#arma3_tools | ARMA | Page 14

pliant lynx Mar 23, 2017, 12:41 PM

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alright now I start to understand, but like said I never even heard of mikero tools encryption before 5min ago 😉

dawn palm Mar 23, 2017, 12:41 PM

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it doesn't exist is why.

orchid shadow Mar 23, 2017, 12:41 PM

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Eh, the protection is pretty pointless anyway.

pliant lynx Mar 23, 2017, 12:42 PM

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ah beautiful, just when I though this conversation reached its end... mikero throws usual wrench into the picture HEHE 😄

dawn palm Mar 23, 2017, 12:42 PM

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<grin>

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unfortunately snakeman, it's not really helping in the initial quetions about what bis has gone and broken now.

orchid shadow Mar 23, 2017, 12:43 PM

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They should enforce standards for pbos too.

dawn palm Mar 23, 2017, 12:45 PM

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Just to cut the noise levels down, i'll reiterate them here:

it appears that 3rd party ebos can no longer be signed correctly

much much much more significant, they've appear to a have broken 'no prefix' addons

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this has consequences for folks making small project pbos. ones not containing lots of folders. No prefix addons don't appear to be able to be signed at all. so it's all down to the genius who changed that particular code in dsSignfile (probably)

orchid shadow Mar 23, 2017, 12:48 PM

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Missions have no prefix right.

elfin oxide Mar 23, 2017, 12:49 PM

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missions do not need to get signed, we talk about addons here

orchid shadow Mar 23, 2017, 12:50 PM

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The previous explanation seemed to imply something else.

native kiln Mar 23, 2017, 1:01 PM

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What are you doing here @elfin oxide

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Get back to work

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pulls out whip

elfin oxide Mar 23, 2017, 1:03 PM

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goes back to work crying

dawn palm Mar 23, 2017, 1:03 PM

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thank you. he's a damn pest with his commonsense.

native kiln Mar 23, 2017, 1:06 PM

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@dawn palm you and @elfin oxide fit together

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🐍

orchid shadow Mar 23, 2017, 1:06 PM

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Considering you edited your response after i posted mine.

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It was not very clear that you were talking about signing the pbo, it sounded more like it was a issue loading them.

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Thus my query makes a lot more sense.

plush shard Mar 23, 2017, 1:07 PM

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so is dsSignfile creating broken signatures for those files or no at all, or are they not accepted anymore by the game (even existing ones)?

dawn palm Mar 23, 2017, 1:16 PM

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existing bisign files appear to be ok.

plush shard Mar 23, 2017, 1:23 PM

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how was the signing of ebos even working - I always expected you had to use the signature of the corresponding pbo?

dawn palm Mar 23, 2017, 1:26 PM

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you do indeed. you need the unique 20 byte sha as a minimum.

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it;s generating new sigs that seems to be the problem.

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correction: depending on the method of encryption a sha isn't required (vbs use non-sha encryption,) and i assume bis 'simply' encoded the entire pbo (past tense). they've moved goalposts, * I think*.

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I don't have an axe to grind here, i'm not interested in ebo. I just want it confirmed that these two items won't, now, produce usable bisigns and adjust my own tools accordingly.

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If my users can no longer produce no prefix addons , i need to do something about that.

glossy inlet Mar 23, 2017, 2:15 PM

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They made some fix in the bisign algo thingy. Someone reported a bug and Dwarden said they'll roll that fix back. Could very well be that that bug was connected to pbos without prefix. They rolled it back in Game but not in the Tools.

dawn palm Mar 23, 2017, 2:37 PM

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nice info. thanx dedmen

glossy inlet Mar 23, 2017, 2:44 PM

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in #perf_prof_branch

Ryeng - 03/10/2017
Same over here. Data verfication failed. Both server and client running v20.
Dwarden - 03/10/2017
ok @ Valthos @ ElmoBlatch @ PabstMirror @ Ryeng ... narrowed this to 3D editor missions guess we need revert of the sig crash fix until figured out

vague shard Mar 23, 2017, 4:47 PM

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@dawn palm no problems here and i am fairly certain we have some no prefix pbos

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i would ask for the contrary - where is a sample of a no prefix pbo making problems

dawn palm Mar 23, 2017, 4:48 PM

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thanx kju

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i actually thought it was your ifa mod that was having problems.

vague shard Mar 23, 2017, 4:51 PM

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thats news to me

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BI only broke something with -checkSignatures and bikeys not in A3\keys

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thats completely unrelated to prefix or none though

dawn palm Mar 23, 2017, 4:56 PM

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unrelated or not, aren;t you having trouble with no prefix addons?

vague shard Mar 23, 2017, 5:15 PM

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not that i am aware of

stoic lava Mar 24, 2017, 12:25 AM

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Is this chat dedicated only to third party tools? where to ask questions about BIS Tools?

dawn palm Mar 24, 2017, 12:42 AM

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it is called tool MAKERS

narrow bough Mar 24, 2017, 1:12 AM

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BIS Tools you can use forums, there is whole section for them

stoic lava Mar 24, 2017, 1:12 AM

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ok, @dawn palm since your tools page is offline, I have to stick with BIS Tools, and I have not found better place to ask

dawn palm Mar 24, 2017, 1:55 AM

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@stoic lava https://forums.bistudio.com/forums/topic/113852-mikeros-dos-tools/

Bohemia Interactive Forums

Mikero's Dos Tools

These basic tools were updated to the latest subscriber versions in July 2016. Obfuscation and/or compression are disabled in the free vers...

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Arma3P updated (again!) to account for potential incompatibility with Win10 (thank you kju)

also swallowed kju's advice and no longer extract 'useless' layer pbos 😎

narrow bough Mar 24, 2017, 1:58 AM

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nice

stoic lava Mar 24, 2017, 2:13 AM

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@dawn palm it leads me to dev-heaven page, which is offered for me for sale of $530

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finally it opened! thanks!

stoic lava Mar 24, 2017, 2:53 AM

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arma3p required some fix as well to get working

dawn palm Mar 24, 2017, 3:30 AM

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thank you for that feedback. the forum topic has been updated.

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more info please re arma3p

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(I reckon that simple bat file hates me)

dawn palm Mar 24, 2017, 5:23 AM

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shiny new maverick updater for those of you subscribed to same. Thank you Optix

buoyant compass Mar 24, 2017, 5:30 AM

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very shiny

narrow bough Mar 24, 2017, 6:02 AM

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I still havent got my welcome/verification mail

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and its not in my spambox

dawn palm Mar 24, 2017, 8:15 AM

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you'd have to ask optix/arkensor about that.i I don't think anyone does. There's a ticket area on the maverick website but buggered if i can find it.

elfin oxide Mar 24, 2017, 11:34 AM

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I we do not send any confirmation mails etc atm. If you log in and see the download section and not the purchase button everything worked out for you. We will be sending such mails in the future though

scenic canopy Mar 24, 2017, 2:34 PM

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@dawn palm would it be too much to ask for a silent parameter or so for arma3p that just runs and extracts to p:/some specified drive like the other tools? it's a bit tiresome to editing after every update for our headless servers 😃

pearl beacon Mar 24, 2017, 5:37 PM

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Arma language support for Atom has been updated 2 days ago, for anyone that missed it, changelog at https://forums.bistudio.com/forums/topic/185849-arma-languages-support-for-atom/?page=2#comment-3167189

woeful cliff Mar 24, 2017, 10:01 PM

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@vague shard Happy? https://youtu.be/l1TgP24p3K0

dawn palm Mar 24, 2017, 11:11 PM

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my god, that would be annoying dahlgren. i'll either provide a cmd line /s or a silent=no at the top of the file, next release. i prefer the latter so that a noob can't avoid fixing his errors.

vague shard Mar 25, 2017, 4:49 AM

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@MulleDK19#3770 very happy 🌞

scenic canopy Mar 25, 2017, 6:22 AM

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@dawn palm ❤

versed kernel Mar 25, 2017, 11:17 AM

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pboProjects -Islands command line parameter does not work?


unknown option: 'Islands=p:\ca,p:\test'
Command line parms are bad. See documenation for syntax
press the any key

(pboProject 1.94.6.4)

dawn palm Mar 25, 2017, 11:29 AM

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looking....

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I'll correct the documentation later. island paths are no longer necessary and were dropped. pboPro determines the land classes itself.

versed kernel Mar 25, 2017, 12:19 PM

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I needed to set that option (at least in the free tools) for my project to build successfully.

smoky halo Mar 25, 2017, 12:45 PM

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i moved my odol converter to http://odolconverter.t-db.de/

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if you find bugs pls let me know 😃

dawn palm Mar 25, 2017, 2:08 PM

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@versed kernel. the free tools will use whatever has been saved in the registry from the last gui session. eg, provide them via setup->

versed kernel Mar 25, 2017, 2:10 PM

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I know, but I need to set it in batch mode

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(Jenkins). I know how to edit registry values from cli, but then I cant run multiple jobs at the same time

dawn palm Mar 25, 2017, 2:12 PM

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I have no plans to update the free tools anytime soon.

versed kernel Mar 25, 2017, 2:13 PM

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I just subscibed 😉

dawn palm Mar 25, 2017, 2:13 PM

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in which case, you won't need paths at all.

versed kernel Mar 25, 2017, 2:17 PM

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still need it unfortunately

dawn palm Mar 25, 2017, 2:18 PM

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they are only used for bis binarse to develop land classes. Now, I do it instead.

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The have no other purpose.

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I no longer 'permit' binarise to wander all over the Pdrive.

pliant lynx Mar 25, 2017, 3:10 PM

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OfotViking: all the terrains I have binarized with pboproject, I have had no use for this "islands" setting, I dont even know what it does.

dawn palm Mar 25, 2017, 3:13 PM

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your subsriber version 'does' what binarise tries todo, but frequently fails, and as frequently, crashes to desktop.

specifically, it forces binarise to bake land_NameOfp3d into the wrp..

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any p3d with geolod class=house must have a corresponding land class config to go with it.

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if allowed to, binarise serches all over the Pdrive in a desperate hunt for a config.cpp containing that class.

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It causes the most pernicous of all bis errors. it will crash to desktop if ANY config, any config at all any\where contains errors.

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And you have a snowball in hell's chance of discovering which one that might be.

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It can be a piece-of-shit config that you've tucked away in my\unused\folder to fix later.

binarise unerringly finds it.

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when you've torn your hair out, smashed three keyboards and drowned a mouse. you find the problem and carry on. Only to find out IN GAME that binarise could not FIND a land class so it ignored the problem.

Your doors wont open and windows can't without a land class baked into a wrp..

3 more keyboards and two mice later, you become a subscriber and the problems go away. forever.

wide cedar Mar 25, 2017, 3:32 PM

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@dawn palm do you happen to know if binarise allows macros inside include paths?

dawn palm Mar 25, 2017, 3:32 PM

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in the "filename.itself" I doubt it.

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no no it can't

wide cedar Mar 25, 2017, 3:32 PM

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cool. then i can just resolve includes myself and then hand the result to cpp

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i'm not dealing with all that crap anymore

dawn palm Mar 25, 2017, 3:33 PM

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i merge 'em all and don't actually store hpp/h in the pbo (unless told to)

wide cedar Mar 25, 2017, 3:34 PM

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well i wrote my own preprocessor and it keeps fucking up in weird edge cases and the thing is a mess anyways

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so i'm throwing it all out and figuring out a way to use gcc's (even though i'm not sure how to yet)

dawn palm Mar 25, 2017, 3:34 PM

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your code is quality stuff. i would not blame you.

wide cedar Mar 25, 2017, 3:35 PM

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that way they handle the error reporting too, which is really good, especially since 6.x

dawn palm Mar 25, 2017, 3:36 PM

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BUT if you're dealing with mission.sqm , you need a dozen goats.

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sorry, i meant desc.ext

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there are at least five different relative addresses that bis use for desc.ext includes.

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depends if it's a campaign, and depends what they break.

wide cedar Mar 25, 2017, 3:38 PM

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i'll cross that bridge when i get to it, now i need to figure out how to properly include gcc's libcpp without breaking everything on windows

dawn palm Mar 25, 2017, 3:39 PM

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lower case is the holy grail for me.

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I have had no problems with linux at all except case.

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correction. killswitch has had no problems <grin>

wide cedar Mar 25, 2017, 3:40 PM

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most of the fixes i had to make to projects when testing building on linux were case changes

dawn palm Mar 25, 2017, 3:40 PM

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yes indeed.

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and of/course/this/

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fortunately the vc compiler 'understands' above.

wide cedar Mar 25, 2017, 3:41 PM

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it's especially maddening when there are two versions of the same folder (like UI and ui), which git seperates, but on windows no one notices because it just merges them

dawn palm Mar 25, 2017, 3:41 PM

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ouch

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welcome to hell.

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I of course, refuse to let git occur anyhwere on my island. svn all the way.

wide cedar Mar 25, 2017, 3:43 PM

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😬

dawn palm Mar 25, 2017, 3:44 PM

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all git traffic is blocked.

karmic niche Mar 25, 2017, 3:44 PM

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Why use svn? Isn't CVS enough for your needs? 😉

dawn palm Mar 25, 2017, 3:44 PM

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haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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@wide cedar the only thing linxu/versus windoze you must pay attention to, and especially with bis, is filenames. They must be utf16le for windoze, and they must be utf8 for the penguin. I have trap exceptions for all file calls that convert<>one way to the other.

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It's sounds logical but you'll rue the day you let fopen("fred",....); out the door. It will come back and bite you.

nocturne basin Mar 25, 2017, 5:27 PM

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ArmA.Studio received an update
details in #production_releases

pearl beacon Mar 25, 2017, 7:00 PM

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christ, how can you live with SVN

woeful cliff Mar 25, 2017, 8:12 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iabYq_Iy_YA

dawn palm Mar 26, 2017, 1:28 AM

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git develepment was funded by micro$oft because they couldn't make money from svn. But if you believe in the tooth fairy, they did it because they like you. Like any crime, look for the motive. We now have githubs and cloud servers and all manner of marvellous money making ventures. They are actually useful. but the underlying protocol s worse than dogshit.

wind elm Mar 26, 2017, 1:31 AM

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but it works

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=}

dawn palm Mar 26, 2017, 1:33 AM

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yep

pearl beacon Mar 26, 2017, 1:35 AM

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Microsoft funded git?

dawn palm Mar 26, 2017, 1:35 AM

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in the meantime so does svn, and it's around 50% svn/git. that will change as git takes over.

pearl beacon Mar 26, 2017, 1:35 AM

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Git already took over

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at least majorly in open-source, can't really say much about closed-source stuff if you don't know what is there

karmic niche Mar 26, 2017, 1:37 AM

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git develepment was funded by micro$oft (...)
Errr... so what? Windows development was funded by micro$oft as well and I don't see you criticising 99% of Arma players for using that OS :).

Git works okay. It allows branching and merging much better than svn (at least used to) and that's why it's great to me.

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And the distributed nature of it, while it requires you to clone the entire repo in order to start working on it really does wonders if you don't want to connect to the remote server every time you want to perform an action that actually matters

glossy inlet Mar 26, 2017, 1:41 AM

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Wasn't MS starting on doing some new Git stuff? searching for it

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https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/visualstudioalm/2017/02/03/announcing-gvfs-git-virtual-file-system/

pearl beacon Mar 26, 2017, 1:42 AM

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I am not sure where the information that MS funded git came from

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MS was not even touching Git since just a few years ago, were they?

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in terms of adding support and whatnot

vague shard Mar 26, 2017, 5:23 AM

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@woeful cliff looking good. out of interest how do you make it run/check the same fps/cycle time/speed as it does in arma - or do you get events from Arma essentially?

woeful cliff Mar 26, 2017, 5:24 AM

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uh, check the same cycle speed?

vague shard Mar 26, 2017, 5:36 AM

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is this that reliable? nice

woeful cliff Mar 26, 2017, 6:11 AM

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@vague shard I don't understand your question

vague shard Mar 26, 2017, 6:14 AM

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if you have something checked per frame, you need to read out fps, dont you? and then sync exactly

woeful cliff Mar 26, 2017, 7:24 AM

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@vague shard I don't. I hook into the game's script execution directly. The game doesn't continue execution until it gets a go from my debugger. The visualization is essentially an automatic stepping feature of my debugger

vague shard Mar 26, 2017, 7:43 AM

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i see. thats cool 😃

orchid shadow Mar 26, 2017, 9:08 AM

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lol

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git funded by MS

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What dogshit right there

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I mean it was Linus Torvalds who wrote , same guy who wrote hte linux kernal...

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And if i remembered he wrote it becasue the tools they used were abandon or were made to cost money or something.

pliant lynx Mar 26, 2017, 9:14 AM

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heh indeed.

scenic canopy Mar 26, 2017, 9:14 AM

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they had to switch from BitKeeper since they revoked Linux free licenses after they reversed the protocol

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microsoft's product manager for TFS shifted focus to git after releasing TFS 2012, announcing that both TFS and VS would start supporting git features and contributing support for windows to core git libraries such as libgit2

orchid shadow Mar 26, 2017, 9:54 AM

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So bottom line mikero little rant is hilariously wrong in so many ways.

scenic canopy Mar 26, 2017, 9:56 AM

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well, they are funding a lot of git development so it's not wrong

orchid shadow Mar 26, 2017, 9:56 AM

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Well what gigantic tech companies are not funding git related stuff?

scenic canopy Mar 26, 2017, 9:57 AM

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well, facebook switched to mercurial

wind elm Mar 26, 2017, 9:58 AM

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Hmm, its still not wrong, what Mikero wrote, tbh.

orchid shadow Mar 26, 2017, 9:58 AM

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I'm still not sure that windows funding git is anyway some kind of conspiracy because windows couldn't make money from SVN

wind elm Mar 26, 2017, 9:58 AM

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I would wonder if not.

orchid shadow Mar 26, 2017, 9:59 AM

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https://giphy.com/gifs/why-ryan-reynolds-1M9fmo1WAFVK0

wind elm Mar 26, 2017, 10:00 AM

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Because:
They can.

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I mean, why does Google has his Hands in Independent cars?

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Because they can.

orchid shadow Mar 26, 2017, 10:01 AM

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From what i understand they helped write libgit for windows since they wanted to implment it into TFS.

wind elm Mar 26, 2017, 10:02 AM

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Microsoft ¯_(ツ)_/¯

scenic canopy Mar 26, 2017, 10:02 AM

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git existed for windows before microsoft started pouring resources into it

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it's just better integrated into visual studio now as a first class source repository like TFS

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they also offer hosted git through TFS

orchid shadow Mar 26, 2017, 10:04 AM

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Sure it did.

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And once again we come back to the thing that mikero statement is pure bullshit.

wind elm Mar 26, 2017, 10:05 AM

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Wich?

orchid shadow Mar 26, 2017, 10:07 AM

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mikero: git develepment was funded by micro$oft because they couldn't make money from svn. But if you believe in the tooth fairy, they did it because they like you. Like any crime, look for the motive. We now have githubs and cloud servers and all manner of marvellous money making ventures. They are actually useful. but the underlying protocol s worse than dogshit.(ändrad)

dawn palm Mar 26, 2017, 10:16 AM

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He can make himself look silly without your help Dscha. Do what most do, and ignore him.

orchid shadow Mar 26, 2017, 10:21 AM

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Right.

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Thats one way to go. :)

vague shard Mar 26, 2017, 11:01 AM

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what was the tool again to catch arma rpt/log output? (some old windows 3rd party tool)

dawn palm Mar 26, 2017, 11:03 AM

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why would you need one Q? if the rpt's being written anyway? or are you trying to get at the rpt, not the folder of rpts?

pearl beacon Mar 26, 2017, 11:20 AM

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Thank you head for making clear I am not not completely wrong about git history :p

hallow rapids Mar 26, 2017, 11:34 AM

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@vague shard baretails?

vague shard Mar 26, 2017, 11:53 AM

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@dawn palm can be useful to have a window next to the arma one showing the incoming spam (that one i am searching for had some filters ofc too)

dawn palm Mar 26, 2017, 11:53 AM

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ah a ha!

vague shard Mar 26, 2017, 11:53 AM

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@hallow rapids BareTail looks at least similar. ty

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there are a couple of rpt viewers, but these are all file based instead of stderr or to whatever the game streams it to

dawn palm Mar 26, 2017, 11:55 AM

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@vague shard. if you're thinking arma2, it only had to keep looking at THE rpt. now there's a different one, each game start. Am guessing what you want, isnt avail.

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no reason why not, it just has to monitor for create( any .rpt) and go from there.

orchid shadow Mar 26, 2017, 11:57 AM

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@pearl beacon 👍🏿

hallow rapids Mar 26, 2017, 12:10 PM

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@vague shard try SnakeTail instead, it's able to monitor the folder for new files and automatically replaces the old with the new file

nocturne basin Mar 26, 2017, 12:14 PM

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Not long @vague shard and that can be done within arma.studio

pearl beacon Mar 26, 2017, 1:02 PM

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what editor are you using, there is a high chance there is already some plugin for it 😛

glossy inlet Mar 26, 2017, 1:33 PM

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I'm using baretails If I need to watch RPT. But I very rarely need that :x The game doesn't stream much to stderr or stdout

pearl beacon Mar 26, 2017, 1:44 PM

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I use my Sublime plugin 😛

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combined with AutoRefresh

sick verge Mar 26, 2017, 1:55 PM

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@vague shard SQDev has a built in RPT-Viewer 😉

vague shard Mar 26, 2017, 2:12 PM

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thanks for the suggestions everyone. does any of these have regex based filtering?
(its not so much for myself, yet for our less technical team members)

sick verge Mar 26, 2017, 2:14 PM

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You mean searching for a Regex?

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If so SQDev does support it 😃

glossy inlet Mar 26, 2017, 2:24 PM

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My Server Management tool has Regex based filtering 😄 But you can't view RPT with that

sick verge Mar 26, 2017, 2:24 PM

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xD

thorn hawk Mar 26, 2017, 2:34 PM

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Hey there, we are working on a rcon library and server management tool in golang. There is still quite some work to do but check it out: https://github.com/PlayNet-Public/GoRcon-ArmA/tree/develop

native kiln Mar 26, 2017, 3:20 PM

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@thorn hawk Restart server over RCon?

thorn hawk Mar 26, 2017, 3:21 PM

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Yeah, was the first attempt by my collegue helping out... As I want the RCon feature to be optional for people just using the schedule I already got a branch here that sends a graceful sigterm to arma

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The whole Go Conformity is also very bad yet, but I had too much to do getting the rcon connection working... Such documentation, such a good protocol 😛

smoky halo Mar 26, 2017, 3:24 PM

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BE Rcon is not good protocol ;P

thorn hawk Mar 26, 2017, 3:26 PM

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Couldn't agree more

smoky halo Mar 26, 2017, 3:27 PM

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Doesn't respond to PING commands, doesn't complain when it receives packets outof order just silently ignores them.
Although you could keep sending the same packet number last i messed around with it, to avoid the outof order issue (just had the odd sideeffect)

It really should just be a TCP Protocol, not like there will be many rcon connections at once (i.e not much overhead).

thorn hawk Mar 26, 2017, 3:31 PM

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Thats why we are trying to offer a nice and extensible REST API with one of the future versions...
The most 'fun' thing I had while building the rcon lib was when i wanted to build reconnects... If the Server is up to fast (meaning in the start up process) it responds to the udp socket with timeouts and not with connection refused messages... This means that the udp socket is thinking "Hey all is fine, it's UDP he just has nothing to talk" but in fact the connection is dead and when the server is fully up both ignore eachother....
The so called workaround is now to count keepalive packets and received ack packes (0 data) and when a certain mismatch is reached the udp does a reconnect... Took me way too long to find this...

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I could tell you a udp joke, but you might not get it...

smoky halo Mar 26, 2017, 3:36 PM

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Looks nice, i would recommend an quick guide for users how to get it run windows + linux. Then throw up a forum post on arma forums

scenic berry Mar 26, 2017, 3:46 PM

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thats a bad joke 😛

thorn hawk Mar 26, 2017, 3:56 PM

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Yeah, but first I want to fix some last issues... Had one test session with a server yesterday and on windows it somehow messed up starting the mods (ignoring that my guess is their server was messed up) and I also still need some better approach for streaming the events and chats to the console...
But yes post and manual are wip... The Build Server is also building a debian package and pushing it to a repo so the setup on linux is no more than an apt install

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@scenic berry yeah, this whole thing made me google same more bad udp jokes 😛 But sadly we needed a working rcon interface to proceede with our BanList Project :/

nocturne basin Mar 26, 2017, 4:12 PM

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Ban list project?

thorn hawk Mar 26, 2017, 4:16 PM

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One of the projects we are working on is a more sophisticated and state of the art platform for multi game ban and whitelist management. There is a german project which is implemented very bad and very disliked for its politics and so on but we aim for a better and more community driven solution

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Imagine it as a server management interface with the ability to share and import bans from others based on a nice query language

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The dream of a self regulating system where no single instance is deciding who is good or bad

scenic berry Mar 26, 2017, 4:18 PM

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haha 😛 dont trust arma 😄

thorn hawk Mar 26, 2017, 4:19 PM

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Games in focus are minecraft, gmod, some wip games that are in discussions with the developers and of course arma/dayz

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I never did 😝 just dreams and visions

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oh and #recruiting 😉

karmic niche Mar 26, 2017, 4:29 PM

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Will you have some kind of server reputation system so that a bad admin that is having a bad day and banning everyone on his server doesn't impact those players on all the other servers?

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Bad admin or a hijacked admin account

sick verge Mar 26, 2017, 4:30 PM

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I think ppl should only get the "global ban status" when they are banned on two independent server...

karmic niche Mar 26, 2017, 4:31 PM

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Easy. Just run 2 servers and ban everyone on both of your servers 😃

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Independent? Okay, I can buy a cheap VM somewhere for 3eur/month just for the sake of "confirming" my bans

sick verge Mar 26, 2017, 4:32 PM

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Maybe checking the steamID of the admin as well?

thorn hawk Mar 26, 2017, 4:33 PM

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Nope, no global status... There are BanLists and you could import from them via a query language, we plan one global list where verified server can add but the system is you got your list and ban, if some other server makes his list public you can include it... Servers may also colaborate on lists but we don't want one central system deciding who is banned everywhere... We also got a "revision" system in our plan where players can 'fight' their bans and use the platform to discuss their bans etc... as is said, community driven

karmic niche Mar 26, 2017, 4:33 PM

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But then, when you have 1000 of servers in your um... community (?), you can't whitelist or blacklist every admin manually. You need to have an autmatic reputation system

sick verge Mar 26, 2017, 4:34 PM

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Seems legit ^^

scenic berry Mar 26, 2017, 4:48 PM

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imo shared ban lists across communities dont work. Different communities have different rules and a ban on one doesnt mean ban on another. And then theres the "bad admin bans" and the management needed to lift these bans,

thorn hawk Mar 26, 2017, 4:52 PM

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I just tried to describe the system in here, but it exceeded a reasonable message length...
But for the rules problem... This system is thought for hackers, script kiddies, cheating etc... and one dedicated section for stream snipers... but if a ban is about a certain rule break it should remain server internal (non published).
Of course there are always bad admin decissions etc... this is why there is a server/banlist verifiaction level... Servers need to ensure certain things before reaching certain levels and of course bans, servers and players can be rated by both others and an internal system doing risk analysis etc...
Meaning banlist imports usually only import bans based on a certain "quality rating" and if there is a server very badly rated with bans not true or not following the rules it might not be imported into other lists

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and as I said, a player is always able to fight his ban, discuss it with admins and also open a ticket through this process if no solution is found

vague shard Mar 27, 2017, 7:23 AM

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who was using again Jenkins for arma projects - ACE, RHS(?) - anyone else?

pearl beacon Mar 27, 2017, 7:50 AM

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ACRE

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ACE doesn't

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it'll all be a lot easier when armake is done...

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don't even need jenkins then, travis will be enough 😛

nocturne basin Mar 27, 2017, 8:28 AM

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loads of tools
all together we can create great things

scenic canopy Mar 27, 2017, 8:48 AM

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we're using Jenkins for SFP (Swedish Forces Pack); linting, packing and in game tests

pearl beacon Mar 27, 2017, 8:54 AM

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That's mostly just config though, right?

scenic canopy Mar 27, 2017, 9:03 AM

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configs, islands, lots and lots of models, a bunch of scripts

pearl beacon Mar 27, 2017, 9:55 AM

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Yeah

scenic canopy Mar 27, 2017, 11:03 AM

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armake has a lot of potential

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a decent PAA tool that works on non Windows platforms is really nice to have for starters

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or as a library for other tools

dawn palm Mar 27, 2017, 11:06 AM

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+1

scenic canopy Mar 27, 2017, 11:08 AM

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there are a lot of different tools today but not that many libraries to use

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so the fact that armake is open source is really nice

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and as it's written in C it should be quite easy to use as a library if you're creating a tool, regardless of what languages or frameworks being used

dawn palm Mar 27, 2017, 11:12 AM

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for 8 years my dll and it's source code was freely available on dev-heaven. So there's no argument here.

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The manw contest changed all that, and a3lifers re-inforced it.

scenic canopy Mar 27, 2017, 11:23 AM

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yeah, I still find references to it sometimes 😄

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would've been nice to have the derapify functionality for my virtual pbo fs, haven't tried to interface the dll files directly yet

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but the performance is not good enough yet for our build server usage anyway so I'm not puting that much effort into it

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but it's quite nice not having to unpack all arma 3 data every time arma 3 dev changes for local development 😄

dawn palm Mar 27, 2017, 11:25 AM

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i can provide you the api to hook into the dll any time you want it. free/subscriber compatible.

scenic canopy Mar 27, 2017, 12:02 PM

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I might take you up on that offer some day 😉

glossy inlet Mar 27, 2017, 12:21 PM

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I still have a copy of mikeros tools source from back then :3 That stuff get's rare with time

dawn palm Mar 27, 2017, 12:25 PM

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fyi it's not strictly true to refer to paa, it's paX. paa, and pac are treated identically by texview (and binarise) _except pac indexes which can only occur in pac. They are seldom used but exist. Pedantic yes, but tga->paa isn't the end game.

scenic canopy Mar 27, 2017, 12:28 PM

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yeah, lots of pac files when dealing with ofp

dawn palm Mar 27, 2017, 12:29 PM

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it wouldn't matter muchly. but .pac is the defautl extension for textures.

smoky halo Mar 27, 2017, 12:30 PM

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what is default in that context?

dawn palm Mar 27, 2017, 12:31 PM

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thingy=\some\file;

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all files in configs eg have default extensions. wss for sound pac for textures p3d for models

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which is where you get interesting ingame errrors such as can't findi sound..wss.wss because the engine assumes you've left off the extension so adds it.

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ditto texture.paa.pac

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the original and stil used file handler was a one stop shop, all file reqeusts went thru it, thus all files were compressible, all paramfile text was automatically binarised (if not binarised), all extensions had defaults applied to them. over time, the devs have short-circuited this mechanism, opening files directly. Thus you get mission.sqms that can't be binarised if in an addon, but work fine in mission pbo's because they still use the universal handler.

smoky halo Mar 27, 2017, 12:46 PM

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i c

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I think pac and paa was there ofp mechanism for textures with and w/o alpha

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I assume that a stands for alpha and c for color

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nowadays we have _ca, _co and a lot more

wind elm Mar 27, 2017, 12:47 PM

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Yeah, as you mentioned it..

dawn palm Mar 27, 2017, 12:48 PM

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we agreed on tht when we both analyzed pax for 'can't remember name'. you wrote most of the biki. well the parts which were right, anyway.

smoky halo Mar 27, 2017, 12:49 PM

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in the source code a paa just sets IsAlpha property to true. otherwise there is no difference afaict

dawn palm Mar 27, 2017, 12:50 PM

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agreed. and the pac extension itself can contain the above content regardless.

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eg simple rename, 'works' the same.

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but _ca, co etc wouldn't be relevant to this. that's a function of the text table in tools\some\where (the thing that defines how to construct nohq eg)

smoky halo Mar 27, 2017, 12:59 PM

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true

wide cedar Mar 27, 2017, 1:00 PM

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i think a lot of that kind of baggage can be discarded

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i haven't seen someone use a pac in a project ever

wind elm Mar 27, 2017, 1:00 PM

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We (AEF - 2004) used one .pac 😄

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Rest was .paa

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(Yeah, i just downloaded the old files, to check it)

smoky halo Mar 27, 2017, 1:01 PM

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yeah, BIS source code has a lot of old baggage to carry

dawn palm Mar 27, 2017, 1:03 PM

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for generating new paX yes, it could be ignored, but backward compatibility is important to me, and there's that odd quirk of default fle extension which doesn't matter muchly.

wide cedar Mar 27, 2017, 1:05 PM

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that's true, decoders should ideally support all possible format variations

dawn palm Mar 27, 2017, 1:05 PM

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we had zero choice in the matter when creating cwr1 & 2

wide cedar Mar 27, 2017, 1:06 PM

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i'll probably wait with implementing more image codecs in my paa decoder until someone complains :p

dawn palm Mar 27, 2017, 1:06 PM

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haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

smoky halo Mar 27, 2017, 1:06 PM

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complain

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I want to have palette encoding 😄

dawn palm Mar 27, 2017, 1:07 PM

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i want to come and live on the same planet as you, with NO complaints starting with' why doesn't it work', followed by your tool is ratshit.

scenic canopy Mar 27, 2017, 1:08 PM

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😃

wide cedar Mar 27, 2017, 1:09 PM

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that's where the beauty of open source comes in. just tell them to make a pull request 😉

dawn palm Mar 27, 2017, 1:09 PM

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so they can fix it themselves....

scenic canopy Mar 27, 2017, 1:10 PM

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I guess that also depends if you want people to use your tool too 😄

dawn palm Mar 27, 2017, 1:10 PM

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I sure as hell wish some people didn't.

scenic canopy Mar 27, 2017, 1:11 PM

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well, that might get rid of naggers, that's true 😄

dawn palm Mar 27, 2017, 1:14 PM

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yeah, i've black listed tim dittmar, who shall remain nameless, but he finds ways round that.

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the bugger keeps finding 'undocumented features'

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and his sense of humor is awful. he keeps pasting me c# code, knowing full well, i can't read it.

wind elm Mar 27, 2017, 1:21 PM

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🤦

dawn palm Mar 27, 2017, 1:25 PM

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I blame his mother.

smoky halo Mar 27, 2017, 2:00 PM

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😶

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get glasses 😛

dawn palm Mar 27, 2017, 2:09 PM

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😎 there!

smoky halo Mar 27, 2017, 2:12 PM

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😂

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mike, do you still offer model.cfg extraction?

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from odol

dawn palm Mar 27, 2017, 2:13 PM

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yes. it's "there" in eliteness subscriber and free

smoky halo Mar 27, 2017, 2:13 PM

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k

dawn palm Mar 27, 2017, 2:14 PM

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dep3d -Es or -Em

smoky halo Mar 27, 2017, 2:15 PM

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want to check the quality 😈

dawn palm Mar 27, 2017, 2:15 PM

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shit

smoky halo Mar 27, 2017, 2:34 PM

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you do not do CfgModels?

dawn palm Mar 27, 2017, 2:37 PM

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can't imagine why you think that i don't

smoky halo Mar 27, 2017, 2:40 PM

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or only if there are anims?

dawn palm Mar 27, 2017, 2:40 PM

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if there's no skeleton, there is no cfgModels

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there are no bones to animate.

smoky halo Mar 27, 2017, 2:41 PM

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i looked at a model with bines but no anims. that's why I did not get CfgModels

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but I still get CfgSkeletons if there is nothing so...inconsistent!

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😛

dawn palm Mar 27, 2017, 2:43 PM

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not in the subscriber version. no skeleton = no cfgSkeleton

smoky halo Mar 27, 2017, 2:45 PM

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mkay

dawn palm Mar 27, 2017, 2:46 PM

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bridges eg, can have a skeleton, but typically no cfgModel class (Planck or Mondkalb's bridges eg) (lights)

smoky halo Mar 27, 2017, 2:48 PM

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how does it get baked in then? CfgModels contains the p3d name

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I mean I know a way but do you? ^^

dawn palm Mar 27, 2017, 2:49 PM

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class NameOfModel
{
// nada
};

#

class cwr3_most_stred30
{
sectionsInherit="";
skeletonName = "cwr3_Noe_bridge_skeleton";
sections[] = {};
class Animations {};
};

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.. and typically in a config.cpp
class Destruction
{
animations[]=
{
{THIS_PBO\rtms\most_pad_01.rtm,0.2,17},
{THIS_PBO\rtms\most_pad_02.rtm,0.2,17},
{THIS_PBO\rtms\most_pad_03.rtm,0.2,17},
{THIS_PBO\rtms\most_pad_04.rtm,0.2,17},
{THIS_PBO\rtms\most_pad_05.rtm,0.2,17}
};
};

scenic canopy Mar 27, 2017, 3:06 PM

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heh, regarding having libraries in C, https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2017/03/27/curl-is-c/

thorn hawk Mar 27, 2017, 8:06 PM

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Any one familiar with these little web injection fu***rs
Looks like we might need to build a solution against this before they get online...

smoky halo Mar 27, 2017, 8:09 PM

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That method of hack been online for abit already. If you look at thier twitter feed, it appears BE already been banning people using it

glossy inlet Mar 27, 2017, 8:12 PM

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I also got reports of people using that getting banned

elfin oxide Mar 27, 2017, 8:27 PM

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Be has been banning them, Bi knows about it since its frist day of launch. There is nothing to take care of on our side anyway. Networking is way out of our hands. Also posting a link to their website is a nice promotion for them. @thorn hawk >.>

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But if someone has problems with them ,just get anything to detect vpns, there are apis for it and tools to block them off. That beats its user afaik

thorn hawk Mar 27, 2017, 8:35 PM

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I wouldn't say it is completely out of our hands, i could think of several aproaches to fight this... As you said detection mechanisms that are already out there and talked about in several scientific papers...
The thing I want to say, if we want to mess with these people we got to find good solutions that can be easily used and distributed to others...
A community solution, OpenSource and built in collaboration at best.

fallen stone Mar 27, 2017, 9:29 PM

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It seems the popular web injector at the moment is detected, and moving over to a private cheat

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Two detections in two weeks. Didn't last long

nocturne basin Mar 27, 2017, 9:33 PM

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web injector?

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ArmA + webinjector Oo

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anything i missed?

thorn hawk Mar 27, 2017, 9:50 PM

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Yeah, I was surprised too but somebody just told me about that and I needed to ask if somebody is already on this... Couldn't think of BE Detection (sorry guys 😛 )

native kiln Mar 27, 2017, 9:55 PM

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i hope bastian has a yearly subscription for dankhax

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😄

rotund rampart Mar 28, 2017, 2:47 PM

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I've released tabler v0.7.0:
https://forums.bistudio.com/forums/topic/170780-tabler-arma-3-translation-helper/

Bohemia Interactive Forums

tabler - Arma 3 Translation Helper

tabler - Arma 3 Translation Helper I'd like to present to you a new tool I'm working on. It emerged from the need to translate a lot of modules of an Arm...

hallow rapids Mar 28, 2017, 2:50 PM

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nice 😃

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needs a screenshot though

rotund rampart Mar 28, 2017, 3:07 PM

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You're absolutely right

dawn palm Mar 28, 2017, 3:39 PM

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very nice initiative. sorely needed.

orchid shadow Mar 28, 2017, 5:00 PM

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@rotund rampart nice work

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Reminds me that i need to do that update for swifty

rotund rampart Mar 28, 2017, 5:34 PM

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And there it is

ornate wasp Mar 28, 2017, 6:21 PM

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Yea well, I search 2 hours about my (grave) mistake and then Visual Studio tells me after 3 seconds of debugging the A3 process -.-' https://armitxes.net/media/VS2017DebugArmiNET.PNG yet some kind of amazing 😐

glossy inlet Mar 28, 2017, 6:52 PM

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That's what debuggers are for...

native kiln Mar 28, 2017, 8:26 PM

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What's that project you're working on?

smoky halo Mar 29, 2017, 1:29 PM

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Weird question, but has anyone made a program for making dialogs ?

wind elm Mar 29, 2017, 1:30 PM

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Editor -> Esc -> GUI Editor -> gl hf

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Externals, no clue. @nocturne basin started doing one, but abandoned it.

scenic canopy Mar 29, 2017, 1:31 PM

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https://forums.bistudio.com/forums/topic/191187-alpha-arma-ui-editor-the-future-of-ui-editing-in-arma/

nocturne basin Mar 29, 2017, 1:32 PM

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Not abandoned @wind elm
That is what arma.studio actually evolved from

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Was supposed to get the new version

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But cleaned up

smoky halo Mar 29, 2017, 1:35 PM

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@scenic canopy ohh this is spicy

wind elm Mar 29, 2017, 1:35 PM

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Is it possible to open Altis life Hpp in this tool?```
lulz

dawn palm Mar 30, 2017, 5:20 AM

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update to subscriber dll

nice little fix to variants of $pboPrefix$.txt You use this file to bake more properties into the pbo (and it's the only way you can make a genuine arma 3 pbo).

credit: vipermaul

woeful cliff Mar 30, 2017, 2:37 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66nPEGjzxI8

orchid shadow Mar 30, 2017, 2:44 PM

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Man you really need to stop teaasing thnis shit and release it ;D

wide cedar Mar 30, 2017, 3:02 PM

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does it have a vim mode? :p

vague shard Mar 30, 2017, 3:05 PM

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HTC Vive - ReVive - Robo Recall

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from his YT

pearl beacon Mar 30, 2017, 3:05 PM

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pretty nice gameplay too 😛

vague shard Mar 30, 2017, 3:05 PM

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doesnt help with his productivity i guess

woeful cliff Mar 30, 2017, 3:35 PM

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@pearl beacon I know, right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVQoozk_FIE 0:10 to 0:46 xD

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@vague shard Actually, it does

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@wide cedar Vim mode?

wide cedar Mar 30, 2017, 3:39 PM

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i was being facetious, but i was referring to something like evil mode in emacs or any of the various plugins for eclipse, that allow you to use vi(m) controls to edit text

sick verge Mar 30, 2017, 4:57 PM

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@woeful cliff Is this a different program than the "ArmA.studio" X39 is developing?

karmic niche Mar 30, 2017, 4:59 PM

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Yes

sick verge Mar 30, 2017, 5:00 PM

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Okay... I was a little confused because of the name xD

karmic niche Mar 30, 2017, 5:02 PM

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I realize you can't always merge two programs into one but it's still sad to see two people working on roughly the same thing... separately

sick verge Mar 30, 2017, 5:02 PM

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Yeah true that

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Generally there are way too many seperate attempts to achieve this (me included)

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Would be awesome if we all could work together on that

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But the problem is that there is no universal way to specify the functionality so it will work in every environment (either as a plugin or Stand-alone) so as everyone prefers a different editor everyone has to code it himself...

glossy inlet Mar 30, 2017, 5:18 PM

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I also don't really like the decision to name our project almost the same as one already existing but not my decision. I'd also prefer there to be one universal tool.
And Arma Studio is aiming to be that tool. Either X39's or MulleDK19's. But I was waiting for over a year for ARMA STUDIO 2016 to get released and usable.
As I found out that I and X39 could build the same and make it open-source and available within a few weeks I didn't want to wait any longer.

Additonally when we started with ArmA.Studio MulleDK19 has been quiet for about a year and no trace that ARMA STUDIO 2016 was still in development.

hallow rapids Mar 30, 2017, 5:49 PM

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ahh that explains things.. was quite confused that there weren't any commits by MulleDK19 on X39's repo yet he was showing all kinds of stuff 😛

vague shard Mar 30, 2017, 5:57 PM

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from A3 tools settings.ini

; Use the diagnostic executable to install Buldozer? (development branch of the game only)
P_DriveDiagExe=0

did anyone check if using the diag.exe has any relevance for Buldozer?

smoky halo Mar 30, 2017, 6:39 PM

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didn't load for me sadly...

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otherwise it could have some neat tools

woeful cliff Mar 30, 2017, 7:35 PM

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@orchid shadow It's not ready for the public just yet

orchid shadow Mar 30, 2017, 7:36 PM

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Teaseing

meager falcon Mar 30, 2017, 9:23 PM

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ohh my... why does callExtension stringify strings once more -.-'

smoky halo Mar 30, 2017, 11:09 PM

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?

native kiln Mar 30, 2017, 11:14 PM

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@meager falcon But it doesn't

smoky halo Mar 30, 2017, 11:23 PM

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I assume you mean str esacping quotations.

meager falcon Mar 30, 2017, 11:25 PM

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the args array of the new syntax gets aditional quotations if a string is in there

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the quotation marks are escaped and added just like str(_string) does

dawn palm Mar 30, 2017, 11:32 PM

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i don't know much about sqf but it would make sense to me if

hello "there" widget

gets transformed to

"hello ""there"" widget"

or alternatively

"hello 'there' widget"

meager falcon Mar 30, 2017, 11:35 PM

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no its just "init" gets ""init""

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and stuff like that

dawn palm Mar 30, 2017, 11:37 PM

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which (in my understanding) is fair enough. you are quoting quotes

meager falcon Mar 30, 2017, 11:37 PM

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and this makes no sense due to the args are listed in an array

dawn palm Mar 30, 2017, 11:37 PM

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ok. i follow that too.

meager falcon Mar 30, 2017, 11:38 PM

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I mean, if you get a quoted string this would be all fine (as you already said), but yeah.. this just adds "" around each string

dawn palm Mar 30, 2017, 11:40 PM

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the purpose of doing so is to prevent a "label" being misinterpreted by a #define, or alternatively as a command.

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again, in my ignorance, i would say that "init" itself is wrong to start with.

meager falcon Mar 30, 2017, 11:40 PM

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just an example

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dunno if you got that wrong, its:
_string = "1234";
callExt ["blah",[_string]] ;

cout << args[0] will return: "1234" instead of just 1234

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and thats not because it suddenly gets a number

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its the very same string, just always wrapped in extra ""

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I would assume (since that the behavious of str) the args are just str(args) delete "[" and "]" then splitstring ","

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well, I'll just go with the old syntax

dawn palm Mar 30, 2017, 11:53 PM

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i hope you meant args[1] 😎

smoky halo Mar 30, 2017, 11:55 PM

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callExt ["blah","1234",1234] ;
args[0] should be "blah"
args[1] should be "1234"
args[2] should be 1234

Aleast that how it should work ;P
But i have avoided it for now

dawn palm Mar 30, 2017, 11:58 PM

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they will indeed be as described above, it's a question here of how cout<< behaves. and it's behaving literallly.

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there are only three types of var in the bis world, a numeric value, a string , or an array name

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1234 gets parsed and stored as a numeric for subsequent processing. all others are text, and quotes ensure, text

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#define blah 98765
callExt ["blah".... ensures that define is never 'seen'

glossy inlet Mar 31, 2017, 12:59 AM

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Problem is there would be no other way to distinguish between strings and numbers if you would remove the quotes. So the quotes are required. I see your problem. I would also prefer it without the quotes as in the end you don't want the quotes anyway. But BI has decided to implement such a "simple" system instead of passing a variable type and a generic pointer like

struct {
    enum {
        string, number,isThereEvenAnythingElse
    } type;
    union {
        const char* string;
        float number;
    } value;
}

Which I would have preferred but it's too late now.

woeful cliff Mar 31, 2017, 1:02 AM

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Added a simple obfuscation button. 'cause why not? lol

original:

_a = (1+2+3+4+5);
_b = (5+4+3+2+1);
_c = _a + _b;
_d = str _c;
hint _d;```

obfuscated:
```sqf
_ca1={3}else{4};
_ca2={5}else{"TROLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL"};
_ca0={1}else{2};
_ = (call{call{call{call{(call (_ca0 select 0)) + (call (_ca0 select 1))} + (call (_ca1 select 0))} + (call (_ca1 select 1))} + (call (_ca2 select 0))});
__ = (call{call{call{call{(call (_ca2 select 0)) + (call (_ca1 select 1))} + (call (_ca1 select 0))} + (call (_ca0 select 1))} + (call (_ca0 select 0))});
___ = call{_ + __};
____ = call{ str ___};
call{ hint ____};```

glossy inlet Mar 31, 2017, 1:07 AM

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I prefer Mikeros PBO obfuscation.. It atleast doesn't kill performance

woeful cliff Mar 31, 2017, 1:15 AM

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Well, clearly, it's not meant for performance

native kiln Mar 31, 2017, 1:34 AM

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@woeful cliff Just say it increases performance by -20%

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and everyone will think thats good

dawn palm Mar 31, 2017, 2:36 AM

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haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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no other way to distinguish between strings and numbers

it gets far far better than that.

"text" defeats all subsequent processing (parsing). consequently

say player
and
say str(player)

are two different animals

i've discounted _variables and introduced str() to illustrate it's value

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the reason why "hello ""this"" world" looks so strange to the eye, is the bis parser treats it as three separate chunks, (in this case, text)

"hello " // do not alter +
"this" // do not alter +
" world" // do not alter

note above, that the double rabbits ears ("") dissapear and make much more contextual sense.

meager falcon Mar 31, 2017, 7:07 AM

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@dawn palm nah thats not the right syntax

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the new syntax would be:

string1 callExtension [string2,array]

where string2 is the function param
and array is really an array of anything which get converted to strings

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string2 and array are then available in the extension by
const char *function, const char **args
which is why I referred to args[0]

dawn palm Mar 31, 2017, 7:11 AM

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ok.

meager falcon Mar 31, 2017, 7:12 AM

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so if array looks like this: ["1234"], in the extension you will get this [""1234""]

dawn palm Mar 31, 2017, 7:12 AM

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oh wow

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ouch

meager falcon Mar 31, 2017, 7:13 AM

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or in general
so if array looks like this: [anything1,anything2,anything3], in the extension you will get this [str anything1, str anything2, str anything3] (in terms of sqf)

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sorry for my kinda unclear explaination above

dawn palm Mar 31, 2017, 7:14 AM

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well it was me misinterpreting where you were at.

meager falcon Mar 31, 2017, 7:14 AM

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no problem

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however, since this adds the need for checking each param for "" in the start/end, it kinda ruins the gains in the first place ^^

dawn palm Mar 31, 2017, 7:16 AM

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my opinion, for what it's worth is if the array element itself contains ""anything"" it's plain wrong.

meager falcon Mar 31, 2017, 7:17 AM

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well the conversion to strings would be easy enough, dunno why the made this autoconversion

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they could have just stated array of strings

dawn palm Mar 31, 2017, 7:17 AM

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a passed value into a c call should be raw data. it's up to c, to handle it how it wants.

meager falcon Mar 31, 2017, 7:18 AM

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I assume everyone who works directly with extensions to be smart enough to get this

dawn palm Mar 31, 2017, 7:18 AM

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ahhh yes, ok.

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the declaration is (char * , char *)

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but really that seems dumb to be, it would make sense to be void* void*

meager falcon Mar 31, 2017, 7:19 AM

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second one is actually char ** 😛

dawn palm Mar 31, 2017, 7:20 AM

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yes.. sorry, thinking out loud

meager falcon Mar 31, 2017, 7:20 AM

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no problem

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I mean this could even be checked on a script level, so I dont get the point of the autoconversion

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or at least the string autoconversion

dawn palm Mar 31, 2017, 7:23 AM

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well char * is just a label, it isn't necessarily a string at at all, as evidenceed by the function name, so i don't see the point either.

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it must be something to do with how they have to build the array before they pass it to you.

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[mikero is way out of his depth]

meager falcon Mar 31, 2017, 7:27 AM

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^^

dawn palm Mar 31, 2017, 7:34 AM

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i dont even follow the logic of why "blah" has to be quoted.

and i would never be able to follow the logic if the following happened:

_string=hello;

and arg[0] was NOT "hello" as a result

meager falcon Mar 31, 2017, 7:35 AM

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well since _string=hello wouldnt work

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hello would then be another variable

dawn palm Mar 31, 2017, 7:51 AM

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ok. then it doubly doesm't make sense to dblQuoute what can only be a string!

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[mikero remembers why he won't go near this stuff]

meager falcon Mar 31, 2017, 7:53 AM

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Yep.. stuff like this really makes you happy

orchid shadow Mar 31, 2017, 8:25 AM

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The double quations is because they use str

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str "ape" is ""ape""

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Should properly have read the entire thing.

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Since it was already brought up.

wind elm Mar 31, 2017, 8:26 AM

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👏

orchid shadow Mar 31, 2017, 8:27 AM

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Clap yourself 👏🏿

wind elm Mar 31, 2017, 8:27 AM

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🍌 ?

orchid shadow Mar 31, 2017, 8:27 AM

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☕ !

wind elm Mar 31, 2017, 8:27 AM

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🍎 ❓

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(okay, enough spam)

orchid shadow Mar 31, 2017, 8:32 AM

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If only we could stop.

wind elm Mar 31, 2017, 8:33 AM

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🕵

wise dawn Mar 31, 2017, 9:21 PM

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Does anyone know about the lastest version of arma 3 tool deleting the SVN feature in TB

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Or is there a way to get the feature back or of any alternatives

elfin oxide Mar 31, 2017, 9:32 PM

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the SVN feature?

wise dawn Mar 31, 2017, 9:52 PM

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The ability to save a TB build onto a server in a diffrent directory. Excellent for github

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Or multiple people working ojn one file

elfin oxide Mar 31, 2017, 10:04 PM

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a TB?

glossy inlet Mar 31, 2017, 10:05 PM

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Terrain builder

wise dawn Mar 31, 2017, 10:18 PM

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Yeah for Terrain Builder, Since the update this afternoon its stopped working and says its not there anymore.

woeful cliff Apr 1, 2017, 4:53 PM

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So... The game's preprocessor doesn't support nested directives. Well, that makes it a whole lot easier for me

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Hmpf. It's even more half assed than I thought. If a definition is not defined in an #ifdef it removes what's inbetween, without adding line directives, so whatever is after will report incorrect line numbers on error

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lawl, if you include a dummy file after the #endif, that inclusion will add a correct #line directive that'll allow you to see the correct line numbers

glossy inlet Apr 1, 2017, 5:26 PM

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If you have a #include after a multiline comment it will also forget that comment was there when doing the #line directives. Thats why a ton of CBA and ACE scripts report wrong line numbers for errors :/. That may be influenced by the content of the included file. I only checked with the CBA macro include

woeful cliff Apr 1, 2017, 9:13 PM

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@glossy inlet It sure could use an update

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Original:

// Nested test.
#define ONE
#define TWO

#ifdef ONE
#ifndef TWO
hint "EXCLUDED";
#endif
#endif
hint "INCLUDED";```

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Game's preprocessor

#line 1 "C:\Users\mulle\Documents\Arma 3\missions\ARMAStudioPreprocessing.Tanoa\NestedDirectives.sqf"







hint "INCLUDED";```

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My preprocessor

#line 10 "C:\Users\mulle\Documents\Arma 3\missions\ARMAStudioPreprocessing.Tanoa\NestedDirectives.sqf"
hint "INCLUDED";```

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The game's preprocessor puts the hint on line 8, while it is in fact on line 10

dawn palm Apr 1, 2017, 9:15 PM

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it gets a bit more perverse

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#ifndef ONE
#ifdef TWO

works

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as i recall.

woeful cliff Apr 1, 2017, 9:16 PM

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actually, it works with #ifdef #ifndef

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the other way around, it outputs an empty string

dawn palm Apr 1, 2017, 9:16 PM

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yeah ok. some combinations do, some dont' and I long ago threw it out the window

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even was naive enough to raise a ticket. when i was young and stupid

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I wrongly assumed bis gave a sh*t

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needless to say, my tools handle it correctly, but under some circumstances, that's not particlarly useful.

smoky halo Apr 1, 2017, 10:04 PM

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lol, preprocess code is partly in czech

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small parts though

dawn palm Apr 1, 2017, 10:10 PM

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that's probably the part that works

glossy inlet Apr 1, 2017, 10:21 PM

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The preproc is back from OFP times so.. Yeah.. could use a rework

meager falcon Apr 1, 2017, 10:29 PM

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Dont fix whats not broken, especially not OFP stuff

glossy inlet Apr 1, 2017, 10:30 PM

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But.. It is broken

meager falcon Apr 1, 2017, 10:35 PM

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if it was just about that we would have AI actually driving on roads, going through doors instead of walls and so on

dawn palm Apr 1, 2017, 10:36 PM

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Dont fix whats not broken, especially not OFP stuff
fortunately, they don't understand that part of the code, so don't code near it.

meager falcon Apr 2, 2017, 2:35 PM

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thats exactly the reason why I said it ^^

rotund rampart Apr 2, 2017, 6:41 PM

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@dawn palm What does that mean?

no config found in pbo!!!```

glossy inlet Apr 2, 2017, 6:43 PM

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Does the Pbo you're packing have a config? :X

rotund rampart Apr 2, 2017, 6:43 PM

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of course

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guess I found the error. I had a rapwarning in the log file. A typo in a path to a .paa file. After fixing the typo the build worked

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that error isn't a very descriptive one

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(to me at least)

wide cedar Apr 2, 2017, 8:47 PM

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Is there a way to get older versions of binarize.exe?

smoky halo Apr 2, 2017, 8:52 PM

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a specific or just an older one?

glossy inlet Apr 2, 2017, 8:54 PM

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I have a backup of 1.63.137490

dawn palm Apr 2, 2017, 9:59 PM

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@rotund rampart. the wording was changed in subscriber versions with more detail

rotund rampart Apr 2, 2017, 10:11 PM

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👍

sinful crescent Apr 2, 2017, 10:51 PM

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when you have the manifestid you can use steamcmd to download old versions from steam - manifestids for the arma 3 tools depot: https://steamdb.info/depot/233801/manifests/

vague shard Apr 3, 2017, 11:16 AM

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@sinful crescent is this true for any steam data? or what are the restrictions or limitations?

sinful crescent Apr 3, 2017, 11:57 AM

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@vague shard I've only used it for the arma 3 tools, arma 3 linux dedi binary and the arma 3 digital langs depots - but I guess it's enough when you own one of the packages the depot is included with and when you know the specific manifestid (and appid & depotid) - encrypted ids (e.g. for passworded branches) won't work - so probably dlc won't work neither

vague shard Apr 3, 2017, 12:01 PM

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@sinful crescent thanks! any idea how the PW protected legacy branches play into this - are they new ids or just older with pw applied or different altogether?

hallow rapids Apr 3, 2017, 1:16 PM

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@wide cedar it would be nice if sudo make install for armake would default to /usr/local/bin/ instead of /usr/bin/

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not a big deal but you know, specs 😛

wide cedar Apr 3, 2017, 1:17 PM

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yeah, that's on my list

sinful crescent Apr 3, 2017, 1:19 PM

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@vague shard I have no idea

hallow rapids Apr 3, 2017, 1:20 PM

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like the unix-y commands though 👍

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e.g. armake unpack etc 😃

woeful cliff Apr 3, 2017, 10:25 PM

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What constitutes a veteran?

glossy inlet Apr 3, 2017, 11:02 PM

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constelation of stars, my mood and good roll on dice "my" being Dwarden

woeful cliff Apr 3, 2017, 11:50 PM

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So basically.. it means absolutely nothing

nocturne basin Apr 4, 2017, 12:01 AM

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means you can get away with a little bit more fuckup and got access to other discord stuff like embedded links or voting

smoky halo Apr 4, 2017, 12:12 AM

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i can vote or create votes?

nocturne basin Apr 4, 2017, 12:13 AM

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the 3 lil dots to the right

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"add reaction" or somethign like that

smoky halo Apr 4, 2017, 12:20 AM

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you call that voting?

nocturne basin Apr 4, 2017, 12:21 AM

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upvoting a post for example

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you also can pick any other emojie you like

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that is something non-vets are not able to do

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per default, however, this is enabled on all discord servers (just like embedded links are)

fallen stone Apr 4, 2017, 1:56 AM

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Yep, Dwarden big fun sponge 😠

woeful cliff Apr 4, 2017, 2:44 AM

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@nocturne basin That's one of the things I hate about this server. It takes away all the things that makes Discord better than IRC

wind elm Apr 4, 2017, 6:14 AM

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Yeah, what a shame

elfin oxide Apr 4, 2017, 6:27 AM

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A goup that makes your name blue? God dammit I can not live without it. Dwarden plz fix

onyx lion Apr 4, 2017, 7:13 AM

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anyone tried to analyze arma crash files (mdmp) with WinDBG or VisualStudio yet? is it pointless to try or some chance to get meaningful info from that?

dawn palm Apr 4, 2017, 7:33 AM

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you need the source code to do step and trace (and breakpoints)

elfin oxide Apr 4, 2017, 7:36 AM

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@onyx lion from what I know only BI employees with access to the overall RVEngine src can track down what happended there. But Dwarden seems to always be exited if you can give him crash dumps from one of his performace executables >.> 😄

wind elm Apr 4, 2017, 8:15 AM

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Already send, dang stuff

onyx lion Apr 4, 2017, 8:58 AM

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well BI is getting to much crashes with the 64 build, so they decided to deflect some on "its the mod" fault 😃

wind elm Apr 4, 2017, 8:59 AM

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^^

pearl beacon Apr 4, 2017, 9:08 AM

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yes they are

rugged needle Apr 4, 2017, 9:12 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/279194352490905600/298746133113733120/unknown.png hey guys im having trouble opening mikeros pbo project, i keep getting this error, ive reinstalled it + the vc redists multiple times but no avail, any ideas? also im not sure if this the right thread so if not sorry 😛

orchid shadow Apr 4, 2017, 9:15 AM

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You hid the good stuff.

vague shard Apr 4, 2017, 9:15 AM

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@rugged needle mismatch of dll and exe version i think

wind elm Apr 4, 2017, 9:15 AM

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like the not legal version of Win7 notification 😄
"This copy of Windows is not genuine" tztztz

orchid shadow Apr 4, 2017, 9:16 AM

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Like all them "legal" games on the desktop

wind elm Apr 4, 2017, 9:16 AM

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hehe

orchid shadow Apr 4, 2017, 9:16 AM

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Also what @vague shard said

rugged needle Apr 4, 2017, 9:17 AM

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😛 95% of those apps are legit lol but ill admit yeah windows isnt so im guessing its thats the problem.... sigh time to actually buy windows haha

wind elm Apr 4, 2017, 9:18 AM

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Win7 Ulti - often 15-20€

pearl beacon Apr 4, 2017, 9:18 AM

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be a student, get it for free 😛

rugged needle Apr 4, 2017, 9:19 AM

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i bloody wish i was a student the amount the amount of stuff they get for free, well serves me right for being a dirty pirate thanks anyway guys

pearl beacon Apr 4, 2017, 9:22 AM

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Either you are a student and get it for free, or have a job and you can buy it :p

rugged needle Apr 4, 2017, 9:23 AM

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im buying it now, im just lazy

pearl beacon Apr 4, 2017, 9:23 AM

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:p

dawn palm Apr 4, 2017, 9:53 AM

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ive reinstalled it + the vc redists multiple times but no avail

as others have noted, you have a mistmatch with a dll from god-knows-where, and the exe you were trying to use. again, from some other godfosaken hole in the ground.

vc redists are no longer necessary (but do no harm)

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just simply grab the bundle of free tools with self installaers from here:

https://dev.withsix.com/projects/mikero-pbodll/files

vague shard Apr 4, 2017, 11:15 AM

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anyone with insights or experience with rewriting git's commit history? more specifically i want to move the AIO and extracted A3 data to github, preserved its history but drop everything else from the repo

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i guess a smarter approach is to get all revisions of the desired folder tree, check them out one by one and apply them to a new repo in an automated process

hallow rapids Apr 4, 2017, 11:36 AM

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I think you can delete all the unwanted files and wipe them from history

vague shard Apr 4, 2017, 11:36 AM

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or this http://dalibornasevic.com/posts/2-permanently-remove-files-and-folders-from-a-git-repository

Dalibor Nasevic

Permanently remove files and folders from Git repo

Overriding Git history and permanently removing files and folders from Git repository.

hallow rapids Apr 4, 2017, 11:40 AM

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wouldn't mind the smaller size since it's 1.3gb at the moment 😛

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unpacked that is

glossy inlet Apr 4, 2017, 2:30 PM

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I can analyze Arma crashdumps.. But it's tedious and takes a lot of time. I'm basically doing everything manually what the PDB and Debugger would resolve for me.
Basically.. It takes maybe 20 seconds for a BI dev. And an hour for me to get the same information

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Unpacked A3 data on Github? I hope you only mean scripts and configs 😮

hallow rapids Apr 4, 2017, 3:25 PM

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nah full engine source 😁

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but yes

glossy inlet Apr 4, 2017, 3:27 PM

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Cuz Textures and Models would be bad

hallow rapids Apr 4, 2017, 3:28 PM

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but that 1.3gb is for all BI games

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the repo that kju maintains

woeful cliff Apr 4, 2017, 9:13 PM

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@orchid shadow Too n00b friendly? http://i.imgur.com/CftO2YA.png

thorn hawk Apr 4, 2017, 11:40 PM

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There you go! Finally a first working demo of GoRcon-ArmA (a RCon tool and Server Watcher/Scheduler built with Golang): https://asciinema.org/a/ad2cfxrvfx75bar9ie5udfhdf

fallen stone Apr 5, 2017, 1:42 AM

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You have alooooooot of commands to write snippets for 😄

woeful cliff Apr 5, 2017, 2:06 AM

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@fallen stone Are you talking to me?

fallen stone Apr 5, 2017, 2:40 AM

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Yeh 😛 @woeful cliff

spice current Apr 5, 2017, 5:39 AM

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@dawn palm could you possibly add an error check for already binarized rvmats into pboproject? currently it just gets stuck on bis binarize without any logs or anything

dawn palm Apr 5, 2017, 7:57 AM

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ah yes, binarise isn't smart enough to detect the thing's already binarised. Worse, it's too damn stupid to know that i've already provided the output into p:\temp. Originally binarise checked datestamps and ignored the earliest, but bis managed to break it.

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It will take some work to code in rvamt removals. eg like p3ds and rtms, i'll have to temporarily move them out of the way so that binarise can't see them..

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My code already spends about 40% of it's crunching power checking on things binarise will screw up.

sick verge Apr 5, 2017, 10:09 AM

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I have updated my SQDev plugin to version 0.7.2 which further improves the live SQF-Syntax-Check

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See https://forums.bistudio.com/forums/topic/202181-sqdev-sqf-developing-in-eclipse/?do=findComment&comment=3172973 for more information

pliant lynx Apr 7, 2017, 9:50 PM

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added PMC Editing Wiki mirror for Mikero free tools:
http://pmc.editing.wiki/doku.php?id=arma3:tools:mikero-tools

smoky halo Apr 10, 2017, 6:25 PM

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Hey! I´ve just continued working with blender. My problem is that the Export to .p3d with Mikeros Toolbox isnt working no more. I got the current Blender (Steam Version 2.78) installed, also reinstalled the current Toolbox again. Still not working with the following error :/ AttributeError: "NoneType" object has no attribute "armaMatProps" Aswell as the following ones. http://fs5.directupload.net/images/170410/ryskwmej.png Thanks for helping! (Also hoping i got the right channel) 😃

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Also, I think Ive had the same error before, simply cant remember how i solved this one. (I restarded my PC aswell as Steam and as Ive already mentioned reinstalled the Toolbox)

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What I forgot to mention, the error only appears on one file, others are working just fine...

vague shard Apr 10, 2017, 7:05 PM

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contact Alwarren via DM or this forum thread

pearl beacon Apr 10, 2017, 7:07 PM

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it's Alwarren's toolbox, not mikero's 😛

dawn palm Apr 11, 2017, 12:21 AM

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hey! I never mind taking the credit for some-one else's hard work.

smoky halo Apr 11, 2017, 9:13 AM

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Oh man really? I´ve actually just visited his page 5min before writing the post... Sorry @severe lava , hope you can still forgive and take a look on the problem 😃 You may had that one before... Thanks again! MfG. Benno

severe lava Apr 11, 2017, 9:59 AM

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@smoky halo This might happen if no material is assigned to the object, I think. I haven't got this version around anymore, there has been a metric shit ton of changes in the meantime. I'll try to get a new version of the Toolbox released in the course of the week, it still has some quirks but it should solve quite a number of problems people are having witht the old one.

smoky halo Apr 11, 2017, 11:40 AM

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You meant the Arma Toolbox Material Settings right? Poorly doesnt work, will probably have to stick to my other models. 😃

dawn palm Apr 11, 2017, 4:27 PM

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heavily improved api interface for depbo64.dll
applied killswitch fixes for linux
fixed nasty ctd if using #include "somedrive:\some\where"when rapifying text

smoky halo Apr 19, 2017, 10:57 AM

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I added Model Config extraction to https://odolconverter.t-db.de/

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it's a first version so please report any errors

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axis entries are left out for now, as this is sort of problematic

cold iris Apr 19, 2017, 11:29 AM

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👍

smoky halo Apr 19, 2017, 11:35 AM

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I probably will also rework the mesh distortion

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it distorts too much on small objects

dawn palm Apr 19, 2017, 11:41 AM

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i believe 'unhide=' should read 'unHideValue='

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ditto 'hide' vs 'hideValue'

smoky halo Apr 19, 2017, 11:44 AM

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oh ok. will check that

dawn palm Apr 19, 2017, 11:44 AM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Model_Config

Model Config

smoky halo Apr 19, 2017, 11:46 AM

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ok. thx mike

dawn palm Apr 19, 2017, 11:49 AM

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Deploy_finX
selection="fire"; // ???????

smoky halo Apr 19, 2017, 11:53 AM

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?

dawn palm Apr 19, 2017, 11:54 AM

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class Deploy_fin3
{
type="rotation";
source="inittime";
selection="fire"

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i would assume the bone (named selection) is fin1,2,3,4

smoky halo Apr 19, 2017, 11:55 AM

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ah ok. will check that

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what model are you looking at?

dawn palm Apr 19, 2017, 11:56 AM

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oh god sorry, the nlaw_rocket.p3d

smoky halo Apr 19, 2017, 11:56 AM

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hmm, selection seems to be very bugged ^^

dawn palm Apr 19, 2017, 11:57 AM

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weapons_f \somewhere. i'll find the dam address. moment..

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Q:\a3\weapons_f\Launchers\NLAW\

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sorry t_d. should have said that.

smoky halo Apr 19, 2017, 11:58 AM

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dont worry. I appreciate your feedback

dawn palm Apr 19, 2017, 11:58 AM

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i appreciate quality tools from anyone. we can never have enough

smoky halo Apr 19, 2017, 2:05 PM

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should be fixed now

smoky halo Apr 20, 2017, 12:01 PM

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did they delete my forum thread?

elfin oxide Apr 20, 2017, 12:09 PM

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@smoky halo which one?

smoky halo Apr 20, 2017, 12:16 PM

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about my ODOLConverter https://odolconverter.t-db.de/

dawn palm Apr 20, 2017, 12:17 PM

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pretty ignorant if they a) did, b) don;t know your reputation and c) couldn't read what's in front of their face.

cold iris Apr 20, 2017, 12:18 PM

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yes it seems to be removed

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like they didnt wanted to know about that converter

smoky halo Apr 20, 2017, 12:20 PM

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I did not even get a notice. That's what bugs me.

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@prisma dragon do you know the reason?

dawn palm Apr 20, 2017, 12:22 PM

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if they did that to me, after putting in the serious hard work that you did, ....well, you already know what my response would be.

pearl beacon Apr 20, 2017, 12:46 PM

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and on the other hand this is on armaholic http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=32668

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🤦🏻

smoky halo Apr 20, 2017, 12:48 PM

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@pearl beacon BI seems ok with that, see #ip_rights_violations

pearl beacon Apr 20, 2017, 12:49 PM

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I just read that channel yeah

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sounds weird

vague shard Apr 20, 2017, 2:49 PM

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very lame to delete the thread 👎

pliant lynx Apr 20, 2017, 3:03 PM

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T_D: can you summarize what was said as I dont even see you talk in that channel in few pages scrollback?

smoky halo Apr 20, 2017, 3:05 PM

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you mean about DLC Unblocker?

pliant lynx Apr 20, 2017, 3:05 PM

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oh you mean bis is ok with the armaholic link?

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I wanted to know what happened to your odol converter topic.

smoky halo Apr 20, 2017, 3:06 PM

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it is gone. without a word

pliant lynx Apr 20, 2017, 3:07 PM

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roger. yeah the armaholic link doesnt interest me, I thought you meant answer for your topic being gone was said the other channel. heh.

smoky halo Apr 20, 2017, 3:07 PM

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yeah I was referring to the armaholic link

tropic condor Apr 21, 2017, 2:01 AM

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@dawn palm I would like to say thank you for all your hard work, people may reverse your work like nothing and be scummy, but I for one value your work as it helped me get afloat and take my baby steps in the Arma community

dawn palm Apr 21, 2017, 2:16 AM

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😍

hallow rapids Apr 21, 2017, 9:26 AM

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@smoky halo 's thread is back 😃

smoky halo Apr 21, 2017, 9:28 AM

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yay 😀

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I wonder what happened

meager falcon Apr 21, 2017, 10:06 AM

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magic

orchid shadow Apr 22, 2017, 8:20 PM

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aye so scummy people are.

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arr

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What work of mikeros is being reversed?

native kiln Apr 22, 2017, 8:21 PM

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@orchid shadow What do you mean?

orchid shadow Apr 22, 2017, 8:22 PM

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eople may reverse your work like nothing and be scummy

elfin oxide Apr 22, 2017, 8:23 PM

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Well obfuscation obviously, thing else is there to reverse. Has happend, will always happen, no one should care really ...

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Some will always try hard

orchid shadow Apr 22, 2017, 8:23 PM

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The obsfucation is pointless anyway.

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Not to mention i think it goes against modding.

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But i am from a time where modding was free but now its soopoused to make you money and shit

dawn palm Apr 22, 2017, 11:21 PM

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I happen to agree with you. Most people do. And, those who use obfuscation also agree with you. They are trying to prevent thieves making money off their hard work.

I<<< make money selling a quality tool set, of which, obfuscation would be around 0.01% of the code, and a subject i'm not particularly interested in.

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If you want to be constructive for a change, direct your anger at thieves SELLING other peoples work (of which p3d's are far more valubale than missions), and suggest of ways to get rid of them.

hard locust Apr 23, 2017, 11:14 AM

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@dawn palm Ever since updating to DePbo.6.16.0.14, I get this error in pboproject makepbo: reqaddons. could not find a cfgpatches for (some) file refs. If I downgrade to v6.15, the terrain builds fine and works in A3 😕

dawn palm Apr 23, 2017, 12:56 PM

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you can, if you prefer, disable rebuild in setup.

it's probably more efficient in 6.16 and finding a genuine missing cfgpatches for one or more p3d's

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the pbo that was built in 6.15 works totally fine simply because the objects it needs are 'there' in other pbos. But you can't assume that will always be the case. (eg your user didn't install E76 roads pbo , i give that only as an eample)

dawn palm Apr 25, 2017, 2:29 AM

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dll 6.18 released to address several issues with makepbo, rapify, derapify, and notably rebuild required addons

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new version of eliteness places p3d's map= and class= geo properities at the top of the tree for quicker referencing by map makers

hard locust Apr 25, 2017, 6:25 AM

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just updated, terrain is building fine on new version! thanks for fix

versed kernel Apr 25, 2017, 10:52 AM

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I'm writing scripts that automates a complete build process (with Jenkins). Is it possible to run 'workdrive.exe /purgeGameData /extractGameData' and skip the warning that pops up? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/215792656163405825/306375097038536704/unknown.png

nocturne basin Apr 25, 2017, 12:11 PM

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@versed kernel https://stackoverflow.com/questions/16017094/handling-a-popup-box-using-powershell

vague shard Apr 25, 2017, 5:34 PM

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@versed kernel do you want extract the game data again and again on each (nightly) build?

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also why use workdrive in the first place?

nocturne basin Apr 25, 2017, 8:04 PM

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https://imgur.com/a/dPWc1 <-- ArmA.Studio release 0.2. gets closer

glossy inlet Apr 25, 2017, 8:06 PM

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You don't really see all the backend changes on a screenshot ^^

versed kernel Apr 25, 2017, 8:35 PM

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@nocturne basin Thanks. not using powershell but can use that.
@vague shard Only after updates by checking the date in appmanifest_107410.acf. ArmA3p asked too many questions

vague shard Apr 25, 2017, 8:38 PM

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@versed kernel not easier to simplify arma3p?

versed kernel Apr 25, 2017, 8:50 PM

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Nope. More to maintain. Dont know if I can publish modified version of it

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394 lines of code vs 1 line of code

dawn palm Apr 25, 2017, 9:28 PM

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ArmA3p asked too many questions

people have been modifying arma3p (and are free to do so) for headless servers.

394 lines of code vs 1 line of code

A magnificient feat to compare file dates via an acf file all in one line, AND extract it AND convert most binaries back to plain jane. Well done.

versed kernel Apr 25, 2017, 9:41 PM

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My scipt is currently 15 lines. was thinking of Arma3P.cmd vs "workdrive.exe /purgeGameData /extractGameData"

dawn palm Apr 25, 2017, 9:44 PM

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I welcome any and all tools that help people. And I welcome your efforts.

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At worst, it will be a great learning curve for you, and at best, it will be a very useful tool for the end users.

native kiln Apr 26, 2017, 5:17 AM

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mikero has spoken \[T]/

smoky halo Apr 27, 2017, 8:31 PM

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does anyone know how to obfuscate a mission correctly? And is this even allowed? greetings

wide cedar Apr 27, 2017, 8:40 PM

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no obfuscation will stop someone from extracting it if they want to

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as long as the game is still able to read it (which it has to be), everyone else is too

pearl beacon Apr 27, 2017, 9:42 PM

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👍🏻

dawn palm Apr 28, 2017, 2:20 AM

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the same comments can be made for encryption.

wide cedar Apr 28, 2017, 10:36 AM

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depends. if by encryption you mean drm (program on user's machine has to be able to read it, but user shouldn't be), then yes. that's doomed to fail as well - albeit quite a bit harder.

dawn palm Apr 28, 2017, 12:10 PM

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the signiicant difference between the two is that encryption (as implemented), once cracked wiith a key , opens every ebo and puts everthing in plain view. With obfuscation, extracting mangled binary data and filenames that 'the engine can read' doesn't help a thief use that data in a pbo of his own. The intent is to frustate, mislead, and confuse, not stop, a parasite.

nocturne basin Apr 28, 2017, 1:22 PM

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At the same time this will annoy the shit out of those people who are interested in fixing shit one has fucked up and dropped support later down the line

dawn palm Apr 28, 2017, 1:23 PM

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agreed

smoky halo Apr 28, 2017, 1:45 PM

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👍

dawn palm Apr 28, 2017, 1:49 PM

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...the same thing occurs when a p3d or seven can't be altered because the author ran away.

dawn palm Apr 28, 2017, 5:51 PM

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my free toolset is now avaialble at Maverick (as well as dev-heaven,Julien Bis, and snakeman pmc)

https://armaservices.maverick-apps.de/Products/MikerosDosTools/FileBrowserFree

thank you Optix

glad mesa Apr 28, 2017, 5:53 PM

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paid tools are better. just sayin. 😏

elfin oxide Apr 28, 2017, 5:53 PM

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^ agreed

native kiln Apr 28, 2017, 6:38 PM

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@dawn palm 👌

robust bison Apr 28, 2017, 6:48 PM

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@dawn palm How can I use MakePBO on right click?

dawn palm Apr 28, 2017, 6:55 PM

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never seen it done. there's too many variables to consider

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use pbo project instead

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you can extractpbo on a rightclick, but not makepbo.

wind elm Apr 28, 2017, 7:05 PM

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There WAS a time, where you were able to do that

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I used that to pack missions

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iirc it was some of your tools @dawn palm

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One day ~2-3 Years ago, you removed that option 😛

robust bison Apr 28, 2017, 7:06 PM

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If I use PBO Project, can I get that on right click? @dawn palm

dawn palm Apr 28, 2017, 7:07 PM

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you're looking for a tool where you don't have to do any work.

fallen stone Apr 28, 2017, 7:08 PM

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Can always fiddle with the context menu if you so wish

dawn palm Apr 28, 2017, 7:09 PM

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nothing stopping anyone applying an association reg key with all the parameters they usually use.

robust bison Apr 29, 2017, 11:19 AM

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Wasn't there an program which did exactly this with doing it on the right click menu? 😃

elfin oxide Apr 29, 2017, 11:53 AM

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pbomanger

robust bison Apr 29, 2017, 12:09 PM

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I know that, but made a program which worked with setting mikeros tools on right click?

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@elfin oxide

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 1:01 PM

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FYI, the args array of the new dll syntax gets overwritten with every function call -.-'
You need to copy the args if you want to use them "later"

Quick question, what would be the fastest way in C/C++ to deep copy a const char ** (array of char arrays)
currently using the std::vectorstd::string (args, args+size) constructor

elfin oxide Apr 29, 2017, 1:02 PM

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the args array of the new dll syntax gets overwritten with every function call

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Sure they do, where would be a reason to not change it with every call? @meager falcon

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 1:03 PM

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For not fu**ing around with async dll calls

elfin oxide Apr 29, 2017, 1:04 PM

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No this is not how tings work ... you can not expect the input to stay the same if you async

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That is pretty obvious

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The extensions is 1 instance

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 1:05 PM

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every dll call uses the very same pointer (address), thats my only problem

elfin oxide Apr 29, 2017, 1:06 PM

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If you are having this kind of issues you asked the wrong questions in the past ... yes sure you need to make a copy of your input that instant when you get it intoside your __std_call

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std::vector<std::string>seems fine to me

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just loop over the arguements and save all of them as string, since they are strings anyway

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And @meager falcon remember, that as long as you do not return a value the dll is the only thing active, so it can not be overwritten in the man time actually

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 1:08 PM

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yeah, just doing that surely is no problem, thing is, copying takes ages D:

elfin oxide Apr 29, 2017, 1:08 PM

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So just take your time and make a copy of it and then return any value so that arma can continue doing its work

dawn palm Apr 29, 2017, 1:08 PM

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there is no 'fastest' way with char** because each array is of indeterminate length and has to be strcpy'd separately. the above is the most 'efficient'

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on the other hand

char *[fixed_lengths] is a very different story

elfin oxide Apr 29, 2017, 1:09 PM

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copying takes ages no idea what you are doing but i have a whole shit load of things my dlls do with the new interace, including parsing the input for types etc, and it takes a very very small fraction of a ms!

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 1:11 PM

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yes of only fractions of a ms but copying in my case takes the most time of the call (nearly 50% of the time used by the dll is just said thing)

dawn palm Apr 29, 2017, 1:12 PM

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it's because each instance of a string must be malloc'd eg strdup

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 1:12 PM

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exactly

elfin oxide Apr 29, 2017, 1:13 PM

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Well your cpu can't do magic it needs some time to perform such "simple" task which is actually very complex

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 1:13 PM

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i know, thats why i was complaining about the need of copying it ^^

elfin oxide Apr 29, 2017, 1:13 PM

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Sounds for me like, why do i even need to breathe ... its such a waste of time lol

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why can't i store my air for ever

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 1:14 PM

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I know very good about what actually needed/happening when copying memory blocks

elfin oxide Apr 29, 2017, 1:14 PM

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Honestly as long as you are under 3ms you are fine anway

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Arma has alot of tick rates in that 3ms area like max script running time etc

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 1:15 PM

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I know

elfin oxide Apr 29, 2017, 1:15 PM

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sooo everything below is "blazing" fast anyway

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 1:15 PM

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and I still am, yet the faster the better

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so why shouldnt I ask about how to squeeze the last few ns out of my dll

elfin oxide Apr 29, 2017, 1:17 PM

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you can ask

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but you also got your answer 😃

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 1:18 PM

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I think, I will just go back to the old syntax, it surely is faster to only convert a single chararray to a std::string

elfin oxide Apr 29, 2017, 1:18 PM

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😃

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 1:19 PM

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Its that voice inside my head that screams: "You need to go FASTER!!!!1!!"

fallen stone Apr 29, 2017, 1:20 PM

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A car is only as fast as the driver 😉

elfin oxide Apr 29, 2017, 1:20 PM

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I may remind you we are inside the armaverse, my head only screams: Please dont break in the next arma update and run anything like stable

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 1:20 PM

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I should probably never drive a racecar then

elfin oxide Apr 29, 2017, 1:20 PM

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but yeah

fallen stone Apr 29, 2017, 1:20 PM

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Have you actually looked into the elapsed time? Nanoseconds?

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 1:21 PM

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yes, but not exactly on the time the copy takes

fallen stone Apr 29, 2017, 1:22 PM

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I'd imagine you're looking on that scale, which is negligible when you're calling it from the SQF side

wind elm Apr 29, 2017, 1:22 PM

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BoGuu - Today at 3:20 PM
A car is only as fast as the driver :wink:```
🤦

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 1:22 PM

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the thing is, if you run the test 1000 cycles straight, you will endup with enormous times since the mem alloc stacks up

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so to speak

fallen stone Apr 29, 2017, 1:23 PM

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Define enormous

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It's also hugely dependent on the number of elements you're passing

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 1:24 PM

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if you run 10-100 cycles you are in the range of 10^-5 s, over 1k cycles takes you to 10^-4 or worse

fallen stone Apr 29, 2017, 1:24 PM

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So 1/10 ms?

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Over 1k cycles

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 1:24 PM

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always the exact same args

fallen stone Apr 29, 2017, 1:24 PM

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Have you timed your SQF over 1k cycles?

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😄

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 1:24 PM

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yes I did

elfin oxide Apr 29, 2017, 1:24 PM

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^

fallen stone Apr 29, 2017, 1:24 PM

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What stops you from caching them ext side?

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 1:24 PM

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its actually faster ^^

fallen stone Apr 29, 2017, 1:24 PM

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If you don't want to pass them again, don't

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No way the SQF is faster than 100* ns

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 1:25 PM

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no, but faster than the actual dll call

fallen stone Apr 29, 2017, 1:25 PM

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Eh

elfin oxide Apr 29, 2017, 1:26 PM

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i do not thing so, but im not 100% sure either

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 1:26 PM

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you confused me right there

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sorry

fallen stone Apr 29, 2017, 1:27 PM

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So your calls are taking 100 ns

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And your SQF behind it is running faster? 😄

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 1:27 PM

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the SQF part to fetch all data takes roughly 0.00004s

fallen stone Apr 29, 2017, 1:28 PM

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So over 100 times slower

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 1:28 PM

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means 0.04 ms

fallen stone Apr 29, 2017, 1:29 PM

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Yeh and 40k ns

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 1:29 PM

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the dll cal takes (at worst) 0.92 ms

dawn palm Apr 29, 2017, 1:29 PM

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uSecs

fallen stone Apr 29, 2017, 1:29 PM

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0.92ms?

elfin oxide Apr 29, 2017, 1:29 PM

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1 dll call = 0.92ms then you are doing something wrong

fallen stone Apr 29, 2017, 1:29 PM

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And that's purely a call with an instant return?

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That's massive

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Arkensor and I ran extensive tests with the args syntax with huge input

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And we never hit that, ever

elfin oxide Apr 29, 2017, 1:30 PM

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^

fallen stone Apr 29, 2017, 1:30 PM

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Maybe over 1000's of cycles

dawn palm Apr 29, 2017, 1:30 PM

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40k ns = 40 uSecs

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 1:31 PM

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thats one dll entry copy all args to an std::string vector attach it to some object and back

dawn palm Apr 29, 2017, 1:31 PM

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milli, micro, nano

fallen stone Apr 29, 2017, 1:31 PM

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sounds like something has borked

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 1:32 PM

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I will test it outside of arma, just to make sure

fallen stone Apr 29, 2017, 1:32 PM

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We were passing a large set of data, parsing it, and returning a large set in magnitudes less

glossy inlet Apr 29, 2017, 1:33 PM

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Copying stuff is kinda fast. Allocating is not. Preallocate your buffers to a size that probably fits your data in a seperate thread.

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 1:33 PM

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good idea

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in theory

dawn palm Apr 29, 2017, 1:33 PM

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can't. each pointer, points to an indeterminate length string.

glossy inlet Apr 29, 2017, 1:34 PM

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TFAR can do mutex lock - copy to shared memory - mutex unlock - set off Event- in 0.007ms 7us so copying is really not much work

fallen stone Apr 29, 2017, 1:34 PM

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yeh kinda or not, not that slow 😄

glossy inlet Apr 29, 2017, 1:34 PM

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Well.. Just preallocate 8192 ^^ The string will sure fit

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 1:34 PM

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you can since you are using the old syntax getting only one string of a max size at a time

glossy inlet Apr 29, 2017, 1:35 PM

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If it doesn't you pay the reallocation. But better than nothing

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Well max size for old RVExtension syntax is several MB... That's a bit much to prealloc

dawn palm Apr 29, 2017, 1:35 PM

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it doesn't help dedmen, because the pointer to each 8192 block must change from the original

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 1:36 PM

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just memcopy/strcopy then

dawn palm Apr 29, 2017, 1:36 PM

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you need to malloc to memppy

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you need to malloc to strcpy

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 1:36 PM

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yes, but thats what the buffer is made for

dawn palm Apr 29, 2017, 1:37 PM

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you end up with the same issue, each * of ** must be a new address

glossy inlet Apr 29, 2017, 1:37 PM

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queue<std::vector<char>> buffers;
otherThread {
buffers.pushBack(std::vector<char>());
buffers.back().reserve(8192);
//Do for as many you need
}

RvExtension {
buf = buffers.pop();
buffers.resize(functionLength);
memcpy(buffers.data(),function,functionLength);
}

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 1:37 PM

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yes, but only if using the new syntax, otherwise its char *

dawn palm Apr 29, 2017, 1:38 PM

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and strcpy btw is generally deadly, since the code must spend extra time checking for no overlap

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there is no overlap in this case, but the compiler can't asssume that

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 1:38 PM

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yeah, strncopy then

dawn palm Apr 29, 2017, 1:38 PM

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sampe issue

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all strAnythings try and use inbuilt hardware

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 1:39 PM

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doesnt strncopy take a length param?

dawn palm Apr 29, 2017, 1:39 PM

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but for that to operate, there must be no overlap

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 1:39 PM

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then the compiler would know

glossy inlet Apr 29, 2017, 1:39 PM

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you can safely use memcpy if you know the length

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or std::copy... Because you don't need to write C in C++

dawn palm Apr 29, 2017, 1:40 PM

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indeed, and that's exactly what a strcpy function does if it detects overlap

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otherwise, it uses asm code

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 1:41 PM

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good to know, thanks :)

dawn palm Apr 29, 2017, 1:41 PM

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but the strXXXX function itself, cannot know in advance, that there is. is not, overlap

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std::copy btw, ultimately devolves to strcpy

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... because all compilers try and use the inbuilt hardware of the pc, specifically designed for this kind of transfer and operates in nanoseconds

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...but, you can't get round the need to strdup each individual string of indeterminate length.

glossy inlet Apr 29, 2017, 1:49 PM

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But that's not that easy when doing Arma stuff... I enabled SSE2 in TFAR and within 2 weeks I got reports from some guys that had CPU's without SSE2 support

dawn palm Apr 29, 2017, 1:49 PM

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yep

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in my code (the dll) i solved all issues <grin> by transparently converting every strcpy to a memcpy.

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including of course std: blah

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microsoft are actually quite good at detecting this stuff, but gcc is not so agile.

fallen stone Apr 29, 2017, 1:52 PM

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Off this subject. Complete noob with pboProject. Tried packing an addon earlier, the includes were visibly being processed (stdout), however, no merging was actually done. Include lines were left in the source file and the includes deleted (per the excludes). Am I being silly?

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Win to add. Latest ver (off mav)

dawn palm Apr 29, 2017, 1:53 PM

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seriously doubt you were silly

fallen stone Apr 29, 2017, 1:54 PM

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I gave it a test run with a single file (with a single include) (and mission.sqm), same issue

dawn palm Apr 29, 2017, 1:54 PM

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description.ext or ?

fallen stone Apr 29, 2017, 1:54 PM

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Yeh, content: #include "test.hpp"

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test.hpp contained a bare CfgFunctions

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test.hpp was deleted, and the include left (although appeared to be processed in stdout), no errors

dawn palm Apr 29, 2017, 1:55 PM

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what you were seeing in the stdout of description.ext was LINT chekcing

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desc.ext cannot be binarised

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and ergo, the includes must remain at the end of the day

fallen stone Apr 29, 2017, 1:56 PM

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What stops the includes being merged (even w/o bin)?

dawn palm Apr 29, 2017, 1:56 PM

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consequently, the includes themselves have to be packed into the pbo

fallen stone Apr 29, 2017, 1:56 PM

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Np. Thought it was odd that it removed the include files themselves, rendering it useless

dawn palm Apr 29, 2017, 1:57 PM

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you have choices in setup

-Xclude from pbo, by default, will remove all (dot)h, and (dot)hpp

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people explicitly choose to 'allow' *.h or *.hpp as part of their workflow

fallen stone Apr 29, 2017, 1:59 PM

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Will do. thanks. I'm assuming it'll still remove the non-desc.ext includes from the proj? After merge

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regardless of the setting

dawn palm Apr 29, 2017, 2:00 PM

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only if you make those 'non-desc.ext' different extensions to one's used in desc.ext

fallen stone Apr 29, 2017, 2:01 PM

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Sure, makes sense, ta 😃

dawn palm Apr 29, 2017, 2:01 PM

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it's twisted logic, but.....

glossy inlet Apr 29, 2017, 3:42 PM

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http://image.prntscr.com/image/0161cff295c1479c8e767b4d9ce6f577.png Intercept is not dead.

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 4:28 PM

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effort was worth it I think:
0.00000976s (0.00976ms) at 5 cycles
0.00014s (0.14ms) at 100 cycles
0.0004s (0.4ms) at 1000 cycles
0.00118s (1.18ms) at 10000 cycles

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including the time of sqf

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I can finally sleep well again

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 4:52 PM

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@glossy inlet hows the ingame syntax working?

glossy inlet Apr 29, 2017, 5:02 PM

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What you mean?

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Just registering my own SQF functions. you can specify name argument types return type and description. And then the registered SQF function will call your C++ function

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registerSqfFunction("interceptEvent",GameType::Array,GameType::Array,GameType::String,"description",_interceptEvent);
funcName, leftArg, rightArg, Return, description, function

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 5:11 PM

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more like how is that "interceptEvent" defined ingame?

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Macros? or how does it not throw errors of doom

elfin oxide Apr 29, 2017, 5:12 PM

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M8, they edit arma via the memory, nothing like sqf or marcos ...

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 5:12 PM

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ahh, yeah see, thats what I wanted to know

elfin oxide Apr 29, 2017, 5:13 PM

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Have a look at their git repos if you want to find our more i guess

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 5:13 PM

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will do

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looking good

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I guess battleye isnt amused about it tho?

elfin oxide Apr 29, 2017, 5:22 PM

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Battleye is not involved serverside anyway, and on the client it will preven the dlls from loading if the dev team does get it whitelisted

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But that is with every dll out there

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 5:22 PM

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yep

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ok, this is really worth a try

glossy inlet Apr 29, 2017, 5:46 PM

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Battleye shouldn't care. We are not editing any memory manually. And yeah no.. We don't edit Arma via memory ^^ Atleast not really

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 8:36 PM

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just one more question that I couldnt really find out in the wiki
If I set up intercept, does the normal ingame sqf still work? @glossy inlet

karmic niche Apr 29, 2017, 8:40 PM

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@meager falcon yes,of course

meager falcon Apr 29, 2017, 8:41 PM

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thanks, well I have mistaken that then

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great work btw

versed kernel Apr 30, 2017, 8:10 PM

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PublisherCmd.exe :


- Started
- CopyingToTempDirectory
- CopyingFile (d:\jenkins\workspace\CUP_Terrains_pbo\Addons)
Errors occured while publishing: 
! Not enough space available on disk 'C:\'. Available space 7855923200 B, required space 13976295331 B```
Where do i set 'TempDirectory'? its not `Arma 3 Tools\Publisher\Publisher.exe.config` or in `%localappdata%/Bohemia_Interactive\Publisher.exe_Url_4ygeumi3ocjlhalgldtdqcxud30rm4ep\1.5.140.985\user.config`

dawn palm Apr 30, 2017, 11:15 PM

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I think only 7gig left of a (probably) terrabyte drive you've used up 99.3% of available space. You've got bigger issues that just wanting to publish something. Free some space up or choose a different drive.

versed kernel May 1, 2017, 12:28 AM

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its a VM. on precious ssd-raid space 😛

dawn palm May 1, 2017, 1:11 AM

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welll, it's basically a contradiction to use ssd for a crazy amount of data transfers, rather than what it's designed for: to speed up cpu and video processing. There's very little justification in holding addons on these devices, the game reads the damn things into ram anyway. And there's enormous justification building the pbo's on ssd.

karmic niche May 1, 2017, 1:19 AM

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video processing - I never really understood why that was the case. Isn't video data read sequentially anyway, so the random access time advantage of SSDs wouldn't apply here?

dawn palm May 1, 2017, 1:20 AM

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that's a good point actually. a very good one.

karmic niche May 1, 2017, 1:21 AM

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But I've seen people on video forums swear that switching to SSDs made their video encode faster, so I'm... perplexed

pearl beacon May 1, 2017, 1:21 AM

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in terms of Arma it only helps for map streaming

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afaik

dawn palm May 1, 2017, 1:22 AM

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it probably does, Stack, but it doesn't negate your comment.

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my point was, when you have limited amount of ssd available, you are forced to make choices. And archived material such as pbos are an excllent canditate for removal. Of course there will be a performance hit, but not quite as slow as starting again because you've run out of space.

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😎

smoky halo May 1, 2017, 9:15 AM

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@versed kernel You can't change the temporary folder that at the moment I'm afraid, command-line Publisher always uses the user's temporary folder as specified by the system. You can hack it at that system level by changing it system wide; this is how Publisher locates the temp folder:

The path specified by the TMP environment variable.
The path specified by the TEMP environment variable.
The path specified by the USERPROFILE environment variable.
The Windows directory.

versed kernel May 1, 2017, 9:43 AM

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All 4 of them? I tried to move TMP and TEMP, did not work

versed kernel May 1, 2017, 10:06 AM

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Seems like Jenkins/Cygwin does not use the windows environment variables. Got it published in powershell. Thanks! 😃

forest trellis May 2, 2017, 9:45 AM

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SQF parser and static analyzer released. It essentially helps finding all kinds of bugs in SQF: https://forums.bistudio.com/forums/topic/204193-sqf-parser-and-static-analyser/
In case you know SQF idioms that are plainly bad, let me know that I add them as warnings to be shown to the developer

pliant lynx May 2, 2017, 9:51 AM

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back in arma2 era I used Sqsmacs Squint, how does yours compare to it, I mean does with work the same way?

forest trellis May 2, 2017, 9:53 AM

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@pliant lynx never tried it. This one can do these type of things: http://imgur.com/a/1vLXm

pliant lynx May 2, 2017, 9:54 AM

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looks pretty good, will have to try it out.

forest trellis May 2, 2017, 9:57 AM

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pm me if you need help installing it. It was already used to fix several bugs in Epoch, e.g. https://github.com/EpochModTeam/Epoch/commit/c1cfc3d29709635da7b2585ae43b61c71e14cf51

karmic niche May 2, 2017, 10:24 AM

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OMG, someone else is using Python :O!
BSD license, cool! I don't see the need to use your library in my python code right now, but i'll keep an eye on it, for sure.

forest trellis May 2, 2017, 10:57 AM

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😃 The python is the backend. The frontend is an Atom plugin

pearl beacon May 2, 2017, 11:00 AM

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You should make a Sublime plugin (they use python) ;)

forest trellis May 2, 2017, 11:03 AM

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@pearl beacon I can try. Essentially, we need to write an extension to SublimeLinter 3 for SQF

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from the backend side, the problem is solved. There is only missing the thin interface for sublime

pearl beacon May 2, 2017, 11:05 AM

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Yep

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I meant to look at it but won't have time for at least 2-3 weeks

forest trellis May 2, 2017, 11:20 AM

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@pearl beacon is there already a code highligher for sublime?

pearl beacon May 2, 2017, 11:20 AM

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yep

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https://github.com/JonBons/Sublime-SQF-Language

forest trellis May 2, 2017, 11:21 AM

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good, so I can just focus on the linter.

nocturne basin May 2, 2017, 12:47 PM

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ArmA.Studio 0.2.6331.26237 got released
you will be prompted when you start ArmA.Studio if you are not up to date (unless you disabled Auto-Updating)
Open panels will appear empty due to internal changes, just reopen those
Changes:

- Rewrote whole lot of the backend
--> Solution now supports separate projects from different pathes
--> Fixed a whole lot minor and major issues
- Added German Localization
- Added Plugin System
- Added Workspace History (displays the last X workspace pathes and makes them selectible)
- Added simple image viewer (no PAA currently)
- Added properties page for Solution-Project
- Added Search (& Replace)
- Added Temporary documents (will be received by the debugger so that debugging unknown code is possible)
- Breakpoints now are in a separate file with separate extension
- Images wont upscale anymore```
Special Thanks goes out to @vabene1111#5492 and `trdwll` for this update
link: https://x39.io/projects?project=ArmA.Studio

forest trellis May 2, 2017, 1:21 PM

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@pearl beacon https://github.com/LordGolias/SublimeLinter-contrib-sqflint

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done

pearl beacon May 2, 2017, 1:22 PM

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Wow nice, that was fast @forest trellis !

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I will try it out this evening and we can look into submitting it to the Sublime package repo :)

forest trellis May 2, 2017, 1:23 PM

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the README is rough though.

pearl beacon May 2, 2017, 1:23 PM

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I can make some PRs later haha

vague shard May 2, 2017, 2:25 PM

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@nocturne basin @forest trellis you guys are doing the Arma gods work 🙇

half river May 3, 2017, 7:42 AM

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@nocturne basin did you ever release your GUI editor your showed a while back?

nocturne basin May 3, 2017, 11:20 AM

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@half river x39.io ArmA-UI-Editor
Will be available in arma.studio at some point

forest trellis May 3, 2017, 11:59 AM

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Hey, does anyone knows of a complete list of reserved keywords of SQF segmented in terms of constants (e.g. player), unaryOperators (e.g. position), and BinaryOperators (e.g. max)?

smoky halo May 3, 2017, 12:01 PM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/supportInfo

supportInfo

forest trellis May 3, 2017, 12:06 PM

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@smoky halo that is great. Thanks a lot!

smoky halo May 3, 2017, 12:06 PM

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you're welcome

smoky halo May 3, 2017, 1:07 PM

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Anyone know if RVVersion extension interface is going to be in 1.70 ?

elfin oxide May 3, 2017, 1:08 PM

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the hell is the RVVersion interface?

smoky halo May 3, 2017, 1:09 PM

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Kinda obvious, version info returned to the engine.
Means linux servers rpt output will have extension version etc in the rpt output. Really should been done that way to begin with

elfin oxide May 3, 2017, 1:11 PM

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ah ok, i though it would have anything more fancy that just outputting the version .. as for now i just followed the guideline for the version command, but a version interface would be nice indeed. Never heared of it somewere before. Where did you get the info that there should be a interface like it?

smoky halo May 3, 2017, 1:11 PM

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That guideline in biki is just stupid imo

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Dev Changelog, keep an eye on it

forest trellis May 3, 2017, 1:13 PM

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Could someone run {diag_log _x} forEach supportInfo "" in the editor and paste the log on the internet (e.g. in https://pastebin.com/) ? I am coding the SQF analyser but have no access to my tower and really need that info for some cool stuff.

elfin oxide May 3, 2017, 1:14 PM

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@smoky halo ah I see, i stoped reading it after nothing worth to mention was posted there for ages ... but yeah if they put it in now onto dev branch then it will be in 1.70 for sure

smoky halo May 3, 2017, 1:16 PM

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Stuff that is added into dev can could miss the feature freeze for the next version, i.e it might end up in 1.72. Thats why i asked if anyone knew 😉

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Or tested it

onyx lion May 3, 2017, 2:57 PM

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📎 1.71.141457.rpt

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@forest trellis

forest trellis May 3, 2017, 3:00 PM

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@onyx lion thanks a lot!

dawn palm May 3, 2017, 3:02 PM

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also, the above info does not tell you the functions that produce constants, which was the way I read your original message. items like pi, rad+100 sqrt 6 etc.
only constants can be used in exec/eval statements in configs, since the config itself is a constant. This info is available in the documentation for pboProject/MakePbo and the dll itself.

forest trellis May 3, 2017, 3:06 PM

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thanks @dawn palm. So far all the variables (i.e. non-keywords) without _ are being treated as valid code without a type, thus so far that is not an issue. This is because most globals are not defined within a single piece of code, which is what so far the analyser checks. It would be possible to write an analyser to analyse whole directories, but that requires knowing how to analyse #include and #define, which so far is not implemented.

dawn palm May 3, 2017, 3:16 PM

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you could do worse than look at sbsmac's "squint". it was the creme de la creme of analysers. I have not seen it's equal in arma3. Yours can end up better, but it's a great place to start, to 'see' how the statements were analysed and what he looked for.

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some of us still use squint to analyse o2script, the sister language to sqs/sqf. Addon Breaker from bis is, or was, written in o2script

smoky halo May 3, 2017, 3:40 PM

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you analyse o2script? ^^

dawn palm May 3, 2017, 4:30 PM

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squint analyses o2script

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I asked mac to add the small differences to syntax, notably the @ operator, and he did.

vague shard May 3, 2017, 6:54 PM

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anyone looked into the undocumented startup parameters of the arma3(diag).exe?
http://paste.ubuntu.com/24506585/

glossy inlet May 3, 2017, 6:57 PM

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Some of them. the j* stuff is obviously the java scripting thingy.
d3d stuff is nothing interesting
debugCallExtension looks relativly new

nocturne basin May 4, 2017, 4:29 AM

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just found this lil beauty in my auto-reports:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<root>
  <version>0.2.6331.26237</version>
  <report><![CDATA[I tried saving a fucking file. fix your shit software]]></report>
  <stacktrace><![CDATA[...]]></stacktrace>
  <trace />
</root>```
remarkable beautiful

hallow rapids May 4, 2017, 7:41 AM

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lol 😁

fresh jolt May 4, 2017, 1:08 PM

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😂

glossy inlet May 4, 2017, 1:52 PM

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For anyone who hasn't noticed yet. Intercept is alive again!
https://github.com/intercept/intercept/pulls
Registering your own SQF commands. Performance Improvements and updated to 1.68.

smoky halo May 4, 2017, 1:57 PM

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is this like Fusion?

glossy inlet May 4, 2017, 1:57 PM

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Fusion?

smoky halo May 4, 2017, 1:59 PM

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https://www.simct.com/products/vbs3/vbsfusion

glossy inlet May 4, 2017, 2:01 PM

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Somewhat. Not so well organized and Intercept only has the same functionality as scripts have. So.. Can only do stuff that a script could also do.
If script can't cuz of lacking command then Intercept also can't

smoky halo May 4, 2017, 2:03 PM

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k

forest trellis May 4, 2017, 6:58 PM

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@smoky halo tough me that the supportInfo function allows to get the signature of every default function of Arma. Does anyone knows how to get their return type?

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signature => argument types

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e.g. str -> STRING

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|| -> BOOL

glossy inlet May 4, 2017, 7:16 PM

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https://gist.github.com/dedmen/67a2ef9007f4c9b72075d0299583096b like that?

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@forest trellis

forest trellis May 4, 2017, 7:18 PM

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😮 What black magic is th..... burn the witch!!!!

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@glossy inlet how can I get that for every function?

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😛

glossy inlet May 4, 2017, 7:20 PM

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Wait for me to have time to create a full dump.. Which is maybe tomorrow. Or grab a dev build from my debugger and send a undocumented command over the named pipe

dawn palm May 4, 2017, 7:20 PM

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i don't think he wan'ts that dedmen (nice code btw). he just wants the return value type of the function (if any), not the typeOf a variable.

glossy inlet May 4, 2017, 7:20 PM

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Well. It includes the types of arguments and return values

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That data is directly from engine

dawn palm May 4, 2017, 7:21 PM

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oh? let me look again.

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how would i use that to find out what 'select' or ' player' return ?

forest trellis May 4, 2017, 7:24 PM

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""retT": [
"ANY"
]"

pearl beacon May 4, 2017, 7:24 PM

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"retT" would have it

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but that gist is just for getVariable

dawn palm May 4, 2017, 7:24 PM

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got it. thank you,

glossy inlet May 4, 2017, 7:25 PM

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You can't find out what exactly a function returning ANY might return

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Because can't have the arguments and their types in a static file

dawn palm May 4, 2017, 7:26 PM

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well the return of a select can be any, so i understant that bit.

forest trellis May 4, 2017, 7:26 PM

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yes. That is fine. Arma is dynamically typed, so that makes sense

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but often functions have just one return type, and the engine may have that info.

dawn palm May 4, 2017, 7:27 PM

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especially constants.

forest trellis May 4, 2017, 7:27 PM

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(which is what @dawn palm was saying, that he can dump that)