiple cores and easier to setup.

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@ripe helm Any idea if it's possible a player to use Headless Client against the server?

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So if HC is enabled, but the server doesn't have one setup

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A player could setup some kind of cheat thing

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So it would execute shit and be able to do cmds and shitv

ripe helm Aug 4, 2016, 10:36 AM

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Well you have to whitelist the HC IP(s), so no @chilly urchin

cosmic light Aug 5, 2016, 8:39 AM

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how do i set affintiy on TADST?

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anyone have expriance?

cosmic light Aug 5, 2016, 8:38 PM

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i have problem with HC
i was thininking that make the problem
it show me for a split a second that the HC is ready and back to hourglass icon
any idea?
i running the werthless headless module

cosmic light Aug 5, 2016, 9:10 PM

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😩 😖

urban juniper Aug 6, 2016, 4:03 PM

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This can be a little crazy question, but may someday we will able to offset players to the HC?

obsidian raven Aug 7, 2016, 7:50 AM

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?!?!?!

cosmic light Aug 7, 2016, 8:35 AM

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?

urban juniper Aug 7, 2016, 7:54 PM

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I lied, it's not a crazy question.

cosmic light Aug 7, 2016, 8:19 PM

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it show me for a split a second that the HC is ready and back to hourglass icon i get this to work by using "remote" HC

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what the diffent from conneting from the the same machine?

urban juniper Aug 7, 2016, 9:22 PM

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@heavy tiger if someday they have a real secondary server, and not a client simulating a secondady server, the two instances can receive players, and for the other instance a player will be like an AI unit.

cosmic light Aug 7, 2016, 10:26 PM

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when i make HC on my PC and direct him to the server(the dedi that not on my pc) its work

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i just want this to work already i spent f***ing 5 days and awake up to 3 am

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and this still noot work the dedi arrrrrrrrrrrrrgg

cosmic light Aug 7, 2016, 11:32 PM

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the HC is not working from the same machine.

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😡 😡 😡 😡 😡

urban juniper Aug 8, 2016, 1:00 AM

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@cosmic light what ip you is asking the HC to connect to? I believe this is the problem.

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Try the ip that apperas in ipConfig DOS command or 127.0.0.1

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the public IP is not the one to use

cosmic light Aug 8, 2016, 7:19 AM

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I know

cosmic light Aug 8, 2016, 4:28 PM

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the game has to be on the server to create the headless client?

kind crystal Aug 8, 2016, 4:51 PM

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HC deslots on Tanoa, vanilla and modded missions works on every other island

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Rebuilt config, profiles, reinstalled server and tried a few pref builds

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Anyone has any clue as to what to try next?

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Fairly stumpted to be fair

noble root Aug 8, 2016, 8:33 PM

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Your HC has to have mods too to join a modded server,has to have Tanoa to join a Tanoa server, and has to be vanilla to join the vanilla server @kind crystal

cosmic light Aug 8, 2016, 9:45 PM

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the game has to be on the server to create the headless client?

urban juniper Aug 8, 2016, 10:31 PM

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Yes

kind crystal Aug 8, 2016, 10:52 PM

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If I understand you correctly @noble root You are suggesting the dedicated server install needs to have a copy of tanoa, how does that even work seeing as it's downloaded by steamcmd?
We don't have an issue with the headless client not being able connecting, it simply deslots when loading any given mission on Tanoa, vanilla or any mission created from our mission frame work.

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I always figured -mod=curator;kart;heli;mark;expansion;dlcbundle would simply load the dedicated server correctly as well as the HC

noble root Aug 8, 2016, 11:27 PM

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So any mission that doesn't use the mods? @kind crystal

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It deslots?

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I think I'm not understanding the way you have your stuff set up

kind crystal Aug 9, 2016, 7:32 AM

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ANY mission on Tanoa that is created to use headless client, with and without mod requirements deslots the headless client.

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We keep one arma 3 server director, launch both the server and the headless client off the same server exe through our bat file

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And the server + HC loads the mods from the same mod directory

cosmic light Aug 9, 2016, 7:38 AM

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@urban juniper you talked to me?

cosmic light Aug 9, 2016, 8:05 AM

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But i read everywhere that it dosn't need the game

urban juniper Aug 9, 2016, 11:05 AM

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So i may be wrong. Sorry.

cosmic light Aug 9, 2016, 2:19 PM

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it work with the game installed on the server

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spend 5 days just to figure it out

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but i asked a few people that have HC they dont have the game on the server what the diffrent?

urban juniper Aug 9, 2016, 3:39 PM

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@cosmic light "his can be a little crazy question, but may someday we will able to offset players to the HC?"
No, the way Arma 3 works is that everything that's local to the machine, the machine is responsible for calculating everythnig for, like movement and whatnot.

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That's why desync is a thing, IIRC.

cosmic light Aug 9, 2016, 3:41 PM

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i didnt say it

trim socket Aug 9, 2016, 3:50 PM

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new client / server v13 performance binaries 1.62.137911 in #perf_prof_branch

cosmic light Aug 9, 2016, 3:54 PM

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it work with the game installed on the server
spend 5 days just to figure it out
but i asked a few people that have HC they dont have the game on the server what the diffrent? @trim socket

trim socket Aug 9, 2016, 4:34 PM

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@cosmic light i assume you talking about HC issues vs Tanoa ownership on account w/o the ownership (already got this reported, wip/investigated)

cosmic light Aug 9, 2016, 4:42 PM

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I talking why i need to dowload the game from steam to have HC

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In the wiki it says you dont need to i was stuck for days becuse of that

urban juniper Aug 9, 2016, 4:50 PM

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Oh, my bad @cosmic light , I meant to ping @urban juniper

trim socket Aug 9, 2016, 5:53 PM

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@cosmic light you just need to have registered steam account, not own the game ... in short, not fully anonymous download support

cosmic light Aug 9, 2016, 7:28 PM

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but i download the arma3server from steam

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i was needed to verified the server files?

trim socket Aug 9, 2016, 7:29 PM

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sorry i do not understand then what's your problem @cosmic light

cosmic light Aug 9, 2016, 7:30 PM

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the headless client didnt work until i downloaded the game

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it show me for a split a second that the HC is ready and back to hourglass icon i get this to work by using "remote" HC this was the problem

trim socket Aug 9, 2016, 7:40 PM

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@cosmic light are you running mission on Tanoa ?

cosmic light Aug 9, 2016, 7:40 PM

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no

trim socket Aug 9, 2016, 7:41 PM

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weird, should work w/o needing the game (arma 3 dedicated server data package with server binary which is also client binary shall not need (ever) install of arma 3 client for anything)

cosmic light Aug 9, 2016, 7:41 PM

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yea...

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but at least it work now

trim socket Aug 9, 2016, 7:48 PM

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i would suspect another cause and that there was wrong appid number in the steam_appid.txt

cosmic light Aug 9, 2016, 7:52 PM

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what nubmer it should be?

trim socket Aug 9, 2016, 8:00 PM

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107410 for both client and server data packages

cosmic light Aug 9, 2016, 8:02 PM

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where i need to put the steam_appid.txt on root folder?

trim socket Aug 10, 2016, 10:27 AM

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@cosmic light it goes where the binary is and should be there by default already

cosmic light Aug 11, 2016, 10:58 PM

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i must say this that was a seroius crash course about arma 3 dedi servers and HC
i wish that i could make this learning to some $$

soft wedge Aug 15, 2016, 8:31 AM

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Trying to set up remote headless client with our server but can't seem to get it to work. I've gone through everything I could find but remote client keeps getting kicked like 2 minutes after joining, while our LAN client testing stuff seems to be working fine.

normal frost Aug 18, 2016, 5:19 PM

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Has anyone any experience how many AIs can one HC handle without noticeable performance degradation? I'm wondering because we might do very AI heavy mission in future, would like to know how many HCs we need. Using top notch hardware like i7-4790k or Xeons.

urban juniper Aug 18, 2016, 5:29 PM

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I think it will be impossible to answere such a question because we dont know which scripts, Mods you usw how the Server is configuratet, how many people will play, on which map, on which Palace of the map and so on. You have to test it out by yourself.

normal frost Aug 18, 2016, 5:31 PM

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@urban juniper Let's say that scripts and mods have very small (unnoticeable) impact, so the server load would be caused by AI and sync only. Altis and Tanoa as maps (whole map in use), extremely lightweight configuration on server to maximize performance. About 30-60 players per server.

urban juniper Aug 18, 2016, 5:35 PM

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And how I should now calculate? Do you think there is a formula to calculate the serverfps? Test it out by yourself. On our Server there was only a very small impact of HC. The HC was only a bit helpfull Ehen mich AI was spawnd.

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*when much

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So without HC we had 20serverfps and with we had 22-25.

normal frost Aug 18, 2016, 8:40 PM

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@urban juniper Thanks for the info anyways. But CPS from 20 to 22-25 with HC? Jesus, I was expecting a bit better results.

chilly urchin Aug 19, 2016, 2:17 AM

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@normal frost Arma tends to use 1 Core, and the HC would use another core. That's the point of a HC

urban juniper Aug 19, 2016, 5:09 AM

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@chilly urchin correct

cosmic light Aug 19, 2016, 7:45 AM

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i used on the server parameters -cpuCount=2 and for headless i use 3 cores

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160 ai with 25 playes at 30~ server fps

normal frost Aug 19, 2016, 9:25 AM

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@chilly urchin I'm well aware of the technical details. I was asking if anyone had any experience of the magnitude of the performance increase with HC. Thanks for help anyways. :)

shadow kraken Aug 20, 2016, 4:25 AM

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@normal frost try asking the ALiVE devs and community - i think they make/made use of HC

trim socket Aug 23, 2016, 1:01 PM

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•Tweaked: Data signature checks are now disabled for Headless Clients soon in PROFILING branch performance binaries too

idle granite Aug 23, 2016, 5:40 PM

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@normal frost Our single HC can support up to 250 AI, after that its fps starts dropping below 20 (thats with no players connected) When you have over 40 people on server HC is useless. Its best result when you have 4-8 people if you running maps wth over 400-500 ai.

obsidian raven Aug 23, 2016, 9:42 PM

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Another Benefit of HC:
If you use extDB -> Offload that stuff to the HC. So its independent from Server CPS (lessen the chance, that the DB-Update are beeinb blocked/get delayed by low ServerCPS)

trim socket Aug 24, 2016, 2:37 PM

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new v16 is now in #perf_prof_branch

cosmic light Aug 24, 2016, 6:16 PM

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What with the apex and the hc?

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Tanoa to be percise

trim socket Aug 25, 2016, 2:04 PM

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@cosmic light what problem ?

cosmic light Aug 25, 2016, 3:13 PM

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when the HC dosnt load up in tanoa

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its stuck on hourglass

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@trim socket

Jager - 08/09/2016
ANY mission on Tanoa that is created to use headless client, with and without mod requirements deslots the headless client.
We keep one arma 3 server director, launch both the server and the headless client off the same server exe through our bat file
And the server + HC loads the mods from the same mod directory

trim socket Aug 25, 2016, 3:49 PM

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@cosmic light that issue of @kind crystal is specific-related to weird setup combining steam client downloaded server/client, i've yet to see single complain from normal usage of dedicated server / hc via steamcmd vs Apex content

cosmic light Aug 25, 2016, 4:03 PM

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well...we have the ssame set up

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we also use steam server and client

trim socket Aug 25, 2016, 4:04 PM

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as always, it's not recommended to use steamclient for/at dedicated server / headless client (which is dedicated server binary /content anyway)

cosmic light Aug 25, 2016, 4:05 PM

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yea i know but i was not the one who set up the server 7 years ago...

trim socket Aug 25, 2016, 4:06 PM

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in that case i would simply need to know exactly how it's setup to try replicate it (which will be nightmare 😉 )

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overally i prefer if you do clean slate install with/via steamCMD as much as possible and avoid using steamclient on the same box

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otherwise it's just asking for unforseen collisions on the steam api/libraries level etc.

cosmic light Aug 25, 2016, 4:10 PM

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to do new install its a big problem of people ego

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its easy to replicate install steam --> install from tools "arma3server" --> install on different drive -->"arma 3"

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and configure the HC

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@trim socket

trim socket Aug 25, 2016, 4:27 PM

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but that's wrong approach, HC is not anymore using the normal client at all, this is approach from Arma 2: OA times

scenic dove Aug 25, 2016, 4:32 PM

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yea i know but i was not the one who set up the server 7 years ago...
may I ask how Arma 3 server was setup 7 years ago when it hasn't been released yet haha

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your best bet is to redo your setup

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with how A3 works

cosmic light Aug 25, 2016, 4:34 PM

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my bad my clan is 7 years old

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sorry for that

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yea i know but i was not the one who set up the server 3 years ago...*

scenic dove Aug 25, 2016, 4:36 PM

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re-set it up then 😃

cosmic light Aug 25, 2016, 4:37 PM

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its easy to say

trim socket Aug 25, 2016, 4:46 PM

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yes but headless client changes were rapid and dynamic to address many 'complains' and issues so utilizing setup which is outdated could lead to those problems

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i would suggest to reconsider clean slate for 1.64 😉

crimson saffron Aug 25, 2016, 4:50 PM

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@obsidian raven is there any info on offloading extdb2 stuff to HC?

obsidian raven Aug 25, 2016, 4:52 PM

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Just send the UpdateRequests to the HC, instead of Server

cosmic light Aug 31, 2016, 9:56 PM

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@trim socket reisntalled just now the server via steamCMD HC work on Tanoa

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but is 1.62 not 1.64

scenic dove Aug 31, 2016, 10:25 PM

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uhm yes, 1.62 is current stable

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1.64 is not released yet 😛

cosmic light Sep 1, 2016, 7:40 AM

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Ohh okey

maiden finch Sep 2, 2016, 6:10 AM

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Did anyone had any luck using HC with Zeus? Whenever i try to change formation or behaviour of utins transfered to HC, it keeps reseting itself to the original setting. For example, if units in "combat" state (doing bounding movements, moving very slowly), there is no way to make them rested, to make them do what is needed

urban juniper Sep 3, 2016, 11:52 PM

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I've been doing some thorough testing and it appears that we are actually experiencing worse server performance with the headless client than without it!

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The average fps is not much lower, but the minFPS suffers quite a bit.

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Is there any explanation for this? We're using the stable 1.62 binaries

trim socket Sep 4, 2016, 12:08 PM

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use perf binaries from #perf_prof_branch main stable is obsolete 😉

chilly urchin Sep 5, 2016, 5:18 AM

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@urban juniper if I'm not mistaken, if your on a Zeus server without a HC the server load is transferred to ZEUS

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That's why if Zeus losses connection mid-battle the AI get God mode

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And then when he/she fully disconnects it all updates

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And fires everything at once.

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I saw a video about "When Zeus losses connection in an operation" on the Arma Reddit page

scenic dove Sep 5, 2016, 12:18 PM

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if your on a Zeus server without a HC the server load is transferred to ZEUS

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not exactly

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when Zeus spawns units, those units are local to Zeus, spawned on Zeus' machine

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when Zeus disconnects, the units are transferred to server

cosmic light Sep 6, 2016, 9:04 PM

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does the HC give random waypoint to UAV?

idle granite Sep 8, 2016, 5:22 PM

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does HC really has no head ?

chilly urchin Sep 9, 2016, 10:05 PM

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@scenic dove ok, but in reality... (And rip for the delay) since its local to Zeus because it was on the zeus's machine which is transferred to the players... In reality, the server "load" as the units/ai/etc are put on Zeus

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Also what if the Zeus spectator shit place a unit (if I give perm to it)

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Would that unit load be put on that player? Or shoved on Zeus

scenic dove Sep 9, 2016, 10:30 PM

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I don't understand what you are saying

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Zeus is a player, Zeus machine == player machine

ancient sphinx Sep 14, 2016, 5:49 AM

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Our server runs three HCs (or at least, our host says it does), and even still I notice that trying to open Zeus usually has a lag long enough to trip TFR (our radio mod). I know that Zeus wasn't originally meant to be with so many mods, but there must be other ways to optimise the loading times

trim socket Sep 16, 2016, 4:33 PM

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new binaries 1.62.138440 in #perf_prof_branch

trim socket Sep 20, 2016, 2:14 PM

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new 1.62.138470 performance binaries (v20) in #perf_prof_branch

topaz hornet Sep 21, 2016, 1:12 PM

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I'd like to throw that in here in hopes people might have an idea: https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/194386-headless-client-crash-to-much-ram-usage/

tame glen Sep 21, 2016, 2:06 PM

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Just to clarify, is the HC being run from an Arma 3 Server install with -client?

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I'm asking because the steamcmd or the separate Arma 3 server install have a different set of vanilla PBOs compared to a standard steam Arma 3 client. For the server installation the PBOs are greatly reduced in file size, and they essentially replace all textures with a very small image (since the server doesn't need to display textures). There are apparently some other file size reductions but I can't recall the specifics. Only reason I bring this up is that using the server installation should in theory reduce the memory used by the HC.

dry robin Sep 21, 2016, 2:31 PM

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Hey guys, whats up!? im having a little trouble here setting up my server with HC

topaz hornet Sep 21, 2016, 2:33 PM

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@tame glen I basically use the same installation for the HC as for the server. Obviously different folder, server.cfg and .exe but the installation .bat is basically a copy ^^

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@dry robin I guess some more info would be helpful ^^

dry robin Sep 21, 2016, 3:05 PM

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Hey, yeah sorry thught i had it fixed but i didnt 😃

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can anyone please look at my mission sqm? maybe see something that i apparently wont

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http://pastebin.com/gUwW05M1

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i get to the point that i see this in console:

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06:01 Successfull attempt to execute serverCommand '#kick 99' by server.
17:06:01 Successfull attempt to execute serverCommand '#kick 100' by server.
17:06:01 Successfull attempt to execute serverCommand '#kick 101' by server.
17:06:01 Successfull attempt to execute serverCommand '#kick 102' by server.
17:06:01 Game started.

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then HC's starting up and go on an endless loop spamming: headlessclient uses modified data or something like that

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modified data file

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Moony, u need a server.cfg for the client too?

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?

topaz hornet Sep 21, 2016, 3:25 PM

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Its not like i'd be the best addresse (as shown above) but posting it wouldn'thurtI guess ^^
However, do you load all the mods that are also loaded by the server? "uses modified data" sounds like a missing addon.
Maybe a look in the rpt file for the client would help aswell.

dry robin Sep 21, 2016, 3:25 PM

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for the client? i havent tried connecting yet =p because its locked or you mean server rpt?

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i load the same mods on HC yep

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http://pastebin.com/5yKkTf9W < RPT

topaz hornet Sep 21, 2016, 3:28 PM

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Sorry, I meant Headless Client :3

dry robin Sep 21, 2016, 3:28 PM

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aah =p

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there is also Warning Message: Script \A3XAI\init\client\fn_preStart.sqf not found

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http://pastebin.com/w6ahM681

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hmmm "A3XAI blocked execution of A3XAI\init\server\fn_postInit.sqf.

topaz hornet Sep 21, 2016, 3:37 PM

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@tame glen I kinda overread that, yes it is run with -client.
@dry robin Is the HC actually connecting to the server?

dry robin Sep 21, 2016, 3:38 PM

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nope, the mission doesnt unlock so it cant

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but without the HC inside the mission sqm, it does unlock, and can connect to it and play so must be doin something wrong there just cant see it

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double double double checked the numbers etc

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class Item99
{
position[]={13220.003,15.385726,11697.254};
special="NONE";
id=99;
side="GUER";
vehicle="Exile_Unit_GhostPlayer";
player="PLAY CDG";
skill=0.60000002;
};
class Item100
{
position[]={13220.003,15.385726,11697.254};
special="NONE";
id=100;
side="LOGIC";
vehicle="HeadlessClient_F";
player="PLAY CDG";
skill=0.6;
text="HC1";
forceHeadlessClient = 1;
};
class Item101
{
position[]={13220.003,15.385726,11697.254};
special="NONE";
id=101;
side="LOGIC";
vehicle="HeadlessClient_F";
player="PLAY CDG";
skill=0.6;
text="HC2";
forceHeadlessClient = 1;
};
class Item102
{
position[]={13220.003,15.385726,11697.254};
special="NONE";
id=102;
side="LOGIC";
vehicle="HeadlessClient_F";
player="PLAY CDG";
skill=0.6;
text="HC3";
forceHeadlessClient = 1;
};

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also tried with the init inside the HC classes

topaz hornet Sep 21, 2016, 3:42 PM

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Does the server allow HC's: https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_Headless_Client#Headless_Client_Overview

dry robin Sep 21, 2016, 3:43 PM

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yeah you mean the: headlessClients[]={127.0.0.1};
localClient[]={127.0.0.1};

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and battleye license?

topaz hornet Sep 21, 2016, 3:44 PM

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I can only say how I did it. I also allowed the server IP (not only the local IP) because my HC didn't want to connect with 127.0.0.1 either for some reason

dry robin Sep 21, 2016, 3:45 PM

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hmm omg i see im missing ""

topaz hornet Sep 21, 2016, 3:45 PM

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Lets hope thats the problem then ^^

dry robin Sep 21, 2016, 3:45 PM

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haha

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i hope

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but another question

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as i am trying to load 3 HC's how dows that work with local ip?

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k im also gonna add the server ip^^ thats a good one

topaz hornet Sep 21, 2016, 3:48 PM

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They will, when its working, just normally connect to the server and pick an empty Headless Client spot. Nothing needs to be changed if you add multiple HCs. (at least in terms of connection)

dry robin Sep 21, 2016, 3:48 PM

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k thnks 😃 gonna try now, brbr

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what do you have in your servr.cfg for the HC?

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17:56:25 Dedicated client created.
17:57:07 Client connected: 127.0.0.1:2302
17:57:07 > This server is currently locked.

topaz hornet Sep 21, 2016, 4:42 PM

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Sorry, the local IP and the Server IP.

I don't really understand what "locked" means. FYI, I have no real knowledge about Exile at all!

dry robin Sep 21, 2016, 5:06 PM

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ok, well the locked part is for that people wont join while everything it still loading in and then spawn weird

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thnks for help anyway

topaz hornet Sep 22, 2016, 6:02 PM

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Because it might have fallen under the radar T^T: https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/194386-headless-client-crash-to-much-ram-usage/

trim socket Sep 22, 2016, 6:37 PM

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new 1.64.138510 performance binaries (v0) in #perf_prof_branch

cosmic light Sep 23, 2016, 1:04 PM

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my HC back to be hour glass after i updated server to 1.64

cosmic light Sep 23, 2016, 5:17 PM

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Any thoughts?

cosmic light Sep 24, 2016, 11:10 AM

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solved:steam client was runnig in the backgroung on server

trim socket Sep 24, 2016, 11:18 AM

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grins ... just wanted to point that out as possible cause

kind crystal Sep 28, 2016, 5:36 PM

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So I got a weird one our HC crashed last night with the error message: Too many virtual memory blocks requested

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Anyone come across this?

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The only occurance I could find of this was some patch notes from arma 2 where this error was fixed

topaz hornet Sep 28, 2016, 8:04 PM

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I have a similar problem (I posted a link to a BI Forum thread) a week ago

trim socket Sep 29, 2016, 3:02 PM

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new 1.64.138587 performance binaries (v1) in #perf_prof_branch

runic storm Oct 2, 2016, 6:18 AM

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Can I get some help with a headless client?

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It is starting but not connecting to the server

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it just says dedicated client created and just sits there

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I have been trying everything to get it to work

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I have spent the last 3 hours trying to get this damn thing to connect