arma3_model

[jovial osprey]

bruh

[stuck oyster]

no bruh

[jovial osprey]

yes bruh

[stuck oyster]

you need to be sure

[jovial osprey]

Ok

[stuck oyster]

people here dont want to waste their time on that crap

[charred bolt]

From reading the convo, I'm going to suggest that the time and effort it will take to make the cool vehicle will be longer and tougher than you would find acceptable. Arma modding can be difficult (but very rewarding because of that).
So I'd suggest that your best way forward would be to search the workshop for an existing mod that you and your friends can download and enjoy in games straight away.

[jovial osprey]

Ok

[woeful viper]

no it wasnt possible before (without script hacks)... unless you count a floating tank that can't move in the water amphibious...

[real crow]

can't get it working yet

[charred bolt]

Post your latest anim code

[real crow]

yes sir

[charred bolt]

Also just post the relevant class here so we don't have to guess which bit in that entire file please

[real crow]

you are right indeed, one second

[real crow]

https://pastebin.com/eqFvn9nN

my hammers are already in the cocked position

by default in the p3d

[charred bolt]

How many bullets in the magazine?

[real crow]

just 2

[charred bolt]

Does your hammer move in buldozer with the ammo source?

[real crow]

yes

[charred bolt]

have you tried reload as animationsource?

[real crow]

i can try it now, but im unsure about the max/min values

[charred bolt]

The movement when reloading. Source is 1 as soon as shot is fired and returns to 0 within in reload time.
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Model_Config

[real crow]

because the hammer rotation is inscribed in 2 parts, the forward rotatio and the one that brings it back into cocked position

so its confusing applying the 0.0 to 0.5 and 0.5 to 1 values to a total of four animations (i hope i explained it clear)

[charred bolt]

1.0 to 0.5 ... hammer falls
0.5 to 0.0 ... hammer returns to cocked back
perhaps?

or shorten times, so hammer falls quickly

[real crow]

example as of now class bolt_back2
{
type="rotation";
source="ammo";
selection="bolt2";
axis="bolt_axis";//probably
// sourceAddress = clamp;// (default)
minValue = 0.5;//rad 20.626482
maxValue = 0.75;//rad 44.11775
angle0 = 0.0;//rad 0.0;
angle1 = 0.7853982;//rad -45.0;
animPeriod = 0.0;
initPhase = 0.0;
// memory = true;//(default assumed)
};
class bolt_forth2
{
type="rotation";
source="ammo";
selection="bolt2";
axis="bolt_axis";//probably
// sourceAddress = clamp;// (default)
minValue = 0.75;//rad 54.43099
maxValue = 1.0;//rad 57.29578
angle0 = 0.0;//rad 0.0;
angle1 = -0.7853982;//rad 45.0;
animPeriod = 0.0;
initPhase = 0.0;
// memory = true;//(default assumed)
};

[charred bolt]

You can use ammo but then it depends on how many bullets are left in the mag, so can be more complicated.
ie. ammo runs from 1 to 0, 1 being mag full and 0 when empty

maybe something like this (untested)

{
    source = "reload";
    type = "rotation";
    selection = "hammer";
    axis = "hammer_axis";
    minValue = 0.9;
    maxValue = 1.0;
    angle0 = "rad -45";
    angle1 = "rad 0";
};
class hammer_fire2: hammer_fire1
{
    minValue = 0.0;
    maxValue = 0.4;
    angle0 = "rad 45";
    angle1 = "rad 0";
};```

edited ^

[real crow]

alright, i will test it and i will try also a round of tests for the ammo source with inverted min/max values (starting from 1 and inishing to 0)

[charred bolt]

no don't invert them, minValue needs to be lower than maxValue, but just imagine them running backwards in your head in relation to the rotations

note I'm still suggesting you try reload initially

[real crow]

okok

[real crow]

mm the hammers are two since it is a double barrel shotgun, so should i use the same values as this example for both hammers?

wouldn't it trigger them at the same time if they would use the same values?

[charred bolt]

Oh that might be awkward then yes

[real crow]

yeah that's why im confused

[charred bolt]

in that case, you will have to use ammo

ammo will be 1 when mag full, 0.5 when 1 bullet left, 0 when empty

[real crow]

with using ammo in bulldozer it works, by dividing from 0 to 1 in 4 parts, but then in game the hammers close only when all mag is empty

[charred bolt]

Ammo source, 2 bullets in mag
bolt1
1.00... rad 0 (not fired)
0.95... rad 45 (1st bullet fired, bolt1 moves)
0.70...rad 0 (start moving bolt1 back)
0.55... rad -45 (bolt1 returned)

bolt2
0.50... rad 0 (2nd bullet not fired)
0.45... rad 45 (2nd bullet fired, bolt2 moves)
0.20...rad 0 (start moving bolt2 back)
0.05... rad -45 (bolt2 returned)

[real crow]

from 1 to 0.55 yep, so min value here is higher than max value? 😵‍💫

[charred bolt]

#arma3_model message

I've written out the logical sequence, now that needs to be written as model.cfg code where minValue is lower than maxValue

[real crow]

okok

[charred bolt]

So there will be 4 classes, 2 for each bolt

[real crow]

indeed

[charred bolt]

first will be bolt1
minValue = 0.55;
maxValue = 0.70;
angle0 = "rad -45";
angle1 = "rad 0";

2nd for bolt 1 will be
minValue = 0.95;
maxValue = 1.00;
angle0 = "rad 45";
angle1 = "rad 0";

repeat for bolt2 but using min/maxValues from ammo based on sequence in range 0 to 0.5

[real crow]

fantastic okk

[charred bolt]

This kind of stuff does mess with your head a bit, so needs checking in buldozer as you write it - can't promise I've got it exactly right, but it should give you enough to work with, especially understanding that ammo runs from 1 to 0 over the magazine and how to split to work in game

[real crow]

ok, so just like revolving, from 1 to 0

got it

[bright echo]

if its just a double barrel with two shots per 'mag' i'd go with just revolving yeah

if its some weird shit like a double barrel magazine fed shotgun then things get complicated

[real crow]

Revolving was the solution yes

[sour bough]

Amazing idea. I will take this cursed object into my soul and model it someday.

[fallen compass]

One question, you already have the gun bones but how do I export it? Or alternatively create more lods or something like that?

[jolly ermine]

Idk if I should but it here but is anyone working on a CV90 model by chance?

[livid portal]

You don't need or use the bones, you make vertex groups and then you control it within model.cfg

You need to export as .p3d, you need this addon https://github.com/AlwarrenSidh/ArmAToolbox

[fallen compass]

Okok

[fallen compass]

Although I have 4.3.2

[pallid nexus]

Try arma 3 object builder if arma toolbox doesn't work for you.
Arma toolbox will probably work though.
https://extensions.blender.org/add-ons/arma3objectbuilder/

[fallen compass]

Thanks

A question, I have the model cfg ready and everything but I don't want to load the animations in the bulldozer

I have the memory points and everything

[pallid nexus]

You can always just try packing it and test ingame with a minimal config
I can't help with model.cfg, haven't gotten to doing myself yet

[shrewd ermine]

Does anyone know how to fix this issue when I export from blender I get this in object builder. The sections with the big white and purple squares textures fine when both using hidden selections in the config file and assigning directly in object builder but the sections with the small purple and white dotted spaces either is a black or a solid color close to that of the texture. Ive tried to remake the p3d but that doesnt seem to help it.

[pallid island]

dots look like small squares. Meaning a very big/stretched UV is i'm correct

[livid portal]

Bulldozer is mainly just to see if the model works as it should without having to pack the model every few seconds. Also it looks like it's invisible, i don't know if you just selected the whole thing before launching bulldozer or if you have inverted normals. But to get it ingame like Raven mentions you need a config.cpp

[livid portal]

They are however the UV is made for them regardless color or texture, you may need to make your own or update your UVs in Blender.

[stuck oyster]

What's the model from..

[gritty vigil]

Should I be able to see my textures in some capacity in object builder? I checked it out in the preview and I'm not seeing the textures applied. Seemed to have just worked for the tutorial I was following

Baked out a NOHQ, AS, and CO from blender, converted to paa and plugged them into the rvmat, plugged the rvmat and the CO into the material in arma 3 toolbox for blender before exporting as p3d.

Not sure where I've went wrong

I end up with the glasses just in plain white

I think the only thing I did differently from the tutorial was that I used a CO and not a CA for the base color map, idk if that would break it. I also used an rvmat created in jdtools.dev instead of starting off one in the game files, idk if that could be my issue

[livid portal]

CA is only used for transparent parts, you would still be able to see the texture as CO

Make sure you applied the CO/CA texture onto the model

Highlight the model in Object Builder, press E and choose texture and rvmat

[livid portal]

You don't do it to the material itself, scroll down on that list, should be a place where you put it

[gritty vigil]

should be this right?

or wait, is it looking in the a3 folder by default? Do I need to specify full paths?

oh yup that was exactly the issue

Oh... wow. I thought I could get away with the quick and dirty texture bake, looked ok in blender, but I see arma is not happy with me now

Thanks for the help with getting the testures sorted, back to the 3d dungeon I go

[real crow]

hey peeps, about amphibious vehicles (tracked one), the geo buoancy other than being a sigle component, is there any particular proprety to add? Also, the propeller source animation should be "inWater" or "Propeller"?

#arma3_config message I ask because i just read this

i also have a rudder, but i guess there is no way to animate the rudder according to the steering directions on a tracked vehicle

the vehicle is a soviet t-38 tank

[livid portal]

Check if you got inverted normals

[gritty vigil]

can that be checked in OB?

according to blender its good

[livid portal]

No clue, only use Blender for models

[marsh canyon]

Blender > Backface culling

[gritty vigil]

I think its just a case of my bake gave me an absolutely atrocious texture map, probably because I'm not doing it right I just wanted to see if I could get it in game so I threw smart UV project at it and didnt bake a low poly or anything. Its still in its subdiv hipoly state

I think its just a consequence of me cutting corners because I was excited lol

[stuck oyster]

ye no that wont work. no cutting corners!!

[livid portal]

If they are just supposed to be one color, you don't really need a texture at all then 😅

[gritty vigil]

There should be more going on there, well. I guess they are gonna just be black, but there are normals and specular to be had

Unless you mean just code the color and generate maps for the material

[livid portal]

If one is a bit lazy like myself lol this site is useful https://cpetry.github.io/NormalMap-Online/ as well as https://boundingboxsoftware.com/materialize/, all you need is the main texture, the rest can be made using these

But yeah fairs if more color is wanted then nevermind on the other

[gritty vigil]

The interesting thing is the normal map and AO map baked correctly, I think

lemme check that again lol

[livid portal]

If you don't know, for normals make sure the models is blue everywhere and not red anywhere unless intended

[gritty vigil]

Yup. Yeah it looks like the normals baked "ok" (I still gotta lowpoly and unwrap it properly)

the base color is the only one that looked messed up

[fallen compass]

How can I make the flash move?

I already have it defined in the model cfg but I don't know why it doesn't move randomly

[livid portal]

@fallen compassCan you share your model.cfg?

[fallen compass]

I already solved it, I had to place the zasleh vertex group on the muzzle proxy

[livid portal]

Bet, yeah

[fallen compass]

Now that I've made the weapon, any ideas on how I could make the texture?

[livid portal]

UV it, Export UV and then use a texturing software, most uses substance painter or photoshop but both paid, but if you got either i guess that (GIMP can be used too which is free)

[fallen compass]

Is there any tutorial?

[livid portal]

Plenty, depends which software you wish to use

Any texturing process has the general same method, so any video can be used when it comes to textures (you don't need any specific topic)

[fallen compass]

oks

[shrewd ermine]

3DMA marketplace

[sour bough]

I'm a fan of the Damascus Steel patterns in the UV

[stuck oyster]

😛

[sour bough]

(Jesus christ what is that even)

[stuck oyster]

broken uvsets.

[sour bough]

very broken

[stuck oyster]

@shrewd ermine you cant really skip understanding modeling by buying models

that one dont seem to be very game ready

[pallid island]

https://www.3dmilitaryassets.com/products/avs-plate-carrier-v2 40k faces

[sour bough]

that's uhhhh

Real big

[stuck oyster]

with each part having 4k textures

gawd

[sour bough]

sixteen times the detail

[stuck oyster]

sixteen times less frames

[pallid island]

i mean, high-to-low is a valid workflow... except you still need to model low-poly to get them detailes baked on 🤣

[stuck oyster]

sure it can be fixed and textures can be baked.

[pallid island]

15 pixels out of every 16 fall out of 0..1 UV range

[stuck oyster]

thats the cant skip understanding 3d part

[sour bough]

oh no

[pallid island]

i mean, if it includes pre-made lower-res LODs it can be useful, ja? :3

[stuck oyster]

possibly. would still need at least uvmapping and texture baking

vest like that should have max 2 textures/materials I think.

[pallid island]

meh, i'm kinda curious, but not $30 curious

[stuck oyster]

😅

[sour bough]

Could probably get away with just one with good UV packing too

[bold flare]

Game-Ready 3D model

[stuck oyster]

yeeeeh

and we can wonder why games run poorly

[pallid island]

inb4 "how do i weight-paint it"

[sour bough]

assign it to spine2 and let it clip a little

[stuck oyster]

no lods btw

[sour bough]

Wait

Those gloves are familiar

Is this in USP?

[pallid island]

ah, it's a screenshot from marketplace. I got scared for a bit here

i mean, wireframe looks dense in some places, but mostly sensible?

[real crow]

sorry to interrupt the current topic, propeller source worked fine. I just have a peculiar issue: my vehicle won't float on water, and it is barely possible to steer it when in the water (submerged or at surface level water crossig). I guess it has to do with physx config stuff, right? Any particular values in this case i should check?

[gritty vigil]

most 3dma assets are in 3dma western dusk on the workshop, I think a lot were made speicifcally for it

[pallid island]

The ideal displacement LOD is built of a single component which matches (approximately) the shape of the hull. It is important that the volume be reasonably close to the real volume of the ship, as this is used for buoyancy calculations.
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Ships_Config_Guidelines#LODs_(included_in_Arma_3_boat_p3ds)
kinda sounds like a real volume calculation... or am i crazy? Lemme check by changing a vanilla boat mass or something

[gritty vigil]

@sour bough the exact model you have is already in this mod https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=3030830594

[pallid island]

@shrewd ermine probably

[stuck oyster]

what named properties you got for it?

@shrewd ermine looks like your work has already been done

[gritty vigil]

oh whoops, pinged the wrong person

my b

[livid portal]

Forgot about that site, good looking models

[gritty vigil]

I dont know why but I'm really not a fan of how they look in game. Might just be weird normals or something but the creases and shadows and stuff are really strong

[livid portal]

Depends how they are setup, texture quality etc, you can achieve "realistic" looking textures if done right

[gritty vigil]

Damn, i got the glasses in game woohoo. Its between my legs but it's in game.

I have my vertex group named "head" which containes all the vertexes in the model, and the class inherits from "ArmaMan" in model.cfg which seems to be the common problems that cause it to show up there, did I miss anything obvious thats causing this?

[sour bough]

I don't have that model

[gritty vigil]

Yeah I realized you were just a part of the conversation not the original poster, sorry

[sour bough]

hello

[stuck oyster]

Modelcfg classname not same as p3d name P3D

actually requirements are listed in one of the pinned messages

[gritty vigil]

it should be identical, I think I have that already. I have fuelcell.p3d and my modelcfg is class fuelcell: ArmaMan{};

based on your message about headgear and cfgmodels in the pins

oh my lord is it capital H Head?

nope, that didn't do it either

[livid portal]

Try in Geometry, autocenter 0

[gritty vigil]

ah yes, I had that set already too

[charred bolt]

• buoyancy 1 in the Geometry LOD
• single object (closed, convex, Component01) in the Geometry Buoyancy LOD, roughly same size as tank hull
• canFloat = 1;
• various other config parameters for physx, most starting with water
• animations that should be enabled when in water, use `source = "inWater" in model.cfg
• rudder animation, use source = "drivingWheel";

[gritty vigil]

in the properties right? or did I put it in the wrong spot

OH

Each LOD has its own

I see

[livid portal]

yea

[gritty vigil]

alright, let me try that again lol

[charred bolt]

Only put LOD properties in the Geometry LOD.
The only thing to ever go anywhere else is lodnoshadow in resolution LOD's

(slightly simplified rule, but almost always true)

[gritty vigil]

should I be inherently putting lodnoshadow in all of my resolution LOD's?

[charred bolt]

yes, if you're using a Shadow LOD

[gritty vigil]

Ah, yup that makes sense. I'll add that

[charred bolt]

also use prefershadowvolume 1 in Geo LOD when using Shadow LOD

[gritty vigil]

damn this tutorial did not talk about any such things bless you guys for the knowledge

[charred bolt]

Some things change in the game engine - you'll often see old samples with sbsource = shadowvolume in the Geo LOD properties, but this is now incorrect and throws errors on build, as an example of obsolete info.

[gritty vigil]

hmmm.. even with autocenter 0 and prefershadowvolume 1 in geometry LOD and the shadows turned off on all other LOD's, I'm still getting the thing between my legs

[charred bolt]

Can you show a screenshot of the first res LOD in side view from Object Builder?

[gritty vigil]

is this what you mean?

[charred bolt]

Yes, but show the origin in the same shot (zoom out)

[gritty vigil]

damn those origin lines show up a lot better in the screenshot than they do in the application. I didn't even notice they were a different color

[charred bolt]

Looks about right

[gritty vigil]

I used the model.cfg from Test_Character_01 from the samples and just replaced their class definitions with my own, that should be correct right?

[charred bolt]

You've got the model.cfg and p3d in the same folder? Think I saw you confirm model.cfg class name matched the p3d name.

[livid portal]

Currently what i got in my glasses

[stuck oyster]

are geometry lod named properties in place?

[gritty vigil]

yup same folder, \fuelcell

[charred bolt]

post model.cfg please

[livid portal]

And also this is the model.cfg can't remember why it's structure like this but it is

[gritty vigil]

oh lawd let me pastebin that

https://pastebin.com/9P7EW6Qc

[charred bolt]

maybe pivotsModel="A3\anims_f\data\skeleton\SkeletonPivots.p3d";

[gritty vigil]

I know I probably dont need the references to every single bone in the dudes body but I wasn't sure so I didn't want to go deleting things. Only thing I changed was the class definition at the bottom, class fuelcell

Try it without pivotsModel?

[livid portal]

You currently got pivotsModel="Samples_F\TemplateRTM\ManSkeleton_Pivots.p3d";

[gritty vigil]

OH

That probably isnt a game file lol

[charred bolt]

no, change to the one I posted

by the way, all that htMin, htMax stuff about thermals shouldn't be in the model.cfg, BI put it there in error and everyone copies it. They're config values.

[gritty vigil]

changed to the a3 skeletonpivots, still between my legs. I'll clean up the config stuff thats laying about as well ty for pointing that out

[charred bolt]

What are you building with? Using a p drive?
After building, are you placing a new instance of the asset in Eden Editor, or using a saved mission file?

[gritty vigil]

I wonder if there's anything wrong in my process

Blender -> A3toolbox export -> objectbuilder -> addon builder to pack?

[gritty vigil]

Using the virtual arsenal to look at it

[charred bolt]

Addon builder is "ok", but it won't tell you about any errors and will pack rubbish.
So must keen modders use mikero's pboProject or HEMTT.
And most use a p drive to develop on.

[gritty vigil]

My files are not in the P drive, I've got a folder in documents that holds my arma projects, I only just mounted my P drive or really touched mikeros today

[charred bolt]

When someone runs into problems, installing and using pboProject usually highlights the issue fairly immediately.

[gritty vigil]

I'll pack it with that and see if it shouts at me

[charred bolt]

There's an all-in-one installer (free) and it will also unpack the game files to p:\a3 for you

[livid portal]

Also, i don't know how many has had it happen but i've experienced most of the bugs happen due overwritting same p3d name over and over, so in some cases, changing p3d name could fix something.

[gritty vigil]

arma3p?

oh, nvm AIO installer

I see it lol

[charred bolt]

That can sometimes happen as the p3d is stored in a temp cache, and on occasion the cached p3d will get used, rather than the newly edited one. If you spot issues like that, just delete the p:\temp folder

[gritty vigil]

did.... did pboProject just sing me a song?

[livid portal]

Ahh that easy eh, thanks!

[charred bolt]

lol, probably yes... it can be turned off in the settings somewhere

[gritty vigil]

I see that pboProject is not happy with me

moved my stuff over to the p drive and tried to pack it

[livid portal]

How many errors you got? 😄

[gritty vigil]

a couple

OH Right

ahhhh

[livid portal]

Ah well when you move them, you gotta redirect 😄

[gritty vigil]

e\ I should have known better than to throw something random in to break the pathing to the textures

[livid portal]

remember in OB as well on model

[gritty vigil]

Thats where I broke it, I threw e\ into the thing so it wouldn't find the textures becasue I havent rebaked them yet

Oh my god Mikero, I just about lept out of my chair when it started playing hallelujah

[livid portal]

Go to here if you don't wanna fall off your chair

[gritty vigil]

Thank you lol

well, PboProject built it happily but its still between my legs

[charred bolt]

That's a step forward in trouble shooting, although it might not seem like it

[gritty vigil]

Nah I feel it, every error is an error

and more issues ruled out with bad setup

[charred bolt]

Have you verified that the pbo you are building is actually getting into game - we've all at some time built pbo's and not seen them change in game, only to find we were sending the output to the wrong mod folder

[gritty vigil]

I have indeed, mikeros built in into @fuelcell/addons/addons, fixed that and verified that the textures are now unbroken

[charred bolt]

Ohh, ShadowVolume LOD should be numbered 0.000 not sure that's "it", but it's something

[gritty vigil]

anything evil in this that might not be a critical error but still breaking?

[charred bolt]

Looks like the rvmat(s) might be bad, but don't think that would change it's position

[gritty vigil]

fixed the rvmat error about not a paa or #arg

still between the legs though

man this one stubborn pair of glasses

[charred bolt]

Did the SV change?

[livid portal]

Just for the sake of info, did you apply transforms before exporting the p3d?

[gritty vigil]

in blender? yeah

[livid portal]

aight

[gritty vigil]

yup, all zeros for transformations (1 for scale)

[gritty vigil]

the SV?

[livid portal]

wait

In your Geometry, did you do autocenter 0?

[gritty vigil]

yup

[livid portal]

Here you don't have it

ah

[gritty vigil]

That was looking at LOD 1

this is Geometry LOD

[charred bolt]

Try this model.cfg instead and confirm you have unpacked the a3 files to p:\

[gritty vigil]

yup, I've got the A3 folder in p:\ with all the unpacked game files

[livid portal]

May want a component01 in there, at least i've got one and know mine works (unsure if you need it though, but incase it is)

[gritty vigil]

vertex group?

[gritty vigil]

oh wait

[gritty vigil]

this did it

[livid portal]

ah cool

[gritty vigil]

what the heck magic did you do

[charred bolt]

Don't think you need any Geometry mesh in the Geo LOD at all for glasses

[livid portal]

Yeah don't got a visual mesh either, got generated a component, not sure if required tho

[charred bolt]

Suspected your model.cfg was a bit messed up

[gritty vigil]

thats almost dope I just gotta.... finish the lowpoly and bake it properly so the textures actually exist lmao

[charred bolt]

Congrats!

[livid portal]

Noice! Good one

[stuck oyster]

👓

[gritty vigil]

ty! Thank you guys a whole bunch for the help. Do you know what part of the model.cfg was busted or how it was busted? Or how you fixed it? I know I'll be doing more of this so nonzero chance I run into the same issue again

[charred bolt]

I sent you one that we used many times for DLC work. So I guess you can do a comparison to find out where your's differs and that's probably the fault.

[livid portal]

Noticed yours didn't have this part though dunno if that is the case either 😄

[gritty vigil]

lol one of the big differences is this one is OFP2_ManSkeleton and mine was just ManSkeleton, but I'd imagine ManSkeleton isnt a broken config because if it was really busted it would probably have been fixed by now

unless the samples are no longer being maintained... 13 year old game and all

[charred bolt]

The samples are notoriously, um, sub-optimal

[gritty vigil]

[real crow]

only bouyancy 1 in geo lod and autocenter 0 in geo lod

[charred bolt]

get rid of the autocenter property

[real crow]

Ok, i got all of them but the 4th point is where im in trouble

[real crow]

ok

should i check this page, even if for ships?https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Ships_Config_Guidelines

for physx config values about water

so i understand (or at least i try to) what they are for

[charred bolt]

These are the ones to play with:

engineShiftY = 1;
maxFordingDepth = 3;
waterAngularDampingCoef = 10;
waterDamageEngine = 0.2;
waterLeakiness = 1.5;
waterLinearDampingCoefX = 1.5;
waterLinearDampingCoefY = 1.5;
waterPPInVehicle = 0;
waterResistance = 1;
waterResistanceCoef = 0.5;```

[real crow]

Nice, gonna start playing with them 🙏

[jaunty rune]

@visual thicket can you make the sign say cyka blyat?

would make it 12/10

[real crow]

No matter what i do, the fella won't float. It will go straight to the bottom, and sometime (can't understand for what reason) it won't even move in the watah

[icy dirge]

Lol

[azure pier]

Anyone know how to set up a custom belt for the M60 in prairie fire?

I have the model made, but I can't seem to get the model to show on the side of the M60

Right now it just shows as the standard box

class vnj_m60_25_mag : vn_m60_100_mag
    {
        descriptionShort = "25Rnd. M60 Belt. <br />Caliber: 7.62x51mm. <br />Used in M60/ Shorty Machine Guns";
        displayName = "    25 Rnd. M60 Belt";
        author = "nonJoker";
        count = 25;
        model = "grenade_OH-6_turrets\Models\25Rnd_Belt.p3d";
        modelSpecial = "grenade_OH-6_turrets\Models\25Rnd_Belt.p3d";
        modelSpecialIsProxy = 1;
        mass = 9.25;
    };

class CfgSkeletons {
    class 762_belt_armature {
        isDiscrete = 0;
        skeletonInherit = "";
        skeletonBones[] = {
            "bullet1",
            "",
            "bullet2",
            "",
            "bullet3",
            "",
            "bullet4",
            "",
            "bullet5",
            "",
            "bullet6",
            "",
            "bullet7",
            "",
            "bullet8",
            "",
            "bullet9",
            "",
            "bullet10",
            "",
            "bullet11",
            "",
            "bullet12",
            "",
            "bullet13",
            "",
            "bullet14",
            "",
            "bullet15",
            "",
            "bullet16",
            "",
            "bullet17",
            "",
            "bullet18",
            "",
            "bullet19",
            "",
            "bullet20",
            "",
            "bullet21",
            "",
            "bullet22",
            "",
            "bullet23",
            "",
            "bullet24",
            "",
            "bullet25",
            ""
        };
        pivotsModel = "";
    };
};

[stuck oyster]

the hand held m60?

as in a new magazine?

[azure pier]

Yes, that is what I'm looking for

[azure pier]

Indeed

I've got the new magazine defined, too

[stuck oyster]

Id guess starting point would be the model.cfg wiki page that explains the basics of how model.cfg works

and then creating the animation classes in model.cfg you want to see

[azure pier]

That's the weird part, I do have that

[stuck oyster]

you have a model.cfg with a skeleton defined from the looks of it

the skeleton alone does nothing

[azure pier]

{
    class Default
    {
        skeletonName    = "";
        sectionsInherit    = "";
        sections[]        = {};
    };
    class 25Rnd_Belt : Default 
    {
        skeletonName="762_belt_armature";
        // Magazine proxies supports hidden selections
        sections[] =
        {

        };
        class Animations
        {
            BULLET_HIDE(1,25,25)
            BULLET_HIDE(2,25,25)
            BULLET_HIDE(3,25,25)
            BULLET_HIDE(4,25,25)
            BULLET_HIDE(5,25,25)
            BULLET_HIDE(6,25,25)
            BULLET_HIDE(7,25,25)
            BULLET_HIDE(8,25,25)
            BULLET_HIDE(9,25,25)
            BULLET_HIDE(10,25,25)
            BULLET_HIDE(11,25,25)
            BULLET_HIDE(12,25,25)
            BULLET_HIDE(13,25,25)
            BULLET_HIDE(14,25,25)
            BULLET_HIDE(15,25,25)
            BULLET_HIDE(16,25,25)
            BULLET_HIDE(17,25,25)
            BULLET_HIDE(18,25,25)
            BULLET_HIDE(19,25,25)
            BULLET_HIDE(20,25,25)
            BULLET_HIDE(21,25,25)
            BULLET_HIDE(22,25,25)
            BULLET_HIDE(23,25,25)
            BULLET_HIDE(24,25,25)
            BULLET_HIDE(25,25,25)
        };
    };
};```
Unless I'm missing something else? (I have the macro too)

[stuck oyster]

does the animations work in object builders buldozer preview?

[azure pier]

Not sure how to do that, but I'll check

[stuck oyster]

you also should modTAG prefix your files and classnames

25rnd_belt is not very unique name

[azure pier]

The model for the 100 round box shows up instead of the desired belt

[stuck oyster]

what model you opened? 🤔

[azure pier]

Not in object builder, in-game

[stuck oyster]

ah

the M60 is not designed with magazine proxy

the belt pouch is built in

[azure pier]

As I feared, then

Shit

Well, at least my mod won't have an extra model in it

[stuck oyster]

🙏

sorry to be bad news bear in this one

most of the weapons we have in sog are made with magazine proxy

[azure pier]

Yep, that's why I figured the M60 would, too

[stuck oyster]

Im guessing it was deemed unlikely anyone would make new magazine for it.

[azure pier]

Guess so

[gritty vigil]

I have returned to this wonderful place once again

Simple question kinda about ip rights but more technical than I wanted to put in the relevant channel.

If I were to go make a new jacket model or something, from my understanding I cannot modify the existing models in the game, is there any way I can proxy it over top or something of the sort? Or if I make a jacket will I also need new pants and shoes to go with it?

[stuck oyster]

not possible to use the exsisting models.

[gritty vigil]

Neat ty, I assumed so but figured I’d ask in case someone knew a solution to do it without violating ToS

[fallen compass]

A question, I already have the texture placed on a gun that I made, to see it in the object builder how would I do it? Because I exported it and it is not visible in the bulldozer

[stuck oyster]

assuming you export with arma toolbox directly to p3d you would need to assign the arma texture/material paths to the blender material so they get written to the p3d
the paths need to correspond to your mod folder structure on P drive.
for example
P:\yourmodTAG\TAG_Yourgun\data\TAG_yourTexture.paa -> becomes **yourmodTAG\TAG_Yourgun\data\TAG_yourTexture.paa **

object builder options need also be set up with "path to textures" parameter as P:\ so it can substitute the game path saved in the p3d with the P:\ in windows folders

[fallen compass]

that?

[stuck oyster]

yes

[gritty vigil]

Well I went and did what I thought was wrap up my 3d work for the glasses but I find myself incredibly unsatisfied with how they actually look, but I cant figure out why. Maybe its the bake job, or the materials or something? I cant put my finger on it, some feedback/roasting would be appreceated

[livid portal]

roasting lol

Maybe make the glass a bit transparant?

[stuck oyster]

dark shades can be like that though.

[livid portal]

Non transparant?

[stuck oyster]

hmm well maybe its more about being dark and also reflective

so could use some more specularity on the lenses

[gritty vigil]

That might be it, too much matte monolith.

Stepping back and looking at it again it also looks like maybe they are crooked and not centered on his head, didn't notice that before

[gritty vigil]

My personal pair definitely appear solid while worn unless the sun sneaks in the top

[livid portal]

Try also press F5 in Object Builder to recalculate normals, sometimes fixes the textures put on (won't necessarily be noticeable)

[livid portal]

Fair enough, never seen such so no clue 😅

[gritty vigil]

I dont actually have a specular map for this, the whole thing is probably consistent. I'll bake one out and update the rvmat

[livid portal]

It's the SMDI if you didn't know

[gritty vigil]

I did not know, thanks!

[livid portal]

This is how we setup SMDI at Cytech

[fallen compass]

Does rvmat come from the addon builder or how can I get it?

[charred bolt]

Rvmat's are text files which you can create and open in Notepad.
They are linked in the p3d to each face and determine the material characteristics for the texture, including the normal, specular and ambient occlusion maps.

[livid portal]

Also, https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/RVMAT_basics https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Super_shader

[flat lily]

Hey, guys, i need so help. So, im new at modding, actually im making mod for dayz, but i guess it dont matter, cause its object builder problem. So, im making models in blender, and then exporting them with arma toolbox, and i dont khnow why, but all my models have this wierd shading problem. Anybody have a solution?

[pallid island]

i remember having strange normals on export when i haven't pointed the Toolbox to the O2Script.exe. Check addon settings in Blender, please

[flat lily]

nah, its good.

but thanks for responding.

okay, i just found out that i have to tap F5 by myself, i thought its working by itself.

[stuck oyster]

It should work on its own. Where's the models from though? They probably come with some problems

[flat lily]

I make these by myself.

[flat lily]

It works just fine

[lone robin]

Out of curiosity, has anyone experimented with using visualex for trees or bushes opposed to making shadowVolumes, if so what were the results and is that one of the objects that doesn’t perform well with that property?

[stuck oyster]

I feel like there was some issue with that 🤔

but cant recall details

worth a try if you got a tree model in the works

@lone robin

[lone robin]

I’ve got one in the works, I’ll give it a try and report back

[stuck oyster]

Shadow movement in the wind sway motion might be a thing to check

[runic plover]

Doesnt move with the wind is the issue. Thats what i know cause im using visualex for my Tiberium Flora stuff

No more issues.. only this

[stuck oyster]

👍 I had a feeling theree was something

🧠

@lone robin new info

[thorny shadow]

Guys, there is a problem i'v been struggling with for a day or two... So i created a chest rig for my friend group modding project and it's semi-transparent, but RVMAT is ok, and textures are fine, config in check too

Also it would be a life saver for me if some of you know how to make glasses, like literal glasses. With transparency. I'v tried and failed cause i don't really know if i just should add another RVMAT for glass and another for glasses frame

[stuck oyster]

you likely have alpha channel in the texture and have not used the right naming convention with _CO suffix on the texture before converting it to .paa

theres pinned message about the suffixes at #arma3_texture you can check out

assiging different material depends on what program you use

but its basically done same way as assigning the first material

[lone robin]

Good to know, I guess I should get working on shadowLODs. Sad day lol

[thorny shadow]

lol do i must insert suffix BEFORE converting png to paa?

[stuck oyster]

yes

the suffix connects the converter to correct conversion rules

[thorny shadow]

btw are suffix case sensitive?

because i saw in a3 stuff that they all lower case

[thorny shadow]

i just have to double take on this. Is this implies that i cannot just rename ca to co afterwards?

[stuck oyster]

yes that doesnt change how its converted

but also you want to remove the alpha channel in the source anyway

transparency required parts should be unwrapped on separate texture

[thorny shadow]

Thanks alot man, you saving lifes here (or at least sanity)

[stuck oyster]

👨‍🦲 🙅‍♂️

[gritty vigil]

To bother you about this once again, when you say black and white for the green channel, are you referring to 0 and 1 (or I guess 0 and 255), and grayscale being any value between 0 and 255?

also man I thought I would despise working in these channels when I initially read about it but this isn't so bad at all

[livid portal]

ehh

@gritty vigil Like this

Metallic

Rough

[gritty vigil]

Ahh ok, so very much binary if its metallic or not, and then the roughness is much more nuanced

[livid portal]

I guess? 😄 Idk not thought of it in that way

[gritty vigil]

That did give me the direction I needed to get these textures sorted out though, so thank you very much (again)

[livid portal]

No problem

[bitter ermine]

am i foolish? i'm trying to view a model in bulldozer to make sure i ordered faces correctly

[livid portal]

In Object Builder go File, Options and then the External Viewer

@bitter ermine

[thorny shadow]

Maybe this will help

This paths are in buldozer configurator and just options on top

[ember needle]

If I may, I´ve recently started using https://github.com/rv103/rwg_texture_converter this tool. Let´s you adjust the green and blue channels via sliders, automatically renames all files. Only downside IMO is it outputs .tga but you can run that through img2paa to get .paa.

[livid portal]

Interesting, i got a right click option to convert from tga to paa 15 a time

[trail mica]

can anyone point me in the right direction for rigging a vest, cant wrap my head around it

[stuck oyster]

take the sample vest and transfer weights from it

[trail mica]

this is gonna stupid so i do apolgise but is it as simple as copying them over

[stuck oyster]

you likely need some tweaking

[trail mica]

roger

lastly, im guessing blender is best for this?

[stuck oyster]

well id suppose thats what Id recommend

[livid portal]

You can copy weights? 🤔

[stuck oyster]

goggelo blender weight transfer

[livid portal]

Oh, bet

Welp, that was an easy way, 2-3 clicks lol

[stuck oyster]

it can work as solid base

but typically needs some tweaking

[livid portal]

True

[trail mica]

haha maybe im too tired for this but... i've copied the weights on blender but when i export them theyre not a named selection...

dont worry im thick i found out thanks anyway!

[jovial quarry]

Hi, what is the difference for render an object on a map one larger object e.g. the whole house/cabin or the same object divided into individual parts e.g. walls floors roof etc.. ? The fps load is the same or is it worse if the object is divided into "more" parts ?

[stuck oyster]

worse most likely

but probably also depends on size and complexity of the thing

[jovial quarry]

It should be basic houses in the style of Vietnamese huts and some wooden trenches in the style of that time.

[stuck oyster]

singular objects for normal sized houses like that should be better

for trenches it depends a lot how you intend to use them

Id compare to say SOGPF trenches as theres quite a varied set of them there

[jovial quarry]

The goal is more to make something of my own since I'm not very good at scripting.. plus my group most of the them don't own sog..

[stuck oyster]

yes but compare to how the sog stuff was done

as reference

like what parts are made separate, what things are made as a whole

[jovial quarry]

Yes, I understand that but a lot of mods "tacticool" walls for trainings etc is build only with assets like walls and floors .. so I was curious if there is any fundamental difference in optimization.. But thanks for the recommendation.

[stuck oyster]

right

well Id guess if you need separate wall parts for some use, then you just make them

[prisma mulch]

Re-usability is the idea there

Much easier to add all the parts in and arrange in eden then it is to remodel and import and a new layout as an object

[stuck oyster]

one thing to note is that AI may have some trouble with such pieced in structures

but if thats not an issue then no problem

especially in small scale

if you start buidling whole city out of them, that might be more problematic

[ember needle]

There is no hard data AFAIK, but you have this https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Section_Count

Ingame, in the entire scene that your GPU renders and that is displayed on your monitor, every model requires it is own sections, normally. This also applies to proxy models. In some situations the game engine can do instancing, that means it recognizes, that two objects are identical and in close proximity and will combine them into one draw call. Exact details when instancing happens is unknown, but generally objects in close proximity with same lighting condition are likely to be instanced and combined to a draw call.
So if you can fit it all on one texture file, that´ll be easier on the GPU. Because instancing is not guaranteed, and even if it was the floor, roof and walls will be different texture hence different draw calls.
Reusability and modularity are great for the modeler/builder, but AFAICT not so much for the engine.
Another aspect to consider is occlusion: If you have house sized objects, it´s easy to determine what they can and can´t occlude. You don´t get that from a couple of walls AFAIK.
Also, with house sized objects, you keep all resolution LODs in one place and thus they change at the same time. That´s AFAIK not true if you have several elements that form a house, there each elements switches LODs at it´s own pace.

All that said, you do not get paid for this. Do as you like, start small and if you run into problems you can always reconsider.

[south badge]

Is it normal that this game is completely incapable of handling static emplacements´ geometry? Shit keeps constantly either flipping or glitching or whatever, especially when using engine-generated recoil instead of user animated recoil that does not affect physics.

If I make the wheels the only ground contact points the gun will roll away or tilt or whatever after firing, because the recoil moves the weapon in some direction.
If I make the geo lod with a wide cuboid base then the weapon obviously collides at points where there is no visual representation of the model, making players drop it on top of environment objects, breaking it / glitching it.

There´s virtually no solution to this that I can see. I absolutely hate my life and don´t want to do any statics anymore.

[charred bolt]

Wide cuboid base for Geometry LOD with artificial weight box giving low centre of gravity.
Geometry Phys LOD with a little bit more detail for physx collisions.
Players won't care about slightly odd collision interactions in edge cases, it's not out of place for Arma 3, so stop stressing and move on.

[south badge]

The problem is there is quite a lot of clearance between the ground and the base of the weapon where there is only empty space, so people will casually drop it on top of empty casings and stuff thinking it will not collide, because there is space

And then it obviously collide because I have to fill in that empty space with the box geo lod

[stuck oyster]

it may be you have reached the limit of how fancy thing you can do with the physX stuff. especially if you have physX casings around

[south badge]

This is the problem for me really. There is "nothing" visible there, but my geo lod has to fill in that space

[stuck oyster]

what does the geometry look like for it?

[charred bolt]

Yes. Just get over it 😉 It's how we all have to do it and it really doesn't cause much of an issue in reality.

[stuck oyster]

maybe something like this?

[south badge]

I had it like this and it worked fine until it got placed on top of stuff

[south badge]

I tried and uhh

I honestly dont know. Its like the geometry of the legs glitched into the ground and threw the gun up in the air

[stuck oyster]

wheres your land contact points compared to the geometry

!purgeban 1180536634823933977 0 scammer spammer

[high scarab]

*fires them railguns at @zealous gull* Ò_Ó

[south badge]

I honestly dont know anymore, I nuked it in a fit of rage

[charred bolt]

Almost an exact example for you to follow

[south badge]

Hmmm, I tried making it the same way as you did with the geometry. But maybe my land contact point was above the ground / geometry lod was below the land contact point

[stuck oyster]

you can check out tutorials from el Tyranos, Sokolonko, Battlestad and MrClock

[near summit]

thx

[runic plover]

dont forget to setup the MASS correctly

[bitter ermine]

if i have a prop whose model doesn't have a cfg, what would i need to do for it to be able to be retextured in config? i have a bunch of things that can use the same set of a few models, having been retextured

[marsh canyon]

That means it has model.cfg

[runic plover]

Depends if selections are defined for retexturing like hiddenselections, has to fit with model.cfg aswell

[stuck oyster]

Retexture requirements listed in pinned messages

[chrome sequoia]

Regarding geometry of models - I have problem with tank model using wreck proxy for killed state, and after kill his geometry disapear from hull part and whole wreck is falling to terrain to turret - I make many tests with replace model where this not happen so config is ok from this side beacouse after replace model file the tank is killing without this problem, but after return to old file this happen again so question - is someone with similar problem solved or who know the reason of this state (btw model of wreck is combination of 3 proxies hull + turret barrel due to dynamic change of wreck look depend on hit of ammo or not in this tank - so hull proxy is switched between 2 models) i will forward eventual questions about this non standard solution -> on 2nd model this whole system works perfectly so now it looks like reason is in model file only - model.cfg is the same structure due to solution duplication to another model but of course names are changed etc:

https://images.steamusercontent.com/ugc/26556207418304297/3AF3F091A97D30E3FC070B74992A499947F05F2A/?imw=637&imh=358&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=true

the models of proxy wrecks are also used as static wreck props as visible on screen so their models have all needed lods like geometry physx, fire etc

only problem is when model using it's wreck lod - what can cause this issue in model file (the same proxies used in other file for wreck view works fine so....)

[stuck oyster]

Sorry what was the problem? 😅

[chrome sequoia]

when tank is destroyed the wreck is falling to ground until it reach bottom of turret

[desert notch]

model of wreck is combination of 3 proxies hull + turret barrel
Can you even use a proxy in a proxy?

I'm guessing that's the issue

[desert notch]

But if it works in other wrecks then maybe not

[stuck oyster]

is that with the 3 proxy in the wreck lod?

[leaden quartz]

how do i find what the p3d for a uniform model as the in game config viewer only shows the soldier p3d not what hes wearing?

[stuck oyster]

the soldier is the uniform

the uniform item is what the uniform looks like when you drop it on ground

if you check the sample unit config from Arma3 samples on steam, you can see how the uniform cfgVehciles unit and cfgWeapons item connect

or if you look at the character encoding guide in the wiki

[leaden quartz]

right thankyou

[kind lion]

when object builder refers to "sections" what exactly does it mean? i have an object with 1500 sections and i need to reduce them but no clue where to start

i remember there was a guide on the wiki about sections but i can't find it anymore

[chrome sequoia]

For clarify 3 proxies in wreck lod are composing wreck at final look (just animations sources make visibile correct ones (easy and effect is spectacular, tested on different model and works perfectly)

by this method wreck takes turret and barrel agles of turn in moment of kill and can be with wreck models made as you see

other method i have for destroyable tracks and correctly animated gear dampers for tanks (not just up/down as it is prepared in wheel config for basic use)

[stuck oyster]

if you proxy in just one piece or vanilla wreck does that work normally?

[chrome sequoia]

not unfortunatelly ( I change proxy models to one only too and the same)

so why I think that reason is in model file (main model file)

but I compare it many times with similar model of different version of leo what I done erlier and there is not visibile diffs

but when I replace models on previous version this not happen only on this one

I was even think about copy lod by lod to new file - and probably i will do it by this method step after step lod after lod

[stuck oyster]

im guessing the wreck p3ds have something wrong in them

have you changed file names?

[chrome sequoia]

I was think like that too but replace wreck to S5 wresck what is working on A5 model not change anything

yes I change file names replace configs - only one thing what take effect after it is p3d file

[stuck oyster]

what lods do the wreck p3ds have?

[chrome sequoia]

lokks like somthing in this file cause this (for my perspective it should be something with physx or geomtry lod but nowhere is described what happen with this leods after wreck replacement

You mena proxy models?

[stuck oyster]

yes

[stuck oyster]

what named properties do you have in geometry lod?

and does it have mass?

[chrome sequoia]

of course 🙂

[stuck oyster]

Since you got problem, Im gonna assume any mistake is possible

[stuck oyster]

how about the named properties

[chrome sequoia]

only autocenter

[stuck oyster]

remove that

[chrome sequoia]

ok but this I made too 🙂

[stuck oyster]

for reference SOGPF wreck p3d geometry properties

[chrome sequoia]

I check with 0 or 1 the same only positions on wreck was changed little

ok I will test those other ones until now only bouancy and autocenter I check

[stuck oyster]

remove the property completely

dont set it to 1 or 0

[chrome sequoia]

ok from this I will start (from my similar experince with some other model autocenter make big diff in begaviour of model and in game it can eben stop react with animations for example 🙂

ok few minutes I will rebuild model for test

[stuck oyster]

also whats your config class inheritance for the wreck class?

[chrome sequoia]

moment......

class CfgSkeletons
{
class Default
{
isDiscrete = 1;
skeletonInherit = "";
skeletonBones[] = {};
};
class Vehicle: Default
{
skeletonBones[] = {};

};
#include "skeleton_2A.hpp"
//#include "2A4\skeleton_2A4.hpp"
//#include "2APSV\skeleton_2PSV.hpp"
#include "2A4PL\skeleton_2A4PL.hpp"
#include "2A5\skeleton_2A5.hpp"
#include "2A6\skeleton_2A6.hpp"
//#include "2A7\skeleton_2A7.hpp"    

};

class CfgModels
{
class Default{
sectionsInherit="";
sections[]={};
skeleton="";
class Animations{};
};
class Vehicle: Default {};
#include "model_2A.hpp"
//#include "2A4\model_2A4.hpp"
//#include "2APSV\model_2PSV.hpp"
#include "2A4PL\model_2A4PL.hpp"
#include "2A5\model_2A5.hpp"
#include "2A6\model_2A6.hpp"
//#include "2A7\model_2A7.hpp"
};

due to identical structure in whole family of those models main base class of skeletons and animations are common

so main skeleton is in 2A and then every type like 2A4 or 2A4PL takes from it

want ot see main skelton /model clasess?

class HWK_LEO2A4PL_Skeleton: HWK_LEO2_Skeleton
{
isDiscrete = 1;
skeletonInherit="HWK_LEO2_Skeleton";
skeletonBones[]=
{
"PL_sign","",
"driver_seat","",
"driver_Hatch","",
"wiper1_driver","driver_Hatch",
"wiper2_driver","driver_Hatch",
"comm_wiper_1","commander_turret",
"comm_wiper_3","comm_wiper_1",
"comm_wiper_2","commander_turret",

        "barrel1","barrel",
        "barrel2","barrel",

        "gun_cover_up","Main_gun",
        "gun_plate","Main_gun",
        "turret_plateL_1","Main_turret",
        "turret_plateL_2","Main_turret",
        "turret_plateL_3","Main_turret",
        "turret_plateL_4","Main_turret",
        "turret_plateR_1","Main_turret",
        "turret_plateR_2","Main_turret",
        "turret_plateR_3","Main_turret",

        "stuffboxes","Main_turret",
        "stuffbox_L","stuffboxes",
        "stuffbox_R","stuffboxes",

        "plateL_1","plateL",
        "plateL_2","plateL",
        "plateL_3","plateL",
        "plateL_4","plateL",
        "plateL_5","plateL",
        "plateL_6","plateL",
        "plateL_7","plateL",
        "mudflapL","plateL_7",

        "plateR_1","plateR",
        "plateR_2","plateR",
        "plateR_3","plateR",
        "plateR_4","plateR",
        "plateR_5","plateR",
        "plateR_6","plateR",
        "plateR_7","plateR",
        "mudflapR","plateR_7"
    };
};

[stuck oyster]

just needed the class structure for the wreck

😅

from config,cpp

[chrome sequoia]

aaaa ok 🙂

[stuck oyster]

ye this is wrong

compare with vanilla tank wrecks

you should use same structure

[chrome sequoia]

this is not all

but i use the same on A5 version and wrecks for A5 from this list works

[stuck oyster]

Im just telling to do stuff I've seen work.

if you dont want to thats fine

thats all I got anyway

[chrome sequoia]

anyway those definitions are for outside wrecks those obkects are different - only nonai clas is connected to proxies

those wrecks are only for use in editor they are not connected with proxies in model

proxies in model uses conjunction with noaivehicles to share /replace texture selections and those are important to have correctly declared for final model

of course those classes using the same model files but when it is wrongly declared is impossibile to use those files in objects like props and in proxys in model in the same time - this is visibile in editor when no model is loaded in this case for prop object for example.

[stuck oyster]

hmm

EC Hawk

why does that sound familiar

have you been here before?

[charred bolt]

Too much to read, did he remove autocenter property yet?

[stuck oyster]

oh man youve been banned from here before havent you?

and this is warthunder model isnt it

[chrome sequoia]

I see that things are going to wrong direction

you remeber for what?

[stuck oyster]

ripping arma 3 models.

ban is permanent

and ban evasion with new account is forbidden

and we dont offer help to work with ripped assets anyway

[chrome sequoia]

yes I see problems are best to avoid not solve last time was not important what model was on picture but problem why it not work so the best method was ban

[stuck oyster]

from the rules here

and you know this stuff

you just dont seem to care

[chrome sequoia]

yep i see problem was solved by this simple method - bye

[stuck oyster]

dude has no shame

[south badge]

The edge wear always gives it away

[lyric field]

can geo lod be modified via config.cpp animation?

[stuck oyster]

geometry parts can be animated yes

[pallid island]

doors do open in buildings :3

[stuck oyster]

but the geometry can not extend beyond the models original bounds

[lyric field]

i was expecting it to be czech space magic tbh

[stuck oyster]

(why landing gear for example is animated in open position for example)

or a wall gate would have points in the model to extend the size to cover the open door

[lyric field]

so basically for geo lod it would have to be at the bottom of the legs on this object and then "rotate" with the legs?

[stuck oyster]

character like this would have far simpler geometry blob

refer to man geometry lod

hit geometry can be more complex though

[lyric field]

is there an easy p3d or blend of that to reference to or is it in samples?

[stuck oyster]

sample character in the samples

[lyric field]

thanks you're the goat

[stuck oyster]

as comparison you can also look at the sample animal

[white jay]

if you look at it in eliteness after it is binarized you should see the actual selection count.
i don't know how OB couts but it counts diffrently

i had a object with 260 sections in OB when i looked at it in eliteness it it showed only 6 or 7 don't remember exactly

[bleak tangle]

@kind lion is this the guide http://tactical.nekromantix.com/wiki/doku.php?id=arma:modeling:section_fixing?

[kind lion]

i think so, thanks!

yes this definitely should do the trick, thanks again! @bleak tangle

[round mantle]

hello guys I'm brand new to both blender and arma 3 creation, but I've managed to get a model made in blender but when i go to export as (.p3d) i get an error saying theres no lods. i got a lods maker addon but it still says theres no lods. what am i missing?

[stuck oyster]

lods are not assigned

[round mantle]

okay where do i look to assign them?

[north sundial]

Anyone here use the weighting method for characters where you import the model over the a3 character example in max and use the skin wrap modifer to apply the weighting and selections?

Im having exporting issues >.<

[foggy pivot]

Hello modelers! What is the basic requirements for making custom wearables? Is there a base player body I can use, or anything of the sorts?

[marsh canyon]

Arma 3 Samples has some uniform, vest or more sample models

[foggy pivot]

I just need a body to make uniforms and armor off of lol

Male.p3d oughta do that lol

[marsh canyon]

No, you have naked model

[carmine gull]

Relevant for building/object modelers at the very least: https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Geometric_Occluders

[celest arch]

Hello folks, I cant find any animation sources for wind speed/direction , are there any?

[bleak tangle]

What type of object is it?

[celest arch]

nothing fancy just a wind turbine

[prisma mulch]

That will depend on the blender extension you picked. Best thing to do is to read the manual.

[bleak tangle]

Similar to the default wind turbines or are you wanting yours to move based on speed and direction?

[celest arch]

exactly, I want them to be affected by actual wind speed/direction but I don't want to use scripts. If there's an anim source for that, ok. Otherwise I'll randomize them

[foggy pivot]

??? what does this mean lmfao

where

[thin wigeon]

This is going to be a hopefully n00b moment and I should know this but I am pulling my hair out. I have made some simple door animations for a postbox model and it works absolutely fine in the editor or in a mission, but if I bake it into the world the option to open/close door doesn't appear. I'm using CfgVehicles with House_F inherited from House. I added vehicleClass = "Structures"; cos I read somewhere that will make it work, but no joy. I have class=house in the geo LOD. What am I missing 😦

No errors compiling or in the rpt either. Using latest Mikeros tools.

[runic plover]

A3 Samples

[foggy pivot]

I do know about the A3 Samples but "you have the naked model" doesn't tell me what the file is called or where it is located lol

Looking at what is actually required for custom uniforms and whatnot I will postpone this. It looks incredibly complicated and I do not have the patience for it

Maybe Arma 4 will be simpler to mod

[stuck oyster]

arma 3 sample model pack on steam

there in the "naked" as in man in underwear model that people typically use for reference

[stuck oyster]

patience and skill will be needed in Arma4 to

that wont really change

[foggy pivot]

I've done modding for other games, Arma is just older than anything else I've tried to mod for

Thus it just feels(?) harder

[livid portal]

Does the "open door" appear when interacting with the door?

[thin wigeon]

Yes, but only when in the editor playing the mission or when playing a mission with the object in it. If I "bake" it into a world then the interaction disappears. I remember some years back seeing someone with similar issues and I'm pretty sure it comes down to a ticklist to basically fault find it, it's almost certainly down to me getting some inheritance wrong or some missing special geoLOD value.

[stuck oyster]

Terrain objects need correct classname convention to connect class to p3d template

as in

class land_p3dname

[livid portal]

Mind posting your config.cpp regarding said object?

[thin wigeon]

    class House;
    class House_F: House {
        class DestructionEffects;
    };
    class Ruins_F;
    class House_Small_F: House_F
    {
        class DestructionEffects;
    };

    class pwh_models: House_F {
        scope=0;
        armor=1e+06;
        scopeCurator=0;
        displayName="";
        cost=0;
        icon="iconStaticObject";
        placement="vertical"; 
        editorCategory="pwh_Category";
        editorSubcategory="pwh_ModelsCategory";
        vehicleClass = "Structures";
    };

    class pwh_models_d: pwh_models {
        armor = 1e+03;
        destrType="DestructTree";
    };
    
    class Land_pwh_models_postbox_type_a_er2_F: pwh_models_d {
        editorPreview = "pwh\pwh_core\pwh_models\editorpreviews\Land_pwh_models_postbox_type_a_er2_F.jpg";
        icon = "iconObject_1x1";
        _generalMacro = "Land_pwh_models_postbox_type_a_er2_F";
        mapSize = 0.75;
        armor = 2000;
        class SimpleObject {
            eden = 0;
            animate[] = {{"Door_1_axis", 0}};
            hide[] = {};
            verticalOffset = 0.0;
            verticalOffsetWorld = 0;
            init = "''";
        };
        scope=2;
        scopeCurator=2;
        displayName = "Postbox, Type A, ER2 (Red)";
        model = "pwh\pwh_core\pwh_models\pwh_models_postbox_type_a_er2_F";
        
        class AnimationSources {
            DOOR_ANISOURCE(1);
        };
        class UserActions {
            DOOR_ACTION_NOHANDLE(1,"Open Postbox Door","Close Postbox Door");
        };
        actionBegin1 =    OpenDoor_1;
        actionEnd1 =    OpenDoor_1;
        numberOfDoors = 1;
    };
};

All this works perfectly when I include the object in a mission or in the eden editor play mode

[stuck oyster]

dont need the genralMacro btw. thats just BI thingy

[thin wigeon]

think I might have made the nohandle one but meh, can't remember

just tried block commenting out SimpleObject but it's not that

[livid portal]

Just in a game, will have a look in a bit

[stuck oyster]

when you say its used as terrain object

how is the terrain packed?

[thin wigeon]

I use pboProject if that's what you mean? I've made houses in the past for the same world (with working doors, glass shatter etc) with no issues when they're baked in, but I've tried doing spot the difference and out of desperation here I am - I am sure this is going to be such a n00b fail when I find it

OK, I am the biggest n00b, nothing to see here. You know that moment when you have pboProject without stretching it horizontally so you can't see the target and everything begins with "C:\games\steam\steamapps\common\Arma 3@pwh_" and you've been writing the objects into the world area and haven't updated the proper objects for a while? That's me. Damn. I think in hindsight the addition of the vehicleClass = "Structures"; probably DID fix all my problems, it's just... I compiled it in the wrong shagging place. Apologies.

I think I need to sleep now. Goodnight, always helpful and ever patient A3 gods. I salute you all 🙂

[stuck oyster]

😄

classic 😅

[thorny shadow]

@foggy pivot there is the model, you can put it in blender by using arma toolbox, then transfer weights on the model itself and do your thing

[foggy pivot]

Gotcha

[prisma mulch]

Anyone know what might cause a model to instantly crash arma with no error message?

Made some changes to a damaged version and I'm looking back at it now to try and figure out what I broke

[lone robin]

Check your config to make sure any required paths to the model are there and correct, I had something like this before and that’s because I missed a file path in the config somehow.

[stuck oyster]

maybe you managed to get ngons in there

[prisma mulch]

I've dropped a triangulate modifier on everything so should be fine on that end

[prisma mulch]

I'll check that thanks

[prisma mulch]

Resorted to adding one LOD to the export at a time.
Seems it was the shadow LOD causing issues

[stuck oyster]

that is always solid way to debug it

[azure pier]

Anyone have any ideas on how to move the grenade forward?

I've tried moving it in blender to no avail

It even shows as moved in the Object Builder

I'll try autocenter = 0

Standby

Yep, that was it

[stuck oyster]

👍

[umbral shuttle]

I have a 2 part model cfg question. I have a gun turret with a shield which also has iron sights on the shield it self (and backup irons on the gun). When the shield is hidden I want the shield to obv hide and the gunnerview to translate down to the iron sights on the gun it self. So question 1 is, if in my config I have:

class AnimationSources
{
    class Hide_Shield
    {
        displayName = "Hide shield";
        source = "user";
        animPeriod = 0.01;
        initPhase = 0;
    };
};

Does my model cfg animation need to have a class that has the exact same name as Hide_Shield? or is only source? and then so the 2nd question based of this is if that is the case, how do I have it where if Hide_Shield = 1 then the shield hides and gunnerview translates? this is what i have for my model cfg animations right now:

class Hide_Shield
{
    type="hide";
    source="Hide_Shield";
    selection="shield";

    minValue = 0.0;
    maxValue = 1.0;
    hideValue = 1.0;

    animPeriod = 0.0;
    initPhase = 0.0;
};

class Move_Sight
{
    type="translation";
    source="Hide_Shield";
    selection="gunnerview";
    
    begin = "gunner_axis_start";
    end = "gunner_axis_end";

    minValue = 0.0;
    maxValue = 1.0;
    offset0 = 0;
    offset1 = 1.0;
    animPeriod = 0.0;
    initPhase = 0.0;
};

[umbral shuttle]

omg I forgot about useSource = 1

disregard myquestion I just had to use useSource 🙂

[dusty lichen]

Hi I have imported a rifle into the game and its functioning with muzzle flash effect. The gun comes with its own suppressor which is already attached to the model. I want to make the gun to only fire with suppressed muzzle effect, so as if it has a suppressor attached. Any way to do that in config ?

[stuck oyster]

Ypu would assign the model with appropriate muzzle flash in the P3d. Config does not change it.

[dusty lichen]

Ah I see ok I will give that a go thank you

[thorny shadow]

Yeap that's me again.
I came here to tell you about your car's extended warranty.
So i'm trying to put together an artillery piece.
My main hurtles are:

1. How do you actually animate it? (i've only done uniforms few days earlier)
2. How to compile custom gun and custom ammo together? (just put them together in one root folder with subfolders for ammo and gun?)
3. Is there a video, i don't care how long, that shows process of creating artillery gun for arma 3? If so please give me link.

4. how to use proxies also

P.s. i'm not asking for explanation, just sources with the precise info i need. Preferably in video format with guy actually showing what are these things for.
P.p.s. If you gonna just say "Well there is bohemia wiki there" Yeah, duh, there is. Guess why people are coming here for advice, they are explaining what classes are and what they are for, but for fuck sake i'm not a scripter i don't fucking do that shit very well

[muted lintel]

I came here to tell you about your car's extended warranty.
How extended are we talking here? My car is 20 years old.
Is it still under warranty?

[thorny shadow]

Is it honda civic?

[stuck oyster]

Don't think there is any specific tutorial on how to make artillery.

You can study the tank sample to figure out how turret is configured and animated with model.cfg

The config side gets easier after few years.

And it can be a lot to learn but there isn't really any other way around it.

[south badge]

I guess I should record a video the next time I am making a static from scratch

[thorny shadow]

I mean nobody gonna babysit me and only way my stupid ass can truly understand things is by actually looking at how it's made with explanations, so yeah, i will like and sub or smthn XD

[smoky lava]

Hey, everybody). I want to use a trench with a deformer. Originally there was a floor in the roadway lod where the interior sound was used. Now there is no floor can I somehow use the interior sound without a floor?

[stuck oyster]

No

The sound is tied to the roadway lod surface type

[smoky lava]

thanks

[analog garden]

does anyone have an idea or a p3d example as to how to set up a nvg overlay texture

[stuck oyster]

Nvgs don't have overlay by default do they

[analog garden]

💀 is that fr an ace feature i feel stupid lmao

i couldve sworn

[stuck oyster]

Ace thing I believe

[woeful viper]

@celest arch do the vanilla ones react to the wind? never really checked that... i don't think there are any sources

though i mean, in terms of scripting - that something you can set on a timer of 5-10min to check strength and direction

randomized would look weird if you can see 2 at the same time on the map...

[frozen lava]

hey guys! im strugling here.

what define the ground contact?

also one question

its reasonable to have the name ona section in more than one LOD?

[charred bolt]

LandContact LOD vertex points define how the object sits in the Eden Editor.
If it's a physx vehicle, then the physx config code combined with the wheel memory points (Memory LOD) is used, ignoring the LandContact points.

[frozen lava]

i have this points defined in LandContact.

ill do it toweable (rhs) , but this assets dont have the wheels class defined

im copying RHS_M119 and its not defined there

[celest arch]

yeah no I think vanilla ones have just a dull simple fixed anim

[stuck oyster]

if its car type youll need to define wheels for it

even if they are tiny

otherwise it likely defaults them to 0 0 0

[frozen lava]

yea, when i define the wheels in objecet builder, its like it lose colition.

ive tryed doing this and then hide it when the other class ( helicopter) is loaded

[celest arch]

and yeah, I think it's the only way to do it correctly

[stuck oyster]

you need to define the physX wheels

[stuck oyster]

helicopter

[frozen lava]

https://www.rhsmods.org/w/towing

its sounds funny but its how it works

[stuck oyster]

right that

[celest arch]

I'm wondering what the flags are using ..... let me check

[dusty lichen]

Want to follow up on the muzzle flash, I currently selected the 'muzzle_flash_suppressor' for the rifle but there is still a muzzle flash appearing when firing. Which one should I be using?

[stuck oyster]

if you dont want any then have no muzzleflash at all

[vague topaz]

Can anyone make a gps like this instead of the gps coming on the screen because this kinda feels more immersive and better

[woeful viper]

it may be something hardcoded...

[dusty lichen]

thank you working now

[celest arch]

got distracted by my animsources lol

http://i.imgur.com/zBKFxFF.png

lets find that flag now

[white jay]

the woodbox on the greenbox would fall off if you accelerate?!

[celest arch]

yeah just temporary now

[white jay]

but looks decent

2017 = arma3origins?

[celest arch]

2017 = 2017 😃

[white jay]

yeah but it already reminded me of origin

:D

[celest arch]

looks like it's hardcoded

[white jay]

its okay to copy stuff, if you do it better

[celest arch]

copy? mm?

[stuck oyster]

No not really possible.

[white jay]

nvm

[celest arch]

the only copied stuff there it's the base hilux, straight from the a2 mlods

rest is completely original, unless I didnt understand you

[white jay]

all good

[vague topaz]

well i did find one called as cTab

[stuck oyster]

Still not the same. What you show in the picture is not possible

In any case, this isn't really a request channel.

[bold flare]

Why not?
GPS is just a UI, putting UI on a model that you're holding in your hand is very much possible

[bright echo]

main issue would be the object, to stop the hand rendering over it it would need to be an inventory item like binoculars or a weapon

at least that was always the issue I remember seeing crop up when attachToing an object to a units hand and trying to have it be visible in first person

[stuck oyster]

Like kerc points out I don't see a way to target such an object that can actually be held in hand.

If I'm mistaken I'd be happy to be corrected.

[bold flare]

As long as only one such object exists, and only player can see it. There will only be one instance of the UI

Like you can put it ontop of a binocular.
Problem is, every player sees the same texture.
But if you only see it from pilot/firstperson lod (not sure if that exists for weapons, I think it does?)
Then only one player can see it, the one holding the weapon

That's also how like indicators on your sleeve are done

[stuck oyster]

Do we have any example how that would be configured and set up on the model?

[bold flare]

You just put a ui texture on the model.
Every instance of the model would see the same ui texture (which would be bad).
But if you only have one (its only visible in pilot LOD for the local player), you never see other players UI

[marsh canyon]

#dev_rc_branch message
Not much is complicated. A texture and a script

[vague topaz]

Oh I see

[vague topaz]

Wasn't able to find that

[stuck oyster]

We don't have one. Modders typically are engaged in whatever they work on and don't need/want requests

[vague topaz]

Ah

[white jay]

Is there any base model of the weapon 3 character that is not triangulated?

i tried to use the tool "tris to quads" but it doesn't work really well

[stuck oyster]

No. Why told you need one though?

[white jay]

cuz i want to use it as sample for marvelous designer and then making clothes with right fit

[stuck oyster]

For that what you have there should be enough

Triangulated one is the most accurate one

[white jay]

well not really

[stuck oyster]

Quad can go either way depending on its angles

[white jay]

i tried to use the cloth simulation and it doesn't work really well the collision of the character

[stuck oyster]

Maybe your setup has something wrong. I kinda doubt it can be triangle related.

[white jay]

so you say it is better to keep the triangulated character for the clothes in marvelous designer?

[stuck oyster]

Imo it should not matter. And the clothes should not stick to the skin anyway.

[woeful viper]

no its not okay to copy stuff

unless permission is given...

[celest arch]

There's nothing copied

[woeful viper]

wasnt directed at you

[fallen compass]

Hello, I have a question regarding exporting textures to the object builder.

How can I capture this in the object builder with the textures, rvmat and everything necessary?

[white jay]

no i mean it in a diffrent sense

there are a shitton of "ripoffs" out there

and if you would make a copy of the origin mod

that is similar but better than the original

its okay in my opinon

but not like copy it 1:1

just the essence of it

[woeful viper]

k

[livid portal]

To do it through Blender you will need the arma 3 blender plugin

But you can also just do it through Object builder, make a material for all parts if you have multiple textures, select each part in object builder, highlight a part a time, press E and navigate to a texture and rvmat

[frozen lava]

Its doable with the new UI textures

[fallen compass]

If it's from Blender, how do I do it? I think I need the add-ons.

[livid portal]

indeed

[fallen compass]

Can you explain to me then with that method?

[livid portal]

Do you got that plugin?

[fallen compass]

What's it called? I know I have the one from Object Builder and ArmaToolbox.

[livid portal]

This one yeah?

I am using this one https://github.com/AlwarrenSidh/ArmAToolbox

Works on newer blender versions too

Make sure all your LODs got this enabled (0-??)

After that, go to the material tab, find Arma Toolbox Material Settings, from there you choose the texture and rvmat as shown.

Done, export

[fallen compass]

this one doesn't work

?

[livid portal]

What plugin is that?

Maybe works, check your material if a tab is dedicated for Arma

[prisma mulch]

Looks like this one https://mrcmodding.gitbook.io/arma-3-object-builder

Steps should be pretty similar though

[fallen compass]

The MrClock object builder

[livid portal]

Got no experience that, but there is tutorials https://www.youtube.com/@mrcmodding

[livid portal]

Depends if the tools got similar features

[fallen compass]

It should be the same or almost the same.

[livid portal]

Alright, then yeah find the arma tab in materials

[fallen compass]

The first one is for texture and the second one is for rvmat

[livid portal]

Cool, all you need then

[fallen compass]

ok

How would I do in that case?

[livid portal]

Which?

[fallen compass]

to export it with the texture? Because I have the texture image but I don't have the rvmat

[fallen compass]

and by the way it doesn't work for me because I use 4.3.2

[livid portal]

Oh, thought it did, worked fine on Blender 4.3

[prisma mulch]

You would need to make the rvmat

This page has an example https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Super_shader

[fallen compass]

yes?

[livid portal]

bottom right

[fallen compass]

oh

install it with the zip or folder

[livid portal]

zip

[fallen compass]

I give it to you but it doesn't install

or do I insert it directly into the blender root?

[livid portal]

Go to Blender Preferences, Add-ons then "Install..."

Select the .zip folder

[fallen compass]

then I get an error and it doesn't load.

[livid portal]

What error

[fallen compass]

he doesn't recognize me

[livid portal]

Doesn't tell me much, but the other plugin you had sounds like it does the same anyways

[fallen compass]

I updated to Blender 4.4.0 and I won't have any more lol

bruh

[celest arch]

yeah I see what you mean but 2017 is very different from origins

[prisma mulch]

Side question from me, any idea if there is a wiki/instructions for alwarrens toolbox?

Part of the reason I picked the other one was because I couldn't see much more than the FAQ and recent release.

[stuck oyster]

unfortunately no

[livid portal]

Doesn't take much to use it though? 😄

[prisma mulch]

I might be fine using it now tbf, but getting started having the step by step export instructions and where to find the different menus for lods and materials was really helpful.

[livid portal]

Maybe there are some random guides here and there around

[stuck oyster]

there are few tutorials around that use the older version

UI is bit different but principles are same

mrClocks version has more of a manual

there are some differences with the tools though

[fallen compass]

It tells me to install it but it doesn't work for me.

[prisma mulch]

Some things in that latest release wiki page like batch exporting seemed like they could be very useful.

And not available in mrClocks version currently.

[fallen compass]

You have to search for it in the Blender search engine.

[fallen compass]

@livid portal Ready

[livid portal]

Nice one, then re-look these #arma3_model message

[fallen compass]

yeah

Now I have to create an rvmat

[livid portal]

you don't need one but it would look better with it yeah. They got the link for how to

[fallen compass]

okok

I'll try without the rvmat

oh

error

why does this happen?

in the blender it is fine

[stuck oyster]

blender model has many uvsets

must have only 1

[fallen compass]

has a

[stuck oyster]

must be second one somewhere else there

or its not uvmapped at all

[fallen compass]

what?

In the second what?

[stuck oyster]

Maybe in another part of the lod?

all I can say is that your uvmap does not match your texture there

[dusty lichen]

Hi any idea why when I press C with my weapon when in prone, i sink into the ground?

[fallen compass]

That's why I don't know what it could be.

[fallen compass]

It's the only one

[stuck oyster]

deploy position defined probably

[stuck oyster]

look into object builder uv editor

[stuck oyster]

mayve wrong texture in use

[dusty lichen]

where would this be?

[stuck oyster]

memory lod

config also defines what its name is

you probably inherit some default one

[fallen compass]

so?

Yes, I don't have config.cpp or model cfg, would that affect anything?

[stuck oyster]

Not at this stage

[fallen compass]

ok

[stuck oyster]

you cant assign texture on a model that does not fit the uvmap

[fallen compass]

what could it be

that's it

[stuck oyster]

you probably did not make it as you dont seem to know what texture it uses

youll have to look at the files and figure it out

[dusty lichen]

i used the test weapon from A3 samples, does it come with a bipod related memory lod?

[stuck oyster]

I dont remember

[fallen compass]

use that same

but it is not taken from the game or a mod

[stuck oyster]

if its same texture it should fit

thats is all there is to it

[fallen compass]

It's already in the image

that's why i have no idea

[dusty lichen]

just curious is it possible to transfer the things from 1 vertex group to another? I want to try set the bipod memory but its tied to the bipod one and not the weapon memory

[stuck oyster]

Im not quite sure what you mean

the vertex groups can be assigned anyway you need

[obtuse rain]

2017 predates Origins by.. a lot.

[vivid bane]

I was highly considering living under a rock till 2017 is ready 😛

[livid portal]

Screenshot the material list

[dusty lichen]

So like, Memory is currently for the rifle, Memory 003 is from the Bipod. I want to move the vertex groups within Memory 003 (so the bipod) to the rifle's memory (Memory). Is that possible?

[livid portal]

Just copy and paste the vertex yeah or merge the two, you can only have one memory lod tho

@dusty lichen

[dusty lichen]

Ok will give that a go thank you

[stuck oyster]

right, yeah you dont have to use parts from imported memory lods

you can just make new vertex assign it to new group of your wanting

[bleak tangle]

I know you mentioned not wanting to use a script for it, but you could just have a loop check every 10 minutes or however long for wind changes and have animations available in sets of 45 degree angles

[fallen compass]

I did it with the mrclock plugin, but I already have the armatoolbox plugin.

[livid portal]

Did the weapon come with more than one material?

[fallen compass]

yes xd

[livid portal]

That is the issue then

[fallen compass]

is that the original comes in parts

[livid portal]

Each material has their own uv setup, removing one will mess it up unless you bake multiple to one

Look at each of the parts material

Those with the same material names can be merged without issues

[fallen compass]

When I merged them I had like 7 materials left.

What can I do?

now

although I'm looking at all of them and I think they have the same configuration

[livid portal]

Nothing to do than re-importing the originals if you want the textures to match up

[fallen compass]

but I made the textures to match the model I made

[livid portal]

If you have 7 different materials, then deleting some or more will mess it up, either you merge the ones with the same textures only or you bake multiple textures to one so you only have 2-3 materials

[fallen compass]

I removed the texture and arranged it and it was put on without any backing, just that one.

For example, in the original I joined the entire mesh into a single material and it works.

[livid portal]

Alright, did you export this one as p3d and with the textures you used here too?

[fallen compass]

yes

[livid portal]

Try re export it, it doesn't save from the original to this if you changed textures

Also, if you have made a Rvmat, make sure it's setup correctly

[fallen compass]

Oh

Yes

[fallen compass]

was this

to see it on the bulldozer

?

you can only see the white texture

[livid portal]

Either you use an rvmat or don't, but if you do, you have to make sure it's setup for the textures you need (AS, SMDI and/or NOHQ)

[fallen compass]

Well, the original texture of the weapon I'm referencing has other textures as you say.

[prisma mulch]

in blender you use the shader node inputs to select other textures to use in a material, in arma you put the normal map and others inside the rvmat to tell the game where to look

[livid portal]

Will make a lil vid showing it.

[fallen compass]

oks

Do I need rvmat to see it in the object builder?

buldozer

[livid portal]

no, only for other details added

[prisma mulch]

• setup model lods
• add material to visual lod
• add colour texture filepath to material ( .paa format)
• optional (add rvmat filepath to material)
• export p3d

[fallen compass]

The PAA goes in the data folder, right?

[livid portal]

Lil longer than a lil bit but yeah, this is how you do it.

[fallen compass]

oh

[livid portal]

Consider it done at 5:25, the rest is blocked by another window 😬

Hope it's to figure out even in silence 😄

[fallen compass]

Thank you, very good contribution

[fallen compass]

it gives me this error

[livid portal]

Make sure it's .paa texture as shown i the video

and not .jpeg(.jpg)

[fallen compass]

I'm going to do the test without the rvmat

[livid portal]

You are directing to a .jpeg, so look at your model which textures it has

[fallen compass]

The textures it has are jpeg

[livid portal]

Also, make sure your folders are in your P: drive when making the model setup, not sure if it works outside

[livid portal]

Make them .paa with Texviewer

[fallen compass]

ok

[livid portal]

I got a right click mouse button which you see me doing so my bad

[fallen compass]

Does this have to be a jpg?