#arma3_model | ARMA | Page 122

sharp halo Sep 7, 2018, 11:15 AM

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Is there a way to make a pilot invisible in ViewPilot LOD?

stuck oyster Sep 7, 2018, 11:27 AM

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dont have the proxy there

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or possibly configure the pilot proxy into hide animation

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could work

sharp halo Sep 7, 2018, 11:30 AM

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Will try with hiding animation, thanks 🙂

slate epoch Sep 7, 2018, 12:32 PM

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https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/143930-general-discussion-dev-branch/?do=findComment&comment=3313477

Bohemia Interactive Forums

General Discussion (dev branch)

On 29.6.2018 at 6:24 AM, nodunit said:

		 
	

	
		
			On 28.6.2018 at 4:50 PM, Lbbde said:
		

		
			
				Could it be that the hangar ...

stuck oyster Sep 7, 2018, 12:39 PM

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thanks for the heads up @slate epoch

slate epoch Sep 7, 2018, 12:53 PM

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salute

charred bolt Sep 7, 2018, 4:06 PM

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With my driver in a vehicle (inherits car_f), why does he have shadows from LOD1, rather than from ShadowVolume - View Pilot LOD?

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Probably found my own answer: https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Creating_Shadow_LODs Pilot Shadow LOD doesn't work.

clear glen Sep 7, 2018, 4:18 PM

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Anyone had issues with ObjectBuilder and scaling?. When i drag around the windows, where they drop into place and the dashed square that previews where they would land are completely different. And the rotating around in view ports has a super low sensitivity, takes like 60 seconds to rotate around a model

charred bolt Sep 7, 2018, 4:26 PM

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Try activating the 'Use Direct 3D' button

clear glen Sep 7, 2018, 4:30 PM

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That did it , Thanks 😃

charred bolt Sep 7, 2018, 4:30 PM

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You're welcome.

stuck oyster Sep 7, 2018, 7:00 PM

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Win 10 and OB do not work well together

tulip beacon Sep 7, 2018, 7:38 PM

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with dev branch they do

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(but who knows what else is broken)

echo rain Sep 7, 2018, 7:48 PM

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@stuck oyster i'm scared to ask but how so? since i use it on win10.

minor jasper Sep 7, 2018, 9:06 PM

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@bb all kinds of files needed in visualstudio libraries that are missing in 64 bit windows 10, so need manual updating sometimes

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afaik

vapid nexus Sep 7, 2018, 11:05 PM

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question what could be causing this sort of wierd shadow clitch /bug shadowlod model is closed

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https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/955215867814403844/F2D86B512864A956810FB48B9C0A16AC119ED39C/

bold flare Sep 7, 2018, 11:06 PM

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What shadow glitch where?

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Don't see anything

vapid nexus Sep 7, 2018, 11:06 PM

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look at the body of the m16a1

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and you can see a line of missing shadow

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like a straight line going from the straight across it

bold flare Sep 7, 2018, 11:06 PM

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https://s.sqf.ovh/firefox_2018-09-08_01-07-04.png that?

vapid nexus Sep 7, 2018, 11:06 PM

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yes

stuck oyster Sep 7, 2018, 11:07 PM

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non closed part

vapid nexus Sep 7, 2018, 11:07 PM

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hmm ok i will go back and check my shadow model again

stuck oyster Sep 7, 2018, 11:08 PM

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first check again

vapid nexus Sep 7, 2018, 11:19 PM

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there was a hidden vert that was making a hole thanks for the help

stuck oyster Sep 7, 2018, 11:19 PM

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👌

wispy orchid Sep 8, 2018, 2:00 PM

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physx wheels question: On the OV-10 Bronco the wheels don't turn. The rpt says Error: Wheel reference not initialized , but I fail to see a fault in AnimationSources wheel/damper, model.cfg and model. The wheels do turn in buldozer with wheel_1/2/3_source . Any ideas for debugging this further?

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diag exe reports: c:\bis\source\dev\futura\lib\transport.cpp(3974)(func: TransportType::CreateAnimationSourceDamperEPE) [AssertUSR] MainThread=5624 Group: Config Vehicle: uns_ov10usn Error when looking for Wheel wheel_1 for damper animations.

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in model.cfg there is a damper with damper_1/2/3_source and wheels with wheel_1/2/3_source

polar fiber Sep 8, 2018, 2:14 PM

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what about the physX config for the wheels?

wispy orchid Sep 8, 2018, 2:15 PM

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copy.paste job with adjustements from the Cesar: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/fQJRKMyXCP/

polar fiber Sep 8, 2018, 2:17 PM

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Might be case sensitive. The error refers to wheel_1 (lower case) as being the physX classname that the animation source is using for the wheel = ###; param

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your physX classnames start with upper case

wispy orchid Sep 8, 2018, 2:17 PM

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ok, trying, thanks!

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@polar fiber thousand thanks! That's it been

jaunty leaf Sep 8, 2018, 3:50 PM

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https://vgy.me/I6iTZQ.png

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It actually turned out aight

sacred grail Sep 8, 2018, 5:07 PM

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nice, High poly mesh for the bake?

atomic path Sep 8, 2018, 5:11 PM

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I have an issue with my static weapon:
the model moves as it's supposed to move (turret rotation on both axes is good, follows the mouse movement, no issues here), but the memorypoints don't follow the movement: it allways fires straight forward, no matter the model's barrel position

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I've found same issue being talked about on BIforums, but there was no solution for it

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Just to make it clear, the memorypoints have proper selections assigned

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so the start/end of the barrel memorypoints have the same named selection as the barrel in the resLODs

outer condor Sep 8, 2018, 5:18 PM

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@atomic path did you check debug.log (via diag.exe)?

atomic path Sep 8, 2018, 5:21 PM

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I'll have to download DEVbranch, need some time

polar fiber Sep 8, 2018, 5:26 PM

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@atomic path do the memory points names match the gunBeg/gunEnd parameter in the config?

atomic path Sep 8, 2018, 5:26 PM

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yes

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just to make sure, those two parameters are in cfgVehicles in turret class?

polar fiber Sep 8, 2018, 5:30 PM

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depends if the weapons has shotFromTurret = 1; or not

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if it does, allegedly it uses gunbeg/end from turret

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/CfgWeapons_Config_Reference#shotFromTurret.3Dfalse

atomic path Sep 8, 2018, 5:31 PM

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I do believe it's inherited from class HMG_127

atomic path Sep 8, 2018, 8:10 PM

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I've found those errors: 22:07:38 Error: bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/NORTH_Maxim_Base/Turrets/MainTurret/: Turret body OtocHlaven_shake not found while initializing the model north\nf_static\maxim\maxim.p3d 22:07:38 Error: bin\config.bin/CfgVehicles/NORTH_Maxim_Base/Turrets/MainTurret/: Turret gun OtocVez not found while initializing the model north\nf_static\maxim\maxim.p3d

stuck oyster Sep 8, 2018, 8:11 PM

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those too could be case sensitive

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you got them exactly the same in configcpp modelcfg and p3d?

atomic path Sep 8, 2018, 8:12 PM

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yeah, just checked it

stuck oyster Sep 8, 2018, 8:16 PM

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// Animation class                
                body = "Walker_Gunner_Optics_Y";
                gun = "Walker_Gunner_Optics_X";                

                // Animation source
                animationSourceBody = "Walker_ARM_Turret";
                animationSourceGun = "Walker_ARM_Gun";

                muzzlePos ="Walker_C_Gun_Muzzle";
                muzzleEnd ="Walker_C_Gun_Chamber";

                selectionFireAnim = "zasleh";

                gunBeg = "Walker_C_Gun_Muzzle";
                gunEnd = "Walker_C_Gun_Chamber";

                memorypointgun  = "Walker_C_Gun_Muzzle";```

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what do you have on these?

atomic path Sep 8, 2018, 8:18 PM

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                gun = "OtocVez";

                animationSourceBody = "turretrotation";
                animationSourceGun = "gunelevation";

        gunBeg = "usti hlavne";
                gunEnd = "konec hlavne";

        selectionFireAnim = "zasleh";

        memoryPointGun = "machinegun";

stuck oyster Sep 8, 2018, 8:18 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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these animation sources move with aiming

atomic path Sep 8, 2018, 8:20 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/qu3RGCF.png

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I don't have the muzzlePos and muzzleEnd though

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The most puzzling part is that the weapon moves properly, just the memorypoints don't

stuck oyster Sep 8, 2018, 8:24 PM

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was this a machine gun?

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did you have the machine gun point in the gun selection?

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oh and are the memorypoints only in the gun selection

atomic path Sep 8, 2018, 8:34 PM

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yeah, machinegun is in the p3d

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the memopoint

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and the memorypoints are in the gun selection

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the axes move quite well on the model

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so some of the memorypoints move well

stuck oyster Sep 8, 2018, 8:40 PM

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and the gun related memorypoints are not part of any other conflicting animated selection?

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do the bullets come from the 0,0,0 or the position of the non moving memorypoint

atomic path Sep 8, 2018, 8:43 PM

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gonna check

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well basically there is this one point that is in selections: "machinegun", "usti hlavne" and "OtocVez" which is the gun selection

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but I don't really know if it is proper way of doing it and the "machinegun" and "usti hlavne" should be two different points

stuck oyster Sep 8, 2018, 8:44 PM

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that could be worth trying

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I think I've always made them separate

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you could also check that the memorypoints move in buldozer by adding small cube to the "machinegun" selection

sturdy parcel Sep 8, 2018, 8:51 PM

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those too could be case sensitive

as general information: ALL named selections in a binarised p3d (odol), which means bones, proxies, and 'components' are baked into the p3d as lower case irrespective of what the model.cfg or filename actUalLY iS

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none of them are known to be case sensitve in the config.

stuck oyster Sep 8, 2018, 8:53 PM

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if you scroll a bit up @sturdy parcel Tetet just had trouble with physx classnames being case sensitive

sturdy parcel Sep 8, 2018, 8:54 PM

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ah ok, something learned new every day, will do

stuck oyster Sep 8, 2018, 8:54 PM

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thought that might be a different case

atomic path Sep 8, 2018, 8:56 PM

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Update: the bullets start in usti_hlavne / magazine memorypoint

polar fiber Sep 8, 2018, 9:04 PM

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@stuck oyster could be that they were working with unpacked data though

stuck oyster Sep 8, 2018, 9:05 PM

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oh true

atomic path Sep 8, 2018, 9:37 PM

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I got one axis to work 😄

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the gun and body properties were named not after the animation classname, but after the selections

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that got me rid of that error in rpt

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and it's possible to fire up and down

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the weapon still won't fire to the sides, although the model moves to the sides properly

woeful viper Sep 8, 2018, 10:01 PM

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have a screenshot for whatever you want to do ? (as it doesnt appear to be 0815 situation)

atomic path Sep 8, 2018, 10:10 PM

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1507150793

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this is the issue: the weapon moves to the sides, but fires forward

woeful viper Sep 8, 2018, 10:56 PM

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oh ok, i confused what you wrote, thought your turrets has a rotation offset (which it doesnt seem to, from the pic)

config wise, i assume it is child of staticweapons class?
For some reason staticweapons seem to not work when using custom names in animations and selections for their config (as opposed to 'regular' vehicles like cars and tanks). So make sure you use the default Arma 2 Czenglish names for everything for starters.

pastebin of the model.cfg and also all the selectionnames the muzzle memorypoints belong to would help identifying the issue

atomic path Sep 9, 2018, 7:15 AM

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here's the model.cfg

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the muzzle points only belong to OtocVez

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Very important thing though: it's causing so much issues scince the movement of the model is different from vanilla "turret". You can imagine it's a sideways turret. The turret moves up and down, and the gun moves right and left (and inherits it's position from the turret)

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https://pastebin.com/f8Wg1KbS

atomic path Sep 9, 2018, 7:35 AM

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I think the model.cfg is good scince the resolutionLODs movement looks good

atomic path Sep 9, 2018, 8:20 AM

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Also, the particles created on firing are created on the end of the barrel

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so the memorypoints move properly

woeful viper Sep 9, 2018, 10:29 AM

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@atomic path you use custom names for animation source of rotation and elevation, and also the animation names themself. Thats what i meant. Use default source names for static turrets: source="mainGun"; for elevation, source="mainTurret"; for rotation. Also, the animation name for turret animation must be mainTurret and for gun elevation must be mainGun

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i had issues with my mortar for the same reason and i was already pulling my hair out... until i used the default names

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also, the animation name for turret animation must be mainTurret and for gun elevation must be mainGun

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selection names can be custom (at least with my mortar i had no issues with that)

atomic path Sep 9, 2018, 10:41 AM

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Right, I've changed the animation sources to default, repacking

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It didn't fix the issue, but I think the left-right aiming is now inverted

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I've also changed the animation source names in cfgVehicles

woeful viper Sep 9, 2018, 11:28 AM

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Hm ok, its been a while since i did the mortar. Cecked again, my annotations only mention name of the animation that must be vanilla, source has no annotation, i guess i just used it just to be safe.
Can you pastebin again?
So you want to use the turret to elevate and gun to traverse. But in your animations you still use maingun with source gunelevation and turret with turretrotation. Idk how your custom sources where defined, but if the names are any indication that seems to be wrong.
If you want turret to elevate, it needs to use the source of the gun, and gun needs to use source of turret

atomic path Sep 9, 2018, 11:30 AM

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I don't think that's the case

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It elevates properly and doesn't traverse

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the memory points and the LODs move

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it looks good

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but doesn't fire good

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as I aim higher, the bullets are fired higher

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so the elevation is working correctly

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as I aim to the right or to the left, the bullets still fly to the front

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https://pastebin.com/xgsyJDr7

woeful viper Sep 9, 2018, 11:33 AM

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and i assume this to be because of static turrets being weird and different to regular vehicle turrets. They have some hardcoded bits (is the only thing i can conclude, because i had very similar issue with my mortar)

atomic path Sep 9, 2018, 11:33 AM

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I've added the staticMG classes to inherit from, doesn't change

woeful viper Sep 9, 2018, 11:33 AM

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i have a turret that moves like yours on my apc, works no problem.

atomic path Sep 9, 2018, 11:34 AM

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https://pastebin.com/t5L56d95

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also CfgVehicles

woeful viper Sep 9, 2018, 11:35 AM

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class maingun
selection="OtocHlaven";
^ seleciton not defined in skeleton

atomic path Sep 9, 2018, 11:36 AM

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you are looking at staticMG class, right?

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it's defined in staticMGweapon skeleton

woeful viper Sep 9, 2018, 11:37 AM

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oh right, sry

atomic path Sep 9, 2018, 11:37 AM

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yeah

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It's soo much clutter in this model.cfg now scince I wanted to add inheritance classes I used for my other static weapon

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(that works)

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hoping for some hardcoded shenanigans

woeful viper Sep 9, 2018, 11:46 AM

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to me it still seems like something is not right
Your animation may work fine, but if the order is broken hardcode doesnt understand it.

You can't break the order of turret (being the parent) and gun (being the child), but that's what you do.

atomic path Sep 9, 2018, 11:46 AM

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I can't make it?

woeful viper Sep 9, 2018, 11:47 AM

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here is my example for my turret on my apc that moves like yours

//Turret config
animationSourceBody="tur2_trav_AnimSrc";
animationSourceGun="tur2_elev_AnimSrc";
body="SecondaryTurret";                            //horizontally moving selection 
gun="SecondaryGun";                                //vertically moving selection
    
//Skeleton:    
"tur2_elev","",                                  
"ax_tur2_trav","tur2_elev",
"tur2_trav","tur2_elev",                    
//Anim:
class SecondaryTurret {  //Frontgun
    source="tur2_elev_AnimSrc";
    selection="tur2_elev";
    axis="ax_tur2_elev";
};
class SecondaryGun: SecondaryTurret {
    source="tur2_trav_AnimSrc";
    selection="tur2_trav";
    axis="ax_tur2_trav";
};

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ok now it should make sense

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as you see, the parent in the animation is still the "turret", but the animation for it uses the elevation animation source.

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In your case you use reverse it: You make turret the child, but keep the animations the same

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this is what breaks it i think

atomic path Sep 9, 2018, 11:52 AM

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right

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I'm changing it to check what will happen

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@woeful viper you are great man, it works now

woeful viper Sep 9, 2018, 11:55 AM

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👍

atomic path Sep 9, 2018, 12:14 PM

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Well now the weapon works but when you aim you look forward

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😄

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previosuly it was the other way around, you were aiming where the weapon was aiming

woeful viper Sep 9, 2018, 12:36 PM

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oh so the controls are reversed (move mouse to left lowers gun) ? That shouldnt be. Maybe something else is missing

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can you post synopsis of your config + skeleton + animation (like i did in the example?) after the change again?

atomic path Sep 9, 2018, 12:38 PM

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            {
                type="rotation";
                source="mainGun";
                selection="OtocVez";
                axis="OsaVeze";
                animPeriod=0;
                minValue="rad -360";
                maxValue="rad +360";
                angle0="rad -360";
                angle1="rad +360";
            };

            class MainGun
            {
                type="rotation";
                source="mainTurret";
                selection="OtocHlaven_shake";
                axis="OsaHlavne";
                animPeriod=0;
                minValue="rad -360";
                maxValue="rad +360";
                angle0="rad -360";
                angle1="rad +360";
            };

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gun = "MainGun";
animationSourceBody = "mainTurret";
animationSourceGun = "mainGun";```

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OsaVeze is horizontal, OsaHlavne is vertical

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I think I got this

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give me a sec

woeful viper Sep 9, 2018, 12:42 PM

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yeah you propably need to swap your axis of rotation

atomic path Sep 9, 2018, 12:42 PM

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It must be something simple

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Think I've got the selections wrong in memorylod now

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repacking

woeful viper Sep 9, 2018, 12:43 PM

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it can get really confusing with this stuff...

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body that is not body and vertical that is not vertical ^^

atomic path Sep 9, 2018, 12:45 PM

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exactly

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I got it now

woeful viper Sep 9, 2018, 12:52 PM

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great

sacred grail Sep 9, 2018, 7:59 PM

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Anyone around to help me with some issues im having baking a high poly to low poly?

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using 3ds max to make HP LP and Cage

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baking in substance painter

quick terrace Sep 9, 2018, 8:03 PM

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would be nice to develop on these issues

sacred grail Sep 9, 2018, 8:05 PM

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check dm's if thats okay

sick skiff Sep 10, 2018, 12:13 AM

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Hello! Tell me how to make a rebreather, that man would not sink?

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 12:14 AM

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you asking how to model one or what?

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whats this sinking about?

sacred grail Sep 10, 2018, 12:24 AM

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I think he means how can he make the rebreather allow you to breath underwater and not drown

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 12:25 AM

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well simples way would be inheriting or copying the config of the existing rebreathers

sick skiff Sep 10, 2018, 12:26 AM

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Please tell me where to get it?

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 12:27 AM

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arma3 configs

sick skiff Sep 10, 2018, 12:28 AM

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Prompt the way

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 12:28 AM

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come on man you do the looking. 😛

sick skiff Sep 10, 2018, 12:29 AM

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👏

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 12:30 AM

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im not your search engine 😛

sacred grail Sep 10, 2018, 12:31 AM

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Hey @stuck oyster What date was Abraham Lincoln born

rugged venture Sep 10, 2018, 12:32 AM

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lol)

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President of USA?

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 12:32 AM

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:C

sacred grail Sep 10, 2018, 12:33 AM

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Guess your not a search engine story checks out.

sick skiff Sep 10, 2018, 12:33 AM

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If I knew where, I would look, thanks for the help.

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When you asked something from the teacher, he also laughed and mocked?

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 12:36 AM

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have you looked into the Arma configs?

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I dont know where they are exactly in there

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I just know they are there

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and I got stuff to do so I cant go in digging

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if you dont know how to look into the configs then say so

sick skiff Sep 10, 2018, 12:39 AM

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I do not know how to look at Arma 3 configs

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 12:40 AM

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so do you have any experience in Arma modding?

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because in order to help you I got to know where to start

sick skiff Sep 10, 2018, 12:42 AM

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In the models, small. I need to add the ability to breathe under the water one of the armor plates. In the configuration of the model, I can fill, but in the configuration of the model it is vanilla arma 3 - no, i do not know where he is

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 12:43 AM

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have you done any modding before?

sick skiff Sep 10, 2018, 12:44 AM

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The question is more about configs, not modding

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 12:45 AM

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im trying to figure out what you know.

sick skiff Sep 10, 2018, 12:49 AM

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I know how to create a curve machine and crookedly cram it into arma 3. I know how to create simple objects, type of a plant. But I do not know how to do it, so that man would not sink under the water in my armor.

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 12:49 AM

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so your man cant swim?

sacred grail Sep 10, 2018, 12:49 AM

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sink or drown?

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 12:50 AM

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👆

sacred grail Sep 10, 2018, 12:50 AM

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sink = can't swim, drown = can't breath.

sick skiff Sep 10, 2018, 12:50 AM

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He sinks, as if nothing is on him (rebreather).

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 12:50 AM

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rebreather does not mean he would not sink

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it would mean he can breathe under water

sick skiff Sep 10, 2018, 12:50 AM

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drown = can't breath.

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 12:51 AM

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yes

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since your name is slaanesh and your talking about armor

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is this spacemarine type of thing?

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which uses custom animations?

sacred grail Sep 10, 2018, 12:51 AM

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Goat how familiar are you with baking

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cause im about to loose my mind

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 12:52 AM

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baking?

sacred grail Sep 10, 2018, 12:52 AM

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model baking

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HP mesh to LP

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 12:52 AM

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well I work in blender so in there I might be able to point you in right direction

sacred grail Sep 10, 2018, 12:53 AM

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You used substance painter before?

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 12:53 AM

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no

sacred grail Sep 10, 2018, 12:53 AM

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kk should still be similarish

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 12:53 AM

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yea I suppose the principles should be the same

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@sick skiff

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📎 unknown.png

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which one of these happen on your dude

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also take pictures of the problem

sacred grail Sep 10, 2018, 12:56 AM

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bob ross returns

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 12:56 AM

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😛 Im much better with real brush. Here on Discord at 4am and freehand mouse this is what you get

sacred grail Sep 10, 2018, 12:57 AM

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😄 also check dm's

sick skiff Sep 10, 2018, 1:00 AM

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https://pp.userapi.com/c847123/v847123979/e58ff/vwLVpaoTDE0.jpg

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 1:00 AM

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ok so he drowns

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does not sink

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now we are getting somewhere

sick skiff Sep 10, 2018, 1:02 AM

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A man can not breathe and die

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 1:03 AM

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yes that is drowning

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so since you have already made a rebreather and got it in game you do know how to configs

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so dont lie to me again.

dapper girder Sep 10, 2018, 1:04 AM

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So, i used mikero tools finally...after getting that all settled every p3d file i have that includes textures wont open in steam arma tools object builder

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i donkt now how to fix this

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 1:05 AM

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your OB settings are likely wrong

dapper girder Sep 10, 2018, 1:05 AM

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its whatever came stock of the steam download

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 1:05 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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or you are launching it from Arma Tools

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and not from the exe

dapper girder Sep 10, 2018, 1:06 AM

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stuff without textures opens tho

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 1:06 AM

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what do you mean it does not open?

dapper girder Sep 10, 2018, 1:06 AM

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it just crashes

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 1:06 AM

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is it a binarized p3d?

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because those never open

dapper girder Sep 10, 2018, 1:07 AM

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nope they are mine

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does mikeros binarize p3d?

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hmm no dont think thats the issue, cause have a p3d without textures that opens and it ran through mikeros

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 1:08 AM

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so they are the originals you have saved

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and not for example in the p:\temp\somefolder

dapper girder Sep 10, 2018, 1:09 AM

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nope its all pathed correctly

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or mikeros would have a shitfit

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the textured files run ingame fine

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 1:10 AM

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any crash message?

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what kind of an object is it?

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something very complex?

dapper girder Sep 10, 2018, 1:11 AM

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its a gun model

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they worked all just fine before i used mikeros

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 1:11 AM

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mikeros does not do anything to your files or OB

dapper girder Sep 10, 2018, 1:12 AM

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ive seen i reorder my configs and stuff though, so not 100% on that

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maybe mikeros did binarize my p3d

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if thats the case, how do i turn that off

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 1:14 AM

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ok so what did you run from mikeros tools?

dapper girder Sep 10, 2018, 1:15 AM

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pboproject

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 1:15 AM

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and that ran ok?

dapper girder Sep 10, 2018, 1:15 AM

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after afew config errors yeh

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 1:15 AM

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ok and does it run again?

dapper girder Sep 10, 2018, 1:15 AM

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yeh i can spam it all i want

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all the right stuff shows up ingame

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 1:15 AM

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ok so its not binarized

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and no it does not touch your original files

dapper girder Sep 10, 2018, 1:16 AM

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it left time stamps, my steam name, and re-organized all my configs...so definately changes stuff

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 1:17 AM

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in the original files?

dapper girder Sep 10, 2018, 1:17 AM

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yup

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 1:17 AM

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what kind of timestamps?

dapper girder Sep 10, 2018, 1:18 AM

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unnecessary info, about this is the mikero tool blah blah blah heres time stamp of when this was run

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 1:18 AM

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@sick skiff look up P:\A3\Characters_F folder for the config for the rebreather

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paste it fully

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because I have never seen such

dapper girder Sep 10, 2018, 1:20 AM

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////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
//DeRap: OrkShoota\config.bin
//Produced from mikero's Dos Tools Dll version 6.44
//'now' is Fri Aug 24 16:17:33 2018 : 'file' last modified on Fri Aug 24 15:23:14 2018
//http://dev-heaven.net/projects/list_files/mikero-pbodll
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

#define ARMA

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 1:21 AM

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derap means you have unpacked it

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so it is possible you have unpacked your files over your originals

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do you have a config.cpp or config.bin in your folder?

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because youre supposed to have cpp

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only

dapper girder Sep 10, 2018, 1:23 AM

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never had a bin

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stuff wouldnt work ingame without a cpp

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 1:24 AM

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bin is what it becomes when its binarized

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is P:\OrkShoota\ where that config is?

dapper girder Sep 10, 2018, 1:24 AM

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sorta

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 1:24 AM

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sorta?

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its 4.30am

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no sortas

dapper girder Sep 10, 2018, 1:24 AM

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yeh that looks right

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 1:25 AM

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is it 100% right?

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do you have some other kind of setup?

dapper girder Sep 10, 2018, 1:25 AM

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seems so, i dont work out of a p drive though

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i just ghost it

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 1:25 AM

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que?

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why not

dapper girder Sep 10, 2018, 1:25 AM

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so i work off a folder in my desktop

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 1:25 AM

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ffs

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ffs

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ffs

dapper girder Sep 10, 2018, 1:25 AM

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and then just link it to be the p drive

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 1:25 AM

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why??

dapper girder Sep 10, 2018, 1:26 AM

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cause it works and why would i want another drive?

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 1:26 AM

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because P is a virtual drive that virtualises the Arma game engine folder structure

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so you work exactly in it

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you work in it beacause the tools work in it

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its not a real drive

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how do you link it?

dapper girder Sep 10, 2018, 1:27 AM

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just told arma tools to call it the p drive

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and then it generates a bullshit p drive

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hasnt been a problem yet, and i think the issue is mikero binarized my files

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at least the p3ds

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 1:29 AM

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yeah sorry I got no idea since you dont work in the right setup. Too late in the night for me to try to solve that.

dapper girder Sep 10, 2018, 1:29 AM

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i guess, stuff i didnt run with mikero opens fine

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so not sure what else to think of it

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maybe catch up with ya different time

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 1:32 AM

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well I cant really start even debugging if you dont have the development environment set up correctly.

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@sturdy parcel can likely tell you if such binarization is possible

sturdy parcel Sep 10, 2018, 3:01 AM

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there may be a misunderstanding here. It sounds like fiesty has done the right things but hasn't explained it well or misunderstands.

P:\ is the \linux file root for everything bis. the bis >engine< has no concept of C:\ or any other drive, nor anything in 'my documents' .

steam tools will create what you call a bulshit phantom P: drive, not very well, but that's ok.

you must point that P:\ to a virgin, empty folder.

your specific project then becomes a sub folder of that drive, NOT, 'c:\my documents'.

you then populate that drive by using arma3p to fill it with all the game engine data.

to be successfull in addon making (not mission making) you must, repeat, must, think in terms of \ and forget all about my docs, C;\great_big_wggly thing, or D:\my_fantastic_rrtm files. They don't; exist in the bis universe.

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as far as pboProject is concerned, yes. it uses bis binarise to binarise your p3ds or wrps, and without bis help binarises everything else because it won't let bis tools get anywhere near them.

slate epoch Sep 10, 2018, 8:47 AM

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I made small update to my post about character heads, added variant for mods only with own uniforms. https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/143930-general-discussion-dev-branch/?do=findComment&comment=3313477

Bohemia Interactive Forums

General Discussion (dev branch)

On 29.6.2018 at 6:24 AM, nodunit said:

		 
	

	
		
			On 28.6.2018 at 4:50 PM, Lbbde said:
		

		
			
				Could it be that the hangar ...

delicate sable Sep 10, 2018, 2:53 PM

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I am having a small issue with players and vehicles passing through my structure even with Geometry LODS. I don't want to fill the chat, so if you could just PM me, any ideas will be much appreciated.

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 2:54 PM

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just fill the chat mate. Standard procedure

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usually your problem is because geometery parts are not convex, they are not named componentXXX, or they dont have mass

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or they are too large

delicate sable Sep 10, 2018, 2:55 PM

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.......ah

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So my structure is large. How do I get around this?

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 2:55 PM

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how large?

delicate sable Sep 10, 2018, 2:56 PM

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hangar for c-17

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 2:56 PM

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I dont know the dimensions for that man

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in meters

bold flare Sep 10, 2018, 2:56 PM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/LOD#Geometry

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 2:56 PM

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😛

delicate sable Sep 10, 2018, 2:56 PM

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my bad

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about 222 long by 75 deep and 40ish high

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that link is what i used. read it all and got frustrated when my object still made no progress

sudden schooner Sep 10, 2018, 2:57 PM

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That's a tad large.

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 2:58 PM

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yea you need to split it into 50m parts

delicate sable Sep 10, 2018, 2:59 PM

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thats what I was thinking. I just thought that BI has some large structures lately, thought there might be a trick

sudden schooner Sep 10, 2018, 3:00 PM

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Dunno any hangars that long except for the buildings that the C17 is being made in. Do you need it that large?

delicate sable Sep 10, 2018, 3:01 PM

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its base off of a triple kc-135 hangar of scale dimensions. Just adapting it for c-17.

sudden schooner Sep 10, 2018, 3:01 PM

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k.

delicate sable Sep 10, 2018, 3:01 PM

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I can break it up, no problem. Thanks for the help.

sacred grail Sep 10, 2018, 3:11 PM

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Keep all objects under 50m in any dimension

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Geometry LOD gets borked beyond that.

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That being said I think it works in the Y axis beyond 50 and the 50 limit is based of the origin so you can sometimes get larger objects if they are symmetrical of the origin. But standard practise is to keep objects under 50m

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 3:16 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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you can put together any kind of structures from smaller parts

delicate sable Sep 10, 2018, 3:21 PM

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So.....are you saying have smaller parts with their own Geometry, then assemble them in OB? Or......pack each part individually and assemble in-game? Those are the only two options I can think of. (I know that's blender, I'm just curious)

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 3:21 PM

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these are all ~50m objects

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I got this thing in Blender that I can export them directly into TB

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so I assemble my map object composition in Blender

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but the concept of building larger structure compositions stands

wispy orchid Sep 10, 2018, 4:06 PM

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if you assemble them in OB the restrictions still apply, so you either compose the building in TB as HorribleGoat said, or use an init script if you want to set it up during mission init

sacred grail Sep 10, 2018, 4:23 PM

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If you are somewhat new to modding I would suggest do what you are doing now. Just keep objects under 50m size 😃

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If they get biggers just split them into seperate p3d's

stuck oyster Sep 10, 2018, 4:27 PM

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👆 good point

charred bolt Sep 10, 2018, 10:57 PM

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Does anyone use OBS to record/stream modding with Object Builder? I need some settings advice, as it is recording upside down, but using OBS to flip vertically doesn't work fully (only flips parts of OB's display!).

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Not to worry - changed from flv output to mp4 and all is good.

dapper girder Sep 10, 2018, 11:46 PM

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@sturdy parcel thanks for the explination, so how do i get the tool to stop binarizing my p3d's inside my work folder?

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I only wanted to the tool to spit out a binarized pbo and not touch any of the other stuff

sturdy parcel Sep 11, 2018, 12:45 AM

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pboProject does NOT binarise p3ds in your source folder. they are all in p:\temp\some\where

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if a binary p3d exists in your source folder, you, or some other process put it there.

dapper girder Sep 11, 2018, 6:50 PM

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hmmm, alrighty thanks!

spiral solstice Sep 11, 2018, 8:09 PM

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how would you retarget the vanilla arma 3 animations for other player models?

stuck oyster Sep 11, 2018, 8:11 PM

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with great difficulty

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What kind of a model do you got? @spiral solstice

spiral solstice Sep 11, 2018, 8:13 PM

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I have a decimated .p3d mesh from zbrush. From what I've noticed, apparently player models are separated by head and uniform

stuck oyster Sep 11, 2018, 8:14 PM

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ok so

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to save me from typing a lot would you post a pic of your character so I know what you are after

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and yes typically head is separated so that the head swapping works

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maybe not then. Alright so you say retarget animations which for me means you would like to use them on different skeleton but I recon you are really after just moving your character with the normal animations which means you are after "how to weight my new character so that animations move it"

spiral solstice Sep 11, 2018, 8:22 PM

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yup

stuck oyster Sep 11, 2018, 8:22 PM

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yup to all of it?

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and also what do you model with?

spiral solstice Sep 11, 2018, 8:25 PM

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I first sculpt in zbrush, next I decimate, then I retopologize with r3ds, then I try to use blender to rig and export textures

stuck oyster Sep 11, 2018, 8:26 PM

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alright so Blender has pretty great weighting tools and you can even transfer/project weights from existing model, like the Arma3 sample character

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and then tweak those to your liking

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Macsers Armarig can be used to test your weights if you just plug your model to use it

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and FHQ toolbox can then export it as ready p3d

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if you use discord search for "weight transfer" you should find my instructions for it somewhere in the history

spiral solstice Sep 11, 2018, 8:29 PM

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thanks man! I'll try to inform you on my progress

stuck oyster Sep 11, 2018, 8:29 PM

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👌

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also we like wip pics here on the channel 😉

royal prism Sep 11, 2018, 10:01 PM

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heyho guys.

i want to animate a ceiling fan that it will rotate 24/7 and if its possible, to stop it

stuck oyster Sep 11, 2018, 10:02 PM

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you can use animation source "time" and make 2 fan parts, one animating and one still

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and hide the other when needed

royal prism Sep 11, 2018, 10:03 PM

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thats a nice idea 😄

royal prism Sep 11, 2018, 10:46 PM

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like that? @stuck oyster

class Fan_1
            {
                type="rotationY";
                source="time";
                selection="Fan_01";
                axis="Fan_01_axis";
                sourceAddress="loop";
                angle0="rad 0";
                angle1="rad 360";
            };

royal prism Sep 11, 2018, 11:08 PM

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cuz that is not working

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nvm we missed rotation

ruby cave Sep 12, 2018, 2:40 AM

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Is it possible to place proxies inside of the blender arma 3 toolbox and export to p3d?

stuck oyster Sep 12, 2018, 4:16 PM

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yes but Id recon you cant view them in Blender. so they would be just the proxy triangles

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latest FHQ toolbox had some new dialogs for that I think

tough sinew Sep 12, 2018, 4:23 PM

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Hello! I have the default arma 3 crane model and I made some modifications to make it spin like as its working. The thing is in bulldozer I can see it spinning but once ingame, It does nothing :S

stuck oyster Sep 12, 2018, 4:25 PM

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how did you do modifications to Arma 3 model?

strong plaza Sep 12, 2018, 4:25 PM

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you have an arma 3 mlod of a crane?

stuck oyster Sep 12, 2018, 4:25 PM

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because thats not allowed

tough sinew Sep 12, 2018, 4:25 PM

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I got the model on internet

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of armas p3d

stuck oyster Sep 12, 2018, 4:26 PM

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no nonono

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thats ripped and illegal to use

tough sinew Sep 12, 2018, 4:26 PM

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Oh

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didnt know

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deletting

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deletting

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Let me search another model

stuck oyster Sep 12, 2018, 4:26 PM

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report the site to the email on the description of the #ip_rights_violations channel

strong plaza Sep 12, 2018, 4:26 PM

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is it like a tower crane? I think there's one from arma 2 samples that you can use

tough sinew Sep 12, 2018, 4:27 PM

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pff I dont know the website

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its arma default crane

strong plaza Sep 12, 2018, 4:27 PM

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I don't know what that means

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is it a tower crane?

tough sinew Sep 12, 2018, 4:27 PM

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https://gyazo.com/2eb529abdec734e1485c52b592c5bb47

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this one

strong plaza Sep 12, 2018, 4:27 PM

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that actually looks like the arma 2 tower crane

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download the arma 2 sample models

tough sinew Sep 12, 2018, 4:28 PM

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I dont know I searched for a moving arma crane model

stuck oyster Sep 12, 2018, 4:28 PM

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is it in the samples or the released data packages?

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you pretty much cant find legit p3d on interwebs 😄

tough sinew Sep 12, 2018, 4:28 PM

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I downloaded a few days ago from a website dont even know wich one i just started modifying it todat

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today*

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Maybe it was a samples page

strong plaza Sep 12, 2018, 4:29 PM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_2_Sample_Models

Arma 2 Sample Models

tough sinew Sep 12, 2018, 4:37 PM

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Cant download the packs

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ERR Timed aout

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Maybe this one? http://www.armaholic.com/datas/users/4-land_a_cranecon.png

strong plaza Sep 12, 2018, 4:45 PM

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download the torrents

tough sinew Sep 12, 2018, 4:58 PM

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Anyone can check it for me? I really cant download it even from utorrent xd

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nah

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forget about it, it generates more problems than solutions XD

cyan heart Sep 13, 2018, 7:05 PM

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Hola, anyone any idea why my character models go black in shade for some reason, I have no shadow LOD for now, still same issue

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the faces turned to the sun looks perfect, but away from the sun its pitch black

stuck oyster Sep 13, 2018, 7:09 PM

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bad AS texture or bad ambient config in rvmat perhaps

cyan heart Sep 13, 2018, 7:11 PM

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uhm, gonna try the AS, thanks

valid gorge Sep 13, 2018, 9:26 PM

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i'm working on a model.cfg for my helicopter and i was wondering if somebody could better explain to me what "source" exactly means. I've been using this https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Model_Config but all it says for "source" is "controller used for input" and also is "selection" what i want it to animate inside the model?

stuck oyster Sep 13, 2018, 9:28 PM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Model_Config#Animation_sources

Model Config

valid gorge Sep 13, 2018, 9:29 PM

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well i guess this some how helps

stuck oyster Sep 13, 2018, 9:31 PM

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source is the thing that gives animation info when to move

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there are the listed engine sourcers above

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or you can define your owns

valid gorge Sep 13, 2018, 9:35 PM

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alright thanks

valid gorge Sep 13, 2018, 10:41 PM

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@stuck oyster would you happen to have anything on how to make an axis for something in object builder. For example i have my alt1 and alt2 selection and i want to make an axis for them and be called osa_alt1 and osa_alt2.

stuck oyster Sep 13, 2018, 10:44 PM

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you need 2 points that form the axis

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and you need to create a named selection with the right name with those 2 points selected

valid gorge Sep 13, 2018, 10:47 PM

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Alright thanks

wary cipher Sep 14, 2018, 7:48 AM

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Ive been trying to get a door to animate but I immediately got stuck on the wiki

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In the MemoryLOD define the rotational axis via two vertexes

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if i have a regular door that rotates when openen, the rotational axis are the hinges of the door right, so why do I need 2 vertexes?

halcyon wren Sep 14, 2018, 8:01 AM

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The must rotate around a vector. You use two vertices to define the vector.

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if it is a door that rotates around the up axis, you only require one vertex

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but the animation type must then be rotationY

wary cipher Sep 14, 2018, 8:07 AM

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https://imgur.com/a/H00dL49

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thats my door

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if i understand right I should add a vertex at the crusor, name it and define it in the config to RotateZ or X and ill be fine?

charred bolt Sep 14, 2018, 9:20 AM

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It's often simpler to put down two points (one on the bottom hinge, one on the top) to form an axis, then use type = "rotation".

halcyon wren Sep 14, 2018, 11:34 AM

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By definition it is not. 😄

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1 vertex < 2 vertices

charred bolt Sep 14, 2018, 11:52 AM

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if you put two vertices for an axis you don't have to worry about whether it is rotationX Y or Z = simpler 😉

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his door might not also be vertical...

halcyon wren Sep 14, 2018, 11:53 AM

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regular rotation is more versatile.

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But if you deal with large amounts of data, i.e many doors, you're better off with simpler setups involving baseclasses and fewer memory points. 😉

charred bolt Sep 14, 2018, 11:59 AM

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So by simpler with two axis points, I'm referring to the new modder who is making his first door and probably is struggling to understand whether it's X Y or Z rotation (as in the original poster). That's my experience in helping people anyway. Single point axis with restricted rotation type are less complex but harder to explain/understand initially.

halcyon wren Sep 14, 2018, 12:01 PM

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If you want to teach model.cfg anim concepts correctly, you should start with type=direct.

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All of the other types are shorthands for this.

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Using "direct" as the basis to form understanding of model.cfg type animations will immediately prevent you from falling into a thinking pattern of axises and translations as separate items. As cheesy as it sounds, you quite literally enter the matrix with direct. 😄 You also will understand how chained animations compound into a final result and that rotation orders arent that hard to maintain.

For just a door its overkill, as rotationY will get you there the fastest. But it always helps knowing the basics when tackling complex linear animation setups.

wary cipher Sep 14, 2018, 7:57 PM

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Is there any reason object builder isnt accepting a .p3d with just 2 vertexes? 😃

stuck oyster Sep 14, 2018, 8:00 PM

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what do you mean not accepting?

wary cipher Sep 14, 2018, 8:00 PM

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well it gives me an error that its unable to load

stuck oyster Sep 14, 2018, 8:00 PM

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what does it say

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where is the p3d from?

wary cipher Sep 14, 2018, 8:00 PM

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"Unable to load file. Load error"

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blender

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ive exported it using just the selection

stuck oyster Sep 14, 2018, 8:01 PM

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was the selection ticked as arma object

wary cipher Sep 14, 2018, 8:01 PM

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my hero

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indeed it was not

stuck oyster Sep 14, 2018, 8:01 PM

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user error is the usual problem 😛

wary cipher Sep 14, 2018, 8:02 PM

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its like forgetting a ; in your code >.<

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Hmm

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in the example file the axis component has 2 vertexes, with me it detects both as seperate components

stuck oyster Sep 14, 2018, 8:07 PM

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what do you mean?

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where

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and yes they would be separate components in OB sense as they are not connected in any way

wary cipher Sep 14, 2018, 8:08 PM

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Oh because the example house has that

stuck oyster Sep 14, 2018, 8:08 PM

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you dont usually have "componentXXX" names in memory lod though

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any number of points can be saved into a single named selection though

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when you create a new one or redefine old one

wary cipher Sep 14, 2018, 8:10 PM

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hmm i dont understand

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I cant name them both the same

stuck oyster Sep 14, 2018, 8:11 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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no you need to have both selected and then create the selection

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same applies in Blender

wary cipher Sep 14, 2018, 8:12 PM

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aaaah gotcha

stuck oyster Sep 14, 2018, 8:12 PM

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you can create the same selections there with the vertex groups

wary cipher Sep 14, 2018, 8:12 PM

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thanks again 😄

stuck oyster Sep 14, 2018, 8:20 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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dun dun dun dun dun

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special weird stuff incoming 😄

wary cipher Sep 14, 2018, 8:28 PM

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are you building a space shuttle heatshield by heatshield? 😛

stuck oyster Sep 14, 2018, 8:29 PM

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no

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but something in that general direction maybe

wary cipher Sep 14, 2018, 8:32 PM

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lol and here I am battling with a door xD

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im missing a step

stuck oyster Sep 14, 2018, 8:33 PM

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https://www.moddb.com/mods/lost-dragons

Mod DB

Lost Dragons mod for ARMA 3

Lost Dragons is a multiplayer total modification aiming to bring out a new thrilling gamemode for Arma3 . Our concept is futuristic objective based team warfare with randomly generated map elements to ensure every game is a unique experience with completely...

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in case youre wondering how far the engine can be pushed

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but what seems to be the current problem with your door?

wary cipher Sep 14, 2018, 8:35 PM

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well i named the door component that needs to animate

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copied the names memory lods in

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and thats where i get lost a bit, i did edit the files but they start about Door1_source for example

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long story short when i try the example in bulldozer with the door selected i can open and close it with my mouse wheel

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my door doesnt 😃

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i opened the example in blender too, didnt see an actual animation there either i think

stuck oyster Sep 14, 2018, 8:37 PM

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no its not saved there

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the model.cfg classes are what define them

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they are not visible anywhre

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theyre all code

wary cipher Sep 14, 2018, 8:37 PM

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ooh i dont even have that so thatll be it

stuck oyster Sep 14, 2018, 8:38 PM

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🙈

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yes

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that would be it

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/ArmA:_How_to_animate_a_model

ArmA: How to animate a model

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this is a good read

wary cipher Sep 14, 2018, 8:38 PM

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i had a feeling i was missing a step

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to be honest thats pretty dry material for me 😂

stuck oyster Sep 14, 2018, 8:39 PM

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cant be helped

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most of Arma material is dry

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you just have to learn to study them

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it will also help you in life if you can read through and uderstand stuff like that

wary cipher Sep 14, 2018, 8:41 PM

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believe me i wish i was better at it 😃

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it works 😄

wary cipher Sep 14, 2018, 9:09 PM

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at least in bulldozer lol

stuck oyster Sep 14, 2018, 9:38 PM

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👍 thats the first step

wary cipher Sep 14, 2018, 9:45 PM

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allright its working but now i somehow broke my geometry -_-"

stuck oyster Sep 14, 2018, 9:46 PM

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whatcha mean?

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in game or what?

wary cipher Sep 14, 2018, 9:51 PM

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yeah

torn pumice Sep 14, 2018, 9:52 PM

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i

wary cipher Sep 14, 2018, 9:52 PM

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ill figure it out

torn pumice Sep 14, 2018, 9:52 PM

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would like to play arma with someone

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im a new player sooooooo

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although i love games like this

stuck oyster Sep 14, 2018, 9:56 PM

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@torn pumice wrong channel go to #looking_for_game and also read the #rules

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@wary cipher geometry does not move outside the origianl bounds of the model so if it opens beyond those it wont work

wary cipher Sep 14, 2018, 9:57 PM

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the door opens to the inside

stuck oyster Sep 14, 2018, 9:57 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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well does the door geometery piece have right selection name?

wary cipher Sep 14, 2018, 9:58 PM

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yeah

stuck oyster Sep 14, 2018, 9:58 PM

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are all geometry pieces named componentXXX and doe they have masss

wary cipher Sep 14, 2018, 9:58 PM

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the entire geomitry broke though

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masses

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damnit why do i forget these things

stuck oyster Sep 14, 2018, 9:59 PM

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u nub 😝

wary cipher Sep 14, 2018, 9:59 PM

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very true xD

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started learning last week 😛

stuck oyster Sep 14, 2018, 10:00 PM

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you'll get better in a few months/years

wary cipher Sep 14, 2018, 10:00 PM

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ah and the fire geo for just the door doesnt work because i dont have a texture applied i think

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i hope so, i to do this

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i like*

stuck oyster Sep 14, 2018, 10:00 PM

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fire goem uses penetration rvmats from a3\data\penetration

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for effects and penetration resistance

wary cipher Sep 14, 2018, 10:00 PM

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not there yet

stuck oyster Sep 14, 2018, 10:01 PM

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no textures

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on geometry

wary cipher Sep 14, 2018, 10:01 PM

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oh right why did i even say that

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i dont

stuck oyster Sep 14, 2018, 10:01 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

wary cipher Sep 14, 2018, 10:01 PM

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thats strange then

stuck oyster Sep 14, 2018, 10:01 PM

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but they need to be convex blocks

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and named component

wary cipher Sep 14, 2018, 10:02 PM

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they are

stuck oyster Sep 14, 2018, 10:02 PM

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so what makes you think they dont work?

wary cipher Sep 14, 2018, 10:05 PM

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well when i fire at the building it registers the shots

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but when i fire at the door they just go through

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I also somehow managed to mess up my steps

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lol

stuck oyster Sep 14, 2018, 10:06 PM

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steps should have just a ramp as geometry btw

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how thin is your door geometry?

wary cipher Sep 14, 2018, 10:07 PM

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6.5cm

stuck oyster Sep 14, 2018, 10:08 PM

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make it thicker and try again

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stuff less than 10cm may have issues I recall

wary cipher Sep 14, 2018, 10:09 PM

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ill try

velvet adder Sep 14, 2018, 10:19 PM

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👀 hey guys I never participated in the ArmA community like this

wary cipher Sep 14, 2018, 10:19 PM

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can still walk and shoot through the door

stuck oyster Sep 14, 2018, 10:19 PM

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@wary cipher you sure it has componenxxx name

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@velvet adder 👋

velvet adder Sep 14, 2018, 10:20 PM

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I want to show you guys something I made

stuck oyster Sep 14, 2018, 10:20 PM

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sure

velvet adder Sep 14, 2018, 10:20 PM

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it's like .. kindergarden crafting

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https://orig00.deviantart.net/dc91/f/2018/257/7/d/dddd_by_star_abraham-dcmuq8o.png

wary cipher Sep 14, 2018, 10:20 PM

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the door is called Door1 in the geometries too

velvet adder Sep 14, 2018, 10:20 PM

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I just wonder if any of y'all think it's cool.

stuck oyster Sep 14, 2018, 10:20 PM

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oh sure its a nice looking tank

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@wary cipher but does it have a componentXXX name

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and mass

velvet adder Sep 14, 2018, 10:21 PM

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it's more or less ripping-off the OPFOR apc and Rhino Tank destroyer

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tweaks everywhere

wary cipher Sep 14, 2018, 10:22 PM

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it has mass assigned now yes :P
I just dont get the name part, if i call it a componentxxx, it wont animate?

stuck oyster Sep 14, 2018, 10:23 PM

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no it must have both names

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run find components form the structure - topology

wary cipher Sep 14, 2018, 10:24 PM

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aah i see now

stuck oyster Sep 14, 2018, 10:24 PM

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😛

wary cipher Sep 14, 2018, 10:31 PM

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beautiful

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that helped me a lot man thanks 😄

stuck oyster Sep 14, 2018, 10:31 PM

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👌

stuck oyster Sep 14, 2018, 11:31 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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since @thorny rapids did not believe Im not just slacking while map stuff process

thorny rapids Sep 14, 2018, 11:32 PM

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ok i trust you again HG

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but only barely

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 2:37 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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building up the old shape it had 😄

pale quartz Sep 15, 2018, 7:10 AM

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@stuck oyster which version of blender and A3 tools are you using? I have blender 2.79 installed and tools 1.6 but the options seem either broken or not to match any guides I’ve seen on how to configure for export.

pale quartz Sep 15, 2018, 7:42 AM

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Never mind. I think I found my error. Make Arma object step changed.

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Sorry to ping you.

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 10:19 AM

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No problem and I do got latest everything. Got to keep tools up to date.

silver zenith Sep 15, 2018, 2:15 PM

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can't wait to see whatever space thing you're doing

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 2:19 PM

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thingies thingies

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but damnit Blender stats to glog up with 50k+ objects in it 😝

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makes hard to turn it into terrain builder

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 2:22 PM

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50k lol

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how many verts? 😛

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 2:22 PM

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its not about vert count

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its bout the object count

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Blender handles 20k objects pretty well but above that it slows down a lot

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understandable but make my terrain composition slow

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 2:23 PM

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Yeah i get it 😃

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was just curious ^^

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rvmats are wrekcing my brain now

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should i be able to see the textures in buldozer if set correctly?

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 2:35 PM

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yes

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 2:35 PM

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hmmx

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 2:36 PM

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theres mass texture rename tool in one of the top bar menus

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if the path is red there its wrong

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 2:38 PM

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GG_Shack\data\GG_Shack.rvmat

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also red with \ in front

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 2:40 PM

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whats your path to textures in the file - settings?

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 2:40 PM

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texture="GG_Shack\tex\GG_Shack_dt.paa";

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 2:40 PM

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in the settings?

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 2:40 PM

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oh wait no

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so i need both

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 2:40 PM

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no

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stop

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file menu

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settings

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what do you have there

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well ok file - options

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📎 unknown.png

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should be about like this

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 2:41 PM

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aah i have about nothing ticked

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came like this

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 2:42 PM

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dont mind the ticked ones

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those are just what I like

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the path to textures is what matters

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is

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yours

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P:\

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 2:42 PM

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Ah I dont have a path for textures

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 2:43 PM

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so its empty?

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 2:43 PM

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it was, ive pointed it to P now

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 2:44 PM

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alrigth

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check the mass renamer again

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 2:44 PM

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still same behaviour

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do i need to restart object builder perhaps

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 2:45 PM

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buldozer at least

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do you have p: drive set up?

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 2:45 PM

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yeah

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i mean

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i mounted it like buldozer wanted

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is there more to set up?

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 2:46 PM

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is your files in it?

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 2:46 PM

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negative

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 2:46 PM

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🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 2:46 PM

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those are in my documents lol

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had no idea xD

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 2:46 PM

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🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈

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🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈 🙈

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 2:46 PM

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glad youre having a laugh xD

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 2:46 PM

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no

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im crying

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youre really crawling ass front into the tree here xD

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https://pmc.editing.wiki/doku.php?id=arma3:tools

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start here

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 2:47 PM

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im sorry man 😂

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 2:47 PM

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its alright. newbs make mistakes

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just that this trend has been growing lately

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its not your fault

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 2:48 PM

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for me honestly its just the documentation is so technical

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 2:48 PM

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modding is technical

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no way around it

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 2:48 PM

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im more of a tutorial kind of guy, see someone do it and learn from that

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 2:48 PM

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things have to be made in very specific way

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for some reason everyone keeps saying that

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 2:49 PM

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that way i also learn what that specific way of setting up is because i can follow steps and see what happens

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now i have get 10 tabs open to get my information piece by piece

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 2:49 PM

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cant be helped I guess

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unfortunately most video material for Arma is bogus

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or outdated

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 2:50 PM

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indeed

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 2:50 PM

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very few new videos are produced

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 2:50 PM

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the usset sh*t i had to sift through

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utter*

woeful viper Sep 15, 2018, 2:50 PM

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be the first to create the all encompassing high quality tutorial then

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 2:50 PM

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and the old ones are not updated and cause a lot of trouble

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I dont have time for that xD

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and I dont like video tutorials

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 2:51 PM

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Well surely you dont think im that far @woeful viper 😛

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But, I get where thats coming from and Ill consider that once i get the hang of things

woeful viper Sep 15, 2018, 2:52 PM

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yeah, but you will - and thats where people decide that it was alright and dont bother to create something better.

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 3:12 PM

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Well i cant seem to get the textures to actually show up so 😂

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ah maybe i shoudve been editing the right .rvmat file >.<

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 3:22 PM

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possibly

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that often helps

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 3:28 PM

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still nothing

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 3:28 PM

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the paths are black in the material renamer tool?

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and rvmat paths are right too

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 3:29 PM

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class Stage2 // Res texture
{
texture="GG_Buildings\GG_Shack\tex\GG_Shack_dt.paa";

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in the renamer tool: GG_Buildings\GG_Shack\data\GG_Shack.rvmat

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(is black)

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 3:30 PM

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mm I think you need to pastebin your whole rvmat

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 3:30 PM

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https://pastebin.com/Ze3U0Xyw

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 3:32 PM

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do you have the _CO texture assigned to the mesh too?

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and what does it look like in Buldozer

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 3:33 PM

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just the bare model

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wait _CO

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 3:34 PM

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if you select the model

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all of it

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and hit E

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 3:35 PM

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yeah thats where i applied the rvmat to all

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 3:35 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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did you give it a texture too?

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 3:35 PM

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shit

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nope

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also

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those darn filenames

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 3:36 PM

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and are your files in the P:\yourfile\path\structure\to\your\textures_rightsuffix.paa

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 3:36 PM

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yeah

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im just doubting about my suffixes now

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 3:37 PM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/ArmA:_Texture_Naming_Rules

ArmA: Texture Naming Rules

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 3:38 PM

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i was looking for that thnQ 😂

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 3:41 PM

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main thing is that the right suffix has to be there for the texture to convert right

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however the diffuse texture (_CO / _CA) should show up in buldozer

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your tool setup might be off too if buldozer does not recognize P: drive

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if you have set up the P: and the tools with the Arma Tools and run OB from Arma Tools there is a chance that theyve got messed up

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the PMC link to the tools setup is so far the only relieable way to set things up in working order

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 3:56 PM

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i just go to steam - tools - arma 3 tools -> play game

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and im guessing thats what they mean with the Arma3Tools.exe launcher?

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but I do think buldozer recognizes the P drive because before I had this brown silhouette of my model, now its actually the model like when viewing it in blender

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 3:59 PM

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yeah that the usual way people start and I guess how BI meant it to work but it rarely does work right

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and if you saw a silhouette I would wager your export had something wrong with it and the face normals were bugged

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but if it looks right now then no need to think about that right now

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PMC tools setup does things a little different

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and you with that you use ArmaTools only once

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when you first install it

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then you never run it again

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and you use the programs from their installation folders and the real exes

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or make shortcuts for them

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it has something to do with how the user account/admin access privlidges get mixed up and the programs dont see each other right

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or something like that

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 4:03 PM

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I see

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Ill try that then

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 4:03 PM

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if you do the PMC instructions to the T you should be alright

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 4:04 PM

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if i uninstall it in steam itll dismount the p drive and all right

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 4:04 PM

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I guess so

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 4:04 PM

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here goes a gamble then

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 4:04 PM

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the P is just a virtual drive though, the actual folder it points to stays

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 4:20 PM

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well its not buldozer 😂

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i just loaded it ingame and got no errors but also no texture

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it loads it but does not show it it seems

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 4:29 PM

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look up El Tyranos blender to Arma tutorials

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they could perhaps point you in the right direction

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 5:36 PM

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well it helped

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ive got all the maps working except for the _co xD

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 6:10 PM

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Alright no idea whats different now but its working 😄

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 7:08 PM

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https://imgur.com/gallery/HJzhZQe

Imgur

Have you ever seen an artist work marble?

▶ Play video

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some inspiration for all model makers

woeful viper Sep 15, 2018, 7:22 PM

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yes, lets use alot of boolean operations 😄

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 11:31 PM

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https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/955216255498468619/EDB3FC09BAD098977C905DA4F542B5290E30D12C/

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im calling it a day 😃

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goodnight people

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 11:36 PM

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gratz you got it in game!

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assuming everything works now?

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😄

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 11:36 PM

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yeah took some fiidling

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and tomorrow im going to try and figure out why the shadows are upside down

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 11:37 PM

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shadowlod must be closed.

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 11:40 PM

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oh i dont have that yet

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i mean the _sa ones

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 11:41 PM

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_sa?

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AS?

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ambient shadow?

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 11:42 PM

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excuse me yeah that one

stuck oyster Sep 15, 2018, 11:42 PM

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MM your normalmap probably needs inverted green color channel

wary cipher Sep 15, 2018, 11:42 PM

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ill give that a try tomorrow

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really need sleep 😃

white jay Sep 16, 2018, 5:02 AM

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Wondering if anyone could help me, I'm converting a GAU-21 model to A3, how would I make the gun belt flexible as I turn the turret, if that is possible?

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Here's the weapon to give a better idea https://i.gyazo.com/344c5a1df052d53b688cf80d13a65236.png

fathom dagger Sep 16, 2018, 5:37 AM

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nah i don't think that's possible. I'm not a modelling person and even I think that's not a thing.

white jay Sep 16, 2018, 5:41 AM

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Awww man 😩

spiral solstice Sep 16, 2018, 7:15 AM

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@white jay Maybe adding an IK bone could work

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there's tutorials for it in blender and max

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I could be wrong though, so probably wait for other suggestions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3pxknjexEI

rough idol Sep 16, 2018, 8:49 AM

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@white jay isDiscrete= 0 in skeleton and then apply some weights

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You can observe how it's working on nyx m2 belt

lusty ginkgo Sep 16, 2018, 10:51 AM

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when using diag_drawmode does it simply display the different LOD's or does it only display them if they are functional?
I am checking the view geometry and want an easy way to test it

lime nebula Sep 16, 2018, 11:38 AM

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the easy way to test it, it's just go with your camera inside the view geometry and see if all far objects disappear

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That's how I test it

lusty ginkgo Sep 16, 2018, 11:43 AM

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that is only on objects that occlude things

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I am mostly worried about trees and foliage

halcyon wren Sep 16, 2018, 12:06 PM

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The param is spelled isDiscrete

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(Just to prevent possible confusion and/or something getting copypasted for eternity)

lime nebula Sep 16, 2018, 1:17 PM

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Anyone already experienced the viewDensityCoef named properties ?

stuck oyster Sep 16, 2018, 1:23 PM

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@white jay where are you converting it from? Just so you know using models from other games is not allowed.

rugged venture Sep 16, 2018, 3:30 PM

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anyone know, why it happened? https://i.imgur.com/OZmPOi9.png

stuck oyster Sep 16, 2018, 3:31 PM

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what are you trying to do?

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is that addon builder error?

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@rugged venture

rugged venture Sep 16, 2018, 3:32 PM

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yep

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I trying pack my addon and binarize model

strong plaza Sep 16, 2018, 3:35 PM

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don't use addon builder

rugged venture Sep 16, 2018, 3:36 PM

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why?

strong plaza Sep 16, 2018, 3:36 PM

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its crap

rugged venture Sep 16, 2018, 3:37 PM

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What do I do then?

stuck oyster Sep 16, 2018, 3:37 PM

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addon builder lets just about any errors through it

strong plaza Sep 16, 2018, 3:37 PM

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get mikeros tools https://armaservices.maverick-applications.com/Products/MikerosDosTools/FileBrowserFree

Maverick Applications - ArmA

Maverick Applications - ArmA Services

stuck oyster Sep 16, 2018, 3:37 PM

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if you have managed to get it into that state you got something big wrong

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Mikeros toolset comes with PBOProject

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which packs your stuff AND more importantly infrorms you of most errors you can possibly make

stuck oyster Sep 16, 2018, 4:03 PM

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@rugged venture did you get Mikeros tools and work out the problem?

rugged venture Sep 16, 2018, 4:04 PM

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Not really, writes that it can not find any files with another pbo

stuck oyster Sep 16, 2018, 4:05 PM

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its possibly you have not set up your development environment right

rugged venture Sep 16, 2018, 4:05 PM

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P drive?

stuck oyster Sep 16, 2018, 4:05 PM

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etc

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https://pmc.editing.wiki/doku.php?id=arma3:tools

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I would urge you to follow the installation instructions here so we have a proper baseline for debug

rugged venture Sep 16, 2018, 4:17 PM

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I make this))) Thanks buddy)

valid gorge Sep 16, 2018, 6:32 PM

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what actually makes something like a helicopter be able to fly in arma 3? Is it the model.cfg because i thought that just does the animations.

stuck oyster Sep 16, 2018, 6:33 PM

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config.cpp defined vehicle type

valid gorge Sep 16, 2018, 7:06 PM

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mines defined but it won't fly

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it won't even move

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class UH60M: Helicopter

stuck oyster Sep 16, 2018, 7:08 PM

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it does need a bit more than that

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look up the example helo in the Arma 3 samples

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that has all the info you need to make it fly

valid gorge Sep 16, 2018, 7:31 PM

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@stuck oyster are you talking about this?

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class Test_Heli_01_base_F: Helicopter_Base_H
{
armor = 30; /// just some protection against missiles, collisions and explosions
altFullForce = 4000; /// in what height do the engines still have full thrust
altNoForce = 6000; /// thrust of the engines interpolates to zero between altFullForce and altNoForce
maxSpeed = 300; /// what is the maximum speed of the vehicle
maxFordingDepth = 0.55; /// how deep could the vehicle be in water without getting some damage
mainBladeRadius = 7.0; /// describes the radius of main rotor - used for collision detection
//multiplier of lift force
liftForceCoef = 1.1;
//multiplier of body friction
bodyFrictionCoef = 0.7;
//multiplier of bank force
cyclicAsideForceCoef = 1.0;
//multiplier of dive force
cyclicForwardForceCoef = 1.0;
//multiplier of back rotor force
backRotorForceCoef = 1.0;

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because i have that and it still doesn't fly

stuck oyster Sep 16, 2018, 7:33 PM

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could be many things I guess

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what have you set as your helicopters mass for example

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you must compare everything to the sample helo

valid gorge Sep 16, 2018, 7:33 PM

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where can i check that?

stuck oyster Sep 16, 2018, 7:35 PM

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dont have time to write down more clearer instuctions right now. check out El Tyranos tutorials or BI forums for more help

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you may be missing quite a bit of basic workflow if you dont yet know where mass is

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so you will need to fill in the gaps

valid gorge Sep 16, 2018, 7:37 PM

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if i right click the points in the geometry lod i have an option for weight and it just says 100%

stuck oyster Sep 16, 2018, 7:37 PM

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not weight

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mass

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it has different dialog for it

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look up the el tyranos tutorials

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they are most recent I know of

white jay Sep 17, 2018, 6:18 AM

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@stuck oyster u may check out advanced groups in blender. massive performance boost for when u need alot of objects from a certain amount of assets. like lets say u generate a forrest and u got like 100 advanced high detailed models to randomlz generate the forrest. no performance loss at all

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEAPtX6-bjc

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called group instances in english

stuck oyster Sep 17, 2018, 8:25 AM

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@white jay thanks I'll check it out.

silver zenith Sep 17, 2018, 2:42 PM

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is there a way to export from OB to blender?

bold flare Sep 17, 2018, 2:43 PM

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you can export fbx and obj afaik

halcyon wren Sep 17, 2018, 2:43 PM

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FBX works fine. That's how I do it.

silver zenith Sep 17, 2018, 2:53 PM

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I was trying to use arma samples for measures, and they are only p3d is there a way?

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sorry still new on this stuff

bold flare Sep 17, 2018, 2:56 PM

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Just told you how

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File->Export->FBX

stuck oyster Sep 17, 2018, 2:56 PM

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Blender FHQ toolbox imports and exports p3d

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@silver zenith

silver zenith Sep 17, 2018, 2:57 PM

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you can guess my level of noobness now

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thanks

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https://imgur.com/a/Kws2Ac3 have I done something wrong?

bold flare Sep 17, 2018, 3:13 PM

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no looks fine

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they are memory points

silver zenith Sep 17, 2018, 3:15 PM

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what are those

stuck oyster Sep 17, 2018, 3:16 PM

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those are proxies

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so yeah memory points for things like weapons, head model, items to show on the character

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the 90degree corner point is the center of it

silver zenith Sep 17, 2018, 3:19 PM

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oh cool

stuck oyster Sep 17, 2018, 3:21 PM

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vehicles also use proxies as points to load the passenger model and weapons

primal mortar Sep 17, 2018, 9:02 PM

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hello I need help with the creation of windows or these can break.

stuck oyster Sep 17, 2018, 9:08 PM

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Arma 3 sample house has window hitponits set up

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you can use that as an example

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it also has everything else glass related set up

atomic path Sep 18, 2018, 6:58 AM

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I'm having issues with porting trees from A1 to A3. Got a model from the other devteam, but the branches are all invisible in Bulldozer: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/367770688087523328/491306985799811072/unknown.png?width=507&height=633

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I've tried moving them on top, inverting and re-calculating normals

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If you move camera closer to the tree you can see some graphical glitches and branch textures bugging through: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/367770688087523328/491307146580066305/unknown.png?width=857&height=634

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I've also had similar issue, where a static object (or a part of it) would render for a second and disappear in bulldozer, also A1 models

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I've commented all model.cfg lines to avoid it interfeering

near scaffold Sep 18, 2018, 1:06 PM

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Not sure if I'm in the wrong spot for this (tools related): Buldozer won't show like, textures or proxys outside of the P drive. So if I have the Kamaz model from A2 and I just applied the A3 Zamak textures to it, the custom textures for the parts I modeled are there but the A3 ones are like white/don't load

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Example pic:

bold flare Sep 18, 2018, 1:08 PM

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textures or proxys outside of the P drive So what you are saying is, is that buldozer doesn't show textures or proxies that don't exist?

stuck oyster Sep 18, 2018, 1:08 PM

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buldozer works inside p: drive

near scaffold Sep 18, 2018, 1:08 PM

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Isn't there a way to path it so textures from a3 work? Or is this normal?

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Wow, having trouble with the pic

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/440913296166748161/480895489366163487/Capture.PNG?width=819&height=663

stuck oyster Sep 18, 2018, 1:09 PM

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you should have the arma data unpacked into P drive

near scaffold Sep 18, 2018, 1:10 PM

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Even if it's not loading the proxies in Buldozer so I can do things like position the characters inside of he cab without spinning up the game?

stuck oyster Sep 18, 2018, 1:10 PM

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aand no ok im not quite sure what you are doing

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rewind and start from the beginning?

near scaffold Sep 18, 2018, 1:11 PM

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So for the problem: the launcher is p:\csat\whatever\launcher.paa

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The cab is the a3\whatever\kab.paa

stuck oyster Sep 18, 2018, 1:11 PM

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P:\a3?

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the launcher is what youve modeled?

near scaffold Sep 18, 2018, 1:12 PM

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Just regular path. It works ingame no problem

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/440913296166748161/480903470304591872/107410_screenshots_20180819210052_1.jpg?width=1179&height=664

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And yep

bold flare Sep 18, 2018, 1:12 PM

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copy it to your p-drive

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your p-drive is supposed to have everything

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or maybe symlink it if you have it in your A3 folder

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or use DokanPbo if you don't wanna unpack everything

quasi prism Sep 18, 2018, 4:46 PM

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Hello, guys. How do I enable the display of points in the work area when the memory lod (or another one) is enabled? https://i.imgur.com/pgWHwDF.png

halcyon wren Sep 18, 2018, 6:13 PM

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Turn off DX mode

woeful viper Sep 18, 2018, 6:19 PM

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Does anyone have any technical suggestions for creation of rocks/boulders and textures for them? Best practices? Stuff to avoid?

stuck oyster Sep 18, 2018, 6:39 PM

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Ive used multimaterial. BI rocks almost all use it too.

I've done highpoly version first that I've used to create nice mask and normalmap for them (my big ass rocks look better when blended with baked full model normalmap but that sacrifices one mask color. Smaller rocks can do without that though)

woeful viper Sep 18, 2018, 7:02 PM

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i was hoping to get by with some high quality and high contrast normal maps (tiled) but only mid/low poly rock modelling

stuck oyster Sep 18, 2018, 7:03 PM

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sure that can work alright too

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mostly why I generated my mask is that it was the easiest wayto spread moss over the top surfaces and cracks and whatnot

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I made a very special smart material for it in Blenders Cycles

sacred grail Sep 18, 2018, 7:30 PM

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Rocks need multi material

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too much surface area

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even 4k textures would struggle

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and if you need 4k textures then you really should be using multimat

woeful viper Sep 18, 2018, 7:31 PM

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that was the plan anyway

quasi prism Sep 18, 2018, 7:49 PM

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Thanks

queen rapids Sep 18, 2018, 11:43 PM

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Does anyone know if there are any specific LODs or memory points needed when making the p3d for a new Magazine object?

polar fiber Sep 19, 2018, 12:02 AM

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they just need res, shadow and geometry

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can apply penetration materials to the geo lod rather than having a specific fire geo

queen rapids Sep 19, 2018, 12:05 AM

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res?

polar fiber Sep 19, 2018, 12:05 AM

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resolution

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i.e the visual lods

queen rapids Sep 19, 2018, 12:06 AM

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Oh.

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1.0

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2.0

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etc

polar fiber Sep 19, 2018, 12:06 AM

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yeah, those

queen rapids Sep 19, 2018, 12:07 AM

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Also how exactly would I tell the config to load the p3d for it? I currently have a cfgMagazine.hpp file that has a path to the p3d file.

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model = "pathway to file location"

polar fiber Sep 19, 2018, 12:07 AM

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yep

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the Y=0 plane of the model acts as the ground plane for where the mag model will appear when dropped

queen rapids Sep 19, 2018, 12:08 AM

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The Y=0 plane?

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I was reading that attachments and such appear at the 90 degree angle of the triangle in the proxy.

polar fiber Sep 19, 2018, 12:10 AM

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yeah, in Object Builder or any 3D modelling program, you have X, Y, Z grid coordinates

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Y=0 plane is where any point would have a height of 0

queen rapids Sep 19, 2018, 12:12 AM

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Ok.

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So what exactly does that mean for me? "Where the mag model will appear when dropped"

polar fiber Sep 19, 2018, 12:16 AM

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well magazine objects are typically only seen when dropped on the ground. So if you're looking at the left/right or front/back viewport in Object Builder or Blender, Maya or what ever, the horizontal line of the grid, acts as the ground would do ingame

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anything above that line, will be above ground, anything below will clip underground

queen rapids Sep 19, 2018, 12:17 AM

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Ooooooooh.

polar fiber Sep 19, 2018, 12:18 AM

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if you're on about a magazine proxy, it's a different matter

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but you said object, so i assume it's like one you pick up off the ground

queen rapids Sep 19, 2018, 12:19 AM

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Well I'm not entirely sure what I'm supposed to do exactly for what I have.

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So here's what I have.

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A newly made magazine I modeled in Blender.

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Along with a new rifle.

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I've already managed to get the rifle ingame, textured and working.

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Now I want to get it's magazine into the game, textured, and working as it should ingame.

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However I want to make the magazine a separate object from the rifle.

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So the rifle can take other magazines beside the one made for it.

polar fiber Sep 19, 2018, 12:21 AM

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okay then you're looking at magazine proxies

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which is new, and not many other people are using yet

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https://forums.bohemia.net/forums/topic/183435-rhs-escalation-afrf-and-usaf/?do=findComment&comment=3311386

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goes over how the proxy in the weapon is positioned and where the separate mag model is positioned relative to the grid

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for proxy mags you are using modelSpecial to path to the magazine model, where model remains only the mag as it appears when dropped on the ground

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so each mag is actually using two .p3ds

queen rapids Sep 19, 2018, 12:29 AM

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Man this looks like a lot.

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It even has bullet hiding. Nice.

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Alright, I'm going to give this a shot. Thanks for the help!

vapid nexus Sep 19, 2018, 2:21 AM

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holy hell is the mass in arma 3 like a magic number that they have invented or what

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at 100 a gun in ace weights 0.36 kg at 116 it weights 3.6 kgs

stuck oyster Sep 19, 2018, 6:40 AM

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I have an itch that the model mass has nothing to do with weight in game

bold flare Sep 19, 2018, 6:50 AM

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@vapid nexus mass doesn't exist

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And 100=0.36kg and 116=3.6kg is 100% wrong.

quick terrace Sep 19, 2018, 7:31 AM

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ace is the only mod that tries to convert a config entry that is not weight into KGs

bold flare Sep 19, 2018, 7:41 AM

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Granted it works rather well in most cases. But it's still not real.

quick terrace Sep 19, 2018, 7:43 AM

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i don't use ACE so i wouldn't know. I know about their weight system because people have been posting on RHS feedback as a RHS bug because some stuff is either too light or too heavy

strong plaza Sep 19, 2018, 9:18 AM

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anyone know how to fix this?

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https://imgur.com/a/OF5zm3d

Imgur

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textures look fine when it's overcast, but totally washed out and overly bright with sun

halcyon wren Sep 19, 2018, 9:19 AM

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Are you using _AS, or _ADS ?

strong plaza Sep 19, 2018, 9:19 AM

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no materials at all

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just diffuse