arma3_model

[woeful viper]

what tasks ?

[plush forge]

Redid the memory lod and hitpoint lod fresh. Re did the config entry too for good measure. Whatever I missed, was staring too too hard to spot it, as one of those things sorted it. 😄

[dusky dragon]

so basicly i cant do anything apart modelling

[stuck oyster]

some typo 😅

I have a feeling I had some silly typo with mine when I had the issue

[woeful viper]

what about textures and uv maps?

[dusky dragon]

no idea how to

[hollow fulcrum]

and im the padawan. haha, sorry couldnt resist.

😆

[woeful viper]

haha

[dusky dragon]

cant really be bothered with it either as i just dont have time to learn it because of school and other stuff

[woeful viper]

with what do you model it?

[dusky dragon]

@hollow fulcrum piss off you little ex-padawan, you are now a rookie 😛

3Ds Max

[hollow fulcrum]

honestly doing uv's is easist and best served when doing the modeling. ie.. i generally model a part, and do the UV's right then.

[woeful viper]

ok thats a start, at least not OB 😄

for vehicles it's pretty straight forward actually...

[hollow fulcrum]

that way if i do some cloning or whatever, it's all easy chessy. but yeah, UV's in general are not complicated. some specific geometries can be annoying though.

[woeful viper]

it gets complicated if you want optimal layout for ddo / non-3d-painting texturing AND optimal texture quality for LOD

[lethal anchor]

Does anyone know how I can fix this?

[stuck oyster]

the muzzleflash proxy needs to be defined as part of the config defined "selectionFireAnim"

[lethal anchor]

Ye so I did this, still getting the issue where its perma loaded

[stuck oyster]

id the selection also defined in the sections array of the model.cfg class of that weapon?

[lethal anchor]

    class TestAR: Rifle
    {
        skeletonName = "TestAR_Skeleton";
        sectionsInherit = "";
        sections[] = {"zasleh","camo"};

[hollow fulcrum]

i try not to scare them with reality

honestly though, a little forethought goes a long ways.

[lethal anchor]

Hey all - I'm having an issue with my weapon having a permanent muzzle flash when a suppressor isn't equipped. If anyone knows how to fix this, it would be appreciated.

Config - https://pastebin.com/HjSsCMeP
Model - https://pastebin.com/xJ0ehhPJ

[charred bolt]

Copy and paste the muzzle flash proxy into a brand new empty LOD.
Look to see whether it has any other selection names except for zasleh?

[woeful viper]

especially if your name is X3KJ, then you will spend way to much time pondering about it and then get scared by doing it non-optimal and just start another model instead 😄

[hollow fulcrum]

hahaha

[dusky dragon]

@woeful viper Same

[woeful viper]

i thought you had no idea how uv-ing works?

[dusky dragon]

I mean making a new model instead

[woeful viper]

oh you mean in general... yeh... the core weakness of beeing a perfectionist

[dusky dragon]

Indeed

The struggle is real!

[hard oasis]

What could cause the damper to randomly be totally compressed on client-side? some players see it some don't, cannot replicate just myself in single,host,dedicated, but i do see it sometimes in dedicated ops, when i'm not the driver

wheel config

class LF
{
    boneName = "wheel_1_1_damper";
    steering = true;
    side = "left";
    center = "wheel_1_1_axis";
    boundary = "wheel_1_1_bound";
    mass = 20;
    MOI = 3.3;
    dampingRate = 0.75;
    maxBrakeTorque = 2000;
    maxHandBrakeTorque = 0;
    suspTravelDirection[] = {0, -1, 0};
    suspForceAppPointOffset = "wheel_1_1_axis";
    tireForceAppPointOffset = "wheel_1_1_axis";
    maxCompression = 0.1;
    mMaxDroop = 0.15;
    sprungMass = 280.0;
    springStrength = 7000;
    springDamperRate = 1120;
    longitudinalStiffnessPerUnitGravity = 10000;
    latStiffX = 25;
    latStiffY = 180;
    frictionVsSlipGraph[] = {{0, 1}, {0.5, 1}, {1, 1}};
};

model.cfg wheel damper

    class wheel_1_1_Damper
    {
        type="translation";
                source="damper";
                selection="wheel_1_1_damper";
        axis="damper_axis";
                sourceAddress="clamp";
                minPhase=0;
                maxPhase=1;
                minValue=0;
                maxValue=1;
                memory=0;
                offset0=0.25;
                offset1=-0.25;
    };

also mention this vehicle geometry lod has autocenter = 1, not sure if this affects it, or what it does

[shell igloo]

Hey guys. Please go easy on me I’m new to the whole mod creation thing haha. If I had a model of a vehicle that I could view in blender, how easy or how hard would it be to try and make it a useable asset in the game? I understand there is scripting involved but I’m lost

[charred bolt]

Absolutely remove autocenter property completely.
You have a typo in maxDroop - I know it's probably from a Sample, but nevertheless it is wrong and will be breaking the damper.

[charred bolt]

If you've never put anything in game before, a vehicle is likely to be somewhere between "hard" and "this is insanely difficult", depending on the type of vehicle, your 3d modelling experience to create res and service LODs and prior coding experience in C++ or equivalent.
Usual recommendation is to start small, with something like a paint retexture of an existing asset or creation of a simple cube, to build your knowledge.

[shell igloo]

thanks. im late to the game with arma, only had pc for 2 years now. been trying to get someone on fiverr to make and script as asset but its been an absolute nightmare. everyone wants me to pay off of the site and do freinds and family payment to hose me out of the money. any tutorials or knowledge id be grateful for. if i have to make it myself i will. i have plenty of 3d modeling experience with mastercam but not anything like blender

[cloud zealot]

I would recommend you to start making a building first. Its the simpliest thing to import in Arma 3 and it will allow you to get introduced to Arma 3 engine

Check on Youtube and Google you'll find some videos and tutorials

Download Arma 3 Samples and take a look at the samples

[halcyon spire]

I started with importing a custom mesh to replace the default uniform lol, I had no idea it would be this difficult but It's helping me brush up on blender, and Object builder by MrClock for blender has helped tremendously

[glad wadi]

Afternoon all, does anyone know if there is an large aircraft interior. Something that can be boarded and captured or used to brief and simulate a transit.

[charred bolt]

SOG Praire Fire DLC has an M577 Command vehicle with deployable briefing tent and auto-map display.
Or a Chinook which holds a lot of troops.
And a Nasty Boat that has a nice cabin for SEAL team briefings.

[glad wadi]

its more about being able to move around and clear

[white jay]

Is there is a specific discord for arma 3 modding?

[hard oasis]

i'd say this one, in these arma 3 creative editing chats, the greatest minds are mostly here, maybe ace's discord could help, if it is something more similar to another mod and you can't find the answer here try joining their discord and asking for their help, although they are not obligated to help you so try not bothering them if they say no

[white jay]

copy that and thank you

[stuck oyster]

I dare say this is the best place to discuss modding.

we have channels for various aspects of making things

[oak holly]

any ideas this is frying my brain, assumed it was a weight issue but they seem to match and are not excessively Hard

Uniforms are the devil i swear

[stuck oyster]

what is it you try to do

[oak holly]

Make it not a Wacky Waving tube Man

• It Floats on selection after a few seconds initialises then i am stuck in the floor and the screen goes ballistic

[stuck oyster]

did you make the model?

[oak holly]

it's a commisioned model, adapted in Blender using Clocks Tools, passing all validation

[stuck oyster]

passing all validation does not always mean its correct 😅

just that obvious errors are not present

[sour bough]

i like this guy

I bet he's not sized right?

[willow nacelle]

Hello, does anyone know what the cause of this would be?

[marsh canyon]

Of what? The flag?

[oak holly]

how so, like the models scale?

as it closely resembles the A3 Example character

[stuck oyster]

well something about it is not made right. The question is do you have the skills to fix if even if its debugged?

[oak holly]

My focus was on Helmets vest etc prior, my first attempt at a full uniform implementation

[stuck oyster]

there isnt really anything different about uniforms then.

most likely the weights are way off.

[oak holly]

just seems much easier with helmets being 1 Weight and vests being max like 7

[restive pond]

ok finally managed to fix OB so i can see what it looks like in bulldozer.

My uniform somehow is transparent and broken when exported as P3D (including the hands) but ONLY when the uniform mesh is part of the LOD. If I remove the uniform mesh it works fine (just showing hands and feet, but not transparent).

What I've checked

• Materials are separate between uniform and body
• No issue with Shadow LOD, if I remove the shadow LOD the problem still persists
• Seems to be no issue with weighting as well. They look all in order
• lodnoshadow = 1 in object properties

[south badge]

Hello, I am not quite sure where to look for an answer.

Do I need to use weighting in some way to animate a wire´s movement when one end of this wire is connected to a moving mesh (purple - turret) while the other one is connected to a static mesh (blue)? I can´t seem to be able to find any reference so as to how to achieve this.

[marsh canyon]

Do you mean weighting in general? Usually just assign the weight along the cable in a gradient so transit the weight from the turret to the tripod smoothly

Note that you cannot just assign turret weight, so the cable will not know how much these vertexes should follow, as it will behave just like fully weighted part

[south badge]

ah I see, cheers 👍

[marsh canyon]

#arma3_model message
Related I guess

[south badge]

[willow nacelle]

Yes

[marsh canyon]

Weight is not there in the flag

[stuck oyster]

yes you need smooth weighting between them

ah chat didnt load 😄

you also need set isDiscrete parameter in model.cfg to 0 to utilize the smooth weighting

that may affect a little bit how you need to make the skeleton hierarchy in the modelcfg

[restive pond]

ok so now it looks fine in bulldozer but still not in-game 😭 😭 😭

would appreciate any help, ive been slaving on this for days

[willow nacelle]

where is that?

I'm just starting out in this and I don't know much.

[stuck oyster]

look up vertex weighting and skeletal animation

youve jumped the gun from basic modeling to putting stuff in game

[quick terrace]

@dusky dragon

make the model, then talk to whoever

if it is good, they'll contact you instead

[halcyon spire]

Hey guys so I got my model fully implemented into arma 3, using ofp2 skeleton, wondering if I can adjust the shoulder width of the base skeleton or if this requires a custom new skeleton with new animations? just curious

[marsh canyon]

Latter

[halcyon spire]

So I am able to move the points? will this cause my game to crash? lol

[marsh canyon]

Are you able to? Yes. Will it crash? No. Hard? Absurdly

[halcyon spire]

roger that

what exactly makes it hard? other than time in mapping out all my joints? it takes time, but moving those joints I imagine will cause an effect with every other animation I imagine yeah?

[marsh canyon]

Making the entire set of animation is

It takes time, knowledge, tech, software, time, braincells, and ultimately, there is no sample animations to use

[halcyon spire]

I'm not looking for samples

I'm just curious on the pipeline of building an arma 3 skeleton. it seems there are practically zero resources now that armaholic is gone

[marsh canyon]

Even though Armaholic is gone for a while already, and it is not the only knowledge pool, indeed I've never seen a good tutorial for it. Basically, model.cfg stores the hierarchy of these bones and RTM stores where a bone should move and rotate

[halcyon spire]

I know the Operation trebuchet guys did it with the spartans so it can't be too far out

right I've seen the RTM files, haven't dug into those yet but should

[marsh canyon]

No, you don't dig into. Digging RTM itself makes nothing

Knowing the concept is already enough, because you don't modify RTM itself but use animation software (eg Blender) to adjust and re-export

[halcyon spire]

right, object builder for blender has been a blessing as well

and the arma rig file

[halcyon spire]

also does anyone know the config file setup for implementing heads? I have the sample bust file and am going to weight paint my new model I just wanted to know if its possible to make it simply a swapable head

[marsh canyon]

As in character/uniform model?

[halcyon spire]

how exactly does arma 3 swap heads without disturbing the uniform model?

[marsh canyon]

Having bysta.p3d as a proxy into the right position of the uniform model

[halcyon spire]

does it define it when you name the vertex group "head"?

[marsh canyon]

tldr, just copy and paste all proxies in the character example

[halcyon spire]

ah interesting

[marsh canyon]

The concept of proxy is "outsourced" model or "swappable" model, in this context, they are swappable and engine determines which model/texture/material to use

[halcyon spire]

very cool

I imagine that proxy is shared or is similar to how it changes your hand skin texture?

[marsh canyon]

I guess you understand it right

Or concept at least

[stuck oyster]

There are identity classes in config that define what head to use and what textures for skin

[halcyon spire]

it took a week and a half to understand only a portion lmao and I've been looking everyday

[marsh canyon]

But that is anyways not a big deal to you, as long as you don't do anything special

[halcyon spire]

it's fairly straight forward but importing and exporting from blender required a lot of work

[stuck oyster]

It can take few months

[marsh canyon]

Just putting the proxies will do the rest

[halcyon spire]

and the fact some of the documents from the community are not in reach right now

sweet

[marsh canyon]

Unfortunately a lot of undocumented things drive this game or its modding scene

A lot

[stuck oyster]

This is one of those things only like 10 people have touched properly in the past decade.

[marsh canyon]

(HG is one of them)

[halcyon spire]

I'm trying to get things straight, MrClocks videos and python scripts have helped a lot

[stuck oyster]

👍

[halcyon spire]

ok I'm going to show you guys my abomination

😭 his arms fold inside lmao

[woeful viper]

indeed

does anybody have a clothing reference pic collection for modelling wrinkles by chance? (military kit specifically)

[white jay]

Does anyone know the process of importing Source engine models into Arma 3, especially for texture conversion? Are there any convenient tools for that?

[earnest fossil]

hi everyone, i have a problem. i add a grille on BTR-4E1 turret, but grille not following the turret. it has a "otocvez" selection

[charred bolt]

Check if the grille has any other selection names

[earnest fossil]

no, grille has only "otocvez" selection

in all lods

[charred bolt]

So it doesn't have damageHide or camo1?

[earnest fossil]

no

[charred bolt]

Copy and paste the grille into a new res LOD, and show screenshot of Object Builder with it selected by it's name in wire frame view

[earnest fossil]

oh, i made one mistake, i forgot to delete one of the selection that i used when adding this grille. i will try to delete it now and check

[dusky dragon]

@quick terrace Will do!

[charred bolt]

So there was another selection that was breaking it's movement. Another happy modder delighted to have been helped and full of thanks.

[earnest fossil]

i have another problem, when destroying the BTR-4E1, wheels not replaced on destroyed models

[stuck oyster]

No ripped stuff allowed

[halcyon spire]

@stuck oyster not intended to go past my friend group

its also a free model that is public domain

[stuck oyster]

the chracter is not in public domain and huge about of "free" stuff on the internet is ripped/stolen from somewhere. Just because its labeled free does not mean its legit.

[halcyon spire]

Roger that I will continue doing it in secret

[stuck oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/im-not-angry-im-just-disappointed-not-happy-not-amused-gif-16673557

[restive pond]

bumping this hoping anyone could help figure it out

[stuck oyster]

Looks like classic texture paths don't match with what's in the pbo

[finite siren]

Well if I can’t find blue camo I just have to make it myself

Turned out to be simpler than I thought

[earnest fossil]

can someone help me? please

[blazing geyser]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1309384662241775646/1323391245753778207/scoprend5.png?ex=68a23f24&is=68a0eda4&hm=a225d09002a6404a5950d5bedc989b5b1de8f6ff4f2d63eac679bb3240f10868&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=922&height=960

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1318708086797762590/1323661964559257681/image.png?ex=68a1e9c4&is=68a09844&hm=5405851dbd07d3875951fbf13c3c5c60e14f7d3f833b32afa5c6f5061698cae7&

[stuck oyster]

?

[runic plover]

You need to add the damageHide and add the proxies to unhide if you only want to show the rims after destroying the wheels so the tyre gets hide or if you modeled the wheels in 2 parts like tyre seperate and rim seperate you can just let the tyre hide

[short frigate]

Hi,
i'm working on a few weapon attachments and did implement a new scope. I want to use the texture overlay with the blurry scope like the DMS. but after i implemented it and linked it in the reticle p3d the scale seems of and i dont know how to fix that. Any thoughts on that?
The new scope is by design a 1x/3x/6x sope

[stuck oyster]

have you compared your texture with the one you have as comparison there?

[short frigate]

yes i used the "scope_view4_ca.paa" of the vanilla DMS scope.
thats how i set this up in blender

[hard oasis]

having proxies for cargo slots in the main LOD of the vehicle is causing them to affect the wheel's damper, what could i possibly do about this?

[stuck oyster]

how do they affect the dampers?

could be you need to reinforce the springs to bear the additional load

[hard oasis]

i do believe the proxies are the issue because we used this same model 3 times, the 2 times they have proxies for the people on the back the issue is there

you see the 3 wheels on the back completely

[charred bolt]

A few 80kg people should not have much of a noticable effect on your 10000kg vehicle.

Looks like the physx is not set-up correctly

[hard oasis]

and it's de-sync related, so it only affects the people not "simulating" the vehicle

so only affects those that are neither "the person who spawned the vehicle" and "the driver"

[charred bolt]

Are they Star Wars characters?

[hard oasis]

yes, from 3AS mod, the vehicle is from our unit

all configs are shared across them, specially physx

the difference in the classes config is based on their type

[charred bolt]

It looks like Star Wars mods are banned due to IP rights and no help will be offered for them here.
#arma3_troubleshooting message

[hard oasis]

gotcha

the vehicle is not from star wars, it's original, does that avoid it?

[charred bolt]

You'd need a moderator to answer that question, but I very much doubt it, so I won't offer advice at this stage.

[hard oasis]

yeah, no problem

[stuck oyster]

sorry we cant allow star wars mods here

[hard oasis]

gotcha, regarding my question even if the model is original and not from their ip, help towards the vehicle itself is fine?

i will stop asking, just seeing if this could be circumvented

[stuck oyster]

if its original sure but no star wars props in the pictures

[hard oasis]

gotcha

[stuck oyster]

like here

[hard oasis]

yeah, gonna get one without it, do you think textures could cause an issue? if so i can get them texture-less

this should fit the bill i guess, so the issue is the 3 backwheels too compressed at all or most times

[charred bolt]

In buldozer, check that the wheels go up as damper goes from 0 to 1

[hard oasis]

they do

the bug happens only to the people that are not "the driver" or "the person that spawned it" like a de-sync issue

[charred bolt]

in multiplayer only? so in single player it behaves fine?

[hard oasis]

multiplayer only

we originally had 3 versions, AA, IFV and mortar, and recently we made 3 new version, Cargo, Repair, Assault, the Assault and Repair (which have the bug) have proxies for infrantry to ride in the back

[charred bolt]

There is a feature of the game engine that causes vehicles not owned by the player to either bounce or float, which fixes itself when they get in or take control

usually seen with aircraft

[hard oasis]

the closed ones also have that but the proxies are on ViewCargo

with Damper 0 and 1

[hard oasis]

the thing is, this should happen to every single version if it were to be this bug no? the only versions are the ones with proxies in the back

[charred bolt]

If it's all working fine in SP, and only fails for some players in MP, it's likely an MP game engine issue

I suppose take your testing in MP to the simplest level, using a VR map and zero other mods or scripts

There are thousands of vehicles in Arma mods with proxies in rear cargo that don't have this issue, but it doesn't sound like specific to the vehicle set-up, more likely the environment in which it's being used perhaps

[hard oasis]

got it sorted, wheel bone was set as the damper instead of the wheel itself, probably getting to close to the proxies or something

[charred bolt]

That should have been noticeable in SP too, so not sure it all adds up, but nice to hear you found a fix.

[hard oasis]

maybe was it because there's animations utilizing that selection name, or something among that

[somber widget]

Quick question. I see a lot of people using 3ds max to make arma models? is there a reason for that i could i use maya?

[tired tree]

Anyone knows Where I can get custom Vehicles for Public Zeus? One time I saw an literally Airship (it was submarine with Rotors), I been wondering where I can get that type of things.

Like an Pickup with AA gun.

[celest arch]

just a matter of taste. 3ds max has a wide array of plugins

[stuck oyster]

You cant.

[umbral shuttle]

not sure where to put this but I updated my graphics driver this past weekend for battlefield 6 and now in bulldozer CO textures dont render but the rvmat does 💀

I am assuming its the driver update*

[stuck oyster]

😵‍💫 not impossible Id suppose. Did you check the assigned texture path in OB?

[umbral shuttle]

Yes, and I have not changed the above images path in over a year 🙂 I looked at stuff that I havent touched, and it builds fine per mikeros

[stuck oyster]

and works in game?

[umbral shuttle]

Yes

[stuck oyster]

oh do you have textures turned off in the viewer menu?

in OB

[umbral shuttle]

omg

let me see

🙂

ty horriblegoat

[stuck oyster]

[umbral shuttle]

why is that an option

[stuck oyster]

to see the model without them 😄

like for example to see how the normalmap looks

[umbral shuttle]

Im going to go buy waffle house out of frustration for this

I totally was not looking up how to roll back graphics driver

[south badge]

Hello, I am trying to make an extendable tripod animation work, and I can´t really get it to look well.

While the initial and final positions of the front leg seem to be more or less correct, in the middle portion of the animation the translation extending the leg pushes it into the ground (the base of the "wall" can be considered ground level).

This would lead me to believe I need to reduce the translation offset, but if I do that then the leg will end up floating above ground at the end of the animation.

Is there some mistake I am making here?

Or is there some way to make a translation animation not be "linear"?

[stuck oyster]

you can make the translation in stages

from 0 - 0.3 translate this much from 0.3-0.6 translate this much and so on

[south badge]

oh, I see, that didnt occur to me, thanks a lot

[turbid flint]

hello, can someone tell me how they were able to increase all the animations for the Spartans and how to do this again?

[stuck oyster]

there is no guide

it requires one to be good at understanding Arma config structure and good at animation tools

[grizzled halo]

besides, thats a question to ask in Optre's discord

[stuck oyster]

True. Though the answer may be the same. 😅

the question is too broad imo

[grizzled halo]

does Talya's animation tool is able to take the rtms from the game or does it work specifically for keyframe-based animations in blender? That could be a good place to start though

[stuck oyster]

its not meant for that

thats more for model.cfg stuff

there is rtm importer that works with arma toolbox

and I think Clocks toolbox has both

the meat of the process is automating it

and setting up rigs that do the retargeting

but explaining all that in comprehensive way is quite big task

along with all the involved config work

[north sundial]

As goat said, When I did this hydraulic arm anim thats basically what I did.

I setup the animation in blender and set 5 keyframes out of a 10 keyframe period and got their rotational values at those keyframes and implemented them at 0-0.2, 0.2-0.4 etc. in the model cfg with some parenting
https://gyazo.com/3597bfc5367376d017ab3598eb020107

[hard oasis]

what determines if a vehicle will tear a tree down or not? i wanted something like the plow tracked apc that NATO has, is it the weight of the plow selection in the geometry lod?

[cloud zealot]

the mass and the speed of the vehicle

[hard oasis]

why does this proxy for muzzle-flash (which when saved alone weights 1kb) adds 12mb to each lod when added to the main model?

[limpid bobcat]

Has anyone experimented with making a huge dummy item that prevents pathing but has no actual collisions?
Ive never done any asset modding for arma so im just spitballing.

I really need a way to prevent AI from driving through a forest on a map but i havent seen anything like this online.

[stuck oyster]

No collision,no path prevention

On mission level triggers could maybe be used to make areas where AI turns away from

[limpid bobcat]

Im just mostly having issues with them driving into areas and getting stuck or confused.

[limpid bobcat]

Not totally sure what that means

[stuck oyster]

When making a mission, make area trigger over places you don't want AI go into and make them go somewhere else instead

Blocker objects are not the solution though.

[limpid bobcat]

So a trigger that activates a move waypoint or something?

My main issue was when i have something like a tank or squad in a truck on guard trying to react to players, getting stuck trying to navigate through rocks or a forest.

But thanks for the help.

[stuck oyster]

If it's modded map then it may be just bad map design.

[limpid bobcat]

Probably. I was trying to do Us army rangers stuck in ww2 germany. So the maps are kinda sketchy

[stuck oyster]

But yes AI can need more detailed pathing orders. It can always navigate on its own.

Modded assets can sometimes be bit lacking in all technical requirements

[umbral shuttle]

for land contact for a drone, should the point be a little bit above the geo, exactly where the geo touches ground or a bit below?

[stuck oyster]

below

right now it would mean placing it down clips its geometry into ground

this can lead into #armaMoments

[umbral shuttle]

would said #armaMoment be the drone kinda like pivots and spins 15 degrees to the left lol

[umbral shuttle]

so this far down should be okay?

[stuck oyster]

yeah probably fine. Also usually best if the model is made above the 0 level height in model space

[umbral shuttle]

oh like have it sorta of be hovering a tiny bit?

[stuck oyster]

or at level

at least thats the "best practices" I've learned

might be nothing too

[charred bolt]

It makes things much simpler to have the geometry/res LOD's in an air vehicle be at (not below) "ground" level in OB.

[near lake]

Hey there Im new into this,
can someone give me a quick assessment if ~1.000 polys are worth for 10m of wall?
I only know that I should stay low with polys, what does it mean in total?

[stuck oyster]

its alright if you make distance lods for it

so at far its just simple box

with texture baked on it

[finite stump]

Im looking into making a larger model like how the ships are made. Am I right in that you need a p3d with just the memory points for where the connection points are?

[near lake]

Copy. I never used the Arma3 Tool. Can you give me a YouTube video or something how to use it
or could you introduce me?
Ive found multiple AddOns for Blender but wich one would you recommend?

Update:
Ive found this plugin: https://youtu.be/iaWWnOGrCDY?list=PL1L8e_Shj5DErJinP8vtLTImQ5PY4K9IN
Its and Update of the A3Toolbox

# Is here anybody who got experience with A3OB Plugin for Blender?
*please DM or anwser below the post ❤️ *

[cloud zealot]

If i make a double barrel rifle, can i use hide animation on "usti hlavne" and "konec hlavne" to switch cannon ?

[stuck oyster]

how would hiding the points switch things?

you should be able to use tranlsate animation on them though

[cloud zealot]

Oooooh that sounds better !

thanks 🙂

[sour bough]

.

@cloud zealot i already did something like that, here you go 🙂

[cloud zealot]

thanks 🙂

[cloud zealot]

Is there a maximum length for the rifles ?

I mean any reason i got this weird effect when i move with the weapon ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGtEaIxkYxA

(Don't pay attention to the audio, i was watching a serie)

[sour bough]

Motion blur does that. Honestly, just turn motion blur off.

[cloud zealot]

hmm thank you

[slow pine]

So, i'm trying to make this structure, but my Geometry Lods aren't working, and i think it's because it says i have those 24 concave edges.
How can i fix it?

[sour bough]

Split it into more components

[near lake]

# Okay got it, no Arma3 Object Builder guys for Blender, but!
** I also would think that it could become helpfull to receive some intel**
** about basic modeling like the pictures Ive attached.**
maybe somethin Arma3 -> Digital Reality <- specific

The Keyword I need to learn something about is I think Ruleset

Maybe someone can tell me about some Digital Realty specific things about the Geometry Ruleset

[stuck oyster]

there is a wiki page about lod specifics

and a pinned message about geometry lods

dont think we ever have used a term ruleset for the requirements 😅

[near lake]

The problem about is that I already studied that one https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/LOD

Its also the same things Ive to define in the Blender tool to export it to Bohemia File .paa

Then I could (if I someday make it happen) assamble everything in the Arma Tool ----> Right?

[near lake]

https://mrcmodding.gitbook.io/arma-3-object-builder/tools/validation#rulesets

Thats what Ive found in my Plugin Documentary. He did a good job I think

[stuck oyster]

sure

those work

[near lake]

Can someone tell me something about his experience with convex meshs?
In my sight they are getting only created by wrong triangulation when the generator
isnt able to split an Concave angle into diffrent parts of Convex angles.

[stuck oyster]

Yes that can happen. You need to do things manually sometimes

[south badge]

Ugh I have tried a few different poses, but they all seem to break / dip into the ground at the very bottom of the animation.

Now I am thinking that it may have been smarter to perhaps model the weapon in the lowest possible position and create the pose for that state. It would probably be easier to get it to look right with the character having to stand up, rather than having to lower himself so close the the ground.

I assume the **gunnerRightLegAnimName **/ gunnerRightLegAnimName control the position of the character´s feet? It just seems to inevitably stick the knee in the ground :/

[stuck oyster]

yeh there isnt that much control on how the limbs bend

the lowest pose could work as better staring point but overall yours isnt too bad either. theres bound to be some jank in this kind of more extreme poses

compared to most things of similar nature you have come very far with it already 👍

[rich meadow]

if you need to build simple object you could follow this procedure, there are also example files ,etc.

https://github.com/gerard-sog/arma3-macvsog-columbia-items

[umbral shuttle]

I have a bit of an odd problem, I am trying to make this drone a vtol. when its vtol = 1/2/3/4 when spawning in the drone rotates a bit, when its vtol = 0 it doesnt. I assume its something model related cause if I just spawn the model to the darter nothing like that happens

nothing in rpt log that indicates anything bad is happening either 🙁

[stuck oyster]

land contacts? wheel setups?

[edgy pulsar]

Some use blender, some 3ds Max. It's really a matter of taste or use. I use 3ds max for anything amounting to a big project, but if I'm doing stuff like a tarp or a bag, I prefer blender's cloth simulation.

[near lake]

Hey there,
I just learned that Arma isnt able to render Concave objects.

So my question is, how do I create a Convex decomposition without making
the mesh incontigous?

Im not able to export the mesh because my stairs are incontigous

[bold flare]

Arma can't render concave objects?
I'm pretty sure I've seen satellite dishes

And why can't you export non-continuous meshes?

[near lake]

Im using this Blender plugin to export paa LODs from Blender.
Its quite the same as toolbox from Alwarren, just more recent.
One of the ruleset for the geometryLOD is that it has to be
convex and continuous mesh

I try to learn this since 1 month now and Im close to quit. I just dont get it what the issue is

So it have to be convex and
it have to be manifold.

I played through manifold but cant finish
the convex decomposition part because there is
way less intel and sources about that topic

There is a convex hull modifier for Blender. But I dont like
machine learning. I would like to become able to fix little issues with the skillset Ive build.

Does anyone know some good and true sources?

[north sundial]

The concave issue is only present on geometry lods

Your resolution, shadow, roadway etc. lods can use concave shapes

But on geometry you need to use convex ones

So for this asset, this would be the geometry lod I would suggest you make

Also on roadway you should make the stairs a ramp otherwise your character will bounce

Standard in most gamedev stuff to make steps ramps under the hood

[near lake]

Ive run the object now through an auto plugin. Its now convex.
But I also would like to develop some methods on my own to make this true

But if only would need this skill for geometryLOD I could delay that learning.

Just for my understanding:

• geometryLOD -> Hitbox with other entities. (You ram the mesh, your car stops at the geometryLOD)
• geometryFire -> Hitbox for bullets (You should against the mesh, bullet refelcts from the geomtryFireLOD)
  is that correct?

[cloud zealot]

Yes geometry is for collisions and Fire Geometry is for bullet hit

[lapis basin]

Hi ! I have a question regarding the amount of tries for an object in regards to performance. This is mostly a more general question for 3D modeling but still to be imported into arma so I have to work with the Engine limitation.
How would you define the amount of tries that an objects should have ? As an example I have a table and it's 4K triangles, which for me seems kind of a lot for a table. (it's not one single mesh, it's multiple that I've joint together)

[umbral shuttle]

sorry I had gone to work and then sleep
Okay this is land contact with phyx lod in background.

no wheels since its skids, do I need to have some fake wheels defined for vtol=1/2/3/4?

[stuck oyster]

when making stuff like this its important to consider where it is used and how much of it can be seen

in your model there are lot of supporting loops that can be cleaned up from final game ready model

[solid siren]

Hello is there anyone who does Star Wars mod editing?

[stuck oyster]

no star wars IP is not allowed to be used

[solid siren]

For arma 3?

[stuck oyster]

for any game

[solid siren]

How about the clone mods on arma 3?

[stuck oyster]

not allowed

[solid siren]

I’m confused then how they are still being use and edit

[stuck oyster]

they get banned every once in a while

[solid siren]

Ok

Well thank you

[indigo mountain]

Getting the error shotPos='muzzlePos2' found in config but not found in model <model>, where is muzzlePos2 supposed to be located on a launcher?

[stuck oyster]

those are the points that define the direction vector of the muzzle

typically one is at the "chamber" and other at the end of the barrel

alternatively

[indigo mountain]

Gotcha
Turns out a base class of ours was setting shotPos and shotEnd for whatever reason

[quick terrace]

@somber widget - sure you can use maya 😉

[astral cairn]

Are there any good pointers for more complex track design, ie. having holes and bits that stick out

[stuck oyster]

not much. those are set up with layered mesh with differen textures. But it may not really be worth the effort

game graphics are always about compromise

[astral cairn]

Fair enough. I'll prolly just check a decent texture on my existing one and call it a day haha

[stuck oyster]

easiest approach

[willow nacelle]

Hello, does anyone know why when I upload my mod to the workshop, the texture doesn't come out?

It does appear to me, but a friend who downloaded it doesn't get the texture

[indigo mountain]

How do you path to the texture in your mod?

[willow nacelle]

this?

[indigo mountain]

You shouldnt' have semicolons at the end of those texture paths, it should just be a comma after the first one

hiddenSelectionsTextures[] = {
    "\path\to\texture\one_co.paa",
    "\path\to\texture\two_co.paa"
};

[willow nacelle]

It already worked, thanks

[gilded bane]

Anyone have an issue where larger vehicles shake when they are moving? It used to flip over easily but I moved the weight nearer to the ground so its center of mass is lower, but it still shakes when moving? Smaller vehicles don't have this problem for me

[woeful viper]

shake? how so?

[gilded bane]

Yeah, When it's in motion, the vehicle will feel like it's driving in an earthquake haha

[woeful viper]

i can only imagine that your physx suspension is underdamped then

or that something is borked with the wheel setup in config or p3d

[gilded bane]

I'll try mess around with the Damper configs and report back with any findings haha

I wouldn't wish this on anyone 😭

Thanks :

[cloud zealot]

Is there a way do display backpack in a seat ?

[willow nacelle]

Hi, does anyone know why when I try to view my car in the model viewer, all I get is this?

[willow nacelle]

and this error

[cloud zealot]

reinstall Object Builder

if you didn't launch it since the update that's normal

[willow nacelle]

thanks

[south badge]

I think it eventually worked out kinda okay. I´ll just pretend the Arma guy regularly does a lot of lower body mobility exercises

[stuck oyster]

😄 It fits right in with the Splendid Split feat 😄

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSAJdRpqltM

[north sundial]

Fantastic work, I can't wait to include this in my workout routine haha

[cloud zealot]

Does anyone knows what can make lineIntersectObjs not working with a custom unit ? The unity has geometry and firegeometry, cursorObject works properly and if i shoot the horse, it works properly. But for some reason lineIntersectsObj doesn't work on it. Any idea ?

[stuck oyster]

is it larger than normal?

ah yes the horse

[desert notch]

idk. if it's RTM animated, maybe it's related to animation bounding sphere?

[stuck oyster]

Id wager its bounding sphere related

same as the hit detection stopping at 2 meter height.

I still have to make a test case for Dedmen about that. 😅

in case he can tweak that

[bold flare]

Hello.

How do I edit Geometry LOD weight/mass in object builder.
I have object in OB, I want to view how heavy it is.
I can see the mass in geometry lod, by the size of the vertices, but I want the number.
I cannot find it in the menu's :/

I know there is some key to open it

Windows -> Mass
is the answer ✅

I doubt a bid that a 3 missile AGM pylon only weighs 50.. 🤔
Ah the magazine mass is from config

[stuck oyster]

😅 Fun times right!?!

[bold flare]

A pylon on a vehicle has "maxWeight", which corresponds to the wei... eh. "mass" entry in the CfgMagazines class.

Also a "Pylon" on a vehicle is the attachment point for pylons, not the pylon itself.
A "PylonWeapon" is the invisible weapon that will use the pylon.
A "Pylon" is a magazine attached to a "Pylon" (the attachment point on the vehicle)

A gatling gun attached as a pylon on a pylon is just a magazine, not a gun/weapon.

Yes yes, I'm learning.

[bold flare]

Well except of course, if the magazine has no mass

[bright echo]

im not sure if it actually affects what its mounted to I think it's just a restriction of what you can carry

like if it adds to the actual aircraft 'mass' and therefore affects the flight characteristic

[cloud zealot]

No its no its just a normal horse

[stuck oyster]

about where does the line intersect stop working?

[cloud zealot]

How do i change the bounding sphere of an animation ?

[cloud zealot]

lineIntersectsObjs [eyePos player, eyePos player vectorAdd eyeDirection player, objNull, objNull, false]
Here is the command i use

It works fine with lineIntersectsSurfaces

I was just asking myself could it be related to the collisionVertexPattern of my custom CfgMoves ? I realized bohemia use the naming pattern 1a, 2a, 3a, 4a, etc.... in order to make the vertex selections. My pattern is 1a, 1b, 1c, 1d etc..... could it be at the origin of the problem ?

I mean BI only change letter when its a different convex shape, should i respect this naming pattern ?

[stuck oyster]

do you define the pattern in your cfgMoves for the horse?

that matches the selections you have

[cloud zealot]

In the CfgMoves the pattern is defined like so collisionVertexPattern[] = {"1a","1b","1c","1d","1e","1f","1g","1h","1i","1j"}; collisionGeomCompPattern[] = {1};
I don't exactly know what collisionGeomCompPattern does...

[stuck oyster]

do you also have the collision p3d set up and defined in the animation states?

[cloud zealot]

Yes, i copied the geometry lod in a horse_collshape.p3d file

All animations have collisionShape = "iarts_horses\horse_CollShape.p3d";

The thing is the is no descriptions for collisionGeomCompPattern on the wiki and for collisionVertexPattern it says Possibly some internal requirement of the collision detection algorithm. The strings represent individual vertices (named selections in the P3D).
I like the "possibly" 😄

[stuck oyster]

different animations can have different collision shape and the pattern makes the characters collision blob blend between those shapes

like when in prone the blob is flattened

[cloud zealot]

in my case, the horse is always on stand position, i might need to make a sort of prone position for long sleep but the horse is prettyt much always on the same position

[stuck oyster]

its all still needed I believe even if not "fully" utilized

but yeah I dont recall what the pattern array does

vanilla configs have 3 kinds of examples

empty []
[1]
and
[1,3]

1 probably should work since thats what all animals use

and those have only 1 collision shape

[cloud zealot]

When you define animations for a character there is no pattern. All actions of the same stance are regrouped in the same action. Each action has defines the stance for all animations it contains with stance = "ManStanceStand"; (ManStanceStand in my case because i need engine's stand behaviour). If you don't need a stance, you just don't create an action for it, if you need an additional stance, you can do it as well but with some limits

[cloud zealot]

Hmm i'll make a double check but it could be related to the letters used in the collshape

However, collisions work fine during animations

[stuck oyster]

yes it is defiend in the action and typically inherited from the base, not individually defined in each action class

[stuck oyster]

all states are animations. even standing

[cloud zealot]

When i see this i'm wondering if the number 1 is a and 3 for c . Because this collshape has 2 components and each component vertex have the same letter...

[stuck oyster]

a yeah could have been that

it has 2 components

[bright echo]

iirc the 1/3 refers to component01 and 03

in the geo lod

[stuck oyster]

yeh that makes sense

[bright echo]

because for 'man' units it has component01 and 03, skips 02

[cloud zealot]

ah

[stuck oyster]

I wonder what the 02 used to be 😅

mysteries of the past

[cloud zealot]

xD

[desert notch]

there's a property in the anim state class

[cloud zealot]

Well in the end we didn't find why lineIhntersectsObj doesn't work, maybe it deserves feedback ticket

[desert notch]

idk what it's called exactly. could be boundingRadius

[cloud zealot]

I'll check

[stuck oyster]

boundingSphere=1.5;

[cloud zealot]

Let me give it a try just to be sure its deprecated

[stuck oyster]

its required for collision to keep working with animations where character walks out of the default space

like with cutscene animations where the character actually stays where it is but looks like walking around

but have not actually tried that "True" value. will have to give that a go too

[cloud zealot]

My boundingSpere was set to 1, i increased it to 1.5 because the horse is a bit longer than 2m

but it didn't change anything lineIntersectsObj still not working

[stuck oyster]

try true

also what might false do 🤔

[cloud zealot]

doesn't change anything

[cloud zealot]

i don't think it would change anything i tried with 0 and it still doesn't change

its probably deprecated

[desert notch]

config doesn't have bool. true is just 1

anyway, regarding why intersection doesn't work, have you tried the diag exe with diag_draw??? stuff to see how the game sees your model?
also try boundingBox/boundingBoxReal commands on both the model and the view lod to make sure the BB is correct

[stuck oyster]

good shout

[desert notch]

oh oof 😅

@cloud zealot I meant to ping you

[cloud zealot]

i haven't tried diag exe and diag draw, i will. Concerning the boundingbox you can see it in the editor

but i'll check to see

[cloud zealot]

In order to download Arma 3 diagnostic is this line still valid ? ./depotdownloader -app 107410 -depot 107411 -beta development -username %USERNAME% -password %PASSWORD%

I just install it in A3 directory ?

[stuck oyster]

you can get only the exe and bin files. just a sec

dta\bin.pbo.a3.bisign
arma3diag_x64.exe
dta\core.pbo
dta\core.pbo.a3.bisign

:: CHANGE THESE VARIABLES
SET USERNAME=xxx
SET PASSWORD=xxx
SET "A3DIR=D:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\DepotDownloader\downloads"
SET "FILELIST=FileList.txt"

:: ONLY CHANGE IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
depotdownloader.bat -app 107410 -depot 107411 -beta development -username %USERNAME% -password %PASSWORD% -remember-password -dir "%A3DIR%" -filelist "%FILELIST%" -validate```

the pbos can be run as a local mod

and are not always needed either

depends if there is some new feature tha requires some config bit

[cloud zealot]

Ok thanks 🙂 ill use that bat file

[quasi matrix]

So i made a uniform but there is no head on the uniform? for some reason

it doesnt render in, the textures and the models are fine

Proxies are fine too

[stuck oyster]

proxies are not fine

no head = proxies are not fine

[quasi matrix]

how so?

okay nvm my proxies were not fine, lol

but whats usually the issue when that happens? where did i fuck up? i usually just copy proxies over

[stuck oyster]

[quasi matrix]

well thanks for the info, now i know that

[bleak tangle]

I accidentally turned a windmill into a satellite dish http://i.imgur.com/YrWe9Pp.gif

I probably find it funnier than it actually is but an easy issue to fix

[drifting nova]

I have a question about proxies; So I have a rocket launcher. Instead of giving it iron sights I want to have a dedicated optic. I don't want to use the attachment system for it, because I want it to use that fixed optic, like the vanilla NLAW for example. I've attached via proxy the optic in question to both Resolution 1 and View Pilot lods. However I'm having a problem, if I spawn the P3D as simple object the proxy appears but if I equip the launcher, its not there.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1317255900288778332/1409857669665390666/image.png?ex=68aee7c6&is=68ad9646&hm=2b48447b0e10f238d6108bc0b42ac2f1c0fffcde88b7a3324b14b5c52b330785&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1985&height=1116 simple object

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1317255900288778332/1409857751546593280/image.png?ex=68aee7d9&is=68ad9659&hm=2edccc79dd82545977bdd4bea0bfeb3cf68db4b19af8977bc2310d5b67b0982e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1985&height=1116 equipped

so I guess my question is, can I not use proxies directly on weapons? Do they require an attachment proxy to work or am I doing something wrong?

[charred bolt]

Check whether you have any selection names on the proxy in OB that might be hiding it.

[drifting nova]

vertex group is set to "optic", added to SkeletonBones and on animations

            {
                type="hide";
                source="direct";
                selection="optic";
                minValue = 0.0;//rad 0.0
                maxValue = 1.0;//rad 57.29578
                hideValue = 1;
                unHideValue = 0;
                animPeriod = 0.0;
                initPhase = 0;
            };```

also tried without giving the proxy any selection names

neither worked

on skeletonBones

        {
            "dustcover", "",
             "pin","",
              "optic",""
            
        
        };```

[charred bolt]

autocenter property set in the proxy's Geo LOD?

[drifting nova]

Yes. Every other animation works fine.

its just the proxy that does not show when the weapon is equipped

also in case I might have not explained myself propperly, the proxy is not being called through an attachment proxy, its a proxy referencing the optic p3d directly

[charred bolt]

I still suspect a selection name on the proxy. Double check no selection names in both first res Lod and View Pilot

[drifting nova]

well no

because right now the only proxy has been asigned to lod1

and it has no selection names

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/273493768336965644/1409890082042941592/image.png?ex=68af05f6&is=68adb476&hm=4a521a4b32e852975e105f6d7886bfb2887ba078d8cb20c6e0eaf549b40048d2&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=2297&height=1116

[charred bolt]

Is the equipped model and the one which shows when made a simple object (ground holder?) the same model?

[drifting nova]

havent made ground holders yet, whenever I drop the tube it does not show the optic either

the only reference to the model is through config
model = "\SAS_Weapons\weapons\launchers\C84\C84R.p3d";

spawning that as simple object gets the optic to appear

[charred bolt]

Can you make a cube and place it directly on the launcher p3d, with no selection name, make sure you see that in game.

[drifting nova]

sure give me a min

[charred bolt]

Then add the optic selection name and test again.

Finally move the cube to its own p3d and add that as a proxy to the launcher.

[drifting nova]

well the cube works

on to the vertex groups now

I have the feeling that calling the vertex group "optic" was what was breaking it

aha

okay

2 things

changed the selection name

also used "hasOptics" as an animation flag

it now works

thanks for the help!

well I think I got it to work

[stuck oyster]

as optics is for when it has an optic attachement

if you have non attachment optic then you dont use that animation

[drifting nova]

yeah but can't it be reversed to show the thing when there is no optic installed?

[stuck oyster]

so you also want it to be able to mount different optics?

[drifting nova]

no

[stuck oyster]

I dont quite understand

[drifting nova]

ok so

what source should I be using then?

[stuck oyster]

is there need to hide the optics for some reason?

[drifting nova]

no

[stuck oyster]

then you dont use any animation on it

its just there

[drifting nova]

well, I tried that unfortunately not adding any animations didnt work either

it showed up on the simple object but not on the equipped launcher

[stuck oyster]

do you have the proxy in all resolution and viewpilot lods?

[drifting nova]

yes

for testing only on LOD1 and Viewpilot

as I only exported those + geo and mempoint

[stuck oyster]

and a cube p3d as proxy did show up?

[drifting nova]

i need to test that one still, I'll be right back

my point with hasOptics is that, unlike before, I could make the proxy appear and disappear through the simple object

whereas before I couldnt period

I'll try the cube p3d

[stuck oyster]

simple object does not really matter in this case

its read different from the one on the character

[drifting nova]

ok so

Cube as proxy did not work either

[charred bolt]

Even when proxy on launcher had no selection name?

[drifting nova]

yes

it didnt even show up when there wasnt even a model.cfg

[charred bolt]

And you made the "cube" proxy from scratch, not just pasting cube into previous proxy p3d?

[drifting nova]

made a new blender file, exported the starter cube as p3d with OB

[charred bolt]

You're doing all the right things. Hand held weapons not exactly my expertise, will try to think of some more tests...

[drifting nova]

like they both appear on the simple object so something's breaking somewhere

[stuck oyster]

like I said simple object is treated differently

[drifting nova]

well I dont know how else to check

[stuck oyster]

muzzleflash proxies do show up on model but that may also be tied to the muzzleflash engine system

proxies of "non engine feature" type might not show at all

I dont remember off the top of my head if that is the case

[drifting nova]

thats why I asked if normal proxies were even supported in weapons, I know about the specific muzzleflash, mag and accessory proxies

and since simple objects are vehicles rather than weapons

it would make sense for them to show up there and not here

[stuck oyster]

yeh

and weapon on character is already a proxy

[drifting nova]

well guess I can just add a scope proxy and just make my custom scope as the only option

[stuck oyster]

and proxy on a proxy does not work on vehicles either

[stuck oyster]

if its your model you can just paste the model into the launcher

[drifting nova]

The reason I'm using a proxy is because its a BI model

its the NLAW optic which is its own thing, but unfortunately i can't just drop it in the p3d

[stuck oyster]

ah then yeah single allowed attachement type

[drifting nova]

pain

well, thanks for the help

[wraith tendon]

gj 😄

[hard oasis]

do optic view-pilot not work? i was testing a scope and was getting weird configs when i changed the textures on the main Lod to be blue and view-pilot green they all show blue, green just doesn't show up, does optics actually use view-pilot?

[edgy pulsar]

You should just put that into the game anyhow, as a seperate model somewhere on the map. Make people wonder wtf happened there.

Watch players record videos of a strange phenomenom, post them on youtube, and start conspiracy theories over it.

[stuck oyster]

it is possible it does not.

[glacial compass]

Hello, is there a Firing From Vehicle sample/ model example that I could open to check how is it done please? thanks in advance

[stuck oyster]

no but model wise there isnt anything specific

its just a gunner proxy

[south badge]

How are infantry weapons / launchers supposed to be modelled in relation to the Z axis? Does the "0" line have to go through the middle of the barrel?

[stuck oyster]

no barrel does not have to be at 0 height

you can check out the sample weapon for where your trigger should be approximately

as the sample gun is fitted for the MX animations

from there you can position it as youlike so that it eventually sits right at the shoulder when used in game

the position of the weapon proxy on the character is always the same

but moving the gun in its p3d can apply whatever offset you need

and the hand animations are then set up to work with that offset

[bleak tangle]

I'll give it an addAction with a range of less than 1 meter with the text "Call home", and then one of the ships from this https://forums.bistudio.com/topic/178105-ext-extra-terrestrial-adversaries/ will come pick you up

[south badge]

Well I want to make a launcher and I am again stuck at the same place I was stuck last time with this damn rig

It isnt explicitely stated anywhere whether a launcher should be snapped to the weapon or launcher bone

[stuck oyster]

launcher on the launcher bone

and then you need correct launcher stance as base so you have the launcher bone in right rotation

launcher bone name needs to match what is in model.cfg

[south badge]

The model.cfg of what though? The weapon? or the character?

It´s complete jank. I had to rotate the launcher bone -90 degrees on the Y axis to at least get the hands of the character rotated correctly.

But I need to move the ingame position of the launcher forward, but moving the launcher bone forward doesnt change the position of the launcher ingame.

quite clearly it is supposed to be more forward

the hands are positioned correctly relative to the launcher´s model, but the model is not positioned correctly ingame

[stuck oyster]

for RTMs its always the character

[stuck oyster]

yes this is not where the launcher bone is in game

[south badge]

Hmm, well I have no clue how to move it forward then

[stuck oyster]

thats why you need the real launcher pose

[south badge]

What do you mean? Can´t I ever change the position of the launcher?

[stuck oyster]

or you can eyeball it and move your launcher forward in the launchers model

and then position the hands again

[stuck oyster]

not in RTM

in character animations the weapon and launcher bone are ALWAYS in same position

on the shoulder

offset to that is made in the 3d model

[south badge]

oh, hmmm

[south badge]

So I use the rig to first position the hands, and then I need to move the model around in its own P3D to align it with the hands ingame? Do I understand the process correctly?

[edgy pulsar]

Oh my god that's brilliant

[stuck oyster]

no

first position the weapon in its model

so you can see where it sits on the shoulder

then position the hands

[edgy pulsar]

I can;t believe someone made that mod. Time to go do war of the worlds on my players.

[south badge]

I eventually managed to get it working somehow, I hope I never have to go through this again

I also still dont understand why the launcher bone in the rig needs to be rotated by -90 degrees on the Y (Blender) axis to "unscrew" the hands. I´d wager this would have come up at some point when someone tried to create a launcher rtm.

[stuck oyster]

because thats how the launcher bone is handled in the pose RTM

the sample launcher tube in the rig is not the best because it does not have so clear up direction to show where it should be

[south badge]

Could it maybe be added to the pinned PDF? Cost me about 3 hours to figure out

Or maybe I am just doing it wrong but honestly I was desperate at this point

[stuck oyster]

and if you got the latest rig it has that cross tube that does not show which way is up

[south badge]

yep I do

[stuck oyster]

this is what the pose looks like

you can use this as reference

[south badge]

Ah, I see

[summer herald]

Hey, how would someone go about brining the above rtm into blender? I need to rig a hand animationa and reload to a custom launcher I'm modeling but I have never done it before

[cloud zealot]

Use Arma 3 Object Builder for Blender, its a blender plugin, it can import RTMs. Use armarig skeleton, remove bones constrains, import rtm

[stuck oyster]

that rtm works with Alwarrens Arma Toolbox too

either is fine

[summer herald]

Thanks! Will give it a go tonight

[white jay]

How do I create a bone in Object Builder — the kind that can be referenced in the skeletonBones[] property in model.cfg? And the strange triangle in the picture — is that the symbol for a bone? If I create a new point set in the Named Selections panel, does that mean I’ve created a new bone?

[charred bolt]

Give the mesh you wish to animate a "named selection", such as otocvez (turret) andotochlaven (gun).
In model.cfg, skeletonBones[] add

"otochlaven", "otocvez"```
Not every named selection is a bone. It only becomes a bone, when it's name is used inside the skeletonBones [] array.

The triangles are placeholders called proxies. They are most often used to give the position for crew characters (pilot, commander, gunner, cargo) or as pointers to other p3d's, which are inserted into the main model.

[white jay]

I’ve created a simple model.cfg file based on the instructions from the wiki. It’s basically pieced together from various sources, and I’m not sure if it’s correct. Could you take a quick look to see if there’s anything wrong with it?

[white jay]

This is a ship, and I want to start by making a simple observation turret without a gun. So, based on the example, I used "commander_turret", "OtocVez", "commander_gun", "commander_turret". Do I need to make any changes?

[charred bolt]

You can simplify it considerably...

[charred bolt]

You can't really discuss a model.cfg without referring to the p3d that goes with it, as they are related.
You should first decide which parts of the ship you want to animate, and give those mesh parts named selections.
Then you will put those name selections into the skeletonBones[] array.
Finally create Animations classes to animate those parts.

[white jay]

Ok, I think I understand the basic process now. I’ll give it a try.

[charred bolt]

If you literally want to try just a single revolving observation turret, give the p3d mesh parts a name such as commander_turret,
two memory points in the Memory LOD called commander_turret_axis
Model.cfg

{
    class TT_Yamato_base_skeleton
    {
        isDiscrete = 1;
        skeletonInherit = "";
        skeletonBones[] = 
        {
            "commander_turret",    ""
        };
    };
};

class CfgModels
{
    class Default
    {
        skeletonName = "";
        sectionsInherit = "";
        sections[] = {};
    };
    class TT_Yamato_base: Default
    {
        skeletonName = "TT_Yamato_base_skeleton";
        sectionsInherit = "Default";
        sections[] = 
        {
            // add your sections here, such as "camo1"
        };
        class Animations
        {
            class ObsTurret
            {
                source = "obsTurret";
                type = "rotation";
                selection = "commander_turret";
                axis = "commander_turret_axis";
                minValue = "rad -360";
                maxValue = "rad +360";
                angle0 = "rad -360";
                angle1 = "rad +360";
            };
        };
    };
};```
and you'll need an animationSource in your config.cpp Turrets class called `obsTurret`

[south badge]

Uhm I have a bit of a pickle that I can´t solve:

I have five separate selections: Magazine, and then one selection for each of the rockets in the magazine.
Right now, the rockets are being individually hidden via the "ammo" source, while the magazine is being hidden via the "magazineReload" source.

Issue is, if I fire, say, only two of the four total rockets and I reload the weapon, the game only hides the two fired off rockets and the magazine selection. The other two rockets are obviously not hidden during the reload animation.

But at the same time I can´t assign the rockets´ selections to both be in the "magazine" vertex group and the "rocket_x" vertex group, no? As that will create a problem with the vertex weight being 200 instead of 100?

[stuck oyster]

this comes down to the skeleton definition

so you would have magazine as

magazine, "",

and then rockets as

"rocket_x", "magazine",

[south badge]

wait, do the rockets have to be child bones?

[stuck oyster]

so they magazine is their parent

[south badge]

ah right, damn

[stuck oyster]

and they inherit the magazines movement and hidden state

[south badge]

Yeah sorry idk how did it not occur to me I have used it a lot of times

[stuck oyster]

😄

♨️
🧠

it happens

[white jay]

class turret property proxyType = "CPCommander"; How do I create the CPCommander proxy in Object Builder, I mean how should I fill in the information in the window shown below?

[stuck oyster]

you can either name it just Commander

or use any of the crew proxy p3ds from data_f

the proxy p3d is a visual assist so you can align the position

[white jay]

I haven’t extracted all the game data to the P: drive, so if I enter the path \A3\data_f\proxies\T100k\Commander.p3d that should work, right? Also, in the created proxy, the right-angled vertex of the triangle should be the origin point of the model in Commander.p3d, correct?

[stuck oyster]

then just name it COMMANDER

without any path

that is enough

[stuck oyster]

and yes right angle is the position

[white jay]

Do you mean putting the three vertices of the triangle into a named selection and naming it “Commander”? (I saw on the wiki that it should be named in a format like "proxy:Commander.XX".) Also, does the face of the triangle represent the orientation of the proxy model? And apart from the vertex, can the other two points be extended indefinitely—making the triangle very large so that it’s easily visible in the View LOD?

[stuck oyster]

no just put COMMANDER in the proxy name field

the name of the proxy is what matters

and if its pathed to a visual representation p3d it takes the name of the p3d

which is why all crew proxies are in different folders and have same names

triangle size does not matter

but I would not make it large as that will affect the object bounds

[white jay]

I don’t understand — I clicked the rename field for this selection, and a new window popped up. If I replace the path shown in the screenshot with “COMMANDER,” how will the engine know the path to commander.p3d?

[bright echo]

cuz it doesnt care about the path it cares about the filename

all its looking for is 'commander'

[stuck oyster]

the p3d is irrelevevant

its just visual component for you the maker

the pose is defined in the config

what the p3d looks like does not matter

it just can be helpful if it looks same as the action you will use

so you can see what it would look like

[white jay]

So in the class Turrets section of the config.cpp file, these four fields:

代码
gunnerLeftHandAnimName = "";
gunnerRightHandAnimName = "";
gunnerLeftLegAnimName = "";
gunnerRightLegAnimName = "";
define the actual posture of the commander after boarding the boat, right. Then there should also be a property that points to a point in the memory LOD

What is that property called? I don’t seem to have found it.

that points to a point in the memory LOD is to indicate where the commander’s model is located.

[stuck oyster]

no

gunner/DriverAction = defines the pose

the AnimName properties can tie hands and feet/legs to animations so they move with that animation

but within the pose

so if youhave a sitting pose for driver with his hands on the wheel

you can tie LeftHandAnim and RightHandAnim = "drivingWheel" animation

and they will then move when the wheel turns

[white jay]

Okay, but what is the property that defines the position of the character model?

[stuck oyster]

thats what the proxy does

the right hand corner is the position where character is attached

driver/gunner/cargoAction = defines the pose

[white jay]

Okay, thanks. I think I understand now.

[summer herald]

Got a weird issue, I've setup a launcher with a model.cfg and one for the hand animation as well but the hands keep doing this in some variation. I've been going crazy trying to fix it and the weirdest part to me is when i sent it to my friend the arms stopped doing this. Any ideas? Is it something with my addon builder or settings somewhere?

[stuck oyster]

yes addon builder cant handle RTMs

as in binarize them

you can either set them to not binarize or use pboProject/Hemmt

[summer herald]

Oh ok tysm!

[summer herald]

And just a quick clarification on this, if my launcher model is too far left and clipping into the players head, the way to offset it is in the model/p3d? Or in the RTM file?

[stuck oyster]

p3d

the launcher is always in same position on the shoulder

[summer herald]

gotcha

[stuck oyster]

so to "move" it you need to move it inside the model

[summer herald]

makes sense! tysm!

[grizzled halo]

how does one go using the rtm in the rig? I have adjusted pre-posing on my own in a way that is close enough to the A3 stances but are ofc not the exact ones. It would greatly help with fine tuning on my end to be able to use the default poses :p

[stuck oyster]

mikeros dertm from the subscriber tools can convert rtms or mrClocks armaObjectBuilder addon can import them

as to how use them in Blender there are many ways

you can simply position the constraint targets in right places and keyframe them in and enable the IK constraints that get disabled on import back on

or you can make multiple rigs and keep the imported rtm in one of them as static reference

my setup has something like 10 rigs to transfer various stages between different poses

the basic movement cycle is the same in all, the weapon position and direction needs adjusting to fit the pose

or anything else you feel comfortable with

theres no 1 right way to make animations

in context of arma, only the result gets outputted, Arma knows nothing about how you get to the result

[grizzled halo]

yeah, thats what i do

thanks! I shall give a look to mrClock thingy

[tribal timber]

How change ODOL version for Addon Builder?

[tribal timber]

I don't want to lose progress again due to a stupid mistake and get the same shit (screenshot) when trying to fix the situation

[stuck oyster]

you cant change odol version of addon builder

[tribal timber]

Heh... As we say in Russia - "Контора оптимистов взялась за работу".
In fact, this killed the entire retexturing for modifications starting in 2025, as well as the ability for developers to return to developing modifications in the event of model source loss. (ssd/hdd/repository losts)

[stuck oyster]

retexturing has never needed models

it has been done just fine for years with just 2d painting on textures

[tribal timber]

2d retexture? This is hell

[stuck oyster]

skill issue I suppose

[tribal timber]

• 2015-2020 flashbacks *

[stuck oyster]

and there is always the possibility to talk to the mod author to make collaborations

and when thats not possible and you dont want to make 2d retexture. Then you dont need that retexture

your want to do things easy or whatever does not trump whatever someone else wants

[tribal timber]

What if the author of the mod - cargo 200?

[stuck oyster]

if you lost your files that is unfortunate

but like its your responsibility to keep track of them.

[tribal timber]

It would have been better if the developers had solved the game's problems instead of updating ODOL. By the way, what new features have been added? (Something really useful)

[south badge]

You really expect anyone to still be actively developing A3?

[tribal timber]

For graphics A2.5 mod*

[stuck oyster]

😛

[tribal timber]

Or by blocking the extraction of models, the developers made it impossible for copyright holders to search for their assets?))

[stuck oyster]

anyway. this isnt going to change.

[cinder summit]

Hello chat

[summer herald]

Hi again, trying to hook up this hand animation, looks good in blender but in game the hands are like offset back for some reason. Probably something stupid but what should I be looking at to try and fix this

[cinder summit]

wrong ch- oh

well

that works

same question, literally

[stuck oyster]

this is beacause the launcher bone is actually around here

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/105462541215358976/1410029611311562994/image.png?ex=68b22ae8&is=68b0d968&hm=8df07da3ff8844ae70a69fc3e3643f03aa0de7698c5f92e74e5d205b40bacd50&

#arma3_model message

[summer herald]

Ah! So I need to move the bone itself?

[stuck oyster]

well preferably you would have the bone in right position in blender to see properly where the weapon model connects to

and can make accurate animation

Like I said earlier you dont move the weapon bone

or launcher bone

they alwaysa are in same position

[summer herald]

ohh

Right that makes way more sense, I thought I had pulled in the launcher skeleton correctly but I just checked it again and it is in no way correctly setup lol

[stuck oyster]

for extreme example

this is a minigun type thingy that is held about at waist height

its offset in the model because the weapon bone for rifles is always at the shoulder

compared to conventionally held rifle

https://media.moddb.com/cache/images/mods/1/26/25069/thumb_620x2000/2015-07-02_00001.jpg

but its held about like this

[cinder summit]

i have follow up questions

[stuck oyster]

weapon bone is still here

[cinder summit]

So, I understand moving forward that's the best practice, but how does that effect the hand position?

Like, let's say I take my launcher bone and move it to the right position, and then the p3d is modified and the hands are positioned to it-

[stuck oyster]

hands are calculated from the weapon holding RTM by their offset to the weapon bone

[cinder summit]

Ah

[stuck oyster]

only hands and fingers

[cinder summit]

Mhm

Ok

That makes sense

[stuck oyster]

the rest of the arm is blended to connect to the hands position

[cinder summit]

ye ye

i remember that part

[stuck oyster]

sort of Inverse Kinematic

[cinder summit]

I just didn't know that it takes the hand position off the offset

[stuck oyster]

thats one thing why the weapon bone should be in right place so you can have the accurate offset to it

[cinder summit]

So I should move my weapon bone to the back, and my launcher bone into the shoulder?

[stuck oyster]

for example this is 100% accurate

weapon bone position

weapon model position

if I want to change weapons position compared to the body

I move it in edit mode insdie the models own space

[cinder summit]

Yeah that's what I did

But

So for the hand positions

[stuck oyster]

Object position still at bone position

[stuck oyster]

then the hands are reposition to match the guns shape

[cinder summit]

So like this instead?

[stuck oyster]

yes

as long as the launchermodel is at same position as the launcher bone

[cinder summit]

Oh well

Yes

It's always been there

like it's always been attached to the launcher bone via a armature deform modifier

Unless you mean something diff

So I exported that and the hands are in the same position, up on the shoulder

[stuck oyster]

😮 are you both making same launcher 😄

[south badge]

Nah I think his isnt the m202

His looks like something from star wars or some other scifi franchise

[stuck oyster]

did you mistake their pictures with mine?

[cinder summit]

it's his launcher lmao we're friends and i've been helping him out and im making the reload for it

[stuck oyster]

aaa

[cinder summit]

he made the launcher and imported and textured it

I can drop my blend in here if it might help to figure out what's wrong?

[stuck oyster]

Ive outlined the requirements

[jovial grove]

is there anyone that knows how to teach making ship mods?? Got tired of waiting for people to make ships so i wanna learn and make some. I have ideas for Chinese static and moving ships

[marble steeple]

What's wrong with my shadow LOD?
http://s30.postimg.org/j9wreq9pt/tkiv2000varjot.jpg

[stuck oyster]

No. The channel can try to answer specific questions but how to from 0 to 100 is too broad question.

First thing you need to learn is 3d modeling

The texturing

[visual hull]

hi. anyone in here willing to help make a weapon mod for arma 3? ive tried modelling it myself but im so inexperienced im making mistakes on mistakes. i would like to make the SAK-21 made by stenzel industries.

if anyone is wondering this is how far i got in 2 days

[fervent steppe]

Is it closed?

[marble steeple]

I tried to check for it in object builder but I'm not sure how it indicates to me if it's not.

[woeful viper]

just keep at it. Making mistakes is a natural part of the process. You can do it

[stuck oyster]

You will just need to keep at it. 3d modeling takes time to learn. You got pretty far there already in just 2 days

[white jay]

Do you know how the selectionFireAnim property in the CfgWeapons class is used? On the wiki, I only found a single sentence:This defines the selection name for muzzleflash proxy. In Czech, the word "zasleh" means muzzleflash. I’d like to know what this proxy should be named. Also, if selectionFireAnim defines the position of the muzzle flash, then what exactly do muzzlePos and muzzleEnd define?

Also, if this parameter only affects the muzzle flash, right? If I’m not using a muzzle flash and only define the muzzle effect through class GunParticles, then I don’t need the selectionFireAnim parameter, correct.

[stuck oyster]

selectionFireAnim = "anythingYouWantToNameIt" can be anything you want

as long as you then have corresponding selection in your weapon p3d that incorporates your muzzleflash mesh or proxy

the muzzleflash has nothing to do with where the bullet comes out

its just visual piece of mesh

the muzzle position paramters define what you need to name the memorypoints that define where bullet comes from

(check the sample weapon)

also the selection you define with selectionFireAnim needs to be listed in the sections[] array of the p3ds model cfg class

[white jay]

If the positionName and directionName properties in the class GunParticles of CfgWeapons define the position and direction of the muzzle effect, then what effect’s position does selectionFireAnim define?

[charred bolt]

The muzzle flash. Can be completely somewhere different to the bullets if you really wanted.

[white jay]

I don’t think I understood what you meant. What’s the relationship between muzzle flash and the bullet? I know that when a bullet or shell is fired, the muzzle emits a particle effect, and the bullet itself also has a particle effect attached to it. Are you talking about the latter?

Muzzle flash refers to the former, right? Is my understanding of the definition of ‘muzzle flash’ incorrect?

[stuck oyster]

muzzleflash is separate thing from the gunParticles effects

muzzleflash is the fire that flashes

gunParticles are the smoke etc

[charred bolt]

Muzzle flash is a cosmetic effect. Usually a bright light that displays when the weapon fires.
It's position is completely independant of the actual bullet path.

[white jay]

But muzzle flash is also a particle effect, right? If it’s a particle, which property defines the name of the CfgCloudlets class it uses?

[stuck oyster]

no

[charred bolt]

No, it's a p3d

[stuck oyster]

technically you can even model it into the weapon

but as proxies they can be used easily on multiple weapons

and you can use the vanilla ones or make your own

[white jay]

So the muzzleflash proxy should be just like the proxies we discussed earlier, only providing a position, right? Which property is this position used for?

[white jay]

Just like the proxies we discussed earlier, it provides a position for a property in config.cpp that defines where the commander’s model will be when they get in. Which property is this muzzleflash proxy used for?

I mean, what exactly is the purpose of the muzzleflash proxy?

[charred bolt]

#arma3_model message

[white jay]

OK, so it’s fine if a weapon doesn’t define a muzzleflash proxy, right? For example, I’m making a ship’s turret, which usually only needs a smoke effect and doesn’t require a muzzle flash, correct?

[charred bolt]

If you don't want a muzzle flash, don't add the muzzle flash proxy to the p3d.
And set selectionFireAnim = "";

[white jay]

OK, I’m just really curious — is the muzzleflash a light source or a particle effect? Because whichever it is, it can be defined in class GunParticles, right? So what’s the actual purpose of the muzzleflash? The reason I’m asking is that later on I’ll be adding naval anti‑aircraft turrets, and these are all small‑caliber machine guns, which might need to use the muzzleflash proxy, so I’d like to get this clear.

[stuck oyster]

yes light is particle effect

the "muzzleflash" is just the visual flame

you take it too literally

[charred bolt]

The muzzle flash proxy is a pointer to a p3d.
That p3d has a mesh and is uv mapped with a texture of a flame and flash.
The material rvmat on that texture includes emissive properties.
It does not move, it is not a particle effect. It can be animated to rotate however in the main model.

Yes, you can have guns on your ship without muzzle flashes, and multiple other weapons with muzzle flashes.

[white jay]

The one in this picture is the muzzleflash, right? (I also see some smoke in the picture.) So I’m guessing the muzzleflash is that small flame image with an emissive color — which could be completely simulated using the CfgCloudlets class, correct? So my conclusion is that the particle generated by muzzleflash is engine‑built and cannot be modified by modders, and that it’s also fine not to use the muzzleflash proxy at all — the effect can be fully replaced with class GunParticles, and this applies to guns or cannons of any caliber. Correct?

[stuck oyster]

no this is all the model

the sparks and all that

[charred bolt]

I don't think he's listening at this point

[stuck oyster]

you can see what they look like if you make such a proxy and see it in buldozer preview

[stuck oyster]

could be

your conclusions are way off 😅

[white jay]

Maybe… my brain isn’t really clear at this hour anymore.

[white jay]

Anyway, the main point is that I now know weapons can work without using muzzle flashes, and that’s enough for me to finish the configuration. Thank you all.

[stuck oyster]

👍

[stuck oyster]

we do recommend proper sleep

modding with clear head is quite a lot more fruitful

[fervent steppe]

If it's not closed it will highlight the verts

[eternal jasper]

I was wondering if any might have a clue as to why im getting these errors after publishing my mod. I've gone through the models and they seem fine, textures were assigned in object builder (and the p/ part removed) but they dont seem to want to appear at all

[stuck oyster]

path you defined and what the path is inside the pbo do not match

Id recommend folder structure like P:\ModTAG\TAG_yourCoolMod\ (insert config, p3d, modelcfg)\data\ (insert .paa .rvmat)

also tag_ prefix your files like p3d and paa and rvmat so they are easily distinguishable

[eternal jasper]

Alright, so make sure the pathway in the model matches this exactly for the texture allocation and model implementation, and make sure to put .paa/.p3d at the end of each item

[stuck oyster]

ah you are not using P drive

[stuck oyster]

no

[eternal jasper]

Right

[stuck oyster]

How do you pack the pbo?

[eternal jasper]

Right click - pbo manager - pack

[stuck oyster]

pboManager is not really proper tool to pack addon pbos

missions sure

for addons it is really recommended to set up the proper modding environment with P drive and use more advanced mod packing tools like PboProject or HEMMT

but addon builder also can sometimes work out

[eternal jasper]

Alright i see

I'll have to go have another go at it

[tribal rain]

i have a question for yall ok so my tank has a serious issue wherein it is stuck in this constant pitched angle? what could be causing it?

ive looked at the dampening, ive looked at the land contact, the geometry physx and the config.cpp theres nothing which is jumping out to me as to why its acting weird but from what i can tell it looks like "Wheel3" of the Right track is being interupted by something?

[stuck oyster]

your wheel setup is not right.

axis points could be wrong way or if you are missing wheel points you might have wheels defaulting in the middle of the model

[tribal rain]

so question how would i be able to determine which way is the "correct" orientation that is needed when the axis points are just 2 verts 😅

[charred bolt]

When you view your tank in Buldozer, cycle to the Damper animation source.
At 0, your wheels should be at maximum droop (down) and at 1, they should have moved up to maximum compression.
If this is reversed for all/any wheels, you can swap the two memory points around that make up the damper axis.

[tribal rain]

nope looks good to me no inverse guide wheels on any

ive only shown the affected side as the other side is working fine

[charred bolt]

Maybe post your config on pastebin

[tribal rain]

copy standby

[tribal rain]

wait which one config.cpp or model cfg?

[charred bolt]

config

[tribal rain]

copy

[tribal rain]

https://srcb.in/C7Nm19oRCM

[charred bolt]

looking

[charred bolt]

Looks pretty decent on the physx side of things.
Suggest you next check these memory points are named correctly, and don't share names with anything else
wheel_2_4_axis wheel_2_4_bound

[tribal rain]

copy

[charred bolt]

Also check the wheel itself wheel_podkolop3 has no other selection names attached to it except perhaps "camo" or "zbytek" type texture swapping

[south badge]

Uh, are there any guidelines as to what the aspect ratio and size of magazine icons are supposed to be? It seems impossible to make it look good

It´s either too big, or too small, or the text gets placed over the icon

[bright echo]

magazines should be 1:1

256x256 is probably the best resolution for them as any larger gets crunched down with no filtering

weapons are 2:1

[south badge]

[marble steeple]

Then it is closed.

[fervent steppe]

Make sure all the everything is sharp edges as well

Select that whole lod and press u

[marble steeple]

did that and it changed some of the edges but I'm still having the same issue in game.

although, not as radically, now some of the different parts of the gun make those lines.

[cloud zealot]

By the way, i have a question for the community: does anyone knows why there is no female character on Arma 3 ? Because i've been surprised to see they started the config and skeletons for female character, so what made them stop ?

[elder ermine]

just a quick question just to verify

the high face count is making the game stutter everytime its loaded right

[stuck oyster]

perhaps

[elder ermine]

actually it might be the problem

i forgot to decimate 😭

20,000 faces

[stuck oyster]

20k is not really a problem

[elder ermine]

hmm

[stuck oyster]

unless you dont have distance lods and you got hundreds of them on screen

[elder ermine]

i might have to get distance lods

i was porting over quixel props for scenebuilding so thats why i didnt really get them

[stuck oyster]

[elder ermine]

dw ive heard

quixel can have hella polys

thats why i came here first 😭

[stuck oyster]

stutter on load usually indicates either load of errors in the mod or you might be loadin unbinarized data so it has to process it first

how do you pack the pbo?

[fervent steppe]

How many faces is that shadow lod?

Only other thing I can think of is make sure it is inside the first lods volume....does that make sense to you?

[runic plover]

Sounds more like your source is not binarized to pbo file
Same question like HorribleGoat, with which program do you pack your source folder to pbo file?

[elder ermine]

i usually just do it with pbomanager since thats the only tool i have besides addon builder

[marsh canyon]

That's the issue

[elder ermine]

oh

alr gotcha

ill switch over

[marble steeple]

Yeah, so it's smaller than the actual view model.

How can I see the number of faces?

I haven't made this model, I'm just trying to get it into the game. Our modeler made all the LODs but he is away ATM and I'm trying to get shit done 😃

[fervent steppe]

Just go to the lod and look at the bottom of o2 it should say the number of faces...you may need to select the whole model first.

[plush trail]

hello I have been facing issues with weird shadows with the models I made

both on the gun and on the ground (seen as the shadow string on the gun)

I sense it's something on the wording of my rvmat files

[charred bolt]

Check that the shadow LOD of the magazine is CLOSED, TRIANGULATED and SHARP.

[plush trail]

Shadow Volume or Stencil Shadow

my stencil shadows are closed

I found some non sharp edges

I did select-> select sharp edges

[plush trail]

if I mark it sharp will that help

or do I need to do something extra

does arma need them to be sharp at 30deg

[charred bolt]

No idea about blender definitions, but you can import into Object Builder and use the menu to make them sharp.

[plush trail]

where is that? The option in OB

select all and then press sharp edges (U) ?

[white jay]

I’m using a configuration similar to the one below to try to set up a turret with three guns. I want all three guns to work independently, but at the moment only one of them can fire, and I can’t figure out why.
class CfgWeapons
{
class Cannon_Left: autocannon_Base_F {
gunBeg = "muzzle_1_beg"; // Memory LOD 里的第1根炮管起点
gunEnd = "muzzle_1_end"; // 第1根炮管终点
};

class Cannon_Center: autocannon_Base_F {
    gunBeg = "muzzle_2_beg";
    gunEnd = "muzzle_2_end";
};

class Cannon_Right: autocannon_Base_F {
    gunBeg = "muzzle_3_beg";
    gunEnd = "muzzle_3_end";
};

};

class Turrets {
class MainTurret: NewTurret {
weapons[] = {"Cannon_Left", "Cannon_Center", "Cannon_Right"};
magazines[] = {"MyShells", "MyShells", "MyShells"};
};
};

[plush trail]

all fixed on the gun need to do it on all the floor models.

[white jay]

Also, I’m curious — if gunBeg and gunEnd are already defined in the cfgWeapons class, then what is the purpose of the gunBeg and gunEnd parameters in the class Turret?

[stuck oyster]

In cfg weapons those are for the hand held weapon

In cfgvhehicles turrets they are for the vehicles turrets barrels

[stuck oyster]

You don't want all to be sharp edges. Only the ones actually sharp

Curve segment edges should be smooth

[plush trail]

it's only for the shadows

the normal LOD works normal

blender broke the shadows

[stuck oyster]

right yes shadows you need to have all triangulated and sharp 👍

also remember that you must not have hiddenSelections in shadow lod

[marble steeple]

475 for the ShadowVolume 0.000 LOD

[fervent steppe]

That's good

[marble steeple]

the shadowvolume lod has the property LodNoShadow = 1, is that a problem?

[quick terrace]

lol^^ yes

shadowlod volume(s) should be closed, triangulated and hardedged. There should be no UV data for them, and there should ne no named properties either

[fervent steppe]

Yea lol. lodNoshadow=1 in the named property of that lod means it will not be used as a shadow lod...so yea lol. As pufu says that is a problem lol

Yea can add that named property to all the other lods tho. To keep the engine from trying to render them as one

[bleak tangle]

I'm curious how this will work "Our programmers have decided to make the lives of content creators easier, mainly for those creating new models. They will be able to use a technology that generates shadows of objects on-the-fly based on the shape of a resolution LOD." (from this sitrep http://dev.arma3.com/post/sitrep-00138)