#arma3_model | ARMA | Page 105

lapis goblet Jan 2, 2018, 9:36 AM

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thank you

lapis goblet Jan 2, 2018, 9:57 AM

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is there a way to export a p3d back to blender, keeping dimensions intact?

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3DS seems to be working nicely but the dimensions are way off

lapis goblet Jan 2, 2018, 10:28 AM

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ok nvm, using arma 3 tools for blender you can actually import from p3d

stuck oyster Jan 2, 2018, 12:32 PM

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👆 👌

cinder pivot Jan 2, 2018, 4:50 PM

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can you make FFV seats out of any old seating position? or do they have to be FFV specific - like it seems the legs of the unit are stationary and the body moves

elder cloud Jan 2, 2018, 5:48 PM

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Hello guys

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I want to get into arma 3 modding

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And im new

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I want to ask about importing car model into arma3

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I work in 3ds max

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Should i assign bones in 3ds max?

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Or from arma 3 modding tool

outer condor Jan 2, 2018, 6:02 PM

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@tom#5817 the first question is always in here: for a LIFE mod or not? 😛

elder cloud Jan 2, 2018, 6:02 PM

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Any mod

bold flare Jan 2, 2018, 6:03 PM

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IMO the first question is "where did you get that car model from?"

elder cloud Jan 2, 2018, 6:03 PM

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I made it

bold flare Jan 2, 2018, 6:03 PM

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If you are new then starting with a car is by far the worst thing you can do

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do something simple first

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then slowly go further

outer condor Jan 2, 2018, 6:03 PM

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i think there is some old goods from RHS/PuFu about max-arma pipeline

bold flare Jan 2, 2018, 6:04 PM

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Do you think Cars are the most complicated objects to make? I guess only helicopter might be harder

outer condor Jan 2, 2018, 6:04 PM

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Modding Toolbox for 3ds Max
http://www.armaholic.com/page.php?id=6891

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i think its outdated by now but you could ask SA or PuFu

elder cloud Jan 2, 2018, 6:06 PM

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Someone told me i dont need to assign bones in 3ds max

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I can assign them in object builder

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Is that right ?

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Or no

bold flare Jan 2, 2018, 6:06 PM

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You can do everything in object builder

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But I don't know which would be easier

elder cloud Jan 2, 2018, 6:07 PM

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Oh

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So i can add bones from object builder

outer condor Jan 2, 2018, 6:08 PM

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maybe useful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9AvsMfh90Q
https://forums.bistudio.com/forums/topic/145965-animations-and-3ds-max/
https://forums.bistudio.com/forums/topic/174301-getting-a-3d-modelobject-into-arma-3-arma-3-modeling-tut-for-noobs/

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animations and 3ds max

I would like to import animations from 3ds max to arma. I saw this script: http://sandro-de-parma.narod.ru/OFP/ to export .rtm, but I don't know how to inst...

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Getting a 3D Model/Object into Arma 3 || Arma 3 Modeling Tut For NOOBS

This is a very basic tutorial showing how to get a basic model into Arma 3.
Required Programs
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Arma 3 Tools
If you don't know how to...

elder cloud Jan 2, 2018, 6:20 PM

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Thx

civic stratus Jan 2, 2018, 7:36 PM

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Is anyone familiar with the conditions in which a model won't display in the buldozer window?

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I have some p3d's that show and others that don't, and I'm kind of confused and frustrated

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I have to select the model to see it in the buldozer window

bold flare Jan 2, 2018, 7:44 PM

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Well if the normals are the wrong way the model will be invisible and not show

foggy finch Jan 2, 2018, 7:51 PM

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https://www.artstation.com/p/DwBDA

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wip^ 😃

civic stratus Jan 2, 2018, 7:52 PM

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@bold flare pressing f5 to recalculate should fix that, no?

bold flare Jan 2, 2018, 7:52 PM

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I don't think so. It shouldn't be able to magically fix that as you might intend to do it like that. And it can't read your mind+

foggy finch Jan 2, 2018, 7:55 PM

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@civic stratus your faces could be inverted.

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select them and flip them.

civic stratus Jan 2, 2018, 7:59 PM

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they look proper in the 3d preview

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viewing with direct3d

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i tried sharpening edges and fiddling with all the buldozer masking options

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i can't figure it out =/

foggy finch Jan 2, 2018, 8:03 PM

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sure they arent hidden?

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select the mesh and iirc in the edit menu you can hide/unhide stuff

brazen prairie Jan 2, 2018, 8:09 PM

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That worked for me might want to try @civic stratus
Step 1: Select the model(ctrl+a)
Step 2: Go in points on the top bar then select transform 2d then click mirior x
Step 3: Select your model(ctrl+a) then inverse (ctrl+w)
Step 4: Click Rotate on the toolbar XValue 0, YValue 180, ZValue 0 then hit preview then ok

polar fiber Jan 2, 2018, 9:03 PM

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looks like @foggy finch you doing the L121 muzzle brake as well?

foggy finch Jan 2, 2018, 9:04 PM

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the round one?

polar fiber Jan 2, 2018, 9:05 PM

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yeah, was the typical brake on UK ones

foggy finch Jan 2, 2018, 9:05 PM

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I was planning to yeah, was gonna do the eotech+mount and the long scope

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probs do the NV+mount for those too

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quite a few accessories for it

polar fiber Jan 2, 2018, 9:07 PM

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this eotech mount? https://i.imgur.com/tAgii1Y.jpg

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never really understood why those are so high

foggy finch Jan 2, 2018, 9:08 PM

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yeah

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because they use em for anti-smuggling firing from a helo

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that pic actually could be inside a helo going by how everything is strapped in

polar fiber Jan 2, 2018, 9:12 PM

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it's inside a ship ready to load it all up on the Lynx. You can see parts of the M3M on the right as well

foggy finch Jan 2, 2018, 9:13 PM

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nice 😄

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im probably gonna to the L115A3 aswell, since they are from the same family

polar fiber Jan 2, 2018, 9:16 PM

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rifle above comes with a suppressor too. https://i.imgur.com/K6nFIyJ.jpg Something I didn't know they had

foggy finch Jan 2, 2018, 9:16 PM

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yeah

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thats a beast of a can haha

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http://imageshack.com/a/img924/7100/JmzLpz.jpg

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there is this version also

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which looks integrally supressed

polar fiber Jan 2, 2018, 9:22 PM

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That was the original heavy barrel AFAIK

foggy finch Jan 2, 2018, 9:22 PM

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ahh, that'd explain it

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those are some good pics of the wear zones too, thanks for those dude

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they'll come in handly when i get it to lp

civic stratus Jan 2, 2018, 9:38 PM

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@brazen prairie did not resolve the issue

pseudo elbow Jan 2, 2018, 10:24 PM

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What can cause selection to shrink on rotation?

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Along with rotating by the axis it shrinks in size and I can't figure out why. Any ideas?

white jay Jan 2, 2018, 10:32 PM

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If you can figure it out will be nice to know, encountered similar issue with the arma2 crane rotation

pseudo elbow Jan 2, 2018, 10:35 PM

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I'm editing ACR Mi-17 model and its holographic display shrinks during rotation. If I copy it from Mi-8MTV3 from A2, same skeleton and selection names, it rotates just fine.

white jay Jan 2, 2018, 11:00 PM

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Try check if the selection has points defined for another selection / bone etc
Just revisited the a2 crane and got it to rotate corrrectly, that was its issue

pseudo elbow Jan 2, 2018, 11:18 PM

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Yeah seems to be other selection affecting this, gonna try to pin point it now

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Deleted everything but one selection and it stopped shrinking, thanks for advice

white jay Jan 3, 2018, 6:42 AM

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Hi, it's probably a pretty stupid question, but how can I know that in Blender I scale the objects for the right scale of ArmA?
So they are at the same size as I want them to be in the game.

tacit karma Jan 3, 2018, 7:42 AM

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Not sure if its the same than in max, but general scale to meter and unit scale to 1 unit = 1 cm

lapis goblet Jan 3, 2018, 8:51 AM

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just to be on the safe side set your units to meter (so that you can check sizes), and remember to apply scale and rotation when you export to p3d

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(ctrl-a)

white jay Jan 3, 2018, 10:16 AM

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Thanks

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Do you know how to perform a loop cut on both sides of a mesh?

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I'm trying to make a space for a window but it just cuts the front face and the back remains untouched.

bold flare Jan 3, 2018, 10:21 AM

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Just make a temp mesh and use a boolean operator?

white jay Jan 3, 2018, 10:25 AM

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Um ok I will try that

bold flare Jan 3, 2018, 10:25 AM

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That is what I always do when I need a basic hole

dusk frost Jan 3, 2018, 12:59 PM

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Hey guys, what can i do if i have a selection when i click check faces? I cant start buldozer with my model

stuck oyster Jan 3, 2018, 1:04 PM

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fix buldozer
explain more about your problem

dusk frost Jan 3, 2018, 1:07 PM

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Faces/Textures
In general it is also a good idea to test for any illegal/dead textures via

Structure | Check Faces

This is from the community wiki and i have done this and i get a selection if i click it. I think these things are broken

stuck oyster Jan 3, 2018, 1:08 PM

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well do the selected faces have valid textures?

dusk frost Jan 3, 2018, 1:08 PM

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And the selection is named like that: * Cannot generate ST coordinates

stuck oyster Jan 3, 2018, 1:08 PM

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I think that refers to bad uvmapping

dusk frost Jan 3, 2018, 1:08 PM

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I havent applied any textures yet

stuck oyster Jan 3, 2018, 1:13 PM

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example: start empty OB and create a single cube mesh into it.

run the check face and notice it does nothing

then open uv editor and delete some part of the autogenerated uv

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then run check face again

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so it should mean non uvmapped surfaces

dusk frost Jan 3, 2018, 1:37 PM

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okay, i will try that

oak lintel Jan 3, 2018, 6:35 PM

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gives a method to disable the collision damage effect?

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for 2 objects

outer condor Jan 3, 2018, 6:58 PM

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anyone remember C130J_static_EP1 from OA?
is it mergely different config (type house) or also the model adjusted in some form

stuck oyster Jan 3, 2018, 7:03 PM

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Arma2 Air_E pbo has C130 folder that contains both C130J.p3d and C130J_Static.p3d

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config however only has a simple config for the plane

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in that folder at least

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@oak lintel what effect do you mean exactly?

oak lintel Jan 3, 2018, 7:05 PM

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particel effect from collision > Vehicle vs. Trailer

stuck oyster Jan 3, 2018, 7:07 PM

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you might be able to set the colliding pieces to have different surface material but not 100 sure if that works

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you doing a geometry pin and hole trailer?

oak lintel Jan 3, 2018, 7:09 PM

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yeah thats my plan

stuck oyster Jan 3, 2018, 7:09 PM

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that has been tried before too but it also has issues

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it for example does not work with AI

oak lintel Jan 3, 2018, 7:10 PM

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i dont need it for AI

stuck oyster Jan 3, 2018, 7:10 PM

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when the truck and trailer go out of view the collision model get simplified and the trailer falls off

oak lintel Jan 3, 2018, 7:13 PM

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okay i try it but the particel damage effect is lame

stuck oyster Jan 3, 2018, 7:14 PM

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you can set different surface material for the geometry components for the pin and hole

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that could help

oak lintel Jan 3, 2018, 7:18 PM

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dont work shloRIP

stuck oyster Jan 3, 2018, 7:20 PM

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what kind of effect do you see exactly?

oak lintel Jan 3, 2018, 7:22 PM

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default effect. I think is broken metal

rough idol Jan 3, 2018, 7:32 PM

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try adding those components to driveOnComponents[] array

lime nebula Jan 3, 2018, 8:53 PM

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I don't think it's possible reyhard because his trailer is inside another model, i think

stuck oyster Jan 3, 2018, 9:11 PM

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2 separate models dragged by geometry

wraith tendon Jan 3, 2018, 9:15 PM

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Yeah, Pin&Hole "kinda" works, but there is still the UberHandbreak and the PhysX, that "stops working", when you are too far away

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IF that could be solved -> Truck&Trailer could be easily doable

foggy finch Jan 3, 2018, 10:55 PM

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http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img923/5222/IhUfxZ.png

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😃

rough idol Jan 4, 2018, 9:48 AM

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trailer is most likely defined as a vehicle too

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so both vehicles need to use driveOnComponent for contact points

bold flare Jan 4, 2018, 9:57 AM

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@foggy finch Looks kinda similear to my https://dedmen.de/sharex/Substance Painter 2_2017-12-12_20-45-41.png
Wow that's a really bad screenshot...

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That's a Leupold VX-6HD My first try at making a scope

foggy finch Jan 4, 2018, 10:00 AM

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yeah different scope, mine is a Schmidt & Bender 3-12x50 PM II

bold flare Jan 4, 2018, 10:04 AM

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How many segments would you use for your tube cylinder when you import it into the Game?
I wanted to be on the save side for my scope and went too far and ruined it :x I probably used <100 segments

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I guess the answer is probably it doesn't really matter as only the first-person model would be so high poly. And as you only have on of them on the scene.

tacit karma Jan 4, 2018, 10:08 AM

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64 if its quite big

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otherwise 48 is usually enough for scopes

bold flare Jan 4, 2018, 10:29 AM

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I was talking about the number of segments on the cylinder? Are you sure? 48 sounds really low. I thought people would use more.

twin urchin Jan 4, 2018, 10:33 AM

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imho you can make 48 for 1st lod and more for pilot view

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because thats only what one guy can see

oak lintel Jan 4, 2018, 11:40 AM

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truck&trailer is not the best options with ropes ^^....

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@rough idol: what you mean with "driveOnComponents[] array" and "driveOnComponents"

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?

rough idol Jan 4, 2018, 11:41 AM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/A3_CfgVehicles_Plane_class_config_reference#driveOnComponent

A3 CfgVehicles Plane class config reference

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@oak lintel

oak lintel Jan 4, 2018, 11:42 AM

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merci 😉

crystal talon Jan 4, 2018, 1:04 PM

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Hello everyone, At this moment i have created a flashlight and a weapon. However my flashlight has a gap. How can i attach it directly to the weapon?

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Is that a memory point or?

bold flare Jan 4, 2018, 1:05 PM

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Afaik the attachment point is 0,0,0 in your flashlight model

crystal talon Jan 4, 2018, 1:08 PM

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https://ibb.co/cF6B9w This is the result i have atm on 0,0,0.

bold flare Jan 4, 2018, 1:10 PM

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If it's the same on other weapons then just artifically move it further down

crystal talon Jan 4, 2018, 1:15 PM

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The gap is away now but https://ibb.co/df3PUw the light itself is above it haha

bold flare Jan 4, 2018, 1:18 PM

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Well that's mempoint I guess 😄

crystal talon Jan 4, 2018, 1:19 PM

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Yeah i think so, i will look into it thx

glossy plank Jan 4, 2018, 2:45 PM

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Hi, do someone has fix the probleme since the last time ? https://feedback.bistudio.com/T127168

bold flare Jan 4, 2018, 2:46 PM

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nope

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atleast didn't read about it here

glossy plank Jan 4, 2018, 2:46 PM

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:/

polar fiber Jan 4, 2018, 2:49 PM

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@bold flare I only ever use 32-48 sides on the pilot view for my scopes

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and try to reduce it after the eyepiece

bold flare Jan 4, 2018, 2:51 PM

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But that's visible right? I want a smooth-ish scope even if only in pilot.
Like obviously not 200 segments or such. Does anything speak against it besides performance? I don't intend to use multimaterial so it should still be quite cheap to draw I'd think

polar fiber Jan 4, 2018, 2:55 PM

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In fact I did the same scope as Uro is doing. On this, only the rubber eyepiece and the very end piece of the scope tube is 48 sided. In the middle everything is necked down to 24 sides https://i.imgur.com/mcBLzf3.png

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US version I did for RHS, showing wireframe https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/003/480/649/large/shaun-young-m85414.jpg?1474162826 textures are by Sabre and pic is from his artstation account

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can see there how the polycount is reduced on cylinder sides that don't form the silhouette

bold flare Jan 4, 2018, 2:57 PM

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As I see that now I really wonder how much segments I used that it looks so terrible.
Your first picture looks perfectly smooth

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Oh! Sharp edges. That probably has something to do with that right?

past edge Jan 4, 2018, 3:03 PM

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yes, you'll want the cylinder to be smooth 😛

polar fiber Jan 4, 2018, 3:04 PM

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well yeah, you only really want sharp edges where there's a large change in the normal angle that might cause weird lighting https://i.imgur.com/4GkosAg.png

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and mine has a normal map baked from high poly to smooth over some of the corners

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but that wouldn't really affect the roundness of the model's silhouette

bold flare Jan 4, 2018, 3:07 PM

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How did you make that normalmap? What tool can do that?
And sharp edges was then definetly my mistake why it looked soooo horrible..

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That's what I was intending to do. Make it low poly and then use a normal map to make it look good enough. But I kinda have no Idea how to do that 😄

past edge Jan 4, 2018, 3:08 PM

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personally I bake my normal maps in Substance Painter using the "match by name" feature, it's useful for those juicy details such as extra rounded bits: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293157245682843650/382971297845477377/unknown.png

polar fiber Jan 4, 2018, 3:09 PM

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I baked mine in xNormal

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was quite a few years ago now though

bold flare Jan 4, 2018, 3:09 PM

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Soo much new stuff to try out now :3

polar fiber Jan 4, 2018, 3:12 PM

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premise of it is using subdivisions and mesh smooth in your modelling program to round off the corners to produce a HP model, then baking those edges to the low poly game model https://cdn.tutsplus.com/cg/uploads/legacy/000_QuickTips/024_Understanding_Support_Edges/Preview.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/originals/91/79/b6/9179b6f6c1ae14ecc5d0b979c38042d3.jpg

foggy finch Jan 4, 2018, 3:19 PM

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im gonna need a bigger scope @polar fiber :p

polar fiber Jan 4, 2018, 3:22 PM

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I did a bigger one too (left) 😆 : http://da12thmonkey.rkslstudios.info/A3/AttachmentsPack/Promo/V2/V2_promo.png

foggy finch Jan 4, 2018, 3:22 PM

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oh nice, i was looking at doing those too haha

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but first im gonna do the nv bracket and scope for this gun

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its more important 😃

polar fiber Jan 4, 2018, 3:23 PM

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I really should update that mod. I've had an Eotech 552 finished for it forever, but wanted to finish the 6x ACOG I did as well. I only finished the US version of the ACOG for RHS so far

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that was like 18 months ago

cobalt panther Jan 4, 2018, 3:28 PM

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Those are baby scopes, make this http://zenphotos.net/zenphotos/file/Online/SVD/1988Izzy/1PN58_1988IzzyAKS74_Front.JPG

twin urchin Jan 4, 2018, 3:30 PM

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soviet NV scope , i wonder if RHS has that

cobalt panther Jan 4, 2018, 3:30 PM

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I don't think I've seen it, saw it crop up on Tarkov the other day, I was like.... wooooooot the fuck is that?

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looks like a beast

polar fiber Jan 4, 2018, 3:31 PM

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We don't. The guy who made our AK-74M in the past, made this one for EFT https://www.artstation.com/artwork/lvzBo

cobalt panther Jan 4, 2018, 3:31 PM

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Yea there you go

twin urchin Jan 4, 2018, 3:31 PM

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back in the day NV scopes were huge mainly in 60-80s

cobalt panther Jan 4, 2018, 3:31 PM

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Are they not used so much these days?

twin urchin Jan 4, 2018, 3:32 PM

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these bigs ones , nah - there much better options now

cobalt panther Jan 4, 2018, 3:32 PM

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ah yea, I just meant NV in general

twin urchin Jan 4, 2018, 3:33 PM

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NV scopes are still used , even mainly NV adpaters in front of the main sniper scope

woeful viper Jan 4, 2018, 4:36 PM

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what? impractical? dont be ridiculous... this is as compact as anybody needs it... https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3d/M3_Sniperscope.jpg

crystal talon Jan 4, 2018, 5:50 PM

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To position a flashlight attachment. Do i need to change the position in the .p3d or a memory point . If i need to use a point could somebody help me out with it 😃

stuck oyster Jan 4, 2018, 5:52 PM

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you need to position the attachment proxy

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in the weapon p3d

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the 90degree corner is the 0,0,0 of your attachment p3d

polar fiber Jan 4, 2018, 5:57 PM

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most BIS flashlight attachments aren't aligned with 0,0,0 though

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they're offset

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it's a pain in the arse to position them

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best to position your proxy in the weapon so that the BIS attachments fit, then move the attachment model in its .p3d to replicate that position

stuck oyster Jan 4, 2018, 5:58 PM

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well he had his own attachment

polar fiber Jan 4, 2018, 5:59 PM

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yeah, but I guess he'd like it to be compatible with Joint Rails or something?

stuck oyster Jan 4, 2018, 5:59 PM

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true @da12thMonkey#2096 good point

crystal talon Jan 4, 2018, 6:00 PM

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Mhhm i see, thank you very much. I opened the drawing (other dev makes the .p3d models) and it looks like the proxy for flashlight/laser is too high

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So when lowered it will work as intended

polar fiber Jan 4, 2018, 6:01 PM

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https://www.dropbox.com/s/70ylnhrfcpzydk2/Rail_Align.p3d?dl=0 for educational purposes, this is where the rail slot shape is on BIS' DBAL laser pointer

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so if you try to line the attachment point on your model up with that, it should fit most weapons

crystal talon Jan 4, 2018, 6:03 PM

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thx

warm trench Jan 4, 2018, 8:04 PM

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I've been working on a weapon mod that's largely finished. However, one thing that I'm stuck with is that I've got all the animations working for the weapon for the user of the weapon but in multiplayer, only some of the animations show for other players looking at the weapon. The ones that specifically don't work use "zeroing.1" and "reloadmagazine2" as the sources.
Is there something obvious / a nice trick that I'm missing here?

stuck oyster Jan 4, 2018, 8:06 PM

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it is possible that those dont work in mp

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are they fast animations?

warm trench Jan 4, 2018, 8:10 PM

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Not particularly. It's basically re-load and sight animations for a UGL. I've largely copied the Vanilla SPAR model.cfg which uses "reloadmagazine2" and seems to work in multiplayer. (Thanks for the quick reply, by the way!)

stuck oyster Jan 4, 2018, 8:11 PM

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everyone in the server have the addon?

warm trench Jan 4, 2018, 8:13 PM

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Yep. So they all see the rifle and you see the hand animation for the UGL reload. Just not the UGL components move itself. All the other animations (like bolt movement, lock open, main mag reload etc.) all are visible in MP.

twin urchin Jan 4, 2018, 8:13 PM

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maybe those doesnt sync in MP , dunno test that with vanilla GL

polar fiber Jan 4, 2018, 8:13 PM

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and they all have the exact same version of the mod?

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no chance of a skeleton name conflict with another addon?

twin urchin Jan 4, 2018, 8:14 PM

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because i know arma beraly synced weapon anims via MP

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but that fixed for some time ago

warm trench Jan 4, 2018, 8:16 PM

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All have the same version and yes, you do see those animations with the vanilla SPAR in multiplayer. Good shout on the skeleton bone names - I'll check I've called them something unlikely to be used elsewhere. But just going for a PC re-boot now. Big ARMA shunt that seems to have wiped out most of my PC!

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Hmmmm. pretty obscure bone names in the skeleton so unlikely (but not impossible) that's the issue.

stuck oyster Jan 4, 2018, 8:20 PM

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how about the skeleton class itself?

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is it unique

warm trench Jan 4, 2018, 8:20 PM

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yep - should be. But I could make it even more obscure just to make sure!

stuck oyster Jan 4, 2018, 8:20 PM

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if you got your tag on it should be enough

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do you pack with pboproject?

warm trench Jan 4, 2018, 8:22 PM

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Actually, it does not have my tag on it but it's a bit of a long winded name so I was thinking about just tagging it to be sure. This mod originally started before I reallised the importance of that and I've obviously not 'corrected' all areas yet! Yes - pboproject for packing

stuck oyster Jan 4, 2018, 8:23 PM

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do you have custom animations for the character in the same folder?

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or do you use just the vanilla reload animations?

warm trench Jan 4, 2018, 8:25 PM

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Not 100% sure I know what you mean. No custom hand animations - just use the Vanilla ones. If that's what you meant but sorry if I've answered the wrong question!

stuck oyster Jan 4, 2018, 8:27 PM

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no thats what I wanted to know

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do the character animations play?

warm trench Jan 4, 2018, 8:29 PM

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yes

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And it's specifically only the anims with those sources. All other are seen in MP

stuck oyster Jan 4, 2018, 8:33 PM

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Could be some sort of MP incompatibility then

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very unfortunate

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any other addons active?

warm trench Jan 4, 2018, 8:34 PM

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Many!

stuck oyster Jan 4, 2018, 8:34 PM

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could be a weird conflict

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should debug with only the weapon in use

warm trench Jan 4, 2018, 8:37 PM

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Yeah - understood. Might try that after we finish training this evening. At least it sounds like I've missed anything silly / simple!

stuck oyster Jan 4, 2018, 8:39 PM

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yeah let us know how it goes without any other mods

warm trench Jan 4, 2018, 8:39 PM

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Will do. Many thanks for the quick replies!

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Interesting - we've just done a test and it does seem to work this evening but only when re-loading if there's already a round in the camber. Most odd! But I might have an idea what's causing this....

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I think I might have another animation that I'm not 100% sure is working once the UGL is fired. (I'm trying to hide the round itself in the UGL - but the barrel is dark so hard to tell whether this is working or not!)

stuck oyster Jan 4, 2018, 8:50 PM

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does it then matter 😄

warm trench Jan 4, 2018, 8:51 PM

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It's much harder to test things in MP. You need a willing volunteer!

stuck oyster Jan 4, 2018, 8:51 PM

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that indeed

warm trench Jan 4, 2018, 8:52 PM

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Not sure I can explain why the animation on "zeroing.1" does not work though but will try to get a volunteer later this evening for more testing.

stuck oyster Jan 4, 2018, 8:58 PM

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and it does work with vanilla weapons

warm trench Jan 4, 2018, 9:01 PM

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Not checked the zeroing.1 with vanilla - just the reloadmagazine2. Will check that too when I get a chance & volunteers

stuck oyster Jan 4, 2018, 9:02 PM

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zeroing especially may not transfer over mp

warm trench Jan 4, 2018, 9:06 PM

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Yes - very believeable given that with rifles, those changes would be tiny

stuck oyster Jan 4, 2018, 9:07 PM

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that indeed

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are you using it for something you could actually see?

warm trench Jan 4, 2018, 9:16 PM

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For the UGL, yes. But I'm not that upset if that doesn't work. It was more the reload that bugged me!

oak lintel Jan 5, 2018, 1:58 PM

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because of trailer:
When i drive forward with my trailer, my trailers wheels turn. But over 10mph, my wheels stop.
When i drive backward, my wheels turn correctly. someone knows how is the problem?

stuck oyster Jan 5, 2018, 1:59 PM

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The engine may have hardcoded handbrake that goes on

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I think it was mentioned a while ago

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I think it only works if theres no one in the vehicle

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like how cars dont roll down hill if youre not in them

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but you could perhaps make a fake AI dirver that "keeps the engine running"

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it would be invisible and would not actually drive the vehicle

oak lintel Jan 5, 2018, 2:09 PM

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no, then my first trailer went that too. only I forgot where the problem was

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differentialType="front_open"; he makes the wheels open

median bough Jan 5, 2018, 2:41 PM

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@wraith tendon might know what it is. Iirc he has some experience with trailers

wraith tendon Jan 5, 2018, 2:41 PM

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I like 🍌

median bough Jan 5, 2018, 2:42 PM

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What are you then? Dschanky Kong?

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😂

wraith tendon Jan 5, 2018, 2:42 PM

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sherbFellow

tulip beacon Jan 5, 2018, 2:57 PM

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guys, what can cause tank track texture animation to not work?

halcyon wren Jan 5, 2018, 2:58 PM

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Missing .rvmat

tulip beacon Jan 5, 2018, 2:58 PM

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what rvmat does it require?

halcyon wren Jan 5, 2018, 2:58 PM

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just any really.

tulip beacon Jan 5, 2018, 2:59 PM

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hmm

halcyon wren Jan 5, 2018, 3:00 PM

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Not sure if it was fixed now for tanks DLC, but it used to be (probably still is) one of the silly undocumented engine-quirks that tank tracks only animate if they also have a valid .rvmat assinged.

tulip beacon Jan 5, 2018, 3:01 PM

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well, that was really frustrating

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thanks, gonna check now

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BIS!!!.jpg

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it works

wraith tendon Jan 5, 2018, 3:06 PM

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😂 rly?

halcyon wren Jan 5, 2018, 3:28 PM

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Hah. So its still a bug. 😄

stuck oyster Jan 5, 2018, 4:04 PM

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its a feature

oak lintel Jan 5, 2018, 4:04 PM

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thx. wheels work.

crystal talon Jan 5, 2018, 4:05 PM

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Arma 3 custom flashlight and custom weapon and proxy (light source) keeps disapearing when standing still. If i start walking it pop ups again.

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Tried to move it around, but that doenst help really, it only shows up in certain poses

stuck oyster Jan 5, 2018, 4:10 PM

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got pics/video?

crystal talon Jan 5, 2018, 4:12 PM

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I will make a photo

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photo's

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https://ibb.co/nPopgb
https://ibb.co/juvD7G

stuck oyster Jan 5, 2018, 4:24 PM

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perhaps the light point is inside the flashlight and the model gets in the way

crystal talon Jan 5, 2018, 4:25 PM

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That's what i thought but placing the flashlight on like 40 cm to the left doesnt fix it

stuck oyster Jan 5, 2018, 4:26 PM

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not the flashlight

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the memorypoint

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or yeah that would likely fix it

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unless it goes iside the weapon

crystal talon Jan 5, 2018, 4:31 PM

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I moved the point and still the same occurence

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Very weird

stuck oyster Jan 5, 2018, 4:32 PM

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I assume it does not happen with vanilla flashlights

crystal talon Jan 5, 2018, 4:32 PM

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Lemme check that

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Oke vanilla has no problem, i will check the p3d again. I suppose it's a LOD or something

stuck oyster Jan 5, 2018, 4:40 PM

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does the gun and flashlight have many lods

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resolution lods

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0.000 1.000 and so on

crystal talon Jan 5, 2018, 4:43 PM

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0.000 to 5.000 and a view point

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Every lod has a side proxy foe the flash/laser attachment

stuck oyster Jan 5, 2018, 4:44 PM

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how about the flashlight?

crystal talon Jan 5, 2018, 4:44 PM

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Same

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Except forbthe proxy ofcourse

crystal talon Jan 5, 2018, 6:02 PM

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It's working 😉

stuck oyster Jan 5, 2018, 6:03 PM

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excellent

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how did you fix it?

crystal talon Jan 5, 2018, 6:10 PM

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I delete all the proxy's for flash/laser

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Then added them again and it magically worked, however i already did that like 4 times.

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Well you gotta love arma ahha

woeful viper Jan 5, 2018, 6:49 PM

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@stuck oyster model blocking light... pft what are you dreaming man? Arma has neutrino lighting technology - it goes through pratically everythin unhindered

stuck oyster Jan 5, 2018, 7:28 PM

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not the light but the flare

crystal talon Jan 5, 2018, 8:22 PM

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Well don't know how you meant that @X3KJ, but thank you for your help @stuck oyster

stuck oyster Jan 5, 2018, 8:23 PM

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youre welcome

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you did all the heavy lifting by yourself

sonic valve Jan 5, 2018, 10:52 PM

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Theory question, could you make a model that is just fire geo?

stuck oyster Jan 5, 2018, 10:54 PM

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well yes

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what would you want it to do

sonic valve Jan 5, 2018, 10:55 PM

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Couple applications,

You could use it to overlap objects that normally not dustructable. Allowing you to script some semi-realism way of caculating destruction to said objects.

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You could implement a Trophy style system, attaching it to tanks.

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Assuming both would be possible.

stuck oyster Jan 5, 2018, 10:57 PM

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Im not 100 sure how firegeo behaves without valid geometrylod but sure you should try

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without geometry lod you can just walk through objects

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but they do remain destructible so I would guess with firegeo and hitpoints you might as well succeed

pseudo elbow Jan 6, 2018, 9:38 AM

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How far away weapon cursor is drawn from the camera?

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Trying to match holographic sight with ui cursor

twin urchin Jan 6, 2018, 9:43 AM

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for what reason?

pseudo elbow Jan 6, 2018, 9:48 AM

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To make holographic sight at least as accurate as cursor

twin urchin Jan 6, 2018, 9:58 AM

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if your eye position is correct with reticle of your holo , then weapon cursor will be accurate too

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also i think the weapon crosshair never been 1:1 accurate

crystal talon Jan 6, 2018, 6:54 PM

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The flashlight works flawless but the laser looks like this https://ibb.co/idWBUw

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I have already moved it to see if it was stuck but that doenst fix it

crystal talon Jan 6, 2018, 7:39 PM

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Someon know something, i have placed in the memory lod the mem points

stuck oyster Jan 6, 2018, 7:44 PM

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whats the problem exactly? the pic does not tell much as there is no comparison to working one

crystal talon Jan 6, 2018, 7:44 PM

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The default laser emits a laser beam, and this one which is just a standard configuration is a ir dot

stuck oyster Jan 6, 2018, 7:45 PM

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have you configured it to show the beam

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If I recall right its a config value

crystal talon Jan 6, 2018, 7:49 PM

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Oke, i have checked other configs didnt see anything specific

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I will look into some more

stuck oyster Jan 6, 2018, 7:50 PM

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you could try inheriting straight from one of the vanilla ones

crystal talon Jan 6, 2018, 7:56 PM

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That's what i did indeed, i noticed that other laser attachments have the same config

stuck oyster Jan 6, 2018, 8:06 PM

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do you have the laser memorypoints there too?

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in memory lod

crystal talon Jan 6, 2018, 8:07 PM

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irLaserPos = "laser pos";
irLaserEnd = "laser dir";

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If you mean those yes

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Or do you mean laser pos and laser dir on the p3d for the laser itself or the weapon?

stuck oyster Jan 6, 2018, 8:09 PM

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those for the attachment

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the weapon should not need any if it does not have one built in

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do you have space in the names?

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between laser and pos

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those are from your config?

crystal talon Jan 6, 2018, 8:10 PM

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yes

stuck oyster Jan 6, 2018, 8:11 PM

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It may be the game does not like spaces in names

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commonly that has been bad

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so either laserpos or laser_pos

crystal talon Jan 6, 2018, 8:12 PM

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I will remove the spaces indeed

crystal talon Jan 6, 2018, 8:29 PM

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Oke well the spaces seems to be a part of the problem, i find it odd because the default configs uses spaces xD

foggy finch Jan 6, 2018, 8:42 PM

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WIP - been working on the secondary mount and nv scope: http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img924/3896/irGTRi.png

woeful viper Jan 6, 2018, 8:46 PM

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may just be perspective, but it looks as if there was a heigth offset between both

foggy finch Jan 6, 2018, 8:54 PM

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the nv scope sits that high on my reference photo

crystal talon Jan 6, 2018, 8:58 PM

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Oke got the laser working perfect, how can i outline it with the crosshair?

stuck oyster Jan 6, 2018, 9:01 PM

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what do you mean

crystal talon Jan 6, 2018, 9:02 PM

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When i enable the crosshair it works fine, but it slowly goes too much to the right

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lemme make a photo

stuck oyster Jan 6, 2018, 9:03 PM

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the laser will always be in offset because its in different position than the barrel where the crosshair is calculated from

crystal talon Jan 6, 2018, 9:06 PM

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Mhhm yes indeed, so stupid off me -_-

lime nebula Jan 7, 2018, 2:22 PM

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It's possible to fake a bouding box ? I have a models without res lods, and i want being able to place it in eden

cinder pivot Jan 7, 2018, 2:27 PM

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Could try making 8 verts for corners with no faces

stuck oyster Jan 7, 2018, 3:05 PM

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@lime nebula out of curiosity why do you have objects without anything visual in them?

lime nebula Jan 7, 2018, 3:06 PM

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Memory point object for some sounds

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I want to place env sounds, at certain point of my map. So creating an object with only a memory point

stuck oyster Jan 7, 2018, 3:07 PM

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I see

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well you could give them visual lod for placing them

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and then just remove it before release

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add a box in 0.00

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and delete after

lime nebula Jan 7, 2018, 3:07 PM

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Yeah, i will try andrew things first and after yeah that was my idea

vernal lynx Jan 7, 2018, 8:06 PM

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https://www.artstation.com/artwork/a5eN9

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finished my most ambitious 3D project ever ☠ I ded

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/385885667751755796/399603145384394752/107410_20180107173354_1.png

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2nd link is ingame result

woeful viper Jan 7, 2018, 8:31 PM

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i understand the pain, i hate doing organic stuff as well. Looks good though

tall zephyr Jan 7, 2018, 9:56 PM

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hi

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can i ask a question?

wraith tendon Jan 7, 2018, 9:56 PM

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no

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(why do ppl alwys ask to ask a question?)

tall zephyr Jan 7, 2018, 9:57 PM

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idk XD

wraith tendon Jan 7, 2018, 9:57 PM

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Just simply ask the Question.

tall zephyr Jan 7, 2018, 9:57 PM

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where can i find a good tutorial of how to make a building on blender and export to arma 3

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i was searching for days, but i didnt find nothing recent

woeful viper Jan 7, 2018, 9:58 PM

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wat

wraith tendon Jan 7, 2018, 9:58 PM

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Make the building first, then search for "Arma 3 import blender" ?!

woeful viper Jan 7, 2018, 10:00 PM

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how did you search? googled "i want to make building with red roof and three doors, round windows in blender and import in arma" ?

tall zephyr Jan 7, 2018, 10:00 PM

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make buildings for arma 3

bold flare Jan 7, 2018, 10:02 PM

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Look for how to make buildings first. Then look how to import buildings into Arma

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And you don't need recent stuff for the importing stuff. 5 year old tutorials are just fine

tall zephyr Jan 7, 2018, 10:03 PM

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@bold flare thanks

bold flare Jan 7, 2018, 10:04 PM

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5 seconds googling I found https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnGPwkRAdPw But I don't know if that's any good

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Even using Blender

woeful viper Jan 7, 2018, 10:07 PM

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but it doesnt have a red roof. Wrong tutorial.

wraith tendon Jan 7, 2018, 10:08 PM

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😂

bold flare Jan 7, 2018, 10:08 PM

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A wed woof? Awoooo

wraith tendon Jan 7, 2018, 10:08 PM

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sherbFail

cinder pivot Jan 7, 2018, 10:09 PM

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thats not a good tutorial

ebon abyss Jan 8, 2018, 3:26 AM

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for helicopter to land on helipad, does the p3d need any specific properties or is it config.cpp related?

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I have what I believe is arma(1) helipad sample model, it only has geometry class "vehicle" and in arma3 bis configs I could not see anything helos landing specific, and my helo wont land on this object. if I switch the object to land_helipadempty_f then helo lands nicely.

rough idol Jan 8, 2018, 8:51 AM

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are you inheriting from HeliH?

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@ebon abyss

ebon abyss Jan 8, 2018, 8:52 AM

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nope. I looked the bis config and it was HeliH: NonStrategic odd one, didnt find any other reference to "HeliH". hum.

rough idol Jan 8, 2018, 8:54 AM

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seems like that's the culprit then. I guess object need to inherit from HeliH in order to be recognized as helipad

ebon abyss Jan 8, 2018, 8:55 AM

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alright I'll look into it again, thanks, will let you know how it turns out.

analog sand Jan 8, 2018, 12:25 PM

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Hey Guys, since the last A3 Update we have a problem with our Axe and Pickaxe, does someone have a solution for this problem? http://91.121.77.68/nextcloud/index.php/s/WCdhXzhxyeKmaTf
13:04:07 Warning Message: Embedded skeleton Weapon in 'a3\weapons_f\data\zaslehsdl_proxy.p3d' has different [ bones count ] in different p3d files. Skeleton/model 'dg_a3\axt\model\standart\dg_axt_holz_1_f.p3d' will probably not work correctly. So it is our first Secondary Weapon Model, i am only a scripting dude, so if someone can help me it will be nice

analog sand Jan 8, 2018, 1:50 PM

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okay i fixed it

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^^

ebon abyss Jan 8, 2018, 11:01 PM

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HorribleGoat: do you have experience doing shadows, shadowvolume stuff?

stuck oyster Jan 8, 2018, 11:02 PM

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some

ebon abyss Jan 8, 2018, 11:04 PM

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I have my old info back from arma(1) era. so I went and googled "arma 3 shadows modeling tutorial" and was all smiley faces seeing our own tutorial page as the first hit, until I realized... it is pretty much the only viable hit. how come there are no shadow tutorials for arma3, or is it really just the same as in it has ever been?

stuck oyster Jan 8, 2018, 11:07 PM

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pretty much the same ye

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very simple version of the model

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and the shadow mesh should be kept inside the res lod or it will show through

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there are new methods of shadowing tho

ebon abyss Jan 8, 2018, 11:08 PM

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annoying self shadowing

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oh? do tell do tell 😃

stuck oyster Jan 8, 2018, 11:08 PM

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like projecting straight from the reslod

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no shadowlod needed

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I think that makes the bit smooth edged shadows

ebon abyss Jan 8, 2018, 11:09 PM

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hmm new, isnt that just leaving out LODNoShadow = 1 heh?

stuck oyster Jan 8, 2018, 11:12 PM

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no normaly reslod would produce pretty broken shadow usually

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+I think its pretty performance heavy

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the other method afaik does it lighter

ebon abyss Jan 8, 2018, 11:14 PM

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shadowvolumes are more focused yeah, I would need to re-read our own tutorial for the specs. I checked some arma3 sample models and noticed that I think those specs have doubled, didnt write anything down so cant remember.

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https://pmc.editing.wiki/doku.php?id=arma:modeling:shadows

stuck oyster Jan 8, 2018, 11:16 PM

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generally speaking processing power has increased which allows for more complex models

ebon abyss Jan 8, 2018, 11:16 PM

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our tutorial page says max poly count is about 1000, but not sure I think I saw the arma3 sample models having like 2000, do you know if this or "standard" of doing this has changed?

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if there are any changes, real changes for arma3 use, I definitely would like to write updated page. I think many people wont even look links for ofp/arma when they are googling arma3, at least I wont heh, well ok I do look what the initial link description is but yeah.

woeful viper Jan 8, 2018, 11:56 PM

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/LOD#ShadowVolume

ebon abyss Jan 8, 2018, 11:58 PM

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yup same old info.

bleak tangle Jan 9, 2018, 12:34 AM

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According to Eliteness, some of the rifles added in Apex have 3k+ verts in their most detailed shadow LODs, but it drops into the low hundreds for their second shadow LOD

ebon abyss Jan 9, 2018, 12:34 AM

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oh, quite increase then.

bleak tangle Jan 9, 2018, 12:36 AM

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there are new methods of shadowing tho
He is probably referring to the named property in the geometry LOD sbsource=visualex. While there has been no official documentation on what it does, my best guess is that it's what BI was referring to in this sitrep https://dev.arma3.com/post/sitrep-00138

They will be able to use a technology that generates shadows of objects on-the-fly based on the shape of a resolution LOD.

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From the dump I just did, there are 717 models in A3 now using visualex, and here is a list of them https://pastebin.com/TrrnP5Ht

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The majority of objects on that list are ones from Apex. However, BI went back and added that named property to some of the vanilla A3 models, where I'm guessing they had shadow issues but couldn't be bothered/have the time to fix the shadow LOD manually

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Hopefully we can convince @slate epoch or @rough idol to get some documentation on visualex, or at least some more information on when it should be used

ebon abyss Jan 9, 2018, 12:44 AM

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yeah would be great.

bleak tangle Jan 9, 2018, 12:44 AM

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There were a few buildings in CUP that had shadow issues, so I took the lazy approach and used visualex and here are the before and after results https://imgur.com/a/4vw1X

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Only problem though is that visualex creates "banding" in some situations
On a building in Takistan: https://i.gyazo.com/241ea023801998c84221b3bbd9287301.jpg
On a A3 building: https://i.gyazo.com/9009a21ad6fe10b52c414251078358a7.jpg

pseudo elbow Jan 9, 2018, 3:18 AM

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What defines center for the 3rd person camera in the model?

wraith tendon Jan 9, 2018, 3:35 AM

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wasn't it a cfg entry?

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🤔

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(at least for vehicles)

pseudo elbow Jan 9, 2018, 3:37 AM

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Or config entry, thought maybe it had to do with bounding box or something

wraith tendon Jan 9, 2018, 3:44 AM

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🤔 hmmm

bleak tangle Jan 9, 2018, 3:54 AM

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Is it extCameraPosition?
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Config_Properties_Megalist#extCameraPosition.5B.5D
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/CfgVehicles_Config_Reference#extCameraPosition.5B.5D

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On second thought, that's probably not helpful, since that'll likely be the camera's position relative to the center of the model

wraith tendon Jan 9, 2018, 4:02 AM

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Yeah, that was the one i had in mind, but couldn't remember the name

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@bleak tangle
Yeah, from ModelCenter.
@pseudo elbow Was it that, what you were searching for?

pseudo elbow Jan 9, 2018, 4:43 AM

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https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/915787290127895688/05CDF8E360C6CF5A71E825330E350C2B592464E1/

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red spheres are getPosATL and modelToWorld [0,0,0] positions while camera is clearly at very front of the vehicle

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Its not origin in O2 either

cinder pivot Jan 9, 2018, 4:48 AM

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Are you wanting to change/move it?

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the camera position

pseudo elbow Jan 9, 2018, 4:50 AM

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Yes

cinder pivot Jan 9, 2018, 4:54 AM

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If you have files for a2 samples/aplsa files I think the white skoda had the configs in for a different camera position, if not I can check what they are in a bit when I get home for you @pseudo elbow

pseudo elbow Jan 9, 2018, 4:56 AM

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Config as in game config or model config?

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Looking at it right now

cinder pivot Jan 9, 2018, 4:57 AM

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Ingame iirc

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Part of base class

pseudo elbow Jan 9, 2018, 4:57 AM

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memoryPointCameraTarget = "zamerny";

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found it

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oh wait, maybe not

cinder pivot Jan 9, 2018, 4:58 AM

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If that doesnt do the trick I think there was also a setting to set based on model position to set it

pseudo elbow Jan 9, 2018, 5:00 AM

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So, turns out "zamerny" is hardcoded memory point name for camera center

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Used as any shape center, also apparently used as aiming point for AI

cinder pivot Jan 9, 2018, 5:06 AM

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So did that do anything for you

pseudo elbow Jan 9, 2018, 5:08 AM

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Yes, it worked

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Changed lock on center too

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https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/915787290127974166/54049B305BC935A64ED50760D9210065DD95206B/

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https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/915787290127973737/BFA3DD10DBE9CABCA93A3B57C2759ACCF682DC8B/

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OA though, not sure if this is still true for A3, but most likely it is

cinder pivot Jan 9, 2018, 5:21 AM

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👍

agile flint Jan 10, 2018, 4:39 AM

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@bleak tangle With your VisualX testing did you still need a shadowLod? Or did the game just generate shadows based on the lod mesh?

bleak tangle Jan 10, 2018, 7:02 AM

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No, it doesn't seem like it's necessary. An example is the super market on Malden (a3\structures_f_argo\Commercial\Supermarket_01\Supermarket_01_malden_F.p3d), it uses sbsource=visualex and doesn't have any shadow LODs. I think there are some more examples with Tanoa buildings but this is just one I had in front of me

ebon abyss Jan 10, 2018, 7:03 AM

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sounds too good to be true 😉

agile flint Jan 10, 2018, 7:30 AM

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Music to my ears!

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haha

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Sounds great though, sounds like it can come in handy indeed, just need that documentation like you said

white jay Jan 10, 2018, 7:33 AM

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https://imgur.com/a/zxtOq

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Any critiques or tips would be appreciated, I haven't applied much normals at all, and still need to join a ton of faces to lower face count. But it's coming along.

agile flint Jan 10, 2018, 7:36 AM

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Are the blinds on the windows a mesh or texture?

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Dumb question thats a texture

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Looks really good though

lapis goblet Jan 11, 2018, 2:44 PM

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A question for game designers in general: where do you buy your models? I don't understand why very popular websites such as turbosquid don't even allow you to search by models with LOD already done for you. AFAIK all engines require LODS, and most of the time you don't need to have a gazillion poly count for a chair. So... where do you go?

onyx barn Jan 11, 2018, 2:44 PM

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Most make them...

lapis goblet Jan 11, 2018, 2:45 PM

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that is really weird though

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there are thousands of models for thousands of different usages but... gamers, no, we need to have ourown model for everything?...

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Simple example: I want a humvee in my game. On turbosquid: $200-500 for models with almost 1 million polygons. Useless for a game

white jay Jan 11, 2018, 2:53 PM

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_scar pretty sure unreal add the ability to generate lods awhile ago

bold flare Jan 11, 2018, 2:54 PM

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Can confirm that

lapis goblet Jan 11, 2018, 2:55 PM

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yes they do have automated generation of lods

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but still, manual ones are generally much better, and also, why the $500 for 1 million polygons...?

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Also, thinking about Arma obviously

terse elm Jan 11, 2018, 3:01 PM

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its costs that due the time/skill needed to make such a model

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pay peanuts, dont expect much

lapis goblet Jan 11, 2018, 3:02 PM

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Oh don't get me wrong: I COMPLETELY understand and accept those costs. My point is that there does not seem to be a lot of models targeted for GAMES in comparison to ones for all the other usages

terse elm Jan 11, 2018, 3:02 PM

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but games is a broad spectrum

lapis goblet Jan 11, 2018, 3:02 PM

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Mike this has nothing to do. I'm not a cheapo complaining about costs, I spend way more for that

terse elm Jan 11, 2018, 3:02 PM

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one games model has different requiremnets to another

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im not saying you are

lapis goblet Jan 11, 2018, 3:02 PM

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Can you please tell me one game that would require a humvee with 1 million polygons?

terse elm Jan 11, 2018, 3:03 PM

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cinematics

bold flare Jan 11, 2018, 3:03 PM

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Battlefield -3 probably

lapis goblet Jan 11, 2018, 3:03 PM

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really

white jay Jan 11, 2018, 3:03 PM

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You can also spend time reducing poly count for objects etc and make up your own lods etc

terse elm Jan 11, 2018, 3:03 PM

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i doubt the models used in BF are millions of polys

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id imagine use in cinematics is a justifible use

bold flare Jan 11, 2018, 3:04 PM

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That's why I said BF -3. BF 1 doesn't use that high poly stuff ofc

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And.. You can always reduce polycount easily. But it's hard to increase it if you need more

lapis goblet Jan 11, 2018, 3:05 PM

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well... easily, it depends. UV gets f&*ed up rather quickly, for instance.

terse elm Jan 11, 2018, 3:05 PM

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depends on game/engine

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but prices on models on thoses sights can differ due to resaleability

lapis goblet Jan 11, 2018, 3:07 PM

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Another example: still on turbosquid there's no "low poly" search.

cinder pivot Jan 11, 2018, 3:07 PM

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Scar, if you are looking at models also check out cgtrader - lower priced things because creators have better % off each sale, higher poly stuff is better because you can lower it down for arma

lapis goblet Jan 11, 2018, 3:07 PM

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You can only do so by typing it in and hoping that the modeler put it in the description

cinder pivot Jan 11, 2018, 3:07 PM

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Try cgtrader, has low poly search, asset pack search etc

lapis goblet Jan 11, 2018, 3:08 PM

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I was told to pay attention to cgtrader because of many models on there being "kindly lended" from other games, but maybe this is not true

terse elm Jan 11, 2018, 3:08 PM

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unfortunately its like a roulette

lapis goblet Jan 11, 2018, 3:08 PM

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yeah ok, don't like risking a roulette when I always want to do things properly

median bough Jan 11, 2018, 3:09 PM

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ripped stuff also came up on turbosquit, but was removed pretty fast

cinder pivot Jan 11, 2018, 3:09 PM

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You can have that on other sites, as long as you look for what you are buying and not buy from the guy who only sells a few really good things for cheap

lapis goblet Jan 11, 2018, 3:09 PM

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ok, it's sensible advice

cinder pivot Jan 11, 2018, 3:11 PM

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You also wont be able to find something that works 100% out of the drop for arma.. best to know a bit of 3d modeling to fix up the meshes before they work with what you need

lapis goblet Jan 11, 2018, 3:11 PM

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Oh I know about modeling (not an expert) but I do have already my models in arma

tacit karma Jan 11, 2018, 5:09 PM

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@lapis goblet Rendering, as a highpoly for a base as lowpoly, movies....

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theres enough of use for highpoly models

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another good page is cgtraders

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dont trust what you here about the page, is just bs

lapis goblet Jan 11, 2018, 5:32 PM

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i know there are good usages for hi poly 😃

twin urchin Jan 11, 2018, 6:41 PM

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is there a list of opticsPPEffects that can be used?

livid plover Jan 11, 2018, 7:44 PM

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is there any tutorial how to convert clothing, uniform to Arma3? I have used this but it's terrible. https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_Modding_Characters

onyx barn Jan 11, 2018, 7:45 PM

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yes, there's a better one, wait a sec

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https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_Characters_And_Gear_Encoding_Guide#Character_configuration
as a complement, there might be more ressources available

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also see the pinned messages

livid plover Jan 11, 2018, 7:48 PM

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Yeah but this is about config not converting model to arma3, object builder...

stuck oyster Jan 11, 2018, 7:48 PM

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there is sample character in the arma samples

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your models topology must be similar to it and it has to be weighted the same way

median bough Jan 11, 2018, 9:21 PM

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@livid plover
Maybe you can find something in this video tutorial
http://wiki.cup-arma3.org/index.php?title=From_2_to_3_Infantry

vernal lynx Jan 11, 2018, 9:27 PM

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I keep getting this on a specific model
c:\w\dev\futura\lib\simul.cpp(5379)(func: Entity::SetEPEMass) [AssertRLS] MainThread=6428 Object LIB_LCM3 can't have zero or negative mass! ww2\assets_m\vehicles\boats_m\ww2_lcm3.p3d Object LIB_LCM3 can't have zero or negative mass! ww2\assets_m\vehicles\boats_m\ww2_lcm3.p3d

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I have the same model duplicated, and it works fine

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the duplicated model has an inherited config, a few change on geometry lod but nothing major

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tried to regenerate completly the geometry lod, erased mass, reset it, still having this issue

stuck oyster Jan 11, 2018, 9:28 PM

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geometry lod has mass?

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all of it?

vernal lynx Jan 11, 2018, 9:28 PM

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yes

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ctrl+A then set mass

stuck oyster Jan 11, 2018, 9:28 PM

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should work yes

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perhaps it does not update in packing right

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have you tried deleting its temp files

vernal lynx Jan 11, 2018, 9:29 PM

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yeah going to try this way

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that's weird tho since pboproject returns the build log

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some edges were not converted to sharp by the convexcomponent script, maybe this

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edit : that was not it

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/360834666405560320/401127342837071873/unknown.png

cinder pivot Jan 11, 2018, 9:43 PM

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select it all and set to 0 then back to mass?

vernal lynx Jan 11, 2018, 9:44 PM

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already did

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did not help

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I litteray took it from another model that works and removed geo lod first

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and it did not make it D:

sharp halo Jan 11, 2018, 11:40 PM

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Hi there , Is there a possibilty to import smoohting groups from 3ds Max to Blender?

vernal osprey Jan 12, 2018, 10:42 AM

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Blender supports smoothing groups

lusty ginkgo Jan 12, 2018, 11:57 PM

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So I am making some variants of my sidewalk model for the specific needs of whatever region they are in, and I ran into a small issue with the preview updating in OB. For example, when I rotated the model 90 degrees, it updated, but when I went back and fourth in the history window it wouldn't reverse the changes. Sometimes it does, but then when I reapply the change by selecting in the history window, it won't update. The model seems to update to it's proper appearance sometimes for no obvious reason. It does this in both of the render modes in all different views. Any idea what this could be? If it isn't a problem with my OB setup, I suspect I might have RAM issues

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Come to think of it, I had a very similar issue in PS recently as well, where changing the brightness of a layer would work but the changes wouldn't always apply. And when they do, undoing the changes doesn't visibly change anything

static fulcrum Jan 13, 2018, 12:22 PM

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@lusty ginkgo get that sometimes too though

twin urchin Jan 13, 2018, 3:25 PM

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I was wondering you can't masive rename proxies right?

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it would be nice to have heh

ebon abyss Jan 13, 2018, 3:28 PM

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use moveObject

rough idol Jan 13, 2018, 3:32 PM

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@twin urchin you can use "Named Selection" o2 script in oxygen

twin urchin Jan 13, 2018, 3:34 PM

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hmm ok , good to know

stuck oyster Jan 13, 2018, 3:37 PM

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or run replace in files in notepad++

twin urchin Jan 13, 2018, 3:40 PM

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thats a good idea too

lunar plover Jan 13, 2018, 6:52 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8rzvViYnoQ

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Modelling Problem | Character passes through the object? How can i solve

bold flare Jan 13, 2018, 6:54 PM

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you | geo add lod! object to

lunar plover Jan 13, 2018, 6:55 PM

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what lod? my english is bad 😦

bold flare Jan 13, 2018, 6:55 PM

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Your Geometry LOD is missing

lunar plover Jan 13, 2018, 6:56 PM

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how can i add it LOD ?

bold flare Jan 13, 2018, 6:56 PM

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Just like how you added the View LOD

lunar plover Jan 13, 2018, 6:57 PM

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do you have a video tutorial

bold flare Jan 13, 2018, 6:58 PM

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No. But I'm sure Google can help you with that

lunar plover Jan 13, 2018, 7:00 PM

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I do a little research. Thank you. 😃

vernal lynx Jan 13, 2018, 11:01 PM

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Hey there ! Again a brainfuck issue !

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/360834666405560320/401873062892666882/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/360834666405560320/401873198775402526/unknown.png

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proxy and holster have the very same weight !

cinder pivot Jan 13, 2018, 11:09 PM

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whats the issue?

vernal lynx Jan 13, 2018, 11:12 PM

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obviously the gun doesnt move the same way as the holster despite it has the very wame weights

cinder pivot Jan 13, 2018, 11:32 PM

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could it be a proxy positioning issue? you could try using the actual makerov to see if it has any differences in movement

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thats what it seems to me

white jay Jan 14, 2018, 1:03 AM

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https://gyazo.com/5ca3859dfe4026006fe2472457ef8229

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Now I need to learn how to put things in game. Too much learning and reading 😦

stuck oyster Jan 14, 2018, 1:03 AM

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chuul! 👍

white jay Jan 14, 2018, 1:05 AM

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Sorry about the spastic camera angles, I have no clue wtf I'm doing.

agile flint Jan 14, 2018, 10:09 AM

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When it comes to vehicle based grenade smoke launchers, I'm guessing I need an actual projectile in the launcher to be able to have it physically shoot out?

outer condor Jan 14, 2018, 10:39 AM

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@TinyRick#4801 looking good mate 😃 what project are you involved in if you dont mind asking, or doing also a terrain with custom objects?

tacit karma Jan 14, 2018, 11:06 AM

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Not sure if I already posted it here, but the Formula Arma car is shaping up 😛 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibGqjq2a1ZI

cinder pivot Jan 14, 2018, 12:13 PM

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Bruh the steering wheel 😍

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Nice work

tacit karma Jan 14, 2018, 12:14 PM

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thanks!

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steering wheel will have some more info later

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like engine and tire temp

crystal talon Jan 14, 2018, 12:43 PM

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Could somebody help me out with the reticle for my scope? How to make it see through?

stuck oyster Jan 14, 2018, 12:45 PM

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youll need a alpha transparent texture saved as _CA for it

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for starters

tacit karma Jan 14, 2018, 12:49 PM

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@crystal talon what exactly do you mean by that? because the 2d reticle is something else than a 3d reticle

crystal talon Jan 14, 2018, 12:51 PM

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I actually have no clue where to start with the reticle hehe

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It's my first time looking at a scope mode hehe

tacit karma Jan 14, 2018, 12:54 PM

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what scope is it?

crystal talon Jan 14, 2018, 12:57 PM

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https://ibb.co/cqSkj6

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Aimpoint M4

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So a reddot one

tacit karma Jan 14, 2018, 12:59 PM

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oh that is simple

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all you need is a _ca texture with a small dot in the center that is place inside the sight

crystal talon Jan 14, 2018, 1:01 PM

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Could you maybe help me out with that texture, of have somewhere documentation on how to make that. Texture is going oke, but _ca texture things doenst ring a bell 😃

tacit karma Jan 14, 2018, 1:01 PM

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there should be a sample I think

stuck oyster Jan 14, 2018, 1:02 PM

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@crystal talon _CA is the suffix for RGB textures with alpha channel

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yourreticletexture_CA.paa

crystal talon Jan 14, 2018, 1:04 PM

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oke lemme check if i can find that sample somewhere 😃

stuck oyster Jan 14, 2018, 1:06 PM

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all the arma reticle textures are in the unpacked A3 files

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you could even us one of them

tacit karma Jan 14, 2018, 1:11 PM

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he sure can

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theres a point holo texture in it

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P:\a3\weapons_f\acc\data\collimdot_dot_red_ca.paa

crystal talon Jan 14, 2018, 1:16 PM

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Oke i will check the A3 folder to see if i can find it

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haha thx

tacit karma Jan 14, 2018, 1:16 PM

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can also use the collimdot.rvmat for it

crystal talon Jan 14, 2018, 1:17 PM

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Thx i will check it out asap

cinder pivot Jan 14, 2018, 1:26 PM

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@tacit karma to get your “gear” did you use the gear animation source ? Does that accurately work?

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Thought it was only 0 and 1

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-1*

tacit karma Jan 14, 2018, 1:26 PM

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no the source value is the gear

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so reverse is -1

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neutral 0

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1st 1

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and so on

cinder pivot Jan 14, 2018, 1:26 PM

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Ah okay cool

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Never knew it went up, guess TIL

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Thanks

tacit karma Jan 14, 2018, 1:26 PM

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np

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theres a lot of trickery in there. like the rpm gauge is just a quad behind a modeled foreground where the two right verts are animated to move

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and the LEDs are just hiding and unhiding

cinder pivot Jan 14, 2018, 1:31 PM

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The fine details make it work haha

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Bet you have a nice selection count there 😉

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Lots of little stuff

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The rpm is cool, didnt see that first viewing

tacit karma Jan 14, 2018, 2:22 PM

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looks liek this in 3ds https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/117561169685774344/400372503173660672/2018-01-09_20_37_12-FormulaA_MFD.max_-_Autodesk_3ds_Max_2017_-_Student_Version.png

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temperatures have to be a bar or something as well.

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only rpm and speed I can make as actual numbers unfortunately

rough idol Jan 14, 2018, 3:33 PM

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custom mfd values could be always scripted

polar fiber Jan 14, 2018, 3:42 PM

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Is MFD able to rotate with the steering wheel?

tacit karma Jan 14, 2018, 4:00 PM

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yup

polar fiber Jan 14, 2018, 4:42 PM

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I mean specifically the drawn class mfd stuff reyhard was talking about. Not just your modelled/animated mfd

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though I suppose your spd readout is class mfd?

tacit karma Jan 14, 2018, 6:01 PM

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yeah.

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well if the memory points are animated it should still carry over

rough idol Jan 14, 2018, 6:26 PM

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indeed - mfd is rotating with i.e. turrets of new apc interiors

stuck oyster Jan 14, 2018, 6:36 PM

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uuuh cool!!

tacit karma Jan 14, 2018, 6:51 PM

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true, completely forgot about that 😄

manic owl Jan 14, 2018, 7:26 PM

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gonna ask for your help really quick guys.. google didnt turn up anything useful

Embedded skeleton OFP2_ManSkeleton in 'a3\characters_f_bootcamp\common\vr_soldier_f.p3d' has different [ bone name ] in different p3d files. Skeleton/model 'my_path_and_model.p3d' will probably not work correctly.

Error: Skeleton of the head a3\characters_f\heads\m_white_01.p3d doesn't match the skeleton of the corresponding body my_path_and_model.p3d

What do these two buddy mean, whats their cause? They turned up with the lastest ArmA update

bold flare Jan 14, 2018, 7:27 PM

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That error seems to be pretty rare though. that's the third time I see somebody mention it

manic owl Jan 14, 2018, 7:28 PM

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I doubt the mentioned skeletons or models have changed lately, so thats why I am wondering

white jay Jan 14, 2018, 7:29 PM

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Because arma added that warning/check in before christmas, before it was only in arma diag exe

manic owl Jan 14, 2018, 7:30 PM

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ahh ok. Well the character still gets completly messed up ingame

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before the patch it was working just fine..

white jay Jan 14, 2018, 7:31 PM

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Well you were lucky then
You can't have 2 different skeletons with same name
You admin/play Exile right ? This error is why Hatchback gets screwed up on Exile randomly

manic owl Jan 14, 2018, 7:32 PM

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nope, dont wanna deal with exile

white jay Jan 14, 2018, 7:32 PM

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Werid Exile has senfo person that was active on thier forums 😛

manic owl Jan 14, 2018, 7:32 PM

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That was a while ago

bold flare Jan 14, 2018, 7:32 PM

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One guy told me yesterday about that with a TFAR backpack. If the model is faulty I would expect more guys to notice and report that.

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Maybe it's only with the VR dude?

manic owl Jan 14, 2018, 7:33 PM

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or as you correctly stated: was active

bold flare Jan 14, 2018, 7:33 PM

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I saw that error 3 times and everytime it's the vr_soldier

white jay Jan 14, 2018, 7:34 PM

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You can use mikero tools or t_d website to extract the skeleton to compare differences

manic owl Jan 14, 2018, 7:34 PM

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good idea, will do that!

manic owl Jan 14, 2018, 8:06 PM

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indeed, most of the names in vr_soldier are all lowercase while the ones in my OFP stuff are starting with upper letters

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copied them over, got it to work!
thanks for the quick responses!

bold flare Jan 14, 2018, 8:17 PM

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Is the issue only with vr soldier?

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Wouldn't making it lowercase then break it for every other soldier that has them uppercase?

manic owl Jan 14, 2018, 8:23 PM

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its basically only happening when "my" character model is spawned.
I assume vr_soldier ist just the first one it finds to compare it to

white jay Jan 15, 2018, 2:22 AM

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@outer condor Making a terrain of New Orleans, making tons of custom houses and buildings aswell.

wraith tendon Jan 15, 2018, 7:17 AM

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@safe ether it's enough to post it in one Channel.

pseudo elbow Jan 15, 2018, 2:05 PM

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Is there a way to select faces by texture?

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Found it: In resouce library

fallen quiver Jan 15, 2018, 3:05 PM

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Does anyone know how to add the option to make a weapon both semi and fully automatic? Semi is working for me, just cant figure out how to do auto

stuck oyster Jan 15, 2018, 3:05 PM

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it needs another firemode defined

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you can check any similar weapons config in configviewer

fallen quiver Jan 15, 2018, 3:45 PM

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Also having another issue, my muzzleFlash doesn't show up in game, but it does in buldozer

stuck oyster Jan 15, 2018, 4:28 PM

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that needs a model cfg animation class

fallen quiver Jan 15, 2018, 5:12 PM

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Already has one

stuck oyster Jan 15, 2018, 5:20 PM

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and it works in buldozer?

fallen quiver Jan 15, 2018, 5:26 PM

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yeah

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well there's no animation

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it just shows

stuck oyster Jan 15, 2018, 5:31 PM

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do you have the selection (Zhasleh/muzzleflash/whatever you use) in model.cfg your weapon class sections [] array?

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selectionFireAnim = "muzzleFlash"; and this in your config.cpp class

crystal talon Jan 15, 2018, 8:53 PM

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I tried some combination and things, but the red dot.paa wont show. Short version= Collimator side doenst work, and i dont know where to look at atm

stuck oyster Jan 15, 2018, 9:02 PM

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you sure the face is in right direction?

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have you unwrapped the mesh so that the sight texture is on it

crystal talon Jan 15, 2018, 9:11 PM

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Something is happening, i will report soon

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The red dot is showing 😄

crystal talon Jan 15, 2018, 10:28 PM

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Sometimes complaining here works haha, red dot and my glass is working. Everything is up and running!

stuck oyster Jan 15, 2018, 10:34 PM

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👌

white jay Jan 15, 2018, 11:15 PM

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https://imgur.com/a/e38nw So most of the normals are applied, after I bake it I think I'll be finished. As far as my first house model learning completley from scratch I don't think it's terrible, room for plenty of improvement, but I'm just hoping to figure out how to get it in game now, I'll focus on cleaning everything up for my next one.. If anyone knows some good info for me to look into it to get this baby in game, it would be much appreciated.

cinder pivot Jan 16, 2018, 12:26 AM

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Looks good!

tacit karma Jan 16, 2018, 5:58 AM

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@white jay one Improvement: Try to use shingles on the verticle edges of the roof to mask the seams

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something like this https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NYDDw19btag/maxresdefault.jpg

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otherwise, it does look pretty decent

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or this https://www.lidl.de/media/product/0/0/4/6/0/6/0/karibu-pavillon-luzern-1-inkl-pfostentraeger-und-dachschindel-rot.jpg

oak lintel Jan 16, 2018, 4:53 PM

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and pls make the rain pipe round. 😮 and on the roof a rain pipe too

wraith tendon Jan 16, 2018, 5:06 PM

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doors are a bit narrow, or?

strong plaza Jan 16, 2018, 5:06 PM

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also extrude the concrete base further down into the ground so there won't be any gaps between the building and the ground on sloped terrain

knotty forum Jan 16, 2018, 11:07 PM

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anyone have a link to a resource to start doing this? had a look on youtube and was watching a series about it but seems it was taken down by the poster

bold flare Jan 16, 2018, 11:08 PM

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"this" as in making 3D models? or "this" as in importing them into Arma? or "this" as in some very specific model related thing?

knotty forum Jan 16, 2018, 11:09 PM

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sorry should of specified, the processes of getting model content into arma 3 such as buildings or props

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i have experiance with some modeling software

bold flare Jan 16, 2018, 11:13 PM

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You export as .obj or .fbx (I use fbx personally) and then import that into Object Builder using File->Import.
That's what I can immediatly say.. Rest.. Uh.. I know there are wiki pages but not.... Oh

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check pinned items in this channel. There are some links. maybe they help. I guess we should pin some more helpful resources like that building import guide from ofpwiki

quick terrace Jan 16, 2018, 11:36 PM

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lol

knotty forum Jan 16, 2018, 11:36 PM

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ok thanks i was going off of a youtube series i found awhile back for doing all this but agian its sadly gone, and kinda took a break for a bit

quick terrace Jan 16, 2018, 11:36 PM

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god i should really write down a buidling tut this year

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ofpwiki @bold flare , rly/

bold flare Jan 16, 2018, 11:52 PM

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That was what I remembered ;u Dunno

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Biki could really use more tutorials

white jay Jan 17, 2018, 1:16 AM

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Moreso a link or tut on writing Cinfog.CPP and all that shit necessary for the coding. I followed an OBJ Builder tutorial from youtube and pretty much got that down, it's more so the configs that basically leave me at a brick wall. I'll extrude that base and round them pipes out. As far as the doors are concerned, shotgun houses down here in Nola vary wildly with the way they are constructed and sometimes have super skinny doors.

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Config.cpp*

waxen quiver Jan 17, 2018, 7:11 AM

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I think it an cool house. Will it have an interior?

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Also, what are your toughts on this one:

white jay Jan 17, 2018, 8:27 AM

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Sadly no. Most of the houses I'm going to build are exterior only based on the fact that I'm going to chrun out at least 250 different variants and I will need to do so because of performance issues.

sonic valve Jan 17, 2018, 11:55 AM

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Inquiry on random thoughts. Why exactly has it been so difficult for arma modders to add a new mesh such as a female model to Arma 3? Just going through, it seems like BI gives us a skelton sample to use.

polar fiber Jan 17, 2018, 11:57 AM

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because you have to remake all the animations if you use a new skeleton

sonic valve Jan 17, 2018, 11:57 AM

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No way of just assigning and using the same naming convention?

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Or let me rephrase that. You can't simply scale the male skeleton to what you need?

polar fiber Jan 17, 2018, 11:59 AM

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no

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since rtm animations are AFAIK based on coordinates of the joints

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if you make the skele smaller, as soon as you apply a .rtm it will stretch the model to fit the original coordinate space

glad pagoda Jan 17, 2018, 12:01 PM

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you could reuse the arma animations but you will need to debin them and then convert each animation to the new skeleton. Alot of work.

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currently doing that for a custom model.

quick terrace Jan 17, 2018, 12:03 PM

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@Skyllio#5776 really? how do you do that if you don't mind me asking

sonic valve Jan 17, 2018, 12:03 PM

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Well I see you have a 40k logo so I'm hoping it's for that?

glad pagoda Jan 17, 2018, 12:05 PM

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I just used dertm from mikero tools to debin the rtm, then in blender i just import the animation to my new skeleton which has the same bone names and structure. It the skeleton is similar the animation should look alright most of the time.

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yeah working on the new ork model

sonic valve Jan 17, 2018, 12:06 PM

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Nice, I was thinking of that.

glad pagoda Jan 17, 2018, 12:06 PM

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here's a early version with some bugs

https://youtu.be/HYInxrlN8bk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EKzy9tHtzs

sonic valve Jan 17, 2018, 12:06 PM

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I haven't made a full charicter for arma, but too me it feels wierd that no sulution exist when all animations are is cordinates.

glad pagoda Jan 17, 2018, 12:06 PM

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have to adjust most of the animations though since the ork is bigger

sonic valve Jan 17, 2018, 12:07 PM

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Yea, but it's a good start. I always felt lack of scaled charicters, and proper laser mechanics were the main hold back of a good 40k mod

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Any plans to deal with hitboxes and the fact orks won't be able to fit inside a normal human house?

glad pagoda Jan 17, 2018, 12:13 PM

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I'm going to make the geo lod small enough so this ork model can fit into the houses. the other two sizes won't fit in though.

quick terrace Jan 17, 2018, 12:14 PM

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ahh so you import the animation file to a new skeleton via blender, wasn't aware that this was possible

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i did make a new skeleton myself for a much smaller skeleton

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but then i had to redo all the animations for all stances due to different joint positions which is not worth the time

agile flint Jan 17, 2018, 12:16 PM

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Love how the Ork is so brutish yet when it walks with no weapon in hands its real casual haha

sonic valve Jan 17, 2018, 12:17 PM

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mmm....*digs up old 40k model art project..

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Might have a bastion you guys can use.

quick terrace Jan 17, 2018, 12:17 PM

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weird thing is i was sure RTM anims cannot really be exported since, afaik, it is a matrices file that defines transformation based on word location of joints points

sonic valve Jan 17, 2018, 12:18 PM

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But that is what made it feel wierd to me.

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Ultimatly you just turn it into raw data in blender.

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Back when I did other game mods for animation. You could just grab all the keys and just move it to the right, left, ect. The animation is fine becuase your globally applying the change.

glad pagoda Jan 17, 2018, 12:20 PM

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not sure how it works, but I used this blender addon to import them
https://github.com/4d4a5852/rtm_import

median bough Jan 17, 2018, 12:21 PM

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can't the blender tools from alwarren also import RTMs?

quick terrace Jan 17, 2018, 12:21 PM

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yeah ok, not a blender user myself, does that importer runs how? imports a keyed animation file to an existing skeleton, as long as the bone naming is correct?

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does that work if the size of thing is way different (longer bones, different joint position etc)?

glad pagoda Jan 17, 2018, 12:23 PM

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yeah that how it works i believe. Yeah it will works with different bone lengths and such, i tested on an eldar model which is taller than the normals arma model.

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but might need some adjustments to it

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alwarren arma toolbox only exports rtm's

median bough Jan 17, 2018, 12:25 PM

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ah, ok

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thx

polar fiber Jan 17, 2018, 12:25 PM

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I knew there were .rtm importers around, but I thought they didn't work with the animation rigs in a way where you could modify the anim other than doing basic transformation similar to animating shit in O2

quick terrace Jan 17, 2018, 12:25 PM

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^^ same here

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@Skyllio#5776 - i am asking about the skeleton, not the mesh

glad pagoda Jan 17, 2018, 12:26 PM

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also had to use an older version of pboproject to binerize the animations. animations would go all over the place if i used the new version

quick terrace Jan 17, 2018, 12:26 PM

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i guess i'll need to give it a try then, because from what i know about how rtm is done, what you are saying shouldn't really work directly

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because the joins are not linked

glad pagoda Jan 17, 2018, 12:27 PM

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yeah a skeleton with longer bones should work. i was testing with a few different skeletons with different bone lengths.

quick terrace Jan 17, 2018, 12:27 PM

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rtm only keeps joint poistion (world XYZ pos)

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if you change the joins position, a rtm anim will not work

sonic valve Jan 17, 2018, 12:33 PM

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But he is essentually making new ones from what I undestand. He is just exporting the animations to blender as a template.

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I assume when he ports it back the game it just uses that current xyz data.

quick terrace Jan 17, 2018, 12:36 PM

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@sonic valve i do understand that, what i don't understand though is if i had a kid's skeleton, that is 50% in size of the male skeleton, with most animation files, minus .rtm, the size of the skeleton shouldn't matter, because the bones are linked and whatever not

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for rtm, the joins are not part of a skeleton rig, driven by DK/IK whatever

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they are point positions in world space

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in any case, we should move to #arma3_animation, and i most likely need to give it a try

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and, afaik, there is just a couple of rigs that are compatible with blender, macser's beeing one of these

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maybe he created a new one/edited the existing one, i don't know

sonic valve Jan 17, 2018, 12:40 PM

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Maybe I'm just picturing it diffrently becuase it makes sense to me >.<

glad pagoda Jan 17, 2018, 12:40 PM

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Horriblegoat gave us a copy of his skeleton that he was using. Then i just made mine similar to his for my model.

sonic valve Jan 17, 2018, 12:43 PM

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Who would I contact if I have stuff to donate to the 40k mod? I have a small collection of modeled 40k buildings. Like Bastions, Barricades, ect

glad pagoda Jan 17, 2018, 12:50 PM

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@sonic valve best place would probably be here, and message E_50_Panzer.

https://discord.gg/hvHsEeu

woeful viper Jan 17, 2018, 5:47 PM

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@stuck oyster has made a batch converter for vanilla animations to target new skeletons

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@sonic valve or here 😛 https://discord.gg/RzFdgFG

stuck oyster Jan 17, 2018, 6:02 PM

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@woeful viper alredy put down some links at #arma3_animation

woeful viper Jan 17, 2018, 6:02 PM

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yeah i saw... too late. Thats what you get when you read one after the other

stuck oyster Jan 18, 2018, 5:39 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/362730593684946955/403422985312010241/unknown.png

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lasers are operational

wraith tendon Jan 18, 2018, 6:36 AM

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DrawLine or "native engine bullets"?

waxen quiver Jan 18, 2018, 6:56 AM

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Very nicely done

rough idol Jan 18, 2018, 7:07 AM

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Long translation?

rough idol Jan 18, 2018, 10:39 AM

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now I see that there are also EffectFly particles used too 😉

wraith tendon Jan 18, 2018, 10:47 AM

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ah

stuck oyster Jan 18, 2018, 11:29 AM

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Long translation only

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but separate object for the beams

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so that the pilotview lasers work right and dont cut 2through" stuff

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theres stream of engine bullets that I intend to use for hit/damage calculation

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but the effect is very hacky fake 😄

rough idol Jan 18, 2018, 11:33 AM

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you can try effectFly too

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I got something almost identical to your 2nd screen with just particle effects

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it was working pretty nice with 1 beam but 4 of them could hit particle limit though

stuck oyster Jan 18, 2018, 11:37 AM

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yeah I was sceptical that particles could work in this case because of the limits

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the second pic is bit blurry because how the material glows agains sky

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so it causes flicker on the beam

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and the beam is like 1cm thick anyway

crystal talon Jan 18, 2018, 6:06 PM

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@stuck oyster Are you building a mech warrior?

woeful viper Jan 18, 2018, 6:11 PM

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@rough idol unless its possible to make very long particles that exactly face along the direction of the shot

violet vale Jan 19, 2018, 1:41 PM

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So quick question - I'm modeling a peice of scuba gear for a custom mod, and I got all the wiehgt painting properly

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how do I get the oxygen tubes to bend and stretch?

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if anyone's confused, its kind of like a pilots helmet tube

tacit karma Jan 19, 2018, 1:59 PM

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also weighting

violet vale Jan 19, 2018, 2:04 PM

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which one do I weigh it to?

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@tacit karma

tacit karma Jan 19, 2018, 2:07 PM

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some other parts of the mask that has weight = 1 anyway

violet vale Jan 19, 2018, 2:08 PM

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So make it 50/50

tacit karma Jan 19, 2018, 2:08 PM

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no you have to weight each vertex according to how much it needs to move

violet vale Jan 19, 2018, 2:08 PM

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K, thanks

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I have like no experiance in wieging tho, i'm only like new to modding

tacit karma Jan 19, 2018, 2:09 PM

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well good luck then.

violet vale Jan 19, 2018, 2:09 PM

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thanks

whole hill Jan 20, 2018, 11:04 AM

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Hello all I'm sorry in advance for my bad English.
I don't no i'm in the good section
I have a problem when I want to binarise my model (car).
PBO Project show me the following errors : https://www.dropbox.com/s/gjar97seoca3qpa/Warning.txt?dl=0
When I open "view Output(s)" of PBO Project, I have this message : "ALF_SMUR_W212.pbo not produced due to error(s)" https://i.gyazo.com/7e486c96c2ea77e6be0e64e263cc9789.png
Do you need something else to help me?

lime nebula Jan 20, 2018, 11:11 AM

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Check "noisy output" and send us the new "view output"

stuck oyster Jan 20, 2018, 4:15 PM

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have you written named proteprties like "propertyname = 1" because that would not be right

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named property has 2 values, the class where you put its name and the value where you put the value of the class

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📎 unknown.png

daring solstice Jan 21, 2018, 3:40 AM

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Hello everyone!
I am a new model maker(ish)
I have been trying to import a model to Arma but am unsure of how to do it, I have the textures and Materials down (I think)
I have been doing this all on my own pretty much so I am unsure if I did it right and what to do next.

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I am porting in Wolfenstein uniform models to Arma 3 and have been unsure if I am doing it right or not.

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Anyone think they could help/give tips?

tacit karma Jan 21, 2018, 8:21 AM

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Yes.

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Don't port ripped models.

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kthxbye.

daring solstice Jan 21, 2018, 12:45 PM

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.-.

twin urchin Jan 21, 2018, 12:49 PM

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yes , this isnt Gmod you know

stuck oyster Jan 21, 2018, 1:06 PM

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@daring solstice As you may have noticed we here dont take content theft lightly. If youre interested in 3dmodelling and all that I would suggest you get familiar with your chosen 3d modeling program and get into making your own content.

daring solstice Jan 21, 2018, 1:51 PM

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I'm not trying to make a profit off of this, i just was wanting it so me and a few friends could make some fun scenarios...

stuck oyster Jan 21, 2018, 1:52 PM

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its not about profit. its about principle of not taking someone elses work.

woeful viper Jan 21, 2018, 1:52 PM

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^without their permission

median bough Jan 21, 2018, 1:53 PM

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I'm not trying to make a profit off of this, i just was wanting it so me and a few friends could make some fun scenarios...
it's still theft. don't expect help here

daring solstice Jan 21, 2018, 4:21 PM

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So what now? i just scrap what i did?

bold flare Jan 21, 2018, 4:22 PM

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Yes

daring solstice Jan 21, 2018, 4:26 PM

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I feel a bit bummed, I worked on this for awhile resizing it and all but I see where you all are coming from.

bold flare Jan 21, 2018, 4:26 PM

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We could tell you how to get a model in game and stuff. But that's useless as you can't use your model anyway

foggy finch Jan 21, 2018, 9:08 PM

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WIP Sunday?
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img922/9629/7BwQXA.png

median bough Jan 21, 2018, 9:12 PM

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sweet!

hallow turtle Jan 21, 2018, 9:13 PM

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that looks pretty cool Uro

foggy finch Jan 21, 2018, 9:23 PM

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thanks - I have the other muzzle done too, just not in this render, bipod n scopes next 😃

foggy finch Jan 21, 2018, 10:34 PM

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anyone know if HEIAP ammo is possible in A3 ?

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such as Raufoss Mk211 rounds

polar fiber Jan 21, 2018, 10:42 PM

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we have a kind of Mk211 in RHS

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not sure if it does what you had in mind

foggy finch Jan 21, 2018, 10:43 PM

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which ammo? ill give it a test and see 😄

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oh nm found it

polar fiber Jan 21, 2018, 10:52 PM

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Mk211 for the M107

foggy finch Jan 21, 2018, 10:53 PM

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yeah shooting some ais atm 😄

foggy finch Jan 21, 2018, 11:09 PM

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yeah pretty similar

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guess there's no way to delay the explosion until after the penetration for example shooting house walls etc, else you'd have already done it

white jay Jan 21, 2018, 11:46 PM

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I'm getting much better results with Cycles when doing texturing rather than Blender Render. Should I just use nodes in BR or is it worth the effort using Cycles for Arma.

polar fiber Jan 22, 2018, 12:06 AM

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I thought the explosion occurs on impact (point detonating). The penetrator is set behind the RDX https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/06/Raufoss_NM140_MP_(en).svg

woeful viper Jan 22, 2018, 12:23 AM

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almost any explosive ammo for ground usage has a very tiny delay - so that it does not harmlessly explode in front of a very thin sheet of metal, but behind it

foggy finch Jan 22, 2018, 12:28 AM

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yeah which by design is long enough a delay for the fuse to fire after penetration has occured, resulting in explosive/incentiary damage. for example shooting a light armoured vehicle and disabling the vehicle and it's occupants through fragmentation once the bullet has passed through the armour.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-explosive_incendiary/armor-piercing_ammunition

white jay Jan 22, 2018, 3:09 AM

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https://imgur.com/a/EytdX Fuck yeah cycles ftw

foggy finch Jan 22, 2018, 3:11 AM

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how wide are the doors? they look pretty narrow

white jay Jan 22, 2018, 3:53 AM

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Picture is on an angle so they look smaller than they are. Some doors on shotgun houses are pretty narrow to begin with though.

woeful viper Jan 22, 2018, 9:12 AM

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thats not due to the angle. they are narrow, or they are insanely high

dreamy lagoon Jan 22, 2018, 12:39 PM

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how do i change the particle effect when a bullet hits my object?

bold flare Jan 22, 2018, 12:39 PM

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The material on your GEO/fire geo lod

dreamy lagoon Jan 22, 2018, 12:40 PM

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thx!

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should have read the documentation, lol

stuck oyster Jan 22, 2018, 12:47 PM

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👆 Fast learner! 👌 👍 💪

dreamy lagoon Jan 22, 2018, 12:57 PM

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😄

foggy finch Jan 23, 2018, 6:47 AM

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@slender river can you cleanse this spammer from our lives?

twin urchin Jan 23, 2018, 6:49 AM

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fecking cross posting

foggy finch Jan 23, 2018, 6:49 AM

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i'd just outright ban him for spamming, but im a dick like that.

twin urchin Jan 23, 2018, 6:49 AM

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yeah almost on channels ffs

quick terrace Jan 23, 2018, 7:50 AM

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@fluid ocean ^^

obsidian forum Jan 23, 2018, 9:08 AM

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Greetings,
Is there a setting for adding an outline of a building in the 2d map?
no/yes - with a pointer to how is enough for me.

tulip beacon Jan 23, 2018, 9:12 AM

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named property map=house

obsidian forum Jan 23, 2018, 9:36 AM

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Will that make an actual outline or just a bounding box? The buildings 2d visualisation is a square while the original model is u-shaped.

tulip beacon Jan 23, 2018, 9:37 AM

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bounding box, probably you can create custom icon

obsidian forum Jan 23, 2018, 9:38 AM

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I did some experiments with Icons, but then I will have to "activate" the model so that it can be interacted with while editing the mission.

obsidian forum Jan 23, 2018, 10:12 AM

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I read somewhere about contour data, is there somewhere the rules for this kind of data is described?

stuck oyster Jan 23, 2018, 1:42 PM

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@obsidian forum Arma does only the bounding box representation of an object on the map, if you want U shape you need to split the object in 3 parts. What do you mean by contour data? the interwall of contour lines on the map or what? All that is generated from the heightmap as far as I know.

obsidian forum Jan 23, 2018, 1:50 PM

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I read somewhere some time ago about a named property->map=building outline, this parameter required contour data to make it work. If I remember correctly at al.

stuck oyster Jan 23, 2018, 2:07 PM

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I could be wrong but I dont thing that has been for Arma.

meager anchor Jan 23, 2018, 3:41 PM

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I have a problem with a uniform model I've got to work in the game, where when equpped it causes my pistol to become invisible. Any ideas?

polar fiber Jan 23, 2018, 4:11 PM

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missing proxy?

stuck oyster Jan 23, 2018, 9:53 PM

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Anyone know if thermal texture can be made look like its always hot

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on a static object

tacit karma Jan 24, 2018, 5:54 AM

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static in house`?

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or still vehicle class

twin urchin Jan 24, 2018, 7:13 AM

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@stuck oyster set it like always white?

stuck oyster Jan 24, 2018, 11:41 AM

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yes always white @twin urchin currently inherits from class house @tacit karma

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so far have been able to make it always black in thermal

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(whiteHot)

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which is rather odd xD

twin urchin Jan 24, 2018, 11:42 AM

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when you set TI as a white texture , it is still black?

stuck oyster Jan 24, 2018, 11:44 AM

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yes the TI texture is all white, saved with _TI and I got pretty high values in the model.cfg temperature values

twin urchin Jan 24, 2018, 11:45 AM

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did you tried it without TI if tha changes anything?

stuck oyster Jan 24, 2018, 11:45 AM

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hmm no

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ill give that a whirl too

tacit karma Jan 24, 2018, 11:51 AM

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try a procedural material

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and put all channels to 1

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@stuck oyster

stuck oyster Jan 24, 2018, 11:55 AM

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started with that but it did not seem to do anything. I've done this before somewhere but cant find the test file.

polar fiber Jan 24, 2018, 12:11 PM

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what's in your alpha channel?

rough idol Jan 24, 2018, 12:12 PM

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TI stage is not working for objects

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TI is generated from CO map where white colours are treated as hot and black ones as cold

stuck oyster Jan 24, 2018, 12:13 PM

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ah that explains it 😄

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thanks @rough idol for clarification!

tacit karma Jan 24, 2018, 2:43 PM

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ah yeah totally forgot that lol

stuck oyster Jan 24, 2018, 2:46 PM

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did not however get it to show up white even with just plain white texture

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can probably turn it into a vehicle though so that might work

stuck oyster Jan 24, 2018, 4:54 PM

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ok so making my fake laser object a tank and turning its engine on via script I get the lasers to glow

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📎 unknown.png

rough idol Jan 24, 2018, 5:21 PM

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You don't need to turn on engine

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There is set ti pars script command

stuck oyster Jan 24, 2018, 5:24 PM

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oh excellent

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found it!! Thanks @rough idol

stuck oyster Jan 24, 2018, 7:35 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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pew pew

hallow turtle Jan 24, 2018, 7:36 PM

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What kind of wizard shit is this?

stuck oyster Jan 24, 2018, 7:36 PM

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I paid #350 to the ferryman

hallow turtle Jan 24, 2018, 7:37 PM

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😱

stuck oyster Jan 24, 2018, 7:45 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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convergence needs a bit adjustment though

hallow turtle Jan 24, 2018, 7:47 PM

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Wow

stuck oyster Jan 24, 2018, 8:03 PM

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The torso animates with 124 bones of which about half is for the arm movement and weapon alignment 😄

hollow fulcrum Jan 24, 2018, 8:16 PM

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geezus man, awesome stuff though 👍

median bough Jan 24, 2018, 8:54 PM

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I paid #350 to the ferryman
you fool... one coin is enough.... tststs

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😄

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@stuck oyster

stuck oyster Jan 24, 2018, 9:07 PM

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not for lasers

rough idol Jan 25, 2018, 6:33 AM

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Watch out for bone limit then

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Reached it few times recently - it's 255 bones per model

agile flint Jan 25, 2018, 8:05 AM

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Cant you just range the laser like a normal weapon/

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?

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That could adjust convergence accordingly?

foggy finch Jan 25, 2018, 9:07 AM

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im wondering wth you were rigging that had 255+ bones

rough idol Jan 25, 2018, 9:10 AM

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MiG-29 😉 nozzle alone used ~80 bones

foggy finch Jan 25, 2018, 9:10 AM

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jeez

rough idol Jan 25, 2018, 9:10 AM

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T-72 Kontakt-1 ERA was also pretty heavy for arma

foggy finch Jan 25, 2018, 9:11 AM

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https://imageshack.com/a/img922/3158/MgJ5L4.gif

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have some bipod love

rough idol Jan 25, 2018, 9:11 AM

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and from official content Xian reached bone limit too due to rocket MFD icons in cockpit pre dynamic loadout MFDs

foggy finch Jan 25, 2018, 9:11 AM

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ah yeah i forget that the mfd's use em

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http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img924/9126/VUcBUS.jpg

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got the aw50/l121a1 in arma now, just need to tweak position n make custom reload anims

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also found that a3/data_f/proxies/muzzle_flash_GM6.p3d has missing textures

twin urchin Jan 25, 2018, 9:58 AM

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speaking of bipods , you can somehow tweak the values how the bipod can turn meaning the angles?

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or it is hardcoded?

foggy finch Jan 25, 2018, 10:33 AM

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think they are hardcoded, only thing in the rifle_base_f classes i can find relative to bipod n pivot is the bipod named selection itself deployedPivot = ""bipod";

stuck oyster Jan 25, 2018, 12:28 PM

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@rough idol yeah Im aware of the limit. Got most of the moving parts done already so can use the rest for some fancy stuff.

peak gull Jan 25, 2018, 8:05 PM

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Hey

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im looking for hardcore experienced model maker

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i need small help/tip with model.cfg

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Any1 have 3mins to spare?

stuck oyster Jan 25, 2018, 8:06 PM

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best to drop yer issue here and usually someone can help

peak gull Jan 25, 2018, 8:06 PM

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Im trying to make Rifle, with specific part (selection on it)

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this part has to rotare, just rotate.

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All the time, from equip to drop it.

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And i cant solve it with model.cfg, im not sure if its even possible

woeful viper Jan 25, 2018, 8:08 PM

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80 bones for engines? wat...

stuck oyster Jan 25, 2018, 8:08 PM

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you could try giving it animationsource = "time"

peak gull Jan 25, 2018, 8:08 PM

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Tried

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its source or animationsource ?

stuck oyster Jan 25, 2018, 8:09 PM

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source yes

peak gull Jan 25, 2018, 8:09 PM

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in samples i saw source

stuck oyster Jan 25, 2018, 8:09 PM

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if it doesnt work for weapons it might not be possible

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perhaps isSelected

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and sourceAddress = "loop"

peak gull Jan 25, 2018, 8:14 PM

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lemme try

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intresting