arma3_model

[glad niche]

I don't think the problem is with the greenhouse_ruins.p3d file because I put it in the game and it worked fine.

nice,

thanks @stuck oyster

It worked well.

[stuck oyster]

👍

this is far easier and performance friendly way to get ruins

the rtm you thought using earlier might look much fancier

but it is more complex to set up

[glad niche]

Yes you are right, I have given up on animation for now

[grizzled halo]

is there a way to visualize 2 lods at once in O.B?
Its a bit annoying having to go back and forth between memory and whatever other lod needed for ref haha

[stuck oyster]

beyond the yellow bacground draw, no

Id recommend blender for that

[grizzled halo]

what would be the option to show that if you dont mind haha

[stuck oyster]

right click on lod

[grizzled halo]

show background then? That options does nothing for me sadly, doesnt show additional stuff

[stuck oyster]

should look like this

its not really any good for precise aligning of things

[ripe flax]

How do I create the lods of a car for Arm3? I'm teaching with models, test

for a car

[charred bolt]

Use 3d modelling software

[ripe flax]

What would they be? Obj?

[charred bolt]

Try blender

[ripe flax]

I'm using Blender and I have the extensions loaded but the lod creation doesn't lods

[umbral shuttle]

model cfg related question, is it possible to have the area where ViV happens be moved with animation? Like say I have the area on a forklift be ViV so crates can go in, and when forklift goes up the ViV goes up with it?

[bright echo]

vehicleTransporting

0 when the vehicle is not transporting any vehicle, 1 when it is.

oh you mean the like, attachment

uhhhhhHH id say probably not

[umbral shuttle]

ye like say

that area on the forklift is ViV zone

[umbral shuttle]

how can I be forklift certified

I guess attachto would work?

[bright echo]

Yeah you'd just attachto it to the bone thats moving

thats all viv is anyway just in engine

[umbral shuttle]

with a bit better performance I guess

I love seeing composition vehicles move super fast and seeing all the parts lag 🙂

[formal halo]

could you just add the viv memory points to the same vertex group thats moving upward? I'm not sure if that will work but its worth a shot

[umbral shuttle]

Yes did that, attached viv bones to the fork 😦

But I guess like flare memory points, they don't move

[ripe flax]

How can I do it so that they don't trespass on it?

[formal halo]

gun

[ripe flax]

??

[marsh canyon]

I don't even know what this question supposed to be

[ripe flax]

I want to know how I can make it so that they do not trespass or how can I add physical ?

[marsh canyon]

Geometry LOD

[ripe flax]

And another question is there a tutorial on how to integrate a vehicle from scratch to Arma3?

[ripe flax]

Oh, I see

I ask about the tutorial because I tried with trial and error to integrate a vehicle but it did not appear and I could only see the interior with first person

[stuck oyster]

Try El tyranos tutorial series.

And study the wiki and samples on steam

[grizzled halo]

ElTyranos tutorials pretty much hand holds you into adding a vehicle (tank), there is nothing simpler than that.
If you need specific help you can always ask here too, but usually broadly asking gets you nowhere.

[woeful viper]

got sick of the dark grey... amazing what a bit of color can do
http://abload.de/img/2015-12-22_000038oqb6.jpg
http://abload.de/img/2015-12-22_00002ejo87.jpg
http://abload.de/img/2015-12-22_00004xarv1.jpg
http://abload.de/img/2015-12-22_00006jzr4x.jpg

[last spindle]

its not pink though

[woeful viper]

i said a bit of color, not an overdose 😄

also... 5 sections for the whole tank

wait... that doesnt make sense... i have 3 textures -.-

[last spindle]

make sense to me.......i would assume there are maybe 5 different materials, or proxy objects, or some z-bias settings in there aswell

[woeful viper]

well 1 is for untextured stuff, including proxies

ff... this again .... apparently the black textured part has 2 sections even though it's 1 material + 1 texture

[storm wave]

why when i add metirial to the model when i place the model the game crashes

[storm wave]

and how do i fix thes lines

[thin salmon]

if you're talking about the diagonal lines across it, it looks to be the material tiling

[storm wave]

it changes in where you looks at it from

if you move it changes

[lone robin]

If I recall correctly it has something to do with your mesh normals. Go back into blender and apply an auto smooth modifier to it and ensure what should be sharp edges on the model are actually marked sharp.

[stuck oyster]

change time of day

[shy hamlet]

I can't get the plane to not fall through. I have set the points in LandContact, there are also feet in the geometry. But the plane falls down when I check it.

[short marsh]

For the effect of helicopters when you get down to the ground, the dust effect... Is it possible to duplicate it? I was thinking that I can have my ducted fans have two effects to mimic what it would do in real life, or is it stuck to just one effect?

[lusty ginkgo]

can you add the pedestrians only parameter to a road p3d?

[ripe flax]

Only exported 6/8 LODs (check the logs in the system console)
I don't know where the error is

[grizzled halo]

did you apply transformations before exporting the p3d?

weapon body has to be parallel to barrel definition (usti/konec memory points) most of the times, and have to have an specific direction too in the 3d space

import sample into blender and properly orient

[grizzled halo]

^

[ripe flax]

I was able to fix that now the problem is that the fire from the shot appears

[grizzled halo]

the orientation of your proxies are not correct

[stuck oyster]

compare yours to the sample weapon

[ripe flax]

Yes, I could do it and I already fixed that

[grizzled halo]

Is it better to declare memory points that need to follow movement as bones or should the memory points be included in named selections corresponding to bones in resLods?

[charred bolt]

Usually the latter as it simplifies the skeleton and saves bone count.

[grizzled halo]

understood, already shaved a lot of the skeleton we spoke about. Thanks

[dark flume]

been working with a friend on the pre production of a Gundam Mod

[storm wave]

why when i add metirial to the model when i place the model the game crashes

[faint sage]

i am trying to make a pistol but slider became unvisible any solutions?

[storm wave]

how can i convex it other way

and how is this model not triangulated

[lone robin]

The geometry lod doesn’t look convex. It should just be a couple simple boxes. Also in OB you can press CTRL+A, select topology and find triangulate convex. After you fix your geometry

[storm wave]

these lines if you can see them how do i fix them

and make the objects texture visible from far away

[lone robin]

Once again, check your object in blender and apply an auto smooth modifier to it and that may alleviate those lines. Do you have your material assigned to all of your resolution lods ?

[storm wave]

yes

and the shade smoth thing make the shdows not good

[lone robin]

I would still check material paths to all of your resolution LODs, somehow you have a blank mesh

[storm wave]

i used the arma 3 a3 concret rvmat

[lone robin]

Do you have a _CO assigned to the face of the object ?

[storm wave]

what is thet

[storm wave]

how do i increas the texture render distence for an object

[lone robin]

The actual texture you’re assigning to the model aka the picture you want on the mesh

[storm wave]

yes

[lone robin]

How many resolution LODs do you have ?

[storm wave]

1

[analog garden]

Turn off shadows, if it’s still there it’s ambient occlusion engine bug

[ripe flax]

I was finally able to do it, thank you very much for the tips

Sorry for the quality but I had to upload it like this

[obtuse rain]

Substance has a really nice one for height map painting: https://share.allegorithmic.com/libraries/579

But since you often want to stick them on angle joins I was wondering if a mesh based one might look better.

Might grab that polycount one and see how it looks with the substance alpha...

[last spindle]

if you are trying to create a weld between two surfaces that are not coplanar you will usually have/want to create a ring that intersects both and gives you a flat smaller angle to paint onto

http://jokermartini.com/welder/ is a quick way to do it for highpoly work

[honest atlas]

I have a 3d model of a uniform but how can I get it into the game? Do I have to put bones or something on it? I've watched several tutorials but they don't explain that process or the game detects it by itself, please help

[stuck oyster]

it needs to be weighted to fit Armaman skeleton

you can use the sample character as reference

skeleton itself is not transferred into the game

the animation system already has it

[ripe flax]

How can I add proxies for the driver?

[stuck oyster]

wheres the model from?

[ripe flax]

is from BlenderKi I have a subscription there

Is there a problem if the model is from that place?

[stuck oyster]

looks like alright source.

[stuck oyster]

but also leads to question, do you know how to do 3d modeling? 😅

[ripe flax]

Not much alone, but I've already taken a course to learn well

If the proxy goes like this?

[stuck oyster]

you can find arma3 samples on steam where there are examples

those will show you reference on where and what direction to put proxies at

[ripe flax]

ah ok

[stuck oyster]

in your picture the proxy is facing back of the vehicle

[ripe flax]

Right?

[faint sage]

hey, i am making a smg mod but even though i have magazine and gun script done well gun does not fire when click left mouse button

any help ?

[stuck oyster]

may be more a #arma3_config thing. post your config there along with the problem description

[stuck oyster]

this is the sample yes 👍

[rich meadow]

I added a custom object and now I want to add some action in it when making it spawn using the following code:

private _pos = getPosATL player; 
private _sensor = "vn_prop_sandbag_01" createVehicle _pos;
 
 [_sensor, ["Greetings!", { hint "Hello!"; }]] remoteExec ["addAction"];

This works on the sandbag item. But when excuting this on my custom object "colsog_static_handsid_sensor" (CfgVehicle) I don't see the action...

Here is my object config.cpp

class CfgPatches
{
    class handsidsensor 
    {
        units[]={};
        weapons[]={};
        requiredVersion=0.1;
        requiredAddons[]={"A3_Characters_F"};
    }
}

class CfgMagazines
{
    class CA_Magazine;
    class colsog_inv_handsid_sensor: CA_Magazine
    {
        author = "Gerard";
        mass = 100;
        scope = 2;
        value = 1;
        displayName = "Handsid sensor";
        picture = "\handsidsensor\icons\icon.paa";
        model = "\handsidsensor\objects\handsidsensor.p3d";
        type = 256;
        count = 1;
        initSpeed = 18;
        nameSound = "handgrenade";
        maxLeadSpeed = 6.94444;
        descriptionShort = "Handsid sensor";
        displayNameShort = "Handsid sensor";
    };
};

class CfgVehicles 
{
    class Static;
    class colsog_static_handsid_sensor : Static 
    {
        scope = 2;
        model = "\handsidsensor\objects\handsidsensor.p3d";
        displayName = "Handsid sensor";
        faction = "Empty";
        vehicleClass = "Small_items";
    };
};

Anyone knows why ? :/

[stuck oyster]

does the p3d have view and fire geometry?

and normal geometry lods

[rich meadow]

not sure :/ How can I see this ?

I tried with another inheritance and object spawn but despawn 1 sec later (so it is not working neither, probably missing something in the config.cpp but what ? How can I check ?)

class CfgVehicles 
{
    class Item_Base_F;
    class colsog_static_handsid_sensor : Item_Base_F 
    {
        scope = 2;
        model = "\handsidsensor\objects\handsidsensor.p3d";
        displayName = "Handsid sensor";
        faction = "Empty";
        vehicleClass = "Small_items";
    };
};

[stuck oyster]

it does not

[rich meadow]

How can I add it , do you have some useful links by any chance ? 🙂

[white oak]

samples and LOD page on tge wiki

[rich meadow]

Will try now with

class CfgVehicles 
{
    class Static;
    class colsog_static_handsid_sensor : Static 
    {
        scope = 2;
        model = "\handsidsensor\objects\handsidsensor.p3d";
        displayName = "Handsid sensor";
        faction = "Empty";
        vehicleClass = "Small_items";
    };
};

[stuck oyster]

youll also need a valid component in there

and probably fire and view geometries too

[white oak]

What kind of object is this?

[rich meadow]

I did the step to validate the component Will check to add fire and view geometry. Btw, are we sure my issue are linked to this and not the parent class I inherit ? 🤔

[stuck oyster]

yes

[rich meadow]

I want to create an object ( a sensor) and using script addAction on it. I can do it on sandbags, etc. but when trying on minde no

[stuck oyster]

I dont rember which geometry it was thats needed for eye to see it for showing actions

[white oak]

Interact just needs memory point afaik

And for that simple of an object geo should suffice

[stuck oyster]

and the geometry

mempoint is not mandatory either as it defaults to object center

[rich meadow]

what is the memory point ? 🤔

[stuck oyster]

you may have some studying to do in the wiki 😅

memory lod is where memotypoints are defined

[rich meadow]

yeah indeed, but not really clear xD

[stuck oyster]

and they are vertices with named selections that tie into various engine functions/config parameters

[rich meadow]

i will try until I have somethjing that works 🙂

[rich meadow]

I guess this needs to be defined in the config.cpp ?

[stuck oyster]

you can also check out the samples for reference

[stuck oyster]

the user action config or script command has a parameter for tying the action to a memorypoint

[white oak]

You name the vertex in OB/Blender then reference it in config under class useraction

[rich meadow]

I don't know what I did but my item became a member of the KKK apparently :/

[stuck oyster]

😱

[grizzled halo]

We got magus hats before A4

[rich meadow]

Still not working but not hat this time 👒

• I have Geometry LOD
• Fire Geometry
• View Geometry seems not visible for Object Builder :/

Also, to create those 3 LOD i duplicated the 1.000 LOD and changed the type, maybe not a good way to do this

[stuck oyster]

youll need a box component there

[sour bough]

Well, that Geometry looks...like a res lod

[rich meadow]

Anyone available for a quick chat to help me figure this out xD Learned how to model object last week so really I am not an expert BUT if there are simple steps I am missing that would help a lot

[rich meadow]

yeah but from what I understood it should still work

[sour bough]

Well, as a geo lod it won't

[stuck oyster]

Make it a simple box

[rich meadow]

I did all modelling on Blender, I assume I can do that in Object Builder and simply select box as Geomtry and the rest as the compoenent right ?

[stuck oyster]

will be good practice to do it all in blender

the rest of your question I do not quite understand

[rich meadow]

baiscally I was asking how to do it . But I think i have enought info to try various ways and hopefully one will work 🙂

[stuck oyster]

Make a box thats the size of your case, make that geometry lod type, give it component name according to the naming rule (there is a tool in the toolbox for that) duplicate that and make each fire and view geometry same

and last in geometry lod give the component mass so it gets simulated

[rich meadow]

Will check on how to do that on Blender 👍 . Is the minimum weight 10 and is this mandatory ? :/ Some items might be less heavy

[sour bough]

mass is ultimately arbitrary and relative and 10 is the minimum at which a player will collide with it

[rich meadow]

Okok so only for player collision , nice

[honest atlas]

What is the sample character or where can I get it? I'm very new to this.

[honest atlas]

This is my model but how can I put it in the game? At the moment I have it in Blender. I am interested in knowing how the bones are animated or how that programming process is done.

[stuck oyster]

I would recommend starting from something simpler than character to learn the basics of configs and Arma lods first

[honest atlas]

I've already watched a lot of tutorials on how to put the uniforms in, but I still don't know how to do that with the bones for the uniform. How do you do that?

[fluid copper]

take the sample character, and look up how to transfer weights in blender, then use the provided model.cfg with the sample uniform

[honest atlas]

Where is the sample character?

[fluid copper]

You can download the samples from steams tools section in your library

[honest atlas]

Ty

Once I've done that, I have to program the bones of the uniform or how that works, which I haven't seen in any tutorial how they do.

[stuck oyster]

what program do you use?

youll have to look up how vertex group weights are set in that

and whats your model from?

you have some gaps in your basic modeling knowledge so you might need to go back a few steps and learn basics of things like animting and rigging model before continuing with arma specifcs

[fluid copper]

There are no bones, it uses weighting. You can transfer them directly from the sample uniform in Blender. As far as programming them, the default sample model.cfg has almost everything out of the box, you just need to assign your model name in it, should be as simple as swapping the provided name at the bottom. After that its just a basic cpp config file

[stuck oyster]

(im not sure if blender is in use this time so might not be the solution)

[fluid copper]

The screenshot looks like it to me, but you're right

[rich meadow]

I did that but instead of using a box i used the object (should work from what I saw online). Now I have but still not possible to add an action on it (or at least see the action) :/

I also updated slightly the config.cpp to match a bit more the one of the sandbag. Here it is currently:

class CfgPatches
{
    class handsidsensor 
    {
        units[]={};
        weapons[]={};
        requiredVersion=0.1;
        requiredAddons[]={"A3_Characters_F"};
    }
}

class CfgMagazines
{
    class CA_Magazine;
    class colsog_inv_handsid_sensor: CA_Magazine
    {
        author = "Gerard";
        mass = 100;
        scope = 2;
        value = 1;
        displayName = "Handsid sensor";
        picture = "\handsidsensor\icons\icon.paa";
        model = "\handsidsensor\objects\handsidsensor.p3d";
        type = 256;
        count = 1;
        initSpeed = 18;
        nameSound = "handgrenade";
        maxLeadSpeed = 6.94444;
        descriptionShort = "Handsid sensor";
        displayNameShort = "Handsid sensor";
    };
};

class CfgVehicles 
{
    class Static;
    class colsog_static_handsid_sensor : Static // <- This object here
    {
        scope = 2;
        model = "\handsidsensor\objects\handsidsensor.p3d";
        displayName = "Handsid sensor";
        faction = "Default";
        vehicleClass = "Objects";
    };
};

I guess now something is wrong in the config since I have the different LODs 🤔

Here is the .p3d in case it can help

and the cmd that I want to work

private _pos = getPosATL player; 
private _sensor = "colsog_static_handsid_sensor" createVehicle _pos;
 
[_sensor, ["Greetings!", { hint "Hello!"; }]] remoteExec ["addAction"];

[quick terrace]

that script of joker works abou 70% of the time

[rich meadow]

Another diff, in game I can see the sandbagh object but not the sensor (my item) but I can make it spawn, etc.

[stuck oyster]

well I suppose you can make a convex blob out of the object too

[quick terrace]

i tend to do my welds mesh manually

[rich meadow]

I just tested with a Box as well and not working neither 😦

[stuck oyster]

did you give it the componentXXX naming?

[quick terrace]

directly in max

[rich meadow]

Noiw Trying to add

[this, ["Greetings!", { hint "Hello!"; }]] remoteExec ["addAction"];

Directly in the object:

• in game and when placed in the editor: working for sandbag but not my item,

I can walk straight though my object as well, maybe implying the LOD geometry is not done properly ?

[quick terrace]

there is nothing a noise modifier can't help you with 😉

[rich meadow]

well, I give up for tonight... 🥲 4 hours on this to no avail

Thx for the help HorribleGoat 👍 Will try to see if I messed up something somehow (but tomorrow)

[sour bough]

Are there any animation sources for weapons that can alternate between shots? All I can think of is to do something clever with revolving and whatnot

...Ammo, then you loop it?

[sour bough]

class BarrelSwap
{
    type = "translation";
    source = "ammo";
    sourceAddress = loop;
    selection = "barrelswap";
    axis = "barrelswap_axis";
    minValue = 0;
    maxValue = 1.0000000000000000001;
    offset0 = 0;
    offset1 = 1;
};

It ended up being something like this, for anyone else who's trying to do the same thing.

[ripe flax]

I was looking at the models of a person who sold them to me and I checked them on the OBJ and it said that it was signed by another person someone knows why ?

and this person was selling them to me for 15 dollars I just asked for a test one and he gave me this

[charred bolt]

The LOD properties indicate that the model contains objects created by RKSL Studios and John Spartan amongst others, so likely to be ripped and illegal.
Bin it/report it.

[ripe flax]

What if this model is in the workshop?

[rich meadow]

Aynone here as a .p3d object with geometry LOD, etc that I could use to test ? 🙂

Some how I did it but not sure i will be able to reproduce what I did 💀

Depending on angle, object seems to blink, disapear

[rich meadow]

From testing, this view glitch happens when I have 2 of those items in view 🦐

[bold flare]

#arma3_model message

[rich meadow]

thx ! Will write the steps I followed to have something that is working (with visual glitch but hey, at least it is an improvment) and then will take a look at the example and compare 🙂 Thx !

[bold flare]

#arma3_texture message Here are some more I think

[rich meadow]

By any chance, do you have an idea for the blinking item glitch I have ? It only occurs when 2 items of the same type are in my FOV 🤔

migth have found the cause :

• Geometry objects should have a thickness of at least 0.5 meters in order to work properly. (did not add thichness, maybe the issue )

[rich meadow]

I found a way to make it work consistently I think 🙏 Last issue I have is the weird glitch visual bug when 2 items are visible and this error popping 🤔 Any idea how to resolve this one ?

[obtuse rain]

How do arms and hands work as far as having the correct texture? Does it just apply the faces-driven texture to anything with the magic "hl" selection in your uniform model?

[bold flare]

That error should already trigger when you put down just one of these objects.
An entry in your config is missing. Though I never heard of a "submerged" entry

[stuck oyster]

Guarantees nothing. You have been scammed.

[grizzled halo]

no, do a fired eventhandler and alternate animationSources for your muzzleflash and bullet creation

[sour bough]

I solved it without scripting, check below

Also you can't affect sources on a weapon with scripting

Also for some reason I've never actually gotten two different zasleh's proxied in to work, might be an engine restriction? Iirc the grenade launcher zasleh's are just included in the res lod wholesale

[stuck oyster]

yeh that seems to be a thing

so they got to be done via hide animations

[sour bough]

yeah

Not a huge deal to me

Though I guess if you use the same zasleh you could just translate with the muzzle source

[stuck oyster]

possibly yeah

[sour bough]

I've done it before :)!

Iirc you can also translate your usti and konecs

[charred bolt]

Sounds like you've got it sorted, but you can have a closer look at MLRS (such as in 3CB Factions pack) for most of these complex animations with multi-barreled weapons where firing points, case ejection, fx and muzzle flashes all move around between shots.

[sour bough]

Yeah I asked and then Immediately solved it lol

[low falcon]

hello, hope you are all well. i have a question about the vehicles in arma. is there a mod or even just a webpage that allows you to locate all vehciles engine/fueltank locations internally? in the VR you have 3 models of which you can see where the fueltank and engine are located inside. i looked online and found a page that also covered the ifrit but nothing more. any help of this would be great

[stuck oyster]

no dont think there is

the VR see through models are separately made for that purpose

[low falcon]

i know i understand, i was just curious if there was even just pictures depicting the location of the fuel tanks and engines of each vehicle as they are modeled to have them initially

[stuck oyster]

my guess is no. Field manual would probably cover it if there were

[low falcon]

I found these online but this is the only examples I could find

[stuck oyster]

I believe they are just community made

[low falcon]

ahhh okay makes sense. i guess i was hoping there was a way to figure it out besides just going into an editor and shooting away until i hit it XD

[stuck oyster]

also I guess this question is more a #arma3_questions stuff not related to model making. so lets keep it short

[low falcon]

sorry i came here as i thought this would be my best chance as it was model related. apologies

[stuck oyster]

no worries. it could have been.
You can look into scripting commands for ways to draw different hitboxes on your view

or possibly the diagnostic Exes drawmodes might be able to help

[low falcon]

okay thank you ill give it a go 🙂

[rich meadow]

• I fixed all my errors ✅
• I update the procedure I am writing (tutorial for beginners basically): https://github.com/gerard-sog/arma3-macvsog-columbia-items posting it here in case it helps someone (the readme contains the procedure steps by steps to create an object from scratch) 👍

[charred bolt]

This will do exactly what you want:
dev branch, diagnostic exe
diag_drawMode "FireGeometry";
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/diag_drawMode

[low falcon]

thank you 🙂

without sounding too stupid....how do i use it?

[pastel heath]

In here you are missing model.cfg basicly if you want to add animation on a object or selections for example like a laptop that you can put a picture on it. You can read more here about it if you want to add that to tutorial as well.
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Model_Config
https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/ArmA:_Armed_Assault:_Howto_Model_Config
And here is a nice tutorial for door animation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Xa4y_4PsM
Also i beleve you didnt add the material to fire geometry so when you shoot at the object it plays like you are shooting at metal/dirt what ever material is. As well as adding the sounds when you are walking on top of the object if object is larger and it needs sounds to play you can watch this video on how to add sounds to object.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxGIgurkzW4&list=PLD7vclnmlFUulaJtVoL1DFoODHhHfJF2S&index=11
If you go from 30 min onwoards on second video you can see how he basicly added "Sounds to object" when walking and fireing at object.

[charred bolt]

In Steam, switch version of Arma to development branch, wait for download.
In Arma folder, run arma3diag_x64.exe to start the game
When in game, press ESCAPE for the debug console
Enter diag_drawMode "FireGeometry";
Press Escape to exit console, and back in game everything will render with Fire Geometry boxes rather than the usual resolution LOD.

@low falcon ^

[low falcon]

thank you apollo i really appreciate this

[rich meadow]

will take a look for sure 🙂 thx

[low falcon]

im just downloading the development branch now

[charred bolt]

If you use diag_drawMode "Shots"; at the same time you can see the ballistic trajectory for each bullet, where it hits, how it penetrates and ricochets / exits on the Fire Geo.

[low falcon]

thats amazing! thank you

[low falcon]

@charred boltam imissing something as it doesnt seem to work for the helis

[pallid island]

whaaaat

[low falcon]

@charred boltyeah it doesnt seem to show the internal components with this as the fuel tank for the strider is located just above the rear wheel

[stuck oyster]

zoom into the model

[low falcon]

i tried its solid

internals are just empty

[charred bolt]

That's because BI didn't create a specific fuel tank fire geo for the Strider.

[pallid island]

i mean, this is achievable by some scripting shenanigans in dev build, but it isn't likely to be very accurate for big sparse hitpoint clouds, for example

||crappy|| code at https://pastebin.com/2BgEd2xL + diag exe + diag_drawmode "wire" once + splendid camera

and doesn't care for hitpoint radius as well

[charred bolt]

Fire Geo + Shots

[pallid island]

i guess diag_toggle "Shots", not diag_drawMode?

[charred bolt]

Ah yes, typo in command, if that's what you meant with your comment

[charred bolt]

Yes, it works for heli's, as for any other object.
If the fire geo is sufficiently detailed, you might need to zoom inside to see interior details.

[low falcon]

ahhh i understand now thank you

[pallid island]

with some vector chicanery, but i don't get why the drawLine3D/drawIcon3D produce different colors on the screen

[low falcon]

oh thats cool how do i get the boxes like that?

[pallid island]

more pastebin spam for spam god: https://pastebin.com/CXgAiDni (it expects the target vehicle to be named "tank" in the editor)

[stuck oyster]

cool

[waxen sky]

Does anyone know how to fix this texture error?

[rich meadow]

Yes , path to texture should be from main directory of the mod

In your case probably : testakcv\data\texture.paa

[waxen sky]

I didn't know that weapons used data

[stuck oyster]

where did you get the model from

[rich meadow]

From what I know you should have a structure for your mod with a data folder right under the main folder :/ (I might be wrong)

[stuck oyster]

are there textures with it?

[waxen sky]

sketchfab I'm trying to learn how to convert

[stuck oyster]

since it seems to be in PBR metallic/rough texture format those wont really work well in Arma

Arma uses different kind of shaders

first thing you need to do is set up your P drive and tools right

so you can actually produce a working pbo

dont use pbomanager

[waxen sky]

i can make a p drive using disco d not disco c

[stuck oyster]

P drive is typically a virtual drive

that is loaded from a folder from your real drives

it represents the games internal file system for the tools

https://pmc.editing.wiki/doku.php?id=arma3:tools:setup-p-drive

[waxen sky]

The problem is that my disk that it picks up is very full

[stuck oyster]

you doing it wrong then.

use the method in the link so you can easily define what folder you use

[waxen sky]

ok

[waxen sky]

is giving this error when I extract the game data

I managed to fix it here

[stuck oyster]

did you use arma3p from mikero tools?

dont use the P drive setup in the launcher

[waxen sky]

no

i fix

[waxen sky]

same error

[stuck oyster]

your path does not look right

you mod contents should not be in the P;\A3 folder at all

thats for arma3 data

your mod stuff would go into P:\yourmodproject\yourTAG_yourmod\the files

and you would pack yourTAG_folder into a pbo

P drive should not have any folders with @ or any addons\ folders

@modname\addons is folder where pbo would go

as a local mod folder

not P drive project folder

[waxen sky]

like this

[stuck oyster]

is this the virtual drive?

and no

this is not right

[waxen sky]

yes

[stuck oyster]

why is there a folder pdrive in it?

[waxen sky]

is the game data

[stuck oyster]

the game data should be at P:\a3\

no extra folders

[waxen sky]

ok

[stuck oyster]

run mikeros arma3p

that will do it all for you

less chance of mistake

[waxen sky]

what i use

[stuck oyster]

arma3p

and you dont seem to have all the tools installed

go to mikeros bytex store page and get the all in one installer

[waxen sky]

what is the name

[stuck oyster]

AIO installer

(All In One)

[waxen sky]

what i do

[stuck oyster]

then run arma3p

[stuck oyster]

P

and then N when it asks if you want dubbing

[waxen sky]

ok

[waxen sky]

as I see it stopped

now I play my folder with mod in the p driver

[stuck oyster]

yes

select yourself a mod tag. often 3 letters like CUP or RHS or ACE

but can be more

that will be what you add to your folders, files and classnames to make them unique to your mod

https://www.ofpec.com/tags/index.php?action=list

then you make a P:\yourTag folder where all your stuff goes

if you make a gun mod you could have P:\yourtag\yourtag_myFancyGuns\

[waxen sky]

like this

[stuck oyster]

none of that stuff

no @folders

no addons folders

those dont belong to P drive

[stuck oyster]

texture and rvmat files typically are put in a data\ folder

so aat_testeal\data

[waxen sky]

It is necessary to have RVMAT

[stuck oyster]

well

no

but your model looks like poop without it

[waxen sky]

it just to test

[stuck oyster]

for testing no sure

but then again might as well learn all the necessary things

[waxen sky]

i gonna test if works

[toxic cobalt]

Hello guys, I was seeing if anyone was good at making models for Arma 3 cause I am making a cold war scenario and need an F-111 Aardvark if that's possible for someone to make that would be great I cab post some photos with it to.

If someone can make something like this please let me know that would be a great help thank you

[scarlet mirage]

I don't know if it's against the rules, but if it isn't, maybe offer a little bit of $$ for their time

[toxic cobalt]

yeah I probs will to be fair

[stuck oyster]

you can post #creators_recruiting to offer commission or find someone to make stuff. Here we discuss how things are made

[stuck oyster]

source models can be paid for yes

[toxic cobalt]

ah ok I didn't know that thanks

[stuck oyster]

you can also browse places like cgTrader and artStation to find artists who make commision

the "putting it into Arma" part can not be paid for though

[toxic cobalt]

ok thank you

[stuck oyster]

you honestly have easier time if you just use something similar enough from existing mods

Also you will get a lot of scammers try to fool you so be very careful who you trust

[scarlet mirage]

basically, if they cannot PROVE their work, walk away - many decent modders can prove their stuff

[scarlet mirage]

I knew the source models could be paid for, I didn't know you couldn't offer a little to someone to help put it into a modpack for arma for you, good to know 🙂

[stuck oyster]

that gets people paying, making and the mods banned

[scarlet mirage]

this is very good to know, thank you for clarifying, hopefully people start to see and understand this message/rule from Bohemia, and maybe take heed to it, there are so many amazing creators out there, yet it seems that there are almost as many aiming to make a profit in ways that they aren't allowed ( I assume this, because that rule wouldn't be there if that wasn't the case.... same with warning labels, wouldn't be there if something hadn't happened to force them to be 😉 - mostly joking about warning labels lol

[stuck oyster]

#creators_recruiting

[foggy finch]

anyone know if this is possible.. we already have hiddenselectiontextures[] = {"selectionname"};, is it possible to do the same with rvmats ? the script command setObjectMaterial exists for this, but I do not see anything config-wise to enable this,. could be a feature request

i.e. be able to define different mats in the config that you can switch to

(that arent damage mats or hitpoint related)

n/m will try with standard hiddenselections[], damned config megalist hidden in wiki 😄

[last spindle]

hiddenSelectionsMaterials[] = ........

not sure it works all the time or always as expected

[sturdy orchid]

Hey uh, can anyone here teach me how to model in arma 3?

[marsh canyon]

Do you mean you need an assistance with modelling process itself or importing into Arma 3

[sleek trout]

What kind of LAV?

[south badge]

You don´t model in Arma 3, you model in modelling softwares

[sturdy orchid]

Yea

[stuck oyster]

its not a yea question

😅

[sturdy orchid]

Oh

[stuck oyster]

1 or 2

or both

bot not yea

[sturdy orchid]

Assistance

[stuck oyster]

with what

exactly

[sturdy orchid]

I need help trying to recreate the federation soldiers from cod ghosts

[stuck oyster]

well first you need to learn how to 3d model

[sturdy orchid]

Apparently I'm trying to use these models for a large mod

[stuck oyster]

models?

from where?

models from other games cant be used

as thats stealing

[sturdy orchid]

Yea

[stuck oyster]

and we have 0 tolerance for that

[sturdy orchid]

But I can try recreating them

[stuck oyster]

sure

do you know how to 3d model?

at all

[sturdy orchid]

No

But I really need help with that

[stuck oyster]

then youll first have to forget any particular goals

and pick up basic tutorials on whatever program you want to learn

like Blender is good and free

[sturdy orchid]

Alright

[stuck oyster]

and has lot of tutorials

[sturdy orchid]

I'll stick with blender

[stuck oyster]

and expect learning all thats necessary to take few weeks to few months at least

theres multiple larger topics like 3d modeling, uvmappingm texturing etc that a then break down to smaller sub topics accross various techniques youll have to figure out

and how to make a game character is combination of all of them

[sturdy orchid]

True

Do you know any 3d model makers who can help me?

[stuck oyster]

Id guess people generally dont have months of time for personal teaching like that

small specific questions are easy to answer

but "teach me to 3d model" is what people got to schools for

[sturdy orchid]

That is very true

[stuck oyster]

so no sorry I dont know anyone who does that kind of teaching

[sturdy orchid]

Oh, it's alright

[stuck oyster]

its all possible to learn on your own

you just got to be patient and practice a lot and watch and read tutorials

[sturdy orchid]

Alright

[rich meadow]

I have a basic procedure you can follow if you want it is here : https://github.com/gerard-sog/arma3-macvsog-columbia-items Should work for "basic" items

I explain everything from Blender to actually deploying a mod for the said item 👍

(modelling on Blender will have to be learned online though, so vast that impossible to teach that in any procedure xD )

[lyric harbor]

What is the first thing to do after completing a 3d model of a vehicle

[stuck oyster]

texture it

[lyric harbor]

I mean after that

[stuck oyster]

well what do you intend to do with it?

[lyric harbor]

I want to make a vehicle mod

[charred bolt]

Make Geometry, Geometry Phys, Buoyancy, View Geometry, Fire Geometry, Shadow Volume 0, Shadow Volume 10, View Pilot/Gunner/Cargo, Memory, LandContact, Hitpoints and multiple resolution LOD's.
Write config.cpp, including CfgPatches, CfgVehicles, maybe also CfgWeapons
Make new character animation rtm's.
Make model.cfg with skeleton bones, sections and animations.
Allow 6-12 months hard work.

[glad niche]

hi all

[stuck oyster]

ripping the game models is not allowed

we have 0 tolerance for that

this is your one and only warning

@glad niche is that clear

[errant pumice]

What all determines how many damage does the body/armor take in a p3d model? Trying to fix some of units, they are currently sponges for bullets... of all types.

[woeful viper]

again?

[errant pumice]

it happens I work on islands, units... not so much 😃 but in this community a lot of stuff has to be done by yourself or it never gets done 😉

[woeful viper]

vanilla damage model or something else?

[errant pumice]

yeah vanilla

i'm going through this now https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_Soldier_Protection

[woeful viper]

and what effect does it have?

if youre dealing with 3rd party addons, how do you know the hitpoints in the model are even setup correctly for the uniform?

[foggy finch]

@last spindle thanks, I'll pass it on to the guy asking, nothing in biki about that 😉

[woeful viper]

nvm

[foggy finch]

hehe 😄

[errant pumice]

X3KJ well model is made by a friend, all proper as I can tell. Units take tremendous amount of fire and dont get killed easy... like dealing with robocops lol

[woeful viper]

with or without armor equipment?

if without armor then check https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3_Damage_Description#Standard_Hit_Damage and compare those values to vanilla units

[errant pumice]

tnx!

X3KJ found the issue, vest had armor of 30(!) geez...

lol 😃

[glad niche]

Oh I'm sorry

Thank you

[errant pumice]

any clue why an ammobox is not visible in Zeus? It has a scopeCurator = 2; value

[woeful viper]

cfgpatch?

[storm wave]

how do some object i see in object builder are not triangulated

and if i use rvmat for metirial does it put texture or i need to add texture and metirial in the same face

[sly plover]

Hello everyone, someone can help me to find this uniform in the files, i can't find it and i want to retexture it ( change the camo )

im new at it so pls forgive me for this dumb question

[pallid island]

prolly this (from https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Arma_3:_CfgWeapons_Equipment#U_IG_leader)

[sly plover]

thank you

[storm wave]

how do i convex thet in a way it will not be a diffrent object

[pallid island]

hidden selections don't seem to be properly configured in its linked CfgVehicles > I_G_Soldier_TL_F class. Class config says hiddenSelections[] = {"Camo", "insignia"}; when the model has "Camo1" and "Camo2" selections only

[stuck oyster]

simple fix, write camo1 and camo2 in your configg

[pallid island]

ye, works

[sly plover]

im trying to do something like that ?

i don't realy know where to start

[stuck oyster]

well retexturiing means you just pain overe the existing textures

so you grab those and start painting

[sly plover]

i literaly can't find the character in arma3 file, im searching in a3 document

[stuck oyster]

you dont use the model

just the textures

[sly plover]

how ?

[stuck oyster]

you get the texture file (.paa)

convert it to png

open it in paint/gimp/photoshop

paint

[storm wave]

@sly ploveri can help you with thet if you want

[sly plover]

yes pls, i feel fuckin bad bcs i don't really understand 😭

@stuck oyster thank you

[storm wave]

.

[storm wave]

yeah mate how do i do thet

[charred bolt]

How do you make boxes in a 3d modelling program?

[storm wave]

in object builder

[charred bolt]

Are you using blender?

[storm wave]

did made boxes they are not showing

[charred bolt]

Are you using blender?

[storm wave]

sometimes

[charred bolt]

Do you know how to make boxes in blender?

[storm wave]

.

[charred bolt]

make them show then... honestly, how do you think that information can help us help you?

[storm wave]

ok never maind

[charred bolt]

I did a thing. It doesn't work. Please fix for me.

We're happy to help, but you'll only get back what you can be bothered to put in.

[marsh canyon]

Looks he left the server. Finally, a good riddance

[mossy mulch]

they'll be back

[sour bough]

For a dual-turreted vehicle, is there a particular trick to making the two turrets have a convergence distance adjusted by zeroing?

[stuck oyster]

scripting

lot of it

well maybe turrets ould be AI manned and follow main gunners view

or something like that

there are no vanilla examples of such solutions

[sour bough]

hmmm.

I could've sworn I've seen it before.

I should specify, they're not two turrets in a config sense. It's two guns on the same turret

Or rather

One Weapon on one Turret that is two guns on the model with alternating shooting

[charred bolt]

We have that on some vehicles in SOG:PF.
Perhaps PBR boat with twin front cannon.

[sour bough]

Yeah I've got it on a plane with guns on the wings but they don't have a convergence distance or anything. This is for a tank

[stuck oyster]

Oh then I misunderstood you

[sour bough]

It's okay lol

Colloquial vs config terms

[stuck oyster]

thought you meant 2 separate turrets

which is a bit of pain 😅

[sour bough]

Yeah nah, one Turret one Weapon two hlavne

[stuck oyster]

vehicle weapon zeroing should just work 🤔

[charred bolt]

Like this?

[sour bough]

No anim source needed to make them tilt inward?

[sour bough]

Yeah like that

[stuck oyster]

oh thats not a thing

dual mounted guns dont typically converge in real life solutions

[subtle bison]

my newly installed buldozer (started from o2) won't show textures even though texture path is set to p:\ anyone got any clues for why?

[stuck oyster]

arma3 exe buldozer or buldozer.exe dozer?

[subtle bison]

arma3.exe

actually arma3_x64.exe right now for a test

[stuck oyster]

OB started from launcher or shortcut/exe

x64 should work

[subtle bison]

ob from shortcut

[stuck oyster]

P drive set via launchers setup or other ways (subst bat)

[subtle bison]

same if i start it from a3 tools

launcher setup

[stuck oyster]

that is the issue if I guess right

[subtle bison]

hm. how should i do it instead?

can't remember if i did it differently before

[stuck oyster]

https://pmc.editing.wiki/doku.php?id=arma3:tools:setup-p-drive

simple bat file will work

theres some problem with read permissions happening with how the launcher does it

[subtle bison]

you mean mapdisk.bat?

[stuck oyster]

yeah

[subtle bison]

hm. will check.

[stuck oyster]

make sure automounting from launcher is disabled so it wont keep messing with it

[sour bough]

oh. Neat.

[subtle bison]

hm nope, no change. still gray model in buldozer

[stuck oyster]

is the path right? 😅

[stuck oyster]

no i mean on the texture

[subtle bison]

yeah, worked on my old pc

tried multiple models to make sure, but all the same

somehow the screen resolution is weird as well

hmm maybe i'm missing buldozer script stuff. because i also dont have that "buldozer help" tips something something window which was always there before

[stuck oyster]

did you unpack arma3 data with arma3p from mikerotools?

[subtle bison]

nah, a3 tools like always 😄

but i'm thinking of rerunning it with arma3p

probably makes sense

[stuck oyster]

yeah that might be it then

[subtle bison]

ok, for some reason arma3p doesnt allow me to extract to my d drive

[stuck oyster]

is D drive set as the P drive?

or you have P

[subtle bison]

i have p

[stuck oyster]

youll want to do it on P when P is mounted

[subtle bison]

ah. so mount p drive, then arma3p

[stuck oyster]

yas

[subtle bison]

i'm not doing this stuff often enough 😄

[subtle bison]

yup, now it works.

tl;dr -- dont be lazy, dont use a3 tools to unpack to p drive

[stuck oyster]

😅

It sometimes works

or so I hear

[subtle bison]

it's really weird, because before i had to reinstall everything on this machine, it was working fine

so who knows what happened this time

[charred bolt]

These don't converge either, it's called "parallax" and is an optical effect.
But the zeroing works on both guns simultaneously to fire longer/shorter.

[stuck oyster]

yep

misunderstood the convergence/zeroing question there. zeroing does work basically automatically. Convergence is not a engine thing

can be done with scripting though

[lyric harbor]

Is there a link to a sample model from SWT_Janowich that can be used to learn modding

Or any other model that i can open in blender and use to see how it looks

[marsh canyon]

Arma 3 Samples?

[stuck oyster]

👆 those can be subscribed to on steam

[amber swift]

Hello everyone, i need some help with my custom ifv, i have the following issues:
the LOD doesn't switch when the driver turns out;
all the passagers sit on the same spot, instead of the seats i put the proxies on;
the gunner is invisible and is not placed in the same place as the proxy;
the weapons muzzle and gunner camera are offset;
the rear hatch gunners dont rotate or rise when turned out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR7ReYZT3R4

if you know the solution to any of these issues please share.

[charred bolt]

the LOD doesn't switch when the driver turns out;
Do you have a res LOD (0 or 1) AND a Cargo (or Pilot) LOD?
Is your driver proxy in both LOD 0 and Cargo LOD's?

Have you set these config parameters?

lodDriverTurnedOut = 0;        // Res LOD 0```

[amber swift]

I had these parameters, but had lodDriverTurnedOut = 1;
i think that might be the issue.

[charred bolt]

all the passagers sit on the same spot, instead of the seats i put the proxies on;
Does each of the Cargo Proxies have a unique index number, starting at 1?
Are they in both res LOD 0 and Cargo LOD?

Do you have these config parameters set-up correctly?

cargoProxyIndexes[] = {1,2,3,4,6,7,8,9,11};
cargoAction[] = {"passenger_generic01_foldhands", "passenger_apc_narrow_generic01"};```

[amber swift]

i have 6 cargo proxies with indexes from 1 to 6 yeah, but the the values on the config are diferent:
transportSoldier=6;
cargoProxyIndexes[] = {1,2,3,4,5,6};
getInProxyOrder[] = {1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9};

i thought that the cargoProxyIndexes only indicated the cargo indexes without the crew

[charred bolt]

The crew are normally given commander or gunner proxies and will be defined inside turrets.

[amber swift]

i described the problem poorly, its only the rear hatch gunners that sit in the same spot as the rear passengers, for some reason it seams the proxy is being used as two slots

[charred bolt]

So are the two rear hatch gunners defined inside turret classes?

[amber swift]

yes

[charred bolt]

inside the turret class you will have something like this

proxyType = "CPGunner";

make sure your rear hatch gunners are gunner type proxies and have indices that match with the proxyIndex in the turret classes

I guess it goes without saying, but if you've placed the gunner proxies on top of some cargo proxies in the back, of course they will sit on each other.

[amber swift]

what proxy should i use, im browsing the folder in data_f but im not sure what vehicles have this kind of ffv feature

[charred bolt]

The proxy itself is largely irrelevant (aside from buldozer visualisation perhaps), because the character pose (animation) is set in config. Only the proxy type and index are really relevant.
There is a set of proxies (driver, gunner, commander) here: \a3\data_f\proxies\T100k\
and a cargo one here: \a3\data_f\proxies\passenger_apc_generic01\Cargo

[amber swift]

ah ok understood

[charred bolt]

When you've got the gunners appearing in the correct places, and if you still need help with the other questions, let us know.

[amber swift]

thanks, i still have other really annoying issues, like the weapons not firing to where the camera points at, but ill check the previous fixes first.

[amber swift]

should i give the rear gunners another index? theres already a ...Gunner.001 , the one in the turret

[charred bolt]

Yes, each gunner type proxy must have a unique index. So if you have 1 in the front and 2 in the back, they'll be 1,2,3.

[amber swift]

Roger. But now theres 2 less cargo proxies, i should change the values in here right?

[charred bolt]

Can you screenshot your vehicle LOD 0 with just all the proxies showing and label them (C0, C1, C2 etc, Driver, G0, G1 etc)

[amber swift]

ok one sec

its a bit confusing, if u theres smt u cant understand i can explain or re take the screenshot

the cargo interior is theres as well because i made the ramp open when the soldiers enter the vehicle

[charred bolt]

C4 to C6 labels, but I count 4 proxies?

and who's the guy next to the driver, unlabelled?

best to select character proxies and hide everything else for screenshot

[amber swift]

ah yeah true

ill send another one sec

[charred bolt]

that all looks good

[amber swift]

the hidden proxies were for the muzzle of the mg and flag

[charred bolt]

so

cargoProxyIndexes[] = {1,2,3,4};```
and 4 turrets; 3 with gunners, 1 with commander

[amber swift]

ah ok

wait 4 turrets, you mean cargo?

[charred bolt]

No 4 turret classes

[amber swift]

ah, yeah the commander counts

[charred bolt]

Yes, because even if he has no special powers, you probably still want the player to be able to choose the position for entry

[amber swift]

true, i got a bit confused for a sec

the driver lod change works, but the rear hatch gunners spawn outside

ill double check everything

[amber swift]

its working now

i had the indexes mixed up

[charred bolt]

Well done!

[amber swift]

thanks to you its fixed hehe. i was stuck for a while

i have another problem that cant quite figure out whats causing it, the weapons of the turret hit too low from the gunner crosshair. I have checked the memory points but they seem correct

[stuck oyster]

you can scale them down to 0 on axis appropriate axis to make sure they are straight

[charred bolt]

Also debug by using a BI vanilla vehicle weapon rather than one of your making, to eliminate any possible errors in the weapon config.

[late mauve]

Hey all, apologies if this is the wrong channel but was wondering if someone could help me an Arma modelling / Object Builder issue. I am currently working on taking an existing 3D model that I have in Blender and exporting it as a P3D for Arma. I am using the Arma Toolbox to export it and have configured it properly so that the item shows up in Object Builder when I export it.

The issue I have encountered now though is that I seemingly cannot get the textures to show when loading it in Bulldozer. I've defined them in the Arma Toolbox (in Blender) and when I open the Face Properties menu in OB it shows the Texture locations as being correct. But the moment I launch it in Bulldozer they do not show. I was wondering if someone could have a look and tell me what I'm doing wrong.

I've included a zip folder of the project which includes the Textures, the Blender file and the P3D. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!!!

[stuck oyster]

if you have set up P drive with the arma3 tools launcher and run object builder from the launcher, Buldozer rarely works

things broke back in the day with win10

so you will likely need to do some startup setup again to get it all runnign

[late mauve]

As in I need to store my project file on the P Drive?

[stuck oyster]

if you dont have P drive then thats is first missing step yes

all the Arma tools are design to work with P drive

the drive represents the games internal file system

[late mauve]

Oh no I do sorry

I am shit at explaining sutff

So I have the P Drive mounted and setup

but should I be storing everything in the PDrive for the projects?

[stuck oyster]

the stuff you would pack into pbo

so configs, p3ds, PAA textures

[late mauve]

okay cool, I'll tex that now

thanks @stuck oyster

[stuck oyster]

the stuff the tools like Object builder reads

also Object Builder does not seem to always have the texture path variable set in its options

that needs to be P:\

[late mauve]

Yeah I just did that and it fixed it

Thanks @stuck oyster !!!!

You are a saviour

That's been bugging me for like 3 days

[stuck oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-batgoat-goat-tribe-ada-goats-goat-gif-24400260

[lusty ginkgo]

Anybody know of a way to get a macro texture to appear correctly in blender?

overlay node just uses blending modes

I'm not sure how the shader works in arma

[stuck oyster]

RVMAT typically uses second UVset for that

so Blender will need that too

[lusty ginkgo]

I know that

I have a working multi material that incorporates normal maps and ambient shadow and I'm working on the macro

the color/shading is wrong

the overlay node uses blend modes and none of those modes match whatever the engine does

[lusty ginkgo]

overlaying the multi textures on top of the macro helps but still not close

[stuck oyster]

its probably never going to be 100% exact. how close/far yours is?

[lusty ginkgo]

about 25%

[stuck oyster]

that is pretty different then yeah

I recall I've used overlay as color mix mode

and overlay happening very last

[lusty ginkgo]

unfortunately that doesn't work

[stuck oyster]

colors do tend to get more saturated in game/buldozer

but also I have far colder environment map in blender there

[lusty ginkgo]

and brightness as well. the overlay blend mode does some other weird stuff too

I have a couple ideas, I'll try those

well this setup is the closest I could get it

the details still aren't correct though

[late mauve]

Hey all, does anyone have any good tutorials for setting up the memory points for backpacks in OB? Trying to get backpack I mentioned in this message to allign properly in game and I haven't set any memory points yet.

[stuck oyster]

there is a sample backapack in the arma3 samples you can use. most likely you are missing autocenter named property with value 0 from the geometry lod

[late mauve]

Yeah see I read there was one but I can't find it for the life of me, used search functions and everything 😂

[lusty ginkgo]

Does anyone have knowledge on how any of the arma 3 shaders work?

[marsh canyon]

Near to nothing. You better to ask the actual question

[lusty ginkgo]

I just need to know how the macro texture in super or multi are applied so I can recreate it accurately in blender

specifically with _mc textures that have transparency

MixRGB method is ineffective

[ripe flax]

How can I fix this?

[marsh canyon]

Fix what?

[ripe flax]

I want everything to be in place but I can't fix it

[marsh canyon]

Explain without "everything" or "it" etc. No vague words

[ripe flax]

I want the magazine and the trigger finger to be in the position it should go

[marsh canyon]

This is a handAnim thing

Also magazine is just a proxy you can tweak by P3D

[sacred perch]

So I've got a uniform model that right now is in a T pose state, Arma man and all that, other uniforms vests are in the A pose, Im wondering does it matter what pose it's in once its been weight painted?

[marsh canyon]

It does matter

[sacred perch]

Tragic

Any easy way to make the A pose 💀

[marsh canyon]

Sounds like your model is not even made for Arma 3. Every uniforms have to follow the template

[stuck oyster]

Where's the uniform from...

[sacred perch]

well it wasnt

[sacred perch]

Where its from exactly, I don't know, Somewhere online

[marsh canyon]

That means you better to knock your idea off

[sacred perch]

heh?

[marsh canyon]

Better word: stop your project and learn the way how to make it yourself

[sacred perch]

Mh

Mabye

[stuck oyster]

Then we can't help you.

It sounds like it's stolen from some other game

[sacred perch]

Well it's not

[marsh canyon]

Well, as long as you can't be sure what the model is, you can't also be sure it's not stolen

[stuck oyster]

Where is it from then

[sacred perch]

Not from a game.

[stuck oyster]

what iss the source then

[sacred perch]

I have no idea as i'm not the one who found it.

[stuck oyster]

come back when you know

[sacred perch]

Meh, I got my answer no need to.

[stuck oyster]

you can see how scetchy this looks right?

you do understand that?

[sacred perch]

I guess yea.

Ye reading back you're right, does look scetchy I guess, But like at the same time all i came to do was get an answer not to be told im ripping.

[stuck oyster]

cant recall an interaction like this where it wasnt. we all go by our past interactions.

[sacred perch]

Ye fair enough, My bad tbh probably shouldnt idk thought about it or watevr

[stuck oyster]

could have just got the source link

[sacred perch]

I mean

The dude who got it is asleep

Can't do much about that

And i was only handed their modified file

[stuck oyster]

[analog garden]

if he was ripping assets I don’t think he’d be a dev on a few different projects 💀

look at mutual servers for him lmao

[short marsh]

Is it possible to make a rocket pod without modeling the tubes? I have an old A2 rocket pod that I just don't feel like doing every tube for, and just use that model for a proxy and able to fire the rockets out of and be done with it.

For the pylon system

[cinder summit]

I mean I don’t see why not

[short marsh]

I don't either, but was making sure I don't get blown up beforehand, never did a rocket pod yet for the pylon system, so I'm just playing it safe.

[still trail]

That value needs to be set on base class I believe

[lusty ginkgo]

Does anyone know what the verdict is when it comes to performance of visualex shadows vs models that have shadow volumes?

[charred bolt]

Visualex is often said to be better performing, though limited (eg not for vehicles with interiors), although I haven't personally seen measurement data to confirm it.

[lusty ginkgo]

Ok. Thanks. I'll just go with that, shadow volumes are such a pain to make

[bitter ermine]

i'm encountering a crash status 2 in mikero's tools and i can't find any useful information online regarding finding what is causing the problem.

[lusty ginkgo]

Anybody know why my ambient shadow might be baking this specific pipe to be brighter than the ones next to it?

[bitter ermine]

where's the light source?

[lusty ginkgo]

no light source, just ambient lighting. using bake wrangler in blender

the pipes all along the fence alternate at seemingly random between darker and lighter

[runic plover]

Have you checked smooth / sharp edges on the endlings?

[peak surge]

Thanks

[peak surge]

It’s from me

He doesn’t stole it

[peak surge]

You re very rude with venom I don’t like the way your are talking to him.

I don’t want drama we just want help

[marsh canyon]

We also don't want a drama. So we just wanted to make it sure

[peak surge]

Sorry for being late here @sacred perch it’s my fault if they where like that with you

Yes but don’t be rude like that it’s very unfriendly and unpolite

[runic plover]

Problem is a lot "devs" got stolen any other content and this is the normal way that goes on to be sure to get infos where's the content from.. you can say thanks to the other ppl which have stolen stuff or ripped stuff.. HorribleGoat is just doing his job

Everything is okey looks like so dont worry about it

[peak surge]

Okay

So If I understand well the T pose is not the good pose for the uniform

[runic plover]

Indeed

[peak surge]

I will have to redo it in A pose…mmh

[runic plover]

In the A3 Samples you can see a example

[marsh canyon]

Not good is too optimistic to say. It's inappropriate

[runic plover]

You can add the selections and weightpaint for it of the A3 Sample

Also you can correct the pose with it then

[peak surge]

oh okay, as it’s not me that implement the uniform I can tell my dev he can do this like that ? (because I m not very competent with arma itself as you can see)

Thank you for your help.

[peak surge]

Oh and little question about the neck and collar part of a uniform is it better I modifiy directly the 3d model of the uniform to fit the arma face neck ?

(I can’t send a picture here can I send it one to you in private ?)

[sacred perch]

All G man

[viral hinge]

Hi,
Is there a way to hide predefined markers on certain objects that I import onto a map? For example, in my image, there are cabinets that display with a marker. There are also gas stations, antennas, and so on. Can I prevent these from being displayed?

[marsh canyon]

https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/Named_Properties#map

[stuck oyster]

If they are not your custom models then no.

If they are custom models you can edit then yes and the link above is relevant

[viral hinge]

Thanks for the feedback

[lusty ginkgo]

yep

[south badge]

Are dovetail scopes supposed to be impossible to position properly across different weapons? Even when testing different weapons from the same mod, if I model the scope to properly "fit" one weapon, on the other weapons it might be glitching into the weapon or floating in mid-aid

[sour bough]

Depends on the mod, tbh. Usually there's a sort of standardized offset/position for each type of optics mount, but when it comes to mods it's ymmv

[round bloom]

Im currently making a festive christmas hat for A3 and when I assign a texture to it in OB I load in bulldozer and the texture is not showing at all, any ideas?

[lusty ginkgo]

So I have a wall model, and AI walks right through it sometimes. Can't seem to figure out why

[marsh canyon]

Not a part of model issue but AI issue and you really have nothing to do

[lusty ginkgo]

doesn't happen with my other models

no conflicting paths either, it's just a wall placed in empty space

[stuck oyster]

How thick wall?

[lusty ginkgo]

it's a recreation of the vanilla "concrete pipe wall" from altis. Nearly the exact same scale

[stuck oyster]

what kind of collision geometry you got on it?

[lusty ginkgo]

For geometry, I just did what it looks like the vanilla model did. A single rectangle for the whole model. View geometry is more precise, and fire geometry is essentially the same as view. No physx, no path, no roadways

although the original model has aicovers = 0 as a property and mine doesn't. not sure how that could affect pathing but it could be connected

I would think it would be the other way around though, honestly, with aicovers = 1 preventing AI from walking through since they account for the object as cover

Yeah based on how the AI hide I think cover was disabled on the original because the concrete barrier is too low

[stuck oyster]

yeah Im not sure if cover behavior is related to ai walking through it.

do you test it in editor or as terrain object?

single rectangle component should be pretty safe bet

AI can occasionally phase through things for sure. but it should be pretty rare

[lusty ginkgo]

both in editor and built into the wrp

usually it happens when they are on near a path like a path lod from a nearby model or a road

[stuck oyster]

then it could be they are on the other objects path

that does make AI ignore anything else

[lusty ginkgo]

but the soldier I tested with was moving at combat pace, not walking like they do on paths. So it would seem like he was following a road, but there was no road

[stuck oyster]

like if you put stuff inside a house AI will walk through it

[lusty ginkgo]

yeah I know

thats why AI sometimes phase through walls near gates, or phase through closed gates

if you place objects on a road they can walk through occasionally as well

I had trouble with my placeable paths causing AI to walk through stuff a good 2 meters away or more

[stuck oyster]

on a custom map?

what mapframe parameters you got for it?

as in is it something very different from "normal"

very big, very small etc

[lusty ginkgo]

4k heightfield, 2.5 cell size, 10km x 10km. Texture layer says 40m x 40m

Though I should mention the issue doesn't seem to happen with the vanilla wall objects mine is meant to replace

[stuck oyster]

then unlikely to be map related. 🤔 and your parameters are pretty normal

do the walls use slope landcontacting?

and do they have autocenter named property set?

[lusty ginkgo]

nope and nope

it's hard to replicate the issue. it's inconsistent

[stuck oyster]

does the geometry extend well under the ground?

[lusty ginkgo]

quite a bit yeah

[stuck oyster]

what Im thinking here is that if theres tiny gaps left between it and ground creating an opening

[lusty ginkgo]

relatively

[stuck oyster]

then that likely is not what happens

disabling autocenter with autocenter = 0 named property could be worth a shot

[lusty ginkgo]

I'll try that

[stuck oyster]

that does require new wrp export and new map pbo. and might require repositioning of the walls

so make backups

[lusty ginkgo]

Yeah I know lol

[stuck oyster]

oh and do they have any class definition in named properties

class house/ fence

[lusty ginkgo]

damage wall, map fence, that's it

[stable marsh]

Hello. What needs to be changed for vests to update the armor values after the update?

[short marsh]

Okay I'm having an issue with a rocket pod. I followed an example and got that squared away. Now the rockets don't follow the memory points, because I set everything up, and it SHOULD work fine. Instead, the rockets are flying in the wrong direction, and I haven't figured out what the issue is. The config entries match, and things should fire as they should. I don't know what I'm missing in this rocket pod so I can fire forward and have it work as it should.

I noticed that the memory points are correct too from an example I have, but I don't know what to fix so it fires correctly

[stuck oyster]

is this for a pylon weapon?

[short marsh]

Yes

[stuck oyster]

do the rockets have proxies for them?

[short marsh]

Yes

It's a closed model, and don't think (but maybe) it's colliding with the rocket pod model? I don't know but I did see the rockets fly upward so it's hitting the heli

Not flying forward

Do the tubes have to be modeled?

[stuck oyster]

no it does not collide with itself

but the proxies do give the rockets direction

flying upwards means theres gimbal lock in missing points

and they all default to 0

[short marsh]

Okay so how do I add those points?

Or fix the issue?

[stuck oyster]

alternatively do you have muzzle direction defining points?

[short marsh]

Yes

MuzzlePos and MuzzleEnd. they are part of the memory lod

[stuck oyster]

then you may need the proxies

to define the rocket positions and direction

[short marsh]

Okay with the proxies it still does it

Okay

[stuck oyster]

then it could be the muzzle points have typo?

[short marsh]

Maybe, I'll go over them again

[stuck oyster]

are they defined in the config too?

[short marsh]

Yes

Should I remove the proxies and work with the muzzle pos and end?

I'll need to check for a typo then.

[stuck oyster]

I believe the proxies are needed.

[short marsh]

Okay

[stuck oyster]

you have these defined in the magazine yes?

[short marsh]

Yes they are

I just redid the names, copying and pasting on the memory points to make sure.

[stuck oyster]

hmm

[short marsh]

Just tried it no change still blowing me up

[wispy orchid]

I have the model of the C-1 Trader from NightIntruder for arma2 and converted it for arma3. The arma3 binarize refuses to binarize it, due to many polys or so. I went ahead and created a proxy for the seats in the Trader and removed those seats from the base model. That basically works for the C-1 Trader with passenger seats. However, there is a cargo variant where the seats are hidden in arma2 through a hide animation for the seats (_plane animate ["int73c1a_seats",1];) This is broken now through the proxy process. Can anyone point to a way to hide the seats through the proxy? Or is my only chance to have two base models, one with seats as proxies, one with cargo as proxies?

[stuck oyster]

can you try move the pods position in the vehicle

like way out of the way just to test its not hitting it

[short marsh]

I thought of that earlier. Sure

[stuck oyster]

as far as I know your own shots should not hit you

[short marsh]

Yeah agreed, but I'll move the model a bit and see what happens

[stuck oyster]

is the pylon on vehicle hull or a turret?

[short marsh]

On a wing more or less

[stuck oyster]

does it animate?

[short marsh]

No, it's just a A2 model of a rocket pod

BIS seriously needs to make Sample models of stuff like this

I mean others have figured out it yes, but I'm just now getting to it

Question, do I have to use a proxy for a rocket pod for it to show? Or I just need it as a pylon rack with the stuff with it?

I'm using a proxy to show the model, which may be the issue

[bright echo]

I think there's something funky with rockets and their 'direction'

[short marsh]

Okay me too, but not sure what exactly to do with it to fix the issue

[bright echo]

like when I was messing with rotating the entire vehicle, other proxies take the rotation fine but rockets would always shoot 'forward'

and I'm wondering if something like that is happening here

like the game uses some aiming memorypoint for the direction and because it can't find it it'd just using 0,0,0

[short marsh]

Maybe, but I think it should use the memory points of course, why it's not I don't know. I'm trying something else, to see if I don't need a proxy to show the model for the rocket pods, which I was doing for the PylonRack. I think that was the issue, it was looking for the memory points in the rack, and not finding them, so it's not using them.

Yep that was the issue, I wasn't using the rocket pod as a rack with the model and memory points. Just tested it and it worky. Thanks for the help!

[stuck oyster]

👍

[woeful viper]

you cant animate anything inside a proxy. You can only animate the entire proxy or nothing

[wispy orchid]

thanks, that's probably why the seats cannot be hidden like that. Is there a way to hide the whole proxy?

[woeful viper]

yes, just create a selection for the proxy triangle inside the main model and make an animation for this like you would for any regular model part

[sour bough]

What might cause the driver seat of a tank not to work?

• I don't have the action to get in
• forcing it via moveindriver does not work
• zeus-teleporting inside will work and it drives properly

I haven't yet finished all the LOD's but I'm trying to finish this part first. Lack of view-pilot lod? Driver proxy needs to be in some other LOD?

[stuck oyster]

no driver actions in config?

[charred bolt]

memoryPointsGetInDriverDir = 
getInAction = 
getOutAction = 
driverAction = 
driverInAction = ```
Driver type proxy in first res LOD and View Pilot or View Cargo LOD.

[sour bough]

My config is like ten lines difference from the sample guy, lemme confirm

I got it - I hadn't made a view pilot or view cargo lod made yet. Temp one copy of res 1 fixed it.

[stuck oyster]

can also be just empty

[sour bough]

Tank has an interior, just haven't gotten it all set up yet. Doesn't really matter what's in it rn lol

[stuck oyster]

yeh there are some requirements for vehicle to work right

[olive ice]

is it possible to generate an _as perhaps by tweaking the channels? I no longer have the high poly to bake from?

[round bloom]

This is my festive contribution for this Christmas, I will add a christmas tree and then release it all 😃 http://i.imgur.com/zwpUPGT.jpg

[reef gate]

does anyone have any tips/ things i should take into consideration when modding an aircraft

i'm currently in the blockout stage

[stuck oyster]

good reference pictures can be helpful.

[reef gate]

is there anything i can do in this stage that will make my life easier when i'm doing config stuff, i've never made an aircraft before

[charred bolt]

• aircraft pointing to the left
• fuselage parallel to the ground
• gear extended and at normal compression for sitting on ground
• wheels touching ground (y=0)

[reef gate]

I just used that reference to get the rudder

[toxic cobalt]

hello I am quitting modding Arma 3 but still want to play it is there any way I can delete the P drive and everything else without touching the game itself

[stuck oyster]

P drive has no connection to the playable game, so yes

[charred bolt]

In the Arma 3 Tools, under Misc menu, you can Unmount the P drive.
Under Preferences menu, don't load the P drive on startup.

[wispy orchid]

X3KJ, worked nicely! I initially forgot to put the selection as bone as well, so it wouldn't work, but then all went well

[sour bough]

Related to this: Is this done by moving the usti and konec hlavne with an animation source? Or is there an engine method of alternating between the two points? I found that if I move the hlavne's, the smoke shifts from side to side when I shoot but the actual bullets come from the original position.

(Context: this is a tank with a pair of main guns that alternates between the two. Turret path is [0] I think)

[stuck oyster]

typically only bullet type weapons have been made alternating

[sour bough]

hmm, cannon_120mm is bullet isn't it? shotShell?

[stuck oyster]

Shotshell

so animating the gunbeg gunend points should work for it

[calm ginkgo]

Ellooooo I am very new to blender and plan on using it to make some stuff for arma just wondering if anyone can point me in the right direction I have watched a couple vids ect just having trouble with some stuff

So far this is what I have done and plan on getting a wood texture too it and then getting it into arma but struggeling with the whole get it into arma thing. I have tried to watch videos on it but I am just not getting it

as well as the texture

for example the sides of this seem to be stretched

[stuck oyster]

youll want to keep on tutorials still and look up uvmapping and textre baking

[calm ginkgo]

What tutorials would you recommend

[stuck oyster]

im not really up to date on whats good. but watch all you can until you understand what the things are and how they are done

and for now forget what Arma needs

focus on understanding 3d modeling and texturing first

[sour bough]

That's the odd part - I'm doing exactly that, but it's moving the engine-driven smoke stuff but not the bullet (seemingly). I'll check again when I'm back at my pc in bulldozer to verify the anim source is actually anim sourcing

[marsh canyon]

Maybe you want to make it 100% sure by using BIS_fnc_traceBullets etc to where it came from or went

[sour bough]

Confirmed, only coming out of the original hlavne's but the smoke is properly alternating

[sour bough]

...Could it be that only the gunEnd point is getting animated?

[bright echo]

i think theres some memorypoints that are like engine driven in a very weird way

and that might be whats happening here

this is for like a shotBullet machinegun right?

[sour bough]

shotShell main gun

pair of em

[bright echo]

ah

I remember running into something similar before trying to find it

[sour bough]

Lemme know if you remember your solution - I'm gonna try fiddling with bones to try to isolate whether the gunBeg is actually animating

[bright echo]

last time I did it I ended up either using pylons or instead of animating the memorypoint I just moved the projectile after it spawned

[sour bough]

Update: syncing only gunBeg to the group does nothing, confirming that I can't seem to move it.

[bright echo]

using this: https://community.bistudio.com/wiki/BIS_fnc_missileLaunchPositionFix

[sour bough]

Huh, so just a fired EH?

[bright echo]

ignore that its called missile - it works for shells too

yeah

[sour bough]

eh i've heard of dumber solutions lol

My other one was just to separate them into left and right cannon weapons

which...i might still do

On a tank main turret, muzzleend and muzzlepos are ignored in favor of gunbeg and gunend, right?

[bright echo]

I dont think those are used (muzzlepos) on vehicles

[sour bough]

...well, it's definitely sub-optimal since it seems to happen a frame late lol

...oh it's also very inaccurate lol

[bright echo]

there might be a better way to do it, I used it for rocket artillery a long time ago and it was good enough for that as it wasnt two shots at the same time etc

[sour bough]

(meaning the adjusted one ends up off because it seems to be a frame late)

I may just try to make one of them technically a coax, since the gunner here doesn't have access to a coax

[stuck oyster]

I have handled this through similar eventhanlder too in my multi barrel weapons in lost dragons.

[last spindle]

You can generate a AO from the Normal Map to some degree, you will need something like xNormal/Knald/Substance Designer and some competency to figure it out, it aint that hard

[honest terrace]

Gday all, is there any way to proxy a specific LOD from a vanilla vehicle into my own? Im making a family of Merkava vehicles and im looking at my interiors thinking it may be easier just to use them,

Obviously i dont want to debin a vanilla model, is it possible to do?

Some photos for inspo

[charred bolt]

No, not possible.

[honest terrace]

Cheers

[stuck oyster]

This model is not by any chance from warthunder?

Because it bears all the telltale signs of warthunder model

[honest terrace]

Haha edgewears not that bad!, Nah purchased on CG Trader along with most of my other vehicles,

[stuck oyster]

its a bit in that direction we usually see. PBR does not translate into Arma SpecGloss directly.

but good that its not from wt 🙏

[honest terrace]

Yep, most i purchase generally have .spp files, so i bring them in there then re-export into Armas format 👌

[charred bolt]

Just out of a professional interest, how many polys (tri's) in that screenshot LOD?

[honest terrace]

Just in that screenshot, around 185k with res1, shadow, geo, physx & all clouds.

Not released yet, got more optimization to do, id like it to be closer to 120ish, maybe less