cinder holly
@median island if you check in https://github.com/acemod/ACE3/blob/master/addons/tacticalladder/functions/fnc_deployTL.sqf
private _ladder = "ACE_TacticalLadder" createVehicle _pos;
_ladder setPos _pos;
_ladder setDir getDir _unit;
```↑ this is how it is created. you may find it in the editor, or create it with `_pos` and `_dir` set to wanted values
novel rune
Put this into some dummy objects init box:
if (isServer) then {
private _ladder = "ACE_TacticalLadder" createVehicle [0,0,0];
_ladder setPosASL getPosASL this;
_ladder setDir getDir this;
deleteVehicle this;
};
median island
I asked on ACE slack
If you want to place it manually, the class name is ACE_TacticalLadder. That will likely spawn it collapsed though (you could animate it) and you'll still have the interactions```
```sqf
#define __ANIMS ["extract_1","extract_2","extract_3","extract_4","extract_5","extract_6","extract_7","extract_8","extract_9","extract_10","extract_11"]
{
_ladder animate [_x, 0];
} count __ANIMS;```That looks like how you would animate it.
fresh wave
Hello folks, I'm making a Ravage mission with the MP persistency setting enabled. When you die it saves (kind of) the mission state. The problem i'm having is that when you have a couple of hours in the mission, when you die the game freezes for a minute or two (my guess is that has so many things to save and is a synchronous task), after that, when I respawn it freezes again and randomly I spawn at the bottom left corner of the map (Altis) swimming in the bottom of the ocean or being rocketed to the skies (maybe a collision problem with the respawn marker?)
I'm thinking to switch from MP to SP so I can avoid respawns this situation, but I would love that more experiencied people can give a hint about what's happening.
Thanks in advance ✨
north marsh
any idea why IDAP attacks WEST?
feral gate
Are IDAP Civilian or changed to INDFOR or OPFOR? Or are you running a bad mod?
north marsh
no, just clean mission
civilian
WEST setFriend [RESISTANCE, 1];
WEST setFriend [EAST, 1];
WEST setFriend [CIVILIAN, 1];
EAST setFriend [RESISTANCE, 1];
EAST setFriend [WEST, 1];
EAST setFriend [CIVILIAN, 1];
RESISTANCE setFriend [WEST, 1];
RESISTANCE setFriend [EAST, 1];
RESISTANCE setFriend [CIVILIAN, 1];
CIVILIAN setFriend [WEST, 1];
CIVILIAN setFriend [EAST, 1];
CIVILIAN setFriend [RESISTANCE, 1];
even with that, IDAP hates WEST xD
feral gate
🤷
prime dome
I dunno, civies shouldn't attack anyone
blazing ferry
is there any mod compatible way to improve AI behavior? some times they get hit and dont change position, they just wait to get hit again and again, doing nothing
narrow abyss
blazing ferry
thanks!
faint drift
Does anyone use the Apex Framework, and if so, how does one edit how the base looks?
shadow panther
@ancient bison if the mission is not binarized then opem the mission.sqm up in notepad and remove the mod lines related to alive, and c_tablet if they are there.
oh wow that was some serious chat delay lol
eager ruin
Is there a way to add custom images to a map? I am trying to put a Austrian flag in since it doesn't come as a default marker.
cinder holly
you could place 3 rectangles :p
you cannot use CfgMarkers in Description.ext @eager ruin .
https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/127333-custom-marker-for-mission/
cinder holly
anytime
cinder holly
@signal coral no cross posting as it is against the rules, please. Delete here and we will answer in #arma3_scripting
signal coral
Sorry, done.
cinder holly
Thanks! np 👍
signal coral
Um, do you guys know any reliable revive script that can be enabled, disabled in mission parameters while also working with ai teammates?With the A3 wounding systemit doesn't seem to be possible.
signal coral
hey all. I've made a mission and looking for some people to help test it and give me their opinions. Is anyone available for a playthrough?
worldly gyro
Any way to set up loadouts to scroll through on a vehicle? For example if you were to go to said vehicle and scroll wheel "equip Fire Team Leader Loadout" and it replaces all of your gear to the pre-designed loadout? I'm having a hard time finding this via google, is there somewhere I can find this answer or someone knows how to do this?
sinful rampart
addAction to add a mouse wheel action. And in it's code you just use setUnitLoadout
worldly gyro
I take it I would have to setup an loadout(??).sqf and in the vehicle's INIT I would put that AddAction SetUnitLoadout Fireteamleader. Something like this?
sinful rampart
yeah
lament juniper
hi
im working on a script for player respown that respown players in multiple positions, the most important thing is that no player respown near an other one .
i had been puted this script in onPlayerRespown.sqf
but might not work
main gyro
If you use
```sqf
CODE HERE
```
it will help us see your code better
lament juniper
sorry
_player = _this select 0;
//_rpArray = [sp1 , sp2 , sp3 , sp4 , sp5 , sp6 , sp7 , sp8 , sp9 , sp10 , sp11 , sp12 , sp13 , sp14 , sp15];
_rpArray = [sp1 , sp2 , sp3 , sp4];
_rpRandom = selectRandom _rpArray;
While {Count ((GetPos _rpRandom) NearEntities ["Man",5]) > 0} Do
{
_rpRandom = selectRandom _rpArray;
Sleep 0.1;
};
_rpPos = getPosATL _rpRandom;
_player setpos _rpPos;
_player setUnitLoadout (getUnitLoadout ld);
😃
@main gyro tnx for the tip
cold canyon
So I am looking to a HVT style mission, and instead of using my usual scripts to have just a static HVT...I would like to do something a little more elaborate. My goal is to have a HVT that will actually run away from you (and possibly drive as well) with or w/o a group dedicated to defend him with armed force. Does any kind of AI func/script exist to assist me in this? Or would I need to write something myself?
lament juniper
have any one any idia to complete the script ?
sinful rampart
You didn't say what's wrong with it.. And I don't see anything wrong.
lament juniper
While {Count ((GetPos _rpRandom) NearEntities ["Man",5]) > 0} Do
{
_rpRandom = selectRandom _rpArray;
Sleep 0.1;
};
You don't need to repost that. We can still all see it in your last post.
lament juniper
it dose not work
player respown near other players
sory for my English gramer (Im persian)
grizzled meteor
What distance do you consider close?
grizzled meteor
Does this happen always, or only when they respawn at the same time?
grizzled meteor
And the respawn point is always the same?
What/where is your default (Arma) respawn? Do you have e.g. respawn_west?
lament juniper
actuly there are 15 rps
grizzled meteor
But they always spawn on the same?
grizzled meteor
Not sure I follow. I mean if the radius is only 5m it will be very easy to stay at 10m and spawn kill?
lament juniper
no actuly there is no space but i test it with 50 meters
and it not work yet
I think the falowing line is wrong
Count ((GetPos _rpRandom) NearEntities ["Man",5]) > 0
@sinful rampart what is your idia ?
sinful rampart
I would probably do what you are already doing
I don't see any problems with your code besides the incorrect uppercase letters in your commands
grizzled meteor
What respawn system have you configured in description.ext/editor
lament juniper
respawn = 3;
respawndelay = 2;
respawnDialog = 0;
I solved the problem
just change the getpos with getposALT
thanks every body
sinful rampart
Ahh... you fixed it by giving nearEntities (a command that takes PositionAGL) A positionATL instead of PositionAGL which are literally no different if you are standing on the ground...
Nice!
novel rune
He could've just deleted the "GetPos", and it'd take the distance from the actual object.
grizzled meteor
Seems the only reason the change works is because something else is underneath the object
E.g. sp3 is placed above a house or some rocks?
novel rune
Yeah, getPos reports AGLS, getPosATL reports ATL, and the command needs AGL. It's just that ATL is the same as AGL when over land.
3 different formats. He should've used either no getPosX at all, as nearEntities also works with OBJECT, or ASLToAGL getPosASL.
I blame the wiki.
grizzled meteor
Yeah. If possible I always convert to ASL
novel rune
Well, has nothing to do with ASL itself. But this is the only way to generate an AGL position. Alternatively use ATLToAGL getPosATL, but this is very slightly slower and just as verbose, so why bother.
Oh, nvm, we don't even have a command called ATLToAGL.
wicked reef
!(allUnits inAreaArray [[0,0,0], 1000, 1000] isEqualTo [])
Isn't better than:
(allUnits findIf { _x distance [0,0,0] < 1000 }) != -1;
in term of performance and readability ?
wicked reef
also if findif stops ?
wicked reef
!([player] inAreaArray [[0,0,0], 1000, 1000] isEqualTo [])
([player] findIf { _x distance [0,0,0] < 1000 }) != -1;
I need to test this, just curious
wooden dove
eeeeh, I need to test this
0.0003ms difference with 1 index
so, huh, TIL first one is faster in all cases @wicked reef
wicked reef
Sad it is not said in the wiki ... or they should use an other exemple for the findif command
(but we are agree the performance impact is realllllyy low, at least for readability)
wooden dove
no, findIf is A LOT slower than the first one
and I'm actually wondering why that's the case :/
wicked reef
because it calcultate at each time the distance?
wooden dove
probably
wicked reef
god dam, I changed all count by findif, now I need to use inAreaArray x)
wooden dove
what do you want to do?
wicked reef
In H&M there are a lot of test to know if objects are in a distance, I am trying to updat the actual syntaxe
wooden dove
I was about to suggest to use distance2D but I remembered it's slower than distance
wicked reef
Just trying to find a syntaxe readable and optimize
Here is an exemple https://github.com/Vdauphin/HeartsAndMinds/blob/master_daily/=BTC=co@30_Hearts_and_Minds.Altis/core/fnc/common/delete.sqf#L18
but there are many
wooden dove
you can't use findIf for that anyways, unless you just need 1 unit
and even the inAreaArray would probably be faster
wicked reef
playableUnits select {_x distance _args < 1000} isEqualTo []
Isn't equivalent to
playableUnits findif {_x distance _args < 1000} isEqualTo -1
?
I will use inAreaArray for all distance check, thanks for the help as always @wooden dove !
wooden dove
no it's not, findIf in this case is a lot, LOT slower
oh wait that's a different first line 😄
findIf should be faster in theory
findif is faster ^ in this case
but both are slow AF and should be used sparingly (but ded spoiled me so it should be fine for your usage :P)
wicked reef
let's use inArrayArea!
rapid hatch
Does High command module work on dedicated server?
novel rune
Of course inAreaArray is better. You move the looping through the array of objects from SQF to C++. This is a huge boost, because you lose all the overhead from each iteration through an SQF code block.
prime dome
@rapid hatch yes
jade mulch
Hello!
im having this apammed in my rpt any idea?
15:55:54 In last 3000 miliseconds was lost another 2015 these messages. 15:55:57 Object id 944532cc (716) not found in slot 166,162 15:55:57 In last 3000 miliseconds was lost another 2015 these messages. 15:55:57 Link cannot be resolved 15:55:57 In last 3000 miliseconds was lost another 2015 these messages. 15:56:00 Object id 944532cc (716) not found in slot 166,162 15:56:00 In last 3000 miliseconds was lost another 2015 these messages. 15:56:00 Link cannot be resolved 15:56:00 In last 3000 miliseconds was lost another 2015 these messages. 15:56:03 Object id 944532cc (716) not found in slot 166,162 15:56:03 In last 3000 miliseconds was lost another 2015 these messages. 15:56:03 Link cannot be resolved 15:56:03 In last 3000 miliseconds was lost another 2015 these messages. 15:56:06 Object id 944532cc (716) not found in slot 166,162 15:56:06 In last 3000 miliseconds was lost another 2015 these messages. 15:56:06 Link cannot be resolved 15:56:06 In last 3000 miliseconds was lost another 2015 these messages. 15:56:09 Object id 944532cc (716) not found in slot 166,162 15:56:09 In last 3000 miliseconds was lost another 2015 these messages. 15:56:09 Link cannot be resolved 15:56:09 In last 3000 miliseconds was lost another 2015 these messages. 15:56:12 Object id 944532cc (716) not found in slot 166,162 15:56:12 In last 3000 miliseconds was lost another 2015 these messages. 15:56:12 Link cannot be resolved 15:56:12 In last 3000 miliseconds was lost another 2015 these messages.
sinful rampart
Exile?
sinful rampart
Sounds like something that should be reported on the #arma3_feedback_tracker website
jade mulch
hmm
wicked reef
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_Leaflets#Mission_Usage say:
myDrone addMagazine "1Rnd_Leaflets_West_F";
but it should be:
myDrone addMagazine "Pylon_1Rnd_Leaflets_West_F";
isn't it ?
wicked reef
I don't understand why this:
a = cursorObject;
a addMagazine "Pylon_1Rnd_Leaflets_West_F";
a addWeapon "Bomb_Leaflets";
reload a;
a fire "Bomb_Leaflets";
drop leaflets and not this:
a = cursorObject;
a addMagazine "1Rnd_Leaflets_West_F";
a addWeapon "Bomb_Leaflets";
reload a;
a fire "Bomb_Leaflets";
Nevermind it works but you can't mix them 🤗
But player still can't fire manually (without the script command fire)
wicked reef
just tested selectWeapon nothing more :/
You still can't select the added weapon 😦
charred meteor
Hey guys does anyone have an idea on how to make this idea possible in arma 3. So I have a mission where players need to get medical supplies and bring them back to a doctor. How can I go about this using vanilla arma
feral gate
@charred meteor You could fake the medical supplies by making them steal a medical truck and bring it to the end point?
charred meteor
Yeah thats what I ended up doing
feral gate
For high level medical-stealing, you could also replace the truck with a Huron/Taru medical pod to airlift out.
prime dome
Or a container filled with FAKs and Medkits
subtle hill
Is there a way to retrieve and view the inbuilt Zeus Gamemodes description.ext?
sinful rampart
yes. They are somewhere in the Arma 3 vanilla pbo's.
I'd say in the Curator folder
missions_f_curator sounds promising
subtle hill
Thanks again :)
nocturne leaf
Dunno if this is the correct room for it, although it is mission making. The Malden update added an old, rust hedgehog/tanktrap, now since the tank update, there is only a new hedgehog/tank trap. Is there anyway to get the rusty one back or would Ijust have to use the lower textured cup ones?
prime dome
you sure they removed it? it was called the czech hedgehog
Land_CzechHedgehog_01_new_F
try spawning that with createVehicle or something?
hollow briar
Hello all, who do I talk to about getting help with editting a Zeus mission?
novel rune
don't ask to ask
hollow briar
I can use Zeus only as long I was logged into the GameMaster-Slot upon starting the map. If I had to rejoin (because of disconnect or other reasons), I can"t enter the Zeus-interface anymore. I would just get a black screen or view of the ocean.
novel rune
Sounds more like an issue with the mission, not zeus specifically.
hollow briar
I don't think so, I copied the module layout just as BIS have it. It works perfectly until someone leaves the zeus slot.
novel rune
"module layout" What does this refer to?
hollow briar
How the Zeus modules are synced
novel rune
I don't think the error is to be found there.
How do you tell the module to be linked to that "gamemaster slot" of yours.
?
novel rune
Let me look into how the module handles this. Sec.
hollow briar
Would you like a copy of the mission?
The copied the modules from the default zeus missions.
novel rune
I can't play Arma atm, laptop and no desktop pc working.
hollow briar
alright
novel rune
That curator module is poorly written, no wonder it's wonky. I'd personally not use the module and script it myself.
//--- Wait for player to stop being Zeus
switch true do {
case (_ownerUID > 0): {
waituntil {
sleep 0.01;
{getplayeruid _x == _ownerVar} count playableunits == 0 || isnull _logic
};
};
default {
waituntil {_player != missionnamespace getvariable [_ownerVar,objnull] || isnull _logic};
};
};
The module actually checks 100 times per second every playable object on the map for it's uid.
Modules are just containers for scripts written by BI, and most of the scripts written by BI are very bad.
hollow briar
The script that you post, is that the Zeus module?
novel rune
Small part of it.
hollow briar
This is the scipt I found that was supposed to fix the issue.
{
if (!isnull (getassignedcuratorunit _x)) then {
_unit = getassignedcuratorunit _x;
if (isnull (getassignedcuratorlogic _unit)) then {
unassignCurator _x;
sleep 1;
_unit assignCurator _x;
};
};
} foreach allcurators;
novel rune
Is this some band aid?
novel rune
Do you play with mods or vanilla?
novel rune
https://gist.github.com/commy2/100bc06fe3bc2c4879ea562f7b8ba9ee
I have this code, which lets you log in as zeus by using #zeus in chat while logged in as admin.
Probably can be repurposed to automatically assign yourself as zeus if a certain slot was chosen upon jip or mission start.
hollow briar
I am trying to get the virtual entities to work so anyone can be zeus
novel rune
So slot based?
novel rune
Can you give me their classname, so I can use those?
novel rune
// init.sqf
if (isServer) then {
["commy_registerCurator", {
params ["_unit"];
private _curator = createGroup sideLogic createUnit ["ModuleCurator_F", [0, 0, 0], [], 0, "CAN_COLLIDE"];
_curator setVariable ["addons", 3, true];
_curator addCuratorEditableObjects [allMissionObjects "", true];
_unit assignCurator _curator;
"Registered as Curator." remoteExec ["systemChat", _unit];
}] call CBA_fnc_addEventHandler;
};
if (hasInterface) then {
0 spawn {
waitUntil {!isNull player};
if (typeOf player == "VirtualCurator_F") then {
["commy_registerCurator", player] call CBA_fnc_serverEvent;
};
};
};
This will enable zeus to work?
novel rune
First part will on the server add a event where a zeus module will be created and assigned to a unit.
Second part will on a client with interface trigger this ^ event with the local avatar if the classname of the avatar is VirtualCurator_F.
But then the modules from the mission are ignored, and all other modules attached to that too.
Idk if that is right for your purpose.
hollow briar
ill try it
hollow briar
It seems to work when I host it but now all the FOBs i made are editable now while ingame. lol @novel rune
novel rune
Yeah, that allMissionObjects line does make it so.
idk, copy pasted this from a place, it's 7 am, don't want to think yet
lament juniper
Hello every body
I try to make a sqf that force AI to keep weapon in holster while its behaviour is safe ; and take the weapon when not safe :D
_unit = _this select 0;
_unit setbehaviour "SAFE";
_behaviour = behaviour _unit;
while {(true)} do
{
switch (_behaviour) do
{
case "SAFE" : { _unit action ["SwitchWeapon", _unit, _unit, -1];};
case "AWARE" : { _unit action ["SwitchWeapon", _unit, _unit, 0]; };
case "COMBAT" : { _unit action ["SwitchWeapon", _unit, _unit, 0]; };
case "STEALTH" : { _unit action ["SwitchWeapon", _unit, _unit, 0]; };
};
};
this is my script but not work properly.
I call this with
null = [this] execVM "myscript.sqf";
in the units init
plz help me 🙇
for more informations : the AI only keep weapon in holster or keep it in hand
thorny holly
Don't know much about scripting but that doesn't look like behavior will change
try with the behavior check in the loop?
lament juniper
hmmmm ... Ok ill try it now
oblique niche
_unit = _this select 0;
_unit setbehaviour "SAFE";
while {(true)} do
{
_behaviour = behaviour _unit;
switch (_behaviour) do
{
case "SAFE" : { _unit action ["SwitchWeapon", _unit, _unit, -1];};
case "AWARE" : { _unit action ["SwitchWeapon", _unit, _unit, 0]; };
case "COMBAT" : { _unit action ["SwitchWeapon", _unit, _unit, 0]; };
case "STEALTH" : { _unit action ["SwitchWeapon", _unit, _unit, 0]; };
};
};
behavior needs ot be checked. Still a "while {true}" is generally a BAD idea.
You also might want to head over to #arma3_scripting
thorny holly
probably need a sleep in there at the very least.
lament juniper
It was really unlikely for me i should cheke it befor ask question 😄
Thanks again
@oblique niche I know but it just for test 😄
thorny holly
I'm left wondering what part of the sentence he edited...
lament juniper
@thorny holly sorry for my English
Im persian
thorny holly
sorry mate, wasn't meant to sound like i was having a go at you!
neon raptor
maybe just _unit setBehaviour "CARELESS"; 😀
grizzled meteor
@hollow briar Did you get it fixed like you wanted? Anyway I found this old stuff I made long time ago because my local mission creator was having the same issue with reaccessing Zeus.. From what I can tell 'zeus' is the game master unit and 'zeus_module' well the module:
// in init.sqf
if (hasInterface) then {
[] spawn {
waitUntil {time > 1};
private _timeout = time + 120;
waitUntil {time > _timeout || !isNil "zeus"};
if (time > _timeout) exitWith {};
waitUntil {!isNull player};
if (player != zeus) exitWith {};
private _jipReceiver = 0; //Fuck it, send to all.
zeus_module remoteExecCall ["unassignCurator", _jipReceiver];
sleep 1.0;
[zeus, zeus_module] remoteExecCall ["assignCurator",_jipReceiver];
};
};```@grizzled meteor The fix that commy posted is a partial fix because it makes all modules and bases placed in the eden editor editable while on the server.
@grizzled meteor What does the script you posted do?
grizzled meteor
@hollow briar I don't remember the exact effect - I don't use Zeus personally. It doesn't modify the object possible, so either (A) You become Zeus with no editable objects, or (B) you can modify the objects as configured in the mission. I don't recall my buddy, who used it, said it changed things, and he was happy for it so I am guessing (B) (though he might have had other scripts running dunno). But try it out otherwise.
hollow briar
thanks, ill try it out. Hopefully it is B
hollow briar
@grizzled meteor It doesn't work
grizzled meteor
@hollow briar I see, that's unfortunate. You did name the units in the editor zeus and zeus_module ?
hollow briar
yeah
novel rune
If you don't want to make all the objects editable, just delete that line with allMissionObjects. It's a script, you can do whatever you want with it.
hollow briar
@novel rune Thanks for your help, I deleted that line and now it seems to work perfectly. Now for some further testing.
signal coral
Hi so for some resson when i put the animation script in the INIT folder of an AI unit it wont work even tho they are not in combat any idea why ?
cinder holly
yes, switchMove needs a sleep before it
signal coral
How do i do that (Im new to mission makking)
hollow pasture
Wondering if anyone has a suggestion for a mission out there that supports 12 players, but is relaxed in pace. Every time we tried a 12+ player mission, forces would advance on us and instantly take us out - all we want is an easy learning mission for a larger group.
prime dome
(for future ref, this would be more suitable to #arma3_questions )
cinder holly
@signal coral a bit "dirty", but should do the trick : if (isServer) then { 0 spawn { sleep 0.01; this switchMove "animationName"; }; } ;
timid geyser
Does anyone have a Alive indexed version of Isla Abramia 3.9, or can I use an outdated version?
cinder holly
@timid geyser don't crosspost please
Delete your post here and in #arma3_editor
and talk about it in #general_chat_arma (I suppose)
sinful rampart
Wow. He spammed in 4 channels. And then left the server
neon raptor
what is "Centurion" ?
if Centurion that is some vehicle
Blindside_fnc_createVehicleCrew = {
params ["_vehicle", "_side", "_deleteEmpty"];
private _group = createGroup _side;
createvehiclecrew _vehicle;
crew _vehicle joinsilent _group;
_group addVehicle _vehicle;
if (_deleteEmpty) then {
_group deleteGroupWhenEmpty true
};
_group
};
private _groupCenturion = [Centurion, east, true] call Blindside_fnc_createVehicleCrew;
if Centurion that is uav and empty
createvehiclecrew Centurion;
crew Centurion joinsilent createGroup east;
if Centurion that is uav and not empty
crew Centurion joinsilent createGroup east;
```one of those ^ options 😀thanks!
feral gate
I think you can just group autonomous units (drones) to different sides the same way you can group characters to other sides. Or you can just make an 'empty' drone in the editor and stick a rifleman of whatever side in it.
signal coral
nope. I tried but grouping the autonomous doesnt work
past hedge
Need a bit of a hand here, I need to make it such that when the player parks his tank in a certain area, the engineers present fix it. how can I do this?
feral gate
Then make the Centurion an Empty Vehicle initially and drop a rifleman of whatever faction in it @signal coral.
errant topaz
Anyone know where I can find missions I've downloaded from the workshop?
In reference to their folder
rapid hatch
what do I need to put on USS Freedom Carrier so players can rearm and refuel their planes? We are using ACE.
feral gate
Objects which have whatever the attribute is that controls refuelling/rearming/repairing enabled placed on the deck somewhere.
Very simply, you can just stick some Huron containers slightly out of the way.
prime dome
Yeah that's the easiest way
neon raptor
maybe there are some easier ways ? 😄
prime dome
Easier than plonking down a few containers? I doubt
neon raptor
you sure ? 😀
like... 100% !!111
that one!
ok i will do exactly that, if something, that will be your fault... 😄 (all good, just joking)
balmy jasper
Does anyone use the vanilla respawn system for custom scenarios?
prime dome
Lol sldt1ck
I do wonder if it's possible to give repair/rearm/heal properties to the carrier itself
neon raptor
yes for vanilla respawn system
balmy jasper
You ever run into any issues? how well does it work for you?
wooden dove
what else would you use tho?
balmy jasper
custom respawn system
wooden dove
well.. sure you could make your own
but it's completely and utterly pointless to do so unless you make your own revive system with it
neon raptor
by system, you mean respawn templates ?
neon raptor
there was issues in bf4, but afaik everything is fixed already
wooden dove
remember kids, if you respawn where you died nothing wrong can happen taps forehead
(use 3 tho, the 2 others are bad)
wooden dove
it doesn't respawn you tho huehuehue
wooden dove
unless you want to do something fancy, but I doubt it
signal coral
Is there any BIG guide on how to make missions in Eden on Steam Guides Internet ore maybe even a book ?
prime dome
Nah mate just the internet
cinder holly
manic osprey
class CfgFunctions {
#include "INC_airPower\cfgFunctions.hpp"
};
{
#include "vcom\cfgFunctions.hpp"
};
Is that right, it's for the description.ext
?
prime dome
ask in #arma3_config
novel rune
Looks wrong to me. Try:
class CfgFunctions {
#include "INC_airPower\cfgFunctions.hpp"
#include "vcom\cfgFunctions.hpp"
};
@novel rune already answered half an houra go in #arma3_config with exactly the same answer
cross-posting is awesome right?
novel rune
Didn't see any answer there. Oh well.
tawny swan
Hey guys, for the people who are more talented at mission creation than me, a moment of your time? https://www.reddit.com/r/armadev/comments/8rbu3l/retexturing_a_placeable_eden_object/
sinful rampart
you need the picture in paa format afaik
And that will only work if the object has hiddenSelections
which is not a must and most objects that don't need them for any reason also don't have them
tawny swan
Ah okay, I'll give the .paa a go but I'm starting to believe that the object just doesn't have a texture that is replaceable. Cheers for your help!
sinful rampart
you can look in the objects config class in config viewer
If it doesn't contain anything about hiddenSelections then it doesn't have any
tawny swan
I have just found it in the config viewer that it has information about hiddenSelections and yet even with a .paa it doesn't seem to wanna work for me
cinder holly
I believe you could use getObjectTextures or something
tawny swan
I think what's happening is since I tried it before with a .jpeg it is still looking for a jpeg file instead of the paa. When I start the mission file it says "could not find file "skulltexture.jpg" even though in the init field for the skull itself I have put "skulltexture.paa". I reckon that's where it's having issues and I don't know why it's even looking for a jpeg when I have checked in every init field, there is no mention of any jpegs...
wooden dove
you simply either didn't save after changing it or forgot one
tawny swan
that's what I thought too, but I exited the mission, exited Arma completely, saved the file. I made sure that I wasn't editing the mission file with the ~tilda in front of the folder name
It's too bloody late for this 😂 gonna try again in the morning. Cheers for the assistance fellas
cinder holly
CTRL+F in mission.sqm… 👀
pine sigil
Hello everyone...I am trying to make a hint for a single player only as he taxi's an A-10 approaching the runway. It currently only works for the entire server, not only the pilot.
Can anyone point me in the right direction perhaps?
playsound "ATC2";
hint format ["%1, this is tower. Hold for taxi onto runway 1",player ];
prime dome
@pine sigil remoteExec it to that unit
both things have local effect
i assume you're using a global trigger?
pine sigil
Yes...Looking at this now
prime dome
make sure the remoteExec only gets run on the server
neon raptor
also maybe this way, set activation to "anyplayer"
on act
0 = (thisList select 0) spawn {
playSound "ATC2";
hint format ["%1, this is tower. Hold for taxi onto runway 1", name _this];
};
@pine sigil
pine sigil
Actually i got it by switching it to this && (vehicle player in thislist). But thank you very much @prime dome and @neon raptor
sage ridge
So the tutorials ive found use the 3den editor. Is there a reason to use that over the vanilla editor?
verbal pagoda
EDEN is the standard now, 2D editor is outdated
cinder holly
☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️
feral gate
@sage ridge, the ability to place things on the vertical axis without having to hit the Init sound good?
cinder holly
anyway, vanilla editor == Eden Editor, 2D editor is legacy
neon raptor
that moment when you trying to align sandbags in 2d editor, so much fun...
hoary lichen
i edited a mission file in notepad
i removed 1 class somewhere because it casued mod error
now it gives error missing"}" on the last line
and crashes
could someone help fix it? (if u can pm me)
i can send the mission to u
i spent like 4-5h making the mission
something to do with AddonsMetaData
prime dome
could you maybe paste the addons[] array on pastebin.com and put the link here?
i'd guess you've missed a comma somewhere or that the last addon in the list has a comma at the end
past hedge
Sorry, I'm not great at this, but can someone show me how to make an AI unit get in an AI transport, ride in it until it reaches a destination, then disembark? thanks.
scarlet ibex
@past hedge You must develop a good understanding of internal vehicle positions and group waypoints. Here's some things to investigate: fullCrew assignCargo assignTurret and associated scripting commands, waypoint types GET IN, MOVE, and LOAD. Also waypointCompletionRadius may come into play if they don't go exactly where you want.
charred meteor
Hey guys I am running my head against a wall getting the tasks in my ravage mission to work, does anyone want to take a look at the file and tell me whats wrong or help me fix it? There are some mods invovled, ravage, rhs, cup and cherno redux
cinder holly
if you can copy-paste the code on a pastebin or something, I can take a look
timber palm
Trying to get a trigger to active an explosion on/from an object. Is there any reason this isn't working?
bomb="1Rnd_HE_Grenade_shell" createVehicle (getPos object1); DeleteVehicle object1;
oblique niche
do you also set the damage of the bomb to 1?
oblique niche
if there is still no explosion, it might be that the created vehicle does not do the desired effect. so you might want to switch it out.
e.g. "DemoCharge_Remote_Ammo_Scripted"
cinder holly
grenade shell doesn't trigger before a certain timer, if it hits the ground immediately it won't blow up
Better spawn a normal grenade, not an underbarrel one
balmy jasper
What's the mod to get all the buildings and everything thats not normally there into 3den
sinful rampart
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=882231372 That's close. But it doesn't say buildings
afaik I have that mod too. But I can only find 3denenhanced and achilles/ares. And all of these say nothing about that in their feature lists
cinder holly
and people playing the mission don't have to have the addon?
valid matrix
Oh sorry, where should I post about this tho?
sinful rampart
#arma3_scripting i'd say
valid matrix
Aight thanks
balmy jasper
Thanks @sinful rampart
brazen sleet
anyone has ideas on how to make a coop mission more tense?
i'm thinking on making coops without respawn or revive but it may backfire since the group is already used to revive
shorter missions without respawn or revive, like one objective and only 30 min of gameplay
my issues are mostly the arsenal (that already extends the mission time by a lot, and i deactivate save features) and that probably people will find it annoying more than tenseful (im already thinking on just putting less AI to make it balanced)
also i don't know if it's better to space out action by slowly giving enemies or just mass the action in a few key points to give a better feel to the mission
anyone has experience with this?
balmy jasper
@brazen sleet More tense? more ai, higher skilled ai, vehicles, mortars, timers ( like objective must be complited in a certain time after combat is initiated )
grizzled meteor
@brazen sleet If you primary focus is to offer an experience rather than a fully "sandbox mission" maybe look into intensity curves. A mission where nothing happens until the very end can be boring. Another mission where there is continous/unbroken activity can get mentally tiresome. So ideally you want multiple things happening regularly but not onstantly. Does not necessarily have to be firefights. E.g. in a stealth mission where players have to travel a bit, have a vehicle drive down a nearby road if there otherwise would be no enemies around. Or fly a UAV over, doesn't have to do any real spotting, but the players don't know that. Add obvious patrols that can easily be bypassed (in addition to your "real" enemies).
prime dome
that's good advice there
i'd say drop a demining charge from that UAV if they don't engage it for too long 😄
brazen sleet
my next idea was to remove revive and respawn
and add a eventhandler for damage that halts damage to a half or 0.25
my problem is that i feel my missions don't have consequences for actions
like you can kill lot of IA or tanks without feeling empowered at all since revive makes death unpunishing
and the only failure is if your team as a whole goes down
that creates the effect that if the group fails then it feels like a shitty session, and if you go down you just know someone will come to revive you so you don't feel threatened at all during firefights
maybe i have some sketchy idea of what feels fun and that my thinking is wrong
grizzled meteor
Respawn/revive and missions for groups are always going be a problem. Even for "hardcore" groups, it is going to be annoying to be the one that died early - or even worse due to Arma "physics". Maybe remove both respawn and death. You always go into revive state, and it takes quite some time to wake you up, 30s+.
Due the the time taking to revive you won't "game" the system during a firefight.
And since you have to wait for someone to revive you - cannot respawn, people won't play "stupid towards the AI" because if everyone goes down, you all lose.
Of course the number of enemies should be appropriate then, no figthing 50+ and 5 tanks + as 5 guys.
brazen sleet
i actually do my missions without respawn and just revive, but my revive is too short (5 seconds at most) and since the group has gone large the revive have become too much of a crutch to play too relaxed like in a shooting range
i think my problem is that in essence i don't know what people wants from arma coops itself
if it's the cooperation or the feeling of danger
cooperation as a team*
prime dome
Which revive system are you using?
grizzled meteor
You have to find out what your audience wants. People want different things. Some people like a good story, others want a "sandbox" mission. Some people want a challenge, others just want to chill.
brazen sleet
the most reliable one i have found is the one used by NeoArmageddon in escape
it's really short and it shows it's made for escape since that mission forces you to move or you die
so the tension is created through the feeling that you have become fixed in a position if someone goes down
prime dome
Oh. BI revive has a "realistic" damage model as well (we use "advanced") which is more unforgiving. On the other hand it's got some issues (a FAK revive and Medkit revive have the same effect, for example)
don't know how it compares
dapper lotus
Does anybody know who makes the wasteland multiplayer missions?
sinful rampart
wasteland? #channel_invites_list King of the Hill & Wasteland?
dapper lotus
Awesome, thanks!
charred meteor
hey guys I am working on the start of mission, I want it to start as a black screen playing a radio message then unfading to the player doing an animation. (in sp) How ever currently I get the sound to play but it then fades out once the black fade in happens. ////Opening scripts animations and shiz playSound "crash"; sleep; 1 [0,"BLACK",3,1] call BIS_fnc_fadeEffect; sleep 5; p1 switchMove "Acts_UnconsciousStandUp_part1"; sleep 1; [1,"BLACK",3,1] call BIS_fnc_fadeEffect;
I cant format right
but you get the jist
sinful rampart
should have turned the effect around
explain what's happening please.
How ever currently I get the sound to play but it then fades out once the black fade in happens. is a little confusing
charred meteor
So mission starts, the sound starts playing, about halfway through the sound cuts as the fade kicks in, cutting the sound short.
I wanting it to play during the black part
sinful rampart
the fade cuts the sound off?
charred meteor
yes
sinful rampart
I don't know how a fade can stop a sound from playing 🤔
charred meteor
beats me aswell, I will keep experimenting
sinful rampart
Don't know any way at all to stop a sound.
neon raptor
BIS_fnc_fadeEffect < will fade sound, music and speech to 0, for just "black screen" >
cutText ["","BLACK OUT"]; //--- black screen
@charred meteor
midnight reef
Anyone know how to create the grayed out silhouette (for destroyed vehicles) in the orbat for a unit? I've seen it used in the Tanks DLC campaign, here's a picture: https://imgur.com/a/hSE0Ybv
trim edge
any idea why a mission won't load the name in the mission selection screen?
not using a description.ext just eden editor
balmy jasper
missing addon on the server
unbinarize and open mission.sqm in your text editor and look for
addons[]=
storm geode
granQ: you mean MP selection screen just shows the mission directory? I had that, tried to decipher why it happens but could not find anything wrong in the mission.sqm or other files. if you figure that out, please let me know too.
neon raptor
try > \☑ binarize in the attributes
sudden snow
Hey question, on my dedicated server how do I set it to where people load into the mission at a specific position rather than just where the respawn module is?
Like load into the position the unit is at in the editor?
mossy lava
Disable respawnOnStart
brazen sleet
how heavy is the performance hit for props like trees and bushes?
i was thinking on using the large terrains from PMC and just adding objects through the editor in the areas i will use
oblique niche
Each (global) object will need to be propagated through network, so each object will have an performance impact. Further ot that each physics enabled object has a larger impact then a none physics enabled object. Your best bet is to use simple objects or if the editor does not allow it, disable damage and simulation (physics and more)
the rest is really dependent on how many players there are, how your server connection to them is and which hardware server and clients are using.
oblique niche
you mean editor placed or map objects?
sinful rampart
yeah they should be.
brazen sleet
editor placed
sinful rampart
there is no answer for "how heavy". What answer do you expect? 5? or.. very? or not very?
it's heaver than having no trees or bushes
and cheaper than using cars or helicopters instead
brazen sleet
mmm i see
oblique niche
iirc some tries you can place are just spawned in as normal "vehicles" and not as simple object, so they can be knocked over. Imo depends on the mission, if it is more infantry centric i would disable sim or spawn them as simple objects at the cost of them not being "killable"
oblique niche
I have also experimented with spawning them in as locla only vehicles and simulation disabled. tho that causes a whole lot of other issues
sinful rampart
https://community.bistudio.com/wikidata/images/thumb/9/96/SimpleObject_PerformanceChart.png/800px-SimpleObject_PerformanceChart.png
There. Trees that you can place count as house
the biggest impact they will have is that they will have to be rendered. And how hard that drops the players fps depends on how good the players computer is
restive bane
for 4 players, what do you think is a good AI count per humans for a objective?
cinder holly
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Do you want a frontal assault, recon, stealth, etc
I usually make a mission with "proper" troops quantity, and/or one I can finish with the AI
restive bane
its with 4 people that i will probably be introducing to arma lol
ill be game master
so ill sorta be helping them out with zeus ai units
oblique niche
my go to was pretty much just 8 enemies per player. however it depends heavily if the enemy hold a fortified location and such
restive bane
seems like a good number. ill try it out
mossy lava
There's such a variety of situations. You can make 2 enemies deadly, or have 20 be fish in a barrel.
If you want an easy scenario, put them in a good position and let them initiate contact. There's not much that won't be overcome by those advantages.
still gust
Yeah, a good first mission is something like an easy ambush. Also lets them figure out AT/explosives placement if you want... or they get to feel cool going hog wild on a bunch of trucks with MGs.
brazen sleet
make a 1 life mission and say jokingly that the first guy to die will get a medal
arctic oasis
Did he
scarlet ibex
Any way of removing the Map tab in the single player mission briefing screen? Also Tasks and Team tab?
Also, how about the map background (especially when player doesn't start with a map, in which case it is black)? And the "Can't connect to positioning system" warning in center of screen when player doesn't have GPS?
turbid maple
best script for toggling Projectile Trace and Bullet Cam in Trigger area
People can select if they want Projectile to be turned on and Bullet Cam to be Off ?
cinder holly
@turbid maple no crossposting please (#rules), also if this is a question please use a question mark ("?"), thanks.
broken tendon
woops wrong channel
prime dome
@turbid maple https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/BIS_fnc_traceBullets and https://www.reddit.com/r/armadev/comments/3zcmz0/bis_bullet_tracing_clear_lines_how_to/.
KillzoneKid also has something related on his blog.
left grail
Hey, i have a addon with multiple contributors but the issue is that in arma3tools publisher , our mod doesnt show up for anyone else then the creator? Is this supposed to be like this?
sinful rampart
Ah you mean no one except the guy who originally uploaded it can upload updates?
left grail
Yes
sinful rampart
Yeah. That's supposed to be like that. Steam's fault
left grail
Any way around it?
sinful rampart
Make a new account, buy arma, give every contributor the password
left grail
And if that's so then why have contributors at all? What can they even do then?
sinful rampart
People have been asking for a better system for years. Valve didn't listen so far
uncut sail
Im trying to create an "outro" if you like where a player hits a trigger and then becomes AI and the end game script starts to run , the Idea is that they are driving down a road and enter the trigger it then switches to the script I have as a camera and the car will continue to drive. is this possible? Ive played missions where at the start the player is walking and the camera zooms in on them and then you take control so how would I go about reversing it?
uncut sail
Also does Show/Hide module work on a trigger itself? as in the trigger is hidden until its activated by another trigger and then can be activated once its "Shown"
sinful rampart
Which Show/Hide module? Triggers can't be hidden as they are never shown
uncut sail
In the game modules, I actually looked at the Entity and it only shows/hides units. Might have to look at it doing a script and create the trigger somehow after they enter an area
sinful rampart
or use the trigger condition to wait till the first one triggered
uncut sail
so im guessing the condition would be something like trig3 = true
sinful rampart
no.
= assigns variables. It doesn't check if true
in your first trigger's action code set a variable. And check that in your second triggers condition
uncut sail
alrighty, cheers
So I've got it as this in the condition to the trigger TriggerActivated trigprisoner and the on activation is nul = execvm "end.sqf";
Nope that doesnt work, or well it does but it just triggers straight away, after "trigprisoner" is hit rather than waiting for the player to activate it and then let the player drive into the next trigger
would this work? TriggerActivated trigprisoner; prisoner in thisList;
uncut sail
Nope not that either, even with the second part in brackets the trigger wont activate
sinful rampart
this && TriggerActivated trigprisoner
uncut sail
still isnt triggering for some reason
sinful rampart
"still isn't triggering" sounds like it never triggered before. But you just said "it just triggers straight away" which sounds like it actually does trigger. So what now?
maybe TriggerActivated trigprisoner && prisoner in thisList
uncut sail
Appologies for the confusion, It did the first time when it was TriggerActivated trigprisoner and it just triggered it straight away, then when I changed it to TriggerActivated trigprisoner; prisoner in thisList; and TriggerActivated trigprisoner; [prisoner in thisList]; It didnt activate. Now that I have changed it to this && TriggerActivated trigprisoner It doesnt activate either
Ill give the one you just suggested now a crack and see what happens, then if its not that Ill have a look into the actual conditions for the trigger, Its currently set to Any Player Present maybe thats it
Nope it didnt trigger again unfortunately, is it maybe because they are in cuff's using the ACE module? I dont think it would cause it but you never know
sinful rampart
They might become civilian if they are cuffed
meaning they won't trigger as blufor
uncut sail
Nope not that either 😦
Might have to go back to the route of creating the trigger when the other one has activated
maybe this && TriggerActivated trigprisoner && prisoner in thisList ? or would that not work?
or TriggerActivated trigprisoner && [prisoner in thisList];
sinful rampart
an array is not a boolean
TriggerActivated trigprisoner && prisoner in thisList should work if you set activation side to any and maybe also any units not just players
uncut sail
Ill give it a shot, standby
Thanks for all your help sofar by the way, I really appreciate it
Nope, still no joy, had the activation on Anybody Present
sinful rampart
dunno then ^^
uncut sail
Its something about the in thisList part, as it works if I remove it, but again, it triggers the script the second trigprisoner is activated
maybe moving the trigger using getmarkerpos would work? that way it still only activates if BLUFOR hit the trigger and only moves into position when the other trigger is activated. like so trigEnd setPos (getMarkerPos "endgametrig");
Does the trick, Thanks for trying though
narrow crest
not sure if I should ask this in scripting or in here, but is there a limit to the number of render-to-textures you can do in a mission? I've got 10 "security cameras" but only 8 will show at a time, and its a random 8, the ones that dont work change every time the mission is launched
robust island
does anyone know how to edit DRO?
cinder holly
DRO?
still gust
Dynamic Recon Ops.
sinful rampart
@narrow crest yes there is a limit
turbid maple
@prime dome Thanks for that reference i used that Reference and got it working , was easy just 2 Lines code in Activation and Deactivation of Trigger
prime dome
Cheers!
turbid maple
There is only 1 issue i am facing , Any player going in that Trigger it activates for everyone and only if everyone leaves the trigger area it than only deactivates the Function and Remove Action statement
@prime dome
** Activation **
player addAction ["Enable Bullet Projectile","[player, 20] spawn BIS_fnc_traceBullets;"]; Hint "You have entered Trigger Area"; player addAction ["Remove bullet traces.", "[player, 0] spawn BIS_fnc_traceBullets; "];
**Deactivation **
[player, 0] spawn BIS_fnc_traceBullets; HintC "you have left the Trigger area"; removeAllActions player;
signal coral
Hey, I was wondering if anyone was around who know about RHS? Specifically the M1085A1P2B (CBPS)?
timber palm
I looked online but it's a bit vague... when I load my game as a Multiplayer game for some reason 1) the player slots do not keep their original name (they revert back to Alpha 1-1) and 2) when the mission goes into a loading screen it says Unnamed Mission instead of the name I have it in the General Tab of 3den.
I have this in the Description:
overviewText = "Codename Muteki";
overviewTextLocked = "Codename Muteki";
overviewPicture = "codenamemutekiloadingscreen.paa";
author = "NovaInfuse";
onLoadMission = "Codename Muteki";
mossy lava
mossy lava
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undone flame
Hi guys, there is any advance on how the memories from remanants of war works?
sinful rampart
someone asked that on the BI forums and I've provided the scripts there. Can't find the link now
sinful rampart
undone flame
there is any test mission with a simple example of this?
signal coral
Not yet. I believe Orange Dlc has been deprotected though, so you could rummage around the pbos until you find the script. It may have a header explaining it.
undone flame
I did that but its seems too complicated. the scripts has mission dependencies from BI and is very complicated to reproduce it in a simple mission
trim edge
ok, if anyone knows what this could be (suspecting corrupt links or similar).. I made a "medium complex" mission, all in Eden editor. It worked great in editor, in "local multiplayer" but didn't load on dedicated server
then i noticed the "mission name" didn't load (so something wrong with the mission)
So of course I deleted all things.. for instance, all bluefor, still no name, all greenfor, no name, all empty, no name, and all civillians, now the name worked again
as I thought i had narrowed it down to civillian, I restorted the mission.. deleted all civillians, but that didn't help
removed all bluefor, still nothing, and all greenfor, now it worked
so then i exported all bluefor to its on mission and all greenforces to its own
both mission loaded the name and I merged them
still worked
then i loaded them back to the mission with my triggers, and it broke again
my only guess is that links information or similar is causing a conflict which I can't resolve in the editor
any other guesses, info? been looking at this for weeks
storm geode
no other guesses, thanks for that info its more than I knew previously.
neon raptor
your mission.sqm is binarized ? @trim edge
trim edge
nope
neon raptor
that is the problem i think
trim edge
hm, omg..
you might be right
mission name working
will check dedicated
could you explain why? is it certain information or length? since it runs nicely in eden editor mode i mean
storm geode
scanning my bugs list, I have one single player campaign which has few missions without names just as same as some missions in dedicated server. so seems like its not even multiplayer related.
neon raptor
iirc after xx (can't tell which one) game update, some of description.ext parameters was added into mission.sqm, so now you can create mission within editor only, no extra files needed... so after that update you have to binarize it...
class Mission
{
class Intel
{
briefingName="@STR_missionName";
overviewText="@STR_overview_text";
/*****************************************************************/
in b4 overviewText was in description.ext...
trim edge
ah didn't know that, thank you
just need to win/loose my rainbow game so i can connect to the arma server (battle eye doesn't like multi tasking as much as I do)
neon raptor
briefingName was added in 1.12
storm geode
so it was a bug on initial arma3 release until fixed in v1.12?
neon raptor
Posted January 11, 2016
Scenarios are now binarized by to save space and improve loading times. Most people will never edit SQM manually, that's why we decided to make it default behavior. Advanced users can toggle this per scenario (in General attributes) or in editor preferences.
Karel Moricky
hm, picture and name still not showing on dedicated server (works when I host locally)
neon raptor
set them in description.ext
trim edge
but still binarize mission that is
storm geode
sldt1ck: was it a bug or what are you saying?
neon raptor
yes ^ and probably still
storm geode
ok. didnt know that, I dont think I have any initial alpha etc release mission.sqm's here to even check it. but anyways briefingName has has been on mission.sqm since OFP (year 2001), so it definitely was a bug in arma3 until v1.12 if it was missing.
also, I have many MP missions and only few, maybe like three or four that has name missing in MP mission selection screen. none of my missions have been binarized. I once accidentally binarized one mission after some arma3 install as it defaulted to binarized mode.
neon raptor
Snake Man,it was not missing, problem was after that update, if you will not duplicate briefingName in description.ext, it will just show the pbo name on dedicated...
with or without binarization...
so in short... add briefingName in description.ext and set mission name in the attributes, click binarize, problem solved... 🤷
(also with localizations that is the only way iirc)
neon raptor
hm, picture and name still not showing on dedicated server (works when I host locally)
that's because when you connect to the server and select slot, you do not have mission file yet, when you will press ok/continue you will start downloading file from the server... and after you will dowload it, everything will show up as expected
@trim edge
prime dome
btw, not sure which name you folks mean
but if you're talking about the name on the loading screen, then you need the onLoadName variable set in description.ext
if it's the name on the mission list, then the name in the scenario properties in eden (or what sldt1ck said)
brazen sleet
you don't need a binarized mission sqm for dedicated
but you shouldn't have tildes on the name
also if the mission doesn't load then probably the server doesn't have the mods or your using an island that show errors
like a model doesn't load up, that type of stuff
errant topaz
When it comes to waypoints, when I change the AI's speed and awareness for example on the waypoint, does that mean they will change to those new params AFTER then pass over it?
So for example
WP 1 (safe) ------------------ > WP2 (Aware) ---------------------> WP3 (Combat)
Will the AI be SAFE up until WP2, then change to AWARE up until WP3 etc etc?
Or
Will the AI be AWARE up until WP2, then change to COMBAT up until WP3 etc etc?
neon raptor
afaik just after wp becomes currentWaypoint all of the wp settings applies to group... statements expressions will be executed after conditions are "fulfilled" and waypoint is done...
quiet sedge
does anyone know how to make the various karts modules work?
narrow abyss
does anyone know how to make those map markers that when hovered over, it shows a vehicle composition?
verbal pagoda
I believe your referring to the ORBAT module?
errant topaz
Does anyone know whether the 'support' waypoint works for soley AI?
the AI squad I've got down is not supporting the AI when they get under attack. This is for the enemy faction not my own
sharp axle
Support waypoint, I believe is for logi/medic stuff
Basically you attach it to a unit, and the AI will know they can ask the AI for support. Like bringing a med truck over and such.
signal coral
Kim is talking about ORBAT I believe, yes, with vehicles added to the markers. See: https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/ORBAT_Viewer
feral gate
@tulip raptor Is your mission intended to be Offensively or Defensively paced?
If Offensive, place enemies somewhere, maybe include a Reinforcement force. Ensure player(s) can reach the expected combat zone in a reasonably fast timeframe.
If Defensive, give the player(s) at least half a minute to set up, and then throw enemies at them.
For mission making, it's best to start off simple to make sure your missions work first attempt, and then work up in complexity.
restive bane
any ideas on how to make ai that is driving a boat transition between waypoints smoothly? they just seem to stop at them and then move.
cinder holly
@restive bane set a completion radius, it should help smoothing the transition
balmy jasper
@restive bane
// Makes heli fly to a random position around the player
ten_trans_fnc_patrol = {
params [['_target',objNull],['_heli',objNull]];
_heli = [[0,0,0],_heli] call ten_trans_fnc_findHeli;
// if no target, fly around itself
if (isNull _target) then {
_target = _heli getVariable ['ten_trans_patrol_target',_heli];
};
_heli setVariable ['ten_trans_patrol_target',_target,true];
_heli flyInHeight 150;
_heli flyInHeightASL [150,150,150];
private _group = (group (driver _heli));
_group call ten_trans_fnc_reset;
// create 9 waypoints
for '_i' from 0 to 8 do {
private _pos = (getpos _target) getpos [(350),(60*_i)];
private _wp = _group addWaypoint [_pos,0];
_wp setWaypointCompletionRadius 350;
_wp setWaypointType 'MOVE';
_wp setWaypointBehaviour 'SAFE';
_wp setWaypointSpeed 'NORMAL';
// 6th waypoint will run the same function again
if (_i == 6) then {
_wp setWaypointStatements ['true','
private _heli = vehicle this;
[objNull,_heli] call ten_trans_fnc_patrol;
'];
};
};
};
I had similar thing, for heli
setWaypointCompletionRadios 350;
that one did it for me
errant topaz
@edgy edge Has anything changed from this engine wise?
I can't get this to work for the life of me
brave dome
Hello. How would I go about changing a units name with zeus in-game. I have the debug mode on so I can edit init for units but the "this setname ["Jack Palmer","Jack","Palmer"];" init isn't doing it for zeus.
restive bane
also i think im using group variables wrong. if i have a squad and i set its variable name to "a1" and i want to disable the ai for movement with a trigger, would it be:
a1 disableai "move" ?
cause it returns a generic error
timid plume
Yes, because assigning a variable name to a group doesn't equate to the units in the group
even if it did i do not think disableAI takes array as left parameter
so you could do:
{
_x disableAI "move";
} forEach (units a1);
do i have to type those brackets? or could i just write in the init box, _x disableAI "move"; foreach (units a1);
i dont know much programming, i just understand some logic
timid plume
Yes, the brackets indicate the code executed for each tested element in the array for the forEach
_x is a magic variable that equates to the currently tested variable in the array given for forEach
Here is the wiki article if you can make more sense of that: https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/forEach
restive bane
ok that makes sense i think i got it. which init box would you put the initial disable ai? the squad init or what? then have a trigger for the enableai when a player moves into that?
timid plume
You can initialize this anywhere
restive bane
it works perfectly for what i'm doing. thank you! i've been trying to learn by reverse engineering some other peoples missions.
timid plume
Yeah no worries, that's a good way to start.
restive bane
probably shouldnt do campaign missions though. those are SUPER advanced lol
timid plume
All in due time I guess :)
restive bane
@timid plume if i want the player to join a AI lead group "a1" then is the command "[player] join a1" on the trigger?
timid plume
you're in sp correct? If so, then yes. player works locally for each client in mp
when you can, start moving away from triggers. They limit your potential for features later on down the line.
restive bane
yeah i didnt have the [] which is why i was getting an error. what would you use instead of triggers?
timid plume
Yeah, the join command is Binary so it takes a left and right parameter. The required left parameter being an array. Instead of using triggers? It depends. you can execute init scripts inside a init.sqf in the root of your mission folder and from there start to use initPlayerLocal and initPlayServer appropriately
it's a lot cleaner this way and if someone decides to crack open your mission they can understand where to find what works where
This is also a handy link : https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Description.ext , you can use this to define entries for CfgFunctions . That way you can just call or spawn a function without having to rewrite code everywhere
(hopefully it's not a whole lot to put on you, but it's important if you want to start making missions)
For example, say I want to have a unit move to a safe position and join a group after it's squad has died.
I can make it into a function and then call it whenever I need to. Not that you couldn't already have done this before, but it's not practical to be copying / pasting the same code in triggers
restive bane
that coding is a little advanced for me atm
im looking to make the squad leader get in a helo after the area is clear of enemies. how would i do this with triggers and waypoints?
thinking maybe using the !alive command and adding the units I want to it
cinder holly
@delicate spoke evvvvvv'rythinggg
neon raptor
(つ°_°)つ help... also you can try > fix 👌
quiet rapids
... there's a #arma3_troubleshooting . Nevermind. Sorry guys.
rapid hatch
I've seen official tanks dlc campaign giving player a support request "engage" to ground units. How can we do the same? As far as I know, support modules are for artillery, cas and alike.
Around 3:15
feral gate
I don't know how to get commands like that into the Support menu, but the Radio triggers work the same way - aside from being accessible to absolutely everyone in MP.
Place Trigger, place Squad, Make Trigger Activation Radio Alpha, make Trigger Type Skip Waypoint, add a Hold Waypoint to Squad, Sync Waypoint with Trigger, then so on and so forth.
neon raptor
How can we do the same? As far as I know, support modules are for artillery, cas and alike...
check this > https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/BIS_fnc_addCommMenuItem
and this > https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_Communication_Menu
@rapid hatch
so you can create anything with it... all of those "supports" will be avaible with comm menu..
rapid hatch
Thanks!
modern plinth
hey guys, can someone guide me on how to make ia takeoff on ground (not on an airstrip) ?
past hedge
Do you mean off dirt or something? @modern plinth In what aircraft?
modern plinth
Yes, Vanilla / mods, does it change something ? If yes, ifa 3 planes
past hedge
Well I have seen AI take off from large, flat pieces of non-airstrip land, eg; ochrolimni, but only the vanilla planes from Apex are able to take off from a rough terrain
the civillain ones.
celest pelican
Is it simple enough to create a mission where the player is led by an AI squad leader? Or are they more difficult than normal missions?
past hedge
I'd say it's easier
Because the squad can follow default waypoints in editor rather than using special set-up mission goals.
celest pelican
Might give it a go then. I enjoy playing SP missions but hate controlling the AI so feel like theres a need for missions where you can just be a cog in the machine
rapid hatch
campaign mission uses unit markers that are showing unit composition on mouse over, how did BI do that?
is it ORBAT thing?
feral gate
You can do it using modules in the editor, but I've not bothered figuring out how yet
rapid hatch
which modules?
@feral gate - this? https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_Animated_Briefing
rapid hatch
cheers
timid plume
ORBAT Viewer was not new with TacOps
hollow halo
hi I'm having an issue where AI spawned using BIS_fnc_spawnGroup absolutely refuse to enter their group vehicle
rf1 = [ getMarkerPos "r1", EAST, (configFile >> "CfgGroups" >> "East" >> "CFP_O_SOREBEL" >> "Motorized" >> "cfp_o_sorebel_motorized_truck_squad")] call BIS_fnc_spawnGroup; rf2 = [ getMarkerPos "r2", EAST, (configFile >> "CfgGroups">> "East" >> "CFP_O_SOREBEL" >> "Motorized" >> "cfp_o_sorebel_motorized_dshkm_technical")] call BIS_fnc_spawnGroup; wp0 = rf1 addWaypoint [getMarkerPos "rf1", 0, 0]; wp0 setWaypointType "GETIN NEAREST";wp0 setWaypointBehaviour "CARELESS"; wp1 = rf1 addWaypoint [getMarkerPos "oobj_alpha", 0, 1]; wp2 = rf2 addWaypoint [getMarkerPos "obj_alpha", 0]; wp1 setWaypointSpeed "FULL";wp2 setWaypointSpeed "FULL" ; wp1 setWaypointCombatMode "RED"; wp2 setWaypointCombatMode "RED";
ive tried using both LOAD & GETIN NEAREST
cinder holly
have you tried applying this script to editor units?
storm geode
its automatic, give them a waypoint, they board and then start to move.
storm geode
CFP_O_SOREBEL nice units you're using 😉
hollow halo
yeah i considered might be something up with cfp?
storm geode
no idea. I so far have used standard CUP, only did couple of editor tests with CFP.
cinder holly
try with Vanilla unit first, let's see if it still errors
hollow halo
vanilla unit, editor placed: loads most of the dude then speeds off leaving 3 behind...
i think it might just be Arma AI at work
storm geode
maybe just a bad config, more characters in the group than the vehicle has cargo slots?
hollow halo
Nah its the vanilla MSE madrid
vanilla unit, script spawned: apc speeds off without infantry
storm geode
how long distance is the first waypoint?
hollow halo
About 2km?
The first MOVE waypoint that is
Tried setting to careless, same result
At this point i might just spawn them a little closer and let them walk
storm geode
damn you're right. tested on eden editor placed group; they board and vehicle speeds off, all good. then used: sqf _grp = [(getPos player), WEST, (configFile >> "CfgGroups" >> "West" >> "CUP_B_US_Army" >> "Mechanized" >> "CUP_B_US_Army_MechanizedReconSection")] call BIS_fnc_spawnGroup; _grp addWaypoint [(getPos pmc_location), 50]; [_grp, 1] setWaypointBehaviour "AWARE"; [_grp, 1] setWaypointCombatMode "RED"; [_grp, 1] setWaypointSpeed "FULL"; [_grp, 1] setWaypointFormation "WEDGE"; [_grp, 1] setWaypointType "MOVE"; [_grp, 1] setWaypointCompletionRadius 50;
and characters will not board the vehicle, they all start to move towards the waypoint. hum.
storm geode
hmm actually yeah arent all AddWaypoint created waypoints by default type move. getin? no its automatic. there is no getin waypoint in editor placed units either.
hollow halo
There is "LOAD" but it doesnt seem to work
storm geode
the old traditional transport load / getin stuff needs two groups and waypoints synchronized, I very rarely used that method. that is unrelated to this issue where characters wont board vehicle in their own group.
neon raptor
maybe just create vehicle > vehicle crew > cargo group > mount or order > waypoints or move/domove
errant topaz
The following ---> group enableAttack false; ---- doesnt seem to work on in a squad init, however ----> this enableAttack false ----> works on a squad. Just curious if this is the right way to do it?
cinder holly
@errant topaz it may need a little sleep beforehand, try maybe
delicate spoke
0 = this spawn { sleep 0.001; _this enableAttack false; };```@cinder holly Cheers for that mate! Is there a way I can see if its actually working? Like a hint "active"; or something?
cinder holly
attackEnabled I think
errant topaz
I'll see what I can do
cinder holly
0 = this spawn { sleep 0.001; _this enableAttack false; if (not attackEnabled _this) then { hint "attack is successfully disabled!"; }; };```
😉Ok well that seems to work 😃 Now I have to apply this (or your non hint version) to every infantry squad
cinder holly
to allGroups ?
in init.sqf:
sleep 0.01;
{ _x enableAttack false; } forEach allGroups;```try without the sleep, just to be sure it wasn't a mistake at one point
@errant topaz
errant topaz
I hear that the enableAttack makes the Squad Leads not issues orders, so the AI can more freely engage in combat without having the SL make everyone lie down for no reason at all etc
balmy jasper
If 1 member of the squad is not in formation, they will be a lot slower
if 1 ai get shot in leg and is crawling slowly, it will slow the whole squad down if they are trying to keep formation
Use full speed if you want units to not stick to formation
signal coral
Guys so i made a mission however suddenly when i want to start up the mission file it says im missing an addon i typed the missing addon in the browser but it didnt show anything so i cant recover my op save unless you help me can somebody give me a link to what this addon could posible be ik it has something to do whith VSM vests and project zennith it says this : VSM_Zenith_Vests_Config
signal coral
How do i do that im sorry im just realy new to makking missons
signal coral
In game ore on the windows ?
prime dome
Mission.sqm should be in the mission folder located in Documents/Arma 3/missions or mpmissions
Windows
safe wing
dumb question, is there a way to disable the auto reveal of enemies on the map? where it shows a unit on a player's map because your character AI has seen them.
storm geode
dont play as recruit difficulty level.
never seen any scripting mission making option to disable that.
prime dome
should be one of the difficulty settings i think
disable mapContent https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_Difficulty_Menu
pulsar harness
Hello guys, i am curently making some PvP scenario wich we tested tonight but its not working properly becouse of triggers. Idea of scenario is to have "Object" wich needs to be secured spawning on different location, player of certain faction needs to be in "precondition" trigger around it and activate addAction "Secure Object", after it i will activate second trigger, called "condition" wich should initialize hint wich says "Object is secure, keep it for 30 minutes!" but it only appears for the guy who activated the action. "Condition" trigger is condition for next trigger called "present_x" (i have one for blufor and another for opfor) wich will activate with coundown of 30 minutes and in its init it will call for "end6" call BIS_fnc_endMission; wich in the end again is only executing for the guy whom activated first trigger, and it makes him go to lobby while we dont get any end.
Does anyone has idea where i am going wrong and why my triggers not run globaly on my dedicatet server?
feral gate
Not familiar with this, but Triggers do include a 'Run only on Server'(paraphrased) tickbox. Check that, might fix it.
pulsar harness
I did tried that one, with it there was no hints for anyone.
signal coral
How can I include a mission inside an addon? That is, I already have an addon, but I want to include a mission with it.
sinful rampart
I think Arma 3 Samples has a campaign example
Huge Deja'vu right now.
Yep Arma 3 Samples\Scenario_Design\Example_Campaign
Think if you make them MP missions they also show up in the mission list on a server
signal coral
Sweet, thanks man.
prime dome
@pulsar harness have a look at command locality on the wiki
opal hound
I want to use Gnat's cessna pbo directly in my mission. How can I do this so that users do not have to DL the plane? If it's possible,....could you also provide me with the init line of code if I am thinking along the correct idea. As a rookie Iwas thinking I could just place the folder with the PBo and bikey in the root of my mission and then call it in the init
If I have success with this, I also want to try the same thing with Realweather mod
timid plume
signal coral
Looking for someone to make me a mission. Will pay
sinful rampart
@signal coral #creators_recruiting
signal coral
whoops ty
little berry
Thanks for linking me @timid plume. I've been trying to sort the mission out now. The mission trigger is working, but there are some more issues. I'll work on that tomorrow and see what happens
quiet rapids
Hello - why does ACE require SUCH special treatment to it?
It won't work on Listen servers without desync that causes weapons to 'spool up' aka fire slowly and accelerate over time (Even when they're reloading),
the same thing happens on my dedicated server that I used TADST for
Setting up headless clients is so fucking confusing I want to blow my brains out
and I don't know why I would NEED one for a dedi server I'm hosting on my computer in the first place
Other than the fact it APPARENTLY, POSSIBLY alleviates ACE desync problems
People say "Oh your computer just can't handle it! 😄 :D" but I'm never past 25% CPU or 40% RAM even during intense things
I am so frustrated -- very sorry for it -- but I've been trying to get this to work for 3 weeks.
My players are asking when the next session is but they also want ACE and I am trying to figure things out but I'm not Arma expert.
I just need help please. I'm sorry for frustration.
ionic thorn
https://ace3mod.com
All the info you'll need about ACE in one handy place.
sinful rampart
Setting up headless clients is so fucking confusing I want to blow my brains out heh yeah.. Without ACE you need to find some headless client mod that takes care of distributing AI's. With ACEX you just add a HC slot and done.
but I'm never past 25% CPU or 40% RAM even during intense things That's just Arma. Not ACE.
I have no problems with ACE whatsoever ¯_(ツ)_/¯
grizzled meteor
@quiet rapids The thing with weapons "spooling" up is hard to diagnose. It has nothing do with ACE on its own. The guys I play with, have no problems running ACE or intense battles without the problem. But we have a custom AI run by a half-full server rack. If we dump extract too much information too quickly from Arma we get the weapons spooling up problem - so we have to reduce the amount of information extracted, and it happens less frequently. At this stage my best conclusion is that it is the Arma server itself under certain loads, it exhibits that problem. We spent hours trying to nail down the problem by disabling mods, but none that had an effect in our case.
But if anyone knows the real cause of weapons "spooling up", I would be very interested.
quiet rapids
@grizzled meteor I've noticed the ONLY time it happens is with ACE, and it's only ACE. Even with no mods and only ACE, it will do the spool up problem if there are more than 5 (about) NPCs around, even if they are far away. Even if you gut ACE entirely, and have, for example, only ACE Medical working, it still does the spool up. And I mean gut as in remove the PBOs et cetera. However, if no NPCs are around, ACE works fine.
No NPCs around as in, no NPCs in the game at all.
Is there anything you can recommend that may alleviate this?
grizzled meteor
No not sure what you can do. The only other reference I could find to this problem was being having slightly different version of sound mods. But in our case it was as mentioned nothing to do with audio mods.
quiet rapids
Ugh. Well, thank you for the help regardless.
I hope somebody else can help pipe in. I'm at a complete loss.
grizzled meteor
@quiet rapids Just to be clear, this is what you are referring to right? https://ytcropper.com/cropped/vI5b4229f2cad40
quiet rapids
@grizzled meteor literally exactly that
they could be reloading, and still firing a spool up full auto
grizzled meteor
Yeah. Get's quite confusing when people go in room clearing, come out and from your perspective they are shooting at you, or the ground, etc..
quiet rapids
Yeah. I have no way of fixing it
I don't use custom AI even
I do not want to pay for a dedicated server host
my computer can handle it easily - without ACE, it runs perfectly, even with 2 headless clients (that I THINk work .. though I think not)
but it just .. gets so awkward with ACE, even if no modules are running
it just .. stops full auto
signal coral
Fine, don't like, don't use it 🤷
feral gate
^It's non-intended gameplay for ACE, @signal coral. If it's not working properly, it's not about liking it or not.
signal coral
Sure, works for everyone but him, obviously ACE it's bugged
feral gate
"Even with no mods and only ACE, it will do the spool up problem"
He might have messed up the install somehow, but the issue's there.
although I wonder if he disabled CBA.
@quiet rapids Did you?
quiet rapids
@feral gate CBA was enabled along with ACE for the test. I originally forgot, but I couldn't launch the server with ACE and not CBA and I went "ohh, duh, I'm dumb"
I've purchased a dedicated Arma server with unlimited memory (or so they say)
I spent all night putting the mods, etc in, configuring everything
I'm just waiting for my friend to get on to test if there's a full auto bug.
If my computer can't handle it, surely a dedicated server can.
Takes the load off my computer.
prime dome
The full auto bug... I wonder if it's related to the reloadSpeed AI sub skill 🤔
I've never seen it, but apparently setting it to less than 1 causes issues for players
quiet rapids
So.
Turns out a dedicated server
purchased
does not fix the full auto bug
amazing.
it's purely to do with ace
I am INCREDIBLY angry.
signal coral
Certainly, it's bugged, don't use it.
Wow, an AI just dumped a 100 round mag in full auto, just my lucky day I guess 🤷
feral gate
🤷
delicate hinge
¯_(ツ)_/¯
feral gate
All I can suggest on the subject is going nuclear on ArmA's files and whatnot
32bit/64bit?
quiet rapids
64bit.
Like, this dedicated server isn't hosted on my computer. It originally was but I figured "oh maybe it's my computer that's the problem"
so i send it to an ACTUAL server, y'know, MEANT to handle these things
literally nothing changed
delicate hinge
most calculations are still done client side aren't they?
quiet rapids
I'm not sure myself
And if they are, I don't know what would be the place to modify
delicate hinge
With arma architecture it would not make sense if balistics would be calculated on server.
feral gate
Rather than modify, I'd say reset to default. 'Go nuclear'.
quiet rapids
Reinstall arma?
delicate hinge
So either your pc can't handle ballistics or you fucked something up.
feral gate
Reinstalling might be a start, since Verification is iffy
quiet rapids
I even tested - I had 70 mods on my server, mostly items etc. All of them working on dedi server
No ACE -- Just fine
But the moment I put ace on - problems.
ACE alone - problems.
And furthermore, this only happens primarily when there are NPCs in the game, no matter how far away they are.
If there are no NPCs, there is no spool up.
At least, from what I tested on a blank canvas mission.
The rpt log does not note any of the ballistics, of course
Just an endless spam of:
Server: Object 2:619 not found (message Type_121)
Server: Object 2:619 not found (message Type_93)
once the server is running, I'm on, and I'm just there.
Nothing happens out of it
but there are about 200 lines of it
quiet rapids
Alright.
I don't know if it would help, but here's the RPT file: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7l9axp8hztke6ii/arma3server_x64_2018-07-09_06-00-26.rpt?dl=0
sinful rampart
I'd say what I heard so far. A Fired EH from ACE could be causing that. But that shouldn't get faster the more you shoot. Unless CPU cache
quiet rapids
The CPU didn't spike at all during full auto fire attempts.
Nor did the server memory reach its max.
It's just .. odd.
quiet rapids
Fair -- and please forgive me for being so .. unhelpful during all this. I'm not the best at this stuff.
sinful rampart
unless vsync
quiet rapids
But if we're using ace - the one not just from workshop, but the one provided by the server host which takes it from workshop - why would it not be able to process the full auto?
Wouldn't so many other servers have this problem too?
sinful rampart
shooting speed is not related to the server
quiet rapids
Hm
sinful rampart
As I said. It's probably a firedEH on the client. But that should only take longer the first maybe 2 shots
quiet rapids
No, it's the entire time
It looks like this, contributed by a nice person up above: https://ytcropper.com/cropped/vI5b4229f2cad40
YOUR full auto si fine
but perception of others .. it spools up, until it reaches the amount of bullets fired,
the people can even be reloading mid-fullauto
it'll still shoot,
as well I've noticed movement is a bit more desynced when full autoing, at least at the very beginning
sinful rampart
Can't see anything weird in the video. Maybe it's only hearable. I don't have audio
Amount of bullets you can shoot depend on your fps. low fps == low shooting
if your fps increases while you shoot. Your firerate also increases.
quiet rapids
I promise you my friends have good FPS.
But that's not the problem, what you're saying.
Say a person with an M249 fires a full 100 round belt full auto, reloads, and then fires another 100 round belt.
To them, that 100 round belt will go as per normal. The reload will as well, as well as the subsequent 100 rounds.
To myself, and others viewing him, their fire rate will start at a round per second .. escalating to 2. .. 5 ... 10 ... 15 .. 30 .. etc etc.
sinful rampart
Arma is batching network packets together if there are too many
quiet rapids
They could literally be in the reload animation, and their gun is firing off.
Ah?
Hmmm.
sinful rampart
It see's that many packets are coming in. So it waits till it got a bunch of them together. And then sends all in one go
quiet rapids
Is there a way to change that?
maybe changing Guaranteed/Nonguaranteed byte rates? (I have no idea.)
sinful rampart
think so yeah
quiet rapids
Are you sure? I kinda just threw that out there haha
sinful rampart
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/basic.cfg#Performance_Tuning_Options
increase MaxMsgSend. Set maxBandwidth properly (serverside)
You couuuld reduce MaxSizeGuaranteed. But I wouldn't recommend
quiet rapids
MinBandwidth=800000;
MaxBandwidth=25000000;
MaxMsgSend=384;
MaxSizeGuaranteed=512;
MaxSizeNonguaranteed=256;
MinErrorToSend=0.003;
MaxCustomFileSize=100000;
Do you have alternate recommendations? This is what was present while doing the full auto test that failed.
That, is, by the way, the entirety of the basic.cfg, other than language setting at English.
and adapter=-1
sinful rampart
You could try setting MaxSizeGuaranteed to 256. Like the nonguaranteed
sinful rampart
it would affect what I described previously
sinful rampart
could yeah.
quiet rapids
1024?
sinful rampart
yeah. Need to try. It's probably fine
quiet rapids
Okay.
sinful rampart
But I'd just say why even care. All it influences is the sound you hear. The bullet firing speed itself and the bullets flying are not influenced by that
quiet rapids
Saved -- I'll try with this new maxsizeguaranteed and increased maxmsgsend.
And yes they are actually.
sinful rampart
bullets are clientside.
quiet rapids
I'll have to do a double test.
Because I remember my friend firing at an AI and the bullets only hitting at the spooling up fire rate.
I'll do another test.
sinful rampart
yes. Because the bullet hit messages are also grouped up for you
quiet rapids
The light desync with movement happens at the same time as full auto, as well
They'll shift around in sudden motions
grizzled meteor
@sinful rampart To see the issue in the video I linked. Each empty two clips on full auto. Look on the walls to the right, how slow the rate of impact is compared to my fire. Also as I am walking behind them, they done shooting (locally for them), but on my screen the gun is firing while reloading.
But yeah, it is not game breaking, but immersion breaking.
Gets me everytime: "Why is our LMG single-shotting again?"
I believe it is network related. But not sure why it then happens. Surely there is no reason to send as guaranteed. And if the message does not get there, or in time, it might as well be dropped / not processed.
quiet rapids
It is game breaking for me
I just did a test with my friend
I set 3 NPCs in front, told him to full auto all three with his M249
it took the entire belt to kill them, and you could see the delayed impacts
like, when the npc was killed, you'd see my friend still full autoing where his body WAS, along with the 20+ bullet impacts hitting mid air
this is absolutely game breaking
grizzled meteor
Did the AI die quickly, or not until the bullet started appearing?
quiet rapids
the AI did not die quickly at all
It was incredibly delayed - the AI should have been dead in under five seconds
instead, it took 20-25 seconds of full auto fire before they fell over, one by one
point blank, m249, full auto
grizzled meteor
Okay, that is game breaking. Was this dedicated server or hosted?
quiet rapids
https://puu.sh/ATqO0/2dce3a2b9e.png
The link above is a reference to show CPU usage during him full-auto, along with memory. Memory is that high just because of arma, did not spike or lower due to these actions, and I have much more memory than that says
This is a dedicated server hosted at a, well, a host.
This is not a server hardware performance issue, I don't think
What I'm doing is a prolonged test --
The person spooled up still, but the shots still eventually accelerated up to the proper full auto, and things looked normal
I'm thinking that maybe, it only spools up once
So I'm having him wait ten minutes, have the server do nothing for ten minutes
just idling, with parameters/NPCs etc around
and then, in ten minutes, have him full auto at NPCs again .see if the sudden change in packets causes the spool up again
If he does not suddenly desync again, then perhaps I've fixed it to where it only spools up at the beginning
prime dome
(btw this is probably #arma3_troubleshooting at this point)
quiet rapids
Ah, sorry, sorry.
Would you like me to go there?
Ah -- I'll finish off by saying that the test again failed.
We waited ten minutes, and immediately jumped back into fighting 3 AI, telling my friend to full auto.
The desync came back immediately, and his gun once more spooled up, proving that this doesn't just happen at the beginning of the mission.
I'm at a complete loss.
sinful rampart
I believe it is network related. But not sure why it then happens. Surely there is no reason to send as guaranteed. And if the message does not get there, or in time, it might as well be dropped / not processed.
Dropping gun shots is a bad idea
Not hear shot. No muzzle flash. No bullet flying/crack. No impact. But you suddenly just die out of nowhere
quiet rapids
Hm
prime dome
Oh shit I wonder if that's what's been happening to us sometimes 🤔
Just hear the impacts, suddenly die
prime dome
@quiet igloo no spam, please
coral mirage
@quiet igloo please remove that post
delicate hinge
fer i pinged u in scripting but nvmnd i see you have seen this.
sinful rampart
@coral mirage he is still spamming over tons of channels
delicate hinge
👌🏽
coral mirage
shot in the face
mossy lava
He got smoked.
sinful rampart
FM got notified like.. 4 times or so 😄
coral mirage
Why do people do this? Don't they know they are going to get FM's hammer or my Makarov?
feral gate
Practice makes perfect!
There's a zeus mod, Achilles, that you might be interested in as well.
stuck sable
@nova solstice, I might be your huckleberry. PM me your requirements.
tulip raptor
So here's a random question: When designing a scenario to be played as zeus co-op, what kind of balance should I be looking at between placing down units in EDEN versus placing the enemy squads in the zeus interface while the players are gearing up?
north loom
quick question east Opfor right?
feral gate
East is OPFOR (for ArmA), yes.
north loom
thx
prime dome
@tulip raptor there is no right answer, depends on how much time you want as a Zeus to put stuff down, and how impatient your players are
balmy jasper
@tulip raptor Unless you are using a mod or a script which moves units from your client to the server or Headless client.
Place down at least the ones you need for the first objective the players will hit
I'd also recommend to place 1 of every enemy unit you will place throughout the mission in the beginning
So there is less stuttering when you place the units
sinful rampart
Added: Ability to export editor mission to SQF script. Calling such script will dynamically recreate the mission.
Dev branch changelog.
Do you guys remember Arma 2 times of placing things in the 3D editor, then exporting it as script and running that script in your init.sqf just to get nicely placed objects? :D
No we got it back
neon raptor
also was mission.biedi format and "almost 3d editor" in a3 alpha, i hope we will miss that return... 😃
btw Dedmen + Dedmuuuuuuhn = Dedmuhmen 😄
signal coral
Hello all. have a question in regards to settings. Is there a way on a dedicated server to set certain ACE settings to overide any mission placed on the Server? instead of manually going through and changing all your missions on the server
patent pawn
@signal coral I have a dedicated server, but I basically copied the whole framework from someone else. Don't know much about it myself, but this is one way of doing it.
https://github.com/CBATeam/CBA_A3/wiki/CBA-Settings-System
Userconfig is what you're looking for. If I'm wrong, someone please correct me.
signal coral
yea tho i have done that i placed the ACE settings inside the Userconfig, but it wont overwrite the missions on the server.
Im not very familiar with all this stuff , feel like im groping in the dark here lol
patent pawn
What about this "If a mission setting is set to overwrite the clients, it also overwrites the server by default. This can be changed by clicking the Overwrite Mission checkbox." under Server Settings in https://github.com/CBATeam/CBA_A3/wiki/CBA-Settings-System
signal coral
Recreate the mission? That.. wha? Like, everything? Modules, mission name, named units? If so that's nutty.
mortal zealot
Hi there mission makers, I've started using the eden editor to create my own encounters. I'm able to make some very basic commands for the units, but having trouble making the missions more robust. I've watched quite a few youtube guides on how to use the editor, but frankly they all are kind of "the same" and don't go into to much detail in to what each waypoint does. Additonally, i've been referencing the wiki, however I think I need to "see the feature in action" to really understand some of the functions before the wiki will be of much more use to me.
Does anyone have any good resources they point newbies, when it comes to the eden editor - that goes into the waypoints, systems, and trigger systems in detail?
oh i see the editor channel. I'm going to move my post down there
tulip raptor
THe gurus here can probably offer some tips. As a fellow newbie I'm sort of sidestepping the problem by designing zeus co-op missions. A lot of the more complex reactive AI can be tasked to another player in real time rather than having to figure it out in EDEN.
@mortal zealot What kind of encounters are you creating specifically and what kind of complex actions are you attempting to achieve?
mortal zealot
Well that's a great question. Ideally, I'd like to be able to set up multiple objectives that my squad will need to accomplish. So essentially what i'm doing now is setting up 2-5 "seek and destroy" waypoints that my squad is commanded to do. i then set up the enemies to guard waypoint the spaces that I'm seek-and-destroying, with a trigger tied to the guard for CSAT to defend.
I'd like to make the enemies, on queue (whenever/wherever that might be), make an offensive maneuver against me - just to spice things up a bit
i fake this by doing what you suggest. I include the game master and then just spawn in enemies and tell the enemies to attack my troops "RTS" style
so that's very basic, but I'd really like to build out an entire story campaign, centered around the Russo-Chechen war in 1994-95, and make it very dynamic and fun for coop
tulip raptor
I think what you could do is set a trigger to detect your squad, and then attach a flanking maneuver to that trigger. Though if you're designing it yourself then for one you know its coming and for two you'll always get flanked in more or less the same way unless you start playing with multiple different defense setups and existence probabilities.
Theoretically you could set up three different patrol groups with three different flanking routes and set each composition to a 50% chance to exist.
mortal zealot
you mention flanking maneuvers. this sounds super useful. Is that a waypoint?
tulip raptor
Its just a move or a seek & destroy command or something to relocate enemy forces to an alternate position.
mortal zealot
so i would place a trigger in an area, when my troops enter the blue zone it will trigger. How do I tie that event to an attack maneuver by an enemy?
ah okay, so I would connect the trigger to the OPFOR seek and destory?
tulip raptor
I believe that involves synchronizing the move waypoint to the trigger so it only applies once the trigger becomes true
nova solstice
