arma3_scripting

[bold rivet]

nvm found it. Thanks

[dire star]

how do i make squad invincible this script isnt working {_x allowDamage true;} forEach units group dog_company_grp;

[winter rose]

try false to disallow damage?

[dire star]

mb i said it wrong, i wanted to make them be able to take damage again. I figured out it's working like this {_x allowDamage true;} forEach units dog_company_grp;

[dire star]

Nvm so if i run this script via debug it works but if it's ran via script it says undefined variable

Any fixes?

[austere granite]

Does anyone know a way in which I can just skip team selection when previewing a mission in MP (From editor).

[winter rose]

where is dog_company_grp defined, by which machine is the script run?

[dire star]

dog_company_grp is player group so it's already spawned in editor

and script is ran

{_x allowDamage true;} forEach units dog_comapny_grp;
};```

[winter rose]

comapny or company?

seems like a script typo too

[dire star]

think its working now i didnt know i had to remove this ; from allowDamage true

[winter rose]

you don't need to

[dire star]

idk when i had that it gave me error now when i've remove it, it seems to work

[winter rose]

try adding it again, it should not matter ^^ anyway, good thing it's solved 🙂

[blissful current]

As a backup solution, yes, because my mission will break unless the helicopter lands close to the coordinates I have selected.

Ideally, I would like to try for a better solution, though. Would it be possible to monitor those coordinates for objects that could impede landing and then shift the landing a couple of meters away? Then rinse and repeat this as it is landing to make sure there are no new obstructions.

Or how about this idea, a check to see if the landing spot is blocked, then a warning to tell players to move? Then check again and reinitiate the landing. Though I like this less because it might be unrealistic, since IRL the pilot would just land a few meters away.

[hallow mortar]

Probably setVelocityTransformation and an eachFrame mission event handler

If they're physics objects you can use standard setVelocity and addForce for true physics crushing, but you may have to apply them more than once over time if you want to keep a constant speed

About it being multiplayer, you want to make sure that the objects are being managed by one machine only - if every client is trying to do it at the same time, it could cause problems. Usually the server is the machine of choice for this sort of thing. remoteExec, isServer, and the "server only" checkbox in the trigger's settings are potentially useful tools for this.

[errant jasper]

He wants to allowDamage false eventually. Don't allowDamage require local argument? Wouldn't the proper way be to "remote" exec for each member where they are local at the time you want it to happen? (For this particular scenario, I guess a "safe" way would just be to remoteExec globally).

Locality can change dynamically, like say AI leader is killed and player takes over, isn't locality of AI transferred to player machine?

[crimson lion]

Feel like I'm going crazy. I have a script that creates a group based on the detected side of a given class:
private _reinfGroup = createGroup _factionSide;

Literally anywhere later in this function when I call _reinfgroup, like for this line:
_enemySpawned = _reinfGroup createUnit [(selectRandom enemyInfantry),_reinfSpawn,[],0,"CAN_COLLIDE"];

I get an error undefined variable in expression: _reinfgroup

_reinfGroup is created at the start of this function so its not a scope issue, why the fuck

When debugging, if I do this, _reinfgrp is correctly defined:

private _factionSide = [east, west, independent, civilian] select _sideIndex;
private _reinfGroup = createGroup _factionSide;

Nevermind for now, seems like my function is not correctly receiving the faction class I've been trying to pass it fuck

[smoky crane]

@still forum Just some feedback on the new "Promises" on dev branch:

Would be really useful if continueWith could accept an "args" parameter, that would be passed to the code as _thisArgs. For example:

[_handle, [1, 2, 3]] continueWith {
  diag_log _this;
  diag_log _thisArgs; 
}

[pallid palm]

@blissful current hay friend me i have something for you:

[winter rose]

a virus

[thin fox]

🏳️‍🌈

[pure hare]

In setVariable when should i set the public field to true? If i set it to false, does that mean during getVariable, the client will still receive the updated version?

[thin fox]

afaik, you should put it true when you want the clients to receive the information as well

if not, it remains local only to the machine that executed

[pure hare]

Ah okay. I should mention, in my case it is part of the missionNamespace, so i assume a getVariable request would be directed to the server, who has the updated version stored?

[thin fox]

it doesn't matter what space you use, it's local to the machine that executed it

if you want send the information to the clients as well, you should put it true in the public parameter

[tough abyss]

Hi there. I got some help coming up with "talking" NPCs. We are really happy with the results, and understand there are limitations to Arma's code. Here we simply have a "hidden" disabled custom channel, and a painfully simple sqf. Is there by any tiny chance, a way to disable the part that shows my screenname sending the message to myself? If possible, I want only the white part of the text in the chat stream in the photo to be visible.

We could use systemchat channel, but we don't want the drab grey text. If there is a way to change the color on that, I believe that would work as well, but my gut tells me that is hardwired.

Haha, last message before a response. If it would be possible to change the displayed name in the red text that would work as well. Not picky about the method, just the result.

[thin fox]

what commands are you using it?

[tough abyss]

This with a simple addAction and execVM in the NPC. We have local and server triggered notifications, so our hint stream is busy enough. We also have color coded text channels, and the stream there can be busy. I will make the sleep much higher, so things are not as chaotic. We just want this channel to stand out as much as possible, to make it easier to read and focus. Some of these NPCs give important tutorial info. Any ideas or workarounds welcome.

[pure hare]

[unit1, "Hello!"] remoteExec ["globalChat", thePlayersMachineNetworkID]``` works perhaps? You need to query the unit and player id in advance though.

From my understanding, since the remote execution is limited to the player client, it should not appear in anyone else's global chat.

[tough abyss]

Yes, it only plays player side, which is exactly what we need. The issue is my screenname "RatherBoringGamer" displayed before the NPC's name "Endyou321." We want to eliminate the player's screenname display to itself, if possible. Or have the player screenname changes somehow to the NPC's. To make it seem a bit more natural that the character is talking to the player.

[pure hare]

The player's name is taken, because you let the player send the message to custom chat. You need to have "endyou321" send the message though.

[tough abyss]

I thought this would be the issue. Can a unit with disabled sim be made to send a message to the chat stream?

[pure hare]

hmm, i assume in this case "_unit" in the code above refers to endyou321 in this example?

so you can try _unit customChat ...?

[tough abyss]

I think that may work! Thanks, I would have never thought of that. I will test it with this simple one first.

[pure hare]

And if that doesnt work, look at my remoteExec example above. "unit1" is the one sending the message and "thisPlayersMachineNetworkID" the id of the receving player

I recommend reading https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/remoteExec

[tough abyss]

Wow, thanks! A ton of great info. I need to learn more about queries for some other ideas we had. I will try the first recommendation, and if needed will move to this.

[errant iron]

tested it on unit with disabled simulation and had no issue, you'll just need to make sure that AI unit is added to the radio channel and that you change their identity's name to Endyou321, which arma will substitute in for %UNIT_NAME in your channel callsign: ```sqf
// Unit's init field:
your_custom_channel radioChannelAdd [this];

// Action:
_unit customChat [6, "Hello world!"];```

in this case, remoteExec shouldn't be necessary since the action already runs local to the client that activated it

[pure hare]

Hey, i want to check the existence of a mod, but i'm a little lost at finding the correct name.
So here's an example from ACE

if (isClass(configFile >> "CfgPatches" >> "ACE_Medical")) then {...```
Now i tried with DUI squad radar
```sqf
if (isClass(configFile >> "CfgPatches" >> "DUI - Squad Radar - Radar")) then {...```
but nothing happens, so i probably search for the wrong thing. What exactly is the name that goes there? Where can i find this exact naming for a given addon? I just went with the Addon name appearing in the CBA Addon menu, but that seems to be wrong.

[errant iron]

afaik mod authors can name their patches anything they want, so reading config.cpp is the most reliable way to know exactly what it is

[tough abyss]

Thanks! I will get to this soon.

[pure hare]

So is it whatever the preprocessor macro puts to "name"?

[errant iron]

uhh not that one, the class itself

whatever CBA generates for ADDON would be the class name you check for

[pure hare]

OH, so the "ADDON" macro

alright ty!

Related to debugging this, do you know if there is a way to speed up reloading missions in a server? I always recompile mission -> restart server -> restart client, but it takes so long. Especially for small naming issues like this lol

[errant iron]

sidenote, did confirm the class is named diwako_dui_main exactly as the pbo itself is named, thanks cba conventions :)

[errant iron]

oh god, for a windows server it would lock the mission file so i used to have two .pbo copies and then switched between them with #mission command to reload it without a restart, and after a few runs my client would also start disconnecting after downloading the mission file (maybe it didn't want to overwrite MPMissionsCache?), so i set up symlinks to my MPMissions directory to avoid client restart as well

[pure hare]

Oh, i have to remember this! Sadly co10 autogenerates 1000+ missions using an executable, so i probably have to manually find and rename the mission. Still faster xD

[pure hare]

So, in my case this?

I was stuck in preprocessor hell, tried to find the definition of ADDON, but it was 10 includes and addon itself was defined of other components with a custom preprocessor function

[errant iron]

i believe for CBA with hemtt, it's simply the prefix in project.toml* + the name of the addon directory with an underscore: ```toml

project.toml

prefix = "diwako_dui"``` so for addons/main/, the final ADDON would be diwako_dui + _ + main = diwako_dui_main
-# *did some more research and now as far as i understand it, CBA's ADDON macro actually only depends on script_mod.hpp => PREFIX and script_component.hpp => COMPONENT, meaning hemtt's config doesn't affect it at all >.>

[pure hare]

Ah okay, also i assume it doesn't care about capital letters? Since "ACE_Medical" should probably be "ace_medical". I use ACE - No Medical, so i can't say for sure, but there everything else is lowercase.

[errant iron]

yeah either should work, their canonical patch names are lowercase but config lookups are case insensitive anyway

[pure hare]

Aye, thanks a lot!

[pure hare]

Omg, it works! Finally I can have unconscious color tracking inside DUI

[blissful current]

I there a list of these somewhere? "Man", "Tank", "Car". I need to add static weapon emplacements and whatever else but idk what they are called in game.

private _objectsNearby = ExtractHelipad nearEntities [["Man", "Tank", "Car"], _clearRadius];

[split ruin]

ok, this gets interesting ... location placed on the map is actually object not location ... is this normal ?

[cosmic lichen]

They are base classes .
Look up the class of the static vehicle in cfgVehicles.

[thin fox]

try "StaticWeapon"

[cosmic lichen]

It should have parent class Static or turret

[jade acorn]

I have an idea, making it real is a problem - how can I register a sequence of pressed buttons to execute code? Something like the built-in cheats work

[tough abyss]

I am trying to implement something a member helped with above. I am new to this, so I needed some clarification.

In this photo example, would "_unit" = the variable entered in the unit in the editor? and would "your_custom_channel" be the _channelID?

[thin fox]

maybe using this https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/User_Interface_Event_Handlers#onKeyDown and try to get pressed keys under some array that checks for some pre-maded pattern... or just make a CT_EDIT and a button and should do it, like those cheat box from simcity games

[keen stream]

No. Edit in SP. Or use the funky script KK made?

[jade acorn]

yes

you can just look up the commands on wiki to see what is supposed to be placed in those spots
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/radioChannelAdd
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/customChat

[jade acorn]

I would like not to use GUIs

[tough abyss]

Thank you! I wasn't even close, but see where my errors were. I am terrible finding the correct terms on the wiki, so many thanks 🍻

[thin fox]

but you can add that UEH to display 46 and try to work with it, no? can't remember

[earnest valve]

lol

[pallid palm]

@blissful current @winter rose No it's not a virus: it's a Demo mission of my chopper command

@winter rose i think you know enough by now: that i'm a good guy

[winter rose]

https://tenor.com/view/sus-among-us-suspi-gif-25732650

[pallid palm]

lol

your funny Lou: love you my brother

yeah see i made this Awsome chopper cammand: that Dart helped me with: he's Awsome btw: and its works Awsome: i was thinking i would share it:

[thin fox]

he already got it working

[pallid palm]

ok thx man

working is one thing: but working perfectly is another 🙂

[tough abyss]

I am nearly finished with our talking NPC "mini framework" thanks to help here the last several days. The only problem left to resolve is the displayed unit name. It is displaying "Liosi" when I have changed the identity to the desired "Endyou321." Is there a script to force a name change, or have I overlooked something? Thanks for the help, so close to the finish line.

[fair drum]

what is your custom chat channel?

[tough abyss]

the channelID is 6, if that is what you mean?

[fair drum]

no, how are you defining it, specifically want to see the callSign parameter

[tough abyss]

Oh, ok. Just a couple minutes, when I get back to my office I will send what I have for that channel in the initServer.

I used the template from the Bohemia wiki. I believe the only two things I changed were the channel display name and color.

[fair drum]

does it function (the right name) when previewing in SP and failing in MP?

[tough abyss]

I have only tested on MP so far.

[fair drum]

test on SP real quick

if it does work in SP, but not MP, create a custom identity in Description.ext and use setIdentity. Or you can see if setName (idk if the note about it working in SP only is outdated or not) works. Both of these are local commands so you either need to run them via remoteExec, or in a global script spot such as the objects init.

during the mission, what does name return when run on the unit in debug menu

[tough abyss]

It works in SP but not MP, the person who helped earlier just did super quick a quick test to get me going. I will look at both setIdentity and setName right now.

[tough abyss]

A simple setName in the init and it is working perfectly!
I have serious memory issues, but I think there were about 6 of you who each pitched a piece to this puzzle! We will put it to good use, with triggers and other simple scripts, we plan to make a complex web of unique NPCs, like the old Pokemon or Zelda characters that always kept a player reading their rambling monologues, lol.
Grab some digital beers as a thanks: 🍻 🍻 🍻

[fair drum]

we need to work on your script though. just from that screenshot, it looks messy

[tough abyss]

I am always open to improvements. Are you referencing the channel script, the unit SQF, the unit init, or a combo?

[fair drum]

see how many repeat lines you have in the channel script? try to reduce those. see what you come up with

[tough abyss]

Thanks for the second look, and pointing me in the right direction! I will start working on that tomorrow.

[broken pivot]

Hey people 😄

Im into scripting an chair interaction. My current problems belongs to following:

• If sitting, players cant move their heads
• If sitting, players can only stand up with a scuffed solution you can find it at the end of the post

My final result will need to be capable to return an value during the player is sitting
so I could switch via "condition" of UserAction between "TakeSeat" - "StandUp"

Those are my current sources: https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Category:Command_Group:_Animations
Maybe you know some more I could read about

Scuffed "solution" I would like to improve

if ((((animationState player) == "hubsittingchairuc_idle1") 
    || ((animationState player) == "hubsittingchairuc_idle2") 
    || ((animationState player) == "hubsittingchairuc_idle3"))
    ) then {
    hint "Sits!";
    } else {
    hint "Stands!";
    };

[broken pivot]

Update:

Ive implemented my askworthy solution in the script like Ive shown to you on
the screenshot. Does anyone sees or knows a better solution where people could maybe move there heads etc?

[thin fox]

just use ace :v

[old owl]

-# And VScode

[pallid palm]

oh hell yeah: i made this script: that has like 5 diff functions in it: that runs like a (M99 M-Code in Machining) its cool 🙂

its like the function's leap frog to the one that's needed when its called or spawned

no looping and no waiting 🙂

i guess being a Machinist for 25 years had some good things to it: it helps me with Arma 3 Woohoo 🙂

woowa this is cool 🙂

#include <iostream>
// Represents a CNC operation that can be called repeatedly.
void performCuttingOperation() {
    std::cout << "Performing a cutting operation..." << std::endl;
    // In a real CNC controller, this would send commands
    // to the hardware to move the tool.
};
int main() {
    std::cout << "Starting main program..." << std::endl;
    // The equivalent of M90 G00 X10 Y10
    std::cout << "Rapid move to start point X10 Y10" << std::endl;
    // The equivalent of M98 P1000
    performCuttingOperation(); // Call the function (subprogram)
    std::cout << "Continuing main program after subprogram returns." << std::endl;
    // The equivalent of M30
    std::cout << "Ending main program." << std::endl;
    return 0;
};

[pallid palm]

Just interesting facts that all friends

[broken pivot]

Plot twist: I dont want to

[thin fox]

why that doesn't surprise me

[fair drum]

you shouldn't use the ambient animation function for this.

first, see if you animation even supports head movement. just run it on yourself through debug. if it does, then have the unit change to that animation, then set direction, then set position.

[hallow mortar]

If it's for sitting, you'll also want to attachTo the unit to the chair, otherwise it'll be pushed out of it by collision

[broken pivot]

Should I learn about to create own animations or what would you recommend me?

[broken pivot]

Thats why Ive used the BIS_fnc. I gues its arriving with an attachTo.
But Ive also used my own later for better offset.

[pure hare]

Hey, anyone here using VSCode can tell me which linter is more updated or preferred? There's SQFLint and SQF-VM Language Server. Also some people recommend HEMTT Language Server & Utils but i haven't quite figured yet how to integrate it and if it contains linting.

[cosmic lichen]

https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=blackfisch.sqf-language + https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=BrettMayson.hemtt is what I use

[errant jasper]

Real OGs remember Squint

[winter rose]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Category:Community_Tools#Code_Editing 😉 Squint is listed

[pure hare]

how do you make the hemtt extension work? It says "Activated by onLanguage:arma-config event", but idk how to trigger this. I need it on sqf files

ah nvm, that means it's already activated

it doesnt do any linting though...

[tulip ridge]

It definitely does

[pure hare]

really strange xD

do you perhaps need a whole hemtt project? Is the VSCode Plugin alone sufficient?

[tulip ridge]

Not sure, I've only used hemtt in recent times because I never looked back after learning about it
I wouldn't imagine it'd require a project to use hemtt for the basic lintings

Are you using hemtt's sqf language? It has one included

[pure hare]

wait, i can disable SQF Language (only other i still have loaded)

still no linting. Also the plugin has no settings for me

Same for you?

[tulip ridge]

Because it doesn't have any

[thin fox]

same for me

[pure hare]

I also checked the logs of HEMTT & HEMTT Language Server, everything seems fine and initlialized

only thing that could remotely look like a problem is this line
2025-09-26T19:22:15.089609Z DEBUG tower_lsp::service::pending: client asked to cancel request 1, but no such pending request exists, ignoring

[tulip ridge]

Could ask in the hemtt channel in the ace discord

[pure hare]

Good idea, ty!

[blissful current]

I ditched hemtt extension because the keybind for open last rpt did nothing. But perhaps I need to revisit it. Let us know if you get it working. Been using this one for rpt lately. https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=bux578.vscode-openlastrpt

[tulip ridge]

It definitely does work

It opens it as a proper log file for vs code, so you can have it open and update live

[blissful current]

It doesn't open anything for me. Is there more to getting it to work other than installing the extension?

Both of your code color choice is different than mine as well. Is there a reason for choosing those other than personal preference?

Just reinstalled hemtt. ctrl+alt+r does nothing for me.

[pure hare]

idk really, my colors were from "SQF Language" addon, but disabled it looks different yet again

[tulip ridge]

It's dependent on your theme

[tender fossil]

The shortcut doesn't work for me either. But pressing Ctrl + Shift + P and typing e.g. "RPT" works

Speaking of which, anyone who actually uses my CfgFunctions (and CfgRemoteExec) generator extension in VS Code? I'd love to have some feedback about it. It was really buggy in the beginning as it was my first time both writing TypeScript and utilizing VS Code API, but after numerous bug fixes and feature additions I think it's somewhat decent now. (Or is it?)

[tardy osprey]

Hello gamers, i've made a mission where the players start in a truck and get transported to the HQ, but upon spawning they dont seem to stay seated but rather get drumped on the ground taking a lot of damage. any ideas?

[formal grail]

Ran into an odd issue with vanilla SDB bombs. When spawned from directly above a Strider GMG and targeted with scripts, it would hit the top of the vehicle, destroy the main gun, and do minor damage to the car's main health pool. Thought I was going crazy. The other missiles/bombs don't do that. It seems like a unique issue with the SDB, but only with certain flight paths. And it's not just the Strider, it's the same issue with Varsuks etc. There doesn't appear to be any submunitions. Does anyone know if maybe I'm missing something, or is the munition really just configured this way?
Video shows me spawning 4 of them directly onto a strider. Script is:

player allowDamage false;
_fnc = {
  params ["_height"];
  private _sdb = createVehicle ["ammo_Bomb_SDB", [0, 0, 1000], [], 0, "CAN_COLLIDE"];
  private _bombsite = getPosATL cursorObject;
  _bombsite set [2, _height];
  _sdb setPosATL _bombsite;
  _sdb setVectorDirAndUp [[0, 0, -1], [0, -1, 0]];
  _sdb enableSimulation false;
  sleep 5;
  _sdb enableSimulation true;
};
50 spawn _fnc;
40 spawn _fnc;
30 spawn _fnc;
20 spawn _fnc;

(Also does not appear to be related to speed. I can setVelocityModelSpace to [0, 100, 0] which is about the max the munition can go and it does the same thing.)

[neon plaza]

I have been trying to make players spawn In the air using the respawn module with no luck. Does anyone happen to have a script a solution to this problem?

[thin fox]

use the expression field of the module

[neon plaza]

I have attempted to do this. I had no luck.

[thin fox]

show us what you did

[neon plaza]

The line of code has been placed In the expression area. My Issue now Is that It does not update as the marker moves.

[thin fox]

what code

what marker

[neon plaza]

Sorry I had posted In a different chat

[neon plaza]

// Define the respawn position (adjust marker name as needed)
private _spawnMarker = "respawn_west";
private _spawnPos = getMarkerPos _spawnMarker;

// Create a new position at a high altitude
private _spawnAltitude = 200;
private _parachutePos = [_spawnPos select 0, _spawnPos select 1, _spawnAltitude];

// Teleport the player unit to the parachute position
player setPos _parachutePos;

// Give the player a parachute
player addBackpack "B_Parachute";

To be honest If there Is someone I can pay to get this down It would save me a whole hella time.

[thin fox]

smells like chatgpt, where are you calling this?

[neon plaza]

Took this from online.

You are right. It Ia AI

[thin fox]

don't use AI for arma scripting 👍

that's why we have a whole wiki for that

you have to provide us all the information on how are you doing this so that we can help you

[neon plaza]

That line of code Is AI generated It seems. There Is no other Info to provide other then what type of script I need and the person I can pay to make It.

Not sure what else to say here.

The only thing I had was the AI script. I just need the respawn module synced to players as a spawn point to have players spawn In the air 300 meter high with a parachute.

The marker has to update every 10 seconds or so.

If this Is something someone here can code I am willing to compensate them.

[thin fox]

if no one helps you with that, I can help you when I get home

[neon plaza]

Sounds good. Please be sure to contact us P.M

[mellow scroll]

Question - while I've been writing scripts for years - I only started with mods. It seems everything in a mod is geared towards functions - even a onetime init script - is this correct - or should one-shot functions really be scripts so they don't stay running forever? Or am I missing something?

[tulip ridge]

If a bit of code only ever runs once, then there's not really a point to use a function, you can just use call compileScript [..]; with the path to the file. CBA and ACE-esque mods do this for stuff like settings and keybinds

If something is run more than once, you should compile it to a function to save Arma having to read and process the file multiple times

[mellow scroll]

thanks - that was kind of what I thought - appreciate the confirmation - I have some stuff to change... 😉

[hallow mortar]

If you already have functions then there's no point going to the trouble of changing them back

Being functions also makes them easier to reference, and it also makes them visible in the Functions Viewer so you can see how they work

It's also the only way to do mission-init scripts in a mod, because mission event scripts like init.sqf aren't available for mods. CfgFunctions init / preinit / postinit attributes are the only way to do that for a mod.

[tulip ridge]

CBA's pre/postInit event handlers as well, with the benefit of running unscheduled

[hallow mortar]

I wonder how those event handlers manage to run on pre/postinit

[hallow mortar]

or should one-shot functions really be scripts so they don't stay running forever?
I just want to address this directly: being a function does not mean that a script will keep running forever. Any function will exit when it reaches its end and will not continue to run unless executed again. The only thing that keeps running forever is a while {true} loop. There's no downside to having your scripts be functions, unless you register like a million of them and clog up the compilation process during mission loading.

[proven pond]

Anyone knows which script I need for make In-game cutscenes for public Zeus? Instead of just using circle around module of EZM which is boring.

[mellow scroll]

Appreciate all the insight !

[blissful current]

I have this condition, which fires if all alive players are in a helicopter:

((allPlayers select {alive _x}) - crew ExtractHeli) isEqualTo []

Is there a way to filter out downed players though? I want it to fire even if there is downed player outside the heli (apparently they count as alive)

[granite sky]

Depends how your revive script works, but usually they use setUnconscious so you can use lifeState _unit == "UNCONSCIOUS" at least.

[blissful current]

I think this is vanilla. It is in my SOG mission but I do not have their custom revive module installed.

[granite sky]

This one? Probably uses setUnconscious:
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Revive

I've never scripted with it.

[blissful current]

Those screenshots look like my editor so Ima say yes this is what I'm using.

[blissful current]

I'll start testing with this one first. Does this look OK?

((allPlayers select { alive _x && lifeState _x == ["HEALTHY"] }) - crew ExtractHeli) isEqualTo []

[thin fox]

remove the [ ] in the "healthy" part

lifeState returns a string

[blissful current]

Copy that. I will test now.

[granite sky]

HEALTHY might not work because INJURED exists.

you want lifeState _x != "INCAPACITATED" in combination with the alive check.

either that or lifeState _x in ["HEALTHY", "INJURED"] without the alive check.

[blissful current]

I was just thinking that. I would accidentally block injured players.

I'll try this one:

((allPlayers select { alive _x && lifeState _x != "INCAPACITATED" }) - crew ExtractHeli) isEqualTo []

[blissful current]

This is working great. Thanks ya'll!

[pallid palm]

hello all: if i get into a vehicle as driver e'm i now a (vehicle player) or how does that work

[versed trail]

vehicle is just a scripting command to figure out what vehicle a unit is in. You can then detect the vehicle by doing vehicle player or check if the player is in a vehicle at all by doing (vehicle player == player). The player object itself doesnt change at all

[pallid palm]

ok i see thx man

@versed trail that's cool really thx man

[cedar kindle]

i don't think i've ever created a mission in the MP Editor

[tough abyss]

I had to do some reading before I got things going here, so I deleted my post and came back. I think I am ready to jump into something:

I want to make a virtual market place for players to post items for buy or barter. I have virtual shops, and know how to make UI/dialogs for such. Is this below where I would need to start? Or should I head into the "Namespace" variables? I know this task will be complex, so start broad please!

I do not know how to store the items in the database, while the player has them listed, and then have them sent to the correct player after transaction. I don't know much DB side stuff.

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Scripted_Database

[tender fossil]

Do you want the market place contents to be persistent between mission/server restarts? If you need them only during a single session, a database is not mandatory

[tough abyss]

Our server is pretty much always open, and all data and stats are persistent. So it would have to be good after outages, and even simple restarts.

[tender fossil]

You can make a scripted database then, it just needs to be saved either via extension to an actual database or the server's profileNamespace mentioned in the article. HashMaps can be useful too here.

IIRC serialization of a scripted DB entries to JSON drops the size of the DB a lot and equally improves performance in general. In other words, when you're saving stuff to database, serialize it as JSON (toJSON command) and when you load stuff from DB, do the opposite operation (fromJSON)

[tough abyss]

Ok, I am sorta getting there. the JSON is good to know, our DB has housing, vehicles, etc, and our economy has hundreds of items, so keeping things compact and moving well is a must. I assume that the script would just put a hold on the player's ability to use the item until a business decision is made, to sell or withdraw? Or will this need to be a new category in my DB?

[tender fossil]

I'm not sure if I understood it correctly, but yeah, you probably don't want an item or entity added to the marketplace to be accessible/usable while it's there (i.e. not sold or withdrawn)

But that's different level of abstraction and not directly coupled with the technical aspect of DB design

[tough abyss]

Sorry, early and need more coffee. The item must be frozen from use regardless. I think what I actually would like is to have it go to a new category, to make it easier to see and keep track of on the admin side. We have "housing," "vehicles," and "players" (which includes all items and stats). I am thinking it would be better to have the items placed in a new "marketplace" one. It would keep things orderly, easier to observe from the back end, and probably simplify the script. If that is not a good way to go, I am open to any suggestions.

[tender fossil]

No worries, I have the same issue 😂

So you want like a general marketplace with all the things? The good thing is that you have pretty much complete freedom to decide how you organize the marketplace (and the database) on a business logic / game design level, as long as you take care of the DB performance and not hitting technical limitations in general

[tough abyss]

That is great to hear! I will come up with an outline, and start piecing things together. Thanks for the help, I am sure I will be back more than once on this one, but it is more doable than I though it would be 😅

[tender fossil]

Btw, what kind of database are you running currently, if you have the three categories there already?

[tough abyss]

We are managing everything through phpMyAdmin. We started with the Altis Life 5.0 framework by Tonic. We have been at it for over a year, and have edited so much of it, that I don't know what is left of huge parts of the original.

[tender fossil]

I don't know how Altis Life is programmed when it comes to DB stuff and don't know PHP well either, so can't help there unfortunately 😅

Was just thinking that if your team has the needed skills, you could also keep using the current database and just reorganize it (as an option)

[tough abyss]

No worrries! It is a niche area, took a lot of research to figure out that team's mind, lol.
I have edited our current one quite a bit so that shouldn't be a problem.

[tender fossil]

You might even be able to keep the database structure as is and just rewrite the SQF part to handle the new marketplace

[tough abyss]

Yeah, that should work!

Outside of this DB line of Q's, if we wanted to make this market place have a barter system, would the following work?

Player A lists x Diamonds, Player B lists x Gold.
Player B uses the dialog to place an automated message to the other player, which they will see when they next access the market. (Stringtable with all the % variables to get the info right).
Player A reads the message, and presses accept deal.

I assume that is the gist of how that would be scripted out?

[tender fossil]

You can do it like that yeah, or just use money for everything instead. I think barter system would be kinda nice (personal opinion), but using money instead would be much more flexible for players especially if the player count or activity level in the marketplace is low. I would probably choose money as the trade mechanism thanks to the massively better flexibility. (Also just as a thought, having a small mobile app for the barter system (if implemented) would be cool lol)

[tough abyss]

Haha, great minds! I actually plan to ask this week about more dialog related scripting to do new menus. As for the barter, we plan to have both options. Buy/Sell/Trade was our goal, and I think I can piece it together, now. I am sure I will get my butt handed to me a few times, but this will be a great addition. Our gameplay is economic and business grand strategy, so this would really up things.

[tender fossil]

Yeah, that sounds good! In that case, you could incentivize using the barter mechanism by adding a considerable "service fee" and/or a tax to the deals made with money. So players would always prefer the barter system and the money based transactions would serve as a fallback if the barter mechanism didn't have suitable combinations available

Anyways, I think we need to continue this discussion e.g. in #game_design if needed 😅

[tough abyss]

I just made a cup of coffee. If you want to workshop, I am always open to ideas, lol.

[buoyant hound]

Hey whats usage of ∆ in game?scripts

[warm hedge]

A what

[buoyant hound]

I just remember use it before some variable on init.sqf

[jade acorn]

use what

[thin fox]

what

[buoyant hound]

∆

[warm hedge]

1. We don't know that term
2. We don't know what you're trying to say
3. We don't know what you've ever used

[thin fox]

a delta?

[buoyant hound]

∆ somevariable

Yes@thin fox

[thin fox]

show us an example

[warm hedge]

A delta maybe is related to SQF. Δ never is

[exotic gyro]

You can technically use emojis in sqf so I guess you could use that delta symbol too

[thin fox]

💀

[jade acorn]

I'm messing around with the weapon wheel mod, by default it makes the unit equip the chosen weapon via selectWeapon but it only works with equipped weapons. How do I let player equip a weapon from a backpack without having to delete it and then use addWeapon?

[exotic gyro]

private _data = createHashmap;
_data set ["🐸","I love frogs!"];
_data get "🐸"
// returns "I love frogs!"

The applications for this are immense, as you can see.

[hallow mortar]

You could try action / actionNow with "TakeWeapon", but you're always going to run into some limitations because weapons in inventory aren't unique objects.

[thin fox]

loved 😂

[warm hedge]

They are https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/uniformContainer
@jade acorn

[hallow mortar]

I didn't say uniforms, I said weapons

[warm hedge]

Ah sorry

[ruby spoke]

Does anyone know if it's possible to create a 3D progress bar through the Draw3D eventhandler?

[warm hedge]

Well, just tried. At least TakeWeapon can access a weapon that is stored in a backpack

This could be your best bet

[jade acorn]

will play with that thanks

[old owl]

That is genuinely so not sane and funny at the same time

Never really thought of doing that, or if it was possible

[granite sky]

It's just UTF :P

[manic sigil]

What would be the easiest way to have a vehicle-smoke-screen effect on a vehicle or position that doesnt have one natively? Like, an instant concealment over an area for a landing ship, say. ETA: Found an option from an old thread, but it's rather chunky.

[granite sky]

Drop grenades in an arc?

[jade acorn]

is it a bug that when adding a displayAddEventHandler in a mission, it does not remove itself after this mission's restart? Right now I have to go back to editor and play it again to have it gone, otherwise it just stacks

[granite sky]

Unless the display is deleted when the mission restarts, I would imagine that the event handlers attached to it hang around.

[jade acorn]

I guess it does not by itself which is a bit inconvenient

[granite sky]

I don't know of any documentation on which displays are permanent vs temporary.

[jade acorn]

I have the EH attached to 46

[earnest valve]

Draw3D is used for the map only.

[tulip ridge]

Is there anyway to persistently save data to a mission? I have an eden module that creates objects and I want to save the class / position / etc. so it will be the same when the mission is launched and when run from a dedicated server.

missionNamespace is reset between mission loads and missionProfileNamespace is saved to the player's namespace (so it would be different on a server)

[granite sky]

Use missionProfileNamespace (or profilenamespace) and read/write the data on the server.

[earnest valve]

So far, only 2D progress bars can be made. But I think it's possible (not sure if anyone has tried) to create a progress bar model and then animate it.

which could take a long time to do.

[thin fox]

I have something going on with this in one of my missions, idk if it helps

[jade abyss]

Long time? 10min

[errant iron]

it sounds like your data should be represented as eden entities or module attributes (create3DENEntity / set3DENAttribute) since they're saved to the mission.sqm directly, but i've never touched eden-related scripting before, so i'm not sure of an appropriate entry point to run those commands from...

wouldn't work with dynamic data though... in that case, write an extension and HTTP POST your module namespace to a webserver to be fetched by clients with same mission hash?

[granite sky]

oh yeah, if you're actually trying to edit the mission then the 3DEN commands I guess. I'm not entirely sure what the question meant.

[tulip ridge]

I guess I could make then 3den objects, but I want them as simple objects for the actual mission for performance reasons

Still has the issue of I need to somehow save which objects are created by the module

[errant iron]

can the objects only be created at mission runtime, or would it make sense to pre-generate them in the editor?

[granite sky]

set3DENLayer?

You can set 3den entities to be simple objects, so I'd guess you can do that with set3DENAttribute too.

[earnest valve]

Well not with the 2D models (they are relatively easy to create), but creating a model that acts like a progress bar with animations (similar to what you would see with compasses and watches) may take a while to do. 😉

[tulip ridge]

I'm not sure what your question is about, they're already being created in Eden. I'm then saving the class / position / etc. to then make them as simple once mission actually starts

[tulip ridge]

Option isn't there for everything, and I'm making them as model simple objects since they don't need the extra stuff like being able to change textures / materials

[granite sky]

I thought the only objects that didn't have the setting were the ones that it didn't matter for.

[tulip ridge]

Not sure, but I assume the checkbox uses the class simple objects instead of model path
Would need to look in-game to verify that though

[errant iron]

ah okay, i was imagining your module existed by itself and at mission start it would create the objects

[granite sky]

I personally love premature optimization, but I'd certainly check whether there's a benefit here before making life that hard for yourself :P

[tulip ridge]

configFile >> "Cfg3DEN" >> "Object" >> "AttributeCategories" >> "StateSpecial" >> "Attributes" >> "SimpleObject" didn't have anything special in it, not sure where else the logic for it would be

[tulip ridge]

I'm not prematurely optimizing, I have the default object count at like 300 (module is creating lots of objects in a rather large area), and get a decent stutter when using entities instead of just simple objects

It's also just a whole lot of clutter, though I could move them to their own layer and possibly disable transformation directly

[jade abyss]

Even that

[granite sky]

yeah but class simple rather than model simple? Not sure if that ever makes much difference.

[jade abyss]

Not that long to create. A simple Anim (moving to 2 Points from Left to Right) isn't "Time consuming".

[errant iron]

if this data was persisted as an eden attribute on the module, model/pos/orientation/..., could that work instead?

[tulip ridge]

Yeah, though that'd be a lot of data. Not sure if there's any kind of potential issue there.
Probably will just settle for eden entities with simulation disabled / simple object enabled, though both will bloat mission size by a fair amount

[ruby spoke]

Then how would I be able to control the speed of the progress depending on what is being loaded?

[jade abyss]

in model.cfg min=0 max=1 || bar animate["bar",0-1];

thats it

(btw. idk if you can animate the 3D Obj, but should be possible)

[ruby spoke]

ok thx

while people are replying here, can I ask an unrelated question as well?

[cosmic lichen]

If it has a data property then it's handled inside the engine.

And if you want to store a lot of data you could save it as a string not as array. See the inventory attribute for crates in eden

[tulip ridge]

Yeah I have it as an edit box attribute

And then parseSimpleArray when reading it

[manic sigil]

Tried to follow the wiki's examples for adding a module to Zeus, but didnt have much luck. Would there be a good guide somewhere that I can't find on Google without its AI getting in the way?

[warm hedge]

Spoiler: It's painful

[manic sigil]

So im experiencing t_t

[formal grail]

You can create particle effects in sqf. For example this script, you just need to create a smoke grenade for each direction and then pass it in here, then delete the smoke grenade.

params ["_asset"];
private _smokeGrenades = [];

private _radius = 2;
for "_i" from -90 to 90 step 20 do {
    private _x = _radius * sin (_i + random 5 - 2.5);
    private _y = _radius * cos (_i + random 5 - 2.5);

    private _smokeGrenade = createVehicle ["SmokeShell", _asset modelToWorld [_x, _y, 1], [], 0, "FLY"];
    _smokeGrenade setDir (getDir _asset + (_i + random 5 - 2.5));

    _smokeGrenade setVelocityModelSpace [0, 15 + random 5, 5 + random 1];
    _smokeGrenades pushBack _smokeGrenade;
};

sleep 2;
{
    [_x] call WL2_fnc_smokeScript;
} forEach _smokeGrenades;

sleep 10;
{
    deleteVehicle _x;
} forEach _smokeGrenades;

And this is the smoke script:

params ["_smokeEntity"];

private _smokePos = _smokeEntity modelToWorld [0, 0, 0];
_smokePos set [2, 1];

private _smoke = createVehicle ["#particlesource", _smokePos, [], 0, "NONE"];
_smoke setParticleParams [["\A3\data_f\ParticleEffects\Universal\Universal", 16, 7, 48, 1], "", "Billboard", 1, 10, [0, 0, 0], [0, 0, 0.5], 0, 1.277, 1, 0.025, [1, 16, 24, 30], [[1, 1, 1, 0.7],[1, 1, 1, 0.5], [1, 1, 1, 0.25], [1, 1, 1, 0]], [0.2], 1, 0.04, "", "", _smoke];
_smoke setParticleRandom [2, [1, 1, 1], [1.5, 1.5, 1], 20, 0.05 + random 0.05, [0, 0, 0, 0.1], 0, 0, 360];
_smoke setDropInterval 0.2;

private _smoke2 = createVehicle ["#particlesource", _smokePos, [], 0, "NONE"];
_smoke2 setParticleParams [["\A3\data_f\ParticleEffects\Universal\Universal", 16, 12, 7, 0], "", "Billboard", 1, 5, [0, 0, 0], [0, 0, 0.5], 0, 1.277, 1, 0.025, [1, 16, 24, 30], [[1, 1, 1, 1],[1, 1, 1, 1], [1, 1, 1, 0.5], [1, 1, 1, 0]], [0.2], 1, 0.04, "", "", _smoke2];
_smoke2 setParticleRandom [2, [1, 1, 1], [1.5, 1.5, 1], 20, 0.05 + random 0.05, [0, 0, 0, 0.1], 0, 0, 360];
_smoke2 setDropInterval 0.15;

sleep 45;

_smoke setDropInterval 0;
_smoke2 setDropInterval 0;

[tulip ridge]

(Should definitely just disable the ai features, they're always useless)

If you need to do anything with ui it's a bit of a pain because you need to set it up yourself. If you just want something like you can place the module onto an object and run some code on the object then you can do that pretty easily without UI

[primal quiver]

Does anyone have pointers on how to disable NVG for scopes?

[tulip ridge]

Not an easy way via scripting afaik

[primal quiver]

damn, oh well. I know how to do it for NVG and stuff but ye

[tulip ridge]

VisionModeChanged may trigger for scopes with built in nvgs, only thing I can think of

[primal quiver]

I found this script but for thermals

addMissionEventHandler ["Draw3D",
{
if (currentVisionMode player isEqualTo 2) then
{
if (isNil "A3W_thermalOffline") then
{
"A3W_thermalOffline" cutText ["THERMAL IMAGING OFFLINE", "BLACK", 0.001, false];
A3W_thermalOffline = true;
};
}
else
{
if (!isNil "A3W_thermalOffline") then
{
"A3W_thermalOffline" cutText ["", "PLAIN", 0.001, false];
A3W_thermalOffline = nil;
};
};
}];

It works, but well. I wonder if there's something for Night Vision specifically

[tulip ridge]

You'd change the the 2 to a 1

That also doesn't change the player's vision mode at all Oh I see, it's just blocking out the screen with it

[winter rose]

!code

[wicked roost]

How to use SQF syntax highlighting in Discord

```sqf
// your code here
hint "good!";
```
↓

// your code here
hint "good!";

[winter rose]

!sqf

hmm, changing that

[primal quiver]

It works for thermal at least which makes it a bit easier... still trying to experiment atm on how to disable NVGs

[tulip ridge]

currentVisionMode player in [1, 2]

Though I wonder if https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/disableNVGEquipment works for optics as well

It does not

[primal quiver]

It does work for vics at least! 🙂

[tulip ridge]

Yeah, I should've specified I meant handheld weapon optics

[primal quiver]

Thanks tho for helping! I'm still looking for other solutions

[manic sigil]

That would be ideal; I have a function put together that makes a ship drive forward until it hits land, throw up a smoke screen, dismount troops and/or vehicles and make them charge forward, before backing out and retreating. If I could get it into a module token to drop on a boat, thats all Id really need.

[manic sigil]

Yeah, thats pretty similar to the solution I pulled up. Guess if its the best option I got, Ill stick with it - but thanks 🙂

[tulip ridge]

Then you could do that fairly easily. This is how all of my basic modules are set up, but you may want changes to it

class CfgVehicles {
    class Module_F;
    class YourPrefix_moduleBase: Module_F {
        scope = 0;
        scopeCurator = 2;
        author = "Your Name";

        category = "YourPrefix_modules"; // class in CfgFactionClasses
        isGlobal = 1; // 0 for server only, 1 for global execution, 2 for JIP global execution
        curatorCost = 1;
    };

    // Make sure to add YourPrefix_module<Name> to your CfgPatches >> units array
    class YourPrefix_module<Name>: YourPrefix_moduleBase {
        scope = 1;
        author = "Your Name";
        displayName = "Module Name";
        function = "YourPrefix_fnc_module<Name>"; // Should be a function name, not code directly
        curatorCanAttach = 1; // When placed on an object, the module will be attached to the object
    };
};

// fnc_module<Name>.sqf
params ["_logic"];

if (!local _logic) exitWith {};

private _object = attachedTo _logic;
deleteVehicle _logic;

// Assume the script should exit by default, and then switch over invalid cases
// Each case condition should be what must be true for the module to work
private _exit = true;
switch (false) do {
    case (!isNull _object): {
        [objNull, "Must select an object"] call BIS_fnc_showCuratorFeedbackMessage;
    };
    case (alive _object): {
        [objNull, "Object must be alive"] call BIS_fnc_showCuratorFeedbackMessage;
    };
    // You should do extra checking here as well
    default {
        _exit = false;
    };
};

if (_exit) exitWith {};

// Do whatever your module should do

[manic sigil]

Thanks, Ill give this a go when I get a chance 😄

[quaint oyster]

I found a cheap way, remove and add back the scope. I never found anything after hours of looking.

[cosmic lichen]

You have tried https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/disableNVGEquipment I assume?

[primal quiver]

I tried that but it's still there 🙁

[primal quiver]

Works perfectly, but only for vehicles

[tulip ridge]

Though I wonder if https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/disableNVGEquipment works for optics as well
It does not
It only affected your equipped nvgs when I tested it

[cosmic lichen]

Yeah sometimes these commands work on units as well.

[tulip ridge]

It does work on units

It just doesn't affect weapon mounted optics

[quaint oyster]

Oh I think i do this:
Store optic info
Remove optic
Replace with dot sight or something with no nvg or thermal
Remove optic
Replace with original optic

See if this cheap method helps. Might not be required to remove it so many times but I wanted to be safe.

I'm not home to look at the code specifically, I can send it later though.

[primal quiver]

Oh sure! I'd definitey appreciate that!

[quaint oyster]

It's not ideal I just wish there was a better solution. But it works..

[primal quiver]

It's better than nothing but I really appreciate it! 🙂

[sharp grotto]

Some years ago, i made that for someone, don't remember if it also worked for infantry scopes.
Worth a try

player addEventHandler ["VisionModeChanged", { 
    params ["_person", "_visionMode", "_TIindex", "_visionModePrev", "_TIindexPrev", "_vehicle", "_turret"]; 
    //systemChat "VisionMode changed";
    if (_visionMode != 2) exitWith {}; 
    if (!isNull _vehicle) then 
    {
        _TIDisabled = (equipmentDisabled _vehicle) #1;
        if!(_TIDisabled) then {_vehicle disableTIEquipment true};
    }; 
    _person action ["nvGogglesOff", _person]; 
}];

[tulip ridge]

That won't no

[primal quiver]

For scopes unfortunately it doesn't work

[winter rose]

let's cut to the chase: you cannot without a mod. Contact did it by having assetName (disabled) configs, aka same model without NVG features

[primal quiver]

I see, I tried looking for mods everywhere on the workshop that would allow me to disable NVG for the scopes but if it doesn't exist then I'll just try to keep on experimenting or hope someone will reply with a solution.

[quaint oyster]

Here's what I ended up settling with. Not ideal, but it did the trick for me. As you can see there's some extra things in there with it you'd have to remove.

[{

private _currentWeapon = currentWeapon player;
private _hasThermal = false;

if (player getVariable ["pvpmode", 0] isEqualto 1) then {
private _visionMode = currentVisionMode player;
if (_visionMode > 1) then {


//force off the players thermal goggles if they have some on
player action ["nvGogglesOff", player];
hintSilent "Thermal imaging is due to PvP mode!";

//disables gun optics thermal modes but allows nvg
if (currentWeapon player == primaryWeapon player) then {
_currentoptic = primaryWeaponItems player select 2;
_currentweapon = primaryWeapon player;
player removePrimaryWeaponItem _currentoptic;
player addPrimaryWeaponItem "optic_ACO_grn";
player removePrimaryWeaponItem _currentoptic;
player addPrimaryWeaponItem _currentoptic;
};

};

//forced camera back into first person
if ((cameraView == "external" )&& (vehicle player == player)) then {
player switchCamera "internal";
};

};

}, 0.1, []] call CBA_fnc_addPerFrameHandler;

[primal quiver]

I'll try this!

[quaint oyster]

here's with some excess stuff removed that was either dead code or not acting right or were moot for the topic at hand, I'll leave both up to show you how the original one worked despite the dead pieces in it.

[{

private _visionMode = currentVisionMode player;
if (_visionMode > 1) then {


//force off the players thermal goggles if they have some on
player action ["nvGogglesOff", player];
hintSilent "Thermal imaging is disabled!";

//disables gun optics thermal modes but allows nvg
if (currentWeapon player == primaryWeapon player) then {
_currentoptic = primaryWeaponItems player select 2;
player removePrimaryWeaponItem _currentoptic;
player addPrimaryWeaponItem "optic_ACO_grn";
player removePrimaryWeaponItem "optic_ACO_grn";
player addPrimaryWeaponItem _currentoptic;
};


};

}, 0.1, []] call CBA_fnc_addPerFrameHandler;

[primal quiver]

Okay! So this works with disable thermals in scopes at least or prevents them from being used! For NVGs, not much luck tho. Will try to experiment tho!

[primal quiver]

How would I disable the NVG mode while in an optic as well for this

[primal quiver]

Got it! Did some guessing and used this as reference.

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/currentVisionMode

changed the digit in "(_visionMode > 1)" to 0 and done!

Thank you so much!

[thin fox]

[steel spoke]

oh

execvm you say

this may explain my localization issues

hmmm

need me some JIP compatibility

[thin fox]

it's just where you executed

@steel spoke initPlayerLocal has a second parameter to get JIP as a boolean

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Event_Scripts#initPlayerLocal.sqf

I rarely use this one (the second parameter)

yes, it will get the player object and if he is JIP (true or false)

it's useful when you want to show stuff just for the player that starts with the mission

if a player enters the mission later (jip), then it won't show for him

[blissful current]

I've got choice paralysis regarding the design of my helicopter sequence and I'd love some opinions on the matter:

1. All players must be in the heli to RTB. Easier to script since I dont have to account for other possibilities. Not realistic?
2. Anyone can trigger the RTB. Means players can leave others behind. Not totally mission-breaking since respawn is allowed. More realistic? Heli wont stay forever and under fire.

Currently, the heli is a one way trip. I could script it to return, though that opens up a can of worms. But maybe that's more realistic giving players more freedom.

[thin fox]

it's your scenario, your job to figured out what's best

think that we have no idea what your scenario is like

[tulip ridge]

Could check that all players within X distance are in the area and then leave.

I.e. "if all players within 1km of the area are in the rtb zone, rtb".

Assuming the reason players aren't there because they died and respawned or something

They're just asking for opinions on whaf to have the condition as

[modern plank]

Hello, I need some script to be able to respawn the bots who spawned at the beginning from the playable slots. I want generic code, I ignore their loadouts, numbers and groups.

I am thinking about storing in a variable as arrays of arrays the loadouts of all AI units in initServer.sqf, then read these arrays to createUnits then setUnitLoadout.

Do you see an easier alternative? Thx

[manic sigil]

Alright, I've been tinkering with this for a little while and unfortunately haven't had any success T_T

I've added the function's bit and integrated it what I presume to be correctly, but I can't get the module to appear in my Zeus interface.

[tulip ridge]

My mistake, I just realized I removed / didn't include the scope = 1; from the example. You'll need that and to have the class name in your CfgPatches >> units list for it to appear in Zeus

[manic sigil]

Had me hopeful there for a second, but no dice. I'm very grateful for your help, all the same 🙂

In missionroot\SRD_Landingcraft\config.cpp:

class CfgPatches
{
    class SRD_Landingcraft
    {
        units[] = {"SRD_module_BoatAssault"};
        requiredVersion = 1.0;
        requiredAddons[] = { "A3_Modules_F" };
    };
};


class CfgFactionClasses
{
    class NO_CATEGORY;
    class SRD_modules: NO_CATEGORY
    {
        displayName = "SRDModules";
    };

};


class CfgVehicles {
    class Logic;
    class Module_F;
    class SRD_moduleBase: Module_F {
        scope = 0;
        scopeCurator = 2;
        author = "ShiningRayde";

        category = "SRD_modules"; // class in CfgFactionClasses
        isGlobal = 1; // 0 for server only, 1 for global execution, 2 for JIP global execution
        curatorCost = 1;
    };

    // Make sure to add SRD_module<Name> to your CfgPatches >> units array
    class SRD_module_BoatAssault: SRD_moduleBase {
    scope = 1;
        author = "ShiningRayde";
        displayName = "Begin Boat Assault";
        function = "SRD_fnc_beginassault"; // Should be a function name, not code directly
        curatorCanAttach = 1; // When placed on an object, the module will be attached to the object
    };
};

[tulip ridge]

Ah well that'd be your issue, you can't create modules in a mission

It has to be a mod

[pallid palm]

triggers can act like modules in a mission

none area triggers that is

[tulip ridge]

In a way I suppose, but not really as an easy thing you can do from zeus

[manic sigil]

I suppose I'm a little fuzzy on the difference; I've made a companion mod for Mike Force before, running a blank copy of the map and utilizing functions and scripting.

[pallid palm]

oh yeah Zeus i forgot

[manic sigil]

The wiki entry conveniently leaves off that detail X_X

[tulip ridge]

Are you placing your config in an actual mission folder (i.e. MissionName.MapName)? That's what I assume what you mean by missionroot in your message

[tulip ridge]

Missions in general are very limited config wise. The main things you can make are sounds, music, and sound effects (the CfgVehicles ones)

[thin fox]

[pallid palm]

oh hi Lou lol 🙂

[manic sigil]

Yeah, it's in a mission folder. I had a JImmy Neutron Brain Blast moment and tried to Local Mod load just the SRD_Landingcraft folder but got correctly informed it has no Addons folder.

[tulip ridge]

The Zeus Enhanced mod has their own way of making Zeus modules via script, but I've never used it before so I'm not aware of any limitations it might have

[manic sigil]

I used that previously and had success with it, but wanted to make this more generally available.

[tulip ridge]

You'd have to implement it as a mod then

Which isn't that difficult

[manic sigil]

Indeed, I got it in a few attempts, just had to remember how to arrange a .pbo conversion X_X

The module appears, and seems to run the code! At least, until it hits a bug, being passed an array instead of an object, but that's life.

[tulip ridge]

What's the exact error and where it occurs?

[manic sigil]

I see what I did, had a second helping of Params in there between your section and my script.

Or... thought I did, at least. Hmm.

Alright, it was reading the function I had in the mission file, not in the addon.

But removing the function from the mission file leaves me with a bottom-screen error of 'cannot execute module, error found in 'the function name' '

[tulip ridge]

Is your function defined in your mod?

[manic sigil]

I'm guessing not, hmm. That wouldn't just be a description.ext file, would it?

[tulip ridge]

Nope, you'd need to define it in your config.cpp

If you're using CfgFunctions, then you can just copy/paste it over and just change the path to the function

[manic sigil]

Something as:

class CfgFunctions
{
    class SRD 
    {
     tag="SRD";   
                
            class functions 
                {
            class beginassault
                    {
                        description = "Launches Assault Boat";
                        postInit = 0;
                    };

        };
    };
};

It threw an error on loading up the game that the function wasn't found, despite Addons/functions/fn_beginassault.sqf existing.

That was copied direct from the original description.ext from the mission version.

Probably pathed wrong, I'm sure x_x

[tulip ridge]

The default file path is different for mods (not sure why honestly)

I think that should technically be fine since you have the category as functions, but I'd personally always use the file parameter in the category class to specify exactly where they are
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Functions_Library

You'll need to start the path with your pboprefix, which is using addon builder will just default to the folder name you're packing

[manic sigil]

So something like file = "@SRD_Landingcraft\Addons\Functions" ?

[tulip ridge]

What there is the folder you're packing?

[manic sigil]

Ah, right, Addons

[tulip ridge]

You have to pack each addon, which in that setup would be Functions, individually

You'd also want the folder name to include your prefix, e.g. SRD_Functions

[manic sigil]

I'd be packing the srd_functions folder as it's own pbo?

[tulip ridge]

Yeah

[manic sigil]

Nevermind, got a step closer; no error, and it shows up in the functions viewer under configFile 😄

[tulip ridge]

🎉

[manic sigil]

But then throws a script error. But at least that I can wrap my head around.

Bah... an exit clause I swore I fixed up, checking if the object if a boat or not.

[tulip ridge]

You can post the script here if you'd like

[manic sigil]

I got it, originally did a dumb '!iskindof', then forgot that it still needed to be inverted to (!(_vehicle isKindOf "Boat"))

Some unexpected behaviours I wasn't seeing in my initial scripting tests, but otherwise it seems to be working 😄

Thank you so much, Dart!

[tulip ridge]

No problem, glad it's working for ya

[manic sigil]

Now on to other problems... like my supposedly bulletproof plan of using setVelocityModelSpace to force boats to ground themselves directly ahead working fine on larger modded ships, but little boats that can dip and rise suddenly becoming airborne :c

[pallid palm]

the speed boats work great for that

lol i like sliding up on the Shore at full speed and jumping out 🙂

[manic sigil]

They do, but the AI drivers dont.

This is a tool for making AI driven landing assaults more effective and cinematic.

[pallid palm]

really hmm i never had Ai try it 🙂

[manic sigil]

A much older version I used vectorLinearConversion, which works but seeing boats smoothly glide along between start and end points, heedless of waves or dangers was... unnerving.

And meant that the mission maker had to plan out specific nonconflicting boat paths.

[pallid palm]

Ai do some dumb things don't thay: but they do other things Awsome

roger that m8

[manic sigil]

There we go, just had to give the while-do loop forcing the speed a bit more breathing room between loops.

[pallid palm]

for water landing assaults i just have a player as the driver of each boat and the Ai as riders

if i have the Ai on that is

but i see your meaning

[modern plank]

Ok same implementation, except the way you do respawn your bots.

[modern plank]

Finally, I go with this implementation:

// SAVE AI INITIAL LOADOUTS AT STARTUP 
if (isServer) then {
  { [_x, [_x, "INITIAL_LOADOUT"]] call BIS_fnc_saveInventory; } forEach (allUnits - allPlayers);
};

// THEN REVIVE AI WHENEVER IT NEEDS
revive_ai = {
  { 
    _unit = (group _x) createUnit[typeOf _x, position _x, [], 0, "NONE"];
    [_unit, [_x, "INITIAL_LOADOUT"]] call BIS_fnc_loadInventory;
    deleteVehicle _x;
  } forEach (allDeadMen - allPlayers);
};

[still forum]

That is not a Armed Assault Script File. As it says on the top.
addMissionEventHandler was only added with Arma 3.

[manic sigil]

So, if I make a mod to add a zeus module, will it only utilize functions designated within the mod files? Or can I tell it to run a function from the mission its run in?

Repacking the .pbo each time is kinda soul and time draining, and Im hoping theres an easier way Im just not thinking of.

[warm hedge]

It doesn't matter as it is just an SQF. You can use any script

[pallid palm]

yeah i made that script myself: it just had the incorrect header: i changed the header now for you:

@manic sigil do you have PBO manager its way easy that way

[manic sigil]

I do not, just using the Arma Tools packer :x

[pallid palm]

i see maybe you want to look into PBO manager

its super fast

@modern plank that will save all loadouts on All Ai even the enemy

is that want you intended

[modern plank]

sure.

[pallid palm]

ok

[tough abyss]

I have been working on some "talking NPCs." Thanks to the help here, things are going great. The next thing I want to do, is add a randomization to some of the chats when you trigger the addAction. For example, if there were five lines of chat, each would have a 20% chance of displaying when a player interacts. If anyone could point me to a wiki that would help with that, many thanks. The above is the simplest example of what we have. It could be better, but it works well enough.

[pallid palm]

NPC (Non Player Character) 🙂 or Ai as it were

@tough abyss i just use addMissionEventHandler

[tulip ridge]

You can just use a selectRandom (or even selectRandomWeighted if you want to fine tune stuff more)

private _message = selectRandom ["Message 1", "Message 2", "Message 3"];
customChat [6, _message];

[tulip ridge]

That's not related to what they're asking

[pallid palm]

oh ok sorry bout that

[thin fox]

or you can use selectRandomWeighted to set up weight for each values, if you want some text to show more than others. I love this command.
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/selectRandomWeighted

[pallid palm]

wow cool i never saw this before

[tough abyss]

@thin fox & @tulip ridge Sorry for the ping, but you guys each nailed it. I already can see uses for both 🍻

[tough abyss]

Absolutely amazing! We used a simple example script for variables in our mines (different metals and minerals), but it is really static and gets predictable. This will be used for way more than just the NPCs.

[pallid palm]

@tulip ridge is that posisable to use inside the addMissionEventHandler

[tulip ridge]

Yeah

[tough abyss]

On the selectRandomWeighted wiki page it says: "If numbers of items and weights do not match, the shortest array is used." Can someone explain that to me? With very long lists of items and weights, I can easily see making some mistakes and not having a 1:1 setup. So, I am curious what results that would yield?

[tulip ridge]

It means that doing:

selectRandomWeighted ["Val1", 1, "Val2"];

Will only use Val1, because there's no value for Val2.

Similar thing for the alternate syntax:

["Val1", "Val2"] selectRandomWeighted [1];

Only Val1 would be selected

[tough abyss]

Perfect explanation, thanks! I can't afford that, so it is time to get some paper and a pen and do math. I don't have to do it often, but it is my least favorite part of scripting so far, lol.

[tulip ridge]

You just need to have the same number of values as you do weights, that's all it's saying

There's no math required for that

[tough abyss]

Gotcha, I was unclear with my wording, I just meant time to get to work on it, and griping about it. Need more coffee today, brain is mush!

[thin fox]

Working example:
I use numbers like 0 to 1, to mimic %, you can use 0 to 100, any number.

    private _selected = ["CIVS", "ENEMIES"] selectRandomWeighted [0.8, 0.2];

    switch _selected do {
        case "CIVS" : {
            [] call PIG_fnc_civilHighwaySpawn;
        };
        case "ENEMIES" : {
            [] call PIG_fnc_enemiesHighwaySpawn;
        }
    };

[tough abyss]

So the weights in that expample make an 80% and 20% chance?

[thin fox]

so it's like "80%" spawning civs and "20%" spawning enemies

[tough abyss]

Great to know! I don't think we need more than 1% increments, should be fairly easy.

The only thing left I would need to know, is how to make "like" NPCs use the same .sqf if possible. In my example above that is one avatar, out of five total identical ones. Each is at an airport. We also have "shop vendors" in our businesses, and four towns on each map, so four identical units per industry. So, for an example, I would like to have units with the variables "Endyou321_1", "Endyou321_2", "Endyou321_3, all function the same way, but without needing to update separate files each week when we change their various monologues. I am not sure how to tell it "if/or" between the units, and have the same end result.

[thin fox]

use arguments

pass the object as an arguments, and use params to get it in your script

like [Endyou321_1] execVM "myScript.sqf"
and in the script, on the top, put:
params["_unit"];, the variable _unit will be the object that was passed as an argument, and you can place it where you need it in your script

[tough abyss]

I was way overthinking it! Thanks @thin fox , I believe we don't need to do anything more to this humble system. You helped on several steps for this the past week or so. Our players loved the prototype. They have an oldschool Nintendo rambling character vibe, and it is a good nostalgic touch.

[stable dune]

faster use random and >
and you dont need pass empty [] in fnc.

if (random 1 > 0.2) then {
    call PIG_fnc_civilHighwaySpawn;
} else {
    call PIG_fnc_enemiesHighwaySpawn;
};

[thin fox]

thx Prisoner ❤️

[tulip ridge]

You do, because not including it implictly passes the _this variable

If you intend to call a function with no arguments, you should use []

You can run into unexpected issues if you don't do that

// foo takes a number and does X with it, and calls bar
_fnc_foo = {
    params [["_a", 1, [1]]];
    call _fnc_bar; // params error because _bar expects a string, but is being passed a number
};

// bar takes a string and does Y
_fnc_bar = {
    params [["_str", "", [""]]];
};

call _fnc_foo;

The correct usage would be to use [] call _fnc_bar

[thin fox]

the called functions doesn't have params/arguments

would still be a problem?

and the function that runs the random stuff doesn't have either

[tulip ridge]

No, but you should still explicitly call it with an empty array. Semantic reason is that it's "more correct"; but some function along the chain might eventually take some parameters, which could lead to several Bad param errors

[thin fox]

Thx for the info Dart

[stable dune]

True, I didn't remember.
Thanks for explaining

[pure hare]

@blissful current I sadly don't have the time anymore to debug the HEMTT addon issue or do arma modding / follow the ongoing discussion, but if you ever get it to work, please tell me ^^

[blissful current]

Same. Ima wait till I start a fresh mission to dive into that. In the meantime I can test code with linting with the Advance developer tools mod.

[buoyant hound]

Hey , how i can do :
Vehicles move to wp1 then stop 5sec then move to next wp and delete

[granite sky]

You could use setWaypointStatements to spawn code that does something like stop true / sleep / stop false.

[thin fox]

the waypoint has its own timer system, use it, and for deletion do what john said

[granite sky]

I guess there is setWaypointTimeout which in theory does exactly what you want.

[thin fox]

yes, I misunderstood the question

[buoyant hound]

Then when i use setwaypointtimeout for a hold wp i give that wp an sleep and then next waypoint started right?

[thin fox]

it's a command that sets a delay to the completion of the waypoint, then the unit follows the next one and so on

[buoyant hound]

Nice it must work for me
There i need an sleep time for player to take some weapon from truck then truck leave to next wp

[cobalt path]

Does anyone know the script that mods often use in Spaceships? The one where you press addaction and it boosts your aircraft forward to like 800kmph and addaction where it quickly deccelerates you to almost 0. I remember seeing it in Star Wars opposition mod long time ago, used for tie fighters and such, as they were helicopters and couldnt go at speed without it

[ruby spoke]

is it possible to make an array of classes?

[tulip ridge]

It's not one specific script, but the tl;dr is that it's just setVelocity on a keybind

[earnest valve]

ye

yea

[tulip ridge]

You can see our implementation here, but this is not permission to reupload, repack, etc.
https://github.com/Legion-Studios/LegionCore-Public/blob/master/addons/impulsor/functions/fnc_impulsePFH.sqf

[ruby spoke]

Like this || array[] = {class Example1, class Example2};

[earnest valve]

you mean for config scripting or .sqf?

[ruby spoke]

config

[earnest valve]

ah. Well yes it is possible on some terms.

[buoyant hound]

Hey, the main target
Spawn truck set waypoint to move to marker1 wait for 5s then set waypoint to move to marker2 wait for 2s then delete vehicle
The waypointtimeout or statement or script not worked , am run code from debug console on zeus , vehicle spawned move to waypoints but no react about timing or removing

st = 
{
_tc = "isc_ia_gaz66_o"; 
_tr = createVehicle [_tc,getMarkerPos "spawn", [],0,"NONE"]; 
_gtrd = createGroup independent; 
_trd = _gtrd createUnit ["C_Tak_01_C_lxWS",getMarkerPos "spawn",[],0,"NONE"];
_trd moveInDriver _tr; 
_w1 = _gtrd addWaypoint [getMarkerPos "stop",0]; 
_w1 setWaypointType "MOVE"; 
_w1 setWaypointBehaviour "CARELESS"; 
_w1 setWaypointScript "hint '123'";
_w2 = _gtrd addWaypoint [getMarkerPos "delete",10]; 
_w2 setWaypointType "MOVE"; 
_w2 setWaypointBehaviour "CARELESS";
_w2 setWaypointStatements ["TRUE","deleteVehicleCrew _tr;
deleteVehicle _tr;"]; 
};
[_tc] call st;

[earnest valve]

Like for example: Units[] = {myUnit1, myUnit2, myUnit3} ... as seen in the CfgPatches

[thin fox]

where is the timeout set up? I'm blind

[buoyant hound]

_w1 setWaypointTimeout [5,5,5];

[thin fox]

but it's not in the code that you provided

[earnest valve]

same for CfgMusic too

[buoyant hound]

Not matter , i test it before, you think that i check it in thesetwaypointscript position

I test one by one and its my last one

[ruby spoke]

yeah that's where i got the idea from

[thin fox]

I'll test your code later, but from my experience, setWaypointTimeout works

[ruby spoke]

I'm wondering how I could apply that in my own script

[granite sky]

The setWaypointStatements there won't work because it's referencing _tr that doesn't exit in the context.

[buoyant hound]

Look i test this codes
_wp1 setWaypointTimeout [5,6,7];
[_gtrd,wp1] setWaypointTimeout [5,6,7];

[buoyant hound]

Where it must be to work?

[thin fox]

read the wiki about that command pls

[buoyant hound]

I test it before with hint code to , that not work too

["true","hint '123'"];

For waypointstatement

[granite sky]

Should run if the waypoint actually completes.

[buoyant hound]

Yes but it wont

My prob is there that not run

[ruby spoke]

So if I had an array of classes like so: items[] = {class item1, class item2};

[granite sky]

shrugs

[buoyant hound]

Maybe i must run it via external sqf file to work?

[granite sky]

We use setWaypointStatements regularly. It works. Main issue is that the code runs everywhere, but that won't be a problem here.

Also that it runs in some cases where it really shouldn't. Which also isn't a problem here :P

[buoyant hound]

Do its the correct writhing?

_w1 setwaypointstatement ["true","hint '123'"];

[granite sky]

you missed the s off the end of statements

[buoyant hound]

Its simply bro , look at this code

In _wp2

[ruby spoke]

how would I be able to use the data inside of the array?

[granite sky]

I already told you that why that code is wrong.

[buoyant hound]

Just for that _tr?

[earnest valve]

u mean acquire data from a config and place it into an .sqf array?

[thin fox]

I stop using that command and start using the waypoint group EH

[granite sky]

My inclination on the next rewrite would be to stop using waypoints entirely given that it's a layer of opaque and buggy trash that you don't need :P

[ruby spoke]

yes

[buoyant hound]

Guide me too for use eh

[ruby spoke]

but from the array

If that makes sense..?

xD

[earnest valve]

lol. so you want an array inside an array? 😃

[thin fox]

like Jonh said, for your case you don't need it, just use that command, the problem in your code is that the _tr is not defined in the waypoint space, _tr is a local variable that only exists in that scope of your code, the waypoint deals with a different scope, and that scope doesn't know what _tr is. Read the wiki on that command (https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/setWaypointStatements), particularly the description, you can use this or thisList to get the object that you want

[buoyant hound]

Bro i say its correct about that _tr

But what about test hint

Hint not work too

Not just that _tr part

[ruby spoke]

class Shop{ items[]={class item1, class item2}; };

like so

[granite sky]

You didn't paste any code with a correct test hint in it.

[earnest valve]

Ahhh

ok

[ruby spoke]

and item1 and 2 are defined classes

[earnest valve]

one sec

[granite sky]

Original one is using setWaypointScript incorrectly. setWaypointScript takes a file path, not a code string. Read the wiki.

[earnest valve]

http://killzonekid.com/arma-scripting-tutorials-arrays-part-2/

that may help 😉

[cosmic kayak]

Does anyone know if there a setPose function we can call? I want to be able to set the pose of my unit to the tactical/scoot crouch. Wiki says there is no such thing, has anyone done this? Tried messing around with: switchMove "<class_name>"; this setUnitPos "DOWN";

[cursive tundra]

i have a question - if i try to get a variable using GetVariable "varName" but the group doesnt have a Variable with this name in it, what does it return? nil? i think so from checking wiki - so i should be able to check against this using isNil?

like ```sqf
_groupComposition = _group getVariable "groupComposition";_groupComposition = _x getVariable "groupComposition"; if !(isNil _groupComposition ) then {...};

[granite sky]

nil, yes.

but your usage of isNil is incorrect. The variable name needs to be in quotes there.

[limber panther]

Hello! I would like to ask for a little assistance. I wrote this script: ```sqf
while { (player getVariable["fw_alcohol_level",0]) > 0 } do {
sleep 180;
_alclevel2 = player getVariable["fw_alcohol_level",0];
_novyalclevel2 = _alclevel2 - 1;
player setvariable["fw_alcohol_level",_novyalclevel2,true];
};

[thin fox]

can be that this is being called multiple times?

[limber panther]

yes, this loop can actually be called multiple times, therefore i do that getvariable setvariable so each individual loop can always work with the most recent value

[tender fossil]

I think the main problem is the sleep command's position in the script. If the script detects that alcohol level is > 0, it will sleep three minutes at first and only after that update the value. The parallel scripts might have modified the variable during the sleep. Try this: ```sqf
while { (player getVariable["fw_alcohol_level",0]) > 0 } do {
_alclevel2 = player getVariable["fw_alcohol_level",0];
_novyalclevel2 = _alclevel2 - 1;
player setvariable["fw_alcohol_level",_novyalclevel2,true];
sleep 180;
};

[limber panther]

oh i'm an idiot, you're right, forgot about that ... but i can't use your suggested solution, the sleep has to be at the top in the first place, earlier in the script before the loop there is another script that adds 1 to the variable, doing it your way would cause adding +1 and right away immediately subtracting -1

[tender fossil]

So are you essentially controlling how quickly the variable value decreases by running multiple decrement loops at the same time?

Because that sounds like it might be better to redesign the whole script

[thin fox]

would an exitWith after the sleep help in your case?

[limber panther]

@tender fossil @thin fox thanks for ideas, i think i can actually do what Ezcoo suggested if i add one extra sleep before the loop begins. The whole script is supposed to let players drink beer in game. Each bottle adds alcohol level by a given amount + a random value. Then over the next 10 minutes the alcohol level climbs up and once it reaches the top, the loop begins and each 3 minutes reduces alcohol level by one simulating sobering. If someone drinks multiple bottles, the alcohol level climbs up faster but thanks to the script running parallel, it also decreases faster, therefore the time from drinking to being sober again is still +- the same regardless of the number of beer bottles.

Here's the whole thing: ```sqf
hintC "You drank a whole beer bottle. Now press ESC to close the window.";
_alclevel = player getVariable["fw_alcohol_level",0];
_novyalclevel = _alclevel + 4 + random 3;
player setvariable["fw_alcohol_level",_novyalclevel,true];
sleep 180;
_trialclevel = player getVariable["fw_alcohol_level",0];
_novytrialclevel = _trialclevel + 1;
player setvariable["fw_alcohol_level",_novytrialclevel,true];
sleep 180;
_sestalclevel = player getVariable["fw_alcohol_level",0];
_novysestalclevel = _sestalclevel + 1;
player setvariable["fw_alcohol_level",_novysestalclevel,true];
sleep 240;
_desetalclevel = player getVariable["fw_alcohol_level",0];
_novydesetalclevel = _desetalclevel + 1;
player setvariable["fw_alcohol_level",_novydesetalclevel,true];

sleep 180;
while { (player getVariable["fw_alcohol_level",0]) > 0 } do {
_alclevel2 = player getVariable["fw_alcohol_level",0];
_novyalclevel2 = _alclevel2 - 1;
player setvariable["fw_alcohol_level",_novyalclevel2,true];
sleep 180;
};

[gleaming token]

// drinkBeer.sqf
// Run this when a player drinks a beer

hintC "You drank a whole beer bottle. Press ESC to close the window.";

// --- Configurable values ---
private _initialBoost = 4 + random 3; // immediate boost
private _stages = [180, 180, 240]; // times between extra +1 increments
private _decayStep = 1; // how much to lower per tick
private _decayDelay = 180; // how long between ticks

// --- Apply initial boost ---
private _level = player getVariable ["fw_alcohol_level", 0];
_level = _level + _initialBoost;
player setVariable ["fw_alcohol_level", _level, true];

// --- Apply staged increases ---
{
sleep _x;
_level = player getVariable ["fw_alcohol_level", 0];
player setVariable ["fw_alcohol_level", _level + 1, true];
} forEach _stages;

// --- Begin decay loop ---
while { (player getVariable ["fw_alcohol_level", 0]) > 0 } do {
sleep _decayDelay;
_level = player getVariable ["fw_alcohol_level", 0];
player setVariable ["fw_alcohol_level", (_level - _decayStep) max 0, true];
};

AI remake

[tender fossil]

Not sure what these variable names mean exactly, but I think I get the idea. You could maybe write a function that takes the incremental "delta" value as parameter and updates the function/script accordingly

You can utilize the same value symmetrically when adjusting and simulating the rate of sobering

So the end result is same, even your idea (which I think is kinda clever in itself), but you'd avoid bad practice in code and make it much less prone to bugs

It would be like switching from FM to AM radio: instead of adjusting frequency you'd adjust amplitude. (Sorry, my currently insomniac brain is a bit restless) 😂

[hallow mortar]

Taking someone's script, feeding it to some LLM bullshit machine, and pasting the results, is not helping. Please don't contaminate this channel with useless LLM garbage.

[limber panther]

Thank you @tender fossil 👍 I appreciate it

[pallid palm]

@cosmic kayak ```sqf
this setUnitPos "Middle";

[gleaming token]

Thanks for you words, think you'd find its the exact same.. and anyone who doesn't "trust" AI to be "efficient" probably also has Palestine flags on discord 🤣🤣

Goodbye 👋 Mr Palestine

They/them and a pally flag oops.

[pallid palm]

"trust" AI to be "efficient" are you kidding me: no way

[gleaming token]

Yeah robots and efficiency usually go together till it starts to attack you I guess...

Anything that makes something quicker, is efficient. I'm not a dictionary tho.

[pallid palm]

Ai don't know how to do ArmA scripting

[gleaming token]

So if you can't trust that that's efficient you are probably a fast typer!

I never said it does.. but It can read and rewrite... So if your script is valid it won't break it mate. Test it 😉

[pallid palm]

Ai is efficient at giving you the run around

[gleaming token]

Yeah maybe if you ask it for magic. Not perhaps to rewrite or give advice.

Guess I find that obvious!

[pallid palm]

yeah sorry m8 we don't use Ai or any chatGpt or LLM here on discord

[gleaming token]

Okay. But the point still is valid anyone who can actually read what AI says to them and perhaps check it will be more efficient using it

I get that the more it's used the better it gets... So don't use it!

[pallid palm]

my Ai is the guys here on discord: i don't trust anything else

[gleaming token]

Good point but logically it's not AI have a goodnight mate didn't mean to cause offence .

Apart from to Mr Pallyshtine who's probably enraged

[pallid palm]

im not offended

[thin fox]

@moderator pls

kick this guy

[gleaming token]

🤣 for what mate ... Is this a strict server?

[thin fox]

for beign stupid

[gleaming token]

You can't support it anyway

Your profile pic haram.

Thanks for calling me stupid!

[pallid palm]

he didnt say u are stupid he said your being stupid

[gleaming token]

Okay.

In my opinion someone who does stupid things is stupid. But yeah I must be wrong

[pallid palm]

just remember no ChatGPT or any other kinda Ai stuff on here ok m8

[gleaming token]

Yeah 👍

[pallid palm]

roger that HooWha

[gleaming token]

I ain't sticking here mate

Didn't realise Arma was filled with furries.

[thin fox]

bye

[gleaming token]

This server woke me up to that lol

Ah is that the point the mods take offence.

Lol 😂 find Jesus.

[thin fox]

another day another troll on Internet

[pallid palm]

@gleaming token easy m8 take it easy dont push it

[gleaming token]

I'm not trolling lol! They/them and pally flag is literally trolling but hey ho!

[pallid palm]

plz don't make us use the block thingy ok m8

[gleaming token]

Yeah you're right

[pallid palm]

thx m8

[thin fox]

#rules

[gleaming token]

Hope you agree tho Scotty

Your bros political views would land him in danger if he practiced them.

[pallid palm]

no one has political views on here m8

[gleaming token]

Ah I just assumed then again... Looking at the guys profile.. perhaps I shouldn't.

[thin fox]

everyone has but this is not the place to express it

[thin fox]

bye?

you're still here

[gleaming token]

Yeah joined for Arma tag

Are you a good pig or a naughty pig? 😂

[pallid palm]

dude you need to relax

[thin fox]

<@&105621371547045888> sorry to ping you, but this guy is just talking sh*t

[gleaming token]

Wtf lol seems you're the one with the agenda

I'm simply here to help others... Go read the chat lol yes I took offense to someone calling me out for simplifying repeated script with AI. I'm sorry

[young current]

@gleaming token time to step off the keyboard for a moment

[pallid palm]

@gleaming token hay m8 lisson to m8 plz im 64 so i lived some life plz relax and plz don't try so hard

[gleaming token]

Thanks for the wise advice Scotty I'm not trying to get banned by Antifa but it may happen now I have only replied to people

[young current]

I've read the chat. you wore out your welcome.

[gleaming token]

Great lol at what point

Reality is I'm trying to answer and be fair. But see it as you want

[young current]

no you been insulting people left and right

[gleaming token]

Okay if that's what you say I made 1 insulting comment which wasn't directed.

[young current]

theres many

[gleaming token]

Nah mate nothing offensive said

If I repeat someone's pronouns without adding anything and you take that as offensive that's your issue.

If I describe the community of a whole game as a type of person (obviously not true) and you take that as serious that's the same story.

[pallid palm]

ok see you m8 have a good day or night

[young current]

anyway. back to scripting

[light musk]

is anyone able to help me with a script to check is all living players from a side are present in a trigger area to fire as true?

i tired:
({alive _x} count units this) == ({_x in thisList} count units this)

i found that in a reddit post but it throws errors

[granite sky]

this isn't even valid in a trigger activation statement so I'm not sure what they were aiming for there.

[light musk]

yeah i'm really new to this and not sure what I'm doing really

[granite sky]

Any particular side?

[light musk]

blufor

its a PvE coop mission and I want the task to complete once two units rejoin at the rendevous area

[granite sky]

Count of all live players on blufor:
{alive _x and isPlayer _x} count units west

If your trigger is only counting blufor players then just {alive _x} count thisList should be the count of players in the trigger area.

For testing in the debug console you can do list myTrigger instead of thisList.

[light musk]

ok, so like this:

[granite sky]

you have no type/activation settings.

So I can't tell you what code to use.

[light musk]

so Bluefor and Present would work then with the condition more like this:

[granite sky]

Ah there's no blufor players option. I guess this then:
{alive _x and isPlayer _x} count units west == {alive _x and isPlayer _x} count thisList

[light musk]

thank you, I'll try this.

same activation and activation type?

[granite sky]

blufor/present is probably as good as you get.

Now the issue is that if you don't start with any blufor players it might just trigger immediately.

0 == 0

whether that's a problem depends how you're running your mission.

[light musk]

well there will always be atleast 1 blufor player since that is their only side

[granite sky]

It would also trigger if they all died :P

[light musk]

yeah that just uato triggered and completed when I started the mission

oh wait didn't sync them whoops

didn't see the blue line wasn't there

[granite sky]

With zero filter:

private _countBlue = {alive _x and isPlayer _x} count units west;
_countBlue > 0 and _countBlue == {alive _x and isPlayer _x} count thisList;

[light musk]

ok yeah that autocompletes at mission start since it counts all the players as dead

[manic sigil]

LimitSpeed negative on a helicopter makes it fly backwards... ironically, if I could get that on a boat that'd solve a big headache right now XD

For some reason, small vanilla boats, when forced to move backwards by setVelocityModelSpace, force a hard turn on the driver even with AI disabled.

Which leads to them spinning about and, sometimes, driving up the beach backwards.

[pallid palm]

lol wow

[warm hedge]

Excuse me, why you worry about SP being played by 30 players?

[tulip ridge]

It's the same thing, assuming you run that code on each player's own machine

E.g. like an initPlayerLocal script or something

[warm hedge]

player always returns one object

Depends. Just "player whatever 1000" will not run for everyone automatically

[fair drum]

depends on what your respawnOnStart in your description.ext is

then you're fine.

to test this yourself, you can turn off battleye, and hit play multiple times to start multiple instances of the game. no dedi server needed.

[warm hedge]

Also, you can learn one thing: LA, LE, GA, GE where BIKI states

Especially LE and GE, means "effects only the computer that runs it" or "effects on every MP clients"

[formal stirrup]

running into an interesting thing here
When using the fire command the AI seem to want to rotate their turret up as soon as they start firing, happens if they fire 1 bullet so its not recoil
Im trying to get them to just stare at a specific object and dump a mag so them rotating up is a bit troublesome
I tried a mixture of lookAt, doWatch, and doTarget but nothing seems to stop making them doing it

I've also tried disabling AI and only have WEAPONAIM enabled but that also did not work

[warm hedge]

Do you mean an unit or vehicle

If vehicle try lockCameraTo

[formal stirrup]

its a vehicle yeah, static turrets

lemme try that

[warm hedge]

Also try forceWeaponFire or BIS_fnc_fire

[formal stirrup]

well lockCameraTo seems to have fixed it

thank you very much

[granite sky]

what sort of weapon was that btw?

[formal stirrup]

Tested with a couple

base game HMG turret, rest was an assortment of OPTRE turrets

mostly the big AA guns

[ruby spoke]

they're returning as strings...

😦

[old owl]

POV reading last nights chat

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/664595285640609799/1391199838367912068/d6d6f316e98a46a2950132ba448acacd.gif

Pasting AI stuff then bringing up politics

[pallid palm]

yeah he went right to the Gen chat: and did the same thing:

[atomic niche]

Interesting angle, guess LLM's are always accurate and never make mistakes

[pallid palm]

why would any one ever use Ai crap when we have great guys in discord

[atomic niche]

Clearly gave up on thinking and had the LLM do that for him too 😂

[ivory lake]

wouldn't be the first time

[hallow mortar]

Oh I'm glad I went straight to bed after posting that message. Dealing with that guy would've ruined my whole day

[pallid palm]

yes sir i left also lol

[manic sigil]

How would you extract information from a vehicles config, in particular maxSpeed, etc?

[pallid palm]

i just use the config viewer in the esc menu of ArmA

[winter rose]

Arma*

[pallid palm]

yeah what Lou said

Hi Lou: i love you man 🙂

[manic sigil]

Yeah, but like, within a script :p

[pallid palm]

yeah you can copy that stuff out of the config viewer

[winter rose]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/configOf + other config commands 🙂

[cosmic lichen]

getNumber (configOf _veh >> yourValue)

For example.

[pallid palm]

so whats this i hear you can run 2x the game and test stuff ?

is this true

[manic sigil]

You mean, like a loopback'd server to test multiplayer with two clients?

[pallid palm]

yeah how do i do that

[cosmic lichen]

Sorry I misread

[manic sigil]

I use TADST which has a toggle for looping back the launched server, but I believe its also a value in the server config file. Just set that, then launch arma and then launch another copy through the .exe in the install location.

[pallid palm]

ahhh ok i see yes i used that before

[cosmic lichen]

https://github.com/R3voA3/3den-Enhanced/blob/master/.hemtt/server.cfg example file

[manic sigil]

Literally the example on the wiki for getNumber xD Thanks!

Id say I dont know why google couldnt parse my questions to get that page, but AI have a few hunches...

[pallid palm]

oh thats cool @cosmic lichen

[old owl]

There was like an entire month the Wiki didn't even show up in Google search results- I imagine due to integration of their LLM. I don't know why all these companies have to integrate AI for everything now

[winter rose]

it might have been due to CloudFlare "bot control" that prevented Google to access/reference pages
now fixeded hopefully

[still forum]

Also our bot protection on wiki, should effectively prevent any LLM learning setup from reading it and learning from it.
Not sure if thats a good thing

[somber silo]

Hey all, working on the dismemberment mod for arma 3.

I had some questions about effects for you guys, particularly in particles vs objects.

Currently, for the head explosion mechanic, I am spawning various different items (Such as skull, brains, etc)

I am spawning each particle in a for loop, creating an emitter object for each"

IE { _emitter = createVehicleLocal ["#particlesource", _pos, [], 0, "CAN_COLLIDE"]; _emitter setParticleParams [ [_x, 1, 0, 1], // shape name other particle code here ]; _emitter setDropInterval 6000; } forEach _objectstospawn;

Am I utilizing the particle system correclty here, or is this ill advised?

Would it be better to just create a physx object for each object instead?

Thanks in advance

[winter rose]

Am I utilizing the particle system correclty here, or is this ill advised?
if you are creating one emitter for every particle, yes
otherwise no 😄

[somber silo]

Thats what im thinking, Im not sure if an emitter for each one is the best - I cant drop because each particle is different.

But the simulation is more efficient for particles no? vs fully simulated physx object?

[winter rose]

hold on, hold on.
the above code - what is in _goreItems?

[somber silo]

Just an array containing the paths to the 3d objects

[winter rose]

so for each models, create one emitter that shoots 1 drop every 6000s?

[somber silo]

Yes basically the emitter only drops one particle each

the emitter gets deleted long before the 6000s

I am going to change it to physx objects instead, see if that gives me good performance

[warm hedge]

It is actually making not much of sense. Please post the entire context

[winter rose]

if you have duplicates in _goreItems, better configure one emitter properly to generate them all dupes

[somber silo]

Yes but they are all unique shapes

[warm hedge]

In the first place, there is a command to drop ONE particle each execution: drop

[somber silo]

Ah - I saw that while browsing the wiki recently. Is this more efficient than an emitter?

[warm hedge]

It is not about efficiation. It is about dropping one particle

Well, it is efficient than your code anyways, though

[somber silo]

Would that be better than say, spawning a physx simulated object for each instead of a particle?

[warm hedge]

That is absurdly bad

[winter rose]

here you create one emitter for one drop, it's faster to just drop directly

[tough abyss]

I have a framework with a text message system which uses the hint system to display messages to other players. Our players will have an option to "build" a PC by combining virtual items, and exchanging them to an admin, to have a prop computer placed in the player's home. This feature is to offer "online shopping" from home.

Our team wants to add an "email" system, to the same, where a player uses the same basic feature, but can check the message from the addAction in the prop, at their leisure. I got some help here starting script for an online market (player to player virtual buy/sell/trade shop). Am I looking at the same process basically?

So far the gist is, use a scripted database, profileNamespace, info to JSON, store, and reverse functions. I know that is extremely watered down. Just seeing if I am in the ballpark.

[winter rose]

…what is the question here?

[tough abyss]

I apologize, brain injury from time in the army, makes cognition rough.

To make an email system, from an existing text message system, would this be the basic flow of the scripting?

Scripted database > profileNamespace > info to JSON, store > and reverse functions.

[still forum]

Man I would have so much fun developing life stuff if I had the time for it 😄
I'd build a whole computer and phone. Multiple apps, E-Mail addresses, phone number with calls, SMS, maps, online banking. So much fun 😄

[tough abyss]

Haha, if only there were more time in the day. Real life makes it tricky.

[still forum]

I don't see how E-Mail is different from "text message system" which you already have.
On the backend side (assuming you store text messages) to me it sounds like its the exact same thing

[tough abyss]

There is my question! The messages are not stored, they are only displayed in game if players are present. So, that is why I was assuming the above steps from the virtual market project.

[still forum]

Ah then yes.
Server has a database (hashmap) that stores every players inbox. Which is saved to profileNamespace.

When player sends mail, it tells server, server puts into receivers inbox.
When player receives mail, it asks server for inbox list, server grabs inbox list and sends it back

[tough abyss]

Perfect! My brain is clinical mush 60% of the time, but I will get to it the other 40%, lol.

[old owl]

If you don't mind me asking (just curious)- how come you you're not sure it's a good thing? Are you afraid it'll lead people using it as a learning resource farther astray? Or do you think AI assistance in code production is still sort of the way of the future so to speak? Or am I entirely off base and your thoughts are something else?

[still forum]

I think it would be good if AI can learn from the wiki to produce better SQF code

[old owl]

Ah okay, totally understandable. More avoided instances of stuff like setFOV haha 🙂

[ruby spoke]

nvm found a workaround

[old owl]

Also don't wanna blow up poor Dedmen's mentions but since I saw the topic of life stuff being brought up. The life framework for Arma was initially what got me into Arma 3 and writing SQF. Genuinely such a blast- a lot of fun stuff you can make and do. This was my most recent large project I am pretty proud of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3jalH8sIP4

One thing I did wanna add is a form of instant messaging, which would have read receipts and even an indicator to show when another player is typing. Only thing that really holds me back from doing stuff like that is just that with our mission having existed for 10+ years, there is also a lot of older and more interesting written code that can make reworking things a little daunting sometimes. I am not an SWE or anything IRL but I imagine that kinda just goes for any project lol.

[granite sky]

Half my bugfix PRs for Antistasi these days end up being refactors as well :P

At some point you gotta stop stacking up the trash.

[still forum]

Me be like "Hey I could spend some time working on this old project"
Me then: spends days just refactoring and not really changing anything meaningful
Me after: "Okey I've spent enough time on this project, time to switch to something else"

[old owl]

That's cool you work on Antistasi- I didn't know that! I have played a little bit of it with friends from time to time and had a blast. Since I work on life framework stuff, we pretty much never do anything AI related but think I remember saying to you a while ago I got a lot of respect for you guys who know AI stuff really well the way you guys do. Seems like magic to me haha

[granite sky]

Arma AI is sadly pretty close to magic. If you follow certain arcane orthodoxy then it usually works out. If you stray then you open a portal to hell.

Too many layers of broken shit between your code and the results. There are paths that work but a lot of non-obvious and undocumented ways to screw up.

[old owl]

We definitely go through our lapses of that hahaha- typically what @dusk gust does after a couple of beers . Even if it isn't really changing anything the user notices- it sure keeps the rest of us saner for it 😄

[hallow mortar]

I disagree. Studies have shown that LLMs are fundamentally incapable of not hallucinating even with perfect sources. I don't see any place for that in fact-based work, especially in a context that already has enough human-generated dodgy ideas. I'm absolutely fine with LLMs being excluded from SQF.

[granite sky]

I don't think they're great at learning from documentation anyway because they lack comprehension. Forum answers and github repos are more useful for them.

[tough abyss]

Great work! The script is cool, but that dialog is really slick, too.

[old owl]

Thank you 🙂!!!

[fair drum]

Which is super dangerous. Most good code is private. And forum posts... Well that's self explanatory...

[granite sky]

Arguable whether it's more dangerous when the code is obviously or non-obviously wrong. I consider it a good thing that LLMs are so bad at SQF that they usually make it obvious.

[formal grail]

Copilot's made my sqf coding like 50x faster, and now with inserts, it frequently catches very trivial errors for me (like syntax issues or forgetting an underscore here or there). This is made more important by the fact that sqf language tools in vscode generally don't have semantic tying info and won't catch/autocomplete those. It hallucinates scripts from time to time but I just press escape and move on.

[granite sky]

Once you get used to the language you don't make a lot of syntax errors. I think the worst one is where you miss an underscore in an if statement and Arma just ignores it.

Syntax checking is probably the best use for the things though. LLMs get syntax.

[formal grail]

I've coded in C-like languages for 15 years, and without an IDE that does it for me or catches it with squiggly lines, I'll still forget a semicolon at least once every 10 minutes of heads down coding.
In arma 3 that's catastrophic for productivity because the sqf vscode extensions don't catch it and because that's a 20-30 second issue to fix at least, more if it's a mp test. And that's just semicolons. There's the forgotten underscores. Brackets/paran (at least this one gets caught by my IDE without copilot). The typos. The forgotten parameters inside spawns/event handlers. Being able to read my mind and make formats for text. All adds up.
And then there's the tedium like:
private _whateverX = ...
Ok, now it can do _whateverY by itself.
Another is annoying vector math, though that one I usually take outside my IDE to chat gpt which will hallucinate 80% of the sqf commands and syntax but once I put it next to my code, copilot will automatically translate it nicely because its context field includes my last touched files.

[buoyant hound]

Hey i need an example for a truck spawn then go to first waypoint wait 5second then move to last waypoint and got delete

Am try to know the statements part of waypoint so i need better examples to know it

[austere granite]

@ruby spoke you just want to put "items1, "item2" in that array. Then go through the items[] array and use config to format config path from the array elements.

[ruby spoke]

What I did was just put the class names of "item1", "item2" in the array. So all i have to do to get the data is run BIS_fnc_getCfgData on the selected array element.

Don't know why I didn't think of it before.

[grand oracle]

Can you put a hyperlink in a hintc ?

[modern plank]

When we do a "createUnit", is there any recommended check to be done before the unit is actually ready?
Something like:

_unit = _group createUnit[_class, _pos, [], 0, "NONE"];
waitUntil { not isNull _unit };

Maybe another test than not null ?

[cosmic lichen]

No

The unit should never be null immediately except you provide a wrong class name .

But then the check would run indefinitely and break anyway.

[modern plank]

Ok, so the created unit is immediately avail. and "usable", no need to wait like for a player.

[pallid palm]

@formal grail stop useing big words i don't understand lol "hallucinate" 🙂 joke lol

@grand oracle hintC shows up on your schreen right

[pallid palm]

@grand oracle hyperlink is mostly used to link map markers imho

[austere granite]

Yeah that's how you're supposed to do it 😃

[flint topaz]

You can replace entire functions ingame in arma 3, I use advanced developer tools mod and just soft work ingame if doing fast iterations. So I never even have to close the game to test my fixes etc.

Then for larger changes will then do restarts, then move back to ingame for small fixes

Advantage is ADT has syntax highlighting and even undefined variable detection due to being live.

[tulip ridge]

You can recompile functions without restarting

Personally I use hemtt with filepatching, it's got some fairly advanced linting and will catch a lot

[thin fox]

in ADT?

[tulip ridge]

In general

Vanilla and CBA's function setup can both recompile

That's unrelated to ADT

[errant jasper]

And function in variables can also just be overwritten

[thin fox]

ah makes sense

[tulip ridge]

Assuming they're not compileFinal'd, yes.
For vanilla, just setting recompile = 1 will allow recompiling via BIS_fnc_recompile.

In personal experience (though I don't use vanilla's at all anymore), it's rather slow to use the default parameters so I would recompile specific functions rather than "everything" (which was still only the ones I was manually doing).

I've just use CBA's PREP ever since I switched to hemtt, much nicer to work with imo

[sharp grotto]

For developing you can also do that without the function libary.

{
    // missionNamespace setVariable [(_x #0), compileScript [_x #1]]; // protected against overwriting - for the live build.
    missionNamespace setVariable [(_x #0), compile preprocessFileLineNumbers (_x #1)]; // For developing - not protected!
    
} forEach
[
    ["fnc_abc1","fnc_abc1.sqf"]
];

Then you can just edit the SQF files and execute it again to recompile the functions.

[manic sigil]

Alright, digging through the config files didn't leap out at me; is there a way to Get how long a vehicle is? Bounding box dimensions, anything?

[cosmic lichen]

Not in config. But there are commands for it.

[manic sigil]

Yeah, should have figured, I assumed it was more AI delusions since no proper links showed up T_T

sizeOf should do fine, I think.

Eh, 90% accurate. Good enough for what I need.

[cosmic lichen]

why not use the bounding box?

[manic sigil]

I just need a roughly scaled multiplier for how far back to send boats after they drop troops off.

Or rather, how far back to make them back up, before giving them back control to turn around and drive off

[hasty gale]

Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, but does anyone know if there is a way to play around with the aiming deadzone in arma 3? What I mean by that is if it's possible to get or set the offset from the weapon deadzone? Sorry if I'm not clear, but basically when you enable deadzone to the max, you can move your character's upper body independently similar to holding alt while aiming down the sights. Is it possible in any way to get control over this via modding?

[winter rose]

you can set it in the options, but not through scripting.

[thin fox]

AI be like: setDeadzone

[tough trout]

I've been having issues with a script. I'm trying to create an "extraction beacon" scenario where players can execute a hold-action on one of several beacons and it will produce 3 outcomes:

1. A hint telling players that an extraction beacon has been activated (this part works)
2. Move an invisible item labeled "LZ_Marker" to the same position as "Exfil_X" which is a landing zone near each beacon (This should work but doesn't)
3. Create a map marker to show players which beacon was activated (This I have no idea how to make what I have work)

Here's what I have for code (It's inside the activation of a Hold Action):

LZ_MARKER setPos [getPos Exfil_2];
 "Safety can be found at the Outpost!" remoteExec ["hint"];
 private "_mkr";
 _mkr = createMarker ["outpost_marker", getPos _target];
    _mkr setMarkerShape "ICON";
    _mkr setMarkerType "mil_dot";
    _mkr setMarkerColor "ColorBlue";
    _mkr setMarkerText "Outpost";

[hallow mortar]

You should use one set of getPosASL/setPosASL, getPosATL/setPosATL rather than getPos/setPos. getPos and setPos are slower and don't actually use the same type of coordinates as each other.

Now for things that might actually be the issue: What is contained in the variable Exfil_2? Object, marker...? If it's a marker you'll need to use getMarkerPos instead.

[tough trout]

It's a landing pad

And LZ_Marker is an invisible helipad

[hallow mortar]

Your syntax here is wrong:

LZ_MARKER setPos [getPos Exfil_2];```
Leaving aside which position commands are being used, what you're doing here is creating an array _containing a coordinates array_, which is not what `setPos` expects to receive.
Let's say `exfil_2` is located at coordinates `[10, 10, 0]`. If you do this:
```sqf
[getPos Exfil_2];```
Then the end result is `[[10, 10, 0]]` - an array inside an array. `setPos` and its counterparts expect to receive _just an array_, e.g. `[10, 10, 0]`.

[tough trout]

So if I were to define _exfil as a private variable, would this work?

_exfil = getPosATL Exfil_2;
LZ_MARKER setPosATL _exfil;

[hallow mortar]

It would work, but you don't have to use a private variable. (It's handy to do so if you want to use that position again in the script, so you don't have to get it again, but not required to make it work.) You just have to not add the extra [].

(btw it's not a private variable unless you use private or params. A leading underscore makes it local scope, but not private. https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Variables#Scopes)

[tough trout]

Well, that solved most of that problem, but now the helipad duplicates and the one with the variable name LZ_Marker goes to the debug corner

[tough trout]

I am aware, I just didn't want to re-type all the code just yet

[hallow mortar]

For more compact privating, you can use private as part of the initial assignment of the variable, rather than needing a separate thing for private "_myVar";. See private syntax 3

[hallow mortar]

The script you've posted doesn't create any new helipads, so you have something else going on if there's duplication

[tough trout]

It may be the actual exfil script. I'll post it here in a second

Actually, I found it almost immediately, the original version of the exfil script was when LZ_Marker was still a marker

Now the heli lands in the right spot, but then it takes off immediately.

private ["_lzPos","_spawnPos"];


_lzPos = getPosATL LZ_MARKER;

// Spawn extract
_spawnPos = _lzPos getPos [3000, 135]; // 2 km SE
_spawnPos set [2, 750];
EXTRACT = createVehicle ["B_Heli_Transport_03_F", _spawnPos, [], 0, "FLY"];
createVehicleCrew EXTRACT;

EXTRACT flyInHeight 75;
EXTRACT move _lzPos;

waitUntil {sleep 5; EXTRACT distance _lzPos < 200};

// Land
EXTRACT land "GET IN";

// Wait until all players on board
waitUntil {sleep 10; {alive _x && _x in EXTRACT} count allPlayers == {alive _x} count allPlayers};

// Take off
EXTRACT flyInHeight 100;
EXTRACT move (_lzPos getPos [1000, 270]); // fly west

// Music cue
playMusic "Mephistos_Lullaby";

sleep 60;

// Fail state
EXTRACT setDamage 0.7;
EXTRACT setFuel 0;

waitUntil {sleep 5; (getPosATL EXTRACT select 2) < 50};

// Trigger outro
[] execVM "outro.sqf";

[hallow mortar]

You might want to restrict the crew's AI by setting them to Careless or using disableAI, otherwise they might get spooked by reported contacts and try to leave.
It's also possible that because of using the "GET IN" landing type, it's checking to see if it has any synced waypoints of units that want to get in, seeing there are none, and immediately deciding its job is done and leaving. You could try using syntax 3 of landAt to set a wait time instead.

[tough trout]

I need it to avoid taking off until all players are on board. It's meant to be a cinematic failed extract

[hallow mortar]

Well, you can just set a super long wait time, then cancel it with landAt mode "None" when all the players are aboard

[tough trout]

Threw an error and wouldn't land

[hallow mortar]

Well, I don't know what you actually did, so 🤷

[tough trout]

Replaced
EXTRACT land "GET IN"; with EXTRACT landAt _lzPos;

[hallow mortar]

Well, that's not a valid syntax for landAt, so not too surprising

[tough trout]

So, rather than being condescending let's try helpful

[hallow mortar]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/landAt
We're looking at syntax 3: heli landAt [position, mode, waitTime, putOnSurface]

heli is obviously EXTRACT. Then on the right side we have an array of parameters. position is presumably _lzPos. mode, I would imagine, is "GET IN". For waitTime, we could try something like 999999999 since we're not expecting it to run in full; it will be manually cancelled. putOnSurface doesn't matter too much if the LZ position is accurate, so we can omit it or just go with true.

[waxen edge]

Hey everyone, I'm trying to make a self/emergency revive script that works with the default revive system. I managed to get the below to work, except upon revive the player cannot scroll through the action menu. It took me forever to figure this out and I can't find a next step, any idea what to change? ["#rev", 1, player] call BIS_fun_reviveOnState; player setVariable ["BIS_revive_incapacitated", false, true]; player setVariable ["#rev_state", 1]; //stops #rev_bleed from coutning up, removes greyscale player setDamage 0; //heals player setUnconscious false; //makes player getup

[hallow mortar]

When it's time for the helo to lift off again, we can cancel the wait mode by doing it again but using mode "None" and skipping everything after that.

[hallow mortar]

BIS_fun_reviveOnState should probably be BIS_fnc_reviveOnState

[waxen edge]

Embarrassing, thanks, tried it again but no action menu still

[tough trout]

Got it working. Now I just need to improve a few other details.

[finite bone]

What is the best way to rewrite this statement? I get that hemtt is suggesting configOf but it only returns the path not the display name...

warning[L-S30]: Use configOf instead of typeOf with configFile for variable `_x`
   ┌─ addons/main/functions/fn_addNewObject.sqf:15:77
   │
15 │         private _newObject = _x getVariable ["PEPE_CustomObject", getText (configFile >> "CfgVehicles" >> typeOf _x >> "displayName")];
   │                                                                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ use configOf
   │
   = try: configOf _x

[hallow mortar]

getText (configOf _x >> "displayName")```

[winter rose]

we help scripting here 😉

[oak loom]

thx

ill move it

[agile pumice]

Can someone tell me why the trigger I placed down is showing as "no shape" even though I assigned a and b values for its size?

[indigo snow]

negative values?

[glossy matrix]

Does anyone know how to set banking degrees on a camera object? On wiki someone said setVectorUp command can be used for this purpose, but I tried _camera setVectorUp [1 * (sin _bank), 0, 1 * (cos _bank)], nothing happens with the camera.

[warm fern]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/BIS_fnc_setPitchBank

[glossy matrix]

I tried [_camera, 0, _bank] call BIS_fnc_setPitchBank, still nothing happens

BTW I'm on arma 2 oa, does this command only work on arma 3?

[warm fern]

i tried only in a3

[warm hedge]

BIS_fnc_setPitchBank is an A2 function

You sure you use the right camera or number to set

[agile pumice]

not sure, but I was able to use triggerArea with it so i guess its of no concern

[glossy matrix]

_camera is initialized by calling "camera" camCreate [0, 0, 0], so it should be the right object, _bank's value seems valid as well.

[warm hedge]

Post the entire code

[glossy matrix]

I tried my best to come up with this minimal example

_playerDir = ((getdir player)-90)*-1;
_playerPos = getPosASL player;

_cameraAngle = INIT_CAM_ANGLE;
_cameraDir = [ cos(_playerDir+180) * INIT_CAM_DIS_Y, sin(_playerDir+180) * INIT_CAM_DIS_Y, INIT_CAM_DIS_Z ];
_cameraPos = [ (_playerPos select 0) + (_cameraDir select 0), (_playerPos select 1) + (_cameraDir select 1), (_playerPos select 2) + (_cameraDir select 2)];

_camera = "camera" camCreate [0.0,0.0,0.0];
_camera setPosASL [_cameraPos select 0, _cameraPos select 1, _cameraPos select 2];
_camera camSetTarget [ (_cameraPos select 0) + (cos _playerDir) * (cos _cameraAngle) * 100000.0, (_cameraPos select 1) + (sin _playerDir) * (cos _cameraAngle) * 100000.0, (_cameraPos select 2) + (sin _cameraAngle) * 100000.0];
_camera camCommit 0;

while {true} do
{
    // Some other stuff.
    _bank = _bank + 0.01;
    [_camera, 0, _acbank] call BIS_fnc_setPitchBank;
};

I'm modifying GCam 2, the entire script is nearly 4k lines long

[warm hedge]

You sure it is about GCam 2 or your code? Does your code work on its own?

[glossy matrix]

No I'm not saying it's about GCam 2, GCam 2's code works, just mine doesn't. I'm mentioning it because posting the entire 4k lines of code is simply not viable.

[warm hedge]

No I'm not saying that. Are you sure your code being broken or injecting your code is

[glossy matrix]

Let me try executing my code in mission editor

[warm hedge]

Didn't you do that yet?

[still forum]

It is showing you where you should use it, with the errors.
Note the errors stop before the >> displayName

[glossy matrix]

Sorry I only started learning about arma modding yesterday.
In mission editor it shows this error:

'[_camera, 0, -45] call |#|BIS_fnc_setPitchBank'
Error Undefined variable in expression: bis_fnc_setpitchbank

The script is this:

titlecut [" ","BLACK IN",1]
_camera = "camera" camcreate [0,0,0]
_camera cameraeffect ["internal", "back"]

;=== 14:51:29
_camera camPrepareTarget [-55102.08,84473.38,19.82]
_camera camPreparePos [3724.91,3606.90,0.45]
_camera camPrepareFOV 0.500
[_camera, 0, -45] call BIS_fnc_setPitchBank
_camera camCommitPrepared 0
@camCommitted _camera

~30

_camera cameraeffect ["terminate","back"]
camdestroy _camera
end1=true;
exit;

[warm hedge]

I just recalled you need a Functions module in Editor

[still forum]

@camCommitted _camera
Wuht, is that SQS?

[mellow scroll]

Question - I have a medic script that works quite well - until the squad is at a STOP from a vanilla STOP command. What is the trick to release just the medic to treat wounded? I've tried everything I can think of - I can't get the Medic to leave his STOP spot.

[glossy matrix]

I was just throwing what can work in the mission editor, don't quite know the difference between sqs and sqf😂

[winter rose]

pls add Eden support 😂

[zinc loom]

hi, im a newbie with some little skils in sqf, im working on an arma3 project with extDB3, and i need some kind of help how to use it properly,

[pallid palm]

what's extDB3

[zinc loom]

some old stuff, invented probably by turning himself

[pallid palm]

so its like a config file ?

[zinc loom]

arma 3 has no persisntent saving , so extDB3 is a module that gives u kinda this ability, it gives u the chanse to send data into a database and request it

[pallid palm]

ahh i see

[tender fossil]

You can make a scripted database in Arma 3 nowadays though

[zinc loom]

?! tell me more 🙂

[tender fossil]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Scripted_Database

[zinc loom]

hm, like saving stuff in xml and loading it at restart ?

[tender fossil]

Hmm, is that deprecated info now?

[still forum]

arma 3 has no persisntent saving
It does.
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/saveProfileNamespace
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/saveMissionProfileNamespace

[still forum]

It has a info tag right at the top.
You really shouldn't use that system. Building your own with Hashmaps is more efficient

[tender fossil]

Was just typing that HashMaps are probably the way to go 😄

Well yeah, could've linked their page directly indeed

[pallid palm]

@glossy matrix

//.sqs is Very old:
.sqs - uses  goto

.sqf - uses while { } do { };
//and many other kinds

//i remember useing sqs way back in OFP :)

//sqs -  goto - is kinda like CNC machining M99 and m98
//where you can jump to diff parts of a script or looping as it were

//i find .sqf way nicer then sqs

//Ex 1  sqs ===================================================
if (!isServer) exitWith {};

_grp = group (_this select 0);
_range = _this select 1;
_delay = _this select 2;
_ranX = 1;
_ranY = 1;

_origPos = (getPos Player);

#patrol_again
_origPos = (getPos Player);
{_x setBehaviour "AWARE"} forEach units _grp

?(random 1) < 0.5: _ranX = -1
?(random 1) < 0.5: _ranY = -1
xx = random _range * _ranX
yy = random _range * _ranY

units _grp commandMove [(_origPos select 0) + xx, (_origPos select 1) + yy];

{_x setBehaviour "Safe"} forEach units _grp
~_delay

goto "patrol_again"

//Ex2 sqf =========================================================
//here how to exec-- [leader _grp, 100, 10] execVM "Randpatrol.sqf";
//==================================================================
if (!isServer) exitWith {};
sleep 0.5;

// Setting variables
_grp = _this select 0;
_range = _this select 1;
_wtime = if (count _this > 2) then {_this select 2} else {10};
if (_wtime < 0) then {_wtime = 10}; 
_timeout = 0;
_ranX = 1;
_ranY = 1;

// getPos (leader _grp);
_origPos = getPos (leader _grp);

// Have the units patrol
while {{alive _x} count (units _grp)  > 0} do
{
    {_x setBehaviour "AWARE"} forEach units _grp;

    if ((random 1) < 0.5) then {_ranX = -1};
    if ((random 1) < 0.5) then {_ranY = -1};

    xx = random _range * _ranX;
    yy = random _range * _ranY;

    units _grp commandMove [(_origPos select 0) + xx, (_origPos select 1) + yy];
    {_x setBehaviour "Safe"} forEach units _grp;
    If (!alive _grp) exitWith {};

    _timeout = time + 10;
    waitUntil {moveToCompleted (leader _grp) or _timeout < time};
};

[zinc loom]

so you say its better to make a sisytem with namespace then extDB3 ?

using steamid as name of variable ?!:) and set giant string in it ?

sounds doable

[pallid palm]

or missionNameSpace

well i really dont make systems i just make missions

[zinc loom]

cool are u interested in teaching a noob how to do so :)?

[pallid palm]

it would take like 10 years to do so

[errant jasper]

Pretty sure you need one of teh namespaces with profile in them. So no I would not use missionNameSpace. Like dedmen says above

[pallid palm]

what i could do is send you 1 of my missions: and you could rip it apart and see what i have done: and that would be a good start for your learning

[zinc loom]

i need just some independeds patrol around in defined areas , they hate blue and red 🙂

[pallid palm]

i gave 2 exsamples up there look up

2ed one is sqf

[winter rose]

let's obsolete https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Scripted_Database and redirect to those instead?

[cosmic lichen]

Its been a while since I've seen sqs code

[sharp grotto]

small private server and not many players = profileNameSpace is fine
Open public server with many players and much data = extDB3

[old owl]

I think just kinda depends on what your servers constraints are and what you're also intending to store.

Using a hashmap on server would be far easier to setup and would be more efficient in saving data.

With ExtDB3 you are able to organize data better and even use it within other applications like web apps. The draw side is just that it is really old and slow, so if you were to use it; I would advise caching data and only using it to update that cached data very sparingly and infrequently.

[winter rose]

@not alive player

[old owl]

We store our information in a database but we also have a crap ton of players. Realistically for smaller missions and servers using hashmap methods would be far more efficient, easier to deal with syncing wise and is entirely appropriate

[zinc loom]

its like combo altis life and exile so stuff is on the ground ... permanent

like its a lot of stuff to save, lot of things, im right now checking how to save that in missionNameSpace, and how loong can a variable be ?

[pallid palm]

@not alive player yeah Lou that = waitUntil not alive player in sqs

[zinc loom]

i want every weapon car etc to be unique, having stored owner permanent even if owner is not online etc

[still forum]

Putting a obsolete banner on top.
I guess the page is still useful for people who want to uset he old obsolete stuff

[old owl]

If you're planning for the server to be a larger multiplayer environment you will probably want ExtDB3. I would just use it super sparingly. For example cache weapons, cars and everything else you mentioned in a hashmap on server then only update database with that data on periodic intervals or even server restart.

[still forum]

There is also Intercept Database by the way. Which last I heard still works. But no-one is maintaining it except it fully breaks 😄
It is not old and not slow (excluding the database speed side)

[still forum]

As a total noob it's probably not a good idea to start right in with a big database system.
And its unlikely you'll find someone who has the time to hold your hand all the way

[zinc loom]

well thats the only way i know how to organiose data 🙂 and thats working well atm, im stuck with stuff klike async calls

[errant jasper]

But if you are gonna dump non-small amounts of data regularly be sure to use the missionProfileNameSpace and not just profileNameSpace.. Had enough of missions ballooning that to 50MB and then writing it several times per minute...

[old owl]

Honestly also very good point

[sharp grotto]

and stuff like "weapon having stored owner permanent" wont work, most items have no unique ID.

[pallid palm]

every time i type something i say to myself w8: could this be mistaken for being mean 🙂

then i start over 🙂

[old owl]

On my phone so can't fact check myself but didn't Arma also add something to support HTTP requests? Could that be used as a better alternative to stuff like ExtDB3 if I'm correct about it existing? Maybe I am thinking of a reforger framework

[zinc loom]

i apologize if it sounds like i neeed someone to hold my hand, i have chat gpt for that, i just looking for some infos on how to tackle the project, which i recived, ty

[still forum]

Reforger has it, Arma doesn't.
Though there are plenty of Extensions that do it. And Arma 3 will probably also do it some time in the future.

[old owl]

Ah okay cheers :)

[pallid palm]

omg chatGPT omg Nooo there gos your learning

soon people will get chat GPT to ride there bikes for them

i like the way Nikko does it: he gives me hell: and teaches me to understand all at the same time 🙂

[winter rose]

yes, my point
not deleting anything, just make it even more obvious

[mellow wasp]

what's the script command to detect when an entire group has boarded a heli? I want to make it so that when the player and all their units board a heli, a trigger detects it and can skip the hold waypoint to begin the assault

[pallid palm]

@mellow wasp well there is no command per say: for the player and all their units board a heli: but i order all my team in the chopper: then i get in: i use this for the script to check if all players are in the chopper: ```sqf
waitUntil {sleep 3; (Helo2 emptyPositions "CARGO" == 0) or (!alive Helo2 or !canMove Helo2 or !alive Pilot2) or ({(isPlayer _x) && (isNull objectParent _x) && (alive _x)} Count (nearestObjects [Helo2, ["CAMANBase"], 300]) == 0)};

i made a complete Chopper Command if you wold like to have it: just friend me: and ill send you a demo mission

it uses no way points and all is run by radio triggers so it can be called in game at any time

@mellow wasp and if you want i'll even get on voice and explan the entire missions and how it all works 🙂

it was very importante to me for the chopper to work perfect: in my missions so well you know: i worked on it and ask for help all day long: every day: and woohoo now its Awsome 🙂

Dart is the guy that helped me the most: on my chopper command hes Awsome: but other people helped me also

[winter rose]

waitUntil { units _playerGroup findIf { not (_x in _helicopter) } == -1 };

[pallid palm]

that will work also 🙂

i needed all the checks in mine 🙂

[zinc loom]

question: can i still getVariable on a player if i try it in onPLayerDisconected {}

[granite sky]

yes, because the unit still exists.

Whether it's a player at that point is another matter, but the variables will still be there.

[pallid palm]

i can just explane in the brifeing that the time showing is false and the time in the params can be chesen

like this```sqf
player createDiaryRecord ["Diary",["Multiplayer Log","Make Sure Parameters Are Set The Way You Want"]];
player createDiaryRecord ["Diary",["Multiplayer Log","<------Check The Log Over There"]];

that's what iv been doing anyway

[mellow scroll]

For the record - it looks like you can't emulate what you do with the keyboard in a script - every path fails and the STOP is reinstituted as soon as you try to order a move on a single unit in a stopped squad. Work around - have the medic leave the group to do his work - then rejoin when done.

[granite sky]

Ah yeah, Leopard suggested that last time and I never got around to testing it. Didn't find any other way to override a player's stop command.

[pallid palm]

i'm not sure i understand what you guys are talking about ? but i can order my team to stop and then point at the medic or any other guy and hit enter; and order that soldier to move or whatever : can you explan to me what you guys mean ?

oh w8 you said players stop command hmmm