arma3_model

[wraith tendon]

That Topic was closed a few minutes ago @thorn geyser So stop it for now pls, thx.

[dusky dragon]

my last word (for now): the Banter was strong tonight

[thorn geyser]

I would really like to see all the models you are working on, especially the removed ones on that Thread. 😉

[white jay]

Lol, on a banter note, happy to be a banter bag anytime, hit me up 😉 When your feeling bored. You can always rip the shit out of me i can take it ;). But although i do value that it takes time to model, i think you guys are obviously too high caliber and i don't look to pay for a modeler. Not currently anyway, maybe in time

[thorn geyser]

shouldn't be too hard to show some sneak peaks, can it? 😃

[quick terrace]

also, it is always better so simply be open and truthfully about it

when you ask for it

[white jay]

Sorry Rawner, i'm disregarding any of your comments, no offence

[thorn geyser]

So no sneak peak models? 😦

[white jay]

Yeah i see that now, But usually where ever i go i have to have a barrier ready , there is alot of other chat gorups out there that share your feelings on life mods. So usually justification is needed to such chats before they cconsider letting me speak

[quick terrace]

and just to make it clear - i wouldn't take your money, nor do i need any of that, i have my work plate full anyways.

[thorn geyser]

C'mon, just one little new model you guys are making, please?!? 😉

[quick terrace]

the question was there because if you can put a correct price on something, you can translate that in value

[wraith tendon]

@white jay Then again: If you would have argued, and proofed it -> Nothing would have happend. We are talking normal now (Okay, except @thorn geyser 😛 ), or?

[quick terrace]

and that means using other people's work without permission makes it easier to tell where you are in terms of theft = a game car model is anywhere between 1200-2000$ depending on detail.

[thorn geyser]

Well I'll shut up if he shows a model other than the traffic light and the bridge 😉

[white jay]

Lol, on a side note- Dscha, i do think you look a bit like Robbie Williams 😉

[wraith tendon]

More like Pennywise

[white jay]

lol

[thorn geyser]

@white jay so if you refuse to show me any models, then I presume you ripped them. 😉

[wraith tendon]

@thorn geyser ....

[white jay]

Rawner, what ever you think 😃

Cheers guys, all the best

[wraith tendon]

Okay, who is next?

no @dusky dragon

[quick terrace]

pick me pick me

[dusky dragon]

@wraith tendon you perhpas

[wraith tendon]

Nah, you are boring! You argue back!

😄

[dusky dragon]

*perhpas

[quick terrace]

i'd rip you a new one before you start

😛

[dusky dragon]

**perhaps

how about @thorn geyser ??

[thorn geyser]

I'd rip my abs if I did anything like that 😉

[wraith tendon]

nawww

Oh right

@thorn geyser PROOF IT!

Doesn't matter what! Just proof it!

[dusky dragon]

AHAHAH LMAO

[thorn spire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F0Xx-oQKsU

[dusky dragon]

that guy looks like Jamie Fox

[wraith tendon]

oh boy

[dusky dragon]

😄

[thorn geyser]

😂

😹

[umbral shuttle]

per the wiki here
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Scope_3D
wats the purpose of the black tunnel?

the front/rear shadow I get does the cool parallax effect, the fake lens is to show the glass. but I dont get what the black tunnel does couldnt I just texture the inside of the scope fully black?

[opaque jolt]

The black tunnel is the interior of your scope; if it wasn’t there, you’d see backface culling

Theoretically speaking, if you’ve already got the interior of your scope modelled, all you have to do is assign black to those faces

[umbral shuttle]

yeah my model right now has interior faces, so I wouldnt need the tunnel then?

[opaque jolt]

As I understand it, yes

[umbral shuttle]

okay cool thaks

[opaque jolt]

I still recommend texturing those faces as just straight black, mostly because I can’t think of any scopes off the top of my head where you can see details between the lenses

Aside from the reticle ofc

[umbral shuttle]

oh yea I got that area masked off to be fully black

[opaque jolt]

remember your RVmat as well

iirc, there's a way to just assign a solid colour to a face

[thorn spire]

Bet all the donation takers are like that... Note.. Im not supporter of semitism

Well donations are for people who give them... Meant people who just exploit 😄

Hey in Max im stuck in the viewport where it display vertex all the time

How to get rid of that

[quick terrace]

img

[vital lagoon]

This feature is being reconstructed.

[thorn spire]

http://i.imgur.com/vOOFBPi.jpg

[sour bough]

If I have multiple magazine proxies on a weapon, will that duplicate the magazine on each proxy? (This is the intended effect, doing it so we can animate individual shells in a rotary grenade launcher and have them be proxy'd)

[stuck oyster]

Hand held weapon?

Magazine proxy is single proxy per muzzle

I don't think you can have many per muzzle

Shells would be mesh and they all would be present in the magazine model

Not separate entities

[sour bough]

Yeah, think M32 rotary grenade launcher. Not a huge deal to just have them be mesh and not have different ammo types shown visually.

[stuck oyster]

well you cant really have different ammo types in a single magazine

[sour bough]

yeah, but in order to animate single shells, I'd need the magazine model to be single-shell rather than all of em lined up to fit in the cylinders. So visually different loads would need to be multi-proxy to have the right number.

[stuck oyster]

no? the magazine proxy can contain separate shells that can be individually animated

but just as pure mesh, not proxies within the magazine proxy

just like you have say a belt or see through bullet magazine that animates

[sour bough]

Wait, you can animate inside of the mag proxy?

[stuck oyster]

yes

[quick terrace]

hmmm....it shouldn't happen unless you have certain modifiers in your stack

make sure you have no selection in your top modif in the stack

[thorn spire]

rgr

[pulsar escarp]

HowTo question: I have a particle effect script, I want that particle effect script to fire from the weapon, would I have a EVH onFired and attachTo the weapon? or is there another way? #flamethrower

[opaque jolt]

isn't that how one of the belt-fed LMGs works; animating the magazine?

[thorn spire]

Maybe ask on #arma3_scripting

[sour bough]

I could've sworn that's not a mag proxy but rather part of the weapon model

[opaque jolt]

Yeah, belt mags are kinda gun-specific, I wouldn’t be surprised

[fervent steppe]

Oh what I miss 😱

[woeful viper]

a lot of dodging questions, thats for sure

[fervent steppe]

I noticed. I wanted to go back and read it all but "ain't nobody got time for that" lol

[woeful viper]

you wouldnt be any the wiser if you did

[fallen compass]

Where can I find out what I need to create a vest, uniform, helmet, etc.? Clothing items

[north sundial]

Arma 3 samples on steam is the best place to start, then searching this discord for the tips and tricks imo

If you have any questions after that fire them away in the appropriate channel

[fallen compass]

Is there anyone who knows about this and is Spanish?

hay alguien aca que sepa español que sepa moddear?, escribir al md

[marsh canyon]

No, this server speaks English and only

[opaque jolt]

As Kenny said, reverse engineer the samples; I recommend MrClock’s Object Builder addon for importing, exporting, and setting up P3Ds

Outside of that, learning how to make game-ready models if you don’t already know will help you understand what you need for an import

For that I recommend avoiding instagram slop, and learning how to manipulate vertexes with the translate, rotate and scale tools as well as the 3D cursor; make a model vertex by vertex, then learn shortcuts afterwards

Maybe start with something that has a lot of straight lines rather than something with a lot of curvature, like a firearm for example

[stuck oyster]

Yeah forget anything Arma and first learn 3d modeling

[south badge]

Yeah he should start with the easy part

[opaque jolt]

PFFFTTT

Highkey

Tbh though, making assets from scratch is so much more satisfying than stuff bought off sketchfab, at least in my experience

Not that I get to do it all that often anymore, but such is life

Forget the UMP-45; if Blender is a toolbox, why not use it to make a UMP-7.62?

[gilded bane]

Holy fuck I missed a good grilling 😭

son got made

@white jay I don't think people have a 'problem' with life mods at all. I'm working on one and we don't get much controversy because we try stay as true as possible. That's what people around here don't like.

I know about 99% that our models aren't ripped though, Because they are all Australian for one, and all purchased from Humster.

Given to us from a very very nice GTA IV community ♥♥

[tulip narwhal]

Hi, one little question about start modeling, it is true that we should model using quads in blender, but before importing the model into the p3d, it is better for the virtual reality engine to convert the model faces from quads to triangles?

Thank you.

[opaque jolt]

Ctrl+t is your friend, yes

[north sundial]

Use a triangulate modifier not Ctrl t

Non destructive modelling is your best friend

[north sundial]

You can do quads for most lods, the shadow lods require triangulation, I don’t think others do

[south badge]

Have I been doing it wrong the whole time?

[opaque jolt]

You still have to apply the modifier to the mesh anyways; I don’t see the point

[north sundial]

But If you use the triangulate modifier you can set the minimum sides to 5 so it catches all your ngons and tick keep normals

[north sundial]

When you export there’s an option to apply modifiers on export which only applies them to the temporary exported model, not your original

[opaque jolt]

Imo, A high poly is one thing, but a low poly is relatively easy to spot-fix

Besides, I wouldn’t call triangulation “destructive modelling,” it’s just visualizing what the computer already does to quads

If you know how to read it, there’s no problem

[north sundial]

It causes problems for loop selection and other modifiers like bevel etc

It’s easier to keep your models mostly tri free while working on them

If you wish to make it harder on yourself for no real benefit by having the triangulation applied manually, that’s your choice. I’m just offering up my experience that it’s easier to work with when you use a modifier

[opaque jolt]

I tend to see modifiers as means to an end to achieve a shape; I’d rather do the QC myself so I know it gets done right

Sometimes you want things to triangulate a certain way rather than what the computer thinks you want

[north sundial]

If that’s the way you wish to work, no problem.

[opaque jolt]

Hey, when I first started, I started out placing vertexes and then manually drawing faces and edges lol

I’d still recommend it tbh, I see a lot of new modellers overlap edges and verts without realizing

[tulip narwhal]

Thank you all

[stuck oyster]

Triangulation is better done before texturing as otherwise you may end up with deforming textures If triangulation goes the other way

But yes the mentioned triangulation modifier is good way to keep quads present if you need to alter the model

[tulip narwhal]

so process will be something like:

• Blender : Model in quads.
• Substance painter 3d: create textures from blender model before triangulation.
• Export from blender applying triangulation modifier
• Import in object builder ... (from here on , I'm confident).

thanks

[stuck oyster]

Model in quads, uv mapping, in blender

Add triangulation modifier, Export as fbx to substance for texturing (export applies modifier)

The add textures back in to blender, set up everything Arma export related and export as p3d to be put into arma

[opaque jolt]

Don’t forget vertex grouping

[tulip narwhal]

ctr+m

?

[stuck oyster]

?

[stuck oyster]

I'd assume that's part of the modeling in blender step. But yes it is important.

[tulip narwhal]

sorry wrong shortcut.

[opaque jolt]

I generally get the mesh and UV done first, then weight paint/vertex group

For character models especially, having textures to give visual feedback about how the mesh is warping can really help when it comes to feathering things out

[tulip narwhal]

I not going to reach that far... I'm really nooby at modeling, lest's stick to something easy at the begining, like a box or barrel 😅

again, thank you all.

[opaque jolt]

Nah

Jump in the deep end

Model a cyborg with all kinds of pipes and cables and really in-depth hair and a beard

this is not legal advice

[reef gate]

Would it be feasible to make a mod where you have a Toyota helix and you can bolt on different armour plates to up armour it, either in vehicle customisation or by using ACE interact to physically attach plates at different points?

[opaque jolt]

If you’re thinking of something like My Summer Car, mayybeee?

the model would be the biggest bottleneck for that I think

[reef gate]

I’m like 70% done with the Toyota model.
I was thinking of using a similar system to replacing wheels in ACE, however I’m not sure if the armour plates would actually be able to provide armour

[opaque jolt]

That I’m not sure about, but it’s certainly possible wrt visually

[reef gate]

wrt?

[opaque jolt]

With reference to or something like that

Idk, words

[reef gate]

Okay cheers, my plan is to finish the base Toyota, then make a version with each plate combo

Would doing it via vehicle customisation be more optimised than attach to?

[opaque jolt]

That would be outside my perview

[cunning temple]

If you doing buildings, you will want to be using multimaterial https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Multimaterial

[stuck oyster]

It can be done with model cfg animated hiding of parts in vehicle garage menu.

Visual and geometry mesh can both be manipulated

[reef gate]

Oh perfect, what about the fireLOD?

[stuck oyster]

All geometry

So that too

[reef gate]

Oh okay perfect

Would it be possible to do this for weapon customisation? Like putting different weapons on the back of the technical down the road?

[fallen compass]

Does anyone know why this is happening to me?

[last spindle]

$750......wow someone is sitting back with a scotch at the moment enjoying life

[stuck oyster]

gets a lot more difficult. for weappons I would do model variants

[fallen compass]

.

[opaque jolt]

looks like a combination of bad alignment in the P3D and no weight painting/vertex grouping

[stuck oyster]

👆 this

[fallen compass]

But he already has mass.

[stuck oyster]

mass isnt a thing. it needs vertex group weighting to fit the skeleton animations

[fallen compass]

You already have them

[opaque jolt]

Turn on weight painting mode and scroll through that list

[stuck oyster]

it has same requirements as headgear, which are listed on a pinned message

[fallen compass]

in which one?

[fallen compass]

Yeah?

[opaque jolt]

Is it all blue?

[stuck oyster]

scrroll the pins to find headhear requirements

[stuck oyster]

this is something else

not weightpainting

[fallen compass]

That's what they told me.

[stuck oyster]

well it is possible someone told you wrong

[opaque jolt]

I’m away from my laptop atm; Goat is correct

[fallen compass]

and?

[opaque jolt]

That means you’re looking at the wrong thing

And I can’t log on to help atm

[stuck oyster]

look up weightpainting tutorials

[fallen compass]

So what should I show them?

[stuck oyster]

blender has plenty

look up what weightpainting means

[fallen compass]

Ujum

[stuck oyster]

youll have to learn all the basic 3d modeling things

before you can make game models

[fallen compass]

Yes, but let me show you my model so you know exactly what it has.

[stuck oyster]

since you dont know what weightpainting is, you dont have it

so thats what the problem is

you are tryign to jump ahead before learning the basics

that is a no no

[fallen compass]

Which section is it in? This one?

[stuck oyster]

:L

[fallen compass]

Bro, I'm not using my own model, it's someone else's and I'm supposed to already have it.

[stuck oyster]

Bro thats not a shortcut

if you dont know how to do things, you have to learn

also wheres the model from?

[fallen compass]

I'm learning by reading and looking at other models.

._.

[stuck oyster]

cant just take someone elses models without permission

we have 0 tolerance for ripping/stealing

[fallen compass]

Bro, it's a private mod from a chill friend

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-gif-18370552922777914358

[stuck oyster]

so if its taken from some game that will get you banned

0 tolerance for that shit bro

[fallen compass]

Relax, bro, I just want to see how the mods are formed or structured.

Then I'll make one from scratch.

Now I'm basing it mostly on the example given by Arma 3.

[stuck oyster]

no

if its taken from some other game like how pretty much all "private mods from chill friend" are

you wont get any help with it

and if you continue working with it here, that leads to ban

you have been warned

and thats the only warning you get

[fallen compass]

Ok.

Alright

[last spindle]

http://i.imgur.com/FnrtFUY.png added a vert grip, el cheapo laser module

[opaque jolt]

o>.o>

oy vey

[shut jungle]

pboProject is giving me "odol sphere is not a float" on an old ass model lol, what do I do now?

[stuck oyster]

is it model you made and have source for?

odol refers to binarized model. you typically dont pack such

[shut jungle]

it seems to be MLOD, at least that's what it says when I open it on notepad and check the text

[shut jungle]

No I do not have source, its just me trying to optimize and saving space on mods by deleting unused files, but this one seems to have been packed with smth else than pboProject

A3OB wont work either when I run it on binarize

[stuck oyster]

thats not really a thing. you dont repack mods like that

[shut jungle]

oh, well, I am saving up plenty of space

I just delete all of the textures and files and run pboproject so it tells me the dependencies of everything

[stuck oyster]

do you release those mods?

[shut jungle]

I get to exclude all the garbage

[stuck oyster]

we dont really support that kind of stuff

its not part of "making something workflow"

[shut jungle]

If it helps people then hell yea

[stuck oyster]

that is bannable in most cases

since you are likely breaking the licensing of the original mods

[shut jungle]

oh 😕

well, thank you though

don't want to get into anything sketchy

[finite stump]

Can decals have surface noise?

[finite stump]

And how do you get decals to remove the grass below them when placed?

[green wasp]

Hey do any of yall lovely people know how to make head models for arma 3? I got one commissioned but i dont know how to import it or mod it in

I have no idea where to start

[quick terrace]

@last spindle - nice, very nice

what is the mesh for? is the the zenitco AK rail?

ahhh, it isn't...:) nice HP either way

[last spindle]

its a http://tdi-arms.com/x47.html

[quick terrace]

ahh ok

is the base ak103?

or some sort of AKM with AK74 muzzle break?

[last spindle]

in the interest of transparency, it is a shared project, so im not exactly sure what was used as the base before it was given to me, but im sure it was a variant of AKM

[quick terrace]

yeah, no worries, is just that the base model has slight innacuracies, noticeble only if you really look for these, and only by someone who knows AKs (used own and modelled some)

[last spindle]

yeah that is what im trying to iron out of it now

[quick terrace]

want a quick list?

[stuck oyster]

depends on the rvmat used

[stuck oyster]

roadway lod in the p3d

[stuck oyster]

its not really documented process so it is a bit difficult.

[opaque jolt]

Is there an example in samples?

[green wasp]

Yeah I've been searching online but there's only vague snippets I can find

[stuck oyster]

it expects understanding of how the game config works and how the arma models work so the process of importing something else that is maybe simpler or more documented can be derived to the subject of a new head

[quick terrace]

1. sight leaf (the dents for adjusting zeroing are on the left side, and only on the left side)
2. front sight, not sure what that is, but it is something closer to AK74 than AKM
3. muzzle break is needs aditional details, grooves and ridges. It is also too wide and the barrell cleaning rod is to short
4. the space between the sights group (the leaf sight part) and the gas tube is too long

just checked the AK74 muzzle break doesn't fit on the AKM fillet, but it does on the AK103 (which is basically an AK74M with 7.62)

[foggy finch]

@last spindle wow awesome work

[wheat shoal]

First time modelling a character and so far I've come out with this -

http://i.imgur.com/bd6z1nF.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/rRtVmUd.png

[last spindle]

ahahaha, im watching The Patriot right now while modelling, funny coincidence i guess

[obsidian sphinx]

Okay...I've discovered some interesting behaviour with my projects. The Zeus preview of the object looks fine, the icon gets placed where I want the item to be, and then it ends up offset and weirdly angled like it's trying to conform to some invisible shape. Now these just have the 0 LOD and no others, mostly because I'm not entirely sure how to organise those in Blender, would that be the reason for it or is it just because of the groundholder and there's nothing I can do about it?

[fervent steppe]

@gilded bane <<<I know about 99% that our models aren't ripped though, Because they are all Australian for one, and all purchased from Humster.

And the other 1%? That still doesn't make it ok. A ripped model is a ripped model. It still Doesn't make it ok if you make the other 99 models yourself.

[gilded bane]

I meant to say, I was 99% Sure haha not that 99% are ripped.

As they come, our models bare no resemblence to any other game I've seen ever.

But yeah, Sorry for the confusion.

[fervent steppe]

Oh

[gilded bane]

That's a bit of a lie actually, Our models are from a modded LCPD:FR Community hosted out of New Zealand (NZ Virtual I think it is?), Their team makes the models more 'game friendly' from what I can tell. But the original source of the vehicles is in fact Humster.

The Models were given to us to support our project, from the very kind crew over there. They've sunk a lot of money into their project and were kind enough to let us have em free of charge

[dusk frost]

in terms of the blender addons for this, which of "Arma: Toolbox" or "Arma 3 Object Builder" is more recent?

[marsh canyon]

I believe OB is

[dusk frost]

ty

[foggy finch]

I'd be careful with which models your using, whether they'd sunk a lot of time/effort/money into thier project or not, some of the credits in some of the vehicle mods they have clearly state that items such as vehicle interiors were taken from other IP and edited to fit the model

[cunning temple]

OB also has some checks it lets you run, which is helpful for us noobs lol

Also has video guides https://www.youtube.com/@mrcmodding/videos

[woeful viper]

"we are totally legit" ... yeah i heard that before. Nice try

[fervent steppe]

Lol

[woeful viper]

i wish there was a way to flag life people and their kind, so that you know when to ask for paycheck for your advise

[fervent steppe]

Hehe

[wraith tendon]

ey @woeful viper Thats rude! I want some exceptions 😛

[crimson zodiac]

Hey guys, is there any way to add gloves to a certain uniform? (More specifically the Rangemaster uniform)

[umbral shuttle]

do helmets need geo lod?

and is an empty geo lod the same as not having a geo lod?

[charred bolt]

Sample headgear has a Geo LOD but it's empty. Can't comment on whether that's correct or not. Even if not used for collision/fire geo, it may be needed for the LOD properties (autcenter, prefershadowvolume).

[umbral shuttle]

ah okay, if I dont have autocenter property, what is the assumed value?

[charred bolt]

You will need to put autocenter = 0, as is required for proxies too.
But don't use autocenter = anything else, including 1, on any other p3d's. It's a horrible mess.

[umbral shuttle]

ah okay, is there a case where I should do = 1 outside of proxies?

props maybe?

[charred bolt]

Answered in my previous post

[umbral shuttle]

okay so no use case wats so ever for autocenter 1 cool, I might have accidently use that in the past and spent time wondering why something was off

very cool ty

[rapid tree]

Hello i have a question.

Is it possible to hide/show sections for a weapon using animationsource in config, like you could do with vehicles

For example im trying to have a weapon with foregrip and withoit foregrip, but i dont want them to be a separate p3d. So id like the non-foregrip version to have the foregrip hidden via animationsource in config with a diffrent handanim assigned

[south badge]

Is there any animationSource for the vanilla vehicle smoke launcher?

[indigo mountain]

It's scripted so I'd assume no

[stuck oyster]

no

you need different models

(too many variants is a thing)

[rapid tree]

alright thanks

[indigo mountain]

RHS does theirs by just having two versions of the weapon that are swapped with a script.

So you have gun A, but when you attach a grip (bipod attachment) to it, it gets replaced with gun B instead with a different handanim

[obtuse rain]

Maybe by doing a dodgy with some other uniform item (e.g. headgear that adds gloves). But there's no clean way.

[fluid copper]

Is there a limit to how many tris the model viewer can handle? I have an object with 200k and opening the model viewer causes Object Builder to crash and the model never loads

I get an error window but I cant find where the logs are dumped for it

[stuck oyster]

thats around the limits yeah

[charred bolt]

Somewhere around 120-150k usually

If you're working on a big model that gets cut down (optimised) later, but want to check textures/animations as you go, copy/paste parts of it into an Edit LOD with less polys, and open buldozer with that.

[oblique vapor]

Hello guys ! Anyone else has their models compiled with Type 70 using pboProject and not being useable in-game ?

[civic stratus]

Morning all

Was hoping someone would know something about getting lamps to work on a binarized map

my geometry lod has the class value streetlamp in the geo lod's named properties

the light works in game, but not after placed on a map and binarized

my light inherits Lamps_base_F

i dont have a model.cfg for it, as there are no animations

config: http://pastebin.com/raw/HseqMpER

[foggy finch]

try geo class=housesimulated

streetlamp = a2

[oblique vapor]

I'm the only having Type 70 .p3d compiling problems ?

[foggy finch]

you can define points in a hitpoint LOD and put them in the cfgmodels in a model cfg, if you want your lights shootable

Sam, no just had those too

are you using dev branch tools?

[oblique vapor]

Yes

I'm using Mikero Tools

[foggy finch]

switch back to regular and try

arma 3 tools dev branch?

[oblique vapor]

Yes

[foggy finch]

switch back to stable and try it

[oblique vapor]

Thanks

Did it work for you ?

[foggy finch]

they pushed new p3d types to dev branch, which I believe will only work with new rc candidate

nope still switching branches

😄

[oblique vapor]

lol

Only have 16 Mb download for the regular branch

[foggy finch]

yeah

im updating my dev branch a3 though 😄

stable tools fixes this issue apparently

just asked in a3 terrain skype group

[oblique vapor]

Glad to hear it, it came out of nowhere and got stuck

Gonna test it

Yep, it works fine.

Thanks @foggy finch !

[foggy finch]

np

[oblique vapor]

Does anyone know how to remove the flash effect from a weapon ? Not talking about the muzzleflash, talking about the emitting light. A weapon that doesn't use bullets and emmits light is pretty odd

[fervent steppe]

@foggy finch what the heck is Streetlamp=a2 ?

[civic stratus]

i think he was trying to say the property was for arma2

[foggy finch]

yeah

😄

[civic stratus]

Thanks Uro

works

[foggy finch]

cool 😃 afaik housesimulated only works for light animation types, havent got round to testing with anything more yet

[civic stratus]

How can I get show textures to work in objectbuilder?

does the format matter?

[fervent steppe]

I believe they need to be tga

[civic stratus]

yeah, just verified that

[carmine gull]

so then a PAA has to be converted to TGA if I wanted the model to appear textured in OB and not just as a grayscale thing with Buldozer needed for viewing the texture

[civic stratus]

yeah

ive been going back and forth between my buldozer and my uv editor to get a brick wall the right size

its been 2 days of hell

[fervent steppe]

Why not view it in buldozer?

[civic stratus]

i mean I do, but not having to rely on it is great

too much screen space 😛

[foggy finch]

get more screens 😄

or dont texture in OB you masichist

[lofty comet]

Hello,

I’m having an issue with a custom Arma 3 headgear addon.

The helmet works locally – I can see it on my character, it appears correctly in Arsenal, and there are no errors on my side.
However, other players cannot see the helmet and is white for them

[thorn geyser]

Lol :joy:

[fervent steppe]

I have three screens. Had 5 but it was too many and I didn't feel like buying that big monitor stand for them

[foggy finch]

have 2, need 3rd, but need new gfx card first

matrox just premiered a card that can do 9 screens, any configuration, can double em up for more prformance

😄

[fervent steppe]

Wow

[subtle bison]

does anyone know if MarkerLight animation source reacts to blinking lights?

[foggy finch]

meant more for tv walls for cctv / multi-screen enviroments like news rooms etc

[fervent steppe]

I have the 980gtx.

Yea

[foggy finch]

i still have my 650ti boost sc

😄

wanna get a 900 series but next gen is round the corner so ill wait

[fervent steppe]

Yea at this point hold out a little longer

My buddy just built a pc. Two 980s in sli

I am a little jealous lol

[foggy finch]

got everything else in my pc souped up, next step after new gfx with be a refresh of mobo/ram

[fervent steppe]

If I didn't have kids and a wife 😃

[foggy finch]

yeah a friend of mine just had a triple 980, liquid cooled system

[fervent steppe]

Wow

[foggy finch]

purely for vr and playing ED

cost him like 3k

crazy fool could have built it for half that

[fervent steppe]

Yea I had a liquid cooled everything before. It was a pita. Now I only liquid cool my cpu with the closed loop htc system

[foggy finch]

yeah I have a hydro for cpu, 4770k sitting at 4.2ghz without burning it up

[fervent steppe]

I had two video card liquid cooled and my cpu and the north bridge.

[foggy finch]

lol

[fervent steppe]

But the thermaltake system kept needing the liquid added every so many months. It was annoying

Tho it did keep everything very cooll

[foggy finch]

my house has air reciruclation, have my air exhausts next to the intake for that, why waste energy huh? 😄

[fervent steppe]

I don't think the thing went over 38 under load

[foggy finch]

yeah the corsair hydro keeps my cpu and case temps way low

and a side-effect is probably dropping the ambient air temps to my gpu

[fervent steppe]

Meant 28

Not 38

[foggy finch]

and cooler and you could chill your beer on it 😛

[fervent steppe]

Lol

I remember seeing a video way back when of Intel liquid cooling a 10ghz cpu

[foggy finch]

hehe

[fervent steppe]

With nitrogen

[foggy finch]

yeah

[fervent steppe]

Was pretty cool

[foggy finch]

the extreme oc people use nitro

I dont know about you but seeing lumps of ice over a mobo wouldnt make me keep to use it

[fervent steppe]

Yea. That's too much. I liquid cool my stuff but I really don't overclock it

For the extra 5fps I really don't see much of a point

[foggy finch]

I just oc'd my cpu because arma

[fervent steppe]

Now on the cooling factor...the cooler you keep it the longer it will last

[foggy finch]

true

have house temps locked in at ~21c, pc is sitting at 33c atm, no cpu load atm, goes colder with load 😄

(I set the fans to go batshit crazy under load)

[fervent steppe]

Hehe

[foggy finch]

worst side effect of that is noise

which aint too bad with the hydro

[fervent steppe]

Yea video card make a ton of noise lol

[charred bolt]

Yes they do. Used them on aircraft for anti-collision lights.

[subtle bison]

hm. only on vehicles? I tried to use it on a static / house, but couldn't get it to work

[charred bolt]

Only vehicles as far as I know.

[subtle bison]

oh well

I tried to fake it with an animation.. Just move it underground 😄 but you would see the transition. not great

[charred bolt]

Although just found class Land_BuoyBig_F which has a blinking MarkerLights

[subtle bison]

with glow plane?

[charred bolt]

You mean an emissive? No idea, didn't look at the model, just the config.

[subtle bison]

yeah, it has. i just checked ingame. will investigate further

this is exactly what i need

ok, i see why

simulation = "shipX";

[charred bolt]

Invoice to the usual address? 😉

[subtle bison]

not sure if it's good to make the object a ship

not sure if it'll hurt the game tho

[charred bolt]

Usual thinking is that if BI do it, we can do it - under similar circumstances and scales

It might be shipx because it has to float too

[north sundial]

I made blinking lights work on a static object

1 mo

[subtle bison]

let's make a copy of the config and turn it into a different thing

[charred bolt]

            {
                class Light_1_source
                {
                    source = "MarkerLight";
                    markerLight = "Light_1";
                };
            };            
            class MarkerLights
            {
                class Light_1
                {
                    color[] = {1, 1, 1};
                    ambient[] = {0.01, 0.01, 0.01};
                    intensity = 1000;
                    name = "Light_1_pos";
                    blinking = 1;
                    blinkingPattern[] = {0.25, 1};
                    blinkingPatternGuarantee = 1;
                    useFlare = 1;
                    flareSize = 1.5;
                    flareMaxDistance = 1500;
                    activeLight = 1;
                    dayLight = 0;
                    drawLight = 0;
                    class Attenuation
                    {
                        start = 0;
                        constant = 0;
                        linear = 10;
                        quadratic = 60;
                        hardLimitStart = 3;
                        hardLimitEnd = 4;
                    };
                };
            };```

[north sundial]

https://gyazo.com/e6c654fdcf587f450cb722d8d7079e21

Just getting the code

[subtle bison]

ok yeah. house buoy also works. so the issue must be on my side.

[north sundial]

class AnimationSources
{
class Lights_1_source
{
source = "MarkerLight";
markerLight = "MarkerLight_1"; // must match name in MarkerLights{}
};
};
aggregateReflectors[] = {{"MarkerLight_1","MarkerLight_2","MarkerLight_3"}};
class MarkerLights
{
class MarkerLight_1
{
color[] = {1.0,0.0,0.0};
ambient[] = {0.01,0.0,0.0};
intensity = 1000;
name = "MarkerLight_1_pos";
useFlare = 1;
flareSize = 0.2;
flareMaxDistance = 100;
activeLight = 1;
blinking = 1;
blinkingStartsOn = 0;
blinkingPattern[] = {0.5,1.5};
blinkingPatternGuarantee = 1;
dayLight = 1;
drawLight = 0;
class Attenuation
{
start = 0;
constant = 10;
linear = 6;
quadratic = 4;
hardLimitStart = 12;
hardLimitEnd = 15;
};
};
class MarkerLight_2: MarkerLight_1
{
name = "MarkerLight_2_pos";
};
class MarkerLight_3: MarkerLight_1
{
name = "MarkerLight_3_pos";
flareSize = 0.1;
blinking = 0;
dayLight = 0;
};
};

Can’t quite do the formatting on my phone

But hopefully it helps

[subtle bison]

alright. as usual the issue was something really stupid. i didn't know that i need to define a source animation in class animationsources

thanks for the pointers

[north sundial]

You’re welcome

🙂

[wheat shoal]

should I bake my AO into my diffuse or use the AS in super shader instead?

[woeful viper]

matter of preference, one does not prevent the other

[dusty basalt]

Hey all, how detailed are your shadow volumes? Im making a weapon attachment and Im wondering how detailed it should be

[obtuse rain]

If you bake it purely into the ambient shadow map things tend to look flat when there is no ambient (e.g., night).

If you use an _ads instead of an _as you can use the blue channel to modulate the diffuse light, too.

The non-specular lighting in super shader is basically (ambient_light * _ads.green + diffuse_light * _ads.blue) * _co

[stuck oyster]

Simple box for simple thing like that

[steep crest]

Is it possible to make a car fly by creating a config that mirrors the sample but referencing a car model? I can make the vehicle make noise, but there is no thrust or turning. Does the model need specific named memory points or accurate aerodynamics?

*the plane sample

[winged basin]

How can I make sure a weapon model is properly aligned with an animation and has the proper scale? Couldn't find an RTM import option in blender and I'm a dummy with Object Builder

[marsh canyon]

If you done it properly, it is usually aligned already. At this point, what is "not aligned" you mean

[winged basin]

Model position is off in relation to the character's hand

Too further back and a bit to the right

I mostly did the scale and position by guesstimating, but it didn't work that well

[marsh canyon]

How do you make handanim?

[winged basin]

It's a revolver, so I'm just using the vanilla ones for now

I used the sample weapon to try and align the grip, but failed to realize the sample being a rifle would be aligned for the rifle HandAnim

[marsh canyon]

So... you are making a handanim for a pistol?

[winged basin]

Making a weapon and failing to align it with the animation

But I'm not really sure how to load the rtm to make sure the scale and position of the model are correct

[marsh canyon]

I expected a yes or no, I assume yes

HandAnim for pistol is a very very special case and you cannot expect it to work very precisely

You need to align the model to the right spot, via just adjusting the position of the model

Instead of struggle to make a pistol handanim

If you cannot adjust the weapon model pos, make sure you have autocenter 0

[winged basin]

Sorry, bit late so my brain is running on fumes
Im not trying to make an anim, but instead trying to load the anim I'm using so I can figure out where to position the model

Unless there is a better way to know where to correctly line the model with the anim

[marsh canyon]

Well I miswrote here so disregard handanim part of this post

Pistol is glued to right hand

And if you edit P3D, pack PBO, relaunch Arma, test as the current workflow, yes there is a better workflow

Check my pinned post about it

[winged basin]

I'll give it a try, thank you

[stuck oyster]

Due to the mentioned pistol being glued to the right hand it always moves with it. In comparison with the weapon and launcher that are free moving and can be animated more freely.

We might have the pistol distance offset mentioned somewhere in the discord history here

[plain star]

idk if this is a model or a texture thing but ... anyone know why there is no shadow on the zulu? the shadow LOD is casting on the ground an everything else but no shadow in itself

[stuck oyster]

likely texture/material thing

[plain star]

thank you... ill repost there

[winged basin]

Couldn't find the offset value, but I got it lined up well enough by loading a vanilla pistol into blender and using that as a ref

[civic stratus]

memory points im assuming yes

aerodynamics, I laugh at the thought

[south badge]

Uhm, if I´d technically have an FFV player turret inside a closed vehicle with the option to open/close a small hatch to shoot through would I run into issues with the weapon colliding with the interior walls of the vehicle?

The hatch is quite small, so the angles for the player to shoot through would be very limited, so I am wondering if this is something even worth pursuing or whether it would just be too much trouble? As in if it would cause the player´s weapon to clip through the vehicle or something.

Per default the player would also have to be sitting facing forwards, and in order to shoot he´d have to rotate 90 degrees to the side.

[charred bolt]

Use class Turnin and class TurnOut to limit the range in which the player can point and fire his weapon.
Example

{
    limitsArrayTop[] = {{8.9375, -94.3700}, {24.1614, -58.1521}, {30.6118, 10.1725}, {18.2058, 62.2316}};
    limitsArrayBottom[] = {{-13.1616, -87.0410}, {-12.6736, -63.0200}, {-15.6524, 35.1051}, {-14.0015, 54.2137}};
};
class TurnOut: TurnIn {};```
Use this to get the coordinates:
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/diag_recordTurretLimits

[south badge]

[tacit karma]

Does anyone know how to fix this?

http://abload.de/img/2016-02-0710_44_53-novnuht.jpg

[rapid tree]

@charred bolt Sorry for the ping, but i know you are very good with vehicles

Do i really have to adjust the Geometry weights for a car to go faster or does it work with some config parameters ?

[charred bolt]

Set the Geometry LOD mass to the correct value (kg).
No wheels or any other components in the wheels position in the Geometry Phys LOD.
maxSpeed
enginePower
peakTorque
engineMOI
dampingRateFullThrottle
torqueCurve[]
gearboxRatios[]
transmissionRatios[]
dampingRate (set to 1 for carx)

[rapid tree]

Thank you very much Apollo

[oblique vapor]

@tacit karma Overlapping UVs ?

[tacit karma]

no, wrong normal directiom

[oblique vapor]

Have you checked your smoothing groups ?

[white jay]

@gilded bane "I know about 99% that our models aren't ripped though, Because they are all Australian for one, and all purchased from Humster.
Given to us from a very very nice GTA IV community ♥♥ " This is where my problems started. My original models were to come from a GTA IV community - Double doppler. But there is no saying where they got the models from

[woeful viper]

@tacit karma Could be a cage error.

[fervent steppe]

<<<Is it possible to make a car fly by creating a config that mirrors the sample but referencing a car model? I can make the vehicle make noise, but there is no thrust or turning. Does the model need specific named memory points or accurate aerodynamics?

Sure I made a crane drive able with no wheels just by defining where they should be

[woeful viper]

@tacit karma did you triangulate before using push modifiers for the cage? If you have n-gons this can happen very quickly

[tacit karma]

As said, wrong normal direct 😉

[woeful viper]

so you fixed it now?

[quick terrace]

he did yes

[tacit karma]

http://abload.de/img/screen01w9j26.png
http://abload.de/img/screen027fj0a.png

[bright elbow]

Any idea where I could find documentation on creating a helicopter mod in arma 3 after it's been modeled and rigged in another software?

[stuck oyster]

You wont find straight documentation for that specifically

you should start practice implementation from something simpler

just basic mod structure to get simple config built

first simple object into game

etc

[bright elbow]

model.cfg?

[stuck oyster]

that is part of the process yes

but not the first thing you need to learn

[bright elbow]

I might've done something similar when I made a faction mod. But I used drongo's config generator.

[stuck oyster]

well youll have to still learn config properly without generators

[bright elbow]

So, I make a p3d file for a 3d model and make a config that references it?

nvm I found a guide

[stuck oyster]

there are arma3 samples on steam you can use as reference

the contain most of basic parts you would need

helicotper just is one of the most complex vehicles you could make which is why I recommend doing smaller steps first

[pallid nexus]

@reef gate
Two things you can try to fix your model
Add the Triangulate modifier to everything in Blender, that way the model getting exported is already triangulated
The 3d print toolbox addon (https://extensions.blender.org/add-ons/print3d-toolbox/) has some checking tools that could help with the non-contiguous issues (and a make manifold tool that might help)

This is an iso-sphere with 2 edges split, found the split edges fine

And can select the non-manifold elements

[reef gate]

I don’t understand what’s an ngon though

Like I remodelled it so many times

And it’s still throwing up error messages

[pallid nexus]

Someplace there's a polygon with 5 or more edges (or 4 or more, depending on the LOD, some need strict triangulation)
The Triangulate modifier will just make everything triangles non-destructively

Select by trait, using edge count > 3 should find any non-triangles
Same thing for finding non-quad n-gons

[reef gate]

I have

Multiple times

Alls good

Object builder isn’t letting me export it

Please take a look yourself

[pallid nexus]

Checked the model from #arma3_config
You need to re-read the requirements for the LODs
Fire Geometry and Geometry are bit of a mess and need remaking
Probably the same for Geometry PhysX
Both need to be closed and convex https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/LOD#Geometry
If it can't be convex, then it needs to be broken into components
Possibly more work is required as well

[pallid nexus]

Was already looking :)

This is the output from the Object Builder validation on the Geometry LOD

Validating Geometry
        Warnings are errors
        RULESET: LOD - Generic
                ERROR: mesh has n-gons
        RULESET: LOD - Geometry subtype
                ERROR: mesh is not contiguous
                ERROR: mesh has no component selections
                ERROR: mesh is not convex
                WARNING: mesh is not triangulated (convexity is not definite)
        Validation FAILED

The model has issues
Largely looks decent, but the LODs need work
You are also missing a few LODs for final export
ShadowVolume in particular
I can't check the proxies, since I haven't done enough with them myself to know if it's right

[reef gate]

I just want to get it in game

And fix it from there

I’ve been trying for like a year

[pallid nexus]

It's close
For the Geometry LODs, you can either fit simple blocks around it, or break it into nearly convex pieces and convex hull each piece
Fire Geometry is for bullet impacts
Geometry is for regular collisions
Geometry PhysX is for PhysX collisions

ShadowVolume just needs to be complicated enough for the silhouette

The point clouds and memory points probably need some work, but I've done very little and can't help much with those

Here's HorribleGoat's explanation of the Geo LODs
#arma3_model message

[reef gate]

Why isn’t the resolution LOD exporting either?

I know I’ve done the fire geo correctly

What does it mean by convex pieces?

[pallid nexus]

No hollows,
Every line between two points on the surface is completely inside the model
The overall model you have is definitely not convex
The convex hull tool in the mesh tools can give you an idea of what's convex and what's not

[reef gate]

I’m still kinda confused

Wdym inside the model?

[pallid nexus]

Basically this in 3 dimensions: https://mathworld.wolfram.com/Convex.html

This might help a bit
Just a simple example of the convex and concave triangulation of a quad that isn't flat

Both objects have appropriate names

[cunning ibex]

Is there any way to make the launcher's missiles lock on to the infantry?

[uneven nexus]

Greetings, Does anyone have any good tutorials for implementing a custom helmet into ARMA 3?

[plush trail]

question how to have all 4 views on at the same time

similar to this

so far I managed to get two

[stuck oyster]

Window menu on top toolbar

[plush trail]

thanks

I found the KS-23 model and try to use it

it's CC Attribution

[runic plover]

F9

[tacit karma]

http://abload.de/img/rhs_promo_perst1iknbpm7.jpg (The barrel mount was stolen from Pufu)

[leaden tapir]

p3d

[woeful viper]

that a laser?

[copper hull]

Hi everyone,
Does anyone know how to import a simple prefabricated 3D model from Blender into Arma 3? It would just be a basic decorative object, no colors or textures needed.
For example, a sofa, even if it just appears white.

[copper hull]

Then, in the game, I want to spawn it from the yellow Eden Editor icon as a prop.

In short, I just want to learn how to import an FBX object from Blender into Arma 3, even if it’s just the default cube that appears when you start Blender.

I want to transfer this from Blender to Arma 3.

Thanks to everyone.

[north sundial]

@gleaming tusk did a tutorial for that exact thing https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dS4jfLNckos

I’m sure there are others on YouTube too

[copper hull]

Thanks very much

[short marsh]

Hi, I'm trying to get my glass on my helicopters to break and stuff, especially when it's shot at, and when I slam it too hard on the ground. I see the stock helos do it, and thought I had a way to do it, but any guidance on what I have to do to setup the model (I have it in the config already) so it can break and the like.

In essence I want them to react like the stock helos.

[short marsh]

I got no help from the Arma 3 Sample Test Heli so that's why I'm asking

[reef gate]

From what I could tell it’s a damage state for the hull

Typically just the texture is changed

But I think you can have a different model

[short marsh]

Uh huh

[reef gate]

I know one of the Vietnam bombers in prairie fire does it

[short marsh]

Yeah but do I set it up in the model, or specify which glass is which in the Fire Geometry?

Like in the 0.00 LOD I have it the same as the Fire Geometry?

[reef gate]

That’s a hitpoint thing

I’m pretty sure

[short marsh]

Okay

[reef gate]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Hitpoints

https://pmc.editing.wiki/doku.php?id=arma:modeling:glass_damage

[short marsh]

Okay thanks, I'll go over this stuff then

[charred bolt]

LOD 0 / View Cargo / View Pilot
Name the glass mesh example glass1
Also give it a second selection name hit_glass1
Assign a material yourVehicle_glass.rvmat

HitPoints LOD
Place one or two hitpoints spaced across the centre of the glass. Name them hit_glass1_point

Fire Geometry LOD
Make a piece of mesh for the window (closed, convex, named ComponentX)
Give it a glass penetration material (rvmat)
Name it glass1
Also name it hit_glass1

In Config.cpp

{
    class hitGlass1
    {
        source = "Hit";
        hitpoint = "hitGlass1";
        raw = 1;
    };
};```
```class HitPoints: HitPoints
{
    class hitGlass1
    {
        armor = 0.2;
        armorComponent = "hit_glass1";
        explosionShielding = 2;
        material = -1;
        minimalHit = 0;
        name = "hit_glass1_point";
        radius = 0.20;
        passThrough = 0;
        visual = "hit_glass1";
    };
};```
```class Damage
{
    tex[] = {};
    mat[] =
    {
        "yourTag\vehicle\data\yourVehicle_glass.rvmat",
        "yourTag\vehicle\data\yourVehicle_glass_damage.rvmat",
        "yourTag\vehicle\data\yourVehicle_glass_damage.rvmat"
    };
};```

**In model.cfg**
```skeletonBones[] = 
{
   "glass1",    ""
};```

```sections[] =
{
   "hit_glass1"
};```

```class glass1_hide
{
    source = "hitGlass1";
    type = "hide";
    selection = "glass1";
    minValue = 0;
    maxValue = 1;
    hideValue = 0.99;
};```

[charred bolt]

See post above...

The glass will tinkle when hit (Fire Geometry material).
It will take damage when bullets penetrate or from indirect sources (Hitpoint LOD and class Hitpoints).
When it reaches 50% damage level, it's material will swap from yourVehicle_glass.rvmat to yourVehicle_glass_damage.rvmat (class Damage) using the section hit_glass1.
At 99% damage it will disappear (hitGlass animationSource, feeds into model.cfg hide animation glass1_hide acting on skeleton bone glass1)

[short marsh]

Got it all, thanks muchly for this

[short marsh]

Gotcha

[short marsh]

Does this go in the helicopter's entry in the model.cfg. or the animations for the general stuff?

{
    source = "hitGlass1";
    type = "hide";
    selection = "glass1";
    minValue = 0;
    maxValue = 1;
    hideValue = 0.99;
};```

[charred bolt]

I'm not sure what "general stuff" is.
Your skeleton and animations for the helicopter need to go inside the helicopter class.

[short marsh]

The "general stuff is like the animations that are "outside" of the individual helicopter's animations, such as this area:

    ```class ej_Helicopter: Vehicle
    {

            htMin = 60;
            htMax = 1800;
            afMax = 200;
            mfMax = 100;
            mFact = 0; 
            tBody = 0;  ```

[charred bolt]

None of that thermal code should be in the model.cfg file at all. It belongs in config.cpp. BI made an error with this and everyone blindly copies it.

[short marsh]

Okay whatever, but that area is where I should put the above class glass_1_hide though right?

I'll rectify the thermal stuff later on

[charred bolt]

Before answering that, do you know what is meant by "class inheritance"?

[short marsh]

Yes

I just need to know where to put it

[charred bolt]

Well I have already answered that question, but more widely, your question doesn't really make sense.

[short marsh]

Okay thanks

[charred bolt]

If by placing it in this other place, it does not get inherited into your helicopter, then no, it's incorrect.
If you are setting it up, so that it will be inherited, then it doesn't matter, and it can go either place.

But unless you are working on multiple helicopters, it's making the model.cfg needlessly complex.

[short marsh]

Okay'

I do have multiple helicopters, so I'm making it complex then

Needlessly apparently

But appreciated

[charred bolt]

Yes, almost certainly needlessly more complex than it should be, usually due to misunderstanding of how class inheritance works, particularly in model.cfg.

[short marsh]

Okay

[charred bolt]

For example, if you have 2 helicopters that share some animations, the simplest is

class my_first_helicopter: my_helicopter_base {first helicopter skeleton & anims};
class my_second_helicopter: my_helicopter_base {second helicopter skeleton & anims};```
All this extra `default`, `vehicle`, `helicopter` etc classes do nothing for you.

[short marsh]

Okay

[charred bolt]

Obviously I've paraphrased code, it can't just be cut and paste.

[short marsh]

Right

[stuck oyster]

model.cfg inheritance does not always like changes later on.

for example you cant change skeleton bone parents if they are inherited

[short marsh]

Uh huh

[stuck oyster]

well good luck then

[short marsh]

Thanks'

[charred bolt]

So when you ask which class should the glass animation go in, it's either my_helicopter_base if it's shared, or one of the other two if specific. But in no instance would it be fully outside of helicopter (or it's inheritance) as then it would do nothing.

[short marsh]

I see, that makes more sense now

I didn't know you could cut some stuff out though, would clean up my .cfg a bit

[charred bolt]

You generally can't cut things out (as in delete inherited things) as HG just said. But if they occur in multiple places you can move them to a single prior base class so that they are inherited later on.

[short marsh]

Okay

Thanks

[sour bough]

For pylons:
So far, I've had to hide each individual munition with an animation source (ammo or revolving, same deal). Using eliteness to look at vanilla ones, I don't see that animation source or even a model.cfg binned into the P3d. Is there something I'm missing to make the missiles hide properly? They're proxied like the vanilla ones.

[bright echo]

vanilla has them like missile pods/racks

so the missiles are a proxy inside the missile pod proxy

to give an example

class CfgNonAIVehicles
{
    class ProxyWeapon;

    class ProxySPE_T27_Dummy: ProxyWeapon
    {
        model = "\WW2\SPE_Assets_m\Vehicles\Misc_m\SPE_T27_Dummy.p3d";
        simulation = "pylonpod";
    };
    class ProxySPE_M8_Loaded: ProxyWeapon
    {
        model = "\WW2\SPE_Assets_m\Vehicles\Misc_m\SPE_M8_Loaded.p3d";
        simulation = "maverickweapon";
    };
};

T27_Dummy is the rocket pod/rack

and m8_loaded is the actual rocket

doing it this way means the rocket/missile/whatever will 'launch' from the sub-proxy position too

as a result you dont need to hide them with animations as the proxy just becomes empty

[sour bough]

I'll try that, thanks!

My 32-munition pylons for a bomb bay thank you o7

[bright echo]

it can be a bit of trial and error it look awhile for me to get them to work had a lot of invisible rockets etc

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Vehicle_Loadouts this is also missing a lot of proper info for like the cfgammo side of things

like proxyShape needs to be the model you want to use

and i think needs to be defined in nonaivehicles

hmm, no only if you use them in the model they need to be defined there

[sour bough]

Yeah the stuff I have works but the hiding and whatnot needed to be done stupidly

This should just be a config change

inshallah we will carpet bomb them with hand grenades

pylon weapon proxying in the regular hand grenade onto a quad rack in rows would go so hard

[indigo mountain]

Not arma specific (but will be for arma) but running into an issue with a subdivide modifier creating these weird edges
Turned the subdivide up to 5 to really show it

[stuck oyster]

maybe loose geometry in there

try select vertices in that area and use merge nearest

[indigo mountain]

I did, it had cleaned up some areas but those ones still remained

[stuck oyster]

maybe there is some face inside

that connects all of those parts

there isnt really any other option but open edges/unwelded vertices

or some hidden/unseen face that connects all the not working bits

[indigo mountain]

If I only delete faces I do have the extra part in the bottom left, would that point to an extra face?

When selecting all the faces I don't see anything extra

[stuck oyster]

does the thing also have internal surface?

try turn backface culling on

or the face direction setting

[indigo mountain]

Yeah its faces that are going the wrong way

[stuck oyster]

this is a problem yeah

youll want to recalculate that

[indigo mountain]

Should they be all blue or red, not sure which color is inside or out

[stuck oyster]

blue is front of a face

red backface

and backface typically is not rendered in games

Arma 3 included

[quick terrace]

yes

[oblique vapor]

Does anyone know how to remove the light effect from a weapon ? Like not the actual muzzleFlash, but the emitted light.

[quick terrace]

not sure but i would look at the way thr muzzle flash is done and defined

the proxy^

[oblique vapor]

I found this: laserMuzzleIntensity = 0; but doesn't seem to work

Well, looks like fireLightIntensity = 0; fixed it !

[short marsh]

I've had this issue with my Formation Lights on my helicopters. It works, so there's no need to worry about that, but the issue since 2.20 or 2.18 is that they only work in the daytime. What I'm asking is what should I put for code in the model.cfg so it works only in the night, since currently it works as intended in the daytime, and not the night, where it is more practical for it to work, for player usability and such. Here is the code I'm using right now. What change do I need to make to make it work at night, like it's supposed to?

        ```class FormationLights : Rotation
        {
            type="hide";
            source="user";
            selection="Lights_green";
            minValue = 0.0;
            maxValue = 1.0;
            HideValue = 0.5;
        };```

[charred bolt]

Formation lights for helicopters should be handled by config code and memory points
class MarkerLights

Any way, assuming you want to ignore that and do it your way,
first off, why are you inheriting from a "rotation" class? Get rid of that, it does nothing.
Second, selection = "lights_green"; implies perhaps an emissive mesh face that will be hidden, as hiding Class Reflectors only moves them to the model origin.
Third, the source = user; implies that you have an animationSource set-up in config.cpp called user, which I don't expect you do.
You have several choices for manual or semi-auto hiding of emissive mesh faces:

1. userAction manually switching a config animationSource
2. assign the emissive to podsvit pristroju which would be hidden when the engine is off or in the day (selectionDashboard = "podsvit pristroju";)

[short marsh]

Okay yeah it's an Animation Source selected by the scroll wheel if that helps.

So in essence I do have a selection that is enabled/disabled by the scroll wheel menu

[charred bolt]

What is the selection? Is it an emissive mesh face?

[short marsh]

Yeah, it's just a geometry that has the face for the lights

On top of the non-emissive color

So in the named selections, I would use podsvit pristroju?

[charred bolt]

{
    class lights_green_hide
    {
        source = "user";
        animPeriod = 0.001;
        initPhase = 0;
    };
};```

A UserAction class which allows the player to switch on the light  (set `lights_green_hide` to phase 1)

```class lights_green_hide
{
   type = "hide";
   source = "user";
   selection = "lights_green";
   minValue = 0.0;
   maxValue = 1.0;
   hideValue = 1;
};```
and `lights_green` set up as a bone in skeletons

[short marsh]

Okay

Okay

[charred bolt]

That will be fully manual, irrespective of day or night.

[short marsh]

Nice

[charred bolt]

But you'll get much better results with class MarkerLights.

[short marsh]

Okay

[charred bolt]

Those emissives won't be visible at any decent distance and aren't actual light sources, whereas the marker lights are both clear and glowing. It's what they're designed for.

[short marsh]

Well they're more for close up seeing rather than bright flashing lights that you get with Collision Lights. It's more subdued but more tactical for night use, such as formation flying, not so much to show where you're at, like the regualar lights do

[charred bolt]

They might be ok for that, yes.

Assigning them to podsvit pristroju in Object Builder (and make sure that is also in model.cfg sections[] ) might work semi-autonomously at night with engine on, not requiring an animationSource, a UserAction or any bone/animation in model.cfg.

Depends if you want them manually switchable.

[short marsh]

I'll think on that, it's more for a player function rather than for AI, because the AI will normally have their own formation and such

[charred bolt]

It's nothing related to AI. Simply, formation lights come on automatically at night, or can be switched on/off by player manually.

[short marsh]

Oh okay

[flint vapor]

Hey guys and gals. If one was to get started making models and textures for Arma 3 where would you start? I have some loose understanding of digital sculpting but thats about it.

[stuck oyster]

forget arma and just focus on basic 3d techniques

modeling, uvmapping, texturing, highpoly/lowpoly baking

stuff like that

the arma specifics open up relatively easy once you have basics down

[flint vapor]

Where is a good place to start with all that for someone with absolutely no clue? lol

[stuck oyster]

get blender, look up basic blender tutorials on youtube

as part of learning using internet searching will be essential skill so best to work on that too

this is a complex but rewarding thing you want to learn so be ready to make mistakes and learn from them

[flint vapor]

Okie dokes

[cedar garden]

Is there a way to get translationY to go down/negative values? I've tried a few different options, but using negative values doesn't work.

[stuck oyster]

offset0 = 0 offset1 = -1

but typically its recommended to use "translation" type and use memorypoints to define the travel axis direction

[cedar garden]

I've tried using offset, didn't work for me

I could try switching to translation though

[low hedge]

Working on a vehicle, and weirdly enough the shadows only appear if two of the vehicle are visible/on screen at the same time, does anyone know this issue?

[stuck oyster]

you messed up shadow lod

probably have hiddenselections defined in it

make shadowlod properly

[low hedge]

ill give it a shot

yep, thanks boss

[marsh canyon]

Workthought, to be done after I'm home, and sanity check: is it possible to have shadow volume that does soft shadow, but zero visual LOD, so basically an invisible P3D that only cast softshadow?

[north sundial]

I don’t see why that wouldn’t work

[marsh canyon]

My point is basically I'm understanding that SV does only cast hardshadow, unless I miss something. Quick search about it suggests me visualex may do it, but it does seem to relevant with visual LOD

[charred bolt]

Visualex soft shadow is generated from the res LOD, so if res LOD is empty I'd expect no shadow. Have never tested to see if shadow dynamically changes as res LOD does though.

[marsh canyon]

It actually works fine. One sanity check more... can we have a shadow that casts less shadow? I guess that's a no, since I've never seen it before

Basically I'm trying to PoC'ing a smoke that casts shadow

It uses a noise texture for now, but doesn't look so nice anyways

[stuck oyster]

Dont think thats possible. As far as I can remember shadow cut is at 50% alpha and shadow is either on or off.

[bright echo]

i thougth I had seen transparency in the shadow lod of like a tree but I might be thinking of view geo

[stuck oyster]

Thats view geometry thing yeah

[plush forge]

@stuck oyster
Quick theory crafting, ever tried to make an automatic door for a building? Think there is even a way of feeding an appropriate condition to the useraction(?) class.

[stuck oyster]

@runic plover has made those a lot

in Tiberian Genesis

[stuck oyster]

but yes user action condition can work

[plush forge]

Interestingggg.

I was mostly guessing that appropriate code could go in the condition field for the user-action class. Not sure if there is anywhere else you could do it. But would sure be interested if there is a reliable way of getting something like that.

[round vault]

Anyone here able to help me figure out the basics to making custom shirts? i just want to add logos etc to uniforms i already have if thats possible any help or guidance is appreciated

[stuck oyster]

so what are your skills in this subject? if youhave uniforms already where are they from?

[round vault]

Im completely ignorant

like basically no knowledge i have slight knowledge of blender but nothing extreme

[round vault]

but i pick things up quickly which is nice but i just dont know where to start and the unis i have are from a mod

[stuck oyster]

you cant take someone elses models. thats the first thing to learn (unless explicit permission)

[round vault]

https://tenor.com/view/kid-mad-frustrated-huang4evr-gif-23515031

how much work is that gonna take to make a crye g3 LOL

just pants only im just trying to make custom shirts so the dudes have casuals to wear running houses etc

[stuck oyster]

from 0 knowing nothing.

few months

retexturing is possible if a mod is made for that

but that does not alter the model

and sometimes you just have to make do with what is already made

[round vault]

but if i cant steal how am i supposed to do that LMAO i just wanna retexture stuff

not trying to actually 3d model stuff as that would take me forever to even learn in the first place i just want to retexture a basic g3 uniform with a tshirt so i can put my own logos on the shirts etc to make personal stuff for my guys

[stuck oyster]

retexturing is done by painting new texture file and putting that and config that points the assets class to use the new texture into a mod

only the texture and config

you dont touch models in retexturing

and OF THE COURSE YOU **CAN NOT **STEAL

like wtf

[round vault]

hey man game is game

[stuck oyster]

!ban @round vault 0 wanting to steal models

[high scarab]

*PewPewPew!!*
RIP @round vault

[icy dirge]

Hey guys! i got this problem with my Door_1_trigger, i can open the door but when i wanna close it the action point doesn't show up..

[fervent steppe]

Code is probably wrong. Can you pastebin the config?

[icy dirge]

Sure 😄

http://pastebin.com/Wnnqfg60

[sullen jasper]

I have a question when my head is missing in game what should i do?

I tried to make a uniform but

missing head

[sullen jasper]

Nvm i got it

finally 2 days uniform will be ready

[fervent steppe]

http://pastebin.com/XNPc6KVD

[north sundial]

Missing the head proxy?

[icy dirge]

Thanks @fervent steppe got it working now! 😄

[fervent steppe]

Welcome

[coarse cairn]

Got a question regarding vehicle modelling. Is there a recommended vertices count that you should aim to stay under?

[stuck oyster]

it varies depending on the complexity of the vehicle and if there are interiors

lets say stay under 100k (triangles)

[coarse cairn]

Alright, thanks

[marsh canyon]

Though you can't see the polycount you can check how dense the poly on an object are

Using Dev-Branch's diag exe

[sullen jasper]

View pilot

[stuck oyster]

you would have to do retexturing

as in paint over the existing texture to add your details and the pack that new texture with new config into a new pbo

[fallow palm]

Hey guys do u guys happen to know what this error is when importing arma3 p3d to blender?

[stuck oyster]

it means you cant take binarized models

its model making not model taking

[fallow palm]

Right, if im trying to edit a model, what should i do to before i put it into blender?

[stuck oyster]

You cant edit a model

unless you have source file

which you dont have

[copper scarab]

What's the best way to weight paint in blender for A3 models? I've been scaling uniforms to the character sample and weight transferring but the shoulders/armpits always look jank as all heck

[gentle merlin]

By weight painting 😄

You have a brush - and multiple options for falloff, intensity, and application type

[copper scarab]

ewwwwww

Fair one though

[gentle merlin]

Make sure youre in weight paint mode and not edit mode

[copper scarab]

was hoping there was a quickfix but i'll just do it the normal way xD

[gentle merlin]

Yeeah there really isnt a shortcut without either addons or... well... you already tried data transfer

There is for example autorig plugin which has an auto weight that works much better than the built in auto weight, especially its voxel based variant, but that would still require setup and likely rearranging the bone orientations

But even then youll have to clean up 90% of the time - In short - weight painting is a bitch

[copper scarab]

I didn't mind it in 3DS, but maybe i'm just being biased

It's 4 bones per vertex in A3 right?

[gentle merlin]

I mean blender can do it the same way 3dsmax can in edit mode

[gentle merlin]

Err... i think its 3 actually

[copper scarab]

..

That explains alot

[gentle merlin]

Cant recall, been a while, but pretty sure its 3

[copper scarab]

Just trying to avoid this stuff ^

[gentle merlin]

Oh yah

Stick to 3 tbh, its also good practice not to oversaturate a vertex with bones

[copper scarab]

I'll give it another crack

ty ty

[gentle merlin]

💪

[tribal pivot]

How can I animate the door opening for sliding door like in the supermarket, where the door has two "wings"? I'm trying to set the max Value to negative value but this does not work.
class openMainDoor1 { type = "translationZ"; source = "openMainDoor"; selection = "door1"; memory = 0; minValue = 0; maxValue = 0.8; }; class openMainDoor2 { type = "translationZ"; source = "openMainDoor"; selection = "door2"; memory = 0; minValue = 0; maxValue = -0.8; };

[stuck oyster]

use translate and memorypoint axis to define the direction

also min max value is the animations playback value, not the translation distance

offest0 and offset1 are the values for distance

(wiki for model.cfg is recommended read)

[tribal pivot]

Yes, I'm jumping between sites and tried a lot of options but nothing stuck. I will try your solution, thanks

[stuck oyster]

you will typically want the defautl min/max value of 0/1

unless you know why you change that

[tribal pivot]

In theory it changed the animation, so when I set it to 2, I was able to move the doors by 2 meters max instead of 1

But thanks to you now I know that it's improper usage and probably will behave differently in the game itself

[stuck oyster]

I mean yea sure but just not the right way 😅

[tribal pivot]

Your solution worked perfectly, thanks!

[stuck oyster]

as was expected 😅

[rapid tree]

Modular Soldier V2 i see

[copper scarab]

Huh?

[civic stratus]

Anyone wanna help me make this thing work? http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=406934806

it doesnt need to walk, im fine with it sliding

i just need some help configuring turrets/weapons

[ocean swift]

hi chaps, can anyone advise me on a model.cfg. im getting that it cannot have externs. basically is a modified version of detagamers chinooks but the model.cfg is pretty much the same as it was. create a base class then at the end link the models to it but reading though i reading its requred to be indviually definded now

[civic stratus]

@ocean swift pastebin please?

[ocean swift]

ok 2 secs

http://pastebin.com/jXwm06uz

its an arma 2 port

im being told this is the old way

class CfgModels
{
class Default;
class StaticWeapon;
class Weapon;

class SSQN_L119A1_BaseModel: Weapon     
{
    BLURB
}

};

this is the new way

class CfgModels
{
class SSQN_L119A1_BaseModel
{
BLURB
}
};

[brave ruin]

@civic stratus May want to talk to gmwo if he's still around. He's the guy behind the Wander Panzer's which sort of walked. https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/167035-wander-panzerwap-mod-for-arma3/

Plus still had turreted weapons and such.

[fallen compass]

Hi, I have a question. Is it possible to modify a 3D model of a face? For example, to make it fatter or thinner? But with the purpose of modifying the model.

[marsh canyon]

Arma 3 Samples have a head model

[fallen compass]

Yes, I tried it, but the model doesn't change even though it changes on the bulldozer.

[marsh canyon]

Then you didn't applied the change in game?

[fallen compass]

Well, I packaged it with the PBO project and nothing.

xd

[marsh canyon]

Because you didn't write a config to apply it properly?

We can't tell anymore than that without knowing what exactly you are trying and did

[fallen compass]

I'll send you the config

[marsh canyon]

You did not do anything with your "new" model

CfgVehicles is unrelated, IIRC CfgHeads define the head model, CfgFaces define the texture and material that can be applied to it

[fallen compass]

What could I do?

[marsh canyon]

Read vanilla config to find some clue

[fallen compass]

in?

[marsh canyon]

DefaultHead_A3 is vanilla head model

[marsh canyon]

?

[fallen compass]

So you're saying that if that's the default model, no matter what I do, the default will take over?

[marsh canyon]

Yes because you set it so

[fallen compass]

ok

Do I have to put a specific name or bust_head?

[marsh canyon]

If you mean in CfgFaces, do like that, and define the head in CfgHeads (or similar name, can't remember rn)

[fallen compass]

I put that there.

[marsh canyon]

My reply has a sentence after "and", so I'm suggesting

[fallen compass]

eh?

[marsh canyon]

?

[marsh canyon]

You replied to my first part, but not my last

[fallen compass]

ahh

I don't have cfgHead in the config

[marsh canyon]

Search through the vanilla config and see how it is structured

[fallen compass]

The sample character from Arma 3?

[indigo mountain]

No
Use the in-game config viewer to look at the CfgFaces class

[marsh canyon]

Can't guarantee how it is actually working rn

But what you've done is not completed, that's the point

[indigo mountain]

CfgFaces is texture/material, CfgHeads is model basically like you said

[marsh canyon]

Oki

[indigo mountain]

90% faceType is not a thing
Faces are done through identityTypes

[fallen compass]

ok?

[marsh canyon]

If you don't understand something, say specifically so. "ok?" does not tell us anything

[fallen compass]

I'm sorry, I mean that I'm paying attention.

[indigo mountain]

Still missing the identityTypes in the unit
Not sure what B_Soldier_F uses by default but you also probably want to add your head to its own type as well (e.g. {"Head_Nato", "Poseidon_Head"})

And then adding identityTypes[] = {"Poseidon_Head"} in the unit config. You'll need to add stuff for the languages as well

[fallen compass]

No, I don't really know much.

[fallen compass]

I think I was able to put it there

[marsh canyon]

You also want to define identityTypes in CfgVehicles part

[fallen compass]

Can?

[marsh canyon]

?

[indigo mountain]

Yeah identityTypes is kind of weird

IdentityTypes in face, facewear, and languages add themselves to a "pool" of stuff; then in unit config, identityTypes just pulls stuff from those specific pools you list.

At least from my understanding

[fallen compass]

OHH

[indigo mountain]

Yeah that looks right
Can drop the faceType though

[fallen compass]

jajaj

readyy

thanksss

[civic stratus]

@ocean swift I think this bit is your problem

class CfgModels
{
class Vehicle;

the class Vehicle is your issue

[ocean swift]

ok well removed the class vehicle and removed the inhgertance after that as get the same error

inheritance **

[civic stratus]

class CfgSkeletons
{
class Vehicle;

[ocean swift]

oh bugger yep that was at the top

ok removed all class vehicle class and inheritence and same error

http://pastebin.com/9sg0Cm7U

updated pastebin

does the class helicopter do the same?

[civic stratus]

no

remove class Rotation;

[jaunty rune]

anyone got any tips for making a refrance image still show in wire frame in max?

[ocean swift]

thanks for the help Eagledude, removed rotation and inheritance further down same error

http://pastebin.com/wgexfUfR

[woeful viper]

you still can have those base classes. You just shouldnt rely on stuff defined outside of your model.cfg if you can help it

as long as your inheritance is correct there is no problem with a "vehicle" or "helicopter" class (it's just redundant if it has nothing in it)

@jaunty rune apply a material with some transparency to your mesh, so you can see through it

or use alt+x to make semi-transparent grey

[civic stratus]

I think this last bit might be your issue

class BAF_CH_47F_HC2_M240 : CH_47F_Base {};
class BAF_CH_47F_HC2_RAMP : CH_47F_Base {};
class BAF_CH_47F_HC2_UNARMED : CH_47F_Base {};

[tribal pivot]

I'm trying to set up my breakable glass in my p3d building, but for sure I'm missing something . I copied most of my config from sample building from Arma 3 Samples and my custom config works with sample model, but does not with my custom model. I created visual, geometry, fire geometry, hit-points and memory LODs and then in the vertex groups I marked all components like it was done in the sample. Is there anything additional that needs to be added to the blender model to be exported properly?
When I shoot at my widnows in game,there's no collision and the bullets are just flying through the window without any sound or particles

[charred bolt]

In your Fire Geometry LOD, you should have the windows as mesh,
All objects

• closed
• convex
• with a penetration material (glass for the windows)
• selection names "ComponentXXX" replacing XXX with sequential numbering from 001 upwards

[tribal pivot]

Just re-checked and my FG LOD checks all the points mentioned. All normals outside, only cube shapes, triangulated, Components automatically generated by blender, Pen material applied

[charred bolt]

After you export to p3d, open it up in Object Builder and validate the Fire Geometry using OB's built in tools.

[tribal pivot]

Checked, and there are no mistakes in the mesh

[charred bolt]

I'm not an expert on buildings per se, but are there some Geometry LOD properties which might disable simulation or ability to take damage?

[tribal pivot]

I do not think so. My other fire geometries are working just fine - when I shoot them they leave a trace and make sound. The only ones that are not working are related to the glass (4 on top of the image)

[charred bolt]

For example, do you have these set in the Geometry LOD?

[tribal pivot]

I did try that but without results. I'm not sure if that's on my side, but I do not see "house" in the property "map" in the autocompletion from blender arma tools. I will try to set it up again

Oh, I had sbsource set to shadowvolume. If the shadow was not large enough, could that have created issue?

[charred bolt]

Wouldn't think so, no.

[charred bolt]

If you want to dm me the p3d (or just the p3d Fire Geo LOD), I can double-check it for you.

[tribal pivot]

Sure, I will send it in a moment

[tribal pivot]

Update: I managed to fix it with help from Apollo. The issue was that my Fire Geometry had no named components for the geometry of the windows. After regenerating names, everything started working properly

[fallen compass]

One question: if I want to add knee pads to my vest model, do I have to select them with "Leftleg" and "RightLeg"?

[north sundial]

If you mean weight them then yes

[umbral shuttle]

are res lods supposed to start at 0 or 1?

[stuck oyster]

Typically 0 but it does not matter.

The numbers are not important, just that they are in order
1, 4, 6, 8,9 works

[umbral shuttle]

Okay cool, and say on a proxy lets say my model has 5 res lods, does the proxy also need 5? what happens if proxy is less or more?

[stuck oyster]

Yes it'll need 5

[umbral shuttle]

oooof its kinda hard to make res lods for a 500 poly object

[stuck oyster]

Proxies have limited draw distance so they might get culled from rendering earlier

Especially if there are a lot of proxies in view

[umbral shuttle]

what does that mean culled from rendering earlier?

[stuck oyster]

That they might not draw

[umbral shuttle]

oh okay

[stuck oyster]

Well it probably will work with just the 1 too

[umbral shuttle]

oh okay, so just make like 1-2 I guess, load in game and see if it works and no problems I guess?

[stuck oyster]

Yep

[umbral shuttle]

I love it XD I should ahhhh keep track of how long I spend looking at loading screen

[cedar jacinth]

With modern SSD‘s and about 60gb of mods i usually only take about 27 secs to main menu and to the virtual range about 12 secs, so does not take too long when its less mods.

[umbral shuttle]

oh yea but thats 40 seconds of life gone

[cedar jacinth]

Trueeee… but thats modding 😉
Reforger got a bit easier 😛

[north sundial]

@umbral shuttle you should also consider if the proxy would be seen past certain distances, for example if it was a missile on a wing of a plane.

Would it really be visible after say the 2nd or 3rd res lod? If not then just don’t include the proxy on the planes next res lod

[umbral shuttle]

Actually not that part more so the pylon it self. I did try that tho not putting the missile on the last res lod but I could tell when it goes to that res lod

At ~100 meters it was noticeable

[north sundial]

Ah fair enough, sometimes just gotta play it by ear

Or eye I guess in this case

[umbral shuttle]

yes very fun aspect

could be also my pc bad idk

[toxic needle]

hi im planning to make an Object 640 mod but im not sure wheter the model i ll buy has an interior would it be possible for me to use the Varsuk's interior from vanilla with permission from a BI developer of crs

[stuck oyster]

no, the Arma3 models are not available for such.

you can check out public release datapack Arma2 sample models though

but basically

and I'll be honest here.
You should learn 3d modeling if you intend to do complex addons like that

[toxic needle]

yes i do know 3D modelling but i was hoping i could save some time since im making a t-72A model rn and im also working on other mods but hnx for your time

[stuck oyster]

it may be good to keep focus on those other things first. otherwise you find yourself spread too thin.

[toxic needle]

btw id u wanna use the t-72 model in any of your mods hit me up

this is it

[stuck oyster]

I do a bit different kinds of mods myself. but the model looks nice.

[toxic needle]

thnx

despite looking good it still has a lot to be added

[analog garden]

has anyone set up submarine LODs

currently i have it "working" but it just sinks instead of doing the submersible thing, and it cant rise back up 😭

[tribal rain]

so i have a question for yall pertaining to weight painting?

Obviously weightpainting is a pretty broad topic so i wont ask people to give me a full on 1:1 lesson here aint nobody got time for that but what i wanna know is just the fundamentals:

I.e.

Whats the point of weight painting? (the why)
Weight Painting vs Automatic Transfer - the secrets no one tells you.
Pitfalls to avoid.
Important things to remember.

If anyones got any solid videos regarding to this id be supergrateful. as far as i can tell also it doesnt need to be Arma 3 related only i believe this is a blender wide skill so its like universal.

The reasons for it is ive got some pretty funky looking stretching and stuff going on with some of my models and i know its a weight paint issue but everytime i try and "Fix" the issue its like somethings not right i feel like im just trying to throw paint at a wall and hoping it sticks.

Any help peeps? 🙏 ❤️

[marsh canyon]

• Weight paint is to paint weight. Weight, in this context, defines the bone influences in a vertex, so the entire model
• Transfer then tweak
• Just practice, learn to other weights
• Pull enough hairs to gitgud

I would ask how it does look in Blender

I cannot tell what are face and shoulder issues btw

[tacit hull]

@analog garden maybe you can use ```sqf
setCenterOfMass

maybe can ues "setCenterOfMass" to make it look like the SUB is doing the submersible thing: and then restore the mass back to default

after it is at the depth you want

i do this in a scripting: looks so cool

[analog garden]

yeah so I want something working without having to script it in bc it is possible to have a submersible 😭

[bright echo]

i havent but my guess is the sub has to work as a boat first aka the buoyancy is large enough volume to account for the mass

[stuck oyster]

weightpainting is also connected to the topology of your mesh. if you have very different shaped joints for example they wont deform quite the same way as vanilla joints at same weighting.

you can get Macsers Armarig to use as movement/weighting test reference straight in Blender

what it looks like should correspond to what it ends up looking like in game