#arma3_scripting | ARMA | Page 270

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 1:47 AM

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See it if it actually evaluates the code.

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Also I don't think opfor is a valid entry.

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It's east thats valid

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Not opfor.

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To check just type side into the watch field

rotund cypress Dec 10, 2016, 1:48 AM

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oh yeah

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but

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 1:48 AM

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It will return values.

rotund cypress Dec 10, 2016, 1:48 AM

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west didnt work either

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and this used to work

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 1:48 AM

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Code didn't even run?

rotund cypress Dec 10, 2016, 1:48 AM

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now it doesnt

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i tried but then i changed something which led it to stop working

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 1:51 AM

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Are you working with the current file?

rotund cypress Dec 10, 2016, 1:51 AM

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yes

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 1:52 AM

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Does the control exist?

rotund cypress Dec 10, 2016, 1:52 AM

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yes

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private _sideColour = _display displayCtrl 12454;

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 1:52 AM

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diag_log format ["%1",_sideColour];

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See if it exists.

rotund cypress Dec 10, 2016, 1:53 AM

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((uiNameSpace getVariable "RscMetaGame") displayCtrl 12454)

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 1:55 AM

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Exists?

rotund cypress Dec 10, 2016, 1:55 AM

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yes

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 1:56 AM

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Whats the rest of the code?

rotund cypress Dec 10, 2016, 1:56 AM

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what code?

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 1:56 AM

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The stuff that actually invokes the GUI?

rotund cypress Dec 10, 2016, 1:57 AM

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private _display = uiNameSpace getVariable "RscMetaGame";

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private _sideColour = _display displayCtrl 12454;

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switch (_playerSide) do {

    case west: {

        _sideColour ctrlSetBackgroundColor [0, 0.3, 0.6, 1];

    };

    case independent: {

        _sideColour ctrlSetBackgroundColor [0, 0.5, 0, 1];

    };

    case civilian: {

        _sideColour ctrlSetBackgroundColor [0.4, 0, 0.5, 1];

    };

    case east: {

        _sideColour ctrlSetBackgroundColor [0.5, 0, 0, 1];

    };

};```

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 1:57 AM

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Is this called or spawn'd?

rotund cypress Dec 10, 2016, 1:57 AM

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spawn'd

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 1:58 AM

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disableSerialization

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Try that.

rotund cypress Dec 10, 2016, 1:58 AM

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already have it

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 1:58 AM

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at the top?

rotund cypress Dec 10, 2016, 1:58 AM

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yep

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 1:59 AM

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Okay so what value is target?

rotund cypress Dec 10, 2016, 1:59 AM

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private _target = cursorObject;

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ive set other values with like ctrlsettext and that works

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its just the background that is not setting

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 2:01 AM

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https://feedback.bistudio.com/T78904

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Wonder if thats related.

rotund cypress Dec 10, 2016, 2:01 AM

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that is rscbutton

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im using RscText

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and it worked

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before

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now its not working anymore

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 2:02 AM

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What did you change?

rotund cypress Dec 10, 2016, 2:02 AM

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i dont know

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I think nothing

tame portal Dec 10, 2016, 2:03 AM

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If it's not working anymore you changed something 100%

rotund cypress Dec 10, 2016, 2:03 AM

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i know but i dont know what

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 2:03 AM

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^

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This is why you use BitBucket

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or Github

rotund cypress Dec 10, 2016, 2:03 AM

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I use git

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BUT

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 2:03 AM

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Use a previous snapshot?

rotund cypress Dec 10, 2016, 2:03 AM

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I dont commit until im done

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 2:03 AM

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...

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Comment everything...

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This is why...

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When stuff breaks you know what happened.

rotund cypress Dec 10, 2016, 2:04 AM

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But I cant commit for each line of code I write

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 2:04 AM

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Self-documenting vars?

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etc?

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Also

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Who thinks this is dirty code

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This is froma community I hate.

dusk sage Dec 10, 2016, 2:05 AM

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So what's the current error @rotund cypress ?

rotund cypress Dec 10, 2016, 2:05 AM

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No errors

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 2:05 AM

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/*
    File: fn_keyInfo.sqf
    Author: Redacted

    Desc:
    Displays info for the selected key's vehicle in the key menu dialog
*/

private ["_selection","_distance","_display","_displayDistance"];
disableSerialization;

_selection = _this select 0 select 1;
_distance = round(player distance (life_ogVehicles select _selection));

if (_distance >= 100000000) then {_distance = 0};

waitUntil {!isNull (findDisplay 2700)};
_display = findDisplay 2700;
_displayDistance = _display displayCtrl 228804;

_displayDistance ctrlSetText format["Distance: %1m",[_distance] call life_fnc_numberText];

/* ---------- END OF SCRIPT ---------- */

rotund cypress Dec 10, 2016, 2:05 AM

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Background is not setting @dusk sage

buoyant heath Dec 10, 2016, 2:05 AM

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If you use self documenting vars, think of how easy it will be for other sneaky servers to snag your code!

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 2:05 AM

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^

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I spewed chips when I saw that disgusting function

dusk sage Dec 10, 2016, 2:06 AM

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Perhaps it's not their intent to make the code readable to a third party?

buoyant heath Dec 10, 2016, 2:06 AM

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If it mostly works, they're usually happy enough

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 2:07 AM

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No their dev team is full of retards

dusk sage Dec 10, 2016, 2:07 AM

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Code makes sense to me

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@rotund cypress Full snippet?

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 2:07 AM

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They have no idea about computational feasibility.

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It's all bastardised stuff too.

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From other communities.

dusk sage Dec 10, 2016, 2:07 AM

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They have no idea about computational feasibility.

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What's the point in saying that?

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 2:08 AM

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Give you another example.

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private["_allVeh","_pUID"];

sleep 5;
 
_allVeh = allMissionObjects "Car" + allMissionObjects "Air" + allMissionObjects "Ship";
_name = profileName;
    
{
    _owners = _x getVariable ["vehicle_info_owners",[]];
    _index = [_name,_owners] call fnc_index;
    if(!(_index == -1)) then {
        life_ogVehicles set[count life_ogVehicles, _x];
    };    
} foreach _allVeh;

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Lets iteratively search the entire map for all objects.

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...

buoyant heath Dec 10, 2016, 2:09 AM

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Ehh, that all's already tracked by the engine.

dusk sage Dec 10, 2016, 2:09 AM

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There isn't 1000000 vehicles

buoyant heath Dec 10, 2016, 2:09 AM

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If they were using nearestObjects I'd be really worried

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 2:09 AM

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And concatonate them into a giant array.

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It's a 135 player server.

dusk sage Dec 10, 2016, 2:09 AM

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So what

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 2:09 AM

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There is a lot of traffic.

dusk sage Dec 10, 2016, 2:09 AM

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you have like 200-300 vehicles?

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Which run unscheduled would take milliseconds

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 2:09 AM

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"miliseconds"

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It's running scheduled

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sleep 5;

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At the top.

buoyant heath Dec 10, 2016, 2:10 AM

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Shouldn't be much traffic. They're not public'ing it in there. Not sure why they're waiting before checking.

dusk sage Dec 10, 2016, 2:10 AM

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so it waits before running

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even scheduled it'll take little to no time

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 2:10 AM

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life_ogVehicles set[count life_ogVehicles, _x]; <--- Pushback?

buoyant heath Dec 10, 2016, 2:11 AM

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aye

dusk sage Dec 10, 2016, 2:11 AM

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sure

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How old is the code?

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 2:11 AM

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And they claim to have a "framework"

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They have NOTHING.

dusk sage Dec 10, 2016, 2:12 AM

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Why are you being so salty about it

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The code you posted of one of your first projects was a thousand times worse

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You seem to think that code is the scum of the earth

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It's not perfect

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But it's not going to crash their server

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 2:13 AM

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I plan on becoming a computer scientist / nanotechnologist?

dusk sage Dec 10, 2016, 2:14 AM

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huh?

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 2:14 AM

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So salty isn't the right word.

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Also I have the hacker ethic.

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Make elegent, efficient code.

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Not a butchered mess.

dusk sage Dec 10, 2016, 2:15 AM

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They have NOTHING.

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 2:15 AM

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It's why I changed the EH handled mission code.

dusk sage Dec 10, 2016, 2:15 AM

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Seems pretty salt to me

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Sure, so you've gone from awful code to code that could be good?

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And you're slamming this, because it doesn't appeal to you?

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#offtopic_arma

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 2:16 AM

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Comparing it to ACE3 / CBA?

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It's disgusting.

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Also "calling themselves devs" is what really erk'd me.

dusk sage Dec 10, 2016, 2:16 AM

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#offtopic_arma

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 2:16 AM

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Agreed.

rancid ruin Dec 10, 2016, 3:05 AM

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can i get a hacker ethic too please?

dusk sage Dec 10, 2016, 3:12 AM

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teach me senpai

rancid ruin Dec 10, 2016, 3:14 AM

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i don't care if that's bad scripting or not, but it seems very bad manners to berate them in public

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there's a lot of people in this discord, some of which could be from this community you have a vendetta against

dusk sage Dec 10, 2016, 3:24 AM

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👀

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I guess you found the answer 😄 ?

meager granite Dec 10, 2016, 3:25 AM

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Yep, as usual as soon as I ask I find the answer myself right away

dusk sage Dec 10, 2016, 3:25 AM

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What was it?

meager granite Dec 10, 2016, 3:27 AM

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Check if entity is backpack apart from isKindOf Bag_Base, there is isbackpack value in config that defines it

dusk sage Dec 10, 2016, 3:27 AM

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oh 🤦

meager granite Dec 10, 2016, 3:29 AM

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I wonder what "reversed" in config is

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/CfgVehicles_Config_Reference#reversed doesn't really tell

CfgVehicles Config Reference

dusk sage Dec 10, 2016, 3:30 AM

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I'm going to take a stab at it being a class thing

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🤦

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This overrides the default

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Reverse the reverse?

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Kind of doesn't make sense

meager granite Dec 10, 2016, 3:31 AM

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Yeah, that's why I'm wondering

dusk sage Dec 10, 2016, 3:32 AM

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http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=arma logic

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 3:53 AM

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@rotund cypress Solve your problem?

dusk sage Dec 10, 2016, 3:56 AM

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He did

meager granite Dec 10, 2016, 4:39 AM

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So InventoryOpened is not fully fixed 🙄

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If you open body with crate nearby, EH only reports the body but not crate while both are available in the inventory menu

rancid ruin Dec 10, 2016, 8:22 AM

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have they made the arma team significantly smaller?

open vigil Dec 10, 2016, 8:56 AM

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But have they actually? The same was said during A2, but it was regarding QA (and players wondering why BI were releasing employees to other projects) and the employees that had moved on to another project were artists (iirc).

bright coral Dec 10, 2016, 9:12 AM

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The destroyed vehicle problem is really annoying

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The sound sticks on one side till the vehicle gets deleted, doesn't matter where you are, the sound is always there

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Yes

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Yes

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120,887 people who own a free project are now more important than 2,782,910 people who own a product which people still buy 😃

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Btw, setShotsParents works perfectly fine, am using it since it is available

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There is no secret, just use it as it is described in the wiki

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setShotsParents [vehicle _unit, _unit]

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not vice versa

thick lintel Dec 10, 2016, 9:18 AM

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Is the facewear bug new? Any units that enter water, even if ankle deep, their face wear disappears. Only just noticed it this morning.

bright coral Dec 10, 2016, 9:19 AM

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Yes, still server. I'm creating a CAS plane with an AI on the server and the player who called the CAS plane gets the points of the AI kills (just one example, doing the same with arty)

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_plane setVariable ["d_who_fired", _caller];
_plane addEventhandler ["fired", {
    params ["_vec"];
    private _whof = _vec getVariable "d_who_fired";
    if (!isNil "_whof") then {
        private _aop = missionNamespace getVariable _whof;
        if (!isNil "_aop" && {!isNull _aop}) then {
            _this select 6 setShotParents [_vec, _aop];
        };
    };
}];

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Code tags?

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I'm using the variable name and reading the unit from mission namespace

rancid ruin Dec 10, 2016, 10:58 AM

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is mouseButtonClick eventhandler broken? worth reporting it as a bug?

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    disableSerialization; 
    private _parentDisplay = (findDisplay 12); 
    waitUntil { !(isNull _parentDisplay) }; 
    _ctrl = _parentDisplay ctrlCreate ["RscButton", 6557]; 
    _ctrl ctrlSetPosition [SafeZoneX + (15 / 1920) * SafeZoneW, SafeZoneY + (795.25 / 1080) * SafeZoneH];  
    _ctrl ctrlSetText "default"; 
    _ctrl ctrlAddEventHandler ["MouseButtonDown", {_this select 0 ctrlSetText "down" }];
    _ctrl ctrlAddEventHandler ["MouseButtonUp", {_this select 0 ctrlSetText "up" }];
    _ctrl ctrlAddEventHandler ["MouseButtonClick", {_this select 0 ctrlSetText "clicked" }];
    _ctrl ctrlCommit 0;
};```

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surely it should fire on mouse down + mouse up over ctrl, rather than after a second or so of mousedown?

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^ can test by running that, opening map, clicking button

austere granite Dec 10, 2016, 2:39 PM

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i think its because there's a seperate one for double click, so it waits if you don't do a double click

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not 100% sure on it, but that's what i think it was

pliant stream Dec 10, 2016, 4:30 PM

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anyone ever succesfully use an X macro in arma?

worldly kernel Dec 10, 2016, 4:30 PM

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when you go to properties on your arma 3 dedicated box to change the target or command line, you cannot fully enter it as it will cut off towards the end

little eagle Dec 10, 2016, 4:46 PM

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@thick lintel Facewear disappearing in water is intentional

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@rancid ruin your code is nonsensical

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if #12 is null, the waitUntil loop is infinite

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even if #12 appears later, you stored a null display in your variable

tender root Dec 10, 2016, 4:49 PM

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Hey all, just little question: Are the MissionEHs Local or Global, so do I have to add them for each client ? Thanks in advance 😃

little eagle Dec 10, 2016, 4:49 PM

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they are only executed on the machine they were attached on

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you have to use addMissionEventHandler on every machine

tender root Dec 10, 2016, 4:50 PM

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@little eagle cool thanks 😃

vague hull Dec 10, 2016, 7:02 PM

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is there something like "ctrlFocused"? or any other way to detect whether a certain active text is selected?

little eagle Dec 10, 2016, 7:08 PM

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no

vague hull Dec 10, 2016, 7:10 PM

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damn, yet thanks :)

rotund cypress Dec 10, 2016, 7:26 PM

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will this most likely lag out the server?

while { true } do {
if ( visibleMap && { "ItemGPS" in (assignedItems player) } || { "B_UavTerminal" in (assignedItems player) } ) then {

};

sleep 2;

};```

vague hull Dec 10, 2016, 7:27 PM

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not really, but its not optimal anyway

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why would you run that on the server?

rotund cypress Dec 10, 2016, 7:57 PM

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I just want to do stuff when those equals true

vague hull Dec 10, 2016, 8:05 PM

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is it run on client or server? if on client, then it should be ok

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you can also use this then:

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Event_Handlers/addMissionEventHandler#Map

rotund cypress Dec 10, 2016, 8:12 PM

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its run on client init

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oh I guess I could

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So then when each user is opening map it will spawn for example if i spawn within that eventhandler?

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@vague hull

vague hull Dec 10, 2016, 8:17 PM

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only for that certain user who opened it but yeah

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it will call that code you assigned

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 10:31 PM

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Any ideas why this isn't working?

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["Initialize", [selectRandom (call Tactics_Core_GetPlayersInArena), [], true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true]] call BIS_fnc_EGSpectator;

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Tactics_Core_GetPlayersInArena returns all units in the arena

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those units are AI which are remote controlled by players

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This works, but isn't what I want: ["Initialize", [player, [], true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true]] call BIS_fnc_EGSpectator;

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Documentation on the EG Spectator system: https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/EG_Spectator_Mode

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 10:36 PM

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What does call Tactics_core_getPlayeresInArena return?

little eagle Dec 10, 2016, 10:37 PM

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Probably an array of playable units in an area

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if the function name means anything

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 10:38 PM

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^

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Tactics_Core_GetPlayersInArena =
{
(call Tactics_Core_GetPlayers) inAreaArray Tactics_Core_ArenaVolume;
};

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Tactics_Core_GetPlayers =
{
allUnits select { alive _x && isPlayer(_x getVariable ["Tactics_Player", objNull]) };
};

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The functions do return the correct units as expected

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but it looks like BIS' spectator system doesn't like those units for some reason and won't initialize

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 10:40 PM

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It does return players yes?

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 10:41 PM

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_x getVariable ["Tactics_Player", objNull] <----- should point to the player who controls the unit

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 10:41 PM

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okay nvm.

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Does it actually return anything?

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 10:41 PM

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yes

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 10:41 PM

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Tactics_Player ?

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 10:41 PM

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everything on my end works

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 10:42 PM

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Have you looked at the functions viewer?

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 10:42 PM

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it's BI's spectator system that isn't working as I expect

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What am I looking for in the functions viewer?

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I took a quick glance at the EGSpectator function

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 10:43 PM

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EGSpector?

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Wheres it located?

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 10:43 PM

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I don't plan on taking it apart and repurposing it.

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configFile >> All >> Spectator

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 10:43 PM

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Not take it apart.

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 10:45 PM

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I am hoping that there is a way to just position the spectator camera to where I want, instead of requiring that I pass in a unit to focus on

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but I didn't see anything on who to do that

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@tough abyss A3\functions_f_exp_a\EGSpectator\fn_EGSpectator.sqf

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that's the path

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 10:47 PM

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Do you have ArmA 3 Addons dev environment setup?

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 10:48 PM

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yes

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the work drive?

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"ArmA 3 Tools"

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 10:48 PM

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/*
Author:
Nelson Duarte

Description:
Spectator instance

Returns:
Multiple values / none

Examples:
["Initialize", [player]] call BIS_fnc_EGSpectator;     // Initializes spectator for given player
["Terminate"] call BIS_fnc_EGSpectator;             // Terminates spectator for given player

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Wrong params?

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Thats it.

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 10:49 PM

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there are optional params

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/EG_Spectator_Mode#Full Control

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 10:49 PM

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ah nvm I see.

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 10:50 PM

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I'm not opposed to using a third-party spectator script as long as I can specify the units available to spectate, as well as being able to terminate the spectator mode at ease.

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I just prefer the fluidity of BI's spectator mode

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or if you want to say, "splendidness" lol

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 10:52 PM

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I actually have another communities framework

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Where they've hooked into this.

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I don't steal stuff by the way.

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I told them what I wanted it for, they said sure.

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Anyones code I use to learn from new stuff.

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[] call bis_fnc_respawnspectator;

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Thats all I can see they used.

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Have you tried to directly call the code?

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["Initialize", [player, [], true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true]] call BIS_fnc_EGSpectator;

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?

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Old programming addage is if you can't solve something with complex code.

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Simplify it.

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See if that works @wispy cosmos

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 10:56 PM

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just tried [] call bis_fnc_respawnspectator;

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it doesn't allow me to spectate my AI units

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some background with how my mission works

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 10:56 PM

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Try the other one.

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The full initization code.

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 10:57 PM

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when a player joins, it creates an AI unit which they switch in and out of using remoteControl

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I want to only spectate those AI units

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["Initialize", [player, [], true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true]] call BIS_fnc_EGSpectator; <-- this worked before, but it won't let me spectate AI units

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it focuses on the dummy player unit but won't accept the remote-controllable AI units

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 10:58 PM

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does remoteControl, change locality?

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 10:58 PM

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if you want, you can join my server and tinker around with it

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I have the debug console enabled in the mission

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 10:59 PM

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Sure.

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 10:59 PM

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add me http://steamcommunity.com/id/zooloo75/

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 10:59 PM

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I am wonder if it's locality realted.

little eagle Dec 10, 2016, 10:59 PM

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does remoteControl, change locality?
Yes

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 10:59 PM

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Yeah thought so.

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Server or client?

little eagle Dec 10, 2016, 10:59 PM

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except for gunners in those drones I guess. where only the turret becomes local when someone else is driving

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 11:00 PM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/remoteControl

little eagle Dec 10, 2016, 11:00 PM

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Server or client?
machine that is remote controling

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yeah. the wiiki says it all

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:00 PM

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here's my two functions which allow the player to control and revoke control of the unit

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Tactics_Client_GainControl =
{
if(Tactics_Core_IsHardcoreMode) then
{
cutText ["", "BLACK IN", 0.1];
}
else
{
cutText [format ["Turn %1: It's your turn.", Tactics_Core_CurrentTurn],"PLAIN", 0.25];
playSound "defaultNotification";
};
["Terminate"] call BIS_fnc_EGSpectator;
switchCamera Tactics_Client_ControlledUnit;
player remoteControl Tactics_Client_ControlledUnit;
};

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Tactics_Client_RemoveControl =
{
if(alive Tactics_Client_ControlledUnit && Tactics_Client_ControlledUnit call Tactics_Core_IsInArena || Tactics_Core_IsGameOver) then
{
if(Tactics_Core_IsHardcoreMode) then
{
cutText [format ["Turn %1: Please wait...", Tactics_Core_CurrentTurn],"BLACK OUT", 0.25];
}
else
{
cutText [format ["Turn %1: Please wait...", Tactics_Core_CurrentTurn],"PLAIN", 0.25];
};
[] spawn
{
_position = getPosASL Tactics_Client_ControlledUnit;
_tick = diag_tickTime;
disableUserInput true;
waitUntil { diag_tickTime != _tick };
objNull remoteControl Tactics_Client_ControlledUnit;
if(Tactics_Core_IsHardcoreMode) then
{
switchCamera Tactics_Client_HardcoreCameraGameLogic;
}
else
{
switchCamera Tactics_Client_ControlledUnit;
};
Tactics_Client_ControlledUnit disableAI "ALL";
Tactics_Client_ControlledUnit setPosASL _position;
disableUserInput false;
};
}
else
{
cutText [format ["Turn %1", Tactics_Core_CurrentTurn], "PLAIN DOWN", 0.25];
};
};

little eagle Dec 10, 2016, 11:01 PM

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at the start and end for code blocks

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:01 PM

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I wasn't sure how to do code formatting on here

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 11:02 PM

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back ticks

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code here

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:02 PM

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<test>

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<<test

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back ticks?

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 11:02 PM

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No back ticks

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Left hand side of your keyboard

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Where the ~ key is

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:02 PM

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`test

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~ts

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 11:02 PM

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3

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at the beginning and end

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:03 PM

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~test~

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test

#

oh

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 11:03 PM

#

yeah that.

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You know I'll make your life even easier.

little eagle Dec 10, 2016, 11:03 PM

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that's not a block, but a line

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 11:03 PM

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2 seconds

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:03 PM

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Tactics_Client_GainControl = { if(Tactics_Core_IsHardcoreMode) then { cutText ["", "BLACK IN", 0.1]; } else { cutText [format ["Turn %1: It's your turn.", Tactics_Core_CurrentTurn],"PLAIN", 0.25]; playSound "defaultNotification"; }; ["Terminate"] call BIS_fnc_EGSpectator; switchCamera Tactics_Client_ControlledUnit; player remoteControl Tactics_Client_ControlledUnit; }; Tactics_Client_RemoveControl = { if(alive Tactics_Client_ControlledUnit && Tactics_Client_ControlledUnit call Tactics_Core_IsInArena || Tactics_Core_IsGameOver) then { if(Tactics_Core_IsHardcoreMode) then { cutText [format ["Turn %1: Please wait...", Tactics_Core_CurrentTurn],"BLACK OUT", 0.25]; } else { cutText [format ["Turn %1: Please wait...", Tactics_Core_CurrentTurn],"PLAIN", 0.25]; }; [] spawn { _position = getPosASL Tactics_Client_ControlledUnit; _tick = diag_tickTime; disableUserInput true; waitUntil { diag_tickTime != _tick }; objNull remoteControl Tactics_Client_ControlledUnit; if(Tactics_Core_IsHardcoreMode) then { switchCamera Tactics_Client_HardcoreCameraGameLogic; } else { switchCamera Tactics_Client_ControlledUnit; }; Tactics_Client_ControlledUnit disableAI "ALL"; Tactics_Client_ControlledUnit setPosASL _position; disableUserInput false; }; } else { cutText [format ["Turn %1", Tactics_Core_CurrentTurn], "PLAIN DOWN", 0.25]; }; };

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there..

little eagle Dec 10, 2016, 11:03 PM

#

nah

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three of them

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times 2

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:03 PM

#

{
    if(Tactics_Core_IsHardcoreMode) then
    {
        cutText ["", "BLACK IN", 0.1];
    }
    else
    {
        cutText [format ["Turn %1: It's your turn.", Tactics_Core_CurrentTurn],"PLAIN", 0.25];
        playSound "defaultNotification";
    };
    ["Terminate"] call BIS_fnc_EGSpectator;
    switchCamera Tactics_Client_ControlledUnit;
    player remoteControl Tactics_Client_ControlledUnit;
};
Tactics_Client_RemoveControl =
{
    if(alive Tactics_Client_ControlledUnit && Tactics_Client_ControlledUnit call Tactics_Core_IsInArena || Tactics_Core_IsGameOver) then
    {
        if(Tactics_Core_IsHardcoreMode) then
        {
            cutText [format ["Turn %1: Please wait...", Tactics_Core_CurrentTurn],"BLACK OUT", 0.25];
        }
        else
        {
            cutText [format ["Turn %1: Please wait...", Tactics_Core_CurrentTurn],"PLAIN", 0.25];
        };
        [] spawn
        {
            _position = getPosASL Tactics_Client_ControlledUnit;
            _tick = diag_tickTime;
            disableUserInput true;
            waitUntil { diag_tickTime != _tick };
            objNull remoteControl Tactics_Client_ControlledUnit;
            if(Tactics_Core_IsHardcoreMode) then
            {
                switchCamera Tactics_Client_HardcoreCameraGameLogic;
            }
            else
            {
                switchCamera Tactics_Client_ControlledUnit;
            };
            Tactics_Client_ControlledUnit disableAI "ALL";
            Tactics_Client_ControlledUnit setPosASL _position;
            disableUserInput false;
        };
    }
    else
    {
        cutText [format ["Turn %1", Tactics_Core_CurrentTurn], "PLAIN DOWN", 0.25];
    };
};```

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got it

#

thanks

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 11:03 PM

#

Just to help more

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https://support.discordapp.com/hc/en-us/articles/210298617-Markdown-Text-101-Chat-Formatting-Bold-Italic-Underline-

#

Thats all of markdown

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:04 PM

#

this is also relevant:

#

{
    _side = param [0];
    _unit = Tactics_Client_DummyGroup createUnit ["C_man_1", [0, 0, 0], [], 0, "FORM"];
    [_unit] joinSilent Tactics_Client_DummyGroup;
    [_unit] joinSilent grpNull;
    if(_side == west) then
    {
        _unit call Tactics_Client_LoadSWATLoadout;
    }
    else
    {
        _unit call Tactics_Client_LoadTerroristLoadout;
    };
    _unit setVariable ["Tactics_Player", player, true];
    _unit disableAI "ALL";
    _unit addEventHandler ["HandleDamage",
    {
        _unit = _this select 0;
        _damage = _this select 2;
        _source = _this select 3;
        if(_source != objNull) then
        {
            _damage = _damage * Tactics_Core_DamageModifier;
        };
        (damage _unit) + _damage;
    }];
    _unit addEventHandler ["Killed",
    {
        ["Initialize", [selectRandom (call Tactics_Core_GetPlayersInArena), [], true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true]] call BIS_fnc_EGSpectator;
    }];

    if(!isNull Tactics_Client_ControlledUnit) then
    {
        deleteVehicle Tactics_Client_ControlledUnit;
    };
    Tactics_Client_ControlledUnit = _unit;
};```

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 11:04 PM

#

Thats me Zooloo75

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:05 PM

#

?

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 11:05 PM

#

I sent a friend request

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on Steam

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:05 PM

#

oh

#

no mods

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 11:07 PM

#

You should use CBA_A3

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For development allows you to go backwards

#

in the code you've executed

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And select previous code you executed

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Just make sure you remove the CBA_A3 addon reference when your done.

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:09 PM

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?

#

like a call stack?

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not sure what you mean

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 11:10 PM

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Similar yes.

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:10 PM

#

How do you do that in CBA? I've never noticed anything like that.

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 11:11 PM

#

One sec.

#

Uploading a screen

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See @wispy cosmos

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:13 PM

#

oh

#

you mean the debug console

#

I thought you were talking about CBA magically tracking everything that gets executed

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 11:13 PM

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It does.

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Those previous execute buttons?

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and next?

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Allow you to select previous code to execute

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:14 PM

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it's just a history feature

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not a call stack

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don't even see how the latter would be possible

little eagle Dec 10, 2016, 11:14 PM

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debug console has a history with CBA

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:14 PM

#

yea

little eagle Dec 10, 2016, 11:15 PM

#

and in ACE we have call stacks

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:15 PM

#

I know that

little eagle Dec 10, 2016, 11:15 PM

#

powered by CBA

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 11:15 PM

#

Still makes it easier.

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^

little eagle Dec 10, 2016, 11:15 PM

#

but you have to set up all your functions in a way to support it

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:15 PM

#

welp

little eagle Dec 10, 2016, 11:15 PM

#

magically it won't work

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:15 PM

#

Of course

#

I'd imagine you could feed in the text from a script and programatically inject a variable that tracks the progress after each statement

little eagle Dec 10, 2016, 11:16 PM

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needs to use PREP() macro to define those functions

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:16 PM

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then have a pseudo-call stack

little eagle Dec 10, 2016, 11:16 PM

#

no it's just a function header that can be added by enabling debug mode

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:16 PM

#

cool

#

anyways, back to this spectator camera issue

#

😛

little eagle Dec 10, 2016, 11:17 PM

#

i don't know anything about that

#

just wanted to correct when I saw CBA/ACE

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:17 PM

#

don't even know why that was brought up

little eagle Dec 10, 2016, 11:17 PM

#

shrug

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:18 PM

#

just trying to figure out why BI's spectator system doesn't want to spectate certain units

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 11:18 PM

#

It was brought up because I've found CBA_A3's history feature to be really helpful.

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:18 PM

#

yea, it's useful

little eagle Dec 10, 2016, 11:18 PM

#

why BI's spectator system doesn't want to spectate certain units

#

maybe

#

just maybe

#

it's broken

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:19 PM

#

kinda figured

little eagle Dec 10, 2016, 11:19 PM

#

wouldn't be the first time

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:19 PM

#

going to do an isolated test to narrow down the possible issues

little eagle Dec 10, 2016, 11:19 PM

#

good. simple repros

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:20 PM

#

could be because I'm a player who is remoteControl'ing into the AI unit which is created on my client system

#

idk

#

locality issues?

#

there's bound to be something preventing these units from being used by the spectator system

#

some illogical filter...

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 11:21 PM

#

Test it easily Zooloo75

#

Use local

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local unit

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:21 PM

#

well, I know the AI units are local

#

they're created on the client system

#

and they're grouped to a dummy group created on the client system

#

gonna just try someone else's spectator system and see how that goes

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 11:22 PM

#

Tried directly calling the unit spawn'd?

#

in the EGSpector function to see what happens?

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:22 PM

#

already tried

#

    {
        ["Initialize", [selectRandom (call Tactics_Core_GetPlayersInArena), [], true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true]] call BIS_fnc_EGSpectator;
    }];```

#

this is where the spectator system is supposed to start up

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 11:23 PM

#

Lets stick this in watch field

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:23 PM

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when the remote controlled unit dies, it goes into spectator

#

or it should...

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 11:23 PM

#

and do an exhaustive test.

#

selectRandom (call Tactics_Core_GetPlayersInArena)

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See if it through someting wrong.

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:23 PM

#

already did that

#

all my functions work correctly

#

something is happening in the EG Spectator system which doesn't accept my arguments

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 11:26 PM

#

Thats what I'm thinking

#

checked out the INC data?

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:26 PM

#

I haven't

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 11:26 PM

#

the INC contains all the macros

meager granite Dec 10, 2016, 11:26 PM

#

What happens over network when you add magazine with addMagazineCargo (not global) to say your uniform container and then drop it on the ground? Will magazines somehow sync to everyone since it was active player uniform?

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 11:26 PM

#

To the code.

meager granite Dec 10, 2016, 11:27 PM

#

Or same question from the other side, does calling addMagazine and have it added to your uniform broadcast it over network right away? (or even registers in BE's addmagazinecargo log)

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:27 PM

#

@meager granite I'd figure that it would create a global weapon container in the world

#

and place the appropriate gear into it

#

just a guess

#

can't give a definite answer on that though

little eagle Dec 10, 2016, 11:28 PM

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define "right away"

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 11:28 PM

#

@Zooloo did you add a side whitelist?

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:28 PM

#

@tough abyss no

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 11:28 PM

#

Try that.

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:28 PM

#

ok

#

didn't do anything

meager granite Dec 10, 2016, 11:29 PM

#

Right away, synced to other clients right away

little eagle Dec 10, 2016, 11:29 PM

#

it is synched as long as it was used on a local unit

meager granite Dec 10, 2016, 11:29 PM

#

Or maybe delayed sync somehow, I'm not exactly sure how it works for player-worn containers, maybe there is special behavior

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 11:30 PM

#

Oh this is interesting

#

        // Make sure call was not done by a dedicated server or headless client
        if (!hasInterface) exitWith {};

        // Make sure local player is fully initialized
        waitUntil { !isNil { player } && { !isNull player } };

        // Whether spectator systems are already initialized
        private _bIsInitialized    = ["IsInitialized"] call SPEC;

        // Whether given unit is also local player
        private _isPlayer = _spectator == player;

        // Make sure that:
        // * Spectator was not initialized already
        // * We only execute spectator for local player if controlling unit
        if (!_bIsInitialized && _isPlayer) then

little eagle Dec 10, 2016, 11:30 PM

#

you don't add to containers with addMagazine directly

#

but same thing

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:30 PM

#

ohhhhhh

little eagle Dec 10, 2016, 11:30 PM

#

!isNil { player }

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:30 PM

#

good find @tough abyss

little eagle Dec 10, 2016, 11:30 PM

#

this does nothing

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:30 PM

#

_isPlayer should be false in this case

meager granite Dec 10, 2016, 11:31 PM

#

Basically I want to add lots of magazines into three different containers (uniform, vest, backpack) without using addMagazineCargoGlobal to avoid BE getting lots of addmagazinecargo log messages (and possible mags/second kick)

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:31 PM

#

since the AI is not a player

#

but remote controlled by a player

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 11:31 PM

#

When in doubt check. As I said assume nothing when it comes to programming

meager granite Dec 10, 2016, 11:31 PM

#

And order of addition is important so I can't use addMagazine

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 11:31 PM

#

It will often wind you up in hot-water.

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:32 PM

#

what's odd about the comment for that code is that...

little eagle Dec 10, 2016, 11:32 PM

#

I don't see the problem, Sa-Matra

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:32 PM

#

// Make sure that:
// * Spectator was not initialized already
// * We only execute spectator for local player if controlling unit
if (!_bIsInitialized && _isPlayer) then
{

#

"local player if controlling unit"

meager granite Dec 10, 2016, 11:32 PM

#

So I was thinking if I can add magazines locally with addMagazineCargo and make sure that if player drops their uniform moments later everyone will see magazines in it

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:32 PM

#

the local player is controlling the unit

little eagle Dec 10, 2016, 11:32 PM

#

as long as you use the commands on the machine of the unit, it will be synched correctly

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 11:32 PM

#

#define SPEC { _this call (missionNamespace getVariable ["BIS_fnc_EGSpectator", {}]) }

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:32 PM

#

but they use isPlayer to do the check

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 11:32 PM

#

Thats the macro declaration that points to _bisInitialized

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:32 PM

#

isPlayer doesn't check if the remote controlled unit is controlled by a player

meager granite Dec 10, 2016, 11:32 PM

#

Actually could answer this through simple test

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 11:33 PM

#

private _bIsInitialized = ["IsInitialized"] call SPEC;

meager granite Dec 10, 2016, 11:33 PM

#

Noone is around to test with me though

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:33 PM

#

welp

#

I guess I could modify the EG spectator system to change this one condition

#

I mean fix this condition

meager granite Dec 10, 2016, 11:34 PM

#

Actually there are dedicated addItemTo* commands, maybe I can use these

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:34 PM

#

thanks @tough abyss

#

gonna try modifying a copy of the script

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 11:35 PM

#

np.

#

Trying to recreate ArmA Tactics in ArmA 3?

#

😛

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:35 PM

#

nah

#

think of it like a turn based counter strike

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 11:36 PM

#

Would be interesting to implement ArmA Tactics into ArmA 3

wispy cosmos Dec 10, 2016, 11:36 PM

#

Is ArmA Tactics anything like XCOM?

tough abyss Dec 10, 2016, 11:41 PM

#

I haven't had much experience with it.

#

I played it a bit.

#

The free lite version.

#

Controls are kind as esoteric as arma 3's

#

Particularly for newbies

wispy cosmos Dec 11, 2016, 12:29 AM

#

Is there a way to remove the "Release UAV Controls" action when using the remoteControl command?

tough abyss Dec 11, 2016, 12:31 AM

#

Hi banana split comrades!

wispy cosmos Dec 11, 2016, 12:34 AM

#

hey

tough abyss Dec 11, 2016, 12:34 AM

#

_nul = NPC1 remoteExec [ "RemoveAllActions", 0, true ];

#

pass the AI you want into the removeAllActions

#

That will execute all of them.

#

The 2017 mod map will be released?

tough abyss Dec 11, 2016, 1:41 AM

#

where can I hire a scripter to help me with my arma 3 servers

#

Will you pay per scripts, per month?

#

(sorry if i get the "hire" word wrong)

#

I was hoping to hire them onto my community as a scripter most likely paid every month or bi-weekly depending on the arrangement we come to.

#

but it would not be a lot of money sadly i do have a job but i only make so much

#

@tough abyss your community have a site or something on the internet so i can know more about? I'm not interested in a job but i'm a scripter and i'm interested in join a community.

#

I work in BRPVP, our Discord is https://discord.gg/DHfFPYW

#

at the moment it's still poorly setup but it's http://unitednationsspacealliance.net

#

Thankyou for the link.

#

and we do have a teamspeak

rancid ruin Dec 11, 2016, 2:54 AM

#

@little eagle ok my code is shit, but the real question is, is MouseButtonClick EH functioning as it should do?

wispy cosmos Dec 11, 2016, 4:54 AM

#

I don't know why, but DrawIcon3D is not showing anything when I'm viewing through another camera such as Tactics_Client_SpectatorCamera = "camconstruct" camCreate (position Tactics_Core_ArenaVolume); Tactics_Client_SpectatorCamera cameraEffect ["INTERNAL", "BACK"]; switchCamera Tactics_Client_SpectatorCamera;

#

the draw script addMissionEventHandler ["Draw3D", { if(!isNull Tactics_Client_SpectatorCamera) then { { _player = _x getVariable ["Tactics_Player", objNull]; _position = getPosWorld _x; if(side _x == west) then { drawIcon3D ["", [0.10, 0.34, 0.50, 1], _position, 0, 0, 0, name _player, 1]; } else { drawIcon3D ["", [0.38, 0.49, 0.11, 1], _position, 0, 0, 0, name _player, 1]; }; } foreach (call Tactics_Core_GetPlayersInArena); }; }];

#

I did confirm that the drawing did work in a normal view of the unit (with the condition removed of course from the above code)

#

but the idea is that I want a freecam that shows the names of the players on screen

#

I can also confirm that the draw3d event handler is firing every frame while in camera by doing addMissionEventHandler ["Draw3D", { player globalChat str(diag_ticktime) }];

#

and seeing that the ticks are being printed to the chat

wispy cosmos Dec 11, 2016, 7:58 AM

#

@tough abyss how so?

thick lintel Dec 11, 2016, 8:16 AM

#

@wispy cosmos "I don't know why, but DrawIcon3D is not showing anything when I'm viewing through another camera such as " Remove the switchCamera line, cameraEffect already swaps the camera for you. Then you need to enable the HUD for Draw3D to be visible. Slightly modified so i could test from the debugConsole... ```Tactics_Core_ArenaVolume = player;
Tactics_Client_SpectatorCamera = "camconstruct" camCreate (position Tactics_Core_ArenaVolume);
Tactics_Client_SpectatorCamera cameraEffect ["INTERNAL", "BACK"];

cameraEffectEnableHUD true;
showHUD [true, false, false, false, false, false, false, true];

addMissionEventHandler ["Draw3D",
{
if(!isNull Tactics_Client_SpectatorCamera) then
{
{
_player = _x getVariable ["Tactics_Player", player];
_position = getPosWorld _x;
if(side _x == west) then
{
drawIcon3D ["", [0.10, 0.34, 0.50, 1], _position, 0, 0, 0, name _player, 1];
}
else
{
drawIcon3D ["", [0.38, 0.49, 0.11, 1], _position, 0, 0, 0, name _player, 1];
};
} foreach [ player ];
};
}];```

wispy cosmos Dec 11, 2016, 8:17 AM

#

Awesome @thick lintel! I'll give this a try!

#

@tough abyss I've ended up just embracing the "Release UAV Controls" action as a feature for my turn based game mode. I check if the camera position is closer to the remote controlled unit, or the player. If it's closer to the player, I assume that the player has released control, and so I end his turn.

wispy cosmos Dec 11, 2016, 8:34 AM

#

@thick lintel That did the trick! Thanks a ton!!

thick lintel Dec 11, 2016, 9:13 AM

#

@wispy cosmos Your other problem from further back

{
    ["Initialize", [selectRandom (call Tactics_Core_GetPlayersInArena), [], true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true]] call BIS_fnc_EGSpectator;
}];```
I presume Tactics_Core_GetPlayersInArena returns players remote controlled units?
I notice in the previous code i posted you have
```_x getVariable ["Tactics_Player", objNull];```
Is this not a reference to the actual player? could you not use this to pass to BIs EGSpectator to get around the _isPlayer and then swap the current spectated target to the actual controlled unit.
```_unit addEventHandler ["Killed",
{
    params[ "_killed" ];
    
    ["Initialize", [ _killed getVariable [ "Tactics_Player", objNull ] , [], true, true, true, true, true, true, true, true]] call BIS_fnc_EGSpectator;
    _nul = [ selectRandom (call Tactics_Core_GetPlayersInArena) ] spawn {
        waitUntil { !isNull ( uiNamespace getVariable [ "RscDisplayEGSpectator", displayNull ] ) };
        [ _this ] call BIS_fnc_EGSpectatorCameraPrepareTarget; //BIS_fnc_EGSpectatorCameraSetTarget
    };
}];```I presume this is the effect your going for, controlled unit dies, player whom controlled ends up spectating another players controlled unit?

little eagle Dec 11, 2016, 9:40 AM

#

Is my X working as it should do?

#

Why don't you try it? What's the point of asking here if only the game (reality) can judge

jade abyss Dec 11, 2016, 9:48 AM

#

I guess, they want/expect a pat on the shoulder...

rancid ruin Dec 11, 2016, 9:50 AM

#

is that aimed at me? cos I of course did try it before posting, and as far as I can tell the EH is not functioning as it is supposed to

little eagle Dec 11, 2016, 10:04 AM

#

at everyone really

#

and as far as I can tell the EH is not functioning as it is supposed to
then why not ask: "Why does this do nothing?" After checking the RPT for errors of course

jade abyss Dec 11, 2016, 10:30 AM

#

Or just use Diag_log everywhere. Starting from "the part where it gets attached"

rancid ruin Dec 11, 2016, 11:34 AM

#

it doesn't do nothing, it fires, but not as expected

#

my own logic & the wiki would expect MouseButtonClick to fire after mouse down + mouse up on the ctrl

#

but it really fires after mouse down

little eagle Dec 11, 2016, 1:09 PM

#

Yeah. diag_log and systemChat. debug it yourself and see where it goes haywire

jade abyss Dec 11, 2016, 1:12 PM

#

You don't wanna know, how often i added a diag_log after every codeline just to find the source of evil

little eagle Dec 11, 2016, 1:14 PM

#

TRACE_X macro ❤

little eagle Dec 11, 2016, 2:25 PM

#

the only difference between ASL and World is the models offset

#

so to convert you need a model

#

can do some math on the z component of getposASL and getPosWOrld on that object

wispy cosmos Dec 11, 2016, 4:54 PM

#

@thick lintel I decided to abandon using BI's spectator system and just went with a freecam mode with player name's overlayed on-screen.

#

@thick lintel Thanks for helping

halcyon crypt Dec 11, 2016, 5:02 PM

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when the RPT is reporting an error in expression without a filename, is it safe to assume that it's originating from a spawn {} and/or FSM?

little eagle Dec 11, 2016, 6:25 PM

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no

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it means that it's probably from a config file

halcyon crypt Dec 11, 2016, 6:50 PM

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hmm well in my case it did originate from a FSM

wispy cosmos Dec 11, 2016, 7:14 PM

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@tough abyss "https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/inGameUISetEventHandler
if expression returns true action is blocked"

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this looks promising, thanks for sharing!

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That did the trick @tough abyss!! Thanks again!

rotund cypress Dec 11, 2016, 7:27 PM

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Is there any directory for default arma 3 sounds name?

halcyon crypt Dec 11, 2016, 10:20 PM

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is there a list of all displays (ids) available in A3?

rancid ruin Dec 11, 2016, 10:55 PM

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gotta dig through the config and pull your hair out afaik

meager granite Dec 12, 2016, 12:15 AM

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defineResincl.inc in ui_f.pbo

tough abyss Dec 12, 2016, 12:21 AM

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A question

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Can you use INC in missions?

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or will arma 3 complain?

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myRscInc.inc ?

meager granite Dec 12, 2016, 12:36 AM

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#include "\A3\ui_f\hpp\defineResincl.inc"

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Let me check if it works

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Yes it works

meager granite Dec 12, 2016, 1:29 AM

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Anyone remember config location of maximum unit load?

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The number is 1000, I'd like to know where it is defined though

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CfgInventoryGlobalVariable >> maxSoldierLoad

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And I instantly found it right after I asked the question

wispy cosmos Dec 12, 2016, 3:14 AM

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gg

opaque topaz Dec 12, 2016, 5:45 AM

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I'm having issues retrieving a variable in a location object using getVariable. I have created a location but can't use getVariable on the location object. Any ideas?

jade abyss Dec 12, 2016, 5:50 AM

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_Obj setVariable["VarName","Data",(if MP:) TRUE]; <- ?

opaque topaz Dec 12, 2016, 5:53 AM

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I'm not in MP environment though

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I shouldn't even need to worry about MP right now as I'm in the editor. Also when in MP environment, the script will be be ran on the server so no need to broadcast the variable to clients.

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Keep in mind though the effects of createLocation are local

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I think I might have figured it out give me one sec

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with locations and getvariable you can't do this _loc getVariable ["bool", false];

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it has to be this syntax _loc getVariable "bool"

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It actually says so on wiki when looking at the syntax section https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/getVariable

meager granite Dec 12, 2016, 6:08 AM

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yeah there is no <location> getVariable <array>

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Also locations are local by definition

split coral Dec 12, 2016, 7:44 AM

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btw, does the active channel determine who sees the ping?

little eagle Dec 12, 2016, 11:54 AM

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@opaque topaz This is a known and stupid limitation. Work around is this:
[_location getVariable _varName] param [0, _default];

rotund cypress Dec 12, 2016, 1:41 PM

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Is there any list of current default ArmA 3 sounds?

little eagle Dec 12, 2016, 2:05 PM

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ingame confg viewer

gilded rover Dec 12, 2016, 3:02 PM

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Could anyone explain to me why my custom .RVMAT (s) for the default AAF uniform doesnt want to load and instead the uniform ends with only the base texture and no normal map as well as specular map??????

young current Dec 12, 2016, 3:16 PM

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where are you loading them from? paths right? error in rvmat?

chrome nebula Dec 12, 2016, 3:30 PM

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Currently getting this error in my modpack when I try to launch it. I have a feeling it's causing my server to loop. any idea?

"15:20:18 [XEH]: Usage of deprecated Extended Event Handler "fired". Use "firedBIS" instead. Path: @OZZYLIFE\bin\config.bin\Extended_Fired_EventHandlers\All."
Also, I can't find "bin" anywhere.

gilded rover Dec 12, 2016, 3:36 PM

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Loading from my mod , just chaged the normal map in the rvmat coding to the new normal map i made , but as far as i know paths are correct , and the game does not give me any error with the RVMAT so i dont know

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that said my camouflage faces give a pop up error saying rvmats are errors yet they work

frozen obsidian Dec 12, 2016, 4:23 PM

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guys i want to check how snow storm script will look on my map is there a way to enable it from editor ?

little eagle Dec 12, 2016, 4:28 PM

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@chrome nebula Is OZZYLIFE your mod?

chrome nebula Dec 12, 2016, 6:14 PM

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No, it's from a Youtube video.

opaque topaz Dec 12, 2016, 6:16 PM

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@little eagle I had to look really closely at the wiki and figured out the limitation. Although, didn't think of your solution to get the same effect. Thx

chrome nebula Dec 12, 2016, 6:17 PM

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@little eagle no it's from a Youtube Video...

little eagle Dec 12, 2016, 6:18 PM

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?

chrome nebula Dec 12, 2016, 6:18 PM

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OZZYLIFE

little eagle Dec 12, 2016, 6:18 PM

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You're not the author?

chrome nebula Dec 12, 2016, 6:18 PM

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Nope

little eagle Dec 12, 2016, 6:18 PM

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Then don't worry about it

chrome nebula Dec 12, 2016, 6:18 PM

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What's up?

little eagle Dec 12, 2016, 6:19 PM

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about this:

Currently getting this error in my modpack when I try to launch it. I have a feeling it's causing my server to loop. any idea? 

"15:20:18 [XEH]: Usage of deprecated Extended Event Handler "fired". Use "firedBIS" instead. Path: @OZZYLIFE\bin\config.bin\Extended_Fired_EventHandlers\All."
Also, I can't find "bin" anywhere.

opaque topaz Dec 12, 2016, 6:27 PM

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What text editor and plugins do you guys use for editing anything Arma related?

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I use atom with language-arma-atom plugin. I also use atom for web development

little eagle Dec 12, 2016, 6:29 PM

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Sublime Text 3 with https://github.com/JonBons/Sublime-SQF-Language

GitHub

JonBons/Sublime-SQF-Language

Sublime-SQF-Language - Sublime Text 2 highlighter for Bohemia Interactive's SQF Language.

opaque topaz Dec 12, 2016, 6:31 PM

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I've never used Sublime. I always hear about it so maybe I will give it a chance and finally give in to it.

little eagle Dec 12, 2016, 6:36 PM

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I usually just stick with the first thing that work for me. There is nothing special about ST as far as I can tell. It just works for me.

opaque topaz Dec 12, 2016, 8:14 PM

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Ok well maybe I will just stick with Atom because it works for me 🙂

buoyant heath Dec 12, 2016, 8:18 PM

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If only atom could handle large RPTs

opaque topaz Dec 12, 2016, 8:23 PM

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Yeah I had that problem last night lol. RPT was 16K lines long and opened up in Atom and it crashed it lol

bitter magnet Dec 12, 2016, 8:28 PM

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I'd love to find good open source text editor, but there is (unfortunately) no substitute for EditPadPro.

buoyant heath Dec 12, 2016, 8:31 PM

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I keep notepad++ around for those RPTs

split coral Dec 12, 2016, 8:32 PM

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Poseidon. And notepad++ for opening +500,000 line config/script dumps.

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It doesn't even flinch when you open those

earnest coral Dec 12, 2016, 10:14 PM

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Hey everyone, im looking for at file called "h.sqf", anyone knows how to locate this file

dusk sage Dec 12, 2016, 10:30 PM

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😮

rotund cypress Dec 12, 2016, 10:53 PM

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thanks @little eagle

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@opaque topaz Atom with ACEs' syntax highlighting, file-header, file-icons and some other little handy plugins

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The file-icons plugin is really handy for seeing different icons for the different languages

opaque topaz Dec 12, 2016, 11:23 PM

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@buoyant heath yeah I'm thinking of just reinstalling notepad++ for the huge RPT files. It was amazing to me until I found Atom. Since then, Atom has been my go to for everything.

weary turret Dec 13, 2016, 1:23 AM

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got a question: I should be using remoteExec instead of using BIS function because it's way faster processing correct? example of use old way [[0],"btc_fnc_show_hint"] spawn BIS_fnc_MP;

weary turret Dec 13, 2016, 2:04 AM

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Thanks for answering Quiksilver

opaque topaz Dec 13, 2016, 2:59 AM

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['"string" remoteExec ["hint",player];',[],100] call BIS_fnc_codePerformance; //Result ~0.1ms
['["string","hint",player ] call BIS_fnc_MP;',[],100] call BIS_fnc_codePerformance; //Result ~0.6ms```
 - VariatoX https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/remoteExec

weary turret Dec 13, 2016, 4:00 AM

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so something like [] remoteExec["btc_fnc_showhint",0];

wary musk Dec 13, 2016, 7:07 AM

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Hello Guys. Will someone be able to assist me with a script for an auto save function in altis life?

cerulean whale Dec 13, 2016, 7:26 AM

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Just take the saving script and run it in a 10 minute loop?

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while {true} do { sleep 600; [] call autoSaveScriptName; }; ??

tough abyss Dec 13, 2016, 7:29 AM

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So many times I see while {true} do {} it is evil and should be avoided

cerulean whale Dec 13, 2016, 7:35 AM

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I know, but if he wants something basic xD

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Someone I know did it with a lightbar script and it destroyed my performance

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xD

wary musk Dec 13, 2016, 7:40 AM

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will that cause my server to crash

cerulean whale Dec 13, 2016, 7:40 AM

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no

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because of the sleep statement

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while {true} do { _handle = [] call autoSaveFunctionName; waitUntil {scriptDone _handle; }; sleep 600; };

wary musk Dec 13, 2016, 7:41 AM

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cool cool tnx i will try it. prob is i know nothing of scripting. i am more the hardware type of person

cerulean whale Dec 13, 2016, 7:42 AM

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There is definitely better ways to do it but that will work just fine

wary musk Dec 13, 2016, 7:42 AM

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the easy way is fine for now till i get a better understanding of scripting

thick lintel Dec 13, 2016, 7:44 AM

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while {true} do { _handle = [] call autoSaveFunctionName; waitUntil {scriptDone _handle; }; sleep 600; }; That will never work as call does not return a scriptHandle.

cerulean whale Dec 13, 2016, 7:53 AM

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@thick lintel Explains why it works 😃

tough abyss Dec 13, 2016, 7:53 AM

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only spawn'd and execvm'd functions

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return a script handle

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Beware this is the scheduled environment so the possibility of the function executing in a timely manner is dependent on the current scheduler load.

cerulean whale Dec 13, 2016, 7:54 AM

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Correction lol... I meant to put spawn. 😃

tough abyss Dec 13, 2016, 7:54 AM

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Is it originated from scheduled or unscheduled?

cerulean whale Dec 13, 2016, 7:54 AM

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scheduled

tough abyss Dec 13, 2016, 7:55 AM

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Whats it not doing?

cerulean whale Dec 13, 2016, 7:55 AM

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It's not related to this anyway. I just had that system working in a script I used awhile ago

tough abyss Dec 13, 2016, 7:55 AM

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{true} is okay... but I still find it dirty and have to wash myself everytime I use it.

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Got the entire script source?

meager granite Dec 13, 2016, 7:56 AM

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What if there is thread handle returned by autoSaveFunctionName? Kappa

cerulean whale Dec 13, 2016, 7:56 AM

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xD I remember when I first came into ArmA and saw everyone using {true} it kinda made no sense to me at the time 😛

tough abyss Dec 13, 2016, 7:57 AM

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I've replaced many while {true} do stuff with EVH's

cerulean whale Dec 13, 2016, 7:57 AM

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the other thing that killed me was constant loops without waitUntil statements in modside scripts.... that pissed me off many times

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They can just trash the performance of their players because they can't script anything

tough abyss Dec 13, 2016, 7:58 AM

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Half the time I don't know why the engine doesn't have enough sense, to suspend if something isn't in sync with another...

thick lintel Dec 13, 2016, 7:58 AM

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@meager granite "What if there is thread handle returned by autoSaveFunctionName? " I think we both know that was not the point of the example 😋

tough abyss Dec 13, 2016, 7:58 AM

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Instead waitUntil feels like I am writing another scheduler within a scheduler.

cerulean whale Dec 13, 2016, 7:58 AM

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😛

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@tough abyss Yeah but it can be very useful in the context of siren scripts

tough abyss Dec 13, 2016, 7:59 AM

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I know some code takes faster or slower and waitUntil's ensure you don't end up with mismatched data.

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Which is down right screwy in itself.

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@tough abyssLogic

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Maybe I should just write a scheduler script.

cerulean whale Dec 13, 2016, 7:59 AM

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http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=arma logic

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^^ Pretty accurate description

tough abyss Dec 13, 2016, 8:00 AM

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Call it use the code inside a [] spawn { };

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and using waitUntil {scriptDone _thisScript};

cerulean whale Dec 13, 2016, 8:01 AM

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😃 Anyway, I need to head off and have a shower. 😛

tough abyss Dec 13, 2016, 8:01 AM

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It would work wouldn't it @meager granite ?

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params [["_code",{}],["_delayTime",0]];
    _localHandle = [_delayTime] spawn  {
    _code
    sleep _delaytime;
};
waitUntil {scriptDone _localHandle};

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Then I've only got a temporary scheduled piece of code

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that when finished will close.

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and it can be called 😄

meager granite Dec 13, 2016, 8:06 AM

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Did you mean spawn _code instead?

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What's the point of this anyway?

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It wouldn't work, no

tough abyss Dec 13, 2016, 8:06 AM

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Eh I'll fingure it out.

meager granite Dec 13, 2016, 8:07 AM

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call _code;
sleep _delaytime;

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params before all that

tough abyss Dec 13, 2016, 8:08 AM

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And spawn it?

meager granite Dec 13, 2016, 8:08 AM

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Why do you even need spawn here?

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why create another thread if rest of original one does nothing but waits for new one to end

tough abyss Dec 13, 2016, 8:09 AM

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Not sure I am for-ever typing {waitUntil} crap

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I just thought wrapping into a function might make it less painful

meager granite Dec 13, 2016, 8:10 AM

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What's your goal again? You need to execute something and wait some time?

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Why even wrap it, its like 2 lines of script

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Unless you need to wait until your wrapper is done somewhere else

tough abyss Dec 13, 2016, 8:11 AM

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The idea is to be able to suspend code universally.

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It's an idea.

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It might look useless but hey? Who cares?

meager granite Dec 13, 2016, 8:12 AM

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Code above makes no sense, I have no idea what you're trying to achieve

tough abyss Dec 13, 2016, 8:12 AM

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Some of the stupidest of ideas can sometimes be useful.

meager granite Dec 13, 2016, 8:13 AM

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If you can give me somewhat close to real world example I can help you

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_handle = 0 spawn {
    call myFunction;
    sleep 5;
};
waitUntil {scriptDone _handle;};
// Something else here

is identical functionality-wise to

_handle = 0 spawn myFunction;
waitUntil {scriptDone _handle;};
sleep 5;
// Something else here

and

call myFunction;
sleep 5;
// Something else here

tough abyss Dec 13, 2016, 8:15 AM

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I want to call the function and put the sleep inside with the waitUntil

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So if I pass say 0 as the delay time

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It will just evaluate the waitUntil only

meager granite Dec 13, 2016, 8:16 AM

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Why not just call your function and then do sleep, it will be the same thing

tough abyss Dec 13, 2016, 8:17 AM

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By the way @meager granite Do you even maintain KoTH anymore?

meager granite Dec 13, 2016, 8:18 AM

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Yes

tough abyss Dec 13, 2016, 8:19 AM

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You can't use call MyFunction then sleep after it

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If it originates from unscheduled

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?

meager granite Dec 13, 2016, 8:19 AM

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Your waitUntil assumes it is scheduled

tough abyss Dec 13, 2016, 8:19 AM

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I avoid the scheduled environment. For example this code.

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params [
    ["_object",objNull],
    ["_state",false]
];
missionNameSpace setVariable ["towerDestroyed",false,true];
diag_log format ["_object: %1",_object];
_HandlerID = _object addEventHandler ["killed",{ 
    diag_log "EH Fired";
    missionNameSpace setVariable ["towerDestroyed",true,true];
    diag_log format ["towerDestroyed: %1",towerDestroyed];
    _handle = [] spawn {
            //Mission needs to end when the groups count threshold is less than or equal to the east countside
            waitUntil {towerDestroyed && (east countSide (enemiesInfs)) <= PARAMS_EnemyGroupLeftThreshold};                
            private _MarkersClean = AOMarker_IDs call MM_fnc_deleteMissionMarkers;
            enemiesInfs call QS_fnc_AOdelete;
            enemiesVehs call QS_fnc_AOdelete;
            "Main Mission complete, give us 60 seconds and we will start the next" remoteExec ["hint",0,false];
            };

}];

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EH driven mission flow.

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I didn't need the entire function to have all spawn'

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Used it only where needed.

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Keeps the speed of unscheduled and only switching to scheduled if necessary.

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This is crude rudimentary code.

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It's been chopped and changed a lot.

meager granite Dec 13, 2016, 8:22 AM

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You can't waitUntil in unscheduled script environment

tough abyss Dec 13, 2016, 8:23 AM

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if it becomes spawn'd it does.

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The code works.

meager granite Dec 13, 2016, 8:23 AM

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spawn creates separate scheduled thread

tough abyss Dec 13, 2016, 8:23 AM

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yes

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Trust me that code above

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Is atleast 10x faster than the old method.

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EH is removed after used

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New one created for next objective.

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Got rid of triggers too

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With that method.

meager granite Dec 13, 2016, 8:28 AM

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There is no difference between creating a thread from scheduled or non-scheduled script environment

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My point was that your original code piece already in scheduled, its pointless to create another thread and have original thread wait like in your example

tough abyss Dec 13, 2016, 8:48 AM

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I thought when a thread was created "VM thread" it switches an unscheduled piece of code

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to scheduled

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as a result able to sleep or use waitUntil inside it?

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@meager granite

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Or is that not the case?

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http://pmc.editing.wiki/doku.php?id=arma2:scripting:code_optimization ?

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And this is the most detailed piece of information I've found on the scheduler

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https://resources.bisimulations.com/wiki/Script_Interruption

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So in thoery creating a function called

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with a waitUntil should halt at that piece of code correct?

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if it contains a [] spawn {} ?

meager granite Dec 13, 2016, 9:03 AM

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Any spawn or execVM creates scheduled thread, no matter where you call it

thin pine Dec 13, 2016, 9:07 AM

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^ no exceptions to that rule afaik

tough abyss Dec 13, 2016, 9:08 AM

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Yeah I know that, but I avoid going to scheduled unless I need to.

thick lintel Dec 13, 2016, 9:16 AM

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I thought when a thread was created "VM thread" it switches an unscheduled piece of code to scheduled
Yes it is the case but I think @meager granite is talking about this

_localHandle = [_delayTime] spawn  { //This is unnecessary thread. Why spawn when vv
    _code
    sleep _delaytime;
};
waitUntil {scriptDone _localHandle}; //<< Must already be scheduled scope to be able to do this```

Whats the point of spawning a thread when you are already in scheduled as you have waitUntil so you must be.
Might aswell be
```params [["_code",{}],["_delayTime",0]];
call _code
sleep _delayTime```

if you want to be extra vigilant about the the scope then
```params [["_code",{}],["_delayTime",0]];
if !( canSuspend ) exitWith {
    _nul = _this spawn ( missionNamespace getVariable _fnc_scriptName ) //<<Only works if defined by functions library else replace with function name.
};
call _code
sleep _delayTime```

tough abyss Dec 13, 2016, 9:19 AM

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Yeah most of my code is functions library

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It's apart of a framework.

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I need to create a tiny GUI on the ledt hand side that displays server FPS and client FPS

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left*

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Didn't notice stutters so far.

#

I can generalise that objective code even more.

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And make it accept any objective variable state.

rigid plover Dec 13, 2016, 9:35 AM

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Anyone know how to use UnitCapture / Play?

tough abyss Dec 13, 2016, 9:35 AM

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params [
    ["_object",objNull],
    ["_variableName",""],
    ["_state",false],
    ["_isPublic",false]
];
missionNameSpace setVariable [format ["%1",_variableName],_state,_isPublic];
diag_log format ["_object: %1",_object];
_HandlerID = _object addEventHandler ["killed",{ 
    diag_log "EH Fired";
    missionNameSpace setVariable [format ["%1",_variableName],_state,_isPublic];
    _handle = [] spawn {
            "Main Mission complete, give us 60 seconds and we will start the next" remoteExec ["hint",0,false];
            };

}];

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Super-generalised function

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Now I can be blowing objectives up to my hearts content.

thin pine Dec 13, 2016, 9:37 AM

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Friend of mine did this too - why format ["%1",_variableName] if _variableName is already a string? If you do it for security purposes, you can make sure _variableName is of type string in params

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I guess it depends on how you expect to be calling this function, aye?

tough abyss Dec 13, 2016, 9:39 AM

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It's for a community

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That does Ops

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Not a life server.

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Even so this code executed SS anyway.

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I use format over str

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because str is slower @thin pine

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I can plugin any kind of blow up objective into that code above. now.

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😄

thick lintel Dec 13, 2016, 9:44 AM

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Except all the variables are out of scope (undefined) within the EH

tough abyss Dec 13, 2016, 9:52 AM

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Noticed...

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:/

halcyon crypt Dec 13, 2016, 10:07 AM

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@tough abyss I think you misunderstood @thin pine, he meant that _variableName is supposedly already of type string so the format is redundant

thin pine Dec 13, 2016, 10:07 AM

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that is what I meant yeah but I'm now under the assumption he's feeding non-stringed variable names to his function so I get it - although..

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you know what I'm done trying to think about this xD whatever works for him

halcyon crypt Dec 13, 2016, 10:11 AM

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lol 😛

tough abyss Dec 13, 2016, 10:12 AM

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🤦

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Thanks guys.

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A local var declared at the beginning of a script

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and the local var used inside of an EH?

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The scope of the local variables value inside of the EH will not carry into the EH correct? so I'd have to make a TempGlobal variable

thick lintel Dec 13, 2016, 10:14 AM

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Correct

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Or format the variables into the EH

tough abyss Dec 13, 2016, 10:14 AM

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How would I format them into the EH?

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Put Params inside the EH?

thick lintel Dec 13, 2016, 10:15 AM

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    ["_object",objNull],
    ["_variableName","", [""] ],
    ["_state",false],
    ["_isPublic",false]
];

missionNamespace setVariable [ _variableName, _state, _isPublic ];

diag_log format [ "_object: %1", _object ];

_HandlerID = _object addEventHandler [ "killed", format[ "
    diag_log 'EH Fired';
    missionNamespace setVariable [ %1, %2, %3 ];
    'Main Mission complete, give us 60 seconds and we will start the next' remoteExec ['hint',0,false];
", str _variableName, !_state, _public ]];```

tough abyss Dec 13, 2016, 10:15 AM

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Oh...

#

That syntax.

tough abyss Dec 13, 2016, 11:23 AM

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@thick lintel Do you know where the soldier FSM's are located?

thick lintel Dec 13, 2016, 11:25 AM

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What the danger and formation FSMs? \a3\characters_f\scripts

tough abyss Dec 13, 2016, 11:25 AM

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Wow....

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This is what controls the AI???

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Their brains?

thick lintel Dec 13, 2016, 11:28 AM

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No, most of it is engine side I believe and their just external resources.

tough abyss Dec 13, 2016, 11:29 AM

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Why is the grouping not handled by the engine???

#

This is shocking...

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and not shocking at the same time...

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All the AI grouping potatoism is being handled by SQF / FSM scripts.....

#

😢

#

I have seen the darkside now I cannot unsee it.

#

has died a little inside now

thick lintel Dec 13, 2016, 12:25 PM

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I think only civilian AI use external behavior fsm Their config value is definately set for this. All soldier units are set to "FORMATION" rather than an fsm, not sure what this denotes unless its a flag for the engine to use an internal system.

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Ah its probably a link to CfgFSMs class

rotund cypress Dec 13, 2016, 1:30 PM

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@tough abyss Is there really any good EVH's for an auto save script really? I mean, there is eachFrame and that is basically the same.

thick lintel Dec 13, 2016, 1:32 PM

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Depends what your saving, players gear - InventoryClosed, Take, Put, SEH arsenalClosed for example.

rotund cypress Dec 13, 2016, 1:34 PM

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Oh yeah course

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But I don't really see a problem in an while loop with a 10 minute sleep timer

winged thistle Dec 13, 2016, 1:39 PM

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^

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Was just gonna say the same thing

thick lintel Dec 13, 2016, 1:39 PM

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No not particularly a problem, just keep in mind when building a mission frame work of how many of these little scheduled loops you have started and not to fill up the scheduler with lots of them I suppose.

winged thistle Dec 13, 2016, 1:40 PM

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As long as you don't have 100 loops running simultaneously throughout the mission, you should be fine. Explicitly defining the behavior you want is a lot better than relying on an event handler as you leave less room for error or accidental execution.

rotund cypress Dec 13, 2016, 1:41 PM

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^^

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I mean

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Especially for saving

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You want it to ALWAYS save

winged thistle Dec 13, 2016, 1:41 PM

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Pretty much. Better to be explicit there.

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Side question: does anyone still code Arma missions anymore?

rotund cypress Dec 13, 2016, 1:42 PM

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Yes

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Why wouldnt people be?

winged thistle Dec 13, 2016, 1:43 PM

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I was 99% joking.

rotund cypress Dec 13, 2016, 1:43 PM

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Well I get a lot of people saying that

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And that ArmA is dead

winged thistle Dec 13, 2016, 1:43 PM

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Nah

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A game is only as dead as its community

rotund cypress Dec 13, 2016, 1:43 PM

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Which is complete bullshit

winged thistle Dec 13, 2016, 1:43 PM

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There's clearly an active community here.

rotund cypress Dec 13, 2016, 1:43 PM

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Yes

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Exactly

thick lintel Dec 13, 2016, 1:44 PM

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For gear it depends where your saving. Saving to profileNamespace can be a little rough. I personnaly always find it better to handle it only when needed e,g leaving inventory screen or closing an arsenal etc, rather than have it happen at any time.

winged thistle Dec 13, 2016, 1:44 PM

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My discord won't stfu 😛

rotund cypress Dec 13, 2016, 1:44 PM

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And all those other 1000+ communities

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I was more thinking of DB saving @left helm

winged thistle Dec 13, 2016, 1:44 PM

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My mission has one more item in this current sprint. After that, we're moving to saving loadouts, scores, etc. to database 😄

thick lintel Dec 13, 2016, 1:45 PM

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What like mission objects and positional stuff?

winged thistle Dec 13, 2016, 1:45 PM

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While loops are just fine as long as they are used appropriately and sparingly.

rotund cypress Dec 13, 2016, 1:45 PM

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Exactly

thick lintel Dec 13, 2016, 1:46 PM

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I agree

rotund cypress Dec 13, 2016, 1:46 PM

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I mean

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In the first place

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Theyre there for a reason

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Then of course if you're a complete moron while using them

winged thistle Dec 13, 2016, 1:46 PM

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My module wouldn't work without one

rotund cypress Dec 13, 2016, 1:46 PM

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Like not sleeping or somth

winged thistle Dec 13, 2016, 1:46 PM

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I'd hate to calculate differences in serverTime just to get a heartbeat

rotund cypress Dec 13, 2016, 1:47 PM

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Lol 😄

winged thistle Dec 13, 2016, 1:49 PM

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I'm sure at one point someone put a while loop in a while loop with a remote exec to a while loop.

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From then on, while loops were shunned.

rotund cypress Dec 13, 2016, 1:49 PM

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🤣

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per-frame handlers?

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eachFrame?

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so would _evh = addMissionEventHandler ["EachFrame",{hint "sup"; sleep 3; };]; work?

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But then

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Im rofl here

thick lintel Dec 13, 2016, 1:51 PM

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Armaology

winged thistle Dec 13, 2016, 1:52 PM

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lol

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"can't suspend in eachframe expression"

rotund cypress Dec 13, 2016, 1:52 PM

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so a while {true} do {sleep 3; hint "ye";}; is worse than an eachframe?

winged thistle Dec 13, 2016, 1:52 PM

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Why? Because they've never heard of a flag?

rotund cypress Dec 13, 2016, 1:52 PM

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Then eachFrame would run all the time

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Which will make lag even worse 🤣

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So then you would have to use while loop anyways if you wanna suspend

winged thistle Dec 13, 2016, 1:53 PM

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just have a flag surrounding the loop contents

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if (flagIsTrue) {...}

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won't execute if your global flag is false

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skip contents until you flag it to turn back on

rotund cypress Dec 13, 2016, 1:53 PM

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You mean variable?

winged thistle Dec 13, 2016, 1:54 PM

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It's a flag

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If someone isn't waving it, it's not ok to execute

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Wave that flag, then it's ok

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😛

rotund cypress Dec 13, 2016, 1:54 PM

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Oh lol 😄

winged thistle Dec 13, 2016, 1:55 PM

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So you aren't really suspending the loop so much as the execution of the contents

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Yeah

rotund cypress Dec 13, 2016, 1:55 PM

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So 🤣

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Dank

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Memes

winged thistle Dec 13, 2016, 1:55 PM

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You could add an event handler that listens for that variable to change

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reduce overhead

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I think I really only use onEachFrame for my HUD shit

rotund cypress Dec 13, 2016, 1:56 PM

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Cant you just use Draw3d eventhandler?

winged thistle Dec 13, 2016, 1:56 PM

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Exactly. Outside of that, there's a better way.

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I'd say, "cuz noobs" but that's probably just me being ignorant.

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I didn't even play Arma a couple years ago. Picked it up for a project, learned it by trying to redo someone else's mission for Arma 2 for a guy. Flopped. Moved to Arma 3. Made another small mission. Flopped. And now Benargee and I are working on our big mission.

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Hopefully third time's the charm 😛

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So I'm sure I'm still an Arma noob, but I've seen so much garbage coding in Arma missions.

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Lots of copy/paste

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I know there are great programmers in the community, and I appreciate all of them, even if they are @queen cargo

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😛

rancid ruin Dec 13, 2016, 2:00 PM

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wasn't he banned

winged thistle Dec 13, 2016, 2:00 PM

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Erm...

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Forever?

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He appears to be here.

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He's helped me a couple of times in the past, as well as a few others.

rancid ruin Dec 13, 2016, 2:01 PM

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well shiver me timbers

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i'd only ever seen him in the trolls group

winged thistle Dec 13, 2016, 2:02 PM

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There's a difference between a troll and an asshole 😛

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Because it just does it vs checking to see if it should do it

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Oh man, wtf was I doing earlier?

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Wait no, I was right.

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If you use the flag in the evaluation itself, you can break the loop after the variable changes to false for the first time

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You need the loop the keep checking it if you're trying to evaluate a value on the fly throughout the missiono

queen cargo Dec 13, 2016, 2:04 PM

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@rancid ruin no i was not

winged thistle Dec 13, 2016, 2:04 PM

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😛

queen cargo Dec 13, 2016, 2:09 PM

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you mean "a wild X39 appears" @tough abyss 😋

winged thistle Dec 13, 2016, 2:10 PM

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So good

rancid ruin Dec 13, 2016, 2:19 PM

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oh, i thought dwarden said he banned you for a bit

little eagle Dec 13, 2016, 2:35 PM

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Quiksilver you're full of shit

tame portal Dec 13, 2016, 2:37 PM

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@little eagle Whats going on what did I miss

rotund cypress Dec 13, 2016, 3:11 PM

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If i want to loop a sound, but not stop the script from continuing how can I do that?

winged thistle Dec 13, 2016, 3:12 PM

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There are event handlers for sounds

rotund cypress Dec 13, 2016, 3:12 PM

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What kind?

winged thistle Dec 13, 2016, 3:12 PM

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You'd have to look. I don't recall off the top of my head, I just know they exist.

rotund cypress Dec 13, 2016, 3:13 PM

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I dont see any eventhandler for that

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But if I put a while true with a sleep timer of 3 seconds

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before an for loop

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It stops the script?

winged thistle Dec 13, 2016, 3:16 PM

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Hold on

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Let me get into solar orbit and I'll come help you

rotund cypress Dec 13, 2016, 3:17 PM

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Thanks 😄

winged thistle Dec 13, 2016, 3:27 PM

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Alright, orbit achieved

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What exactly are you trying to do?

rotund cypress Dec 13, 2016, 3:28 PM

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right now I have a for loop

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In the script

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Which has a sleep of 0.27

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When i add a sound

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Its all f-ed up

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SO I want to add a while loop

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with a 3 second sleep

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But it will just hold on on that while loop and not do the for if im not mistaken?

winged thistle Dec 13, 2016, 3:30 PM

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Just spawn the sound instead of playing it directly?

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Will allow the loop to continue and still plays your sound

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Yeah?

rotund cypress Dec 13, 2016, 3:42 PM

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This actually is already doing [ _curTarget, "alarmcar" ] remoteExec [ "FROG_fnc_playSound", 0 ];

torn jungle Dec 13, 2016, 4:23 PM

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Im looking to make an object move from one place to another and then back and then again. constantly. i want to use it as obstacles that would push players off the track. in a race. What command would i use for this?

winged thistle Dec 13, 2016, 4:32 PM

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Oh man, I was afk for a bit there

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@rotund cypress is that what you wanted it to do?

rotund cypress Dec 13, 2016, 4:33 PM

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I dont see what you mean

winged thistle Dec 13, 2016, 4:33 PM

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@torn jungle you'd want to make a loop to move that object's position

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So, you have a for loop, right?

rotund cypress Dec 13, 2016, 4:34 PM

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Yes

winged thistle Dec 13, 2016, 4:34 PM

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K, so

for {{_i=0}, {_i<10}, {_i=_i+1}} do {
    if (flagIsTrue) then {
        _curTarget spawn { params[_curTarget]; [ _curTarget, "alarmcar" ] remoteExec [ "FROG_fnc_playSound", 0 ]; };
    };
};

meager granite Dec 13, 2016, 4:34 PM

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@torn jungle Pushing will be a biggest issue here because you'll have to manually move players through script

winged thistle Dec 13, 2016, 4:38 PM

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Something like that, I think

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So your loop iterates

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then if the flag is true, also spawns a function that plays the sound

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You can alter the spawn section to include a while loop.

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Not recommended, but you can do it

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@meager granite you don't like redrawing collision each frame?

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😛

rotund cypress Dec 13, 2016, 4:39 PM

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Ah ok thanks

dusk sage Dec 13, 2016, 4:40 PM

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That loop is going to run through pretty quick

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Is that intended?

winged thistle Dec 13, 2016, 4:40 PM

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I'm demoing syntax

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Not for use in production

dusk sage Dec 13, 2016, 4:40 PM

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Also, that syntax of for is not preferable to for "_i" from 0 to 10 do {

winged thistle Dec 13, 2016, 4:40 PM

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I literally copy pasted from the wiki because I was lazy

dusk sage Dec 13, 2016, 4:40 PM

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😉

winged thistle Dec 13, 2016, 4:40 PM

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So go fix the wiki 😛

dusk sage Dec 13, 2016, 4:40 PM

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Wiki states it fine

winged thistle Dec 13, 2016, 4:41 PM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Control_Structures

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I was just trying to show how to use a flag in a loop for selective execution

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flag, aka boolean

dusk sage Dec 13, 2016, 4:42 PM

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Don't comment on the perf, sigh

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Code_Optimisation#for_.5B.5D_vs_for_.22_i.22

winged thistle Dec 13, 2016, 4:43 PM

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Yeah, it was brought up earlier that checking a condition for a while loop is slower than just iterating through a for loop

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Which makes sense when you think about it

dusk sage Dec 13, 2016, 4:43 PM

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Usually in relation to an infinite loop

winged thistle Dec 13, 2016, 4:44 PM

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I love getting drunk and coming on here to pretend I know how to code with you guys 😄

wispy cosmos Dec 13, 2016, 6:45 PM

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It's annoying to see people who don't know what they're talking about, push false information on to others like it's fact.

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I just read all that PFEH, while loops, etc @tough abyss

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It all comes down to what you need to do. Essentially one's best judgement.

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There's nothing wrong with using a while loop. It's just a control structure. It's going to give you the results the fastest (since it executes as fast as your CPU allows, and isn't tied to your framerate IIRC).

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Sometimes you may want that, sometimes you won't.

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It's also a matter of programming style.

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There are too many factors for one to state as fact that one way is better than the other.

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{
    while {true} do
    {
        waitUntil { count (call Tactics_Core_GetSWAT) > 0 &&  count (call Tactics_Core_GetTerrorists) > 0 };
        call Tactics_Server_Init;
        while {!(call Tactics_Core_IsGameOver)} do
        {
            call Tactics_Server_UpdateTurn;
            for[{Tactics_Core_CurrentTurnTime = Tactics_Core_TurnDuration}, {Tactics_Core_CurrentTurnTime >= 0}, {Tactics_Core_CurrentTurnTime = Tactics_Core_CurrentTurnTime - 1}] do
            {
                publicVariable "Tactics_Core_CurrentTurnTime";
                uiSleep 1;
            };
        };
        Tactics_Core_IsServerReady = false;
        publicVariable "Tactics_Core_IsServerReady";
        sleep Tactics_Core_EndRoundCooldownDuration;
    };
};```

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Above is a game loop for a mission I'm working on.

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It's just spawned in a schedule environment.

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No big deal.

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It's a small mission and hardly a hit on performance in the big picture.

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There comes a point where you as a programmer have to strike a balance between practice and practicality.

wispy patio Dec 13, 2016, 7:12 PM

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Anyone here have a clue as to how I could spawn in the RHS paradrop waypoint?

dusk sage Dec 13, 2016, 7:22 PM

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@wispy cosmos You just said you don't like people pushing false information, then made a statement as if it were a fact

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There's nothing wrong with using a while loop. It's just a control structure. It's going to give you the results the fastest (since it executes as fast as your CPU allows, and isn't tied to your framerate IIRC).

carmine galleon Dec 13, 2016, 7:32 PM

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Hey guys

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Using RscXListBox, when trying to get curent selection with lbCurSel (1210) it returns -1, any idea ?

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Nervermind, fixed

wispy cosmos Dec 13, 2016, 7:40 PM

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@dusk sage Please correct me if I'm wrong then.

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@dusk sage Do note the "IIRC"

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It is in fact a control structure though.

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IIRC it executes independent of framerate

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I guess depending on circumstances of course.

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Just because it's a while loop doesn't mean it's going to magically kill performance....

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In attempt to correct what I said, it's going to alter the flow of execution in whatever environment it's running in.

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If you have a while loop in a spawn, it's going to change the flow of execution in that thread.

dusk sage Dec 13, 2016, 7:44 PM

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You said It's going to give you the results the fastest, then your IIRC was in relation to the reasoning, at least it seemed to be

wispy cosmos Dec 13, 2016, 7:45 PM

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Yea, that's not exactly accurate.

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My apologies.

dusk sage Dec 13, 2016, 7:45 PM

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Just seemed like a contradiction

thick lintel Dec 13, 2016, 7:45 PM

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@wispy patio Anyone here have a clue as to how I could spawn in the RHS paradrop waypoint? Dont know because I have not looked at it but im presumming it is a scripted WP in which case you would need to spawn a waypoint as normal, set its type as scripted and then use setWaypointScript to point to the script. You will need to look in the configViewer at the RHS waypoint definition see what it says it is.

dusk sage Dec 13, 2016, 7:46 PM

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But, as the wiki will tell you, for loops are much faster than while loops

wispy cosmos Dec 13, 2016, 7:46 PM

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If you have a bunch of "spawns" cluttering up the scheduled environment, the rate of execution in those spawns are going to degrade.

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Correct?

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How is a for loop faster than a while loop though?

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The cost of a for loop is greater than a while loop in theory.

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A while loop checks a condition to continue to the next iteration

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a for loop manages an LCV, an iteration condition, and the iteration

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but of course, you can manage that yourself in a while loop.

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It's all about cost.

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And the complexity of your algorithms.

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@dusk sage

dusk sage Dec 13, 2016, 7:52 PM

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but of course, you can manage that yourself in a while loop.
You could, but it wouldn't be internal

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You need to consider the fact the for loop is entirely internal

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Refer to: https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Code_Optimisation#Loops

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Obviously that isn't strictly true though

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But the idea is there

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(I hope)

wispy cosmos Dec 13, 2016, 8:03 PM

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Ah

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That makes sense

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Thanks @dusk sage

halcyon crypt Dec 13, 2016, 8:31 PM

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wouldn't worry about it too much, "readability" before (potential) optimization IMO

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while is for doing stuff while something is true and for is for iterating

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no need to make things less "readable" for a 0.00001ms (obviously don't know the number.. ^^) improvement

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or intuitive rather

wispy cosmos Dec 13, 2016, 8:46 PM

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^