arma3_model

[south badge]

It works a bit strangely. It seems to display the muzzle flashes only from time to time, albeit at least they are on the correct positions now

I´ll also need to figure out how to get rid of the smoke generating automatically at usti hlavne, since it seemingly isnt muzzle flash related

[stuck oyster]

thats configured in the cfgweapon

[stuck oyster]

it might mean you are just missing a frame step

your hide and unhide is pretty fast

[south badge]

The only thing that looked like it was "flash", and in all cases that only contained the value "gunfire"

And I´d assume this entry needs to be weapon-specific, because multiple weapons require multiple memory points

[stuck oyster]

no, its the gunParticles that define the particle effects

[south badge]

ahh, makes sense now

One day I will learn to pay attention to what I am doing, but it is not this day.

[storm wave]

@cunning temple hey how do i binirize an object?

[stuck oyster]

you pack the addon its in with pbo project

you can just ask stuff without pinging people

[storm wave]

sorry

yeah but pboproject gives me unsolvable errors

like thet

files are not missing

[stuck oyster]

dont have P: in the paths

[storm wave]

like thet?

[stuck oyster]

without the first\

[storm wave]

thanks worked

what about thet ?

[stuck oyster]

exactly what the error says

[storm wave]

i dont know what to writ there

[stuck oyster]

you need right classes in right places

now you dont have them in right places

[stuck oyster]

probably need to update mikero tool

[storm wave]

just reinstall them right?

works thanks

🙂

now thet

[stuck oyster]

[storm wave]

how can i binirize an object with out making it crhase my tb project

and in the new pboproject i cant obsufcat

[stuck oyster]

you dont need binarized object it TB

you need binarized object in P: temp to pack the wrp

and you dont need to obfuscate

[storm wave]

so do you know what i sould do?

[stuck oyster]

no idea

you got too many errors all the time

[storm wave]

what can i say arma 3

[storm wave]

how

just how do i bianrize an object

[stuck oyster]

did we just go over this

[storm wave]

where do i get BinPBO

[stuck oyster]

why do you need that

what the hell are you trying to do

[storm wave]

binarize

[stuck oyster]

why??????

[storm wave]

so it works

[stuck oyster]

what works?

[storm wave]

object

[stuck oyster]

:A"#¤QYI=)#¤YIQ)#%QYQI#=¤)UYIQ#¤%=

[storm wave]

with map

[stuck oyster]

you do not binarize object for terrain builder

your thing packed already

[storm wave]

i want my object to work with my map but it does some wired shi* so what sould i do

😂

[stuck oyster]

I dont know

but you definitely try to do wrong things

so you probably have done some other wrong things too

idk

[storm wave]

it says i have unbianirazed wrp

somehow

in arma 3 making fix 1 error just leads you to an other one

thats why im asking

[stuck oyster]

most people dont seem to have this much errors

so I dont know what you are doing

[stuck oyster]

this is not the error you get now

you get different error

[storm wave]

sorry

[stuck oyster]

focus only on the error you have

not the ones you have solved

[storm wave]

this one now

fixed this on now

now this one again

[stuck oyster]

you done something weird to your files

or pboproject settings

[stuck oyster]

never seen that error before

[lone robin]

Do you have a working map ? Is said object you’re trying to add to your maybe broken map also work in game on its own ?

[storm wave]

Yes the map is working and the object is working

They just dont work toghter

no

now its the map chaked

i think something is to do with the new mikero instolation

yeah

[lone robin]

Are you trying to pack both into the same PBO ?

[storm wave]

there was a betton pressed works now

[stuck oyster]

[storm wave]

thanks for your help

[jaunty leaf]

Anyone alive here?

[woeful viper]

nope, i have given up on living

[jaunty leaf]

:V

Well, does anyone here know anything about grenades in object builder/arma

Because I have an RDG-2 ingame, but I'm missing -something- in the .p3d that prevents it from having physics

And by npt having physics I mean http://i.imgur.com/XNOFctB.png that

It's just hanging in midair

[edgy pulsar]

That seems oddly deadly. But no clue, I'm still learning things.

[woeful viper]

@jaunty leaf does it have a Geometry LOD and a PhysX LOD? it needs one

does the rpt say anything?

[jaunty leaf]

PhyX lod?

Need to take a look at that

I have a geometry lod, geometry phys lod, landcontact and fireGeometry

However, landcontact might be working on points, I'm really not sure

Do you mind if I shareX my LODs?

[woeful viper]

yeah geometry phys, thats what i mean by physX lod^^

[jaunty leaf]

Well, I have one

The "new" one, or the one that isn't the old one

testing with mass now

[woeful viper]

sounds like it would rather be a config problem then something with the model then

[jaunty leaf]

Well, I'm changing not much at all from the original smokeShell class

[woeful viper]

geometry LOD needs a mass. Geometry phys LOD does not need a mass.

[jaunty leaf]

Let me take pictures of this stuff for you

http://i.imgur.com/vzYym9r.png

Same for LOD 1 + 2

http://i.imgur.com/VchRLlj.png

http://i.imgur.com/30YfL2P.png phys geometry

http://i.imgur.com/NmFN2a7.png landcontact

http://i.imgur.com/DnovrIk.png firegeometry

[woeful viper]

the model for an item is different then the model for a projectile. If you check ingame, drop a smoke grenade from your inventory. Then throw a smoke on the ground and compare the models

btw your landcontact should be just points, no geometry

[jaunty leaf]

Aight, that's probably the problem :V

[woeful viper]

use a single point in the middle, there is no need to have it more complicated for a small object like that

[jaunty leaf]

Thanks for the help

[woeful viper]

i dont think you even need a landcontact

[jaunty leaf]

Well, something inside my .p3d needs to be altered so that it actually flies

[woeful viper]

does it have a mass inside geometry lod?

[fossil vine]

Have anyone seen this kind of error message?? I've searched for message but seems theres no any reference for this error..

[marsh canyon]

More context please. Config or the P3D itself or whatever

[fossil vine]

I'm using hemtt to test simple mod.

{
    class ItemCore;
    class SAKY_PRC96K: ItemCore
    {
        author="Sakyamoney";
        _generalMacro="ItemRadio";
        scope=2;
        displayName="PRC-96K(Radio)";
        simulation="ItemRadio";
        picture="\SAKY\PRC96K\addons\prc96k\ui\PRC96K_high.paa";
        model="\SAKY\PRC96K\addons\prc96k\PRC96K.p3d";
        descriptionShort="PRC-96K Hand held radio for Republic of Korea Armed Forces.";
        class ItemInfo
        {
            mass=8;
        };
    };
};```

The picture and model is visible in game, but that error pops up and I don't know why..

[marsh canyon]

Are you 100% suremodel="\SAKY\PRC96K\addons\prc96k\PRC96K.p3d";is the faulty in this context

[fossil vine]

not so sure

[pallid island]

almost empty class ItemInfo
Disregard that, having just mass should be enough

[fossil vine]

I'll try

[marsh canyon]

class ItemRadio: ItemCore
{
    author="$STR_A3_Bohemia_Interactive";
    _generalMacro="ItemRadio";
    scope=2;
    displayName="$STR_A3_cfgWeapons_ItemRadio0";
    simulation="ItemRadio";
    picture="\A3\Weapons_F\Data\UI\gear_item_radio_ca.paa";
    model="\a3\Weapons_F\Ammo\mag_radio.p3d";
    descriptionShort="$STR_A3_cfgWeapons_ItemRadio1";
    class ItemInfo
    {
        mass=8;
    };
};```Well it was that so

[fossil vine]

Should I inherit? the Itemradio and just change name model etc

[marsh canyon]

Then make it sure. Use a working P3D instead

[fossil vine]

I didn't understand what you meant.
It had no error when I used addon builder. But it's happening when I'm using hemtt launch.

I doubted if binarize is making problem, so included binarize=false in addon folder.

But it was same

[marsh canyon]

Use a working P3D, aka let's say just put cpp model="\a3\Weapons_F\Ammo\mag_radio.p3d";

[fossil vine]

Ok I'll try

BTW it seems working

{
    class ItemRadio;
    class SAKY_PRC96K: ItemRadio
    {
        author="Sakyamoney";
        displayName="PRC-96K(Radio)";
        picture="\prc96k\ui\PRC96K_high.paa";
        //model="\prc96k\PRC96K.p3d";
        model="\a3\Weapons_F\Ammo\mag_radio.p3d";
        descriptionShort="PRC-96K Hand held radio for Republic of Korea Armed Forces.";
        class ItemInfo
        {
            mass=8;
        };
    };
};```

[fossil vine]

Hmmm this does not have error

[marsh canyon]

What do you mean by BTW in this context

[fossil vine]

    class SAKY_PRC96K: ItemRadio```

I changed from itemcore to itemradio

[marsh canyon]

Then what about change back your P3D?

[fossil vine]

X.X

[marsh canyon]

Then one thing is certain, your P3D is doing something wrong

[fossil vine]

Its just simple object with single proxy and lod

[marsh canyon]

Why proxy

...More like, why you put an empty proxy that is very wrong, and even causing that error

[fossil vine]

to make it lean on the surface when put on ground?...

[marsh canyon]

No

[fossil vine]

ah ha.. that was problem

thank you!

[jaunty leaf]

ye

[storm wave]

how do i make the texture take more space por image

[lone robin]

How are you applying the texture to your model in your modeling software? Are you scaling your UV appropriately based on the textures size ?

[storm wave]

what

[south badge]

[lone robin]

1. Object builder should be used to validate geometry, paths, named selections, and properties. Actual modeling and texturing should be done in blender using arma toolbox or another modern modeling software

2. Avoid 4K textures for models, 2K is more than enough.

3. If using a multimat, using UVSet 0 you can select a specific UV in the UV editor and scale it so that your texture tiles correctly

[storm wave]

how would i apply texture to it then?

[lone robin]

I know you resist every bit of advice anyone gives you that doesn’t immediately fix your issue but once again, you need to watch some tutorials on basic modeling and texturing. Without knowing these basic things you’re going to just fumble around. Applying a texture to a model isn’t an arma specific thing.

[jaunty leaf]

Alright, I tried giving it mass and getting rid of the landcontact but it still floats in midair

[jaunty leaf]

and I solved it by adding a pilotview lod

I don't even

[lunar trench]

Is it possible to move memory point in the memory LOD with a bone?

I have a rotor that is attached to an arm. And i need to arm to be able to move up and down with the rotor attached to it. But i obviously need the axis memory point to keep being in the right spot as it moves

[stuck oyster]

you can chain animated parts yes

arm,""
motor,arm
propeller,motor

and so on

[lunar trench]

aye, but isn't that just bones that come from the visual LOD?

these bits i got down already and it works fine. But what i need is in the initial screenshot the blades need to fold up

[south badge]

Assign the memory lod vertices to the same vertex group as the bone you want them to move together with?

I think it works that way?

[lunar trench]

yea i tried that, but it didn't really work which is why i wanted to ask here if its even possible

[stuck oyster]

then you need more animations to control the blades I guess

[lunar trench]

Fair. So its not possible to move memory points like you can move bones in the visual lod?

[stuck oyster]

might even be smart to just swap between folded and unfolded parts via hide animation

axis points move with animations

[lunar trench]

yea that was my fallback solution

[stuck oyster]

but you have to use translation type

not translationX translationY

or rotation and not rotationX/Y

[lunar trench]

this is how i have them right now

[stuck oyster]

buut thinking about it now I would just swap between static propellers in folded state and the unfolded rotating ones

[lunar trench]

yea fair enough, thanks for the help

[stuck oyster]

sometimes its ok to save yourself from bit of trouble with that kind of solutions 😅

[lunar trench]

hehe yea, i just got it this far and was like.... "i cant imagine these dumb blades is where i reach my limit xD"

[stuck oyster]

well it should work animated too if the chain and timings and such are all right

[lunar trench]

I think all this animation stuff is probably my weakest subject in terms of modding knowledge at the moment xD I find it rather complicated the way its all made

[stuck oyster]

it gets easier with practice

after a few years 😅

[lunar trench]

hehe at this pace i will be good at it when Arma 4 comes out 😛

[storm wave]

hey when i apply a metirial to a model it make the my game crash when i place the object

[magic otter]

Hey so im currently trying to mod an LAV that is amphibious (can go in water) and im like quite experienced with blender aabout 3 yearas but not much experience with modding can anyone help me ? Thanks again

[stuck oyster]

first starting point probably would be to look up arma3 samples and read up on how the different lods work on the wiki

[magic otter]

ok where can i find these samples?

[stuck oyster]

steam

[storm wave]

Uv editor loads for ever and donest open

[storm wave]

pleas help

[polar fiber]

it's probably off-screen somewhere. IIRC gotta do something like right-click it in taskbar and press "maximise"

[storm wave]

its not

shows like thet

[charred bolt]

Do what Monkey told you, that will fix it.

[storm wave]

?

Its not possible

[charred bolt]

?

Yes it is.

[storm wave]

Its not reactive

[charred bolt]

Try uninstalling the tools, but don't reinstall them afterwards. That might sort out quite a lot of your issues.

😉

[storm wave]

Very funny haha

[tribal rain]

anyone got any clue as to why my uniform has now decided to not behave properly?

recent things ive done:

Re-weight Transfered from the example model
Re-packed the mod
Changed the p3d name to a different Ver
Updated the cfg and Model cfg to match the above

[pallid nexus]

I've seen that happen with skeleton mismatch between the human and spartan gear in OPTRE
My best guess is your skeleton doesn't match what it should be

[blazing fox]

hey ! i made a custom face for arma and everything is working except for the hair, how can i choose a differnt kind of hair or the player model

[young dust]

Choose a channel and stick to it, no crossposting in multiple channels

[blazing fox]

ok i thought maybe i was not in the right channel at first

[neon harness]

So I made this scope and I wanted to give it a shadow lod just for the shading on the inside of the scope, but for some reason, the shadow looks weird both is objectbuilder and in game. You can check the pictures provided. I tried messing around with the shadow lod to see if the shadow would change, but nothing changes.

Same issue with the front. Left: Lod 1 with shadows enabled. Right: Lod 1 with the shadow lod overlayed on it.

Camera not moved just human error while taking the image.

[south badge]

I had the same exact issue and couldnt really solve it

[neon harness]

Well at least I know not to pursue a solution then.

[south badge]

I just ended up making the shadow LOD shorter, so there was no shadow clipping

But maybe I was just a dumbass who couldn´t figure out a solution

[neon harness]

Ah so totally inside the model.

[south badge]

Basically yeah, low effort solution

[stuck oyster]

so if you want real shadow the shadowlod mesh also needs to be a tube

not cylinder

and all shadow mesh needs to be insdide your visual mesh

if it pokes out it will draw shadow over the visual mesh

[neon harness]

That is the intended case here.

[neon harness]

I just want the shadow to cover the inset parts of the scope, so I assumed with a low poly cylinder covering the inset parts, the shadow would just be whatever shape the cavity was.

[stuck oyster]

but that will draw shadow even if there isnt supposed to be shadow

essentially you are doing it wrong

[neon harness]

So shadow should also be inset at the same place then.

[stuck oyster]

Yes

you probably need more segments on the cylinder to fit it nicely in the rim

[tribal rain]

you were correct amigo this is it now

also the pain of having to manually rename each weight group in blender

https://tenor.com/view/piddel-piddel-meme-piddel-gaming-piddel-pain-pain-gif-26176777

[neon harness]

I tried creating a shadow lod with a higher vertex cylinder that is neatly inside the mesh and it still looked offset in the scope. I then took the 1st lod, shrunk it down slightly and tried it, got the same result.

[stuck oyster]

if you overlay your shadow mesh with your resoltuion lod what does that look like?

and do you model it in Object builder?

[neon harness]

It is inside the mesh. When I over layed them, I couldn't see the shadow lod.

[neon harness]

Blender --> Object Builder.

[stuck oyster]

then add texture and material on it and check it out in game

[neon harness]

I guess it's better.

[south badge]

Is there a sensible way in which I can copy passenger proxies from one vehicle model into another one? Or do I need to select all the proxies, separate them to a separate mesh, and copy paste that?

[stuck oyster]

that is rather sensible way

[south badge]

Okay, so it is the most sensible way, thank you

[bleak tangle]

Is there a way to see total section count in OB including proxies? Or should I stop being lazy and do calculate it myself

[cedar jacinth]

How 100% do geometry LODs for weapons have to be? Would it be good to use more components to make it fit more accurately or is the sample one plenty enough? Are there benefits making the geometries fit perfectly?

[woeful viper]

look into the bottom left corner...

[fresh oxide]

guys, i am relatively new to making arma mods and i am trying to get this model i made from blender to arma, i have managed to get the model and everything is good but the one thing i am having trouble with is the textures. in blender i make the uv map and all that but when i bring this into the uv map editor in object builder the uv map is still there but has a bunch of other things added on top that arent in line with the original. (kinda hard to explain i have a post on reddit that is more in depth)

[cedar jacinth]

You probably have two UVMaps in Blender - at least that was my issue when i started

[fresh oxide]

nvm i got it working, for whatever reason i had the files mixed up

thanks though

[stuck oyster]

Simple is enough. No benefit from complex geometry

[idle thistle]

Someone can help me with the buffalo tool to make it useful ??

don't know what to do to make the tool as the turret but what kind of turret ?

[bleak tangle]

The number in the bottom left includes the section count for proxies?

[cloud zealot]

I modelled a bulletproff vest and a tactical belt. I'd live to have both in one, should i add a proxy for the belt in the vest p3d or should i make a new p3d with both models inside ?

[stuck oyster]

do you want to wear them as one item?

[cloud zealot]

yes

[stuck oyster]

then it all needs to be 1 model

[cloud zealot]

hmmm ok thank you

[stuck oyster]

1 model. but not necessarly all 1 mesh

[steep lantern]

Can someone give me a quick explanation of the purpose of the shadow buffer LODs?

[stuck oyster]

You typically need just shadow 0

It needs to be built from closed mesh parts

Triangulated

And sharp edged

And as simple as you can get it

Less than 1000 tris is good aim

[steep lantern]

So is shadow buffer basically just antiquated and unused nowadays?

[timber maple]

how do i get the player model

[pallid nexus]

If you mean the player model with uniform on, you can't
You can have the sample model that can be used to make new models (uniforms) for human units
I don't know if the head is available, but it will be part of Arma 3 samples as well

If there is a specific modded model you want to work with, you can try asking the owner of the mod/model

[cedar jacinth]

Hey, i have animated the backsight of my gun to move up and down depending on the range you set.
I saw though that this does not get shown when a player does this, and yet another player looks at the gun. Are such things not supported for MP? I thought that it would be since when the magazine is missing that is being shown.

Yes ik this might not be the right channel, i just did not find a fitting one, sorry 😦

@marsh canyon but i already have the model animation working. But you probably intended to say that this is not supported over MP or somthing like this?

[marsh canyon]

Non-player units can have that animation. It is just that

[cedar jacinth]

Well for my view it is working, but looking at another player it wont move. Is there some kind of Eventhandler i have to add to my gun for that to work?
Ill post screenshots in the evening

[marsh canyon]

Rephrase: the source will work only for player

And player, in this context, is local player

[cedar jacinth]

Roger

[real crow]

hey folks, is there a way i can shrink this 2d optic? this is my first time working with custom sights and reticles. I tried to scale the meshes in the p3d of the optic, but clearly doesnt change anything in game

[stuck oyster]

Shrink?

Not quite sure what you mean

[real crow]

The whole is too big, i would like to have it resized

Smaller

[bright echo]

is your optic just one single plane? i think arma auto 'resizes' it in that case

tbh my understanding on how the optics tech work is minimal as there's not very much documentation

but generallly the way i've done them is like this, the select face is the actual reticle, the outside is the 'ocular lens' as it were

[real crow]

Might def be yeah

[real crow]

I did the same thing, just followed a sample created by PuFu back in the days

Pufu or Da12thMonkey? Can’t remember

[polar fiber]

If you're scaling it in the model, you only want to scale the squares in the middle of the model. IIRC the outer corners correspond to how the model fits the monitor FOV in some way, so if you just scale the whole thing it simply gets stretched back to fill the screen

[obtuse rain]

Mmm, the BIS grenades have Pilot View LOD's that are actually more detailed than the best resolution LOD.

Looks like they put the most detailed into the Pilot View LOD, then halve that for the most detailed resolution LOD.

[real crow]

roger

[cedar jacinth]

Sorry, wanted to ask this also for vehicles - is it still enough if it is simple?

[stuck oyster]

if vehicle has interior then that needs to be taken into account

but yes the method of making and requirements of shadowlod are same in all objects

[woven solstice]

I was told to ask here for help with creating a mod.
For context the mod will be a uniform and two head gear items.

[stuck oyster]

we can try to answer specific questions you might have.

[woven solstice]

I will have a lot, this is my first mod

[stuck oyster]

the best advice for beginner is to start from something simpler then 😅

like just modeling a box

and then putthing that into game as simple prop

that way you have less parts to worry about when you learn things

[woven solstice]

I would normally follow that, but im trying to get this done before my friends group has our event next month

My original plan was to commission it, but i learned i cant do that, understandable, so i will just ask for help to do it myself.

[marsh canyon]

Well, how this, or other channel work is more of I have this situation and this particular issue - I have this error message or something, any clues?, but not I know nowhere to go

[stuck oyster]

this is not really something you can put a timer on

it will take the time it takes

[woven solstice]

Sooo i could ask the question of if i get errors, am I allowed to ask how to convert blender models i did into workable formats for arma3

[marsh canyon]

I mean, it is pretty much allowed to say almost any question. But I know nothing! is really hard to answer

So, basically, step by step. How do I convert from Blender? might be your first question

[cedar jacinth]

Hey 🙂
What is the „secret“ for creating hitpoint and memory LODs for vehicles? I am not really supposed to place each point separatly? 😄

[stuck oyster]

memory lods pretty much yeah.

though for axis points you might sometimes be able to copy points from the 0 lod and use those

depends how the model is made

hitpoints also should be carefully crafted so they are in right places

[cedar jacinth]

So everything should preferably be manually placed?

[stuck oyster]

though you can also use named firegeometry components as hitpoint areas if you like

[stuck oyster]

manual means accuracy

[cedar jacinth]

Roger

[stuck oyster]

any kind of automation does shoddy work usually

[cedar jacinth]

Just finished geometry LODs for a plane after about 7 hrs XD

Yeah the object builder blender addon does not help at all 😄

[stuck oyster]

why not?

[cedar jacinth]

Its not really giving me accurate LODs - mby i just have not figured out correct settings though,
Ill play around tomorrow a bit, and will send a pic to ask if this is correct

[stuck oyster]

it should export 1 :1 what you see

unless you have some flaw in the model

like scaling in object

[cedar jacinth]

Hm - it usually does not really add „all“ points since some spots of the part of my model is missing memory points.
Will send screenshot tomorrow

[stuck oyster]

cant say I've ever seen such issues.

But sure things can happen

[white jay]

how is it possible a building ending up with 263 sections?
and how do i sort that out? because it is showing me the same material as diffrent section about 40+ times each material

[south badge]

Question: Since every PiP requires a different texture, does it mean that each of them creates a new "section" in OB?

[stuck oyster]

yes

pip can be very performance expensive

[south badge]

cheers

[cedar jacinth]

I just select the edge of the model and move my hitpoint points there - is that a good practice to do? Yes it would take ages but o would not mind.

[stuck oyster]

there are tools that can make pointcould of of a model such things can be used

youll have to keep in mind how large radius our hitpoints have

you dont want them to overlap too much

but you could also use the geometry hit detection if you dont want to do hitpoints

[cedar jacinth]

I want to use hitpoints so that the mod is highest quality.
But if i use the blender memory LOD tool it does not work. Do i have to use that tool for each parts of the model or should i use it when its combined?
After that info i can send you an example of what my issue is/was yesterday

[stuck oyster]

visualfire geometry hit is more accurate

[stuck oyster]

how does it not work

[cedar jacinth]

oh, really? how do i set that up?

[stuck oyster]

its called armor component

it refers to named component groups in fire geometry

[cedar jacinth]

ohh, i was using the tool to add the point clouds to res LOD XD
Does this look alright?

using default X Y Z 0.2 values, Offset 0.10 and segments 4

[stuck oyster]

You can not

such tools are strickly forbidden

[cedar jacinth]

so like this or is this far too much? Looking at the sample im in doubt if this is right :/
or should i try to copy the sample 1:1? sorry if i have to ask this much but this is my first vehicle i want to understand 😄

[stuck oyster]

if you use the armorComponents you dont need hitpoints at all

or just 1 for explosion damage

[stuck oyster]

in this regard the samples are outdated as they dont properly show the newer damage modeling you can do

[cedar jacinth]

😦 where can i find this updated one? Or am i only able to implement this with asking here?

[stuck oyster]

there is wiki page about it

heres an example

only few points needed really

[cedar jacinth]

damn that seems really easy 😄

ill look at wiki! ty 🙂

[stuck oyster]

then there are also fire geometry components that are named accordingly

these will then take accurate damage for engine and fuel hitpoints

and the hull hitpoints take care of the overall damage

[cedar jacinth]

Ahhhh this reminds me of the Spearhead 1944 damage system!

[stuck oyster]

they do use the newer setup too I believe

[charred bolt]

sexy model, I wonder who made that 😉

[tame flax]

I'm not talking about tools, I just asked if there was a solution to use my addons whose sources I lost and put them back on my map that I'm creating

[stuck oyster]

the dev branch terrain builder should be able to read the new binarized p3d

[tame flax]

this time he doesn't want to import the new versions on my side, since I lost the sources I don't want to start 252 models again..

[stuck oyster]

Normal terrain builder has not updated yet to read the new p3d

dev branch should have the new terrain builder for testing

[tame flax]

ah ok thanks for the info, do you know when it will be deployed approximately?

[stuck oyster]

no idea

[cedar jacinth]

What is the better approach?
I currently have my plane with the wheels turned in. I am having some trouble with the wheel animation - they dont want to stick to my axis what so ever XD
The sample has the landing gear turned out and the geometries edited accordingly. Should i also turn out my gear for the model or does it not really matter?

[stuck oyster]

they need to be modeled turned out

thats the default state

but the axis not working could indicate your skeleton is not set up rigth

as in all parts are not parented into a chain

or you use rotationX/Y animations

or you dont have isdiscrete value set right in modelcfg

[cedar jacinth]

Ah, alright! Currently they are turned in 😄
Well i have done a similar thing as in my weapons, done a axis for rotation but that currently does not work in any way - but i think i am missing important stuff in the geometries again..

[stuck oyster]

geometries are not really related to animations

they move with them if there are right names

but they dont affect the animations at all

only thing that runs animations is model.cfg

[cedar jacinth]

Yeah but i mean autocenter ect..

[stuck oyster]

and it uses memorylod

autocenter affects model in game

no in buldozer

[cedar jacinth]

Ah

[stuck oyster]

where I assume you are testing your animations

although maybe I should not assume

😅

soo do you use buldozer to preview your animations

[cedar jacinth]

Yeah i do 😄
Well then i have to overhaul the geometries again anyways since they are currently setup for gear turned in.

[errant pumice]

Does anyone know if a similiar hat is available in any of A3 mods? Or someone is willing to create it?

Closest I could find is the Northern Fronts, but it is over 14 gigs lol 🙂

Legionnaires hat

[woven solstice]

Okay im back with my first question. I forgot to have the arma tools installed for blender before making a model for a mod.
Do i need to remake the model now that ive plugged in in?

[marsh canyon]

No. The ArmaToolBox should work as is, unless you miss something

[obtuse rain]

It's texture+material+some of the point flags that it uses to divide into sections.

Also there's an O2 bug regarding sections where copying certain things will increase the count. Can't remember if binarization has the same issue though.

(You can binarize it then open it up in Mikero's Eliteness to see the real number of sections)

It turns out the A3 samples rig has Scoliosis.

[white jay]

how can i fix this problem?

[marsh canyon]

You can't

[stuck oyster]

You can't take models

You need to make new ones

[cedar jacinth]

Ty! 🙂 This fixed my wheel problem 😄

[north sundial]

Is there some extra configuration to using a model as a proxy for the geometry lods? Ive added a model as a proxy to all the relevant lods I want it to be on and it works fine for res, stencilshadow, roadway. But for geometry, fire geo and view geo it seems that is not working correctly as it only seems to work in the middle sections. and cuts off the corners (The original model is fine and works and is not outside the bounding box) Will send a video shortly

https://gyazo.com/34ab23338c11a7adbf657783349160d6

(also im aware the proxy is too low i just placed it roughly for testing)

[charred bolt]

Have you verified the Geo LOD's in the proxy to make sure they are closed, convex and named ComponentNN?
If you suspect the proxy is at fault, try putting the Geo LOD's directly into the model and retesting.
By the way, you don't need (shouldn't) put proxies in the Shadow LOD, as they are done automatically and you'll end up with performance hits from duplicate shadows.
Could also be that you are exceeding size limits.

[north sundial]

So the object on the right is the object thats being proxied in, so it works on its own model and it is closed, convex and named componentNN and works perfectly fine by itself

its just having this strange behaviour when used as a proxy.

[charred bolt]

When you add the object as a proxy, you're making the overall object larger, if I understand it?

[north sundial]

in terms of the original footprint?

[charred bolt]

yes

[north sundial]

If im understanding you correctly yes, in a sense. The building on top is the original model and the proxy model is larger as its a platform for it to sit ontop of

Just experimenting with it tbh to see if I can save future work. I.e. if i update the original platform as its own object it will update the versions that have the structures ontop of it automatically

[charred bolt]

It might be a single-object size limitation issue. A quick search reveals some issues with Geometry for heights>2m and we know of the x-y limitations too. But it's not my field of expertise so I'll leave to others more knowledgeable to chime in if they can.

[north sundial]

yeah its not bigger than the xy limitations by any stretch

[stuck oyster]

I would not proxy in geometry lods.

Well I would not build things out of proxies at all.

Proxies have limits on how many can be in view at same time

And they seem to have have shorter draw distances too.

You might add some common parts like furniture in that way.

[north sundial]

Fair enough, I can always set it up in blender to just use linked duplicates to get a similar effect. Was just curious on the weird behaviour

[stuck oyster]

Most likely the proxies extend beyond the physical bounds of the model

Because they are added on runtime

Not processed on binarization when model bounds are set

[north sundial]

Yeah its probably that. No worries. Thanks for the help anyway 🙂

[cedar jacinth]

what are the ideal amount of faces / points for a res1 plane?
I currently have 14K points and 16K faces in OB - test_plane_01 has about the same but when loading up my plane in the editor it takes about 25 secs to load - what could i have done wrong?
Currently i have no resLODs, only the first one since i have not yet set them up - still in "testing" phase 😄

[marsh canyon]

Less is always better. You can use diag_drawMode "wire" to see how the vanilla models are populated with triangles

[zenith bronze]

hey I could use some tips. I am working on a tank and cant seem to get the interior to turn with the turret or follow its gyro. I am mainly doing the functions for it and I am not very knowledgable when it comes to vehicles or tanks

[marsh canyon]

Do you mean the white part

[zenith bronze]

yea

[marsh canyon]

Then that part does not have the proper weight

[zenith bronze]

I see. Would that need to be done in obj builder

[south badge]

Isnt this more of a skeleton / vertex group issue rather than weight?

[zenith bronze]

i thought so but I merged and made the interior the same vertex group as the turret and still same issue

unless i did something wrong which is highly likely

[south badge]

likely yes

check the .rpt log, it will tell you if there is a problem in the skeleton

maybe you already had the white part assigned to one bone, and now you assigned it to a different one at the same time, which will not work

[zenith bronze]

ahh I see

Ima check for any conflictions with vertex groups. This has been more informative that scowering google for the past hour haha

[stuck oyster]

Vertex groups have weight. Unrelated to geometry mass

[south badge]

For some reason I thought of something completely different under "weights"

[stuck oyster]

In modeling weight typically refers to vertex weighting which is related to mesh animation and deforming.

There can be other game specific meanings too like in Arma physx mass/weight of things.

[charred bolt]

Between 50 and 85k triangles would be ok for "modern" highly detailed plane models.
3 or 4 textures perhaps.
But check your "section count" in Object Builder, make sure it's sub 20 or so. Sometimes it gets fragmented to 100's which can cause big issues.
Check your rpt log for error messages.

[unkempt token]

Someone commented on my modular shoothouse doors with this clip, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO_XNmT51Hk where grenades can't pass through doors but players and bullets can. I tested this in bare vanilla with only my walls and the same issue is present. The models themselves are very simple and everything otherwise LOOKS right to me. Why would physx break like this? If I add a geometry phys LOD, it doesnt change anything. The door geom is moving when animated, too.

[unkempt token]

Snap point in geometry assigned to a component :v I'm testing if that fixed it

[charred bolt]

Geometry LOD is primarily for humans v object
Geo Phys is for collisions of physx objects, including grenades.
Fire Geometry is for bullets.

[unkempt token]

Yeah, I just do one geometry LOD since the rest will inherit from it. Given they're not complicated shapes for something like wall pieces, it's just easier. The issue was Component02 was assigned the right cube and also the snap_2 vertex on the bottom left of the model, just un-assigning and redoing the named selections works now

[charred bolt]

Yes, fine to use just Geometry LOD, with penetration materials assigned, if very simple. But of course, expect issues if rules of the LOD are not followed, so glad you got it sorted. Always check closed/convex/component name selections when making these LOD's.

[stuck oyster]

Snap points should be in memory lod. Any reason you have them in geometry lod?

[unkempt token]

I think it's a mistake I carried over from when I first got snapping. I might have misread where I got it from but I believed the snap function was looking for snap_x in the geometry LOD for some reason. It's definitely something I'm gonna go back and review now though.

[stuck oyster]

Sure some script might be looking for that. Don't think vanilla has such though.

[unkempt token]

ah, looking at it, its derived from bin_fnc_cargoPlatform_01_update and it's finding the snap points by pushing back into an array like this:

{
    _snapPointsParent pushBack (_object modelToWorldVisual (_object selectionPosition format["snap_%1",_i]));
};```
which is syntax 1 from <https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/selectionPosition> so I guess it could be in any geometry / hitpoint / memory / landcontact LODs

so it TECHNICALLY works but honestly memory LOD would be so much easier so that this kind of accident with named selections is less likely 😄

[stuck oyster]

Ye you are likely correct there

[elfin bone]

Hello!

I'm having an issue where everytime I load my model into Arma it keep saying my normal can't be found also I think it's causing my shadows not to work properly. http://puu.sh/mgVd3/f6157c5aee.jpg

http://puu.sh/mgVDR/0b97ee2156.png

[obtuse rain]

So the first thing is those shaders aren't really used any more.

[elfin bone]

My shadows weren't working either

[obtuse rain]

You typically use:

PixelShaderID = "Super";
VertexShaderID = "Super";

Unless you were trying to do something unusual.

[elfin bone]

Do you have an Rvmat I could use?

[obtuse rain]

The second is you can't just name your textures anything, they must have the suffix like "_co" or "_nohq" (e.g. MoleHole_nohq.paa) otherwise they won't compress properly (and may even have swapped colour channels).

[elfin bone]

10-4

[obtuse rain]

There's a sample rvmat on the Wiki, but unless you want to go into materials in detail you're best off opening up ARMA .pbo's and stealing the top section (the bit before the stages) from a similar material.

specularPower = 60; is closer to glass than dirt for instance

[elfin bone]

What would you recommend specualpower for dirt?

[obtuse rain]

And if the error ARMA is giving you is that it can't find the .paa, that won't cause your shadows to be messed up.

Depends on how much normal map detail you have, if the normal map is fairly flat you'd need it low so that it doesn't visibly reflect the sky. 😉

[elfin bone]

Better? http://puu.sh/mgXJj/268fd70ff0.png

I'm pretty new to modeling / coding

I don't know much code

learning slowly.

[obtuse rain]

Yeap, you can't just rename the .paa's by the way.

You have to rename the .tga/.png and then convert them to to .paa again.

It's the process of converting them that uses the _co/_nohq tags to see how they need to be compressed/if the alpha channel is needed/etc.

[foggy finch]

for more information on the tags see --> https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Texture_Map_Types

[elfin bone]

just did I converted them again

[obtuse rain]

Yeap, so they should be ready to go.

So shadow LOD's have to be triangles (no quads), have sharp edges and be "watertight".

[elfin bone]

Cannot load my nohq file

[obtuse rain]

Yeap, you need to change the paths in the rvmat to be absolute.

[storm wave]

any way to fix does lines

[elfin bone]

What do you mean?

[stuck oyster]

could be bad rvmat or bad uvmapping

[obtuse rain]

Normally your rvmat would be somewhere like:

\fuz\fuz_molehills\small_molehill\data\dirt.rvmat

If you're using P:, you would put it in:

P:\fuz\fuz_molehills...

[elfin bone]

10-4

P:\Assets\Data

[storm wave]

thanks

[obtuse rain]

Then in your rvmat you would use an absolute path into that:

\fuz\fuz_molehills\small_molehill\data\dirt_nohq.paa

Yeah, you'll want to use a 3 or 4 letter tag and set it out like I've got above.

It ensures your paths/object names never collide with some other addon.

Plus some of the tools (like pboproject) assume you're doing it that way too.

[woeful viper]

there is nothing wrong with not using the super shader - super shader has fresnel reflection, so for anything that has not alot of specularity (e.g. concrete, dirt, etc) it's more ressource friendly to use a more simple shader.

i think the main issue here are the paths

as for shadows not working properly - https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/LOD#ShadowVolume

[elfin bone]

Which shader do you suggest?

PixelShaderID = "NormalMapSpecularDIMap";
VertexShaderID = "NormalMap"; ?

[tough surge]

does anyone know how to disable blocks going thru eachother in blender

like activate collisions

if you can even do that in blender

[stuck oyster]

depends entirely what you try to do

[tough surge]

so like

instead of a block or square or circle/cylinder

going past another one

and being inside of it

or going past it

they collide

[stuck oyster]

going how

[tough surge]

i get you can use the magnet for faces

[stuck oyster]

what moves them

step back some

[tough surge]

me

in the editor

[stuck oyster]

and explain what you do

[tough surge]

I take a block and theres a block in front of it

and i move it

and it goes past that block

I want it

to collide with the face

[stuck oyster]

ok

[tough surge]

just stop and not go past that

[stuck oyster]

thats not a thing really

[tough surge]

damn

[stuck oyster]

snap tools basically are like that

but not exactly what you do

you are looking for some sort of full realtime physics calculation

in edit mode

and I dont think thats a thing

[tough surge]

this is a dumb example

but in roblox studio

theres a collisions

thing

so like blocks cant go past eachother

[stuck oyster]

yeah thats not same

[tough surge]

there is nothing like that?

[stuck oyster]

no

Im thinking you are used to very non 3dmodeling concepts

[tough surge]

i think you can do the collisions thing from what i saw

but only in

animations

[stuck oyster]

yes you can do simulated collision

but like

what exactly do you try to achieve

lets move past the weird technique

what is it you try to do

[tough surge]

can i upload videos here

[stuck oyster]

small ones if you dont have nitro

[south badge]

Sounds like he wants to cut off a mesh at a point where it intersects with another mesh

[stuck oyster]

and have verified at #✔role-selection and accepeted rules at #rules

[stuck oyster]

no thats not quite what im sensing

[south badge]

I will not bet you on it for sure!

[stuck oyster]

block physics have not really relation to that

[tough surge]

i might be wording this very bad

and im sorry

english is not my main language

[stuck oyster]

is ok

just try to explain what you try to model

[tough surge]

ok i have a video

[stuck oyster]

instead of the technique

[tough surge]

see the first part

not the first thing

the second thing i do

like that way

the block stops

it cant go

[stuck oyster]

snap tool would do that

but like

again what do you try to model

[tough surge]

well

sometimes im making stuff

[stuck oyster]

as you might be doing something odd there to achieve it

[tough surge]

and im on like the 2D view

and its hard to get the model

exactly above the other

like on top

it ends up floating or its like

0.000001 up or down

[south badge]

For how many hours have use used Blender up until now?

[tough surge]

and the snap tool for faces

just doesnt work

[tough surge]

im very new

[stuck oyster]

id recommend doing some basic tutorial stuff

and dont model things from blocks

[tough surge]

17 hours

i know some basic stuff like uh

faces

extruding

vertices

loop cuts

i use that a lot

[south badge]

So what is now preventing you from extending one face of the left cube to get a mesh with the correct length

[stuck oyster]

youll want to explore the snap tool options

[south badge]

instead of tacking on a different cube

[stuck oyster]

and yes it is better to build out instead of blocks

as blocks will leave faces between them

[tough surge]

sometimes i uh

[stuck oyster]

which are not good

[tough surge]

i have a lot of loop cuts

and i cant exactly copy just one large face

id have to extrude

each individual face

and i cant get like a

whole solid

[stuck oyster]

you might need to clean up

[tough surge]

part

[tough surge]

ive tried merging vertices or deleting them

[south badge]

sounds like you want to Limited Dissolve

[tough surge]

and sometimes it just breaks stuff

like deleting them deletes faces

and merging t hem

them*

glitches that part

[south badge]

you can also ctrl x on loop cups that you want to remove

[tough surge]

""glitches""

[stuck oyster]

yeah dont merge unless you know what you merge

[tough surge]

fr?

[stuck oyster]

thatll mess stuff up

[south badge]

ctrl-x is "dissolve"

[stuck oyster]

lot of blender tutorial video watching can be very useful

to pick up more how the tools work

[south badge]

if the loop cut / edge holds no geometry, you can remove it this way

[tough surge]

i tend to write down important shortcuts but uh i didnt know about this

[tough surge]

ive seen bits of a lot of stuff when i try to do something i look it up and try to look at how it goes

i also tried looking at uh

[stuck oyster]

youll spend next few months on learning

dont worry

[tough surge]

i think its called

"topology"(?)

but its really complex apparently

[tough surge]

yeah i have a long way

blender is really confusing

i can do stuff its just

[stuck oyster]

terminology will also come more familiar as you make stuff

[south badge]

The most important thing is to suppress tears / anger when it comes to that point

[tough surge]

i either tend to accidentally mess things up and break them or

do things very slowly

[stuck oyster]

that is alright

[tough surge]

and theres many ways to do things faster ive seen

[stuck oyster]

learning this stuff is not a speedrun

youll learn new things 10 years from now

[tough surge]

yeah

ok

the snap tool

i will look into it

thanks for the words and the help you guys

👍

wait @stuck oyster (sorry for the ping)

i have a doubt

are you a dev for Arma?

[south badge]

for your current issue

[tough surge]

aaaah

damn i had no idea

and when you delete the loop cuts

[south badge]

[tough surge]

the form of the figure stays?

even if theres no loop cut there

[south badge]

it depends entirely if the loop cut holds any geometry or not

here all the surfaces are flat, so it is not a problem

[stuck oyster]

not arma specifically

but Ive worked with few of the CDLCs

I just help around here some

[tough surge]

oh alright

[south badge]

depends entirely of what geometry said edge holds

If you delete one that holds nothing, the shape stays. If you delete one that does, it gets modified

[tough surge]

how do you select only loop cuts?

[south badge]

left shift left alt rmb

(no clue if this is a default bind)

I use right click select

[stuck oyster]

mine is alt+rmb

[stuck oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/thisistheway-mandalorian-gif-24962160

[south badge]

I only do so because an Indian guy told me to one and a half years ago!

[tough surge]

is it normal when you modify something

that it darkens up

[cedar jacinth]

Hey, what is the best way to make the fire geometry hull and turret? I have the tracks and wheels done, but im stuck at the rest of the fire geometry.... i saw an example where it uses armorplates? to model the outside of the tank, but the sample does not have this... where can i find a tutorial about this? i guess the armor plate way is more up to date?

[tough surge]

or is that just the shading

[south badge]

Depends entirely of shading. Obviously, a messed up topology will have messed up shading.

I dont know if you use shade smooth or shade flat when modelling stuff.

[tough surge]

thats actually something i have a doubt with

[stuck oyster]

the sample thank has armor blocks modeled

[tough surge]

is there a way to un-shade something

make it completely flat

no smooth no shade

[south badge]

Apparently use can either use a blob with an rvmat with a specific thickness, or "armour plates" with a realistic blender thickness and the appropriate rvmat

[tough surge]

sometimes i like the blocky nature

[stuck oyster]

your wheel/track hit geometry is perhaps quite extensively elaborate

[south badge]

W + Shade smooth / shade flat

[tough surge]

huh

i dont understand

is there a shortcut

[south badge]

Shouldnt one generally try to avoid overlapping FG components?

[tough surge]

for shade smooth

[south badge]

For me the shortcut is "W", which brings up a context menu, and then I select shade smooth

in object mode

[tough surge]

oh alr

[tough surge]

sorry for this but my last doubt is

is there a way to see

if faces are missing

if something has no face

is there a "map" mode to see that?

[stuck oyster]

just put solid drawmode on

also turn on backface culling

so only front side of mesh is drawn

games typically use only front face

[south badge]

I just have "face orientation" enabled

[south badge]

you can set up blender so it shows front faces in one colour, and back faces in a different colour

that way you more easily notice a hole

[tough surge]

thank you

[south badge]

you can also enable the "non manifold" check, which should also show you if you are missing some faces somewhere, but this is generally not something that is always an issue, as you want to delete all the "faces" the player will not be able to see to save on performance and improve texture quality

[cedar jacinth]

But for hull? i heard about something like "RHS Armor System" or something similar?

[stuck oyster]

RHS does their damage modeling their own way

Id recommend disregarding any of that

[elfin bone]

Hm I reworked my model a bit now I'm getting http://puu.sh/mgZyv/b9c800a6da.png

[stuck oyster]

but yes you can and should model the hull plates in real dimensions

that gives them accurate protection characteristics

[pallid island]

i mean, wasn't there a note at wiki about minimal firegeo component thickness being like 0.5m or something?

[stuck oyster]

as for wheels it might already be enough to have just the wheels in there

[stuck oyster]

sure yeah for "non armor" sheet metal the plate rvmats can be better

[cedar jacinth]

How could i give them the exact thickness in blender? Any suggestion for this?

[pallid island]

you model them to exact thickness O_o

[stuck oyster]

yeeh im not sure how to really respond to that

its just modeling

you can make a face

and extrude it 143.4mm if you like

but dont worry about few mm here or there

that wont really matter

or you can use inset face with depth

or make a strip that 50mm wide and extrude that into big plate

many ways to armor the cat

[pallid island]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Damage_Description#Fire_Geometry_Placement says it's 10mm, so ye, thickthin enough to not worry when any actual amount of armor is present

[obtuse rain]

I avoid the older ones because they don't tend to be used in A3 models (and I can't be bothered finding out if they still work properly).

[cedar jacinth]

Alright 🙂 ty 🙂 Ill give that a try 😄

[stuck oyster]

also like I mentioned earlier hitpoints are not as necesessary anymore as you can also model the internal components as blocks

there are only singular points for each hitpoint for explosion damage to reach them

if theres no mesh hitpoints at all, explosions cant do anything

[obtuse rain]

Many of them are only used in 10 or so RVMAT's out of the almost 30,000 RVMAT's that make up the ARMA assets.

[cedar jacinth]

Explosions? like overpressure?

[elfin bone]

WHy would I get http://puu.sh/mgZyv/b9c800a6da.png ?

I've never got this

Today is one of those days.

[cedar jacinth]

Sorry, for conclusion - is modeling the armor plates good? Yes? no?
Should i try to stay as close to sample as possible? Yes? no?
Is there any other sample that i could get to take a look at?

[south badge]

I hate to admit I could never get it to work for some reason

[obtuse rain]

Can your modelling application export FBX?

[elfin bone]

Yes

Someone said I should do OBJ

[obtuse rain]

Oh, odd. What application?

[elfin bone]

For quixel

I'm using 3ds max

[charred bolt]

Recommend you use the damage enhancement system from Tanks DLC
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_Damage_Enhancement
which includes using "armorComponent" in both hitpoint classes and fire geometry, and then you can greatly simplify the hitpoint LOD's down to single points in most cases as HG has been explaining with his screenshots

[cedar jacinth]

Alr ty! Ill take a look at it tomorrow 😄

[stuck oyster]

arma does not simulate overpressure. theres just explosions that do area damage

and non explosive solid shots that do damage if they can penetrate armor hitgeometry and then hit hitpoints or armorcomponent

im pretty sure its explained in the wiki pages linked in this conversation

[cedar jacinth]

👍🏻

[charred bolt]

The biki doesn't explicitly say that using the armor component system replaces the hitpoint spheres for direct ballistic damage, or that only a single point is needed for explosive calculations; those are things I think you and I (HG) determined through experimentation around 4 years ago and have since spread word of. Others may have come to the same conclusions too independently, but many are still using complex hitpoint clouds and getting inconsistent behaviour as a result.

[stuck oyster]

yeah the wiki and samples both are lacking some details unfortunately

I recall the explosions range still has to reach the hitpoint so with a larger hitpoint set you could make a part more susceptible for explosion damage

[cedar jacinth]

Cant BI just update the samples to up to date standards? 😄
Arma 3 is still thriving strong and modders would probably really appreciate the help 😄
Oh, and the game is not yet discontinued, so theres that point 😄

[stuck oyster]

but they dont need to be dense cloud

[charred bolt]

No, from what I can remember, there was no change to damage on where the hitpoint was placed, as long as it was inside the armorComponent. But most blast radius effects would easily have a range larger than the tank, so it would only potentially have an effect when the tank was right on the edge of the blast.

[visual thicket]

Quixel Can use FBX formats it just can sometime have glitches with the models

[elfin bone]

ah

[visual thicket]

Before 2.0 it can only accept Triagulated obj formats, after 2.0 released they added a bunch of new formats but some of them are a bit dodgy

You can give it a go.

[stuck oyster]

👍

[woven solstice]

Hello everyone got a question.
Working on the texturing and painting a model. and the body model is pink

the body is just there for sizing but does this mean I messed something up?

[marsh canyon]

It is just because Blender can't recognize the proper color/material and there is no reason to worry

FF00FF is often used to indicate a matetial that doesn't exist or returning error, and apparently not related to your headgear you do, or Arma

[woven solstice]

thank you

I've finished both hairs I needed modeling for. now to work on an M1 helmet.

[tough surge]

I have a question, does anyone know how I can add a loopcut in blender on 2 faces at the same time?

Like in X-Ray you can choose vertices from 2 faces,

But with loopcuts

for some context i was trying to add loop cuts to only 2 faces so i saw a tutorial and it said to press Y and it separated the faces and now I could add loop cuts only in those 2

but the problem is i wanted to add the loop cuts to both faces

but it only adds it to 1

[woeful viper]

.3ds is best to be used for OB import

[woven solstice]

okay first big hurdle for me.
I was trying to export it to test if I was anywhere close and I got this pop up.

can someone translate for me.

[marsh canyon]

n-gons mean a face that has more than 5 points. You can use only 4 points (quad) or 3 points (tri)

[woven solstice]

I see,

is there a quick way to fix that or do I have to search every face for the five pointers?

[marsh canyon]

Search by sides or whatever its called

[pallid nexus]

Or just run triangulate on the offending LODs (has the side effect of making it hard to recover nice quad topology if you had that)

[woven solstice]

I think I found it. Deleted and fixed the spot.

Now to make the Low Rez copy again and try again.

I feel dumb... I forgot to check the low rez for n-gons...

[cedar jacinth]

Sorry to ask a dumb question.. but is this video up to standard with the Tank DLC? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEDS6MAqjuQ&list=PLBu9iYcvoxKurMX681DVXtWp_FeKS0k2D&index=57

Can i follow this?

[tough surge]

please if someone knows

[cedar jacinth]

#YouTube mby?

[tough surge]

WHAT

what*

wdym

[marsh canyon]

It does mean it is really simple Blender thing I guess

[tough surge]

what does mby mean

[woeful sluice]

Where can I learn how to make a vehicle mod for Arma 3?

[marsh canyon]

Depenss on which kind of vehicle. But BIKI would be the best resort. And Arma 3 Samples as well

[tough surge]

So I could find a solution for it in YT

Do you know any keywords I could search up to not be over specific

Or should I just search up with all the specifics

[south badge]

what do you mean on two faces at the same time?

Loop cuts only work with quad topology

[tough surge]

I just looked it up on YT and i might be wording it wrong

So I saw a tutorial to only add a loop cut on a single face

And it says to select a face and press Y

To separate the faces

So I did, but when I tried to add a loop cut its only to one face

Rather than the normal loop cut which is on both faces

Now that I think of it

Could I not just merge the faces?

If thats an option

[tough surge]

Or like link them (?)

[south badge]

selecting a face and pressing Y will cut the face off, no?

loop cuts are added via ctrl + r

[tough surge]

I did it and it separated the faces

So I could add a loop cut only to those faces

But instead of mirroring like a normal loop cut that goes in the back and front

It only did it in 1 face

I could "merge" the faces(?)

I just thought about that

[south badge]

I am really not sure I understand. A single face (plane) will always have the loop cut on both its front and back face.

[tough surge]

Ah wait

Youre right

I separated the faces

Therefore they arent connected I think

[south badge]

well, yeah

[tough surge]

Is there a way to add a loop cut to 2 specific faces then?

Or merge/link faces

Together

[tough surge]

Specific faces not necessarilly 2

Just a selection

[south badge]

I am unsure if I understand what you want, this is the best I could deduct, that you are trying to add a loop cut to two unconnected faces of a single mesh without the loop cuts being put on to the rest of the mesh

You can also add a loop cut that goes through the whole mesh and then ctrl-x to disolve the loop cuts on faces you dont want the loop cuts to be on

[tough surge]

Exactly

The problem is

The loop cuts wont be exactly on the same spot

Unlike if they were like connected

Theyd be placed in the same way

[south badge]

I reckon then you´ll have to move / slide the newly created vertices to get them in the correct position?

[tough surge]

Is there not an automatic way to do that

I will try and merge the faces and see if it works

Im wording this so badly 😢 🙏

[south badge]

It is easier to explain Blender stuff via a video

[tough surge]

ah yeah im sorry

i dont have obs set up

should probably get it working

[cedar jacinth]

You can also use the „Snipping Tool“ for that from Windows - works okay for stuff like this

[cedar jacinth]

Mby = maybe

[steep crest]

Does anyone know how to make an object with two inventories?

[storm wave]

Cant see textures exept colors in 3d view buldozer in object builder

[stuck oyster]

Don't cut faces loop and merge back the new middle vertices have nothing to merge with and leave the edge open.

Use knife tool with middle snap

Or select faces, hide unselected, loop, unhide all

[bitter atlas]

Good afternoon, I want to make a likeness of Ghillie. I roughly understood how the idea of inserting a texture without a background works. But I don't know how to arrange the texture according to the shape model, which would look voluminous and beautiful. Do you have any ideas about this?

[marsh canyon]

If you use Blender, basically this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic2ppLXS2xQ

[bitter atlas]

Thanks

[tough surge]

Please if someone can tell me how I can do this thing right here, I've added loop cuts in the sections each way like that, but for some reason they don't create any faces and It's all glitched and buggy, I have to fill the faces myself and then It gets fixed(?) but for some reason its still "bugged" and there are multiple faces in the same spot or something like that, can someone please help me with this this has actually never happened to me before and I've done stuff like this before so I don't understand why it isn't working now

[stuck oyster]

make the base shape again

or try to merge the all the corner points together

if you cant properly manipulate it, you somehow messed the mesh

maybe each face is separated or somethin like that

[tough surge]

if i make the shape again

Do I start making those faces first?

Those details*

[stuck oyster]

theres many different ways to make that shape I suppose

[tough surge]

Could I get some advise on how to make this please I've been struggling on this stuff for a while

I'm really new to blender

I never had these issues on the very few things I did before

I'm trying to get all the details

It all breaks when it comes to faces and vertices and that stuff

And that didn't use to happen to me

[pallid nexus]

It might help to run cleanup mesh stuff on it (merge by distance and limited dissolve, to get rid of doubled vertices and stuff)
One method:
Loop cut to make the cuts
Edge slide the loops as needed
Extrude manifold to make the slots on one side
Symmetrize to match the other side

Different method is to work with boolean modifiers and multiple objects (or array modifier),
Non-destructive, but can get weird and slow with multiple batches of booleans

Watching one of the videos on topology can help
It's really easy to make topology that is painful to edit

[tough surge]

Thats exactly what I tried on the last part, booleans

It was slow and I ended up running into a blockaide either way

It made vertices aswell

I think you cant

Make loop cuts

If theyre not 4 vertices

(I believe I might be wrong)

[pallid nexus]

Loop cuts I think expect rings of quads, a pentagon or a triangle will muck it up
But if you have an extruded hexagon as the start of the slide, loop cuts should work

Booleans can be slow to process, changing the mode of the boolean to fast instead of exact will make it much faster

Also, booleans and most other modifiers have a visibility toggle, and are not visible in edit mode by default

[south badge]

I think I would avoid booleans as much as possible, especially if you are new and can´t clean up the topology afterwards

[tough surge]

I am very bad at topology

But I'm trying to aim for such details in the faces

So I have to learn it eventually

For what I wanna do

I mess things up

Way too fast

[pallid nexus]

Yeah, booleans can make ugly topology
Intersecting holes is one of the absolute worst to deal with (trying to make attachable muzzle brakes look good, and the UV is always hellish to deal with)

[pallid nexus]

If you can, plan ahead to how it will be UV mapped, since texturing in Arma is done almost entirely through UV mapped textures

[south badge]

I am not very good at Blender, I´d do it like this. But there´s 100 percent a faster way to do it for sure

[tough surge]

I have a question

How did you fill the faces quickly

And also

Dumb question but

How do you have the cubes be

Or mesh

be blue

That type of

Render

View

[south badge]

you can select the edges you want to fill and press F

that will fill in the space between the selected edges

or if you select two vertices and press F, it will create an edge between them

[south badge]

play around here with the things

[stuck oyster]

less cleanup way would be just extrude the ridges out and then bevel the edge

but like I said many ways to make this

now here is my advice

just play around instead of trying to make something exact (or at least something complex) first

[south badge]

truee

[stuck oyster]

might add to the advice that even if you do something specific dont worry about failing with it

youll just got to try again with some different angle

[elfin bone]

How do I fix my shadows? http://puu.sh/mh8xS/44cec4f699.jpg

I've followed the LOD Guide

[tough surge]

yo

goat

r u up

nah its actually early

but r u busy

tklama is offline

[stuck oyster]

Im just going to sleep. But the channel expects you to just plop down the question you have and when people are around they might answer

[tough surge]

oh alright

good night

[elfin bone]

Also my Geometry isn't working any advise?

[elfin bone]

Do shadows look alright or am I nit picking http://puu.sh/mhb2p/52065f9004.jpg

[cedar jacinth]

How can i make this a convex hull without loosing the hatch shape? Its always "deleting" it...

[marsh canyon]

It does mean you need to make multiple convex shapes

[south badge]

Create 4 components like this for example

[woeful viper]

it won't get any better then this, that's for sure. What's the purpose of this pile of dirt?

[stuck oyster]

convex by definition can not have holes

this is important to remember

[cedar jacinth]

Ohhhhh

Alr 😄 ty

[stuck oyster]

theres lot of convex/concave difference explanations on the web if you want to find out more details

[south badge]

Just make it planar + no holes and you should be good

[cedar jacinth]

Well that would be problematic since the gap is for a hatch which is modeled and should be openend

[woeful sluice]

How can I make the 3D model usable in Arma 3, that is, in the game?

[stuck oyster]

it is a bit big question thats not very simple to answer

what kind of model?

did you make it?

do you have experience with 3d modeling?

[woeful sluice]

There is a 3D model, someone else made it

[south badge]

There will be a gap obviously

You are making 4 separate rectangular components with a hole in the middle between them for the hatch

[prisma mulch]

Out of interest does anything actually need to pass through it?
Otherwise it could be fine to leave it sealed.

[cedar jacinth]

Well my thought was if the driver is turned out that you can also shoot the body instead of for example only the head

but i guess "higher" caliber weapons can easily pen 16mm 😄