#arma3_model | ARMA | Page 159

terse scroll Nov 13, 2020, 1:50 PM

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Hey! I am currently working on upgrading an old custom pylon system to the new arma 3 dynamic loadouts system. I built a model with CfgNonAIVehicles simulation pylonpod, and it has 4 proxies in it of the hellfire model which have been given simulation maverickweapon. This seems to work perfectly, other than the model that we are using for the hellfire is not being used and instead the default Maverick pylon. I am assuming I have not got a config somewhere specifying what model the pylon should be using for the ammo. Where is this defined? I am preparing a minimal config example of what I have written

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https://ibb.co/CV6wgbn

polar fiber Nov 13, 2020, 1:53 PM

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proxyShape in cfgAmmo

terse scroll Nov 13, 2020, 1:55 PM

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Thank you very much! I think that has helped me track down my mistake

terse scroll Nov 13, 2020, 2:24 PM

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https://ibb.co/Z8QtSbX Great, thank you! The misalignment is to do with the proxies positioning, your information worked perfectly!

wraith socket Nov 13, 2020, 3:45 PM

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Hey, if anyone has any ideas why my model looks like this in bulldozer(https://i.imgur.com/Eeg27vv.png) then ingame like this (https://i.imgur.com/aYKLMtq.png)
i'd love to hear it

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I circled those red parts because I can tell its my mesh

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but the default arma material is somehow being applied

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The weird shadows are another thing but I can figure that out separately

stuck oyster Nov 13, 2020, 3:48 PM

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you likely have not cleared your model from the personality selection hl and the camo selections for hiddenselectiontextures

polar fiber Nov 13, 2020, 3:48 PM

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because you have some selection names applied to it that you shouldn't

wraith socket Nov 13, 2020, 3:48 PM

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oh yeah thats it

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thanks !

stuck oyster Nov 13, 2020, 3:49 PM

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your shadowlod probably has those too

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as it seems to bug

wraith socket Nov 13, 2020, 3:50 PM

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yeah, I used a data transfer in blender for the vertex groups

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before taking it into OB

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so they will be there for sure

orchid spruce Nov 14, 2020, 11:32 AM

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how do I set the center in a p3d?

runic plover Nov 14, 2020, 2:04 PM

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@orchid spruce what do you mean exactly?

orchid spruce Nov 14, 2020, 2:11 PM

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do p3ds not have some kind of center point to them? like what is considered the middle of the vehicle

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if autocenter is disabled, what does it consider the center?

quick terrace Nov 14, 2020, 2:12 PM

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afaik the boundry box of the mesh itself

orchid spruce Nov 14, 2020, 2:13 PM

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so how do I set it to be a different point?

stuck oyster Nov 14, 2020, 2:16 PM

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Move all lods

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Or create centering verticles

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Why do you need to change it?

orchid spruce Nov 14, 2020, 2:27 PM

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my vehicle has some asymmetrical parts which I think causes the center of mass to end up being off to the side, I think that might be what makes it tilt slightly to one side

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or it's not centering it at all so the center stays at 0,0,0, since that's where the ace interact position ends up being and also when I go through virtual garage the camera starts on the floor unlike all the other vehicles

stuck oyster Nov 14, 2020, 2:29 PM

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Sounds like it may have all kinds of trouble

orchid spruce Nov 14, 2020, 2:29 PM

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yeah it has issues

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Or create centering verticles
how do I do this?

quick terrace Nov 14, 2020, 2:33 PM

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you mean geo lod mass?

orchid spruce Nov 14, 2020, 2:34 PM

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I don't know

runic plover Nov 14, 2020, 2:54 PM

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You have to adjust the landcontact and you have to adjust the mass in the geometry

orchid spruce Nov 14, 2020, 2:55 PM

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the mass is completely symmetrical in the geometry, the components that aren't symmetrical have no mass

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the landcontact is also symmetrical

runic plover Nov 14, 2020, 2:55 PM

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So, when you select whole geometry, where is the blue point at?

orchid spruce Nov 14, 2020, 2:56 PM

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the what?

runic plover Nov 14, 2020, 2:56 PM

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When you select the geometry, there shows a blue point, thats the mass center

orchid spruce Nov 14, 2020, 2:56 PM

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there is no blue point

runic plover Nov 14, 2020, 2:57 PM

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OB or Blender?

orchid spruce Nov 14, 2020, 2:57 PM

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object builder

polar fiber Nov 14, 2020, 2:58 PM

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All parts of the model count towards the model centre. Including get in/out memory points, proxy triangles etc etc

runic plover Nov 14, 2020, 2:59 PM

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I got in OB a blue fat point with a little blue cross trough the blue point. That shows me the mass center of the whole geometry when i select the whole geometry

orchid spruce Nov 14, 2020, 3:01 PM

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I don't have anything like that anywhere

subtle bison Nov 14, 2020, 3:18 PM

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i have added some stuff to the front of my car. it works in all normal lods, but in the view-cargo lod the texture isn't shown. i found out that this is because of the front window of the car

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anyone got any idea how to fix this?

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if i shoot out the front window, the texture suddenly shows. otherwise it's flat white

runic plover Nov 14, 2020, 3:19 PM

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is the window a seperated face?

subtle bison Nov 14, 2020, 3:19 PM

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yes

runic plover Nov 14, 2020, 3:19 PM

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select it, ctrl copy, delete it, ctrl paste

subtle bison Nov 14, 2020, 3:19 PM

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ok

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that fixed it. awesome.

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thanks

polar fiber Nov 14, 2020, 3:44 PM

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select it, ctrl copy, delete it, ctrl paste
@runic plover Faces>>Move Top

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And best to select all faces by texture+material section before performing those sorting operations or copy & pasting, otherwise your section count goes up

runic plover Nov 14, 2020, 3:49 PM

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yes had to fix some sections already ^^ you're right

subtle bison Nov 14, 2020, 3:52 PM

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selections are the biggest pain. had quite some issues with them already in the past

stuck oyster Nov 14, 2020, 4:30 PM

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DX view mode does not show the center of mass btw.

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So @orchid spruce you need to turn that off to see it

orchid spruce Nov 14, 2020, 4:35 PM

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oh yeah

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well the center of mass seems about right, pretty much centered

stuck oyster Nov 14, 2020, 4:37 PM

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prettymuch is not good enough

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even slight deviation from center will cause tilting and trouble

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is your model properly modeled symmetrically around the center

orchid spruce Nov 14, 2020, 4:39 PM

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the geometry lod is

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at least I'm pretty sure it is

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does it need to be 100% perfectly symmetrical?

stuck oyster Nov 14, 2020, 4:44 PM

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well no

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but preferably in the in the middle between the wheels would be centered

orchid spruce Nov 14, 2020, 4:51 PM

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it is in the middle, it's only a few pixels off to one side

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so could the visual lods being not entirely symmetrical somehow affect the tilting?

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the vehicle itself is pretty much symmetrical as any armored vehicle, it just has some bits attached to the sides that are different on each side

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like boxes and stuff

stuck oyster Nov 14, 2020, 4:59 PM

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should not

orchid spruce Nov 14, 2020, 5:15 PM

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does component mass affect anything other than center of mass?

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as in, mass distribution, not overall mass

stuck oyster Nov 14, 2020, 5:20 PM

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yes

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thats what the blue dot/cross is for

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📎 unknown.png

orchid spruce Nov 14, 2020, 5:23 PM

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yeah so that's center of mass

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I mean is there anything wrong with just making some component near the bottom way heavier than all the other ones to bring the center of mass closer to the ground?

stuck oyster Nov 14, 2020, 5:23 PM

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no that usually makes handling better

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if you are very top heavy it will tip over easily

orchid spruce Nov 14, 2020, 5:25 PM

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okay good

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wasn't sure if that was gonna break something else

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so it really seems like center of mass is not what's causing the tilt I'm getting

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I also don't think it's a config because the config I have is mostly copied from another vehicle that doesn't have any issues

stoic blaze Nov 14, 2020, 6:00 PM

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Is there a way to make an object larger than 50x50 meters have collision, without having to add multiple collision meshes?

stuck oyster Nov 14, 2020, 7:18 PM

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no, when the limit is reached thats it

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50x50 is considered safe size

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and it varies a little depending on terrain settings

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but there is no quarantees things work right after 50x50

orchid spruce Nov 14, 2020, 11:23 PM

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well I somehow fixed the issue with my vehicle center being at 0,0,0, it was because of some named property in some lod

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I think it was because the geometry lod had a autocenter 0 property

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I think deleting that is what fixed it, now in virtual garage the camera looks centered like other vehicles and the ACE interact gets placed properly in the middle

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I think I'm just gonna have to live with the tilt though, can't figure that one out at all

stuck oyster Nov 14, 2020, 11:35 PM

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cars must not have autocenter 0

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or vehicles

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so yes sounds like that would cause the issues you saw

orchid spruce Nov 15, 2020, 12:13 AM

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when I changed something in a visual lod and resaved the file suddenly the autocenter 0 is back in the geometry lod

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what the hell

stuck oyster Nov 15, 2020, 12:16 AM

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perhaps you have duplicate lods

orchid spruce Nov 15, 2020, 12:17 AM

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I guess when I copy pasted something into the lod it also brought the property with it or something

stuck oyster Nov 15, 2020, 12:18 AM

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yes that would do it too

runic plover Nov 15, 2020, 4:04 AM

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yes autocenter 0 is not needed for vehicles. and also yes, if you copy the geometry of a model in to a other model, it will also copy its properties.

stuck oyster Nov 15, 2020, 4:11 AM

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must not be used on vehicles*

sterile kiln Nov 15, 2020, 7:05 PM

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I have ine more problem before i can publish my model

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To the main mod that is

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I can walk through it

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And im not sure what component handles colliders

stuck oyster Nov 15, 2020, 7:19 PM

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Geometry lod

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Wiki page for lods and sample on steam should point you in right direction

sterile kiln Nov 15, 2020, 7:27 PM

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Strange, i meet all the requirements...

sterile kiln Nov 15, 2020, 8:03 PM

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I got it nvm

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So i wanna start working on a vest now, where can i get a base character for measurements?

polar fiber Nov 15, 2020, 8:05 PM

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Arma 3 samples on steam

sterile kiln Nov 15, 2020, 8:05 PM

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Thx

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I cant import ascii fbx files or smth

polar fiber Nov 15, 2020, 8:10 PM

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What software you using?

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Blender?

sterile kiln Nov 15, 2020, 8:14 PM

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Yeah

polar fiber Nov 15, 2020, 8:20 PM

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Then I'd just use the Arma toolbox and import the .p3ds directly

stuck oyster Nov 15, 2020, 8:46 PM

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👆

sterile kiln Nov 15, 2020, 11:36 PM

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Yeah tried that, kinda fucks up for me aswel, ill take a look tomorrow

sterile kiln Nov 16, 2020, 7:09 AM

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Help, my p3ds wont import! :/

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Does anyone have a .fbx of the example character that works for them in blender 1.8? If so, please send it to me if you can

sterile kiln Nov 16, 2020, 7:40 AM

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I really dont know what i could do to fix this

median bough Nov 16, 2020, 7:57 AM

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Blender should have native fbx import

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Not "open with blender", open blender and use "import"
@sterile kiln

sterile kiln Nov 16, 2020, 8:00 AM

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Ive done tha

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I get an error, version 6100 not supported minimum 7100

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@median bough

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Or when i do the template it says ascii fbx not supported

median bough Nov 16, 2020, 8:03 AM

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Strange...
You could try a "workaround" until smb more knowledgeable is awake:
Open fbx in OB, export as P3d, import in blender using blender arma 3 toolbox

sterile kiln Nov 16, 2020, 8:03 AM

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Ill try that

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Thx

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What are thise strange triangles i see?

median bough Nov 16, 2020, 8:04 AM

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Proxies most likely

sterile kiln Nov 16, 2020, 8:04 AM

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Ughhh it doesnt work either

median bough Nov 16, 2020, 8:04 AM

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Sorry mate... No idea then

sterile kiln Nov 16, 2020, 8:05 AM

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Hmffff, so frustrating

median bough Nov 16, 2020, 8:09 AM

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Welcome to arma modding 😉 🤣

sterile kiln Nov 16, 2020, 8:16 AM

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Loll

foggy finch Nov 16, 2020, 10:31 AM

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version 6100 not supported minimum 7100
that's due to blender not supporting earlier versions of FBX.

stuck oyster Nov 16, 2020, 12:11 PM

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@sterile kiln what p3ds are you trying to import?

sterile kiln Nov 16, 2020, 12:12 PM

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Ill send it

stuck oyster Nov 16, 2020, 12:13 PM

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No just write where its from

sterile kiln Nov 16, 2020, 12:13 PM

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Its from the arma 3 examples

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its

A3 character tamplate

stuck oyster Nov 16, 2020, 12:13 PM

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K so did you install the Blender Arma toolbox addon?

sterile kiln Nov 16, 2020, 12:13 PM

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Yep

stuck oyster Nov 16, 2020, 12:13 PM

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From github?

sterile kiln Nov 16, 2020, 12:14 PM

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Uh i dont think from github, from armaholic

stuck oyster Nov 16, 2020, 12:14 PM

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Yep well that's the issue

sterile kiln Nov 16, 2020, 12:14 PM

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Ill try taht thx

stuck oyster Nov 16, 2020, 12:14 PM

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Github has the latest version that works with latest version of blender

sterile kiln Nov 16, 2020, 12:15 PM

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https://github.com/AlwarrenSidh/ArmAToolbox/releases

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Is this it?

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It says latest release 2019

stuck oyster Nov 16, 2020, 12:16 PM

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Yes that is the one.

sterile kiln Nov 16, 2020, 12:17 PM

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Ah you saint it works now

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Wait what....

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It worked for like one time, then i was deleting triangles, then blender crashed and now it doesnt work

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ughhhhhh

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Well it somehow worked now, i exported it quickly as fbx

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so now i have it. Thanks! @stuck oyster

stuck oyster Nov 16, 2020, 12:29 PM

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Why in fbx?

sterile kiln Nov 16, 2020, 1:20 PM

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So i can use it in more projects

stuck oyster Nov 16, 2020, 1:28 PM

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projects?

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Arma models are meant for Arma use only

polar fiber Nov 16, 2020, 1:42 PM

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Said yesterday he wanted it for modelling a vest to scare IIRC

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in which case you don't want to open the template file anyway, you want the example file

sterile kiln Nov 16, 2020, 2:34 PM

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Arma models are meant for Arma use only
@stuck oyster Projects as in different vests, different mods etc

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/514488646615695370/777899720953036810/Screenshot_280.png

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I dont rly know about the front plate

stuck oyster Nov 16, 2020, 2:40 PM

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then you dont need to save as fbx after importing the p3d. saving it as normal .blend file will keep it safe

sterile kiln Nov 16, 2020, 2:42 PM

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I do, other people i know who want to use it use maya etc

lethal anchor Nov 16, 2020, 4:11 PM

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Hello All this may be a dumb question. I am unable to find an example human model to base my vest around. Can someone help me I've been unable to find an example in samples

stuck oyster Nov 16, 2020, 4:15 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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@lethal anchor

sterile kiln Nov 16, 2020, 4:32 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/514488646615695370/777933825668808704/Screenshot_285.png

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Hello All this may be a dumb question. I am unable to find an example human model to base my vest around. Can someone help me I've been unable to find an example in samples
@lethal anchor You have the exact same problem i had hahah

lethal anchor Nov 16, 2020, 4:35 PM

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ye I found it looking in there. I am getting this tho. https://gyazo.com/a6a41847453af7c0208f41a7fe26ba58

stuck oyster Nov 16, 2020, 4:35 PM

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yes that is correct

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the model has multiple technical lods and parts

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not just the visual mesh

lethal anchor Nov 16, 2020, 4:38 PM

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so unticking all off it looks like fire geometry is the closest to human model

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I am prsuming this is the same for all

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?

stuck oyster Nov 16, 2020, 4:38 PM

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wut

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🙈

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maybe check the 1.00 lod

polar fiber Nov 16, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Example doesn't have a 0.00 LOD, 1.00 is the first LOD

stuck oyster Nov 16, 2020, 4:39 PM

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fixdit

lethal anchor Nov 16, 2020, 4:41 PM

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sorry I am completely new to this lol facepalms First lod appears to be humanoid now

polar fiber Nov 16, 2020, 4:41 PM

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And as I said before, make sure you load example, not template. Template is just the proxies and arms and legs, no torso

sterile kiln Nov 16, 2020, 4:41 PM

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sorry I am completely new to this lol facepalms First lod appears to be humanoid now
@lethal anchor lol, welcome to hell!

lethal anchor Nov 16, 2020, 4:43 PM

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Thanks haha, I apricate the help during my brain haemorrhage that occured

river kite Nov 16, 2020, 9:21 PM

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having again a problem with my vehicle, it moves completly as it should be, only when im braking it stays completly straight and doesnt move down at the front any suggestions why this occurs ?

median bough Nov 16, 2020, 10:30 PM

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what kind of vehicle do you have?

river kite Nov 16, 2020, 10:38 PM

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4 wheeled car

stuck oyster Nov 16, 2020, 10:38 PM

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how do you expect it to move then?

river kite Nov 16, 2020, 10:39 PM

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Wheel when u drive and then brake it should move a bit down at the front suspension

stuck oyster Nov 16, 2020, 10:40 PM

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then probably your suspension config needs tweaking

river kite Nov 16, 2020, 10:42 PM

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The thing is when u accelerate forward and backwards its moving right . Accelerate forward front goes slightly up and back down for reverse driving the opposite

sterile kiln Nov 17, 2020, 12:06 PM

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So, ive just made my vest in blender: now to step 2, weight painting. How would i do that? Is there a guide?

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Cause i dont see any skeleton in the example file

stuck oyster Nov 17, 2020, 1:09 PM

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Technically skeleton is not mandatory for weight painting but of course its very useful for checking it.
You can use Macsers armarig for that.
Also you can use weight transfer to project the sample characters weights on your model as a base.

sterile kiln Nov 17, 2020, 1:37 PM

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Right

stuck oyster Nov 17, 2020, 3:00 PM

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sounds more complex than it is. there are simple steps for it online

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or you can even search on this discord for my steps with pointy arrow pictures

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although the pics might be from blender 2.79 so not 100% accurate anymore in regards where buttons are

frosty rain Nov 18, 2020, 2:15 AM

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When I place my building on the editor my arma crashes, this is only happening after I added a shadow volume lod

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I have 5580 triangles in my shadow lod

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And its closed, triangulated and edges are sharp

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https://imgur.com/a/ICpkzZA

stuck oyster Nov 18, 2020, 2:21 AM

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that is a very complex shadow

frosty rain Nov 18, 2020, 2:24 AM

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https://imgur.com/a/81lk1UM

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How should I modify it?

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It's my first time making a shadow lod so i dont have much of an idea of what to do lol

stuck oyster Nov 18, 2020, 2:24 AM

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well you could just use sbSource = visualEx named property

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but its probably not the shadow lod

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check the rpt log if it tells anything about whats happening

frosty rain Nov 18, 2020, 2:25 AM

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I'll check them give me a min

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Warning: myke_client\buildings\sheriffsoffice.p3d: Degenerated triangle found on source triangles (1317,1316,1316)

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a bunch of these

stuck oyster Nov 18, 2020, 2:30 AM

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probably problems with your model overall then

frosty rain Nov 18, 2020, 2:36 AM

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I'll check it

frosty rain Nov 18, 2020, 3:09 AM

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Alright managed to fix it, some window frames were causing the problem, thanks goat

quick terrace Nov 18, 2020, 9:49 AM

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Alright managed to fix it, some window frames were causing the problem, thanks goat
@frosty rain
SVLod should be 1500 verts

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anything above can lead to performance issues

frosty rain Nov 18, 2020, 9:51 AM

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Verts are 949 so should be ok

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what I'm getting is when I start arma up and place the building arma freezes for like a second or less and then it places it

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It did that with the res lod only too, verts are 15039, tris are 27676

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8 sections

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what could be causing that stutter?

orchid spruce Nov 18, 2020, 9:53 AM

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I assume the model is binarized?

frosty rain Nov 18, 2020, 9:53 AM

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Don't think it is lol

orchid spruce Nov 18, 2020, 9:54 AM

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unbinarized models will always cause that stutter

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it should be binarized, that makes sure it's optimized for the engine

frosty rain Nov 18, 2020, 9:54 AM

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Ohhh

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thank you so much

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thought it was something to do with my optimization

quick terrace Nov 18, 2020, 9:55 AM

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are you using multimats?

frosty rain Nov 18, 2020, 9:57 AM

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Nope

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Texturing with substance painter

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if you're referring to that

balmy umbra Nov 18, 2020, 10:01 AM

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is Arma Toolbox by Alwarren good? im just starting modelling

frosty rain Nov 18, 2020, 10:01 AM

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Yes

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Very very useful

balmy umbra Nov 18, 2020, 10:02 AM

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ah okay, just starting learning blender

frosty rain Nov 18, 2020, 10:02 AM

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If you have any questions here just ask, people are generally very helpful!

balmy umbra Nov 18, 2020, 10:02 AM

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yes i know 😂

sterile kiln Nov 18, 2020, 10:17 AM

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So ive just weight painted my vest, its all good: what do i do know? do i delete everything besides the rig?

quick terrace Nov 18, 2020, 10:22 AM

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@frosty rain if you are doing buildings, you should use multimats instead

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would reduce these 8 sections

stuck oyster Nov 18, 2020, 10:31 AM

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If those are 4k textures by any chance they be massive strain on the machine

sterile kiln Nov 18, 2020, 10:31 AM

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What causes the "detected unbinarised p3d's" error in eliteness, and how do i fix it?

frosty rain Nov 18, 2020, 10:32 AM

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They are 4k textures

sterile kiln Nov 18, 2020, 10:32 AM

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@frosty rain I always use 2k

stuck oyster Nov 18, 2020, 10:32 AM

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@sterile kiln since you work in blender no need to delete other stuff. You can use the Arma toolbox P3d export to export only selected objects

sterile kiln Nov 18, 2020, 10:32 AM

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@sterile kiln since you work in blender no need to delete other stuff. You can use the Arma toolbox P3d export to export only selected objects
@stuck oyster So i only export the vest and its geometries, and not the skeleton?

frosty rain Nov 18, 2020, 10:32 AM

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@sterile kiln was responding to goat haha

stuck oyster Nov 18, 2020, 10:32 AM

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@sterile kiln pack with pboproject

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And yes just the vest lod objects

sterile kiln Nov 18, 2020, 10:33 AM

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ah roger

frosty rain Nov 18, 2020, 10:33 AM

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Would I be able to texture in substance painter and also use multimats?

stuck oyster Nov 18, 2020, 10:34 AM

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Not really I think

sterile kiln Nov 18, 2020, 10:34 AM

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Why use multimats? Cant u just use a rvmat?

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or is that same/very different

stuck oyster Nov 18, 2020, 10:34 AM

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Multimat is a type of rvmat

sterile kiln Nov 18, 2020, 10:34 AM

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ah lmao

frosty rain Nov 18, 2020, 10:34 AM

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The way I'm doing it is I use a supershader

stuck oyster Nov 18, 2020, 10:34 AM

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Ye that won't be good

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Read the wiki pages of multimaterial

sterile kiln Nov 18, 2020, 10:36 AM

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Ugh it still gives the unbinarised p3d's

frosty rain Nov 18, 2020, 10:36 AM

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You have to binarize them

stuck oyster Nov 18, 2020, 10:36 AM

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What are you doing with elitenezz

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You doing weird stuff

frosty rain Nov 18, 2020, 10:37 AM

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👀

sterile kiln Nov 18, 2020, 10:37 AM

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Just createPbo

stuck oyster Nov 18, 2020, 10:37 AM

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No

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Use pboproject

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🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈

sterile kiln Nov 18, 2020, 10:38 AM

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Ah will try

frosty rain Nov 18, 2020, 10:38 AM

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thanks for the help goat

sterile kiln Nov 18, 2020, 10:42 AM

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Yeah

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hmm pboProject says smth with thte p3d aswel....

median bough Nov 18, 2020, 10:55 AM

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what error to be precise?

stuck oyster Nov 18, 2020, 11:01 AM

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Need to have correct folder structure and config files for it too

quartz prism Nov 18, 2020, 2:07 PM

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Hi, I have th following problem. I want to make a building with roof windows, where the Sun is shining through. Everything was fine until its starts raining. I found in this discord that the shadowlod effects the rainfall inside a building. Does anyone have a solution for this Problem?

old citrus Nov 18, 2020, 3:51 PM

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@quartz prism how did you create the Shadow LOD ? and what does it look like ?

quartz prism Nov 18, 2020, 4:21 PM

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I am creating the shadow LOD out of the visual model, by deleting the window parts and closing everything else.

old citrus Nov 18, 2020, 4:26 PM

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@quartz prism can you show me a picture real quick ?

quartz prism Nov 18, 2020, 4:27 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/CaPSFYK.png

old citrus Nov 18, 2020, 4:32 PM

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hmm i was thinking its because of bad Topology or someting because some people just slap a decimate modifier on shadows and then wonder why its not working correctly but it doesnt seem like thats the case I just thought I could help you with that tbh but iam not sure what you could try but isnt good for performance is cast a shadow from the Geometry its a little trick i sometimes use but its not super good for performance. If you want to try that you just need to give your Geo this property --- Name : Sbsource / Value : Visualex

quartz prism Nov 18, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Ok thanks I will try it.

frosty rain Nov 18, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Is 8 sections fine for a medium sized building?

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And about 27k tris

icy terrace Nov 18, 2020, 5:28 PM

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anyone here know how tracers work ?
if i spawn them with createVehicle, Createsimpleobject or createvehicleLocal, they dont have the light effect.

old citrus Nov 18, 2020, 5:30 PM

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Is 8 sections fine for a medium sized building?
@frosty rain IMO 8 Sections are fine, and for a medium 27k tris isnt perfect but its fine for LOD 0 as long as you got Distance LODs.

frosty rain Nov 18, 2020, 5:31 PM

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Alright thanks

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I’ve got 4 distance lods so should be fine i think

old citrus Nov 18, 2020, 5:32 PM

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I’ve got 4 distance lods so should be fine i think
@frosty rain 4 is Ok. how many tris does your last LOD have ?

frosty rain Nov 18, 2020, 5:33 PM

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Uhh let me turn on my pc give me a sec

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4121

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Should probably do some more res lods right? @old citrus

old citrus Nov 18, 2020, 5:41 PM

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Uhh let me turn on my pc give me a sec
@frosty rain yeah 4k is a bit high is that 4.0 or 5.0 ?

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Uhh let me turn on my pc give me a sec
@frosty rain I would allways try to half your last Lod so LOD 1 is 15k , LOD 2 is 7k , LOD 3, 3.5 k , LOD 4 1.75 k and LOD 5 is around 800

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but if possible go as low as possible for the last LOD.

frosty rain Nov 18, 2020, 6:22 PM

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Its 3.0, i started with 0.0 @old citrus

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I’ll try to do 2 more so it can go to 2k and then about 1k

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What’s the best way for lowering tris count? I simply use the decimate modifier in blender and so far no issues

stuck oyster Nov 18, 2020, 6:26 PM

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@old citrus visualEx has bedt shadow performance actually.

woeful viper Nov 18, 2020, 6:51 PM

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doing smaller steps than halfing each LOD can just lead to the LOD selector algorithm to skip over the LOD in the middle

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i did 100%, 70%, 50% and it just skips over the 70% one (or displays it for about 5m before it chooses the next lower) - for a tank

subtle bison Nov 18, 2020, 7:17 PM

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yeh, noticed stuff like that as well in the past

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sometimes it's like flipping right through the lods while you didnt really change distance a lot

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makes me wonder if it wouldnt have been better to be able to manually define when to change lod levels

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but i guess something like this would just f- with the video graphic settings.

stuck oyster Nov 18, 2020, 7:29 PM

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Manual defining would tank scene performance

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So no

subtle bison Nov 18, 2020, 7:34 PM

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depends. it could be used as optimal setting and the engine itself would failsafe to some automatic calculation if necessary :>

stuck oyster Nov 18, 2020, 7:57 PM

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but engine would immediately have to default ot the failsafe because everyone wants their quality lods to show and then you get 1 fps

subtle bison Nov 18, 2020, 10:27 PM

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well that's a problem for the people who make their stuff like that :p

rough idol Nov 18, 2020, 10:34 PM

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You can already control how fast lods are switching via named property

frosty rain Nov 19, 2020, 12:17 AM

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when assigning the named selections for like doors on the resolution lods can i just copy and paste the selection from the first res lod into the others or do i have to manually assign the selections for each res lod?

stuck oyster Nov 19, 2020, 12:21 AM

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manually assign

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the parts are not connected in anyway

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it could be adviceable to make the selections before you make lods

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https://tenor.com/view/feel-me-think-about-it-meme-gif-7715402

Tenor

frosty rain Nov 19, 2020, 12:23 AM

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I did it as vertex groups on blender and imported as p3d and it worked

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BUT

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the materials didn't show up

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So im exporting as OBJ and that saves the materials but not the vertex groups lol

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so i just manually assign the named selections

stuck oyster Nov 19, 2020, 12:25 AM

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you have not assigned the arma mataerial/texture paths on your model

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going trhrough .obj is sillyness

frosty rain Nov 19, 2020, 12:26 AM

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how do i assign it on blender?

stuck oyster Nov 19, 2020, 12:26 AM

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in the materal tab

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at the bottom

frosty rain Nov 19, 2020, 12:26 AM

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custom properties?

stuck oyster Nov 19, 2020, 12:26 AM

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no

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not that bottom

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assuming the objects arma properties are enabled

frosty rain Nov 19, 2020, 12:27 AM

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yep

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Oh I found it

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damn you'll save me so much time for my next building lol

stuck oyster Nov 19, 2020, 12:43 AM

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👍

frosty rain Nov 19, 2020, 3:54 AM

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When the sun hits my glass mirror it looks white from the outside but clear from the inside

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Could it be my rvmats?

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https://pmc.editing.wiki/doku.php?id=arma:texturing:reflective_glass_tut I followed this tutorial

stuck oyster Nov 19, 2020, 4:05 AM

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probalby face sorting is not done

frosty rain Nov 19, 2020, 7:00 AM

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Did that and didn't fix it, changed the rvmat and got fixed lol

dense hedge Nov 19, 2020, 8:28 AM

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Short question, do you guys know if it's a model related issue when the barrel of a tank is not aligned with the scope while aiming up and down?

rough idol Nov 19, 2020, 9:17 AM

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model.cfg related, I think someone had similar problem not that long ago

sterile kiln Nov 19, 2020, 10:07 AM

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What can cause a vest to crash arma? https://we.tl/t-mdKi9CcRgd

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getting this error

11:14:02 Error: scp_vests\mtf_vest.p3d: Shadow polygon doesn't have 3 vertices - it has not been considered.

white jay Nov 19, 2020, 10:31 AM

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Have you made sure that you only used triangle faces in your shadow lod? Although I'm quite sure the error msg for polygons used was different, would be my first thing to check

sterile kiln Nov 19, 2020, 10:32 AM

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Yes

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https://pastebin.com/unrk8Q2k

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I cant find anything wrong...

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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1v7VTKLrnKDgLUpsGBfjn9BwVMNlwLBxw/view?usp=sharing

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This is my p3d

white jay Nov 19, 2020, 10:38 AM

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Im only on phone rn, sorry

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/arma.RPT

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But are you really sure about not using n-gons?

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This wiki post is pointing to it, too

sterile kiln Nov 19, 2020, 10:46 AM

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But are you really sure about not using n-gons?
@white jay ill check thx

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Yeah its clean of ngons

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Its all triangles

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Im tracking it down now

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I fixed the first error now its this

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Opposite edge to P(4916, 4917) was not found - shadow geometry is not closed.

runic plover Nov 19, 2020, 11:28 AM

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Do you work with OB?

sterile kiln Nov 19, 2020, 11:28 AM

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Well i just fixed that one aswel: it imports, kinda

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No texture

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And for some reason, its at the feet

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Any idea what could cause that @runic plover ?

runic plover Nov 19, 2020, 11:30 AM

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Its a vest?

sterile kiln Nov 19, 2020, 11:30 AM

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Yes

runic plover Nov 19, 2020, 11:31 AM

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Does it have selections like Spine1, Spine2 and Spine3?

sterile kiln Nov 19, 2020, 11:31 AM

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In OB?

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Yes it does

runic plover Nov 19, 2020, 11:31 AM

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OB or Blender (I onky work with OB)

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Does it also have a model.cfg and does the p3d file has the same name like the cfgModels defined vest?

sterile kiln Nov 19, 2020, 11:33 AM

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Yes

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I can see the model

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Ill send a scs wait one

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It takes a while to load, it kinda freezes when i click on the vest

runic plover Nov 19, 2020, 11:35 AM

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Do you work with pboProject to pack your source file to a pbo file?

sterile kiln Nov 19, 2020, 11:36 AM

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Oh no

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I used addinbuilder/breaker

runic plover Nov 19, 2020, 11:36 AM

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You should use pboProject. Even unbinarized p3d model files do load much longer than binarized p3d model files.

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And pboProject will list any errors you did too to make your work more error less. Important to save some fps at least

polar fiber Nov 19, 2020, 11:39 AM

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Shadow LOD must be closed, you can't have any holes in a mesh or areas where faces are joined to backfaces

sterile kiln Nov 19, 2020, 11:41 AM

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This is so fucking frustrating

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I hate that there are no good guides on this

runic plover Nov 19, 2020, 11:43 AM

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There is a 1to1 guide for vests in the arma3 samples

And the arma3 wiki page does also tell most stuff about shadow lods, and other lods, properties, selections etc

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You got a screenshot of it ingame?

sterile kiln Nov 19, 2020, 11:50 AM

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https://imgur.com/a/Neb7pjb @runic plover

runic plover Nov 19, 2020, 11:54 AM

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I dont know if your pbo tool does implent your model.cfg file or not.

You should use pboProject of Mikero's tools. I see also your vest is grey (means unbinarized model) (binarized is white)(binarized will solve your loading problem)

If you got the Spine selections
The autocenter = 0 property

Then im sure your model.cfg is wrong or not loaded

With pboProject youll get more clearance about your vest.

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Also check the Arma 3 Samples ( Character_Test_01 its called, there is a vest example ) , you can find it in steam

sterile kiln Nov 19, 2020, 12:07 PM

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Rog thanks. Im kinda losing motivation but ill try

runic plover Nov 19, 2020, 12:10 PM

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At beginning its normal. When you got the knowhow it goes better. Just keep on it

sterile kiln Nov 19, 2020, 12:17 PM

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Will do thanks ❤️

limpid minnow Nov 20, 2020, 2:31 PM

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question about modding a helicopter so it can sling load cargo, do i have to unpack its pbo and tamper with the models and add reference points for the sling attached to the model?

stuck oyster Nov 20, 2020, 2:45 PM

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You can't tamper with models.

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So no can do

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@limpid minnow

rough idol Nov 20, 2020, 2:46 PM

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you can always try to reuse some existing memory point

limpid minnow Nov 20, 2020, 3:05 PM

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@stuck oyster so how do i say, make a tank a sling-able cargo

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for example make a tigris rope-able to a taru

polar fiber Nov 20, 2020, 3:17 PM

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Easiest way would be mission scripting to setMass the tigris to a lower weight that the taru can carry, then restore its usual mass when it's no longer sling-loaded

limpid minnow Nov 20, 2020, 3:23 PM

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ahh thanks

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so something like using setstate

stuck oyster Nov 20, 2020, 3:23 PM

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models that get into pbo are binarized and non editable after that

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setMass is the command

limpid minnow Nov 20, 2020, 3:23 PM

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i mean to let the game know its no longer being sling loaded and set its mass accordingly

stuck oyster Nov 20, 2020, 3:24 PM

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thats perhaps question for #arma3_scripting

limpid minnow Nov 20, 2020, 3:24 PM

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fair, thanks tho

granite mural Nov 20, 2020, 8:03 PM

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How would i replace the model of an existing gun with one i made as a sort of crude mod? For OFP that is.

burnt forum Nov 20, 2020, 8:25 PM

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So quick question, not sure if this applies to this channel but it'd be great if anyone could help. Does anyone know how to change a rifle you can use in game but also make it to be a placeable object in the editor? I know it's possible just not sure how.

stuck oyster Nov 20, 2020, 8:34 PM

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@granite mural Im afraid there might not be very many OFP modders around anymore.

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@burnt forum you need a groundholder defined that has the gun in it

burnt forum Nov 20, 2020, 8:35 PM

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I'm confused as to what that means, if you can explain a bit that'd be great

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If not thats cool too atleast it gives me somewhere to start

stuck oyster Nov 20, 2020, 8:36 PM

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ground holder is a object that you see when things are on ground

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and it show the items in it as proxies

orchid spruce Nov 20, 2020, 8:37 PM

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I have a barrel recoil set up on my static weapon, it works correctly, only it does not animate when I fire the last round, why would that happen?

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model.cfg sqf class gun_recoil { type="translation"; source="reload_source"; selection="bofors_barrel"; axis="recoil_axis"; animPeriod=1; minValue=0; maxValue=1; offset0=0; offset1=1; memory=1; };

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reload_source in the config just has source="reload"; and the used weapon specified

stuck oyster Nov 20, 2020, 8:39 PM

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there is nothing to reload after last shot

orchid spruce Nov 20, 2020, 8:39 PM

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so the reload animation doesn't run on last round?

stuck oyster Nov 20, 2020, 8:39 PM

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I would suspect so

orchid spruce Nov 20, 2020, 8:40 PM

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can I get around that then?

stuck oyster Nov 20, 2020, 8:40 PM

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they might use different source

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like revolving

orchid spruce Nov 20, 2020, 8:41 PM

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how would I set up a translation animation from revolving then?

stuck oyster Nov 20, 2020, 8:45 PM

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same way, just change source

orchid spruce Nov 20, 2020, 8:46 PM

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I mean, how do I convert revolving into a translation animation after every shot

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if revolving is returning the amount of shots

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do I make an extra recoil animation that animates the barrel as the revolving value goes last shot > empty?

orchid spruce Nov 20, 2020, 9:09 PM

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well I tried doing this but it didn't work sqf class gun_recoil_last { type="translation"; source="revolving_source"; selection="bofors_barrel"; axis="recoil_axis"; animPeriod=1; minValue=0; maxValue=0.24; offset0=0; offset1=1; memory=1; };

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it's a 4 round magazine so theoretically, when it fires the last round, it should then start going from 0.25 down to 0 and thus do the animation but it doesn't

stuck oyster Nov 20, 2020, 9:17 PM

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Hmm you might be able to do the last one with isEmpty source

orchid spruce Nov 20, 2020, 9:18 PM

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what does that return?

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I assumed it just jumps to 1 when the gun is empty

stuck oyster Nov 20, 2020, 9:24 PM

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dont remember but possibly. The wiki page for model.cfg has them listed

orchid spruce Nov 20, 2020, 9:25 PM

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it doesn't say how isEmpty actually animates

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The animation to hold the bolt open when the weapon is empty. that's all

polar fiber Nov 20, 2020, 10:24 PM

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IIRC it's just a state that goes from 0 to 1 instantly as soon as the mag is empty so not really useful for a recoil anim if the bone is to have visible travel

noble hatch Nov 21, 2020, 11:56 AM

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Hi all, hope this is the right place.
Looking for some advice on how to get the high poly model of a barrel surround with holes, as seen in pic 1 and the model in pic 2, baked into a low poly cylinder texture with transparency (3rd pic)
Pic 1: https://i.imgur.com/1lbPyZW.png
Pic 2: HP detailing to bake - https://i.imgur.com/ei2KlnW.png
Pic 3: low poly wanting transparency - https://i.imgur.com/S1CoQAA.png

Any help much appretiated! Only way I've managed it so far is manually painting transpaency onto the texture file. Thinking there must be a better solution.
Thanks, Jazza

polar fiber Nov 21, 2020, 12:02 PM

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Apply white colour to the shroud and put a cylinder with black colour applied inside the barrel shroud. Bake a colour map - would produce the same result as an alpha mask of the HP

noble hatch Nov 21, 2020, 12:05 PM

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oooo that sounds good, thanks for the rapid bit of advice.
If I can be a pain, baking in blender best for that right?

polar fiber Nov 21, 2020, 12:09 PM

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Probably. I don't use blender though so I don't know how well it bakes

noble hatch Nov 21, 2020, 12:17 PM

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Thanks again for your help!

balmy umbra Nov 22, 2020, 7:55 AM

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what is the minimum and maximum poly for arma?

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is model at hum3d any good?

white jay Nov 22, 2020, 8:29 AM

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humed is doing vehicles, right? I think the highest poly vanilla vehicle is a tank with 30k in highest resolution lod and you can probably go way higher in an empty scene, but you have to remember that your asset is going to be one of many things in your screen which all suck up computational power. You would need to seriously simplify a professionally made vehicle with easily 1 million tris to make it work properly, and to be honest, and let me tell you, modelling it by yourself with a reasonable polycount is the most fun part of getting your dream vehicle/asset into the game, much better than trying to modify someone elses work which is probably gonna clash with IP rights anyway. (Have a read in the ip_rights_violations channel, and bring popcorn)

stuck oyster Nov 22, 2020, 8:29 AM

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Tanks with interiors visible reach 80k or so.

white jay Nov 22, 2020, 8:30 AM

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That high? Whoa

stuck oyster Nov 22, 2020, 8:30 AM

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But bought models rarely are game ready

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And if one has to ask, then they definitely are not game ready.

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And thus no good

balmy umbra Nov 22, 2020, 8:31 AM

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oh

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hum3d have gameready option?

marsh canyon Nov 22, 2020, 8:33 AM

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Game ready =/= Arma ready

balmy umbra Nov 22, 2020, 8:33 AM

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ahhh okay

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btw, is there any step by step tutorial for model making? i mean if i have a 3d model then what should i do?

stuck oyster Nov 22, 2020, 8:35 AM

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There are some like the blender to Arma series

balmy umbra Nov 22, 2020, 8:35 AM

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i've tried exporting using armatoolbox. tried to load it in object builder. error

stuck oyster Nov 22, 2020, 8:35 AM

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Something went wrong then

balmy umbra Nov 22, 2020, 8:36 AM

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file 0kb

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lol

stuck oyster Nov 22, 2020, 8:36 AM

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But its same thing as with terrains. Its impossible to cover every single thing in a tutorial

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You did not have Arma properties set so it exports nothing

balmy umbra Nov 22, 2020, 8:36 AM

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i meant the basic of it, so i know what i need to learn next

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ohhh

white jay Nov 22, 2020, 8:42 AM

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pmc wiki is giving a good rundown for basic setup. Have a look at Arma 3 samples, I took the test car as a starting point and slowly replaced all the different LODs and configs with my own, taking hints from this lovely discord channel here, the BI wiki and pmc wiki

stuck oyster Nov 22, 2020, 8:43 AM

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BI forums have some inthe pinned threads too

balmy umbra Nov 22, 2020, 8:43 AM

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oh ya i forgot pmc cover model making too

white jay Nov 22, 2020, 8:44 AM

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I'm 8 months in, spent uncounted weekends and 130 bucks on substance painter, and I'm still not done 😄

balmy umbra Nov 22, 2020, 8:47 AM

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well actually im not going to model my self as a friend of mine will do it, but i need to know how the process will go as the part converting it to arma object is mine

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where is this arma properties? i couldnt find it in the properties tab

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nvm found it

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so small

balmy umbra Nov 22, 2020, 9:16 AM

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is el tyranos's tutorial good to follow? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03xvuAWFcvw

median bough Nov 22, 2020, 9:29 AM

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yes

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he as a series

stuck oyster Nov 22, 2020, 11:41 AM

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That's the blender to Arma series I mentioned earlier

jaunty apex Nov 22, 2020, 1:36 PM

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I'm curious, do people use CAD like Solidworks to make 3D models for games?

polar fiber Nov 22, 2020, 1:41 PM

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@jaunty apex CAD software like Solidworks isn't good for making game models

jaunty apex Nov 22, 2020, 1:43 PM

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I just like the workflow there. It's fairly simple to define basic shapes by constraints. So I thought maybe you could make, say, a table in it, then export it and further optimize the generated mesh?

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but I understand that you also need to make the UV map

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so perhaps the gain isn't worth the more complicated export process?

polar fiber Nov 22, 2020, 1:48 PM

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Depends how simple the object is. Generally anything curved, or with holes in it from a CAD program creates too many unnecessary polygons and automated optimisation is never as good as modelling it from polygons. CAD can be useful for generating high-poly meshes for baking normal maps and AO detail, but not the ingame mesh unless you approach it in the mindset of creating a suitable topology for games, which is much easier to do in polygon mesh modelling software than it is with Surface/NURBS modelling like you use in CAD software

jaunty apex Nov 22, 2020, 1:51 PM

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All right, I understand, so in the game the optimization part is so important that it's easier just to make the model in meshes

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Thanks 👍

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Would it be cool if you could make game models in CAD software, if the optimization problem was solved magically? Or would it be still more convenient just to use meshes?

polar fiber Nov 22, 2020, 1:56 PM

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Optimisation in terms of having the lowest number of edges and vertices that achieve the desired look, and generally clean topology where the model is transitioning between different adjoined shapes so that you don't get shading errors and degenerated polygons

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Automated holes, unions of objects etc. tend not to be very clean at all. Most modellers for visual media avoid such boolean operations unless completely necessary

woeful viper Nov 22, 2020, 2:44 PM

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jaunty apex All right, I understand, so in the game the optimization part is so important th...

Depends on the model. If you need nondestructive,parametric controls it can be beneficial to have CAD.
For example i made a parametric building concept in CAD, because its much easier to change specific dimensions with accuracy and efficiency.

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but only as first stage. Rectangular things are alright to do in CAD, but anything with roudness will lead to pain. However, you can use CAD based model as Highpoly to bake a low poly.

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for example barrel shroud with circular holes that have a chamfer... much easier in cad for HP than using subdivision workflows.

stuck oyster Nov 22, 2020, 4:27 PM

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If GPU technology was different mathematical models could be much nicer and basically need no lodding at all.

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I'm real-time that is

woeful viper Nov 22, 2020, 4:46 PM

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@stuck oyster lets make our own GPU technology... cant be that hard 😋

stuck oyster Nov 22, 2020, 4:47 PM

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XD sure!

balmy umbra Nov 23, 2020, 12:56 AM

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so i've trying following Gattington's tut on making a pie. Did everything he did but when i tried to export p3d it gives me an error.

`Traceback (most recent call last):
File "C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\Blender Foundation\Blender\2.90\scripts\addons\ArmaToolbox_init_.py", line 223, in execute
exportMDL(self, filePtr, self.selectionOnly);
File "C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\Blender Foundation\Blender\2.90\scripts\addons\ArmaToolbox..\ArmaToolbox\MDLexporter.py", line 511, in exportMDL
export_lod(filePtr, obj, wm, idx)
File "C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\Blender Foundation\Blender\2.90\scripts\addons\ArmaToolbox..\ArmaToolbox\MDLexporter.py", line 423, in export_lod
writeFaces(filePtr, obj, mesh)
File "C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\Blender Foundation\Blender\2.90\scripts\addons\ArmaToolbox..\ArmaToolbox\MDLexporter.py", line 111, in writeFaces
raise RuntimeError("Model " + obj.name + " contains n-gons and cannot be exported")
RuntimeError: Model Cylinder contains n-gons and cannot be exported

location: <unknown location>:-1

`

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i have applied location and rotation & scale before exporting

blissful spire Nov 23, 2020, 1:26 AM

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make all the faces triangles for the N-gons error @balmy umbra

balmy umbra Nov 23, 2020, 2:17 AM

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blissful spire make all the faces triangles for the N-gons error <@!166818176162725888>

How do i do that? Sorry, super super new to modelling.

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nvm, got it

blissful spire Nov 23, 2020, 2:23 AM

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👍

stuck oyster Nov 23, 2020, 4:42 AM

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best to practice just the modeling part before going into the Arma specifics

dusk trench Nov 23, 2020, 8:48 AM

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hello, can i use sketchUp 3D to model arma 3 vehicle?

median bough Nov 23, 2020, 8:52 AM

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you can but it will be faaaaaaar from optimal

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it will require too much post-work to get it in game with object builder or blender. best to start in blender directly

dusk trench Nov 23, 2020, 8:57 AM

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thanks

strong plaza Nov 23, 2020, 10:47 AM

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depends, I still sketch my models in sketchup and flesh them out in modo. thing about sketchup is it creates really bad topology on the export formats, if you're a beginner you should probably steer away

balmy umbra Nov 23, 2020, 11:03 AM

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@stuck oyster what if i have a friend who can do the model, i need learn the arma specifics part

white jay Nov 23, 2020, 11:05 AM

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Hope your friend's name is not hum3d ;)

strong plaza Nov 23, 2020, 11:06 AM

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lol

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there's always a "friend"

balmy umbra Nov 23, 2020, 11:09 AM

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no its not

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a 3d artist

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one of my community member

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but he asked me what he need to do to make it arma ready, im not sure what to answer

balmy umbra Nov 23, 2020, 11:33 AM

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as for me im doing pie

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😂

quick terrace Nov 23, 2020, 12:06 PM

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dusk trench hello, can i use sketchUp 3D to model arma 3 vehicle?

nope, Sketchup does not create game ready files

quick terrace Nov 23, 2020, 12:07 PM

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balmy umbra but he asked me what he need to do to make it arma ready, im not sure what to an...

there are very few things that are arma specific, in theory and game ready mesh can be used in A3. if the friendhe is a 3d artist, he should be able to produce game ready models

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once that is done, he can obviously create the needed lods that are A3 specific (geo/SVlod etc)

balmy umbra Nov 23, 2020, 2:05 PM

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alright i ask him if he knows about it

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basically all of this right? https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/LOD#What.27s_a_LOD.3F

idle umbra Nov 23, 2020, 4:28 PM

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balmy umbra basically all of this right? https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/LOD#What.27s_a_...

for LOD, you can refer to arma 3 sample

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or youtube tutorial

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or arma 2 model

woeful viper Nov 23, 2020, 5:20 PM

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Why does everybody coming in here have a friend who makes 3d models for them... and more importantly, why do i not have a modeller lackey friend myself?

strong plaza Nov 23, 2020, 5:23 PM

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man the time I could save with such a friend 😄

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and everyone seems to have one except me 😦

woeful viper Nov 23, 2020, 5:25 PM

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we could be each others friend... but i think this would lead to a singularity in space time...

strong plaza Nov 23, 2020, 5:25 PM

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lol

balmy umbra Nov 23, 2020, 8:47 PM

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well got my hands tied on terrain making, thats why. my other community member can contribute too

balmy umbra Nov 24, 2020, 1:38 PM

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is the blender's scaling the same in OB?

stuck oyster Nov 24, 2020, 1:50 PM

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What do you mean?

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The units?

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Then yes, 1 OB unit is 1 meter that equals to 1 blender unit that is also a meter

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But If you don't apply scale and rotation on your blender object it will export wrong

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Blender can also be set to show metric units

balmy umbra Nov 24, 2020, 1:59 PM

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yes the units. okay. i'll look more into how to draw accurately in blender then

stuck oyster Nov 24, 2020, 2:02 PM

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You can use the snapping tool

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It has different modes. Increment snaps to grid

balmy umbra Nov 24, 2020, 2:06 PM

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oh, okay thanks HG!

shrewd jay Nov 25, 2020, 12:56 PM

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@balmy umbra

RuntimeError: Model Cylinder contains n-gons and cannot be exported
one of the objects you are exporting contains n-gons, as the error message says. In Blender 2.79, an export plugin like Arma Toolbox could automatically triangulate that, but that functionality was removed in Blender 2.80.

If you are adventurous, you can download the master branch from github, it contains functionality to apply modifiers to models on export so you can simply add a Triangulate modifier to your objects. Otherwise you need to go in, select all ngons and triangulate them by hand.

balmy umbra Nov 25, 2020, 1:01 PM

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i barely know how blender works so i just went manually triangulate them all

shrewd jay Nov 25, 2020, 1:02 PM

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That's the easiest solution to the problem, yeah 🙂

balmy umbra Nov 25, 2020, 1:03 PM

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anyway thanks for the toolbox, its awesome

shrewd jay Nov 25, 2020, 1:05 PM

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Thanks ^^

runic plover Nov 25, 2020, 5:17 PM

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@white jay most 3d pages like turbosquid do have 3d models to use. Some are free, some cost something. But take care, some 3d models arent gameready and do have to many polycounts.

stuck oyster Nov 25, 2020, 5:28 PM

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and more often than not a "free" model is free because it has been stolen from somewhere else

woeful viper Nov 25, 2020, 8:17 PM

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most free models you will find that are not ripped from somewhere are god awefull...

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even many models that you can "buy" on various sites are just ripped game models, because the site admin just keeps uploading them under alias while posing as "good guy" and removing them at request.

balmy umbra Nov 26, 2020, 12:09 AM

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the material i set in blender won't get exported into p3d right? texture is set in OB. am i right?

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and why does only some part of my model is being exported? i didn't hide any layer

stuck oyster Nov 26, 2020, 1:00 AM

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only 1 object per lod is exported

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so all parts of 1 lod must be joined together

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and yes you can set the Arma material too in Blender

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its in the material tab at the bottom

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since it has to point to files Blender cant otherwise use, it is separate from the Blenders own material setup

balmy umbra Nov 26, 2020, 1:20 AM

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i see okay thanks

balmy umbra Nov 26, 2020, 8:17 AM

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so how does i export the 2nd lod if i have 2 lod made in 1 blender file?

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disable the first lod first?

idle umbra Nov 26, 2020, 11:47 AM

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Set at arma object properties. In blender press N, it will show the tools. If it is resolution lod, choose custom and reso is 1 for first, 2 for 2nd.

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The blender will export all object to p3d if it set to arma object properties. And depend what lod u set on each object

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U can try import p3d from arma sample and check how

balmy umbra Nov 26, 2020, 12:02 PM

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okay thanks lapuk @idle umbra

shrewd jay Nov 26, 2020, 12:46 PM

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I really need to make a new release of the toolbox, the current work-in-progress version can merge all LOD's of the same type into one single LOD on export.

frosty rain Nov 26, 2020, 7:44 PM

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Why does my building have this blue tint when in the shadow? https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1666858074796794656/36BEE3F4E3D9011CBBCA5729C78089443001E006/

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I removed my rvmat and it was gone so I suppose it's that

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https://pastebin.com/m6HaDtuL this is my rvmat

stuck oyster Nov 26, 2020, 7:50 PM

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something off with your textures probably

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if its a building you should be using multimaterial though

frosty rain Nov 26, 2020, 7:51 PM

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on the texture it looks fine

stuck oyster Nov 26, 2020, 7:51 PM

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multimaterial a special type of rvmat that uses tiling textures

frosty rain Nov 26, 2020, 7:51 PM

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like the proper texture

old citrus Nov 26, 2020, 10:12 PM

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frosty rain like the proper texture

if you are interested in learning Multi mats https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Mondkalb's_MultiMaterial_Tutorial

frosty rain Nov 26, 2020, 10:51 PM

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Can i use substance painter and multi mats? @old citrus

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I texture with substance painter

frosty rain Nov 26, 2020, 10:51 PM

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frosty rain https://pastebin.com/m6HaDtuL this is my rvmat

The issue was the spec and spec power lol

warm berry Nov 26, 2020, 10:53 PM

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Oh, that might be causing part of your problem. You need to make sure you match your specular color in your shader settings in SP to your RVMAT specular colors.

frosty rain Nov 26, 2020, 10:55 PM

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I put it to 0.01, 0.01, 0.01, 1. and 32 on the other one and it got fixed

old citrus Nov 27, 2020, 12:54 AM

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frosty rain Can i use substance painter and multi mats? <@314010046058987520>

yes you can paint the mask using substance and you can also bake it since you can put a as map in the Rvmat thats what I do but sadly well you wont have anything special when using substance since you will need to export the Textures Seperatly.

stuck oyster Nov 27, 2020, 6:31 AM

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@frosty rain samples are not binsrized

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Unpacked A3 and mod data is, but the samples from "Arma 3 samples" are not

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Unless you've binarized them yourself

frosty rain Nov 27, 2020, 6:32 AM

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Oh i always thought they were lol

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Nvm me then @balmy umbra

stuck oyster Nov 27, 2020, 6:32 AM

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🙈

steel vector Nov 27, 2020, 9:53 AM

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I'm sure the pro's will answer this better, but afaik it's not an issue with the configs but with the model itself

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something from the forums:

Please make sure you have the autocenter property in the Geometry LOD set to 0. That might do the trick.

steel vector Nov 27, 2020, 10:16 AM

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that could help as well 🤣

polar fiber Nov 27, 2020, 11:37 AM

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Question is, why are you trying to get what appears to be a ripped model of the Kipchak vest from Contact DLC into the game?

bold flare Nov 27, 2020, 11:41 AM

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@balmy umbra care to explain?

turbid cove Nov 27, 2020, 12:08 PM

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@balmy umbra 👀❔

fallen quiver Nov 27, 2020, 2:54 PM

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Question, any idea why this is happening?

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https://gyazo.com/a259324e190b899ffc02cc3bf4d44e2f

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it's the exact same texture, same rvmat, for some reason the lighting is having this impact on it

stuck oyster Nov 27, 2020, 3:00 PM

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the lines?

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is a bug with shadow casting from the resolution mesh

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its going to be get a engine side fix at some point

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yes but that object can not be extacted in legal ways

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you are already breaking quite a bit of rules with that @balmy umbra

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very naughty boy

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yes

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nope

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theres no gain in that either

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there are example models in the Arma 3 samples for self experimenting

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well I want you to give me 90% of your monthly income

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doesnt work that way

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

bold flare Nov 27, 2020, 3:37 PM

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!purgeban 166818176162725888 60d ripping, modifying contact model. This ban is only temporary

high scarabBOT Nov 27, 2020, 3:37 PM

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*PewPewPew!!*
RIP @balmy umbra

bold flare Nov 27, 2020, 3:37 PM

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being nice
You don't just rip and modify content that is both encrypted and that you also don't even own because you didn't buy the DLC..

desert notch Nov 28, 2020, 1:06 PM

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Hey guys.
Is it possible to create a box that is fully opaque from the inside but fully transparent from the outside?!

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i.e invisible when you're standing outside of it

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but you'd see the sides when you're inside of it

bold flare Nov 28, 2020, 1:08 PM

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yes

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A face is only visible in one direction

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usually you make modesl who's polygons face outside, you can turn them around

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Like how you can bug your head into a building, and from the inside the walls are seethrough. Because the polygons face outside, not inside

polar fiber Nov 28, 2020, 1:10 PM

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Likely would will still see half the polygons though from the outside though

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Since the back inside walls would have normals facing the direction of the backface of the front wall

desert notch Nov 28, 2020, 1:11 PM

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what if I just made a surface?

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then put 6 of them together (in the game) to form a box?

rough idol Nov 28, 2020, 2:23 PM

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you could always use basicFade shader

desert notch Nov 28, 2020, 3:35 PM

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rough idol you could always use basicFade shader

that's only the vertex shader right? what should I use for the fragment shader?

rough idol Nov 28, 2020, 3:42 PM

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I've tried normal & super - I don't think there is any limitation there

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of course some more exotic ones like cloud might not work

desert notch Nov 28, 2020, 4:10 PM

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I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, but the surface is not invisible. It's white when I look at the surface normally (the default texture)
It transitions to black when I look at it at an angle

rough idol Nov 28, 2020, 4:17 PM

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ahh, I read it again

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basicFade is not going to work in such situation

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another idea that I have is using alpha sorting

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_Weapon_Collimator_Sights

Arma 3 Weapon Collimator Sights

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/File:screen_2.jpg

File:screen 2.jpg

desert notch Nov 28, 2020, 6:11 PM

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so anyway I created this box (made up of various number of surfaces based on required size):
#screenshots_arma message
but the problem is in daylight the shader is very weird and the texture color varies
I have placed a light source in the middle that lights up the entire box and the box looks good at night.
but it doesn't look right in the day (light is also being shown in daylight)

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which shader should I use to give it a uniform color?

stuck oyster Nov 28, 2020, 6:11 PM

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what is its purpose?

desert notch Nov 28, 2020, 6:12 PM

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or maybe should I use different light paramters?

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It's a box I place around objects
for object viewer

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using render to texture

stuck oyster Nov 28, 2020, 6:12 PM

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yes but for what purpose?

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what are you trying to do with it?

desert notch Nov 28, 2020, 6:13 PM

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so that the world around the object is not visible

stuck oyster Nov 28, 2020, 6:14 PM

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the box is a custom object?

desert notch Nov 28, 2020, 6:14 PM

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it's not really a box

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I made a surface (thin box) in object builder

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then I put them together to make a box

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It only has a res lod

stuck oyster Nov 28, 2020, 6:15 PM

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are the mesh edges sharp shaded?

desert notch Nov 28, 2020, 6:16 PM

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dunno what that is!

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I don't use any shaders right now

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just using a procedural texture for the sides

stuck oyster Nov 28, 2020, 6:16 PM

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its not rexture related

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its how the mesh itself shades

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📎 unknown.png

runic plover Nov 28, 2020, 6:17 PM

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sharp & smooth edges

desert notch Nov 28, 2020, 6:18 PM

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the thing is, what you see are several surfaces.

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Not just one object

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I can send the object if you want

stuck oyster Nov 28, 2020, 6:19 PM

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nah I dont have time to do other peoples work atm. 😛
Also Im still not quite sure what the purpose of the box is and what it should look like

desert notch Nov 28, 2020, 6:20 PM

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I just want the "border" between the surfaces to disappear (using a shader or something)

fluid copper Nov 28, 2020, 6:21 PM

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Try making it just a single object with the normals facing inwards

desert notch Nov 28, 2020, 6:21 PM

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I want the size to be variable

fluid copper Nov 28, 2020, 6:22 PM

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Do you want it to be able to be changed in game?

desert notch Nov 28, 2020, 6:23 PM

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Yeah, I create it dynamically by placing the surfaces together.
this is how it looks at night
#screenshots_arma message

stuck oyster Nov 28, 2020, 6:24 PM

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isnt there some sort of greenscreen object in Arma for that already?

desert notch Nov 28, 2020, 6:24 PM

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dunno!

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so anyway, is there any shader that would make it look the same regardless of light source direction?

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or maybe some RVMAT settings for light diffusion and stuff?

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I think these three would help right?

Ambient[]={1,1,1,1}; 

Diffuse[]={1,1,1,1}; 

ForcedDiffuse[]={0,0,0,0};

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I don't have much experience with RVMATs so I'm not sure

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or maybe:

Ambient[]={1,1,1,1};
Diffuse[]={0.5,0.5,0.5,1};  
ForcedDiffuse {0.5,0.5,0.5,0}

This combination makes same result as old vertex property Half Lighted (surface is lit the same from all sides, it appears flat)

desert notch Nov 28, 2020, 6:53 PM

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Okay, I figured it out:

Ambient[]={0,0,0,0};
Diffuse[]={1,1,1,1};  
ForcedDiffuse {0,0,0,0};

I just had to disable the reflection of ambient light.

stuck oyster Nov 28, 2020, 6:56 PM

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👍

polar fiber Nov 28, 2020, 8:14 PM

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There's already some kind of dome object used in BIS_fnc_exportEditorPreviews that achieves similar, no?

maiden heron Nov 29, 2020, 12:20 AM

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hello. i've noticed that in the samples, tank's wheel is diamond shaped square plane. not even a circle or a cylinder. does this means arma will make it looks like a cylinder with config?

stuck oyster Nov 29, 2020, 12:39 AM

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no

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it possibly is a plane with transparent texture

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that then looks like the wheel

maiden heron Nov 29, 2020, 12:44 AM

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what is armaproxy?

median bough Nov 29, 2020, 12:45 AM

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can be seen as a placeholder that links to another model

maiden heron Nov 29, 2020, 12:51 AM

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i see

stuck oyster Nov 29, 2020, 12:53 AM

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proxies in p3d link to various engine functionalities too

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like driver / gunner / passenger positions

maiden heron Nov 29, 2020, 12:59 AM

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so say if i put a proxy for a driver position, the drive would be positioned at the bottom of the triangle?

median bough Nov 29, 2020, 1:02 AM

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pretty much, yes

maiden heron Nov 29, 2020, 1:07 AM

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so its needed across different lods? only 1 in reso is not okay?

median bough Nov 29, 2020, 1:10 AM

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it depends on the proxy, but basically yes

maiden heron Nov 29, 2020, 1:14 AM

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okay

runic plover Nov 29, 2020, 4:10 AM

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maiden heron hello. i've noticed that in the samples, tank's wheel is diamond shaped square p...

Arma sample models are anyway reduced a lot in detail, sure thats why the wheels look like that

maiden heron Nov 29, 2020, 8:57 AM

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if i try to pack it into a working mod i would get a square wheel? thats fun!

quick terrace Nov 29, 2020, 12:16 PM

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why would you pack anything from samples res lods?

maiden heron Nov 29, 2020, 1:51 PM

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i dont know, wanted to see what it looks like in game

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blobcloseenjoy

orchid spruce Nov 29, 2020, 2:24 PM

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when you put the model in the game it's going to look as the model is, arma isn't magically going to make the model higher polygon

woeful viper Nov 29, 2020, 2:25 PM

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it doesnt? <pikatchu face>

stuck oyster Nov 29, 2020, 2:34 PM

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Actually if you put the makeMeBeautiful = 1; config parameter into your vehicles class it will transform it. Its almost christmas so I thought Id share this hidden feature as an advance gift.

maiden heron Nov 29, 2020, 3:54 PM

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orchid spruce when you put the model in the game it's going to look as the model is, arma isn'...

i know as i figured and as HorribleGoat comfirms it. im saying its fun to see a squared wheel tank in the game. not saying its going to be a good model tank

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the sample was making me curious why is it like that and not make a proper sample, thats why i ask. because i looked at other sample, they were pretty much have a complete look

stuck oyster Nov 29, 2020, 4:09 PM

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it is a proper sample for all the functionality

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it might not represent the full detail modeling level of a first lod

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but that is meaningless to put in a sample

maiden heron Nov 29, 2020, 4:18 PM

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yeah i get it now

shut lichen Nov 30, 2020, 5:52 AM

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Anyone know why the p3d object isnt including the mirror sections of the object? Trying to make a simple object but 3 sides don't appear. These sides are mirrored, unsure what to do apart from remake the sides to be 1 object

stuck oyster Nov 30, 2020, 6:44 AM

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mirrored how?

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mirrorin usually also flips the mesh so it can "turn invisible" when Arma does not render the backside of the faces

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you need to turn on bacface culling in you 3D program to see which faces point forward and which to wrong direction

shut lichen Nov 30, 2020, 7:04 AM

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Turns out it wasn't applied correctly and the person I managed to get some help from ended up going "that model sucks, I'm making you a better one" lmao

stuck oyster Nov 30, 2020, 7:08 AM

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alrighto

radiant dirge Nov 30, 2020, 9:34 AM

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Hi 👋 Someone know how to play a sound with a trigger place in object builder ? (When it is activated by a player)

runic plover Nov 30, 2020, 1:34 PM

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@radiant dirge you mean like as example opening a door, opendoor sound gets played?

And "trigger" like User Action?

vital geyser Nov 30, 2020, 3:19 PM

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sound position in animation source maybe?

radiant dirge Nov 30, 2020, 4:07 PM

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@runic plover not exactly

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I mean like a button in a room and the user press the button and the sound get played

radiant dirge Nov 30, 2020, 4:08 PM

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vital geyser sound position in animation source maybe?

?

orchid spruce Nov 30, 2020, 4:26 PM

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how do I properly export a FBX of a character with animation from object builder? when I import the FBX into 3ds max now, all the bones are at weird positions and the model looks all deformed

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and also really tiny

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this is the animation in object builder https://prnt.sc/vszm8s

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this is imported into 3ds max https://prnt.sc/vszmck

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the small dots are the bones

stuck oyster Nov 30, 2020, 4:28 PM

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I dont think object builder exports animations to fbx

orchid spruce Nov 30, 2020, 4:28 PM

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well it sort of exports the current pose, but all messed up

stuck oyster Nov 30, 2020, 4:28 PM

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or if it does then your import or export scale or workspace measurement settings are wrong

orchid spruce Nov 30, 2020, 4:29 PM

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what units is object builder in?

stuck oyster Nov 30, 2020, 4:29 PM

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1 unit 1 meter

orchid spruce Nov 30, 2020, 4:29 PM

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yeah I have 3ds max set to meters

stuck oyster Nov 30, 2020, 4:29 PM

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thats all I can think of as non max user

runic plover Nov 30, 2020, 4:32 PM

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@radiant dirge but thats what it sounds like

A User Action defined sound source 🤷‍♂️

warm leaf Nov 30, 2020, 4:47 PM

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I've got some odd stretch lines occuring on my models - textures and UV looks fine in blender and object builder and substance painter, but then in game its covered in these odd stretch marks. Haven't had the same problems with other models I've made, any ideas welcome at this point: https://i.imgur.com/M5MbCbz.png Left is ingame, right is blender. I've tried adding extra edge loops, triangulating geometry to no avail

icy condor Nov 30, 2020, 5:43 PM

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I make a building, made 0 lod and made a lod roadway, but in one place I fall through the floor, although there is a lod there and there

main jasper Nov 30, 2020, 6:18 PM

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Anyone got any idea why my objects textures are appearing black even though they have the same texture as the walls next to it
See image for reference
https://i.imgur.com/NISXYp1.png

idle umbra Nov 30, 2020, 7:00 PM

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Anyone got any idea why my objects textures are appearing black even though they have the same texture as the walls next to it
See image for reference
https://i.imgur.com/NISXYp1.png
@main jasper AS texture, maybe..

main jasper Nov 30, 2020, 7:11 PM

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Don't know about that. The texture works on the walls next to it

hasty path Nov 30, 2020, 7:26 PM

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So I'm having issues exporting to a P3D from blender. I have everything modeled with different vertex groups and geometry LODs.

This is the error message

Ill Traceback (most recent call last):
File "C:\Users\mail4\AppData\Roaming\Blender Foundation\Blender\2.83\scripts\addons\ArmaToolbox_init_.py", line 223, in execute
exportMDL(self, filePtr, self.selectionOnly);
File "C:\Users\mail4\AppData\Roaming\Blender Foundation\Blender\2.83\scripts\addons\ArmaToolbox..\ArmaToolbox\MDLexporter.py", line 511, in exportMDL
export_lod(filePtr, obj, wm, idx)
File "C:\Users\mail4\AppData\Roaming\Blender Foundation\Blender\2.83\scripts\addons\ArmaToolbox..\ArmaToolbox\MDLexporter.py", line 423, in export_lod
writeFaces(filePtr, obj, mesh)
File "C:\Users\mail4\AppData\Roaming\Blender Foundation\Blender\2.83\scripts\addons\ArmaToolbox..\ArmaToolbox\MDLexporter.py", line 112, in writeFaces
materialName, textureName = getMaterialInfo(face, obj)
File "C:\Users\mail4\AppData\Roaming\Blender Foundation\Blender\2.83\scripts\addons\ArmaToolbox..\ArmaToolbox\MDLexporter.py", line 31, in getMaterialInfo
texType = material.armaMatProps.texType;
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'armaMatProps'

location: <unknown location>:-1

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This is my second stab at modding after successfully doing some retextures and my god. It feels like I'm going nowhere and theres so much conflicting information out there. If anyone has a comprehensive tutorial on how to go from having a textured 3D model to a functioning in game gun I would be extremely grateful

stuck oyster Nov 30, 2020, 8:01 PM

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there are no comprehensive tutorials that cover all bases and errors you may encounter

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your issue is that you have no material assigned to your model

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so the exporter cannot read the arma material properties of it

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or you have empty material in it

hasty path Nov 30, 2020, 8:04 PM

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I found the culprit, for some reason there where 2 versions of the trigger one of which untextured

raw beacon Nov 30, 2020, 8:15 PM

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Having an issue with my destructible building. However, when i reach the damage threshold to replace with the ruin token, the undamaged model dissapears and does not replace with the ruined version

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Here is config

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https://pastebin.com/eq0jm2Cr

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Also having similar issue with some exploding barrels. When the damage threshold is reached the initial model is not replaced/ disappears

white jay Nov 30, 2020, 8:26 PM

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thonk didnt say to ping the mods though, thats all you

hasty path Nov 30, 2020, 8:34 PM

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mounting my p drive is what fixed that for me

white jay Nov 30, 2020, 8:54 PM

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@white jay use this guide https://pmc.editing.wiki/doku.php?id=arma3:tools:setup-p-drive

idle umbra Nov 30, 2020, 8:55 PM

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Don't know about that. The texture works on the walls next to it
@main jasper . Check ur path in rvmat for AS texture. I having this issue before with my vehicle.

white jay Nov 30, 2020, 9:19 PM

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how whas that all cap

bold flare Nov 30, 2020, 9:20 PM

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You are trying to tell me that BUT WHAT ABOUT MY PP is neither allcaps, nor spam?

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!mute 282145634385920001 7d Some time to study the definitions of allcaps and spam

high scarabBOT Nov 30, 2020, 9:22 PM

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Silence!! ò_ó
...
I keel u, @white jay!! Ò_Ó
Llama#5353 now has 3 infractions.

hasty path Nov 30, 2020, 9:25 PM

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Anyone have any good resources on how to write a model.cfg? im guessing it has to be done using the tool in OB but none of the tutorials so far have covered it

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I'm just very confused by the standard BI Wiki one

polar fiber Nov 30, 2020, 9:45 PM

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Nope, you can write it in any text editing software like notepad

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/ArmA:_How_to_animate_a_model https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Model_Config pretty much explain the bulk of it

ArmA: How to animate a model

Model Config

stuck oyster Nov 30, 2020, 9:49 PM

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@hasty path you can just write it in any text editor. I recommend notepad++

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oh it was already answered

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🧓

hasty path Nov 30, 2020, 9:50 PM

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okay thanks! Ill take another stab at that page... idk y but its rly confusing for me

raw beacon Nov 30, 2020, 9:57 PM

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Having an issue with my destructible building. When i reach the damage threshold to replace with the ruin token, the undamaged model dissapears and does not replace with the ruined version
Here is config
https://pastebin.com/eq0jm2Cr
Also having similar issue with some exploding barrels. When the damage threshold is reached the initial model is not replaced/ disappears

(second time asking)

hasty path Nov 30, 2020, 10:03 PM

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So, this may sound wierd but when i pick the new weapon in game its animated properly, but the model doesnt show. Also, rounds land at my feet.

stuck oyster Nov 30, 2020, 10:12 PM

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viewpilot lod might be missing

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and memorypoints too

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compare your gun to the one in the Arma 3 Samples on steam

hasty path Nov 30, 2020, 10:14 PM

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yeah i loaded it into my blender project to verify eferything was good as well as scale

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i feel like i want to harm somebody im so frustrated at this point so im gonna take a break. if theres ever any time someone would be free to talk, I would be very appreciative. I'm not very good with most coding languages and this whole project has been ridiculously hard for me.

stuck oyster Nov 30, 2020, 10:17 PM

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new things always take time to get familiar with. there are many parts that need to be made to fit together

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you have not started with anything easy

hasty path Nov 30, 2020, 10:18 PM

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i started by doing some uniforms and such

stuck oyster Nov 30, 2020, 10:18 PM

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getting something simpler like just a model of a box would be easier to begin with

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retextures are nothing in comparison

hasty path Nov 30, 2020, 10:18 PM

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i may try that tomorrrow, if for no other reason other than feeling some accomplishment

stuck oyster Nov 30, 2020, 10:19 PM

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there is a "blender to arma" tutorial series that might be helpflul

hasty path Nov 30, 2020, 10:20 PM

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there are a few different ones ive watched, which one are uy referencing

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you*

stuck oyster Nov 30, 2020, 10:22 PM

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one on BI forums editing sections pinned messages

hasty path Nov 30, 2020, 10:26 PM

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Not seeing it in the channels pins...

stuck oyster Nov 30, 2020, 10:44 PM

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not discord

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the Bohemia Interactive Forums

hasty path Nov 30, 2020, 10:44 PM

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ooooh gotcha

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thanks

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honestly think ima just call it a day

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noted for tomorrow tho

stuck oyster Nov 30, 2020, 10:48 PM

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since you are in the very beginning of the whole learning process it can feel very daunting and failure will be a constant visitor. There is no shame in that and there just is a lot to learn to figure everything out

maiden heron Dec 1, 2020, 1:44 AM

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do i need to put every of my tank's track into a vertex group or just the one with contact with land like in the sample?

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or i can just pool all of them together in 1 group?

true river Dec 1, 2020, 2:21 AM

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hi.. im korean modder..
I'm so tired. Can I ask you a question?

Why am I not normal!
It doesn't recognize textures normally!

Does anyone know why?

Apply multiple textures by pressing "E",
Only one thing applies.
in Object Builder.

When there are so many compartments, only images applied to one compartment are imported.

How can I put an image in another compartment?
Translate sry 😦
modeler said there was nothing wrong with the UV.

silver zenith Dec 1, 2020, 4:02 AM

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could the filepaths be wrong?
usually when you select a texture from ob the filepath automates to P:\Modfolder\etc....
while they should just be Modfolder\etc...

woeful viper Dec 1, 2020, 7:26 AM

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if modeler said something is wrong with UV, UV needs to be fixed... simple as that

idle umbra Dec 1, 2020, 9:11 AM

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hi.. im korean modder..
I'm so tired. Can I ask you a question?

Why am I not normal!
It doesn't recognize textures normally!

Does anyone know why?

Apply multiple textures by pressing "E",
Only one thing applies.
in Object Builder.

When there are so many compartments, only images applied to one compartment are imported.

How can I put an image in another compartment?
Translate sry 😦
modeler said there was nothing wrong with the UV.
@true river just assigning material using blender. U can click path for texture and rvmat in material panel when u set it as arma object

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Hard to assigning rvmat and texture in OB. Better do it in blender

night summit Dec 1, 2020, 3:23 PM

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Hi, if anyone is able to help me I would really appreciate it. Im having trouble getting my ShadowVolume to work.
I have made sure that the model is fully closed, sharp and triangulated.
I have put a LodNoShadow property in all my resolution LODs, geometry, geometry Phys, geometry Buoyancy, land contacts and fire geometry.
Any help is appreciated

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https://imgur.com/a/fZj2zUo

stuck oyster Dec 1, 2020, 4:36 PM

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what are your geomery lod named parameters?

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also lodNoShadow is only for resolution lods

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and make sure you have shadows enabled in the video settings

night summit Dec 1, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Okay, ill remove the lodnoshadow from the others then try it again. My shadows are on. I can see the shadows of other objects. Im not sure what you mean by lod named parameters

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Component01 is the name of the vertex group on the geometry LOD, im not sure if that is the named parameters that you are asking for though

reef granite Dec 1, 2020, 4:47 PM

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Hello every body :)
I'm pretty new and I try my first APC like vehicle.
My issue :
Inside the turret, the reticule does not rotate with my vehicle's turret rotation.
Any idea ?

night summit Dec 1, 2020, 4:52 PM

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https://imgur.com/0qHZ6zg I removed the unneeded lodnoshadows. there are no visible changes. still no luck with the shadows though

stuck oyster Dec 1, 2020, 5:04 PM

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sorry meant named properties

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as in same as the lodnoshadow

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what else do you have in the geometry lod

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@reef granite quite likely your memorypoints are not part of the animated selections

night summit Dec 1, 2020, 5:06 PM

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https://imgur.com/a/7V4hPTy

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autocenter and buoyancy

stuck oyster Dec 1, 2020, 5:08 PM

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nothing there to prevent shadows as far as I can tell

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are you packing your addon with pboProject?

night summit Dec 1, 2020, 5:08 PM

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yes

stuck oyster Dec 1, 2020, 5:09 PM

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does your shadowlod have texture applied?

night summit Dec 1, 2020, 5:11 PM

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I dont believe so. There is no texture or material linked in face properties

stuck oyster Dec 1, 2020, 5:12 PM

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try adding sbSource = visualEx to your geometry lod

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that way it should cast soft shawos from resolution lods

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just to debug it

night summit Dec 1, 2020, 5:13 PM

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packing now

raw beacon Dec 1, 2020, 5:13 PM

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Having an issue with my destructible building. When i reach the damage threshold to replace with the ruin token, the undamaged model dissapears and does not replace with the ruined version
Here is config
https://pastebin.com/eq0jm2Cr
Also having similar issue with some exploding barrels. When the damage threshold is reached the initial model is not replaced/ disappears

stuck oyster Dec 1, 2020, 5:13 PM

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are you packing with pboProject?

raw beacon Dec 1, 2020, 5:14 PM

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yes

stuck oyster Dec 1, 2020, 5:15 PM

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probalby issue with your destrType

raw beacon Dec 1, 2020, 5:15 PM

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destrType="DestructDefault";

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i pretty much copied everything over from the sample house

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and changed the various model paths and such

stuck oyster Dec 1, 2020, 5:17 PM

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hmm I likely remembered wrong. that looks to be right type for it

raw beacon Dec 1, 2020, 5:19 PM

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Ive done a lot of troubleshooting on my own. So far no luck so im hoping someone here might have an idea of what is going on here

night summit Dec 1, 2020, 5:20 PM

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https://imgur.com/gtgZlPr there is a faint black area around the box. not sure if that is the sbSource thing doing it or not

stuck oyster Dec 1, 2020, 5:20 PM

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no

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can you place some other object next to it?

night summit Dec 1, 2020, 5:24 PM

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https://imgur.com/6Nf1Kae

stuck oyster Dec 1, 2020, 5:25 PM

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ye you should be getting that same kind of shadow

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can you add some like cube in OB to the first lod to make sure the model is actually updating

reef granite Dec 1, 2020, 5:26 PM

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@stuck oyster thank you very much for your answer. My "memoryPointGunnerOptics" is turning ok but the final/real reticle is not rotating with the turret. I mean this one :
https://i.postimg.cc/vZ4G7n05/tmp.jpg

stuck oyster Dec 1, 2020, 5:26 PM

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gunbeg, gunEnd points are likely then not moving

reef granite Dec 1, 2020, 5:28 PM

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Mmh normally they are moving because "konec hlavne" and "konec hlavne" are also in vtx grp "OtocHlaven"

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*and usti hlavne

stuck oyster Dec 1, 2020, 5:29 PM

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if you shoot where does the shot go?

reef granite Dec 1, 2020, 5:30 PM

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The shoot go just in front of the vehicle. But the smoke is following the cannon

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I mean if I rotate the cannon : it shoot in front of instead

stuck oyster Dec 1, 2020, 5:31 PM

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then perhaps you have a typo somewhere

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in config or in the memorypoint selection

night summit Dec 1, 2020, 5:32 PM

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I added a cube to the res LOD and it has shown up

reef granite Dec 1, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Thank you HG, I will search then.
Just a question, in the tank sample why are there 2 vertex groups :

OtocHlaven
otocHlaven
i don't get the difference. Is it important to repect UpperCase ?

raw beacon Dec 1, 2020, 5:40 PM

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@reef granite capitalization dosnt usually matter. However is recommend you stick with the form of abcXyz (or camelcase as its called)

idle umbra Dec 1, 2020, 5:42 PM

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reef granite Thank you HG, I will search then. Just a question, in the tank sample why are th...

Capitalization doesnt matter, but u should only have one either OtocHlaven or otocHlaven

reef granite Dec 1, 2020, 5:42 PM

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I understand 🙂

idle umbra Dec 1, 2020, 5:43 PM

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if u have both, animation would not work properly

reef granite Dec 1, 2020, 5:44 PM

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I saw this inside the Test_Tank_01 but in my scene I only have OtocHlaven so I'm good to go then

stuck oyster Dec 1, 2020, 5:46 PM

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it matters

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at least in most places

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so best practice is to keep everything always same in configs and models

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and if you want to be on the safe side always use small letters

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@reef granite it depends what you have in your configs as gunbed and gunend

reef granite Dec 1, 2020, 5:53 PM

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stuck oyster <@!410416731010498560> it depends what you have in your configs as gunbed and ...

My gunBeg and gunEnd vertex groups are written in lowercase as in my Object Builder scene.

Concerning my issue about the cannon shooting only in front of
I double checked : "konec hlavne" + "usti hlavne" + "gunnerview" are in my "OtocHlaven" animated part.
Maybe there is another vertex to parent in order for the reticle to follow the turret rotation.
Also I have an error but I thought it was not important :
"No entry "bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/MyVehicle/Turrets/MainTurret/Turrets/CommanderOptics.soundElevation"

stuck oyster Dec 1, 2020, 5:54 PM

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that turrets mainturret turrets class tree does not look good

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possibly your turret config in not valid

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also all errors that pop up are very much important

reef granite Dec 1, 2020, 6:02 PM

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I just found why this pop up was coming. I don't have a working machine gun so I commented this code's part. No error now but same issue.
I will search again. Thank you for your time every body. The community is great here

night summit Dec 1, 2020, 6:36 PM

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https://imgur.com/JSNKN5q Just reimported it and it is working now 🤔. No idea what I did wrong the first time. Thanks for the help @stuck oyster!

stuck oyster Dec 1, 2020, 6:37 PM

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weird

runic plover Dec 1, 2020, 7:43 PM

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@night summit is this some StarWars stuff?

true river Dec 1, 2020, 9:14 PM

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@idle umbra
thx!
fixed!
my object builder error.
It ran fine on another computer.
🙂

woeful viper Dec 1, 2020, 11:04 PM

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Why is it that buildings flip axis compared to vehicles? Is there a way to prevent this?
E.g. when i use a vehicle as vehicle, forward in 3den is forward. When i paste it into a building, vehicle's forward is now backwards...

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i want to make buildings (bunkers) that have fitting vehicles (gun installations) which can be placed on same coordinates as the building and fit perfectly. They are exported from the same model scene, so having one flip and not the other is mightily inconvenient

night summit Dec 1, 2020, 11:23 PM

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no its my star box

polar fiber Dec 1, 2020, 11:39 PM

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@woeful viper Do vehicles and buildings have a different value for reversed = (1/0); ?

woeful viper Dec 1, 2020, 11:39 PM

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i have not set anything like it in the geo lod. But if it works, i could try it on geo lod for the buildings

polar fiber Dec 1, 2020, 11:41 PM

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IIRC there's a config parameter for it too. Wondered if it was in some base class for either type of object

woeful viper Dec 1, 2020, 11:51 PM

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class All
{ reversed = 1;
autocenter = 1;

woeful viper Dec 1, 2020, 11:57 PM

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polar fiber IIRC there's a config parameter for it too. Wondered if it was in some base clas...

thanks, it seems either will do (geo lod or config parameter)

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oh wait, no, geo lod didnt do anything (or gets overwritten by config base class...)

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so looks like vehicles/statics default are reversed, but default buildings are not

maiden heron Dec 2, 2020, 12:49 AM

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maiden heron do i need to put every of my tank's track into a vertex group or just the one wi...

anyone can clarify?

woeful viper Dec 2, 2020, 12:51 AM

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clarify your question - what is "every" ? and what is "one with contact"?

stuck oyster Dec 2, 2020, 12:58 AM

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the sample tank in Arma 3 Samples has tracks that show how they need to be set up

woeful viper Dec 2, 2020, 1:00 AM

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the way he describes it, it sounds more like a non-ordinary tank (?) with multiple tracks (no land contact?)

maiden heron Dec 2, 2020, 1:00 AM

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no

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i meant for every track segment

stuck oyster Dec 2, 2020, 1:00 AM

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arma does not use modeled tacks

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tracks are just a strip of mesh

woeful viper Dec 2, 2020, 1:00 AM

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you need one selection for each track to have it UV animate

maiden heron Dec 2, 2020, 1:01 AM

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oh lol

woeful viper Dec 2, 2020, 1:01 AM

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and then you animate vertices of those tracks to align with wheel movements

stuck oyster Dec 2, 2020, 1:01 AM

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check the sample tank in Arma 3 Samples

maiden heron Dec 2, 2020, 1:02 AM

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yeah i have checked it, so i just need a vertice group shaped like a track right?

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but in the sample, only 6 groups it weighted

stuck oyster Dec 2, 2020, 1:02 AM

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you see when you check the sample 😛

maiden heron Dec 2, 2020, 1:02 AM

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not all of the tracks?

stuck oyster Dec 2, 2020, 1:02 AM

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the track mesh moves only up and down with the wheels

maiden heron Dec 2, 2020, 1:02 AM

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thats what im asking

stuck oyster Dec 2, 2020, 1:03 AM

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the animated texture is what makes it look like its rolling

maiden heron Dec 2, 2020, 1:03 AM

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so only 6 podkolo

stuck oyster Dec 2, 2020, 1:03 AM

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if you have 6 wheels then yes

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you can have as many wheels and selections as you like

maiden heron Dec 2, 2020, 1:03 AM

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ahh i get it

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depends on the wheels

woeful viper Dec 2, 2020, 1:04 AM

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stuck oyster you can have as many wheels and selections as you like

except physx doesnt allow more than 20 (10 per side) tp ne simulated

stuck oyster Dec 2, 2020, 1:04 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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well then that many

maiden heron Dec 2, 2020, 1:05 AM

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well i have 5 wheels and 2 sprocket

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5 podkolos then

stuck oyster Dec 2, 2020, 1:05 AM

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you can also name them as you like

maiden heron Dec 2, 2020, 1:05 AM

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i know

stuck oyster Dec 2, 2020, 1:05 AM

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as long as you model selections and configs match

maiden heron Dec 2, 2020, 1:05 AM

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but i dont want to mess up the config later

woeful viper Dec 2, 2020, 1:06 AM

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with podkolo_kolo_pokolo_p4 chances are you mess up quicker than if you use custom names that you understand (unless you are familiar with czech)... my advise.

stuck oyster Dec 2, 2020, 1:07 AM

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changing the names helps to learn to understand the configs too

maiden heron Dec 2, 2020, 1:08 AM

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ah okay thanks for the tips

woeful viper Dec 2, 2020, 1:09 AM

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still glad i decided on my own system back in what... 2013? The skype days... when it was revealed to me that i no longer need to czenglish

marsh canyon Dec 2, 2020, 6:16 AM

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Is it possible to “scale” a Geometry LOD's box? I have a scale-able box (literally a few of transformations) in Resolution and Shadow LOD with help of the Memories, but with Geometry (collision)?

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AKA: it is impossible to transform a vertex of a Geometry right? But edges and faces?

raw beacon Dec 2, 2020, 7:37 AM

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Do you mean like scale the whole thing linearly?

runic plover Dec 2, 2020, 7:38 AM

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You should try if it works. It should work i think.

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A animated door its geometry works also. Also chatacter firegeo works. Tank turret too, so i think to transform "scale" it should work

rough idol Dec 2, 2020, 7:44 AM

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regular geo will let you animate single vertex but most likely it will be no longer convex and hit simulation will not work

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geo physx will not react to single vertex animations

lime basin Dec 2, 2020, 7:53 AM

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i cannot seem to install arma toolbox for blender, even on previous versions? what am i doing wrong lol

marsh canyon Dec 2, 2020, 8:09 AM

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Makes sense, thanks reyhard

lime basin Dec 2, 2020, 8:10 AM

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figured it out, did an oopsie

reef granite Dec 2, 2020, 2:27 PM

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Hello !
I have a "MSE-3 Marid" like vehicle but shooting artillery shells like a tank.

I just figured my yesterday issue :
The turret is visualy rotating but it shoots only in front of the vehicle.
The issue is that my main class is "car". If only I change it to "tank" I have some errors due to the tank nature but... the turret is rotating properly and shoots in the right direction.

Question :
Is it possible to have a car class using a turret shooting some artillery shells like a tank ?

stuck oyster Dec 2, 2020, 2:29 PM

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yes

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you just have error somewhere

reef granite Dec 2, 2020, 2:32 PM

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Ok thx

maiden heron Dec 3, 2020, 1:04 AM

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this boolean difference really getting on my nerves. 😫
made two holes and it was fine. third hole is ticking me off

stuck oyster Dec 3, 2020, 1:05 AM

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boolean can be tricky to use

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sometimes theres need of cleanup before you make new ones

maiden heron Dec 3, 2020, 1:06 AM

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is there any alternative?

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i have already remove doubles

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when i separate the surface it works fine. when i joined it back, the hole gone

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nvm got it. double edges

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in blender polycount is verts+faces+tris?

stuck oyster Dec 3, 2020, 1:29 AM

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que?

maiden heron Dec 3, 2020, 1:29 AM

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que?

stuck oyster Dec 3, 2020, 1:32 AM

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I dont understand the question

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polycount is how many polygons your model has

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in Arma everything is triangulated so your tris cout would be it

maiden heron Dec 3, 2020, 2:04 AM

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oh i see

lime basin Dec 3, 2020, 2:20 AM

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@stuck oyster hello, when i import my model it says the textures aren't mapped? is there something special i have to do to map textures? i have the P: drive and the .paa files but... can't seem to figure out how to apply it to the model in object builder

stuck oyster Dec 3, 2020, 2:30 AM

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no need to ping me specifically I look here often enough to answer if I know.

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wheres the model from? I usually suggest assigning textures in the program the model was made in

lime basin Dec 3, 2020, 2:35 AM

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my bad, thought some of the mods were saying ping me if u need help, it was in blender, and im not aware of assigning textures, how do i go about that? thanks btw!

stuck oyster Dec 3, 2020, 2:42 AM

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im not a moderator

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I just volunteer here.

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Theres a blender to Arma tutorial on BI forums that should get you in right direction

frosty rain Dec 3, 2020, 7:39 AM

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lime basin my bad, thought some of the mods were saying ping me if u need help, it was in b...

Download arma 3 toolbox for blender https://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=20519, create a new material and scroll down until you see "Arma Toolbox Material Settings" you can put the path of the texture there. Make sure the object you're trying to apply the texture to is marked as an arma object in "Arma Object Properties" if you get lost lmk

idle umbra Dec 3, 2020, 7:47 AM

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@stuck oyster hello, when i import my model it says the textures aren't mapped? is there something special i have to do to map textures? i have the P: drive and the .paa files but... can't seem to figure out how to apply it to the model in object builder
@lime basin if the model is using only one texture map. Just press cntrl + A and then E in ob. If multiple, better you do in blender.

maiden heron Dec 4, 2020, 4:16 PM

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do i need to make interior on my reso lod? or in view-pilot is enough?

stuck oyster Dec 4, 2020, 4:20 PM

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for what kind of a thing?

maiden heron Dec 4, 2020, 4:39 PM

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tank

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and lets say i make the view-pilot lod outside of my reso lod, would other player from outside the reso lod can see the pilot?

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as far as i understand, view-pilot lod is only for the pilot's screen

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because im wondering how BI made their periscope above the tank when the pilot is down below. surely its not PIP

stuck oyster Dec 4, 2020, 4:45 PM

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viewpilot lod is just for the pilots own view and not visible outside

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same applies to all of the view Lods

polar fiber Dec 4, 2020, 6:24 PM

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If you have an interior in your resLOD it should be a lot less detailed than the one in your viewPilot. But it's only necessary to have interiors in the resLODs if that part of the vehicle is visible from the outside either through transparent surfaces such as windows, or because the vehicle has wide opening doors/hatches where you would be able to see much more than the unit that occupies that hatch

dusk trench Dec 4, 2020, 8:04 PM

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Vanilla gunner/commander/driver seat is interesting

maiden heron Dec 4, 2020, 11:34 PM

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nice that clears things up

stark pagoda Dec 5, 2020, 5:39 AM

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any good version of blender ? I mean version number

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I used steam's blender and its really wacky

median bough Dec 5, 2020, 5:47 AM

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@stark pagoda
always best to get it from the source directly
https://www.blender.org/
not sure if the blender toolbox for arma works with that version

blender.org

Pablo Vazquez

blender.org - Home of the Blender project - Free and Open 3D Creati...

Home of the Blender project - Free and Open 3D Creation Software

stuck oyster Dec 5, 2020, 5:49 AM

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latest Blender works fine

stark pagoda Dec 5, 2020, 5:53 AM

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my custom headgear doenst mount on my head.... did I do anything wrong ?

stuck oyster Dec 5, 2020, 5:56 AM

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probably missed the things that it needs to work

marsh canyon Dec 5, 2020, 5:56 AM

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Also Steam has legacy build

median bough Dec 5, 2020, 6:03 AM

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probably missed the things that it needs to work
best.comment.ever
😂

stark pagoda Dec 5, 2020, 6:08 AM

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I/O : Exception while reading .... wth is this mean btw

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I cant even port p3d model

median bough Dec 5, 2020, 6:09 AM

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I cant even port p3d model
port?
import or export?

stark pagoda Dec 5, 2020, 6:09 AM

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import

median bough Dec 5, 2020, 6:09 AM

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you can't if binarized

stark pagoda Dec 5, 2020, 6:10 AM

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I can export it but cant import it

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im really confused

marsh canyon Dec 5, 2020, 6:10 AM

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you can't if binarized

median bough Dec 5, 2020, 6:10 AM

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why would you import a P3D of your own model?

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you already have it as blend file

stark pagoda Dec 5, 2020, 6:11 AM

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maybe im dumb idk

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im new to this stuff

marsh canyon Dec 5, 2020, 6:11 AM

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Answer to audio

stark pagoda Dec 5, 2020, 6:12 AM

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I just want to check my p3d file

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but it wont allowed me to import it

marsh canyon Dec 5, 2020, 6:12 AM

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you can't if binarized

stuck oyster Dec 5, 2020, 6:12 AM

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you have to use the original one you made in blender

median bough Dec 5, 2020, 6:12 AM

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tbh, not sure if blender binarizes a P3D at export...

stuck oyster Dec 5, 2020, 6:12 AM

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no

stark pagoda Dec 5, 2020, 6:13 AM

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yeah I export it from fbx to p3d and I want to re-check p3d again idk did I do something wrong ?

marsh canyon Dec 5, 2020, 6:13 AM

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Why do you wanted to do anyways?

stuck oyster Dec 5, 2020, 6:13 AM

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yes you did something wrong if you cant open it anymore