arma3_scripting

[past wagon]

how would I set their side?

[digital rover]

I'm going to

that doesnt help if the vectors themselves are wrong

[little raptor]

how about you show in a video or image what you're trying to do? maybe you're going all wrong about it

[little raptor]

you can't. I think they use the side defined in their configs

[digital rover]

images arent allowed in this channel

maybe I can post a link

[little raptor]

but if you're willing to you can make your own system

assembling and disassembling can be scripted

terminals can't but you can just give them terminals of whichever side the UAV belongs to

[past wagon]

I've given the civs the terminal, UAV backpack, and tripod/hmg backpacks

[digital rover]

https://imgur.com/a/fw6knPN

Right, here I want the cargo containers to be connected to the yellow orbs right? except this is when my script looks like

        private _fromTo = _prevPointPos vectorFromTo _nextPointPos;
        // private _fromToCorrected = [_fromTo, 90, 2] call BIS_fnc_rotateVector3D;
        _x setPosWorld _centre;
        _x setVectorDirAndUp [
            _fromTo,
            [0,0,1]
        ];

[little raptor]

I meant the side the UAV belongs to. my bad

[past wagon]

they are unable to open the terminal (they can assemble the drone), and they are unable to assemble the weapon

ok

[digital rover]

When I change my script to

        private _fromTo = _prevPointPos vectorFromTo _nextPointPos;
        private _fromToCorrected = [_fromTo, 90, 2] call BIS_fnc_rotateVector3D;
        _x setPosWorld _centre;
        _x setVectorDirAndUp [
            _fromToCorrected,
            [0,0,1]
        ];

This is what I get https://imgur.com/a/7CFWaqY

[little raptor]

your up vector is incorrect

that's all

[digital rover]

i know, but I can't find a function

that makes it right

[little raptor]

this should

but I guess you tried that one

did you?

[digital rover]

yeah

will send a pic

actually, it's exactly the same as I pic I just sent

[little raptor]

yeah I see what you're doing wrong

you want the container's right/left to be along _fromTO

you can't just rotate it by 90 degrees

let me fix it for you

[past wagon]

I am giving them terminals and UAV bags of the same side, but they are unable to open the terminal

[little raptor]

        private _fromTo = _prevPointPos vectorFromTo _nextPointPos;
        private _right = [_fromTo#1, _fromTo#0 * -1, 0];
        private _up = _right vectorCrossProduct _fromTo;
        
        _x setPosWorld _centre;
        _x setVectorDirAndUp [_up vectorCrossProduct _fromTo, _up];

try that

[digital rover]

_dir being?

[little raptor]

oh 😅

fixed

fixed again (was still using _obj )

[digital rover]

that works!

[little raptor]

it only works as long as fromTo doesn't point towards the sky [0,0,1] (or the earth, [0,0,-1])

[digital rover]

what if needs to work for any angle?

[little raptor]

well the problem is if fromTo points to [0,0,1] there is no unique "up" anymore

it can rotate freely around [0,0,1]

you can just make your own convention
e.g.

if (_dir#0 == 0 && _dir#1 == 0) then {_right = [0,1,0]}

[digital rover]

I mean I could just add a check for that right?

[little raptor]

yes

[tough abyss]

the joys of gimbal lock

[digital rover]

this is one of the things quaternions solves right

[little raptor]

yes

[digital rover]

thats an learning experience for another day

for now imma just clamp it manually

[little raptor]

yeah clamping it is the best and fastest way

for SQF at least

if you make your own quats in SQF it's gonna be slow af and not worth it for per frame applications

[tough abyss]

I should go test the performance of mine, IIRC they're not that bad

[little raptor]

you're right the game doesn't let you use those

[past wagon]

how can I enable civilians to open UAV terminals?

[tough abyss]

Is there a way to draw pathfinding so that the units will follow a specific parh

instead of trying to accomplish their “best” path

[little raptor]

units no

vehicles kinda

using setDriveOnPath

[digital rover]

I think you can chain together some doMoves

[little raptor]

yes

that's possible

but it won't be good

the only practical way is using animations

[tough abyss]

What does this do

[little raptor]

read the wiki

[tough abyss]

Well how would I get units to move to cover programmatically

[little raptor]

this

[little raptor]

no way as far as I see

[tough abyss]

How does LAMBS danger do it??

they dont deem to use unique animations

[little raptor]

also animations

[tough abyss]

huh

[tough abyss]

How do you use animations to move?

[little raptor]

doesn't have to be unique

you just play the movement animation

and make the unit face the correct way

[tough abyss]

I see

[little raptor]

and they just move

[tough abyss]

is there a way to smoothly turn them so it doesnt snap

[little raptor]

animations always play smoothly

[tough abyss]

I meant facing the unit

[digital rover]

take a look at https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Category:Command_Group:_Unit_Control

[little raptor]

setVectorDir

every frame

[tough abyss]

in that wiki category theres commands like MoveTo, do those play anims automatically?

[little raptor]

no

they just tell the AI to move

like I said there's no way to give AI a path

you should trust a guy who's making an AI himself

[tough abyss]

I know but isn’t moveTo moving to a point

cant you chain multiple points

[little raptor]

you can

[tough abyss]

Does the AI not face the direction it needs to move?

[little raptor]

it does

but you can't give it a manual path

[tough abyss]

Thats what I mean by pathfinding

[little raptor]

if that's what you mean

well then yeah you can just use doMove

[tough abyss]

I can use this in a FSM and some logic to find locations for cover, and use doMove to work right?

basically micromanaging the AI

[little raptor]

you can but vanilla pathfinding is aweful

you can't just make them "move to cover"

they may not move inside the bounding box of the object (unless the object has a path LOD)

which is quite a headache

[tough abyss]

Just ran some performance tests

quaternions aren't that slow, multiplication averages 0.01ms, "division" 0.02ms, and rotation 0.06ms

[tough abyss]

How would I work with this though? Even if I had anims

[little raptor]

and vectors 0.001

if 10x is not slow I don't know what is

[tough abyss]

I mean yeah but we're talking one operation doing the same thing as a large handful of vector operations

and even 0.06ms is a fraction of frame time even at 144fps

[little raptor]

with anims you can

with moveTo/doMove you can't

with anims you just do a disableAI "MOVE"

and play the anim and the unit moves wherever he's facing. you then make him stop when he's close enough

[tough abyss]

So I would use vanilla move anims and then start/stop the anims depending on the position?

cause whst ur saying is the anims also move the character forward

right

[little raptor]

yes

or backward, etc.

depends on anim

[tough abyss]

How would I determine what is close enough? A list of objects and their radius?

Is there a way for an AI using this system to take orders from waypoints (process them at all)?

[little raptor]

you use the bounding box to determine that the AI is in an object
by "close enough" I meant to the end point. and for that you can use lineIntersectsSurfaces for example

to determine where they should take cover

[little raptor]

well for 1 object maybe but for several no

you easily go beyond 1 ms

[tough abyss]

Not sure how bounding box works

[little raptor]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/boundingBoxReal

[tough abyss]

That's fair, I'm not suggesting that they're ideal for per-frame applications

just that they're not horrendously slow

main tradeoff being that unlike BIS_fnc_rotateVector3D you can rotate around arbitrary axes

(plus, to be honest, my quaternion code could be further optimized)

[tough abyss]

does anyone know the bis for the ace arsenal

[little raptor]

do you mean the function for ACE arsenal?

[tough abyss]

If you just need to open it on the player you can use [player, player, true] call ace_arsenal_fnc_openBox

[tough abyss]

ok ty

[past wagon]

why can't I remoteExec cutText?
This works fine: cutText ["", "BLACK OUT", 1];
But this does nothing: ["", "BLACK OUT", 1] remoteExec ["cutText"];

[open fractal]

is remoteExec restrictred in your server or mission config

[past wagon]

no....?

not that I know of, what might cause it to be?

[open fractal]

CfgRemoteExec or battleye

that'll only be an issue if you're using a template where someone set that stuff up

[past wagon]

no

I'm just testing in a singleplayer mission

nevermind, I just needed double brackets

[tough abyss]

yup because it takes an array of 3 arguments, not 3 individual arguments

[past wagon]

yup

[leaden ibex]

let's say I have two missionNamespace variables.
tOneDone and tTwoDone
I do the classic

private _tOneDone = missionNamespace getVariable("tOneDone", false);
private _tTwoDone = missionNamespace getVariable("tTwoDone", false);

waitUntil (_tOneDone && _tTwoDone) do {
  ...
};

(Given the docs are down and I don't remember the syntax exactly, consider it rather pseudocode)
Given I [] spawn {}; this,
will this work like I want it to?

Wait until both the variables are true (or negatet, not sure, docs are down ), the starts to execute the code that will be inside

TLDR:
Are private references updated when missionNamespace variable get's updated? That's the core of the question.
If no, should I add handlers on them?
I suspect it will be esier on the CPU, but it's only one loop, will be run only on server. (sleep 1 added somewhere in there ofc, docs down )

(I'll probably solve it by checking it in the function setting the vars, but I still wonder if the references get updated)

[open fractal]

waitUntil takes code {} for its condition but that would work

however

it'll just be stuck if the variable returns false

since it's not going to go back and check again

[leaden ibex]

One of the things I would do if the docs worked and I was able to look at the examples (They are up )

So the reference does not get updated once the missionNamespace one does

[open fractal]

if you're running the script in mission context you can just write the global variable

[leaden ibex]

it will be in a file ran by init.sqf

but I think I'll go with the one time check once on of the variables is being set (they are simple toogle from false to true)

[tough abyss]

You would need to pull the variable each time to get the latest value, also don't forget to put sleeps in waitUntil conditions since otherwise they will hog the scheduler by trying to check the condition constantly

[leaden ibex]

So, it's a not. The private reference is not a reference, but a copy.
Copy that, thank you!

[open fractal]

waitUntil {!(isNil "tOneDone") && !(isNil "tTwoDone")};
``` will effectively suspend the code until both variables are defined

[tough abyss]

For your reference, everything in sqf is copy-by-value except for arrays which are copy-by-reference

which is why arrays have an explicit + operator for copying by value instead of reference

[leaden ibex]

Got it. I just love switching languages, where all this changes. Lazy evaluation, left to right, right to left Who's supposed to remember it all

[tough abyss]

Speaking of lazy evaluation, are you aware of how to do so in SQF?

&& and || are not lazy-evaluated by default

[leaden ibex]

No, I am not.
That was just one of the things that came up to my mind when thinking about language differences.

How does it work in SQF? Like it's gonna help something, but I am a optimisation freak

[tough abyss]

Basic idea is that SQF only lazy-evaluates booleans if one of the conditions is code, for whatever reason

[open fractal]

you're not gonna like the answer

[tough abyss]

hence to lazy evaluate if (cond1 || cond2)

you actually need

if (cond1 || {cond2})

[open fractal]

if (a && { b && { c } }) then {};

[tough abyss]

then it will lazy-eval

yup and if you have more conditions

you need to nest concurrent ones in more code

[leaden ibex]

alright, fuck it, I am going back to ASM

[open fractal]

i lvoe sqf me and sqf are homies

[hallow mortar]

It's like this because lazy evaluation didn't exist at all until Arma 3 1.62, so it had to be added as an alternate syntax

[leaden ibex]

Alright, thanks for the lecture!
(goes away with tears and dreams about C++)

[tough abyss]

Meh seems like a sorry excuse considering I know of hardly any modern code that doesn't benefit from lazy-eval

[open fractal]

you could still do nested if statements before 1.62 and those are very cool and fun

[hallow mortar]

That was an explanation, not an excuse

[tough abyss]

I'm not saying it's an excuse from you

[leaden ibex]

don't get me started on else if

[tough abyss]

rather an excuse in general avoiding just making it the standard

[leaden ibex]

iirc that is not supported by sqf, right?

[hallow mortar]

Correct

[open fractal]

you already know the answer

[tough abyss]

you know what else isn't supported 🙂

[leaden ibex]

so my spaghetti code to decide who won... is not wrong

[tough abyss]

+= -= *= /= ++ --

^ none of those

[leaden ibex]

I miss those guys. I really do

[tough abyss]

have fun writing i = i+1

[open fractal]

i was devastated when i learned that switch statements are also not lazy eval

[tough abyss]

switch statements in interpreted languages are always trash

[leaden ibex]

Guys, there's hope on the horizon

[tough abyss]

main benefit of switch statements comes from the way they're compiled differently which obviously doesn't apply for non-compiled langs

[leaden ibex]

switch I forgot my break and it... worked? I was expecting everything to break and it... didn't?

[tough abyss]

guess fall-through is allowed

Oh and not to mention the not-so-subtle but important differences between

Any/ObjNull/Null/nil/Empty/etc.

[leaden ibex]

I am a simple man. Creating fun mission for TvT events and I want them to be different than what we usually play, so I script some things into it (mainly new objective types).
I hope I'll never deal with these

[tough abyss]

generally just knowing where to put isNull and isNil is sufficient for avoiding disaster

[leaden ibex]

No idea.
Got simple cheatsheet?

[open fractal]

tuesday night tanks capture the flag please

[leaden ibex]

oh, obj vs var, got it

[tough abyss]

yup

[winter rose]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Introduction_to_Arma_Scripting perhaps?

[leaden ibex]

It was meant for isNull vs isNil
But thanks anyway

[winter rose]

ah mb then
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/isNull
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/isNil
😄

[leaden ibex]

It's alright, keeping up with XY message conversation is a tough task.

Thanks for these links, but managed to find them before. They answered my question. Obj vs Var. Simple as that.

Now that the docs work again, I can calmly continue my journey to insanity

[winter rose]

Now that the docs work again
how were they broken before 👀

[leaden ibex]

Didn't load, timeout.

[winter rose]

augh
thanks for the report, glad it solved itself

[leaden ibex]

sure thing

[worthy igloo]

for sector control logic i cant change the marker type with the marker type cmd do i have to do it with set variable?

[tough abyss]

How are you trying to do it? @worthy igloo

[worthy igloo]

    "ModuleSector_F" createUnit [ rumb_hp, createGroup sideLogic, "
        
        this setVariable[ 'DefaultOwner', '0' ];
        this setVariable[ 'OnOwnerChange', '' ];
        this setVariable[ 'OwnerLimit', '0' ];
        this setVariable[ 'ScoreReward', '0' ];
        this setVariable[ 'TaskOwner', '3' ];
        this setVariable[ 'sides', [ east, west ] ];
        this setVariable[ 'Name', '' ];    
        
        
        this setVariable[ 'BIS_fnc_initModules_disableAutoActivation', false, true ];
        
        _nul = [ this ] spawn {
            params[ '_logic' ];
            
            waitUntil {
                !isNil { _logic getVariable [ 'finalized', nil ] } &&
                { !( _logic getVariable [ 'finalized', true ] ) }
            };

            private _trgSize = 200;
            _logic setVariable [ 'size', _trgSize ];
            [ _logic, [], true, 'area' ] call BIS_fnc_moduleSector;

            private _trg = ( _logic getVariable 'areas' ) select 0;
            private _mrk = ( _trg getVariable 'markers' ) select 0;
            _mrk setMarkerSize [200, 200];
            _mrk setMarkerDir 30;
        };
    " ];

[tough abyss]

Yeah that needs some cleaning

regardless, how were you trying to do it with setMarkerType?

[little raptor]

instead of typing a wall of strings, just use toString

    "ModuleSector_F" createUnit [ rumb_hp, createGroup sideLogic, toString {
        
        this setVariable[ 'DefaultOwner', '0' ];
        this setVariable[ 'OnOwnerChange', '' ];
        this setVariable[ 'OwnerLimit', '0' ];
        this setVariable[ 'ScoreReward', '0' ];
        this setVariable[ 'TaskOwner', '3' ];
        this setVariable[ 'sides', [ east, west ] ];
        this setVariable[ 'Name', '' ];    
        
        
        this setVariable[ 'BIS_fnc_initModules_disableAutoActivation', false, true ];
        
        _nul = [ this ] spawn {
            params[ '_logic' ];
            
            waitUntil {
                !isNil { _logic getVariable [ 'finalized', nil ] } &&
                { !( _logic getVariable [ 'finalized', true ] ) }
            };

            private _trgSize = 200;
            _logic setVariable [ 'size', _trgSize ];
            [ _logic, [], true, 'area' ] call BIS_fnc_moduleSector;

            private _trg = ( _logic getVariable 'areas' ) select 0;
            private _mrk = ( _trg getVariable 'markers' ) select 0;
            _mrk setMarkerSize [200, 200];
            _mrk setMarkerDir 30;
        };
    } ];

[tough abyss]

^

[worthy igloo]

yes that is one way i tried i dont remember the other but it didnt work

[tough abyss]

also you're going to want to put a sleep in that waitUntil unless you want to torture the scheduler

yes but I'm asking how you were trying to do it because it should've worked

[winter rose]

https://sqfbin.com/

[tough abyss]

Unfortunately the server hosting SQFBin is offline after the host migrated it.


I am awaiting their response for SQFBin's return 😢


~ Imthatguyhere

@winter rose

[worthy igloo]

_mrk setMarkerType 'KIA';

[winter rose]

ah well. temp RIP then.

@finite dirge good luck w/ them 😬

[opal zephyr]

Anyone know if its possible to extract an array of the whitelisted items from an arsenal or ace arsenal?
Or even just get the list of all items

[little raptor]

It should be

Just read the function. If it has a whitelist you should be able to "extract it" (if it's a variable)

And if not you should be able to recreate it yourself

[opal zephyr]

Im looking at the BIS_fnc_arsenal page and it has a param call "allItems", but its a boolean. It makes all items available in the arsenal. I want to know where it gets its list from

And the ace arsenals page only mentions the ability to copy it manually via the editor, not where that list is stored after the arsenal is created

[little raptor]

Well I didn't say read the wikis. I said read the functions themselves

Their contents

[opal zephyr]

Ok, ill try and find the vanilla one

[shut reef]

I said almost the same thing today xD

[past wagon]

does anyone know why this might not be working? It's being executed on the server, but it is only putting the server host into the vehicle when there are 2 players:

{
    _x moveInCargo [_plane, _forEachIndex + 2];
} forEach allPlayers;

[open fractal]

it takes a local attribute

you have to remoteExec it or run the script on both machines

{
    [_x, [_plane, _forEachIndex + 2]] remoteExec ["moveInCargo",_x];
} forEach allPlayers;

try this

[snow shadow]

Can someone tell me why the following gives me an Error Generic error in expression when I have the following set as the Condition for a trigger?

trg == 1

It doesn't go away until it's called

[open fractal]

is trg defined

[snow shadow]

It works when I call it, which is the vexing thing

[snow shadow]

Meaning?

[open fractal]

is it undefined before it is 1

[snow shadow]

How would I tell? I have kludged together a working script from three separate forum pages, including the community wiki. I do not know what I am doing.

Should a bit of script say that trg = 0 on mission start?

Well, doing that makes the error go away in two seconds instead of staying there forever, so that's my interim solution

[open fractal]

try this

!isNil "trg"

in your condition

it will activate the trigger when trg exists

however i suspect it might be activating triggers sequentially based on the trg value

which, tbh, kind of weird and pointless

[snow shadow]

That activates the trigger instantly

[open fractal]

a lot of code from random forum pages is a bit shit, you can go to pastebin and send a link here if you want someone to look at it

[open fractal]

it's this then

ugh

why

what does the trigger do

[snow shadow]

Complete a player objective

[open fractal]

thats a little goofy

here

[snow shadow]

It is activated by a Hold Action, which was a much larger pain in the ass

[open fractal]

you had the right idea

write trg = -1

if it's a server only trigger put it at the top of initServer.sqf
otherwise put it in init.sqf

[snow shadow]

That's part of the mission file, isn't it?

[open fractal]

if you arent sure go with init.sqf

yeah next to mission.sqm

make a file called init.sqf

make sure it's init.sqf and not init.sqf.txt

if the file is already there then make a line at the top

[snow shadow]

No file there, need to make it

Anything else it should include, or will trg = -1 at the top suffice?

[open fractal]

it'll fix the issue of the variable being undefined

i highly encourage you to send a pastebin link to that code, it smells funny

[snow shadow]

targ1, 
"Sabotage Comms Array", 
"\a3\ui_f\data\IGUI\Cfg\holdactions\holdAction_connect_ca.paa", 
"\a3\ui_f\data\IGUI\Cfg\holdactions\holdAction_connect_ca.paa", 
"_this distance _target < 7", 
"_caller distance _target < 7", 
{}, 
{}, 
{trg = 1}, 
{}, 
[], 
30, 
0, 
true, 
false 
] remoteExec ["BIS_fnc_holdActionAdd", 0, targ1];```

targ1 is the object Variable Name

[snow shadow]

The full extent of the scripting in my mission is above

Everything else is triggers, modules, and syncing things together

[past wagon]

can someone explain to me why this code in onPlayerKilled.sqf isn't working? It's supposed to give the killer a notification that they killed an enemy. Nothing shows up....

params ["_player", "_killer"];

if (_killer in allPlayers) then {
    [name _player + " was killed by " + name _killer + "!"] remoteExec ["systemChat"];
    [[
        parseText ("<t font='PuristaBold' size='1.3' color='#ff0000'>Enemy Killed:<br/><t font='PuristaBold' size='1.3' color='ffffff'>" + name _player),
        [1, 0.5, 1, 1],
        nil,
        7,
        0.7,
        0
    ]] remoteExec ["BIS_fnc_textTiles", _killer];
} else {
    [name _player + " was killed!"] remoteExec ["systemChat"];
};

[warm hedge]

systemChat takes a string not an array

[open fractal]

you should define a function for that

[past wagon]

an array works for remoteExec. the systemChat shows up fine, it isnt the problem... just the BIS_fnc_titleText

[open fractal]

that's not bad, I feared the worst when you said forum posts

[snow shadow]

Like I said, most is from the wiki, the forum posts got me to know the difference between = and ==

[past wagon]

why?

[open fractal]

it's already compiled and ready to go from config if you define it in description.ext

[snow shadow]

I'd have used the wiki exclusively but it's terrible at explaining things to absolute scripting noobs

[open fractal]

on every machine

then you only have to use remoteExec once to have the target player call your function

[past wagon]

ok

[open fractal]

it's a lot more straightforward than other docs out there. It's only when you get into the niche stuff that it can be a little brief

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Introduction_to_Arma_Scripting

[snow shadow]

Trouble is, it assumes you know what it's going on about

[open fractal]

wdym

[snow shadow]

If I want to drop in this one thing, I have to go through this whole course. The page is not self-contained for a noob

[open fractal]

can you name specifics

[snow shadow]

... wait, that was the other wiki

[open fractal]

there are a few people in here daily who will take the time to explain it in detail if you signal that you're willing to learn

[snow shadow]

I'm willing, but I don't have the time is the problem. Two years ago I would have had plenty of time

I just want to do the one thing when I need it, knowing everything about the scripting language feels superfluous for that need

[warm hedge]

Hm, I must be misremembered then. Disregard

[past wagon]

all good

[snow shadow]

Or, more of an overinvestment

That's a better word

Learning a lot to do very little

[open fractal]

one day you might get that itch to do something no one's done before, that's why I fell down the rabbit hole

[snow shadow]

I just want my friends to have fun, without kludging things in the moment with Zeus quite as much

I've done one mission that works without a Zeus, and it took sooooooooooo much longer to make

It also doesn't work for anyone other than me because the music breaks for some reason

So I'd have to rescore it for anyone to actually play the blasted thing

[open fractal]

zeusing is my personal hell

[snow shadow]

I love it man, watching people in the moment react to things is wonderful

So much catharsis when they hit your traps

My current style is a blend of editor and Zeus in concert, with everything placed in advance while the Zeus adjusts things that I didn't expect

Also, making sure the AI pulls their punches more by RCing them and deliberately missing

[open fractal]

I like having control over everything in the editor to balance the mission out and not feel guilty about removing respawns entirely

[snow shadow]

My players are far too bad at the game for that to work lol

[past wagon]

{
    _x moveInCargo [_plane, _forEachIndex + 2];
} forEach allPlayers;
```If this code is executed on the server, will it move all players into the vehicle? Because it isn't working for me.... only the server host gets put in. The plane is a Blackfish and has like 30 cargo seats. The first two are turret seats in the back, which I want to skip when putting players in...

[snow shadow]

I'll let you get back to it

[open fractal]

i feel like i've answered this already

[open fractal]

^

if you check the wiki page it says local argument***

which means you have to run it on each player's machine

like the example I wrote

[past wagon]

ohh I somehow missed that... I guess when you first responded I thought you were talking to someone else lol. sorry and thank you for the explanation!

[open fractal]

yw

[snow shadow]

Before I go to sleep, I just want to say that I am very grateful for the help

I'm just frustrated that this took me two hours, when if the object could have been blown up I could have made the objective in twelve minutes

But I keep telling myself I want each mission to contain something new, in terms of how it was created, so getting a Hold Action to work was part of that

Thanks

[balmy raven]

G'day scripters.
I"m looking to use the respawn loadout menu in my next mission to allow players to select different loadouts depending on what role they chose.
However I do not want all players to be able to see the same loadouts.

For example. Unit A is a rifleman, I want to give him 4 loadouts to chose from within the loadout menu = Easy enough.
Unit B is a sniper, I want him to only have his own, seperate sets of loadouts separate from the ones available to Unit A.
I don't want them to be able to see each others loadouts or be able to select each others loadouts.

Is this something that someone could lend some assistance with?
Cheers,

when you reply can you use the reply function or @ me

[tough abyss]

@balmy raven you will need to reference https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Description.ext#CfgRespawnInventory, https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Description.ext#CfgRoles, https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/BIS_fnc_addRespawnInventory, and know how to use the MenuInventory spawn template in your mission as described here https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Respawn#MenuInventory

The actual code involved is simple but you'll want to familiarize yourself with those

In order to have distinct loadout menus on an individual basis, you'll need to either make separate roles for each individual and limit the number of players in each role to 1, or create a manual role selection system that shows/hides loadouts

[still forum]

Its like this because due to how SQF syntax works it has to be

[copper raven]

everything is by reference in sqf

[marsh trench]

i have a trigger and in its onActivate event, i have the following :

["INTERN_fnc_onActiv", thisTrigger] call (missionNamespace getVariable "mission_arsenal_core");
hint "Activated";

mission_arsenal_core is script, that gets compiled and stored :

//init.sqf
missionNamespace setVariable ["mission_arsenal_core", compile preprocessFileLineNumbers "scripts\arsenal.sqf"];

now my problem is, the first time you enter this trigger, the call function doesn't do anything. but when you go out of the trigger, and re-enter it, it works. its like you need to call it atleast once to get it to work. how can i fix this? i think it has something to do with the way i'm compiling and storing the script.

[little raptor]

I guess the term reference is confusing. maybe we should call them shared pointers

or maybe "ref-counted value"

[little raptor]

first of all, if you don't intend to provide a default value, there's no point to using getVariable with missionNamespace. so either use mission_arsenal_core directly, or use missionNamespace getVariable ["mission_arsenal_core", {}]
same goes for setVariable. unless you intend to broadcast it, there's no point to it. just do mission_arsenal_core = compile ...

second of all,

the call function doesn't do anything
do you mean the hint is displayed correctly?

if so it means your function is not defined. or it has an error somewhere

[copper raven]

i guess 😄

[modern agate]

For some reason this single trigger out of about 12 doesn't work
D3 switchMove "Acts_Peering_Back";

The ai's variable name is D3 and no matter what i do it wont work

[little raptor]

what's its condition?

[modern agate]

this

[little raptor]

also when you do switchmove, always use playMoveNow afterwards

D3 switchMove "Acts_Peering_Back";
D3 playMoveNow "Acts_Peering_Back";

like that

[still forum]

A reference is just a pointer.
But the word "reference" is easier to understand than "by shared pointer" and has the same end result

[still forum]

That would have no information about whether values are copied or not. refcounted values can still be copied

[little raptor]

[little raptor]

and has the same end result
I mean like:

int b = 1;
int& a = b;
a = c; // b changed

int b = 1;
int* a = &b;
a = &c; //b didn't change

what I mean is that assigning refs changes the value but with pointers it doesn't
which is why I say calling SQF values "references" can be a bit confusing

[balmy raven]

I do understand the code as I have loadouts working.

What I want to do is stop specific a set of loadouts for unit a that unit b can’t see

[copper raven]

in most languages "reference" is not c++ reference really

for example reference in C# has pretty much the same meaning as SQF reference

[little raptor]

never done C# so

[winter rose]

this discussion is pointless then

see what I did ☝️ ← here? a pointer joke's pointer joke!

[spiral zealot]

Hello lads, I've got a question for you all. I hope you can help me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoJU4GwKpLY
I found this amazing video which shows obtainable loadouts from the interaction menu, I love the concept and would love to implement this into my server, but with so many files, so much scripting, im just lost as i've never done this before.
Is there perhaps an easier way to do this? I know you can Export loadouts and get a long line of code which is correlated to that loadout, any way to just give that a title, plop that text and simply say if you select this, you get that long line of code put into you?

[little raptor]

yes. with addAction

[spiral zealot]

if you got some spare time to explain that I'd love to learn how to do it)

[little raptor]

this addAction ["Give Loadout 1", {
  params ["", "_caller"];
  _caller setUnitLoadout [
    ... //loadout you copied from Arsenal
  ];
}];

put that in the init field of some object

e.g. a crate

if you want this for multiple objects or multiple loadouts just make a script file to save yourself some copy paste

[spiral zealot]

right, and I rename "loadout 1" with a loadout from my saved loadouts?

[little raptor]

it's just a name, so yes

[spiral zealot]

so i have a loadout in my saved loadouts called "rifleman", therefor i'd do

this addAction ["Give Rifleman", {
params ["", "_caller"];
_caller setUnitLoadout [
... //loadout you copied from Arsenal
];
}];

[little raptor]

actually wait I noticed that the loadout you get from Arsenal is something else

[spiral zealot]

do you mind if we do this in dm's? I cant send screenshots here for some reason

[little raptor]

it gives you a full code itself

[little raptor]

you can DM me the screenshot but I prefer to stay here

[spiral zealot]

of course

sent all

[little raptor]

so to make it easier and more readable, just do it this way:

1. create a folder in your mission folder called loadouts
2. in the folder make some text files, change their names to loadoutName.sqf (e.g. rifleman.sqf)
3. in each file put this:

params ["", "_caller"];
_caller setUnitLoadout ...

instead of the 3 dots just paste the loadout from ACE Arsenal

4. in the box's init, add:

this addAction ["Rifleman Kit", "loadouts\rifleman.sqf"];
this addAction ["AT Kit", "loadouts\AT.sqf"];
```etc.

just copy each line like that and make sure they're ended with ;

[spiral zealot]

that looks too simple to work 😄 if it works i'll be SO HAPPY, im gonna try it and get back to you. Thanks a million!

[little raptor]

btw make sure file extensions are on in Explorer

[spiral zealot]

all done, thank you very much ❤️

[little raptor]

np. if you want to make them colorful you can do this:

this addAction ["<t color='#ff0000'>Rifleman Kit</t>", "loadouts\rifleman.sqf"];

that makes it red for example

if you want to make your own color, just type: rgb to hex in google

it gives you a tool to create hex colors

@spiral zealot

[spiral zealot]

perfect, thank you very much

[little raptor]

actually remove parseText

edited the code

[tough abyss]

I've used both C and C++ rather extensively and I get the difference between shared pointers and references, but sometimes it's simply easier to say that everything aside from arrays are pass-by-value in SQF given that the behavior is almost indistinguishable from if they were

And getting into the concept of pointers in a language that doesn't explicitly use them for the sake of semantics seems a bit moot

[still forum]

I don't want people to belive that assigning a variable or calling functions has to be expensive because every value is copied.
Everything is by ref and I don't see why one would want to state the opposite of whats true because its simply easier?

[tough abyss]

That's perfectly fair and I'm perfectly willing to not explain it that way in the future, just explaining why I did so

[marsh trench]

this is the arsenal.sqf script file :

params["_internal", ["_argument", nil]];

private _debugMode = missionNamespace getVariable "mission_debug_mode";

switch (_internal) do {
    case "INTERN_fnc_onActiv": { [_argument] call INTERN_fnc_onActiv };
    case "INTERN_fnc_onDeAct": { [_argument] call INTERN_fnc_onDeact };
    case "INTERN_fnc_debug"     : { [_argument] call INTERN_fnc_debug     };
    default { };
};

INTERN_fnc_debug = {
    params["_text"];
    if (_debugMode) then { systemChat ("[SYS-DEBUG] " + _text); }
};



INTERN_fnc_onActiv = {
    params ["_thisTrigger"];
        hint "Inside onActive";
    for "_i" from 0 to 2 do {
          private _light = missionNamespace getVariable ("arsenal_lamp" + str _i);
        if !(isNil "_light") then {
            _light switchLight "ON";
            [format ["Arsenal lamp %1 activated!", _i]] call INTERN_fnc_debug;
        };
        
    };

    _ahm = createHashMap;

    for "_i" from 0 to 2 do {
        private _obj = missionNamespace getVariable ("arsenal_obj" + str _i);
        if !(isNil "_obj") then {
            private _actionIndex = _obj addAction["<t color='#FF0061' size='4'>Open Arsenal</t>", "['open', [true]] call BIS_fnc_arsenal",nil, 6, true];
            _ahm set [str _obj, _actionIndex];
               [format ["[DEBUG-ArsenalT] Arsenal added to obj %1, ahm value set!", _i]] call INTERN_fnc_debug;
        };
    
    };

    _thisTrigger setVariable ["ahm", _ahm];
};

...

if it had any errors, it would've failed the second time i called it too.
what i mean is first time i call it, the hint in onActiv won't work, meaning the function is not actually called (or something is failing it)
P.S the hint in triggers onActivate event works fine evertime.

---

also, how can i know if players have continued the briefing part in multiplayer?
(briefing part, meaning the part when you go into the game, and the game shows you the map until you hit continue)

[tough abyss]

Everything I said already described how to do so. You can either limit each loadout to one person, or you'll need to rig up a custom role selection system if you want to hide all of the other loadouts from the beginning. Either way, those links I provided are the systems you'll need to use.

If unit A picks a loadout under a role that's limited to one person, no further units will be able to select loadouts under that role

obviously that means that the loadouts won't be "hidden" until someone has chosen that loadout, so if that doesn't fit what you desire, you require an alternative way to actually set who gets what loadout

[tough abyss]

Like Leopard said, you would firstly do well to remove a lot of your unnecessary missionNamespace getVariables unless you plan on providing a default value. That being said, your issue is that the first time the trigger is activated, you don't get a Inside onActive hint?

[marsh trench]

yes, i dont

nothing inside that function excutes

[exotic flax]

@balmy raven
You can add custom loadouts with BIS_fnc_addRespawnInventory by setting the target parameter to the specific unit.

Although you still have to figure out which player gets which loadout(s)

[tough abyss]

@marsh trench The issue is that INTERN_fnc_onActiv and the other functions defined in that file aren't actually defined until the first time the function is run. Just compiling the code doesn't actually cause those functions to be defined.

One way you could fix that is by either defining the functions separately or just defining them before the switch statement, but note that the latter will be having them be re-defined every time the function is run.

Overall the issue here relates to how you're trying to do things, it'd be cleaner and cause less issues like this to just define the functions separately or with a function library rather than having them all in a file together being called by a switch statement.

[little raptor]

if it had any errors, it would've failed the second time i called it too.
I meant semantic errors

[little raptor]

as for why it only works the second time, Sysroot already explained it

[tough abyss]

Is there any particular reason that AFAIK we can't work with the model of held weapons? Would be great to be able to work with weapon memory points and such via SQF.

Or, if there is a way to do so, it certainly seems to have evaded me

[exotic flax]

depends on what you want to do

with namedProperties, selectionNames and selectionPosition you should be able to find the named properties of a model and get the position of each property to be used in SQF

[tough abyss]

Yeah I know you can approximate weapon positions with the player's selection positions, but that's the closest you can get AFAIK

I mean getting selectionPositions of memory points on the actual gun model which I don't see how to do

this is something I've wanted to be able to do for a long time so if it's doable and I just didn't realize how to do it I'm going to be awed

[exotic flax]

currentWeapon returns the name of the weapon, and unless you create a new object it's not possible to get the actual weapon object.
Perhaps you could try nearestObject, but I'm not sure how weapons behave to that 🤔

[tough abyss]

As far as I've seen the weapons held by the player basically don't exist in the world as far as SQF is concerned

no command to get them as an object or anything similar

[sharp sable]

How do I know the name of the ammunition that the artillery shoots to record in the script?

[granite sky]

You can look them up in config or use a Fired event handler.

[sharp sable]

Thank/Дякую

[little raptor]

because they're not objects

they're proxies

as for how, you have to create a simple object using the weapon model

[sharp sable]

Can you give me an example of what it looks like in the configuration?

[granite sky]

honestly that's pretty hard work. What exactly is your use case here?

If you just want to know magazines for specific artillery as a one-off, just spawn one and do magazines _vehicle

[tough abyss]

Indeed, it just seems weird that we don't have any control over the model used by said proxy and the closest thing we can do is manipulating a simple object in its place

I don't suppose there's any clean way to overlay a simple object of the weapon over the proxied one so it doesn't really help the situation

[little raptor]

there is

just move it every frame

[tough abyss]

lol well yeah that's where the clean part becomes a problem

not to mention I'd suppose you'd need attachTo with bone rotation which is already janky when it comes to players

[little raptor]

well attachTo works to some extend as well

[little raptor]

it works ok as long as the player isn't looking all the way up or down

[tough abyss]

yeah so I've noticed

it's understandable if it's not something you're intended to be able to do, would just be nice

seems like a strange limitation

[little raptor]

well if it followed the res lod's bone axis instead of the mem point it would work

but I guess the reason they don't do that is that res lods, as the name suggests, change (depending on distance)

[tough abyss]

yeah

[little raptor]

which btw is how you make the each frame method work

[tough abyss]

yeah I've set up models to follow weapon movement smoothly, and it works well enough for some things

just annoying that I can't just use weapon model mempoints

for reference, my present use case is that my portal gun needs to have some different changing things on it

I already have some UVanimated energy beams that "attach" to the front of the gun when you pick something up, and that works decently enough where I don't much mind

but I also am trying to have a light source which changes color in the top of the gun which is a pain to pull off with just attaching and such

either way, will find a way to do it, just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something

[little raptor]

I'm just gonna put this here (again)

[tough abyss]

Thanks, I'll see about applying it

One workaround we've found is using weapon attachments, which works decently well for the portal gun seeing as it has no need for scopes, flashlights, etc.

Which will probably still be necessary since per-frame updates aren't really gonna fly well especially in MP

[sharp sable]

I'll write more about what I mean tomorrow

[vital bough]

On public servers, I have some compositions with ambient animations set in the init values, and whether they work or not seem kind of hit or miss depending on which server I'm on. Only 4 servers allow scripts like ZAM (in the US anyway, numbers 02, 02e, 02w and 04). which ones allow compositions with custom init values for things like ambient animations or vehicle color?

[shadow canopy]

Is there away to get the locked on target for like a jet or like the cwis? afaik there isnt any EH or a command to get that

I guess missileTarget might work, but not for bullets for cwis I guess

[modern agate]

Trying to make a vehicle move about 5m forward out of a tree line for a ambush via a trigger, it refuses to do so, ive tried disableAI"Move" enableAI"Move" stuff and skipping hold way points after trigger activation to move but it wont just go forward a few meters

[granite sky]

Yeah, that's really something that you need to do with the hacky fine-control mechanisms. setVelocity, setVelocityTransformation or those direct command-movement controls that I can't remember how to find.

[open fractal]

doMove?

driver _vehicle doMove (_vehicle getRelPos [5,0]);

[granite sky]

doMove has basically the same behaviour as waypoints IME

so a 5m one is probably just gonna complete. Depends on the vehicle type though.

[modern agate]

cant get it to work, the offroad just refuses

[open fractal]

have you considered moving it further out

or BIS_fnc_unitPlay

[modern agate]

ill try, guessing its just too short to work

[past wagon]

can anyone tell me why my quadbikes might be spawning in with a random color even though I set their texture with this script?

private _civCars = [
    ["C_Hatchback_01_F", ["a3\soft_f_gamma\hatchback_01\data\hatchback_01_ext_base09_co.paa"]], 2,
    ["C_Hatchback_01_sport_F", ["a3\soft_f_gamma\hatchback_01\data\hatchback_01_ext_sport05_co.paa"]], 1,
    ["C_Offroad_01_F", ["a3\soft_f_enoch\offroad_01\data\offroad_01_ext_grn_co.paa", "a3\soft_f_enoch\offroad_01\data\offroad_01_ext_grn_co.paa"]], 2,
    ["C_Offroad_01_covered_F", []], 1,
    ["I_C_Offroad_02_unarmed_F", []], 2,
    ["C_Quadbike_01_F", ["a3\soft_f_beta\quadbike_01\data\quadbike_01_civ_black_co.paa", "a3\soft_f_beta\quadbike_01\data\quadbike_01_wheel_civblack_co.paa"]], 2
];

private _carTypeArray = selectRandomWeighted _civCars;
_carTypeArray params ["_carType", "_textures"];
private _car =  createVehicle [_carType, _location];
_car setDir _direction;
{
    _car setObjectTextureGlobal [_forEachIndex, _x];
} forEach _textures;
``` Setting the textures is working fine for the hatchbacks and offroads, but not for the quad bikes...

I got these textures by doing getObjectTextures on the vehicles with the paint jobs I wanted, so it should be exactly correct.

[warm hedge]

_car setVariable ["BIS_disableRandomization",true]``` will do IIRC

[past wagon]

ok

thanks

[past wagon]

isn't it randomized when it's created, though? Or if I do that right after it's created, will it override it?

also, I still need to get it set to a specific texture. it's working fine for the other vehicles, but not quadbikes for some reason

[warm hedge]

After the randomized will do but in order to do that you'll need a bit of spawn

[stable siren]

what do i do to make units renegade BESIDES shooting them? I want to make it so that we will be attacked by all 3 factions rather than just 2. i say this because we are an indfor group but some of our enemy units are on indfor as well (bandits, zombies, etc.). but since we are both indfor we cant attack each other.

i have been surfing the wiki for the script combo, but i cant seem to get it to work. I tried addRating followed by -2000 but im still indfor. can anyone help me? simply reply to this message so i get pinged

[warm hedge]

Seems like -2000 is not enough

-5000 did work

[stable siren]

my character is a lt. in the editor

[warm hedge]

Lieutenant you mean?

[stable siren]

yes

[warm hedge]

It does not even matter

[stable siren]

so even when renegade, my player name when aimed at will still be Lt.?

like Lt. Jackson

[warm hedge]

Ey, why it does matter? A nameplate won't be changed

And it turns out -2001 does work

[stable siren]

well, the name playe tells my friends not to shoot at me

logically speaking, if all player units are renegades, we are on the same side

we will still keep our group right?

[warm hedge]

I just tested. Everyone shoots each other so no problem

[stable siren]

even my own player controlled units?

[warm hedge]

Why? A player won't shoot by the character itself, you shoot someone

[stable siren]

sorry im just trying to understand this side of scripting

it will open up my mind to new ideas

[warm hedge]

sideEnemy already is enemy, even for sideEnemy itself

[stable siren]

if i could, i'd show you a screenshot of what i have set up

[warm hedge]

DM me so I can post it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/999219462043611226/999219481198989322/unknown.png

I meant you should just post the picture not the question. I only answer it here... and what exactly is your goal? You want to make it so this group will behave like an alternative side alongside with BLUFOR, OPFOR and Independent?

[stable siren]

no my goal here is to make it so that ALL playable units (as shown), that are grouped together (as shown), will be attacked by fellow indfor units instead of just red and blue

yes

alternate side

[warm hedge]

What

[stable siren]

well, when a unit is set to renegade its attacked by everyone

all 3 factions

[warm hedge]

Perhaps you can make the groups civilian and make civilian hostile so possible to make, if civilian doesn't present on your mission

[stable siren]

thats my goal here. to make those grouped units attackable by all factions

oh

but wont making civilians hostile mean that they will attack us?

[warm hedge]

I meant, civilian is you

So BLUFOR, OPFOR and Independent can attack you at the same time

[stable siren]

ok that makes sense, but i have tried it and nobody attacks us (cause we are civilian, regardless if armed or not) so they dont consider us an enemy

so what youre saying is, if i set us to civilian, drop our rating, we will be shot at by all 3 factions?

including armed AI civilians?

[warm hedge]

Oh wait disregard, I just tested and looks they're forced not to shoot civilians even if I use setFriend command, unless do addRating

[stable siren]

yeah thats what i was thinking

the arma campaign works like that. the geurilla group Kerry joins in East Wind are against opfor, blufor, and indfor

[warm hedge]

When it does?

[stable siren]

thats essentially what im aiming for. kerry is still grouped up with geurilla fighters against all 3 factions. given this logic, i am assuming that all those groups shown are all lead by a "Kerry"

[warm hedge]

I don't even remember The East Wind does that

[stable siren]

yes it does

[warm hedge]

In Game Over?

[stable siren]

no, the whole east wind campaign

from the moment kerry lands on the beach

to him meeting with that geurilla leader stravos

[warm hedge]

A faction is not a side

[stable siren]

then if thats the case, then BI must have made the AAF redfor, or blufor for them to attack kerry and the rebels

[warm hedge]

A faction, like CTRG, FIA, Gendarmerie, NATO are in side BLUFOR. They are not meant to shoot each other

[stable siren]

yes i know that

but you arent getting what im saying here

[warm hedge]

No I don't

[stable siren]

in the campaign "east wind" kerry joins a band of anti-AAF rebels, lead by stravos

[warm hedge]

I know the lore

[stable siren]

yes, so what im essentially trying to do here is recreate that kind of logic. a group of player against all 3 factions. i will try with your civilian idea and see where that goes

it MAY work based on my past experiments

[warm hedge]

Again I don't even remember when FIA got attacked by BLUFOR, OPFOR and Independent at the same time in The East Wind

[stable siren]

well the FIA were/are classified as greenfor. AAF is greenfor. how were they able to shoot each other

thats the million dollar question here

i hacked the mission using a zeus mod (so i can zeus the units around), and noticed that the AAF units are greenfor, and so are the FIA

[warm hedge]

FIA in The East Wind is BLUFOR, therefore

I got the million

[stable siren]

clever bastards

[warm hedge]

More like FIA was existed as BLUFOR for all the time

...In Arma 3 I meant and IIRC as well

[stable siren]

i dont actually recall the east wind campaign prior to game over having blufor units

it was you against red and green

[warm hedge]

Attacked by both you mean?

[stable siren]

yes

because apparently CSAT and AAF were buddies

[warm hedge]

It is always possible, I don't recall if Game Over does that

[stable siren]

no it doesnt

game over is you against everyone

which is another thing im trying to make

[warm hedge]

But Game Over has some buddies

[stable siren]

yeah but they are recruited and join your side, whatever your side may be

so when they join you, their side may be changing to renegade

because "kerry" in game over is considered renegade

i feel like civilian would probably be my best course of action in this whole scenario. i mean, they are a neutral/configurable faction. they can be armed civilians against everyone, or passive civilians that just stand idle or roam around

[warm hedge]

No, Kerry in Game Over is BLUFOR

[stable siren]

to be fair, in all that drama, i dont even recall who was shooting me. i just ran for the ocean lol

[warm hedge]

Apparently I got shot both by OPFOR and Independent, not BLUFOR

[stable siren]

ok so my whole "kerry" logic is voided. so that means my only option, to reach my end goal here of making all playable characters enemies of all factions, is to set them to civilian with a negative rating, or keep them indfor, but still give them a negative rating

those 2 options are all what i have understood from this

[warm hedge]

Well, I guess be attacked by all three sides but keep your group organized still is impossible it seems

[stable siren]

so all group members when set to renegade, will disband and become their own individual unit?

i guess that works too

[warm hedge]

Won't disband, but still renegaded, group members can shoot the renegaded, regardless of if the shooter is renegade already or not

[stable siren]

so a whole group can be renegade?

[warm hedge]

Yes, but the whole group can shoot the group members

[stable siren]

ok that makes sense

so i dont have to set them to civilian

im trying to keep civilian strictly to passive AI

[warm hedge]

Well if the players never meant to be an AI, this is your choice

[stable siren]

ok so my options still stand. i can either make all players civilian renegades, or indfor renegades.

im leaning more towards renegade indfor, so we can have an excuse to attack armed civilian AI, in addition to OPFOR, BLUFOR, and other INDFOR ai units

ill just test both of these logics, see which one matches my goal here

[warm hedge]

Well, good luck anyways

[stable siren]

thanks

if i stumble uppon any pebbles along the way, ill post here soon

i hope in arma 4 they will add the ability to create a custom side and set its parameters to attack all factions (except civilians)

[winter rose]

already in Reforger

[stable siren]

nice! i cant wait to make a mission where you play as bandits against all factions

[warm hedge]

I hate the game engine that from 20th Century 😩

[stable siren]

also i think my issue has been resolved. i set my indfor character rating to a good negative number, and now im attacked by not only indfor, but armed civilians too. i think i just found my holy grail

and my name plate and rank are still kept as if im still a friendly

[warm hedge]

Good

[stable siren]

i can work with this twisted logic

yeah i run a group/unit, and we play as a PMC working for the highest bidder. so that means we need to be an enemy of all factions, including civilians.

anyways, thanks for the help!

[warm hedge]

I actually hope if Dedmen can add a few more sides to play with... 👀

[stable siren]

but there are only 4 sides in war

nato, pact, third worlds, and civilians

[warm hedge]

The Good, The Bad, The Ugly 😋

[stable siren]

essentially

also i dont know if this is possible, but out of my own laziness, can i set a group to renegade instead of giving every player unit a rating script?

[warm hedge]

{_x addRating -10000} forEach units <put the group>```

[stable siren]

<group variable> right?

[warm hedge]

Ayup. Without the <> of course

[stable siren]

btw does the negative level of the renegade matter?

like those less renegade wont be prioritized

[winter rose]

nope afaik

[stable siren]

good to know

[marsh trench]

how can i find A3\music_f\Music\ folder? or see its content..

[warm hedge]

In Arma 3\addons\music_f_music.pbo

[marsh trench]

how can i know if players have continued the briefing part in multiplayer?
(briefing part, meaning the part when you go into the game, and the game shows you the map until you hit continue)

[proven charm]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/getClientStateNumber is one way

[marsh trench]

thankyou

why doesn't fadeMusic work here?

playMusic "vn_another_life";

waitUntil {scriptDone _script1}; // music must be played until _script1 is done

5 fadeMusic 0; // slowly fade out.
sleep 5; // wait until the fade is completed
playMusic ""; // reset music.

it just stops without fading. just suddenly stops.
i removed the playMusic "" to see if any kind of fade is happening, but no, the music continues to be played without it. no fade, no stop.

[little raptor]

waitUntil {scriptDone _script1};
that's a bad way to do things

waiting in a scheduled envm for another script to finish is never right

but anyway I have no idea why fadeMusic doesn't work for you

maybe it's broken

[ocean folio]

looking for some insight onto this error

11:37:37 Bad conversion: array
11:37:37 Error in expression <rName = "marker" + str _forEachIndex;        
createMarker [_markerName, _unit];                        >
11:37:37   Error position: <createMarker [_markerName, _unit];                        >
11:37:37   Error 0 elements provided, 3 expected
11:37:37 File AJ_Cache2\functions\fn_moduleNuke.sqf..., line 13

line 13 is:

private _markerName = "marker" + str _forEachIndex;    // gets the index of the current unit

in my head that makes sense as "marker0, marker1, marker2, etc." but apparently thats not what's happening

[little raptor]

it means it expected an array of 3 elements

but you provided 0

or _unit is not defined

[ocean folio]

is that actually referring to line 13 then?

[copper raven]

it's line 14

[ocean folio]

no, that would be the createMarker line

yeah

I see it now

[copper raven]

it's usually +1 on the line, unless you use bytecode and properly provide positional info

arma's parser indexes lines from 0

[ocean folio]

+1 on what line?

[copper raven]

anyway, you're passing _unit, you actually want position

[copper raven]

+1 from what the diag is showing

[little raptor]

wiki says object is ok. so that means _unit is not defined

[ocean folio]

I thought you could (as of 2.1) just do that

[copper raven]

oh

[ocean folio]

ohhhh I see what you mean, kinda like everything else I've debugged in C++

exception always throws just after

[little raptor]

in here it would be "before" tho

not after

[ocean folio]

sigh yeah you are right, I'm thinking about it too much 😆

I think the source of my issue is getting the units sync'd to the module, I'll have to do some reading and figure that out

thanks for the help!

[copper raven]

your issue is _unit being undefined, as Leo said

[ocean folio]

_unit is derived from _units at _x

[copper raven]

can you send entire code with the loop?

[ocean folio]

I absolutely would if I didn’t just get pulled away to deal with some other stuff. I’ll send it when I get back

[worthy igloo]

how can i convert a hpp gui to sqf if the converter thing doesnt work

[tough abyss]

To get an AI to move without vanilla systems I need to:

1. Orient the AI in the movement direction

2. Start a movement animation

3. Stop the movement animation when the objective is reached

Correct?

[marsh trench]

there is an animation in the animation viewer, that shows the name of driver_boat01 and its file is \A3\cargoposes_F\Anim\driver_boat_01_mocap.rtm. how can i set a units animation to this?

this animate ["driver_boat01", 1];

doesn't work on the unit. is the name wrong, or am i doing it wrong?

[little raptor]

yes

[little raptor]

playMoveNow

[past wagon]

{
    [_x, [_plane, _forEachIndex + 2]] remoteExec ["moveInCargo", _x];
} forEach allPlayers;

This is only putting the server host into the plane. Why isn't it working for all players?

[little raptor]

does it even have enough cargo space?

[past wagon]

yes

it has 30 seats

[tough abyss]

when should I use call vs execVM

[past wagon]

at first I used this code:

{
  _x moveInCargo [_plane, _forEachIndex + 2];
} forEach allPlayers;
```And that didnt work, so someone told me to change it to the current one...

[little raptor]

execVM is spawned and recompiled every time

generally speaking you should NEVER use execVM

[little raptor]

that wasn't even my question

the code is correct

[little raptor]

are you sure the cargo index is valid?

look in config viewer

also when do you execute that?

are you sure all players are present?

[tough abyss]

In init.sqf:

myVariable = 0;
_myLocalVariable = 3;

null = [_myLocalVariable] execVM "test.sqf";

in test.sqf

_myArgument = {_this select 0};

hint str _myArgument;

And yet it is printing "_this select 0"

What am I missing

[past wagon]

its executed on the server during the mission, not right at the start

[little raptor]

you're converting a code into string

so you get the code itself

[tough abyss]

How do I evaluate _this select 0 and set _myArgument to the Result then?

Oh, use ()

[little raptor]

I already told you sqf doesn't have functions

there is no ()

you call the code

hint str call _myArgument

[tough abyss]

..

() works perfectly

[tough abyss]

This is not needed, I just used () instead of {} because () is evaluating the code whereas {} is defining it

[tough abyss]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Function

I understand there is no "explicit" function but this is definitely the idea of a function

[little raptor]

I thought you said you wanted to do _myArguments()

[little raptor]

I had no idea why you were wrapping things in {} in the first place

I thought you're just testing things

[tough abyss]

Haha! no

I accidentally wrapped them in {}

[past wagon]

what does "local argument" mean for moveInCargo?

unit moveInCargo vehicle

[open fractal]

is there a reason not to if it's just one-time execution on the server? or is this just generally speaking since you don't lose anything by defining it in config

[little raptor]

I said generally speaking

[past wagon]

just remove the {} ?

[little raptor]

it should be "unit local"

but might be vehicle local

try both

[past wagon]

ok

sooo

what does it mean if its vehicle local?

[little raptor]

it means change the remoteExec target to the vehicle

instead of unit

[past wagon]

ohh

got it

ok

I have another question. Does initPlayerLocal run locally for the server host when they start the mission?

[open fractal]

yes

[past wagon]

ok....

it seems like it isnt working for me, I'll have to check again

[tough abyss]

Can you make a FSM for civilian faction?

I want that to be a project I do in a few months, as a intro to AI

[marsh trench]

is it possible to rotate a Leaflets picture?

the picture i took is horizontal and the leaflet is showing it vertically and stretched.

[little raptor]

civilian is a side not a faction

FSMs don't have specific sides on their own

but you can run the FSM for only civilians yourself

[tough abyss]

Okay

How do I set up an FSM for a mission

[winter rose]

properly

[little raptor]

execFSM

[marsh trench]

i've created a task using the Create Task module (ModuleTaskCreate_F), and given it a variable name of mission_task_talk.
when i try to set its state using setTaskState in a holdAction, it gives me an error saying mission_task_talk in an object type and not a task type. what must i do?

mission_task_talk setTaskState "Assigned";

nvm, found a solution https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/231218-set-task-state-through-add-action-with-create-task-module/

[tough abyss]

What is the easiest way to get a random location that is not blocked by an obstacle

[tough abyss]

// forever
while {true} do {
    a = nearestObjects [p, ["house"], 200];
    b = 0;
    {
        _marker = createMarker[(str (b + 1)), _x];
        _marker setMarkerShape "ELLIPSE";
        _marker setMarkerSize [3, 3];
        
        sleep 2;
    } forEach a;
};

This stops at the first building marked, why is that?

[warm hedge]

You didn't redefined b after

[tough abyss]

Oh hey thanks

I'm curious why is it not changing the marker every time then

since wouldn't it just override it

[warm hedge]

But you don't even need b at this context, _forEachIndex is enough

[tough abyss]

_marker = createMarker[str _forEachIndex, _x]; works?

[warm hedge]

Yes

But whatsoever, what's your intention on this script?

[tough abyss]

I'm learning SQF, I was just trying to mark building positions to see how they worked

I am curious though it is marking stuff other than building positions with ellipses

Along the splines of power lines it seems and some tree areas

[warm hedge]

Mm. Any static thing can be a house, like a fusebox or...

[tough abyss]

I se

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/buildingPos it seems to only be drawing one marker per building why is that?

if buildings are made up of multiple positions

[warm hedge]

How's your code?

[tough abyss]

// forever
while {true} do {
    a = nearestObjects [p, ["house"], 200];
    {
        _marker = createMarker[str _forEachIndex, _x];
        _marker setMarkerShape "ELLIPSE";
        _marker setMarkerSize [3, 3];
        
        sleep 2;
    } forEach a;
};

Am I missing something

[warm hedge]

Where is buildingPos?

[tough abyss]

I forgot ☠️

can I do forEach a buildingPos

Does this work

[warm hedge]

Since a is an array you can't. But buildingPos _x

You can nest forEach as many as you want

[tough abyss]

How do I get each building position since a building has multiple?

I need to do building buildingPosition index

[little raptor]

building buildingPos -1

[ocean folio]

_units = param [1, [], [[]]];

//// init stuff
// private _unitMap = createHashMap;
private _markers = [];

{
    // Current result is saved in variable _x
    private _unit = _x;                                 // gets the current unit
    private _markerName = "marker" + str _forEachIndex;    // gets the index of the current unit
    _newMarker = createMarker [_markerName, _unit];        // create marker for current unit            //UNIT IS UNDEFINED, FOR SOME REASON ITS NOT DETECTING SYNC'D UNITS!!!
    _markerName setMarkerType "b_inf";

    _markers pushBack _newMarker;
} forEach _units;

sorry for the delay

[copper raven]

print _units before the loop, maybe it has some nil values

[ocean folio]

_units is what I think it is right? units sync'd to the module?

I was afraid that I had a major misunderstanding in what that was

[copper raven]

well i don't know what arguments callee passes to this

[little raptor]

I guess your _unit is not an object

[tough abyss]

The script works now, but for some reason its stopped after like 20 markers

and it wont mark this other building

// forever
while {true} do {
    // get the nearest objects
    a = nearestObjects [p, ["house", "building"], 200];

    // for each object
    {
        apos = _x buildingPos -1;
        // for each building position
        {
            // create a marker
            _marker = createMarker[str _forEachIndex, _x];
            _marker setMarkerShape "ELLIPSE";
            _marker setMarkerSize [3, 3];
            sleep 2;
        } forEach apos;
         
    } forEach a;

    
};

here is the code

[little raptor]

you have to delete the old markers

[warm hedge]

You can't reuse marker name

[little raptor]

duplicate marker names are not allowed

[tough abyss]

dang

guess I'll have to make a iterator variable

[ocean folio]

        class Attributes: AttributesBase
        {
            // Arguments shared by specific module type (have to be mentioned in order to be present)
            //THIS IS THE "Applies to: groups of synced objects" thing
            class Units: Units
            {
                property = "myTag_ModuleNuke_Units";
            };
            // Module specific arguments


            class ModuleDescription: ModuleDescription{}; // Module description should be shown last
        };

this was from my CfgVehicles.hpp

[copper raven]

suspend the while loop for some time aswell

[tough abyss]

It has a 2 secnd suspension

[little raptor]

it doesn't. that suspension is in the forEach loop

[warm hedge]

You can probably just name those with random command

[tough abyss]

sleep 2 affects the whole loop since it goes through it each time

[ocean folio]

which is from the Wiki on the module framework. I thought that's what their class Units: Units thing was but I might be wrong.

[copper raven]

yes, inside the foreach, if there is a case where nearestObjects returns an empty array, it will just keep on going

[little raptor]

there's no guarantee that it does

[little raptor]

or if none of the objects have building positions

[tough abyss]

I got it

// forever
while {true} do {
    // get the nearest objects
    a = nearestObjects [p, ["house", "building"], 200];

    // for each object
    {
        apos = _x buildingPos -1;
        // for each building position
        {
            // create a marker
            _marker = createMarker[str _x, _x];
            _marker setMarkerShape "ELLIPSE";
            _marker setMarkerSize [3, 3];
        } forEach apos;
         
    } forEach a;

    sleep 2;
};

Just named it the position itselfl ol

[copper raven]

i think the easiest would be to just print the array, diag_log [_units, _units apply { typename _x }]

see what you get

[ocean folio]

is there actually a string I can pull out of _units? It should be an array of objects if I understand me c- oh

that works lmao

[tough abyss]

Do I need to use buildingPos for moving AI units through buildings?

does the engine know how to path between buildingPos

[ocean folio]

this will dump to the RPT right?

[copper raven]

yes

[little raptor]

the engine does, but the object might not

[past wagon]

I am having some problems when my friend hosts a mission for me.

1. This code still doesn't work: (it only puts the server host in the plane, not other players)```sqf
   {
   [_x, [_plane, _forEachIndex + 2]] remoteExec ["moveInCargo", _plane];
   } forEach allPlayers;

I this is the third revision of the code I have tried, and it worked for me in the editor (replacing allPlayers with allUnits. But for SOME reason, it STILL will not work with multiple players. I am at my wit's end here.

2)initPlayerLocal.sqf is not running for all players. Sometimes it doesn't run for the server host, and sometimes it doesn't run for me. Here is the code:```sqf
waitUntil { !isnull player };

waitUntil { !isNull findDisplay 46 };
( findDisplay 46 ) displayAddEventHandler ["KeyDown", {
    params ["", "_key"];
    if ( _key == 60 ) then {
        if ( soundVolume == 1 ) then {
            0.1 fadeSound 0.1;
            hintSilent "Earplugs in";
        } else {
            0.1 fadeSound 1;
            hintSilent "Earplugs out"
        };
    };
}];

player addEventHandler ["InventoryOpened", {
    if (typeOf vehicle player == "B_T_VTOL_01_infantry_F" || player distance aircraftCarrier < 1000) then {
        true
    };
}];

player addHeadGear selectRandom [ //THIS CODE IS NOT ALWAYS RUNNING FOR EVERY PLAYER
    "H_Cap_red",
    "H_Cap_blu",
    "H_Cap_oli",
    "H_Cap_tan",
    "H_Cap_blk",
    "H_Cap_grn",
    "H_Cap_brn_SPECOPS",
    "H_Cap_tan_specops_US",
    "H_Cap_blk_Raven",
    "H_Cap_grn_BI",
    "H_Cap_khaki_specops_UK",
    "H_Cap_usblack",
    "H_Cap_blk_CMMG",
    "H_Cap_surfer",
    "H_Cap_police"
];```
I can immediately tell that the script did not run correctly because either me or my friend do not have the random hat at the start of the mission.... What could be causing it to fail?

[little raptor]

then I guess using _x as target was correct?

how many players did it move before?

[past wagon]

only the server host

so 1

[little raptor]

and still 1?

[past wagon]

yep

but it worked in the editor

with AI

but it still wont put me in the damn plane when my friend hosts the mission

[little raptor]

well AI have the same locality as the host, so no surprise there

[past wagon]

oh, nevermind then

I guess it still doesnt work

[copper raven]

moveInCargo takes local arg, i suppose the server owns the _plane, thus only the server player is moved

[past wagon]

well I have tried remoteExec'ing it both for the plane and for the player

there has to be a way to move every player in the mission into a plane lmfao

right?

[little raptor]

initPlayerLocal.sqf is not running for all players
it always runs. the question is what part of it doesn't work?

[past wagon]

well

I know for a fact it isn't always making it to the part where I randomly assign hats

I marked it in the code. sometimes I dont have a hat, and somtimes my friend (the host) doesnt have a hat....

I'm also pretty sure its not just the hats

[little raptor]

well the problem is you're using player directly. player might not be null when the script begins, but it might become null due to respawn

[past wagon]

ok...

what should I do instead?

[copper raven]

what if you try moveInAny?

[past wagon]

doesn't player return the player that is local on the connected client?

[ocean folio]

Done this, it's weird it seems like something ends up in there. Bravo 2-2, but it is in there 4 times?

19:38:40 [[L Bravo 2-2:1],["OBJECT"]]
19:38:46 [[L Bravo 2-2:1],["OBJECT"]]
19:38:46 [[L Bravo 2-2:1],["OBJECT"]]
19:38:49 [[L Bravo 2-2:1],["OBJECT"]]
19:38:50 Starting mission:
19:38:50  Mission file: tempMissionSP
19:38:50  Mission world: Stratis
19:38:50  Mission directory: C:\Users\Aj\Documents\Arma 3 - Other Profiles\Ajdj100\missions\tempMissionSP.Stratis\
19:38:52 "BIS_fnc_log: [preInit] ""DeltaTime computation started"""
19:38:52 Speaker ACE_NoVoice not found in CfgVoiceTypes
19:38:52 [[L Alpha 1-2:1,true,false],["OBJECT","BOOL","BOOL"]]
19:38:52 Bad conversion: array
19:38:52 Error in expression <ker" + str _forEachIndex;    
_newMarker = createMarker [_markerName, _unit];        
_ma>
19:38:52   Error position: <createMarker [_markerName, _unit];        
_ma>
19:38:52   Error 0 elements provided, 3 expected
19:38:52 File AJ_Cache2\functions\fn_moduleNuke.sqf..., line 17
19:38:52 Bad conversion: array
19:38:52 Error in expression <ker" + str _forEachIndex;    
_newMarker = createMarker [_markerName, _unit];        
_ma>
19:38:52   Error position: <createMarker [_markerName, _unit];        
_ma>
19:38:52   Error 0 elements provided, 3 expected
19:38:52 File AJ_Cache2\functions\fn_moduleNuke.sqf..., line 17

[past wagon]

I don't know, but I definitely need to get them into the cargo space, specifically

[little raptor]

what does it have to do with what I said?

player might not be null when the script begins, but it might become null due to respawn

[copper raven]

"bool", "bool"

[past wagon]

there is no respawn

and this is all happening at the start of the mission

[ocean folio]

yeah I just noticed that, Alpha 1-2 "object","bool",'bool"

[little raptor]

then add some sleep before it

[past wagon]

I already do ```sqf
waitUntil { !isnull player };

waitUntil { !isNull findDisplay 46 };

[ocean folio]

I dont really know enough about this log to know where those bool's are coming from. The only place I could think would be that I am misusing the Units paramater

[little raptor]

change private _unit = _x to _x params ["_unit"];

[copper raven]

do forEach (_units select { _x isEqualType objNull }) instead, and yeah, i don't know how the module/whatever parameter stuff works, but you can use the above for some "hacky" solution

[little raptor]

add sleep

[past wagon]

where? just at the start?

[little raptor]

before the set head gear

[ocean folio]

this is just using the temp variable directly instead of creating a whole extra variable to do the same job, correct?

[little raptor]

what temp variable?

[ocean folio]

_x

[little raptor]

I don't understand the question

[ocean folio]

magic variable, temp is the wrong word I guess

[little raptor]

it's kind of the same as:

private _unit = _x select 0;

[copper raven]

that's not the issue, i think you missread

[little raptor]

oh you diag_logged the whole units array

[copper raven]

😄

[little raptor]

then yeah that won't help

[copper raven]

@ocean folio you should fix the parameter stuff to work properly

[little raptor]

so the "units" array is 1 unit + 2 bools which I have no idea what they do...

[copper raven]

what i sent is an ugly fix

[ocean folio]

I will have to do some reading on how the sync'd units get passed through to a module

its a pain that the documentation for the module framework is.... a bit light

[past wagon]

Can I get some help writing a script that moves all players into the cargo space of a vehicle?

[little raptor]

did you try moveInAny like sharp said?

[ocean folio]

lol even with sharp's fix I get the map marker at the module's position and not on the sync'd units. There's definitely something bigger in here that I'm doing wrong. Time for the wiki deep dive

albeit no errors this time

[little raptor]

if only the caller gets moved in maybe your server is blocking moveInCargo

there's no other explanation here

[past wagon]

hmmm

why would it be blocking moveInCargo?

and how?

[little raptor]

does only the caller get moved in?

[past wagon]

seeing as it is completely global, it probably would work, but that doesnt help. I specifically need my players in the cargo

[past wagon]

its called by the server and only the host gets moved in, so yeah

[little raptor]

the point was to test it

[past wagon]

I cant test it rn

[little raptor]

CfgRemoteExec

[past wagon]

how does that work?

[little raptor]

google

[past wagon]

"CfgRemoteExec moveInCargo blocked arma 3"?

[copper raven]

try doing diag_log (_units select 0 getVariable ["myTag_ModuleNuke_Units", []])

[little raptor]

just google cfgRemoteExec

[ocean folio]

I also found this wiki page which.... sigh https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/synchronizedObjects

woulda been nice to know about earlier lol

[copper raven]

yeah but what i sent should give you the units iirc

[ocean folio]

assuming the units param is doing what I think it is

[little raptor]

actually server has no limits according to that page so it can't be that then

[past wagon]

how does it get blocked? how do I check if it's blocked?

and how do I unblock it?

[past wagon]

oh

[little raptor]

as I said if the server is executing the command there's no limit and it's not blocked

[past wagon]

yeah

[ocean folio]

empty

19:59:13 Loading movesType CfgMovesMaleSdr
19:59:13 Reading cached action map data
19:59:13 Warning: looped for animation: a3\anims_f_epa\data\anim\sdr\cts\hubcleaned\briefing\hubbriefing_loop.rtm differs (looped now 0)! MoveName: hubbriefing_ext
19:59:13 Warning: looped for animation: a3\anims_f_epa\data\anim\sdr\cts\hubcleaned\spectator\hubspectator_stand.rtm differs (looped now 1)! MoveName: hubspectator_stand_contact
19:59:13 MovesType CfgMovesMaleSdr load time 920.0 ms
19:59:18 No more slot to add connection at 033057 (3386.8,5735.4)
19:59:20 Strange convex component145 in a3\plants_f\tree\t_pinuss2s_b_f.p3d:geometryView
19:59:20 Strange convex component149 in a3\plants_f\tree\t_pinuss2s_b_f.p3d:geometryView
19:59:22 Fresnel k must be >0, given n=2.51,k=0
19:59:29 []
19:59:33 []
19:59:33 []
19:59:33 []
19:59:34 Starting mission:
19:59:34  Mission file: tempMissionSP
19:59:34  Mission world: Stratis
19:59:34  Mission directory: C:\Users\Aj\Documents\Arma 3 - Other Profiles\Ajdj100\missions\tempMissionSP.Stratis\
19:59:36 "BIS_fnc_log: [preInit] ""DeltaTime computation started"""
19:59:36 Speaker ACE_NoVoice not found in CfgVoiceTypes
19:59:36 []
19:59:37  Mission id: 4326a3297ab0517ea578bca66aba34f9d63c7b7d
19:59:39 Loading movesType CfgMovesSnakes_F
19:59:39 Reading cached action map data

[past wagon]

has no one else ever tried to move multiple players into the cargo space of a vehicle before?

[copper raven]

heh, guess not

but those property var fields have something in common with that

[little raptor]

well I know for a fact it worked before

there has been a change since some updates ago
looks like it was update 2.08...

[past wagon]

ok

is it legitimately impossible?

[ocean folio]

oh right uhhhh.... my module logic also throws an error lmao

I just commented it out and ignored it but I probably will need that

_logic = param [0, objNull, [objNull]];

it throws something about expecting a string but getting objNull, or the opposite

[little raptor]

idk. just to be safe try it like this next time:

{
    [_x, [_plane, _forEachIndex + 2, true]] remoteExec ["moveInCargo", _x];
} forEach allPlayers;

[copper raven]

[[_plane, _forEachIndex + 2], { player moveInCargo _this }] remoteExec ["call", _x] also try something like that

[ocean folio]

this is also 100% ripped from the wiki, I noticed that right away when I was trying the example code they had there that it threw that error

[past wagon]

ok, thanks

[little raptor]

there's a note by KK that says this:

so I guess it is kinda broken

and it's known

[copper raven]

that's for AI i think, no?

[little raptor]

it looks like it

but apparently does the same thing as moveInCargo with index

@past wagon ~~try this one too just for fun 😬 ~~

{
    [[_x, _plane, 2 + _forEachIndex], {
        params ["_unit", "_plane", "_index"];
        _unit assignAsCargoIndex [_plane, _index]; _unit moveInCargo _plane;
    }] remoteExec ["call", _x];
} forEach allPlayers;

[copper raven]

try getvariable "Units" instead

with the config you sent previously

[little raptor]

nvm just tested and indeed it's for AI...

[ocean folio]

the problem is I cant get the logic namespace for the module because of whatever error that code has

20:13:30 Error in expression <\functions\fn_moduleNuke.sqf"

_logic = param [0, objNull, [objNull]];

_units =>
20:13:30   Error position: <param [0, objNull, [objNull]];

_units =>
20:13:30   Error Type String, expected Object

good god this wiki code is borked lmao

[little raptor]

@past wagon I just confirmed it is broken

it's not your fault

[copper raven]

does the call work?

as in wrapping the moveInCargo call

[little raptor]

nvm it's not broken

I was using plane as target

like his code

but it should've been _x, as I guessed

[copper raven]

but he said he tried it and it still didn't work

atleast i hope he meant the remoteExec target not the command

[copper raven]

it's not

[little raptor]

so I guess the cargo index is invalid for him then
I told him to look at config to confirm but I guess he didn't

[copper raven]

if you have is3den set to 1, then args are string and array

[past wagon]

bro its valid

I have tested it out by moving myself into all the different cargo indexes

[little raptor]

so 2 and 3 are valid then?

[past wagon]

I just want to skip 0 and 1. those are turret positions

[past wagon]

yes, and so on

its a blackfish. it has like 30 cargo seats

[ocean folio]

Oh…. I’m just borked lmao. So should I be pulling from different parameters than 0 and 1?

[copper raven]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Modules#Configuring_the_Module_Function see the examples

[bright lagoon]

I think this is the right channel does anyone know if you can use unit capture to make just a regular person walk a certain path / distance then hop into a vehicle that's already been placed or is that impossible with unit capture?

[ocean folio]

I've derived all of this from the is3DEN = 0 code. I feel like such an idiot rn lol

[little raptor]

well I just tested and it works fine for me

[past wagon]

ok

[copper raven]

i don't think you can record the unit moving into a turret, what you can do, is record up until the point where they get in the turret, play that, and move them in via a script command yourself

[past wagon]

so what is the code that will successfully put all the players into cargo seats again?

[little raptor]

this

[past wagon]

ok

[past wagon]

wait. I've already tried that. didnt work

[little raptor]

works fine

[copper raven]

yeah, then after you've sorted the code out, the units should be in the "Units" var in logic's namespace (assuming you haven't changed the config)

[little raptor]

just tested

[past wagon]

with multiple players?

[little raptor]

ofc yes

[past wagon]

ok....

pretty sure it didnt work when I did it

[little raptor]

maybe you didn't update the code properly on the server

[past wagon]

I did

my friend was the one hosting it. I sent him the mission file

[copper raven]

when you said you tried _x as target, were you referring to the remoteExec target?

[past wagon]

yes

when that didnt work, I tried _plane as the target

[little raptor]

maybe he screwed up somewhere

[past wagon]

pretty sure I had him double check the code

guess I'll wait until hes back to test it again

[copper raven]

just start two clients

[past wagon]

wait

I can do that?

how?

[little raptor]

start Arma twice...

[past wagon]

doesnt steam give you an error?

oh

[copper raven]

no

[little raptor]

who even uses Steam...
just use the exe

[past wagon]

from the launcher

ok

idk if my pc will be able to take this

wow

it works

only took like 2 whole days to put all the players in the damn plane

[ocean folio]

welp now I got another error

20:40:50 Error in expression <ll]]; 
_units = _logic getVariable Units;


diag_log [_units, _units apply { typ>
20:40:50   Error position: <;


diag_log [_units, _units apply { typ>
20:40:50   Error Invalid number in expression
20:40:50 File AJ_Cache2\functions\fn_moduleNuke.sqf..., line 8
20:40:50 Error in expression <ll]]; 
_units = _logic getVariable Units;


diag_log [_units, _units apply { typ>
20:40:50   Error position: <;

I dont think this is actually coming from the line it says, unless _logic is for some reason a number

idk lol

learning is fun 😅

currently its pretty bare bones, just getting the params and the debug

_mode = param [0,"",[""]];
_input = param [1,[],[[]]];

switch _mode do {

    case "init": {
        _logic = _input param [0,objNull,[objNull]]; //get module logic
        _units = _logic getVariable Units;


        diag_log [_units, _units apply { typename _x }];

    };
};

I guess it really was line 8, since commenting it out got rid of the error

god this makes me feel silly sometimes. I forgot my quotations

[bright lagoon]

another question for unit capture say you're using a multi crew vehicle like the vanilla arma 3 merkava with unit capture can you unit capture the merkava say driving slow down a road whilst also unit capturing somehow the gunner turning the barrel towards a certain point and firing?

[past wagon]

the following code in initPlayerLocal is only working for the server host, not connected players:

cutRsc ["RscBRHUD", "PLAIN"];
[] spawn {
    while { alive player } do {
      (uiNamespace getVariable ["BRHUD", displayNull]) displayCtrl 1000 ctrlSetText ("Player Health: " + str round ((1 - damage player) * 100) + "%");
      (uiNamespace getVariable ["BRHUD", displayNull]) displayCtrl 1001 ctrlSetText ("Players Remaining: " + str ({ alive _x } count allPlayers));
      sleep 1;
    };
};

the GUI is only opening for the server host

and this code that is executed on the server is also only working for the server host:

[_zoneMarker] spawn {
    params ["_zoneMarker"];
    PP_wetD = ppEffectCreate ["WetDistortion", 300];
    PP_wetD ppEffectAdjust [3, 0.2, 0.2, 0.2, 0.2, 0.2, 0.2, 0.05, 0.01, 0.05, 0.01, 0.1, 0.1, 0.2, 0.2];
    PP_wetD ppEffectCommit 0;
    PP_film = ppEffectCreate ["FilmGrain", 2000];
    PP_film ppEffectAdjust [0.5, 1, 1.5, 0.5, 0.5, true];
    PP_film ppEffectCommit 0;
    while { true } do {
        sleep 1;
        {
            [_zoneMarker, _x] spawn {
                params ["_zoneMarker", "_player"];
                if !(_player inArea _zoneMarker) then {
                    _zoneDamage = if (typeOf vehicle _player in ["B_MRAP_01_F", "O_MRAP_02_F"]) then {
                        3 / (getMarkerSize _zoneMarker select 0)
                    } else {
                        5 / (getMarkerSize _zoneMarker select 0)
                    };
                    [PP_wetD, true] remoteExec ["ppEffectEnable", _player];
                    [PP_film, true] remoteExec ["ppEffectEnable", _player];
                    sleep 1;
                    if !(_player inArea _zoneMarker) then {
                        _player setDamage (damage _player + _zoneDamage);
                    };
                } else {
                    [PP_wetD, false] remoteExec ["ppEffectEnable", _player];
                    [PP_film, false] remoteExec ["ppEffectEnable", _player];
                };
            };
        } forEach allPlayers;
    };
};

what am I doing wrong? everything works great when I test it in multiplayer by myself, but nothing works for players other than the host. is there something I'm not considering? I don't see anything wrong with this code

[little raptor]

vanilla unitcapture can't do that no

[little raptor]

the effects are only created locally

[little raptor]

remove alive player condition from while

just use true

[past wagon]

ok

[past wagon]

so I just need to remoteExec the creation and adjustment of them?

[little raptor]

you need to remoteExec the whole code

[past wagon]

ok...

[open fractal]

shouldn't it just work in initPlayerLocal? So long as while {true} is used

[past wagon]

[_zoneMarker, {
    [_this select 0] spawn {
        params ["_zoneMarker"];
        PP_wetD = ppEffectCreate ["WetDistortion", 300];
        PP_wetD ppEffectAdjust [3, 0.2, 0.2, 0.2, 0.2, 0.2, 0.2, 0.05, 0.01, 0.05, 0.01, 0.1, 0.1, 0.2, 0.2];
        PP_wetD ppEffectCommit 0;
        PP_film = ppEffectCreate ["FilmGrain", 2000];
        PP_film ppEffectAdjust [0.5, 1, 1.5, 0.5, 0.5, true];
        PP_film ppEffectCommit 0;
        while { true } do {
            sleep 1;
            {
                [_zoneMarker, _x] spawn {
                    params ["_zoneMarker", "_player"];
                    if !(_player inArea _zoneMarker) then {
                        _zoneDamage = if (typeOf vehicle _player in ["B_MRAP_01_F", "O_MRAP_02_F"]) then {
                            3 / (getMarkerSize _zoneMarker select 0)
                        } else {
                            5 / (getMarkerSize _zoneMarker select 0)
                        };
                        PP_wetD ppEffectEnable true;
                        PP_film ppEffectEnable true;
                        sleep 1;
                        if !(_player inArea _zoneMarker) then {
                            _player setDamage (damage _player + _zoneDamage);
                        };
                    } else {
                        PP_wetD ppEffectEnable false;
                        PP_film ppEffectEnable false;
                    };
                };
            } forEach allPlayers;
        };
    };
}] remoteExec ["call"];
``` Is this better @little raptor ?