arma3_scripting

[grizzled cliff]

nevermind, ima go cry in my sleep because BI has broken shit.

:(

[ivory locust]

@still forum The wrappers for Triggers don't seem to work properly in Intercept

This trigger will be created but the activation will not be registered

It seems to correctly evaluate the condition every .5 seconds, but this will never evaluate true, at least as much as I was able to test it. Overall the behavior is just unusual

[proven charm]

what does setCombatBehaviour do for group and how its different from being used for units?

[modern meteor]

How can I get the coordinates of the location where the player's crosshair is currently pointing at?

[proven charm]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/screenToWorld

[thorn saffron]

Can I have macros in mission based functions? ie. functions that are in the mission folder.

[warm hedge]

Yes

Not sure what Macro you mean, but still yes

[thorn saffron]

I basically want to define a custom macro for a bit of code that I keep reusing, but I dont want to turn it into a full function.

[warm hedge]

There is actually almost no downside to make it into a function, but you can always use #define and #include and others

[thorn saffron]

Its just about verbosity.

[modern meteor]

Thank you but it looks like that screenToWorl does not return an Array which could be used as coordinates for a missile strike. I am looking for a way to give the missile the coordinates of my crosshair but don't want to use a laser designator.

[proven charm]

wiki says it gives "world position on surface [x,y,0]"

[modern meteor]

This gives the coordinates of the laser designator:

_primaryTarget = lasertarget _player;

But I am now looking for a way to assign the coordinates without a laser designator.

[modern meteor]

But it does not work

[proven charm]

how so?

[modern meteor]

lasertarget and screetoworld return different things

does not work to guide a missile

[proven charm]

oh you need to create the laser target via script then

[modern meteor]

but how?

[proven charm]

copy from my code: _pos = screenToWorld [0.5, 0.5]; _laser = "LaserTargetE" createvehicle _pos; _laser setPosATL _pos;

use different LaserTargetX for each side

[modern meteor]

sorry, i am confused

this returns the coordinates of the player's crosshair to guide a missile?

[proven charm]

yes

i updated the code

[modern meteor]

Thanks, this works perfect!

[lusty hollow]

Is there a way to get info about target selected on sensors screen?

[jagged mica]

I don't know if it's the right channel, but I've recently made a quick video on multiplayer scripting and even though it's barely scratching the surface, maybe it'll shed some light
https://youtu.be/-hz0SoS95VY

[winter rose]

it's not exactly "the good channel" but please keep it here
you said that https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Multiplayer_Scripting was explaining things pretty well, so flattery earned you a spot 😁

[meager granite]

Nice video. Sure it doesn't cover a lot of things, but might be an okay introduction to people who have little understanding about how multiplayer games work and Arma specifically.

Should've also mentioned turret locality and that it behaves differently to vehicle locality

Weapon/magazine changes on vehicles are one of the most popular changes people do with scripting and its pretty frustrating if you don't understand locality.

[shut reef]

DiaryParser: <br/> without corresponding <br>

I'm getting this from using <br /> in creation/setting of diary records

The wiki does not mention anything of that sort. Is that just an overeager log message?
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/createDiaryRecord

[meager granite]

Try <br/>?

[shut reef]

same

Even literally putting <br><br/> did not calm it

[hallow mortar]

I regularly use <br/> on its own in diary records without any trouble

[shut reef]

Even if you run the game with the script error flag?

[hallow mortar]

Yes. Trust me, we're talking hundreds of missions over several years, no problems

[shut reef]

🤷‍♀️

[winter rose]

so no <br/> <br /> <br> work

[winter rose]

it would be <br></br>

Is that just an overeager log message?
then most likely, unless you find cases where it doesn't trigger

[jagged mica]

I actually didn't realize that, but it makes a lot of sense now that you mentioned it

[shut reef]

It's even more odd. I found a place where I had accidentally used </br>, but that was in loca table, so </br>
That seems to have been the thing it reacted to, cause since fixing that I don't seem to get the message anymore, no matter what combinations I used outside of the loca table.
gonna restart it one more time with that in the loca, just to make sure.

[winter rose]

heh, weird message but "accurate" warning

[proven charm]

are you using composeText for the diary record?

[shut reef]

yeah, also kinda weird that it only seems to care when it comes from a loca string and not when it is directly in sqf

[shut reef]

Na

[proven charm]

i thought it was a must

[shut reef]

No, it has its own parser (the very one that is complaining)

[shut reef]

See here, it has slightly different tags to e.g. parseText

[shut reef]

okay, can confirm it, it only complains about </br> when it's in the stringtable.

Is that worth a comment in the wiki, does anyone care to fix this or will it just be left for the next person to marvel in that rare case?

[winter rose]

maybe a note in the RPT thing

[proven charm]

whats the diffrence between setCombatBehaviour group and unit? I just want the tanks to drive on road with "CARELESS" but im unsure if I need the group version of the command

also wondering setBehaviourStrong, why so many commands 🤔

[warm hedge]

Twenty years worth of SQF commands 👀

[kindred zephyr]

groups rule over unit behaviour, strong behaviour rules over group

[proven charm]

i dont understand , if I use setCombatBehaviour for tank, will group override that?

[kindred zephyr]

yes

[proven charm]

if group setCombatBehaviour is not set?

[kindred zephyr]

is the driver the leader?

[proven charm]

dunno

[kindred zephyr]

if so, group will be set to careless if you set the tank to careless, if not, leader is set to careless

It gets even more complicated if you have AI mods

[proven charm]

hmmm well if combatBehaviour returns the "correct" value then it would be easy to test whats happening

[kindred zephyr]

Command Applies To
setBehaviour Every unit in the group, but not the group itself
setBehaviourStrong Every unit in the group, and the group itself
setCombatBehaviour If argument is Object, only that unit, and if argument is Group, the group itself (not its units)

[proven charm]

yea saw that wiki page, still kinda wondering 🙂

[kindred zephyr]

using behaviour strong is the best from what I've seen, its the most consistent one

[proven charm]

ok but in mech group i want only tanks to careless

[kindred zephyr]

{
group _x setBehaviourStrong "CARELESS";
}forEach _tankArray
```?

[proven charm]

that would apply to infantry as well

[kindred zephyr]

yes, the behaviours are managed using groups

[proven charm]

i'm gona try using setCombatBehaviour see if they stay careless

[kindred zephyr]

gl

[proven charm]

ty for the help 🙂

[still forum]

Pretty sure it won't interpret these initializer lists correctly?
You can pass your thing to diag_log and see what falls out in RPT and if it looks correct.
I would build the arrays manually, not using initializer list to try get the compiler to do it

no, you are inside a SQF command, you don't need locks in main thread

no, not if you are in main thread

If you crash, attach a debugger and look

If you have to, that means i should update my intercept on workshop?

remoteExec is like taping a message to a rock and throwing it over a wall.
You don't get a result, unless someone on the other side of the wall throws you another stone back.
( you need to control the function on the receiving side, and remoteExec the result back to remoteExecutedOwner)

Thats nonsense, a variable being used in some place doesn't mean you're forbidden from using it.
The real issue here is missing private infront of the local vars.
There is no issue with using _y

no

intercept is "unscheduled", cannot sleep in unscheduled.
sqf::sleep shouldn't even be available to you to call 🤔 Except for quite advanced intercept usage it doesn't make sense to use

If you look at the code, the variable is not defined where its used, and it is destroyed before its used.
The variable only exists in the while scope, not outside of it

That is your only option. sqf::spawn

The water you mean? afaik thats detected on the heightmap

[hallow mortar]

It is defined in the outer scope. We went over that before and added a definition at the start specifically to fix that.

[meager granite]

Yeah, guessed so, figured I'll have to make a mask out of in-game height data to color the water.

Did a test, somehow having 1000 controls groups with 2 structured texts in each yields more FPS than having 2000 structured texts controls in the display root 🤔

[still forum]

We have it, #arma3_tools
atleast that's where we've always done it in the past

[hallow mortar]

Someone mentioned a bit ago that the syntax used for nearEntities was wrong. I don't think the other guy has reported back on whether fixing that solved it, but I've got a feeling that was the real problem. When reading it I assumed that it must be right because they said it mostly worked :U

[still forum]

you can also compile and define your functions from C++ side
sqf::set_variable("fnc_xxx", sqf::compile("sqf code"));
don't even need setVariable, you can store on C++ side no need to put into SQF side namespace

Make FT ticket please and ping me the link

If you want to talk to me, the best approach is to talk to me. Instead of asking if you can talk to me

Having one big batch in one command call is more efficient than having many smaller batches.
And when JIP happens, you cannot put sleep between the command executions, so while you can make sleep's inbetween for live play to lag less, the JIP's will be frozen/killed by it

You missunderstood that.
if you make repeat updates, you want to repeatedly update the WHOLE section, even if its hundreds of positions and you only actually changed a single one.
You don't want thousands of command calls for different sections

If you want to flood the terrain, its probably easier to adjust the water level (I think there was some way to do that)

[meager granite]

@still forum Couldn't stop thinking about that flag that lets model faces to render with transparency. There is no easy way to make the engine force this flag on certain model draw instance, right?

[hallow mortar]

You can enable tides as a terrain config thing, but there don't seem to be any script commands for it.

[still forum]

Make a FT ticket and attach crashdump

[sullen sigil]

_y doesnt work when ive used it before outside of the context its used as a magic variable

[still forum]

You are correct.
https://github.com/intercept/intercept/blob/9783afea9706d800616a0847869a2fcde0aef65b/src/client/intercept/client/sqf/waypoint.cpp#L345
The type_ is never actually passed to the command, that's a bug in the command wrapper

[still forum]

Well you did something wrong then, _y is just a variable, same as _x and _this, you can use them if you want to use them

[still forum]

Ah I see.
I don't remember the last time someone had actual code above a functions "params" line. I saw the params and thought that was the first line

[kindred zephyr]

is it possible to be able to move your character while a dialog is active or is that just possible with rscTitles?

[meager granite]

You can sort of move with createDisplay dialog, but only the keyboard

findDisplay 46 createDisplay "YourDialog"

[kindred zephyr]

Im assuming that it is because dialogs take the mouse focus from the camera display?

[meager granite]

Pretty much

[kindred zephyr]

still better than nothing, thanks Sa-Matra

[little raptor]

Well you're already locked in main thread...

[little raptor]

It was due to stack overflow tho

[still forum]

So?

We shouldn't fix game crashes just because we already know what's causing them

nah

[little raptor]

so using forgetTarget in knowsAboutChanged EH

You can sorta expect it would cause infinite recursion

[still forum]

Or we could also just fix it

[granite sky]

IME driving behaviour uses the group behaviour, not the unit behaviour. It's a bit of a pain when you want the driver to ignore enemies but not the gunner/commander.

By contrast, unit behaviour seems dominant when on foot.

[little raptor]

The way I see it you can only fix it if you make something like forgetTarget and doTarget take place in the next frame

Which breaks other stuff 🤷

[still forum]

We already fixed infinite recursion for a couple other EH's

I don't care what you see, I asked him to make a ticket so i can fix it

[little raptor]

Good point. I don't care if you wanna waste time on that either, and whether it's fixed or not won't matter, as long as you don't break things

[lusty hollow]

Am i understanding correctly, that there is now way that i can get sensor targets list from handheld weapon?

[winter rose]

excuse me, what handheld weapon has sensor targets?

[proven charm]

did some tests and it seems that driver must have the CARELESS for any change to happen in moving

[lusty hollow]

Maybe i'm not understanding it fully but ammo in a weapon can have a sensor

[winter rose]

I am afraid I have no idea what you are talking about

[proven charm]

tracer?

[median nimbus]

They may be referencing this? https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Sensors_config_reference

[winter rose]

that's not ammo in a weapon, hence my confusion

[median nimbus]

I'm not sure either

[south swan]

{
    class MissileCore;
    class MissileBase: MissileCore
    {
        class Components;
    };
``` example on that very page

[lusty hollow]

i just have a question in my head for a feature request ticket about command that will provide currently selected sensor target and while thinking what it should output found out that getSensorTargets only applicable to vehicles

But sensors could also be added to ammo

[south swan]

except i don't think the entity of CfgAmmo is ever created before the actual shot 🤔

[lusty hollow]

this shouldn't be true because otherwise how does something like a manpad locks it's target

[south swan]

weapon locks, then fires, then sets the target for freshly created munition iirc.

[lusty hollow]

so the weapon checks for sensor config of it's ammo?

[south swan]

even iirc-er: missiles don't have a target set in the frame they're created, but do on the next frame.

[wind hedge]

Guys, any idea how to detect if the player was hit in the VEST but the vest alone... I tried sqf if (_part == "body") exitWith { if (_unitVest isNotEqualTo "") then {_dam = _dam * 1.5;}; // Ai Vest Nerf }; in addEventHandler "handledamage" but it also the condition also fires when the unit is hit on the hand, arm, legs and even head...

[south swan]

CfgWeapons
...
canLock
Determines if the weapon can lock onto targets allowed by the ammunition it uses.
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Targeting_config_reference#canLock sounds like that 🤔

[winter rose]

FYI "HandleDamage" only provides the new damage value, not the added damage

[wind hedge]

Yeah I know, thanks, it is still possible to get the added damage but I am not trying to modify the added damage just the total damage, but my EH not only has the problem of not detecting vest impacts accurately but also it detects body impacts as hands and head impacts and therefore fires my "weapon drop" and "headgear drop" funcs, which should only happen if the impact was on those body part exclusively

here is the whole thing:

https://sqfbin.com/qavozewasejuyumowumi

[winter rose]

ok - just wanted to be sure because I see tons of people getting it wrong, better safe than sorry :)

wrapping something in call {} is useless (line 7)?

[wind hedge]

Added the call so it can exit if the hit is to the body and not even consider hits to the other parts

[winter rose]

ah, fair

but, well, how to break it to you… _unitVest is just undefined

[wind hedge]

Yeah, I updated the code (also updated the link), it was defined in the code I used but then I just changed it to (vest _unit != "")

[grizzled cliff]

CRYING CEASED. GOD STATUS RE-ENABLED

[wind hedge]

Is it me or exitWith doesn't work AT ALL inside the damaged EH?

[winter rose]

it should work in a call

if it doesn't, use the ol' if then else

[wind hedge]

You are going to DIE of laughter! I added: sqf hint format ["PART: %1", _part]; and nothing else to the damaged EH. (btw, _part is the same as _selection).

And no matter where I shot, to the body or legs, the hint was PART: HEAD

WTF

no wonders why _part == "BODY" wasn't working!

I don't know what is the point of having all the other body parts if the EH only detects the _selection as HEAD...

[hallow mortar]

Multiple selections can be damaged by a hit, and only the last one will show up if you use a hint, because new hints overwrite existing ones. Try it with systemChat.

[wind hedge]

I actually used a duplication prevention script so only the first selection would show... so head is always the first one

[wind hedge]

VAL_fn_handleDamageAiEH = {
    params ["_unit"];
    _unit addEventHandler ["handledamage", {
        params ["_unit", "_selection", "_damage", "_source", "_projectile", "_hitIndex", "_instigator", "_hitPoint", "_directHit"];
        if !(local _unit) exitWith {};
        if (isNil {_unit getVariable "parts_handle"}) then {_unit setVariable ["parts_handle", true];};
        if !(_unit getVariable ["parts_handle", true]) exitWith {}; // Duplication Prevention
        hint format ["PART: %1", _selection];
        _unit setVariable ["parts_handle", false];
        _unit spawn {sleep 0.1; _this setVariable ["parts_handle", true];};
    }];
};```

[hallow mortar]

Okay, but you're still only showing one of the hits even if there are actually multiple. All you've proven is that the head damage always gets processed first, not necessarily that it's the only selection that gets damaged.

[wind hedge]

Correct. I have proven that _selection is not a reliable way to find out the REAL limb/location that the unit got shot/damaged at...

So now the question is... is there a reliable way to get the correct damaged location? including vest shots?

[winter rose]

hint will only display the last hint indeed

[ivory locust]

The issue was that I was building the plugin with the most up-to-date Intercept sources, while using the Workshop-current host, which is about 2 years old. Any possibility that you could update the workshop plugin?

[winter rose]

that's known that hitting the chest can also damage arms, head or "" too yes

[winter rose]

"the one with the biggest damage in one frame"

[wind hedge]

The legs damage the head too!

[ivory locust]

What are my options for this? Can I manually call sqf::set_trigger_type? Right now I'm just creating it in a .sqf function and calling it from Intercept.

[wind hedge]

Ok so how do we figure the one with the biggest damage? (that is not just residual from previous damages)

[winter rose]

you collect them all and you compare with >

[wind hedge]

Well, if "_directhit" was recently added, perhaps we could get a reliable way to get the REAL "big damage" location... something like "_impactedSelection" or whatever

It is mindblowing that there is no reliable way to just figuring out where a unit was originally hit without doing walls of scripted code workarounds in there

[winter rose]

Reforger fixes that, buy it

[hallow mortar]

The directHit param was just turning on an existing engine check. It also.....doesn't actually tell you if it's a direct hit, it can only tell whether it was fall damage or not.
(Note: the directHit param in HitPart does work as the name implies, it uses a different method that wasn't transferrable to HandleDamage)

[wind hedge]

Already bought, but my 5800X3D + RX6700XT runs Arma 3 at 200 FPS (Malden) and 120 in Reforger, but my main problem is that none of the players I play Arma 3 with likes Reforger

[winter rose]

anyway
that's not available easily, "it is how it is"

[wind hedge]

Well, a new param would not be doing anything new either, just filtering the messed up damage ORDER of _selection, so that the Real Damaged limb shows exclusively instead of all the other sub damaged parts

[wind hedge]

Do you have any example on how to do it reliably?

[winter rose]

no

[hallow mortar]

That is something new, and it's impossible to say how easy that would be, because it relies on the engine internal damage processing. There is presumably a reason why it is the way it is now. Remember that HandleDamage firing cannot be delayed at all, otherwise it would be useless.

[wind hedge]

Fine, I guess I will just leave my Ai units pure vanilla

Thank you both for clearing this up

Now I understand why most knowledgeable guys here mostly keep quiet about the damaged EH...

It is a mess

[kindred zephyr]

speaking of, is there an actual reliable way to get physics based damage to the unit body?

Falling and crashes/bumps seems to always be a pain in the ass to detect, I've come to a solution to detect crashes, but falling damage so far has been unreliable

[winter rose]

no idea
if damage is only "" without any instigator, then it's a fall damage afaik

[wind hedge]

Wasn't the new directHit param added to detect exactly that?

[hallow mortar]

Yes. Projectile classname being "" is also a good indicator.

[wind hedge]

so: sqf if (_projectile isEqualTo "" && {isNull _source} && !(_directHit)) then {//fallDamage};

[kindred zephyr]

oh, its fairly recent

explains alot

[wind hedge]

I thought that "_directHit" was added to detect explosion damage... since fall damage was already doable before...

Perhaps the wiki is wrong or I am wrong...

Because in the wiki it says: directHit: Boolean - false for fall damage

[hallow mortar]

The request for it came from wanting to detect explosion damage. However, the check that does that in HitPart is complex in some mysterious way and it was not possible to copy it to HandleDamage. Instead, we got access to a less smart check that already existed in the engine, but can only detect fall damage.

[wind hedge]

"mysterious way" could be the key word definition of the whole damage system to be honest 😅 ... At least I am happy it is getting fixed for Arma 4... and we will be able to enjoy it in 4 years and if we survive WWIII

[winter rose]

can be for blastwave too

[kindred zephyr]

directHit will deliver false but explosives iirc does return instigators and sources

[wind hedge]

Fun fact... 100% of the many mods on the WORKSHOP that claim to make the Ai drop their weapon on arms/hand damage and/or drop headgear on headshot are broken and will cause those two things even when shooting to the legs and the body!

🤣

[kindred zephyr]

someone made a ticket last year regarding damages triggering for the head in random instances too now that you mention that

it was one of the blue names

but dont recall whom

[wind hedge]

Well, the whole thing works in such "mysterious ways" that no one has figured out a way to trully make it work for other purposes (not even the devs it seems)... And all who "think they do" they really don't... Maybe the guys at ACE do... or maybe they just scraped all the vanilla stuff and redid the whole thing from scratch

[hallow mortar]

The one in HitPart detects explosive splash damage correctly, but according to Dedmen the one in HandleDamage doesn't. If that changed later in dev branch, that's awesome, but that's not the information I (or the wiki) have :U

[wind hedge]

I managed to make it work! It is not 100% reliable but every body part fires correctly eventually (after a few shots): https://sqfbin.com/orubeviteweqahanufam

[quaint star]

Good evening. Can someone please tell me if there is a way to change the path calculation types for vehicles?
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/calculatePath
I want some tanks to use "wheeled_APC" or "car" type

Maybe there is some parameter in CfgVehicles that I can edit ?

[winter rose]

not from scripting
perhaps from config, but this is not guaranteed.

[hallow mortar]

The preset types like "wheeled_APC" aren't real pathfinding types in their own right, they're just aliases for specific vehicle types to save you having to remember the exact classname when you want a vehicle of that rough category.
There isn't a pathfinding type specified in vehicle config; pathfinding is probably done by AI/FSM based on a variety of parameters like precision, terrain coefficient, tracked vs wheeled, etc., not using a defined type.

[weary smelt]

Yeah, ur right, I was approaching this problem incorrectly. I have since made it reasonably optimized for multiplayer, but yeah, a command for changing the water level would be much better 😉

[quaint star]

Thank you all for the answers

[wind hedge]

the "random" command doesn't work inside EHs right? Because even if I set sqf If (random 100 < 1) then {}; it always fires as if it was sqf If (random 100 < 99) then {};

[south swan]

wut

[sullen sigil]

if ((random 100) < 1) then {};

[south swan]

less1 = 0;
less99 = 0;
player addEventHandler ["Fired", {
  if (random 100 < 1) then {less1 = less1 + 1;};
  if (random 100 < 99) then {less99 = less99 + 1;};
  systemChat str [less1, less99];
}];```the final output *after firing 100 times* is [1, 99] ![blobdoggoshruggoogly](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/748124048025714758.webp?size=128 "blobdoggoshruggoogly")

[1, 199] after 200 shots, [3, 249] after 250 shots. random 100 < 99 seems to be a bit too frequent, but whatever

[4, 397] after 400 shots. All seems to work as intended

[modern meteor]

Is there a way to receive the coordinates of a task location on the map?

[winter rose]

sure, see https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Task_Framework / https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Task_Framework_Tutorial

[modern meteor]

Thank you, I'll have a look. Looking for a way to spawn enemies around task locations which are randomly generated.

[wind hedge]

The issue seems to happen with the handleDamage event handler... even thou there shouldn't be any difference, I will replicate your test to check it inside the handleDamage

[meager granite]

If you're using exitWith instead of then in your EH, then you can't

[wind hedge]

So EHs have issues with exitWith...

[meager granite]

If EH needs a return value, you can't use exitWith to return it.

[wind hedge]

That nails my problem then... thank you!

[meager granite]

Wrong:

player addEventHandler ["HandleDamage", {
    if(condition) exitWith {1}; // Instant death
    0; // No damage
}];
```Correct:
```sqf
player addEventHandler ["HandleDamage", {
    if(condition) then {
        1; // Instant death
    } else {
        0; // No damage
    };
}];

This is also correct:

player addEventHandler ["HandleDamage", {
    private _final_damage = 0; // No damage
    if(condition) then {_final_damage = 1;}; // Instant death
    _final_damage;
}];

[wind hedge]

so sqf call {if (true) exitWith {}; if (false) exitWith {};}; won't work but sqf switch (true) do {}; would work just fine!?

My god if I knew that before I wouldn't have lost so many hours on it...

[meager granite]

player addEventHandler ["HandleDamage", {
    call {
        if(condition) exitWith {1}; // Instant death
        0; // No damage
    };
}];
```will work fine

Event handler's code scope must have return value as last statement

return of the call is last statement in that example

All in all, don't use exitWith in root scope inside event handlers, if it supposed to return something to the engine

If event handler shouldn't return anything to the engine, it doesn't matter

[wind hedge]

player addEventHandler ["HandleDamage", {
    call {
        if(condition) exitWith {_unit spawn val_fn_x;}; // Instant death
        if(condition) exitWith {_unit spawn val_fn_y;}; // Instant death
    };
    _damage
}]; ``` <--------------- That would also work right

[meager granite]

Yes it will, but it won't return values of your functions because

I guess you meant _damage = call {...

In that case it won't work

because _damage will be script thread, not function result

player addEventHandler ["HandleDamage", {
    private _damage = call {
        if(condition) exitWith {_unit spawn val_fn_x;}; // Instant death
        if(condition) exitWith {_unit spawn val_fn_y;}; // Instant death
    };
    _damage // Damage is SCRIPT return of spawn command here, invalid return
}];

player addEventHandler ["HandleDamage", {
    private _damage = call {
        if(condition) exitWith {_unit call val_fn_x;}; // Instant death
        if(condition) exitWith {_unit call val_fn_y;}; // Instant death
    };
    _damage // Damage is now whatever these functions return
}];

But only if you had any conditions fire, otherwise it will be nil

player addEventHandler ["HandleDamage", {
    private _damage = call {
        if(condition) exitWith {_unit call val_fn_x;}; // Instant death
        if(condition) exitWith {_unit call val_fn_y;}; // Instant death
        0; // Some default value if neither condition fires
    };
    _damage // Damage is now whatever these functions return
}];

[wind hedge]

Well, however the case this function worked just fine for what I wanted (to differentiate the true _selection from the fake ones: https://sqfbin.com/apavagewurenuhafotid

[meager granite]

player addEventHandler ["HandleDamage", {
    call {
        if(condition) exitWith {_unit call val_fn_x;}; // Instant death
        if(condition) exitWith {_unit call val_fn_y;}; // Instant death
        0; // Some default value if neither condition fires
    };
}];
```same thing

[meager granite]

You can't spawn your functions that should return EH result.

spawn command returns thread handle, not thread\function return

[wind hedge]

Can you please fix my current fnc then so it works better? https://sqfbin.com/apavagewurenuhafotid

[winter rose]

(call returns the value
spawn returns the thread)

ab-so-lutely readable code

[meager granite]

Your _newDamage is damage delta, not final damage.

[wind hedge]

you are right... it should be _damage instead

[meager granite]

Also if your condition fails, EH returns nothing and engine uses default damage behaviour

So pretty much same as returning original _damage

Also why stack everything in one line, it makes it unreadable

[wind hedge]

Sorry, kinda noob here regarding proper readability

[meager granite]

if !(local _unit) exitWith {0};
is the same as
if !(local _unit) exitWith {_damage};
because exitWith will not make EH return 0, but will make it return nothing and engine will default to original intended damage of _damage

But either way, HandleDamage on remote units does nothing when it fires errorously

So it doesn't matter

[wind hedge]

Ok so that is a complete waste, removed

My sole objective here was to isolate the REAL _selection rather than the "replicas" that the handledamage EH does with adjacent _selections...

When a particular REAL _selection is detected, the EH should make the AI drop its weapon (hand damage), its headgear (head damage) or if the Ai has a vest it should increase the damage a little bit (20%)

Ohhh and I added some force applied to ai units getting hit on the leg so they fall and then stand up again....

Believe it or not but that messy code I did was working quite well but I don't even know how 😅

[meager granite]

What's with _handleInProgress?

[wind hedge]

It was my attempt to make the call EXITWITH instead of just going though all the conditions below, because I added the "BODY" first and the "HEAD" last and still the HEAD was firing when I was shooting the unit in the BODY....

So the result was me shooting the Ai unit in the body would trigger the Ai unit loosing its headhear 100% of the time and the HINT would say "HEAD", with that last code I posted it mostly posted BODY (The hint) but sometimes the correct _selection would fire and then the proper effect would trigger, unlike before when it was 100% HEAD or 100% body and never the other parts

I was just desperate and trying anything to make it work...

A shot in the dark if you will

[meager granite]

if (vest _unit != "") then {_damage = _damage * 1.2;}; Why damage increase if unit has a vest? Did you mean it the other way around it?

[wind hedge]

Yes, I want the units with vests take more damage because I hate how bullet spongy the Ai can get when fully geared

So I want the same "one/two" shots kills in all my missions even if the enemy Ai have vests (and I know I could just remove their vest but then they don't look as dangerious...

And yes, I am weird like that, sorry 😅

I prefer adding more enemies that take one/two shots to take down rather than few enemies that require 4/5 pistol shots to take down...

[meager granite]

https://sqfbin.com/ugugexujovuyemahacay

Reorganized your code a little bit, I guess this is what you intended

It can be restructured even more to get rid of these exitWiths and some ifs

Another point I'd make is that checking by selection name might not always work because unit models change with uniforms and selection names change too

There was even an example of that with vanilla assets

Also _deltaDamage > 0.4 is a lot of damage, if unit has one of top vests you're very unlikely to pass more than 0.4 damage at once with a pistol shot

[wind hedge]

Thank you so much, you are a godsend! You will be one of my first credits when I release my first mission on the Workshop

[meager granite]

Checked my statement, doesn't seem to be a case any longer with vanilla assets

CAManBase
["face_hub","neck","head","pelvis","spine1","spine2","spine3","body","arms","hands","legs","body"]
B_Soldier_VR_F
["face_hub","neck","head","pelvis","spine1","spine2","spine3","body","hand_l","hand_r","arms","hands","leg_l","leg_r","legs","body"]
```The only different one is VR costume, because it needs to highlight body parts thus has different selections and more hit parts

Might still be a case for modded units, they might still call selections differently

So I'd advise to check _hitPoint instead

But that's a minor edge case

Checked 1.14 configs and indeed there are czech named selection names:

class HitHead {
    armor = 0.7;
    material = -1;
    name = "hlava_hit";

[wind hedge]

Ok, that is solid advice, my first mission will be full vanilla but the next one is full CUP...

[meager granite]

I think these selection names leaked into some uniform models, underwear one for sure

[wind hedge]

But worst case scenario the only downside to the current implementation is that the effects won't trigger (weapon drop, headgear drop etc) so it is not such a big downside

just tried the code you optimized and it is just so good now... works like a dream

[meager granite]

👍

[wind hedge]

May I ask which one is your latest project? I would love to try some stuff you made

[meager granite]

I mostly work on King of the Hill mission

Join one of the servers with "King of the Hill by Sa-Matra" missions

There is also RHS version

Usually has plenty of players

[queen cargo]

better disable it again @grizzled cliff

i still see like a ton of shit that has to be changed in a kinda important project before you are allowed to name yourself as "SQF God"

[tough abyss]

hello to setup a headless client do you put SIDE: Game Logic, CLASS: Virtual Entities, UNIT: Headless Client, CONTROL: Playable, NAME: somename in the init box of the unit, description.ext or init.sqf? i cannot see it stated at https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Headless_Client

[south swan]

insert a Headless Client unit

although that seems tad outdated

current location

and give it a Variable Name after placing

[tough abyss]

thanks for the help

[pulsar bluff]

sunk cost, etc 🤣

[meager granite]

That would be Wasteland

[modern meteor]

Hello, I am testing a spawn script. In this case I want to spawn units at player position and initiate a patrol. Unfortunately nothing happens when I execute the script. What am I doing wrong?

fnc_SpawnOpUnits = {

    _opUnitList = [

    "B_recon_M_F",
    "B_recon_M_F", 
    "B_recon_M_F",
    "B_recon_M_F",
    "B_recon_M_F",
    "B_recon_M_F",
    "B_recon_M_F",
    "B_recon_M_F",
    "B_recon_M_F",
    "B_recon_M_F"
    
    ];

    //hint "Spawning...";
    
    amount = 5;
    location = getPos player;
    
    _selector = 0;
    _pick = _opUnitList select _selector;
    
    for [{_x = 1}, {_x < amount}, {_x = _x + 1}] do {
        
        _grp = createGroup [west, true];
        _grp allowFleeing 0;
        _grp enableDynamicSimulation true;
        
        _newOpUnit = _pick createUnit[(getPos location), _grp];
        
        sleep 0.5;
        
        [_grp, (getPos location), 60] call bis_fnc_taskPatrol;
        
        if(_selector <= 11) then {
            
            _selector = _selector + 1;
            
        } else {
            
            _selector = 0;
        };
    };
    
    //hint "Done";
    
};

[meager granite]

You're not running with -showScriptErrors parameter to see when your scripts error out.

Otherwise this script is really bad

[south swan]

if you've posted exactly what you're trying to run - you're not running any code at all, as all of posted is "assign this piece of code to this variable"

[proven charm]

one problem I see is that you set the "location" with getpos and then later u use getpos "location" which isn't going work

[south swan]

and _pick = _opUnitList select _selector; outside of the actual loop, meaning the loop (when actually called) would only spawn the first unit in the list

[modern meteor]

Ok, thanks guys. Apologies, I have very basic scripting knowledge. I understand my errors with getpos "location" but not sure how to solve the other things.

My objective is to spawn a group of units patrolling around a coordinate on the map. In the example above I use the player as a reference point.

[modern meteor]

I know the code does not look pretty but at least I got it working in the end. Here is the code:

_opUnitList = [

    "CUP_O_TK_INS_Soldier",
    "CUP_O_TK_INS_Mechanic", 
    "CUP_O_TK_INS_Soldier_FNFAL",
    "CUP_O_TK_INS_Bomber",
    "CUP_O_TK_INS_Soldier_MG",
    "CUP_O_TK_INS_Sniper",
    "CUP_O_TK_INS_Soldier_TL",
    "CUP_O_TK_INS_Commander",
    "CUP_O_TK_INS_Soldier_AT",
    "CUP_O_TK_INS_Guerilla_Medic"
    
];

opUnitSpawned = [];

_total = (count _opUnitList);
rnd = 1;


for "rnd" from 1 to _total do {   
    _pick = _opUnitList select rnd;

    hint "Spawning Soldier";
    sleep 0.5;
    
    grp = createGroup west;
    
_myUnit = grp createUnit ["B_Soldier_F", [6219.83,5448.38,0.00161791],["myMarker1","myMarker2"], 50, "NONE"];    
    [grp, (getPos player), 60] call bis_fnc_taskPatrol;
    rnd = rnd + 1;
hint "Done!";
    
};

I would like to use this code to spawn the units around multiple mission objectives which are assigned to the player so that the area around these objectives gets populated. Does anybody know how to do this?

[cosmic lichen]

why use for and not forEach?

rnd var will also exceed limits of array

and you don't need to increment rnd

[trim wraith]

Hello, I have a general scripting question:
Is there any advantage to having a conditional function call for e.g. different vehicle classes like Wheeled_APC_F, APC_Tracked_01_base_F, MBT_01_base_F, MBT_02_base_F, etc in the init (or caller, I'm not proficient in the jargon) file with layered if and elseifs, then have separate .sqf function files for each item, or is it better to have init check with all vehicle classes checked and applied at the same time and have a layered elseif conditionals for all class functions in a single file? For example:
init file

if (_veh isKindOf "Wheeled_APC_F") then {
        _veh spawn lgm_fnc_VehicleFunction1;
    };
elseif (_veh isKindOf "APC_Tracked_01_base_F") then {
        _veh spawn lgm_fnc_VehicleFunction2;
    };
elseif (_veh isKindOf "MBT_01_base_F") then {
        _veh spawn lgm_fnc_VehicleFunction3;
    };
else (_veh isKindOf "MBT_02_base_F") then {
        _veh spawn lgm_fnc_VehicleFunction4;
    };

with 4 different VehicleFunctionX.sqf files
or
init file

        _veh spawn lgm_fnc_VehicleFunction;
    }; 

with only 1 VehicleFunction.sqf file that has a similar conditinal layout to the example above.

Thank you.

[little raptor]

There's no elseif

And your question doesn't really make sense. What you're doing in those scripts is completely different. So one doesn't have any advantage over the other, since they don't really compare

One does different things per vehicle type, other does one thing for several types

[pliant stream]

Depends on how different those functions are from one another i suppose. There's also a performance related argument to be made here, but that should probably be considered secondary.

[trim wraith]

Sorry if it didn't make sense. I'm not really a coder and sqf is even more of a challenge on my already lacking c knowledge. The main aim is to have the same function defined to apply different values to vehicles based on their classes. For example, I want to have x3 speed multiplier on an APC while x3 speed multiplier on a tank, when a player driver enters a vehicle.

[south swan]

i doubt performance really matters until you start spawning 50 vehicles per frame

[trim wraith]

My question is to whether use class check on the caller function so it can call different function files depending on the vehicle class, or have the caller function call a single file and make the speed change distinctions based on class in that single file.

[little raptor]

In that case you can just make a single function and do something like this:

params ["_veh"];
if (_veh isKindOf "Tank") exitWith {
 ....
};
if (_veh isKindOf "Car") exitWith {
 ...
};
...

If what you do is similar there's no need make more functions. Just use the "variations" as function parameters

[trim wraith]

Not calling any other file at all, but having both the class distinction and actual modifier function run in the same single file, if I understand correctly, right?

[little raptor]

Either one is fine

If it's too long, or used frequently, you can move it to its own function

[stable dune]

Is switch case faster or it's slower?
I mean does switch go to throught for each condition or does it stop when condition is met?

[little raptor]

Switch is slower than if exitWith

According to biki

But it does stop when condition is met, yes

It's only marginally slower

But if you were to make that into a switch it would look like: switch (true) do { case (_veh isKindOf "tank"): ... } which I don't like

[stable dune]

Awesome good to know 👍

[quiet gazelle]

is return an SQF keyword? i can find nothing about it on the wiki, but VScode highlights it red

[meager granite]

There is no lineIntersectsASL that ignores sea level?

[still forum]

I wasn't aware that the host needed any update, as noone reported problems with it and I don't know of changes that would need it 🤔

[still forum]

You could fix it in code and make a pull request

[still forum]

no

Easy way to check https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/return

[winter rose]

and here I had hopes seeing you posting the link

[pliant stream]

SQF doesn't have functions so it's rather unclear what the semantics of a return command would be.

[still forum]

I'd expect same as if(true)exitWith{X}

[pliant stream]

Though you could easily enough pair it with a function command to disambiguate:

doSomething = function // Takes code, returns code. Sets a function flag.
{
  if (_this) then
  {
    return 42; // Exits the nearest scope with a function flag.
  };
  0
};

Or alternatively:

doSomething =
{
  function; // Marks this scope as a function scope, akin to scopeName naming a scope.
  if (_this) then
  {
    return 42; // Exits the nearest scope with a function flag.
  };
  0
};

[pliant stream]

That would not be particularly useful, and would defy expectation. Such a command would probably be better named exitScope or something to that effect.

[sullen sigil]

breakOut

[pliant stream]

Actually it would probably be entirely useless. If you're unconditionally exiting the current scope, you might as well just end the scope.

[pliant stream]

Does not return a value.

[still forum]

it does

it has alt syntax that returns value

[pliant stream]

Oh, that's news to me.

But then i only do A2. 😛

[sullen sigil]

hate return commands fr

[digital hollow]

lineIntersectsSurfaces ignores water, if that's what you mean?

[meager granite]

Checks for objects which I don't need though

[hallow mortar]

Try terrainIntersectAtASL? It doesn't say whether it ignores water or not

[winter rose]

should be terrain only (hopefully)

[meager granite]

Nah, they're identical by results

One is bool, another is position

[ivory locust]

I sent @little raptor a stack trace from an issue I was getting involving sqf::call I think, and he suggested that my host might be out of date, after replacing the workshop version with the most recent build it was working fine

[still forum]

Well I'd love to know what is actually wrong in the old host then that needes to be updated

[modern meteor]

_myUnit = grp createUnit [pick, tasklocation,["myMarker1","myMarker2"], 50, "NONE"];

This sometimes spawns units in the water. Is there a way to avoid this and only spawn on terrain?

[manic sigil]

Look at BIS_fnc_randomPos, youll have to restructure the createUnit section but you can guarantee land locations.

[hallow mortar]

or BIS_fnc_findSafePos

[ivory locust]

I haven't a clue
game_value mags = sqf::call(getVariable("BIS_fnc_compatibleMagazines"), {}); What is the correct way to treat this return value as a vector of game data? .get_as<>()?

[foggy stratus]

I'm trying to override a BI function with my mod, but it fails when starting arma because it can't find commonDefinitions.inc include file (it's assuming my mod path). This is the first line of the function: #include "common_definitions.inc"

Can I put a more specific path in there so it finds the include file?

[digital hollow]

There are a few, all different

\a3\missions_f_oldman\Systems\scripts\ActionQueue\common_definitions.inc
\a3\missions_f_oldman\Systems\scripts\Checkpoint\common_definitions.inc
\a3\missions_f_oldman\Systems\scripts\Economy\common_definitions.inc
\a3\missions_f_oldman\Systems\scripts\FastTravel\common_definitions.inc
\a3\missions_f_oldman\Systems\scripts\Phone\common_definitions.inc
\a3\missions_f_oldman\Systems\scripts\Reputation\common_definitions.inc
\a3\missions_f_oldman\Systems\scripts\SmartMarkers\common_definitions.inc
\a3\missions_f_oldman\Systems\scripts\SyndikatAgent\common_definitions.inc
\a3\missions_f_oldman\Systems\scripts\SyndikatCommon\common_definitions.inc
\a3\missions_f_oldman\Systems\scripts\SyndikatTeam\common_definitions.inc

[foggy stratus]

Perfect, thanks, its the phone one.

[modern meteor]

Thank you both. Works perfect.

[patent abyss]

Hey, everyone. Fairly new to Arma 3 scripting here but I'm no stranger to text code.
I'm trying to setup a Warlords mission - it's nearly complete but I'm at a near standstill after fighting with this for a hours on end...

Adding custom assets into the Request Menu through the description.ext & I've managed to get one unit to show up for BLUFOR and OPFPR.

I cannot add in more than one unit, I either get an error about my description.ext when loading this mission saying I'm missing a brace '}' or that '}' was encountered when '=' was expected.
OR, I get an error saying the unit is already used elsewhere in the script or just no error at all, making me assume it's working - but there's no additional units in the request menu, just the one unit(s) for each faction.

If you wish to see my script, I'll throw it in a text file and upload it here if I have perms or just DM.

Should I post this in #arma3_troubleshooting instead?

[still forum]

mags.to_array()

[ivory locust]

How silly of me.. Thank you

[patent abyss]

Yooooo I don't know what I did, but I did it

thanks for the help ya'll lmao

[digital hollow]

Sometimes having to describe the problem is enough to help you solve it =)

[patent abyss]

That's literally me in a nutshell. I need to get it out of my head to get a better look at it

[winter rose]

aka rubber-ducking (to) the solution!

[opal zephyr]

Can I use "initPlayerLocal.sqf" in an addon? It doesnt seem to be running for me

[little raptor]

no

[opal zephyr]

Is there a method thats equivalent?

[little raptor]

functions with postInit and checking with waitUntil {!isNull player} maybe

(and making sure it's not dedicated, etc. so as not to cause an infinite loop)

[opal zephyr]

Thanks

[tender fossil]

What are the limits to single callExtension call in Arma 2: OA v1.64? Input/output max length in bytes etc.?

[stray flame]

I am having a headache and a half over trying to get custom audio to play over radio from a unit. Any suggestions?

in description.ext I have this:

class CfgSounds {
Sound[]={};
    class Welcome_1
    {
        name = "Welcome_1";
        sound[] = {"Sound\Welcome.ogg", +25, 1};
        titles[] = {};
    };

    class Prisonner_Thanks
    {
        name = "Prisonner";
        sound[] = {"Sound\Prisonner_Thanks2.ogg", +150, 1 };
        titles[] = {Welcome to the station};
    };

class CfgRadio{
sounds[] = {};
    class Radio_Welcome
    {
        name = "";
        sound[] = {"Sound\Welcome1.ogg", db - 5, 1.0 };
        title = "Subtitles are said here";
    };
    };
};

in a trigger, I have

["Events\Commander_Hello.sqf"] remoteExec ["execVM",2];

Within this commander_hello.sqf, I have

[Com, "Radio_Welcome"] remoteExec ["sideRadio"];

Com = unit I want to talk

issue:
Nothing is happening. Even trying to do it
[Com, "Radio_Welcome"] remoteExec ["sideRadio"];

just directly via command console wont do anything.

In another place, I have a "Say 3D" command for a unit with a different voiceline, and it works fine.

[digital hollow]

sideRadio works with CfgRadio CfgSentences (pasted wrong thing, sorry)

[stray flame]

is CfgRadio not just a part in description.ext?

[digital hollow]

This is a really good guide https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giOpjIeoWEg

[stray flame]

ho no he doesnt put his script and stuff in his description

or what he writes in it

[digital hollow]

the example mission link works

[stray flame]

okay this is a little bit helpful but

I dont see how that helps me get it transmitted over radio

and I dont want a conversation its just one unit talking to the players

hmmm

[sullen sigil]

Is there a way to convert vectorDir to azimuth that I'm just entirely oblivious to?

much easier for me to work in azimuth then convert to vectorDir

[granite sky]

always works in vectors :P

[digital hollow]

[0,0,0] getDir _vector

[oblique anchor]

Yo, anyone knows how do I make addaction to only be for a specific player to see? other players can see the action on that player

[granite sky]

you can also do an arctan, but that getDir usage might be faster.

[sullen sigil]

wouldnt have even thought of that thank you 🙂

[sullen sigil]

i would do so but this is incredibly difficult for my brain to understand as is

making it slightly more understandable in exchange for performance probably isnt the worst idea

[digital hollow]

I was thinking of completely the wrong thing, sorry 😅

[stray flame]

I am

mad

I went on such a tangent for that

at least I know how to get proper lipsync but holy hell

[sullen sigil]

Using bezierInterpolation to get an approximation for the distance along that curve should be fine though, right?

[stray flame]

Okay anyone actually know anything helpful to me regarding this?

[sullen sigil]

have you made it work using call first

[stray flame]

where would I put call?

[sullen sigil]

dont use remoteexec until youve figured out what you want it to do on one pc first.
Com sideRadio "Radio_Welcome";

i didnt mean call tf was i on about

just without remoteexec is what i meant

[stray flame]

YEAH I feel like im having a stroke with hte awnsers im getting

[sullen sigil]

mood

[stray flame]

remoteexec is not what i have seen as an issue

[sullen sigil]

does Com sideRadio "Radio_Welcome"; work

dont use remoteexec until you have it working properly for just your computer in sp first it will save you a lot of headache

[stray flame]

I may try but I belive it worked on say3d but heck, may aswell

I never edit a MP mission in sp

I only lan host edit

[sullen sigil]

thats uh
concerning

[stray flame]

its simply the best way I have found to make sure as many things as possible work as reliably as they can

[sullen sigil]

convert your thingies to remoteexec once youve got it sorted without first it saves you lots of headache in the long run

[stray flame]

Remoteexec shouldnt be the issue unless I did it twice

I remoteExec an entire script with the stuff for dialogue inside

[sullen sigil]

my point stands

[stray flame]

maybe, my problem is

I am doing a double remoteexec

[sullen sigil]

you are remoteexec'ing an execvm that remoteexecs a command

[stray flame]

yes I might

and I am going to try to untangle that little ball of yarn

[sullen sigil]

is there any specific reason for this to be scheduled btw

[stray flame]

Removing the remoteexec in the script does not work

but I do figure it wont hurt either cuz the script is already well

[sullen sigil]

i refer you to this

[stray flame]

no

[stable dune]

Have you tried with some other db than -5

[stray flame]

I can try

[sullen sigil]

if that doesnt work then its an issue with the config

[stray flame]

no a word form the man

[stray flame]

"description.ext"?

[sullen sigil]

yeah that

[stray flame]

allowedFunctions[] = {"BIS_fnc_execVM"};


respawnOnStart = 0;


zeusCompositionScriptLevel=2; 






class CfgSounds {
Sound[]={};
    class Welcome_1
    {
        name = "Welcome_1";
        sound[] = {"Sound\Welcome.ogg", +25, 1};
        titles[] = {};
    };

    class Prisonner_Thanks
    {
        name = "Prisonner";
        sound[] = {"Sound\Prisonner_Thanks2.ogg", +150, 1 };
        titles[] = {Welcome to the station};
    };
};
class CfgRadio{
sounds[] = {};
    class Radio_Welcome
    {
        name = "";
        sound[] = {"\Sound\Welcome1.ogg", +15, 1.0 };
        title = "Subtitles are said here";

    };
};

[stable dune]

It doesn't give error?
You have one }
Too much there,
CfgRadio should be own

I think you have radion currently in cfgSounds

[sullen sigil]

^

cfgsounds should have a closing } below prisonner_thanks closing }

[stray flame]

let me edit the message and tell me if im doing it right

is this right?

[sullen sigil]

yes

[stray flame]

I will try it then

[sullen sigil]

wait no

[stray flame]

hm?

[sullen sigil]

you have an extra };

[stray flame]

at the end?

[sullen sigil]

chop the one underneath Radio_Welcome's closing } off

[stray flame]

like that?

[sullen sigil]

yes

lift a finger for every opening bracket lower a finger for every closing bracket

[stray flame]

I would use notepad++ but sometimes im lazy

okay okay we are seeing results

but he only like

tapped the radio once, I will check the file path

okay so, I am still having issue with something

I dont know whats up

but it seems like everything is working except somehow the broadcast of the radio message

it just does the sound of a radio beginning broadcast and then nothing

there is an animation played by the character talking so I know the script works.

[stray flame]

magic, it works

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-gif-23140940

[dreamy kestrel]

Q: so with entities you can include classes, and whether to include crews, I assume that includes AI in drone positions? but does not let you specify a range about an object, position, etc? so if we used this, we would need some points of interest about which to narrow the result set?
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/entities

[meager granite]

entities [...] select {_x distance player < 1000}

[granite sky]

If you need it to be fast then entities [...] inAreaArray [getPosATL player, 1000, 1000]

[sullen sigil]

I do believe I'm being daft however I've no access to a dedi server right now to test -- setVelocity on an object created on the server with createVehicle is correct usage, right, due to the object being local to the server?

[granite sky]

Assuming that it's still local to the server, yes.

If a player gets into the vehicle as driver then the locality changes to that player's client and then any subsequent setVelocity needs to run there instead.

[dreamy kestrel]

nice thank you both for the feedback

[shut reef]

Is there a way to open the "mission load" window of 3den from the main menu?
I can't seem to find how it's actually opened, the ui menu config seems to refer to something in-engine, not actually calling an exposed function.

[warm hedge]

I do not think there is a way. I've tried to see how it's done recently but it indeed is Engine driven

[crystal lagoon]

The saga of my radio jamming script is at an end. I just need some help understanding a specific value inside it

YourFunctionName = {
  params ["_jammer","_gain"];
  _jammerArea = [getpos _jammer,200,200,0,false,200];
  while {alive _jammer} do {
    {
        _gain = if (_x inArea _jammerArea) then [{0},{1}];
        _x setVariable ["tf_receivingDistanceMultiplicator", _gain];
        _x setVariable ["tf_sendingDistanceMultiplicator", _gain];
    } foreach allPlayers;
    sleep 5;
  };
  {
    _x setVariable ["tf_receivingDistanceMultiplicator", 1];
    _x setVariable ["tf_sendingDistanceMultiplicator", 1];
  } foreach allPlayers;
};

Specifically the getpos value

[sharp grotto]

That doesn't look correct imho
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/getPos

[crystal lagoon]

I've seen a similar getpos value in another script

[sharp grotto]

Wait, it's early 😄
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/inArea

the getpos is part of the above command ^^

[crystal lagoon]

I see

I just tested it and it works.

[stable dune]

Yeh sorry

[crystal lagoon]

np

I'm just not gonna monkey around with it longer than I have to

[stable dune]

_val = if (true) then [{ "true" }, { "false" }];
hint _val;```

Is in example.
Just read 1st ![notlikemeow](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/700311897937018890.webp?size=128 "notlikemeow")

[stable dune]

What you want to set to position of jammer.
That works right? Because all parts looks correct .
You spawn that from initServer ?
You can remoteexec getPos return value if you want.

[crystal lagoon]

No, it comes from an init file

call compileScript ["jammer.sqf"];

[jammerName] spawn YourFunctionName;
[secondJammerName] spawn YourFunctionName;
\\\add more as needed

[stable dune]

Because using allPlayers, I bet you are using that on MP.
So that will spawn for every client current script.
So every client will check same thing and will add current values every 5 sec forEach player.
You should change that to spawn from server or if you want every client do check for own then pop out allPlayers part and change _x to player.

But still, you asked getPos value.

Just add in script

_pos = getPos _jammer;
systemChat str(_pos);
_pos2 = _jammer modelToWorld [0,0,0];
systemChat str(_pos2);

[crystal lagoon]

Oh, I just wanted to know what it meant. The person before pointed me to the right line, it's inArea

[crystal lagoon]

You mean an initServer file?

[stable dune]

Well yes, but depends how does tf_.. variables are checked. If those are checked local , then you need setVaribales for each client like it's currently.
Because setVariable add current value local.
So if you run it only server it will add current variables on server and only change those on server.
Well Im not best person to explain.
But see
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Variables
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Multiplayer_Scripting
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/setVariable

[crystal lagoon]

tf relates to the TFAR mod

[shut reef]

Meh. Hoped there was a way around having to open the editor on a map first :/

[manic kettle]

The tf variables are LOCAL. I recommend against trying to use allPlayers in this context. Simply run this from the init, add a check so it runs only on players, find if they are in the area or not, set the variable to player. Repeat every 5 seconds or so.

In my version I also play a white noise sound effect to let players know they are being jammed. You could try something similar. Like a systemChat or hint msg even works. Just a suggestion

[stable dune]

Well here is answer.
It needs to execute on clients.
Thanks Ztrack

[crystal lagoon]

Is the current setup going to cause major issues?

I'll be honest, arma coding makes my fucking head spin

[manic kettle]

If that's in init.sqf then it's going to run on the server and all the clients too. So if it's 20 players it'll set the variable 20 times...
You could run it from the serverInit... but honestly that's a lot of traffic that could be avoided by just running it player side

[crystal lagoon]

There's another code I found that runs on initPlayerlocal but it's way more complex and I couldn't really wrap my head around some of it

Mostly numbers and true/false values

[manic kettle]

You don't have to do much. Just remove all the forEach allPlayers and replace _x with player. Then run it from init.sqf

At the top stick this
if !hasInterface exitWith{};

[crystal lagoon]

Like this?

YourFunctionName = {

  if !hasInterface exitWith{};

  params ["_jammer","_gain"];
  _jammerArea = [getpos _jammer,200,200,0,false,200];
  while {alive _jammer} do {
    {
        _gain = if (player inArea _jammerArea) then [{0},{1}];
        player setVariable ["tf_receivingDistanceMultiplicator", _gain];
        player setVariable ["tf_sendingDistanceMultiplicator", _gain];
    }
    sleep 5;
  };
  {
    player setVariable ["tf_receivingDistanceMultiplicator", 1];
    player setVariable ["tf_sendingDistanceMultiplicator", 1];
  }
};```

[manic kettle]

Probably? I'm confused what you're doing with your gain, but the rest looks ok...

[crystal lagoon]

Some wizard on the forums posted it in response to a request for help and it works better than what I had

Previously, the players would have their radios permanently disabled if they destroyed the jamming device while they were in the radius

[manic kettle]

Yep that's why you reset it after the while loop

[crystal lagoon]

The other one I was looking at is in this post

https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/203810-release-radio-jamming-script-for-task-force-radio/

[still forum]

_gain = if (player inArea _jammerArea) then [{0},{1}];
        player setVariable ["tf_receivingDistanceMultiplicator", _gain];
        player setVariable ["tf_sendingDistanceMultiplicator", _gain];

_gain = [1, 0] select (player inArea _jammerArea);

Please no that obscure else syntax that noone knows

[winter rose]

[1, 0] select bool is known
if (cond) then [{then}, {else}] is not 😆

[still forum]

if !hasInterface exitWith{};
missing parenthesis 👀 ahhh

I mean.. Its... a style.. but.. eh..

[winter rose]

https://tenor.com/view/iguess-gif-6228980

[still forum]

  {
    player setVariable ["tf_receivingDistanceMultiplicator", 1];
    player setVariable ["tf_sendingDistanceMultiplicator", 1];
  }

that btw does nothing
you want to either get rid of the {} or add a call infront
(don't add a call infront)

params ["_jammer","_gain"];
Why is the gain a parameter? its always overwritten

Actually this does nothing at all either

    {
        _gain = if (player inArea _jammerArea) then [{0},{1}];
        player setVariable ["tf_receivingDistanceMultiplicator", _gain];
        player setVariable ["tf_sendingDistanceMultiplicator", _gain];
    }

Was this code written by AI?

the top is using 2 space indent, inside the while is using 4 space indent, and the bottom is using 2 space indent again.. whaa

ahhh I can't let this be 😄

YourFunctionName = {

  if (!hasInterface) exitWith {}; // Executed on non-player
  if (!canSuspend) exitWith {_this spawn YourFunctionName}; // Called from unscheduled

  params ["_jammer"];
  private _jammerArea = [getpos _jammer, 200, 200, 0, false, 200];
  while {alive _jammer} do {
    private _gain = [1,0] select (player inArea _jammerArea); // if player in area gain is zero
    player setVariable ["tf_receivingDistanceMultiplicator", _gain];
    player setVariable ["tf_sendingDistanceMultiplicator", _gain];
    sleep 5;
  };

  // reset jamming if jammer died
  player setVariable ["tf_receivingDistanceMultiplicator", 1];
  player setVariable ["tf_sendingDistanceMultiplicator", 1];
};

[winter rose]

I can't let this be
the code fixers curse

[full swan]

hello guys, can someone explain to me, why the hell is my script pausing completely at "sleep" command?!
https://i.imgur.com/IjIe4xd.png

[still forum]

Did you check RPT log messages?

[still forum]

Also pretty sure tf_receivingDistanceMultiplicator is wrong.
Code says the smaller the value, the larger the range you can receive.
So you wouldn't set that to zero to disable receiving/jam the signal... You want to set it to a high value
in TFAR 1.0 it would make more sense to use TFAR_globalRadioRangeCoef global variable.
That's smaller==smaller range, larger == larger range (minimum value is 0.0001)

[full swan]

well, I didn't, but there is no error message triggered when using lower value than 0.079, the script continues normally after sleep

I checked the RPT, it's empty

it's inside a spawned block inside a function that is spawned from a while loop inside a spawned block from init.sqf

well.. After further experiments, it seems that I've somehow killed the sleep function in every script 😄 It doesn't respond anywhere

but it works when launched from debug console...

[winter rose]

my bet is that you run this sleep somewhere unscheduled - where is this code?

(see https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Scheduler#Unscheduled_Environment)

[full swan]

as I said, it is 100% in scheduled enviro.. Originated from init.sqf through a while loop inside a spawn {} block

[winter rose]

I missed that line indeed

[full swan]

https://i.imgur.com/8WjtFfI.png

[winter rose]

and where is that function called?

run diag_activeScripts? I suspect a thread saturation

[stray flame]

ima just drop a quick question and get back to it later, I just wanna know if its worth diving into.

Can you put lipsync from the .lip files onto characters doing say or say3d?

without conversation or something like that.
Also worth mentioning its for MP

[winter rose]

it should be working out of the box yes

[stray flame]

well, how so?

like atm I have

Captive_1 say3D "Prisonner_Thanks";

[winter rose]

with say (and say3D too I suspect), if the file is voice1.ogg, the lip should be voice1.lip and next to the ogg file
that's it

[stray flame]

so it will automatically sync to the .lip with the same name?

[winter rose]

ye

[stray flame]

thats really cool

thanks for the help

[winter rose]

I know 😎

anytime!

[full swan]

https://i.imgur.com/Vegv07O.png

[winter rose]

please run diag_activeScripts

because one must not spawn a thread for each unit… gooby pls

[tough abyss]

I am curious @queen cargo, could you give some examples of those things that should be changed and why?

[full swan]

the functions are spawned only after a set of conditions which are hard to accomplish

[winter rose]

doesn't explain why sleep doesn't work

[full swan]

[3,0,0,1] before satisfied conditions (debug console)
[5,0,0,1] right before sleep
[4,0,0,1] after (ran from debug console)

[full swan]

☝️

https://i.imgur.com/zeonOlJ.png

[tough abyss]

I assume you are either talking about ACE or ACRE, no?

[queen cargo]

simple and fast example?
ACE3, interaction menu
not only the functions are a mess right now, its also the concept behind it which is not optimal solved

[full swan]

so the spawned block just crashes? 😄

without error or anything? 😄

[queen cargo]

never checked ACREs code as there is no need for me

i do know its quite some solid stuff

[full swan]

11:35:36 Starting mission: 11:35:36 Mission file: quickie_kavala 11:35:36 Mission world: Altis 11:35:36 Mission directory: C:\Users\ffredyk\Documents\Arma 3\missions\quickie_kavala.Altis\ 11:35:36 EPE manager release (1|38|0) 11:35:36 EPE manager release (0|1|0) 11:35:38 [CBA] (xeh) INFO: [86387,1241.04,0] PreInit started. v3.15.8.220912 11:35:38 [CBA] (settings) INFO: Reading settings from settings file. 11:35:38 [CBA] (settings) INFO: Finished reading settings from settings file. 11:35:38 [CBA] (xeh) INFO: [86387,1241.12,0] PreInit finished. 11:35:44 soldier[O_G_Soldier_AR_F]:Some of magazines weren't stored in soldier Vest or Uniform? 11:35:44 soldier[O_G_Soldier_AR_F]:Some of magazines weren't stored in soldier Vest or Uniform? 11:35:44 soldier[O_G_Soldier_LAT2_F]:Some of magazines weren't stored in soldier Vest or Uniform? 11:35:44 soldier[O_G_Soldier_LAT2_F]:Some of magazines weren't stored in soldier Vest or Uniform? 11:35:45 Mission id: e7eccdee5e253db63f26f1c1caf865f9e092c373 11:35:48 [CBA] (xeh) INFO: [86516,1250.95,0] PostInit started. MISSIONINIT: missionName=quickie_kavala, missionVersion=54, worldName=Altis, isMultiplayer=false, isServer=true, isDedicated=false, CBA_isHeadlessClient=false, hasInterface=true, didJIP=false 11:35:48 [CBA] (versioning) INFO: [86516,1250.96,0] VERSIONING:cba=3.15.8.220912 11:35:48 [CBA] (xeh) INFO: [86516,1250.96,0] PostInit finished.
End of RPT

[winter rose]

your machine is cursed, apply gasoline and match

[lone glade]

Feel free to PR your changes then....

[winter rose]

just for the lolz, canSuspend returns true?

[queen cargo]

but also think that i could find something in there too (like you can find in every project)

[tough abyss]

Why do you think the interaction menu's code is a mess?

[full swan]

https://i.imgur.com/c4IXFFx.png

https://i.imgur.com/FDSYoxL.png

[winter rose]

…previous statement still applies 😄

[full swan]

🤣

[queen cargo]

not my job @lone glade, my job is to rage about it

check the backlog of skype @tough abyss (or wait ~2 hours so that im back to my PC)

[trim wraith]

I have a question about live editing: Is this method viable for general use with any mod, or does such an approach require some specific scripting in the mod for it to work?

This is from the Antistasi GitHub, and building the mod from there and having this makes the recompile function button work as intended, refreshing the shown function in game. However, I wasn't able to get it with a standalone mod I'm working on.

[tough abyss]

I no longer have Skype installed, I'm afraid.

[still forum]

It depends on how you defined your functions, how you reload scripts "live"
CfgFunctions has a script function that does it
CBA's PREP has a function (I think? does it really? Maybe ACE does that custom?)
Antistasi might have its own, as that script function is called A3A_, that will be specific for antistasi

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/BIS_fnc_recompile I think this for CfgFunctions, never used it I always restart my mission

[trim wraith]

Thank you, I'll try to figure this out but restarting the mission would work as well

With the mission restart method, you simply work with loose mod directory instead of with packaged .phos, right?

[jade abyss]

Same here, no need to anymore. Only installed it for A3 Groupchats

[trim wraith]

Otherwise you'd need to repackage the mod and restart the game if I know correctly

[still forum]

... ish

not in @mod/addons folder
but the mod basically placed directly in game folder
in my case
Arma 3/z/TC/addons/main/config.cpp for TacControl

[queen cargo]

there is the webclient too

[trim wraith]

You have no other mod packages or loose files anywhere else for this?

Or any special directory calling code?

[queen cargo]

http://beta.skype.com

meh

[still forum]

If you have filePatching on, Arma looks up files by their path, in game directory

[queen cargo]

was not right link ... but its something like that

[lone glade]

you can probably access the logs through outlook

[jade abyss]

pff, meh.

[still forum]

in my case my script is in ingame path z/TC/addons/main/init.sqf
So if I put it in
Arma 3/z/TC/addons/main/init.sqf, Arma will load it from there, instead of loading whatever is in my mod's PBO

So I load my normal mod as PBO, but I also have these files in game directory which will override the ones that were in PBO

[trim wraith]

Thank you

One last thing: with this, I'd need to restart the mission to see changes in the function viewer, and recompile function button wouldn't work with it, right?

[still forum]

recompile would also work with that

if you set it up

(allow recompile in CfgFunctions, enable filepatching, call that recompile func)

[trim wraith]

I tried the same approach, but I think instead of trying mission restart, I went with recompile (without having the above-mentioned recompile function embedded) and failed.

[still forum]

all that recompile thing does, is load the script from disk and put it in the variable again

as with filePatching, it loads the script from the separate file, instead of pbo. It doesn't matter if it loads because of mission restart, or loads because you run that recompile func

[queen cargo]

in short: the global variables require a "hack" to be extended
also, the functions are not rly optimized in it

[trim wraith]

Alright, thanks a lot.

[queen cargo]

as said

when i got more time

i could explain further

or you just check the skype backlog ...

or the functions

quite sure if i would dig deeper i would find even more crap in there (just like i did when i just checked out one time CBA ...)

[tough abyss]

Sure. Give me some specifics if you are up to it, when you got some time.

[queen cargo]

and for the PR
no, just no
i wont align to some stupid GVARWhatever shit rules
hell fucking no!
it just makes shit more confusing to read and harder to debug

but it is cool because "YEEE WI UZ MACROZ"

[lone glade]

No it doesn't, GVAR = mod_pbo_varName

[queen cargo]

just that you cant just C&P the var into your clipboard

no you have to resolve it first per hand

like with every other crap macro in there

a waste of time

[lone glade]

You avoid overlapping vars ...

[queen cargo]

pff

you dont

you just do it differently

instead of writing the var by yourself aligned to some convention

you let the macro do that for you

which either shows youre not capable of doing that

or you just wanted to use macros because "they are cool"

[lone glade]

or because it's easier to maintain ?

[queen cargo]

its like saying that youre not allowed to have non-constant constants in your code (eg. foo(10) would not be allowed and the 10 has to be made into a macro)
thats bullshit which costs time

also wrong

[sullen sigil]

is creating a new eachframe missioneventhandler for each setvelocitytransformation then deleting it once the transformation is finished an awful idea

[queen cargo]

where is a macro saving you time to maintain

...

hell

[sullen sigil]

i feel like it is for some reason but i do not know why

[queen cargo]

i could continue like this forever -.- but have to rly leave now

[tough abyss]

I assume you are talking about magic variables.

[lone glade]

good grief

[tough abyss]

Which really is about providing a useful meaning to a value

[jade abyss]

but it is cool because "YEEE WI UZ MACROZ" <-- Totaly agrees...

[still forum]

do the returned ID numbers increase, or do they reset back to low number when they're deleted?

I assume increase, which would be bad when you get into the millions range

I think mission eventhandlers are implemented in a way where it doesn't waste any memory (there are differences between the different handler types)

[queen cargo]

@lone glade while im away, feel free to create some arguments why it is easier to maintain with the macros
i will nicely negate all of em

[lone glade]

Oh you don't need to wait

[queen cargo]

actually i have to

im gone

[lone glade]

it's easier for everyone to type GVAR(size) instead of mod_pbo_varName

[queen cargo]

bb

[still forum]

no typing mistakes in mod_pbo

[daring zinc]

(edited)

the irony

:P

[still forum]

who u mean? ^^

[drowsy geyser]

Is it possible to disable the ability to "disable ai" when hosting a scenario?

[fleet sand]

By Disable Ai what do you mean by that

[little raptor]

No

You can run a loop and check if it changes tho

[drowsy geyser]

I have some conditions like this:
waitUntil {!(isnull someplayername) && time >0};
But if ai disabled I get error

[winter rose]

ah you mean "disable AI for the slot"

[drowsy geyser]

Yes

[winter rose]

if (isNil "somePlayerName") exitWith {};
waitUntil { sleep 0.1; !isNull somePlayerName && time > 0 };

[drowsy geyser]

Thank you!

[trim wraith]

Is there any way to read a vehicle`s parameters in a script file? For example, reading maxSpeed or accelAidForceSpd of a vehicle (and operating on it) direclty without resorting to velocity and direction?

[winter rose]

reading config yes, modifying config no

[trim wraith]

I want to read a vanilla vehicle's maxSpeed, then set accelAidForceSpd to 1/5th of maxSpeed, then add high accelAidForceCoef to it.

[tough abyss]

We all know that X39 is the SQF god.

[winter rose]

see config commands here https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Category:Command_Group:_Config

configOf to get the vehicle's config, then e.g getNumber

private _maxSpeed = getNumber (configOf vehicle player >> "maxSpeed"); // the path may be wrong

[kindred zephyr]

however what you just described is not possible, what you want to modify, both are config entries

[trim wraith]

how do I fetch the parameter value? I try:

private _maxspeed = maxSpeed _veh;

but the syntax parser doesn't recognice maxSpeed
Is using the

_value = getNumber (configFile >> "CfgVehicles" >> "Thing" >> "maxSpeed");

In the Config wiki the right way to do this?

[trim wraith]

ah okay

[kindred zephyr]

instead of wanting to modify both accelAidForceSpd and accelAidForceCoef, artificially simulate them with setVelocityModelSpace

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/setVelocityModelSpace

[trim wraith]

wouldn't this apply immediate velocity changes to current speed? for example, wouldn't it add +10 forward speed immediately and not gradually compared to accelAidForceCoef, which decreases as the speed reaches accelAidForceSpd?

[winter rose]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/setCruiseControl might be what you want

[hallow mortar]

Yes if you used it once with a fixed number, but what you'd actually do is use it repeatedly over time with a scaling number based on how close the speed is to the target speed. Instead of adding a flat 10 once, you might add (targetSpeed - currentSpeed) / 2 every frame the button is pressed, for example.

• actual calculation would be more complex, probably have a cap to avoid insane boost at low speed, safety to prevent negative boosting when above the target speed, etc

[astral bone]

is it a mod or does ["hello world"] call BIS_fnc_error in the eden editor work?

oh wait, I could just ask my original question- How does switch execution order work? xD

private _myFunc = {
    systemChat "0";
    case 1: { systemChat "1" };
    systemChat "2";
};
``` from the switch wiki page, this is acceptable to the game, and has a thing that says "order can be difficult to understand" but doesn't elaborate.

oh wait wrong part xD

well, uh- I just realized this is pointless

[hallow mortar]

That seems like a really niche quirk that you almost certainly don't need to exploit tbh

[astral bone]

Not only that, but I also can't use switches, I don't think. I need to compare numbers, including if greater/less than

[hallow mortar]

switch (true) do {
    case (_num1 < _num2) : { ...```

[astral bone]

Oh huh-

Well I'ma write my code to get it working I think, b/c I am having a hard time even doing that xD

[winter rose]

(un)fortunately this works yeah 😄

[astral bone]

"What if I do X? Oh what about Y! I could do Z maybe?"

[cyan tide]

How do I work with an unpacked pbo file when scripting ArmA3? Because if I work with the pbo file, I cannot update it in the game, I have to close the game and open it again to change my pbo file, which causes a lot of time wasted. I found this thread on the forum but no one seems to have posted a solution.https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/184587-pboprefix-and-filepatching/

[winter rose]

test your script in a separate, empty mission first?

[cyan tide]

Yes, I thought about it, I'll try it, but doing it with PBOPREFIX on the wiki seems to make my job much easier.

[winter rose]

what does it have to do with script? AFAIK you can't read it

[digital hollow]

Is your folder [symlinked] in the Arma 3 install folder?

[cyan tide]

"x\myMod\addons\myAddon" i have this folder structure in my arma3 install folder and also i have my mod in "Mods/MyMod/addons/myMod.pbo" and I load it from here.

[cyan tide]

actually it is a mod but just script code

[winter rose]

then make it work in a mission, then pack it

doing it with PBOPREFIX on the wiki seems to make my job much easier.
no idea what that has to do with it

[cyan tide]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/CMA:DevelopmentSetup#Develop_with_unpacked_data

[winter rose]

that's a 2009 guide, not recommended

[cyan tide]

this seems to be my only option at the moment, thanks

[digital hollow]

What is in your $PBOPREFIX$?

[sullen sigil]

trust lou on that one its lead to me being able to make mods in 2 days

[cyan tide]

actually at the bottom of the page there are these tags and the updated date, it should work in arma 3 but I guess it doesn't work properly.

[cyan tide]

x\myMod\addons\myAddon

[winter rose]

really, if script only I only recommend you to debug them in a mission, I really don't see what issue having a PBO solves
PBOing should only eventually be used for MP testing, and for release, period

[cyan tide]

myAddon file contains my pbo unpacked data, i have only 1 pbo file

[prisma glen]

He's got the antipathy down pat

[sullen sigil]

lmao me who tried to test mp locality of units by just zeus spawning them

[trim wraith]

For some reason I couldn't get the "vehicle player" work in the example, although it works everywhere else as intended.
However, this alternative worked, so thanks a lot:

private _veh = vehicle player;
private _maxSpeed = getNumber (configOf _veh >> "maxSpeed"); 
systemChat (format ["%1",_maxSpeed]);

[digital hollow]

"Mods/MyMod/addons/myMod.pbo" and I load it from here.
is the pbo name myMod or myAddon? we can also dm to avoid taking up too much space here.

[winter rose]

ah, might have been an operator priority issue; getNumber (configOf (vehicle player) >> "maxSpeed") might work
sorry & thanks for the update

[trim wraith]

yes, this works

[astral bone]

getVariable undefied, is it any when formatted?

hint "";
_max = _this getVariable "ratchet_ace_maxFuelCargo";
_cur = _this getVariable "ace_refuel_currentfuelcargo";
hint format ["%1 \n %2",_max,_car];

-1
any```

oh no wait

_car xD
_cur is now <null> which makes more sense then it being any

[tough abyss]

Anyone knows what script I can use?

[tough abyss]

https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/215767-how-to-spawn-a-single-magazine-on-the-ground/

I tried this but none worked

[hallow mortar]

You need to create a GroundWeaponHolder(_Scripted?) and add the magazine to its inventory

[tough abyss]

Sorry I did not quite understand?

[hallow mortar]

Magazines can't exist on their own. You need to create a holder object (classname GroundWeaponHolder) which is a sort of invisible container, and put the magazine in it.

[still forum]

IF the pbo prefix was correctly applied to the pbo
Then you'll have
Arma 3/x/myMod/addons/myAddon/config.cpp
right?

You can open the pbo in Notepad++
if the prefix was correctly applied, you will see
prefix NUL x\myMod\addons\myAddon
close to the start of the pbo
if that is not there, the prefix wasn't correctly applied when packing pbo (setting prefix depends on what tool you use to pack pbo)

[astral bone]

Yall ever forget how math works?
"Why is there 100 left over after I filled up a 650 barrel with 50 already in it with 700? Why isn't it 50?" b/c you already had 50 maybe xD

[granite sky]

Addon builder UI is pretty awful for prefixes and you want to script that.

[granite sky]

Ok, consider if your mod is a giant pile of interconnected shitcode where it's often impossible to test small pieces in isolation.

And yeah, we use filepatching for developing Antistasi :P

[ivory locust]

@still forum Seems like sqf::distance_2d is returning zero for everything

[still forum]

mh code looks correct t ome

https://github.com/intercept/intercept/blob/cf6c17afb2e80a79db987966942b22234a29015f/src/client/intercept/client/sqf/position.cpp#L634 maybe set breakpoint here and confirm that from and to contain correct values

Also you probably should't call sqf for distance_2d
Intercept has native c++ vector functions to do that

[ivory locust]

Ah I see

I'll try them instead
types::vector3::distance_2d is working, thank you

[proven charm]

you mean this https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/BIS_fnc_guiMessage ?

[winter rose]

have less shitcode! 😄
yet I somehow think you have your code in one Eden Editor mission to make it work too

why would the PBO help here, I don't see why?

[granite sky]

Nah, we're a mod these days.

[summer merlin]

Can someone send me a link to animation tutorial/scripting basics? I can't find a noob friendly one? It's a shame to play arma 400+ hours and not know how to script

[jade abyss]

www.google.com

[simple trout]

Yeah it was far easier to develop back when we were a mission.

[jade abyss]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/All_Arma_Commands_Pages

[lone glade]

There really isn't any up to date

the BIKI is your best bet

[tough abyss]

What are you trying to do? Almost all animations are done by model config and not in scripts

[granite sky]

Oddly enough my workflow now is better than when it was a mission :P

[simple trout]

you have been looking at math equations for too long. It's okay john we don't need good dive bombers

[winter rose]

"the Excel file" conundrum?
"wait don't change that, I modified this"

[granite sky]

(this is because my workflow was deeply suboptimal before)

Nah, just never figured it'd run from the editor with a bit of folder mapping.

[simple trout]

God if we had tdd in Antistasi.

[granite sky]

So I'd build the thing to PBO and back Arma out to the main menu each time.

[simple trout]

Lol, I do the same

Really feels like I'm compiling a c++ application everytime

[granite sky]

Mod + filepatching is just save file and restart mission.

Unless you messed with hpp, in which case it's rebuild time.

[simple trout]

lol, we really need a better solutions for members.hpp

file_exists cmd does exists

At this point could BI just bring back the Java Support from Take on Helicopters? lol

[winter rose]

stahp or I will have to ban you all
heathens

:D

[simple trout]

Hold on Lou, what if I promise you 25% percent of all the bitcoins I mine in Java, if you bring back Java /s

[ivory locust]

J*va 😷

[faint oasis]

Hi, is it possible to move an helicopter just above a specific point ? Because i'm making a custom "slingload load/unload" waypoints but the "move" command is not accurate enough for that so is it possible to move an helicopter with very good accuracy like the vanilla "load/unload" command ?

[granite sky]

Because the waypoint terminates at 50m or something?

[faint oasis]

exactly, it's not 50m but yeah 25 meters or above so yeah exactly

[granite sky]

You could do the last bit with some setVelocityTransform horror. Not having any better ideas at the moment.

Maybe if you control the waypoint speed and you know what heli it is you could set the waypoint a bit beyond and it'll be pretty accurate.

Hmm no, waypoint updates are too random for that.

[faint oasis]

i will try the setVelocityTransform to see if it's good or not

[granite sky]

setVelocityTransform stuff will work but it's a lot of work.

Fairly simple case at least.

[winter rose]

can't you hook (hehe) the slingload waypoint itself, as the helicopter's AI does the job already?

[granite sky]

hmm, wonder what happens if you put an invisible landing pad in mid-air :P

[sullen sigil]

ai does try to land on it iirc but has object avoidance

and terrain

[faint oasis]

sadly not because i want to lift objects that don't have "Memory Points" in their models and their P3D are binarized so i can't modify them. I wanted to modify the P3D of the "Container" but it is binarized so i can't do nothing. I didn't try to put an array instead of a memorypoint in the config but i'm pretty sure it's not working. They added this to the "createRope" but i'm not sure if they added this in the config.

[digital hollow]

Could try spawning something that can be slingloaded, and then do a bait-and-switch =p

[faint oasis]

yeah but how do you detect when an object has been taken ? And if i do a switch, i need to unload it after

[digital hollow]

there's a rope connected EH

[winter rose]

that or the normal slingload waypoint that completed

[faint oasis]

ok but how can i hide the object that can be slingloaded without losing the feature ? Because i tried "HideObjectGlobal" but the object is like frozen.

[hallow mortar]

If the real object is big enough, you can simply put the slingload proxy inside it

Also, if modifying the P3D was a possibility, this must be a mod, right? So you can make your own invisible slingload-capable object and include it in the mod

[faint oasis]

Yeah but if "modifying" this simple container p3d was possible then yeah it would be a mod. It's really simple, you just need to create some new memorypoints on the angles and it's almost done. You need to overwrite the container config with the new "slingloadcargomemorypoints" array and it's done. I already did that on my own crates so i know how it's working.

[sullen sigil]

easiest way is to use setObjectTextureGlobal on all its hiddenselections and such

hiding object just makes it no longer exist in the physical plane iirc

[faint oasis]

ah yeah interesting i forget this one

[faint oasis]

Obviously, you need to change the mass too otherwise you won't be able to lift it. I will try just in case to see if we can put positions instead of memorypointsstring but i think it's not working.

[hallow mortar]

My point was that if this is a mod and not a mission, you can add your own invisible slingloadable object to use as a proxy for the non-slingloadable container. You can't do that in a mission since CfgVehicles doesn't work in mission config.

[faint oasis]

then yeah but the object need to be slingloadable and need to have the same size of the container

[hallow mortar]

Well, that's up to you

[faint oasis]

this is not a real problem but i need to attach the container to this object

[hallow mortar]

If only there was some sort of script command which you could use to attach things To other things

[faint oasis]

you can attachTo but the problem is the collisions and especially for the doors collisions

for now the best thing is probably the setVelocityTransformation

[sullen sigil]

is this for a cargo container

[faint oasis]

yep, it's the cargo container 40 and cargo container 20

[sullen sigil]

are those really not sling loadable by default?

[faint oasis]

sadly not 😦

[hallow mortar]

I mean...your new invisible object can have collisions

[faint oasis]

it's not a question of mass, it's a question of memory points. I checked the p3d itself using a converter and there is no memorypoints inside

except 3 that are for the doors

[digital hollow]

Shameless self-promo but you can easily rig those with Sling Load Rigging, albeit not via vanilla magic rope.

[faint oasis]

i don't understand what you mean sorry. What do you mean by "You can easily rig those with Sling Load Rigging" ?

[sullen sigil]

its ampersands mod

[faint oasis]

ah yeah

i saw his mod

[sullen sigil]

(quite a good one)

[faint oasis]

but it's a manual thing, and i want something for the AI

[digital hollow]

If you don't want to worry about attach/detach collision, my initial idea was to use the bait object to get the chopper in place, then script the ropes, and delete the bait object.

[winter rose]

https://tenor.com/view/shame-go-t-game-of-thrones-walk-of-shame-shameful-gif-4949558

[faint oasis]

Btw so thank you, now i will try the setVelocityTransformation to see what i can do.

[sullen sigil]

dont expect to be able to use velocity on setvelocitytransformation

if setvelocity does not work on the object then the velocity parts are ignored

[faint oasis]

yeah i checked and it seems to be something animated with lerp. The only thing i hope is the rope are following the animated vehicle.

[sullen sigil]

so long as theyre attached to it theyll b fine

[faint oasis]

awesome then

[sullen sigil]

currently having to alter how quickly the interval passes to make acceleration effect on a static object for selveltransform

[granite sky]

Note that if your setVelocityTransformation becomes sufficiently complex, it might be cleaner just to set pos/vel/dir in a loop yourself instead.

As far as I know it's just a shortcut to lerping everything yourself.

[faint oasis]

i think i will use the linearinterpolation function because to be honnest it's all i need.

the dir will be the same, the velocity will be stopped, so i just need to lerp the positions

[sullen sigil]

I'm using multiple SVTs on multiple objects at the same time so it's simpler for me to use the same command

my main problem is getting the distance along the curve that will happen prior to doing it and I think I may have to end up using bezierInterpolation to add together the distance between steps

[opal zephyr]

Does "playSound3d" suspend the code until the sound is complete? It seems to be delaying my code running until its done playing...

[crystal lagoon]

If this doesn't work, I'm coming back and beating you with a bag of used socks

[still forum]

Well as I said, it doesn't really, because youre not setting receiving distance thing correctly

people inside jammer won't be able to send

but they can still receive

[crystal lagoon]

I'm fine with it. I don't want to monkey around more than I have to and gives zeuses the ability to inform squad leads of stuff.

I can try the initplayerlocal one, but I don't really understand it

[summer merlin]

I watched many videos, but apperantly, everytime I try anything I always fuc_ up and it doesnt work

Nvm

Nvm I'll try again,

but a link to good tutorial won't hurt

[tough abyss]

There are no tutorials about animations that I am aware of. And from my experience tutorials won't help you learning scripting.

It's all trial and error. Hard work.

[coarse dragon]

is there a way to teleport the player?

[sullen sigil]

setposasl

[stray flame]

hey, ive read that when you spawn groups using scripts, its a good idea to have deletewhenempty on the groups in order to save on long term prefromance

I have a script where I have tried to do that without much sucess

_grpG4 = [getMarkerPos "Enemy_Garrison_3", east, ["OPTRE_Ins_ER_Warlord","OPTRE_Ins_ER_Guerilla_AR","OPTRE_Ins_ER_Militia_MG","OPTRE_Ins_ER_Guerilla_BR","OPTRE_Ins_ER_Guerilla_AR","OPTRE_Ins_ER_Rebel_AT"],0] call BIS_fnc_spawnGroup;   
_wptG4 = _grpG4 addWaypoint [getMarkerPos "Enemy_Garrison_3",5];
_wptG4 setWaypointType "SCRIPTED";
_wptG4 setWaypointScript "\z\lambs\addons\wp\scripts\fnc_wpGarrison.sqf";

sleep 1;

_grpG4p = [getMarkerPos "Enemy_Garrison_3", east, ["OPTRE_Ins_ER_Insurgent_BR"],0] call BIS_fnc_spawnGroup;  
_wptG4p = _grpG4p addWaypoint [getMarkerPos "Enemy_Garrison_2",5];
_wptG4p setWaypointType "SCRIPTED";
_wptG4p setWaypointScript "\z\lambs\addons\wp\scripts\fnc_wpPatrol.sqf";

//rules

sleep 2;
{_x deleteGroupWhenEmpty true;} forEach [_grpG4, _grpG4p]; 
//where the fault is

any suggestions?

[sullen sigil]

you need to specify the group

which is done with _x in forEach loops

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Magic_Variables

[stray flame]

I have tried but no sucsess with _x

do you mean it should be written as it does now?

[sullen sigil]

yes

[stray flame]

ah

whats wrong now?

hu

okay I solved it

somehow

Idk maybe the _x didnt save

[sullen sigil]

it did not

as you can see in that message

[sullen sigil]

Only when into the millions range? Unlikely that many transformations would be happening in one server session 😅
I'll check nevertheless as it's still a consideration that should be made, thanks

Yeah is eachFrame so returned ID number increases once deleted with sqf addMissionEventHandler ["EachFrame", { removeMissionEventHandler [_thisEvent, _thisEventHandler]; }];

[tough parrot]

modes don't work for the land command

[manic kettle]

i'm trying to script the cage onto a vanilla APC using
car1 setObjectTexture [4, (getObjectTextures car1) select 4];
Where select 4 is "a3\armor_f\data\cage_olive_co.paa"

Any clue why this wont work?

[south swan]

wut

[manic kettle]

trying to use https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/setObjectTexture
To apply custom camo options available in the editor garage. But through script

[south swan]

select 4 is "select 5th element of provided array". car1 setObjectTexture [4, (getObjectTextures car1) select 4]; is "set 5th texture of 'car1' object to whatever it's 5th texture is right now"

which translates pretty accurately to "do nothing"

[manic kettle]

wat

so im trying to edit the 5th hiddenselection (slat cage), it starts from 0
Given the 5th texture, which is the cage

[south swan]

and you set the texture to whatever it already is

[manic kettle]

hmmmm i see i see

thats a big brain move right there

[south swan]

because getObjectTextures car1 is "get current textures", and (getObjectTextures car1) select 4 is "get 5th current texture"

[manic kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

[manic kettle]

so how do i get the options listed in the editor vehicle appearance thingimajiger?

using getTexture with the options in seems to give me the standard vanilla textures

[manic kettle]

nevermind i noticed an export command and i figured it out. Thanks booo

[south swan]

you edit the thing to your liking, start the mission, check getObjectTextures output there and use the texture paths it returns. I suppose that would be the easier solution. Or you browse the "TextureSources" subclass of vehicle class and find the texture arrays in its "textures" property

also, remember that hiding/showing the vehicle parts isn't done by retexturing, it's animation. Textures are only responsible for colors and such

for example, "B_APC_Wheeled_01_cannon_F" needs this animateSource ["showSLATHull", 1]; to show the hull cage and this setObjectTexture [4, "texturepath"]; would only color it if it's already shown

[manic kettle]

Ah makes sense

[queen cargo]

Btw. Still waiting for arguments list @lone glade

Not yet home but thought lil gentle reminder helps

[lone glade]

I'm still waiting for you to stop your salt factory

[tough parrot]

it still lands on ground

[sullen sigil]

abort landing if lineintersectssurfaces finds terrain beneath it on each frame 😎

(dont do that)

[tough parrot]

you can't abort landing

well at least not with the land command

[sullen sigil]

make it move above itself

[solar geode]

@lone glade while im away, feel free to create some arguments why it is easier to maintain with the macros
i will nicely negate all of em

The most simple fucking one.

They rename a PBO

No need to ass about replacing it in every single file.

[wary needle]

is it possible to use deformer on pub zeus? if so how?
in comp form btw

[warm hedge]

Deformer is for Eden

[solar geode]

The same reason you use interfaces, abstractions and million other things.

It's not rocket science.

[jade abyss]

and, why would you rename a .pbo?!

[solar geode]

Why wouldn't you? A something goes out of scope of a module and suddenly they are two modules.

[still forum]

If a pbo gets to big they might split it into two or such

[solar geode]

They change their name from ACE to X39PETPEEVE

It's all covered.

[tough abyss]

ACE team decided to use these macros despite them having zero benefits and overcomplicating things needlesly

obviously

[jade abyss]

Still makes no real sense at all.

[tough abyss]

face -> wall

[jade abyss]

Exactly Commy2

[tough abyss]

irony warning

[solar geode]

How does it not make any sense? Unless you're a future teller and you know what your project will look like in a years time, you have to take into account potential restructuring.

[crystal lagoon]

It's also server side.

[solar geode]

Abstracting away crap is needed in larger projects.

[jade abyss]

rolleyes

[tough parrot]

I tried setVelocityTransformation for moving heli into hover position. It plummets after the sequence stops, so I need to have the final altitude at 25m. The up vector has very little effect.

[solar geode]

https://giphy.com/gifs/smash-getting-pro-pCO5tKdP22RC8

[granite sky]

what orders is the heli pilot on?

[tough parrot]

default. I tried flipping the up to [0,0,-1] and it appeared to align the huron rotors to the ground. i take that to mean the up vector is ambiguous for helis.

[granite sky]

wait, what's ambiguous about that

[solar geode]

You're right. Who the fuck needs things like namespaces.

[tough parrot]

at [0,0,1] it maintains a dive angle. it also flips very suddenly with -1 rather than smooth transition, as if it is fighting physics i guess.

[solar geode]

Pointless in every single language that implements them.

[granite sky]

oh, interpolating between [0,0,1] and [0,0,-1]? Yeah you want an extra stage for that.

but I'm fairly sure that you don't actually want your heli upside down here :P

[solar geode]

Oh wait, someone here is making an object oriented sqf thing.

Wait what

Objects in most languages can be EXTENDED

oooooooooooo

Why would you ever extend an object. :O

[jade abyss]

Seems like you have some Problems oO Keep arguing like an adult.

[solar geode]

I'm not the one rolling my eyes.

[tough parrot]

I meant I tried both as the end state from whatever it already is. With [0,0,1] end it actually ends in a dive if it starts in one. You can try it for yourself with this: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D_vmCjQHllLxFc0lo75yKmC8YDbGLC1X/view?usp=share_link. Just unzip to your missions folder. I'm working on a version that can sling cargo around the map.

[granite sky]

Your flyInHeights don't seem to match the movement?

[stray kindle]

Most of CBA should be in Arma 3 by default. Macros are a nice way to ease development. It's especially nice if you don't have to type the same few letters over and over and over again. If you really want to get rid of the macros in the built version one could use a preprocessor during the build process.

[tough parrot]

those are for ai taking over the vertical aspect after it reaches the proper planar position.

[jade abyss]

and? Did i made up such childish stuff like that above? Nope. I am just not in the mood, to argue with somebody, that is arguing like the stuff before.

[granite sky]

the end dir & up are mismatched.

Assuming you want the thing flat at the end, you'd need something like

_endDir = vectorDir _heli;
_endDir = vectorNormalized [_endDir#0, _endDir#1, 0];

[neat monolith]

Hello, How can I play a video inside a mission activated by a trigger? I am useing it this:

private _video = ["A3\Missions_F_EPA\video\A_in_intro.ogv"] spawn BIS_fnc_playVideo;

And I see it, but the rest of the players on the server not

[granite sky]

You could try ["A3\Missions_F_EPA\video\A_in_intro.ogv"] remoteExec ["BIS_fnc_playVideo", 0];

[jade abyss]

" Unless you're a future teller "

[granite sky]

I wouldn't necessarily expect the heli to just stay where you put it afterwards though.

Arma AI never does what you want it to do :P

[tough parrot]

Ah. I was mixing up dir and up. Also the while condition is tricky. With that code 0.1 will make it get stuck.

[granite sky]

should just use interval > 1 really, and make sure it finishes the final setVelocityTransformation

[stray kindle]

One could argue about the helper functions. They aren't needed in most mods. And if you're only using one or two things from CBA then probably you don't need CBA.

[jade abyss]

+restructuring almost always happens, that happens. So, pff

[granite sky]

ok, I changed those two things and it's pretty good apart from kinda stopping kinda dead above the UGV :P

would be good with with some quadratic position interp.

AI -> setVelocityTransformation transition is nearly seamless.

[solar geode]

It's clearly hyperbole. As you say restructuring is the reality of a lot of apps.

[jade abyss]

erm, @stray kindle , cba was in General Chat :D

[granite sky]

Also using start = end for the dir & up works fine until it actually reaches 9m, and then you get a bit of backswing. Would depend on how well the AI was controlling the approach though.

[solar geode]

Why not plan ahead and reduce your workload in the future?

[tough parrot]

Are you sure? If it is stopping dead your while is probably still getting stuck. I had clipping on linearConversion set to true. So if you used !(_interval > 1) as condition it will not complete. For me it almost bombs into the ground when it is complete.